Re: [INDOLOGY] pāṇḍavas = cakras?

[Joanna Jurewicz]

Dear Patrick,

You are not blind. There is nothing like this in the BhG. I would dare to
say that in the whole MBh it cannot be found.

Best,

Joanna

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Prof. dr hab. Joanna Jurewicz

Katedra Azji Południowej /Chair of South Asia

Wydział Orientalistyczny / Faculty of Oriental Studies

Uniwersytet Warszawski /University of Warsaw

ul. Krakowskie Przedmieście 26/28

00-927 Warszawa , Poland

Department of Linguistics and Modern Languages

College of Human Sciences

UNISA

Pretoria, RPA

Member of Academia Europaea

https://uw.academia.edu/JoannaJurewicz


śr., 25 wrz 2019 o 06:01 patrick mccartney via INDOLOGY <
indology at list.indology.info> napisał(a):

> Dear Friends,
>
> does anyone know specifically in the BhG where the comparison of the
> Pāṇḍavas occurs with each relevant cakra? I've just read through a bunch of
> websites and blogs and youtube videos by prominent gurus and other less
> prominent people. But, none actually mention any specific verses. They just
> say either the MBh or the BhG is the source. It seems odd, didn't the cakra
> system develop well after either of these texts were composed? That would
> make it kind of hard for them to include talk of cakras, etc, no?
> Particularly the neo-Romantic, new agey way of describing the virtues and
> psycho-dynamic qualities of each cakra and what they symbolize.
>
> I've gone through the BhG from Gretil, also looking for tattvas or any
> similar word that might help. I just can't seem to spot where this is
> mentioned. Is it? Am I blind?  Or is this is much later interpolation
> linking the brothers, Draupadi, Krishna, etc to various metaphysical
> locations? If you are curious, here is one example of the description in
> Hind <http://trsukul.blogspot.com/2015/03/>i. (Shown below). This is also
> an English description by AoL
> <https://aravindvenkatachalam.net/2014/04/14/the-mahabharat-within-you-part-ii/>
> .
>
> सहदेव हैं ठोस अवस्था अर्थात्, मूलाधार चक्र  जो कि सभी प्रश्नों  के उत्तर
> दे सकते हैं, नकुल स्वाधिष्ठान चक्र अर्थात् जल तत्व, अर्जुन ऊर्जा को
> प्रदर्षित करते हैं अर्थात् मनीपुर चक्र, भीम वायु तत्व अर्थात  अनाहत चक्र
> को और विषुद्ध चक्र या व्योम तत्व को युधिष्ठिर प्रदर्षित करते हैं। विशुद्ध
> चक्र तक भौतिक संसार समाप्त हो जाता है और आध्यात्मिक संसार प्रारंभ हो जाता
> है। इसलिये भौतिकवादियों और आध्यात्मवादियों अर्थात् स्थूल और सूक्ष्म के बीच
> में होने वाले झगड़े में युधिष्ठिर स्थिर रहते हैं। युद्धे स्थिरः यः सः
> युधिष्ठिरः। कृष्ण सहस्त्रार में हैं । इकाई जीव चेतना जो कि मूलाधार में
> कुंडलनी की तरह होती है वह पाॅंडवों की मदद से कृष्ण तक पहुंचना चाहती है
>
> If this is just another factoid floating around Yogaland, does anyone know
> when this idea might have first been generated?
>
> Thanks.
>
> All the best,
>
> パトリック マッカートニー
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