[INDOLOGY] Pāṇini

[Jim Ryan]

Talia,

Many thanks. This is great. 

I presume the this is the famous Ṛṣi Dakṣa alluded to here? I so, no need to reply.

Jim

> On Sep 14, 2021, at 4:16 AM, Talia Ariav <taliaa at uchicago.edu> wrote:
> 
> Dear Jim, 
> I do not know any story, but the following two verses from Rāmabhadra Dīkṣita’s Patañjalicaritam present a version of the double patronymic indicated in Monier Williams and in the references Victor cited.
> If I understand correctly, Paṇin is a great grandfather, who has a son called Pāṇina; this son has a son by the same name (Pāṇina junior), who marries Dakṣa’s daughter, and the two name their son Pāṇini.
>  
> paṇīti kaścin munir asti pūrvaṃ sa pāṇinaṃ nāma kumāram āpa । svatulyanāmnā tanayena so'pi dākṣīm udūḍhāṃ dṛḍham abhyanandat ।। 2.47 
> sa pāṇino dakṣabhuvā purandhyā ripuḥ purāṇām umayeva reme । kāle muniḥ skanda iva prasūto harṣaṃ tayoḥ pāṇinir apy akārṣīt ।। 2.48 
>  
> All the Best,
> Talia
>  
> Talia Ariav 
> PhD Candidate 
> South Asian Languages and Civilizations
> Univeristy of Chicago
> From: INDOLOGY <indology-bounces at list.indology.info> on behalf of Jim Ryan via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info>
> Reply-To: Jim Ryan <jim_ryan at comcast.net>
> Date: Tuesday, 14 September 2021 at 13:31
> To: victor davella <vbd203 at googlemail.com>
> Cc: Indology <indology at list.indology.info>
> Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Pāṇini
>  
> Victor, Guy, Dan,
>  
> Thanks for your responses. I, of course, was looking for possible “pseudo-etymologies” for the name “Pāṇini,” thinking there may be one (or more) like there is for Patañjali (the yogin). But, interestingly, conditioned by my teacher some years ago, Frances Wilson, I always go first to Apte’s dictionary. Frances disdained Monier-Williams because it gave the words in transliteration and not in Devanāgarī! Apte in this case was unhelpful. I usually, anyway, always look at Monier-Williams aside Apte for things, as both dictionaries contain items the other doesn’t. But, obviously, I didn’t do my back-up work in this case. 
>  
> Still wondering if there may be mythological stories about Pāṇini and, now, his family line. A double patronymic. Would this mean then, that his grandfather is Pāṇin?
>  
> Victor, some of what you’ve posted I cant’ decipher because I don’t know Pānini well enough, his “code-words” for forms and categories. But part of it, seems to basically spell out what Guy and Dan were pointing out, it seems.
>  
> Jim
> 
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2021, at 12:30 PM, victor davella <vbd203 at googlemail.com <mailto:vbd203 at googlemail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Dear Jim,
>>  
>> I've pasted below two derivations given in commentaries to the Prakriyākaumudī or Rāmacandra; the first is by Viṭṭhala in his Prasāda (p. 3 of the first volume) and the second (spanning two portions) is by Kṛṣṇa Śeṣa in his Prakāśa (pp. 8ff. of the first volume). The former text can be downloaded here <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1YrjVLXHkqneSwwEjNzWK2vx_CNfA-sHn?usp=sharing>.  The latter, here <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NysQ-LteMaqetcAjSKp3QnnxbxOLyLYU?usp=sharing>. Hope that's helpful.
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>> All the Best,
>> Victor
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>> On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 7:00 PM Jim Ryan via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info <mailto:indology at list.indology.info>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I'm curious if there are any creative etymologies or mythological explanations for the name “Pāṇini.” I don’t recall encountering any over the years. The word itself seems to be neuter in gender (if we assume an “in” suffix) and therefore somewhat unusual in designating a person.
>>> 
>>> Jim Ryan
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