Re: [INDOLOGY] Aṅgula

Thu Jan 14 20:06:35 UTC 2021

Any term, please, for 'tape measure' / 'measuring tape'?

Artur Karp

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czw., 14 sty 2021 o 20:10 Jacob Schmidt-Madsen via INDOLOGY <
indology at list.indology.info> napisał(a):

> Wow, thanks to everybody for the overwhelming response to my query on-
> and offlist!
>
> I now feel on much better footing when evaluating the use of aṅgula in
> the text I'm currently reading.
>
> Best wishes to all,
>
> Jacob
>
> Artur Karp via INDOLOGY skrev den 2021-01-14 19:42:
> > Aṅgulimāla
> >
> > A murderous robber "wearing a necklace of [human] fingers", known from
> > Buddhist sources.
> >
> > Question: Apart from Angulimala, is there any mention in ancient
> > Indian texts of someone wearing a finger necklace?
> >
> > Is there - perhaps - any mention of someone wearing a measuring tape
> > around their neck?
> >
> > With New Year's Greetings,
> >
> > Artur Karp
> >
> > University of Warsaw
> > Retired Senior Lecturer
> >
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> > czw., 14 sty 2021 o 19:06 jmdelire via INDOLOGY
> > <indology at list.indology.info> napisał(a):
> >
> >> Hi, Everybody,
> >>
> >> First of all, I wish all the colleagues on the Indology list a very
> >> happy year 2021.
> >> The fact that aṅgula is defined in the BaudhŚulb. as 14 aṇu
> >> (I,3-4
> >> Thibaut numbering) or 34 tila (I,5) is not to be taken too
> >> seriously.
> >> The last one has something to do with the approximate value given by
> >>
> >> BaudhŚulb. I,62 to the dvikaraṇii (square root of 2, in a modern
> >> view)
> >> as 1 + 1/3 + 1/12 - 1/(12.34) and the first one with MānŚulb
> >> 10.1.2.6-7
> >> (Van Gelder), that implies an approximate value of 7/5. I developped
> >> all
> >> this in my book "Les mathématiques de l'autel védique" (Droz,
> >> 2016) and
> >> in a previous article : « Quadratures, circulature and the
> >> approximation
> >> of square root of 2 in the Indian Śulba-sūtras », Centaurus
> >> (International Magazine of the History of Mathematics, Science and
> >> Technology), vol.47 (2005), pp.60-71.
> >>
> >> All the best,
> >>
> >> Jean Michel Delire,
> >> Lecturer on Science and civilization in India - Sanskrit texts, IHEB
> >>
> >> (University of Brussels)
> >>
> >> Le 14.01.2021 18:15, Michaels, Axel via INDOLOGY a écrit :
> >>> Dear Patrick,Jacob and all,
> >>>
> >>> If _aṅgula_ would be ca. 2 cm, the length of a man (_puruṣa_)
> >>> would be acc. to BaudhŚulvS I,19 together with I,16 and 1,7
> >> approx.
> >>> 190 cm, which might be too much. If you calculate
> >> anthropometrically
> >>> in a realistic way, assuming that the average length of the male
> >> was
> >>> between 160 and 175 cm, _aṅgula_ would be approx. 1,6 cm. This
> >>> implies that _aṅgula_ might not be the breadth of a thumb but of
> >> the
> >>> middle fingertip, see also MānŚS VIII,13,7 (_aṅgulaparvan_).
> >>>
> >>> Another calculation could be based on palaeobotanic grounds: In
> >> the
> >>> Śulvasūtras and other texts, 1 _aṅgula_ is often equal to 34
> >>> _tila_ (Sesamum indicum) or 14 _aṇu_ (Panicum miliaceum) or 6
> >> resp.
> >>> 8 _yava_ (prob. Hordeum hexastichon). Whether this leads to a
> >> better
> >>> result, depends on whether it is measured broadside or longside,
> >>> whether the seeds are shucked or not, and whether the present
> >> seeds
> >>> are genetically manipulated or not. No easy task.
> >>>
> >>> More on this in my _ Beweisverfahren in der vedischen
> >> Sakralgeometrie_
> >>> (Wiesbaden 1978), pp. 156-7.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>>
> >>> Axel Michaels
> >>>
> >>> FROM: INDOLOGY <indology-bounces at list.indology.info> on behalf of
> >>> "indology at list.indology.info" <indology at list.indology.info>
> >>> REPLY TO: "jacob at fabularasa.dk" <jacob at fabularasa.dk>
> >>> DATE: Thursday, 14. January 2021 at 17:03
> >>> TO: "indology at list.indology.info" <indology at list.indology.info>
> >>> SUBJECT: [INDOLOGY] Aṅgula
> >>>
> >>> Dear list,
> >>>
> >>> Is there any consensus on what an aṅgula corresponds to in the
> >>> metric
> >>>
> >>> system? Or should we not consider it an absolute standard, but
> >> rather
> >>>
> >>> take it literally as the breadth of a finger (with all the
> >>> uncertainties
> >>>
> >>> that follow)? There are a lot of suggestions floating around on
> >> the
> >>>
> >>> internet, but I would be interested in any scholarly references.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>>
> >>> Jacob
> >>>
> >>> Jacob Schmidt-Madsen
> >>>
> >>> Postdoctoral Researcher in Indology
> >>>
> >>> Department of Cross-Cultural and Regional Studies
> >>>
> >>> University of Copenhagen
> >>>
> >>> Denmark
> >>>
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