From mailmealakendudas at rediffmail.com Thu Apr 1 10:06:45 2021 From: mailmealakendudas at rediffmail.com (alakendu das) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 21 10:06:45 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Re: Sanskrit term Message-ID: <1617271439.S.31804.autosave.drafts.1617271605.14132@webmail.rediffmail.com> I wonder whether it is , in fact,PatiParamGuru, . Alakendu Das  Sent from RediffmailNG on Android From: "Olivelle, J P" <jpo at austin.utexas.edu> Sent: Tue, 30 Mar 2021 02:06:02 GMT+0530 To: Indology Mailing List <indology at list.indology.info> Subject: [INDOLOGY] Sanskrit term iWe couldn't verify the sender of this email.Dear All: I wonder whether any of you have come across the expression: pariparamaguru? I find this in a text I am editing, although this sentence cited by T. Ganapati Sastri omits the initial pari. It could be he just felt it was a mistake, but I want to be sure that it not another way of referring to the par?tparaguru. Thanks. Patrick _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology at list.indology.info To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From timfelixaufderheide at gmail.com Thu Apr 1 10:22:08 2021 From: timfelixaufderheide at gmail.com (Tim Felix Aufderheide) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 21 12:22:08 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Book by van der Hoogt Message-ID: <8465b665-7cef-6258-db7b-0e96f85bb0d5@gmail.com> Dear List, does anybody has access to a soft copy of ??? Hoogt, J.M. van der. 1929. The Vedic Chant Studied in Its Texttual and Melodic Form. Wageningen: Veenman. and would be willing to share it? Thanks in advance and best regards Tim From dnreigle at gmail.com Fri Apr 2 16:33:44 2021 From: dnreigle at gmail.com (David and Nancy Reigle) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 21 10:33:44 -0600 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Re: Book by van der Hoogt In-Reply-To: <8465b665-7cef-6258-db7b-0e96f85bb0d5@gmail.com> Message-ID: In case anyone else may want it, I have now scanned my copy of this book. Just email me off-list for it. The scan is about 10 megabytes. Best regards, David Reigle Colorado, U.S.A. On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 4:22 AM Tim Felix Aufderheide < timfelixaufderheide at gmail.com> wrote: > Dear List, > > does anybody has access to a soft copy of > > Hoogt, J.M. van der. 1929. The Vedic Chant Studied in Its Texttual > and Melodic Form. Wageningen: Veenman. > > and would be willing to share it? > > Thanks in advance and best regards > > Tim > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology at list.indology.info > To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ondracka at ff.cuni.cz Sun Apr 4 07:49:26 2021 From: ondracka at ff.cuni.cz (=?utf-8?Q?Lubom=C3=ADr_Ondra=C4=8Dka?=) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 21 09:49:26 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Re: Book by van der Hoogt In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20210404094926.4eb0844e3e5397b0b83c51d2@ff.cuni.cz> Dear colleagues, with David Reigle's consent, I uploaded his scan of Hoogt's book to archive.org. Here is the link: https://archive.org/details/hoogt-the-vedic-chant-studied-in-its-textual-and-melodic-form Best Lubomir On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 10:33:44 -0600 David and Nancy Reigle wrote: > In case anyone else may want it, I have now scanned my copy of this book. > Just email me off-list for it. The scan is about 10 megabytes. > > Best regards, > > David Reigle > Colorado, U.S.A. > > On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 4:22 AM Tim Felix Aufderheide < > timfelixaufderheide at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Dear List, > > > > does anybody has access to a soft copy of > > > > Hoogt, J.M. van der. 1929. The Vedic Chant Studied in Its Texttual > > and Melodic Form. Wageningen: Veenman. > > > > and would be willing to share it? > > > > Thanks in advance and best regards > > > > Tim > > _______________________________________________ > > INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology at list.indology.info > > To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave at list.indology.info > > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > > committee) > > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > > unsubscribe) From drdhaval2785 at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 03:59:41 2021 From: drdhaval2785 at gmail.com (Dhaval Patel) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 21 09:29:41 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Amarapadavivriti Adyar edition part 1 Message-ID: Dear friends, I have the following scan of the Adyar edition of Amarakosha with three southern commentaries, but it ends abruptly at page number 328. https://archive.org/download/amarakoshavol1adyar_963__/Amarakosha%20Vol1%20Adyar.pdf If any one of you have and can share a complete scan on list / off list, which covers pages 329 to 648, I would be grateful. -- Dr. Dhaval Patel, I.A.S Collector and District Magistrate, Surat www.sanskritworld.in -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Script Invention and Revitalization in Eastern and Northeastern India since 1950 Wednesday April 14, 11:00am-12:30pm EDT Register via Zoom: https://loc.zoomgov.com/webinar/register/WN_CDe0zB-uT_aZzZOO1U7RmQ In this livestreamed lecture, Tim Brookes ? a world authority on endangered writing systems and director of the Endangered Alphabets Project ? will discuss the recent history of two areas of India that have seen vibrant movements to create or recreate writing systems for languages, such as Santali and Sora. These efforts by communities who speak these languages provide alternatives to external pressures to render languages in dominant scripts like Devanagari and the Roman alphabet. This lecture is part of the Library?s ?Endangered Alphabets and Why We Write? lecture series. See the registration links below for information on the other two lectures in this series: Africa: Writing beyond Writing Wednesday 4/7, 11:00am to 12:30pm EDT Register via Zoom: https://loc.zoomgov.com/webinar/register/WN_j1_EJSqPTwKhQhZzjSx7QQ Southeast Asian Scripts: From the Centers to the Margins Wednesday 4/21, 12:00pm to 1:30pm EDT Register via Zoom: https://loc.zoomgov.com/webinar/register/WN_yAsfz6O0SYybolqyDP2piw Kind regards, Jon Jonathan Loar, Ph.D. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ South Asia Reference Librarian Asian Division, Library of Congress jloa at loc.gov (202) 707-3417 4 Corners of the World Blog and its South Asia content International Collections Facebook Page -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <376AAB18-0482-4BC3-A0F6-F67115BBD5B2@googlemail.com> Best, James From emstern1948 at gmail.com Mon Apr 5 16:01:46 2021 From: emstern1948 at gmail.com (Elliot Stern) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 21 12:01:46 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Re: Amarapadavivriti Adyar edition part 1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <92418495-FA52-4F52-A30A-052B18F0A136@gmail.com> This scan, also at archive.org , appears to be complete: https://ia601602.us.archive.org/5/items/in.ernet.dli.2015.406520/2015.406520.Amarakosa-Part-i.pdf Elliot M. Stern 552 South 48th Street Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029 emstern1948 at gmail.com 267-240-8418 > On Apr 4, 2021, at 11:59 PM, Dhaval Patel wrote: > > Dear friends, > I have the following scan of the Adyar edition of Amarakosha with three southern commentaries, but it ends abruptly at page number 328. > https://archive.org/download/amarakoshavol1adyar_963__/Amarakosha%20Vol1%20Adyar.pdf > > If any one of you have and can share a complete scan on list / off list, which covers pages 329 to 648, I would be grateful. > > > -- > Dr. Dhaval Patel, I.A.S > Collector and District Magistrate, Surat > www.sanskritworld.in _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology at list.indology.info > To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Stern > 552 South 48th Street > Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029 > emstern1948 at gmail.com > 267-240-8418 > > On Apr 4, 2021, at 11:59 PM, Dhaval Patel wrote: > > Dear friends, > I have the following scan of the Adyar edition of Amarakosha with three > southern commentaries, but it ends abruptly at page number 328. > > https://archive.org/download/amarakoshavol1adyar_963__/Amarakosha%20Vol1%20Adyar.pdf > > If any one of you have and can share a complete scan on list / off list, > which covers pages 329 to 648, I would be grateful. > > > -- > Dr. Dhaval Patel, I.A.S > Collector and District Magistrate, Surat > www.sanskritworld.in > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology at list.indology.info > To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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To clarify, whereas Skrutable's transliteration and meter tools, available via the same interface, are programmed by myself, I haven't changed or improved the 2018 Splitter tool at all, but rather just facilitated access to it with the authors' blessings. As they themselves point out, eventually this Splitter tool should be improved and/or superseded, e.g. in order to deal more robustly with various orthographies and genre-specific idioms, and/or to distinguish between inter-word and intra-compound boundaries, but for now, even with less-than-perfectly ideal output, it's still quite nice to have on hand, as I think you'll now be able to agree. Kudos and thanks again to Oliver and Sebastian for their great work. I'll happily consider feedback on the interface in particular. Kind regards, Tyler -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If anyone has a pdf of it, I would be very grateful, if they would share it with me. > > Kalyanov, V. I., 'On Krsna's diplomatics in the Mah?bh?rata', Indologica Taurinensia, Vol. 7, 1979, 299?308. > > Best, > > James Hegarty > Cardiff University > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology at list.indology.info > To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nicole.karapanagiotis at gmail.com Tue Apr 6 18:26:04 2021 From: nicole.karapanagiotis at gmail.com (Nicole Karapanagiotis) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 21 14:26:04 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] New Book Announcement: Branding Bhakti: Krishna Consciousness and the Makeover of a Movement Message-ID: Dear friends, I am very excited to announce the publication of my first book, *Branding Bhakti: Krishna Consciousness and the Makeover of a Movement *(Indiana University Press, April 2021). *From the jacket:* *How do religious groups reinvent themselves in order to attract new audiences? How do they rebrand their messages and recast their rituals in order to make their followers more diverse?* *In Branding Bhakti, Nicole Karapanagiotis considers the new branding of the Hare Krishna Movement, or the International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON). Known primarily for their orange robes, shaved heads, ecstatic dancing on the streets, and exuberant Hindu-style temple worship, many contemporary ISKCON groups are radically reinventing their public presentation and their style of worship in order to attract a global audience to their movement. Karapanagiotis explores their innovative and complex approaches in both the United States and India by following three new ISKCON brands aimed at gathering new followers. Each is led by a world-renowned ISKCON guru and his global disciples, and each is promoted through a mix of digital and social media and the construction of an innovative "worship-scape." These new spaces trade ISKCON's traditional temples for corporate work-life balance programs, posh yoga studios, urban spiritual lounges, edgy mantra clubs/lofts, and rural meditative retreat facilities.* *Branding Bhakti not only investigates the methods the ISKCON movement uses to position itself for growth but also highlights devotees' painful and complicated struggles as they work to transform their shrinking, sectarian movement into one with global religious appeal.* It's available on the Indiana University Press webpage (link here: https://iupress.org/9780253054890/branding-bhakti/ ), and at other fine locations. Cheers, Nicole Karapanagiotis -- Dr. Nicole Karapanagiotis, Ph.D. She/her Asst. 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Mail to the committee can be sent to indology-owner at list.indology.info, again as before. *The Archive* The archive will look familiar . We've gone back to the traditional display that many of us asked for. The search facility is now right there on the archive page. The indexes for searching are recalculated once a day. As I write this email, the index hasn't been calculated yet, so you can't search yet. But it will come to life tomorrow. *Settings* Your personal preferences and your password have been reset to default values. Sorry about that, but it was unavoidable. So if you want, say, a weekly digest, I'm afraid that you will have to go to your control panel and set things back to the way you want them. The address for doing that is - https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology Once you get to that page, scroll to the bottom and put your email address into the last field. 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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2021 06:29:52 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Sanskrit floating in midair Message-ID: Dear List Members, I am looking for a passage in a book by Louis Renou in which he writes that Sanskrit literature is floating in midair ? not necessarily in these words, but this is how I remember it. I do not remember, however, where I read it (Histoire de la langue sanskrite?, which booklet I left behind, when I had to vacate my room in the Kern Institute). I hope some one can help me with the location of the passage and the literal text of it. With kind regards, Herman Herman Tieken Stationsweg 58 2515 BP Den Haag The Netherlands 00 31 (0)70 2208127 website: hermantieken.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Floating Economies describes for the first time the complex intermeshing economy, social structure and ecology of the area against the background of history and the present volatile socio-political situation. Using a holistic and multidisciplinary approach, the author deals with the socioeconomic strategies of the communities whose livelihoods are embedded here and analyses the ecological condition of the Dal, and the reasons for its progressive degradation. https://www.berghahnbooks.com/title/CasimirFloating/loc Kindly regarding, Walter Slaje -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints P?res F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 T?l. +33 (0)6 7892 5822 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte FSF https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/presenting-shoetool-happy-holidays-from-the-fsf -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ligature.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 3807 bytes Desc: not available URL: From heike.oberlin at uni-tuebingen.de Thu Apr 8 11:13:29 2021 From: heike.oberlin at uni-tuebingen.de (Heike Oberlin) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2021 13:13:29 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] ligature in grantha script In-Reply-To: <66a38bc2-1565-e0f6-1eaf-09b31f199347@mi.parisdescartes.fr> References: <66a38bc2-1565-e0f6-1eaf-09b31f199347@mi.parisdescartes.fr> Message-ID: <2C248B00-2286-4912-89C2-EA0C7C10C47A@uni-tuebingen.de> Dear Fran?ois Patte, Looks like early Malayalam. Is the manuscript rom Kerala? The modern writing of rya in Malayalam is ??? Best wishes, Heike Oberlin ------------------- Prof. Dr. Heike Oberlin Head of the Department of Indology Eberhard Karls University of Tuebingen Keplerstr. 2 (room 139) ? 72074 Tuebingen ? Germany Phone +49 7071 29-74005 ? Mobile +49 176 20030066 heike.oberlin at uni-tuebingen.de https://uni-tuebingen.de/en/9974 *** Latest publications: ? Heike Oberlin & David Shulman (ed.). 2019. Two Masterpieces of K??iy???am: Mantr??kam and A?gul?y??kam. New Delhi: Oxford University Press. ? Heike Oberlin & Frank K?hler (ed.). 2020. Die 1000 Namen Vishnus. Vi??usahasran?ma. Sanskrit-Handschriften aus der Sammlung Heide und Wolfgang Voelter. T?bingen: Museum der Universit?t T?bingen MUT. *** > Am 08.04.2021 um 12:00 schrieb Fran?ois Patte : > > Bonjour, > > In an 18th century manuscript I found a ligature "rya" (see attached document) which is not as this ligature is supposed to be in grantha: the ligature r-y does not follow the same rule as for other letters (d-y, t-y etc.) but here r is treated as the other letters. > > Is it a scribe mistake or does this ligature exists (or has existed) as a variant? > > Thank you. > -- > Fran?ois Patte > UFR de math?matiques et informatique > Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145 > Universit? Paris Descartes > 45, rue des Saints P?res > F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 > T?l. +33 (0)6 7892 5822 > http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte > FSF > https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/presenting-shoetool-happy-holidays-from-the-fsf > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vbd203 at googlemail.com Thu Apr 8 11:17:20 2021 From: vbd203 at googlemail.com (victor davella) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2021 12:17:20 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?b?S8SBZGFtYmFyxKs=?= Message-ID: Dear all, Does anyone happen to have a PDF of the reproduction of the NSP K?dambar? by Nag Publishers, 1985? It contains a ?ippa?? that can be helpful. I didn't find it on archive.org but may have missed it. All the Best, Victor -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From dimitrov at staff.uni-marburg.de Sat Apr 10 15:08:01 2021 From: dimitrov at staff.uni-marburg.de (Dragomir Dimitrov) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2021 17:08:01 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?b?TkVXIEJPT0s6IOG4jMSBbiBLdmlr4bmjb+G5rWE=?= =?utf-8?b?4bil?= Message-ID: <6071BF51.25807.10C6C8D8@dimitrov.staff.uni-marburg.de> NEW BOOK ANNOUNCEMENT ???? ?????????? Don Quixote (Chapters I.2, I.3, I.8, I.10, I.16, I.17, I.18 & I.23) By Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra Translated from English into Sanskrit by Jagaddhar Zadoo & Nityanand Shastri Introduced and edited by Dragomir Dimitrov With a reprint of the English translation by Charles Jarvis and An audio recording of the Sanskrit text by Shrikant Bahulkar Pune 2019 Pune Indological Series, vol. III Hardcover, cx, 292 pp. 21 illustrations in colour and halftone Incl. audiobook (Total time: 5h 28min) Publisher: Department of Pali, Savitribai Phule Pune University ISBN: 978-81-941184-2-8 Price: INR 2400 SUMMARY: The present book contains a modern Sanskrit translation of eight chapters from the First Part of Cervantes?s monumental Don Quijote. At the suggestion of the American accountant and book collector Carl Tilden Keller (1872?1955) and with the mediation of the British explorer Sir Marc Aurel Stein (1862?1943) from November 1935 until August 1936 Pandit Nityanand Shastri (1874?1942) and Pandit Jagaddhar Zadoo (1890?1981) translated chapters I.2, I.3, I.8, I.10, I.16, I.17, I.18, and I.23 of Don Quijote. For this purpose the two Kashmiri scholars did not use the Spanish original, but rather the English translation by Charles Jarvis (c. 1675?1739) prepared in the first half of the eighteenth century and edited by the British Hispanist James Fitzmaurice-Kelly (1858?1923) in 1907 for the Oxford World?s Classics series. In this book both the Sanskrit translation and the corresponding parts of Jarvis?s English version are printed on facing pages. The Sanskrit text, typeset with a newly produced historical reconstruction of a Nagari typeface designed by the German critic, translator, poet, and Sanskritist August Wilhelm von Schlegel (1767?1845), has been edited on the basis of a unique manuscript which was written in Kashmir in the winter of 1936/37 and is now kept at the Houghton Library of Harvard University, USA. This publication includes an overview of the reception of Cervantes?s classic in India, as well as a detailed study of the fascinating history of the Sanskrit translation of Don Quijote and its still unedited partial rendering in Kashmiri. The printed book is accompanied by an audiobook containing the recording of the entire Sanskrit text read by Prof. Shrikant Bahulkar in Pune in 2017/18. "???? ?????????? / Don Quixote" will appeal to specialists with interests in a variety of fields such as Sanskrit philology, modern Sanskrit studies, manuscriptology, history of Indology, Romance languages and literature, as well as translational and cultural studies. The printed book can be ordered at: http://cms.unipune.ac.in/pis https://www.vajrabookshop.com http://www.adityaprakashan.com An e-book version (PDF) can be procured from: http://cms.unipune.ac.in/pis The free Sanskrit audiobook can be downloaded from: http://cms.unipune.ac.in/pis/books/pis003/DanKviksota.zip https://opac.sub.uni-goettingen.de/DB=1.20/XMLPRS=N/PPN?PPN=16 71557492 http://www.dragomir-dimitrov.net/quijote With best wishes (and apologies for the extremely delayed announcement), Dragomir Dimitrov ________________________________________ Dr. habil. Dragomir Dimitrov Heisenberg-Stelle (DFG) Indologie und Tibetologie Philipps-Universit?t Marburg Deutschhausstr. 12 D-35032 Marburg Germany Tel.: +49 178 9190340 E-mail: dimitrov at staff.uni-marburg.de http://www.uni-marburg.de/indologie ________________________________________ From gasyoun at ya.ru Sun Apr 11 08:57:54 2021 From: gasyoun at ya.ru (=?utf-8?B?TcSBcmNpcyBHYXPFq25z?=) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2021 11:57:54 +0300 Subject: [INDOLOGY] RV, AV & Panini Hyperlinks at Cologne Dictionaries Message-ID: <879611618131062@mail.yandex.ru> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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What the origin of this ligature > is, I can?t tell for sure: perhaps it is to be looked for in the > so-called ?Jaina? Grantha, i.e. the Tamilian Grantha used in jaina > circles (which is possibly the model for the design of the printing > types for Tamilian Grantha); perhaps in the (Grantha) Malayalam script, > as Heike suggested; perhaps earlier than both, in the Grantha > inscriptions of, say, the 16th century. > > It is years that I study the Grantha script, and I'd be very grateful to > you if you could tell me in which manuscript you found this ligature and > whether the manuscript is explicitly dated or you dated it to the 18th > century on the basis of palaeographic considerations. Thank you for your answer. It is a manuscript in French written by a Tamil who was the interpreter of the french king in Pondicherry in the years 1770/1790. It is a memoir on the astronomy in use at that time on the Coromandel coast. He was a christian and the french astronomer Le Gentil describes him as a very learned person knowing Sanskrit, Latin and Greek and (of course) French. In this memoir, he gives words and quotations in Tamil, written in tamil script and in Sanskrit, written in grantha script. There are several non-standard ligatures, the one I already sent, and others I attach to this mail. I am wondering if these ligatures are local variants or if the author did not know very well the rules of grantha script. I have also a question about the vowell "u" which is written like a "?" (or a "i"?). I give some exemples in the attached file. I think that it is a "u" instead of a "?" because he give the full text of the Vararuci's v?kya and I can compare with the edition of these v?kya given in the Haricarita edited by Pandit Krishnamacarya. For this problem, I am wondering if it a variant in the script or a mistake due to the pronunciation of the vowell "?" wich is pronounced like a "ru" in some parts of India. For instance, in this text, the author call the Sanskrit, the "sanskroutam". Thank you and best regards -- Fran?ois Patte UFR de math?matiques et informatique Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145 Universit? Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints P?res F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 T?l. +33 (0)6 7892 5822 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte FSF https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/presenting-shoetool-happy-holidays-from-the-fsf -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ligatures.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 206368 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In the Apohav?da chapter of his ?lokav?rttika, the seventh-century Hindu philosopher Kum?rila undertakes an exhaustive critique of the distinctive Buddhist theory of meaning, the ?theory of exclusion?, or Apohav?da. According to this theory, which was introduced by the sixth-century Buddhist thinker Dign?ga, a word refers not to some positive entity such as a universal, but to an ?exclusion?. It became one of the core teachings of the Buddhist epistemological tradition. The debate on it is illustrative of the Buddhist-Brahmin disputes that shaped the development of classical Indian philosophy. This translation of Kum?rila?s chapter, together with a critical edition, is accompanied by a running explanation based on the classical commentaries and extensive notes. ----------------- Hartmut Walravens, Agnes Stache-Weiske: Der Linguist Anton Schiefner (1817?1879) und sein Netzwerk ? Briefe an Emil Schlagintweit, Leo Reinisch, Franz v. Miklosich, Vatroslav Jagi?, K. S. Veselovskij, Eduard Pabst, Vilhelm Thomsen und andere. ISBN13: 978-3-7001-8397-6. EUR 125. https://verlag.oeaw.ac.at/der-linguist-anton-schiefner-18171879-netzwerk-briefe-emil-schlagintweit-leo-reinisch-franz-v-miklosich-vatroslav-jagi-k-s-veselovskij-eduard-pabst-vilhelm-thomsen-andere The correspondence of the linguist Anton Schiefner covers the years 1843 to 1879 and deals with a great variety of subjects. The present volume offers an historical survey on the situation and development of Linguistics of that period, owing to the manifold activities and interests of the author (i.a. Classical Philology, Finno-Ugric languages, Slavic languages, Tibetan, Caucasian languages) and of his correspondents, scattered all over Europe, as well. The present volume is complemented by various illustrations and extensive indices. Orders can be placed at https://verlag.oeaw.ac.at/, enquiries can be directed to verlag at oeaw.ac.at. With best regards, Birgit Kellner -- Prof. Birgit Kellner, PhD Direktorin Institut f?r Kultur- und Geistesgeschichte Asiens ?sterreichische Akademie der Wissenschaften Hollandstra?e 11-13/2 1020 Wien Prof. Birgit Kellner, PhD Director Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia Austrian Academy of Sciences Hollandstrasse 11-13/2 1020 Vienna Austria Tel./Phone: +43-(0)-1-51581-6420 Web: http://ikga.oeaw.ac.at From rolfheiner.koch at gmail.com Sun Apr 11 13:50:23 2021 From: rolfheiner.koch at gmail.com (Rolf Heinrich Koch) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2021 15:50:23 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?q?Kopp=3A_Manorathap=C5=ABran=C4=AB_vol_1_und?= =?utf-8?q?_vol_3?= Message-ID: <42a81ca4-0042-141a-748f-976f2c0b5ee0@gmail.com> Dear listmembers, if anyone of you holds the pdfs of the two PTS-volumes mentioned in the headline, I would be very grateful. Archive.org has vol. 2 and 4. Thank you Heiner Koch -- Dr. Rolf Heinrich Koch www.rolfheinrichkoch.wordpress.com From wujastyk at gmail.com Sun Apr 11 21:14:23 2021 From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2021 15:14:23 -0600 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Unknown sign in a Nepalese MS Message-ID: I am looking for help with these signs that I'm seeing in the fifteenth-century Nepalese MS, MS Kathmandu NAK 5-333 : [image: image.png] and [image: image.png] Here, the surrounding word is p?ke These symbols are not letters, since they don't contribute to the surrounding text, but interrupt it. I have wondered whether they are the scribe expressing that his archetype has a string-hole at this place, perhaps, but I don't see the symbols often enough for that. They occur rather rarely. Has anyone seen these? Best, Dominik -- Professor Dominik Wujastyk , Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity , Department of History and Classics , University of Alberta, Canada . 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Generally helpful in such cases is Katrin Einicke, ?Korrektur, Differenzierung und Abk?rzung in indischen Inschriften und Handschriften?, Wiesbaden 2009 (references to relevant pages in my PDF). Hope this helps, best regards, Birgit Am 11.04.21 um 23:14 schrieb Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY: > I am looking for help with these signs that I'm seeing in the > fifteenth-century Nepalese MS, MS Kathmandu NAK 5-333 > : > > image.png > > and > > image.png > > Here, the surrounding word is p?ke > > These symbols are not letters, since they don't contribute to the > surrounding text, but interrupt it.? I have wondered whether they are > the scribe expressing that his archetype has a string-hole at this > place, perhaps, but I don't see the symbols often enough for that.? > They occur rather rarely. > > Has anyone seen these? > > Best, > Dominik > > -- > Professor Dominik Wujastyk > > , > > Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity > , > > Department of History and Classics > > , > University of Alberta, Canada > . > > > South Asia at the U of A: > sas.ualberta.ca > > SSHRC research: The Su?ruta Project > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology -- Prof. Birgit Kellner, PhD Direktorin Institut f?r Kultur- und Geistesgeschichte Asiens ?sterreichische Akademie der Wissenschaften Hollandstra?e 11-13/2 1020 Wien Prof. Birgit Kellner, PhD Director Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia Austrian Academy of Sciences Hollandstrasse 11-13/2 1020 Vienna Austria Tel./Phone: +43-(0)-1-51581-6420 Web: http://ikga.oeaw.ac.at -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best, Dominik On Sun, 11 Apr 2021 at 23:08, Birgit Kellner wrote: > Dominik, > > I came across similar signs in proto-Bengali manuscripts and gathered some > information and documentation with the help of my colleagues in Vienna. > > I'm attaching a PDF summarizing what I found (this was back in 2017). It's > interesting that they would occur in a Nepalese ms. this late. > > Generally helpful in such cases is Katrin Einicke, ?Korrektur, > Differenzierung und Abk?rzung in indischen Inschriften und Handschriften?, > Wiesbaden 2009 (references to relevant pages in my PDF). > > Hope this helps, > > best regards, > > Birgit > > > Am 11.04.21 um 23:14 schrieb Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY: > > I am looking for help with these signs that I'm seeing in the > fifteenth-century Nepalese MS, MS Kathmandu NAK 5-333 > : > > [image: image.png] > > and > > [image: image.png] > > Here, the surrounding word is p?ke > > These symbols are not letters, since they don't contribute to the > surrounding text, but interrupt it. I have wondered whether they are the > scribe expressing that his archetype has a string-hole at this place, > perhaps, but I don't see the symbols often enough for that. They occur > rather rarely. > > Has anyone seen these? > > Best, > Dominik > > -- > Professor Dominik Wujastyk > > , > > Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity > , > > Department of History and Classics > > , > University of Alberta, Canada > . > > > South Asia at the U of A: > > sas.ualberta.ca > > SSHRC research: The Su?ruta Project > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing listINDOLOGY at list.indology.infohttps://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > -- > Prof. Birgit Kellner, PhD > Direktorin > Institut f?r Kultur- und Geistesgeschichte Asiens > ?sterreichische Akademie der Wissenschaften > Hollandstra?e 11-13/2 > 1020 Wien > > Prof. Birgit Kellner, PhD > Director > Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia > Austrian Academy of Sciences > Hollandstrasse 11-13/2 > 1020 Vienna > Austria > > Tel./Phone: +43-(0)-1-51581-6420 > Web: http://ikga.oeaw.ac.at > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The Domestication of ?Hindu? Asceticism and the Religious Making of South and Southeast Asia. The DHARMA project ERC n ? 