From racleach at googlemail.com Sun Sep 1 08:43:47 2019 From: racleach at googlemail.com (Robert Leach) Date: Sun, 01 Sep 19 09:43:47 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Fairy lore... Message-ID: Dear colleagues, I'd be extremely grateful if anyone could provide me with a soft copy of the following article (the journal edition appears not to be available online): Ram Prasad Bhatt, Heinz Werner Wessler & Claus Peter Zoller (2014) "Fairy lore in the high mountains of South Asia and the hymn of the Garhwali fairy 'Daughter of the Hills'", *Acta Orientalia *75: 79-166. Many thanks in advance to anyone who can help! Robert -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Sun Sep 1 13:22:56 2019 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Sun, 01 Sep 19 06:22:56 -0700 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Continuing my Krishna verses Message-ID: Continuing my Krishna verses ?????????? ??????? ??????? ???? ??? ? ?????? ??????? ???? ????? ?????? ???? ??????? O Krishna, you are smaller than an atom and greater than the greatest, and yet you became a child in Gokula filling the whole world with joy. Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mkapstei at uchicago.edu Sun Sep 1 13:57:39 2019 From: mkapstei at uchicago.edu (Matthew Kapstein) Date: Sun, 01 Sep 19 13:57:39 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] news of interest to the Indological community In-Reply-To: <67482202-E4C9-4427-B9F8-B2B0CC20651C@icloud.com> Message-ID: I thought you should all know. Matthew Kapstein Directeur d'?tudes, Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, Paris Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, The University of Chicago ________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: JNUaskshistorianRomilaThaparforherCVtoevaluateifshecancontinueasprofessoremerita.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 1716356 bytes Desc: not available URL: From wujastyk at gmail.com Mon Sep 2 03:11:55 2019 From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Sun, 01 Sep 19 21:11:55 -0600 Subject: [INDOLOGY] news of interest to the Indological community In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This has been all over Facebook today (and probably Twitter, though I don't tweet). It is deeply regrettable. In the Scroll.in report that you cite, Matthew, Romila's own comment is characteristically understated and non-inflammatory: ?It is a very unfortunate thing,? Thapar told Anandabazar. ?We are going through a strange time. Emeritus is not a mere designation. It is an honour related to the university?s goodwill.? Thank you for sharing. Best, Dominik -- Professor Dominik Wujastyk , Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity , Department of History and Classics , University of Alberta, Canada . South Asia at the U of A: sas.ualberta.ca On Sun, 1 Sep 2019 at 07:58, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > I thought you should all know. > > > Matthew Kapstein > Directeur d'?tudes, > Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, Paris > > Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, > The University of Chicago > > > ------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eastwestcultural at yahoo.com Mon Sep 2 07:53:33 2019 From: eastwestcultural at yahoo.com (Dean Michael Anderson) Date: Mon, 02 Sep 19 07:53:33 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Fw: news of interest to the Indological community In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <682829262.726069.1567410813684@mail.yahoo.com> Here is a link to the article which I didn't get. Dean Anderson JNU Asks Historian Romila Thapar For Her CV To Decide If She Can Continue As Professor Emerita | | | | | | | | | | | JNU Asks Historian Romila Thapar For Her CV To Decide If She Can Continu... Outlook Web Bureau Her colleague, Prabhat Patnaik, an economist, political commentator and a professor emeritus at JNU, says the cu... | | | ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY To: Indology Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019, 8:42:53 AM GMT+5:30Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] news of interest to the Indological community This has been all over Facebook today (and probably Twitter, though I don't tweet).? It is deeply regrettable.? In the Scroll.in report that you cite, Matthew, Romila's own comment is characteristically understated and non-inflammatory: ?It is a very unfortunate thing,? Thapar told Anandabazar. ?We are going through a strange time. Emeritus is not a mere designation. It is an honour related to the university?s goodwill.? Thank you for sharing.Best,Dominik -- Professor?Dominik Wujastyk, Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity, Department of History and Classics,University of Alberta, Canada. South Asia at the U of A:?sas.ualberta.ca On Sun, 1 Sep 2019 at 07:58, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: I thought you should all know. Matthew Kapstein Directeur d'?tudes, Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, Paris Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, The University of Chicago _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sa?g?ta?iroma?i. A Medieval Handbook of Indian Music. Leiden: Brill. Thank you, Harry Spier -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rolfheiner.koch at gmail.com Wed Sep 4 06:46:07 2019 From: rolfheiner.koch at gmail.com (Rolf Heinrich Koch) Date: Wed, 04 Sep 19 08:46:07 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Siva-vatuka and Sia-Aghora Message-ID: Dear listmembers, there are some monasteries in Sri Lanka with small temples for Hindu gods like Shiva and Vishnu. At the entrance of the Shiva- or Skanda temple are paintings of Siva-Va?uka (< Bhairava-v?hana) and Siva-Aghora. There are some descriptions in secondary literature about this custom in South India, but nowhere is mentioned a temple with this paintings or statues at the entrance. Does anyone of you have seen this while visiting a temple in India? Are there any photos? Thank you Heiner -- www.rolfheinrichkoch.wordpress.com From Rupert.Gethin at bristol.ac.uk Wed Sep 4 08:48:38 2019 From: Rupert.Gethin at bristol.ac.uk (Rupert Gethin) Date: Wed, 04 Sep 19 08:48:38 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Pali Text Society: Horner Memorial Lecture 13 September Message-ID: Dear Colleagues, PALI TEXT SOCIETY 18th I. B. HORNER MEMORIAL LECTURE Martin Straube PTS Research Fellow in Pali Lexicography Philipps University of Marburg The J?takam?l?s of ?rya??ra and Haribha??a and the P?li J?taka Collection Friday, 13 September 2019, 5.30 p.m. Room B103, Brunei Gallery Building School of Oriental and African Studies Thornhaugh Street Russell Square London WC1H OXG ALL ARE WELCOME ABSTRACT J?takas or ?stories of past lives of the Buddha? form an important and popular part of Buddhist scriptures, both for the Buddhist tradition itself and modern scholarship. The only surviving canonical collection of j?takas is that of the Therav?dins included in the P?li canon. In the literary genre of the ?s traditional j?takas have been adapted and transformed into new stories composed in the style of classical Indian poetry (k?vya). Thus it is to be expected that a comprehensive canonical collection such as the P?li J?taka, or some very similar collection, exerted a certain influence on the writers of j?takam?l?s. The lecture tries to illustrate the quite different degree of influence traditional j?takas as found in the P?li J?taka had on the works of ?rya??ra and Haribha??a respectively, even though both poets are otherwise closely linked representatives of the genre of the j?takam?l?s. Best wishes, Rupert Gethin -- Rupert Gethin Professor of Buddhist Studies University of Bristol Department of Religion and Theology 3 Woodland Road Bristol BS8 1TB, UK Email: Rupert.Gethin at bristol.ac.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From drdhaval2785 at gmail.com Wed Sep 4 18:01:57 2019 From: drdhaval2785 at gmail.com (Dhaval Patel) Date: Wed, 04 Sep 19 23:31:57 +0530 Subject: =?utf-8?B?W0lORE9MT0dZXSDgpKjgpL7gpKjgpL7gpLDgpY3gpKXgpLbgpKzgpY3gpKbgpJXgpYvgpLcgb2Yg4KSu4KWH4KSm4KS/4KSo4KS/4KSV4KSw?= Message-ID: Dear Scholars, It gives me immense pleasure to present before you another important lexicon of Sanskrit namely N?n?rtha?abdako?a of Medinikara. Credits in the metadata section. https://github.com/sanskrit-kosha/kosha/blob/master/nanarthashabdakosha_medinikara/orig/nanarthashabdakosha.txt -- Dr. Dhaval Patel, I.A.S Collector and District Magistrate, Surat www.sanskritworld.in -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From arfalques at cantab.net Thu Sep 5 03:32:06 2019 From: arfalques at cantab.net (=?utf-8?Q?Aleix_Ruiz_Falqu=C3=A9s?=) Date: Thu, 05 Sep 19 10:02:06 +0630 Subject: [INDOLOGY] A manuscript written in unknown scripts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Shihong Zhao, This is a Pali manuscript written in Old Burmese script, otherwise known as Square Script or Tamarind-seed Script. It contains the Kacc?yana Pali grammar, only the suttas, wihtout the gloss (vutti), which is quite remarkable. I have never seen a Kacc?yana manuscript written in the old script and I have never seen a Kacc?yana manuscript without the gloss. Old Burmese Script is normally used in kammav?c? texts. Do you know the origin of the manuscript? Any date? Best wishes, Aleix On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 at 09:18, Shihong Zhao via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear List members, > > Recently I have received some pictures of a manuscript from my professor, > but I do not know the script. I would appreciate it if anyone could kindly > help to decipher both the script and the content. > > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lqyljzmfxdtke6v/AAAKjJ8h0mZGz0q9Bzs41Tlza?dl=0 > > Shihong Zhao, PhD Student > Department of Indological Studies > Graduate School of Letters > Kyoto University > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -- Aleix Ruiz-Falqu?s Pali Lecturer Head of the Department of Pali and Languages Shan State Buddhist University Phaya Phyu, Taunggyi, Myanmar 140101 (+95) 09428757648 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zhaoshihong11126 at gmail.com Thu Sep 5 03:59:09 2019 From: zhaoshihong11126 at gmail.com (Shihong Zhao) Date: Thu, 05 Sep 19 12:59:09 +0900 Subject: [INDOLOGY] A manuscript written in unknown scripts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Mr. Ruiz-Falqu?s, Thank you for your immediate reply. I do not have knowledge of Old Burmese script. At first, I thought the manuscript is written in Burmese or Thai script. As for the date of the manuscript, I actually have no idea. What I know about it is that my professor found in Lhasa some large volumes of books in which there are many photographs of South Asian manuscripts. These books belong to a big project of an official committee in Lhasa which aims at preserving palm-leaf manuscripts in Tibet. The appearance of this manuscript in Tibet means that it was purchased and then brought to a monastery in Tibet in ancient time. Best wishes, Zhao Aleix Ruiz Falqu?s ?2019?9?5??? ??12:32??? > Dear Shihong Zhao, > > This is a Pali manuscript written in Old Burmese script, otherwise known > as Square Script or Tamarind-seed Script. It contains the Kacc?yana Pali > grammar, only the suttas, wihtout the gloss (vutti), which is quite > remarkable. I have never seen a Kacc?yana manuscript written in the old > script and I have never seen a Kacc?yana manuscript without the gloss. Old > Burmese Script is normally used in kammav?c? texts. > > Do you know the origin of the manuscript? Any date? > > Best wishes, > Aleix > > On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 at 09:18, Shihong Zhao via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Dear List members, >> >> Recently I have received some pictures of a manuscript from my professor, >> but I do not know the script. I would appreciate it if anyone could kindly >> help to decipher both the script and the content. >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lqyljzmfxdtke6v/AAAKjJ8h0mZGz0q9Bzs41Tlza?dl=0 >> >> Shihong Zhao, PhD Student >> Department of Indological Studies >> Graduate School of Letters >> Kyoto University >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > > -- > Aleix Ruiz-Falqu?s > Pali Lecturer > Head of the Department of Pali and Languages > Shan State Buddhist University > Phaya Phyu, Taunggyi, Myanmar 140101 > (+95) 09428757648 > -- ????????????????????? ??? Shihong Zhao, PhD Student Department of Indological Studies Graduate School of Letters Kyoto University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Karen_O'Brien-Kop at soas.ac.uk Thu Sep 5 08:11:01 2019 From: Karen_O'Brien-Kop at soas.ac.uk (Karen O'Brien-Kop) Date: Thu, 05 Sep 19 09:11:01 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Spalding Symposium on Indian Religions 2020: Call for papers Message-ID: *Spalding Symposium on Indian Religions* *Call for papers: 2020 Symposium * We invite proposals for papers for the 45th Spalding Symposium on Indian Religions, which will be held at the University of Edinburgh, on 24th-26th April 2020. The theme this year is ?Comparison(s)?. Our purview includes both religions of South Asian origin wherever in the world they are being practised, and those of non South Asian origin present within South Asia. We welcome papers based upon all research methods, including textual, historical, ethnographic, sociological and philosophical. Presenters are allocated forty minutes for their paper and twenty minutes for discussion, and will normally be expected to pay their own conference registration and expenses. The Symposium fee, including food and accommodation, will be in the region of ?245, with a non-residential rate of around ?85. Registration details will be released in the new year. Limited financial assistance may be available for early career scholars or scholars from South Asia. If your participation depends upon such support please indicate this when you submit your abstract. We also welcome proposals from doctoral students, who will be allocated twenty minutes for their paper and ten minutes for discussion, and offered free registration at the Symposium. PG papers need not address the symposium theme, though it is an advantage if they do so. We are delighted to announce our keynote speakers: - *Dr Jacqueline Suthren Hirst*, who recently retired from Manchester University, will speak on ?A Life of Comparisons? - *Prof. Oliver Freiberger* of the University of Texas at Austin, will speak on ?Comparing Religion Within and Beyond South Asia? If you would like to give a presentation, please send a title and abstract (maximum 500 words) to Dr Brian Black, b.black at lancaster.ac.uk, by Friday 29 November 2019. Further information about the Symposium can be found on our website, spaldingsymposium.org , where you can also sign up to receive details of the programme and booking information when available. Looking forward to receiving your abstracts! All the best, Dr. Karen O'Brien-Kop On Behalf Of: Dr Brian Black Dr. Karen O'Brien-Kop *Senior Teaching Fellow* *Department of Religions and Philosophies* SOAS University of London -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Kush Depala* *Heidelberg University (Heidelberg, Germany)* *Long Abstract* This panel seeks to revitalise the study of ?scripture? in the South Asian context by considering its role within sectarian community formation. It is especially interested in the processes used in formalising scripture. Examples include the reuse of quotations and concepts; translations into authoritative languages; attribution of authorship to a deity or authoritative leader; stylisation according to ??stric norms; inclusion of concepts to appeal to historical contextual authorities; and dissemination and print. Such processes point to how a community seeks legitimacy through texts to situate itself within accepted authoritative rubrics. We encourage cross-disciplinary approaches that address how scripturalisation processes have featured in various cases of community formation, the consolidation of authority through scripture, and the contexts that have pressured nascent groups to literalise and scripturalise their doctrinal positions. We hope this will encourage fruitful discussion on how scripture features as an important marker in the study of community formation and legitimisation. Further related questions could include: How were processes involved in scripturalisation simulated and intended to serve a temporary need? For example, making a text look older than it is, attributing it to an authoritative person, or reusing authoritative quotations and concepts that disagree with the tradition?s distinct doctrinal position. What extent has a group compromised literalising its doctrinal positions in its aim to acquire credibility? And how do we understand such texts that have become permanent markers of a sectarian group?s identity today? Respondent: Brian Hatcher *Tufts University (Medford, United States of America)* ? If you have any questions, please feel free to get in touch at kush.depala at stud.uni-heidelberg.de or avni_chag at soas.ac.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kauzeya at gmail.com Thu Sep 5 11:03:43 2019 From: kauzeya at gmail.com (Jonathan Silk) Date: Thu, 05 Sep 19 13:03:43 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] A manuscript written in unknown scripts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: No one yet grabbed on to this, at least on this list, but ... >> my professor found in Lhasa some large volumes of books in which there are many photographs of South Asian manuscripts. These books belong to a big project of an official committee in Lhasa which aims at preserving palm-leaf manuscripts in Tibet. << if this means what it seems to say, this means that someone, at least, namely your professor, has (some?) access to the near-legendary volumes produced a few years ago, a set of 61 if memory serves, in which --again, as I recall--excellent color photos were reproduced of palm leaf manuscripts ( those in good condition, and thought to be complete? I am not certain about this, but anyway apparently not paper MSS), and of which only a very small number of sets were produced, those inaccessible even to scholars in the PRC, much less abroad. **IF** someone now has actual access to these volumes ... well, I dare say it is not a big exaggeration to say that this signals a sea change, and I am far from alone in eagerly panting for access to these photos. Can you provide any more details? (In the plates you offered, on 1b-4b the volume itself is visible, and the color of the binding agrees with what I remember from seeing several years ago a CCTV segment on the publication of these volumes, so I would guess that your professor [I am quite eager to know who this is] seems to have held in his/her hands one at least of these very volumes.) Jonathan Silk -- J. Silk Leiden University Leiden University Institute for Area Studies, LIAS Matthias de Vrieshof 3, Room 0.05b 2311 BZ Leiden The Netherlands copies of my publications may be found at https://leidenuniv.academia.edu/JASilk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mkapstei at uchicago.edu Thu Sep 5 11:57:11 2019 From: mkapstei at uchicago.edu (Matthew Kapstein) Date: Thu, 05 Sep 19 11:57:11 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] A manuscript written in unknown scripts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: As I recall, the series has 80 or so volumes and just three copies were printed. There is also supposed to be a complete catalogue of known palm leaf mss in the TAR. The assumption that the Burmese ms was purchased and brought to Tibet in ancient times is unwarranted. It may have been a gift at the Buddhajayanti in 1956 for all we know, not to mention other possibilities. Matthew Kapstein EPHE, Paris Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: INDOLOGY on behalf of Jonathan Silk via INDOLOGY Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 1:03:43 PM To: Shihong Zhao Cc: Indology Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] A manuscript written in unknown scripts No one yet grabbed on to this, at least on this list, but ... >> my professor found in Lhasa some large volumes of books in which there are many photographs of South Asian manuscripts. These books belong to a big project of an official committee in Lhasa which aims at preserving palm-leaf manuscripts in Tibet. << if this means what it seems to say, this means that someone, at least, namely your professor, has (some?) access to the near-legendary volumes produced a few years ago, a set of 61 if memory serves, in which --again, as I recall--excellent color photos were reproduced of palm leaf manuscripts ( those in good condition, and thought to be complete? I am not certain about this, but anyway apparently not paper MSS), and of which only a very small number of sets were produced, those inaccessible even to scholars in the PRC, much less abroad. **IF** someone now has actual access to these volumes ... well, I dare say it is not a big exaggeration to say that this signals a sea change, and I am far from alone in eagerly panting for access to these photos. Can you provide any more details? (In the plates you offered, on 1b-4b the volume itself is visible, and the color of the binding agrees with what I remember from seeing several years ago a CCTV segment on the publication of these volumes, so I would guess that your professor [I am quite eager to know who this is] seems to have held in his/her hands one at least of these very volumes.) Jonathan Silk -- J. Silk Leiden University Leiden University Institute for Area Studies, LIAS Matthias de Vrieshof 3, Room 0.05b 2311 BZ Leiden The Netherlands copies of my publications may be found at https://leidenuniv.academia.edu/JASilk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zhaoshihong11126 at gmail.com Thu Sep 5 13:32:19 2019 From: zhaoshihong11126 at gmail.com (Shihong Zhao) Date: Thu, 05 Sep 19 22:32:19 +0900 Subject: [INDOLOGY] A manuscript written in unknown scripts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Prof. Kapstein, Dear Prof. Silk, Thank you for your comments. Unfortunately, I have to close this topic and delete the photos. Also, I would like to ask anybody who may have downloaded the photos to delete them. I just realized that the data may cause some unpredictable problems. Best regards, Zhao Matthew Kapstein ?2019?9?5??? ??8:57??? > As I recall, the series has 80 or so volumes and just three copies were > printed. There is also supposed to be a complete catalogue of known palm > leaf mss in the TAR. > > The assumption that the Burmese ms was purchased and brought to Tibet in > ancient times is unwarranted. It may have been a gift at the Buddhajayanti > in 1956 for all we know, not to mention other possibilities. > > Matthew Kapstein > EPHE, Paris > > Get Outlook for iOS > ------------------------------ > *From:* INDOLOGY on behalf of > Jonathan Silk via INDOLOGY > *Sent:* Thursday, September 5, 2019 1:03:43 PM > *To:* Shihong Zhao > *Cc:* Indology > *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] A manuscript written in unknown scripts > > No one yet grabbed on to this, at least on this list, but ... > > >> my professor found in Lhasa some large volumes of books in which there > are many photographs of South Asian manuscripts. These books belong to a > big project of an official committee in Lhasa which aims at preserving > palm-leaf manuscripts in Tibet. << > > if this means what it seems to say, this means that someone, at least, > namely your professor, has (some?) access to the near-legendary volumes > produced a few years ago, a set of 61 if memory serves, in which --again, > as I recall--excellent color photos were reproduced of palm leaf > manuscripts ( those in good condition, and thought to be complete? I am not > certain about this, but anyway apparently not paper MSS), and of which only > a very small number of sets were produced, those inaccessible even to > scholars in the PRC, much less abroad. > **IF** someone now has actual access to these volumes ... well, I dare say > it is not a big exaggeration to say that this signals a sea change, and I > am far from alone in eagerly panting for access to these photos. > Can you provide any more details? > (In the plates you offered, on 1b-4b the volume itself is visible, and the > color of the binding agrees with what I remember from seeing several years > ago a CCTV segment on the publication of these volumes, so I would guess > that your professor [I am quite eager to know who this is] seems to have > held in his/her hands one at least of these very volumes.) > > Jonathan Silk > > > -- > J. Silk > Leiden University > Leiden University Institute for Area Studies, LIAS > Matthias de Vrieshof 3, Room 0.05b > 2311 BZ Leiden > The Netherlands > > copies of my publications may be found at > https://leidenuniv.academia.edu/JASilk > -- ????????????????????? ??? Shihong Zhao, PhD Student Department of Indological Studies Graduate School of Letters Kyoto University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Thu Sep 5 13:34:19 2019 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Thu, 05 Sep 19 06:34:19 -0700 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Continuing my Krishna verses Message-ID: Continuing my Krishna verses ????????????????????? ?????? ??????? ?????? ? ????????: ??????????? ????????????????? ???? ??????? You are a unique potter who is always happy to make pots like us for his own play without any payment. Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From birgit.kellner at oeaw.ac.at Thu Sep 5 14:12:36 2019 From: birgit.kellner at oeaw.ac.at (Birgit Kellner) Date: Thu, 05 Sep 19 16:12:36 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] A manuscript written in unknown scripts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4b06d37e-0d3d-cca6-ff54-19dfaebc8d03@oeaw.ac.at> Just for information: these are indeed 61 volumes, of which reportedly 5 sets were printed. This is the result of a project dedicated to the survey (and photography) of all palm-leaf mss in the TAR conducted between 2006 and 2011 under the direction of Prof. Tsewang Gyurme. Photographs of the cover pages of volume 1 and 61, as well as a photograph of the entire set, were reproduced in two 2014 issues of the journal "Tibet Palm-Leaf Manuscript Studies" (Lhasa). As Jonathan Silk rightly points out, neither scholars in the PRC nor foreign scholars have so far been able to officially access these volumes, let alone procure them. The production of these volumes is by the way briefly discussed in Ernst Steinkellner's forthcoming paper "Sanskrit manuscripts on palm-leaves, paper and birch-bark in the TAR: What now?", delivered as a keynote lecture at the Beijing International Seminar on Tibetan Studies in 2016, to be published in the proceedings of the Sanskrit manuscripts panel at the Seminar edited by Jowita Kramer, Xuezhu Li and myself (Beijing: China Tibetology Publishing House). With best regards, Birgit Kellner Am 05.09.19 um 13:03 schrieb Jonathan Silk via INDOLOGY: > No one yet grabbed on to this, at least on this list, but ... > > >> my professor found in Lhasa some large volumes of books in which > there are many photographs of South Asian manuscripts. These books > belong to a big project of an official committee in Lhasa which aims > at preserving palm-leaf manuscripts in Tibet. << > > if this means what it seems to say, this means that someone, at least, > namely your professor, has (some?) access to the near-legendary > volumes produced a few years ago, a set of 61 if memory serves, in > which --again, as I recall--excellent color photos were reproduced of > palm leaf manuscripts ( those in good condition, and thought to be > complete? I am not certain about this, but anyway apparently not paper > MSS), and of which only a very small number of sets were produced, > those inaccessible even to scholars in the PRC, much less abroad. > **IF** someone now has actual access to these volumes ... well, I dare > say it is not a big exaggeration to say that this signals a sea > change, and I am far from alone in eagerly panting for access to these > photos. > Can you provide any more details? > (In the plates you offered, on 1b-4b the volume itself is visible, and > the color of the binding agrees with what I remember from seeing > several years ago a CCTV segment on the publication of these volumes, > so I would guess that your professor [I am quite eager to know who > this is] seems to have held in his/her hands one at least of these > very volumes.) > > Jonathan Silk > > > -- > J. 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On Thu, Sep 5, 2019, 7:42 AM Krishnaprasad G via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear all > I am aware that few people are searching for the biographical details of > MR Kale, according to the pointers given by Prof Ashok Aklujkar ji, if > anyone could procure any details, then please share. > > Thanking you > KP > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Kale (I don?t have the full name) was procuring new editions of his father?s works already in the 1920s and apparently continued this until the 1970s). Best, Klaus ________________________________ From: INDOLOGY on behalf of Krishnaprasad G via INDOLOGY Sent: 05 September 2019 20:40 To: Indology ; bvparishat at googlegroups.com Subject: [INDOLOGY] Picture of M R Kale Dear all I am aware that few people are searching for the biographical details of MR Kale, according to the pointers given by Prof Ashok Aklujkar ji, if anyone could procure any details, then please share. Thanking you KP -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Fri Sep 6 13:47:26 2019 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Fri, 06 Sep 19 06:47:26 -0700 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Continuing my Krishna verses Message-ID: Continuing my Krishna verses ??? ????? ????????????? ? ???? ?????? ?? ??? ? ??? ????? ????????????? ?? ??????????? ???? ??????? O Krishna, I cannot think of a time for me when I will forget you. If I forget you, who shall I remember? Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Sat Sep 7 00:47:55 2019 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Fri, 06 Sep 19 17:47:55 -0700 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Recent article in Science on Rakhigarhi genome Message-ID: Tried to access the recent article "The formation of human populations in South and Central Asia" by Vagheesh Narasimhan et al published in the journal Science [Sept 6, 2019], but could not get access to it through the University of Michigan Library. I am wondering if someone has downloaded this article and can share with me. Thanks. Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saf at safarmer.com Sat Sep 7 02:33:19 2019 From: saf at safarmer.com (Steve Farmer) Date: Fri, 06 Sep 19 22:33:19 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Recent article in Science on Rakhigarhi genome In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <71118191-E4BC-4A9C-BD85-E5E069A7571B@safarmer.com> Madhav Despande writes: > Tried to access the recent article "The formation of human populations in South and Central Asia" by Vagheesh Narasimhan et al published in the journal Science [Sept 6, 2019], but could not get access to it through the University of Michigan Library. I am wondering if someone has downloaded this article and can share with me. Thanks. Hi Madhav, You can get the article from Reich?s website. I repost below what I said earlier on the Indo-Eurasian List, where we routinely track the aDNA evidence. Best, Steve *************** Dear List, Published yesterday in Science: the most important study yet of the population of South Asia & Central Asia, out of David Reich?s lab at Harvard. What amazing progress in the field in the last four years! The paper is behind paywalls ? a Science specialty ? but there is a direct link to the pdf at the Reich lab webpage. Magnificent maps and multiple summaries as well (check out Box 2. Summary of key findings)! https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/sites/reich.hms.harvard.edu/files/inline-files/2019_Science_NarasimhanPatterson_CentralSouthAsia.pdf Narendra Modi & the BJP party & all their Hindutva friends I?m sure ? since they follow the science closely ? will be convinced by the evidence here to change their views of ancient history! :) If you have some spare time, count the number of authors on the paper. The lesson in the count: a reminder that science is a collective & international endeavor, which is exactly why no scientific paper ? ever, under any circumstances ? should be hidden behind paywalls. Steve ? ? ? ? The formation of human populations in South and Central Asia Vagheesh M. Narasimhan1*?, Nick Patterson2,3*?, Priya Moorjani4,5?, Nadin Rohland1,2?, Rebecca Bernardos1, Swapan Mallick1,2,6?, Iosif Lazaridis1, Nathan Nakatsuka1,7, In?igo Olalde1, Mark Lipson1, Alexander M. Kim1,8, Luca M. Olivieri9, Alfredo Coppa10, Massimo Vidale9,11, James Mallory12, Vyacheslav Moiseyev13, Egor Kitov14,15,16, Janet Monge17, Nicole Adamski1,6, Neel Alex18, Nasreen Broomandkhoshbacht1,6?, Francesca Candilio19,20, Kimberly Callan1,6, Olivia Cheronet19,21,22, Brendan J. Culleton23, Matthew Ferry1,6, Daniel Fernandes19,21,22,24, Suzanne Freilich22, Beatriz Gamarra19,21,25||?, Daniel Gaudio19,21, Mateja Hajdinjak26, E?adaoin Harney1,6,27, Thomas K. Harper28, Denise Keating19, Ann Marie Lawson1,6, Matthew Mah1,2,6, Kirsten Mandl22, Megan Michel1,6#**, Mario Novak19,29, Jonas Oppenheimer1,6??, Niraj Rai30,31, Kendra Sirak1,19,32, Viviane Slon26, Kristin Stewardson1,6,Fatma Zalzala1,6, Zhao Zhang1, Gaziz Akhatov15, Anatoly N. Bagashev33, Alessandra Bagnera9, Bauryzhan Baitanayev15, Julio Bendezu-Sarmiento34,Arman A. Bissembaev15,35, Gian Luca Bonora36, Temirlan T. Chargynov37, Tatiana Chikisheva38, Petr K. Dashkovskiy39, Anatoly Derevianko38, Miroslav Dobes?40, Katerina Douka41,42, Nadezhda Dubova14, Meiram N. Duisengali35, Dmitry Enshin33, Andrey Epimakhov43,44, Alexey V. Fribus45, Dorian Fuller46,47, Alexander Goryachev33, Andrey Gromov13, Sergey P. Grushin48, Bryan Hanks49, Margaret Judd49, Erlan Kazizov15, Aleksander Khokhlov50, Aleksander P. Krygin51, Elena Kupriyanova52, Pavel Kuznetsov50, Donata Luiselli53, Farhod Maksudov54, Aslan M. Mamedov55, Talgat B. Mamirov15, Christopher Meiklejohn56, Deborah C. Merrett57,Roberto Micheli9,58, Oleg Mochalov50, Samariddin Mustafokulov54,59, Ayushi Nayak41, Davide Pettener60, Richard Potts61, Dmitry Razhev33, Marina Rykun62, Stefania Sarno60, Tatyana M. Savenkova63, Kulyan Sikhymbaeva64, Sergey M. Slepchenko33, Oroz A. Soltobaev37, Nadezhda Stepanova38, Svetlana Svyatko13,65, Kubatbek Tabaldiev66, Maria Teschler-Nicola22,67, Alexey A. Tishkin68, Vitaly V. Tkachev69, Sergey Vasilyev14,70, Petr Velemi?nsky?71, Dmitriy Voyakin15,72, Antonina Yermolayeva15, Muhammad Zahir41,73,Valery S. Zubkov74, Alisa Zubova13, Vasant S. Shinde75, Carles Lalueza-Fox76, Matthias Meyer26, David Anthony77, Nicole Boivin41?, Kumarasamy Thangaraj30?, Douglas J. Kennett23,28,78?, Michael Frachetti79,80?, Ron Pinhasi19,22?, David Reich1,2,6,81? > On Sep 6, 2019, at 8:47 PM, Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY wrote: > > Tried to access the recent article "The formation of human populations in South and Central Asia" by Vagheesh Narasimhan et al published in the journal Science [Sept 6, 2019], but could not get access to it through the University of Michigan Library. I am wondering if someone has downloaded this article and can share with me. Thanks. > > Madhav M. Deshpande > Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics > University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies > > [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Sat Sep 7 13:46:20 2019 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Sat, 07 Sep 19 06:46:20 -0700 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Continuing my Krishna verses Message-ID: Continuing my Krishna verses ??? ?????????? ?? ??????? ???? ??????????? ?? ??? ? ??? ??????????? ?? ??????? ??? ?????????? ???? ??????? If you abandon my love, even then I am not giving up love for you, O Krishna. If I give up love for you, who else should I love? Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eastwestcultural at yahoo.com Sat Sep 7 17:12:15 2019 From: eastwestcultural at yahoo.com (Dean Michael Anderson) Date: Sat, 07 Sep 19 17:12:15 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Another interesting study on Indian genetics - from The Hindu and the actual paper In-Reply-To: <2060538381.2493707.1567876335631.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2060538381.2493707.1567876335631@mail.yahoo.com> ?Indus Valley settlers had a distinct genetic lineage? Throwing fresh light on the Indus Valley Civilisation, a study of DNA from skeletal remains excavated from the Harappan cemetery at Rakhigarhi argues that the hunter-gatherers of South Asia, who then became a settled people, have an independent origin. The researchers who conducted the study contend that the theory of the Harappans having Steppe pastoral or ancient Iranian farmer ancestry thus stands refuted. The finding also negates the hypothesis about mass migration during Harappan times from outside South Asia, they argue. https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/science/indus-valley-settlers-had-a-distinct-genetic-lineage/article29355941.ece Here is the actual paper since the journal is behind a paywall. https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/sites/reich.hms.harvard.edu/files/inline-files/2019_Science_NarasimhanPatterson_CentralSouthAsia.pdf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Shinde?s paper, cited by all the Hindutva types, is based on a single reconstructed aDNA sample of one (1) female skeleton discovered years ago by Shinde at Rakhigarh. If you have to read a news story about it rather than consulting the full paper (Shinde?s was published in Cell, not Science), read this story about it in Science, which doesn?t have a nationalist axe to grind: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/09/genome-nearly-5000-year-old-woman-links-modern-indians-ancient-civilization The skeleton showed genetic affinities, as you?ll see in the story, to aDNA samples from Iran and Turkmenistan, which supports lots of evidence of other sorts that the Indus Valley civilization was populated by peoples from outside India: not so nativist after all. Shinde?s paper carries a very misleading title: "An Ancient Harappan Genome Lacks Ancestry from Steppe Pastoralists or Iranian farmers? . True but devious and misleading: it does carry genes from outside India, so not so nativist after all. Maybe check your sources before posting? Steve > On Sep 7, 2019, at 1:12 PM, Dean Michael Anderson via INDOLOGY wrote: > > ?Indus Valley settlers had a distinct genetic lineage? > > Throwing fresh light on the Indus Valley Civilisation, a study of DNA from skeletal remains excavated from the Harappan cemetery at Rakhigarhi argues that the hunter-gatherers of South Asia, who then became a settled people, have an independent origin. The researchers who conducted the study contend that the theory of the Harappans having Steppe pastoral or ancient Iranian farmer ancestry thus stands refuted. The finding also negates the hypothesis about mass migration during Harappan times from outside South Asia, they argue. > > https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/science/indus-valley-settlers-had-a-distinct-genetic-lineage/article29355941.ece > > Here is the actual paper since the journal is behind a paywall. > > https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/sites/reich.hms.harvard.edu/files/inline-files/2019_Science_NarasimhanPatterson_CentralSouthAsia.pdf > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It is the largest study by far ever published on aDNA evidence re. Central Asia and South Asia. Shinde?s paper, cited by all the Hindutva types, is based on a single reconstructed aDNA sample of one (1) female skeleton discovered years ago by Shinde at?Rakhigarh.? If you have to read a news story about it rather than consulting the full paper (Shinde?s was published in Cell, not Science), read this story about it in Science, which doesn?t have a nationalist axe to grind: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/09/genome-nearly-5000-year-old-woman-links-modern-indians-ancient-civilization The skeleton showed genetic affinities, as you?ll see in the story, to aDNA samples from Iran and Turkmenistan, which supports lots of evidence of other sorts that the Indus Valley civilization was populated by peoples from outside India: not so nativist after all. Shinde?s paper carries a very misleading title: "An Ancient Harappan Genome Lacks Ancestry from Steppe Pastoralists or Iranian farmers??. True but devious and misleading: it does carry genes from outside India, so not so nativist after all. Maybe check your sources before posting? Steve On Sep 7, 2019, at 1:12 PM, Dean Michael Anderson via INDOLOGY wrote: ?Indus Valley settlers had a distinct genetic lineage? Throwing fresh light on the Indus Valley Civilisation, a study of DNA from skeletal remains excavated from the Harappan cemetery at Rakhigarhi argues that the hunter-gatherers of South Asia, who then became a settled people, have an independent origin. The researchers who conducted the study contend that the theory of the Harappans having Steppe pastoral or ancient Iranian farmer ancestry thus stands refuted. The finding also negates the hypothesis about mass migration during Harappan times from outside South Asia, they argue. https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/science/indus-valley-settlers-had-a-distinct-genetic-lineage/article29355941.ece Here is the actual paper since the journal is behind a paywall. https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/sites/reich.hms.harvard.edu/files/inline-files/2019_Science_NarasimhanPatterson_CentralSouthAsia.pdf _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eastwestcultural at yahoo.com Sat Sep 7 21:55:31 2019 From: eastwestcultural at yahoo.com (Dean Michael Anderson) Date: Sat, 07 Sep 19 21:55:31 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Another interesting study on Indian genetics - from The Hindu and the actual paper In-Reply-To: <663349472.2501407.1567879705666@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <476225057.2546525.1567893331048@mail.yahoo.com> I don't feel so bad about conflating the two articles now that I see they were both covered in the same article in Science Daily. How often does it happen that two important genetic studies covering South Asia appear at the same time? Interestingly, they also have many of the same authors: David Reich, Vagheesh M. Narasimhan, Nick Patterson, etc. Here is the link to the Science Daily article which summarizes both articles: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/09/190905145348.htm?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+sciencedaily%2Ftop_news%2Ftop_science+%28ScienceDaily%3A+Top+Science+News%29&utm_content=Yahoo%21+Mail and the direct link to the Rakhigarhi article published in Cell magazine which I was able to download in full: https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(19)30967-5?_returnURL=https%3A%2F%2Flinkinghub.elsevier.com%2Fretrieve%2Fpii%2FS0092867419309675%3Fshowall%3Dtrue Best, Dean On Saturday, September 7, 2019, 11:39:12 PM GMT+5:30, Dean Michael Anderson via INDOLOGY wrote: Thanks for the correction, Steve. It was indeed, as you observe, posted in too much haste. Best, Dean On Saturday, September 7, 2019, 11:24:11 PM GMT+5:30, Steve Farmer via INDOLOGY wrote: Dean - The Hindu story you just posted in Indology (below), based on Shinde?s very well-known claims, is certainly NOT based on Narasimhan et al. ? the paper I posted early on Indo-Eurasian Research, then on Indology, and that you just reposted below. Very different papers, published in different journals, and of totally unequal importance. Narasimhan et al. is based on finds involving 523 aDNA samples from Central Asia, S. Asia, and Iran. It is the largest study by far ever published on aDNA evidence re. Central Asia and South Asia. Shinde?s paper, cited by all the Hindutva types, is based on a single reconstructed aDNA sample of one (1) female skeleton discovered years ago by Shinde at?Rakhigarh.? If you have to read a news story about it rather than consulting the full paper (Shinde?s was published in Cell, not Science), read this story about it in Science, which doesn?t have a nationalist axe to grind: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/09/genome-nearly-5000-year-old-woman-links-modern-indians-ancient-civilization The skeleton showed genetic affinities, as you?ll see in the story, to aDNA samples from Iran and Turkmenistan, which supports lots of evidence of other sorts that the Indus Valley civilization was populated by peoples from outside India: not so nativist after all. Shinde?s paper carries a very misleading title: "An Ancient Harappan Genome Lacks Ancestry from Steppe Pastoralists or Iranian farmers??. True but devious and misleading: it does carry genes from outside India, so not so nativist after all. Maybe check your sources before posting? Steve On Sep 7, 2019, at 1:12 PM, Dean Michael Anderson via INDOLOGY wrote: ?Indus Valley settlers had a distinct genetic lineage? Throwing fresh light on the Indus Valley Civilisation, a study of DNA from skeletal remains excavated from the Harappan cemetery at Rakhigarhi argues that the hunter-gatherers of South Asia, who then became a settled people, have an independent origin. The researchers who conducted the study contend that the theory of the Harappans having Steppe pastoral or ancient Iranian farmer ancestry thus stands refuted. The finding also negates the hypothesis about mass migration during Harappan times from outside South Asia, they argue. https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/science/indus-valley-settlers-had-a-distinct-genetic-lineage/article29355941.ece Here is the actual paper since the journal is behind a paywall. https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/sites/reich.hms.harvard.edu/files/inline-files/2019_Science_NarasimhanPatterson_CentralSouthAsia.pdf _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From palaniappa at aol.com Sun Sep 8 07:48:07 2019 From: palaniappa at aol.com (Sudalaimuthu Palaniappan) Date: Sun, 08 Sep 19 02:48:07 -0500 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Another interesting study on Indian genetics - from The Hindu and the actual paper In-Reply-To: <476225057.2546525.1567893331048@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1FDB2B45-9DC3-4302-9DF0-DDDD3E848DAC@aol.com> In the Shinde, et. al., paper published in Cell, the authors seem to use a terminology that is not very clear. In the following sentence, what they are referring to by ?southeast? is really with respect to Rakhigarhi meaning locations in South Asia southeast of Rakhigarhi. ?The estimated proportion of ancestry related to tribal groups in southern India in I6113 is smaller than in present-day groups, suggesting that since the time of the IVC there has been gene flow into the part of South Asia where Rakhigarhi lies from both the northwest (bringing more Steppe ancestry) and southeast (bringing more ancestry related to tribal groups in southern India).? The people mentioned by ?ancestry related to tribal groups in southern India? South Asian Hunter Gatherers as can be seen in Fig. 3 of Narasimhan, et. al., published in Science. But Figure 3 of article by Shinde, et. al., calls the same people Southeast Asian Hunter Gatherers. This confusion of ?South Asians? versus ?Southeast Asians? has led to a popular magazine article (https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/09/indus-valley-civilization-dna-has-long-eluded-researchers/597481/) to state: ?What?s intriguing about I6113?s DNA is what she lacks: any of the steppe ancestry that is widespread in contemporary South Asians. Instead, she appeared to have a mix of Southeast Asian hunter-gatherer and Iranian-related ancestry.? Given so many common contributors for the two articles, how could this have come about? ?Or am I missing something? Thanks Regards Palaniappan From: INDOLOGY on behalf of Indology List Reply-To: Dean Michael Anderson Date: Saturday, September 7, 2019 at 4:56 PM To: Indology List , Steve Farmer Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Another interesting study on Indian genetics - from The Hindu and the actual paper I don't feel so bad about conflating the two articles now that I see they were both covered in the same article in Science Daily. How often does it happen that two important genetic studies covering South Asia appear at the same time? Interestingly, they also have many of the same authors: David Reich, Vagheesh M. Narasimhan, Nick Patterson, etc. Here is the link to the Science Daily article which summarizes both articles: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/09/190905145348.htm?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+sciencedaily%2Ftop_news%2Ftop_science+%28ScienceDaily%3A+Top+Science+News%29&utm_content=Yahoo%21+Mail and the direct link to the Rakhigarhi article published in Cell magazine which I was able to download in full: https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(19)30967-5?_returnURL=https%3A%2F%2Flinkinghub.elsevier.com%2Fretrieve%2Fpii%2FS0092867419309675%3Fshowall%3Dtrue Best, Dean On Saturday, September 7, 2019, 11:39:12 PM GMT+5:30, Dean Michael Anderson via INDOLOGY wrote: Thanks for the correction, Steve. It was indeed, as you observe, posted in too much haste. Best, Dean On Saturday, September 7, 2019, 11:24:11 PM GMT+5:30, Steve Farmer via INDOLOGY wrote: Dean - The Hindu story you just posted in Indology (below), based on Shinde?s very well-known claims, is certainly NOT based on Narasimhan et al. ? the paper I posted early on Indo-Eurasian Research, then on Indology, and that you just reposted below. Very different papers, published in different journals, and of totally unequal importance. Narasimhan et al. is based on finds involving 523 aDNA samples from Central Asia, S. Asia, and Iran. It is the largest study by far ever published on aDNA evidence re. Central Asia and South Asia. Shinde?s paper, cited by all the Hindutva types, is based on a single reconstructed aDNA sample of one (1) female skeleton discovered years ago by Shinde at Rakhigarh. If you have to read a news story about it rather than consulting the full paper (Shinde?s was published in Cell, not Science), read this story about it in Science, which doesn?t have a nationalist axe to grind: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/09/genome-nearly-5000-year-old-woman-links-modern-indians-ancient-civilization The skeleton showed genetic affinities, as you?ll see in the story, to aDNA samples from Iran and Turkmenistan, which supports lots of evidence of other sorts that the Indus Valley civilization was populated by peoples from outside India: not so nativist after all. Shinde?s paper carries a very misleading title: "An Ancient Harappan Genome Lacks Ancestry from Steppe Pastoralists or Iranian farmers? . True but devious and misleading: it does carry genes from outside India, so not so nativist after all. Maybe check your sources before posting? Steve On Sep 7, 2019, at 1:12 PM, Dean Michael Anderson via INDOLOGY wrote: ?Indus Valley settlers had a distinct genetic lineage? Throwing fresh light on the Indus Valley Civilisation, a study of DNA from skeletal remains excavated from the Harappan cemetery at Rakhigarhi argues that the hunter-gatherers of South Asia, who then became a settled people, have an independent origin. The researchers who conducted the study contend that the theory of the Harappans having Steppe pastoral or ancient Iranian farmer ancestry thus stands refuted. The finding also negates the hypothesis about mass migration during Harappan times from outside South Asia, they argue. https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/science/indus-valley-settlers-had-a-distinct-genetic-lineage/article29355941.ece Here is the actual paper since the journal is behind a paywall. https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/sites/reich.hms.harvard.edu/files/inline-files/2019_Science_NarasimhanPatterson_CentralSouthAsia.pdf _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From birendra176 at yahoo.com Sun Sep 8 09:29:10 2019 From: birendra176 at yahoo.com (Birendra Nath Prasad) Date: Sun, 08 Sep 19 09:29:10 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Request for some papers by Prof. Peter Skilling In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <304469323.4257818.1567934950995@mail.yahoo.com> Respected Colleagues, I need the following papers: 1. Skilling, P. 2014. 