[INDOLOGY] sanskrit and computers?

Tue Apr 14 00:12:26 UTC 2020

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A core feature of Backus-Naur Form notation is it can be  recursive.
To give the simple example of  the definition of an integer  in Backus-Naur
Form :
<digit> ::= 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9
<integer> ::= <idigit> | <integer> <digit>

Note the definition of <integer> is used in its own definition to
"recursively" build up the definition of any string of digits as an
<integer>
Does Panini's grammar ever use this kind of recursion in its definitions?

Thanks,
Harry Spier

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 7:39 PM Harry Spier <vasishtha.spier at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear list members,
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> 1) This topic and this article were discussed on the indology list in 1997.
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> http://list.indology.info/pipermail/indology_list.indology.info/1993-October/000715.html
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> Harry Spier
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> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 6:32 PM Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY <
> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
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>> Backus-Naur notation is often cited as a re-discovery of Pāṇini's
>> notational methods, not entirely without justification. This 1967 letter in
>> CACM by Ingerman started this particular hare:
>> https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/363162.363165.  Ingerman's assertion
>> rests on a simplified view of how Pāṇini's grammar works, ignoring many
>> features such as rule-ordering, blocking, and scoping.  Nevertheless, the
>> general idea of BNF-style rewriting rules is there.
>>
>> Best,
>> Dominik
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>> Professor Dominik Wujastyk
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>> Department of History and Classics
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>> University of Alberta, Canada
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>> On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 at 03:27, patrick mccartney via INDOLOGY <
>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
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>>> Dear Friends, I'm wondering if I might be directed towards any objective
>>> discussion specifically related to Sanskrit and computers.To give some more
>>> context, this is an evolving component of my Imagining Sanskritland
>>> project. It links in with assertions like Sanskrit is the "language of the
>>> rural masses." The idea that Sanskrit is the best language for computing
>>> holds particular currency. I'm keen to look into it more. I'm guessing most
>>> are likely aware of the factoids circulating, which are ultimately based on
>>> the infamously disembedded NASA article by Rick Brigg's from 1985. It is
>>> consistently recycled as a means to justify several cultural nationalist
>>> assertions, one being that Sanskrit is the most "computerable" language. To
>>> illustrate, here is a very recent assertion,
>>>
>>> The language deserves to be treated much better than it has been so far,
>>> more so when it has been called the best ‘computerable’ language.
>>> Sanskrit’s credentials to be a language of future India are definitely
>>> better and greater than we have realised so far. Its revival will not
>>> only renew and revive the pride in our own cultural heritage, but will also
>>> bring about spiritualism and the concept of a meaningful society and
>>> polity, thereby bringing order and peace all across the country, a
>>> desideratum for any developed society.
>>>
>>> Since I'm not in any way a computer scientist, I'm curious to learn from
>>> members of the list. I have found many articles from obscure online
>>> journals and countless blogs that repeat the same things, quite often copy
>>> and pasted...just like the "Sanskrit-speaking" village rumors.
>>>
>>> I'm not, necessarily, curious about the intricacies of using technology
>>> to understand Sanskrit's grammar or digitize the humanities, but, rather,
>>> the aspiration to apply it to other machine learning/AI projects that
>>> compete with other conlangs specific to the task of coding. However, what
>>> I'm ultimately looking for is cogent discussion of the sociological side of
>>> this phenomenon, if it exists.
>>>
>>> Any advice is appreciated. :-)
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> パトリック マッカートニー
>>> Patrick McCartney, PhD
>>> Research Affiliate - Organization for Identity and Cultural Development
>>> (OICD), Kyoto
>>> Research Associate - Nanzan University Anthropological Institute,
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>>> National University
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