Re: [INDOLOGY] Name of kāli in ādyākālikāstotram

Harry Spier hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com
Fri Oct 25 23:04:44 UTC 2019


Dear Michael,

I did find this website "Shri Krishna as Kali"
http://www.shivashakti.com/krishna.htm by Mike McGee that says " . . .In
places in the tantrik tradition, the Krishna avatar of Vishnu is often
identified with Kali.  This reaches a peak in the Tantrajajatantra, where
it is said that having already charmed the world of men as herself, Lalita
took a male form as Krishna and then proceeded to enchant women.  . . . In
the Todala Tantra, each of the ten Mahavidyas, forms of the supreme
Goddess, has her own male counterpart and here Krishna is said to be the
spouse of Kali
...

He also shows a victorian print of Radha worshipping Krishna as Kali.

Can someone say if this information is accurate.

Thanks,
Harry Spier

Thanks,
Harry Spier



On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 6:33 PM Allen, Michael S (msa2b) via INDOLOGY <
indology at list.indology.info> wrote:

> P.S. Or perhaps *kṛṣṇa *is simply an epithet for a dark/black form of
> Śiva/Bhairava, parallel to *kṛṣṇā *just before it in the verse.
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> Dear Mr. Spier,
>
> Could it perhaps be a reference to Kṛṣṇānanda Āgamavāgīśa, the Tāntrika?
> See, e.g., *Encountering Kālī, *ed. McDermott and Kripal, p. 54.
>
> Best wishes,
> Michael
>
> Michael S. Allen
> Assistant Professor
> Dept. of Religious Studies
> University of Virginia
>
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> *Subject:* [INDOLOGY] Name of kāli in ādyākālikāstotram
>
> Dear list members,
>
> In verse 3 of the ādyākālikāstotram (hundred names of Kali)
>
> kṛpāmayī kṛpādhārā kṛpāpārā kṛpāgamā |
>
> kṛśānuḥ kapilā kṛṣṇā kṛṣṇānandavivarddhinī || 3 ||
>
>
> I've seen kṛṣṇānandavivarddhinī translated as "the one who increases the
> bliss of Krishna", but it seemed strange to me that the god Krishna would
> be mentioned in a hymn to Kali (or is it?).  Are there other translations
> of  kṛṣṇānandavivarddhinī that would  make more sense in this context?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Harry Spier
>
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