Re: [INDOLOGY] Kālacakra etexts?

David and Nancy Reigle dnreigle at
Sun Apr 12 20:14:59 UTC 2020

Thank you, Madhav, for letting me know. Too bad Jagannatha Upadhyaya's talk
and your translation of it was not recorded.

Best regards,

David Reigle
Colorado, U.S.A.

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 10:13 PM Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at> wrote:

> Dear David,
>      I am sorry to say that his talk and my translation of it were not
> recorded.  From what I remember of his talk, he emphasized that we cannot
> study Buddhism in isolation from the rest of the Indian context.  The
> Buddhist philosophers and their Hindu opponents successively developed and
> modified their arguments because they were debating and disputing each
> other's ideas, and this led to continuous reformulations of the arguments
> of the Buddhist and the Hindu philosophers.
> Madhav
> Madhav M. Deshpande
> Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics
> University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
> Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies
> [Residence: Campbell, California, USA]
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 8:25 PM David and Nancy Reigle <dnreigle at>
> wrote:
>> Dear Madhav,
>> Nice anecdote about Pandit Jagannatha Upadhyaya giving a talk in Sanskrit
>> at the University of Michigan and you translating it for the audience. I
>> just found in his Academic Profile published in *Śramaṇa Vidyā: Studies
>> in Buddhism, Prof. Jagannath Upadhyaya Commemoration Volume* (1987),
>> that the title of this talk was: "Importance of Buddhism in Indological
>> Studies." I wonder if his talk and your translation of it was recorded. If
>> so, I would love to hear it.
>> He also gave a talk in Sanskrit at University of California, Berkeley.
>> Robert Goldman translated it for the audience. It was recorded and was (is
>> still?) available from the Language Lab there. He spoke slowly and clearly;
>> a joy to listen to for those (like me) who are not accustomed to spoken
>> Sanskrit.
>> I personally feel much admiration for him, and have much appreciation for
>> what he did. It was he who undertook and launched the project to publish
>> the great *Vimalaprabhā* commentary on the *Kālacakra-tantra*. The
>> editor of his commemoration volume, N. H. Samtani, called him the first
>> Bauddha Ācārya of modern India ("In Memorium").
>> Best regards,
>> David Reigle
>> Colorado, U.S.A.
>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 1:29 PM Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at> wrote:
>>> Dear David,
>>>      Your scan of the edition by Jagannatha Upadhyaya triggered my
>>> memory of his visit to the University of Michigan probably sometime in the
>>> 1980s.  He gave a talk in Sanskrit and I translated it into English for the
>>> audience.  Best,
>>> Madhav

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