[INDOLOGY] National Manuscript Mission data to be put in public domain

[Harry Spier]

Thanks Dhaval. Do you think not making the PDF's downloadable violates the
court order.
Harry Spier


On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 5:36 PM Dhaval Patel <drdhaval2785 at gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 at 3:32 AM, Harry Spier <vasishtha.spier at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Dhavalji,
>> Thank you for the update.
>> 1)  If at the end of the day, the NMM keeps ignoring the court order in
>> spite of your non-compliance complaint, is there an enforcement mechanism
>> the Indian courts can use to compel compliance?
>>
>
> Yes, there is.
>
>>
>> 2) I also followed your instructions and also got 27,049 records, but
>> when I accessed any one of them. There was info and a link but the link did
>> not download anything.  So I'm not sure if any manuscripts have been put in
>> the public domain.
>>
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> When you click on the link on the search page, it leads to another page
> which provides info about the specific manuscript e.g.
> https://www.bharatiyakritisampada.nic.in/manus/search-view?id=MjgzNzYy
>
> You will be able to see a link to PDF just above the heading “Title of the
> Text”. Clicking on it will open a PDF viewer. The PDFs are not
> downloadable. See the link below:
>
> https://www.bharatiyakritisampada.nic.in/manus/pdf-view?content=MjgzNzYyL3BkZi9WQkkwMDAwMTIyNTVfQmFsaWTEgW5hdmlkaMSBbmFfMTc4MF9QREZBLnBkZg%253D%253D
>
> Thanks again for your great efforts.
>>
>> Harry Spier
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 8:35 PM Dhaval Patel <drdhaval2785 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Harry and list members,
>>>
>>> I regret to inform that there has not been compliance to the order by
>>> NMM. I have filed a non-compliance complaint. It was heard in November end.
>>> Order is yet to be received.
>>>
>>> In the meanwhile, there seems to be certain manuscripts which are put in
>>> public domain by NMM.
>>> Steps:
>>> 1. Visit https://www.bharatiyakritisampada.nic.in/
>>> 2. Click on Digital Manuscripts.
>>> 3. Search for the manuscript.
>>>
>>> I checked with writing only “a” and searched with the presumption that
>>> every name of title would have at least one “a” in its spelling. It gave me
>>> a response stating that there are 27,049 manuscripts matching the query. I
>>> have not checked, but it seems that these many manuscripts are available in
>>> digital format for viewing online. If the presumption is good, this is a
>>> substantial improvement.
>>>
>>> With best wishes,
>>> Dhaval
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 17 Dec 2022 at 6:58 AM, Harry Spier <vasishtha.spier at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear list members,
>>>> Its now over a year since Dhaval Patel informed the list that through
>>>> his great efforts the NMM (National Mission for Manuscripts) was ordered by
>>>> the Central Information Commission to put all the manuscripts it had
>>>> photographed into the public domain.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know the current status of this.  Has the order been
>>>> complied with either partially or in full.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Harry Spier
>>>>
>>>> Harry Spier
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 12:57 PM Dhaval Patel via INDOLOGY <
>>>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear scholars,
>>>>>
>>>>> This information may be of interest to those of you who work with
>>>>> manuscripts for their research. It is regarding access of manuscripts
>>>>> digitized by National Mission for Manuscripts, Government of India.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to bring it to the notice of this august gathering that
>>>>> my second appeal in honourable Central Information Commission was decided
>>>>> on 30.10.2021. The order is attached herewith.
>>>>>
>>>>> Honourable Information Commissioner Mr. Uday Mahurkar has decided this
>>>>> matter with a well reasoned order.
>>>>>
>>>>> The order directs NMM to do two things.
>>>>> 1. Put the digitized manuscripts (roughly 3 lacs) in public domain
>>>>> within a period of 1 year
>>>>> and
>>>>> 2. Allow me access of 30000 manuscripts for downloading the same
>>>>> within a period of 1 month.
>>>>>
>>>>> This order would surely pave the way for easier access of manuscripts
>>>>> digitized by NMM to research scholars.
>>>>>
>>>>>  I once again pay my respects to the honourable Information
>>>>> Commissioner for enabling access to this centuries old manuscript treasure
>>>>> of India. I also place my appreciation on record for NMM and manuscript
>>>>> repositories without whose support the manuscripts would not have been
>>>>> digitized, and their digital access would have been impossible.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr. Dhaval Patel
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>> --
>>> Dr. Dhaval Patel
>>> www.sanskritworld.in
>>>
>> --
> Dr. Dhaval Patel
> www.sanskritworld.in
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