[INDOLOGY] Re: archeological puzzle

Nagaraj Paturi nagarajpaturi at gmail.com
Tue Mar 2 18:28:09 UTC 2021


Prof. Deshpande,

That is another kind/category of Samadhi.

It is called Jeeva Samadhi.

Some Yogis get a tomb constructed around them while being alive. Such a
Samadhi is called Sajeeva Samaadhi.

Guru Raghavendra Swamy's Brindavan in Mantralayam belongs to that category.

Fingers in mudras etc. are possible in such cases.

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021, 10:20 PM Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu> wrote:

> Thanks, Nagraj Ji. I have seen some similar burial photos of Sannyasis in
> more recent times and they were not connected with the Veershaiva
> community. This is also the imagination about Jñāneśvara's Samādhi in the
> town of Alandi near Pune. The poetic description given by Namdev is that
> Jñāneśvara went inside the underground chamber and sat in a Yogic posture.
> Then the entrance to the chamber was closed with a large stone.  The
> popular belief is that Jñāneśvara is still alive in that chamber.
>
> Madhav M. Deshpande
> Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics
> University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
> Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies
> Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India
>
> [Residence: Campbell, California, USA]
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 8:18 AM Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Prof. Deshpande,
>>
>> The picture you shared is of a Veerashiva ascetic.
>>
>> Veerashaivas bury the bodies of their non-ascetic departed community
>> members too in a sitting posture only.
>>
>> But the skeleton under discussion seems to be holding some mudras which
>> is not a part of Veerashaiva tradition.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 7:23 PM Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Matthew,
>>>
>>>      I don't know anything about this particular Indus find. However, I
>>> have seen a photograph of the burial of a Sannyasi in this sort of a
>>> sitting position. Here is the report:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.theweek.in/news/india/2019/01/22/Lakhs-bid-tearful-adieu-to-Walking-God-Shivakumara-Swami.html
>>>
>>> Madhav
>>>
>>> Madhav M. Deshpande
>>> Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics
>>> University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
>>> Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies
>>> Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore,
>>> India
>>>
>>> [Residence: Campbell, California, USA]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 1:39 AM Matthew Kapstein <mkapstei at uchicago.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear friends,
>>>>
>>>> This article has been making the rounds among yoga and meditation
>>>> groups recently:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.indiadivine.org/2700-year-old-yogi-samadhi-found-indus-valley-civilization-archaeological-site/
>>>>
>>>> I am aware that the "proto-Siva" interpretation of certain Indus Valley
>>>> seals has been much contested during the last few decades but have no
>>>> knowledge of the other material discussed here.  If you know of pertinent
>>>> references to reliable sources that will help to shed light on this, I
>>>> would be most grateful.
>>>>
>>>> best regards,
>>>> Matthew
>>>>
>>>> Matthew Kapstein
>>>> Directeur d'études, émérite
>>>> Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, Paris
>>>>
>>>> Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies,
>>>> The University of Chicago
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>> --
>> Nagaraj Paturi
>>
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>>
>>
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