'Every Rise has its Fall': Thoughts on the History of Buddhism in Central India (Part I)?. In J.Soni et al (eds), Buddhist and Jaina Studies: Proceedings of the Conference in Lumbini, Nepal, February 2013. Lumbini: Lumbini International Research Institute. 2. Skilling, P. 2005. ?Buddhist Sealings?: Reflections on Terminology, Motivation, Donors? Status, School-affiliation and Print Technology?, in C. Jarrige and V.Lefevre (eds), South Asian Archaeology 2001, Vol. II: Historical Archaeology and Art History. Kindly share if you have PDF or scanned copies of these papers. With regards Dr. Birendra Nath Prasad Assistant Professor Centre for Historical Studies JNU, New Delhi-110067 Email: bnprasad at mail.jnu.ac.in https://www.jnu.ac.in/Faculty/bnprasad/cv.pdf On Saturday, September 7, 2019, 9:30:07 PM GMT+5:30, wrote: Send INDOLOGY mailing list submissions to ??? indology at list.indology.info To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit ??? http://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology_list.indology.info or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ??? indology-request at list.indology.info You can reach the person managing the list at ??? indology-owner at list.indology.info When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of INDOLOGY digest..." Today's Topics: ? 1. Recent article in Science on Rakhigarhi genome (Madhav Deshpande) ? 2. Re: Recent article in Science on Rakhigarhi genome (Steve Farmer) ? 3. Continuing my Krishna verses (Madhav Deshpande) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 17:47:55 -0700 From: Madhav Deshpande To: Indology ,? Bharatiya Vidvat parishad ??? Subject: [INDOLOGY] Recent article in Science on Rakhigarhi genome Message-ID: ??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Tried to access the recent article "The formation of human populations in South and Central Asia" by Vagheesh Narasimhan et al published in the journal Science [Sept 6, 2019], but could not get access to it through the University of Michigan Library.? I am wondering if someone has downloaded this article and can share with me.? Thanks. Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Sun Sep 8 14:00:09 2019 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Sun, 08 Sep 19 07:00:09 -0700 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Continuing my Krishna verses Message-ID: Continuing my Krishna verses ???????? ? ?? ???????????????????????????? ? ???????????? ??????? ???????? ????????? ????? ??????? O Krishna, other than you, there is nothing else for me to remember. I don't see anything other than you here. You have occupied the entire universe. Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From drdhaval2785 at gmail.com Sun Sep 8 14:28:51 2019 From: drdhaval2785 at gmail.com (Dhaval Patel) Date: Sun, 08 Sep 19 19:58:51 +0530 Subject: =?utf-8?B?W0lORE9MT0dZXSDgpKjgpL7gpKjgpL7gpLDgpY3gpKXgpK7gpJ7gpY3gpJzgpLDgpYAgb2Yg4KSw4KS+4KSY4KS1?= Message-ID: Dear Scholars, It is my pleasure to present the digitized version of the following book before you. N?n?rthama?jar? of R?ghava https://github.com/sanskrit-kosha/kosha/blob/master/nanarthamanjari_raghava/orig/nanarthamanjari.txt Credits - The work was digitized by Dr. P. Srinivas as part of Sansknet project. Some errors here and there have been corrected in the present work. N.B. - Some scholars have asked for an easier way to download the existing collection of Sanskrit koshas. https://github.com/sanskrit-kosha/kosha/archive/master.zip holds the data in zip format. Book_Author/orig/Book.txt is the usual place where you will find the text e.g. nanarthamanjari_raghava/orig/nanarthamanjari.txt -- Dr. Dhaval Patel, I.A.S Collector and District Magistrate, Surat www.sanskritworld.in -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martingansten at gmail.com Sun Sep 8 16:14:44 2019 From: martingansten at gmail.com (Martin Gansten) Date: Sun, 08 Sep 19 18:14:44 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Rampur Raza Library Message-ID: <10661350-76d8-9da1-23bb-ac09eca1bede@gmail.com> A fellow historian of astrology (not an Indologist, and so not a member of this list) has been trying with limited success to acquire copies of Arabic astrological MSS from Raza Library. If anyone should be able and willing to help, please contact me off-list. Thanks in advance, Martin Gansten From desimonedaniela at yahoo.it Sun Sep 8 21:07:16 2019 From: desimonedaniela at yahoo.it (Daniela De Simone) Date: Sun, 08 Sep 19 21:07:16 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] ECSAS 2020 - CfP on pilgrimage and the arts in South Asia In-Reply-To: <740341539.5904292.1567976836264.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <740341539.5904292.1567976836264@mail.yahoo.com> Dear All, Please find below the Call for Papers (ends 17 November) for a panel on pilgrimage and the arts at ECSAS 2020, which will be held in Vienna, 29th July-1 August. Abstracts can be?submitted here:?https://ecsas2020.univie.ac.at/panels/ifjqn/ Y?tr?: Rethinking Pilgrimage in South Asia through Art and Literature The conveners seek to explore new modes of thinking about pilgrimage in South Asia that stem from the analysis of artistic and literary evidence. The aim of this panel is to develop a multidisciplinary theoretical framework that applies a relational approach to the study of pilgrimage in South Asia. Convenors:? Daniela De Simone?The British Museum (London, United Kingdom) ? Sara Mondini?University of Venice 'Ca' Foscari' (Venice, Italy) ? Chiara Bellini?SOAS (London, United Kingdom) Long Abstract The conveners seek to explore new modes of thinking about pilgrimage in South Asia that stem from the analysis of artistic and literary evidence. Pilgrimage art and literature are not merely genres, they provide contexts in which the pilgrims? encounter with the divine, specific worship practices and ceremonies, and the art and architecture of pilgrimage sites are inextricably linked and simultaneously experienced.?The aim of this panel is to lay the foundations for the development of a multidisciplinary theoretical framework that applies a relational approach to the study of pilgrimage in South Asia.?For this purpose, the conveners have identified three interconnected themes:?Movements. The pilgrim journey requires movements across physical and cultural landscapes that are key features of pilgrimage itself. Pilgrimage also involves ritual movements, such as ceremonies and processions.?Places and objects. Pilgrimage sites historicise specific religious narratives, and may be sacred for other religious traditions (shared sites), or be places that were seized from another faith (contested sites). Moreover, pilgrimage has strong visual and material components as representations of the divine?either iconic or aniconic?are the main focus of sacred sites.?Hierophanies. Pilgrimage fosters intimate and collective experiences of the sacred and/or the divine, which reinforce and reaffirm religious identities.?We welcome submissions relating to any religious tradition or historical period in the fields of?but not limited to?anthropology, archaeology, art history, literature, and religious studies. The conveners plan to publish a selection of papers in an edited volume. Best regards, Daniela De Simone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com Sun Sep 8 22:04:19 2019 From: hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com (Harry Spier) Date: Sun, 08 Sep 19 18:04:19 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Identification of yantra Message-ID: Dear list members, Can anyone identify this yantra (attached jpg). 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On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 3:35 AM Harry Spier via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear list members, > > Can anyone identify this yantra (attached jpg). > Thanks, > Harry Spier > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. Director, Inter-Gurukula-University Centre , Indic Academy BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Cristina.Pecchia at oeaw.ac.at Mon Sep 9 12:39:56 2019 From: Cristina.Pecchia at oeaw.ac.at (cristina pecchia) Date: Mon, 09 Sep 19 14:39:56 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] On the transmission of the Sanskritic culture in the colonial period -- a panel at ECSAS 2020, Vienna 29th July-1 August 2020 Message-ID: <73f6f306-343a-9adc-0637-bc1a21375421@oeaw.ac.at> ECSAS 2020 ? Vienna 29th July-1 August 2020: On the transmission of the Sanskritic culture in the colonial period Dear All, one of the panels at the next 26th European Conference on South Asian Studies will be "On the transmission of the Sanskritic culture in the colonial period: Philology and print in South Asia". The panel aims to explore the transmission of texts of the Sanskritic culture in colonial South Asia by looking, in particular, at the publishers? entrepreneurship and the philological activity (namely editorial and interpretative practices) concerning Sanskrit texts. I would be happy to receive paper proposals on this topic. Paper proposals can be submitted here: https://ecsas2020.univie.ac.at/panels/fzjqb/ until November 17, 2019. Long abstract of the panel: Sanskrit literature preserved in manuscript (and oral) form was first printed in South Asia during the colonial period, when print technology was massively adopted in South Asia. The reproduction of Sanskrit works in print was the result of printer-publishers? entrepreneurship and of an intense philological activity, based on editorial and interpretative practices. The contours of both dimensions, namely publishing production and philology, are still quite nebulous. Valuable information can be gathered through an investigation of printed books, catalogues, library registers etc., and a comparison between the texts or textual corpora in manuscripts and printed books. The papers of the panel ?On the transmission of the Sanskritic culture in the colonial period: Philology and print in South Asia? will look at interpretative and editorial practices applied to Sanskrit texts, and explore publishing projects of printer-publishers. Furthermore, they will reflect on the impact and consequences that philological practices and publishers? entrepreneurship exerted on the transmission and diffusion of Sanskrit literature and, through it, of indigenous knowledge systems such as (but not limited to) philosophy, Yoga, or Ayurveda. Crossing disciplinary boundaries is a necessity as well as a challenge in this kind of investigation, since we need to explore how the Sanskritic culture extends into the colonial period. Also, we need to consider aspects of the social and cultural history of manuscripts and printed books, and their complex interplay in 19th and 20th century South Asia. 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URL: From dimitrov at staff.uni-marburg.de Mon Sep 9 15:32:25 2019 From: dimitrov at staff.uni-marburg.de (Dragomir Dimitrov) Date: Mon, 09 Sep 19 17:32:25 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] NEW BOOK: Sanskrit-Vademecum (Mehner/Hanneder) Message-ID: <5D767089.11804.14069546@dimitrov.staff.uni-marburg.de> NEW BOOK ANNOUNCEMENT Sanskrit-Vademecum Von Maximilian Mehner und J?rgen Hanneder Marburg 2019 Spiral binding, 92 pp. ISBN 978-3-923776-63-4 Price: 16.90 EUR SUMMARY (in German): Das Sanskrit-Vademecum ist ein Nachschlagewerk f?r Anf?nger und Fortgeschrittene, welches auf kleinem Raum viele n?tzliche ?bersichten bietet, die man bei der Sanskritlekt?re immer wieder ben?tigt. In Form von Tabellen, Verzeichnissen und Schaubildern werden Schriftsystem, Sandhi, Deklination, Konjugation, Morphologie, Komposition und Metrik des klassischen Sanskrit zusammengestellt und in einem Werk recherchierbar. F?r Fortgeschrittene kann das Vademecum zur one-stop solution werden, da die Deklination vollst?ndig behandelt ist und das Verbenverzeichnis einen schnellen Zugriff auf eine gro?e Zahl von flektierten Formen bietet. The book can be ordered at: http://www.iet-verlag.de ________________________________________ Dr. habil. Dragomir Dimitrov Heisenberg-Stelle (DFG) Indologie und Tibetologie Philipps-Universit?t Marburg Deutschhausstr. 12 D-35032 Marburg Germany E-mail: dimitrov at staff.uni-marburg.de http://www.uni-marburg.de/indologie ________________________________________ From hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com Mon Sep 9 20:58:21 2019 From: hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com (Harry Spier) Date: Mon, 09 Sep 19 16:58:21 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Identification of yantra In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Nagaraj, Its a symbol the late Dr. B. N. Pandit would put on all his publications. I was given the information off-list that it is a Trika based symbol invented by his teacher, who would write under the name of Am?tav?gbh?va. Harry Spier On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 12:17 AM Nagaraj Paturi wrote: > Can you share more details such as where you found it, what made you > consider that to be a yantra etc. ? > > On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 3:35 AM Harry Spier via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Dear list members, >> >> Can anyone identify this yantra (attached jpg). >> Thanks, >> Harry Spier >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > Director, Inter-Gurukula-University Centre , Indic Academy > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala > BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, > (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com Tue Sep 10 02:16:12 2019 From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 19 07:46:12 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Identification of yantra In-Reply-To: Message-ID: That sounds reasonable because that does not seem to be a Yantra. Thanks. On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 2:28 AM Harry Spier wrote: > Dear Nagaraj, > Its a symbol the late Dr. B. N. Pandit would put on all his publications. > I was given the information off-list that it is a Trika based symbol > invented by his teacher, who would write under the name of Am?tav?gbh?va. > Harry Spier > > On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 12:17 AM Nagaraj Paturi > wrote: > >> Can you share more details such as where you found it, what made you >> consider that to be a yantra etc. ? >> >> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 3:35 AM Harry Spier via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >>> Dear list members, >>> >>> Can anyone identify this yantra (attached jpg). >>> Thanks, >>> Harry Spier >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>> committee) >>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >>> or unsubscribe) >>> >> >> >> -- >> Nagaraj Paturi >> >> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >> >> >> Director, Inter-Gurukula-University Centre , Indic Academy >> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra >> BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala >> BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. >> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, >> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) >> >> >> >> > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. Director, Inter-Gurukula-University Centre , Indic Academy BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Tue Sep 10 13:32:29 2019 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 19 06:32:29 -0700 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Continuing my Krishna verses Message-ID: Continuing my Krishna verses ????????? ?????????? ????????? ????? ?????: ? ???? ??????? ????? ???? ?????? ?? ??????? Would I forget myself? You are the soul in my heart. There is only your image in the mirror of my mind. Madhav M. 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E.g. on p. 107 in a note discussing the form ???a?ai, "you bore, gave birth to". She calls it a perfective aspect formation, apparently typical of classical Tamil. On p. 82 she analyses ???y as a 2nd person singular perfective aspect "you became", i.e. "you are". I have a feeling that I have missed something (but then, I am not a linguist pur sang), namely when (or by whom) the term "aspect" has been introduced in classical Tamil studies (I am not talking about modern Tamil studies)? Tense is an obvious problem in classical Tamil poetry. has the concept of aspect been introduced to solve this problem? With the best wishes, Herman Herman Tieken Stationsweg 58 2515 BP Den Haag The Netherlands 00 31 (0)70 2208127 website: hermantieken.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From drdhaval2785 at gmail.com Wed Sep 11 15:21:40 2019 From: drdhaval2785 at gmail.com (Dhaval Patel) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 19 20:51:40 +0530 Subject: =?utf-8?B?W0lORE9MT0dZXSDgpKjgpL7gpK7gpK7gpL7gpLLgpL/gpJXgpL4gb2Yg4KSt4KWL4KSc?= Message-ID: Dear Scholars, It is my privilege to present before you unicode version of the following work - N?mam?lik? of Bhoja https://github.com/sanskrit-kosha/kosha/blob/master/namamalika_bhoja/orig/namamalika.txt Credits - 1. Dr. P. Srinivas, Sansknet project for digitizing the work. 2. Navya Sahiti Kasturi for proof reading the data. -- Dr. Dhaval Patel, I.A.S Collector and District Magistrate, Surat www.sanskritworld.in -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manufrancis at gmail.com Wed Sep 11 20:03:31 2019 From: manufrancis at gmail.com (Manu Francis) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 19 22:03:31 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] question on the use of the grammatical category of aspect in classical Tamil studies In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Herman, See: Eva Wilden GRAMMAR OF OLD TAMIL FOR STUDENTS 1 st Edition open-access here: https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/NETAMIL/halshs-01892342 With very best wishes. Emmanuel FRANCIS Charg? de recherche CNRS, Centre d'?tudes de l'Inde et de l'Asie du Sud (UMR 8564, EHESS-CNRS, Paris) Online CV HAL Regionalism & Cosmopolitism: South India Associate member, Centre for the Study of Manuscript Culture (SFB 950, Universit?t Hamburg) Le mer. 11 sept. 2019 ? 13:13, Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> a ?crit : > Dear List members, At the moment I am going through Lynn Ate, Tirma?kai > ??v?r's Five Shorter Works. At several occasions she uses the term > "aspect". E.g. on p. 107 in a note discussing the form ???a?ai, "you bore, > gave birth to". She calls it a perfective aspect formation, apparently > typical of classical Tamil. On p. 82 she analyses ???y as a 2nd person > singular perfective aspect "you became", i.e. "you are". > I have a feeling that I have missed something (but then, I am not a > linguist pur sang), namely when (or by whom) the term "aspect" has been > introduced in classical Tamil studies (I am not talking about modern Tamil > studies)? Tense is an obvious problem in classical Tamil poetry. has the > concept of aspect been introduced to solve this problem? > With the best wishes, Herman > > > Herman Tieken > Stationsweg 58 > 2515 BP Den Haag > The Netherlands > 00 31 (0)70 2208127 > website: hermantieken.com > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shrimaitreya at gmail.com Thu Sep 12 08:08:29 2019 From: shrimaitreya at gmail.com ((Maitreya) Borayin Larios) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 19 10:08:29 +0200 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_Critical_edition_of_the_Vi=E1=B9=A3=E1=B9=87upur=C4=81=E1=B9=87a?= Message-ID: Dear colleagues, I have seen the magic of this list work before, so I am giving it a try. I am writing to you on behalf of a friend who is looking for a scan of the critical edition of the Vi??upur??a edited by Pathak. She is aware of the etext by Peter Scharf, but she needs the page numbers to quote passages in her thesis and it is not available at her library. If anyone has this please contact me off-list. Thank you. Pathak, M.M. ed., 1999. *The critical edition of the Vi??upur??am* (Vol. 2). Baroda: Oriental Institute. Best, Borayin ___________________ Dr. lic. phil. Borayin Larios Institut f?r S?dasien-, Tibet- und Buddhismuskunde Bereich S?dasienkunde Uni-Campus AAKh, Hof 2.1 Spitalgasse 2-4 A-1090 Wien Office: +431427743518 Mobile: +43 676 5530274 (new) about.me/borayin.larios https://borayinlarios.academia.edu/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From Marion.Rastelli at oeaw.ac.at Thu Sep 12 14:00:36 2019 From: Marion.Rastelli at oeaw.ac.at (Rastelli, Marion) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 19 14:00:36 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] ECSAS 2020 panel: Marks of devotion: The construction and politics of religious identity through external signs Message-ID: <3f2f6c8cd6514fe4941dc597124da0e8@oeaw.ac.at> ECSAS 2020 - Call for Papers for the panel on "Marks of devotion: The construction and politics of religious identity through external signs" We would be very happy to accept papers for our panel at the ECSAS conference, 29 July - 1 August 2020, (https://ecsas2020.univie.ac.at) in Vienna. To submit a paper please go to: https://ecsas2020.univie.ac.at/panels/uhp0n/ Submission deadline: 17 November 2019. For further questions don't hesitate to contact marion.rastelli at oeaw.ac.at or nina.mirnig at oeaw.ac.at Marks of devotion: The construction and politics of religious identity through external signs The panel explores the historical circumstances in which signs worn on the body have been constructed to generate religious identity and how they are utilized in religio-political discourses. To reach a broader understanding of the processes involved, we invite papers from different disciplines. Convenors: ? Marion Rastelli, Austrian Academy of Sciences (Vienna, Austria) ? Nina Mirnig, Austrian Academy of Sciences (Vienna, Austria) ________________________________ Long Abstract One of the many ways to create group identity amongst a religious community is the use of external signs that are worn or inscribed on the body. This might involve special clothing or hair dress, ornaments, accessories, branding or make-up. Such signs may mark the result of transformation rituals, may be taken up temporarily as part of a particular observance, or simply serve to distinguish certain ranks and social groups within a religious community. These external religious signs are at times utilized in religio-political discourses for purposes of propagation, differentiation or exclusion of others. This panel is dedicated to identifying the historical circumstances in which such external signs have been explicitly drawn upon to negotiate competition or the contesting of power.It will also investigate the different avenues through which these material representations of religious identity are communicated. How are religious symbols constructed and contextualized in particular historical contexts? Which mythical, ritual and historical narratives are used for conferring meaning to these marks? How does the interpretation of such external religious symbols change according to political and historical circumstances and when can we identify an "invention of tradition"? When are such markers constructed by the community, when are they imposed by "others"? Exploring the different ways through which these discourses are negotiated - be it the ritual arena, scholastic debates, or narratives expressed in literature or through visual and performative art - the panel welcomes papers from different disciplines and religious foci, covering historical as well as modern case studies. Mag.Dr. Marion Rastelli Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia Austrian Academy of Sciences Hollandstra?e 11-13 1020 Vienna Austria Phone +43 1 51581 6417 Fax +43 1 51581 6410 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl Thu Sep 12 17:11:45 2019 From: H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl (Tieken, H.J.H.) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 19 17:11:45 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] question on the use of the grammatical category of aspect in classical Tamil studies In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Manu Thank you very much for the information. Aspect has thus entered classical Tamil studies only last year. What I have seen of it, the book does not offer a full-fledged explanation of the category of aspect in Ca?kam Tamil texts. Aspect is just called in here and there. I wonder what use it has for a proper understanding of the texts. On p. 156 a line from Ku?untokai 275 is quoted: ka??a?am varuka? ce?m? t??i, in which ka??a?am would have an "aspectual impact". What is that? (but one again, I am not a linguist pur sang). The woman speaking in this poem says to her companion "you go, we, being persons who have seen, will come back", that is, "you go, (don't be afraid, we are not running away) we will come back after we have seen/have found out if the bell we hear is the bell of a cow coming back from the fields or the one from the chariot of my husband/lover returning from the battle field". With the best wishes, Herman Herman Tieken Stationsweg 58 2515 BP Den Haag The Netherlands 00 31 (0)70 2208127 website: hermantieken.com ________________________________ Van: Manu Francis [manufrancis at gmail.com] Verzonden: woensdag 11 september 2019 22:03 Aan: Tieken, H.J.H. CC: Indology Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] question on the use of the grammatical category of aspect in classical Tamil studies Dear Herman, See: Eva Wilden GRAMMAR OF OLD TAMIL FOR STUDENTS 1 st Edition open-access here: https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/NETAMIL/halshs-01892342 With very best wishes. Emmanuel FRANCIS Charg? de recherche CNRS, Centre d'?tudes de l'Inde et de l'Asie du Sud (UMR 8564, EHESS-CNRS, Paris) Online CV HAL Regionalism & Cosmopolitism: South India Associate member, Centre for the Study of Manuscript Culture (SFB 950, Universit?t Hamburg) Le mer. 11 sept. 2019 ? 13:13, Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY > a ?crit : Dear List members, At the moment I am going through Lynn Ate, Tirma?kai ??v?r's Five Shorter Works. At several occasions she uses the term "aspect". E.g. on p. 107 in a note discussing the form ???a?ai, "you bore, gave birth to". She calls it a perfective aspect formation, apparently typical of classical Tamil. On p. 82 she analyses ???y as a 2nd person singular perfective aspect "you became", i.e. "you are". I have a feeling that I have missed something (but then, I am not a linguist pur sang), namely when (or by whom) the term "aspect" has been introduced in classical Tamil studies (I am not talking about modern Tamil studies)? Tense is an obvious problem in classical Tamil poetry. has the concept of aspect been introduced to solve this problem? With the best wishes, Herman Herman Tieken Stationsweg 58 2515 BP Den Haag The Netherlands 00 31 (0)70 2208127 website: hermantieken.com _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From beitel at email.gwu.edu Thu Sep 12 21:50:10 2019 From: beitel at email.gwu.edu (Alfred Hiltebeitel) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 19 17:50:10 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] (no subject) Message-ID: Dear colleagues, There are two works I need. Is it possible that one or more of you could supply me with either of them? Daniel H. H. Ingalls, ?Words for Beauty in Classical Sanskrit Poetry,? in Studies in Honor of W. Norman Brown, 87-107, New Haven: American Oriental Society. And, Eveline Meyer, ?the Greatness of Ankalaparamecuvari, told through the story of how Paramacivan plucked the head of Piramma in the play called the destruction of Turuvacar,? in: Lothar Lutze, Ed. Drama in Contemporary South Asia: Variations and Settings, South Asian Digest of Regional Writing, vol. 10 (1981), Heidelberg (sorry but my. Source does not list the pages) Many thanks, Alf Hiltebeitel Sent from my iPad From mmdesh at umich.edu Fri Sep 13 13:42:27 2019 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 19 06:42:27 -0700 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Continuing my Krishna verses Message-ID: Continuing my Krishna verses ?????? ??? ????? ???????????? ?? ? ???????? ??????????? ?????? ?????? ?? ??????? O my best friend, you yourself tell me how I can report what is bothering my mind to anyone other than you. Madhav M. 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Rao Road Hyderabad-500 046 (91) 040 23133802(off) http://scl.samsaadhanii.in http://sanskrit.uohyd.ac.in/scl http://tdil-dc.in/scl http://sanskrit.uohyd.ac.in/faculty/amba -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wujastyk at gmail.com Sat Sep 14 00:20:24 2019 From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 19 18:20:24 -0600 Subject: [INDOLOGY] (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The Ingalls is in Bender 1962 . On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 at 15:50, Alfred Hiltebeitel via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > Dear colleagues, > > There are two works I need. Is it possible that one or more of you could > supply me with either of them? > > Daniel H. H. Ingalls, ?Words for Beauty in Classical Sanskrit Poetry,? in > Studies in Honor of W. Norman Brown, 87-107, New Haven: American Oriental > Society. > > And, > > Eveline Meyer, ?the Greatness of Ankalaparamecuvari, told through the > story of how Paramacivan plucked the head of Piramma in the play called the > destruction of Turuvacar,? in: Lothar Lutze, Ed. Drama in Contemporary > South Asia: Variations and Settings, South Asian Digest of Regional > Writing, vol. 10 (1981), Heidelberg (sorry but my. Source does not list the > pages) > > Many thanks, > > Alf Hiltebeitel > > Sent from my iPad > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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O Krishna, you are the most desirable, generous and a refuge, O Lord. You are always my friend. Don't let me loose from that friendship. Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jessie.pons at ruhr-uni-bochum.de Sat Sep 14 14:04:40 2019 From: jessie.pons at ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Jessie Pons) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 19 16:04:40 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Out-of-body experience in Indian religions Message-ID: Dear list-members, A colleague is developing a research project on Out-of-body experiences in religious contexts at the turn of the common era and would be interested in comparing her material (her focus is on the Mediterranean world) with that of other regions. I have mentioned Buddhaghosa's Visuddhimagga and the Yoga-V?si??ha (though I understand this is a later source) but I would be very grateful to anyone who could suggest additional or more pertinent sources. Thank you very much in advance for any help you can provide! All best, Jessie Pons -- Jun.-Prof. Dr. Jessie Pons Professor for the History of South Asian Religions CERES ? Centre for the Study of Religions K?te-Hamburger-Kolleg ?Dynamics in the History of Religions between Asia and Europe" Ruhr-Universit?t Bochum Universit?tsstra?e 90a 44789 Bochum Tel. 02 34 32 22955 E-Mail: jessie.pons at rub.de Room 1/04 From eastwestcultural at yahoo.com Sat Sep 14 15:02:00 2019 From: eastwestcultural at yahoo.com (Dean Michael Anderson) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 19 15:02:00 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Out-of-body experience in Indian religions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <306536223.4893518.1568473320014@mail.yahoo.com> There must be many stories of things like this in texts like the Puranas, but these two references come to mind. ) The biography of Shankara mentions him leaving his body and entering the body of a king. Shankara-dig-vijaya is one of the classic texts on this. Perhaps some know of other sources. 2) Yoga Sutra III.38 says: By loosening the cause of bondage and through sensitivity to themovements (of the mind), consciousness can enter another body. bandhakaaraNashaithilyaatprachaarasaMvedanaachchachittasya parasharIraaveshaH Best, Dean On Saturday, September 14, 2019, 7:35:26 PM GMT+5:30, Jessie Pons via INDOLOGY wrote: Dear list-members, A colleague is developing a research project on Out-of-body experiences in religious contexts at the turn of the common era and would be interested in comparing her material (her focus is on the Mediterranean world) with that of other regions. I have mentioned Buddhaghosa's Visuddhimagga and the Yoga-V?si??ha (though I understand this is a later source) but I would be very grateful to anyone who could suggest additional or more pertinent sources. Thank you very much in advance for any help you can provide! All best, Jessie Pons -- Jun.-Prof. Dr. Jessie Pons Professor for the History of South Asian Religions CERES ? Centre for the Study of Religions K?te-Hamburger-Kolleg ?Dynamics in the History of Religions between Asia and Europe" Ruhr-Universit?t Bochum Universit?tsstra?e 90a 44789 Bochum Tel. 02 34 32 22955 E-Mail: jessie.pons at rub.de Room 1/04 _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mkapstei at uchicago.edu Sat Sep 14 15:28:27 2019 From: mkapstei at uchicago.edu (Matthew Kapstein) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 19 15:28:27 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Out-of-body experience in Indian religions In-Reply-To: <306536223.4893518.1568473320014@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: For materials closer to the period you are looking at - i.e. beginning of CE -- I would suggest the stories of the arhat Maudgalyayana in the Mahavastu-avadana (trans. Jones) and the Saundarananda of Asvaghosa (trans. Johnston or Covill). good luck! Matthew Kapstein Directeur d'?tudes, Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, The University of Chicago ________________________________ From: INDOLOGY on behalf of Dean Michael Anderson via INDOLOGY Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 10:02 AM To: indology at list.indology.info ; Jessie Pons Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Out-of-body experience in Indian religions There must be many stories of things like this in texts like the Puranas, but these two references come to mind. ) The biography of Shankara mentions him leaving his body and entering the body of a king. Shankara-dig-vijaya is one of the classic texts on this. Perhaps some know of other sources. 2) Yoga Sutra III.38 says: By loosening the cause of bondage and through sensitivity to the movements (of the mind), consciousness can enter another body. bandhakaaraNashaithilyaatprachaarasaMvedanaachcha chittasya parasharIraaveshaH Best, Dean On Saturday, September 14, 2019, 7:35:26 PM GMT+5:30, Jessie Pons via INDOLOGY wrote: Dear list-members, A colleague is developing a research project on Out-of-body experiences in religious contexts at the turn of the common era and would be interested in comparing her material (her focus is on the Mediterranean world) with that of other regions. I have mentioned Buddhaghosa's Visuddhimagga and the Yoga-V?si??ha (though I understand this is a later source) but I would be very grateful to anyone who could suggest additional or more pertinent sources. Thank you very much in advance for any help you can provide! All best, Jessie Pons -- Jun.-Prof. Dr. Jessie Pons Professor for the History of South Asian Religions CERES ? Centre for the Study of Religions K?te-Hamburger-Kolleg ?Dynamics in the History of Religions between Asia and Europe" Ruhr-Universit?t Bochum Universit?tsstra?e 90a 44789 Bochum Tel. 02 34 32 22955 E-Mail: jessie.pons at rub.de Room 1/04 _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aleksandar.uskokov at yale.edu Sat Sep 14 15:42:50 2019 From: aleksandar.uskokov at yale.edu (Uskokov, Aleksandar) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 19 15:42:50 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Out-of-body experience in Indian religions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Some further material will be available in "The Roots of Yoga" by James Mallinson and Mark Singleton, the chapter on siddhis, I believe. Best wishes Aleksandar Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: INDOLOGY on behalf of Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 11:28:27 AM To: indology at list.indology.info ; Jessie Pons ; Dean Michael Anderson Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Out-of-body experience in Indian religions For materials closer to the period you are looking at - i.e. beginning of CE -- I would suggest the stories of the arhat Maudgalyayana in the Mahavastu-avadana (trans. Jones) and the Saundarananda of Asvaghosa (trans. Johnston or Covill). good luck! Matthew Kapstein Directeur d'?tudes, Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, The University of Chicago ________________________________ From: INDOLOGY on behalf of Dean Michael Anderson via INDOLOGY Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 10:02 AM To: indology at list.indology.info ; Jessie Pons Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Out-of-body experience in Indian religions There must be many stories of things like this in texts like the Puranas, but these two references come to mind. ) The biography of Shankara mentions him leaving his body and entering the body of a king. Shankara-dig-vijaya is one of the classic texts on this. Perhaps some know of other sources. 2) Yoga Sutra III.38 says: By loosening the cause of bondage and through sensitivity to the movements (of the mind), consciousness can enter another body. bandhakaaraNashaithilyaatprachaarasaMvedanaachcha chittasya parasharIraaveshaH Best, Dean On Saturday, September 14, 2019, 7:35:26 PM GMT+5:30, Jessie Pons via INDOLOGY wrote: Dear list-members, A colleague is developing a research project on Out-of-body experiences in religious contexts at the turn of the common era and would be interested in comparing her material (her focus is on the Mediterranean world) with that of other regions. I have mentioned Buddhaghosa's Visuddhimagga and the Yoga-V?si??ha (though I understand this is a later source) but I would be very grateful to anyone who could suggest additional or more pertinent sources. Thank you very much in advance for any help you can provide! All best, Jessie Pons -- Jun.-Prof. Dr. Jessie Pons Professor for the History of South Asian Religions CERES ? Centre for the Study of Religions K?te-Hamburger-Kolleg ?Dynamics in the History of Religions between Asia and Europe" Ruhr-Universit?t Bochum Universit?tsstra?e 90a 44789 Bochum Tel. 02 34 32 22955 E-Mail: jessie.pons at rub.de Room 1/04 _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mkapstei at uchicago.edu Sat Sep 14 16:16:33 2019 From: mkapstei at uchicago.edu (Matthew Kapstein) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 19 16:16:33 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] book search In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear friends, Is it possible that one of you has a pdf of R. Iyengar's 1944 (or 1952?) Mysore edition of the TarkabhASa of MokSAkaragupta? It is not available in archive.org or in any of the libraries I can access just now. WorldCat reports copies at Harvard, Emory, Oxford and the New York Public Library. with thanks in advance, Matthew Matthew Kapstein Directeur d'?tudes, Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, The University of Chicago ________________________________ From: Uskokov, Aleksandar Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 10:42 AM To: Matthew Kapstein ; indology at list.indology.info ; Jessie Pons ; Dean Michael Anderson Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Out-of-body experience in Indian religions Some further material will be available in "The Roots of Yoga" by James Mallinson and Mark Singleton, the chapter on siddhis, I believe. Best wishes Aleksandar Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: INDOLOGY on behalf of Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 11:28:27 AM To: indology at list.indology.info ; Jessie Pons ; Dean Michael Anderson Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Out-of-body experience in Indian religions For materials closer to the period you are looking at - i.e. beginning of CE -- I would suggest the stories of the arhat Maudgalyayana in the Mahavastu-avadana (trans. Jones) and the Saundarananda of Asvaghosa (trans. Johnston or Covill). good luck! Matthew Kapstein Directeur d'?tudes, Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, The University of Chicago ________________________________ From: INDOLOGY on behalf of Dean Michael Anderson via INDOLOGY Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 10:02 AM To: indology at list.indology.info ; Jessie Pons Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Out-of-body experience in Indian religions There must be many stories of things like this in texts like the Puranas, but these two references come to mind. ) The biography of Shankara mentions him leaving his body and entering the body of a king. Shankara-dig-vijaya is one of the classic texts on this. Perhaps some know of other sources. 2) Yoga Sutra III.38 says: By loosening the cause of bondage and through sensitivity to the movements (of the mind), consciousness can enter another body. bandhakaaraNashaithilyaatprachaarasaMvedanaachcha chittasya parasharIraaveshaH Best, Dean On Saturday, September 14, 2019, 7:35:26 PM GMT+5:30, Jessie Pons via INDOLOGY wrote: Dear list-members, A colleague is developing a research project on Out-of-body experiences in religious contexts at the turn of the common era and would be interested in comparing her material (her focus is on the Mediterranean world) with that of other regions. I have mentioned Buddhaghosa's Visuddhimagga and the Yoga-V?si??ha (though I understand this is a later source) but I would be very grateful to anyone who could suggest additional or more pertinent sources. Thank you very much in advance for any help you can provide! All best, Jessie Pons -- Jun.-Prof. Dr. Jessie Pons Professor for the History of South Asian Religions CERES ? Centre for the Study of Religions K?te-Hamburger-Kolleg ?Dynamics in the History of Religions between Asia and Europe" Ruhr-Universit?t Bochum Universit?tsstra?e 90a 44789 Bochum Tel. 02 34 32 22955 E-Mail: jessie.pons at rub.de Room 1/04 _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martingansten at gmail.com Sat Sep 14 16:19:29 2019 From: martingansten at gmail.com (Martin Gansten) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 19 18:19:29 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Out-of-body experience in Indian religions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3b0f3a28-b43b-9770-a36f-6710e31fd1be@gmail.com> It might be useful in this context to distinguish between out-of-body experiences (OBEs) as such and the (purported) phenomenon of entering someone else's body (parak?yaprave?a), which is what some of the references given so far discuss. Granted, the latter may presuppose the former, but they are not the same. Parak?yaprave?a is of course a major topic of David White's /Sinister Yogis/, which would be accessible to a non-specialist (though I would recommend reading it together with James Mallinson's critical review). Martin Gansten -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bclough9377 at gmail.com Sat Sep 14 16:57:59 2019 From: bclough9377 at gmail.com (Bradley Clough) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 19 10:57:59 -0600 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Out-of-body experience in Indian religions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This probably goes down a rabbit hole that Jessie's colleague wouldn't be interested in, but Jessie's referencing the Visuddhimagga and Matthew's referencing tales of Maudgalyayana's journeys makes me think that in Buddhist contexts at least, these experiences were typically assumed to be had with what was termed a "body made of mind" (manomaya k?ya [two words] or manomayak?ya [one compounded word], depending on the source). This raises the question of whether or not these experiences were literally "out-of-body". The P?li sources I'm familiar with at least typically say the manomaya k?ya is "r?pin", in other words it has form. But I suppose that might well take us into the issue of whether or not terms like "k?ya" and "r?pin" connote PHYSICAL form in these contexts... But to get back to Jessie's colleague's interests, among the many Buddhist sources that speak of such journeying to other realms by arhats, the Sanskrit ones that Matthew cited are indeed the ones that we can most reliably date as closest to the Common Era's beginnings, the specific period that this colleague is apparently focusing on. Brad Clough On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 9:29 AM Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > For materials closer to the period you are looking at - i.e. beginning of > CE -- I would suggest the stories of the arhat Maudgalyayana in the > Mahavastu-avadana (trans. Jones) and the Saundarananda of Asvaghosa (trans. > Johnston or Covill). > > good luck! > > Matthew Kapstein > Directeur d'?tudes, > Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes > > Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, > The University of Chicago > ------------------------------ > *From:* INDOLOGY on behalf of Dean > Michael Anderson via INDOLOGY > *Sent:* Saturday, September 14, 2019 10:02 AM > *To:* indology at list.indology.info ; Jessie > Pons > *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] Out-of-body experience in Indian religions > > There must be many stories of things like this in texts like the Puranas, > but these two references come to mind. > > ) The biography of Shankara mentions him leaving his body and entering the > body of a king. Shankara-dig-vijaya is one of the classic texts on this. > Perhaps some know of other sources. > > 2) Yoga Sutra III.38 says: > > By loosening the cause of bondage and through sensitivity to the movements > (of the mind), consciousness can enter another body. > > bandhakaaraNashaithilyaatprachaarasaMvedanaachcha chittasya > parasharIraaveshaH > > Best, > > Dean > > On Saturday, September 14, 2019, 7:35:26 PM GMT+5:30, Jessie Pons via > INDOLOGY wrote: > > > Dear list-members, > > A colleague is developing a research project on Out-of-body experiences > in religious contexts at the turn of the common era and would be > interested in comparing her material (her focus is on the Mediterranean > world) with that of other regions. > > I have mentioned Buddhaghosa's Visuddhimagga and the Yoga-V?si??ha > (though I understand this is a later source) but I would be very > grateful to anyone who could suggest additional or more pertinent > sources. > > Thank you very much in advance for any help you can provide! > > All best, > Jessie Pons > > -- > Jun.-Prof. Dr. Jessie Pons > Professor for the History of South Asian Religions > CERES ? Centre for the Study of Religions > K?te-Hamburger-Kolleg ?Dynamics in the History of Religions between Asia > and Europe" > Ruhr-Universit?t Bochum > Universit?tsstra?e 90a > 44789 Bochum > Tel. 02 34 32 22955 > E-Mail: jessie.pons at rub.de > Room 1/04 > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From prajnapti at gmail.com Sat Sep 14 17:24:32 2019 From: prajnapti at gmail.com (Dan Lusthaus) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 19 13:24:32 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Out-of-body experience in Indian religions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <6D246AA2-B0DD-4754-BF55-7257C8878221@gmail.com> On the Buddhist side, out of body wandering is often associated with nirodha-sam?patti, a high-level meditative condition, which Buddha himself apparently engaged in, in which one?s body is barely distinguishable from a corpse, displaying almost no vital signs. Buddhaghosa?s Visuddhimagga gives various accounts, including ones in which the body, mistaken for dead, is disposed of, so that when the consciousness returns looking for it, it is not there. One can enter nirodha-sam?patti for a short while, or up to several weeks. One supposedly sets in internal timer before entering it, marking the time when one becomes re-animated. The stories he references can be found in earlier sources. But as Bradley, I think rightly, cautioned, the concept of out-of-body experiences gets complicated in Buddhist context. When Buddha (or others, such as Moggall?na) visit deva realms or hells, etc. or manifest multitudes of alternate bodies elsewhere, etc., there is often (but not always) the presumption that one?s basic body is still in place, perhaps even functioning and performing daily activities. So there are many ways that one can be active and have experiences outside of one?s basic body. One of the ?ddhis, the ?super? powers that advanced practitioners may achieve, includes a ?divine eye? that can see anywhere, not just where one?s body happens to be. Would that also qualify? Dan > On Sep 14, 2019, at 12:57 PM, Bradley Clough via INDOLOGY wrote: > > This probably goes down a rabbit hole that Jessie's colleague wouldn't be interested in, but Jessie's referencing the Visuddhimagga and Matthew's referencing tales of Maudgalyayana's journeys makes me think that in Buddhist contexts at least, these experiences were typically assumed to be had with what was termed a "body made of mind" (manomaya k?ya [two words] or manomayak?ya [one compounded word], depending on the source). This raises the question of whether or not these experiences were literally "out-of-body". The P?li sources I'm familiar with at least typically say the manomaya k?ya is "r?pin", in other words it has form. But I suppose that might well take us into the issue of whether or not terms like "k?ya" and "r?pin" connote PHYSICAL form in these contexts... > > But to get back to Jessie's colleague's interests, among the many Buddhist sources that speak of such journeying to other realms by arhats, the Sanskrit ones that Matthew cited are indeed the ones that we can most reliably date as closest to the Common Era's beginnings, the specific period that this colleague is apparently focusing on. > > Brad Clough > > On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 9:29 AM Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY > wrote: > For materials closer to the period you are looking at - i.e. beginning of CE -- I would suggest the stories of the arhat Maudgalyayana in the Mahavastu-avadana (trans. Jones) and the Saundarananda of Asvaghosa (trans. Johnston or Covill). > > good luck! > > Matthew Kapstein > Directeur d'?tudes, > Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes > > Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, > The University of Chicago > From: INDOLOGY > on behalf of Dean Michael Anderson via INDOLOGY > > Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 10:02 AM > To: indology at list.indology.info >; Jessie Pons > > Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Out-of-body experience in Indian religions > > There must be many stories of things like this in texts like the Puranas, but these two references come to mind. > > ) The biography of Shankara mentions him leaving his body and entering the body of a king. Shankara-dig-vijaya is one of the classic texts on this. Perhaps some know of other sources. > > 2) Yoga Sutra III.38 says: > By loosening the cause of bondage and through sensitivity to the movements (of the mind), consciousness can enter another body. > bandhakaaraNashaithilyaatprachaarasaMvedanaachcha chittasya parasharIraaveshaH > > Best, > > Dean > > On Saturday, September 14, 2019, 7:35:26 PM GMT+5:30, Jessie Pons via INDOLOGY > wrote: > > > Dear list-members, > > A colleague is developing a research project on Out-of-body experiences > in religious contexts at the turn of the common era and would be > interested in comparing her material (her focus is on the Mediterranean > world) with that of other regions. > > I have mentioned Buddhaghosa's Visuddhimagga and the Yoga-V?si??ha > (though I understand this is a later source) but I would be very > grateful to anyone who could suggest additional or more pertinent > sources. > > Thank you very much in advance for any help you can provide! > > All best, > Jessie Pons > > -- > Jun.