[INDOLOGY] [Archiving Open Access publications] Re: question about a soliciation from publisher MDPI

Wed Mar 27 23:38:23 UTC 2019

Dear Jonathan,

With the agreement of authors and editors, all monographs, editions
and proceedings that I publish will be available in an Open Access
edition to coincide with the initial print release.

It is relatively easy to ensure the long term availability of the Open
Access edition. Both physical and electronic copies are deposited --
Legal Deposit-- with the National Library of New Zealand.

The upshot, for example, is that this recently published edition is
available to borrow or to download:

Gaffney, Sean (2018) sKyes pa rabs kyi gleṅ gźi (Jātakanidāna): a
critical edition based on six editions of the Tibetan bKa' 'gyur.
Indica et Buddhica Jātakanidāna, v. 1. Oxford: Indica et Buddhica
Publishers.

Borrow:

http://bit.ly/2Ywyg9U

https://natlib-primo.hosted.exlibrisgroup.com/primo-explore/fulldisplay
?docid=NLNZ_ALMA21311447700002836&context=L&vid=NLNZ&search_scope=NLNZ&
tab=catalogue&lang=en_US

Download:

http://bit.ly/2FDVSki

https://natlib-primo.hosted.exlibrisgroup.com/primo-explore/fulldisplay
?docid=NLNZ_ALMA21311447560002836&context=L&vid=NLNZ&search_scope=NLNZ&
tab=catalogue&lang=en_US

Best, Richard

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Silk via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info>
Reply-to: Jonathan Silk <kauzeya at gmail.com>
To: Dan Lusthaus <prajnapti at gmail.com>
Cc: Indology <indology at list.indology.info>
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] question about a soliciation from publisher
MDPI
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2019 01:03:46 +0200

Dear Dan
I hope I am not seen as a shill for publishers, but I would like to
point out that what you say is not quite right. How are contributions
to be found? How is their continued presence to be assured? How are
materials to be distributed? There are many more questions like this
that your brief explanation omits, but that are vital. All of us have
experienced multiple times a 404 message when following a link to an
article or contribution of interest. If we want our publications to
last, this is not a viable model. This statement is not a positive
assertion of what is in fact the optimal model, but it does point out a
weakness in your questioning. I think that there are some viable
options out there, but it's not nearly as simple as you suggest.
Jonathan

On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 7:11 PM Dan Lusthaus via INDOLOGY <indology at lis
t.indology.info> wrote:
> While on that subject, our entire profession is fiscally backward. It
> is not just in regard to publications. Would a carpenter or plumber
> pay you to come to your house to build or fix something? But we pay
> hefty fees to go to conferences to present our research. Soon we will
> all be paying to publish our work through “reputable” media.
> 
> As for publishers, profit is necessary to stay in business, so as
> hardcopies become increasingly vestigial, and free online material
> increasingly available, who is the profit going to come from? And the
> “free” part of online access is soon to disappear as well. The
> profit, of course, goes to the publishers. Royalties are a tiny
> percentage of what the book makes. The cost of producing a volume,
> which, once typeset (and some of us end up doing camera-ready) is
> just the cost of paper, ink, and delivery. E-versions, which don’t
> even cost that — just server space — are now the same price as
> hardcopy. At the recent AAS (Association of Asian Studies) the
> decrease in the number of publishers displaying wares, and the
> smaller booths rented by them, and the fewer actual items on display
> by many, was clearly noticeable.
> 
> Shifting costs to our institutions, which are already experiencing
> financial stresses which they pretend to solve by eliminating
> departments of Sanskrit, Religious Studies, etc., is not a healthy
> solution.
> 
> The model is changing, and we are mostly complacent so far.
> 
> Dan
> 
> > On Mar 27, 2019, at 12:11 PM, Camillo Formigatti via INDOLOGY <indo
> > logy at list.indology.info> wrote:
> > 
> > It’s really interesting that in this discussion none of us has
> > actually pointed out that not only scientific publishers shouldn’t
> > ask authors to pay a fee for publication, they should actually pay
> > us for the work we’ve done. If scientific publishers ask scholars
> > to pay a fee for publication it means that their business model is
> > wrong in the best-case scenario or they’re criminals, plain and
> > simple. Maybe the reason for all this is that scientific publishers
> > shouldn’t be run as businesses? I’m just throwing this idea into
> > the arena, since it seems that the business-like model is now all-
> > pervading in every single aspect of human life, even where it
> > shouldn’t.
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > Dr Camillo A. Formigatti
> 
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