Re: [INDOLOGY] Aṅgula

Fri Jan 15 17:18:04 UTC 2021

अस्त्युत्तरस्यां दिशि देवतात्मा हिमालयो नाम नगाधिराजः* ।*
पूर्वापरौ तोयनिधीवगाह्य स्थितः पृथिव्या इव *मानदण्डः* ॥

On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 10:38 PM Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi at gmail.com>
wrote:

> मानदण्डः , मापदण्डः , मानदण्डम्‌ , मापदण्डम्‌
>
>   1) दण्डः, दण्डम्
> <https://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/app/apte_query.py?qs=%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%A3%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%83,%20%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%A3%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%8D&searchhws=yes> daṇḍaḥ,
> daṇḍam (p. 799
> <https://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/app/apte_query.py?page=799>)
>
> ...on MS.10.5.83; ˚वत् ind. in the manner of a *measuring* *rod.* -कल्पः
> Infliction of punishment; शुद्धचित्रश्च दण्डकल्पः Kau. A.4. -काकः a raven.
> -काण्ठम् a wooden club or staff; दण्डकाष्ठमवलम्ब्य स्थितः Ś2. -ग्रहणम्
> assumption of the staff...
>
>    2) मानः
> <https://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/app/apte_query.py?qs=%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%83&searchhws=yes> mānaḥ
> (p. 1261 <https://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/app/apte_query.py?page=1261>)
>
> ...Object, purpose. -नम् [मा-ल्युट्] 1 *Measuring.* -2 A measure,
> standard; माना- धीना मेयसिद्धिः Mīmāṁsā; निराकृतत्वाच्छ्रुतियुक्तिमानतः A.
> Rām.7.5.57. -3 Dimension, computation. -4 A standard of measure,
> *measuring* *rod,* rule; परिमाणं पात्रमानं संख्यै- कद्यादिसंज्ञिका
> Śukra.2.344.
>
>    3) शङ्कुः
> <https://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/app/apte_query.py?qs=%E0%A4%B6%E0%A4%99%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%83&searchhws=yes> śaṅkuḥ
> (p. 1528 <https://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/app/apte_query.py?page=1528>)
>
> -5 The trunk (of a lopped tree), stump, pollard. -6 The pin of a dial. -7
> A measure of twelve fingers. -8 A *measuring-rod.* -9 The sine of
> altitude (in astr.). -10 Ten billions. -11 The fibres of a leaf; यथा
> शङ्कुना सर्वाणि पर्णानि संतृण्णानि Ch. Up...
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 1:40 AM Artur Karp via INDOLOGY <
> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>
>> Any term, please, for 'tape measure' / 'measuring tape'?
>>
>> Artur Karp
>>
>>
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>> czw., 14 sty 2021 o 20:10 Jacob Schmidt-Madsen via INDOLOGY <
>> indology at list.indology.info> napisał(a):
>>
>>> Wow, thanks to everybody for the overwhelming response to my query on-
>>> and offlist!
>>>
>>> I now feel on much better footing when evaluating the use of aṅgula in
>>> the text I'm currently reading.
>>>
>>> Best wishes to all,
>>>
>>> Jacob
>>>
>>> Artur Karp via INDOLOGY skrev den 2021-01-14 19:42:
>>> > Aṅgulimāla
>>> >
>>> > A murderous robber "wearing a necklace of [human] fingers", known from
>>> > Buddhist sources.
>>> >
>>> > Question: Apart from Angulimala, is there any mention in ancient
>>> > Indian texts of someone wearing a finger necklace?
>>> >
>>> > Is there - perhaps - any mention of someone wearing a measuring tape
>>> > around their neck?
>>> >
>>> > With New Year's Greetings,
>>> >
>>> > Artur Karp
>>> >
>>> > University of Warsaw
>>> > Retired Senior Lecturer
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>>> > czw., 14 sty 2021 o 19:06 jmdelire via INDOLOGY
>>> > <indology at list.indology.info> napisał(a):
>>> >
>>> >> Hi, Everybody,
>>> >>
>>> >> First of all, I wish all the colleagues on the Indology list a very
>>> >> happy year 2021.
>>> >> The fact that aṅgula is defined in the BaudhŚulb. as 14 aṇu
>>> >> (I,3-4
>>> >> Thibaut numbering) or 34 tila (I,5) is not to be taken too
>>> >> seriously.
>>> >> The last one has something to do with the approximate value given by
>>> >>
>>> >> BaudhŚulb. I,62 to the dvikaraṇii (square root of 2, in a modern
>>> >> view)
>>> >> as 1 + 1/3 + 1/12 - 1/(12.34) and the first one with MānŚulb
>>> >> 10.1.2.6-7
>>> >> (Van Gelder), that implies an approximate value of 7/5. I developped
>>> >> all
>>> >> this in my book "Les mathématiques de l'autel védique" (Droz,
>>> >> 2016) and
>>> >> in a previous article : « Quadratures, circulature and the
>>> >> approximation