-Prof. Dr. Jessie Pons > Professor for the History of South Asian Religions > CERES ? Centre for the Study of Religions > K?te-Hamburger-Kolleg ?Dynamics in the History of Religions between Asia > and Europe" > Ruhr-Universit?t Bochum > Universit?tsstra?e 90a > 44789 Bochum > Tel. 02 34 32 22955 > E-Mail: jessie.pons at rub.de > Room 1/04 > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From r.mahoney at indica-et-buddhica.org Sat Sep 14 23:52:27 2019 From: r.mahoney at indica-et-buddhica.org (Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 19 11:52:27 +1200 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_Tarkabh=C4=81_and_V=C4=81dasth=C4=81na_..._edited_by_H.R._Rangaswami_Iyengar?= Message-ID: <61fb350a7f9cc58da7e10158627f8fcdd97b083e.camel@indica-et-buddhica.org> Dear Matthew, Here are the details: Tarkabh??a and V?dasth?na of Mok??karagupta and Jit?rip?da / edited by H.R. Rangaswami Iyengar ; with a foreword by Vidhu?ekhara Bhatt?charya (Mysore : Printed at the Hindusthan Press, 1952) And more if you click on "Full record" here: IeB Scholia http://bit.ly/2kMy6Me And then down the page under "Holdings." Its looking like a photocopy is held by the Library of Graduate School of Letters and Faculty of Letters, Kyoto University. Maybe they'll send through a PDF? Best, Richard -- Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica Littledene Bay Road Oxford NZ T: +6433121699 M: +64210640216 r.mahoney at indica-et-buddhica.org https://indica-et-buddhica.org/ From mkapstei at uchicago.edu Sun Sep 15 04:55:21 2019 From: mkapstei at uchicago.edu (Matthew Kapstein) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 19 04:55:21 +0000 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Tarkabh=E3=83=BB=E3=83=BB_and_V=C4=81dasth=C4=81na_..._edited_by_H.R._Rangaswami_Iyengar?= In-Reply-To: <61fb350a7f9cc58da7e10158627f8fcdd97b083e.camel@indica-et-buddhica.org> Message-ID: Thanks Richard, I now have a copy. best, Matthew Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: INDOLOGY on behalf of Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica via INDOLOGY Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 1:52:27 AM To: Indology Subject: [INDOLOGY] Tarkabh?? and V?dasth?na ... edited by H.R. Rangaswami Iyengar Dear Matthew, Here are the details: Tarkabh??a and V?dasth?na of Mok??karagupta and Jit?rip?da / edited by H.R. Rangaswami Iyengar ; with a foreword by Vidhu?ekhara Bhatt?charya (Mysore : Printed at the Hindusthan Press, 1952) And more if you click on "Full record" here: IeB Scholia http://bit.ly/2kMy6Me And then down the page under "Holdings." Its looking like a photocopy is held by the Library of Graduate School of Letters and Faculty of Letters, Kyoto University. Maybe they'll send through a PDF? Best, Richard -- Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica Littledene Bay Road Oxford NZ T: +6433121699 M: +64210640216 r.mahoney at indica-et-buddhica.org https://indica-et-buddhica.org/ _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jessie.pons at ruhr-uni-bochum.de Sun Sep 15 07:24:31 2019 From: jessie.pons at ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Jessie Pons) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 19 09:24:31 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Out-of-body experience in Indian religions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <81775df90ec59dd119c5ac163e55bd38@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Thank you all for the very swift and helpful replies I have received both on- and off-list! I will go through the sources you have mentioned with my colleague and see whether they fit into her working definition of OBE (which I believe is quite loose for the time being). With best wishes, Jessie On 2019-09-14 16:04, Jessie Pons wrote: > Dear list-members, > > A colleague is developing a research project on Out-of-body > experiences in religious contexts at the turn of the common era and > would be interested in comparing her material (her focus is on the > Mediterranean world) with that of other regions. > > I have mentioned Buddhaghosa's Visuddhimagga and the Yoga-V?si??ha > (though I understand this is a later source) but I would be very > grateful to anyone who could suggest additional or more pertinent > sources. > > Thank you very much in advance for any help you can provide! > > All best, > Jessie Pons > > -- > Jun.-Prof. Dr. Jessie Pons > Professor for the History of South Asian Religions > CERES ? Centre for the Study of Religions > K?te-Hamburger-Kolleg ?Dynamics in the History of Religions between > Asia and Europe" > Ruhr-Universit?t Bochum > Universit?tsstra?e 90a > 44789 Bochum > Tel. 02 34 32 22955 > E-Mail: jessie.pons at rub.de > Room 1/04 -- Jun.-Prof. Dr. Jessie Pons Professor for the History of South Asian Religions CERES ? Centre for the Study of Religions K?te-Hamburger-Kolleg ?Dynamics in the History of Religions between Asia and Europe" Ruhr-Universit?t Bochum Universit?tsstra?e 90a 44789 Bochum Tel. 02 34 32 22955 E-Mail: jessie.pons at rub.de Room 1/04 From eastwestcultural at yahoo.com Sun Sep 15 07:34:25 2019 From: eastwestcultural at yahoo.com (Dean Michael Anderson) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 19 07:34:25 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] history of the concept of the indriyas in Hinduism and Buddhism In-Reply-To: <601623817.5001086.1568532865299.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <601623817.5001086.1568532865299@mail.yahoo.com> Can anyone point me to some publications on the first attestations of the indriyas and how the concept developed in Hinduism and Buddhism? Thanks, Dean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From christoph.emmrich at utoronto.ca Sun Sep 15 14:56:34 2019 From: christoph.emmrich at utoronto.ca (Christoph Emmrich) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 19 14:56:34 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] new University of Toronto Burmese Pali digital manuscript archive live Message-ID: Dear Colleagues, It is a true pleasure for me to draw your attention to a new online resource for the study of Burmese Pali texts: the Myanmar Manuscript Digital Library (MMDL). Located at https://mmdl.utoronto.ca/, housed at the University of Toronto, and supported by Toronto?s Robarts Library, the site makes available for public retrieval manuscripts from Burma in digitized form, collected under the direction of the Pali Text Society?s William Pruitt, with the support of Yumi Ousaka from the Sendai College of Technology, and together with an impressive team of scholars, technicians, and volunteers from Burma and abroad. Thanks for making this ongoing digitization project possible go to the Pali Text Society and Rupert Gethin, the Sendai National College of Technology and Sunao Kasamatsu, the KDDI Foundation, the Mitsubishi Foundation, the CARI Foundation, and the JSPS Kakenhi. Further team members include Aleix Ruiz Falque?, Kazuhiro Fujiwara, Yukata Kawasaki, Professor Miao, U Aung Moe Oo, U Nyunt Maung, Win Htay, and Markus W?rg?tter. The University of Toronto and Robarts Library have offered and have helped establish the electronic infrastructure for this archive. Even more importantly, they have created the conditions for the long-term sustainability of this archive, facilitating the dissemination of the results of this unique and impressive effort for times to come. To begin with, this digital archive comprises the contents of the U Po Thi Library, containing some 775 palm-leaf manuscripts and located in Thaton, Mon State. However, as the digitization project unfolds further, it is envisaged that the contents of more Burmese archives will added, increasing further the volume and range of sources and thus the value provided by this site. My most sincere words of gratitude for making this site possible go to William Pruitt, without whose vision, work, persistence, and cheerfulness the world of Burma and Pali Studies would not be able to so easily access these treasures. I thank him particularly for the patience with which he has accompanied us at the University of Toronto, offering his advice and support along the lengthy path it took us to make this website accessible to you today. I would also like to thank the team at the University of Toronto and at Robarts Library, most of all Priyadharshini Murugaiah and Sian Meikle, for giving our site a home. I would like to thank Jeffrey Bermejo for creating this site in the first place and for taking care of it as it develops further. Should you have questions regarding the site, please do not hesitate to reach out to me. I will do my best to answer your questions or to redirect them to those colleagues and friends who are more informed than me. 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Best regards, Eva Vernacular Mah?bh?ratas in Text and Performance This panel will explore the multitude of Maha?bha?rata retellings in vernacular languages in all genres, from 'classic' texts, to performances, to popular media, including versions from Muslim, Jain and other communities, and ritual performances from diverse regions of the Subcontinent and beyond. id: iu8uk Convenors: ? Eva De Clercq Ghent University (Gent, Belgium) ? Heike Oberlin Dept. of Indology and Comparative Religion, Eberhard Karls University of T?bingen, Germany (T?bingen, Germany) ? Heidi Pauwels Asian Languages and Literature, University of Washington, Seattle, USA (Seattle, United States of America) ________________________________ Long Abstract Scholarly attention to the Indian epics has largely focused on the Sanskrit versions. However, just as is the case with the R?m?ya?a, as A.K. Ramanujan explains in his influential article ?Three hundred Ramayanas? (1991), there are innumerable vernacular Mah?bh?ratas. Compared to the vernacular R?m?ya?as, very little work has been done on the these. In the past decades, there have been at least two conferences in India that included contributions on vernacular and performative Mah?bh?ratas (Singh 1993 and Trikha 2006), and in the US, a panel on ?Many Mah?bh?ratas? was organized at the yearly South Asia Conference in Madison in 2017, the outcome of which will be published in an edited volume (Pillai & Hawley 2019). On this base we aim to push international research and studies on the multiple vernacular versions of the Mah?bh?ratas, with special attention to performative aspects, audiences and political circumstances. To complement the panel organizers? own diverse research on Keralese performance versions (Oberlin), Old Hindi versions (Pauwels) and the Jain versions (De Clercq), we invite presentations on vernacular Maha?bha?ratas, from classic texts in vernacular languages, right up to popular media, its multiple retellings spanning from traditional elite performances and genres such as dance, drama and poetry, to contemporary popular poster art, folk and puppet theatre, novels, comics, cartoons, cinema and television. This includes vernacular Maha?bha?ratas from non-Hindu communities, such as Muslims, Jains, Buddhists and others. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From borayin.larios at gmail.com Mon Sep 16 07:58:21 2019 From: borayin.larios at gmail.com (Borayin M. Larios) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 19 09:58:21 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] ECSAS 2020 in Vienna Message-ID: Dear friends/scholars, Our panel on in shrines in South Asia has been accepted for ECSAS 2020! It is entitled: "Art, Ritual, and Text at Shrines in South Asia: A Cross-Disciplinary and Diachronic Investigation of the Forms and Functions of Shrines". https://ecsas2020.univie.ac.at/panels/rwnxc/ Long Abstract In recent studies of shrines, altars, and votive offerings?throughout numerous religious traditions?there has been a vexing issue related to terminology. In this panel, we broadly apply the term shrine to designate places where exchanges between divine and devotee take place; these spaces are often accreted with materials and substances that are traces of these dynamic interactions. The material culture found at these places can be vast from paintings, metal statuary, and photographs to dried fish, grains, and relics. The materiality of the shrine?what it is made of, as well as the material objects left at these sites?is only part of the story. Some shrines have rich histories and deep connections with communities of faith. In some cases, shrines are places people have visited for centuries to increase fertility, to ask for forgiveness, to gain favor, to earn protection, and much more. Textually, altars and shrines are often carefully described and discussed in both ritual texts and hagiographic accounts where shrines often serve as backdrops for religious rites and spaces to express gratitude, among many other functions. Organic, interactive, and layered, these often pastiche-like constructions are indices of the ever-evolving and deeply meaningful relationships between shrines and their communities. This panel invites papers that investigate these relationships and strata of material found at these complex sites throughout South Asia within its numerous religious expressions. Of particular interest are papers that include, but are not limited to, analyses of aesthetics, art history, ethnographic survey, space production, material culture, & ritual. If you are interested in contributing to our panel or you know someone who would please let us know. You can submit your proposal directly via the ECSAS website. The submission instructions are here: https://ecsas2020.univie.ac.at/paper-submission-guidelines/ . You can, of course, also contact us directly via email. The deadline to submit your proposal is November 17. Best wishes and hopefully see many of you in Vienna next summer! Melissa Kerin, Verena Widorn and Borayin Larios ___________________ Dr. lic. phil. 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Andrew *Vernacular Grammars*This panel focuses on the phenomenon of ?vernacular grammars,? i.e., grammars written for languages other than Sanskrit, in precolonial South Asia. We will try to define this phenomenon and trace out important patterns, connections, and developments across languages and regions. *Convenors*: ? Andrew Ollett, University of Chicago (Chicago, Illinois, United States of America) ? Victor D'Avella, University of Hamburg (Hamburg, Germany) ? Naresh Keerthi, Hebrew University of Jerusalem (Jerusalem, Israel) ? Sivan Arzony, Harvard University (Cambridge, Massachusetts, United States of America) *Long Abstract*Grammars were written for a number of regional languages in precolonial South Asia. The many different projects that sought to bring regional languages to order have been overshadowed, at least in modern scholarship, by the tradition of Sanskrit grammar. This panel will bring together scholars working in and across traditions of ?vernacular grammars? in an attempt to provide provisional answers to a number of questions about the phenomenon as a whole. How do we define ?vernacular grammars?? What were the conceptual and philological resources that the authors of vernacular grammars drew upon? How were basic fundamental differences between languages accounted for? What ?vertical? connections, to specific traditions of Sanskrit and Prakrit grammar, and ?horizontal? connections, to other vernacular grammars, can we identify? What are the conditions ? social, religious, ideological or otherwise ? that enabled these grammars to be produced? Is it simply a coincidence that so many of them were produced by Jains? What were the temporal and regional parameters of vernacular grammar production? Why, for example, is the phenomenon apparently limited to regions of Southern Asia where languages related to Sanskrit, such as Hindi and Marathi, were not spoken? What does the phenomenon of ?vernacular grammars? say about the phenomenon of vernacularization? This panel will mark the first attempt to study vernacular grammars in a comparative and historical perspective. We are especially interested in papers, above all co-authored papers combining multiple regions and languages, that identify and seek to explain major patterns, trends, and innovations. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jon.peterson at mail.utoronto.ca Mon Sep 16 22:34:07 2019 From: jon.peterson at mail.utoronto.ca (Jonathan Peterson) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 19 22:34:07 +0000 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_Workshop_@_the_University_of_Toronto:_Mok=E1=B9=A3op=C4=81ya,_the_Yogav=C4=81si=E1=B9=A3=E1=B9=ADha,_and_the_Afterlives_of_a_Pan-Indian_Text?= Message-ID: <5A578E3F-9261-448D-BA5E-DFA590B9C098@mail.utoronto.ca> Those in the greater Toronto area this Friday and Saturday (Sept. 20th-21st) are cordially invited to attend an exciting workshop/conference at the University of Toronto titled: "The Mok?op?ya, the Yogav?si??ha, and the Afterlives of a Pan-Indian Text." See the schedule below for location and presenter information. Best wishes, Jonathan Peterson Department for the Study of Religion Centre for South Asian Studies University of Toronto The Mok?op?ya, the Yogav?si??ha and the Afterlives of a Pan-Indian Text Workshop at the University of Toronto, Department for the Study of Religion Venue: Jackman Humanities Building, Room 317 Co-organized by Srilata Raman (University of Toronto) and Ju?rgen Hanneder (University of Marburg) 20, September 2019 Session One: The Mok?op?ya and the Yogav?si??ha 9.30-10: Ju?rgen Hanneder: A Brief Introduction to the Mok?op?ya Project 10-11: Walter Slaje: Vasi??ha the Void. Inquiries into the Authorship of the Mok?op?ya 11-11.15: Coffee 11.15-12.15: Stanislav Jager: The Commentator Bh?karaka??ha 12.15-1.15: Ju?rgen Hanneder: Versions, Redactions, or Recensions of the Mok?op?ya 1.15-2.15: Lunch 2.15-3: Tamara Cohen: Different Editions and Translations of the Arjunop?khy?na Session Two: The Persian Yogav?si??ha 3-3.45: Ayelet Kotler: Shifts in Style and Norms of Translation. On Translating and Re-Translating the Yogav?si??ha into Persian 3.45-4: Coffee 4-4.45: Shankar Nair: The Yogav?si??ha in Persian: Three Translations in Philosophical Context 4.45-5.30: Luther Obrock: The Citation of Mok?op?ya/Yogav?si??ha as Theology: A Case from Fayzi?s Sharique al-Ma ?rifat and an Anonymous ??rad? Manuscript from the University of Toronto 21, September 2019 Session Three: The ???av?ci??am 9.30-10.15: Srilata Raman: A Publishing History of the ???av?ci??am 10.15-11: Eric Steinschneider: The ???av?ci??am and the Making of Tamil Advaita Ved?nta: Notes on the Reception of the Text 11-11.15: Coffee 11.15-1: Discussion of the Parameters of the Project and the Way Forward -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Panichas (New York: McKay, 1977) I have McCarthy, but the excerpts in front of me are from Panichas: Mary McCarthy, tr., The Iliad, or the Poem of Force, Chicago Review, 18:2 (1965) Best, Richard -- Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica Littledene Bay Road Oxford NZ T: +6433121699 M: +64210640216 r.mahoney at indica-et-buddhica.org https://indica-et-buddhica.org/ From hellwig7 at gmx.de Tue Sep 17 10:28:29 2019 From: hellwig7 at gmx.de (Oliver Hellwig) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 19 12:28:29 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Accusative of direction Message-ID: <21a24c1c-c712-7d57-ac9e-fe093781d28b@gmx.de> Dear all, this question probably has an obvious answer, but I don't find it: Let's say we have a sentence like rAmo vanaM pravizati, where the acc. vanam expresses the goal of a motion verb. Are there any papers or any clues from the grammatical tradition that could tell if the accusative vanam was "felt" like a real object in actual language use (as the sun in "I see the sun"), or rather considered as some kind of adverbial non-core argument to the verb? Any hint is highly appreciated. Best, Oliver --- Oliver Hellwig, IVS Z?rich From mmdesh at umich.edu Tue Sep 17 13:29:02 2019 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 19 06:29:02 -0700 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Accusative of direction In-Reply-To: <21a24c1c-c712-7d57-ac9e-fe093781d28b@gmx.de> Message-ID: Dear Oliver, You may find discussions by grammarians on semantic sub-types of Karman useful in this respect. Works from Bhartr?hari's V?kyapad?ya to Kau??abha??a's Vaiy?kara?a-Bh??a?a and N?ge?a's Laghuma?j??? discuss these sub-types. The discussions on verb semantics classifying verbs into kartr?stha-kriyaka versus karmastha-kriyaka and kartr?stha-bh?vaka versus karmastha-bh?vaka may also provide some clues. I have discussed the effects of some semantic sub-types of Karman [affected versus non-affected] in the syntax of passives of dvikarmaka verbs. You can see this in a sentence like aj?? gr?ma? nayati > aj? gr?ma? n?yate; but not aj?? gr?ma? n?yate. On the other hand, gr?ma? gacchati can be passivized as gr?ma? gamyate. So gr?ma in relation to nayati and gacchati seems to have a somewhat different perception. With respect to nayati, it may be more or less adverbial as you say. On the other hand, with respect to gacchati, it has some closer semantic connection. This looks like a great topic for deeper introspection. Perhaps Hans Hock and George Cardona could add to this discussion. With best wishes, Madhav Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 3:29 AM Oliver Hellwig via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear all, > > this question probably has an obvious answer, but I don't find it: > Let's say we have a sentence like rAmo vanaM pravizati, where the acc. > vanam expresses the goal of a motion verb. > > Are there any papers or any clues from the grammatical tradition that > could tell if the accusative vanam was "felt" like a real object in > actual language use (as the sun in "I see the sun"), or rather > considered as some kind of adverbial non-core argument to the verb? > > Any hint is highly appreciated. > > Best, Oliver > > --- > Oliver Hellwig, IVS Z?rich > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From hellwig7 at gmx.de Tue Sep 17 14:38:28 2019 From: hellwig7 at gmx.de (Oliver Hellwig) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 19 16:38:28 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Accusative of direction In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <370fc877-a205-79e3-369b-4cc019ed618d@gmx.de> Dear Madhav, thanks a lot to you (as well as to the other list members who answered off list). This is exactly what I was looking for! Best wishes, Oliver On 17/09/2019 15:29, Madhav Deshpande wrote: > Dear Oliver, > > ? ? ?You may find discussions by grammarians on semantic sub-types of > Karman useful in this respect.? Works from Bhartr?hari's V?kyapad?ya to > Kau??abha??a's Vaiy?kara?a-Bh??a?a and N?ge?a's Laghuma?j??? discuss > these sub-types.? The discussions on verb semantics classifying verbs > into kartr?stha-kriyaka versus karmastha-kriyaka and kartr?stha-bh?vaka > versus karmastha-bh?vaka may also provide some clues.? I have discussed > the effects of some semantic sub-types of Karman [affected versus > non-affected] in the syntax of passives of dvikarmaka verbs.? You can > see this in a sentence like aj?? gr?ma? nayati > aj? gr?ma? n?yate; but > not aj?? gr?ma? n?yate.? On the other hand, gr?ma? gacchati can be > passivized as gr?ma? gamyate.? So gr?ma in relation to nayati and > gacchati seems to have a somewhat different perception.? With respect to > nayati, it may be more or less adverbial as you say.? On the other hand, > with respect to gacchati, it has some closer semantic connection.? This > looks like a great topic for deeper introspection.? Perhaps Hans Hock > and George Cardona could add to this discussion.? With best wishes, > > Madhav > > Madhav M. Deshpande > Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics > University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies > > [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] > > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 3:29 AM Oliver Hellwig via INDOLOGY > > wrote: > > Dear all, > > this question probably has an obvious answer, but I don't find it: > Let's say we have a sentence like rAmo vanaM pravizati, where the acc. > vanam expresses the goal of a motion verb. > > Are there any papers or any clues from the grammatical tradition that > could tell if the accusative vanam was "felt" like a real object in > actual language use (as the sun in "I see the sun"), or rather > considered as some kind of adverbial non-core argument to the verb? > > Any hint is highly appreciated. > > Best, Oliver > > --- > Oliver Hellwig, IVS Z?rich > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info > (messages to the list's > managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list > options or unsubscribe) > From hhhock at illinois.edu Tue Sep 17 14:58:55 2019 From: hhhock at illinois.edu (Hock, Hans Henrich) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 19 14:58:55 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Accusative of direction In-Reply-To: <370fc877-a205-79e3-369b-4cc019ed618d@gmx.de> Message-ID: Dear Oliver, At Madhav?s suggestion I am adding two old papers of mine in which I address the issue (within broader contexts); see attached. (For one of the papers I include the original, since the published version is full of typos and, based on an old paper copy, not in the best of visual shapes). With all best wishes, Hans Henrich > On 17 Sep2019, at 09:38, Oliver Hellwig via INDOLOGY wrote: > > Dear Madhav, > > thanks a lot to you (as well as to the other list members who answered > off list). This is exactly what I was looking for! > > Best wishes, Oliver > > On 17/09/2019 15:29, Madhav Deshpande wrote: >> Dear Oliver, >> >> You may find discussions by grammarians on semantic sub-types of >> Karman useful in this respect. Works from Bhartr?hari's V?kyapad?ya to >> Kau??abha??a's Vaiy?kara?a-Bh??a?a and N?ge?a's Laghuma?j??? discuss >> these sub-types. The discussions on verb semantics classifying verbs >> into kartr?stha-kriyaka versus karmastha-kriyaka and kartr?stha-bh?vaka >> versus karmastha-bh?vaka may also provide some clues. I have discussed >> the effects of some semantic sub-types of Karman [affected versus >> non-affected] in the syntax of passives of dvikarmaka verbs. You can >> see this in a sentence like aj?? gr?ma? nayati > aj? gr?ma? n?yate; but >> not aj?? gr?ma? n?yate. On the other hand, gr?ma? gacchati can be >> passivized as gr?ma? gamyate. So gr?ma in relation to nayati and >> gacchati seems to have a somewhat different perception. With respect to >> nayati, it may be more or less adverbial as you say. On the other hand, >> with respect to gacchati, it has some closer semantic connection. This >> looks like a great topic for deeper introspection. Perhaps Hans Hock >> and George Cardona could add to this discussion. With best wishes, >> >> Madhav >> >> Madhav M. Deshpande >> Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics >> University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA >> Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies >> >> [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 3:29 AM Oliver Hellwig via INDOLOGY >> > wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> >> this question probably has an obvious answer, but I don't find it: >> Let's say we have a sentence like rAmo vanaM pravizati, where the acc. >> vanam expresses the goal of a motion verb. >> >> Are there any papers or any clues from the grammatical tradition that >> could tell if the accusative vanam was "felt" like a real object in >> actual language use (as the sun in "I see the sun"), or rather >> considered as some kind of adverbial non-core argument to the verb? >> >> Any hint is highly appreciated. >> >> Best, Oliver >> >> --- >> Oliver Hellwig, IVS Z?rich >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info >> (messages to the list's >> managing committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list >> options or unsubscribe) >> > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 6:29 AM Madhav Deshpande wrote: > Dear Oliver, > > You may find discussions by grammarians on semantic sub-types of > Karman useful in this respect. Works from Bhartr?hari's V?kyapad?ya to > Kau??abha??a's Vaiy?kara?a-Bh??a?a and N?ge?a's Laghuma?j??? discuss these > sub-types. The discussions on verb semantics classifying verbs into > kartr?stha-kriyaka versus karmastha-kriyaka and kartr?stha-bh?vaka versus > karmastha-bh?vaka may also provide some clues. I have discussed the > effects of some semantic sub-types of Karman [affected versus non-affected] > in the syntax of passives of dvikarmaka verbs. You can see this in a > sentence like aj?? gr?ma? nayati > aj? gr?ma? n?yate; but not aj?? gr?ma? > n?yate. On the other hand, gr?ma? gacchati can be passivized as gr?ma? > gamyate. So gr?ma in relation to nayati and gacchati seems to have a > somewhat different perception. With respect to nayati, it may be more or > less adverbial as you say. On the other hand, with respect to gacchati, it > has some closer semantic connection. This looks like a great topic for > deeper introspection. Perhaps Hans Hock and George Cardona could add to > this discussion. With best wishes, > > Madhav > > Madhav M. Deshpande > Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics > University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies > > [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] > > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 3:29 AM Oliver Hellwig via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> this question probably has an obvious answer, but I don't find it: >> Let's say we have a sentence like rAmo vanaM pravizati, where the acc. >> vanam expresses the goal of a motion verb. >> >> Are there any papers or any clues from the grammatical tradition that >> could tell if the accusative vanam was "felt" like a real object in >> actual language use (as the sun in "I see the sun"), or rather >> considered as some kind of adverbial non-core argument to the verb? >> >> Any hint is highly appreciated. >> >> Best, Oliver >> >> --- >> Oliver Hellwig, IVS Z?rich >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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All the Best, Victor On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 12:29 PM Oliver Hellwig via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear all, > > this question probably has an obvious answer, but I don't find it: > Let's say we have a sentence like rAmo vanaM pravizati, where the acc. > vanam expresses the goal of a motion verb. > > Are there any papers or any clues from the grammatical tradition that > could tell if the accusative vanam was "felt" like a real object in > actual language use (as the sun in "I see the sun"), or rather > considered as some kind of adverbial non-core argument to the verb? > > Any hint is highly appreciated. > > Best, Oliver > > --- > Oliver Hellwig, IVS Z?rich > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hellwig7 at gmx.de Tue Sep 17 17:37:36 2019 From: hellwig7 at gmx.de (Oliver Hellwig) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 19 19:37:36 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Accusative of direction In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Hans, thanks a lot, esp. for the ditransitive paper. The summary in paragraph 14 is a great starting point, although it seems necessary to query the corpus for verbs summed up under categories B-I. Best wishes, Oliver On 17/09/2019 16:58, Hock, Hans Henrich wrote: > Dear Oliver, > > At Madhav?s suggestion I am adding two old papers of mine in which I address the issue (within broader contexts); see attached. (For one of the papers I include the original, since the published version is full of typos and, based on an old paper copy, not in the best of visual shapes). > > With all best wishes, > > Hans Henrich > > > > >> On 17 Sep2019, at 09:38, Oliver Hellwig via INDOLOGY wrote: >> >> Dear Madhav, >> >> thanks a lot to you (as well as to the other list members who answered >> off list). This is exactly what I was looking for! >> >> Best wishes, Oliver >> >> On 17/09/2019 15:29, Madhav Deshpande wrote: >>> Dear Oliver, >>> >>> You may find discussions by grammarians on semantic sub-types of >>> Karman useful in this respect. Works from Bhartr?hari's V?kyapad?ya to >>> Kau??abha??a's Vaiy?kara?a-Bh??a?a and N?ge?a's Laghuma?j??? discuss >>> these sub-types. The discussions on verb semantics classifying verbs >>> into kartr?stha-kriyaka versus karmastha-kriyaka and kartr?stha-bh?vaka >>> versus karmastha-bh?vaka may also provide some clues. I have discussed >>> the effects of some semantic sub-types of Karman [affected versus >>> non-affected] in the syntax of passives of dvikarmaka verbs. You can >>> see this in a sentence like aj?? gr?ma? nayati > aj? gr?ma? n?yate; but >>> not aj?? gr?ma? n?yate. On the other hand, gr?ma? gacchati can be >>> passivized as gr?ma? gamyate. So gr?ma in relation to nayati and >>> gacchati seems to have a somewhat different perception. With respect to >>> nayati, it may be more or less adverbial as you say. On the other hand, >>> with respect to gacchati, it has some closer semantic connection. This >>> looks like a great topic for deeper introspection. Perhaps Hans Hock >>> and George Cardona could add to this discussion. With best wishes, >>> >>> Madhav >>> >>> Madhav M. Deshpande >>> Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics >>> University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA >>> Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies >>> >>> [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 3:29 AM Oliver Hellwig via INDOLOGY >>> > wrote: >>> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> this question probably has an obvious answer, but I don't find it: >>> Let's say we have a sentence like rAmo vanaM pravizati, where the acc. >>> vanam expresses the goal of a motion verb. >>> >>> Are there any papers or any clues from the grammatical tradition that >>> could tell if the accusative vanam was "felt" like a real object in >>> actual language use (as the sun in "I see the sun"), or rather >>> considered as some kind of adverbial non-core argument to the verb? >>> >>> Any hint is highly appreciated. >>> >>> Best, Oliver >>> >>> --- >>> Oliver Hellwig, IVS Z?rich >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> indology-owner at list.indology.info >>> (messages to the list's >>> managing committee) >>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list >>> options or unsubscribe) >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be Wed Sep 18 06:34:29 2019 From: christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be (Christophe Vielle) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 19 06:34:29 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Fwd: 2019-20 Fellowships in Buddhist Studies In-Reply-To: <308a35b2c3e34e9b41bea422d.9e5e43f316.20190917185305.c7ad24ad48.06b881de@mail121.suw13.rsgsv.net> Message-ID: D?but du message r?exp?di? : De: Andrzej Tymowski > Objet: 2019-20 Fellowships in Buddhist Studies Date: 17 septembre 2019 ? 20:53:14 UTC+2 ?: > R?pondre ?: Andrzej Tymowski > View this email in your browser [https://gallery.mailchimp.com/308a35b2c3e34e9b41bea422d/images/621dba10-6d61-4463-aa0e-9b8fdf077363.jpg] The Robert H. 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The needed document would be available (unfortunately not in Europe) at https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/000288225 https://books.google.com/books?id=0VtdvgEACAAJ (= exemplar from University of California) https://books.google.com/books?id=M6K7NAEACAAJ As for Archiv problem, since the wording of the link correspond to the presently attached files (the given Google-id being also the one of the Library of Harvard exemplar of Resena Historica de las Municipalidades en Guatemala, https://books.google.com/books?id=f0EXAAAAYAAJ), it would be probably better to preserve it and replace the title and description by the correct ones, and create a new entry for Artola's book. Thank you for your help, Best wishes, ??????????????????? Christophe Vielle Louvain-la-Neuve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.gluckman at alumni.anu.edu.au Wed Sep 18 08:40:39 2019 From: m.gluckman at alumni.anu.edu.au (Martin Gluckman) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 19 08:40:39 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Highlights from the Sanskrit corpora In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Here is what I have so far thank you: 1.Sankara?s Brahma-sutra-bhasya for the superb prose style and clarity. 2. Bha??ik?vya: "I love grammar, I love pedagogy, and I love poetry, and so an epic didactic poem about grammar is just the bee's knees for me." Kindest wishes, Martin On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 5:36 PM Martin Gluckman > wrote: Dear Colleagues, I have a lecture to prepare and am conducting a short survey: I would like to know from the Sanskrit scholarly community what those feel are the utmost most excellent works from the entire corpora and a short line about why. Think of it as "if there were to be a Pullitzer or Booker Prize for the notable Sanskrit works", who and what would be the nominees and why. It could be a text that was of exceptional technical value for example P??ini's A???dhy?y? or those that have introduced a novel method in a field of science for example the Su?rutasa?hit?. Then of course a notable poetic marvel such as ?akuntal?. If there exist some already compiled lists of the same I would most appreciate it. With warmest wishes, Martin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kauzeya at gmail.com Wed Sep 18 09:09:16 2019 From: kauzeya at gmail.com (Jonathan Silk) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 19 11:09:16 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] East and West India mixed references on Archiv - a pdf request In-Reply-To: <0DD282DE-48CC-49AC-A49F-98B6570B4232@uclouvain.be> Message-ID: just a technical (slightly technical...) note: if you get a VPN, you can set your location to the US and then you can access hathitrust or google materials which are limited to North America. As far as I know, there is absolutely nothing even remotely illegal in this. Jonathan On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 9:41 AM Christophe Vielle via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear List, > > I would like to go through George Thomas ARTOLA (?1920-2010?)'s > out-of-print > *The banner of K?madeva and other topics of Sanskrit literature and Indian > culture * > (= vol. 3 of the Monographs of the Department of Sanskrit and Indian > Studies, University of Toronto)*,* Bombay: Popular Prakashan, 1977 (a ? > 100 pp. collection of articles). > > The book should be on Archiv here: > https://archive.org/details/reseahistricade00batrgoog/ > but the scanned file does not correspond to the description (same for the > Open Library reference). > > The needed document would be available (unfortunately not in Europe) at > https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/000288225 > https://books.google.com/books?id=0VtdvgEACAAJ (= exemplar from > University of California) > https://books.google.com/books?id=M6K7NAEACAAJ > > As for Archiv problem, since the wording of the link correspond to the > presently attached files (the given Google-id being also the one of the > Library of Harvard exemplar of *Resena Historica de las Municipalidades > en Guatemala*, https://books.google.com/books?id=f0EXAAAAYAAJ), it would > be probably better to preserve it and replace the title and description by > the correct ones, and create a new entry for Artola's book. > > Thank you for your help, > > Best wishes, > ??????????????????? > Christophe Vielle > Louvain-la-Neuve > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -- J. Silk Leiden University Leiden University Institute for Area Studies, LIAS Matthias de Vrieshof 3, Room 0.05b 2311 BZ Leiden The Netherlands copies of my publications may be found at https://leidenuniv.academia.edu/JASilk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dermot at grevatt.force9.co.uk Wed Sep 18 10:22:54 2019 From: dermot at grevatt.force9.co.uk (dermot at grevatt.force9.co.uk) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 19 10:22:54 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Accusative of direction In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5D81F76E.24942.745C92@dermot.grevatt.force9.co.uk> Dear Madhav, Thank you for posting this article. I found it very interesting, having thought about this problem myself without having your erudition to think about it so clearly. Apart from the purely linguistic arguments, your suggestion that Panini thinks in terms of desire because that's the way ritual theory works is very interesting. Staal would no doubt have agreed -- did he comment on it? I also derive great pleasure from your Krishna verses, and share selected ones with mytwo ISKCON students. With best wishes, Dermot On 17 Sep 2019 at 8:32, Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY wrote: Hello Oliver, Here is my article on the ditransitive passive in Paini. Best, Madhav Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 6:29 AM Madhav Deshpande wrote: Dear Oliver, You may find discussions by grammarians on semantic sub-types of Karman useful in this respect. Works from Bhartrhari's Vakyapadiya to Kauabhaa's Vaiyakaraa-Bhuaa and Nage?sa's Laghuma?jua discuss these sub-types. The discussions on verb semantics classifying verbs into kartrstha-kriyaka versus karmastha-kriyaka and kartrstha-bhavaka versus karmastha-bhavaka may also provide some clues. I have discussed the effects of some semantic sub-types of Karman [affected versus non-affected] in the syntax of passives of dvikarmaka verbs. You can see this in a sentence like aja grama nayati > aja grama niyate; but not aja grama niyate. On the other hand, grama gacchati can be passivized as grama gamyate. So grama in relation to nayati and gacchati seems to have a somewhat different perception. With respect to nayati, it may be more or less adverbial as you say. On the other hand, with respect to gacchati, it has some closer semantic connection. This looks like a great topic for deeper introspection. Perhaps Hans Hock and George Cardona could add to this discussion. With best wishes, Madhav Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 3:29 AM Oliver Hellwig via INDOLOGY wrote: Dear all, this question probably has an obvious answer, but I don't find it: Let's say we have a sentence like rAmo vanaM pravizati, where the acc. vanam expresses the goal of a motion verb. Are there any papers or any clues from the grammatical tradition that could tell if the accusative vanam was "felt" like a real object in actual language use (as the sun in "I see the sun"), or rather considered as some kind of adverbial non-core argument to the verb? Any hint is highly appreciated. Best, Oliver --- Oliver Hellwig, IVS Z?rich _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -- Dermot Killingley 9, Rectory Drive, Gosforth, Newcastle upon Tyne NE3 1XT Phone (0191) 285 8053 From yamabe at waseda.jp Wed Sep 18 12:13:04 2019 From: yamabe at waseda.jp (YAMABE Nobuyoshi) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 19 12:13:04 +0000 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_LECTURE>_Roy_Tzohar_at_Waseda:_"Etymology_as_an_Interpretative_Technique:_The_Case_of_the_Yog=C4=81c=C4=81ra_Philosopher_Sthiramati,"_Oct._11,_2019?= Message-ID: <9D549ED6-6FDA-4C57-9DE8-841786723879@waseda.jp> Dear Colleagues (with apologies for cross-posting), I am pleased to announce a public lecture by Professor Roy Tzohar at Waseda University on Friday, October 11, 2019. Title: Etymology as an Interpretative Technique: The Case of the Yog?c?ra Philosopher Sthiramati. Speaker: Professor Roy Tzohar, Tel Aviv University. Time: 5pm--6:30pm. Venue: Waseda University, Toyama Campus, Building 36, Room 581. Abstract: The paper examines the role of etymological analysis (nirvacana, nirukti) in Indian Buddhist textual culture, focusing, as a case study, on the works of the 6th-century Yog?c?ra philosopher Sthiramati. By grounding Sthiramati's etymological practices in its broader intellectual context, both Buddhist and non-Buddhist, the paper demonstrates the way in which etymological analysis serves primarily as an interpretative technique. In the hands of the skilled commentator, it is argued, etymological analysis becomes itself an independent argument; and by bringing together a rich intertextual context to form a new commentarial synthesis it serves as am important tradition-making activity both textually and linguistically. Understood in this way, etymology is not focused on revealing or excavating semantic meaning that is embedded in language, but rather a way in which meaning is negotiated and created in praxis within the boundaries of a certain tradition. This feature, I hope to show, helps to explain the rather puzzling practice in Buddhist textual circles, of a crossover of an etymology from one language into another (for instance in the translation of texts from Indic languages into Chinese). About the Speaker: Professor Roy Tzohar specializes in the history of philosophy with a focus on Buddhist and Brahmanical philosophical traditions in India. He holds a Ph.D. from the Religion Department at Columbia University (2011) and is currently an associate professor in the East and South Asian Studies Department at Tel Aviv University. His recent monograph, A Buddhist Yog?c?ra Theory of Metaphor (Oxford University Press, 2018), winner of the Toshihide Numata Award 2018, deals with Indian philosophy of language and the Yog?c?ra philosophy of language and experience in particular. Current research interests include Buddhist philosophy of Language and nonconcpetuality, Indian philosophy of emotion, and the works of the Buddhist poet and philosopher A?vagho?a. The lecture will be given in English and translated into Japanese. It is free of charge and open to the public. Anybody interested is welcome. Nobuyoshi Yamabe Waseda University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jan.kucera at matfyz.cz Wed Sep 18 12:32:29 2019 From: jan.kucera at matfyz.cz (jan.kucera at matfyz.cz) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 19 13:32:29 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? In-Reply-To: <48D68B9E-F09C-41B5-B2E1-04FA4EF11825@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello, I have underestimated the submission process length, but in case you cannot use keyboard or install software, I have made a simple online add-in for Word/PowerPoint that you can use to enter the diacritics (unless your organization disabled using Office add-ins). Windows and Mac: Go to Insert tab > Get Add-Ins and search for Indic Online in browser: Go to Insert tab > Add-ins > Store and search for Indic iPad: In landscape mode, go to Insert tab > Add-ins > All > search for Indic Add the add-in and you should get a taskpane with character buttons, see http://apps.ujca.cz/IndicInputWebPane/ for a screenshot. It's not a great typing experience but better than nothing. Hope this helps, Jan -----Original Message----- From: INDOLOGY On Behalf Of James Hartzell via INDOLOGY Sent: ?ter? 13. srpna 2019 7:41 To: indology at list.indology.info Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? Hello Has anyone found a way to type Sanskrit diacritics in MS-Word on the Ipad? So far my attempts have been fruitless. Cheers James _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From yogacara at gmail.com Wed Sep 18 13:24:56 2019 From: yogacara at gmail.com (Dan Lusthaus) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 19 09:24:56 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] East and West India mixed references on Archiv - a pdf request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just to add a clarification. Unfortunately a VPN won?t help. None of those links leads to a downloadable version of the book, even in N. America. Hathi trust is infamous for making only the slimmest snippets available, claiming copyright restrictions (even institutional access is quite limited), and google only makes books that are no longer under copyright available for download, though it sometimes will post ?preview? versions that delete blocks of pages. Dan > On Sep 18, 2019, at 5:09 AM, Jonathan Silk via INDOLOGY wrote: > > just a technical (slightly technical...) note: if you get a VPN, you can set your location to the US and then you can access hathitrust or google materials which are limited to North America. As far as I know, there is absolutely nothing even remotely illegal in this. > Jonathan > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 9:41 AM Christophe Vielle via INDOLOGY > wrote: > Dear List, > > I would like to go through George Thomas ARTOLA (?1920-2010?)'s out-of-print > The banner of K?madeva and other topics of Sanskrit literature and Indian culture > (= vol. 3 of the Monographs of the Department of Sanskrit and Indian Studies, University of Toronto), Bombay: Popular Prakashan, 1977 (a ? 100 pp. collection of articles). > > The book should be on Archiv here: > https://archive.org/details/reseahistricade00batrgoog/ > but the scanned file does not correspond to the description (same for the Open Library reference). > > The needed document would be available (unfortunately not in Europe) at > https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/000288225 > https://books.google.com/books?id=0VtdvgEACAAJ (= exemplar from University of California) > https://books.google.com/books?id=M6K7NAEACAAJ > > As for Archiv problem, since the wording of the link correspond to the presently attached files (the given Google-id being also the one of the Library of Harvard exemplar of Resena Historica de las Municipalidades en Guatemala, https://books.google.com/books?id=f0EXAAAAYAAJ ), it would be probably better to preserve it and replace the title and description by the correct ones, and create a new entry for Artola's book. > > Thank you for your help, > > Best wishes, > ??????????????????? > Christophe Vielle > Louvain-la-Neuve > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > -- > J. Silk > Leiden University > Leiden University Institute for Area Studies, LIAS > Matthias de Vrieshof 3, Room 0.05b > 2311 BZ Leiden > The Netherlands > > copies of my publications may be found at > https://leidenuniv.academia.edu/JASilk > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Wed Sep 18 13:27:29 2019 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 19 06:27:29 -0700 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Continuing my Krishna verses Message-ID: Continuing my Krishna verses ????? ?????? ?????? ??????????? ??????????????? ? ? ???? ??? ?? ??????? ?????????? ?? ??????? ??????? Even while asleep with closed eyes, I always see you. O Lord, I don't know if I am awake or if this is a dream. Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Wed Sep 18 13:40:09 2019 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 19 06:40:09 -0700 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Continuing my Krishna verses Message-ID: Continuing my Krishna verses ??????? ?????? ?????? ??????????? ??????????????? ? ? ???? ??? ?? ??????? ?????????? ?? ??????? ??????? Even while asleep with closed eyes, I always see you. O Lord, I don't know if I am awake or if this is a dream. Madhav M. 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Patrick McCartney, PhD JSPS Fellow - Graduate School of Global Environmental Studies, Kyoto University, Japan Research Associate - Nanzan University Anthropological Institute, Nagoya, Japan Research Affiliate - Organization for Identity and Cultural Development (OICD), Kyoto Visiting Fellow - South and South-east Asian Studies Department, Australian National University Member - South Asia Research Institute (SARI), Australian National University Skype / Zoom - psdmccartney Phone + Whatsapp + Line: +81-80-9811-3235 Twitter - @psdmccartney @yogascapesinjap Yogascapes in Japan Academia Linkedin Modern Yoga Research *bodhap?rvam calema* ;-) - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl Thu Sep 19 06:44:29 2019 From: H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl (Tieken, H.J.H.) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 19 06:44:29 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: Message-ID: For the doh?, see M. Shahidullah, Les chants mystiques de K??ha et de Saraha, pp. 60-66. Though occasionally rhyme may be found in other, earlier, texts (I remember having read something somewhere about these "predecessors, written by D. Goodall) it has become a systematic feature of Apabhra??a texts (folk songs). L. Alsdorf, Apabhra??a-Studien. AKM XXII 2, pp. 39-56. Herman Herman Tieken Stationsweg 58 2515 BP Den Haag The Netherlands 00 31 (0)70 2208127 website: hermantieken.com ________________________________ Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info] Verzonden: donderdag 19 september 2019 0:41 Aan: indology at list.indology.info Onderwerp: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms Dear friends, I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza and NIA verse. I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features including meter, rhyme etc. with thanks in advance, Matthew Get Outlook for iOS -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com Thu Sep 19 08:00:10 2019 From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 19 13:30:10 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sharing a snapshot of a page from a book The Sants : Studies in a Devotional Tradition of India by W H McLeod In the footnotes it has a few references that may be useful The page is here . On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:15 PM Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > For the doh?, see M. Shahidullah, Les chants mystiques de K??ha et de > Saraha, pp. 60-66. > Though occasionally rhyme may be found in other, earlier, texts (I > remember having read something somewhere about these "predecessors, written > by D. Goodall) it has become a systematic feature of Apabhra??a texts (folk > songs). > L. Alsdorf, Apabhra??a-Studien. AKM XXII 2, pp. 39-56. > > Herman > > Herman Tieken > Stationsweg 58 > 2515 BP Den Haag > The Netherlands > 00 31 (0)70 2208127 > website: hermantieken.com > ------------------------------ > *Van:* INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Matthew > Kapstein via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info] > *Verzonden:* donderdag 19 september 2019 0:41 > *Aan:* indology at list.indology.info > *Onderwerp:* [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms > > Dear friends, > > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner in > which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, and > analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza and NIA verse. I am > particularly looking for works dealing with formal features including > meter, rhyme etc. > > with thanks in advance, > Matthew > > Get Outlook for iOS > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. Director, Inter-Gurukula-University Centre , Indic Academy BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Shahidullah, Les chants mystiques de K??ha et de >> Saraha, pp. 60-66. >> Though occasionally rhyme may be found in other, earlier, texts (I >> remember having read something somewhere about these "predecessors, written >> by D. Goodall) it has become a systematic feature of Apabhra??a texts (folk >> songs). >> L. Alsdorf, Apabhra??a-Studien. AKM XXII 2, pp. 39-56. >> >> Herman >> >> Herman Tieken >> Stationsweg 58 >> 2515 BP Den Haag >> The Netherlands >> 00 31 (0)70 2208127 >> website: hermantieken.com >> ------------------------------ >> *Van:* INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Matthew >> Kapstein via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info] >> *Verzonden:* donderdag 19 september 2019 0:41 >> *Aan:* indology at list.indology.info >> *Onderwerp:* [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms >> >> Dear friends, >> >> I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner in >> which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, and >> analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza and NIA verse. I am >> particularly looking for works dealing with formal features including >> meter, rhyme etc. >> >> with thanks in advance, >> Matthew >> >> Get Outlook for iOS >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > Director, Inter-Gurukula-University Centre , Indic Academy > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala > BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, > (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) > > > > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. Director, Inter-Gurukula-University Centre , Indic Academy BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jean-luc.chevillard at univ-paris-diderot.fr Thu Sep 19 08:08:52 2019 From: jean-luc.chevillard at univ-paris-diderot.fr (Jean-Luc Chevillard) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 19 10:08:52 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2f423ead-ad30-c2f9-9895-4eed676067a4@univ-paris-diderot.fr> Cher Matthew, For the record, you might be interested to know that, among the 30 cantos of the ????????????? 21 are called k?tai (????) 4 are called vari (???) 2 are called kuravai (?????) 2 are called m?lai (????) 1 is called p??al (?????) On page 864 of the Madras Tamil Lexicon, you can read the following ????? (p. 864) k?tai ????? k?tai , n. < g?th?. 1. Poem; ??????. (???.) 2. Division of a poem containing a narrative; ???????????? ?????. (?????. ???. 63, ???.) In a similar manner, the 30 cantos of the Ma?im?kalai (????????) are all called k?tai (????) I hope this is useful Meilleurs voeux -- Jean-Luc https://twitter.com/JLC1956 https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard On 19/09/2019 00:41, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear friends, > > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner > in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, and > analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza ?and NIA verse. I am > particularly looking for works dealing with formal features including > meter, rhyme etc. > > with thanks in advance, > Matthew > > Get Outlook for iOS > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > From jean-luc.chevillard at univ-paris-diderot.fr Thu Sep 19 08:18:04 2019 From: jean-luc.chevillard at univ-paris-diderot.fr (Jean-Luc Chevillard) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 19 10:18:04 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: <2f423ead-ad30-c2f9-9895-4eed676067a4@univ-paris-diderot.fr> Message-ID: Oops ... I now see that I should have written > among the 30 >> cantos of the CILAPPATIK?RAM (?????????????) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silappatikaram -- jl On 19/09/2019 10:08, Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY wrote: > Cher Matthew, > > For the record, you might be interested to know that, among the 30 > cantos of the ????????????? > > 21 are called k?tai (????) > 4 are called vari (???) > 2 are called kuravai (?????) > 2 are called m?lai (????) > 1 is called p??al (?????) > > On page 864 of the Madras Tamil Lexicon, you can read the following > > ????? (p. 864) k?tai ????? k?tai , n. < g?th?. 1. Poem; ??????. (???.) 2. > Division of a poem containing a narrative; ???????????? ?????. (?????. ???. > 63, ???.) > > In a similar manner, > the 30 cantos of the Ma?im?kalai (????????) are all called k?tai (????) > > I hope this is useful > > Meilleurs voeux > > -- Jean-Luc > > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > > > > On 19/09/2019 00:41, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: >> Dear friends, >> >> I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner >> in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, >> and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza ?and NIA verse. >> I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features >> including meter, rhyme etc. >> >> with thanks in advance, >> Matthew >> >> Get Outlook for iOS >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >> or unsubscribe) >> > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) From wiese at wifa.uni-leipzig.de Thu Sep 19 08:28:25 2019 From: wiese at wifa.uni-leipzig.de (Wiese) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 19 10:28:25 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Highlights from the Sanskrit corpora (Martin Gluckman) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <452db272-5332-c344-4a65-5eae1401232f@wifa.uni-leipzig.de> Dear list members, how about these nominees? a) For the clever insights into human agency: ArthazAstra, PaJcatantra b) For inventing the zero: ?? c) For humanity's first (?) indication of a probability: Birth story of Brahma (= Story 29 in Justin Meiland, Garland of the Buddha's Past Lives, Vol. 2, p. 278-279, 29.35) d) For the maNDala model, in particular the insight that an enemy's enemy is a friend, and the invention of chess that was probably meant to teach kings and princes the intricacies of the maNDala model: ArthazAstra, MAnasollAsa e) For the sucessful judicial institution of ordeals which worked much better in India than in Europe due to the required consent of the plaintiff: vyavahAra texts in the dharma literature, for example NArada SmRti 20.7 in Lariviere's edition. f) For the requirement that kings or their officials were to compensate the victims of theft if the thief could be apprehended (the latter being a government's duty): ArthazAstra, DharmazAstras Yours Harald Wiese, University of Leipzig From james.hartzell at gmail.com Thu Sep 19 08:54:04 2019 From: james.hartzell at gmail.com (James Hartzell) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 19 10:54:04 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Jan very much--this looks promising and I will try to test it out soon. FYI I received this reply from one of the Ukelele development team members about the possibility of setting something up in Ukelele use Sanskrit-relevant diacritics in MS Word on the Ipad with Apple's smart keyboard: "Sorry, but that's not possible. The iPad has a different keyboard processing system to the Mac, so Mac keyboard layouts won't work with iOS devices. As far as I know, you are limited to the keyboard layouts available in the App Store. Keyman offers the widest variety, I think, but developing a new keyboard is only possible with Keyman Developer, which is Windows-only. But you might find what you need already out there." On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 2:32 PM wrote: > Hello, > > I have underestimated the submission process length, but in case you cannot > use keyboard or install software, I have made a simple online add-in for > Word/PowerPoint that you can use to enter the diacritics (unless your > organization disabled using Office add-ins). > > Windows and Mac: Go to Insert tab > Get Add-Ins and search for Indic > Online in browser: Go to Insert tab > Add-ins > Store and search for Indic > iPad: In landscape mode, go to Insert tab > Add-ins > All > search for > Indic > > Add the add-in and you should get a taskpane with character buttons, see > http://apps.ujca.cz/IndicInputWebPane/ for a screenshot. > > It's not a great typing experience but better than nothing. > > Hope this helps, > Jan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: INDOLOGY On Behalf Of James > Hartzell via INDOLOGY > Sent: ?ter? 13. srpna 2019 7:41 > To: indology at list.indology.info > Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? > > Hello > > Has anyone found a way to type Sanskrit diacritics in MS-Word on the Ipad? > > So far my attempts have been fruitless. > > Cheers > James > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > -- James Hartzell, PhD Basque Center on Cognition, Brain and Language (BCBL), Donostia, Spain Center for Mind/Brain Sciences (CIMeC), The University of Trento, Italy Center for Buddhist Studies, Columbia University, USA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The iPad has a different keyboard processing system to the Mac, so Mac keyboard layouts won't work with iOS devices. As far as I know, you are limited to the keyboard layouts available in the App Store. Keyman offers the widest variety, I think, but developing a new keyboard is only possible with Keyman Developer, which is Windows-only. But you might find what you need already out there." On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 2:32 PM > wrote: Hello, I have underestimated the submission process length, but in case you cannot use keyboard or install software, I have made a simple online add-in for Word/PowerPoint that you can use to enter the diacritics (unless your organization disabled using Office add-ins). Windows and Mac: Go to Insert tab > Get Add-Ins and search for Indic Online in browser: Go to Insert tab > Add-ins > Store and search for Indic iPad: In landscape mode, go to Insert tab > Add-ins > All > search for Indic Add the add-in and you should get a taskpane with character buttons, see http://apps.ujca.cz/IndicInputWebPane/ for a screenshot. It's not a great typing experience but better than nothing. Hope this helps, Jan -----Original Message----- From: INDOLOGY > On Behalf Of James Hartzell via INDOLOGY Sent: ?ter? 13. srpna 2019 7:41 To: indology at list.indology.info Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? Hello Has anyone found a way to type Sanskrit diacritics in MS-Word on the Ipad? So far my attempts have been fruitless. 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URL: From H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl Thu Sep 19 09:26:32 2019 From: H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl (Tieken, H.J.H.) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 19 09:26:32 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In my naivety I have always assumed that k?tai (from Skt g?th?) in the titles of the Cilappatik?ram is a translation of Tamil p???u, "song", as in Pattupp???u, which latter collection is made up of "long" poems like the Cilappatik?ram chapters and as such differs from, for instance, the Ku?untokai. Herman Herman Tieken Stationsweg 58 2515 BP Den Haag The Netherlands 00 31 (0)70 2208127 website: hermantieken.com ________________________________________ Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info] Verzonden: donderdag 19 september 2019 10:18 Aan: indology at list.indology.info Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms Oops ... I now see that I should have written > among the 30 >> cantos of the CILAPPATIK?RAM (?????????????) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silappatikaram -- jl On 19/09/2019 10:08, Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY wrote: > Cher Matthew, > > For the record, you might be interested to know that, among the 30 > cantos of the ????????????? > > 21 are called k?tai (????) > 4 are called vari (???) > 2 are called kuravai (?????) > 2 are called m?lai (????) > 1 is called p??al (?????) > > On page 864 of the Madras Tamil Lexicon, you can read the following > > ????? (p. 864) k?tai ????? k?tai , n. < g?th?. 1. Poem; ??????. (???.) 2. > Division of a poem containing a narrative; ???????????? ?????. (?????. ???. > 63, ???.) > > In a similar manner, > the 30 cantos of the Ma?im?kalai (????????) are all called k?tai (????) > > I hope this is useful > > Meilleurs voeux > > -- Jean-Luc > > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > > > > On 19/09/2019 00:41, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: >> Dear friends, >> >> I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner >> in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, >> and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza and NIA verse. >> I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features >> including meter, rhyme etc. >> >> with thanks in advance, >> Matthew >> >> Get Outlook for iOS >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >> or unsubscribe) >> > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From james.hartzell at gmail.com Thu Sep 19 09:44:26 2019 From: james.hartzell at gmail.com (James Hartzell) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 19 11:44:26 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? In-Reply-To: <0C631F2C-AC32-43EA-B2A7-A4F324FEE5F2@bl.uk> Message-ID: Thanks Burkhard--I will definitely test the Hinglish method as well. Cheers James On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 11:12 AM Quessel, Burkhard wrote: > for what is worth, I am happily using the *hinglish* keyboard on the ipad > for Indian diacritics plus a few added characters via *text replacements* > in settings: > e.g. the m? offered by the hinglish keyboard under m can be replaced with > ? > and other rext replacements can be defined when necessary > > best, > Burkhard > > Sent from my iPad > > On 19 Sep 2019, at 09:55, James Hartzell via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > Thanks Jan very much--this looks promising and I will try to test it out > soon. > > FYI I received this reply from one of the Ukelele development team members > about the possibility of setting something up in Ukelele use > Sanskrit-relevant diacritics in MS Word on the Ipad with Apple's smart > keyboard: > "Sorry, but that's not possible. The iPad has a different keyboard > processing system to the Mac, so Mac keyboard layouts won't work with > iOS devices. As far as I know, you are limited to the keyboard layouts > available in the App Store. Keyman offers the widest variety, I think, > but developing a new keyboard is only possible with Keyman Developer, > which is Windows-only. But you might find what you need already out there." > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 2:32 PM wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I have underestimated the submission process length, but in case you >> cannot >> use keyboard or install software, I have made a simple online add-in for >> Word/PowerPoint that you can use to enter the diacritics (unless your >> organization disabled using Office add-ins). >> >> Windows and Mac: Go to Insert tab > Get Add-Ins and search for Indic >> Online in browser: Go to Insert tab > Add-ins > Store and search for Indic >> iPad: In landscape mode, go to Insert tab > Add-ins > All > search for >> Indic >> >> Add the add-in and you should get a taskpane with character buttons, see >> http://apps.ujca.cz/IndicInputWebPane/ for a screenshot. >> >> It's not a great typing experience but better than nothing. >> >> Hope this helps, >> Jan >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: INDOLOGY On Behalf Of James >> Hartzell via INDOLOGY >> Sent: ?ter? 13. srpna 2019 7:41 >> To: indology at list.indology.info >> Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? >> >> Hello >> >> Has anyone found a way to type Sanskrit diacritics in MS-Word on the Ipad? >> >> So far my attempts have been fruitless. >> >> Cheers >> James >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> >> > > -- > James Hartzell, PhD > Basque Center on Cognition, Brain and Language (BCBL), Donostia, Spain > Center for Mind/Brain Sciences (CIMeC), The University of Trento, Italy > Center for Buddhist Studies, Columbia University, USA > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > > > ****************************************************************************************************************** > Experience the British Library online at www.bl.uk > The British Library?s latest Annual Report and Accounts : > www.bl.uk/aboutus/annrep/index.html > Help the British Library conserve the world's knowledge. 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Ceyar?man) for which the title is: ??????????? ????????? ?[Cilappatik?ra Y?ppamaiti] [[Prosody in Silappathikaram]] Annamalai University publication This 516 pages book is the published version of a Ph.D. thesis I have a Xerox copy of this book thanks to a common friend of ours, who is also a member of this list. Meilleur souvenir -- Jean-Luc https://twitter.com/JLC1956 https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard On 19/09/2019 11:26, Tieken, H.J.H. wrote: > In my naivety I have always assumed that k?tai (from Skt g?th?) in the titles of the Cilappatik?ram is a translation of Tamil p???u, "song", as in Pattupp???u, which latter collection is made up of "long" poems like the Cilappatik?ram chapters and as such differs from, for instance, the Ku?untokai. > Herman > > Herman Tieken > Stationsweg 58 > 2515 BP Den Haag > The Netherlands > 00 31 (0)70 2208127 > website: hermantieken.com > > ________________________________________ > Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info] > Verzonden: donderdag 19 september 2019 10:18 > Aan: indology at list.indology.info > Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms > > Oops ... > > I now see that I should have written > >> among the 30 >>> cantos of the CILAPPATIK?RAM (?????????????) > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silappatikaram > > -- jl > > On 19/09/2019 10:08, Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY wrote: >> Cher Matthew, >> >> For the record, you might be interested to know that, among the 30 >> cantos of the ????????????? >> >> 21 are called k?tai (????) >> 4 are called vari (???) >> 2 are called kuravai (?????) >> 2 are called m?lai (????) >> 1 is called p??al (?????) >> >> On page 864 of the Madras Tamil Lexicon, you can read the following >> >> ????? (p. 864) k?tai ????? k?tai , n. < g?th?. 1. Poem; ??????. (???.) 2. >> Division of a poem containing a narrative; ???????????? ?????. (?????. ???. >> 63, ???.) >> >> In a similar manner, >> the 30 cantos of the Ma?im?kalai (????????) are all called k?tai (????) >> >> I hope this is useful >> >> Meilleurs voeux >> >> -- Jean-Luc >> >> https://twitter.com/JLC1956 >> >> https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard >> >> >> >> On 19/09/2019 00:41, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: >>> Dear friends, >>> >>> I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner >>> in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, >>> and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza and NIA verse. >>> I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features >>> including meter, rhyme etc. >>> >>> with thanks in advance, >>> Matthew >>> >>> Get Outlook for iOS >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>> committee) >>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >>> or unsubscribe) >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > From mkapstei at uchicago.edu Thu Sep 19 10:11:44 2019 From: mkapstei at uchicago.edu (Matthew Kapstein) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 19 10:11:44 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear friends, Thanks to all who responded to my query on gAthA and dohA. I am sorry that I did not make clear that I have very complete material on the Buddhist dohA traditions and so did not need to bother you about that. Also, though the Tamil information is of course quite interesting, it is, I regret to say, outside of my domain. In all events, the references I have received from you promise a good start. Thanks as always, Matthew Matthew Kapstein Directeur d'?tudes, Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, The University of Chicago ________________________________ From: INDOLOGY on behalf of Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 5:04 AM To: indology at list.indology.info Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms Cher Herman, in order to decrease your amount of "na?vet?", you might want to read the 1977 book written by ?. ??. ???????? (Na. V?. Ceyar?man) for which the title is: ??????????? ????????? ?[Cilappatik?ra Y?ppamaiti] [[Prosody in Silappathikaram]] Annamalai University publication This 516 pages book is the published version of a Ph.D. thesis I have a Xerox copy of this book thanks to a common friend of ours, who is also a member of this list. Meilleur souvenir -- Jean-Luc https://twitter.com/JLC1956 https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard On 19/09/2019 11:26, Tieken, H.J.H. wrote: > In my naivety I have always assumed that k?tai (from Skt g?th?) in the titles of the Cilappatik?ram is a translation of Tamil p???u, "song", as in Pattupp???u, which latter collection is made up of "long" poems like the Cilappatik?ram chapters and as such differs from, for instance, the Ku?untokai. > Herman > > Herman Tieken > Stationsweg 58 > 2515 BP Den Haag > The Netherlands > 00 31 (0)70 2208127 > website: hermantieken.com > > ________________________________________ > Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info] > Verzonden: donderdag 19 september 2019 10:18 > Aan: indology at list.indology.info > Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms > > Oops ... > > I now see that I should have written > >> among the 30 >>> cantos of the CILAPPATIK?RAM (?????????????) > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silappatikaram > > -- jl > > On 19/09/2019 10:08, Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY wrote: >> Cher Matthew, >> >> For the record, you might be interested to know that, among the 30 >> cantos of the ????????????? >> >> 21 are called k?tai (????) >> 4 are called vari (???) >> 2 are called kuravai (?????) >> 2 are called m?lai (????) >> 1 is called p??al (?????) >> >> On page 864 of the Madras Tamil Lexicon, you can read the following >> >> ????? (p. 864) k?tai ????? k?tai , n. < g?th?. 1. Poem; ??????. (???.) 2. >> Division of a poem containing a narrative; ???????????? ?????. (?????. ???. >> 63, ???.) >> >> In a similar manner, >> the 30 cantos of the Ma?im?kalai (????????) are all called k?tai (????) >> >> I hope this is useful >> >> Meilleurs voeux >> >> -- Jean-Luc >> >> https://twitter.com/JLC1956 >> >> https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard >> >> >> >> On 19/09/2019 00:41, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: >>> Dear friends, >>> >>> I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner >>> in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, >>> and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza and NIA verse. >>> I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features >>> including meter, rhyme etc. >>> >>> with thanks in advance, >>> Matthew >>> >>> Get Outlook for iOS >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>> committee) >>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >>> or unsubscribe) >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mkapstei at uchicago.edu Thu Sep 19 12:08:24 2019 From: mkapstei at uchicago.edu (Matthew Kapstein) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 19 12:08:24 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Highlights from the Sanskrit corpora In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Martin, I would certainly want to add the JAtakamAlA of AryazUra, both for its intrinsic merits of elegance and emotive subtlety, and for its contribution to the formation of the campU genre. The BodhicaryAvatAra of ZAntideva, too, for its exquisitve expression of a spiritual path. best, Matthew Matthew Kapstein Directeur d'?tudes, Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, The University of Chicago ________________________________ From: INDOLOGY on behalf of Martin Gluckman via INDOLOGY Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 3:40 AM To: Indology List Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Highlights from the Sanskrit corpora Here is what I have so far thank you: 1.Sankara?s Brahma-sutra-bhasya for the superb prose style and clarity. 2. Bha??ik?vya: "I love grammar, I love pedagogy, and I love poetry, and so an epic didactic poem about grammar is just the bee's knees for me." Kindest wishes, Martin On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 5:36 PM Martin Gluckman > wrote: Dear Colleagues, I have a lecture to prepare and am conducting a short survey: I would like to know from the Sanskrit scholarly community what those feel are the utmost most excellent works from the entire corpora and a short line about why. Think of it as "if there were to be a Pullitzer or Booker Prize for the notable Sanskrit works", who and what would be the nominees and why. It could be a text that was of exceptional technical value for example P??ini's A???dhy?y? or those that have introduced a novel method in a field of science for example the Su?rutasa?hit?. Then of course a notable poetic marvel such as ?akuntal?. If there exist some already compiled lists of the same I would most appreciate it. 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And perhaps more unexpectedly, I would recommend N?g?rjuna?s M?lamadhyamakak?rik?, not only for its unrivaled impact on virtually all subsequent Indian thought, initiating debates and sharpening of positions that have continued until today, but even moreso for the elegance, musicality and beauty of its poetry, rarely commented on and invariably lost in translations. best, Dan From mailmealakendudas at rediffmail.com Thu Sep 19 13:08:09 2019 From: mailmealakendudas at rediffmail.com (alakendu das) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 19 13:08:09 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Highlights from the Sanskrit corpora Message-ID: <1568898037.S.6498.autosave.drafts.1568898489.30588@webmail.rediffmail.com> Dr.Gluckman,I personally, would like "VivekChuramani" by Shankaracharya ,for inclusion in the compendium.It is marked by it's lucid style, by which the roots of Adwaitya philosophy has been established.Alakendu Das. Sent from RediffmailNG on Android From: Martin Gluckman via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info> Sent: Tue, 17 Sep 2019 21:07:57 GMT+0530 To: Indology List <indology at list.indology.info> Subject: [INDOLOGY] Highlights from the Sanskrit corpora Dear Colleagues, I have a lecture to prepare and am conducting a short survey: I would like to know from the Sanskrit scholarly community what those feel are the utmost most excellent works from the entire corpora and a short line about why. Think of it as "if there were to be a Pullitzer or Booker Prize for the notable Sanskrit works", who and what would be the nominees and why. It could be a text that was of exceptional technical value for example P??ini's A???dhy?y? or those that have introduced a novel method in a field of science for example the Su?rutasa?hit?. Then of course a notable poetic marvel such as ?akuntal?. If there exist some already compiled lists of the same I would most appreciate it. With warmest wishes, Martin _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Thu Sep 19 13:19:21 2019 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 19 06:19:21 -0700 Subject: [INDOLOGY] [Dis]continuing my Krishna verses Message-ID: Dear Friends, When I started writing my Krishna verses, I had no idea that this would become such a long time pre-occupation. I have now decided that I will no longer continue to send these verses daily to Indology. If you are still interested in reading them, you can read them either on my FaceBook page, or let me know privately so that I can form a small group of interested readers. In a not too distant future, these verses will appear in a book form. With best wishes, Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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He had continued his research until only about three years ago, when he began to lose strength due to a gradual deterioration of his health. The following is a gist of his biography, basically extracted from the preface of the Felicitation Volume Praj??dhara: Essays on Asian Art, History, Epigraphy and Culture in Honour of Gouriswar Bhattacharya, 2009 (two volumes, edited by Gerd J. R. Mevissen and Arundhati Banerji, New Delhi: Kaveri Books): Dr. Gouriswar Bhattacharya was born at English Bazar, Malda, in then undivided Bengal. After obtaining his M.A. degree in Sanskrit (with various specialisations) from the University of Calcutta in 1950, he taught Sanskrit and epigraphy at the renowned Visva-Bharati, Santiniketan, where he also served as Keeper of Sanskrit manuscripts from 1951?1955. He later joined the Epigraphy Branch of the Archaeological Survey of India, then located at Ootacamund, where he collaborated with the doyen of Indian epigraphy, Dineschandra Sircar. Much to Sircar?s regret, Bhattacharya forsook his assignment in 1961 and left India for Europe, where he initially focussed on a painter?s career. From 1962, and until 1967, he pursued postgraduate studies in Sanskrit, as well as in English and French literatures, at the University of Basel/Switzerland, where he was awarded his doctorate. An assignment at the then Museum of Indian Art (the holdings of which are nowadays part of the Asian Art Museum, State Museums of Berlin) with its founding director Prof. Herbert H?rtel brought him to Berlin in 1968, where he continued to live even after his retirement, teaching Indian epigraphy and art history at the Freie Universit?t Berlin for an extended period. His colleagues and friends in Kolkata and Berlin, and worldwide, too, will be missing him dearly. His passing is indeed a great loss to our discipline. We will also remember him as a very kind and generous, sociable person, who always remained true to himself. 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Best wishes, Eli Sent from my iPad > On 19.09.2019, at 21:08, alakendu das via INDOLOGY wrote: > > Dr.Gluckman, > I personally, would like "VivekChuramani" by Shankaracharya ,for inclusion in the compendium.It is marked by it's lucid style, by which the roots of Adwaitya philosophy has been established. > Alakendu Das. > > Sent from RediffmailNG on Android > > > > > From: Martin Gluckman via INDOLOGY > Sent: Tue, 17 Sep 2019 21:07:57 GMT+0530 > To: Indology List > Subject: [INDOLOGY] Highlights from the Sanskrit corpora > > Dear Colleagues, > > I have a lecture to prepare and am conducting a short survey: > > I would like to know from the Sanskrit scholarly community what those feel are the utmost most excellent works from the entire corpora and a short line about why. > > Think of it as "if there were to be a Pullitzer or Booker Prize for the notable Sanskrit works", who and what would be the nominees and why. > > It could be a text that was of exceptional technical value for example P??ini's A???dhy?y? or those that have introduced a novel method in a field of science for example the Su?rutasa?hit?. 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URL: From camillo.formigatti at bodleian.ox.ac.uk Thu Sep 19 16:49:13 2019 From: camillo.formigatti at bodleian.ox.ac.uk (Camillo Formigatti) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 19 16:49:13 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Highlights from the Sanskrit corpora In-Reply-To: <1568898037.S.6498.autosave.drafts.1568898489.30588@webmail.rediffmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Martin, As far as I can see, nobody has yet mentioned K?lid?sa?s Meghad?ta, surely a timeless classic not only of Sanskrit, but of world literature. ?Was will man denn Vergn?glicher wissen! Sakontala, Nala, die mu? man k?ssen; Und Meghaduta, den Wolkengesandten, Wer schickt ihn nicht gerne zu Seelenverwandten!? Best wishes, Camillo ________________________________ Dr Camillo A. Formigatti John Clay Sanskrit Librarian Bodleian Libraries The Weston Library Broad Street, Oxford OX1 3BG Email: camillo.formigatti at bodleian.ox.ac.uk Tel. (office): 01865 (2)77208 www.bodleian.ox.ac.uk GROW YOUR MIND in Oxford University?s Gardens, Libraries and Museums www.mindgrowing.org From: alakendu das Sent: 19 September 2019 14:08 To: m.gluckman at alumni.anu.edu.au Cc: Indology List Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Highlights from the Sanskrit corpora Dr.Gluckman, I personally, would like "VivekChuramani" by Shankaracharya ,for inclusion in the compendium.It is marked by it's lucid style, by which the roots of Adwaitya philosophy has been established. Alakendu Das. Sent from RediffmailNG on Android From: Martin Gluckman via INDOLOGY > Sent: Tue, 17 Sep 2019 21:07:57 GMT+0530 To: Indology List > Subject: [INDOLOGY] Highlights from the Sanskrit corpora Dear Colleagues, I have a lecture to prepare and am conducting a short survey: I would like to know from the Sanskrit scholarly community what those feel are the utmost most excellent works from the entire corpora and a short line about why. Think of it as "if there were to be a Pullitzer or Booker Prize for the notable Sanskrit works", who and what would be the nominees and why. It could be a text that was of exceptional technical value for example P??ini's A???dhy?y? or those that have introduced a novel method in a field of science for example the Su?rutasa?hit?. Then of course a notable poetic marvel such as ?akuntal?. If there exist some already compiled lists of the same I would most appreciate it. With warmest wishes, Martin _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sakontala, Nala, die mu? man k?ssen; Und Meghaduta, den Wolkengesandten, Wer schickt ihn nicht gerne zu Seelenverwandten!? Best wishes, Camillo ________________________________ Dr Camillo A. Formigatti John Clay Sanskrit Librarian Bodleian Libraries The Weston Library Broad Street, Oxford OX1 3BG Email: camillo.formigatti at bodleian.ox.ac.uk Tel. (office): 01865 (2)77208 www.bodleian.ox.ac.uk GROW YOUR MIND in Oxford University?s Gardens, Libraries and Museums www.mindgrowing.org From: alakendu das Sent: 19 September 2019 14:08 To: m.gluckman at alumni.anu.edu.au Cc: Indology List Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Highlights from the Sanskrit corpora Dr.Gluckman, I personally, would like "VivekChuramani" by Shankaracharya ,for inclusion in the compendium.It is marked by it's lucid style, by which the roots of Adwaitya philosophy has been established. Alakendu Das. Sent from RediffmailNG on Android From: Martin Gluckman via INDOLOGY > Sent: Tue, 17 Sep 2019 21:07:57 GMT+0530 To: Indology List > Subject: [INDOLOGY] Highlights from the Sanskrit corpora Dear Colleagues, I have a lecture to prepare and am conducting a short survey: I would like to know from the Sanskrit scholarly community what those feel are the utmost most excellent works from the entire corpora and a short line about why. Think of it as "if there were to be a Pullitzer or Booker Prize for the notable Sanskrit works", who and what would be the nominees and why. It could be a text that was of exceptional technical value for example P??ini's A???dhy?y? or those that have introduced a novel method in a field of science for example the Su?rutasa?hit?. Then of course a notable poetic marvel such as ?akuntal?. If there exist some already compiled lists of the same I would most appreciate it. With warmest wishes, Martin _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From huesken at uni-heidelberg.de Thu Sep 19 19:51:17 2019 From: huesken at uni-heidelberg.de (Huesken, Prof. Dr. Ute) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 19 19:51:17 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] ECSAS 2020 panel CfP: Dynamics of Female Agency in Religious Settings in India Message-ID: <80CA1491-F4B2-4E89-B1D6-FD9DB7FF6C3F@uni-heidelberg.de> Dear list members I would like to make you aware of the panel ?Dynamics of Female Agency in Religious Settings in India? and encourage you to submit papers there. Dynamics of Female Agency in Religious Settings in India https://ecsas2020.univie.ac.at/panels/v1zar/ The panel shall serve as a forum for discussion of dynamics of female religious and ritual leadership in the Indian religious traditions. The aim is to facilitate conversations between scholars studying specific cultural, historical and geographical situations in which women acquire such agency. id: v1zar Convenors: ? Vinita Chandra Indian Institute of Technology (BHU) (Varanasi, India) ? Dr. Ute H?sken South Asia Institute, Heidelberg University (Heidelberg, Germany) ________________________________ Long Abstract In most mainstream religious traditions, women are excluded from positions of religious and ritual leadership. Recently this situation has started to change: in an increasing number of contexts, women can and do undergo monastic and priestly education; they can receive ordination/initiation as Buddhist nuns and Hindu priestesses; and they are accepted as ascetic religious leaders. Still these processes largely take place outside of traditional religious institutions. Yet women are starting to establish new religious trends, occupying positions of religious leadership on par with men. In some cases, this process takes place in collaboration with male counterparts of the women leaders, in others against their will. In traditional settings, notably the gender of the female religious leaders constitutes the new element, which may be rejected, embraced, or accommodated. This panel sets out to look at the historical background, contemporary trajectories, and impact of the emergence of new powerful female agencies in these conservative religious traditions ? a change, which paradoxically takes place while women?s rights in modern and liberal settings are being curtailed. Which strategies do the women employ that allow them to integrate in a tradition that excludes them? Who are the agents behind these processes? Who decides which elements of text and practice are essential and which are subject to negotiation? What is appropriated, or rejected by the new actors? How do the processes of negotiation unfold? What are the competing agendas of the diverse stakeholders, including men involved in the processes? We welcome papers around these, but also other questions on the theme Prof. Dr. Ute H?sken Vice Dean, Faculty of Arts Head of Department, Cultural and Religious History of South Asia Heidelberg University Vo?strasse 2, Building 4130, Room 130.02.15 69115 Heidelberg Germany Phone: +49-6221-54 15261 Email: huesken at uni-heidelberg.de -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From psdmccartney at gmail.com Fri Sep 20 01:48:57 2019 From: psdmccartney at gmail.com (patrick mccartney) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 19 10:48:57 +0900 Subject: [INDOLOGY] ASM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks to Shayne Clarke and Andrey Klebanov for helping me find the document. https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.105177 All the best, ????? ??????? Patrick McCartney, PhD JSPS Fellow - Graduate School of Global Environmental Studies, Kyoto University, Japan Research Associate - Nanzan University Anthropological Institute, Nagoya, Japan Research Affiliate - Organization for Identity and Cultural Development (OICD), Kyoto Visiting Fellow - South and South-east Asian Studies Department, Australian National University Member - South Asia Research Institute (SARI), Australian National University Skype / Zoom - psdmccartney Phone + Whatsapp + Line: +81-80-9811-3235 Twitter - @psdmccartney @yogascapesinjap Yogascapes in Japan Academia Linkedin Modern Yoga Research *bodhap?rvam calema* ;-) - On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 1:12 AM patrick mccartney wrote: > Hello, I am looking for this > Archaeological Survey of Mysore, 1938(98). > Thanks. > -- > All the best, > > ????? ??????? > Patrick McCartney, PhD > JSPS Fellow - Graduate School of Global Environmental Studies, Kyoto > University, Japan > Research Associate - Nanzan University Anthropological Institute, Nagoya, > Japan > Research Affiliate - Organization for Identity and Cultural Development > (OICD), Kyoto > Visiting Fellow - South and South-east Asian Studies Department, Australian > National University > Member - South Asia Research Institute (SARI), Australian National > University > > Skype / Zoom - psdmccartney > Phone + Whatsapp + Line: +81-80-9811-3235 > Twitter - @psdmccartney @yogascapesinjap > Yogascapes in Japan Academia > Linkedin > > Modern Yoga Research > > *bodhap?rvam calema* ;-) > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But maybe they belong in a category of their own; admittedly, I wouldn't submit them for the Sanskrit-Pulitzer. Lastly, modern Sanskrit works (single-authored, book-length) could also be considered, but unfortunately I cannot give any justified recommendations here. Best wishes, Dominik __________________ Dominik A. Haas, BA MA PhD student, University of Vienna dominik.haas at univie.ac.at ORCID: 0000-0002-8505-6112 [1] academia.edu/DominikHaas [2] Am 2019-09-17 17:37, schrieb Martin Gluckman via INDOLOGY: > Dear Colleagues, > > I have a lecture to prepare and am conducting a short survey: > > I would like to know from the Sanskrit scholarly community what those feel are the utmost most excellent works from the entire corpora and a short line about why. > > Think of it as "if there were to be a Pullitzer or Booker Prize for the notable Sanskrit works", who and what would be the nominees and why. > > It could be a text that was of exceptional technical value for example P??ini's A???dhy?y? or those that have introduced a novel method in a field of science for example the Su?rutasa?hit?. Then of course a notable poetic marvel such as ?akuntal?. > > If there exist some already compiled lists of the same I would most appreciate it. > > With warmest wishes, > > Martin > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) Links: ------ [1] https://orcid.org/0000-0002-8505-6112 [2] https://univie.academia.edu/DominikHaas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Everyone is welcome, please register at srr at soas.ac.uk Warmly, Lidia Wojtczak Tuesday, 8th October, 1-3pm *James Mallinson* Gorak?a?s Early Works: Readings in the *Gorak?a?ataka* and *Vivekam?rta??a* (Part 1) G10, 26 Russell Square, SOAS. Tuesday, 22nd October, 1-3pm *Jason Birch* Yogab?ja: A Robust Defence of Yoga G10, 26 Russell Square, SOAS. Tuesday, 19th November, 1-3pm *James Mallinson* Gorak?a?s Early Works: Readings in the *Gorak?a?ataka* and *Vivekam?rta??a* (Part 2) Room TBC, SOAS -- SOAS, University of London Sanskrit Reading Room *The Sanskrit Reading Room * Sanskrit at SOAS *Sanskrit at SOAS * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: jasonbirchjamesmallinsonreadingsessions.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 419291 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 2:47 PM Harry Spier via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear list members, > > Does anyone know the source of this verse: > > dehad???y? tu d?so'ha? j?vad???y? tvada??aka? | > > ?tmad???y? tvamev?ham iti me ni?cit? mati? || > > Thanks, > > Harry Spier > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Here is the discussion: > > ???????????????? ???? ?????? ?? > > ????????-?????? ??? ????????? ?? ?? ??????? ?? ?? ??????? ?? ???????????? > ?? ?????????????? ?? ????? ???? ?? | ?????????? ?? ?????? > ?????????????????? ???? ????? ????????? ?? ? ?????? ??????? ?? ??????? ?? > ?? ??? ?? ??, ?????? ?? ????? ???? ??? ? > > ???????????? ?? ??????? ??????????? ???????: | > ?????????? ???????????? ?? ???????? ???: ||? > > > I don't have any verse index to Adhy?tma-R?m?ya?a, or a searchable text. > Hopefully, you can find this verse there. Best, > > > Madhav M. Deshpande > Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics > University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies > > [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] > > > On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 2:47 PM Harry Spier via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Dear list members, >> >> Does anyone know the source of this verse: >> >> dehad???y? tu d?so'ha? j?vad???y? tvada??aka? | >> >> ?tmad???y? tvamev?ham iti me ni?cit? mati? || >> >> Thanks, >> >> Harry Spier >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Submissions are very welcome. Best wishes, Vitus Angermeier From mailmealakendudas at rediffmail.com Mon Sep 23 13:09:23 2019 From: mailmealakendudas at rediffmail.com (alakendu das) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 13:09:23 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Bhamati-text with Hindi translation Message-ID: <20190923130923.8549.qmail@f4mail-235-143.rediffmail.com> To all, Can anybody kindly let me know any version of Bachaspati Misra's "Bhamati' with Hindi translation.Alakendu Das Sent from RediffmailNG on Android -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 19.09.2019 um 10:03 schrieb Nagaraj Paturi via INDOLOGY : > In view of Gatha-Arya connection , > > The origins of the??ry??metre > by > Prof. K.R. Norman? > > https://www.ancient-buddhist-texts.net/Textual-Studies/Prosody-Articles/Norman-Arya.htm? > > may be useful.?? > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 1:30 PM Nagaraj Paturi wrote: > Sharing a snapshot of a page from a book? > > The Sants : Studies in a Devotional Tradition of India by W H McLeod > > In the footnotes it has a few references that may be useful > > The page is?here.? > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:15 PM Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY wrote: > For the doh?, see M. Shahidullah, Les chants mystiques de K??ha et de Saraha, pp. 60-66. > Though occasionally rhyme may be found in other, earlier, texts (I remember having read something somewhere about these "predecessors, written by D. Goodall) it has become a systematic feature of Apabhra??a texts (folk songs). > L. Alsdorf, Apabhra??a-Studien. AKM XXII 2, pp. 39-56. > > Herman > > Herman Tieken > Stationsweg 58 > 2515 BP Den Haag > The Netherlands > 00 31 (0)70 2208127 > website: hermantieken.com > > Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info] > Verzonden: donderdag 19 september 2019 0:41 > Aan: indology at list.indology.info > Onderwerp: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms > > > Dear friends, > > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza ?and NIA verse. I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features including meter, rhyme etc.? > > with thanks in advance, > Matthew? > > Get Outlook for iOS > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > ? > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > Director,? Inter-Gurukula-University Centre , Indic Academy > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala > BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies,? > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of??Liberal Education,? > (Pune, Maharashtra,?INDIA?) > ? > ? > ? > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > ? > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > Director,? Inter-Gurukula-University Centre , Indic Academy > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala > BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies,? > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of??Liberal Education,? > (Pune, Maharashtra,?INDIA?) > ? > ? > ? > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:31:33 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:31:33 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <76A81B73-7AD5-46D2-8B51-6C40C2112B85@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 19.09.2019 um 12:11 schrieb Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY : > > Dear friends, > > Thanks to all who responded to my query on gAthA and dohA. I am sorry that I did not make clear that I have very complete material on the Buddhist dohA traditions and so did not need to bother you about that. Also, though the Tamil information is of course quite interesting, it is, I regret to say, outside of my domain. > > In all events, the references I have received from you promise a good start. > Thanks as always, > > Matthew > > Matthew Kapstein > Directeur d'?tudes, > Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes > > Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, > The University of Chicago > > From: INDOLOGY on behalf of Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 5:04 AM > To: indology at list.indology.info > Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms > ? > Cher Herman, > > in order to decrease your amount of "na?vet?", you might want to read > the 1977 book written by ?. ??. ???????? (Na. V?. Ceyar?man) > for which the title is: > > ??????????? ????????? ?