809994 has been launched on May 1st 2019. It is a 6-year project (2019-2025) financed on an ERC Synergy Grant 2018 through the European Union?s Research and Innovation Programme Horizon 2020. dharma.hypotheses.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: dr03321_Schmiedchen.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 166210 bytes Desc: dr03321_Schmiedchen.pdf URL: From Karen.OBrien-Kop at roehampton.ac.uk Mon Apr 12 17:58:34 2021 From: Karen.OBrien-Kop at roehampton.ac.uk (Karen O'Brien-Kop) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 17:58:34 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Reminder: 46th Spalding Symposium on Indian Religions Message-ID: Dear colleagues You are invited to the 46th Spalding Symposium on Indian Religions, to be held online from April 23-25th. Schedule and booking details below. Best wishes The Spalding Symposium Organising Committee Spalding Symposium schedule Friday 23rd April 11.55-12.00: Welcome 12.00-13.00: Keynote Address Jacqueline Suthren Hirst (University of Manchester) When is a Blue Lotus not a Blue Lotus? Categorisation, Learning and Epistemic Shifts 13.00-13.15: Coffee Break 13.15-14.15: Arun Brahmbhatt (St Lawrence University) Debating the Scholastic ?Other? in Swaminarayan Literature 14.15-15.15: Heleen De Jonckheere (University of Chicago) Vernacularising Jainism. The Dharmapar?k?? by Manohard?ss 15.15-15.30: Coffee Break Postgraduate papers: 15.30-16.00: Szilvia Szanyi (University of Oxford) The Changing Meanings of the Term ??raya in Vasubandhu?s Abhidharmako?abh??ya 16.00-16.30: Ranjamrittika Bhowmik (University of Oxford) Mystical Utterances of Sahaja: The Soul-Body Amalgam in Cary?g?ti, Tukkh? and B?ul-Fakir Songs of Bengal 16.30-17.00: Seema Chauhan (University of Chicago) Parodying M?m??s? Epistemology Through a Jaina R?m?ya?a Saturday 24th April 11.00-12.00: Ananya Vajpeyi (Centre for the Study of Developing Societies) The Ethics of Poetry and the Poetry of Ethics: Bhart?hari?s Three Hundred Reconsidered 12.00-13.00: Karl-St?phan Bouthilette (University of Ghent) Acknowledging the Philosophical and Spiritual Value of Doxography as a Literary Genre 13.00-13.15: Coffee Break 13.15-14.15: Christopher T. Fleming (University of Oxford) Devasvatva: New Contributions to the Study of the Sanskrit Jurisprudence of Divine Ownership 14.15-15.15: Caley Smith (University of Washington) What Kind of a Subject is the Vedic ??dra? 15.15-15.30: Coffee Break 15.30-16.30: Stuart Ray Sarbacker (Oregon State University) P?ta?jala Yoga and Buddhist Abhidharma on Extraordinary Perfections and Accomplishments: A Comparison of P?ta?jalayoga??stra 4.1 and Abhidharmako?a 7.53 on the sources of Siddhi and ?ddhi 16.30-17.15: Plenary Teaching Indian Religions in an Online and (Post-)Pandemic Age Sunday 25th April 12.00-13.00: Charles DiSimone (University of Ghent) Notes on Recent Buddhist Manuscript Discoveries from Mes Aynak and Greater Gandh?ra 13.00-13.15: Coffee Break 13.15-14.15: Jonathan Duquette (University of Cambridge) Power, Independence and Divinity: A ?aiva Response to Ve?ka?an?tha?s View of the Goddess 14.15-15.15: Deepak Sarma (Case Western Reserve University) Comparison as Means of Colonization, Comparison as Strategy to Controvert: Madhva Vedanta and Christianity 15.15-15.30: Coffee Break Postgraduate papers: 15.30-16.00: Radha Blinderman (Harvard University) Why K???a and ?akti Have Their Own Grammars: Rivalry and Innovation in Sectarian Grammars of Sanskrit 16.00-16.30: Charlotte Gorant (Columbia University) N?gas in Early Buddhism: Fluidity and Framing Presence in Art 16.30-17.30: Keynote Address Oliver Freiberger (University of Texas at Austin) Comparing Religion Within and Beyond South Asia 17.30-17.35: Closing Remarks To register for this event and to receive the abstracts, visit: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/46th-spalding-symposium-on-indian-religions-tickets-142207834461 Dr. Karen O'Brien-Kop (FHEA) Lecturer in Asian Religions and Ethics Convenor: BA Religion, Theology, and Culture Office hours: Wed 3.00-4.30pm (please email for appointment) Howard 210, School of Humanities University of Roehampton, London SW15 5PH karen.obrien-kop at roehampton.ac.uk Tel: +44 (0)208 392 3427 New edited volume here: Routledge Research Handbook of Yoga and Meditation Studies (2020) ________________________________ This email and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the addressee and may also be privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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You can now vote-up your favourite websites on the "External resources " page :-) Best wishes, Dominik Wujastyk INDOLOGY list committee member -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From himal.trikha at univie.ac.at Tue Apr 13 05:18:57 2021 From: himal.trikha at univie.ac.at (Himal Trikha) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2021 07:18:57 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?b?dHJpYmh1dmFuYeG5gyBiaMSBdGkgYmhyYW3EgW4g?= =?utf-8?q?nirbhaye?= Message-ID: <991dd758-18f9-c470-cb70-f89292343855@univie.ac.at> Dear list members, I am looking for a further attestation of the strophe below, which I came across in a P?rvapak?a ascribed to a/some Brahmav?din/s in the Satya??sanapar?k?? (ed. Gokulacandra Jain 1964, p. 2). The strophe is used to exemplify the concept that transformations (vivarta) of the brahman are illusions (m?y?) only. An earlier source for the strophe would have to be dated in or before the 10th century. With many thanks for any reference, Himal Trikha https://univie.academia.edu/HimalTrikha --- yasmin rajjubhuja?gavat tribhuvana? bh?ti bhram?n nirbhaye | so 'ha? nityanir?may?m?tavapu? sa?s?ras?ra? param || _ _ _ v v _ v _ v v v _ _ _ v _ _ v _ _ _ _ v v _ v _ v v v _ _ _ v _ _ v _ "It's me [who is] the supreme, the essence of transmigration, [whose] shape is permanent, without ill and immortal, upon whom the threefold world appears out of error like a snake upon a rope, although [I am / it is a place] without fright." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmmadaio at gmail.com Tue Apr 13 09:39:12 2021 From: jmmadaio at gmail.com (J M) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2021 11:39:12 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Journal of Hindu Studies 13.3 Message-ID: Dear colleagues, Apologies for cross-posting. The latest issue (13.3) of the Journal of Hindu Studies was recently published. Please find the table of contents below. The Journal of Hindu Studies welcomes open submission of articles on all themes, at all times. Successful articles can potentially be published online in our advance articles section within 4-6 months of submission. JOURNAL OF HINDU STUDIES 13.3 ARTICLES Commands and the Doctrine of the Ap?rva in Pr?bh?kara M?m??s? -Patrick T Cummins https://doi.org/10.1093/jhs/hiaa017 The Concept of Mind in Hindu Tantrism -Gavin Flood https://doi.org/10.1093/jhs/hiaa020 The Vernacular Pulse of Sanskrit: Metre and More in Songs of the G?tagovinda and Bh?gavata Pur??a -Heidi Pauwels https://doi.org/10.1093/jhs/hiaa018 The End of the P???avas? Year in Disguise -Simon Brodbeck https://doi.org/10.1093/jhs/hiaa019 Bigness, Brilliance, the Buddhi, and the Br?hma?ya Yoked-Up King -Matthew Robertson https://doi.org/10.1093/jhs/hiaa012 BOOK REVIEW Unforgetting Chaitanya: Vaishnavism and Cultures of Devotion in Colonial Bengal. By Varuni Bhatia - Lucian Wong https://doi.org/10.1093/jhs/hiaa008 The Journal of Hindu Studies is a peer-reviewed journal published by Oxford University Press. It is committed to a critical approach to the broad area of research surrounding the study of Hindu and related cultures. The Journal aims to provide a forum for peer-reviewed articles on topics spanning relevant disciplines, regions, and periods of history. For subscriptions, see: http://www.oxfordjournals.org/our_journals/jhs/access_purchase/price_list.html. Recommend the Journal of Hindu Studies to your institution's library: https://academic.oup.com/journals/pages/librarians/library_recommendation_form Best wishes, James Madaio - Dr. James Madaio Fellow, Oriental Institute, Czech Academy of Sciences Fellow, Oxford Centre for Hindu Studies Associate Editor, Journal of Hindu Studies (Oxford University Press) Regional Editor (Indic traditions), Bloomsbury Introductions to World Philosophies -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl Tue Apr 13 12:01:04 2021 From: H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl (Tieken, H.J.H.) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2021 12:01:04 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?q?article_on_Tamil_Ca=E1=B9=85kam_poems?= Message-ID: Dear List members, As I do not know of a journal that might be interested in a short article on the word ka??am in three Ca?kam poems, two of which deal with divination by the v?la? priest, I have placed a pdf on my website, sub "articles" (for the year 2012). The title of the article is "Muruka? in the molucca beans". Kind regards, Herman Herman Tieken Stationsweg 58 2515 BP Den Haag The Netherlands 00 31 (0)70 2208127 website: hermantieken.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl Tue Apr 13 13:14:14 2021 From: H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl (Tieken, H.J.H.) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2021 13:14:14 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?q?article_on_Ca=E1=B9=85kam_poems?= Message-ID: <2ece1e2f22cf4aa2a9de7cee907ffa99@hum.leidenuniv.nl> Jonathan Silk drew my attention to a typo in my last message. The pdf is found in the category "articles", for the year 2021 Herman Tieken Stationsweg 58 2515 BP Den Haag The Netherlands 00 31 (0)70 2208127 website: hermantieken.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From diegoloukota at ucla.edu Tue Apr 13 16:19:31 2021 From: diegoloukota at ucla.edu (DIEGO LOUKOTA SANCLEMENTE) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2021 11:19:31 -0500 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Thank you, Dominik+Hanumat as a musician Message-ID: Dear List, I would like to start by expressing my deep appreciation for Dominik, and all the work that goes into INDOLOGY. Although I will miss the tangle of the old bulletin-style reports, I think this last update has made the functioning of the list much more nimble. Kudos also to Stefan for the technical help. Now heading to actual indological matters, does anyone know about the tradition of Hanumat as a musician? I am interested in the clay figurines of rhesus macaques (Macaca Mulatta) from Yotkan, in the Khotan area. The figurines date to the early part of the first millennium CE and the largest corpus was discovered by Aurel Stein. Since, as far as I have been able to ascertain, the rhesus monkey has never been endemic to the Tarim basin, and also since a version of the *R?m?ya?a* was known in Khotan, I have been toying with the idea that there should be an Indian referent here. The Yotkan monkeys come in two main modes: mithuna/erotic monkeys and musician monkeys playing a variety of instruments (long-neck lutes, traverse flutes, panpipes, harps, drums). The sexual aspect is not surprising given the colorful mating behavior of the rhesus monkey ( https://animaldiversity.org/accounts/Macaca_mulatta/, if you are curious). As for the musical variant, I have found some references to what appear to be Indian folk traditions that make Hanumat a musician, but I have found no textual sources or else archaeological or art-historical material to suggest that the tradition could have had any substance in the early centuries CE. If one Googles "Hanuman with veena" *vel sim.* in Indian languages one finds many modern commercial devotional figurines, but older examples of temple bronzes can be found too ( https://temple.dinamalar.com/Popupimage.aspx?Photo=G_L6_1390.jpg). I have found in semi-scholarly sources from the early 20th century references to two stories (I can give references to anyone interested) that relate Hanuman to music. One involves R?ma teaching music to Hanumat and materializing the seven *sv?ras* as beautiful women. The other involves Hanumat melting a rock through the performance of a particularly fiery *r?ga* in the presence of the sage N?rada. The stories appear in a variety of modern sources in English, but never with a textual reference, so that I suspect that these might be fairly recent folk stories. Still, if anyone is aware of a premodern textual attestation of these stories or else of archeological or art-historical material that points to a connection between Hanumat and music I would be, as usual, exceedingly grateful. *namaskaromi*, Diego -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gokhale.santosh at gmail.com Wed Apr 14 06:18:16 2021 From: gokhale.santosh at gmail.com (Santosh Gokhale) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 11:48:16 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Manas commentary.. Message-ID: Dear Members, I am looking for a soft copy of of a commentary on the ???????????, called ?????? ????????, written by ?????? ????????, also called ?????????? ??????. There is also a supplementary text to this, called ?????????????? ??????????????. Would be grateful if anyone can point me to a PDF of the said texts, or any other literature of ?????????? ??????. Kind regards Santosh Gokhale -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joerg.gengnagel at uni-wuerzburg.de Wed Apr 14 12:38:25 2021 From: joerg.gengnagel at uni-wuerzburg.de (=?UTF-8?Q?J=c3=b6rg_Gengnagel?=) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 14:38:25 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Manas commentary.. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Santosh, nice to see that you are working on? ?????????? ??????! I do have a copy of the "Pa?cakro?a Sudh?" and did quickly check my notes. The printed text gives "iti vidy?ra?yat?rthak?t? pa?cakro?asudh? (Pa?cakro?a Sudh?: 111). Both the publisher of the Pa?cakro?a Sudh? as well as Up?dhy?ya (1994: 800), however, give K??? hajihva Sv?m? as the author of the text, although Vidy?ra?yat?rtha is given as name of his d?k??guru (Up?dhy?ya 1994: 793). In case the "Pa?cakro?a Sudh?" is of interest, I could try to get it scanned. Best Joerg Prof. Dr. J?rg Gengnagel Universit?t W?rzburg Institut f?r Kulturwissenschaften Ost- und S?dasiens Lehrstuhl f?r Indologie Am Hubland D-97074 W?rzburg e-mail: joerg.gengnagel at uni-wuerzburg.de Tel.: +49(0)931/31-88516 Fax: +49(0)931/31-87510 Am 14.04.2021 um 08:18 schrieb Santosh Gokhale: > ? Dear Members, > > I am looking for a soft copy of of a commentary on the ???????????, > called ?????? ????????, written by ?????? ????????, also called > ?????????? ??????. > > There is also a supplementary text to this, called ?????????????? > ??????????????. > > Would be grateful if anyone can point me to a PDF of the said texts, > or any other literature of ?????????? ??????. > > Kind regards > Santosh Gokhale From dchakra at hotmail.de Thu Apr 15 11:45:35 2021 From: dchakra at hotmail.de (Dr. Debabrata Chakrabarti) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 11:45:35 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Introduction portions by Prof. Dilipkumar Biswas! Message-ID: Dear Indology List, I would appreciate if anyone could send me pdf of only the Introduction part of the following books written by the Late Professor Dilipkumar Biswas. The books are following: 1. Bata Krishna Ghosh, Nominal and verbal formations in -p- in Sanskrit, Translated from the French by Dilip Kumar Biswas. Sanskrit Pustak Bhandar, 1982 1. Sakti Or Divine Power, Sudhendukumar Das, Edited by Dilipkumar Biswas, Sree Balaram Prakashani (2nd Edition) Calcutta, 2003 Kindest regards Debabrata Chakrabarti ???This body is like a musical instrument; what you hear depends upon how you play it.??? ??? Anandamayi Ma ???Inside every human being there exists a special heaven, whole and unbroken.??? - Paracelsus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl Thu Apr 15 12:47:31 2021 From: H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl (Tieken, H.J.H.) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 12:47:31 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] another brief article on Tamil poetry Message-ID: <16d7e7f5cd274e8e85ded84c8509421e@hum.leidenuniv.nl> Dear List members, as I have just finished a larger project, I feel I am allowed to amuse myself with smaller things. On my website you may find a pdf of a new version of the article posted a few days ago on the role of the ka??am in divination, and one of a new, equally brief, article titled "On Bees, Dragonflies and Drones". Herman Herman Tieken Stationsweg 58 2515 BP Den Haag The Netherlands 00 31 (0)70 2208127 website: hermantieken.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From krishnaprasadah.g at gmail.com Thu Apr 15 13:02:30 2021 From: krishnaprasadah.g at gmail.com (Krishnaprasad G) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 18:32:30 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?b?U2FwdGHFm2xva8SrcsSBbcSBeWHhuYdhICjgpLg=?= =?utf-8?b?4KSq4KWN4KSk4KS24KWN4KSy4KWL4KSV4KWA4KSw4KS+4KSu4KS+4KSv?= =?utf-8?b?4KSjKSBQREY=?= Message-ID: Dear all I am searching for Sapta?lok?r?m?ya?a (????????????????) as mentioned in Aufrecht?s Catalogus Catalogorum:?by a K?lid?sa. Printed in Grantharatnam?l?. Any help is appreciated. Thank you Krishna Prasad. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ajit.gargeshwari at gmail.com Thu Apr 15 15:39:13 2021 From: ajit.gargeshwari at gmail.com (Ajit Gargeshwari) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 21:09:13 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Introduction portions by Prof. Dilipkumar Biswas! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The Second Book Can be downloaded from this link Sakti or divine power :a historical study based on original sanskrit texts | INDIAN CULTURE Regards Ajit Gargeshwari Web site Visit https://archive.org/details/@sri_gargeshwari_digital_foundation https://archive.org/details/karnatakasamskritauniversity ? ????? ??????? ?? ??????????? ?????? ????? ?? ? ????? ??? ?????? ?????????? ?????? ? ?????? ???????? ???????2.20?? On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 5:17 PM Dr. Debabrata Chakrabarti < dchakra at hotmail.de> wrote: > Dear Indology List, > I would appreciate if anyone could send me pdf of only the Introduction > part of the following books written by the Late Professor Dilipkumar > Biswas. The books are following: > > > > 1. Bata Krishna Ghosh, Nominal and verbal formations in -p- in > Sanskrit, Translated from the French by Dilip Kumar Biswas. Sanskrit Pustak > Bhandar, 1982 > > > 1. > > Sakti Or Divine Power, Sudhendukumar Das, Edited by Dilipkumar Biswas, > Sree Balaram Prakashani (2nd Edition) Calcutta, 2003 > > Kindest regards > Debabrata Chakrabarti > > > > > > > ???This body is like a musical instrument; what you hear depends upon how > you play it.??? ??? Anandamayi Ma > > ???Inside every human being there exists a special heaven, whole and > unbroken.??? - Paracelsus > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From palaniappa at aol.com Fri Apr 16 23:38:39 2021 From: palaniappa at aol.com (Sudalaimuthu Palaniappan) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2021 18:38:39 -0500 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?q?S=C5=ABta=27s_real_social_status?= References: <3A5B8D84-ECE8-4089-B3CD-483DDC6FC44E.ref@aol.com> Message-ID: <3A5B8D84-ECE8-4089-B3CD-483DDC6FC44E@aol.com> Dear Indologists, I just read the paper ?? Of ??dras, S?tas, and ?lokas: Why is the Mah?bh?rata Preeminently in the Anu??ubh Metre?? by Arvind Sharma (Indo-Iranian Journal 43: 225-278, 2000). That raised a question regarding the real social status of S?tas, the bards, in the early Indo-Aryan society. How can one rely on texts like the Dharma??stras or the Mah?bh?rata, which might not be without a vested interest in promoting their own social agenda? If there are early epigraphic data that deal with actual ground realities, that might be helpful. But, given the date of the advent of writing in north India, we may not have that possibility. Has anybody analyzed the real social status of the bards in the early Iranian society? Thanks in advance Regards, Palaniappan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Purna said, "That person was insane. There's no other reason." Shurangama Sutra v4 pt1 (sfsu.edu) Has anybody encountered this story in other Indian or Chinese sources? Thank you in advance! Best regards, Dimitry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There are almost two hundred mentions of the story in native Chinese sources, all ultimately derived from this story in the apocryphal ??ra?gama s?tra. The story itself seems to draw on recognizable elements that one does find in Indian texts ? the image of cutting off the head of a headless person in MMK 7; the common analogy of m?na (conceit) as looking at one?s face in a mirror as a caution against attachment to the illusory nature of self-view, mistaking the reflected image (pratibimba) for the reality (bimba) found in Abhidharma and Yogacara texts, and so on. The ??ra?gama uses the story to argue that non-awakening has no cause or basis, conflating the baselessness of misconceptions and delusions with something non-causal, and thus defending Awakening of Faith by treating non-awakening as unreal and non-existent because it lacks a cause ? a somewhat confused argument that one would not expect to find in Indian sources. In East Asia the story nonetheless resonated, and is found echoed in many forms, as, for instance Linji (Jp, Rinzai) telling his students the following, while giving the story a ?happy? ending (Irmgard Shloegl?s translation): ? Venerable ones, time is precious! Yet you run about hither and thither, studying Zen, learning the Way, chasing names and phrases, seeking the Buddha and patriarchs and good teachers, full of arbitrary judgments. Do not commit such errors. Followers of the Way, you each have a father and mother. So what more do you seek? Turn round and look into yourselves. An old master said: ?Yajnadatta thought he had lost his head. When he ceased from his frantic looking for it, he had nothing further to seek.? ?Followers of the Way, if you know that fundamentally there is nothing to seek, you have settled your affairs. But because you have little faith, you run about agitatedly, seeking your head which you think you have lost. You cannot stop yourselves. ? best wishes, Dan > On Apr 18, 2021, at 7:35 AM, Dimitry Shevchenko via INDOLOGY wrote: > > Dear all, > > I have been asked on the possible source of a simile of Yaj?adatta falling in love with his own reflection in a mirror and going mad, mentioned in the ??ra?gama S?tra (???????), a Chinese Buddhist text, probably composed in Tang China, during the early eighth century CE: > "Did you hear about Yajnadatta from Shravasti who on impulse one morning held a mirror to his face and fell in love with the head in the mirror? He gazed at the eyes and eyebrows but got angry because he could not see his own face. He decided he must be a mountain or river sprite, lost control, and ran madly about. What do you think? Why did this person set out on a mad cause for no reason?" > Purna said, "That person was insane. There's no other reason." > Shurangama Sutra v4 pt1 (sfsu.edu) > Has anybody encountered this story in other Indian or Chinese sources? > > Thank you in advance! > Best regards, > Dimitry > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mkapstei at uchicago.edu Mon Apr 19 08:37:28 2021 From: mkapstei at uchicago.edu (Matthew Kapstein) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 08:37:28 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?q?The_story_of_Yaj=C3=B1adatta_and_the_mirror?= =?utf-8?b?IGluIHRoZSDFmsWrcmHhuYVnYW1hIFPFq3RyYQ==?= In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Dear Dmitry The Stith Thompson Motif Index of Folk Literature includes several references to the theme of falling in love with a reflection, best known in the west through the story of Narcissus. There are apparently Indian versions, though the reflection seems of be of the beloved, not of oneself. In any case, Thompson gives as reference Thompson and Balys, The Oral Tales of India (1976). You may wish to look there. gook luck with this interesting search! Matthew Matthew Kapstein Directeur d'?tudes, ?m?rite Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, Paris Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, The University of Chicago ________________________________ From: INDOLOGY on behalf of Dan Lusthaus via INDOLOGY Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 4:37 PM To: Dimitry Shevchenko Cc: Indology Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] The story of Yaj?adatta and the mirror in the ??ra?gama S?tra Dear Dimitry, I would be surprised if this story appears in any Indian sources not only because this is the only Chinese translation of an Indian text in which it appears, but because it is used in a section of the ??ra?gama trying to defend a certain interpretation of the Awakening of Faith?s theories concerning how non-awakening could arise from original awakening ? and the Awakening of Faith is a well known Chinese apocryphal text pretending to be authored by A?vagho?a and supposedly translated by Param?rtha ? neither of which attributions are true. There are almost two hundred mentions of the story in native Chinese sources, all ultimately derived from this story in the apocryphal ??ra?gama s?tra. The story itself seems to draw on recognizable elements that one does find in Indian texts ? the image of cutting off the head of a headless person in MMK 7; the common analogy of m?na (conceit) as looking at one?s face in a mirror as a caution against attachment to the illusory nature of self-view, mistaking the reflected image (pratibimba) for the reality (bimba) found in Abhidharma and Yogacara texts, and so on. The ??ra?gama uses the story to argue that non-awakening has no cause or basis, conflating the baselessness of misconceptions and delusions with something non-causal, and thus defending Awakening of Faith by treating non-awakening as unreal and non-existent because it lacks a cause ? a somewhat confused argument that one would not expect to find in Indian sources. In East Asia the story nonetheless resonated, and is found echoed in many forms, as, for instance Linji (Jp, Rinzai) telling his students the following, while giving the story a ?happy? ending (Irmgard Shloegl?s translation): ? Venerable ones, time is precious! Yet you run about hither and thither, studying Zen, learning the Way, chasing names and phrases, seeking the Buddha and patriarchs and good teachers, full of arbitrary judgments. Do not commit such errors. Followers of the Way, you each have a father and mother. So what more do you seek? Turn round and look into yourselves. An old master said: ?Yajnadatta thought he had lost his head. When he ceased from his frantic looking for it, he had nothing further to seek.? ?Followers of the Way, if you know that fundamentally there is nothing to seek, you have settled your affairs. But because you have little faith, you run about agitatedly, seeking your head which you think you have lost. You cannot stop yourselves. ? best wishes, Dan On Apr 18, 2021, at 7:35 AM, Dimitry Shevchenko via INDOLOGY > wrote: Dear all, I have been asked on the possible source of a simile of Yaj?adatta falling in love with his own reflection in a mirror and going mad, mentioned in the ??ra?gama S?tra (???????), a Chinese Buddhist text, probably composed in Tang China, during the early eighth century CE: "Did you hear about Yajnadatta from Shravasti who on impulse one morning held a mirror to his face and fell in love with the head in the mirror? He gazed at the eyes and eyebrows but got angry because he could not see his own face. He decided he must be a mountain or river sprite, lost control, and ran madly about. What do you think? Why did this person set out on a mad cause for no reason?" Purna said, "That person was insane. There's no other reason." Shurangama Sutra v4 pt1 (sfsu.edu) Has anybody encountered this story in other Indian or Chinese sources? Thank you in advance! Best regards, Dimitry _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kauzeya at gmail.com Mon Apr 19 08:43:20 2021 From: kauzeya at gmail.com (Jonathan Silk) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 10:43:20 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Swat murals--is there more information available? Message-ID: Dear Friends I noticed the following link on Dan Martin's wonderful Tibeto-logic blog: https://www.dawn.com/news/amp/1606050 When i googled around, what I found is that (actual reporters being extinct apparently) everything seems to have evidently simply copied a press release, so we find the same thing in virtually the same words, but so far i have not been able to learn more about what seems to be an intriguing find: Kushan era murals from Swat. Does anyone know more? Jonathan -- J. Silk Leiden University Leiden University Institute for Area Studies, LIAS Matthias de Vrieshof 3, Room 0.05b 2311 BZ Leiden The Netherlands website: www.OpenPhilology.eu copies of my publications may be found at https://leidenuniv.academia.edu/JASilk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dshevchenko at unm.edu Mon Apr 19 08:46:07 2021 From: dshevchenko at unm.edu (Dimitry Shevchenko) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 08:46:07 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?q?The_story_of_Yaj=C3=B1adatta_and_the_mirror?= =?utf-8?b?IGluIHRoZSDFmsWrcmHhuYVnYW1hIFPFq3RyYQ==?