>>> >> of square root of 2 in the Indian Śulba-sūtras », Centaurus
>>> >> (International Magazine of the History of Mathematics, Science and
>>> >> Technology), vol.47 (2005), pp.60-71.
>>> >>
>>> >> All the best,
>>> >>
>>> >> Jean Michel Delire,
>>> >> Lecturer on Science and civilization in India - Sanskrit texts, IHEB
>>> >>
>>> >> (University of Brussels)
>>> >>
>>> >> Le 14.01.2021 18:15, Michaels, Axel via INDOLOGY a écrit :
>>> >>> Dear Patrick,Jacob and all,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> If _aṅgula_ would be ca. 2 cm, the length of a man (_puruṣa_)
>>> >>> would be acc. to BaudhŚulvS I,19 together with I,16 and 1,7
>>> >> approx.
>>> >>> 190 cm, which might be too much. If you calculate
>>> >> anthropometrically
>>> >>> in a realistic way, assuming that the average length of the male
>>> >> was
>>> >>> between 160 and 175 cm, _aṅgula_ would be approx. 1,6 cm. This
>>> >>> implies that _aṅgula_ might not be the breadth of a thumb but of
>>> >> the
>>> >>> middle fingertip, see also MānŚS VIII,13,7 (_aṅgulaparvan_).
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Another calculation could be based on palaeobotanic grounds: In
>>> >> the
>>> >>> Śulvasūtras and other texts, 1 _aṅgula_ is often equal to 34
>>> >>> _tila_ (Sesamum indicum) or 14 _aṇu_ (Panicum miliaceum) or 6
>>> >> resp.
>>> >>> 8 _yava_ (prob. Hordeum hexastichon). Whether this leads to a
>>> >> better
>>> >>> result, depends on whether it is measured broadside or longside,
>>> >>> whether the seeds are shucked or not, and whether the present
>>> >> seeds
>>> >>> are genetically manipulated or not. No easy task.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> More on this in my _ Beweisverfahren in der vedischen
>>> >> Sakralgeometrie_
>>> >>> (Wiesbaden 1978), pp. 156-7.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Best,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Axel Michaels
>>> >>>
>>> >>> FROM: INDOLOGY <indology-bounces at list.indology.info> on behalf of
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>>> >>> REPLY TO: "jacob at fabularasa.dk" <jacob at fabularasa.dk>
>>> >>> DATE: Thursday, 14. January 2021 at 17:03
>>> >>> TO: "indology at list.indology.info" <indology at list.indology.info>
>>> >>> SUBJECT: [INDOLOGY] Aṅgula
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Dear list,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Is there any consensus on what an aṅgula corresponds to in the
>>> >>> metric
>>> >>>
>>> >>> system? Or should we not consider it an absolute standard, but
>>> >> rather
>>> >>>
>>> >>> take it literally as the breadth of a finger (with all the
>>> >>> uncertainties
>>> >>>
>>> >>> that follow)? There are a lot of suggestions floating around on
>>> >> the
>>> >>>
>>> >>> internet, but I would be interested in any scholarly references.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Best,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Jacob
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Jacob Schmidt-Madsen
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Postdoctoral Researcher in Indology
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Department of Cross-Cultural and Regional Studies
>>> >>>
>>> >>> University of Copenhagen
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Denmark
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> Nagaraj Paturi
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> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.
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> Director,  Inter-Gurukula-University Centre , Indic Academy
> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra
> BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala
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-- 
Nagaraj Paturi

Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.

Director,  Inter-Gurukula-University Centre , Indic Academy
BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra
BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala
BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru.
Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru
Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies,
FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,
Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.

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