[INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms

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Am 19.09.2019 um 11:26 schrieb Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info>:

> In my naivety I have always assumed that kātai (from Skt gāthā) in the titles of the Cilappatikāram is a translation of Tamil pāṭṭu, "song", as in Pattuppāṭṭu, which latter collection is made up of "long" poems like the Cilappatikāram chapters and as such differs from, for instance, the Kuṟuntokai.
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> Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info]
> Verzonden: donderdag 19 september 2019 10:18
> Aan: indology at list.indology.info
> Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms
> 
> Oops ...
> 
> I now see that I should have written
> 
> among the 30
> cantos of the CILAPPATIKĀRAM (சிலப்பதிகாரம்)
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silappatikaram
> 
> -- jl
> 
> On 19/09/2019 10:08, Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY wrote:
> Cher Matthew,
> 
> For the record, you might be interested to know that, among the 30
> cantos of the சிலப்பதிகாரம்
> 
> 21 are called kātai (காதை)
> 4 are called vari (வரி)
> 2 are called kuravai (குரவை)
> 2 are called mālai (மாலை)
> 1 is called pāṭal (பாடல்)
> 
> On page 864 of the Madras Tamil Lexicon, you can read the following
> 
> காதை² (p. 864) kātai காதை² kātai , n. < gāthā. 1. Poem; பாட்டு. (நீல.) 2.
> Division of a poem containing a narrative; கதையைக்கொண்ட பகுதி. (சிலப். பதி.
> 63, உரை.)
> 
> In a similar manner,
> the 30 cantos of the Maṇimēkalai (மணிமேகலை) are all called kātai (காதை)
> 
> I hope this is useful
> 
> Meilleurs voeux
> 
> -- Jean-Luc
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> 
> 
> On 19/09/2019 00:41, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote:
> Dear friends,
> 
> I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner
> in which the term gāthā is understood in connection with MIA verse,
> and analogously on dohā in connection with apabhraMza  and NIA verse.
> I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features
> including meter, rhyme etc.
> 
> with thanks in advance,
> Matthew
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