[INDOLOGY] Academia.edu creepy things

Patrick Olivelle jpo at austin.utexas.edu
Sun Apr 9 12:51:53 UTC 2023


Can Lubomir or anyone else tell us how to turn off notifications? I could not find any obvious way to do it. Thanks.

Patrick




> On Apr 9, 2023, at 3:39 AM, Lubomír Ondračka via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>
> Yes, you can indeed sometimes get an email even though you have all notifications turned off. In my experience, this happens in two cases.
>
> First, when Academia.edu adds a new kind of notification, it always sets it as "on" (otherwise we would not know about it). In that case, we need to go into the settings again and turn off this new notification.
>
> Second, Academia.edu occasionally asks selected users for feedback on new planned changes (new features, new look, etc.). I usually give this feedback because I have been using this site for many years (for free) and I consider it fair to contribute to its development.
>
> LO
>
>
> On 09.04.2023 2:11, Patricia Sauthoff via INDOLOGY wrote:
>> I have set my academia account to never email me and have even asked gmail to send everything there to spam and yet about once a year they sneak into my inbox and I have to do it all over again.
>> On Sat, Apr 8, 2023 at 3:44 PM Tracy Coleman <tcoleman at coloradocollege.edu <mailto:tcoleman at coloradocollege.edu>> wrote:
>>    At the very least, we should not speak our thoughts aloud, or keep
>>    our private diaries on our devices. 🙂
>>    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>    *From:* INDOLOGY <indology-bounces at list.indology.info
>>    <mailto:indology-bounces at list.indology.info>> on behalf of Ananya
>>    Vajpeyi via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info
>>    <mailto:indology at list.indology.info>>
>>    *Sent:* Saturday, April 8, 2023 3:23 AM
>>    *To:* Claudius Teodorescu <claudius.teodorescu at gmail.com
>>    <mailto:claudius.teodorescu at gmail.com>>
>>    *Cc:* indology at list.indology.info
>>    <mailto:indology at list.indology.info> <indology at list.indology.info
>>    <mailto:indology at list.indology.info>>
>>    *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] Academia.edu creepy things
>>    This email originated outside Colorado College. Do not click links
>>    or attachments unless you know the content is safe.
>>    I find there’s a lot of leakage between one’s mobile phone calls,
>>    emails, social media accounts and services like Academia / Research
>>    Gate / Dropbox / Interfolio. It’s only a matter of time before our
>>    thoughts too become accessible, predictable and monetizable. In the
>>    event that as academics we can’t go off the grid entirely, perhaps
>>    it’s better to resign oneself to this invasion of the mind snatchers?
>>    AV.
>>    On Saturday, April 8, 2023, Claudius Teodorescu via INDOLOGY
>>    <indology at list.indology.info <mailto:indology at list.indology.info>>
>>    wrote:
>>        Hi,
>>        If it is the case that Academia app was installed, one can
>>        notice that it collects name and email address (see [1]), which
>>        is sure enough to correlate with information from Indology
>>        archives, which are public.
>>        Maybe deleting the Academia account will help.
>>        Claudius
>>        [1]
>>        https://play.google.com/store/apps/datasafety?id=com.academia.academia&hl=en&gl=US <https://play.google.com/store/apps/datasafety?id=com.academia.academia&hl=en&gl=US>
>>        On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 at 11:11, Jean Michel DELIRE via INDOLOGY
>>        <indology at list.indology.info
>>        <mailto:indology at list.indology.info>> wrote:
>>            I once uploaded an article to Academia and, since then, I
>>            receive notifications every day that 'people' are reading
>>            this article and other papers of mine. Usually, I don't know
>>            these 'people', which could even be a certain
>>            CuneiformComposite (the name of a font), but some are known
>>            to me and appear in my emails.I also receive notifications
>>            that my name has been quoted in such or such article (some
>>            having nothing to do with my work, as very specialized
>>            medical articles by instance), but it is impossible to know
>>            more, without paying. This seems to be a very erratic
>>            process, probably led by a silly robot.
>>            Best,
>>            *Jean Michel DELIRE*
>>            /*Lecturer on History of mathematics - IHEB (ULB)*/
>>            /*Lecturer on *//*Science and civilisation of India -
>>            Sanskrit Texts - IHEB (ULB)*/
>>            /*Member of the Centre National d'Histoire des Sciences
>>            (KBR, Bruxelles)*/
>>            /*Member of the Société Asiatique (Paris)*/
>>            /*Member of the International Association of Sanskrit Studies*/
>>            Le ven. 7 avr. 2023 à 23:38, Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY
>>            <indology at list.indology.info
>>            <mailto:indology at list.indology.info>> a écrit :
>>                That's quite suspicious.  Perhaps Kaul had a burst of
>>                online business and posted to INDOLOGY and /at the same
>>                time/ uploaded the review to Academia, which triggered
>>                your notification.  We can't tell from Academia when
>>                papers are uploaded, but the review has 317 views, which
>>                suggests it was uploaded a while ago, not recently.  So
>>                that explanation is probably wrong.
>>                How could Academia possibly be getting information about
>>                your incoming emails?  What mechanism can we imagine?                 Emails don't deposit cookies, so cross-site cookies
>>                aren't the pathway.  If Academia is harvesting from the
>>                INDOLOGY archive, which is technically possible, then
>>                *everyone* would get the Kaul notification or similar
>>                ones, not just you.  It's hard to see how this might
>>                work.  Without a plausible mechanism, I'm staying with
>>                coincidence.
>>                But I have all my Academia notifications turned off, so
>>                I never get anything from them.  If I want to know their
>>                stuff, I look at the website.
>>                Best,
>>                Dominik
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>>        Claudius Teodorescu
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>> (I will respond as quickly as I can. In the meantime, here is a pdf <https://www.buddhanet.net/pdf_file/med-guided2.pdf> of some of my favorite simple guided meditations.)
>> Author: Illness and Immortality: mantra, maṇḍala, and meditation in the Netra Tantra <https://global.oup.com/academic/product/illness-and-immortality-9780197553268?cc=us&lang=en&#:~:text=Patricia%20Sauthoff%20examines%20the%20role,to%20alleviate%20illness%20and%20death.&text=It%20asks%20how%20ritual%20alleviates,rites%20described%20within%20the%20text.>
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