= In-Reply-To: References: , , Message-ID: Dear Matthew, Thank you so much for this reference! I'll look it up. Best wishes, Dimitry ________________________________ From: Matthew Kapstein Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 8:37 AM To: Dimitry Shevchenko ; Dan Lusthaus Cc: Indology Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] The story of Yaj?adatta and the mirror in the ??ra?gama S?tra [EXTERNAL] Dear Dmitry The Stith Thompson Motif Index of Folk Literature includes several references to the theme of falling in love with a reflection, best known in the west through the story of Narcissus. There are apparently Indian versions, though the reflection seems of be of the beloved, not of oneself. In any case, Thompson gives as reference Thompson and Balys, The Oral Tales of India (1976). You may wish to look there. gook luck with this interesting search! Matthew Matthew Kapstein Directeur d'?tudes, ?m?rite Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, Paris Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, The University of Chicago ________________________________ From: INDOLOGY on behalf of Dan Lusthaus via INDOLOGY Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 4:37 PM To: Dimitry Shevchenko Cc: Indology Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] The story of Yaj?adatta and the mirror in the ??ra?gama S?tra Dear Dimitry, I would be surprised if this story appears in any Indian sources not only because this is the only Chinese translation of an Indian text in which it appears, but because it is used in a section of the ??ra?gama trying to defend a certain interpretation of the Awakening of Faith?s theories concerning how non-awakening could arise from original awakening ? and the Awakening of Faith is a well known Chinese apocryphal text pretending to be authored by A?vagho?a and supposedly translated by Param?rtha ? neither of which attributions are true. There are almost two hundred mentions of the story in native Chinese sources, all ultimately derived from this story in the apocryphal ??ra?gama s?tra. The story itself seems to draw on recognizable elements that one does find in Indian texts ? the image of cutting off the head of a headless person in MMK 7; the common analogy of m?na (conceit) as looking at one?s face in a mirror as a caution against attachment to the illusory nature of self-view, mistaking the reflected image (pratibimba) for the reality (bimba) found in Abhidharma and Yogacara texts, and so on. The ??ra?gama uses the story to argue that non-awakening has no cause or basis, conflating the baselessness of misconceptions and delusions with something non-causal, and thus defending Awakening of Faith by treating non-awakening as unreal and non-existent because it lacks a cause ? a somewhat confused argument that one would not expect to find in Indian sources. In East Asia the story nonetheless resonated, and is found echoed in many forms, as, for instance Linji (Jp, Rinzai) telling his students the following, while giving the story a ?happy? ending (Irmgard Shloegl?s translation): ? Venerable ones, time is precious! Yet you run about hither and thither, studying Zen, learning the Way, chasing names and phrases, seeking the Buddha and patriarchs and good teachers, full of arbitrary judgments. Do not commit such errors. Followers of the Way, you each have a father and mother. So what more do you seek? Turn round and look into yourselves. An old master said: ?Yajnadatta thought he had lost his head. When he ceased from his frantic looking for it, he had nothing further to seek.? ?Followers of the Way, if you know that fundamentally there is nothing to seek, you have settled your affairs. But because you have little faith, you run about agitatedly, seeking your head which you think you have lost. You cannot stop yourselves. ? best wishes, Dan On Apr 18, 2021, at 7:35 AM, Dimitry Shevchenko via INDOLOGY > wrote: Dear all, I have been asked on the possible source of a simile of Yaj?adatta falling in love with his own reflection in a mirror and going mad, mentioned in the ??ra?gama S?tra (???????), a Chinese Buddhist text, probably composed in Tang China, during the early eighth century CE: "Did you hear about Yajnadatta from Shravasti who on impulse one morning held a mirror to his face and fell in love with the head in the mirror? He gazed at the eyes and eyebrows but got angry because he could not see his own face. He decided he must be a mountain or river sprite, lost control, and ran madly about. What do you think? Why did this person set out on a mad cause for no reason?" Purna said, "That person was insane. There's no other reason." Shurangama Sutra v4 pt1 (sfsu.edu) Has anybody encountered this story in other Indian or Chinese sources? Thank you in advance! 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Robert On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 1:10 PM Robert Leach wrote: > Dear list members, > > I'm writing in the hope that someone has and is willing to share a pdf of > Myles Dillon's "Celt and Hindu", first published in the first volume of the > Vishveshvaranand Indological Journal (1963). > > Many thanks! > > Robert > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From finnian_moore-gerety at brown.edu Mon Apr 19 22:16:32 2021 From: finnian_moore-gerety at brown.edu (Finnian Moore-Gerety) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 18:16:32 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Sensing the Sacred: new podcast episodes Message-ID: <67BF6CF4-CCE1-435D-913C-72C163270718@brown.edu> Dear colleagues? I?d like to draw your attention to three new episodes of Sensing the Sacred , a podcast on South Asian Religions from the Center for Contemporary South Asia at Brown University. Episode 2: Islam and Political Imagination in Early Modern Afghanistan with Tanvir Ahmed (Brown University) Episode 3: Hindu Street Shrines with Borayin Larios (University of Vienna) Episode 4: Mantras, Healing and Tantra in Jainism with Ellen Gough (Emory University) I hope you enjoy these interdisciplinary conversations. We?ll be releasing more episodes in May. Yours, Finnian Finnian M.M. Gerety Visiting Assistant Professor of Religious Studies [Affiliated] Faculty of Contemplative Studies and Center for Contemporary South Asia Brown University www.finniangerety.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From McComas.Taylor at anu.edu.au Mon Apr 19 23:12:19 2021 From: McComas.Taylor at anu.edu.au (McComas Taylor) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 23:12:19 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] World Sanskrit Conference 2022 - announcement on 1 July Message-ID: Dear Friends, I am writing to you on behalf of the National Organising Committee of the World Sanskrit Conference 2022. We hope that you, your family and your circle of friends and colleagues are in good health. We would like to express our deep concern for those of you especially in India, North America, Europe and wherever else the pandemic has hit hardest. So many colleagues have kindly expressed concern for the future of the World Sanskrit Conference 2022. We truly appreciate the messages of collegiality and support that we have received from all over the world. As the rescheduled WSC is now only nine months away, colleagues are rightfully inquiring about the event, program, airfares, accommodation and so on. The world is fraught with uncertainties. COVID numbers have just spiked again in India, and the rollout of vaccines is patchy in other jurisdictions. The long-term efficacy of the various vaccines is not yet understood. The status of international travel, ?vaccine passports? and quarantine in six or nine months? time is unknowable. ????? ???? ??????? ? In view of the unstable international situation, the organising committee, with the approval of our parent body, the International Association for Sanskrit Studies, has resolved to defer a decision on the future of the WSC2022 until 1 July 2021. By that date we trust that our path forward will be clearer. Of course we all hope sincerely that the situation will allow a face-to-face conference to proceed as planned, but if that is not the case, then we must consider other options, including further postponement or moving the conference online in some form. I would like to thank all those colleagues who have submitted abstracts or given generously of their time in coordinating sections and vetting papers. Thank you for contributing your skills and expertise and thank you especially for your patience at this difficult time. Yours sincerely, McComas Taylor On behalf of the National Organising Committee, WSC2022 [cid:e0edf69b-74f8-4aa3-b824-1a8b465e2065] McComas Taylor Associate Professor Reader in Sanskrit College of Asia and the Pacific The Australian National University WSC Website| McC Website Zoom: https://tinyurl.com/p01tig8k -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Girish K.Jha On Tue, 20 Apr 2021, 11:43 Girish Jha, wrote: > Dear colleagues, > I would be indeed grateful ifL someone could give me the Link to the said > books for free download. > Thanks in advance, > Regards, > Girish K.Jha > Professor(Retd) > Dept of Sanskrit > Patna University > Residence: Kolkata > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be Tue Apr 20 10:01:40 2021 From: christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be (Christophe Vielle) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 12:01:40 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] In search of an article in the Journal of the 'U.P.' Historical Society Message-ID: Dear List, I am searching for a copy of short article by V. Raghavan issued in "Journ. of the U. P. Hist. Soc. XVIII i-ii 135-147", that is in the vol. 18(-20), 1945, pp. 135-147 of the "Journal of the United Provinces Historical Society" https://books.google.com/books?id=WgJDAAAAYAAJ https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/000522476 (cf. https://books.google.com/books?redir_esc=y&hl=fr&id=WgJDAAAAYAAJ&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=Raghavan ? this is an exemplar from the University of Virginia) On this Journal entitled "Journal of the United Provinces Historical Society" until the vol. 21, 1949, and then, from vol. 22, 1950, "Journal of the Uttar Pradesh Historical Society" see https://www.ideasofindia.org/project/journal-of-the-united-provinces-historical-society/ https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/102630084 + vol. 9/1 1936 http://www.southasiaarchive.com/Content/sarf.120368/229530 vol. 11/2 1938 http://www.southasiaarchive.com/Content/sarf.120368 vol. 16/2, 1943 https://archive.org/details/dli.ernet.528770 https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.507556 A new/second series of the "Journal of the U. P. Historical Society" started in 1953: https://www.worldcat.org/title/journal-of-the-uttar-pradesh-historical-society/oclc/18896327 vol. 1, 1953 https://indianculture.gov.in/journal-historical-society-4 https://archive.org/details/dli.ministry.15531 https://archive.org/details/in.gov.ignca.45370 vol. 2, 1954 https://indianculture.gov.in/journal-historical-society-5 https://archive.org/details/dli.ministry.15532 vol. 3, 1955 https://indianculture.gov.in/journal-historical-society-6 https://archive.org/details/dli.ministry.15533 vol. 4, 1956 https://archive.org/details/dli.ministry.15527 vol. 5, 1957 https://indianculture.gov.in/journal-historical-society-1 https://archive.org/details/dli.ministry.15528 vol. 6, 1958 https://archive.org/details/dli.ministry.15534 vol. 7, 1959 https://indianculture.gov.in/journal-historical-society-2 https://archive.org/details/in.gov.ignca.45378 https://archive.org/details/dli.ministry.15529 vol. 8, 1960 https://indianculture.gov.in/journal-historical-society-3 https://archive.org/details/in.gov.ignca.45379 https://archive.org/details/dli.ministry.15530 https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/008746961 Bw ??????????????????? 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Murugaiyan > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology From mkapstei at uchicago.edu Tue Apr 20 13:38:59 2021 From: mkapstei at uchicago.edu (Matthew Kapstein) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 13:38:59 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] an Austrian mystery Message-ID: Dear friends, Ole Holten Pind's work on Dign?ga is listed on the website of the Press of the Austrian Academy: https://www.oeaw.ac.at/en/ikga/publikationen/reihen/beitraege-zur-kultur-und-geistesgeschichte-asiens-bkga/dignagas-philosophy-of-language However, when one tries to "order online" the link does not work. And to search from the Academy's homepage https://verlag.oeaw.ac.at/ is similarly fruitless. Does anyone have any ideas about whether the book really exists and, if so, how it can be ordered? thanks in advance, Matthew Matthew Kapstein Directeur d'?tudes, ?m?rite Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, Paris Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, The University of Chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pma at rdorte.org Tue Apr 20 14:09:41 2021 From: pma at rdorte.org (Patrick McAllister) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 16:09:41 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] an Austrian mystery In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <87tuo1ujx6.fsf@pmatoe> On Tue, Apr 20 2021, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear friends, > > Ole Holten Pind's work on Dign?ga is listed on the website of the > Press of the Austrian Academy: > https://www.oeaw.ac.at/en/ikga/publikationen/reihen/beitraege-zur-kultur-und-geistesgeschichte-asiens-bkga/dignagas-philosophy-of-language > > However, when one tries to "order online" the link does not work. And > to search from the Academy's homepage https://verlag.oeaw.ac.at/ is > similarly fruitless. > > Does anyone have any ideas about whether the book really exists and, >if so, how it can be ordered? The book certainly exists! A (currently) working URL for it is this: https://www.austriaca.at/7865-1?frames=yes You should be able to download at least parts of it there. Unfortunately, the link ?Order Print Edition? isn?t working there either. Perhaps it would be best to contact the publisher directly, at mailto:verlag at oeaw.ac.at ; I?m sure they will be happy to provide a copy. With best wishes, -- Patrick McAllister long-term email: pma at rdorte.org From mkapstei at uchicago.edu Tue Apr 20 14:10:43 2021 From: mkapstei at uchicago.edu (Matthew Kapstein) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 14:10:43 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] an Austrian mystery In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks to all for your responses. The book indeed exists and is available from the publisher only as an ebook. Some hard copies do seem still to be floating around Amazon and other third-party distributors. thanks again for your rapid and plentiful replies, Matthew Matthew Kapstein Directeur d'?tudes, ?m?rite Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, Paris Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, The University of Chicago ________________________________ From: INDOLOGY on behalf of Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 8:38 AM To: indology at list.indology.info Subject: [INDOLOGY] an Austrian mystery Dear friends, Ole Holten Pind's work on Dign?ga is listed on the website of the Press of the Austrian Academy: https://www.oeaw.ac.at/en/ikga/publikationen/reihen/beitraege-zur-kultur-und-geistesgeschichte-asiens-bkga/dignagas-philosophy-of-language However, when one tries to "order online" the link does not work. And to search from the Academy's homepage https://verlag.oeaw.ac.at/ is similarly fruitless. Does anyone have any ideas about whether the book really exists and, if so, how it can be ordered? thanks in advance, Matthew Matthew Kapstein Directeur d'?tudes, ?m?rite Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, Paris Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, The University of Chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From LubinT at wlu.edu Tue Apr 20 15:19:22 2021 From: LubinT at wlu.edu (Lubin, Tim) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 15:19:22 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] an Austrian mystery Message-ID: Dear Matthew, From this page, the e-book appears to be available in separate pieces at least: http://austriaca.at/7865-1inhalt?frames=yes Best, Tim _________________________________________ Timothy Lubin Jessie Ball duPont Professor of Religion and Adjunct Professor of Law 204 Tucker Hall Washington and Lee University Lexington, Virginia 24450 American Council of Learned Societies fellow, 2020?21 National Endowment for the Humanities fellow, 2020?21 https://lubin.academic.wlu.edu/ http://wlu.academia.edu/TimothyLubin https://ssrn.com/author=930949 https://dharma.hypotheses.org/people/lubin-timothy From: INDOLOGY on behalf of INDOLOGY Reply-To: "mkapstei at UCHICAGO.EDU" Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 at 10:11 AM To: INDOLOGY , "mkapstei at UCHICAGO.EDU" Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] an Austrian mystery Thanks to all for your responses. The book indeed exists and is available from the publisher only as an ebook. Some hard copies do seem still to be floating around Amazon and other third-party distributors. thanks again for your rapid and plentiful replies, Matthew Matthew Kapstein Directeur d'?tudes, ?m?rite Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, Paris Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, The University of Chicago ________________________________ From: INDOLOGY on behalf of Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 8:38 AM To: indology at list.indology.info Subject: [INDOLOGY] an Austrian mystery Dear friends, Ole Holten Pind's work on Dign?ga is listed on the website of the Press of the Austrian Academy: https://www.oeaw.ac.at/en/ikga/publikationen/reihen/beitraege-zur-kultur-und-geistesgeschichte-asiens-bkga/dignagas-philosophy-of-language However, when one tries to "order online" the link does not work. And to search from the Academy's homepage https://verlag.oeaw.ac.at/ is similarly fruitless. Does anyone have any ideas about whether the book really exists and, if so, how it can be ordered? thanks in advance, Matthew Matthew Kapstein Directeur d'?tudes, ?m?rite Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, Paris Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, The University of Chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From LubinT at wlu.edu Tue Apr 20 15:23:03 2021 From: LubinT at wlu.edu (Lubin, Tim) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 15:23:03 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] an Austrian mystery In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ah, sorry, I see that most of those files require a log-in process. TL From: INDOLOGY on behalf of "Lubin, Tim" Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 at 11:19 AM To: "mkapstei at UCHICAGO.EDU" , INDOLOGY Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] an Austrian mystery Dear Matthew, From this page, the e-book appears to be available in separate pieces at least: http://austriaca.at/7865-1inhalt?frames=yes Best, Tim _________________________________________ Timothy Lubin Jessie Ball duPont Professor of Religion and Adjunct Professor of Law 204 Tucker Hall Washington and Lee University Lexington, Virginia 24450 American Council of Learned Societies fellow, 2020?21 National Endowment for the Humanities fellow, 2020?21 https://lubin.academic.wlu.edu/ http://wlu.academia.edu/TimothyLubin https://ssrn.com/author=930949 https://dharma.hypotheses.org/people/lubin-timothy From: INDOLOGY on behalf of INDOLOGY Reply-To: "mkapstei at UCHICAGO.EDU" Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 at 10:11 AM To: INDOLOGY , "mkapstei at UCHICAGO.EDU" Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] an Austrian mystery Thanks to all for your responses. The book indeed exists and is available from the publisher only as an ebook. Some hard copies do seem still to be floating around Amazon and other third-party distributors. thanks again for your rapid and plentiful replies, Matthew Matthew Kapstein Directeur d'?tudes, ?m?rite Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, Paris Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, The University of Chicago ________________________________ From: INDOLOGY on behalf of Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 8:38 AM To: indology at list.indology.info Subject: [INDOLOGY] an Austrian mystery Dear friends, Ole Holten Pind's work on Dign?ga is listed on the website of the Press of the Austrian Academy: https://www.oeaw.ac.at/en/ikga/publikationen/reihen/beitraege-zur-kultur-und-geistesgeschichte-asiens-bkga/dignagas-philosophy-of-language However, when one tries to "order online" the link does not work. And to search from the Academy's homepage https://verlag.oeaw.ac.at/ is similarly fruitless. Does anyone have any ideas about whether the book really exists and, if so, how it can be ordered? thanks in advance, Matthew Matthew Kapstein Directeur d'?tudes, ?m?rite Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, Paris Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, The University of Chicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Episode 2: Islam and Political Imagination in Early Modern Afghanistan with Tanvir Ahmed (Brown University)Episode 3: Hindu Street Shrines with Borayin Larios (University of Vienna)Episode 4: Mantras, Healing and Tantra in Jainism with Ellen Gough (Emory University) I hope you enjoy these interdisciplinary conversations. We?ll be releasing more episodes in May.? Yours,Finnian Finnian M.M. GeretyVisiting Assistant Professor of Religious Studies[Affiliated] Faculty of Contemplative?Studies and Center for Contemporary?South AsiaBrown Universitywww.finniangerety.com _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Would anybody be able to share a pdf? > > Thanks in advance and all the best, > Elisa > > -- > > University of Zurich > Dr. Elisa Ganser > Research Fellow > Institute of Asian and Oriental Studies > Department of Indian Studies > R?mistrasse 59 > CH-8001 Zurich > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jpo at austin.utexas.edu Thu Apr 22 18:35:49 2021 From: jpo at austin.utexas.edu (Olivelle, J P) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 18:35:49 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] News Message-ID: <98137975-BA3E-43E3-B0FA-F1572CE576CD@austin.utexas.edu> Congratulations to Richard Salomon, who was just elected to the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. A richly deserved recognition. Patrick From rrocher at sas.upenn.edu Thu Apr 22 19:15:33 2021 From: rrocher at sas.upenn.edu (Rosane Rocher) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:15:33 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] News In-Reply-To: <98137975-BA3E-43E3-B0FA-F1572CE576CD@austin.utexas.edu> References: <98137975-BA3E-43E3-B0FA-F1572CE576CD@austin.utexas.edu> Message-ID: <7f270bf0-83de-31b9-7812-6b944c1d1054@sas.upenn.edu> Congratulations, Rich! This is indeed well deserved. Rosane On 4/22/21 2:35 PM, Olivelle, J P via INDOLOGY wrote: > Congratulations to Richard Salomon, who was just elected to the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. A richly deserved recognition. > > Patrick > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology From a.murugaiyan at wanadoo.fr Thu Apr 22 19:26:44 2021 From: a.murugaiyan at wanadoo.fr (a.murugaiyan) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 21:26:44 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] News In-Reply-To: <98137975-BA3E-43E3-B0FA-F1572CE576CD@austin.utexas.edu> References: <98137975-BA3E-43E3-B0FA-F1572CE576CD@austin.utexas.edu> Message-ID: <4c07760a-2b7e-d815-9777-9876a0424f54@wanadoo.fr> Congratulations to Professor Richard Salomon, this is really great. A. Murugaiyan Le 22/04/2021 ? 20:35, Olivelle, J P via INDOLOGY a ?crit?: > Congratulations to Richard Salomon, who was just elected to the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. A richly deserved recognition. > > Patrick > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology From hhhock at illinois.edu Thu Apr 22 19:33:59 2021 From: hhhock at illinois.edu (Hock, Hans Henrich) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 19:33:59 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] News In-Reply-To: <98137975-BA3E-43E3-B0FA-F1572CE576CD@austin.utexas.edu> References: <98137975-BA3E-43E3-B0FA-F1572CE576CD@austin.utexas.edu> Message-ID: <362FDA70-CFBA-444E-B614-A72DF4CA2467@illinois.edu> Wonderful news. Well deserved Hans Henrich > On Apr 22, 2021, at 13:36, Olivelle, J P via INDOLOGY wrote: > > ?Congratulations to Richard Salomon, who was just elected to the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. A richly deserved recognition. > > Patrick > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology__;!!DZ3fjg!uaeafN_gkHHpuL7z-NTZTQvI27zgNkfkh7QtVM_KdVlzAt5JlhVA2bpdSmO7ZvB-Sg$ From brendan.gillon at mcgill.ca Thu Apr 22 20:05:04 2021 From: brendan.gillon at mcgill.ca (Brendan S. Gillon, Prof.) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 20:05:04 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] News In-Reply-To: <4c07760a-2b7e-d815-9777-9876a0424f54@wanadoo.fr> References: <98137975-BA3E-43E3-B0FA-F1572CE576CD@austin.utexas.edu> <4c07760a-2b7e-d815-9777-9876a0424f54@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <62880497-bec8-5dad-fd67-1bd8cda31273@mcgill.ca> Well deserved. Congratulations. Brendan On 4/22/21 3:26 PM, a.murugaiyan wrote: > Congratulations to Professor Richard Salomon, this is really great. > A. Murugaiyan > > Le 22/04/2021 ? 20:35, Olivelle, J P via INDOLOGY a ?crit?: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> In camera >> Student awards >> Leadership and citizenship nominations >> Cremona >> >> >> Update from MS >> >> >> >> Congratulations to Richard Salomon, who was just elected to the >> American Academy of Arts and Sciences. A richly deserved recognition. >> >> Patrick >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology -- Brendan S. Gillon email: brendan.gillon at mcgill.ca Department of Linguistics McGill University tel.: 001 514 398 4868 1085, Avenue Docteur-Penfield Montreal, Quebec fax.: 001 514 398 7088 H3A 1A7 CANADA webpage: http://webpages.mcgill.ca/staff/group3/bgillo/web/ From jknutson at hawaii.edu Thu Apr 22 20:05:16 2021 From: jknutson at hawaii.edu (Jesse Knutson) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 10:05:16 -1000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] News In-Reply-To: <98137975-BA3E-43E3-B0FA-F1572CE576CD@austin.utexas.edu> References: <98137975-BA3E-43E3-B0FA-F1572CE576CD@austin.utexas.edu> Message-ID: Congratulations Richard! Indeed richly deserved. On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 8:36 AM Olivelle, J P via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Congratulations to Richard Salomon, who was just elected to the American > Academy of Arts and Sciences. A richly deserved recognition. > > Patrick > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -- ------------------------------------------------------- Jesse Ross Knutson PhD Associate Professor of Sanskrit Language and Literature & Chair Department of Indo-Pacific Languages and Literatures University of Hawai'i, M?noa 461 Spalding It is creative apperception more than anything else that makes the individual feel that life is worth living. Contrasted with this is a relationship to external reality which is one of compliance, the world and its details being recognized but only as something to be fitted in with or demanding adaptation. Compliance carries with it a sense of futility for the individual and is associated with the idea that nothing matters and that life is not worth living. 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A richly deserved recognition. Patrick _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From diegoloukota at ucla.edu Thu Apr 22 21:32:46 2021 From: diegoloukota at ucla.edu (DIEGO LOUKOTA SANCLEMENTE) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 16:32:46 -0500 Subject: [INDOLOGY] News In-Reply-To: References: <98137975-BA3E-43E3-B0FA-F1572CE576CD@austin.utexas.edu> Message-ID: *bahu?ruta? caitrakatha? pa??ito 'nalaso '?a?ha? |ad?no 'krodhano 'lubdhas tasm?t sarvatra p?jita? ||* Hearty congratulations to Prof. Salomon on his election! *namaskaromi*, Diego On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 3:35 PM Greg Bailey via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Well deserved. Congratulations, Richard. > > Greg Bailey > > ------------------------------ > *From:* INDOLOGY on behalf of > Olivelle, J P via INDOLOGY > *Sent:* Friday, April 23, 2021 4:35 AM > *To:* Indology Mailing List > *Subject:* [INDOLOGY] News > > Congratulations to Richard Salomon, who was just elected to the American > Academy of Arts and Sciences. A richly deserved recognition. > > Patrick > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Greg Bailey ________________________________ From: INDOLOGY on behalf of Olivelle, J P via INDOLOGY Sent: Friday, April 23, 2021 4:35 AM To: Indology Mailing List Subject: [INDOLOGY] News Congratulations to Richard Salomon, who was just elected to the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. A richly deserved recognition. Patrick _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From SamuelG at cardiff.ac.uk Fri Apr 23 00:35:05 2021 From: SamuelG at cardiff.ac.uk (Geoffrey Samuel) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2021 00:35:05 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] News In-Reply-To: References: <98137975-BA3E-43E3-B0FA-F1572CE576CD@austin.utexas.edu> Message-ID: Congratulations, Richard, that?s splendid news. Geoffrey On 23 Apr 2021, at 06:35, Greg Bailey via INDOLOGY > wrote: Well deserved. Congratulations, Richard. 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Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 11:36 AM Olivelle, J P via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Congratulations to Richard Salomon, who was just elected to the American > Academy of Arts and Sciences. A richly deserved recognition. > > Patrick > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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A richly deserved recognition. > > Patrick > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emstern1948 at gmail.com Fri Apr 23 12:30:17 2021 From: emstern1948 at gmail.com (Elliot Stern) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2021 08:30:17 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] News In-Reply-To: References: <98137975-BA3E-43E3-B0FA-F1572CE576CD@austin.utexas.edu> Message-ID: Congratulations, Ridh. Long overdue recognition. Elliot M. Stern 552 South 48th Street Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029 emstern1948 at gmail.com 267-240-8418 >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 12:06 AM Olivelle, J P via INDOLOGY > wrote: >> Congratulations to Richard Salomon, who was just elected to the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. A richly deserved recognition. >> >> Patrick >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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A richly deserved recognition. > > Patrick > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology From j.jurewicz at uw.edu.pl Fri Apr 23 15:32:59 2021 From: j.jurewicz at uw.edu.pl (Joanna Jurewicz) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2021 17:32:59 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?q?New_Edition_of_my_book_on_Brahm=C4=81?= In-Reply-To: References: <98137975-BA3E-43E3-B0FA-F1572CE576CD@austin.utexas.edu> Message-ID: Wonderful news! --- Prof. dr hab. Joanna Jurewicz Katedra Azji Po?udniowej /Chair of South Asia Studies Wydzia? Orientalistyczny / Faculty of Oriental Studies Uniwersytet Warszawski /University of Warsaw ul. Krakowskie Przedmie?cie 26/28 00-927 Warszawa , Poland Department of Linguistics and Modern Languages College of Human Sciences UNISA Pretoria, RSA Member of Academia Europaea https://uw.academia.edu/JoannaJurewicz pt., 23 kwi 2021 o 00:35 Greg Bailey via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> napisa?(a): > Dear List, > > I am pleased to announce the publication of the second edition of my book, > The Mythology of Brahm?. It was first published in 1983 and has been > substantially revised in the light of new scholarship. It has been > published by Motilal Banarsidass in New Delhi, who can be contacted at > mlbdnab at gmail.com > > Cheers, > > Greg Bailey > ------------------------------ > *From:* INDOLOGY on behalf of Greg > Bailey via INDOLOGY > *Sent:* Friday, April 23, 2021 6:35 AM > *To:* Indology Mailing List ; Olivelle, J P < > jpo at austin.utexas.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] News > > Well deserved. Congratulations, Richard. > > Greg Bailey > > ------------------------------ > *From:* INDOLOGY on behalf of > Olivelle, J P via INDOLOGY > *Sent:* Friday, April 23, 2021 4:35 AM > *To:* Indology Mailing List > *Subject:* [INDOLOGY] News > > Congratulations to Richard Salomon, who was just elected to the American > Academy of Arts and Sciences. A richly deserved recognition. > > Patrick > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Joanna Jurewicz Katedra Azji Po?udniowej /Chair of South Asia Studies Wydzia? Orientalistyczny / Faculty of Oriental Studies Uniwersytet Warszawski /University of Warsaw ul. Krakowskie Przedmie?cie 26/28 00-927 Warszawa , Poland Department of Linguistics and Modern Languages College of Human Sciences UNISA Pretoria, RSA Member of Academia Europaea https://uw.academia.edu/JoannaJurewicz pt., 23 kwi 2021 o 17:06 Edeltraud Harzer napisa?(a): > Congratulations, Rich, certainly well deserved! > Traude. > > Voice recognition helped me create this message. > > > On Apr 22, 2021, at 1:35 PM, Olivelle, J P via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > > > ?Congratulations to Richard Salomon, who was just elected to the > American Academy of Arts and Sciences. 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Joanna Jurewicz > Katedra Azji Po?udniowej /Chair of South Asia Studies > Wydzia? Orientalistyczny / Faculty of Oriental Studies > Uniwersytet Warszawski /University of Warsaw > ul. Krakowskie Przedmie?cie 26/28 > 00-927 Warszawa , Poland > Department of Linguistics and Modern Languages > College of Human Sciences > UNISA > Pretoria, RSA > Member of Academia Europaea > https://uw.academia.edu/JoannaJurewicz > > > pt., 23 kwi 2021 o 17:06 Edeltraud Harzer napisa?(a): >> Congratulations, Rich, certainly well deserved! >> Traude. >> >> Voice recognition helped me create this message. >> >> > On Apr 22, 2021, at 1:35 PM, Olivelle, J P via INDOLOGY wrote: >> > >> > ?Congratulations to Richard Salomon, who was just elected to the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. 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Matthew Kapstein Directeur d'?tudes, ?m?rite Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, Paris Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, The University of Chicago ________________________________ From: INDOLOGY on behalf of Harsha Dehejia via INDOLOGY Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2021 6:00 AM To: Indology Mailing List Subject: [INDOLOGY] When God Is A Customer Friends: Would anyone have a pdf of the book: When God Is A Customer by David Schulman? Kind regards, Harsha Prof. Harsha V. Dehejia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dharmayuddha2017 at gmail.com Sat Apr 24 14:04:38 2021 From: dharmayuddha2017 at gmail.com (Veeranarayanacharya Pandurangi) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2021 19:34:38 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Rgveda complete study material and reverse word index Message-ID: Dear all I would like to have comprehensive study material of rgveda which includes most of the recent research scholarship. I use Jamison 2014. But there is no explanation for translation followed. I would like to see such explanation for each and every word. A detailed commentary in English. I would like to know if Rgveda reverse word index is prepared by anyone. Thanks to all of you Veeranarayana NK Pandurangi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From diegoloukota at ucla.edu Sat Apr 24 14:15:02 2021 From: diegoloukota at ucla.edu (DIEGO LOUKOTA SANCLEMENTE) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2021 09:15:02 -0500 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Rgveda complete study material and reverse word index In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Veeranarayana, Prof. Jamison is publishing her commentary online in the following website: http://rigvedacommentary.alc.ucla.edu/ The commentary is work in progress, but eventually it should cover the entire text and substantial sections are finished already. I hope this helps!. *namaskaromi*, Diego On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 9:09 AM Veeranarayanacharya Pandurangi via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear all > I would like to have comprehensive study material of rgveda which > includes most of the recent research scholarship. I use Jamison 2014. But > there is no explanation for translation followed. I would like to see such > explanation for each and every word. A detailed commentary in English. > > I would like to know if > Rgveda reverse word index is prepared by anyone. > Thanks to all of you > Veeranarayana NK Pandurangi > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jpo at austin.utexas.edu Sat Apr 24 14:46:34 2021 From: jpo at austin.utexas.edu (Olivelle, J P) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2021 14:46:34 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Rgveda complete study material and reverse word index In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You can see the commentary here: http://rigvedacommentary.alc.ucla.edu > On Apr 24, 2021, at 9:04 AM, Veeranarayanacharya Pandurangi via INDOLOGY wrote: > > Dear all > I would like to have comprehensive study material of rgveda which includes most of the recent research scholarship. I use Jamison 2014. But there is no explanation for translation followed. I would like to see such explanation for each and every word. A detailed commentary in English. > > I would like to know if > Rgveda reverse word index is prepared by anyone. > Thanks to all of you > Veeranarayana NK Pandurangi > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>> This message is from an external sender. Learn more about why this << >>> matters at https://links.utexas.edu/rtyclf. << From dharmayuddha2017 at gmail.com Sun Apr 25 02:03:50 2021 From: dharmayuddha2017 at gmail.com (Veeranarayanacharya Pandurangi) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2021 07:33:50 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Rgveda complete study material and reverse word index In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks. It is good they are moving ahead with this commentary, which was available partly few years ago. Still many mantras are left out for being too clear? for example 1.2.4-6 are left. I hope they will cover whole rgveda. This will help us to understand the western perspective which I want to note in my new commentary on first mandala. Any other suggestions? On Sat, 24 Apr, 2021, 8:16 pm Olivelle, J P, wrote: > You can see the commentary here: > > http://rigvedacommentary.alc.ucla.edu > > > > > > On Apr 24, 2021, at 9:04 AM, Veeranarayanacharya Pandurangi via INDOLOGY > wrote: > > > > Dear all > > I would like to have comprehensive study material of rgveda which > includes most of the recent research scholarship. I use Jamison 2014. But > there is no explanation for translation followed. I would like to see such > explanation for each and every word. A detailed commentary in English. > > > > I would like to know if > > Rgveda reverse word index is prepared by anyone. > > Thanks to all of you > > Veeranarayana NK Pandurangi > > > > _______________________________________________ > > INDOLOGY mailing list > > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > >>> This message is from an external sender. Learn more about why this << > >>> matters at https://links.utexas.edu/rtyclf. << > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark.allon at sydney.edu.au Sun Apr 25 04:31:55 2021 From: mark.allon at sydney.edu.au (Mark Allon) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2021 04:31:55 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Journal of Gandharan Buddhist Texts Message-ID: Dear list members, We would like to bring to your attention the launch of the electronic Journal of Gandh?ran Buddhist Texts. The main objective of this peer-reviewed journal, which is hosted by the University of Sydney, is to make available ?threshold? editions of Gandh?ran textual materials more quickly and in a dynamic and interactive manner. The journal is in part a response to the enormous amount of new G?ndh?r? and Sanskrit manuscripts and inscriptions from the Greater Gandh?ran region that remain unpublished, and in part a response to the desire to make that material available in a more comprehensive form than is possible in conventional print publications. The editorial board is made up of scholars working in the field: https://gandhari-texts.sydney.edu.au/journal/. The first three articles provide digital editions of sutras from the Robert Senior collection of Kharo??h? manuscripts: 1. *A?atvalak?a?a-sutra (RS22.02), a G?ndh?r? version of the second discourse of the Buddha known in Pali as the Anattalakkha?a-sutta, by Mark Allon, Stephanie Majcher, and Ian McCrabb: https://gandhari-texts.sydney.edu.au/text/a%e1%b9%87atvalak%e1%b9%a3a%e1%b9%87a-sutra/. 2. *Suhadukha-sutra (RS20.01), a G?ndh?r? sutra without an exact parallel, by Joe Marino: https://gandhari-texts.sydney.edu.au/text/suhadukha-sutra/. 3. *Mahapara?aha-sutra (RS20.02), a G?ndh?r? parallel to the Pali (Mah?)-Pari??ha-sutta, by Joe Marino: https://gandhari-texts.sydney.edu.au/text/mahapara%e1%b8%8daha-sutra/. For these first articles, the framing content for each is minimal with the reader being referred to print publications for further details and analysis. Future articles may be stand-alone publications. Some of the features and resources provided by the digital editions are: * ability to switch between diplomatic, reconstruction, and hybrid editions * ability to easily align the edition, English translation and Sanskrit ch?y? * full glossary * interactive image and text with a word selected in the edition being highlighted by segments in the image * ability to reveal the grammatical status, Pali and Sanskrit cognates, etc., of each word by double clicking on each word in the text * palaeographic report * ability to export the editions in standards-based formats (TEI, HTML, etc.) * additional resources such as downloadable colour and infrared images of the manuscript or inscription, images of select reconstructed sections, and related images such as historical images and images of the manuscript in the process of being conserved * reference to a companion print publication, such as a journal article or a volume in the Gandh?ran Buddhist Text (GBT) series (University of Washington Press). Companion publications may have a DOI link to this electronic publication * facility for readers? comments/feedback to be added. The platforms involved are listed here: https://gandhari-texts.sydney.edu.au/people/. We invite submissions of textual material (manuscripts, inscriptions, etc.) from the Greater Gandh?ran region. Guidelines for submission, with various options for authors to onboard their texts into the journal are available upon application. For further details, contact Mark Allon: mark.allon at sydney.edu.au. Respectfully, Editors: Mark Allon, Paul Harrison, Richard Salomon Management Board: Andrew Glass, Stephanie Majcher, Joe Marino, Ian McCrabb -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From s.raman at utoronto.ca Sun Apr 25 13:15:26 2021 From: s.raman at utoronto.ca (Srilata Raman) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2021 13:15:26 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?windows-1252?q?Fran=E7ois_Gros_=281933-2021=29?= Message-ID: Dear Colleagues, It is with deep sadness that I wish to share with you the news of the passing of Professor Fran?ois Gros in Lyons, France at the age of 88. Fran?ois ?douard St?phane Gros was a child of a France still actively connected to the Second World War. He was born and grew up and lived his last years in Lyons, France in a street named after his namesake, his grandfather Fran?ois Gros, a Latin scholar. Having received a classical French education, he studied pre-history under Andr? Leroi-Gourhan and learned anthropology from Louis Dumont and sociology and economic history from Daniel Thorner. Senior to him at the Fondation Thiers, Paris was Michel Foucault. He began his working life as a French Teacher in Algeria and his deep and abiding interest in Tamil Studies began with his frequent visits to Pondicherry from 1963 onwards, to study the Tamil language and literature. He founded a number of important research programmes at The French Institute, Pondicherry including the project that resulted in the Historical Atlas of South India, working actively and collaboratively with many generations of Indian scholars. He was an important consultant on the translation and lexicographical projects of the Chennai based Cre-A publishers. Fran?ois Gros was unusual in Tamil Studies for his vast erudition, not just of premodern Tamil literature but also of the contemporary literary landscape, seeing the entire Tamil literature through a capacious vision of what linked the old and the new. He was also an extraordinary and discerning collector of Tamil printed materials ? assembling a unique, and now extremely rare and valuable private collection of Tamil books, and also works on European studies of South India beginning from the 17th century. Starting in 2018 he collaborated actively with Srilata Raman at Toronto and M. Kannan of the French Institute, Pondicherry in donating the core of approximately 10,000 books of this invaluable resource for Tamil Studies to the University of Toronto where it is currently housed and in the process of being catalogued. The rare works of the Gros Collection of the University of Toronto Libraries will be made available to scholars through free digital access once the pandemic is over and the work can be completed. Those of us in Tamil Studies today remember and mourn the passing of a scholar of breadth and vision in the field and we who knew him personally also a delightful and deeply lovable human being. with warm regards, Srilata Raman, Associate Professor of Hinduism, University of Toronto. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dnreigle at gmail.com Sun Apr 25 14:53:06 2021 From: dnreigle at gmail.com (David and Nancy Reigle) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2021 08:53:06 -0600 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Rgveda complete study material and reverse word index In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Prof. Pandurangi, Regarding comprehensive study material for the ?gveda, and in particular your question as to whether a ?gveda reverse word index had been prepared by anyone: I do not know of a reverse word index. You no doubt already use the complete ?gveda word index prepared by Vishva Bandhu and his team. Besides this, there is another helpful study tool, *A ?gvedic Word Concordance*, by Alexander Lubotsky, 2 volumes, 1997. It lists every word found in the ?gveda, followed by the number of its occurrences there, and then it gives every p?da in which the word occurs. So you can easily see the usage of each word throughout the whole ?gveda in one convenient place. Of course, you often have to go to the whole verse, or even the whole s?kta, to get the context. But it provides a good start. I do not know if it is available online. Best regards, David Reigle Colorado, U.S.A. On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 8:04 PM Veeranarayanacharya Pandurangi via INDOLOGY wrote: > Thanks. > It is good they are moving ahead with this commentary, which was available > partly few years ago. > > Still many mantras are left out for being too clear? for example 1.2.4-6 > are left. > I hope they will cover whole rgveda. > > This will help us to understand the western perspective which I want to > note in my new commentary on first mandala. > > Any other suggestions? > > On Sat, 24 Apr, 2021, 8:16 pm Olivelle, J P, > wrote: > >> You can see the commentary here: >> >> http://rigvedacommentary.alc.ucla.edu >> >> >> >> >> > On Apr 24, 2021, at 9:04 AM, Veeranarayanacharya Pandurangi via >> INDOLOGY wrote: >> > >> > Dear all >> > I would like to have comprehensive study material of rgveda which >> includes most of the recent research scholarship. I use Jamison 2014. But >> there is no explanation for translation followed. I would like to see such >> explanation for each and every word. A detailed commentary in English. >> > >> > I would like to know if >> > Rgveda reverse word index is prepared by anyone. >> > Thanks to all of you >> > Veeranarayana NK Pandurangi >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > INDOLOGY mailing list >> > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> >>> This message is from an external sender. Learn more about why this << >> >>> matters at https://links.utexas.edu/rtyclf. << >> >> > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jean-luc.chevillard at univ-paris-diderot.fr Sun Apr 25 14:58:38 2021 From: jean-luc.chevillard at univ-paris-diderot.fr (Jean-Luc Chevillard) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2021 16:58:38 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?q?Fran=C3=A7ois_Gros_=281933-2021=29?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5b450946-42c8-409f-2d8e-286c0c921c2d@univ-paris-diderot.fr> Dear Srilata, It is with deep sadness that I read this news. I feel very much indebted to Fran?ois Gros. His name will be forever associated with the ???????? [parip??al], with the ??????? [t?v?ram] and with many other facets of the world of Tamil studies. I shall miss him very much. -- Jean-Luc https://twitter.com/JLC1956 On 25/04/2021 15:15, Srilata Raman via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > It is with deep sadness that I wish to share with you the news of the > passing of Professor Fran?ois Gros in Lyons, France at the age of 88. > > Fran?ois ?douard St?phane Gros was a child of a France still actively > connected to the Second World War. He was born and grew up and lived his > last years in Lyons, France in a street named after his namesake, his > grandfather Fran?ois Gros, a Latin scholar. Having received a classical > French education, he studied pre-history under Andr? Leroi-Gourhan and > learned anthropology from Louis Dumont and sociology and economic > history from Daniel Thorner. Senior to him at the Fondation Thiers, > Paris was Michel Foucault. He began his working life as a French Teacher > in Algeria and his deep and abiding interest in Tamil Studies began with > his frequent visits to Pondicherry from 1963 onwards, to study the Tamil > language and literature. He founded a number of important research > programmes at The French Institute, Pondicherry including the project > that resulted in the Historical Atlas of South India, working actively > and collaboratively with many generations of Indian scholars. He was an > important? consultant on the translation and lexicographical projects of > the Chennai based Cre-A publishers. Fran?ois Gros was unusual in Tamil > Studies for his vast erudition, not just of premodern Tamil literature > but also of the contemporary literary landscape, seeing the entire Tamil > literature through a capacious vision of what linked the old and the > new. He was also an extraordinary and discerning collector of Tamil > printed materials ? assembling a unique, and now extremely rare and > valuable private collection of Tamil books,? and also?works on European > studies of South India beginning from the 17^th century. Starting in > 2018 he collaborated actively with Srilata Raman at Toronto and M. > Kannan of the French Institute, Pondicherry in donating the core of > approximately 10,000 books of this invaluable resource for Tamil Studies > to the University of Toronto where it is currently housedand in the > process of being catalogued. The rare works of the Gros Collection of > the University of Toronto Libraries will be made available to scholars > through free digital access once the pandemic is over and the work can > be completed. Those of us in Tamil Studies today remember and mourn the > passing of a scholar of breadth and vision in the field and we who knew > him personally also a delightful and deeply lovable human being. > > > with warm regards, > > Srilata Raman, > > Associate Professor of Hinduism, > > University of Toronto. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > From franco at uni-leipzig.de Sun Apr 25 15:14:26 2021 From: franco at uni-leipzig.de (Eli Franco) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2021 17:14:26 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?q?Fran=C3=A7ois_Gros_=281933-2021=29?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20210425171426.Horde.OZpSc4Trg65UPQ-K-ZDNvSo@mail.uni-leipzig.de> Dear Srilata, This sad news indeed. We used to be close when I lived in Pondicherry in 1979 and I greatly admired his sharp intellect, broad horizons, and not the least his witty, ironical remarks. One that stuck, and by which, I think, he would like to be remembered is: ?Les ?l?ves de monsieur Filliozat sont des autodidactes.? (He meant Jean, of course.) Best wishes, Eli Zitat von Srilata Raman via INDOLOGY : > Dear Colleagues, > > It is with deep sadness that I wish to share with you the news of > the passing of Professor Fran?ois Gros in Lyons, France at the age > of 88. > Fran?ois ?douard St?phane Gros was a child of a France still > actively connected to the Second World War. He was born and grew up > and lived his last years in Lyons, France in a street named after > his namesake, his grandfather Fran?ois Gros, a Latin scholar. Having > received a classical French education, he studied pre-history under > Andr? Leroi-Gourhan and learned anthropology from Louis Dumont and > sociology and economic history from Daniel Thorner. Senior to him at > the Fondation Thiers, Paris was Michel Foucault. He began his > working life as a French Teacher in Algeria and his deep and abiding > interest in Tamil Studies began with his frequent visits to > Pondicherry from 1963 onwards, to study the Tamil language and > literature. He founded a number of important research programmes at > The French Institute, Pondicherry including the project that > resulted in the Historical Atlas of South India, working actively > and collaboratively with many generations of Indian scholars. He was > an important consultant on the translation and lexicographical > projects of the Chennai based Cre-A publishers. Fran?ois Gros was > unusual in Tamil Studies for his vast erudition, not just of > premodern Tamil literature but also of the contemporary literary > landscape, seeing the entire Tamil literature through a capacious > vision of what linked the old and the new. He was also an > extraordinary and discerning collector of Tamil printed materials ? > assembling a unique, and now extremely rare and valuable private > collection of Tamil books, and also works on European studies of > South India beginning from the 17th century. Starting in 2018 he > collaborated actively with Srilata Raman at Toronto and M. Kannan of > the French Institute, Pondicherry in donating the core of > approximately 10,000 books of this invaluable resource for Tamil > Studies to the University of Toronto where it is currently housed > and in the process of being catalogued. The rare works of the Gros > Collection of the University of Toronto Libraries will be made > available to scholars through free digital access once the pandemic > is over and the work can be completed. Those of us in Tamil Studies > today remember and mourn the passing of a scholar of breadth and > vision in the field and we who knew him personally also a delightful > and deeply lovable human being. > > with warm regards, > Srilata Raman, > Associate Professor of Hinduism, > University of Toronto. -- Prof. Dr. Eli Franco Institut f?r Indologie und Zentralasienwissenschaften Schillerstr. 6 04109 Leipzig Ph. +49 341 9737 121, 9737 120 (dept. office) Fax +49 341 9737 148 From hhhock at illinois.edu Sun Apr 25 16:43:22 2021 From: hhhock at illinois.edu (Hock, Hans Henrich) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2021 16:43:22 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Rgveda complete study material and reverse word index In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <94697024-A6B4-4CA2-BF2A-7EE107E46175@illinois.edu> Dear Colleague Grassmann?s dictionary has a reverse index at the end Best wishes HHH On Apr 25, 2021, at 09:53, David and Nancy Reigle via INDOLOGY wrote: ? Dear Prof. Pandurangi, Regarding comprehensive study material for the ?gveda, and in particular your question as to whether a ?gveda reverse word index had been prepared by anyone: I do not know of a reverse word index. You no doubt already use the complete ?gveda word index prepared by Vishva Bandhu and his team. Besides this, there is another helpful study tool, A ?gvedic Word Concordance, by Alexander Lubotsky, 2 volumes, 1997. It lists every word found in the ?gveda, followed by the number of its occurrences there, and then it gives every p?da in which the word occurs. So you can easily see the usage of each word throughout the whole ?gveda in one convenient place. Of course, you often have to go to the whole verse, or even the whole s?kta, to get the context. But it provides a good start. I do not know if it is available online. Best regards, David Reigle Colorado, U.S.A. On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 8:04 PM Veeranarayanacharya Pandurangi via INDOLOGY > wrote: Thanks. It is good they are moving ahead with this commentary, which was available partly few years ago. Still many mantras are left out for being too clear? for example 1.2.4-6 are left. I hope they will cover whole rgveda. This will help us to understand the western perspective which I want to note in my new commentary on first mandala. Any other suggestions? On Sat, 24 Apr, 2021, 8:16 pm Olivelle, J P, > wrote: You can see the commentary here: http://rigvedacommentary.alc.ucla.edu > On Apr 24, 2021, at 9:04 AM, Veeranarayanacharya Pandurangi via INDOLOGY > wrote: > > Dear all > I would like to have comprehensive study material of rgveda which includes most of the recent research scholarship. I use Jamison 2014. But there is no explanation for translation followed. I would like to see such explanation for each and every word. 