[Cilappatik?ra Y?ppamaiti] > [[Prosody in Silappathikaram]] > > Annamalai University publication > > This 516 pages book is the published version of a Ph.D. thesis > > I have a Xerox copy of this book thanks to a common friend of ours, who > is also a member of this list. > > Meilleur souvenir > > -- Jean-Luc > > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > > > > On 19/09/2019 11:26, Tieken, H.J.H. wrote: > > In my naivety I have always assumed that k?tai (from Skt g?th?) in the titles of the Cilappatik?ram is a translation of Tamil p???u, "song", as in Pattupp???u, which latter collection is made up of "long" poems like the Cilappatik?ram chapters and as such differs from, for instance, the Ku?untokai. > > Herman > > > > Herman Tieken > > Stationsweg 58 > > 2515 BP Den Haag > > The Netherlands > > 00 31 (0)70 2208127 > > website: hermantieken.com > > > > ________________________________________ > > Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info] > > Verzonden: donderdag 19 september 2019 10:18 > > Aan: indology at list.indology.info > > Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms > > > > Oops ... > > > > I now see that I should have written > > > >> among the 30 > >>> cantos of the CILAPPATIK?RAM (?????????????) > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silappatikaram > > > > -- jl > > > > On 19/09/2019 10:08, Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY wrote: > >> Cher Matthew, > >> > >> For the record, you might be interested to know that, among the 30 > >> cantos of the ????????????? > >> > >> 21 are called k?tai (????) > >> 4 are called vari (???) > >> 2 are called kuravai (?????) > >> 2 are called m?lai (????) > >> 1 is called p??al (?????) > >> > >> On page 864 of the Madras Tamil Lexicon, you can read the following > >> > >> ????? (p. 864) k?tai ????? k?tai , n. < g?th?. 1. Poem; ??????. (???.) 2. > >> Division of a poem containing a narrative; ???????????? ?????. (?????. ???. > >> 63, ???.) > >> > >> In a similar manner, > >> the 30 cantos of the Ma?im?kalai (????????) are all called k?tai (????) > >> > >> I hope this is useful > >> > >> Meilleurs voeux > >> > >> -- Jean-Luc > >> > >> https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > >> > >> https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > >> > >> > >> > >> On 19/09/2019 00:41, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: > >>> Dear friends, > >>> > >>> I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner > >>> in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, > >>> and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza? and NIA verse. > >>> I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features > >>> including meter, rhyme etc. > >>> > >>> with thanks in advance, > >>> Matthew > >>> > >>> Get Outlook for iOS > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> INDOLOGY mailing list > >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > >>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > >>> committee) > >>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options > >>> or unsubscribe) > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> INDOLOGY mailing list > >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > >> committee) > >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > >> unsubscribe) > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > INDOLOGY mailing list > > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:32:18 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:32:18 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 19.09.2019 um 10:54 schrieb James Hartzell via INDOLOGY : > Thanks Jan very much--this looks promising and I will try to test it out soon. > > FYI I received this reply from one of the Ukelele development team members about the possibility of setting something up in Ukelele use Sanskrit-relevant diacritics in MS Word on the Ipad with Apple's smart keyboard: > "Sorry, but that's not possible. The iPad has a different keyboard > processing system to the Mac, so Mac keyboard layouts won't work with > iOS devices. As far as I know, you are limited to the keyboard layouts > available in the App Store. Keyman offers the widest variety, I think, > but developing a new keyboard is only possible with Keyman Developer, > which is Windows-only. But you might find what you need already out there." > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 2:32 PM wrote: > Hello, > > I have underestimated the submission process length, but in case you cannot > use keyboard or install software, I have made a simple online add-in for > Word/PowerPoint that you can use to enter the diacritics (unless your > organization disabled using Office add-ins). > > Windows and Mac: Go to Insert tab > Get Add-Ins and search for Indic > Online in browser: Go to Insert tab > Add-ins > Store and search for Indic > iPad: In landscape mode, go to Insert tab > Add-ins > All > search for Indic > > Add the add-in and you should get a taskpane with character buttons, see > http://apps.ujca.cz/IndicInputWebPane/ for a screenshot. > > It's not a great typing experience but better than nothing. > > Hope this helps, > Jan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: INDOLOGY On Behalf Of James > Hartzell via INDOLOGY > Sent: ?ter? 13. srpna 2019 7:41 > To: indology at list.indology.info > Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? > > Hello > > Has anyone found a way to type Sanskrit diacritics in MS-Word on the Ipad? > > So far my attempts have been fruitless. > > Cheers > James > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > > -- > James Hartzell, PhD > Basque Center on Cognition, Brain and Language (BCBL), Donostia, Spain > Center for Mind/Brain Sciences (CIMeC), The University of Trento, Italy > Center for Buddhist Studies, Columbia University, USA > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:32:27 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:32:27 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Bhamati-text with Hindi translation In-Reply-To: <514972E4-11A8-4FAC-A688-500DCE594A40@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7CBAD4BB-63B4-435D-BC79-377BBADDB7D5@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 18:43 schrieb Elliot Stern via INDOLOGY : > Part 1 of a Hindi translation is available at archive.org: > > https://archive.org/details/BrahmaSutraShankaraBhashyaBhamatiVachaspatiBhamatiHindiVyakhyaSwamiYogindranandPart1Chowkambha_201806/page/n21 > > > > On Sep 23, 2019, at 9:09 AM, alakendu das via INDOLOGY wrote: > To all, Can anybody kindly let me know any version of Bachaspati Misra's "Bhamati' with Hindi translation. > Alakendu Das > > > > Sent from RediffmailNG on Android > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > Elliot M. Stern > 552 South 48th Street > Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029 > emstern1948 at gmail.com > 267-240-8418 > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:32:36 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:32:36 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 19.09.2019 um 11:26 schrieb Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY : > In my naivety I have always assumed that k?tai (from Skt g?th?) in the titles of the Cilappatik?ram is a translation of Tamil p???u, "song", as in Pattupp???u, which latter collection is made up of "long" poems like the Cilappatik?ram chapters and as such differs from, for instance, the Ku?untokai. > Herman > > Herman Tieken > Stationsweg 58 > 2515 BP Den Haag > The Netherlands > 00 31 (0)70 2208127 > website: hermantieken.com > > ________________________________________ > Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info] > Verzonden: donderdag 19 september 2019 10:18 > Aan: indology at list.indology.info > Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms > > Oops ... > > I now see that I should have written > > among the 30 > cantos of the CILAPPATIK?RAM (?????????????) > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silappatikaram > > -- jl > > On 19/09/2019 10:08, Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY wrote: > Cher Matthew, > > For the record, you might be interested to know that, among the 30 > cantos of the ????????????? > > 21 are called k?tai (????) > 4 are called vari (???) > 2 are called kuravai (?????) > 2 are called m?lai (????) > 1 is called p??al (?????) > > On page 864 of the Madras Tamil Lexicon, you can read the following > > ????? (p. 864) k?tai ????? k?tai , n. < g?th?. 1. Poem; ??????. (???.) 2. > Division of a poem containing a narrative; ???????????? ?????. (?????. ???. > 63, ???.) > > In a similar manner, > the 30 cantos of the Ma?im?kalai (????????) are all called k?tai (????) > > I hope this is useful > > Meilleurs voeux > > -- Jean-Luc > > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > > > > On 19/09/2019 00:41, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear friends, > > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner > in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, > and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza ?and NIA verse. > I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features > including meter, rhyme etc. > > with thanks in advance, > Matthew > > Get Outlook for iOS > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options > or unsubscribe) > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:33:00 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:33:00 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: <2f423ead-ad30-c2f9-9895-4eed676067a4@univ-paris-diderot.fr> Message-ID: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 19.09.2019 um 10:08 schrieb Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY : > Cher Matthew, > > For the record, you might be interested to know that, among the 30 cantos of the ????????????? > > 21 are called k?tai (????) > 4 are called vari (???) > 2 are called kuravai (?????) > 2 are called m?lai (????) > 1 is called p??al (?????) > > On page 864 of the Madras Tamil Lexicon, you can read the following > > ????? (p. 864) k?tai ????? k?tai , n. < g?th?. 1. Poem; ??????. (???.) 2. Division of a poem containing a narrative; ???????????? ?????. (?????. ???. 63, ???.) > > In a similar manner, > the 30 cantos of the Ma?im?kalai (????????) are all called k?tai (????) > > I hope this is useful > > Meilleurs voeux > > -- Jean-Luc > > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > > > > On 19/09/2019 00:41, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear friends, > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza ?and NIA verse. I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features including meter, rhyme etc. > with thanks in advance, > Matthew > Get Outlook for iOS > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:33:10 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:33:10 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Source of verse In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2A9EBDD5-FF2E-4FB2-8149-400C80231861@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 00:07 schrieb Harry Spier via INDOLOGY : > Thank you for this Madhav. > Harry > > On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 7:26 PM Madhav Deshpande wrote: > Hi Harry, > > ? ? ?One of the discussions on FaceBook quotes this verse as Hanum?n's response to R?ma in the Adhy?tma-R?m?ya?a.? Here is the discussion: > > ???????????????? ???? ?????? ?? > ????????-?????? ??? ????????? ?? ?? ??????? ?? ?? ??????? ?? ???????????? ?? ?????????????? ?? ????? ???? ?? | ?????????? ?? ?????? ?????????????????? ???? ????? ????????? ?? ? ?????? ??????? ?? ??????? ?? ?? ??? ?? ??, ?????? ?? ????? ???? ??? ? > ???????????? ?? ??????? ??????????? ???????: | > ?????????? ???????????? ?? ???????? ???: ||? > > > I don't have any verse index to Adhy?tma-R?m?ya?a, or a searchable text.? Hopefully, you can find this verse there.? Best, > > > Madhav M. Deshpande > Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics > University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies > > [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] > > > On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 2:47 PM Harry Spier via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear list members, > > Does anyone know the source of this verse: > ?dehad???y? tu d?so'ha? j?vad???y? tvada??aka? | > ?tmad???y? tvamev?ham iti me ni?cit? mati? || > Thanks, > Harry Spier > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:33:40 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:33:40 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5041157F-7481-41CB-B3B2-0EABE4C8F163@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 19.09.2019 um 11:44 schrieb James Hartzell via INDOLOGY : > Thanks Burkhard--I will definitely test the Hinglish method as well. > Cheers > James > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 11:12 AM Quessel, Burkhard wrote: > for what is worth, I am happily using the hinglish keyboard on the ipad for Indian diacritics ?plus a few added characters via text replacements in settings: > e.g. the ?m? offered by the hinglish keyboard under m can be replaced with ?? > and other rext replacements can be defined when necessary > > best, > Burkhard > > Sent from my iPad > > On 19 Sep 2019, at 09:55, James Hartzell via INDOLOGY wrote: > > Thanks Jan very much--this looks promising and I will try to test it out soon. > > FYI I received this reply from one of the Ukelele development team members about the possibility of setting something up in Ukelele use Sanskrit-relevant diacritics in MS Word on the Ipad with Apple's smart keyboard: > "Sorry, but that's not possible. The iPad has a different keyboard > processing system to the Mac, so Mac keyboard layouts won't work with > iOS devices. As far as I know, you are limited to the keyboard layouts > available in the App Store. Keyman offers the widest variety, I think, > but developing a new keyboard is only possible with Keyman Developer, > which is Windows-only. But you might find what you need already out there." > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 2:32 PM wrote: > Hello, > > I have underestimated the submission process length, but in case you cannot > use keyboard or install software, I have made a simple online add-in for > Word/PowerPoint that you can use to enter the diacritics (unless your > organization disabled using Office add-ins). > > Windows and Mac: Go to Insert tab > Get Add-Ins and search for Indic > Online in browser: Go to Insert tab > Add-ins > Store and search for Indic > iPad: In landscape mode, go to Insert tab > Add-ins > All > search for Indic > > Add the add-in and you should get a taskpane with character buttons, see > http://apps.ujca.cz/IndicInputWebPane/ for a screenshot. > > It's not a great typing experience but better than nothing. > > Hope this helps, > Jan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: INDOLOGY On Behalf Of James > Hartzell via INDOLOGY > Sent: ?ter? 13. srpna 2019 7:41 > To: indology at list.indology.info > Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? > > Hello > > Has anyone found a way to type Sanskrit diacritics in MS-Word on the Ipad? > > So far my attempts have been fruitless. > > Cheers > James > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > > -- > James Hartzell, PhD > Basque Center on Cognition, Brain and Language (BCBL), Donostia, Spain > Center for Mind/Brain Sciences (CIMeC), The University of Trento, Italy > Center for Buddhist Studies, Columbia University, USA > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > ? > ****************************************************************************************************************** > Experience the British Library online at www.bl.uk > > The British Library?s latest Annual Report and Accounts : www.bl.uk/aboutus/annrep/index.html > > Help the British Library conserve the world's knowledge. Adopt a Book. www.bl.uk/adoptabook > > The Library's St Pancras site is WiFi - enabled > > ***************************************************************************************************************** > > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the postmaster at bl.uk : The contents of this e-mail must not be disclosed or copied without the sender's consent. > > The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the British Library. The British Library does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. > > ***************************************************************************************************************** > Think before you print > > > -- > James Hartzell, PhD > Basque Center on Cognition, Brain and Language (BCBL), Donostia, Spain > Center for Mind/Brain Sciences (CIMeC), The University of Trento, Italy > Center for Buddhist Studies, Columbia University, USA > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:33:54 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:33:54 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <64C54D10-FE84-4C3C-B5AD-2FC9D80F68CF@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 19.09.2019 um 10:18 schrieb Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY : > Oops ... > > I now see that I should have written > > among the 30 > cantos of the CILAPPATIK?RAM (?????????????) > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silappatikaram > > -- jl > > On 19/09/2019 10:08, Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY wrote: > Cher Matthew, > For the record, you might be interested to know that, among the 30 cantos of the ????????????? > 21 are called k?tai (????) > 4 are called vari (???) > 2 are called kuravai (?????) > 2 are called m?lai (????) > 1 is called p??al (?????) > On page 864 of the Madras Tamil Lexicon, you can read the following > ????? (p. 864) k?tai ????? k?tai , n. < g?th?. 1. Poem; ??????. (???.) 2. Division of a poem containing a narrative; ???????????? ?????. (?????. ???. 63, ???.) > In a similar manner, > the 30 cantos of the Ma?im?kalai (????????) are all called k?tai (????) > I hope this is useful > Meilleurs voeux > -- Jean-Luc > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > On 19/09/2019 00:41, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear friends, > > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza ?and NIA verse. I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features including meter, rhyme etc. > > with thanks in advance, > Matthew > > Get Outlook for iOS > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:34:20 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:34:20 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] [Dis]continuing my Krishna verses In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 19.09.2019 um 15:19 schrieb Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY : > Dear Friends, > > ? ? ?When I started writing my Krishna verses, I had no idea that this would become such a long time pre-occupation.? I have now decided that I will no longer continue to send these verses daily to Indology.? If you are still interested in reading them, you can read them either on my FaceBook page, or let me know privately so that I can form a small group of interested readers.? In a not too?distant future, these verses will appear in a book form.? With best wishes, > > Madhav M. Deshpande > Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics > University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies > > [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:34:34 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:34:34 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 19.09.2019 um 10:00 schrieb Nagaraj Paturi via INDOLOGY : > Sharing a snapshot of a page from a book? > > The Sants : Studies in a Devotional Tradition of India by W H McLeod > > In the footnotes it has a few references that may be useful > > The page is?here.? > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:15 PM Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY wrote: > For the doh?, see M. Shahidullah, Les chants mystiques de K??ha et de Saraha, pp. 60-66. > Though occasionally rhyme may be found in other, earlier, texts (I remember having read something somewhere about these "predecessors, written by D. Goodall) it has become a systematic feature of Apabhra??a texts (folk songs). > L. Alsdorf, Apabhra??a-Studien. AKM XXII 2, pp. 39-56. > > Herman > > Herman Tieken > Stationsweg 58 > 2515 BP Den Haag > The Netherlands > 00 31 (0)70 2208127 > website: hermantieken.com > > Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info] > Verzonden: donderdag 19 september 2019 0:41 > Aan: indology at list.indology.info > Onderwerp: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms > > > Dear friends, > > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza ?and NIA verse. I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features including meter, rhyme etc.? > > with thanks in advance, > Matthew? > > Get Outlook for iOS > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > ? > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > Director,? Inter-Gurukula-University Centre , Indic Academy > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala > BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies,? > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of??Liberal Education,? > (Pune, Maharashtra,?INDIA?) > ? > ? > ? > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:34:35 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:34:35 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 19.09.2019 um 12:04 schrieb Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY : > Cher Herman, > > in order to decrease your amount of "na?vet?", you might want to read the 1977 book written by ?. ??. ???????? (Na. V?. Ceyar?man) > for which the title is: > > ??????????? ????????? ?[Cilappatik?ra Y?ppamaiti] > [[Prosody in Silappathikaram]] > > Annamalai University publication > > This 516 pages book is the published version of a Ph.D. thesis > > I have a Xerox copy of this book thanks to a common friend of ours, who is also a member of this list. > > Meilleur souvenir > > -- Jean-Luc > > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > > > > On 19/09/2019 11:26, Tieken, H.J.H. wrote: > In my naivety I have always assumed that k?tai (from Skt g?th?) in the titles of the Cilappatik?ram is a translation of Tamil p???u, "song", as in Pattupp???u, which latter collection is made up of "long" poems like the Cilappatik?ram chapters and as such differs from, for instance, the Ku?untokai. > Herman > Herman Tieken > Stationsweg 58 > 2515 BP Den Haag > The Netherlands > 00 31 (0)70 2208127 > website: hermantieken.com > ________________________________________ > Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info] > Verzonden: donderdag 19 september 2019 10:18 > Aan: indology at list.indology.info > Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms > Oops ... > I now see that I should have written > among the 30 > cantos of the CILAPPATIK?RAM (?????????????) > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silappatikaram > -- jl > On 19/09/2019 10:08, Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY wrote: > Cher Matthew, > > For the record, you might be interested to know that, among the 30 > cantos of the ????????????? > > 21 are called k?tai (????) > 4 are called vari (???) > 2 are called kuravai (?????) > 2 are called m?lai (????) > 1 is called p??al (?????) > > On page 864 of the Madras Tamil Lexicon, you can read the following > > ????? (p. 864) k?tai ????? k?tai , n. < g?th?. 1. Poem; ??????. (???.) 2. > Division of a poem containing a narrative; ???????????? ?????. (?????. ???. > 63, ???.) > > In a similar manner, > the 30 cantos of the Ma?im?kalai (????????) are all called k?tai (????) > > I hope this is useful > > Meilleurs voeux > > -- Jean-Luc > > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > > > > On 19/09/2019 00:41, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear friends, > > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner > in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, > and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza ?and NIA verse. > I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features > including meter, rhyme etc. > > with thanks in advance, > Matthew > > Get Outlook for iOS > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options > or unsubscribe) > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:35:19 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:35:19 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? In-Reply-To: <0C631F2C-AC32-43EA-B2A7-A4F324FEE5F2@bl.uk> Message-ID: <01FE4C78-6FED-4FD9-A4E9-A11322C4C53A@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 19.09.2019 um 11:12 schrieb Quessel, Burkhard via INDOLOGY : > for what is worth, I am happily using the hinglish keyboard on the ipad for Indian diacritics ?plus a few added characters via text replacements in settings: > e.g. the ?m? offered by the hinglish keyboard under m can be replaced with ?? > and other rext replacements can be defined when necessary > > best, > Burkhard > > Sent from my iPad > > On 19 Sep 2019, at 09:55, James Hartzell via INDOLOGY wrote: > > Thanks Jan very much--this looks promising and I will try to test it out soon. > > FYI I received this reply from one of the Ukelele development team members about the possibility of setting something up in Ukelele use Sanskrit-relevant diacritics in MS Word on the Ipad with Apple's smart keyboard: > "Sorry, but that's not possible. The iPad has a different keyboard > processing system to the Mac, so Mac keyboard layouts won't work with > iOS devices. As far as I know, you are limited to the keyboard layouts > available in the App Store. Keyman offers the widest variety, I think, > but developing a new keyboard is only possible with Keyman Developer, > which is Windows-only. But you might find what you need already out there." > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 2:32 PM wrote: > Hello, > > I have underestimated the submission process length, but in case you cannot > use keyboard or install software, I have made a simple online add-in for > Word/PowerPoint that you can use to enter the diacritics (unless your > organization disabled using Office add-ins). > > Windows and Mac: Go to Insert tab > Get Add-Ins and search for Indic > Online in browser: Go to Insert tab > Add-ins > Store and search for Indic > iPad: In landscape mode, go to Insert tab > Add-ins > All > search for Indic > > Add the add-in and you should get a taskpane with character buttons, see > http://apps.ujca.cz/IndicInputWebPane/ for a screenshot. > > It's not a great typing experience but better than nothing. > > Hope this helps, > Jan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: INDOLOGY On Behalf Of James > Hartzell via INDOLOGY > Sent: ?ter? 13. srpna 2019 7:41 > To: indology at list.indology.info > Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? > > Hello > > Has anyone found a way to type Sanskrit diacritics in MS-Word on the Ipad? > > So far my attempts have been fruitless. > > Cheers > James > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > > -- > James Hartzell, PhD > Basque Center on Cognition, Brain and Language (BCBL), Donostia, Spain > Center for Mind/Brain Sciences (CIMeC), The University of Trento, Italy > Center for Buddhist Studies, Columbia University, USA > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > ? > ****************************************************************************************************************** > Experience the British Library online at www.bl.uk > > The British Library?s latest Annual Report and Accounts : www.bl.uk/aboutus/annrep/index.html > > Help the British Library conserve the world's knowledge. Adopt a Book. www.bl.uk/adoptabook > > The Library's St Pancras site is WiFi - enabled > > ***************************************************************************************************************** > > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the postmaster at bl.uk : The contents of this e-mail must not be disclosed or copied without the sender's consent. > > The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the British Library. The British Library does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. > > ***************************************************************************************************************** > Think before you print > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:38:10 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:38:10 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: <76A81B73-7AD5-46D2-8B51-6C40C2112B85@fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: <0CC648CA-342F-45B2-A5DF-9DB227860651@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:31 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 12:11 schrieb Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY : > > > Dear friends, > > Thanks to all who responded to my query on gAthA and dohA. I am sorry that I did not make clear that I have very complete material on the Buddhist dohA traditions and so did not need to bother you about that. Also, though the Tamil information is of course quite interesting, it is, I regret to say, outside of my domain. > > In all events, the references I have received from you promise a good start. > Thanks as always, > > Matthew > > Matthew Kapstein > Directeur d'?tudes, > Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes > > Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, > The University of Chicago > > From: INDOLOGY on behalf of Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 5:04 AM > To: indology at list.indology.info > Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms > ? > Cher Herman, > > in order to decrease your amount of "na?vet?", you might want to read > the 1977 book written by ?. ??. ???????? (Na. V?. Ceyar?man) > for which the title is: > > ??????????? ????????? ?[Cilappatik?ra Y?ppamaiti] > [[Prosody in Silappathikaram]] > > Annamalai University publication > > This 516 pages book is the published version of a Ph.D. thesis > > I have a Xerox copy of this book thanks to a common friend of ours, who > is also a member of this list. > > Meilleur souvenir > > -- Jean-Luc > > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > > > > On 19/09/2019 11:26, Tieken, H.J.H. wrote: > In my naivety I have always assumed that k?tai (from Skt g?th?) in the titles of the Cilappatik?ram is a translation of Tamil p???u, "song", as in Pattupp???u, which latter collection is made up of "long" poems like the Cilappatik?ram chapters and as such differs from, for instance, the Ku?untokai. > Herman > > Herman Tieken > Stationsweg 58 > 2515 BP Den Haag > The Netherlands > 00 31 (0)70 2208127 > website: hermantieken.com > > ________________________________________ > Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info] > Verzonden: donderdag 19 september 2019 10:18 > Aan: indology at list.indology.info > Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms > > Oops ... > > I now see that I should have written > > among the 30 > cantos of the CILAPPATIK?RAM (?????????????) > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silappatikaram > > -- jl > > On 19/09/2019 10:08, Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY wrote: > Cher Matthew, > > For the record, you might be interested to know that, among the 30 > cantos of the ????????????? > > 21 are called k?tai (????) > 4 are called vari (???) > 2 are called kuravai (?????) > 2 are called m?lai (????) > 1 is called p??al (?????) > > On page 864 of the Madras Tamil Lexicon, you can read the following > > ????? (p. 864) k?tai ????? k?tai , n. < g?th?. 1. Poem; ??????. (???.) 2. > Division of a poem containing a narrative; ???????????? ?????. (?????. ???. > 63, ???.) > > In a similar manner, > the 30 cantos of the Ma?im?kalai (????????) are all called k?tai (????) > > I hope this is useful > > Meilleurs voeux > > -- Jean-Luc > > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > > > > On 19/09/2019 00:41, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear friends, > > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner > in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, > and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza? and NIA verse. > I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features > including meter, rhyme etc. > > with thanks in advance, > Matthew > > Get Outlook for iOS > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options > or unsubscribe) > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:38:07 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:38:07 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: <01E7B8A3-DCF5-498F-8966-5034B33991B1@fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: <4EC69BA3-3B0B-4A3C-AB2C-ECA12B31B784@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:31 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 10:03 schrieb Nagaraj Paturi via INDOLOGY : > > In view of Gatha-Arya connection , > > The origins of the??ry??metre > by > Prof. K.R. Norman? > > https://www.ancient-buddhist-texts.net/Textual-Studies/Prosody-Articles/Norman-Arya.htm? > > may be useful.?? > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 1:30 PM Nagaraj Paturi wrote: > Sharing a snapshot of a page from a book? > > The Sants : Studies in a Devotional Tradition of India by W H McLeod > > In the footnotes it has a few references that may be useful > > The page is?here.? > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:15 PM Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY wrote: > For the doh?, see M. Shahidullah, Les chants mystiques de K??ha et de Saraha, pp. 60-66. > Though occasionally rhyme may be found in other, earlier, texts (I remember having read something somewhere about these "predecessors, written by D. Goodall) it has become a systematic feature of Apabhra??a texts (folk songs). > L. Alsdorf, Apabhra??a-Studien. AKM XXII 2, pp. 39-56. > > Herman > > Herman Tieken > Stationsweg 58 > 2515 BP Den Haag > The Netherlands > 00 31 (0)70 2208127 > website: hermantieken.com > > Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info] > Verzonden: donderdag 19 september 2019 0:41 > Aan: indology at list.indology.info > Onderwerp: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms > > > Dear friends, > > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza ?and NIA verse. I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features including meter, rhyme etc.? > > with thanks in advance, > Matthew? > > Get Outlook for iOS > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > ? > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > Director,? Inter-Gurukula-University Centre , Indic Academy > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala > BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies,? > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of??Liberal Education,? > (Pune, Maharashtra,?INDIA?) > ? > ? > ? > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > ? > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > Director,? Inter-Gurukula-University Centre , Indic Academy > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala > BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies,? > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of??Liberal Education,? > (Pune, Maharashtra,?INDIA?) > ? > ? > ? > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:38:11 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:38:11 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <93B0A26C-E214-4172-8852-F4101369D1DE@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:32 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 10:54 schrieb James Hartzell via INDOLOGY : > > Thanks Jan very much--this looks promising and I will try to test it out soon. > > FYI I received this reply from one of the Ukelele development team members about the possibility of setting something up in Ukelele use Sanskrit-relevant diacritics in MS Word on the Ipad with Apple's smart keyboard: > "Sorry, but that's not possible. The iPad has a different keyboard > processing system to the Mac, so Mac keyboard layouts won't work with > iOS devices. As far as I know, you are limited to the keyboard layouts > available in the App Store. Keyman offers the widest variety, I think, > but developing a new keyboard is only possible with Keyman Developer, > which is Windows-only. But you might find what you need already out there." > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 2:32 PM wrote: > Hello, > > I have underestimated the submission process length, but in case you cannot > use keyboard or install software, I have made a simple online add-in for > Word/PowerPoint that you can use to enter the diacritics (unless your > organization disabled using Office add-ins). > > Windows and Mac: Go to Insert tab > Get Add-Ins and search for Indic > Online in browser: Go to Insert tab > Add-ins > Store and search for Indic > iPad: In landscape mode, go to Insert tab > Add-ins > All > search for Indic > > Add the add-in and you should get a taskpane with character buttons, see > http://apps.ujca.cz/IndicInputWebPane/ for a screenshot. > > It's not a great typing experience but better than nothing. > > Hope this helps, > Jan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: INDOLOGY On Behalf Of James > Hartzell via INDOLOGY > Sent: ?ter? 13. srpna 2019 7:41 > To: indology at list.indology.info > Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? > > Hello > > Has anyone found a way to type Sanskrit diacritics in MS-Word on the Ipad? > > So far my attempts have been fruitless. > > Cheers > James > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > > -- > James Hartzell, PhD > Basque Center on Cognition, Brain and Language (BCBL), Donostia, Spain > Center for Mind/Brain Sciences (CIMeC), The University of Trento, Italy > Center for Buddhist Studies, Columbia University, USA > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:38:21 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:38:21 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Bhamati-text with Hindi translation In-Reply-To: <7CBAD4BB-63B4-435D-BC79-377BBADDB7D5@fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: <5EDB3814-A1CC-4C2F-8FDD-EAA95AB9886C@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:32 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 18:43 schrieb Elliot Stern via INDOLOGY : > > Part 1 of a Hindi translation is available at archive.org: > > https://archive.org/details/BrahmaSutraShankaraBhashyaBhamatiVachaspatiBhamatiHindiVyakhyaSwamiYogindranandPart1Chowkambha_201806/page/n21 > > > > On Sep 23, 2019, at 9:09 AM, alakendu das via INDOLOGY wrote: > To all, Can anybody kindly let me know any version of Bachaspati Misra's "Bhamati' with Hindi translation. > Alakendu Das > > > > Sent from RediffmailNG on Android > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > Elliot M. Stern > 552 South 48th Street > Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029 > emstern1948 at gmail.com > 267-240-8418 > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:38:31 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:38:31 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <61ACF2B0-514E-41D9-A324-BC380E003FDE@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:32 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 11:26 schrieb Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY : > > In my naivety I have always assumed that k?tai (from Skt g?th?) in the titles of the Cilappatik?ram is a translation of Tamil p???u, "song", as in Pattupp???u, which latter collection is made up of "long" poems like the Cilappatik?ram chapters and as such differs from, for instance, the Ku?untokai. > Herman > > Herman Tieken > Stationsweg 58 > 2515 BP Den Haag > The Netherlands > 00 31 (0)70 2208127 > website: hermantieken.com > > ________________________________________ > Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info] > Verzonden: donderdag 19 september 2019 10:18 > Aan: indology at list.indology.info > Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms > > Oops ... > > I now see that I should have written > > among the 30 > cantos of the CILAPPATIK?RAM (?????????????) > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silappatikaram > > -- jl > > On 19/09/2019 10:08, Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY wrote: > Cher Matthew, > > For the record, you might be interested to know that, among the 30 > cantos of the ????????????? > > 21 are called k?tai (????) > 4 are called vari (???) > 2 are called kuravai (?????) > 2 are called m?lai (????) > 1 is called p??al (?????) > > On page 864 of the Madras Tamil Lexicon, you can read the following > > ????? (p. 864) k?tai ????? k?tai , n. < g?th?. 1. Poem; ??????. (???.) 2. > Division of a poem containing a narrative; ???????????? ?????. (?????. ???. > 63, ???.) > > In a similar manner, > the 30 cantos of the Ma?im?kalai (????????) are all called k?tai (????) > > I hope this is useful > > Meilleurs voeux > > -- Jean-Luc > > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > > > > On 19/09/2019 00:41, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear friends, > > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner > in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, > and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza ?and NIA verse. > I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features > including meter, rhyme etc. > > with thanks in advance, > Matthew > > Get Outlook for iOS > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options > or unsubscribe) > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:38:41 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:38:41 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <7709F810-2781-41AA-9C02-736C1A31F244@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:33 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 10:08 schrieb Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY : > > Cher Matthew, > > For the record, you might be interested to know that, among the 30 cantos of the ????????????? > > 21 are called k?tai (????) > 4 are called vari (???) > 2 are called kuravai (?????) > 2 are called m?lai (????) > 1 is called p??al (?????) > > On page 864 of the Madras Tamil Lexicon, you can read the following > > ????? (p. 864) k?tai ????? k?tai , n. < g?th?. 1. Poem; ??????. (???.) 2. Division of a poem containing a narrative; ???????????? ?????. (?????. ???. 63, ???.) > > In a similar manner, > the 30 cantos of the Ma?im?kalai (????????) are all called k?tai (????) > > I hope this is useful > > Meilleurs voeux > > -- Jean-Luc > > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > > > > On 19/09/2019 00:41, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear friends, > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza ?and NIA verse. I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features including meter, rhyme etc. > with thanks in advance, > Matthew > Get Outlook for iOS > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:38:51 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:38:51 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Source of verse In-Reply-To: <2A9EBDD5-FF2E-4FB2-8149-400C80231861@fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:33 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 00:07 schrieb Harry Spier via INDOLOGY : > > Thank you for this Madhav. > Harry > > On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 7:26 PM Madhav Deshpande wrote: > Hi Harry, > > ? ? ?One of the discussions on FaceBook quotes this verse as Hanum?n's response to R?ma in the Adhy?tma-R?m?ya?a.? Here is the discussion: > > ???????????????? ???? ?????? ?? > ????????-?????? ??? ????????? ?? ?? ??????? ?? ?? ??????? ?? ???????????? ?? ?????????????? ?? ????? ???? ?? | ?????????? ?? ?????? ?????????????????? ???? ????? ????????? ?? ? ?????? ??????? ?? ??????? ?? ?? ??? ?? ??, ?????? ?? ????? ???? ??? ? > ???????????? ?? ??????? ??????????? ???????: | > ?????????? ???????????? ?? ???????? ???: ||? > > > I don't have any verse index to Adhy?tma-R?m?ya?a, or a searchable text.? Hopefully, you can find this verse there.? Best, > > > Madhav M. Deshpande > Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics > University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies > > [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] > > > On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 2:47 PM Harry Spier via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear list members, > > Does anyone know the source of this verse: > ?dehad???y? tu d?so'ha? j?vad???y? tvada??aka? | > ?tmad???y? tvamev?ham iti me ni?cit? mati? || > Thanks, > Harry Spier > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:38:59 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:38:59 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: <64C54D10-FE84-4C3C-B5AD-2FC9D80F68CF@fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:33 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 10:18 schrieb Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY : > > Oops ... > > I now see that I should have written > > among the 30 > cantos of the CILAPPATIK?RAM (?????????????) > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silappatikaram > > -- jl > > On 19/09/2019 10:08, Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY wrote: > Cher Matthew, > For the record, you might be interested to know that, among the 30 cantos of the ????????????? > 21 are called k?tai (????) > 4 are called vari (???) > 2 are called kuravai (?????) > 2 are called m?lai (????) > 1 is called p??al (?????) > On page 864 of the Madras Tamil Lexicon, you can read the following > ????? (p. 864) k?tai ????? k?tai , n. < g?th?. 1. Poem; ??????. (???.) 2. Division of a poem containing a narrative; ???????????? ?????. (?????. ???. 63, ???.) > In a similar manner, > the 30 cantos of the Ma?im?kalai (????????) are all called k?tai (????) > I hope this is useful > Meilleurs voeux > -- Jean-Luc > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > On 19/09/2019 00:41, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear friends, > > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza ?and NIA verse. I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features including meter, rhyme etc. > > with thanks in advance, > Matthew > > Get Outlook for iOS > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:39:09 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:39:09 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? In-Reply-To: <5041157F-7481-41CB-B3B2-0EABE4C8F163@fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:33 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 11:44 schrieb James Hartzell via INDOLOGY : > > Thanks Burkhard--I will definitely test the Hinglish method as well. > Cheers > James > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 11:12 AM Quessel, Burkhard wrote: > for what is worth, I am happily using the hinglish keyboard on the ipad for Indian diacritics ?plus a few added characters via text replacements in settings: > e.g. the ?m? offered by the hinglish keyboard under m can be replaced with ?? > and other rext replacements can be defined when necessary > > best, > Burkhard > > Sent from my iPad > > On 19 Sep 2019, at 09:55, James Hartzell via INDOLOGY wrote: > > Thanks Jan very much--this looks promising and I will try to test it out soon. > > FYI I received this reply from one of the Ukelele development team members about the possibility of setting something up in Ukelele use Sanskrit-relevant diacritics in MS Word on the Ipad with Apple's smart keyboard: > "Sorry, but that's not possible. The iPad has a different keyboard > processing system to the Mac, so Mac keyboard layouts won't work with > iOS devices. As far as I know, you are limited to the keyboard layouts > available in the App Store. Keyman offers the widest variety, I think, > but developing a new keyboard is only possible with Keyman Developer, > which is Windows-only. But you might find what you need already out there." > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 2:32 PM wrote: > Hello, > > I have underestimated the submission process length, but in case you cannot > use keyboard or install software, I have made a simple online add-in for > Word/PowerPoint that you can use to enter the diacritics (unless your > organization disabled using Office add-ins). > > Windows and Mac: Go to Insert tab > Get Add-Ins and search for Indic > Online in browser: Go to Insert tab > Add-ins > Store and search for Indic > iPad: In landscape mode, go to Insert tab > Add-ins > All > search for Indic > > Add the add-in and you should get a taskpane with character buttons, see > http://apps.ujca.cz/IndicInputWebPane/ for a screenshot. > > It's not a great typing experience but better than nothing. > > Hope this helps, > Jan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: INDOLOGY On Behalf Of James > Hartzell via INDOLOGY > Sent: ?ter? 13. srpna 2019 7:41 > To: indology at list.indology.info > Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? > > Hello > > Has anyone found a way to type Sanskrit diacritics in MS-Word on the Ipad? > > So far my attempts have been fruitless. > > Cheers > James > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > > -- > James Hartzell, PhD > Basque Center on Cognition, Brain and Language (BCBL), Donostia, Spain > Center for Mind/Brain Sciences (CIMeC), The University of Trento, Italy > Center for Buddhist Studies, Columbia University, USA > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > ? > ****************************************************************************************************************** > Experience the British Library online at www.bl.uk > > The British Library?s latest Annual Report and Accounts : www.bl.uk/aboutus/annrep/index.html > > Help the British Library conserve the world's knowledge. 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The British Library does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. > > ***************************************************************************************************************** > Think before you print > > > -- > James Hartzell, PhD > Basque Center on Cognition, Brain and Language (BCBL), Donostia, Spain > Center for Mind/Brain Sciences (CIMeC), The University of Trento, Italy > Center for Buddhist Studies, Columbia University, USA > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:39:29 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:39:29 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5CCB96E4-2E8A-4F3F-B569-7F68B9BFA13B@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:34 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 10:00 schrieb Nagaraj Paturi via INDOLOGY : > > Sharing a snapshot of a page from a book? > > The Sants : Studies in a Devotional Tradition of India by W H McLeod > > In the footnotes it has a few references that may be useful > > The page is?here.? > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:15 PM Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY wrote: > For the doh?, see M. Shahidullah, Les chants mystiques de K??ha et de Saraha, pp. 60-66. > Though occasionally rhyme may be found in other, earlier, texts (I remember having read something somewhere about these "predecessors, written by D. Goodall) it has become a systematic feature of Apabhra??a texts (folk songs). > L. Alsdorf, Apabhra??a-Studien. AKM XXII 2, pp. 39-56. > > Herman > > Herman Tieken > Stationsweg 58 > 2515 BP Den Haag > The Netherlands > 00 31 (0)70 2208127 > website: hermantieken.com > > Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info] > Verzonden: donderdag 19 september 2019 0:41 > Aan: indology at list.indology.info > Onderwerp: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms > > > Dear friends, > > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza ?and NIA verse. I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features including meter, rhyme etc.? > > with thanks in advance, > Matthew? > > Get Outlook for iOS > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > ? > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > Director,? Inter-Gurukula-University Centre , Indic Academy > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala > BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies,? > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of??Liberal Education,? > (Pune, Maharashtra,?INDIA?) > ? > ? > ? > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:39:35 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:39:35 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] [Dis]continuing my Krishna verses In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9895F4F3-A81A-41FC-8392-9B4B75F76F43@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:34 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 15:19 schrieb Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY : > > Dear Friends, > > ? ? ?When I started writing my Krishna verses, I had no idea that this would become such a long time pre-occupation.? I have now decided that I will no longer continue to send these verses daily to Indology.? If you are still interested in reading them, you can read them either on my FaceBook page, or let me know privately so that I can form a small group of interested readers.? In a not too?distant future, these verses will appear in a book form.? With best wishes, > > Madhav M. Deshpande > Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics > University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies > > [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:39:41 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:39:41 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:34 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 12:04 schrieb Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY : > > Cher Herman, > > in order to decrease your amount of "na?vet?", you might want to read the 1977 book written by ?. ??. ???????? (Na. V?. Ceyar?man) > for which the title is: > > ??????????? ????????? ?[Cilappatik?ra Y?ppamaiti] > [[Prosody in Silappathikaram]] > > Annamalai University publication > > This 516 pages book is the published version of a Ph.D. thesis > > I have a Xerox copy of this book thanks to a common friend of ours, who is also a member of this list. > > Meilleur souvenir > > -- Jean-Luc > > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > > > > On 19/09/2019 11:26, Tieken, H.J.H. wrote: > In my naivety I have always assumed that k?tai (from Skt g?th?) in the titles of the Cilappatik?ram is a translation of Tamil p???u, "song", as in Pattupp???u, which latter collection is made up of "long" poems like the Cilappatik?ram chapters and as such differs from, for instance, the Ku?untokai. > Herman > Herman Tieken > Stationsweg 58 > 2515 BP Den Haag > The Netherlands > 00 31 (0)70 2208127 > website: hermantieken.com > ________________________________________ > Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info] > Verzonden: donderdag 19 september 2019 10:18 > Aan: indology at list.indology.info > Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms > Oops ... > I now see that I should have written > among the 30 > cantos of the CILAPPATIK?RAM (?????????????) > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silappatikaram > -- jl > On 19/09/2019 10:08, Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY wrote: > Cher Matthew, > > For the record, you might be interested to know that, among the 30 > cantos of the ????????????? > > 21 are called k?tai (????) > 4 are called vari (???) > 2 are called kuravai (?????) > 2 are called m?lai (????) > 1 is called p??al (?????) > > On page 864 of the Madras Tamil Lexicon, you can read the following > > ????? (p. 864) k?tai ????? k?tai , n. < g?th?. 1. Poem; ??????. (???.) 2. > Division of a poem containing a narrative; ???????????? ?????. (?????. ???. > 63, ???.) > > In a similar manner, > the 30 cantos of the Ma?im?kalai (????????) are all called k?tai (????) > > I hope this is useful > > Meilleurs voeux > > -- Jean-Luc > > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > > > > On 19/09/2019 00:41, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear friends, > > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner > in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, > and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza ?and NIA verse. > I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features > including meter, rhyme etc. > > with thanks in advance, > Matthew > > Get Outlook for iOS > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options > or unsubscribe) > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:39:46 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:39:46 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? In-Reply-To: <01FE4C78-6FED-4FD9-A4E9-A11322C4C53A@fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:35 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 11:12 schrieb Quessel, Burkhard via INDOLOGY : > > for what is worth, I am happily using the hinglish keyboard on the ipad for Indian diacritics ?plus a few added characters via text replacements in settings: > e.g. the ?m? offered by the hinglish keyboard under m can be replaced with ?? > and other rext replacements can be defined when necessary > > best, > Burkhard > > Sent from my iPad > > On 19 Sep 2019, at 09:55, James Hartzell via INDOLOGY wrote: > > Thanks Jan very much--this looks promising and I will try to test it out soon. > > FYI I received this reply from one of the Ukelele development team members about the possibility of setting something up in Ukelele use Sanskrit-relevant diacritics in MS Word on the Ipad with Apple's smart keyboard: > "Sorry, but that's not possible. The iPad has a different keyboard > processing system to the Mac, so Mac keyboard layouts won't work with > iOS devices. As far as I know, you are limited to the keyboard layouts > available in the App Store. Keyman offers the widest variety, I think, > but developing a new keyboard is only possible with Keyman Developer, > which is Windows-only. But you might find what you need already out there." > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 2:32 PM wrote: > Hello, > > I have underestimated the submission process length, but in case you cannot > use keyboard or install software, I have made a simple online add-in for > Word/PowerPoint that you can use to enter the diacritics (unless your > organization disabled using Office add-ins). > > Windows and Mac: Go to Insert tab > Get Add-Ins and search for Indic > Online in browser: Go to Insert tab > Add-ins > Store and search for Indic > iPad: In landscape mode, go to Insert tab > Add-ins > All > search for Indic > > Add the add-in and you should get a taskpane with character buttons, see > http://apps.ujca.cz/IndicInputWebPane/ for a screenshot. > > It's not a great typing experience but better than nothing. > > Hope this helps, > Jan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: INDOLOGY On Behalf Of James > Hartzell via INDOLOGY > Sent: ?ter? 13. srpna 2019 7:41 > To: indology at list.indology.info > Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? > > Hello > > Has anyone found a way to type Sanskrit diacritics in MS-Word on the Ipad? > > So far my attempts have been fruitless. > > Cheers > James > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > > -- > James Hartzell, PhD > Basque Center on Cognition, Brain and Language (BCBL), Donostia, Spain > Center for Mind/Brain Sciences (CIMeC), The University of Trento, Italy > Center for Buddhist Studies, Columbia University, USA > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > ? > ****************************************************************************************************************** > Experience the British Library online at www.bl.uk > > The British Library?s latest Annual Report and Accounts : www.bl.uk/aboutus/annrep/index.html > > Help the British Library conserve the world's knowledge. 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The British Library does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. > > ***************************************************************************************************************** > Think before you print > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:40:19 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:40:19 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: <7709F810-2781-41AA-9C02-736C1A31F244@fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: <42D7851C-8D5A-47A9-98B4-2DBC293410F9@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:38 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:33 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 10:08 schrieb Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY : > > Cher Matthew, > > For the record, you might be interested to know that, among the 30 cantos of the ????????????? > > 21 are called k?tai (????) > 4 are called vari (???) > 2 are called kuravai (?????) > 2 are called m?lai (????) > 1 is called p??al (?????) > > On page 864 of the Madras Tamil Lexicon, you can read the following > > ????? (p. 864) k?tai ????? k?tai , n. < g?th?. 1. Poem; ??????. (???.) 2. Division of a poem containing a narrative; ???????????? ?????. (?????. ???. 63, ???.) > > In a similar manner, > the 30 cantos of the Ma?im?kalai (????????) are all called k?tai (????) > > I hope this is useful > > Meilleurs voeux > > -- Jean-Luc > > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > > > > On 19/09/2019 00:41, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear friends, > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza ?and NIA verse. I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features including meter, rhyme etc. > with thanks in advance, > Matthew > Get Outlook for iOS > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:40:24 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:40:24 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Source of verse In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2A97CB5C-6F5D-415D-9111-B147FD9B1EF2@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:38 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:33 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 00:07 schrieb Harry Spier via INDOLOGY : > > Thank you for this Madhav. > Harry > > On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 7:26 PM Madhav Deshpande wrote: > Hi Harry, > > ? ? ?One of the discussions on FaceBook quotes this verse as Hanum?n's response to R?ma in the Adhy?tma-R?m?ya?a.? Here is the discussion: > > ???????????????? ???? ?????? ?? > ????????-?????? ??? ????????? ?? ?? ??????? ?? ?? ??????? ?? ???????????? ?? ?????????????? ?? ????? ???? ?? | ?????????? ?? ?????? ?????????????????? ???? ????? ????????? ?? ? ?????? ??????? ?? ??????? ?? ?? ??? ?? ??, ?????? ?? ????? ???? ??? ? > ???????????? ?? ??????? ??????????? ???????: | > ?????????? ???????????? ?? ???????? ???: ||? > > > I don't have any verse index to Adhy?tma-R?m?ya?a, or a searchable text.? Hopefully, you can find this verse there.? Best, > > > Madhav M. Deshpande > Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics > University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies > > [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] > > > On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 2:47 PM Harry Spier via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear list members, > > Does anyone know the source of this verse: > ?dehad???y? tu d?so'ha? j?vad???y? tvada??aka? | > ?tmad???y? tvamev?ham iti me ni?cit? mati? || > Thanks, > Harry Spier > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:40:25 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:40:25 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <47B4D09F-3340-4D50-B0CA-AB0B31CF9BC8@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:38 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:33 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 10:18 schrieb Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY : > > Oops ... > > I now see that I should have written > > among the 30 > cantos of the CILAPPATIK?RAM (?????????????) > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silappatikaram > > -- jl > > On 19/09/2019 10:08, Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY wrote: > Cher Matthew, > For the record, you might be interested to know that, among the 30 cantos of the ????????????? > 21 are called k?tai (????) > 4 are called vari (???) > 2 are called kuravai (?????) > 2 are called m?lai (????) > 1 is called p??al (?????) > On page 864 of the Madras Tamil Lexicon, you can read the following > ????? (p. 864) k?tai ????? k?tai , n. < g?th?. 1. Poem; ??????. (???.) 2. Division of a poem containing a narrative; ???????????? ?????. (?????. ???. 63, ???.) > In a similar manner, > the 30 cantos of the Ma?im?kalai (????????) are all called k?tai (????) > I hope this is useful > Meilleurs voeux > -- Jean-Luc > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > On 19/09/2019 00:41, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear friends, > > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza ?and NIA verse. I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features including meter, rhyme etc. > > with thanks in advance, > Matthew > > Get Outlook for iOS > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:40:28 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:40:28 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <861B52E7-7F19-432B-9B33-34C7248587AD@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:39 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:33 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 11:44 schrieb James Hartzell via INDOLOGY : > > Thanks Burkhard--I will definitely test the Hinglish method as well. > Cheers > James > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 11:12 AM Quessel, Burkhard wrote: > for what is worth, I am happily using the hinglish keyboard on the ipad for Indian diacritics ?plus a few added characters via text replacements in settings: > e.g. the ?m? offered by the hinglish keyboard under m can be replaced with ?? > and other rext replacements can be defined when necessary > > best, > Burkhard > > Sent from my iPad > > On 19 Sep 2019, at 09:55, James Hartzell via INDOLOGY wrote: > > Thanks Jan very much--this looks promising and I will try to test it out soon. > > FYI I received this reply from one of the Ukelele development team members about the possibility of setting something up in Ukelele use Sanskrit-relevant diacritics in MS Word on the Ipad with Apple's smart keyboard: > "Sorry, but that's not possible. The iPad has a different keyboard > processing system to the Mac, so Mac keyboard layouts won't work with > iOS devices. As far as I know, you are limited to the keyboard layouts > available in the App Store. Keyman offers the widest variety, I think, > but developing a new keyboard is only possible with Keyman Developer, > which is Windows-only. But you might find what you need already out there." > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 2:32 PM wrote: > Hello, > > I have underestimated the submission process length, but in case you cannot > use keyboard or install software, I have made a simple online add-in for > Word/PowerPoint that you can use to enter the diacritics (unless your > organization disabled using Office add-ins). > > Windows and Mac: Go to Insert tab > Get Add-Ins and search for Indic > Online in browser: Go to Insert tab > Add-ins > Store and search for Indic > iPad: In landscape mode, go to Insert tab > Add-ins > All > search for Indic > > Add the add-in and you should get a taskpane with character buttons, see > http://apps.ujca.cz/IndicInputWebPane/ for a screenshot. > > It's not a great typing experience but better than nothing. > > Hope this helps, > Jan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: INDOLOGY On Behalf Of James > Hartzell via INDOLOGY > Sent: ?ter? 13. srpna 2019 7:41 > To: indology at list.indology.info > Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? > > Hello > > Has anyone found a way to type Sanskrit diacritics in MS-Word on the Ipad? > > So far my attempts have been fruitless. > > Cheers > James > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > > -- > James Hartzell, PhD > Basque Center on Cognition, Brain and Language (BCBL), Donostia, Spain > Center for Mind/Brain Sciences (CIMeC), The University of Trento, Italy > Center for Buddhist Studies, Columbia University, USA > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > ? > ****************************************************************************************************************** > Experience the British Library online at www.bl.uk > > The British Library?s latest Annual Report and Accounts : www.bl.uk/aboutus/annrep/index.html > > Help the British Library conserve the world's knowledge. 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The British Library does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. > > ***************************************************************************************************************** > Think before you print > > > -- > James Hartzell, PhD > Basque Center on Cognition, Brain and Language (BCBL), Donostia, Spain > Center for Mind/Brain Sciences (CIMeC), The University of Trento, Italy > Center for Buddhist Studies, Columbia University, USA > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:40:31 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:40:31 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: <4EC69BA3-3B0B-4A3C-AB2C-ECA12B31B784@fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:38 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:31 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 10:03 schrieb Nagaraj Paturi via INDOLOGY : > > In view of Gatha-Arya connection , > > The origins of the??ry??metre > by > Prof. K.R. Norman? > > https://www.ancient-buddhist-texts.net/Textual-Studies/Prosody-Articles/Norman-Arya.htm? > > may be useful.?? > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 1:30 PM Nagaraj Paturi wrote: > Sharing a snapshot of a page from a book? > > The Sants : Studies in a Devotional Tradition of India by W H McLeod > > In the footnotes it has a few references that may be useful > > The page is?here.? > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:15 PM Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY wrote: > For the doh?, see M. Shahidullah, Les chants mystiques de K??ha et de Saraha, pp. 60-66. > Though occasionally rhyme may be found in other, earlier, texts (I remember having read something somewhere about these "predecessors, written by D. Goodall) it has become a systematic feature of Apabhra??a texts (folk songs). > L. Alsdorf, Apabhra??a-Studien. AKM XXII 2, pp. 39-56. > > Herman > > Herman Tieken > Stationsweg 58 > 2515 BP Den Haag > The Netherlands > 00 31 (0)70 2208127 > website: hermantieken.com > > Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info] > Verzonden: donderdag 19 september 2019 0:41 > Aan: indology at list.indology.info > Onderwerp: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms > > > Dear friends, > > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza ?and NIA verse. I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features including meter, rhyme etc.? > > with thanks in advance, > Matthew? > > Get Outlook for iOS > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > ? > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > Director,? Inter-Gurukula-University Centre , Indic Academy > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala > BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies,? > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of??Liberal Education,? > (Pune, Maharashtra,?INDIA?) > ? > ? > ? > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > ? > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > Director,? Inter-Gurukula-University Centre , Indic Academy > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala > BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies,? > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of??Liberal Education,? > (Pune, Maharashtra,?INDIA?) > ? > ? > ? > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:40:38 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:40:38 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? In-Reply-To: <93B0A26C-E214-4172-8852-F4101369D1DE@fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:38 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:32 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 10:54 schrieb James Hartzell via INDOLOGY : > > Thanks Jan very much--this looks promising and I will try to test it out soon. > > FYI I received this reply from one of the Ukelele development team members about the possibility of setting something up in Ukelele use Sanskrit-relevant diacritics in MS Word on the Ipad with Apple's smart keyboard: > "Sorry, but that's not possible. The iPad has a different keyboard > processing system to the Mac, so Mac keyboard layouts won't work with > iOS devices. As far as I know, you are limited to the keyboard layouts > available in the App Store. Keyman offers the widest variety, I think, > but developing a new keyboard is only possible with Keyman Developer, > which is Windows-only. But you might find what you need already out there." > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 2:32 PM wrote: > Hello, > > I have underestimated the submission process length, but in case you cannot > use keyboard or install software, I have made a simple online add-in for > Word/PowerPoint that you can use to enter the diacritics (unless your > organization disabled using Office add-ins). > > Windows and Mac: Go to Insert tab > Get Add-Ins and search for Indic > Online in browser: Go to Insert tab > Add-ins > Store and search for Indic > iPad: In landscape mode, go to Insert tab > Add-ins > All > search for Indic > > Add the add-in and you should get a taskpane with character buttons, see > http://apps.ujca.cz/IndicInputWebPane/ for a screenshot. > > It's not a great typing experience but better than nothing. > > Hope this helps, > Jan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: INDOLOGY On Behalf Of James > Hartzell via INDOLOGY > Sent: ?ter? 13. srpna 2019 7:41 > To: indology at list.indology.info > Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? > > Hello > > Has anyone found a way to type Sanskrit diacritics in MS-Word on the Ipad? > > So far my attempts have been fruitless. > > Cheers > James > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > > -- > James Hartzell, PhD > Basque Center on Cognition, Brain and Language (BCBL), Donostia, Spain > Center for Mind/Brain Sciences (CIMeC), The University of Trento, Italy > Center for Buddhist Studies, Columbia University, USA > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:40:45 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:40:45 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: <61ACF2B0-514E-41D9-A324-BC380E003FDE@fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: <4658F08E-DC51-4844-9E76-14A15188F36D@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:38 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:32 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 11:26 schrieb Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY : > > In my naivety I have always assumed that k?tai (from Skt g?th?) in the titles of the Cilappatik?ram is a translation of Tamil p???u, "song", as in Pattupp???u, which latter collection is made up of "long" poems like the Cilappatik?ram chapters and as such differs from, for instance, the Ku?untokai. > Herman > > Herman Tieken > Stationsweg 58 > 2515 BP Den Haag > The Netherlands > 00 31 (0)70 2208127 > website: hermantieken.com > > ________________________________________ > Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info] > Verzonden: donderdag 19 september 2019 10:18 > Aan: indology at list.indology.info > Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms > > Oops ... > > I now see that I should have written > > among the 30 > cantos of the CILAPPATIK?RAM (?????????????) > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silappatikaram > > -- jl > > On 19/09/2019 10:08, Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY wrote: > Cher Matthew, > > For the record, you might be interested to know that, among the 30 > cantos of the ????????????? > > 21 are called k?tai (????) > 4 are called vari (???) > 2 are called kuravai (?????) > 2 are called m?lai (????) > 1 is called p??al (?????) > > On page 864 of the Madras Tamil Lexicon, you can read the following > > ????? (p. 864) k?tai ????? k?tai , n. < g?th?. 1. Poem; ??????. (???.) 2. > Division of a poem containing a narrative; ???????????? ?????. (?????. ???. > 63, ???.) > > In a similar manner, > the 30 cantos of the Ma?im?kalai (????????) are all called k?tai (????) > > I hope this is useful > > Meilleurs voeux > > -- Jean-Luc > > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > > > > On 19/09/2019 00:41, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear friends, > > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner > in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, > and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza ?and NIA verse. > I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features > including meter, rhyme etc. > > with thanks in advance, > Matthew > > Get Outlook for iOS > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options > or unsubscribe) > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:40:42 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:40:42 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Bhamati-text with Hindi translation In-Reply-To: <5EDB3814-A1CC-4C2F-8FDD-EAA95AB9886C@fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: <01D02EB5-0D5E-4EE4-9751-16F0201302BD@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:38 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:32 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 18:43 schrieb Elliot Stern via INDOLOGY : > > Part 1 of a Hindi translation is available at archive.org: > > https://archive.org/details/BrahmaSutraShankaraBhashyaBhamatiVachaspatiBhamatiHindiVyakhyaSwamiYogindranandPart1Chowkambha_201806/page/n21 > > > > On Sep 23, 2019, at 9:09 AM, alakendu das via INDOLOGY wrote: > To all, Can anybody kindly let me know any version of Bachaspati Misra's "Bhamati' with Hindi translation. > Alakendu Das > > > > Sent from RediffmailNG on Android > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > Elliot M. Stern > 552 South 48th Street > Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029 > emstern1948 at gmail.com > 267-240-8418 > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:40:35 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:40:35 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: <0CC648CA-342F-45B2-A5DF-9DB227860651@fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: <59B45C18-7D55-4B9C-802B-2CB7E12796EC@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:38 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:31 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 12:11 schrieb Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY : > > > Dear friends, > > Thanks to all who responded to my query on gAthA and dohA. I am sorry that I did not make clear that I have very complete material on the Buddhist dohA traditions and so did not need to bother you about that. Also, though the Tamil information is of course quite interesting, it is, I regret to say, outside of my domain. > > In all events, the references I have received from you promise a good start. > Thanks as always, > > Matthew > > Matthew Kapstein > Directeur d'?tudes, > Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes > > Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, > The University of Chicago > > From: INDOLOGY on behalf of Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 5:04 AM > To: indology at list.indology.info > Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms > ? > Cher Herman, > > in order to decrease your amount of "na?vet?", you might want to read > the 1977 book written by ?. ??. ???????? (Na. V?. Ceyar?man) > for which the title is: > > ??????????? ????????? ?[Cilappatik?ra Y?ppamaiti] > [[Prosody in Silappathikaram]] > > Annamalai University publication > > This 516 pages book is the published version of a Ph.D. thesis > > I have a Xerox copy of this book thanks to a common friend of ours, who > is also a member of this list. > > Meilleur souvenir > > -- Jean-Luc > > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > > > > On 19/09/2019 11:26, Tieken, H.J.H. wrote: > In my naivety I have always assumed that k?tai (from Skt g?th?) in the titles of the Cilappatik?ram is a translation of Tamil p???u, "song", as in Pattupp???u, which latter collection is made up of "long" poems like the Cilappatik?ram chapters and as such differs from, for instance, the Ku?untokai. > Herman > > Herman Tieken > Stationsweg 58 > 2515 BP Den Haag > The Netherlands > 00 31 (0)70 2208127 > website: hermantieken.com > > ________________________________________ > Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info] > Verzonden: donderdag 19 september 2019 10:18 > Aan: indology at list.indology.info > Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms > > Oops ... > > I now see that I should have written > > among the 30 > cantos of the CILAPPATIK?RAM (?????????????) > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silappatikaram > > -- jl > > On 19/09/2019 10:08, Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY wrote: > Cher Matthew, > > For the record, you might be interested to know that, among the 30 > cantos of the ????????????? > > 21 are called k?tai (????) > 4 are called vari (???) > 2 are called kuravai (?????) > 2 are called m?lai (????) > 1 is called p??al (?????) > > On page 864 of the Madras Tamil Lexicon, you can read the following > > ????? (p. 864) k?tai ????? k?tai , n. < g?th?. 1. Poem; ??????. (???.) 2. > Division of a poem containing a narrative; ???????????? ?????. (?????. ???. > 63, ???.) > > In a similar manner, > the 30 cantos of the Ma?im?kalai (????????) are all called k?tai (????) > > I hope this is useful > > Meilleurs voeux > > -- Jean-Luc > > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > > > > On 19/09/2019 00:41, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear friends, > > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner > in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, > and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza? and NIA verse. > I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features > including meter, rhyme etc. > > with thanks in advance, > Matthew > > Get Outlook for iOS > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options > or unsubscribe) > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:41:59 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:41:59 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Source of verse In-Reply-To: <2A97CB5C-6F5D-415D-9111-B147FD9B1EF2@fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:40 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:38 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:33 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 00:07 schrieb Harry Spier via INDOLOGY : > > Thank you for this Madhav. > Harry > > On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 7:26 PM Madhav Deshpande wrote: > Hi Harry, > > ? ? ?One of the discussions on FaceBook quotes this verse as Hanum?n's response to R?ma in the Adhy?tma-R?m?ya?a.? Here is the discussion: > > ???????????????? ???? ?????? ?? > ????????-?????? ??? ????????? ?? ?? ??????? ?? ?? ??????? ?? ???????????? ?? ?????????????? ?? ????? ???? ?? | ?????????? ?? ?????? ?????????????????? ???? ????? ????????? ?? ? ?????? ??????? ?? ??????? ?? ?? ??? ?? ??, ?????? ?? ????? ???? ??? ? > ???????????? ?? ??????? ??????????? ???????: | > ?????????? ???????????? ?? ???????? ???: ||? > > > I don't have any verse index to Adhy?tma-R?m?ya?a, or a searchable text.? Hopefully, you can find this verse there.? Best, > > > Madhav M. Deshpande > Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics > University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies > > [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] > > > On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 2:47 PM Harry Spier via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear list members, > > Does anyone know the source of this verse: > ?dehad???y? tu d?so'ha? j?vad???y? tvada??aka? | > ?tmad???y? tvamev?ham iti me ni?cit? mati? || > Thanks, > Harry Spier > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:41:15 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:41:15 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: <42D7851C-8D5A-47A9-98B4-2DBC293410F9@fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: <1DD7F168-2B57-4E60-AF6E-0EE594E208FA@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:40 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:38 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:33 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 10:08 schrieb Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY : > > Cher Matthew, > > For the record, you might be interested to know that, among the 30 cantos of the ????????????? > > 21 are called k?tai (????) > 4 are called vari (???) > 2 are called kuravai (?????) > 2 are called m?lai (????) > 1 is called p??al (?????) > > On page 864 of the Madras Tamil Lexicon, you can read the following > > ????? (p. 864) k?tai ????? k?tai , n. < g?th?. 1. Poem; ??????. (???.) 2. Division of a poem containing a narrative; ???????????? ?????. (?????. ???. 63, ???.) > > In a similar manner, > the 30 cantos of the Ma?im?kalai (????????) are all called k?tai (????) > > I hope this is useful > > Meilleurs voeux > > -- Jean-Luc > > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > > > > On 19/09/2019 00:41, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear friends, > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza ?and NIA verse. I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features including meter, rhyme etc. > with thanks in advance, > Matthew > Get Outlook for iOS > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:41:20 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:41:20 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] [Dis]continuing my Krishna verses In-Reply-To: <9895F4F3-A81A-41FC-8392-9B4B75F76F43@fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: <3B8446B9-6AF9-4A66-BD9C-C681BDC8F9B2@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:39 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:34 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 15:19 schrieb Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY : > > Dear Friends, > > ? ? ?When I started writing my Krishna verses, I had no idea that this would become such a long time pre-occupation.? I have now decided that I will no longer continue to send these verses daily to Indology.? If you are still interested in reading them, you can read them either on my FaceBook page, or let me know privately so that I can form a small group of interested readers.? In a not too?distant future, these verses will appear in a book form.? With best wishes, > > Madhav M. Deshpande > Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics > University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies > > [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:41:41 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:41:41 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <834B594F-FBD1-4BC2-A47F-7C01E6C3EB7F@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:39 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:34 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 12:04 schrieb Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY : > > Cher Herman, > > in order to decrease your amount of "na?vet?", you might want to read the 1977 book written by ?. ??. ???????? (Na. V?. Ceyar?man) > for which the title is: > > ??????????? ????????? ?[Cilappatik?ra Y?ppamaiti] > [[Prosody in Silappathikaram]] > > Annamalai University publication > > This 516 pages book is the published version of a Ph.D. thesis > > I have a Xerox copy of this book thanks to a common friend of ours, who is also a member of this list. > > Meilleur souvenir > > -- Jean-Luc > > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > > > > On 19/09/2019 11:26, Tieken, H.J.H. wrote: > In my naivety I have always assumed that k?tai (from Skt g?th?) in the titles of the Cilappatik?ram is a translation of Tamil p???u, "song", as in Pattupp???u, which latter collection is made up of "long" poems like the Cilappatik?ram chapters and as such differs from, for instance, the Ku?untokai. > Herman > Herman Tieken > Stationsweg 58 > 2515 BP Den Haag > The Netherlands > 00 31 (0)70 2208127 > website: hermantieken.com > ________________________________________ > Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info] > Verzonden: donderdag 19 september 2019 10:18 > Aan: indology at list.indology.info > Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms > Oops ... > I now see that I should have written > among the 30 > cantos of the CILAPPATIK?RAM (?????????????) > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silappatikaram > -- jl > On 19/09/2019 10:08, Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY wrote: > Cher Matthew, > > For the record, you might be interested to know that, among the 30 > cantos of the ????????????? > > 21 are called k?tai (????) > 4 are called vari (???) > 2 are called kuravai (?????) > 2 are called m?lai (????) > 1 is called p??al (?????) > > On page 864 of the Madras Tamil Lexicon, you can read the following > > ????? (p. 864) k?tai ????? k?tai , n. < g?th?. 1. Poem; ??????. (???.) 2. > Division of a poem containing a narrative; ???????????? ?????. (?????. ???. > 63, ???.) > > In a similar manner, > the 30 cantos of the Ma?im?kalai (????????) are all called k?tai (????) > > I hope this is useful > > Meilleurs voeux > > -- Jean-Luc > > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > > > > On 19/09/2019 00:41, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear friends, > > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner > in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, > and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza ?and NIA verse. > I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features > including meter, rhyme etc. > > with thanks in advance, > Matthew > > Get Outlook for iOS > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options > or unsubscribe) > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:41:14 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:41:14 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <12982A77-E99F-4A33-91DA-94611B8D68B7@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:39 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:35 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 11:12 schrieb Quessel, Burkhard via INDOLOGY : > > for what is worth, I am happily using the hinglish keyboard on the ipad for Indian diacritics ?plus a few added characters via text replacements in settings: > e.g. the ?m? offered by the hinglish keyboard under m can be replaced with ?? > and other rext replacements can be defined when necessary > > best, > Burkhard > > Sent from my iPad > > On 19 Sep 2019, at 09:55, James Hartzell via INDOLOGY wrote: > > Thanks Jan very much--this looks promising and I will try to test it out soon. > > FYI I received this reply from one of the Ukelele development team members about the possibility of setting something up in Ukelele use Sanskrit-relevant diacritics in MS Word on the Ipad with Apple's smart keyboard: > "Sorry, but that's not possible. The iPad has a different keyboard > processing system to the Mac, so Mac keyboard layouts won't work with > iOS devices. As far as I know, you are limited to the keyboard layouts > available in the App Store. Keyman offers the widest variety, I think, > but developing a new keyboard is only possible with Keyman Developer, > which is Windows-only. But you might find what you need already out there." > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 2:32 PM wrote: > Hello, > > I have underestimated the submission process length, but in case you cannot > use keyboard or install software, I have made a simple online add-in for > Word/PowerPoint that you can use to enter the diacritics (unless your > organization disabled using Office add-ins). > > Windows and Mac: Go to Insert tab > Get Add-Ins and search for Indic > Online in browser: Go to Insert tab > Add-ins > Store and search for Indic > iPad: In landscape mode, go to Insert tab > Add-ins > All > search for Indic > > Add the add-in and you should get a taskpane with character buttons, see > http://apps.ujca.cz/IndicInputWebPane/ for a screenshot. > > It's not a great typing experience but better than nothing. > > Hope this helps, > Jan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: INDOLOGY On Behalf Of James > Hartzell via INDOLOGY > Sent: ?ter? 13. srpna 2019 7:41 > To: indology at list.indology.info > Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? > > Hello > > Has anyone found a way to type Sanskrit diacritics in MS-Word on the Ipad? > > So far my attempts have been fruitless. > > Cheers > James > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > > -- > James Hartzell, PhD > Basque Center on Cognition, Brain and Language (BCBL), Donostia, Spain > Center for Mind/Brain Sciences (CIMeC), The University of Trento, Italy > Center for Buddhist Studies, Columbia University, USA > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > ? > ****************************************************************************************************************** > Experience the British Library online at www.bl.uk > > The British Library?s latest Annual Report and Accounts : www.bl.uk/aboutus/annrep/index.html > > Help the British Library conserve the world's knowledge. 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The British Library does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. > > ***************************************************************************************************************** > Think before you print > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:42:01 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:42:01 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: <5CCB96E4-2E8A-4F3F-B569-7F68B9BFA13B@fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: <918FDBE8-3950-4659-B688-22F7611BA3EB@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:39 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:34 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 10:00 schrieb Nagaraj Paturi via INDOLOGY : > > Sharing a snapshot of a page from a book? > > The Sants : Studies in a Devotional Tradition of India by W H McLeod > > In the footnotes it has a few references that may be useful > > The page is?here.? > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:15 PM Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY wrote: > For the doh?, see M. Shahidullah, Les chants mystiques de K??ha et de Saraha, pp. 60-66. > Though occasionally rhyme may be found in other, earlier, texts (I remember having read something somewhere about these "predecessors, written by D. Goodall) it has become a systematic feature of Apabhra??a texts (folk songs). > L. Alsdorf, Apabhra??a-Studien. AKM XXII 2, pp. 39-56. > > Herman > > Herman Tieken > Stationsweg 58 > 2515 BP Den Haag > The Netherlands > 00 31 (0)70 2208127 > website: hermantieken.com > > Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info] > Verzonden: donderdag 19 september 2019 0:41 > Aan: indology at list.indology.info > Onderwerp: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms > > > Dear friends, > > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza ?and NIA verse. I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features including meter, rhyme etc.? > > with thanks in advance, > Matthew? > > Get Outlook for iOS > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > ? > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > Director,? Inter-Gurukula-University Centre , Indic Academy > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala > BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies,? > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of??Liberal Education,? > (Pune, Maharashtra,?INDIA?) > ? > ? > ? > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:43:05 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:43:05 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? In-Reply-To: <861B52E7-7F19-432B-9B33-34C7248587AD@fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:40 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:39 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:33 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 11:44 schrieb James Hartzell via INDOLOGY : > > Thanks Burkhard--I will definitely test the Hinglish method as well. > Cheers > James > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 11:12 AM Quessel, Burkhard wrote: > for what is worth, I am happily using the hinglish keyboard on the ipad for Indian diacritics ?plus a few added characters via text replacements in settings: > e.g. the ?m? offered by the hinglish keyboard under m can be replaced with ?? > and other rext replacements can be defined when necessary > > best, > Burkhard > > Sent from my iPad > > On 19 Sep 2019, at 09:55, James Hartzell via INDOLOGY wrote: > > Thanks Jan very much--this looks promising and I will try to test it out soon. > > FYI I received this reply from one of the Ukelele development team members about the possibility of setting something up in Ukelele use Sanskrit-relevant diacritics in MS Word on the Ipad with Apple's smart keyboard: > "Sorry, but that's not possible. The iPad has a different keyboard > processing system to the Mac, so Mac keyboard layouts won't work with > iOS devices. As far as I know, you are limited to the keyboard layouts > available in the App Store. Keyman offers the widest variety, I think, > but developing a new keyboard is only possible with Keyman Developer, > which is Windows-only. But you might find what you need already out there." > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 2:32 PM wrote: > Hello, > > I have underestimated the submission process length, but in case you cannot > use keyboard or install software, I have made a simple online add-in for > Word/PowerPoint that you can use to enter the diacritics (unless your > organization disabled using Office add-ins). > > Windows and Mac: Go to Insert tab > Get Add-Ins and search for Indic > Online in browser: Go to Insert tab > Add-ins > Store and search for Indic > iPad: In landscape mode, go to Insert tab > Add-ins > All > search for Indic > > Add the add-in and you should get a taskpane with character buttons, see > http://apps.ujca.cz/IndicInputWebPane/ for a screenshot. > > It's not a great typing experience but better than nothing. > > Hope this helps, > Jan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: INDOLOGY On Behalf Of James > Hartzell via INDOLOGY > Sent: ?ter? 13. srpna 2019 7:41 > To: indology at list.indology.info > Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? > > Hello > > Has anyone found a way to type Sanskrit diacritics in MS-Word on the Ipad? > > So far my attempts have been fruitless. > > Cheers > James > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > > -- > James Hartzell, PhD > Basque Center on Cognition, Brain and Language (BCBL), Donostia, Spain > Center for Mind/Brain Sciences (CIMeC), The University of Trento, Italy > Center for Buddhist Studies, Columbia University, USA > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > ? > ****************************************************************************************************************** > Experience the British Library online at www.bl.uk > > The British Library?s latest Annual Report and Accounts : www.bl.uk/aboutus/annrep/index.html > > Help the British Library conserve the world's knowledge. 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The British Library does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. > > ***************************************************************************************************************** > Think before you print > > > -- > James Hartzell, PhD > Basque Center on Cognition, Brain and Language (BCBL), Donostia, Spain > Center for Mind/Brain Sciences (CIMeC), The University of Trento, Italy > Center for Buddhist Studies, Columbia University, USA > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:43:25 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:43:25 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <98B8F562-44F2-4382-99EF-85A3FFC82721@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:40 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:38 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:31 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 10:03 schrieb Nagaraj Paturi via INDOLOGY : > > In view of Gatha-Arya connection , > > The origins of the??ry??metre > by > Prof. K.R. Norman? > > https://www.ancient-buddhist-texts.net/Textual-Studies/Prosody-Articles/Norman-Arya.htm? > > may be useful.?? > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 1:30 PM Nagaraj Paturi wrote: > Sharing a snapshot of a page from a book? > > The Sants : Studies in a Devotional Tradition of India by W H McLeod > > In the footnotes it has a few references that may be useful > > The page is?here.? > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:15 PM Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY wrote: > For the doh?, see M. Shahidullah, Les chants mystiques de K??ha et de Saraha, pp. 60-66. > Though occasionally rhyme may be found in other, earlier, texts (I remember having read something somewhere about these "predecessors, written by D. Goodall) it has become a systematic feature of Apabhra??a texts (folk songs). > L. Alsdorf, Apabhra??a-Studien. AKM XXII 2, pp. 39-56. > > Herman > > Herman Tieken > Stationsweg 58 > 2515 BP Den Haag > The Netherlands > 00 31 (0)70 2208127 > website: hermantieken.com > > Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info] > Verzonden: donderdag 19 september 2019 0:41 > Aan: indology at list.indology.info > Onderwerp: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms > > > Dear friends, > > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza ?and NIA verse. I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features including meter, rhyme etc.? > > with thanks in advance, > Matthew? > > Get Outlook for iOS > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > ? > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > Director,? Inter-Gurukula-University Centre , Indic Academy > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala > BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies,? > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of??Liberal Education,? > (Pune, Maharashtra,?INDIA?) > ? > ? > ? > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > ? > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > Director,? Inter-Gurukula-University Centre , Indic Academy > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala > BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies,? > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of??Liberal Education,? > (Pune, Maharashtra,?INDIA?) > ? > ? > ? > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:43:29 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:43:29 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Bhamati-text with Hindi translation In-Reply-To: <01D02EB5-0D5E-4EE4-9751-16F0201302BD@fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:40 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:38 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:32 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 18:43 schrieb Elliot Stern via INDOLOGY : > > Part 1 of a Hindi translation is available at archive.org: > > https://archive.org/details/BrahmaSutraShankaraBhashyaBhamatiVachaspatiBhamatiHindiVyakhyaSwamiYogindranandPart1Chowkambha_201806/page/n21 > > > > On Sep 23, 2019, at 9:09 AM, alakendu das via INDOLOGY wrote: > To all, Can anybody kindly let me know any version of Bachaspati Misra's "Bhamati' with Hindi translation. > Alakendu Das > > > > Sent from RediffmailNG on Android > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > Elliot M. Stern > 552 South 48th Street > Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029 > emstern1948 at gmail.com > 267-240-8418 > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:43:49 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:43:49 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: <4658F08E-DC51-4844-9E76-14A15188F36D@fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:40 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:38 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:32 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 11:26 schrieb Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY : > > In my naivety I have always assumed that k?tai (from Skt g?th?) in the titles of the Cilappatik?ram is a translation of Tamil p???u, "song", as in Pattupp???u, which latter collection is made up of "long" poems like the Cilappatik?ram chapters and as such differs from, for instance, the Ku?untokai. > Herman > > Herman Tieken > Stationsweg 58 > 2515 BP Den Haag > The Netherlands > 00 31 (0)70 2208127 > website: hermantieken.com > > ________________________________________ > Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info] > Verzonden: donderdag 19 september 2019 10:18 > Aan: indology at list.indology.info > Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms > > Oops ... > > I now see that I should have written > > among the 30 > cantos of the CILAPPATIK?RAM (?????????????) > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silappatikaram > > -- jl > > On 19/09/2019 10:08, Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY wrote: > Cher Matthew, > > For the record, you might be interested to know that, among the 30 > cantos of the ????????????? > > 21 are called k?tai (????) > 4 are called vari (???) > 2 are called kuravai (?????) > 2 are called m?lai (????) > 1 is called p??al (?????) > > On page 864 of the Madras Tamil Lexicon, you can read the following > > ????? (p. 864) k?tai ????? k?tai , n. < g?th?. 1. Poem; ??????. (???.) 2. > Division of a poem containing a narrative; ???????????? ?????. (?????. ???. > 63, ???.) > > In a similar manner, > the 30 cantos of the Ma?im?kalai (????????) are all called k?tai (????) > > I hope this is useful > > Meilleurs voeux > > -- Jean-Luc > > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > > > > On 19/09/2019 00:41, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear friends, > > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner > in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, > and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza ?and NIA verse. > I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features > including meter, rhyme etc. > > with thanks in advance, > Matthew > > Get Outlook for iOS > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options > or unsubscribe) > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:43:59 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:43:59 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:40 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:38 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:32 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 10:54 schrieb James Hartzell via INDOLOGY : > > Thanks Jan very much--this looks promising and I will try to test it out soon. > > FYI I received this reply from one of the Ukelele development team members about the possibility of setting something up in Ukelele use Sanskrit-relevant diacritics in MS Word on the Ipad with Apple's smart keyboard: > "Sorry, but that's not possible. The iPad has a different keyboard > processing system to the Mac, so Mac keyboard layouts won't work with > iOS devices. As far as I know, you are limited to the keyboard layouts > available in the App Store. Keyman offers the widest variety, I think, > but developing a new keyboard is only possible with Keyman Developer, > which is Windows-only. But you might find what you need already out there." > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 2:32 PM wrote: > Hello, > > I have underestimated the submission process length, but in case you cannot > use keyboard or install software, I have made a simple online add-in for > Word/PowerPoint that you can use to enter the diacritics (unless your > organization disabled using Office add-ins). > > Windows and Mac: Go to Insert tab > Get Add-Ins and search for Indic > Online in browser: Go to Insert tab > Add-ins > Store and search for Indic > iPad: In landscape mode, go to Insert tab > Add-ins > All > search for Indic > > Add the add-in and you should get a taskpane with character buttons, see > http://apps.ujca.cz/IndicInputWebPane/ for a screenshot. > > It's not a great typing experience but better than nothing. > > Hope this helps, > Jan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: INDOLOGY On Behalf Of James > Hartzell via INDOLOGY > Sent: ?ter? 13. srpna 2019 7:41 > To: indology at list.indology.info > Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? > > Hello > > Has anyone found a way to type Sanskrit diacritics in MS-Word on the Ipad? > > So far my attempts have been fruitless. > > Cheers > James > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > > -- > James Hartzell, PhD > Basque Center on Cognition, Brain and Language (BCBL), Donostia, Spain > Center for Mind/Brain Sciences (CIMeC), The University of Trento, Italy > Center for Buddhist Studies, Columbia University, USA > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:44:18 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:44:18 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: <834B594F-FBD1-4BC2-A47F-7C01E6C3EB7F@fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:41 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:39 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:34 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 12:04 schrieb Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY : > > Cher Herman, > > in order to decrease your amount of "na?vet?", you might want to read the 1977 book written by ?. ??. ???????? (Na. V?. Ceyar?man) > for which the title is: > > ??????????? ????????? ?[Cilappatik?ra Y?ppamaiti] > [[Prosody in Silappathikaram]] > > Annamalai University publication > > This 516 pages book is the published version of a Ph.D. thesis > > I have a Xerox copy of this book thanks to a common friend of ours, who is also a member of this list. > > Meilleur souvenir > > -- Jean-Luc > > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > > > > On 19/09/2019 11:26, Tieken, H.J.H. wrote: > In my naivety I have always assumed that k?tai (from Skt g?th?) in the titles of the Cilappatik?ram is a translation of Tamil p???u, "song", as in Pattupp???u, which latter collection is made up of "long" poems like the Cilappatik?ram chapters and as such differs from, for instance, the Ku?untokai. > Herman > Herman Tieken > Stationsweg 58 > 2515 BP Den Haag > The Netherlands > 00 31 (0)70 2208127 > website: hermantieken.com > ________________________________________ > Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info] > Verzonden: donderdag 19 september 2019 10:18 > Aan: indology at list.indology.info > Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms > Oops ... > I now see that I should have written > among the 30 > cantos of the CILAPPATIK?RAM (?????????????) > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silappatikaram > -- jl > On 19/09/2019 10:08, Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY wrote: > Cher Matthew, > > For the record, you might be interested to know that, among the 30 > cantos of the ????????????? > > 21 are called k?tai (????) > 4 are called vari (???) > 2 are called kuravai (?????) > 2 are called m?lai (????) > 1 is called p??al (?????) > > On page 864 of the Madras Tamil Lexicon, you can read the following > > ????? (p. 864) k?tai ????? k?tai , n. < g?th?. 1. Poem; ??????. (???.) 2. > Division of a poem containing a narrative; ???????????? ?????. (?????. ???. > 63, ???.) > > In a similar manner, > the 30 cantos of the Ma?im?kalai (????????) are all called k?tai (????) > > I hope this is useful > > Meilleurs voeux > > -- Jean-Luc > > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > > > > On 19/09/2019 00:41, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear friends, > > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner > in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, > and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza ?and NIA verse. > I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features > including meter, rhyme etc. > > with thanks in advance, > Matthew > > Get Outlook for iOS > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options > or unsubscribe) > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:44:17 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:44:17 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: <59B45C18-7D55-4B9C-802B-2CB7E12796EC@fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: <44BC341B-CB25-4667-8A1B-366FA97F1E23@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:40 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:38 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:31 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 12:11 schrieb Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY : > > > Dear friends, > > Thanks to all who responded to my query on gAthA and dohA. I am sorry that I did not make clear that I have very complete material on the Buddhist dohA traditions and so did not need to bother you about that. Also, though the Tamil information is of course quite interesting, it is, I regret to say, outside of my domain. > > In all events, the references I have received from you promise a good start. > Thanks as always, > > Matthew > > Matthew Kapstein > Directeur d'?tudes, > Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes > > Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, > The University of Chicago > > From: INDOLOGY on behalf of Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 5:04 AM > To: indology at list.indology.info > Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms > ? > Cher Herman, > > in order to decrease your amount of "na?vet?", you might want to read > the 1977 book written by ?. ??. ???????? (Na. V?. Ceyar?man) > for which the title is: > > ??????????? ????????? ?[Cilappatik?ra Y?ppamaiti] > [[Prosody in Silappathikaram]] > > Annamalai University publication > > This 516 pages book is the published version of a Ph.D. thesis > > I have a Xerox copy of this book thanks to a common friend of ours, who > is also a member of this list. > > Meilleur souvenir > > -- Jean-Luc > > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > > > > On 19/09/2019 11:26, Tieken, H.J.H. wrote: > In my naivety I have always assumed that k?tai (from Skt g?th?) in the titles of the Cilappatik?ram is a translation of Tamil p???u, "song", as in Pattupp???u, which latter collection is made up of "long" poems like the Cilappatik?ram chapters and as such differs from, for instance, the Ku?untokai. > Herman > > Herman Tieken > Stationsweg 58 > 2515 BP Den Haag > The Netherlands > 00 31 (0)70 2208127 > website: hermantieken.com > > ________________________________________ > Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info] > Verzonden: donderdag 19 september 2019 10:18 > Aan: indology at list.indology.info > Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms > > Oops ... > > I now see that I should have written > > among the 30 > cantos of the CILAPPATIK?RAM (?????????????) > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silappatikaram > > -- jl > > On 19/09/2019 10:08, Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY wrote: > Cher Matthew, > > For the record, you might be interested to know that, among the 30 > cantos of the ????????????? > > 21 are called k?tai (????) > 4 are called vari (???) > 2 are called kuravai (?????) > 2 are called m?lai (????) > 1 is called p??al (?????) > > On page 864 of the Madras Tamil Lexicon, you can read the following > > ????? (p. 864) k?tai ????? k?tai , n. < g?th?. 1. Poem; ??????. (???.) 2. > Division of a poem containing a narrative; ???????????? ?????. (?????. ???. > 63, ???.) > > In a similar manner, > the 30 cantos of the Ma?im?kalai (????????) are all called k?tai (????) > > I hope this is useful > > Meilleurs voeux > > -- Jean-Luc > > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > > > > On 19/09/2019 00:41, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear friends, > > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner > in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, > and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza? and NIA verse. > I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features > including meter, rhyme etc. > > with thanks in advance, > Matthew > > Get Outlook for iOS > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options > or unsubscribe) > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:44:19 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:44:19 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Source of verse In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:41 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:40 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:38 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:33 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 00:07 schrieb Harry Spier via INDOLOGY : > > Thank you for this Madhav. > Harry > > On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 7:26 PM Madhav Deshpande wrote: > Hi Harry, > > ? ? ?One of the discussions on FaceBook quotes this verse as Hanum?n's response to R?ma in the Adhy?tma-R?m?ya?a.? Here is the discussion: > > ???????????????? ???? ?????? ?? > ????????-?????? ??? ????????? ?? ?? ??????? ?? ?? ??????? ?? ???????????? ?? ?????????????? ?? ????? ???? ?? | ?????????? ?? ?????? ?????????????????? ???? ????? ????????? ?? ? ?????? ??????? ?? ??????? ?? ?? ??? ?? ??, ?????? ?? ????? ???? ??? ? > ???????????? ?? ??????? ??????????? ???????: | > ?????????? ???????????? ?? ???????? ???: ||? > > > I don't have any verse index to Adhy?tma-R?m?ya?a, or a searchable text.? Hopefully, you can find this verse there.? Best, > > > Madhav M. Deshpande > Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics > University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies > > [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] > > > On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 2:47 PM Harry Spier via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear list members, > > Does anyone know the source of this verse: > ?dehad???y? tu d?so'ha? j?vad???y? tvada??aka? | > ?tmad???y? tvamev?ham iti me ni?cit? mati? || > Thanks, > Harry Spier > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:44:18 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:44:18 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: <1DD7F168-2B57-4E60-AF6E-0EE594E208FA@fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:41 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:40 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:38 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:33 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 10:08 schrieb Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY : > > Cher Matthew, > > For the record, you might be interested to know that, among the 30 cantos of the ????????????? > > 21 are called k?tai (????) > 4 are called vari (???) > 2 are called kuravai (?????) > 2 are called m?lai (????) > 1 is called p??al (?????) > > On page 864 of the Madras Tamil Lexicon, you can read the following > > ????? (p. 864) k?tai ????? k?tai , n. < g?th?. 1. Poem; ??????. (???.) 2. Division of a poem containing a narrative; ???????????? ?????. (?????. ???. 63, ???.) > > In a similar manner, > the 30 cantos of the Ma?im?kalai (????????) are all called k?tai (????) > > I hope this is useful > > Meilleurs voeux > > -- Jean-Luc > > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > > > > On 19/09/2019 00:41, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear friends, > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza ?and NIA verse. I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features including meter, rhyme etc. > with thanks in advance, > Matthew > Get Outlook for iOS > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:44:19 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:44:19 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: <47B4D09F-3340-4D50-B0CA-AB0B31CF9BC8@fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: <576BE875-6204-464F-80FE-89AC24FBBA85@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:40 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:38 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:33 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 10:18 schrieb Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY : > > Oops ... > > I now see that I should have written > > among the 30 > cantos of the CILAPPATIK?RAM (?????????????) > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silappatikaram > > -- jl > > On 19/09/2019 10:08, Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY wrote: > Cher Matthew, > For the record, you might be interested to know that, among the 30 cantos of the ????????????? > 21 are called k?tai (????) > 4 are called vari (???) > 2 are called kuravai (?????) > 2 are called m?lai (????) > 1 is called p??al (?????) > On page 864 of the Madras Tamil Lexicon, you can read the following > ????? (p. 864) k?tai ????? k?tai , n. < g?th?. 1. Poem; ??????. (???.) 2. Division of a poem containing a narrative; ???????????? ?????. (?????. ???. 63, ???.) > In a similar manner, > the 30 cantos of the Ma?im?kalai (????????) are all called k?tai (????) > I hope this is useful > Meilleurs voeux > -- Jean-Luc > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > On 19/09/2019 00:41, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear friends, > > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza ?and NIA verse. I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features including meter, rhyme etc. > > with thanks in advance, > Matthew > > Get Outlook for iOS > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:44:39 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:44:39 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Bhamati-text with Hindi translation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:43 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:40 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:38 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:32 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 18:43 schrieb Elliot Stern via INDOLOGY : > > Part 1 of a Hindi translation is available at archive.org: > > https://archive.org/details/BrahmaSutraShankaraBhashyaBhamatiVachaspatiBhamatiHindiVyakhyaSwamiYogindranandPart1Chowkambha_201806/page/n21 > > > > On Sep 23, 2019, at 9:09 AM, alakendu das via INDOLOGY wrote: > To all, Can anybody kindly let me know any version of Bachaspati Misra's "Bhamati' with Hindi translation. > Alakendu Das > > > > Sent from RediffmailNG on Android > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > Elliot M. Stern > 552 South 48th Street > Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029 > emstern1948 at gmail.com > 267-240-8418 > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:44:40 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:44:40 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:43 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:40 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:39 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:33 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 11:44 schrieb James Hartzell via INDOLOGY : > > Thanks Burkhard--I will definitely test the Hinglish method as well. > Cheers > James > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 11:12 AM Quessel, Burkhard wrote: > for what is worth, I am happily using the hinglish keyboard on the ipad for Indian diacritics ?plus a few added characters via text replacements in settings: > e.g. the ?m? offered by the hinglish keyboard under m can be replaced with ?? > and other rext replacements can be defined when necessary > > best, > Burkhard > > Sent from my iPad > > On 19 Sep 2019, at 09:55, James Hartzell via INDOLOGY wrote: > > Thanks Jan very much--this looks promising and I will try to test it out soon. > > FYI I received this reply from one of the Ukelele development team members about the possibility of setting something up in Ukelele use Sanskrit-relevant diacritics in MS Word on the Ipad with Apple's smart keyboard: > "Sorry, but that's not possible. The iPad has a different keyboard > processing system to the Mac, so Mac keyboard layouts won't work with > iOS devices. As far as I know, you are limited to the keyboard layouts > available in the App Store. Keyman offers the widest variety, I think, > but developing a new keyboard is only possible with Keyman Developer, > which is Windows-only. But you might find what you need already out there." > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 2:32 PM wrote: > Hello, > > I have underestimated the submission process length, but in case you cannot > use keyboard or install software, I have made a simple online add-in for > Word/PowerPoint that you can use to enter the diacritics (unless your > organization disabled using Office add-ins). > > Windows and Mac: Go to Insert tab > Get Add-Ins and search for Indic > Online in browser: Go to Insert tab > Add-ins > Store and search for Indic > iPad: In landscape mode, go to Insert tab > Add-ins > All > search for Indic > > Add the add-in and you should get a taskpane with character buttons, see > http://apps.ujca.cz/IndicInputWebPane/ for a screenshot. > > It's not a great typing experience but better than nothing. > > Hope this helps, > Jan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: INDOLOGY On Behalf Of James > Hartzell via INDOLOGY > Sent: ?ter? 13. srpna 2019 7:41 > To: indology at list.indology.info > Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? > > Hello > > Has anyone found a way to type Sanskrit diacritics in MS-Word on the Ipad? > > So far my attempts have been fruitless. > > Cheers > James > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > > -- > James Hartzell, PhD > Basque Center on Cognition, Brain and Language (BCBL), Donostia, Spain > Center for Mind/Brain Sciences (CIMeC), The University of Trento, Italy > Center for Buddhist Studies, Columbia University, USA > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > ? > ****************************************************************************************************************** > Experience the British Library online at www.bl.uk > > The British Library?s latest Annual Report and Accounts : www.bl.uk/aboutus/annrep/index.html > > Help the British Library conserve the world's knowledge. 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The British Library does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. > > ***************************************************************************************************************** > Think before you print > > > -- > James Hartzell, PhD > Basque Center on Cognition, Brain and Language (BCBL), Donostia, Spain > Center for Mind/Brain Sciences (CIMeC), The University of Trento, Italy > Center for Buddhist Studies, Columbia University, USA > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:44:54 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:44:54 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? In-Reply-To: <12982A77-E99F-4A33-91DA-94611B8D68B7@fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: <44BF625E-BF69-454E-91C2-ACB5733682CE@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:41 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:39 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:35 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 11:12 schrieb Quessel, Burkhard via INDOLOGY : > > for what is worth, I am happily using the hinglish keyboard on the ipad for Indian diacritics ?plus a few added characters via text replacements in settings: > e.g. the ?m? offered by the hinglish keyboard under m can be replaced with ?? > and other rext replacements can be defined when necessary > > best, > Burkhard > > Sent from my iPad > > On 19 Sep 2019, at 09:55, James Hartzell via INDOLOGY wrote: > > Thanks Jan very much--this looks promising and I will try to test it out soon. > > FYI I received this reply from one of the Ukelele development team members about the possibility of setting something up in Ukelele use Sanskrit-relevant diacritics in MS Word on the Ipad with Apple's smart keyboard: > "Sorry, but that's not possible. The iPad has a different keyboard > processing system to the Mac, so Mac keyboard layouts won't work with > iOS devices. As far as I know, you are limited to the keyboard layouts > available in the App Store. Keyman offers the widest variety, I think, > but developing a new keyboard is only possible with Keyman Developer, > which is Windows-only. But you might find what you need already out there." > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 2:32 PM wrote: > Hello, > > I have underestimated the submission process length, but in case you cannot > use keyboard or install software, I have made a simple online add-in for > Word/PowerPoint that you can use to enter the diacritics (unless your > organization disabled using Office add-ins). > > Windows and Mac: Go to Insert tab > Get Add-Ins and search for Indic > Online in browser: Go to Insert tab > Add-ins > Store and search for Indic > iPad: In landscape mode, go to Insert tab > Add-ins > All > search for Indic > > Add the add-in and you should get a taskpane with character buttons, see > http://apps.ujca.cz/IndicInputWebPane/ for a screenshot. > > It's not a great typing experience but better than nothing. > > Hope this helps, > Jan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: INDOLOGY On Behalf Of James > Hartzell via INDOLOGY > Sent: ?ter? 13. srpna 2019 7:41 > To: indology at list.indology.info > Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? > > Hello > > Has anyone found a way to type Sanskrit diacritics in MS-Word on the Ipad? > > So far my attempts have been fruitless. > > Cheers > James > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > > -- > James Hartzell, PhD > Basque Center on Cognition, Brain and Language (BCBL), Donostia, Spain > Center for Mind/Brain Sciences (CIMeC), The University of Trento, Italy > Center for Buddhist Studies, Columbia University, USA > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > ? > ****************************************************************************************************************** > Experience the British Library online at www.bl.uk > > The British Library?s latest Annual Report and Accounts : www.bl.uk/aboutus/annrep/index.html > > Help the British Library conserve the world's knowledge. Adopt a Book. www.bl.uk/adoptabook > > The Library's St Pancras site is WiFi - enabled > > ***************************************************************************************************************** > > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the postmaster at bl.uk : The contents of this e-mail must not be disclosed or copied without the sender's consent. > > The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the British Library. The British Library does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. > > ***************************************************************************************************************** > Think before you print > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:44:56 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:44:56 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: <98B8F562-44F2-4382-99EF-85A3FFC82721@fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: <8FEDCB3B-EB02-4A90-88AE-3BF113834277@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:43 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:40 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:38 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:31 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 10:03 schrieb Nagaraj Paturi via INDOLOGY : > > In view of Gatha-Arya connection , > > The origins of the??ry??metre > by > Prof. K.R. Norman? > > https://www.ancient-buddhist-texts.net/Textual-Studies/Prosody-Articles/Norman-Arya.htm? > > may be useful.?? > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 1:30 PM Nagaraj Paturi wrote: > Sharing a snapshot of a page from a book? > > The Sants : Studies in a Devotional Tradition of India by W H McLeod > > In the footnotes it has a few references that may be useful > > The page is?here.? > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:15 PM Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY wrote: > For the doh?, see M. Shahidullah, Les chants mystiques de K??ha et de Saraha, pp. 60-66. > Though occasionally rhyme may be found in other, earlier, texts (I remember having read something somewhere about these "predecessors, written by D. Goodall) it has become a systematic feature of Apabhra??a texts (folk songs). > L. Alsdorf, Apabhra??a-Studien. AKM XXII 2, pp. 39-56. > > Herman > > Herman Tieken > Stationsweg 58 > 2515 BP Den Haag > The Netherlands > 00 31 (0)70 2208127 > website: hermantieken.com > > Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info] > Verzonden: donderdag 19 september 2019 0:41 > Aan: indology at list.indology.info > Onderwerp: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms > > > Dear friends, > > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza ?and NIA verse. I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features including meter, rhyme etc.? > > with thanks in advance, > Matthew? > > Get Outlook for iOS > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > ? > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > Director,? Inter-Gurukula-University Centre , Indic Academy > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala > BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies,? > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of??Liberal Education,? > (Pune, Maharashtra,?INDIA?) > ? > ? > ? > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > ? > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > Director,? Inter-Gurukula-University Centre , Indic Academy > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala > BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies,? > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of??Liberal Education,? > (Pune, Maharashtra,?INDIA?) > ? > ? > ? > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:45:17 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:45:17 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: <918FDBE8-3950-4659-B688-22F7611BA3EB@fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:42 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:39 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:34 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 10:00 schrieb Nagaraj Paturi via INDOLOGY : > > Sharing a snapshot of a page from a book? > > The Sants : Studies in a Devotional Tradition of India by W H McLeod > > In the footnotes it has a few references that may be useful > > The page is?here.? > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:15 PM Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY wrote: > For the doh?, see M. Shahidullah, Les chants mystiques de K??ha et de Saraha, pp. 60-66. > Though occasionally rhyme may be found in other, earlier, texts (I remember having read something somewhere about these "predecessors, written by D. Goodall) it has become a systematic feature of Apabhra??a texts (folk songs). > L. Alsdorf, Apabhra??a-Studien. AKM XXII 2, pp. 39-56. > > Herman > > Herman Tieken > Stationsweg 58 > 2515 BP Den Haag > The Netherlands > 00 31 (0)70 2208127 > website: hermantieken.com > > Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info] > Verzonden: donderdag 19 september 2019 0:41 > Aan: indology at list.indology.info > Onderwerp: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms > > > Dear friends, > > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza ?and NIA verse. I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features including meter, rhyme etc.? > > with thanks in advance, > Matthew? > > Get Outlook for iOS > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > ? > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > Director,? Inter-Gurukula-University Centre , Indic Academy > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala > BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies,? > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of??Liberal Education,? > (Pune, Maharashtra,?INDIA?) > ? > ? > ? > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:45:36 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:45:36 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] [Dis]continuing my Krishna verses In-Reply-To: <3B8446B9-6AF9-4A66-BD9C-C681BDC8F9B2@fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:41 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:39 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:34 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 15:19 schrieb Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY : > > Dear Friends, > > ? ? ?When I started writing my Krishna verses, I had no idea that this would become such a long time pre-occupation.? I have now decided that I will no longer continue to send these verses daily to Indology.? If you are still interested in reading them, you can read them either on my FaceBook page, or let me know privately so that I can form a small group of interested readers.? In a not too?distant future, these verses will appear in a book form.? With best wishes, > > Madhav M. Deshpande > Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics > University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies > > [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:46:15 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:46:15 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:43 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:40 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:38 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:32 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 11:26 schrieb Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY : > > In my naivety I have always assumed that k?tai (from Skt g?th?) in the titles of the Cilappatik?ram is a translation of Tamil p???u, "song", as in Pattupp???u, which latter collection is made up of "long" poems like the Cilappatik?ram chapters and as such differs from, for instance, the Ku?untokai. > Herman > > Herman Tieken > Stationsweg 58 > 2515 BP Den Haag > The Netherlands > 00 31 (0)70 2208127 > website: hermantieken.com > > ________________________________________ > Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info] > Verzonden: donderdag 19 september 2019 10:18 > Aan: indology at list.indology.info > Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms > > Oops ... > > I now see that I should have written > > among the 30 > cantos of the CILAPPATIK?RAM (?????????????) > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silappatikaram > > -- jl > > On 19/09/2019 10:08, Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY wrote: > Cher Matthew, > > For the record, you might be interested to know that, among the 30 > cantos of the ????????????? > > 21 are called k?tai (????) > 4 are called vari (???) > 2 are called kuravai (?????) > 2 are called m?lai (????) > 1 is called p??al (?????) > > On page 864 of the Madras Tamil Lexicon, you can read the following > > ????? (p. 864) k?tai ????? k?tai , n. < g?th?. 1. Poem; ??????. (???.) 2. > Division of a poem containing a narrative; ???????????? ?????. (?????. ???. > 63, ???.) > > In a similar manner, > the 30 cantos of the Ma?im?kalai (????????) are all called k?tai (????) > > I hope this is useful > > Meilleurs voeux > > -- Jean-Luc > > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > > > > On 19/09/2019 00:41, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear friends, > > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner > in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, > and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza ?and NIA verse. > I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features > including meter, rhyme etc. > > with thanks in advance, > Matthew > > Get Outlook for iOS > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options > or unsubscribe) > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:46:17 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:46:17 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:43 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:40 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:38 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:32 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 10:54 schrieb James Hartzell via INDOLOGY : > > Thanks Jan very much--this looks promising and I will try to test it out soon. > > FYI I received this reply from one of the Ukelele development team members about the possibility of setting something up in Ukelele use Sanskrit-relevant diacritics in MS Word on the Ipad with Apple's smart keyboard: > "Sorry, but that's not possible. The iPad has a different keyboard > processing system to the Mac, so Mac keyboard layouts won't work with > iOS devices. As far as I know, you are limited to the keyboard layouts > available in the App Store. Keyman offers the widest variety, I think, > but developing a new keyboard is only possible with Keyman Developer, > which is Windows-only. But you might find what you need already out there." > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 2:32 PM wrote: > Hello, > > I have underestimated the submission process length, but in case you cannot > use keyboard or install software, I have made a simple online add-in for > Word/PowerPoint that you can use to enter the diacritics (unless your > organization disabled using Office add-ins). > > Windows and Mac: Go to Insert tab > Get Add-Ins and search for Indic > Online in browser: Go to Insert tab > Add-ins > Store and search for Indic > iPad: In landscape mode, go to Insert tab > Add-ins > All > search for Indic > > Add the add-in and you should get a taskpane with character buttons, see > http://apps.ujca.cz/IndicInputWebPane/ for a screenshot. > > It's not a great typing experience but better than nothing. > > Hope this helps, > Jan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: INDOLOGY On Behalf Of James > Hartzell via INDOLOGY > Sent: ?ter? 13. srpna 2019 7:41 > To: indology at list.indology.info > Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? > > Hello > > Has anyone found a way to type Sanskrit diacritics in MS-Word on the Ipad? > > So far my attempts have been fruitless. > > Cheers > James > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > > -- > James Hartzell, PhD > Basque Center on Cognition, Brain and Language (BCBL), Donostia, Spain > Center for Mind/Brain Sciences (CIMeC), The University of Trento, Italy > Center for Buddhist Studies, Columbia University, USA > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:46:37 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:46:37 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: <44BC341B-CB25-4667-8A1B-366FA97F1E23@fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: <7D7E0964-1A10-41AE-A27E-6C8D36132AAE@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:44 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:40 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:38 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:31 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 12:11 schrieb Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY : > > > Dear friends, > > Thanks to all who responded to my query on gAthA and dohA. I am sorry that I did not make clear that I have very complete material on the Buddhist dohA traditions and so did not need to bother you about that. Also, though the Tamil information is of course quite interesting, it is, I regret to say, outside of my domain. > > In all events, the references I have received from you promise a good start. > Thanks as always, > > Matthew > > Matthew Kapstein > Directeur d'?tudes, > Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes > > Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, > The University of Chicago > > From: INDOLOGY on behalf of Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 5:04 AM > To: indology at list.indology.info > Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms > ? > Cher Herman, > > in order to decrease your amount of "na?vet?", you might want to read > the 1977 book written by ?. ??. ???????? (Na. V?. Ceyar?man) > for which the title is: > > ??????????? ????????? ?[Cilappatik?ra Y?ppamaiti] > [[Prosody in Silappathikaram]] > > Annamalai University publication > > This 516 pages book is the published version of a Ph.D. thesis > > I have a Xerox copy of this book thanks to a common friend of ours, who > is also a member of this list. > > Meilleur souvenir > > -- Jean-Luc > > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > > > > On 19/09/2019 11:26, Tieken, H.J.H. wrote: > In my naivety I have always assumed that k?tai (from Skt g?th?) in the titles of the Cilappatik?ram is a translation of Tamil p???u, "song", as in Pattupp???u, which latter collection is made up of "long" poems like the Cilappatik?ram chapters and as such differs from, for instance, the Ku?untokai. > Herman > > Herman Tieken > Stationsweg 58 > 2515 BP Den Haag > The Netherlands > 00 31 (0)70 2208127 > website: hermantieken.com > > ________________________________________ > Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info] > Verzonden: donderdag 19 september 2019 10:18 > Aan: indology at list.indology.info > Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms > > Oops ... > > I now see that I should have written > > among the 30 > cantos of the CILAPPATIK?RAM (?????????????) > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silappatikaram > > -- jl > > On 19/09/2019 10:08, Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY wrote: > Cher Matthew, > > For the record, you might be interested to know that, among the 30 > cantos of the ????????????? > > 21 are called k?tai (????) > 4 are called vari (???) > 2 are called kuravai (?????) > 2 are called m?lai (????) > 1 is called p??al (?????) > > On page 864 of the Madras Tamil Lexicon, you can read the following > > ????? (p. 864) k?tai ????? k?tai , n. < g?th?. 1. Poem; ??????. (???.) 2. > Division of a poem containing a narrative; ???????????? ?????. (?????. ???. > 63, ???.) > > In a similar manner, > the 30 cantos of the Ma?im?kalai (????????) are all called k?tai (????) > > I hope this is useful > > Meilleurs voeux > > -- Jean-Luc > > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > > > > On 19/09/2019 00:41, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear friends, > > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner > in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, > and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza? and NIA verse. > I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features > including meter, rhyme etc. > > with thanks in advance, > Matthew > > Get Outlook for iOS > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options > or unsubscribe) > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:46:57 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:46:57 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: <8FEDCB3B-EB02-4A90-88AE-3BF113834277@fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:44 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:43 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:40 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:38 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:31 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 10:03 schrieb Nagaraj Paturi via INDOLOGY : > > In view of Gatha-Arya connection , > > The origins of the??ry??metre > by > Prof. K.R. Norman? > > https://www.ancient-buddhist-texts.net/Textual-Studies/Prosody-Articles/Norman-Arya.htm? > > may be useful.?? > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 1:30 PM Nagaraj Paturi wrote: > Sharing a snapshot of a page from a book? > > The Sants : Studies in a Devotional Tradition of India by W H McLeod > > In the footnotes it has a few references that may be useful > > The page is?here.? > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:15 PM Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY wrote: > For the doh?, see M. Shahidullah, Les chants mystiques de K??ha et de Saraha, pp. 60-66. > Though occasionally rhyme may be found in other, earlier, texts (I remember having read something somewhere about these "predecessors, written by D. Goodall) it has become a systematic feature of Apabhra??a texts (folk songs). > L. Alsdorf, Apabhra??a-Studien. AKM XXII 2, pp. 39-56. > > Herman > > Herman Tieken > Stationsweg 58 > 2515 BP Den Haag > The Netherlands > 00 31 (0)70 2208127 > website: hermantieken.com > > Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info] > Verzonden: donderdag 19 september 2019 0:41 > Aan: indology at list.indology.info > Onderwerp: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms > > > Dear friends, > > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza ?and NIA verse. I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features including meter, rhyme etc.? > > with thanks in advance, > Matthew? > > Get Outlook for iOS > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > ? > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > Director,? Inter-Gurukula-University Centre , Indic Academy > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala > BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies,? > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of??Liberal Education,? > (Pune, Maharashtra,?INDIA?) > ? > ? > ? > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > ? > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > Director,? Inter-Gurukula-University Centre , Indic Academy > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala > BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies,? > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of??Liberal Education,? > (Pune, Maharashtra,?INDIA?) > ? > ? > ? > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:47:40 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:47:40 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Source of verse In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <455E5B67-309D-4468-B3B6-50B2404F4739@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:44 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:41 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:40 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:38 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:33 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 00:07 schrieb Harry Spier via INDOLOGY : > > Thank you for this Madhav. > Harry > > On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 7:26 PM Madhav Deshpande wrote: > Hi Harry, > > ? ? ?One of the discussions on FaceBook quotes this verse as Hanum?n's response to R?ma in the Adhy?tma-R?m?ya?a.? Here is the discussion: > > ???????????????? ???? ?????? ?? > ????????-?????? ??? ????????? ?? ?? ??????? ?? ?? ??????? ?? ???????????? ?? ?????????????? ?? ????? ???? ?? | ?????????? ?? ?????? ?????????????????? ???? ????? ????????? ?? ? ?????? ??????? ?? ??????? ?? ?? ??? ?? ??, ?????? ?? ????? ???? ??? ? > ???????????? ?? ??????? ??????????? ???????: | > ?????????? ???????????? ?? ???????? ???: ||? > > > I don't have any verse index to Adhy?tma-R?m?ya?a, or a searchable text.? Hopefully, you can find this verse there.? Best, > > > Madhav M. Deshpande > Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics > University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies > > [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] > > > On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 2:47 PM Harry Spier via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear list members, > > Does anyone know the source of this verse: > ?dehad???y? tu d?so'ha? j?vad???y? tvada??aka? | > ?tmad???y? tvamev?ham iti me ni?cit? mati? || > Thanks, > Harry Spier > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:47:17 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:47:17 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:44 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:41 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:40 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:38 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:33 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 10:08 schrieb Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY : > > Cher Matthew, > > For the record, you might be interested to know that, among the 30 cantos of the ????????????? > > 21 are called k?tai (????) > 4 are called vari (???) > 2 are called kuravai (?????) > 2 are called m?lai (????) > 1 is called p??al (?????) > > On page 864 of the Madras Tamil Lexicon, you can read the following > > ????? (p. 864) k?tai ????? k?tai , n. < g?th?. 1. Poem; ??????. (???.) 2. Division of a poem containing a narrative; ???????????? ?????. (?????. ???. 63, ???.) > > In a similar manner, > the 30 cantos of the Ma?im?kalai (????????) are all called k?tai (????) > > I hope this is useful > > Meilleurs voeux > > -- Jean-Luc > > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > > > > On 19/09/2019 00:41, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear friends, > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza ?and NIA verse. I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features including meter, rhyme etc. > with thanks in advance, > Matthew > Get Outlook for iOS > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:47:44 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:47:44 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: <576BE875-6204-464F-80FE-89AC24FBBA85@fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: <8271A867-7C4D-4F0D-9498-26623030E643@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:44 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:40 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:38 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:33 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 10:18 schrieb Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY : > > Oops ... > > I now see that I should have written > > among the 30 > cantos of the CILAPPATIK?RAM (?????????????) > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silappatikaram > > -- jl > > On 19/09/2019 10:08, Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY wrote: > Cher Matthew, > For the record, you might be interested to know that, among the 30 cantos of the ????????????? > 21 are called k?tai (????) > 4 are called vari (???) > 2 are called kuravai (?????) > 2 are called m?lai (????) > 1 is called p??al (?????) > On page 864 of the Madras Tamil Lexicon, you can read the following > ????? (p. 864) k?tai ????? k?tai , n. < g?th?. 1. Poem; ??????. (???.) 2. Division of a poem containing a narrative; ???????????? ?????. (?????. ???. 63, ???.) > In a similar manner, > the 30 cantos of the Ma?im?kalai (????????) are all called k?tai (????) > I hope this is useful > Meilleurs voeux > -- Jean-Luc > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > On 19/09/2019 00:41, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear friends, > > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza ?and NIA verse. I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features including meter, rhyme etc. > > with thanks in advance, > Matthew > > Get Outlook for iOS > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:48:18 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:48:18 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? In-Reply-To: <44BF625E-BF69-454E-91C2-ACB5733682CE@fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:44 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:41 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:39 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:35 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 11:12 schrieb Quessel, Burkhard via INDOLOGY : > > for what is worth, I am happily using the hinglish keyboard on the ipad for Indian diacritics ?plus a few added characters via text replacements in settings: > e.g. the ?m? offered by the hinglish keyboard under m can be replaced with ?? > and other rext replacements can be defined when necessary > > best, > Burkhard > > Sent from my iPad > > On 19 Sep 2019, at 09:55, James Hartzell via INDOLOGY wrote: > > Thanks Jan very much--this looks promising and I will try to test it out soon. > > FYI I received this reply from one of the Ukelele development team members about the possibility of setting something up in Ukelele use Sanskrit-relevant diacritics in MS Word on the Ipad with Apple's smart keyboard: > "Sorry, but that's not possible. The iPad has a different keyboard > processing system to the Mac, so Mac keyboard layouts won't work with > iOS devices. As far as I know, you are limited to the keyboard layouts > available in the App Store. Keyman offers the widest variety, I think, > but developing a new keyboard is only possible with Keyman Developer, > which is Windows-only. But you might find what you need already out there." > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 2:32 PM wrote: > Hello, > > I have underestimated the submission process length, but in case you cannot > use keyboard or install software, I have made a simple online add-in for > Word/PowerPoint that you can use to enter the diacritics (unless your > organization disabled using Office add-ins). > > Windows and Mac: Go to Insert tab > Get Add-Ins and search for Indic > Online in browser: Go to Insert tab > Add-ins > Store and search for Indic > iPad: In landscape mode, go to Insert tab > Add-ins > All > search for Indic > > Add the add-in and you should get a taskpane with character buttons, see > http://apps.ujca.cz/IndicInputWebPane/ for a screenshot. > > It's not a great typing experience but better than nothing. > > Hope this helps, > Jan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: INDOLOGY On Behalf Of James > Hartzell via INDOLOGY > Sent: ?ter? 13. srpna 2019 7:41 > To: indology at list.indology.info > Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? > > Hello > > Has anyone found a way to type Sanskrit diacritics in MS-Word on the Ipad? > > So far my attempts have been fruitless. > > Cheers > James > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > > -- > James Hartzell, PhD > Basque Center on Cognition, Brain and Language (BCBL), Donostia, Spain > Center for Mind/Brain Sciences (CIMeC), The University of Trento, Italy > Center for Buddhist Studies, Columbia University, USA > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > ? > ****************************************************************************************************************** > Experience the British Library online at www.bl.uk > > The British Library?s latest Annual Report and Accounts : www.bl.uk/aboutus/annrep/index.html > > Help the British Library conserve the world's knowledge. Adopt a Book. www.bl.uk/adoptabook > > The Library's St Pancras site is WiFi - enabled > > ***************************************************************************************************************** > > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the postmaster at bl.uk : The contents of this e-mail must not be disclosed or copied without the sender's consent. > > The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the British Library. The British Library does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. > > ***************************************************************************************************************** > Think before you print > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:48:17 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:48:17 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9BFD65B9-0559-484C-8227-DC5015BFE162@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:44 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:43 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:40 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:39 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:33 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 11:44 schrieb James Hartzell via INDOLOGY : > > Thanks Burkhard--I will definitely test the Hinglish method as well. > Cheers > James > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 11:12 AM Quessel, Burkhard wrote: > for what is worth, I am happily using the hinglish keyboard on the ipad for Indian diacritics ?plus a few added characters via text replacements in settings: > e.g. the ?m? offered by the hinglish keyboard under m can be replaced with ?? > and other rext replacements can be defined when necessary > > best, > Burkhard > > Sent from my iPad > > On 19 Sep 2019, at 09:55, James Hartzell via INDOLOGY wrote: > > Thanks Jan very much--this looks promising and I will try to test it out soon. > > FYI I received this reply from one of the Ukelele development team members about the possibility of setting something up in Ukelele use Sanskrit-relevant diacritics in MS Word on the Ipad with Apple's smart keyboard: > "Sorry, but that's not possible. The iPad has a different keyboard > processing system to the Mac, so Mac keyboard layouts won't work with > iOS devices. As far as I know, you are limited to the keyboard layouts > available in the App Store. Keyman offers the widest variety, I think, > but developing a new keyboard is only possible with Keyman Developer, > which is Windows-only. But you might find what you need already out there." > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 2:32 PM wrote: > Hello, > > I have underestimated the submission process length, but in case you cannot > use keyboard or install software, I have made a simple online add-in for > Word/PowerPoint that you can use to enter the diacritics (unless your > organization disabled using Office add-ins). > > Windows and Mac: Go to Insert tab > Get Add-Ins and search for Indic > Online in browser: Go to Insert tab > Add-ins > Store and search for Indic > iPad: In landscape mode, go to Insert tab > Add-ins > All > search for Indic > > Add the add-in and you should get a taskpane with character buttons, see > http://apps.ujca.cz/IndicInputWebPane/ for a screenshot. > > It's not a great typing experience but better than nothing. > > Hope this helps, > Jan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: INDOLOGY On Behalf Of James > Hartzell via INDOLOGY > Sent: ?ter? 13. srpna 2019 7:41 > To: indology at list.indology.info > Subject: [INDOLOGY] Easy unicode for ipad? > > Hello > > Has anyone found a way to type Sanskrit diacritics in MS-Word on the Ipad? > > So far my attempts have been fruitless. > > Cheers > James > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > > -- > James Hartzell, PhD > Basque Center on Cognition, Brain and Language (BCBL), Donostia, Spain > Center for Mind/Brain Sciences (CIMeC), The University of Trento, Italy > Center for Buddhist Studies, Columbia University, USA > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > ? > ****************************************************************************************************************** > Experience the British Library online at www.bl.uk > > The British Library?s latest Annual Report and Accounts : www.bl.uk/aboutus/annrep/index.html > > Help the British Library conserve the world's knowledge. Adopt a Book. www.bl.uk/adoptabook > > The Library's St Pancras site is WiFi - enabled > > ***************************************************************************************************************** > > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the postmaster at bl.uk : The contents of this e-mail must not be disclosed or copied without the sender's consent. > > The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the British Library. The British Library does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. > > ***************************************************************************************************************** > Think before you print > > > -- > James Hartzell, PhD > Basque Center on Cognition, Brain and Language (BCBL), Donostia, Spain > Center for Mind/Brain Sciences (CIMeC), The University of Trento, Italy > Center for Buddhist Studies, Columbia University, USA > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:48:03 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:48:03 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Bhamati-text with Hindi translation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <26DBB997-DF33-4104-988C-781AA5528B80@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:44 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:43 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:40 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:38 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:32 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 18:43 schrieb Elliot Stern via INDOLOGY : > > Part 1 of a Hindi translation is available at archive.org: > > https://archive.org/details/BrahmaSutraShankaraBhashyaBhamatiVachaspatiBhamatiHindiVyakhyaSwamiYogindranandPart1Chowkambha_201806/page/n21 > > > > On Sep 23, 2019, at 9:09 AM, alakendu das via INDOLOGY wrote: > To all, Can anybody kindly let me know any version of Bachaspati Misra's "Bhamati' with Hindi translation. > Alakendu Das > > > > Sent from RediffmailNG on Android > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > Elliot M. Stern > 552 South 48th Street > Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029 > emstern1948 at gmail.com > 267-240-8418 > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de Mon Sep 23 17:48:18 2019 From: s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de (Shervin Farridnejad) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 19:48:18 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <19277F49-6B82-4621-8A17-3A689048B423@fu-berlin.de> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. Mit freundlichen Gr??en, Shervin Farridnejad ?????????????????????????????? Thank you for your mail. I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. Kind regards, Shervin Farridnejad Am 23.09.2019 um 19:44 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:41 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:39 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 23.09.2019 um 19:34 schrieb Shervin Farridnejad via INDOLOGY : > > > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Nachricht! Ich befinde mich derzeit au?er Haus und habe nur eingeschr?nkten E-Mail-Zugriff. Ich werde aber ab 23. Sep. 2019 wieder f?r Sie erreichbar. > > Aus Vertraulichkeitsgr?nden wurde Ihre E-Mail nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. Vielen Dank f?r Ihr Verst?ndnis. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > ?????????????????????????????? > Thank you for your mail. > > I will be working off site until 23rd September, with intermittent access to this email. I will respond to your email upon returning to the office. > > Kind regards, > > Shervin Farridnejad > > Am 19.09.2019 um 12:04 schrieb Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY : > > Cher Herman, > > in order to decrease your amount of "na?vet?", you might want to read the 1977 book written by ?. ??. ???????? (Na. V?. Ceyar?man) > for which the title is: > > ??????????? ????????? ?[Cilappatik?ra Y?ppamaiti] > [[Prosody in Silappathikaram]] > > Annamalai University publication > > This 516 pages book is the published version of a Ph.D. thesis > > I have a Xerox copy of this book thanks to a common friend of ours, who is also a member of this list. > > Meilleur souvenir > > -- Jean-Luc > > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > > > > On 19/09/2019 11:26, Tieken, H.J.H. wrote: > In my naivety I have always assumed that k?tai (from Skt g?th?) in the titles of the Cilappatik?ram is a translation of Tamil p???u, "song", as in Pattupp???u, which latter collection is made up of "long" poems like the Cilappatik?ram chapters and as such differs from, for instance, the Ku?untokai. > Herman > Herman Tieken > Stationsweg 58 > 2515 BP Den Haag > The Netherlands > 00 31 (0)70 2208127 > website: hermantieken.com > ________________________________________ > Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info] > Verzonden: donderdag 19 september 2019 10:18 > Aan: indology at list.indology.info > Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] Query on verse forms > Oops ... > I now see that I should have written > among the 30 > cantos of the CILAPPATIK?RAM (?????????????) > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silappatikaram > -- jl > On 19/09/2019 10:08, Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY wrote: > Cher Matthew, > > For the record, you might be interested to know that, among the 30 > cantos of the ????????????? > > 21 are called k?tai (????) > 4 are called vari (???) > 2 are called kuravai (?????) > 2 are called m?lai (????) > 1 is called p??al (?????) > > On page 864 of the Madras Tamil Lexicon, you can read the following > > ????? (p. 864) k?tai ????? k?tai , n. < g?th?. 1. Poem; ??????. (???.) 2. > Division of a poem containing a narrative; ???????????? ?????. (?????. ???. > 63, ???.) > > In a similar manner, > the 30 cantos of the Ma?im?kalai (????????) are all called k?tai (????) > > I hope this is useful > > Meilleurs voeux > > -- Jean-Luc > > https://twitter.com/JLC1956 > > https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard > > > > On 19/09/2019 00:41, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear friends, > > I would be grateful for recommendations of works addressing the manner > in which the term g?th? is understood in connection with MIA verse, > and analogously on doh? in connection with apabhraMza ?and NIA verse. > I am particularly looking for works dealing with formal features > including meter, rhyme etc. > > with thanks in advance, > Matthew > > Get Outlook for iOS > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options > or unsubscribe) > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com Mon Sep 23 20:20:22 2019 From: hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com (Harry Spier) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 19 16:20:22 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Problem with Indology list postings. Message-ID: With every indology list posting I receive, I am now also receiving multiple emails (between 5 and 45 emails) from Shervin Farridnejad << s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de> These are in german but appear to be an automatic out of office message. Harry Spier -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Greg.Bailey at latrobe.edu.au Tue Sep 24 08:16:26 2019 From: Greg.Bailey at latrobe.edu.au (Greg Bailey) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 19 08:16:26 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] new book Message-ID: Dear Colleagues, At the risk of shameless self promotion I wish to announce the publication of a novel I have written. In Search of Bliss. A Tale of Early Buddhism, (Vanguard, Cambridge, HK) It is being released tomorrow and can be obtained from most large booksellers. https://www.bookdepository.com/Search-Bliss-Tale-Early-Buddhism-Greg-Bailey/9781784655952?ref=grid-view&qid=1569137156647&sr=1-2 https://www.amazon.com/Search-Bliss-Tale-Early-Buddhism-ebook/dp/B07XPB59KR/ref=sr_1_16?keywords=Greg+Bailey&qid=1569312623&s=books&sr=1-16 It is a fictional work detailing search for details about the Buddha?s cousin, Ananda, eight hundred years after the Buddha?s parinirvana. Some of you may be interested in it. Cheers, Greg Bailey -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mrinal ------ *Mrinal Kaul, Ph.D.* Assistant Professor - Manipal Centre for Humanities (MCH) Coordinator - Centre for Religious Studies (CRS) Dr TMA Pai Planetarium Complex Alevoor Road, Manipal 576 104 Karnataka, INDIA Tel +91-820-29-23567 Extn: 23567 https://iuo.academia.edu/MrinalKaul email: mrinal.kaul@ stx.oxon.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martingansten at gmail.com Tue Sep 24 14:16:02 2019 From: martingansten at gmail.com (Martin Gansten) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 19 16:16:02 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] About "bha-graha" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I am not entirely sure either, as I am not familiar with the text, but from the surrounding verses (as found on GRETIL ) the context seems to be instructions for determining the most suitable time for one or more rituals (that is, muh?rta??stra: electional or katarchic astrology). Verse 45 has bhagrahau, making it probable that the compound should be understood as a dvandva throughout. In that case, bha is probably a synonym of nak?atra or asterism ('zodiacal sign' would be another possibility, but I don't see the twelve signs mentioned at all, and the nak?atras are typically much used in muh?rta), and graha means 'planet'. But what planet is meant, or what it is supposed to be doing, is not clear to me. As I said, I haven't studied the text, just looked at the section immediately surrounding the verse you asked about. Martin Gansten Den 2019-09-24 kl. 11:40, skrev Mrinal Kaul via INDOLOGY: > Dear Friends, > > In the following verse of the /Tantr?loka/ (28.42cd-43ab) of > Abhinavagupta, I do not completely understand the expression > /*bha-graha*/. The only thing I am sure is that this has to do with > Jyoti?a. > > *bhagraha*samayavi?e?o n??vayuje ko 'pi tena tadvarjam | > vel?*bhagraha*kalan? kathitaik?da?asu m?se?u || > > Can someone guide me? I apologise for being illiterate?in Jyoti?a and > I did not get?much help?from the obvious basic sources either. I hope > I am not missing something very basic. > > Thanks very much in advance. > > Mrinal > ------ > *Mrinal Kaul, Ph.D.* > Assistant Professor - Manipal Centre for Humanities (MCH) > Coordinator - Centre for Religious Studies (CRS) > Dr TMA Pai Planetarium Complex > Alevoor Road, Manipal 576 104 > Karnataka, INDIA > Tel +91-820-29-23567 Extn: 23567 > https://iuo.academia.edu/MrinalKaul > email: mrinal.kaul@ stx.oxon.org > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In that case, bha is probably a synonym > of nak?atra or asterism ('zodiacal sign' would be another possibility, > This agrees with whats written in "Ancient Indian Astronomical Terms and Their Interpretations in the Light of Modern Astronomy" by Arupratan Bhattacharya For bha he has "see dhi??ya" and for dhi??ya he has: "Asterism; lunar mansion; synonym naksatra (c.w. bha) Harry Spier > > Den 2019-09-24 kl. 11:40, skrev Mrinal Kaul via INDOLOGY: > > Dear Friends, > > In the following verse of the *Tantr?loka* (28.42cd-43ab) of > Abhinavagupta, I do not completely understand the expression *bha-graha*. > The only thing I am sure is that this has to do with Jyoti?a. > > *bhagraha*samayavi?e?o n??vayuje ko 'pi tena tadvarjam | > vel?*bhagraha*kalan? kathitaik?da?asu m?se?u || > > Can someone guide me? I apologise for being illiterate in Jyoti?a and I > did not get much help from the obvious basic sources either. I hope I am > not missing something very basic. > > Thanks very much in advance. > > Mrinal > ------ > *Mrinal Kaul, Ph.D.* > Assistant Professor - Manipal Centre for Humanities (MCH) > Coordinator - Centre for Religious Studies (CRS) > Dr TMA Pai Planetarium Complex > Alevoor Road, Manipal 576 104 > Karnataka, INDIA > Tel +91-820-29-23567 Extn: 23567 > https://iuo.academia.edu/MrinalKaul > email: mrinal.kaul@ stx.oxon.org > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing listINDOLOGY at list.indology.infoindology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee)http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In the *Tantr?loka* 28 and the commentary titled Vivek thereupon by Jayaratha there are expressions like ' *bhagrah?dy?tmana?*' (Viveka on 28.35) where he also quotes a verse that reads '*bhagrahasamayavi?e?a?*.....'. 28.40ab reads '..... *bhagrah?dy?tmakatv?t* *vi?e?ar?patvameva* |' In 28.42cd Jayaratha begins with a question '*nanu kasm?d atra ??vayuje m?si bhagrah?diyogi nokta*....|' to which Abhinavagupta is supposed to have replied '*bhagrahasamayavi?e?o*.....|' 28.46cd also reads '*dinavel?bhagrahakalpanena*....|' 28.47cd has ' *bhagrahatithi?'* and in 28.49cd Jayaratha quotes from the *B?hatsa?hit?* 4.4 and concludes after a short discussion there saying *s? hi tithir ucyate y? bhagrahai? sphu??bhavati.* Again, 28.51d has *tithibhagrahayogata?* and 28.52a has *bhagrahayog?bh?ve tithi?*. I think Prof Gnoli also translated the expression as 'asterismi'. I think I have some clarity now, but it would be nice if some expert is able to throw more light, may be from Jyoti?a texts. Many thanks and best wishes. Mrinal ------ *Mrinal Kaul, Ph.D.* Assistant Professor - Manipal Centre for Humanities (MCH) Coordinator - Centre for Religious Studies (CRS) Dr TMA Pai Planetarium Complex Alevoor Road, Manipal 576 104 Karnataka, INDIA Tel +91-820-29-23567 Extn: 23567 https://iuo.academia.edu/MrinalKaul email: mrinal.kaul@ stx.oxon.org On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 19:46, Martin Gansten via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > I am not entirely sure either, as I am not familiar with the text, but > from the surrounding verses (as found on GRETIL > ) > the context seems to be instructions for determining the most suitable time > for one or more rituals (that is, muh?rta??stra: electional or katarchic > astrology). Verse 45 has bhagrahau, making it probable that the compound > should be understood as a dvandva throughout. In that case, bha is probably > a synonym of nak?atra or asterism ('zodiacal sign' would be another > possibility, but I don't see the twelve signs mentioned at all, and the > nak?atras are typically much used in muh?rta), and graha means 'planet'. > But what planet is meant, or what it is supposed to be doing, is not clear > to me. As I said, I haven't studied the text, just looked at the section > immediately surrounding the verse you asked about. > > Martin Gansten > > Den 2019-09-24 kl. 11:40, skrev Mrinal Kaul via INDOLOGY: > > Dear Friends, > > In the following verse of the *Tantr?loka* (28.42cd-43ab) of > Abhinavagupta, I do not completely understand the expression *bha-graha*. > The only thing I am sure is that this has to do with Jyoti?a. > > *bhagraha*samayavi?e?o n??vayuje ko 'pi tena tadvarjam | > vel?*bhagraha*kalan? kathitaik?da?asu m?se?u || > > Can someone guide me? I apologise for being illiterate in Jyoti?a and I > did not get much help from the obvious basic sources either. I hope I am > not missing something very basic. > > Thanks very much in advance. > > Mrinal > ------ > *Mrinal Kaul, Ph.D.* > Assistant Professor - Manipal Centre for Humanities (MCH) > Coordinator - Centre for Religious Studies (CRS) > Dr TMA Pai Planetarium Complex > Alevoor Road, Manipal 576 104 > Karnataka, INDIA > Tel +91-820-29-23567 Extn: 23567 > https://iuo.academia.edu/MrinalKaul > email: mrinal.kaul@ stx.oxon.org > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing listINDOLOGY at list.indology.infoindology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee)http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But graha is not a calendric element, and I am not sure what precisely it means here. Best wishes, Martin Den 2019-09-24 kl. 18:05, skrev Mrinal Kaul: > Dear Prof Gansten, > > Thanks very much for your email. Indeed the discussion is about > determining the most suitable time for following certain rituals. But > I am curious about "/bha/" that is prefixed to '/graha/'. In the > /Tantr?loka/28 and the commentary titled Vivek thereupon by Jayaratha > there are expressions like '/*bha*grah?dy?tmana?/' (Viveka on 28.35) > where he also quotes a verse that reads > '/*bha*grahasamayavi?e?a?/.....'. 28.40ab reads > '...../*bha*grah?dy?tmakatv?t/ /vi?e?ar?patvameva/|' In 28.42cd > Jayaratha begins with a question '/nanu kasm?d atra ??vayuje m?si > *bha*grah?diyogi nokta/....|' to which Abhinavagupta is supposed to > have replied '/*bha*grahasamayavi?e?o/.....|' 28.46cd also reads > '/dinavel?*bha*grahakalpanena/....|' 28.47cd has > '/*bha*grahatithi?'/and in 28.49cd Jayaratha quotes from the > /B?hatsa?hit?/ 4.4 and concludes after a short discussion there saying > /s? hi tithir ucyate y? *bha*grahai? sphu??bhavati./?Again, 28.51d has > /tithi*bha*grahayogata?/and 28.52a has /*bha*grahayog?bh?ve tithi?/. > > I think Prof Gnoli also translated the expression as 'asterismi'. 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Those in the DC area on October 2 are most welcome to visit -- and the welcome certainly extends to all list members to visit the Asian Reading Room whenever your travels bring you through DC. For details and collection highlights on display on 10/2, please see the Library of Congress press release: https://www.loc.gov/item/prn-19-095/library-to-mark-150th-anniversary-of-mahatma-gandhis-birth-with-display-of-special-collections/2019-09-24/. The event flyer is also attached as a jpeg. Ahead of this event, the Library of Congress digitized its handwritten draft of Mahatma Gandhi?s essay ?A Common Platform," which bears the signature ?M.K. Gandhi? on page six. This draft is viewable online ( https://www.loc.gov/item/2002531352) and discussed in more detail in a recent blog post ( https://blogs.loc.gov/international-collections/2019/09/now-online-handwritten-draft-of-essay-a-common-platform-by-mahatma-gandhi/ ). Kind regards, Jon Jonathan Loar, Ph.D. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ South Asia Reference Librarian Asian Division, Library of Congress jloa at loc.gov (202) 707-3417 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ LibGuide: South Asian Manuscripts at the Library of Congress 4 Corners of the World Blog and its South Asia content International Collections Facebook Page [image: LC display, Mahatma Gandhi 150th birth anniversary.jpg] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: LCdisplayMahatmaGandhi150thbirthanniversary.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 813587 bytes Desc: not available URL: From wujastyk at gmail.com Tue Sep 24 19:58:13 2019 From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 19 12:58:13 -0700 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Problem with Indology list postings. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I stopped these yesterday as soon as I discovered what was happening (thanks to Seth Powell!). On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 at 13:21, Harry Spier via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > With every indology list posting I receive, I am now also receiving > multiple emails (between 5 and 45 emails) from Shervin Farridnejad << > s.farridnejad at fu-berlin.de> > > These are in german but appear to be an automatic out of office message. > > Harry Spier > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks in advance, McComas Taylor [cid:5757e550-14fe-4f44-a404-3e2d44fa05fc] McComas Taylor Associate Professor Reader in Sanskrit College of Asia and the Pacific The Australian National University WSC Website| McC Website Tel: +61 2 6125 3179 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From psdmccartney at gmail.com Wed Sep 25 04:00:34 2019 From: psdmccartney at gmail.com (patrick mccartney) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 19 13:00:34 +0900 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_p=C4=81=E1=B9=87=E1=B8=8Davas_=3D_cakras=3F?= Message-ID: Dear Friends, does anyone know specifically in the BhG where the comparison of the P???avas occurs with each relevant cakra? I've just read through a bunch of websites and blogs and youtube videos by prominent gurus and other less prominent people. But, none actually mention any specific verses. They just say either the MBh or the BhG is the source. It seems odd, didn't the cakra system develop well after either of these texts were composed? That would make it kind of hard for them to include talk of cakras, etc, no? Particularly the neo-Romantic, new agey way of describing the virtues and psycho-dynamic qualities of each cakra and what they symbolize. I've gone through the BhG from Gretil, also looking for tattvas or any similar word that might help. I just can't seem to spot where this is mentioned. Is it? Am I blind? Or is this is much later interpolation linking the brothers, Draupadi, Krishna, etc to various metaphysical locations? If you are curious, here is one example of the description in Hind i. (Shown below). This is also an English description by AoL . ????? ??? ??? ?????? ???????, ??????? ???? ?? ?? ??? ???????? ?? ????? ?? ???? ???, ???? ??????????? ???? ??????? ?? ????, ?????? ????? ?? ????????? ???? ??? ??????? ?????? ????, ??? ???? ???? ?????? ????? ???? ?? ?? ??????? ???? ?? ????? ???? ?? ????????? ????????? ???? ???? ??????? ???? ?? ????? ????? ?????? ?? ???? ?? ?? ?????????? ????? ??????? ?? ???? ??? ?????? ???????????? ?? ??????????????? ??????? ????? ?? ??????? ?? ??? ??? ???? ???? ????? ??? ????????? ????? ???? ???? ?????? ?????? ?? ?? ??????????? ????? ????????? ??? ??? ? ???? ??? ????? ?? ?? ??????? ??? ??????? ?? ??? ???? ?? ?? ???????? ?? ??? ?? ????? ?? ??????? ????? ?? If this is just another factoid floating around Yogaland, does anyone know when this idea might have first been generated? Thanks. All the best, ????? ??????? 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I would therefore be grateful to anyone who could help me put a name to the artist who painted this portrait of Sylvain L?vi.Roland Lardinois, National Center for Scientific Research (CNRS), Center for South Asian Studies, EHESS, Paris (roland.lardinois at gmail.com) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: L?viPortraitpeint1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 6225 bytes Desc: not available URL: From soni at staff.uni-marburg.de Wed Sep 25 08:14:11 2019 From: soni at staff.uni-marburg.de (soni at staff.uni-marburg.de) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 19 10:14:11 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] IASS Honorary Research Fellowship Message-ID: <20190925101411.Horde.9_1LsB2cjD0xtXoohIuRxL5@home.staff.uni-marburg.de> Dear Colleagues and Friends, In 2019 the International Association of Sanskrit Tradition initiated this Fellowship and it is a pleasure now to announce it again for 2020. Any paying member of the IASS (International Association of Sanskrit Studies) is eligible for the HRF, if the scholar has received a PhD in Sanskrit or allied studies in the last five years. The HRF is for research work to be conducted in South Asia for a period of at least two weeks in any field related to Sanskrit and allied studies. The DEADLINE for the written project proposal is 31 DECEMBER 2019. The honorary research fellowship, valued at 1000 Euros, will be announced annually, providing the IASS budget is able to sustain the expense. (The award was initiated in 2019 and the first winner was Dr Lauren Bausch, Dharma Realm Buddhist University, for her proposal on the ?Vedic philosophy of language according to the Br?hma?a texts?.) NOTE: Please send all proposals and/or queries to Associate Professor McComas Taylor of the IASS: McComas.Taylor at anu.edu.au See the details here: http://www.sanskritassociation.org/images/pdf/IASS-Honorary-Research-Fellowship.pdf Thank you. J. Soni Secretary General of the IASS The website of the IASS: http://www.sanskritassociation.org/index.php See under Awards for other awards -- From soni at staff.uni-marburg.de Wed Sep 25 08:19:36 2019 From: soni at staff.uni-marburg.de (soni at staff.uni-marburg.de) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 19 10:19:36 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] IASS Honorary Research Fellowship In-Reply-To: <20190925101411.Horde.9_1LsB2cjD0xtXoohIuRxL5@home.staff.uni-marburg.de> Message-ID: <20190925101936.Horde.4ztPn9NuqnfKch5rgddrOMz@home.staff.uni-marburg.de> For International Association of Sanskrit Tradition please read: International Association of Sanskrit Studies ----- Message from Jayandra Soni via INDOLOGY --------- Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 10:14:11 +0200 From: Jayandra Soni via INDOLOGY Reply-To: soni at staff.uni-marburg.de Subject: [INDOLOGY] IASS Honorary Research Fellowship To: indology , INDOLOGIE , risa-l > Dear Colleagues and Friends, > In 2019 the International Association of Sanskrit Tradition > initiated this Fellowship and it is a pleasure now to announce it > again for 2020. > > Any paying member of the IASS (International Association of Sanskrit > Studies) is eligible for the HRF, if the scholar has received a PhD > in Sanskrit or allied studies in the last five years. > > The HRF is for research work to be conducted in South Asia for a > period of at least two weeks in any field related to Sanskrit and > allied studies. > > The DEADLINE for the written project proposal is 31 DECEMBER 2019. > > The honorary research fellowship, valued at 1000 Euros, will be > announced annually, providing the IASS budget is able to sustain the > expense. > (The award was initiated in 2019 and the first winner was Dr Lauren > Bausch, Dharma Realm Buddhist University, for her proposal on the > ?Vedic philosophy of language according to the Br?hma?a texts?.) > > NOTE: > Please send all proposals and/or queries to Associate Professor > McComas Taylor of the IASS: > McComas.Taylor at anu.edu.au > See the details here: > http://www.sanskritassociation.org/images/pdf/IASS-Honorary-Research-Fellowship.pdf > > Thank you. > J. Soni > Secretary General of the IASS > The website of the IASS: > http://www.sanskritassociation.org/index.php > See under Awards for other awards > > > -- > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list > options or unsubscribe) ----- End message from Jayandra Soni via INDOLOGY ----- -- From j.jurewicz at uw.edu.pl Wed Sep 25 11:50:59 2019 From: j.jurewicz at uw.edu.pl (Joanna Jurewicz) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 19 13:50:59 +0200 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_p=C4=81=E1=B9=87=E1=B8=8Davas_=3D_cakras=3F?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Patrick, You are not blind. There is nothing like this in the BhG. I would dare to say that in the whole MBh it cannot be found. Best, Joanna --- Prof. dr hab. Joanna Jurewicz Katedra Azji Po?udniowej /Chair of South Asia Wydzia? Orientalistyczny / Faculty of Oriental Studies Uniwersytet Warszawski /University of Warsaw ul. Krakowskie Przedmie?cie 26/28 00-927 Warszawa , Poland Department of Linguistics and Modern Languages College of Human Sciences UNISA Pretoria, RPA Member of Academia Europaea https://uw.academia.edu/JoannaJurewicz ?r., 25 wrz 2019 o 06:01 patrick mccartney via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> napisa?(a): > Dear Friends, > > does anyone know specifically in the BhG where the comparison of the > P???avas occurs with each relevant cakra? I've just read through a bunch of > websites and blogs and youtube videos by prominent gurus and other less > prominent people. But, none actually mention any specific verses. They just > say either the MBh or the BhG is the source. It seems odd, didn't the cakra > system develop well after either of these texts were composed? That would > make it kind of hard for them to include talk of cakras, etc, no? > Particularly the neo-Romantic, new agey way of describing the virtues and > psycho-dynamic qualities of each cakra and what they symbolize. > > I've gone through the BhG from Gretil, also looking for tattvas or any > similar word that might help. I just can't seem to spot where this is > mentioned. Is it? Am I blind? Or is this is much later interpolation > linking the brothers, Draupadi, Krishna, etc to various metaphysical > locations? If you are curious, here is one example of the description in > Hind i. (Shown below). This is also > an English description by AoL > > . > > ????? ??? ??? ?????? ???????, ??????? ???? ?? ?? ??? ???????? ?? ????? > ?? ???? ???, ???? ??????????? ???? ??????? ?? ????, ?????? ????? ?? > ????????? ???? ??? ??????? ?????? ????, ??? ???? ???? ?????? ????? ???? > ?? ?? ??????? ???? ?? ????? ???? ?? ????????? ????????? ???? ???? ??????? > ???? ?? ????? ????? ?????? ?? ???? ?? ?? ?????????? ????? ??????? ?? ???? > ??? ?????? ???????????? ?? ??????????????? ??????? ????? ?? ??????? ?? ??? > ??? ???? ???? ????? ??? ????????? ????? ???? ???? ?????? ?????? ?? ?? > ??????????? ????? ????????? ??? ??? ? ???? ??? ????? ?? ?? ??????? ??? > ??????? ?? ??? ???? ?? ?? ???????? ?? ??? ?? ????? ?? ??????? ????? ?? > > If this is just another factoid floating around Yogaland, does anyone know > when this idea might have first been generated? > > Thanks. > > All the best, > > ????? ??????? > Patrick McCartney, PhD > JSPS Fellow - Graduate School of Global Environmental Studies, Kyoto > University, Japan > Research Associate - Nanzan University Anthropological Institute, Nagoya, > Japan > Research Affiliate - Organization for Identity and Cultural Development > (OICD), Kyoto > Visiting Fellow - South and South-east Asian Studies Department, Australian > National University > Member - South Asia Research Institute (SARI), Australian National > University > > Skype / Zoom - psdmccartney > Phone + Whatsapp + Line: +81-80-9811-3235 > Twitter - @psdmccartney @yogascapesinjap > Yogascapes in Japan Academia > Linkedin > > Modern Yoga Research > > *bodhap?rvam calema* ;-) > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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All best wishes, Toke ----- Toke Lindegaard Knudsen, Ph.D. Associate Professor Department of Mathematics, Computer Science, and Statistics State University of New York at Oneonta Affiliated Researcher Department of Cross-Cultural and Regional Studies University of Copenhagen From mkapstei at uchicago.edu Thu Sep 26 10:25:54 2019 From: mkapstei at uchicago.edu (Matthew Kapstein) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 19 10:25:54 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Book search Message-ID: Dear friends, Might a pdf of Nilratan Sen, Early Eastern NIA Versification, 1973?, be available somewhere? The archive.org file is either defective or was removed. Thanks in advance, Matthew Kapstein Get Outlook for iOS -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Rosati* *PhD in Asian and African Studies(South Asia Section)Italian Institute of Oriental Studies 'Sapienza' University of Rome* *https://uniroma1.academia.edu/PaoloRosati/ * paoloe.rosati at gmail.com Mobile/Whatsapp: (+39) 338 73 83 472 Skype: paoloe.rosati -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paoloe.rosati at gmail.com Thu Sep 26 15:10:56 2019 From: paoloe.rosati at gmail.com (Paolo Eugenio Rosati) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 19 17:10:56 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Article request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thank you to Lubomir Ondracka and James Pierce for helping me! Best, Paolo Il giorno gio 26 set 2019 alle ore 14:44 Paolo Eugenio Rosati < paoloe.rosati at gmail.com> ha scritto: > Dear all, > > I am looking for a copy of > > Glen A. Hayes. 2012. ?Conceptual Blending Theory, ?Reverse Amnesia,? and > the Study of Tantra.? The Journal of Hindu Studies 5: 193?209. > > Best, > -- > *Paolo E. Rosati* > > > > *PhD in Asian and African Studies(South Asia Section)Italian Institute of > Oriental Studies 'Sapienza' University of Rome* > > *https://uniroma1.academia.edu/PaoloRosati/ > * > paoloe.rosati at gmail.com > Mobile/Whatsapp: (+39) 338 73 83 472 > Skype: paoloe.rosati > -- *Paolo E. Rosati* *PhD in Asian and African Studies(South Asia Section)Italian Institute of Oriental Studies ?'Sapienza' University of Rome* *https://uniroma1.academia.edu/PaoloRosati/ * paoloe.rosati at gmail.com Mobile/Whatsapp: (+39) 338 73 83 472 Skype: paoloe.rosati -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rsalomon at uw.edu Fri Sep 27 21:27:49 2019 From: rsalomon at uw.edu (Richard G. Salomon) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 19 14:27:49 -0700 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Position in Buddhist Studies at University of Washington Message-ID: Dear list members, Please bring this opportunity to the attention of any qualified persons: *ASSISTANT PROFESSOR*, Department of Asian Languages and Literature, University of Washington, Seattle, beginning Autumn, 2020. This tenure-track appointment, full-time appointment (9-month service period) is in Buddhist Studies with a focus on original language textual studies. University of Washington faculty engage in research, teaching, and service. Given the tradition of the Department of Asian Languages and Literature in the area of Indian/South Asian Buddhism, research and teaching areas may include Indian/South Asian Buddhism and texts in original languages such as Sanskrit and Pali or other Prakrits. Teaching duties will include offerings at the undergraduate and graduate levels, in addition to instruction in the languages relevant to the applicant?s area of research. Undergraduate offerings will include general courses on Buddhist literature and related areas as well as on more specialized topics. At the graduate level, offerings will include seminars on specific issues or texts and in-depth text-reading classes that may reflect the applicant?s specific areas of research specialization. *Qualifications * Applicants must demonstrate a strong record of research and teaching in the field of Buddhist Studies as well as a high level of command of one or more of the major languages of the Buddhist tradition. Applicants must have a PhD, or foreign equivalent degree, by the date of appointment. *Application Instructions * Applications, including a cover letter, curriculum vitae, statement of research and teaching interests, a diversity statement, and three letters of recommendation, should be submitted electronically to apply.interfolio.com/66398. For further questions on the position, the status of the opening, or disability accommodations, contact Prof. Collett Cox at collett at uw.edu. Priority will be given to applications received before *December 1, 2019*. The University of Washington is an affirmative action and equal opportunity employer. All qualified applicants will receive consideration for employment without regard to race, color, creed, religion, national origin, sex, sexual orientation, marital status, pregnancy, genetic information, gender identity or expression, age, disability, or protected veteran status. The University of Washington is committed to building diversity among its faculty, librarian, staff, and student communities, and articulates that commitment in the UW Diversity Blueprint ( http://www.washington.edu/diversity/diversity-blueprint/). Additionally, the University?s Faculty Code recognizes faculty efforts in research, teaching and/or service that address diversity and equal opportunity as important contributions to a faculty member?s academic profile and responsibilities ( https://www.washington.edu/admin/rules/policies/FCG/FCCH24.html#2432). *ASSISTANT PROFESSOR*, Department of Asian Languages and Literature, University of Washington, Seattle, beginning Autumn, 2020. This tenure-track appointment, full-time appointment (9-month service period) is in Buddhist Studies with a focus on original language textual studies. University of Washington faculty engage in research, teaching, and service. Given the tradition of the Department of Asian Languages and Literature in the area of Indian/South Asian Buddhism, research and teaching areas may include Indian/South Asian Buddhism and texts in original languages such as Sanskrit and Pali or other Prakrits. Teaching duties will include offerings at the undergraduate and graduate levels, in addition to instruction in the languages relevant to the applicant?s area of research. Undergraduate offerings will include general courses on Buddhist literature and related areas as well as on more specialized topics. At the graduate level, offerings will include seminars on specific issues or texts and in-depth text-reading classes that may reflect the applicant?s specific areas of research specialization. *Qualifications * Applicants must demonstrate a strong record of research and teaching in the field of Buddhist Studies as well as a high level of command of one or more of the major languages of the Buddhist tradition. Applicants must have a PhD, or foreign equivalent degree, by the date of appointment. *Application Instructions * Applications, including a cover letter, curriculum vitae, statement of research and teaching interests, a diversity statement, and three letters of recommendation, should be submitted electronically to apply.interfolio.com/66398. For further questions on the position, the status of the opening, or disability accommodations, contact Prof. Collett Cox at collett at uw.edu. Priority will be given to applications received before *December 1, 2019*. The University of Washington is an affirmative action and equal opportunity employer. All qualified applicants will receive consideration for employment without regard to race, color, creed, religion, national origin, sex, sexual orientation, marital status, pregnancy, genetic information, gender identity or expression, age, disability, or protected veteran status. 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Kindest wishes, Martin On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 10:39 AM Martin Gluckman > wrote: Here is what I have so far thank you: 1.Sankara?s Brahma-sutra-bhasya for the superb prose style and clarity. 2. Bha??ik?vya: "I love grammar, I love pedagogy, and I love poetry, and so an epic didactic poem about grammar is just the bee's knees for me." Kindest wishes, Martin On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 5:36 PM Martin Gluckman > wrote: Dear Colleagues, I have a lecture to prepare and am conducting a short survey: I would like to know from the Sanskrit scholarly community what those feel are the utmost most excellent works from the entire corpora and a short line about why. Think of it as "if there were to be a Pullitzer or Booker Prize for the notable Sanskrit works", who and what would be the nominees and why. It could be a text that was of exceptional technical value for example P??ini's A???dhy?y? or those that have introduced a novel method in a field of science for example the Su?rutasa?hit?. 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Valerie J Roebuck Manchester, UK > On 29 Sep 2019, at 14:39, Martin Gluckman via INDOLOGY wrote: > > Two further submissions received to add to the list (thank you to all who have responded): > > 1.Mahabharata for its general and omnipresent influence on all kinds of cultural and literary creativity. > > 2.Pin?gala?s Chandah?s?a?stra with its technically varied breakdown of Ancient Indian metres & metrics, being as intricate as intriguing. > > From my side I would add the Caraka Sa?hit? for its detail and depth touching upon virtually every aspect of life (from birth to death) and giving us a deep insight into general life at the time of its compilation and the Pa?catantra for its brilliance and ubiquity. > > Kindest wishes, > > Martin > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 10:39 AM Martin Gluckman > wrote: > Here is what I have so far thank you: > > 1.Sankara?s Brahma-sutra-bhasya for the superb prose style and clarity. > > 2. Bha??ik?vya: "I love grammar, I love pedagogy, and I love poetry, and so an epic didactic poem about grammar is just the bee's knees for me." > > Kindest wishes, > > Martin > > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 5:36 PM Martin Gluckman > wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > I have a lecture to prepare and am conducting a short survey: > > I would like to know from the Sanskrit scholarly community what those feel are the utmost most excellent works from the entire corpora and a short line about why. > > Think of it as "if there were to be a Pullitzer or Booker Prize for the notable Sanskrit works", who and what would be the nominees and why. > > It could be a text that was of exceptional technical value for example P??ini's A???dhy?y? or those that have introduced a novel method in a field of science for example the Su?rutasa?hit?. Then of course a notable poetic marvel such as ?akuntal?. > > If there exist some already compiled lists of the same I would most appreciate it. > > With warmest wishes, > > Martin > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This authorised and regularly updated text is available only via the web pagehttp://bombay.indology.info/mahabharata/statement.html. Please do not provide copies of the text to others. In other words, help yourself, but only from that Bombay website. This is why the Puna Mbh has never been offered through SARIT. The text at SARIT is the 1906-1910 edition from Nirnayasagara Press, Bombay, "A New Edition Mainly Based on the South Indian Texts, with Footnotes and Readings." I'm fully aware that the Pune Mbh has long ago escaped into the wild and is offered everywhere. I think that's a wonderful thing for scholarship (though bad for version control). But it does not reflect the wishes of BORI. I'm just sayin' Best, Dominik -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: