[INDOLOGY] Internet Archive at risk?

[Westin Harris]

That looks like it, Harry. I thought more people had chimed in but I guess not. 

Geoffrey: I am sorry to hear that your research methods might be significantly impacted by these rulings. As you certainly will remember, these materials used to be freely available directly on TBRC/BDRC, and they only recently switched over to the IA check out system for those works. I wonder if Jann or anyone else at BDRC has any backup plans for the Pedurma material and other copyrighted works. Otherwise, I wonder if IA will be willing to pay the eBook licensing fees. 

Has anybody heard any word from IA and/or BDRC about their next steps, other than the general public statements about their disappointment with the ruling(s)? 

Sincerely,

Westin Harris
Ph.D. Candidate
Study of Religion
University of California, Davis
https://religions.ucdavis.edu/people/westin-harris

2021 Dissertation Fellow,
The Robert H. N. Ho Family Foundation Program in Buddhist Studies

Sarva Mangalam.

> On May 13, 2023, at 5:13 AM, Harry Spier <vasishtha.spier at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Is this the thread you are referring to:
> https://list.indology.info/pipermail/indology/2023-April/057531.html
> Harry Spier
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 1:12 PM Westin Harris <wlharris at ucdavis.edu> wrote:
>> Hi Harry and other Indologists,
>> 
>> There was another thread about this topic recently but I am struggling to find the name of that thread. Forgive me for not being able to provide the link at this time. 
>> 
>> I am by no means an expert on this matter, so someone else please correct me if I am mistaken... but as I understand it, the recent rulings specifically and exclusively pertain to copyrighted material that the IA has scanned itself and now offers on a "check out" basis to a single user at a time. 
>> 
>> As I understand it, the ruling does not pertain to material on the IA that is NOT under copyright, material for which the copyright has lapsed, or material that has otherwise entered into public domain via any other avenue. As I understand it, these materials will remain as they are, freely available through IA -- no changes. 
>> 
>> Am I interpreting this correctly? 
>> 
>> In my usage of the IA, I have only ever used this "check out" function two times: for the Pedurma edition of the Kagyur/Tengyur and for a Pedurma edition of the Taranatha Sungbum. The vast majority of the sources I access on IA are in the public domain or otherwise not under copyright. 
>> 
>> Of course, just because I have only used the "check out" function sparingly does not mean the same is true for others. I am curious about how often other Indologists on this listserv access copyrighted material on IA using the "check out" function? Do others foresee any major obstacles to their current research methods as a result of these court rulings?
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Westin Harris
>> Ph.D. Candidate
>> Study of Religion 
>> University of California, Davis
>> https://religions.ucdavis.edu/people/westin-harris
>> 
>> 2021 Dissertation Fellow,
>> The Robert H. N. Ho Family Foundation Program in Buddhist Studies
>> 
>> Sarva Mangalam.
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 6:15 PM Harry Spier via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>>> Dear list members 
>>> This video about the copyright legal problems the Internet Archive is having and whether that puts the archive at risk, was posted on the BVP list.
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp2aowF0jUw&ab_channel=AllThingsLost
>>> 
>>> Harry Spier
>>> 
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