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Best, Dominik Wujastyk On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 at 20:05, Veeranarayanacharya Pandurangi via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Thanks. > It is good they are moving ahead with this commentary, which was available > partly few years ago. > > Still many mantras are left out for being too clear? for example 1.2.4-6 > are left. > I hope they will cover whole rgveda. > > This will help us to understand the western perspective which I want to > note in my new commentary on first mandala. > > Any other suggestions? > > On Sat, 24 Apr, 2021, 8:16 pm Olivelle, J P, > wrote: > >> You can see the commentary here: >> >> http://rigvedacommentary.alc.ucla.edu >> >> >> >> >> > On Apr 24, 2021, at 9:04 AM, Veeranarayanacharya Pandurangi via >> INDOLOGY wrote: >> > >> > Dear all >> > I would like to have comprehensive study material of rgveda which >> includes most of the recent research scholarship. I use Jamison 2014. But >> there is no explanation for translation followed. I would like to see such >> explanation for each and every word. A detailed commentary in English. >> > >> > I would like to know if >> > Rgveda reverse word index is prepared by anyone. >> > Thanks to all of you >> > Veeranarayana NK Pandurangi >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > INDOLOGY mailing list >> > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> >>> This message is from an external sender. Learn more about why this << >> >>> matters at https://links.utexas.edu/rtyclf. << >> >> > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 6:54 PM Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Is there such a thing as a western perspective on the RV? What might be > the demarcation criteria for such a taxonomy? And if such a category could > be delineated, would it be desirable or fruitful to do so? In my view, the > category "western" or "the West" is best avoided because it is so deeply > flawed, conceptually, that whatever you say it is, there are ten > counter-examples. The most obvious of which being that Japan, where much > Vedic research is conducted, is east of India. > > I prefer to proceed on the basis that all serious scholars are united in > their pursuit of truth, wherever their desks may happen to be located. > > Best, > Dominik Wujastyk > > > On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 at 20:05, Veeranarayanacharya Pandurangi via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Thanks. >> It is good they are moving ahead with this commentary, which was >> available partly few years ago. >> >> Still many mantras are left out for being too clear? for example 1.2.4-6 >> are left. >> I hope they will cover whole rgveda. >> >> This will help us to understand the western perspective which I want to >> note in my new commentary on first mandala. >> >> Any other suggestions? >> >> On Sat, 24 Apr, 2021, 8:16 pm Olivelle, J P, >> wrote: >> >>> You can see the commentary here: >>> >>> http://rigvedacommentary.alc.ucla.edu >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > On Apr 24, 2021, at 9:04 AM, Veeranarayanacharya Pandurangi via >>> INDOLOGY wrote: >>> > >>> > Dear all >>> > I would like to have comprehensive study material of rgveda which >>> includes most of the recent research scholarship. I use Jamison 2014. But >>> there is no explanation for translation followed. I would like to see such >>> explanation for each and every word. A detailed commentary in English. >>> > >>> > I would like to know if >>> > Rgveda reverse word index is prepared by anyone. >>> > Thanks to all of you >>> > Veeranarayana NK Pandurangi >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > INDOLOGY mailing list >>> > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>> >>> This message is from an external sender. Learn more about why this << >>> >>> matters at https://links.utexas.edu/rtyclf. >>> << >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com Mon Apr 26 03:38:21 2021 From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 09:08:21 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Rgveda complete study material and reverse word index In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > This "Indian" does not include "westernized Indian" but often includes "Indianized westerners." If "Indian" includes "Indianized westerners"' and "western" includes "westernized Indian " then it shows that this classification is not based on the place of origin of the researcher/scholar but is based on -ization, a certain approach to the material studied. The category 'western' as a label for a certain worldview , a certain approach to understanding things has been used widely in the academic studies world over. If there are two approaches to issues they being purvapaksha to each other is good for the health of academic studies. Readers too get excited to follow the debate. On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 8:22 AM Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear Dominik, > > I entirely agree with you. In some quarters there is a tendency to > consider everything "western" to be a P?rvapak?a, with an implication that > a Siddh?nta can come only from what can be labeled "Indian." This "Indian" > does not include "westernized Indian" but often includes "Indianized > westerners." Such labels already distance a reader from the content of a > given argument, and they have to first take sides based on the labels > attached to arguments. Such is the sociopolitical reality of academics. > > Madhav > > Madhav M. Deshpande > Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics > University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies > Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India > > [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] > > > On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 6:54 PM Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Is there such a thing as a western perspective on the RV? What might be >> the demarcation criteria for such a taxonomy? And if such a category could >> be delineated, would it be desirable or fruitful to do so? In my view, the >> category "western" or "the West" is best avoided because it is so deeply >> flawed, conceptually, that whatever you say it is, there are ten >> counter-examples. The most obvious of which being that Japan, where much >> Vedic research is conducted, is east of India. >> >> I prefer to proceed on the basis that all serious scholars are united in >> their pursuit of truth, wherever their desks may happen to be located. >> >> Best, >> Dominik Wujastyk >> >> >> On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 at 20:05, Veeranarayanacharya Pandurangi via INDOLOGY >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks. >>> It is good they are moving ahead with this commentary, which was >>> available partly few years ago. >>> >>> Still many mantras are left out for being too clear? for example 1.2.4-6 >>> are left. >>> I hope they will cover whole rgveda. >>> >>> This will help us to understand the western perspective which I want to >>> note in my new commentary on first mandala. >>> >>> Any other suggestions? >>> >>> On Sat, 24 Apr, 2021, 8:16 pm Olivelle, J P, >>> wrote: >>> >>>> You can see the commentary here: >>>> >>>> http://rigvedacommentary.alc.ucla.edu >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > On Apr 24, 2021, at 9:04 AM, Veeranarayanacharya Pandurangi via >>>> INDOLOGY wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Dear all >>>> > I would like to have comprehensive study material of rgveda which >>>> includes most of the recent research scholarship. I use Jamison 2014. But >>>> there is no explanation for translation followed. I would like to see such >>>> explanation for each and every word. A detailed commentary in English. >>>> > >>>> > I would like to know if >>>> > Rgveda reverse word index is prepared by anyone. >>>> > Thanks to all of you >>>> > Veeranarayana NK Pandurangi >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > INDOLOGY mailing list >>>> > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>> > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>>> >>> This message is from an external sender. Learn more about why this >>>> << >>>> >>> matters at https://links.utexas.edu/rtyclf. >>>> << >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. Director, Indic Academy BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru BoS Rashtram School of Public Leadership Editor-in-Chief, International Journal of Studies in Public Leadership Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From camillo.formigatti at bodleian.ox.ac.uk Mon Apr 26 10:03:56 2021 From: camillo.formigatti at bodleian.ox.ac.uk (Camillo Formigatti) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 10:03:56 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Rgveda complete study material and reverse word index In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Dear colleagues. Please forgive me for sharing my two pennies with you, above all because I'm not a Vedic scholar. However, the discussion about Western vs Indian Indology goes well beyond the boundaries of Vedic studies, as we all know -- unluckily, if I may say so. In my modest opinion, nominal arguments based on analysis of labels in -isation (or -ization, if your prefer the American spelling, apparently the West is not a monolithic entity even in terms of English grammar), are merely vitaNDa -- but again, I might be wrong. Let's start from a materialistic approach instead and see who in fact represents the two points of view and, even more importantly, for which economic, political, and social reasons are doing so. Only then this discussion will be fruitful, otherwise we will be beating around the bush. If you think that this list is not the right place for this kind of discussion, I perfectly agree with you and you can let this message be the last one of this thread. Best wishes, Camillo P.S. As to labels, please feel free to infer what is my materialistic stance based the analysis of the economic, political, and social relationships in a given historical period of a given society -- if you so wish. ________________________________ Dr Camillo A. Formigatti Information Analyst ? FAMOUS Project Bodleian Libraries The Weston Library Broad Street, Oxford OX1 3BG Email: camillo.formigatti at bodleian.ox.ac.uk Tel. (office): 01865 (2)77208 www.bodleian.ox.ac.uk GROW YOUR MIND in Oxford University?s Gardens, Libraries and Museums www.mindgrowing.org ________________________________ From: INDOLOGY on behalf of Nagaraj Paturi via INDOLOGY Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 4:38 AM To: Madhav Deshpande Cc: Indology Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Rgveda complete study material and reverse word index > This "Indian" does not include "westernized Indian" but often includes "Indianized westerners." If "Indian" includes "Indianized westerners"' and "western" includes "westernized Indian " then it shows that this classification is not based on the place of origin of the researcher/scholar but is based on -ization, a certain approach to the material studied. The category 'western' as a label for a certain worldview , a certain approach to understanding things has been used widely in the academic studies world over. If there are two approaches to issues they being purvapaksha to each other is good for the health of academic studies. Readers too get excited to follow the debate. On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 8:22 AM Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY > wrote: Dear Dominik, I entirely agree with you. In some quarters there is a tendency to consider everything "western" to be a P?rvapak?a, with an implication that a Siddh?nta can come only from what can be labeled "Indian." This "Indian" does not include "westernized Indian" but often includes "Indianized westerners." Such labels already distance a reader from the content of a given argument, and they have to first take sides based on the labels attached to arguments. Such is the sociopolitical reality of academics. Madhav Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 6:54 PM Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY > wrote: Is there such a thing as a western perspective on the RV? What might be the demarcation criteria for such a taxonomy? And if such a category could be delineated, would it be desirable or fruitful to do so? In my view, the category "western" or "the West" is best avoided because it is so deeply flawed, conceptually, that whatever you say it is, there are ten counter-examples. The most obvious of which being that Japan, where much Vedic research is conducted, is east of India. I prefer to proceed on the basis that all serious scholars are united in their pursuit of truth, wherever their desks may happen to be located. Best, Dominik Wujastyk On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 at 20:05, Veeranarayanacharya Pandurangi via INDOLOGY > wrote: Thanks. It is good they are moving ahead with this commentary, which was available partly few years ago. Still many mantras are left out for being too clear? for example 1.2.4-6 are left. I hope they will cover whole rgveda. This will help us to understand the western perspective which I want to note in my new commentary on first mandala. Any other suggestions? On Sat, 24 Apr, 2021, 8:16 pm Olivelle, J P, > wrote: You can see the commentary here: http://rigvedacommentary.alc.ucla.edu > On Apr 24, 2021, at 9:04 AM, Veeranarayanacharya Pandurangi via INDOLOGY > wrote: > > Dear all > I would like to have comprehensive study material of rgveda which includes most of the recent research scholarship. I use Jamison 2014. But there is no explanation for translation followed. I would like to see such explanation for each and every word. A detailed commentary in English. > > I would like to know if > Rgveda reverse word index is prepared by anyone. > Thanks to all of you > Veeranarayana NK Pandurangi > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>> This message is from an external sender. Learn more about why this << >>> matters at https://links.utexas.edu/rtyclf. << _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. Director, Indic Academy BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru BoS Rashtram School of Public Leadership Editor-in-Chief, International Journal of Studies in Public Leadership Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl Mon Apr 26 10:37:19 2021 From: H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl (Tieken, H.J.H.) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 10:37:19 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?q?article_on_Ca=E1=B9=85kam_Tamil_poetry?= Message-ID: <0e7120c1a86c4c9689fc75b00007ba9b@hum.leidenuniv.nl> Dear List members, You may find another short article on Tamil Ca?kam poetry on my website (publications>articles), titled "Mud in the Mouth. Akan????u 101" It ends in a note on the ease with which modern translators (Hart, Wilden) accepted the information provided by the commentary, according to which the cattle thieves mentioned in the poem put mud in their mouths to stop the itch in their throats. I challenge the translators to retrospectively produce a passage from the extensive Indian medical literature which prescribes mud for that purpose. Not that it would make any difference for the interpretation of the poem. I am just interested to know if such a prescription exists. With kind regards, Herman Herman Tieken Stationsweg 58 2515 BP Den Haag The Netherlands 00 31 (0)70 2208127 website: hermantieken.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dharmayuddha2017 at gmail.com Mon Apr 26 13:56:27 2021 From: dharmayuddha2017 at gmail.com (Veeranarayanacharya Pandurangi) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 19:26:27 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Rgveda complete study material and reverse word index In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is very important question that will be discussed in my commentary. To be realistic, I don't differentiate between them. They are good and bad. But as I discussed in bvp earlier, it is important to bring the inner meaning and make mantras understandable. Here most of the commentators both old and new have miserably failed? as I wrote it on ??????? ???? ??????? ????????? However I just wanted to know what is written in western world recently. On Mon, 26 Apr, 2021, 7:25 am Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY, < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Is there such a thing as a western perspective on the RV? What might be > the demarcation criteria for such a taxonomy? And if such a category could > be delineated, would it be desirable or fruitful to do so? In my view, the > category "western" or "the West" is best avoided because it is so deeply > flawed, conceptually, that whatever you say it is, there are ten > counter-examples. The most obvious of which being that Japan, where much > Vedic research is conducted, is east of India. > > I prefer to proceed on the basis that all serious scholars are united in > their pursuit of truth, wherever their desks may happen to be located. > > Best, > Dominik Wujastyk > > > On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 at 20:05, Veeranarayanacharya Pandurangi via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Thanks. >> It is good they are moving ahead with this commentary, which was >> available partly few years ago. >> >> Still many mantras are left out for being too clear? for example 1.2.4-6 >> are left. >> I hope they will cover whole rgveda. >> >> This will help us to understand the western perspective which I want to >> note in my new commentary on first mandala. >> >> Any other suggestions? >> >> On Sat, 24 Apr, 2021, 8:16 pm Olivelle, J P, >> wrote: >> >>> You can see the commentary here: >>> >>> http://rigvedacommentary.alc.ucla.edu >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > On Apr 24, 2021, at 9:04 AM, Veeranarayanacharya Pandurangi via >>> INDOLOGY wrote: >>> > >>> > Dear all >>> > I would like to have comprehensive study material of rgveda which >>> includes most of the recent research scholarship. I use Jamison 2014. But >>> there is no explanation for translation followed. I would like to see such >>> explanation for each and every word. A detailed commentary in English. >>> > >>> > I would like to know if >>> > Rgveda reverse word index is prepared by anyone. >>> > Thanks to all of you >>> > Veeranarayana NK Pandurangi >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > INDOLOGY mailing list >>> > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>> >>> This message is from an external sender. 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The term is useful for the clash-of-civilizations type of narrative, that has goals other than deepening understanding, but not for serious work by serious people. In my thinking and writing in recent years I say "European and North American" if I want to refer to ideas or people from Europe and N. America. I make it specifically geographical, as Camillo too suggests. To do otherwise is to essentialize harmfully, to be Toynbee redivivus, heaven forbid. Best, DW PS, Jack Goody, 2005 : > Following the lead of Malthus, many demographers, like other social > scientists, have drawn a sharp distinction between the European and > non-European family systems, particularly those of Asia. But it is often an > error to oppose the West and the Rest in a categorical manner, as large > numbers of anthropologists, sociologists and historians continue to do. > That leads to the kind of mistakes Malthus made about China. Comparable > errors have been made by anthropologists?Durkheim treating the Chinese as > exemplars of ?primitive classification?, Dumont positing a decisive break > between a hierarchical India and a more egalitarian West, or L?vi-Strauss > bracketing early Chinese with Australian marriage systems. > > Such positions have done considerable harm to social and historical > studies. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com Tue Apr 27 01:17:01 2021 From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 06:47:01 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Rgveda complete study material and reverse word index In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >From the latest response from Prof Pandurangi , it appears that he was using the term in a geographical sense only something like 'from outside India' . But the point remains that studies of literatures , languages and cultures have two distinct approaches: 1. From inside and/or sympathetic to the tradition of living the literature, language , culture being studied. 2. >From outside and/or not necessarily sympathetic to the tradition of living the literature, language, culture being studied. This applies to topics related to India too. When we want to talk about such difference in approach of the scholar, just the geographical location or origin of the scholar may not be a valid basis for categorisation. On Tue, Apr 27, 2021, 4:51 AM Dominik Wujastyk wrote: > On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 at 21:38, Nagaraj Paturi > wrote: > >> >> The category 'western' as a label for a certain worldview , a certain >> approach to understanding things has been used widely in the academic >> studies world over. >> > > I know, and it's a curse. > > In my view, it's impossible to use this category without rapidly > descending into jingoistic language or implications. That's why I never use > it. > > I find Madhav's contrasting terms, westernized-indian and > indianized-westerner fun and thought-provoking. What I draw from this is, > again, that using "west" as a meaningful category to refer to something > cultural is never going to help. The term is useful for the > clash-of-civilizations type of narrative, that has goals other than > deepening understanding, but not for serious work by serious people. > > In my thinking and writing in recent years I say "European and North > American" if I want to refer to ideas or people from Europe and N. > America. I make it specifically geographical, as Camillo too suggests. To > do otherwise is to essentialize harmfully, to be Toynbee redivivus, heaven > forbid. > Best, > DW > > PS, > Jack Goody, 2005 > : > > >> Following the lead of Malthus, many demographers, like other social >> scientists, have drawn a sharp distinction between the European and >> non-European family systems, particularly those of Asia. But it is often an >> error to oppose the West and the Rest in a categorical manner, as large >> numbers of anthropologists, sociologists and historians continue to do. >> That leads to the kind of mistakes Malthus made about China. Comparable >> errors have been made by anthropologists?Durkheim treating the Chinese as >> exemplars of ?primitive classification?, Dumont positing a decisive break >> between a hierarchical India and a more egalitarian West, or L?vi-Strauss >> bracketing early Chinese with Australian marriage systems. >> >> Such positions have done considerable harm to social and historical >> studies. >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From andrew.ollett at gmail.com Tue Apr 27 01:56:52 2021 From: andrew.ollett at gmail.com (Andrew Ollett) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 20:56:52 -0500 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Rgveda complete study material and reverse word index In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Dominik, dear all, When Prof. Pandurangi asked about the "western perspective," I supposed (charitably) that he was asking for outstanding recent representatives of a tradition of scholarship that is informed by comparative philology, comparative mythology, historical linguistics, ritual studies, and literary studies, regardless of whether it is produced in LA, Erlangen, Kyoto, or Pune. I hope he has received sufficient answers from specialists on this list. Now we are no longer talking about a request for information, but the possible justifications for speaking, in general terms, about the "Western" and "Indian" approaches, and as Dr. Paturi revealingly said, between "outsider" and "insider" perspectives. I don't think it's useful to have a conversation about the possible intellectual justifications for using these terms. The people who use those terms often, if not always, use them for other purposes than "doing useful intellectual work," and I trust the members of the list know precisely the uses to which these terms have been put in the last, say, five years. Sorry to spam everyone's inboxes with an opinion rather than useful information. I hope that all of our friends and colleagues in India are staying as safe and healthy as they possibly can. Andrew On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 8:26 PM Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > and 3. from inside and unsympathetic and 4. from outside and sympathetic. > > This is what I mean. 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McC [cid:d15a179d-4fcc-489b-8cff-cc87bcdd372e] McComas Taylor Associate Professor Reader in Sanskrit College of Asia and the Pacific The Australian National University WSC Website| McC Website Zoom: https://tinyurl.com/p01tig8k ________________________________ From: INDOLOGY on behalf of Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 11:24 AM To: Nagaraj Paturi Cc: Indology Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Rgveda complete study material and reverse word index and 3. from inside and unsympathetic and 4. from outside and sympathetic. This is what I mean. Getting these categories to do useful intellectual work is nearly impossible. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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All these categories of biases have inherent basis of culture-outsider's perspective only. They were not specifically created for the context of Indology. Studies of culture in disciplines like Cultural Anthropology had to move towards Cultural Relativism etc., methodologies had to move towards pParticipant-Observation etc., to avoid these realized biases only. That is what helped researchers and scholars in these fields to move from calling the cultural practices of their focus 'superstitions' to a stage of making sense of the culture-insider's sense. In all these endeavours of identifying and overcoming biases , nija of the studied culture and para of the studied culture , nija-perspective of the studied culture and para-perspective of the studied culture were required to be recognized and analysed for a more and more tatastha , nirmama understanding of the adhyeyya. In Vaada nijapaksha and parapaksha do not get effected by udaaracharita and vice versa. We can work for our national universities, national bodies and national interests in a way very much compatible with our udaaracharita and viewing vasudhaa as ekakutumba only. On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 7:31 AM McComas Taylor via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > aya? nija? paro veti ga?an? laghucetas?m | > ud?racarit?n?? tu vasudhaiva ku?umbakam || > > 'Who is an insider and who an outside?' ask small-minded men. > The whole world is one family for the noble-minded ones. > > No offence. > > McC > > > > *McComas Taylor* > Associate Professor > Reader in Sanskrit > College of Asia and the Pacific > The Australian National University > WSC Website | McC Website > > Zoom: https://tinyurl.com/p01tig8k > > ------------------------------ > *From:* INDOLOGY on behalf of > Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 27, 2021 11:24 AM > *To:* Nagaraj Paturi > *Cc:* Indology > *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] Rgveda complete study material and reverse word > index > > and 3. from inside and unsympathetic and 4. from outside and sympathetic. > > This is what I mean. Getting these categories to do useful intellectual > work is nearly impossible. > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. Director, Indic Academy BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru BoS Rashtram School of Public Leadership Editor-in-Chief, International Journal of Studies in Public Leadership Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Getting these categories to do useful intellectual work is nearly impossible. _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tylerwwilliams at gmail.com Tue Apr 27 14:03:31 2021 From: tylerwwilliams at gmail.com (Tyler Williams) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 09:03:31 -0500 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Rgveda complete study material and reverse word index In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear colleagues, I think that Dominik and Andrew have effectively made the case that this insider/outsider distinction does no useful analytical work in our disciplines; I furthermore realize that few if any will be persuaded by polemics on this thread. Nevertheless, this insider/outsider rhetoric not only vitiates the productive atmosphere of collegial exchange that should characterize our profession (and that has thankfully characterized the Indology list in the past); it prevents us from doing rigorous historical as well as philological work, including into histories of racism in our fields. As such, the sooner we put it to rest the better. One colleague has opined: "Human products of culture having a culture-insider's perspective and culture outsider's perspective is an established professional understanding in the contemporary studies of culture world over. " This is patently false. Current understandings among anthropologists and cultural theorists, not to mention historians, consistently challenge this crude binary, arguing that in fact the notions of 'insider' and 'outsider' are constantly being made and remade through processes that are distinctly contingent, historical, and political. These scholars also point out that appeals to notions of 'insider' and 'outsider' necessarily mask internal heterogeneity, most often in the interest of consolidating the hegemony of those that seek to represent a supposedly 'authentic' 'insider' perspective. Consequently, such vulgar interpretations of the serious work of anti-colonial scholars like Said and Fanon only serve to carve out a domain of dubious authority for an imagined insider?and those pushing this idea these days invariably cast themselves as such an insider: a convenient assignment of authority to oneself. As Andrew pointed out, we are only too familiar with how this has been pursued over the past several years: individuals and organizations conferring on themselves the authority to decide which Indologist or scholar is an insider and which is an outsider. Apologies for the prolixity but having seen the intellectual damage that this crude binary does in our fields, I truly hope we can put it to rest and move on. As always, I am happy to point interested colleagues to relevant sources in anthropology, history, critical race theory, etcetera. Regards, Tyler Williams On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 12:14 AM Nagaraj Paturi via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > I already made it clear that the basis of division is not the location or > place of origin of the scholar. All vasudhaa during that categorization is > a single kutumba . > > Human products of culture having a culture-insider's perspective and > culture outsider's perspective is an established professional understanding > in the contemporary studies of culture world over. > > Labels like Euro-centric , Orientalist etc. to refer to biases in > observing , analysing , interpreting and representing cultures were all > part of professional contemporary international academics only. All these > categories of biases have inherent basis of culture-outsider's perspective > only. They were not specifically created for the context of Indology. > > Studies of culture in disciplines like Cultural Anthropology had to move > towards Cultural Relativism etc., methodologies had to move towards > pParticipant-Observation etc., to avoid these realized biases only. That is > what helped researchers and scholars in these fields to move from calling > the cultural practices of their focus 'superstitions' to a stage of making > sense of the culture-insider's sense. > > In all these endeavours of identifying and overcoming biases , nija of the > studied culture and para of the studied culture , nija-perspective of the > studied culture and para-perspective of the studied culture were required > to be recognized and analysed for a more and more tatastha , nirmama > understanding of the adhyeyya. > > In Vaada nijapaksha and parapaksha do not get effected by udaaracharita > and vice versa. > > We can work for our national universities, national bodies and national > interests in a way very much compatible with our udaaracharita and viewing > vasudhaa as ekakutumba only. > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 7:31 AM McComas Taylor via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> aya? nija? paro veti ga?an? laghucetas?m | >> ud?racarit?n?? tu vasudhaiva ku?umbakam || >> >> 'Who is an insider and who an outside?' ask small-minded men. >> The whole world is one family for the noble-minded ones. >> >> No offence. >> >> McC >> >> >> >> *McComas Taylor* >> Associate Professor >> Reader in Sanskrit >> College of Asia and the Pacific >> The Australian National University >> WSC Website | McC Website >> >> Zoom: https://tinyurl.com/p01tig8k >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* INDOLOGY on behalf of >> Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY >> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 27, 2021 11:24 AM >> *To:* Nagaraj Paturi >> *Cc:* Indology >> *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] Rgveda complete study material and reverse >> word index >> >> and 3. from inside and unsympathetic and 4. from outside and sympathetic. >> >> This is what I mean. Getting these categories to do useful intellectual >> work is nearly impossible. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > Director, Indic Academy > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala > BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. > Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru > BoS Rashtram School of Public Leadership > Editor-in-Chief, International Journal of Studies in Public Leadership > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In short, this is my etic method for approaching the Vedic texts with an ultimate goal of using this method to recover emic textuality subtly embedded in language, performative frames, and formal organization. https://www.mdpi.com/2077-1444/10/6/394 Best, Caley On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 10:04 AM Tyler Williams via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > I think that Dominik and Andrew have effectively made the case that this > insider/outsider distinction does no useful analytical work in our > disciplines; I furthermore realize that few if any will be persuaded by > polemics on this thread. > > Nevertheless, this insider/outsider rhetoric not only vitiates the > productive atmosphere of collegial exchange that should characterize our > profession (and that has thankfully characterized the Indology list in the > past); it prevents us from doing rigorous historical as well as > philological work, including into histories of racism in our fields. As > such, the sooner we put it to rest the better. > > One colleague has opined: "Human products of culture having a > culture-insider's perspective and culture outsider's perspective is an > established professional understanding in the contemporary studies of > culture world over. " This is patently false. Current understandings among > anthropologists and cultural theorists, not to mention historians, > consistently challenge this crude binary, arguing that in fact the notions > of 'insider' and 'outsider' are constantly being made and remade through > processes that are distinctly contingent, historical, and political. These > scholars also point out that appeals to notions of 'insider' and 'outsider' > necessarily mask internal heterogeneity, most often in the interest of > consolidating the hegemony of those that seek to represent a supposedly > 'authentic' 'insider' perspective. > > Consequently, such vulgar interpretations of the serious work of > anti-colonial scholars like Said and Fanon only serve to carve out a domain > of dubious authority for an imagined insider?and those pushing this idea > these days invariably cast themselves as such an insider: a convenient > assignment of authority to oneself. As Andrew pointed out, we are only too > familiar with how this has been pursued over the past several years: > individuals and organizations conferring on themselves the authority to > decide which Indologist or scholar is an insider and which is an outsider. > > Apologies for the prolixity but having seen the intellectual damage that > this crude binary does in our fields, I truly hope we can put it to rest > and move on. As always, I am happy to point interested colleagues to > relevant sources in anthropology, history, critical race theory, etcetera. > > Regards, > Tyler Williams > > > On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 12:14 AM Nagaraj Paturi via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> I already made it clear that the basis of division is not the location or >> place of origin of the scholar. All vasudhaa during that categorization is >> a single kutumba . >> >> Human products of culture having a culture-insider's perspective and >> culture outsider's perspective is an established professional understanding >> in the contemporary studies of culture world over. >> >> Labels like Euro-centric , Orientalist etc. to refer to biases in >> observing , analysing , interpreting and representing cultures were all >> part of professional contemporary international academics only. All these >> categories of biases have inherent basis of culture-outsider's perspective >> only. They were not specifically created for the context of Indology. >> >> Studies of culture in disciplines like Cultural Anthropology had to move >> towards Cultural Relativism etc., methodologies had to move towards >> pParticipant-Observation etc., to avoid these realized biases only. That is >> what helped researchers and scholars in these fields to move from calling >> the cultural practices of their focus 'superstitions' to a stage of making >> sense of the culture-insider's sense. >> >> In all these endeavours of identifying and overcoming biases , nija of >> the studied culture and para of the studied culture , nija-perspective of >> the studied culture and para-perspective of the studied culture were >> required to be recognized and analysed for a more and more tatastha , >> nirmama understanding of the adhyeyya. >> >> In Vaada nijapaksha and parapaksha do not get effected by udaaracharita >> and vice versa. >> >> We can work for our national universities, national bodies and national >> interests in a way very much compatible with our udaaracharita and viewing >> vasudhaa as ekakutumba only. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 7:31 AM McComas Taylor via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >>> aya? nija? paro veti ga?an? laghucetas?m | >>> ud?racarit?n?? tu vasudhaiva ku?umbakam || >>> >>> 'Who is an insider and who an outside?' ask small-minded men. >>> The whole world is one family for the noble-minded ones. >>> >>> No offence. >>> >>> McC >>> >>> >>> >>> *McComas Taylor* >>> Associate Professor >>> Reader in Sanskrit >>> College of Asia and the Pacific >>> The Australian National University >>> WSC Website | McC Website >>> >>> Zoom: https://tinyurl.com/p01tig8k >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* INDOLOGY on behalf of >>> Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 27, 2021 11:24 AM >>> *To:* Nagaraj Paturi >>> *Cc:* Indology >>> *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] Rgveda complete study material and reverse >>> word index >>> >>> and 3. from inside and unsympathetic and 4. from outside and sympathetic. >>> >>> This is what I mean. Getting these categories to do useful intellectual >>> work is nearly impossible. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>> >> >> >> -- >> Nagaraj Paturi >> >> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >> >> >> Director, Indic Academy >> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra >> BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala >> BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. >> Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru >> BoS Rashtram School of Public Leadership >> Editor-in-Chief, International Journal of Studies in Public Leadership >> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, >> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In short, this is my etic method for > approaching the Vedic texts with an ultimate goal of using this method to > recover emic textuality subtly embedded in language, performative frames, > and formal organization. > > https://www.mdpi.com/2077-1444/10/6/394 > > Best, > Caley > > On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 10:04 AM Tyler Williams via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Dear colleagues, >> >> I think that Dominik and Andrew have effectively made the case that this >> insider/outsider distinction does no useful analytical work in our >> disciplines; I furthermore realize that few if any will be persuaded by >> polemics on this thread. >> >> Nevertheless, this insider/outsider rhetoric not only vitiates the >> productive atmosphere of collegial exchange that should characterize our >> profession (and that has thankfully characterized the Indology list in the >> past); it prevents us from doing rigorous historical as well as >> philological work, including into histories of racism in our fields. As >> such, the sooner we put it to rest the better. >> >> One colleague has opined: "Human products of culture having a >> culture-insider's perspective and culture outsider's perspective is an >> established professional understanding in the contemporary studies of >> culture world over. " This is patently false. Current understandings among >> anthropologists and cultural theorists, not to mention historians, >> consistently challenge this crude binary, arguing that in fact the notions >> of 'insider' and 'outsider' are constantly being made and remade through >> processes that are distinctly contingent, historical, and political. These >> scholars also point out that appeals to notions of 'insider' and 'outsider' >> necessarily mask internal heterogeneity, most often in the interest of >> consolidating the hegemony of those that seek to represent a supposedly >> 'authentic' 'insider' perspective. >> >> Consequently, such vulgar interpretations of the serious work of >> anti-colonial scholars like Said and Fanon only serve to carve out a domain >> of dubious authority for an imagined insider?and those pushing this idea >> these days invariably cast themselves as such an insider: a convenient >> assignment of authority to oneself. As Andrew pointed out, we are only too >> familiar with how this has been pursued over the past several years: >> individuals and organizations conferring on themselves the authority to >> decide which Indologist or scholar is an insider and which is an outsider. >> >> Apologies for the prolixity but having seen the intellectual damage that >> this crude binary does in our fields, I truly hope we can put it to rest >> and move on. As always, I am happy to point interested colleagues to >> relevant sources in anthropology, history, critical race theory, etcetera. >> >> Regards, >> Tyler Williams >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 12:14 AM Nagaraj Paturi via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >>> I already made it clear that the basis of division is not the location >>> or place of origin of the scholar. All vasudhaa during that categorization >>> is a single kutumba . >>> >>> Human products of culture having a culture-insider's perspective and >>> culture outsider's perspective is an established professional understanding >>> in the contemporary studies of culture world over. >>> >>> Labels like Euro-centric , Orientalist etc. to refer to biases in >>> observing , analysing , interpreting and representing cultures were all >>> part of professional contemporary international academics only. All these >>> categories of biases have inherent basis of culture-outsider's perspective >>> only. They were not specifically created for the context of Indology. >>> >>> Studies of culture in disciplines like Cultural Anthropology had to move >>> towards Cultural Relativism etc., methodologies had to move towards >>> pParticipant-Observation etc., to avoid these realized biases only. That is >>> what helped researchers and scholars in these fields to move from calling >>> the cultural practices of their focus 'superstitions' to a stage of making >>> sense of the culture-insider's sense. >>> >>> In all these endeavours of identifying and overcoming biases , nija of >>> the studied culture and para of the studied culture , nija-perspective of >>> the studied culture and para-perspective of the studied culture were >>> required to be recognized and analysed for a more and more tatastha , >>> nirmama understanding of the adhyeyya. >>> >>> In Vaada nijapaksha and parapaksha do not get effected by udaaracharita >>> and vice versa. >>> >>> We can work for our national universities, national bodies and national >>> interests in a way very much compatible with our udaaracharita and viewing >>> vasudhaa as ekakutumba only. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 7:31 AM McComas Taylor via INDOLOGY < >>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >>> >>>> aya? nija? paro veti ga?an? laghucetas?m | >>>> ud?racarit?n?? tu vasudhaiva ku?umbakam || >>>> >>>> 'Who is an insider and who an outside?' ask small-minded men. >>>> The whole world is one family for the noble-minded ones. >>>> >>>> No offence. >>>> >>>> McC >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *McComas Taylor* >>>> Associate Professor >>>> Reader in Sanskrit >>>> College of Asia and the Pacific >>>> The Australian National University >>>> WSC Website | McC Website >>>> >>>> Zoom: https://tinyurl.com/p01tig8k >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* INDOLOGY on behalf of >>>> Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 27, 2021 11:24 AM >>>> *To:* Nagaraj Paturi >>>> *Cc:* Indology >>>> *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] Rgveda complete study material and reverse >>>> word index >>>> >>>> and 3. from inside and unsympathetic and 4. from outside and >>>> sympathetic. >>>> >>>> This is what I mean. Getting these categories to do useful >>>> intellectual work is nearly impossible. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Nagaraj Paturi >>> >>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >>> >>> >>> Director, Indic Academy >>> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra >>> BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala >>> BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. >>> Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru >>> BoS Rashtram School of Public Leadership >>> Editor-in-Chief, International Journal of Studies in Public Leadership >>> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, >>> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. 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Name: Outlook-03p2n2w3.png Type: image/png Size: 32659 bytes Desc: not available URL: From John.Brockington at btinternet.com Tue Apr 27 15:31:55 2021 From: John.Brockington at btinternet.com (John Brockington) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 16:31:55 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?b?NXRoIHVwYWRhdGUgdG8gb3VyIFLEgW3EgXlh4bmH?= =?utf-8?q?a_archive_material?= Message-ID: Dear Colleagues, We are pleased to announce the fifth update of our material on the Oxford Research Archive, first deposited in January 2016; this update is identified as April 2021. We do so in order that it can be available for others to consult even in its present, unfinished state.It can be accessed at the same location > or you can find it via the Bodleian Libraries website, under ORA, by looking for either our surname or its title, "Development and spread of the R?ma narrative (pre-modern)". As before, there are additions, revisions and corrections to the material throughout.However, areas which have seen the greatest changes are: ?further re-organisation of folders: introducing a new folder, F. New Beginnings, which replaces the now deleted document within B. Bibliographic Inventory entitled 2A. Notes towards stage 3 (some of its contents have been transferred instead either to 2. V?lm?ki R?m?ya?a or to 3. MBh &Pur??as); ?Work by MB includes some new material, particularly on N Indian vernacular texts, in the ?Narrative Elements tabulations?, where the previous ?Cumulative? file was becoming so unwieldy that it has now been sub-divided into 3 parts for greater ease of access.Most other work is focused on stage 3 of the /VRm/, revising previous notes and preparing new material for an in-depth study (in preparation) of the /B?la /and /Uttara k???as/ themselves and their consequences for the rest of the /VRm/ text and narrative as a whole.Included is a detailed examination of 7,1-36 (Agastya?s post-victory narratives of the earlier exploits of the /r?k?asas/ and of Hanum?n?s supremacy), exploring the innovative image of gods, heroes and /r?k?asas/ alike now being presented by these new authors; ?Work by JLB includes considerablefurther additions to all the bibliographic sections of files within B.?Bibliographic Inventory, as well as the merging of the previously separate bibliographies for the /VR/ as a whole and for the third stage and other additions to and revision of 2. /V?lm?ki R?m?ya?a/.There have also been major additions to the data within 10. visual (India). // If you are aware of colleagues in other fields (for example Southeast Asian languages or visual culture) who might be interested, do please pass the information on to them ? and similarly, if any of you have access to suitable academic lists on which it could be posted, we would be grateful if you would send it to them. As always, we shall be grateful for any comments from anyone who has used the material. With all good wishes John and Mary John Brockington Fellow, Oxford Centre for Hindu Studies Emeritus Professor of Sanskrit, University of Edinburgh Vice President, International Association of Sanskrit Studies Mary Brockington Fellow, Oxford Centre for Hindu Studies Research Fellow, International Association of Sanskrit Studies -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Tue Apr 27 15:32:28 2021 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 08:32:28 -0700 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Rgveda complete study material and reverse word index In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Caley, Thanks for sharing your work. Best wishes, Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 7:59 AM Caley Smith via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear All, > > After waffling about a bit on whether to promote myself or not, I have > decided to go ahead and do so. In short, this is my etic method for > approaching the Vedic texts with an ultimate goal of using this method to > recover emic textuality subtly embedded in language, performative frames, > and formal organization. > > https://www.mdpi.com/2077-1444/10/6/394 > > Best, > Caley > > On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 10:04 AM Tyler Williams via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Dear colleagues, >> >> I think that Dominik and Andrew have effectively made the case that this >> insider/outsider distinction does no useful analytical work in our >> disciplines; I furthermore realize that few if any will be persuaded by >> polemics on this thread. >> >> Nevertheless, this insider/outsider rhetoric not only vitiates the >> productive atmosphere of collegial exchange that should characterize our >> profession (and that has thankfully characterized the Indology list in the >> past); it prevents us from doing rigorous historical as well as >> philological work, including into histories of racism in our fields. As >> such, the sooner we put it to rest the better. >> >> One colleague has opined: "Human products of culture having a >> culture-insider's perspective and culture outsider's perspective is an >> established professional understanding in the contemporary studies of >> culture world over. " This is patently false. Current understandings among >> anthropologists and cultural theorists, not to mention historians, >> consistently challenge this crude binary, arguing that in fact the notions >> of 'insider' and 'outsider' are constantly being made and remade through >> processes that are distinctly contingent, historical, and political. These >> scholars also point out that appeals to notions of 'insider' and 'outsider' >> necessarily mask internal heterogeneity, most often in the interest of >> consolidating the hegemony of those that seek to represent a supposedly >> 'authentic' 'insider' perspective. >> >> Consequently, such vulgar interpretations of the serious work of >> anti-colonial scholars like Said and Fanon only serve to carve out a domain >> of dubious authority for an imagined insider?and those pushing this idea >> these days invariably cast themselves as such an insider: a convenient >> assignment of authority to oneself. As Andrew pointed out, we are only too >> familiar with how this has been pursued over the past several years: >> individuals and organizations conferring on themselves the authority to >> decide which Indologist or scholar is an insider and which is an outsider. >> >> Apologies for the prolixity but having seen the intellectual damage that >> this crude binary does in our fields, I truly hope we can put it to rest >> and move on. As always, I am happy to point interested colleagues to >> relevant sources in anthropology, history, critical race theory, etcetera. >> >> Regards, >> Tyler Williams >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 12:14 AM Nagaraj Paturi via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >>> I already made it clear that the basis of division is not the location >>> or place of origin of the scholar. All vasudhaa during that categorization >>> is a single kutumba . >>> >>> Human products of culture having a culture-insider's perspective and >>> culture outsider's perspective is an established professional understanding >>> in the contemporary studies of culture world over. >>> >>> Labels like Euro-centric , Orientalist etc. to refer to biases in >>> observing , analysing , interpreting and representing cultures were all >>> part of professional contemporary international academics only. All these >>> categories of biases have inherent basis of culture-outsider's perspective >>> only. They were not specifically created for the context of Indology. >>> >>> Studies of culture in disciplines like Cultural Anthropology had to move >>> towards Cultural Relativism etc., methodologies had to move towards >>> pParticipant-Observation etc., to avoid these realized biases only. That is >>> what helped researchers and scholars in these fields to move from calling >>> the cultural practices of their focus 'superstitions' to a stage of making >>> sense of the culture-insider's sense. >>> >>> In all these endeavours of identifying and overcoming biases , nija of >>> the studied culture and para of the studied culture , nija-perspective of >>> the studied culture and para-perspective of the studied culture were >>> required to be recognized and analysed for a more and more tatastha , >>> nirmama understanding of the adhyeyya. >>> >>> In Vaada nijapaksha and parapaksha do not get effected by udaaracharita >>> and vice versa. >>> >>> We can work for our national universities, national bodies and national >>> interests in a way very much compatible with our udaaracharita and viewing >>> vasudhaa as ekakutumba only. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 7:31 AM McComas Taylor via INDOLOGY < >>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >>> >>>> aya? nija? paro veti ga?an? laghucetas?m | >>>> ud?racarit?n?? tu vasudhaiva ku?umbakam || >>>> >>>> 'Who is an insider and who an outside?' ask small-minded men. >>>> The whole world is one family for the noble-minded ones. >>>> >>>> No offence. >>>> >>>> McC >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *McComas Taylor* >>>> Associate Professor >>>> Reader in Sanskrit >>>> College of Asia and the Pacific >>>> The Australian National University >>>> WSC Website | McC Website >>>> >>>> Zoom: https://tinyurl.com/p01tig8k >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* INDOLOGY on behalf of >>>> Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 27, 2021 11:24 AM >>>> *To:* Nagaraj Paturi >>>> *Cc:* Indology >>>> *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] Rgveda complete study material and reverse >>>> word index >>>> >>>> and 3. from inside and unsympathetic and 4. from outside and >>>> sympathetic. >>>> >>>> This is what I mean. Getting these categories to do useful >>>> intellectual work is nearly impossible. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Nagaraj Paturi >>> >>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >>> >>> >>> Director, Indic Academy >>> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra >>> BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala >>> BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. >>> Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru >>> BoS Rashtram School of Public Leadership >>> Editor-in-Chief, International Journal of Studies in Public Leadership >>> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, >>> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Outlook-03p2n2w3.png Type: image/png Size: 32659 bytes Desc: not available URL: From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com Tue Apr 27 16:00:33 2021 From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 21:30:33 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Rgveda complete study material and reverse word index In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, there are many 'more nuanced' albeit ideologically/ politically oriented theories of 'insider-outsider' analyses. Some of them are new avatars of the Marxist analyses or new products of Marxist genealogy. Some are not. But these are not the mainstream of the mentioned academic disciplines or there is a lot more of these disciplines which is not limited to these politically / ideologically oriented schools of thought. They may claim a monopoly of authority over the 'right' insider-outsider analysis. In any case, these are definitely more nuanced than ' no insider-outsider at all'. I have nothing more to say in this thread. On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 7:33 PM Tyler Williams wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > I think that Dominik and Andrew have effectively made the case that this > insider/outsider distinction does no useful analytical work in our > disciplines; I furthermore realize that few if any will be persuaded by > polemics on this thread. > > Nevertheless, this insider/outsider rhetoric not only vitiates the > productive atmosphere of collegial exchange that should characterize our > profession (and that has thankfully characterized the Indology list in the > past); it prevents us from doing rigorous historical as well as > philological work, including into histories of racism in our fields. As > such, the sooner we put it to rest the better. > > One colleague has opined: "Human products of culture having a > culture-insider's perspective and culture outsider's perspective is an > established professional understanding in the contemporary studies of > culture world over. " This is patently false. Current understandings among > anthropologists and cultural theorists, not to mention historians, > consistently challenge this crude binary, arguing that in fact the notions > of 'insider' and 'outsider' are constantly being made and remade through > processes that are distinctly contingent, historical, and political. These > scholars also point out that appeals to notions of 'insider' and 'outsider' > necessarily mask internal heterogeneity, most often in the interest of > consolidating the hegemony of those that seek to represent a supposedly > 'authentic' 'insider' perspective. > > Consequently, such vulgar interpretations of the serious work of > anti-colonial scholars like Said and Fanon only serve to carve out a domain > of dubious authority for an imagined insider?and those pushing this idea > these days invariably cast themselves as such an insider: a convenient > assignment of authority to oneself. As Andrew pointed out, we are only too > familiar with how this has been pursued over the past several years: > individuals and organizations conferring on themselves the authority to > decide which Indologist or scholar is an insider and which is an outsider. > > Apologies for the prolixity but having seen the intellectual damage that > this crude binary does in our fields, I truly hope we can put it to rest > and move on. As always, I am happy to point interested colleagues to > relevant sources in anthropology, history, critical race theory, etcetera. > > Regards, > Tyler Williams > > > On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 12:14 AM Nagaraj Paturi via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> I already made it clear that the basis of division is not the location or >> place of origin of the scholar. All vasudhaa during that categorization is >> a single kutumba . >> >> Human products of culture having a culture-insider's perspective and >> culture outsider's perspective is an established professional understanding >> in the contemporary studies of culture world over. >> >> Labels like Euro-centric , Orientalist etc. to refer to biases in >> observing , analysing , interpreting and representing cultures were all >> part of professional contemporary international academics only. All these >> categories of biases have inherent basis of culture-outsider's perspective >> only. They were not specifically created for the context of Indology. >> >> Studies of culture in disciplines like Cultural Anthropology had to move >> towards Cultural Relativism etc., methodologies had to move towards >> pParticipant-Observation etc., to avoid these realized biases only. That is >> what helped researchers and scholars in these fields to move from calling >> the cultural practices of their focus 'superstitions' to a stage of making >> sense of the culture-insider's sense. >> >> In all these endeavours of identifying and overcoming biases , nija of >> the studied culture and para of the studied culture , nija-perspective of >> the studied culture and para-perspective of the studied culture were >> required to be recognized and analysed for a more and more tatastha , >> nirmama understanding of the adhyeyya. >> >> In Vaada nijapaksha and parapaksha do not get effected by udaaracharita >> and vice versa. >> >> We can work for our national universities, national bodies and national >> interests in a way very much compatible with our udaaracharita and viewing >> vasudhaa as ekakutumba only. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 7:31 AM McComas Taylor via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >>> aya? nija? paro veti ga?an? laghucetas?m | >>> ud?racarit?n?? tu vasudhaiva ku?umbakam || >>> >>> 'Who is an insider and who an outside?' ask small-minded men. >>> The whole world is one family for the noble-minded ones. >>> >>> No offence. >>> >>> McC >>> >>> >>> >>> *McComas Taylor* >>> Associate Professor >>> Reader in Sanskrit >>> College of Asia and the Pacific >>> The Australian National University >>> WSC Website | McC Website >>> >>> Zoom: https://tinyurl.com/p01tig8k >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* INDOLOGY on behalf of >>> Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 27, 2021 11:24 AM >>> *To:* Nagaraj Paturi >>> *Cc:* Indology >>> *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] Rgveda complete study material and reverse >>> word index >>> >>> and 3. from inside and unsympathetic and 4. from outside and sympathetic. >>> >>> This is what I mean. Getting these categories to do useful intellectual >>> work is nearly impossible. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>> >> >> >> -- >> Nagaraj Paturi >> >> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >> >> >> Director, Indic Academy >> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra >> BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala >> BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. >> Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru >> BoS Rashtram School of Public Leadership >> Editor-in-Chief, International Journal of Studies in Public Leadership >> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, >> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. 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From wujastyk at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 16:34:19 2021 From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 10:34:19 -0600 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Upcoming symposium on the Greater Magadha theory Message-ID: Greater Magadha: Evaluation and Retrospective An online symposium to discuss the Greater Magadha hypothesis of Johannes Bronkhorst May 6 - 9, 2021 ? University of Alberta (online) In his 2007 book *Greater Magadha *, Johannes Bronkhorst proposed a new theory for the historical formation of Indian culture in the mid-first millennium BCE. The theory proposed that a cultural and geographical area, Greater Magadha, was settled by an early wave of Indo-European speakers. A second wave of Indo-European speakers, carriers of Vedic culture, subsequently encountered the Greater Magadhans to the east and the resultant cultural meeting gave rise to the main features known in later Indian history. The Greater Magadha theory addresses many deep problems about the early formation of Indian culture that have long puzzled historians. It has been widely accepted, but has also given rise to serious criticism. This symposium will bring together some of the principal scholars who have engaged with the theory to discuss and retrospectively evaluate the theory just over a decade after it was proposed. This symposium is hosted by Prof. Dominik Wujastyk at the Department of History, Classics and Religion at the University of Alberta and with the financial support of the Canadian Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council. The symposium will be conducted online as a Zoom Webinar. Full details of the symposium and registration are available at this website: - http://eventleaf.com/GreaterMagadha Best wishes, Dominik Wujastyk -- Professor Dominik Wujastyk , Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity , Department of History and Classics , University of Alberta, Canada . 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Will it be recorded and made available for those of us unable to participate at the time it takes place? best, Matthew Matthew Kapstein Directeur d'?tudes, ?m?rite Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, Paris Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, The University of Chicago ________________________________ From: INDOLOGY on behalf of Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 11:34 AM To: Indology Subject: [INDOLOGY] Upcoming symposium on the Greater Magadha theory Greater Magadha: Evaluation and Retrospective An online symposium to discuss the Greater Magadha hypothesis of Johannes Bronkhorst May 6 - 9, 2021 ? University of Alberta (online) In his 2007 book Greater Magadha, Johannes Bronkhorst proposed a new theory for the historical formation of Indian culture in the mid-first millennium BCE. The theory proposed that a cultural and geographical area, Greater Magadha, was settled by an early wave of Indo-European speakers. A second wave of Indo-European speakers, carriers of Vedic culture, subsequently encountered the Greater Magadhans to the east and the resultant cultural meeting gave rise to the main features known in later Indian history. The Greater Magadha theory addresses many deep problems about the early formation of Indian culture that have long puzzled historians. It has been widely accepted, but has also given rise to serious criticism. This symposium will bring together some of the principal scholars who have engaged with the theory to discuss and retrospectively evaluate the theory just over a decade after it was proposed. This symposium is hosted by Prof. Dominik Wujastyk at the Department of History, Classics and Religion at the University of Alberta and with the financial support of the Canadian Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council. The symposium will be conducted online as a Zoom Webinar. Full details of the symposium and registration are available at this website: * http://eventleaf.com/GreaterMagadha Best wishes, Dominik Wujastyk -- Professor Dominik Wujastyk , Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity , Department of History and Classics , University of Alberta, Canada . South Asia at the U of A: sas.ualberta.ca SSHRC research: The Su?ruta Project -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wujastyk at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 17:34:04 2021 From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 11:34:04 -0600 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Upcoming symposium on the Greater Magadha theory In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, if the participants give their permission. I'm still asking them. I will make a statement about this on the symposium website. On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 at 10:41, Matthew Kapstein wrote: > Thanks Dominik, > > This is most interesting. Will it be recorded and made available for those > of us unable to participate at the time it takes place? > > best, > Matthew > > Matthew Kapstein > Directeur d'?tudes, ?m?rite > Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, Paris > > Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, > The University of Chicago > ------------------------------ > *From:* INDOLOGY on behalf of > Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 28, 2021 11:34 AM > *To:* Indology > *Subject:* [INDOLOGY] Upcoming symposium on the Greater Magadha theory > > Greater Magadha: Evaluation and Retrospective > An online symposium to discuss the Greater Magadha hypothesis of Johannes > Bronkhorst > May 6 - 9, 2021 ? University of Alberta (online) > > In his 2007 book *Greater Magadha > *, > Johannes Bronkhorst proposed a new theory for the historical formation of > Indian culture in the mid-first millennium BCE. The theory proposed that a > cultural and geographical area, Greater Magadha, was settled by an early > wave of Indo-European speakers. A second wave of Indo-European speakers, > carriers of Vedic culture, subsequently encountered the Greater Magadhans > to the east and the resultant cultural meeting gave rise to the main > features known in later Indian history. The Greater Magadha theory > addresses many deep problems about the early formation of Indian culture > that have long puzzled historians. It has been widely accepted, but has > also given rise to serious criticism. This symposium will bring together > some of the principal scholars who have engaged with the theory to discuss > and retrospectively evaluate the theory just over a decade after it was > proposed. > > This symposium is hosted by Prof. Dominik Wujastyk at the Department of > History, Classics and Religion at the University of Alberta and with the > financial support of the Canadian Social Sciences and Humanities Research > Council. > > The symposium will be conducted online as a Zoom Webinar. > > Full details of the symposium and registration are available at this > website: > > - http://eventleaf.com/GreaterMagadha > > Best wishes, > Dominik Wujastyk > > > -- > Professor Dominik Wujastyk > > , > > Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity > , > > Department of History and Classics > > , > University of Alberta, Canada > . > > > South Asia at the U of A: > > sas.ualberta.ca > > SSHRC research: The Su?ruta Project > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.jurewicz at uw.edu.pl Wed Apr 28 18:26:36 2021 From: j.jurewicz at uw.edu.pl (Joanna Jurewicz) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 20:26:36 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Upcoming symposium on the Greater Magadha theory In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well, thank you, but I feel horribly humiliated. If someone criticized my work, my methodology, if someone showed that I am talking nonsense, I do not understand Sanskrit, whatever, I would understand why I am not with you - with you, people, born beyond the western border of the Oder. I have written plenty of papers, two books on the Veda, ,the third is about to be published (my paper on conceptual connections between the Veda and the Buddhism is one of the most cited, positively), trying to do that in English which is not my mother tongue in order to submit myself to the critics, to discussions, moreover, I can see that it makes sense what I do... and I could not do without cognitive linguistics which is difficult and I devoted much time to learn it too. Sorry, Dominik, I am too old not to talk about it. In two years I will be sixty. Now I have nothing to lose. But as I told you, I feel horribly humiliated. Do your duty and I will do mine. --- Prof. dr hab. Joanna Jurewicz Katedra Azji Po?udniowej /Chair of South Asia Studies Wydzia? Orientalistyczny / Faculty of Oriental Studies Uniwersytet Warszawski /University of Warsaw ul. Krakowskie Przedmie?cie 26/28 00-927 Warszawa , Poland Department of Linguistics and Modern Languages College of Human Sciences UNISA Pretoria, RSA Member of Academia Europaea https://uw.academia.edu/JoannaJurewicz ?r., 28 kwi 2021 o 19:35 Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> napisa?(a): > Yes, if the participants give their permission. I'm still asking them. I > will make a statement about this on the symposium website. > > On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 at 10:41, Matthew Kapstein > wrote: > >> Thanks Dominik, >> >> This is most interesting. Will it be recorded and made available for >> those of us unable to participate at the time it takes place? >> >> best, >> Matthew >> >> Matthew Kapstein >> Directeur d'?tudes, ?m?rite >> Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, Paris >> >> Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, >> The University of Chicago >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* INDOLOGY on behalf of >> Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY >> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 28, 2021 11:34 AM >> *To:* Indology >> *Subject:* [INDOLOGY] Upcoming symposium on the Greater Magadha theory >> >> Greater Magadha: Evaluation and Retrospective >> An online symposium to discuss the Greater Magadha hypothesis of Johannes >> Bronkhorst >> May 6 - 9, 2021 ? University of Alberta (online) >> >> In his 2007 book *Greater Magadha >> *, >> Johannes Bronkhorst proposed a new theory for the historical formation of >> Indian culture in the mid-first millennium BCE. The theory proposed that a >> cultural and geographical area, Greater Magadha, was settled by an early >> wave of Indo-European speakers. A second wave of Indo-European speakers, >> carriers of Vedic culture, subsequently encountered the Greater Magadhans >> to the east and the resultant cultural meeting gave rise to the main >> features known in later Indian history. The Greater Magadha theory >> addresses many deep problems about the early formation of Indian culture >> that have long puzzled historians. It has been widely accepted, but has >> also given rise to serious criticism. This symposium will bring together >> some of the principal scholars who have engaged with the theory to discuss >> and retrospectively evaluate the theory just over a decade after it was >> proposed. >> >> This symposium is hosted by Prof. Dominik Wujastyk at the Department of >> History, Classics and Religion at the University of Alberta and with the >> financial support of the Canadian Social Sciences and Humanities Research >> Council. >> >> The symposium will be conducted online as a Zoom Webinar. >> >> Full details of the symposium and registration are available at this >> website: >> >> - http://eventleaf.com/GreaterMagadha >> >> Best wishes, >> Dominik Wujastyk >> >> >> -- >> Professor Dominik Wujastyk >> >> , >> >> Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity >> , >> >> Department of History and Classics >> >> , >> University of Alberta, Canada >> . >> >> >> South Asia at the U of A: >> >> sas.ualberta.ca >> >> SSHRC research: The Su?ruta Project >> > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.jurewicz at uw.edu.pl Wed Apr 28 18:29:10 2021 From: j.jurewicz at uw.edu.pl (Joanna Jurewicz) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 20:29:10 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Upcoming symposium on the Greater Magadha theory In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I apologise, by mistake I sent the letter to Dominik to the whole list. But maybe it was a felix culpa. Joanna --- Prof. dr hab. Joanna Jurewicz Katedra Azji Po?udniowej /Chair of South Asia Studies Wydzia? Orientalistyczny / Faculty of Oriental Studies Uniwersytet Warszawski /University of Warsaw ul. Krakowskie Przedmie?cie 26/28 00-927 Warszawa , Poland Department of Linguistics and Modern Languages College of Human Sciences UNISA Pretoria, RSA Member of Academia Europaea https://uw.academia.edu/JoannaJurewicz ?r., 28 kwi 2021 o 20:26 Joanna Jurewicz napisa?(a): > Well, thank you, but I feel horribly humiliated. > > If someone criticized my work, my methodology, if someone showed that I > am talking nonsense, I do not understand Sanskrit, whatever, I would > understand why I am not with you - with you, people, born beyond > the western border of the Oder. I have written plenty of papers, two books > on the Veda, ,the third is about to be published (my paper on conceptual > connections between the Veda and the Buddhism is one of the most cited, > positively), trying to do that in English which is not my mother tongue in > order to submit myself to the critics, to discussions, moreover, I can see > that it makes sense what I do... and I could not do without cognitive > linguistics which is difficult and I devoted much time to learn it too. > > Sorry, Dominik, I am too old not to talk about it. In two years I will be > sixty. Now I have nothing to lose. > > But as I told you, I feel horribly humiliated. Do your duty and I will do > mine. > > > > > > --- > > Prof. dr hab. Joanna Jurewicz > > Katedra Azji Po?udniowej /Chair of South Asia Studies > > Wydzia? Orientalistyczny / Faculty of Oriental Studies > > Uniwersytet Warszawski /University of Warsaw > > ul. Krakowskie Przedmie?cie 26/28 > > 00-927 Warszawa , Poland > > Department of Linguistics and Modern Languages > > College of Human Sciences > > UNISA > > Pretoria, RSA > > Member of Academia Europaea > > https://uw.academia.edu/JoannaJurewicz > > > ?r., 28 kwi 2021 o 19:35 Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> napisa?(a): > >> Yes, if the participants give their permission. I'm still asking them. >> I will make a statement about this on the symposium website. >> >> On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 at 10:41, Matthew Kapstein >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Dominik, >>> >>> This is most interesting. Will it be recorded and made available for >>> those of us unable to participate at the time it takes place? >>> >>> best, >>> Matthew >>> >>> Matthew Kapstein >>> Directeur d'?tudes, ?m?rite >>> Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, Paris >>> >>> Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, >>> The University of Chicago >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* INDOLOGY on behalf of >>> Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 28, 2021 11:34 AM >>> *To:* Indology >>> *Subject:* [INDOLOGY] Upcoming symposium on the Greater Magadha theory >>> >>> Greater Magadha: Evaluation and Retrospective >>> An online symposium to discuss the Greater Magadha hypothesis of >>> Johannes Bronkhorst >>> May 6 - 9, 2021 ? University of Alberta (online) >>> >>> In his 2007 book *Greater Magadha >>> *, >>> Johannes Bronkhorst proposed a new theory for the historical formation of >>> Indian culture in the mid-first millennium BCE. The theory proposed that a >>> cultural and geographical area, Greater Magadha, was settled by an early >>> wave of Indo-European speakers. A second wave of Indo-European speakers, >>> carriers of Vedic culture, subsequently encountered the Greater Magadhans >>> to the east and the resultant cultural meeting gave rise to the main >>> features known in later Indian history. The Greater Magadha theory >>> addresses many deep problems about the early formation of Indian culture >>> that have long puzzled historians. It has been widely accepted, but has >>> also given rise to serious criticism. This symposium will bring together >>> some of the principal scholars who have engaged with the theory to discuss >>> and retrospectively evaluate the theory just over a decade after it was >>> proposed. >>> >>> This symposium is hosted by Prof. Dominik Wujastyk at the Department of >>> History, Classics and Religion at the University of Alberta and with the >>> financial support of the Canadian Social Sciences and Humanities Research >>> Council. >>> >>> The symposium will be conducted online as a Zoom Webinar. >>> >>> Full details of the symposium and registration are available at this >>> website: >>> >>> - http://eventleaf.com/GreaterMagadha >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> Dominik Wujastyk >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Professor Dominik Wujastyk >>> >>> , >>> >>> Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity >>> , >>> >>> Department of History and Classics >>> >>> , >>> University of Alberta, Canada >>> . >>> >>> >>> South Asia at the U of A: >>> >>> sas.ualberta.ca >>> >>> SSHRC research: The Su?ruta Project >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From diegoloukota at ucla.edu Wed Apr 28 19:13:59 2021 From: diegoloukota at ucla.edu (DIEGO LOUKOTA SANCLEMENTE) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 14:13:59 -0500 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Upcoming symposium on the Greater Magadha theory In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear all, In the first place, I would like to say that I am excited about the seminar, for which I am already registered, and that I greatly look forward to it. On the other hand, I find the 10:1 ratio of men to women among the programmed speakers troubling since there is no dearth of female scholars in several fields that would have had much to say. Certainly Prof. Jurewicz would have been an ideal speaker for the seminar given her field of expertise and experience. I do understand how we often, when organizing events, first appeal to our immediate community and acquaintances, but I do want to encourage the field to pay closer attention to how we configure our projects, events, and initiatives. *namaskaromi,* Diego On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 1:26 PM Joanna Jurewicz wrote: > Well, thank you, but I feel horribly humiliated. > > If someone criticized my work, my methodology, if someone showed that I > am talking nonsense, I do not understand Sanskrit, whatever, I would > understand why I am not with you - with you, people, born beyond > the western border of the Oder. I have written plenty of papers, two books > on the Veda, ,the third is about to be published (my paper on conceptual > connections between the Veda and the Buddhism is one of the most cited, > positively), trying to do that in English which is not my mother tongue in > order to submit myself to the critics, to discussions, moreover, I can see > that it makes sense what I do... and I could not do without cognitive > linguistics which is difficult and I devoted much time to learn it too. > > Sorry, Dominik, I am too old not to talk about it. In two years I will be > sixty. Now I have nothing to lose. > > But as I told you, I feel horribly humiliated. Do your duty and I will do > mine. > > > > > > --- > > Prof. dr hab. Joanna Jurewicz > > Katedra Azji Po?udniowej /Chair of South Asia Studies > > Wydzia? Orientalistyczny / Faculty of Oriental Studies > > Uniwersytet Warszawski /University of Warsaw > > ul. Krakowskie Przedmie?cie 26/28 > > 00-927 Warszawa , Poland > > Department of Linguistics and Modern Languages > > College of Human Sciences > > UNISA > > Pretoria, RSA > > Member of Academia Europaea > > https://uw.academia.edu/JoannaJurewicz > > > ?r., 28 kwi 2021 o 19:35 Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> napisa?(a): > >> Yes, if the participants give their permission. I'm still asking them. >> I will make a statement about this on the symposium website. >> >> On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 at 10:41, Matthew Kapstein >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Dominik, >>> >>> This is most interesting. Will it be recorded and made available for >>> those of us unable to participate at the time it takes place? >>> >>> best, >>> Matthew >>> >>> Matthew Kapstein >>> Directeur d'?tudes, ?m?rite >>> Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, Paris >>> >>> Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, >>> The University of Chicago >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* INDOLOGY on behalf of >>> Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 28, 2021 11:34 AM >>> *To:* Indology >>> *Subject:* [INDOLOGY] Upcoming symposium on the Greater Magadha theory >>> >>> Greater Magadha: Evaluation and Retrospective >>> An online symposium to discuss the Greater Magadha hypothesis of >>> Johannes Bronkhorst >>> May 6 - 9, 2021 ? University of Alberta (online) >>> >>> In his 2007 book *Greater Magadha >>> *, >>> Johannes Bronkhorst proposed a new theory for the historical formation of >>> Indian culture in the mid-first millennium BCE. The theory proposed that a >>> cultural and geographical area, Greater Magadha, was settled by an early >>> wave of Indo-European speakers. A second wave of Indo-European speakers, >>> carriers of Vedic culture, subsequently encountered the Greater Magadhans >>> to the east and the resultant cultural meeting gave rise to the main >>> features known in later Indian history. The Greater Magadha theory >>> addresses many deep problems about the early formation of Indian culture >>> that have long puzzled historians. It has been widely accepted, but has >>> also given rise to serious criticism. This symposium will bring together >>> some of the principal scholars who have engaged with the theory to discuss >>> and retrospectively evaluate the theory just over a decade after it was >>> proposed. >>> >>> This symposium is hosted by Prof. Dominik Wujastyk at the Department of >>> History, Classics and Religion at the University of Alberta and with the >>> financial support of the Canadian Social Sciences and Humanities Research >>> Council. >>> >>> The symposium will be conducted online as a Zoom Webinar. >>> >>> Full details of the symposium and registration are available at this >>> website: >>> >>> - http://eventleaf.com/GreaterMagadha >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> Dominik Wujastyk >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Professor Dominik Wujastyk >>> >>> , >>> >>> Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity >>> , >>> >>> Department of History and Classics >>> >>> , >>> University of Alberta, Canada >>> . >>> >>> >>> South Asia at the U of A: >>> >>> sas.ualberta.ca >>> >>> SSHRC research: The Su?ruta Project >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From huesken at uni-heidelberg.de Wed Apr 28 19:24:30 2021 From: huesken at uni-heidelberg.de (Huesken, Prof. Dr. Ute) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 19:24:30 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Upcoming symposium on the Greater Magadha theory In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1106BA43-2009-41C6-951F-F48521A3BF49@uni-heidelberg.de> Dear Diego, Thank you for speaking up, urging organizers to be more aware of the implications of the decisions they take. It?s an important forst step to raise and maintain awareness. Best Ute Huesken -- Prof. Dr. Ute H?sken Vice Dean, Faculty of Arts Head of Department, Cultural and Religious History of South Asia Heidelberg University Vo?strasse 2, Building 4130, Room 130.02.15 69115 Heidelberg Germany Phone: +49-6221-54 15261 Email: huesken at uni-heidelberg.de From: INDOLOGY on behalf of DIEGO LOUKOTA SANCLEMENTE Date: Wednesday, 28. April 2021 at 21:14 To: Indology Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Upcoming symposium on the Greater Magadha theory Dear all, In the first place, I would like to say that I am excited about the seminar, for which I am already registered, and that I greatly look forward to it. On the other hand, I find the 10:1 ratio of men to women among the programmed speakers troubling since there is no dearth of female scholars in several fields that would have had much to say. Certainly Prof. Jurewicz would have been an ideal speaker for the seminar given her field of expertise and experience. I do understand how we often, when organizing events, first appeal to our immediate community and acquaintances, but I do want to encourage the field to pay closer attention to how we configure our projects, events, and initiatives. namaskaromi, Diego On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 1:26 PM Joanna Jurewicz > wrote: Well, thank you, but I feel horribly humiliated. If someone criticized my work, my methodology, if someone showed that I am talking nonsense, I do not understand Sanskrit, whatever, I would understand why I am not with you - with you, people, born beyond the western border of the Oder. I have written plenty of papers, two books on the Veda, ,the third is about to be published (my paper on conceptual connections between the Veda and the Buddhism is one of the most cited, positively), trying to do that in English which is not my mother tongue in order to submit myself to the critics, to discussions, moreover, I can see that it makes sense what I do... and I could not do without cognitive linguistics which is difficult and I devoted much time to learn it too. Sorry, Dominik, I am too old not to talk about it. In two years I will be sixty. Now I have nothing to lose. But as I told you, I feel horribly humiliated. Do your duty and I will do mine. --- Prof. dr hab. Joanna Jurewicz Katedra Azji Po?udniowej /Chair of South Asia Studies Wydzia? Orientalistyczny / Faculty of Oriental Studies Uniwersytet Warszawski /University of Warsaw ul. Krakowskie Przedmie?cie 26/28 00-927 Warszawa , Poland Department of Linguistics and Modern Languages College of Human Sciences UNISA Pretoria, RSA Member of Academia Europaea https://uw.academia.edu/JoannaJurewicz ?r., 28 kwi 2021 o 19:35 Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY > napisa?(a): Yes, if the participants give their permission. I'm still asking them. I will make a statement about this on the symposium website. On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 at 10:41, Matthew Kapstein > wrote: Thanks Dominik, This is most interesting. Will it be recorded and made available for those of us unable to participate at the time it takes place? best, Matthew Matthew Kapstein Directeur d'?tudes, ?m?rite Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, Paris Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, The University of Chicago ________________________________ From: INDOLOGY > on behalf of Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 11:34 AM To: Indology > Subject: [INDOLOGY] Upcoming symposium on the Greater Magadha theory Greater Magadha: Evaluation and Retrospective An online symposium to discuss the Greater Magadha hypothesis of Johannes Bronkhorst May 6 - 9, 2021 ? University of Alberta (online) In his 2007 book Greater Magadha, Johannes Bronkhorst proposed a new theory for the historical formation of Indian culture in the mid-first millennium BCE. The theory proposed that a cultural and geographical area, Greater Magadha, was settled by an early wave of Indo-European speakers. A second wave of Indo-European speakers, carriers of Vedic culture, subsequently encountered the Greater Magadhans to the east and the resultant cultural meeting gave rise to the main features known in later Indian history. The Greater Magadha theory addresses many deep problems about the early formation of Indian culture that have long puzzled historians. It has been widely accepted, but has also given rise to serious criticism. This symposium will bring together some of the principal scholars who have engaged with the theory to discuss and retrospectively evaluate the theory just over a decade after it was proposed. This symposium is hosted by Prof. Dominik Wujastyk at the Department of History, Classics and Religion at the University of Alberta and with the financial support of the Canadian Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council. The symposium will be conducted online as a Zoom Webinar. Full details of the symposium and registration are available at this website: * http://eventleaf.com/GreaterMagadha Best wishes, Dominik Wujastyk -- Professor Dominik Wujastyk , Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity , Department of History and Classics , University of Alberta, Canada . South Asia at the U of A: sas.ualberta.ca SSHRC research: The Su?ruta Project _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aleksandar.uskokov at yale.edu Wed Apr 28 19:24:53 2021 From: aleksandar.uskokov at yale.edu (Uskokov, Aleksandar) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 19:24:53 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Upcoming symposium on the Greater Magadha theory In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Dear all, I would like to second Diego's observations. Surely we as a discipline must do better in terms of gender representation in general, and particularly at such prominent events. Best wishes Aleksandar Aleksandar Uskokov Lector in Sanskrit South Asian Studies Council, Yale University 203-432-1972 | aleksandar.uskokov at yale.edu ________________________________ From: INDOLOGY on behalf of DIEGO LOUKOTA SANCLEMENTE Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 3:13 PM To: Indology Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Upcoming symposium on the Greater Magadha theory Dear all, In the first place, I would like to say that I am excited about the seminar, for which I am already registered, and that I greatly look forward to it. On the other hand, I find the 10:1 ratio of men to women among the programmed speakers troubling since there is no dearth of female scholars in several fields that would have had much to say. Certainly Prof. Jurewicz would have been an ideal speaker for the seminar given her field of expertise and experience. I do understand how we often, when organizing events, first appeal to our immediate community and acquaintances, but I do want to encourage the field to pay closer attention to how we configure our projects, events, and initiatives. namaskaromi, Diego On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 1:26 PM Joanna Jurewicz > wrote: Well, thank you, but I feel horribly humiliated. If someone criticized my work, my methodology, if someone showed that I am talking nonsense, I do not understand Sanskrit, whatever, I would understand why I am not with you - with you, people, born beyond the western border of the Oder. I have written plenty of papers, two books on the Veda, ,the third is about to be published (my paper on conceptual connections between the Veda and the Buddhism is one of the most cited, positively), trying to do that in English which is not my mother tongue in order to submit myself to the critics, to discussions, moreover, I can see that it makes sense what I do... and I could not do without cognitive linguistics which is difficult and I devoted much time to learn it too. Sorry, Dominik, I am too old not to talk about it. In two years I will be sixty. Now I have nothing to lose. But as I told you, I feel horribly humiliated. Do your duty and I will do mine. --- Prof. dr hab. Joanna Jurewicz Katedra Azji Po?udniowej /Chair of South Asia Studies Wydzia? Orientalistyczny / Faculty of Oriental Studies Uniwersytet Warszawski /University of Warsaw ul. Krakowskie Przedmie?cie 26/28 00-927 Warszawa , Poland Department of Linguistics and Modern Languages College of Human Sciences UNISA Pretoria, RSA Member of Academia Europaea https://uw.academia.edu/JoannaJurewicz ?r., 28 kwi 2021 o 19:35 Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY > napisa?(a): Yes, if the participants give their permission. I'm still asking them. I will make a statement about this on the symposium website. On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 at 10:41, Matthew Kapstein > wrote: Thanks Dominik, This is most interesting. Will it be recorded and made available for those of us unable to participate at the time it takes place? best, Matthew Matthew Kapstein Directeur d'?tudes, ?m?rite Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, Paris Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, The University of Chicago ________________________________ From: INDOLOGY > on behalf of Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 11:34 AM To: Indology > Subject: [INDOLOGY] Upcoming symposium on the Greater Magadha theory Greater Magadha: Evaluation and Retrospective An online symposium to discuss the Greater Magadha hypothesis of Johannes Bronkhorst May 6 - 9, 2021 ? University of Alberta (online) In his 2007 book Greater Magadha, Johannes Bronkhorst proposed a new theory for the historical formation of Indian culture in the mid-first millennium BCE. The theory proposed that a cultural and geographical area, Greater Magadha, was settled by an early wave of Indo-European speakers. A second wave of Indo-European speakers, carriers of Vedic culture, subsequently encountered the Greater Magadhans to the east and the resultant cultural meeting gave rise to the main features known in later Indian history. The Greater Magadha theory addresses many deep problems about the early formation of Indian culture that have long puzzled historians. It has been widely accepted, but has also given rise to serious criticism. This symposium will bring together some of the principal scholars who have engaged with the theory to discuss and retrospectively evaluate the theory just over a decade after it was proposed. This symposium is hosted by Prof. Dominik Wujastyk at the Department of History, Classics and Religion at the University of Alberta and with the financial support of the Canadian Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council. The symposium will be conducted online as a Zoom Webinar. Full details of the symposium and registration are available at this website: * http://eventleaf.com/GreaterMagadha Best wishes, Dominik Wujastyk -- Professor Dominik Wujastyk , Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity , Department of History and Classics , University of Alberta, Canada . South Asia at the U of A: sas.ualberta.ca SSHRC research: The Su?ruta Project _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best wishes, Dominik On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 at 14:54, Dominik Wujastyk wrote: > There's a glitch in registrations, I'm afraid. I'm talking to Eventleaf > about this right now, and hope to have it solved shortly. But in the > meantime, the Webinar link and agenda are both on the front page of the symposium > website , so registration isn't > essential. > > I apologize for the difficulties! > > Best, > Dominik > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wujastyk at gmail.com Wed Apr 28 21:27:50 2021 From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 15:27:50 -0600 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Upcoming symposium on the Greater Magadha theory In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear friends, I take the points that have been made here. Here's a word about how the thing was planned. I started out with a very limited budget in 2019 and planned the conference to take place in April last year, as a necessarily small meeting held physically here in Edmonton, where I work. Financially, I could only invite a very few international people, or even travellers from other parts of Canada (which is huge). As a matter of priority, I reached out to several historians in India, including two lady professors, but to my regret they all said no. Then I had to cancel everything because of the pandemic. Now, doing it online, I'm basically working with the people who kindly agreed back at the beginning. But now, precisely because it has become non-local, it doesn't look like a small, local meeting any more. But against that, the time-zone problem means that we can only meet for a few hours each day, so it is not feasible to enlarge the symposium. Interesting lessons. There are lots of people who have thought about the GM theory. A real factor is that I am simply not very well informed about everyone who has thought a lot about GM. I was initially guided by people who had published prominent book reviews of the GM book and who responded positively to my enquiries in 2019 and who were able to travel to Edmonton. This symposium is just one meeting. GM is a major theory and deserves more discussion than just this symposium. I hope other colleagues can organize something more comprehensive and inclusive, in the future. Best, Dominik -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best, Christian Ferstl Am 27.07.2020 10:27, schrieb Christophe Vielle via INDOLOGY: >> D?but du message r?exp?di? : >> >> If anyone is interested, Sambhashana Sandesha Sanskrit Magazine for >> Apr, May, June and July PDF are available on their website for free: > > https://sambhashanasandesha.in > > ??????????????????? > Christophe Vielle [1] > Louvain-la-Neuve > > > > Links: > ------ > [1] https://uclouvain.be/en/directories/christophe.vielle > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options > or unsubscribe) From krishnaprasadah.g at gmail.com Thu Apr 29 07:36:19 2021 From: krishnaprasadah.g at gmail.com (Krishnaprasad G) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2021 13:06:19 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Best(critical) edition of Buddha Charita Bhoja Prabandha etc Message-ID: Dear all May I know the best editions (or critical) of the following books please Bhojaprabandha Buddha Charita Shukasaptati Vetalapanchavimsati Thanks Yours sincerely Krishna Prasad -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 10:47 PM Christian Ferstl via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear friends and colleagues, > > do you know what the problem is with the Sambhashana Sandesha Sanskrit > Magazine website which is currently inaccessible? > https://sambhashanasandesha.in/ > I'd be interested in the archive, especially in the ??????? articles. > > Best, > Christian Ferstl > > Am 27.07.2020 10:27, schrieb Christophe Vielle via INDOLOGY: > >> D?but du message r?exp?di? : > >> > >> If anyone is interested, Sambhashana Sandesha Sanskrit Magazine for > >> Apr, May, June and July PDF are available on their website for free: > > > > https://sambhashanasandesha.in > > > > ??????????????????? > > Christophe Vielle [1] > > Louvain-la-Neuve > > > > > > > > Links: > > ------ > > [1] https://uclouvain.be/en/directories/christophe.vielle > > _______________________________________________ > > INDOLOGY mailing list > > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > > committee) > > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options > > or unsubscribe) > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From disimone at alumni.stanford.edu Fri Apr 30 13:38:46 2021 From: disimone at alumni.stanford.edu (Charles DiSimone) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2021 15:38:46 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?q?=22One_Flew_Over_the_Nest=3A_an_Externalist?= =?utf-8?b?IEFtb25nIFByYW1hzIRuzKNhdmHMhGRpbnMiLCBTZXJlbmEgU2FjY29u?= =?utf-8?q?e=2C_May_4_2021?= Message-ID: With all apologies for cross posting, this may be of interest to some members of the list. Dear Friends, below please find information on the seventh lecture in the Ghent Center for Buddhist Studies Spring Lecture Series (Permanent Training in Buddhist Studies (PTBS)) generously sponsored by the Tianzhu Foundation. Serena Saccone, Associate Professor at the University of Naples, ?L?Orientale?, will give a lecture on May 04, 2021 at 19.00 Belgian time. All lectures in this series will be held remotely over Zoom. Interested parties are welcome to attend the series or individual talks. To get the Zoom link, please register by writing to CBS at ugent.be *by the morning of May 04*. The link will be sent out the day of the talk. With my kind regards, Charles DiSimone *One Flew Over the Nest: an Externalist Among Prama?n?ava?dins* *Serena Saccone* * University of Naples, ?L?Orientale?* S?ubhagupta (8th cent.) is a key figure within the Buddhist tradition of logic and epistemology (*prama?n?a*). Most of his works are in fact a systematization, as well as elaboration, of the doctrines and arguments found in Dharmaki?rti?s writings. In this respect, he shares views with (and perhaps also directly influenced) his fellow Buddhist contemporaries, S?a?ntaraks?ita and Kamalas?i?la, who represent the mainstream tradition in the 8th century. On the other hand, as seen in his magnum opus, the ?Verses on the Demonstration of External Objects? (* *Ba?hya?rthasiddhika?rika?*), S?ubhagupta significantly deviates from that mainstream tradition on some crucial tenets by advocating the existence of external objects and the illogicality that cognitions bear their objects? images (*nira?ka?rava?da*). The main point of contention appears to be (to some extent) the theory of self-awareness (*svasam?vedana*) of cognitions. In this lecture, I shall present the pivotal elements of that internal debate, which, arguably, made S?ubhagupta the Buddhist externalist ( *bahirarthava?din*) *par excellence* for that tradition. *Bio* *Serena Saccone *is an Associate Professor at the University of Naples, ?L?Orientale.? She holds a PhD in Indology and Tibetology from the University of Turin and was a research fellow at the Austrian Academy of Sciences from 2015 to 2021. Her main area of research is the intellectual history of Buddhism, focusing on South Asian authors from the early medieval period, with a specific interest in epistemology, logic and soteriology, as well as their interconnections. Saccone?s monograph, ?On the Nature of Things? (2018), concerns the internal Buddhist debate on cognitions and their object in the 8th century. Her second book, ?Tantra and Prama?n?a. Studies in the Sa?raman?jari?? (2021), co-authored with Pe?ter-Da?niel Sza?nto?, deals with the interrelationship between Tantric Buddhism and the Digna?ga-Dharmaki?rtian tradition of logic and epistemology. Dr. Charles DiSimone Department of Languages and Cultures Ghent University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Fri Apr 30 13:56:39 2021 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2021 06:56:39 -0700 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?q?=22One_Flew_Over_the_Nest=3A_an_Externalist?= =?utf-8?b?IEFtb25nIFByYW1hzIRuzKNhdmHMhGRpbnMiLCBTZXJlbmEgU2FjY29u?= =?utf-8?q?e=2C_May_4_2021?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I hope this lecture will be recorded and a link for the recording shared on Indology. With best wishes, Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 6:51 AM Charles DiSimone via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > With all apologies for cross posting, this may be of interest to some > members of the list. > > Dear Friends, > > below please find information on the seventh lecture in the Ghent Center > for Buddhist Studies Spring Lecture > Series (Permanent Training in Buddhist Studies (PTBS)) generously sponsored > by the Tianzhu Foundation. Serena Saccone, Associate Professor at the > University of Naples, ?L?Orientale?, will give a lecture on May 04, 2021 at > 19.00 Belgian time. All lectures in this series will be held remotely over > Zoom. Interested parties are welcome to attend the series or individual > talks. To get the Zoom link, please register by writing to CBS at ugent.be *by > the morning of May 04*. The link will be sent out the day of the talk. > > With my kind regards, > > Charles DiSimone > > *One Flew Over the Nest: an Externalist Among Prama?n?ava?dins* > > *Serena Saccone* > * University of Naples, ?L?Orientale?* > > S?ubhagupta (8th cent.) is a key figure within the Buddhist tradition of > logic and epistemology (*prama?n?a*). Most of his works are in fact a > systematization, as well as elaboration, of the doctrines and arguments > found in Dharmaki?rti?s writings. In this respect, he shares views > with (and perhaps also directly influenced) his fellow Buddhist > contemporaries, S?a?ntaraks?ita and Kamalas?i?la, who represent the > mainstream tradition in the 8th century. On the other hand, as seen in > his magnum opus, the ?Verses on the Demonstration of External Objects? (* > *Ba?hya?rthasiddhika?rika?*), S?ubhagupta significantly deviates from > that mainstream tradition on some crucial tenets by advocating the > existence of external objects and the illogicality that cognitions bear > their objects? images (*nira?ka?rava?da*). The main point of contention > appears to be (to some extent) the theory of self-awareness ( > *svasam?vedana*) of cognitions. In this lecture, I shall present the > pivotal elements of that internal debate, which, arguably, made S?ubhagupta > the Buddhist externalist (*bahirarthava?din*) *par excellence* for that > tradition. > > *Bio* > > *Serena Saccone *is an Associate Professor at the University of Naples, > ?L?Orientale.? She holds a PhD in Indology and Tibetology from the > University of Turin and was a research fellow at the Austrian Academy of > Sciences from 2015 to 2021. Her main area of research is the intellectual > history of Buddhism, focusing on South Asian authors from the early > medieval period, with a specific interest in epistemology, logic and > soteriology, as well as their interconnections. Saccone?s monograph, ?On > the Nature of Things? (2018), concerns the internal Buddhist debate on > cognitions and their object in the 8th century. Her second book, ?Tantra > and Prama?n?a. Studies in the Sa?raman?jari?? (2021), co-authored with > Pe?ter-Da?niel Sza?nto?, deals with the interrelationship between Tantric > Buddhism and the Digna?ga-Dharmaki?rtian tradition of logic and > epistemology. > Dr. Charles DiSimone > Department of Languages and Cultures > Ghent University > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From camillo.formigatti at bodleian.ox.ac.uk Fri Apr 30 13:59:20 2021 From: camillo.formigatti at bodleian.ox.ac.uk (Camillo Formigatti) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2021 13:59:20 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?q?=22One_Flew_Over_the_Nest=3A_an_Externalist?= =?utf-8?b?IEFtb25nIFByYW1hzIRuzKNhdmHMhGRpbnMiLCBTZXJlbmEgU2FjY29uZSwg?= =?utf-8?q?May_4_2021?= In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: I second Madhav's suggestion, as I won't be able to attend but I would have liked to. ________________________________ Dr Camillo A. Formigatti Information Analyst ? FAMOUS Project Bodleian Libraries The Weston Library Broad Street, Oxford OX1 3BG Email: camillo.formigatti at bodleian.ox.ac.uk Tel. (office): 01865 (2)77208 www.bodleian.ox.ac.uk GROW YOUR MIND in Oxford University?s Gardens, Libraries and Museums www.mindgrowing.org ________________________________ From: INDOLOGY on behalf of Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 2:56 PM To: Charles DiSimone Cc: Indology Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] "One Flew Over the Nest: an Externalist Among Prama?n?ava?dins", Serena Saccone, May 4 2021 I hope this lecture will be recorded and a link for the recording shared on Indology. With best wishes, Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 6:51 AM Charles DiSimone via INDOLOGY > wrote: With all apologies for cross posting, this may be of interest to some members of the list. Dear Friends, below please find information on the seventh lecture in the Ghent Center for Buddhist Studies Spring Lecture Series (Permanent Training in Buddhist Studies (PTBS)) generously sponsored by the Tianzhu Foundation. Serena Saccone, Associate Professor at the University of Naples, ?L?Orientale?, will give a lecture on May 04, 2021 at 19.00 Belgian time. All lectures in this series will be held remotely over Zoom. Interested parties are welcome to attend the series or individual talks. To get the Zoom link, please register by writing to CBS at ugent.be by the morning of May 04. The link will be sent out the day of the talk. With my kind regards, Charles DiSimone One Flew Over the Nest: an Externalist Among Prama?n?ava?dins Serena Saccone University of Naples, ?L?Orientale? S?ubhagupta (8th cent.) is a key figure within the Buddhist tradition of logic and epistemology (prama?n?a). Most of his works are in fact a systematization, as well as elaboration, of the doctrines and arguments found in Dharmaki?rti?s writings. In this respect, he shares views with (and perhaps also directly influenced) his fellow Buddhist contemporaries, S?a?ntaraks?ita and Kamalas?i?la, who represent the mainstream tradition in the 8th century. On the other hand, as seen in his magnum opus, the ?Verses on the Demonstration of External Objects? (*Ba?hya?rthasiddhika?rika?), S?ubhagupta significantly deviates from that mainstream tradition on some crucial tenets by advocating the existence of external objects and the illogicality that cognitions bear their objects? images (nira?ka?rava?da). The main point of contention appears to be (to some extent) the theory of self-awareness (svasam?vedana) of cognitions. In this lecture, I shall present the pivotal elements of that internal debate, which, arguably, made S?ubhagupta the Buddhist externalist (bahirarthava?din) par excellence for that tradition. Bio Serena Saccone is an Associate Professor at the University of Naples, ?L?Orientale.? She holds a PhD in Indology and Tibetology from the University of Turin and was a research fellow at the Austrian Academy of Sciences from 2015 to 2021. Her main area of research is the intellectual history of Buddhism, focusing on South Asian authors from the early medieval period, with a specific interest in epistemology, logic and soteriology, as well as their interconnections. Saccone?s monograph, ?On the Nature of Things? (2018), concerns the internal Buddhist debate on cognitions and their object in the 8th century. Her second book, ?Tantra and Prama?n?a. Studies in the Sa?raman?jari?? (2021), co-authored with Pe?ter-Da?niel Sza?nto?, deals with the interrelationship between Tantric Buddhism and the Digna?ga-Dharmaki?rtian tradition of logic and epistemology. Dr. Charles DiSimone Department of Languages and Cultures Ghent University _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From disimone at alumni.stanford.edu Fri Apr 30 14:07:15 2021 From: disimone at alumni.stanford.edu (Charles DiSimone) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2021 16:07:15 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] =?utf-8?q?=22One_Flew_Over_the_Nest=3A_an_Externalist?= =?utf-8?b?IEFtb25nIFByYW1hzIRuzKNhdmHMhGRpbnMiLCBTZXJlbmEgU2FjY29u?= =?utf-8?q?e=2C_May_4_2021?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Madhav and Camillo, We do record the lectures and will begin posting them to the UGent Youtube channel after the end of the series. However, sometimes the lectures are of research in progress and thus the presenters have the option of keeping the recording of their talk from being shared publicly outright, or may opt to select some later date to make it available after their findings have been published. I'm not sure what Serena will select in this case. All my best, Charles Dr. Charles DiSimone Department of Languages and Cultures Ghent University On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 3:59 PM Camillo Formigatti < camillo.formigatti at bodleian.ox.ac.uk> wrote: > I second Madhav's suggestion, as I won't be able to attend but I would > have liked to. > > ------------------------------ > > Dr Camillo A. Formigatti > > Information Analyst ? FAMOUS Project > > > Bodleian Libraries > > The Weston Library > > Broad Street, Oxford > > OX1 3BG > > Email: camillo.formigatti at bodleian.ox.ac.uk > > Tel. (office): 01865 (2)77208 > www.bodleian.ox.ac.uk > > > > *GROW YOUR MIND* > > in Oxford University?s > > Gardens, Libraries and Museums > > www.mindgrowing.org > > ------------------------------ > *From:* INDOLOGY on behalf of > Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY > *Sent:* Friday, April 30, 2021 2:56 PM > *To:* Charles DiSimone > *Cc:* Indology > *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] "One Flew Over the Nest: an Externalist Among > Prama?n?ava?dins", Serena Saccone, May 4 2021 > > I hope this lecture will be recorded and a link for the recording shared > on Indology. With best wishes, > > Madhav M. Deshpande > Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics > University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies > Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India > > [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] > > > On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 6:51 AM Charles DiSimone via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > With all apologies for cross posting, this may be of interest to some > members of the list. > > Dear Friends, > > below please find information on the seventh lecture in the Ghent Center > for Buddhist Studies Spring Lecture > Series (Permanent Training in Buddhist Studies (PTBS)) generously sponsored > by the Tianzhu Foundation. Serena Saccone, Associate Professor at the > University of Naples, ?L?Orientale?, will give a lecture on May 04, 2021 at > 19.00 Belgian time. All lectures in this series will be held remotely over > Zoom. Interested parties are welcome to attend the series or individual > talks. To get the Zoom link, please register by writing to CBS at ugent.be *by > the morning of May 04*. The link will be sent out the day of the talk. > > With my kind regards, > > Charles DiSimone > > *One Flew Over the Nest: an Externalist Among Prama?n?ava?dins* > > *Serena Saccone* > * University of Naples, ?L?Orientale?* > > S?ubhagupta (8th cent.) is a key figure within the Buddhist tradition of > logic and epistemology (*prama?n?a*). Most of his works are in fact a > systematization, as well as elaboration, of the doctrines and arguments > found in Dharmaki?rti?s writings. In this respect, he shares views > with (and perhaps also directly influenced) his fellow Buddhist > contemporaries, S?a?ntaraks?ita and Kamalas?i?la, who represent the > mainstream tradition in the 8th century. On the other hand, as seen in > his magnum opus, the ?Verses on the Demonstration of External Objects? (* > *Ba?hya?rthasiddhika?rika?*), S?ubhagupta significantly deviates from > that mainstream tradition on some crucial tenets by advocating the > existence of external objects and the illogicality that cognitions bear > their objects? images (*nira?ka?rava?da*). The main point of contention > appears to be (to some extent) the theory of self-awareness ( > *svasam?vedana*) of cognitions. In this lecture, I shall present the > pivotal elements of that internal debate, which, arguably, made S?ubhagupta > the Buddhist externalist (*bahirarthava?din*) *par excellence* for that > tradition. > > *Bio* > > *Serena Saccone *is an Associate Professor at the University of Naples, > ?L?Orientale.? She holds a PhD in Indology and Tibetology from the > University of Turin and was a research fellow at the Austrian Academy of > Sciences from 2015 to 2021. Her main area of research is the intellectual > history of Buddhism, focusing on South Asian authors from the early > medieval period, with a specific interest in epistemology, logic and > soteriology, as well as their interconnections. Saccone?s monograph, ?On > the Nature of Things? (2018), concerns the internal Buddhist debate on > cognitions and their object in the 8th century. Her second book, ?Tantra > and Prama?n?a. Studies in the Sa?raman?jari?? (2021), co-authored with > Pe?ter-Da?niel Sza?nto?, deals with the interrelationship between Tantric > Buddhism and the Digna?ga-Dharmaki?rtian tradition of logic and > epistemology. > Dr. Charles DiSimone > Department of Languages and Cultures > Ghent University > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From birendra176 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 30 15:40:39 2021 From: birendra176 at yahoo.com (Birendra Nath Prasad) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2021 15:40:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [INDOLOGY] Request for the PDF copy of a paper References: <1117672485.1815617.1619797239580.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1117672485.1815617.1619797239580@mail.yahoo.com> Respected Colleagues, I am looking for a PDF copy of the following paper: Walter, Mariko N. ?Buddhism in Central Asian History.? In The Wiley Blackwell Companion to East and Inner Asian Buddhism. Edited by Mario Poceski, 21?39. Malden, MA: Wiley Blackwell, 2014. If you have a copy, kindly oblige by sending it as an email attachment. Thanking you in advance. Dr. Birendra Nath Prasad Assistant Professor Centre for Historical Studies Jawaharlal Nehru University New Delhi- 110067 Email: bnprasad at mail.jnu.ac.in bp2629 at gmail.com From luther.obrock at gmail.com Fri Apr 30 21:31:29 2021 From: luther.obrock at gmail.com (luther obrock) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2021 17:31:29 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] 3rd Annual Workshop in Indian Epigrpahy Message-ID: Dear Friends and Colleagues, We are pleased to invite your participation in the Third Annual Workshop in Indian Epigraphy, covering inscriptions from the fourth to the eleventh centuries. The course will offer an introduction to the palaeography and language of the inscriptions as well as a discussion of their place in social, political, and literary history. Sessions will take place over two weeks, Monday, Wednesday, and Friday from June 14th to June 26th. The workshop will be held virtually over Zoom, hosted by the University of Toronto. It is open to both students and faculty with an intermediate knowledge of Sanskrit. This international workshop will introduce participants to the skills necessary for reading and interpreting inscriptions of the Maitraka, Kadamba, Calukya, Rastrakuta and Silahara dynasties. Daily sessions on the palaeography, grammar, and interpretation of stone and copper plate inscriptions will be led by the project organizers. We will learn to use estampages and photographs, consult text editions and digital tools, and contextualize our readings in light of archaeological and historical evidence. Featured instructors will include Dr. Annette Schmiedchen (Humboldt University, Berlin), Dr. Elizabeth Cecil (Florida State University), Dr. Mekhola Gomes (Durham University), Dr. Jason Neelis (Wilfrid Laurier University), Dr. Daud Ali (University of Pennsylvania), and Dr. Luther Obrock (University of Toronto, Mississauga). The workshop will also a feature a lecture by Ranabir Chakrabarti (Jawaharlal Nehru University). To register please send a 2-3 sentence expression of interest detailing your Sanskrit training and your interest in the topic as well as a current CV to Luther Obrock at luther.obrock at utoronto.ca Please share widely and do not hesitate to reach out if you have further questions, Sincerely, Luther Obrock -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Summer Epigraphy 2021 Poster.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 2200205 bytes Desc: not available URL: From paoloe.rosati at gmail.com Fri Apr 30 21:46:16 2021 From: paoloe.rosati at gmail.com (Paolo Eugenio Rosati) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2021 23:46:16 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Esoteric Buddhism in Central Asia Message-ID: Dear All, I wish you all are safe and well during this endless global pandemic. Anyone can point out a few articles on Esoteric Buddhism in connection with Silk Road's sites and particularly with Eastern centres (such as Dunhuang). I am very interested in articles based on iconographic developments (from the Indian subcontinent to Central Asia). Best wishes, Paolo -- *Paolo E. Rosati* *PhD in Asian and African Studies* *https://uniroma1.academia.edu/Paolo **ER **osati/ * paoloe.rosati at gmail.com Mobile/Whatsapp: (+39) 338 73 83 472 Skype: paoloe.rosati -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mkapstei at uchicago.edu Fri Apr 30 22:18:55 2021 From: mkapstei at uchicago.edu (Matthew Kapstein) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2021 22:18:55 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Esoteric Buddhism in Central Asia In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Paolo, Michelle Wang, Ma??alas in the Making? The Visual Culture of Esoteric Buddhism at Dunhuang? is the work I would now recommend. It includes very thorough references to the earlier relevant scholarship. hope this is useful, Matthew Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: INDOLOGY on behalf of Paolo Eugenio Rosati via INDOLOGY Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 11:46:16 PM To: Indology Subject: [INDOLOGY] Esoteric Buddhism in Central Asia Dear All, I wish you all are safe and well during this endless global pandemic. Anyone can point out a few articles on Esoteric Buddhism in connection with Silk Road's sites and particularly with Eastern centres (such as Dunhuang). I am very interested in articles based on iconographic developments (from the Indian subcontinent to Central Asia). Best wishes, Paolo -- Paolo E. Rosati PhD in Asian and African Studies https://uniroma1.academia.edu/PaoloERosati/ paoloe.rosati at gmail.com Mobile/Whatsapp: (+39) 338 73 83 472 Skype: paoloe.rosati -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: