From mailmealakendudas at rediffmail.com Tue Jan 1 01:12:27 2019 From: mailmealakendudas at rediffmail.com (alakendu das) Date: Tue, 01 Jan 19 01:12:27 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] HAPPY NEW YEAR Message-ID: <20190101011227.31162.qmail@f4mail-235-143.rediffmail.com> To all list Members              Wish you All                   a very          Happy New Year.                         Alakendu Das. Sent from RediffmailNG on Android -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: Dear scholars, I wish this year bring new happiness , new accomplishments and a lot of new inspirations in your life. Wishing you a year fully loaded with pleasure. Wishing every day of the new year to be filled with success and prosperity too. Happy new year to all of you.. Best regards, Ravinder kumar, Full time research scholar. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Wed Jan 2 14:32:47 2019 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Wed, 02 Jan 19 06:32:47 -0800 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Continuing my Krishna verses Message-ID: Continuing my Krishna verses ????????? ??? ???? ?? ???????? ?: ???????? ? ????? ????? ???????? ??????? ???????? ??????? When there is one and only Krishna in the world, who is happy by seeing whom? M?dhava is happy by himself seeing M?dhava. Madhav M. 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S?yaga?a?ga) with more contemporary Indian medical treatises such as the Caraka- and Su?ruta-sa?hit?s, offering greater detail on the formation of embryos?including maternal/paternal contributions, gender, nutrition, and stages of development, as well as the difficulty of pregnancy. Download File (pdf; 137kb) Water Clock and Steelyard in the Jyoti?kara??aka Author: Sreeramula Rajeswara Sarma Year: 2018 ISSN: 1748-1074 International Journal of Jaina Studies (Online) Vol. 14, No. 2 (2018) 1-49 *Sa?khy?-j??na*, the science of numbers, plays an important role in Jainism which seeks to comprehend the universe numerically. *K?la-j??na* or *k?la-vibh?ga* is an important part of sa?khy?-j??na, for time too has to be comprehended in numbers. The Jainas measured time conceptually in microscopic units and in macroscopic units, but for practical purposes, early Jain texts like the *S?rya-praj?apti* employ a five-year cycle and provide diverse kinds of astronomical parameters for this period. A related Jain text *Jyoti?kara??aka* introduces an interesting variation into the time measurement and speaks of the ?volume? and ?weight? of the time. In this context, the text describes two tools of measurement, a water clock and a steelyard, i.e. a balance with a single pan. Descriptions of such instruments are rare in Indian literature; this paper presents a cultural study of these two measuring instruments. Download File (pdf; 2mb) -- Dr Peter Fl?gel Chair, Centre of Jaina Studies Department of History, Religions and Philosophies School of Oriental and African Studies University of London Thornhaugh Street Russell Square London WC1H OXG Tel.: (+44-20) 7898 4776 E-mail: pf8 at soas.ac.uk http://www.soas.ac.uk/jainastudies -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Reading Sanskrit with Students.* Room S120, Senate House, SOAS Wednesday, February 6, 3-5 pm *Whitney Cox (University of Chicago)* *A Poet Takes Flight. * *Selections from the 18th sarga of Bilha?a's Vikram??kadevacarita. * Room S120, Senate House, SOAS Wednesday, February 20, 3-5 pm *Christopher Minkowski (Oxford)* *TBC* Worcester College, Oxford Wednesday, March 13, 3-5 pm *Csaba Dezs? (E?tv?s Lor?nd University)* *Inspiration, Audience, Premiere.* *Sanskrit prose k?vyas on the process of composition. * Room S120, Senate House, SOAS Wednesday, March 20, 3-5 pm *Bihani Sarkar (Oxford)* *On Reflection and Lamentation in K?lid?sa: * *the Rativil?pa and the Ajavil?pa.* Oxford -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Johannes Bronkhorst On 4 Jan 2019, at 17:41, Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY > wrote: I am wondering if there are any publications that provide a record of Indic vocabulary in Persian, Aramaic, Bactrian and Greek records that give us a linguistic snapshot of the period around P??ini. He is believed to be contemporary with the pre-Mauryan Nanda dynasty and so belonging to a period prior to the invasions by Alexander. Any information would be greatly appreciated. With best regards, Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan [Residence: Campbell, California] _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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("The na is not cerebralized in a compound according to ga?a k?ubhn?di ..."). Example: giri-nagara "mountain-city" (in contrast to giri-?ad?/giri-nad? "mountain-torrent"). Best, Roland Steiner From mmdesh at umich.edu Sat Jan 5 14:33:26 2019 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Sat, 05 Jan 19 06:33:26 -0800 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Continuing my Krishna verses Message-ID: Continuing my Krishna verses ???????????????? ???? ?? ?????? ? ????? ??????? ?? ?????? ?????????????????? ??????: ??????? My mind delights in the play of the Son of Nanda. If this is all real, that is fine. What worry should I have? If this is a dream, let me not wake up. Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan [Residence: Campbell, California] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com Sat Jan 5 20:03:49 2019 From: hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com (Harry Spier) Date: Sat, 05 Jan 19 15:03:49 -0500 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]=09k=E1=B9=A3upn=C4=81di_class_of_words_and_the_word_nagara?= In-Reply-To: <20190105122644.Horde.LGMxyBk0TZC-SZFUwOlPnmm@home.staff.uni-marburg.de> Message-ID: Thank you to Dhaval Patel, Christopher Vielle and Roland Steiner for the clarification. Best wishes, Harry Spier On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 6:27 AM Roland Steiner via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > > Monier-Williams dictionary says the word "nagara" is in the k?upn?di > class > > of words, i.e. those words in which the "n" is never cerebralized.even > > though it should be by the rules of internal sandhi. > > > > I'm not clear how this is relevent to the word "nagara" since the "n" is > > the first letter of the word My understanding was that the relevent rule > > for cerebralizing the n was an internal sandhi rule and didn't apply > > accross word boundaries. I.e if the r ? ? ? were in the previous word? > > > Cf. B?htlingk/Roth (PW) s.v. nagara: "Das na wird in keinem comp. ?a > nach ga?a k?ubhn?di zu P. 8, 4, 39." ("The na is not cerebralized in a > compound according to ga?a k?ubhn?di ..."). > > Example: giri-nagara "mountain-city" (in contrast to > giri-?ad?/giri-nad? "mountain-torrent"). > > Best, > Roland Steiner > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com Sat Jan 5 21:46:47 2019 From: hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com (Harry Spier) Date: Sat, 05 Jan 19 16:46:47 -0500 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]=09k=E1=B9=A3upn=C4=81di_class_of_words_and_the_word_nagara?= In-Reply-To: <20190105122644.Horde.LGMxyBk0TZC-SZFUwOlPnmm@home.staff.uni-marburg.de> Message-ID: Roland Steiner wrote: > > Cf. B?htlingk/Roth (PW) s.v. nagara: "Das na wird in keinem comp. ?a > nach ga?a k?ubhn?di zu P. 8, 4, 39." ("The na is not cerebralized in a > compound according to ga?a k?ubhn?di ..."). > > Example: giri-nagara "mountain-city" (in contrast to > giri-?ad?/giri-nad? "mountain-torrent"). > Why then do we have s?rya-nad? instead of s?rya-?ad?,(from Monier-Williams) ? Similarily also from Monier-Williams: why s?rya-nak?atra, s?rya-n?r?ya?a, s?rya-namask?ra, s?rya-netra instead of , s?rya-?ak?atra, s?rya-??r?ya?a, s?rya-?amask?ra, s?rya-?etra I've just now seen what Whitney writes: "This rule applies strictly and especially when the nasal and the cause of its alteration lie within the limits of the same integral word; but it is extended , within certain limits, to compound words'. What does he mean by "[applies] within certain limits to compound words." Does he mean all compounds not containing a word from ga?a k?ubhn?di or are there other restrictions to its application in compounds? Thanks, Harry Spier -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jpo at austin.utexas.edu Sat Jan 5 22:07:17 2019 From: jpo at austin.utexas.edu (Olivelle, J P) Date: Sat, 05 Jan 19 22:07:17 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] New Book Message-ID: Dear All: It gives me great pleasure to announce the publication of the critical edition (minus the critical apparatus) and translation of the Y?j?avalkya Sm?ti in the Murty Classical Library of India. It has been a long time gestating, over ten years. Pardon the cross-posting. Patrick http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674277069 From jean-luc.chevillard at univ-paris-diderot.fr Sat Jan 5 22:42:18 2019 From: jean-luc.chevillard at univ-paris-diderot.fr (Jean-Luc Chevillard) Date: Sat, 05 Jan 19 23:42:18 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Sanskrit-Latin dictionaries? In-Reply-To: <3CF047EE-1FD7-4FB5-8E95-619A74B5D40E@uni-bonn.de> Message-ID: (Belated) thanks to Peter Wyzlic and Christophe Vielle for providing very useful information -- Jean-Luc Chevillard https://twitter.com/JLC1956 https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard On 16/12/2018 13:39, Peter Wyzlic via INDOLOGY wrote: > Am 16.12.2018 um 11:46 schrieb Jean-Luc Chevillard via INDOLOGY > >: >> >> Is there any Sanskrit-Portuguese dictionary? >> (printed books or MSS) > > The Jesuit missionary Heinrich Roth, or, in Portuguese, Enrique Roa, > began to compile word lists. See, e.g., the article of Claus Vogel: "Die > Vorarbeiten des Jesuitenmissionars Heinrich Roth (1620-1668) zu einem > Sanskrit-lateinischen W?rterbuch?, in: Vicitrakusuma?jali. Festschrift > f?r Richard Othon Meisezahl anl??lich seines achtzigsten > Geburtstages,?Bonn 1986, pp. 131?146. > > Johann Ernst Hanxleden (or von Hanxleden, also known as Arnos Pathiri in > different spellings) successfully compiled dictionaries. ?See the > introduction to the facsimile edition of Hanxleden?s Grammatica > Grandonica (published as Grammatica Grandonica. The Sanskrit Grammar of > Johann Ernst Hanxleden S.J. (1681-1732) / introduced and ed. by Toon van > Hal & Christophe Vielle, Potsdam 2013, also available as open access PDF > file). The bibliography is full of good references. > > Hope it helps > Peter Wyzlic > > -- > Institut f?r Orient- und Asienwissenschaften > Bibliothek > Universit?t Bonn > Br?hler Stra?e 7 > 53119 Bonn > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > From christoph.emmrich at utoronto.ca Sat Jan 5 23:12:24 2019 From: christoph.emmrich at utoronto.ca (Christoph Emmrich) Date: Sat, 05 Jan 19 23:12:24 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Nepali & Newar Workshop, University of Toronto, April 8-27, 2019 Message-ID: The Robert H. N. Ho Family Foundation Centre for Buddhist Studies at the University of Toronto presents: A Nepali and Newar Workshop with Laxmi Nath Shrestha April 8-27, 2019, Mo-Sa, 9:30am-12:30pm, 1:30-3:30pm University of Toronto, 170 St. George Street Jackman Humanities Building, room 318 Hosted by the only university in the world outside of Nepal where students can study Nepali and Newar, this workshop offers training in two languages that are key for studying Newar Buddhism and Hinduism in the Himalayas and beyond. It will cover conversational Nepali in the mornings as well as conversational and literary Newar in the afternoons in two modules, which may be taken separately. Students on all levels are welcome. Language competence will be assessed on the first day and groups will be formed accordingly. The instructor Laxmi Nath Shrestha is a widely acclaimed Nepali and Newar language teacher who over the last 40 years has taught several generations of Nepal Studies scholars. He has been conducting courses at universities in Heidelberg, Kiel, Lisbon, Vienna, and Z?rich. Applicants are requested to send in a brief statement of purpose and an up-to-date CV. Registration closes once full course capacity is reached, or, on March 31, 2019, whichever date is earlier. Participation is free. Travel support is available for a limited number of students based outside the Greater Toronto Area. Please direct your applications and all enquiries to Alexander O?Neill at alexander.oneill at mail.utoronto.ca. ---- Christoph Emmrich Associate Professor, Buddhist Studies Director, Centre for South Asian Studies at the Asian Institute, Munk School of Global Affairs and Public Policy Chair, Numata Program UofT/McMaster University of Toronto http://www.religion.utoronto.ca/people/faculty/christoph-emmrich/ Department for the Study of Religion University of Toronto Jackman Humanities Building, R.203 170 St. George Street Toronto, Ontario M5R 2M8, Canada +416.978.6463 (o), +416.978.1610 (f) http://religion.utoronto.ca/people/faculty/christoph-emmrich/ Centre for South Asian Studies (CSAS) Asian Institute, Munk School of Global Affairs and Public Policy North Building, R.106 1 Devonshire Place Toronto, ON M5S 3K7, Canada Tel.: (416) 978-6463 http://munkschool.utoronto.ca/csas/about/ christoph.emmrich at utoronto.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From falk at zedat.fu-berlin.de Sun Jan 6 10:30:19 2019 From: falk at zedat.fu-berlin.de (Harry Falk) Date: Sun, 06 Jan 19 11:30:19 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Stanley Insler In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <35739.130.133.8.114.1546770619.webmail@webmail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> This came last night through Victor Mair: ????????????????????????- Stanley Insler, 1937-2019 http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=41322 ????????????????????????- A great scholar, a great humanist, and a great human being. vismara?am abhavan?yam hf From mmdesh at umich.edu Sun Jan 6 14:22:31 2019 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Sun, 06 Jan 19 06:22:31 -0800 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Continuing my Krishna verses Message-ID: Continuing my Krishna verses ?????????? ??????????? ???????????????? ? ?????:???????????? ?????? ?? ??????? ???? ??????? If I get to see Krishna, the Son of Nanda, even in a dream, I will have no fear of the waking permeated with happiness and sorrow. Madhav M. 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AP > On 6 Jan 2019, at 12.30, Harry Falk via INDOLOGY wrote: > > This came last night through Victor Mair: > > ????????????????????????- > Stanley Insler, 1937-2019 > > http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=41322 > ????????????????????????- > > A great scholar, a great humanist, and a great human being. > vismara?am abhavan?yam > hf > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From jhakgirish at gmail.com Mon Jan 7 04:15:42 2019 From: jhakgirish at gmail.com (jhakgirish) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 19 09:45:42 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Stanley Insler In-Reply-To: <2814754E-6A4F-4CBD-A165-020E4E53718E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5c32d276.1c69fb81.15c19.eabd@mx.google.com> We have a loss of a great modern scholar of Vedic Studies which seems irreparable.We pray to Bhagavan for his divine peace?and bliss.Girish K.JhaRetd.University ProfessorDept of SanskritPatna UniversityResidence: Kolkata-India Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message --------From: Asko Parpola via INDOLOGY Date: 1/6/19 11:28 PM (GMT+05:30) To: Harry Falk , risa-l at lists.sandiego.edu Cc: indology at list.indology.info Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Stanley Insler I entirely share Harry?s sentiments while mediating the sad news about Stanley Insler to colleagues following the RISA list. AP > On 6 Jan 2019, at 12.30, Harry Falk via INDOLOGY wrote: > > This came last night through Victor Mair: > > ????????????????????????- > Stanley Insler, 1937-2019 > > http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=41322 > ????????????????????????- > > A great scholar, a great humanist, and a great human being. > vismara?am abhavan?yam > hf > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 20:06, Asko Parpola > wrote: I entirely share Harry?s sentiments while mediating the sad news about Stanley Insler to colleagues following the RISA list. AP > On 6 Jan 2019, at 12.30, Harry Falk via INDOLOGY > wrote: > > This came last night through Victor Mair: > > ????????????????????????- > Stanley Insler, 1937-2019 > > http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=41322 > ????????????????????????- > > A great scholar, a great humanist, and a great human being. > vismara?am abhavan?yam > hf > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) _______________________________________________ PLEASE post to this list ONLY from an email account that has been subscribed. 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I hope that those closest to him will be able to update his bibliography and biography beyond the 2002 Festschrift, so that his scholarly record will be fully visible. Hans Henrich Hock > On 6 Jan 2019, at 04:30, Harry Falk via INDOLOGY wrote: > > This came last night through Victor Mair: > > ????????????????????????- > Stanley Insler, 1937-2019 > > http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=41322 > ????????????????????????- > > A great scholar, a great humanist, and a great human being. > vismara?am abhavan?yam > hf > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From mmdesh at umich.edu Tue Jan 8 14:40:39 2019 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 19 06:40:39 -0800 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Continuing my Krishna verses Message-ID: Continuing my Krishna verses ?????? ?? ?????? ?? ? ?????? ??????? ??? ? ????? ??? ?? ?????? ??? ?????? ? ?? ?? ??????? I don't worry if I have prosperity [m?] or not. 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Though it is titled as pramanasamuccaya, it seems to be > translation of something vijnaptimatrata text. > If anyone is aware of its publication, please let me know. It will help us > cataloguing this. > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Fri Jan 11 04:14:34 2019 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 19 20:14:34 -0800 Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtJTkRPTE9HWV0ge+CkreCkvuCksOCkpOClgOCkr+CkteCkv+CkpuCljeCkteCkpOCljeCkquCksOCkv+Ckt+CkpOCljX0gSFJSIEl5ZW5nYXIgTWFudXNjcmlwdCBoZWxw?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Professor Pandurangi, Please see below for the full bibliographical reference to this publication: [image: image.png] Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan [Residence: Campbell, California] On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 7:14 PM Veeranarayana Pandurangi wrote: > Here are images of a ms in ASR possibly handwritten by HRR Iyengar 1930's > Mysore (pramanasamuccaya > Samskrit text). Though it is titled as pramanasamuccaya, it seems to be > translation of something vijnaptimatrata text. > If anyone is aware of its publication, please let me know. It will help us > cataloguing this. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "???????????????????" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to bvparishat+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to bvparishat at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Fri Jan 11 04:16:05 2019 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 19 20:16:05 -0800 Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtJTkRPTE9HWV0ge+CkreCkvuCksOCkpOClgOCkr+CkteCkv+CkpuCljeCkteCkpOCljeCkquCksOCkv+Ckt+CkpOCljX0gSFJSIEl5ZW5nYXIgTWFudXNjcmlwdCBoZWxw?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Here is the link to the pdf of the actual publication: https://ia601603.us.archive.org/10/items/in.ernet.dli.2015.504916/2015.504916.pramana-samuccaya.pdf Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan [Residence: Campbell, California] On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 8:14 PM Madhav Deshpande wrote: > Dear Professor Pandurangi, > > Please see below for the full bibliographical reference to this > publication: > > [image: image.png] > Madhav M. Deshpande > Professor Emeritus > Sanskrit and Linguistics > University of Michigan > [Residence: Campbell, California] > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 7:14 PM Veeranarayana Pandurangi < > veerankp at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Here are images of a ms in ASR possibly handwritten by HRR Iyengar 1930's >> Mysore (pramanasamuccaya >> Samskrit text). Though it is titled as pramanasamuccaya, it seems to be >> translation of something vijnaptimatrata text. >> If anyone is aware of its publication, please let me know. It will help >> us cataloguing this. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "???????????????????" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to bvparishat+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to bvparishat at googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dnreigle at gmail.com Fri Jan 11 04:44:37 2019 From: dnreigle at gmail.com (David and Nancy Reigle) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 19 21:44:37 -0700 Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtJTkRPTE9HWV0ge+CkreCkvuCksOCkpOClgOCkr+CkteCkv+CkpuCljeCkteCkpOCljeCkquCksOCkv+Ckt+CkpOCljX0gUmU6ICBIUlIgSXllbmdhciBNYW51c2NyaXB0IGhlbHA=?= In-Reply-To: <578310783.15580127.1547179444476@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thank you Shankara-ji. As always, if a digital book exists, you find it. Best regards, David Reigle Colorado, U.S.A. On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 9:04 PM 'shankara' via ??????????????????? < bvparishat at googlegroups.com> wrote: > David ji, > > Pramanasamuccaya first chapter edited and restored by HRR Iyengar is > available at archive.org. > > > https://archive.org/details/PramanaSamuccayaOfDingnaga.EditedAndRestoredIntoSanskrit.Mysore1930HRRangaswamyIyengar > > regards > shankara > > > On Friday, 11 January, 2019, 9:21:29 AM IST, David and Nancy Reigle < > dnreigle at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Dear Prof. Pandurangi, > > H. R. Rangaswamy Iyengar's book titled: Pramana Samuccaya, Edited and > Restored into Sanskrit with Vritti, Tika and Notes [Pratyaksaparicchedah], > was published by Government Branch Press, Mysore, 1930. This is the first > chapter only of the Pramana-samuccaya. If you cannot access this book, I > can make a scan of my photocopy of it. > > Best regards, > > David Reigle > Colorado, U.S.A. > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 8:14 PM Veeranarayana Pandurangi via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > Here are images of a ms in ASR possibly handwritten by HRR Iyengar 1930's > Mysore (pramanasamuccaya > Samskrit text). Though it is titled as pramanasamuccaya, it seems to be > translation of something vijnaptimatrata text. > If anyone is aware of its publication, please let me know. It will help us > cataloguing this. > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "???????????????????" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to bvparishat+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to bvparishat at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "???????????????????" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to bvparishat+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to bvparishat at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dnreigle at gmail.com Fri Jan 11 04:47:55 2019 From: dnreigle at gmail.com (David and Nancy Reigle) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 19 21:47:55 -0700 Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtJTkRPTE9HWV0ge+CkreCkvuCksOCkpOClgOCkr+CkteCkv+CkpuCljeCkteCkpOCljeCkquCksOCkv+Ckt+CkpOCljX0gSFJSIEl5ZW5nYXIgTWFudXNjcmlwdCBoZWxw?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thank you, Prof. Deshpande. This is a different copy than the link given by Shankara-ji. Best regards, David Reigle Colorado, U.S.A. On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 9:16 PM Madhav Deshpande wrote: > Here is the link to the pdf of the actual publication: > > > https://ia601603.us.archive.org/10/items/in.ernet.dli.2015.504916/2015.504916.pramana-samuccaya.pdf > > Madhav M. Deshpande > Professor Emeritus > Sanskrit and Linguistics > University of Michigan > [Residence: Campbell, California] > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 8:14 PM Madhav Deshpande wrote: > >> Dear Professor Pandurangi, >> >> Please see below for the full bibliographical reference to this >> publication: >> >> [image: image.png] >> Madhav M. Deshpande >> Professor Emeritus >> Sanskrit and Linguistics >> University of Michigan >> [Residence: Campbell, California] >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 7:14 PM Veeranarayana Pandurangi < >> veerankp at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Here are images of a ms in ASR possibly handwritten by HRR Iyengar >>> 1930's Mysore (pramanasamuccaya >>> Samskrit text). Though it is titled as pramanasamuccaya, it seems to be >>> translation of something vijnaptimatrata text. >>> If anyone is aware of its publication, please let me know. It will help >>> us cataloguing this. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "???????????????????" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to bvparishat+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to bvparishat at googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "???????????????????" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to bvparishat+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to bvparishat at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From prajnapti at gmail.com Fri Jan 11 05:27:18 2019 From: prajnapti at gmail.com (Dan Lusthaus) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 19 00:27:18 -0500 Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtJTkRPTE9HWV0ge+CkreCkvuCksOCkpOClgOCkr+CkteCkv+CkpuCljeCkteCkpOCljeCkquCksOCkv+Ckt+CkpOCljX0gSFJSIEl5ZW5nYXIgTWFudXNjcmlwdCBoZWxw?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0858B37E-F452-4EF3-AFCD-2E1E4673920B@gmail.com> Dear all, Despite the title page, the original scan consists of an English translation of verses, starting with vij?apti-m?trat? and a reference to Kuiji?s parsing of the terms vij?aptim?trat? as locative and the ?purified? as dative. Iyengar?s published version of the portion of the Pram??asamuccaya contains Tibetan and reconstructed Sanskrit, no English, and the PS dedicatory verse discusses pram??abh?ta, not vij?aptim?trat?. The content of the English verses in the scan addresses Krishna, so not likely that page comes from a Buddhist text at all, so it seems these are three different pages from entirely different manuscripts. best wishes, Dan > On Jan 10, 2019, at 11:47 PM, David and Nancy Reigle via INDOLOGY wrote: > > Thank you, Prof. Deshpande. This is a different copy than the link given by Shankara-ji. > > Best regards, > > David Reigle > Colorado, U.S.A. > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 9:16 PM Madhav Deshpande > wrote: > Here is the link to the pdf of the actual publication: > > https://ia601603.us.archive.org/10/items/in.ernet.dli.2015.504916/2015.504916.pramana-samuccaya.pdf > > Madhav M. Deshpande > Professor Emeritus > Sanskrit and Linguistics > University of Michigan > [Residence: Campbell, California] > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 8:14 PM Madhav Deshpande > wrote: > Dear Professor Pandurangi, > > Please see below for the full bibliographical reference to this publication: > > > Madhav M. Deshpande > Professor Emeritus > Sanskrit and Linguistics > University of Michigan > [Residence: Campbell, California] > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 7:14 PM Veeranarayana Pandurangi > wrote: > Here are images of a ms in ASR possibly handwritten by HRR Iyengar 1930's Mysore (pramanasamuccaya > Samskrit text). Though it is titled as pramanasamuccaya, it seems to be translation of something vijnaptimatrata text. > If anyone is aware of its publication, please let me know. It will help us cataloguing this. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "???????????????????" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bvparishat+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com . > To post to this group, send email to bvparishat at googlegroups.com . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "???????????????????" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bvparishat+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com . > To post to this group, send email to bvparishat at googlegroups.com . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout . > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ambapradeep at gmail.com Fri Jan 11 07:11:22 2019 From: ambapradeep at gmail.com (Amba Kulkarni) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 19 12:41:22 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] 6th ISCLS - website and call for papers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear list, I am forwarding the call for papers for the 6th Sanskrit Computational Linguistics Symposium, to be held at IIT Kharagpur, from Oct 23-25, 2019 With best regards, Amba Kulkarni ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------- *Apologies if you have received multiple copies of this email* *Please consider contributing papers and distribute to your colleagues who may be interested* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------- 6th International Sanskrit Computational Linguistics Symposium (6th ISCLS) Indian Institute of Technology Kharagpur, West Bengal, India -- 721302 October 23-25, 2019 Website: https://iscls.github.io/ Convenor: Pawan Goyal, IIT Kharagpur ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------- *CALL for papers* Dear Colleagues, FULL papers are invited on original and unpublished research on various aspects of Computational Linguistics and Digital Humanities related to Sanskrit (Classical and Vedic), Prakrit, Pali, Buddhist Hybrid Sanskrit, etc. *Important Dates:* Submission Deadline: May 10th, 2019 Notification of Acceptance: July 5th, 2019 Camera Ready Version Due: July 25th, 2019 You are requested to submit your research paper using the EasyChair Submission Portal: https://easychair.org/conferences/?conf=6thiscls. The submissions should not exceed 20 pages, and will be reviewed by the program committee members, as listed below. To prepare your submission, please use the latex source files listed on the website, and follow the instructions provided there. The areas of interest include, but are not limited to: ** Sanskrit Computational linguistics: with extensions to related ancient Indian languages (Vedic, Pali, Prakrits)* Digital lexicons, thesauri and wordnets Computational phonology and morphology Syntactic analysis Prose order normalisation Parsing Structural semantics Machine Translation Automatic analysis of Sanskrit corpus Machine Learning approaches to computational processing Navya Ny?ya technical language processing and semantic analysis Information extraction ** Sh?stric Sanskrit texts and computation* Computer modeling and simulation of Paninian and other traditional grammars Theories of ??bdabodha and Sanskrit computational processing ** Sanskrit digital libraries management:* Tools for acquisition & maintenance of Sanskrit digital corpus Library crawlers or search tools in Sanskrit corpus Incorporation of grammatical information in Sanskrit corpus Automated tools for evaluation of Sanskrit poetry, e.g., meter recognition/verification, ala?k?ra identification, ?le?a analysis Software tools for phylogenic studies, intertextuality management, establishment of critical editions, and other philological applications OCR recognition of romanized Sanskrit as well as ancient Indian scripts Digital cataloguing of manuscripts Digital font creation, rendering of phonetic features, etc. Encoding procedures and workflows Presentation and transformation of TEI data Named entity recognition Collaborative annotation and editing Alignment of text with images (including manuscripts) User interface design ** Misc computer applications relevant to Sanskrit:* Software tools for teaching Sanskrit Sanskrit speech recognition and synthesis Social media applications for Sanskrit dissemination *Programme Committee * Stefan Baums (University of Munich) Laxmidhar Behera (IIT Kanpur) Pawan Goyal (IIT Kharagpur) Brendan Gillon (McGill University) Olivier Hellwig (University of Zurich) G?rard Huet (Inria Paris) Amba Kulkarni (University of Hyderabad) Malhar Kulkarni (IIT Bombay) Pavan Kumar Satuluri (Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad) Girish Nath Jha (JNU, Delhi) Andrew Ollett (Harvard University, Cambridge, MA) Dhaval Patel (Ahmedabad) Ganesh Ramakrishnan (IIT Bombay) Peter Scharf (IIIT Hyderabad) Srinivasa Varakhedi (KKSU, Ramtek) K Varalakshmi (Osmania University, Hyderabad) Web Chair: Amrith Krishna, IIT Kharagpur Previous Editions: INRIA Paris Rocquencourt (2007), Brown University, USA (2008), University of Hyderabad, India (2009), JNU, Delhi, India (2010) and IIT Bombay (2013) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From veerankp at gmail.com Fri Jan 11 11:51:22 2019 From: veerankp at gmail.com (Veeranarayana Pandurangi) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 19 17:21:22 +0530 Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtJTkRPTE9HWV0ge+CkreCkvuCksOCkpOClgOCkr+CkteCkv+CkpuCljeCkteCkpOCljeCkquCksOCkv+Ckt+CkpOCljX0gSFJSIEl5ZW5nYXIgTWFudXNjcmlwdCBoZWxw?= In-Reply-To: <0858B37E-F452-4EF3-AFCD-2E1E4673920B@gmail.com> Message-ID: I have attached few more pages of this book. It is not pramanasamuccaya. I have got that book. KH Potter Bibliography notes these more works. We can verify if anybody has this publication. *Vadasthana* 564.11.1 Edited, with Moksakaragupta's *Tarkabhasa*, by H.R.R. Rangaswami Iyengar. Mysore 1944, 1952 *Ekaslokasastra* (NCat III, 55) 47.3.1 Translated from Chinese by H.R.R.Iyengar. JMysoreU 1, 1947, 158-162 On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 10:57 AM Dan Lusthaus wrote: > Dear all, > > Despite the title page, the original scan consists of an English > translation of verses, starting with vij?apti-m?trat? and a reference to > Kuiji?s parsing of the terms vij?aptim?trat? as locative and the ?purified? > as dative. Iyengar?s published version of the portion of the > Pram??asamuccaya contains Tibetan and reconstructed Sanskrit, no English, > and the PS dedicatory verse discusses pram??abh?ta, not vij?aptim?trat?. > The content of the English verses in the scan addresses Krishna, so not > likely that page comes from a Buddhist text at all, so it seems these are > three different pages from entirely different manuscripts. > > best wishes, > Dan > > On Jan 10, 2019, at 11:47 PM, David and Nancy Reigle via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > Thank you, Prof. Deshpande. This is a different copy than the link given > by Shankara-ji. > > Best regards, > > David Reigle > Colorado, U.S.A. > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 9:16 PM Madhav Deshpande wrote: > >> Here is the link to the pdf of the actual publication: >> >> >> https://ia601603.us.archive.org/10/items/in.ernet.dli.2015.504916/2015.504916.pramana-samuccaya.pdf >> >> Madhav M. Deshpande >> Professor Emeritus >> Sanskrit and Linguistics >> University of Michigan >> [Residence: Campbell, California] >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 8:14 PM Madhav Deshpande >> wrote: >> >>> Dear Professor Pandurangi, >>> >>> Please see below for the full bibliographical reference to this >>> publication: >>> >>> [image: image.png] >>> Madhav M. Deshpande >>> Professor Emeritus >>> Sanskrit and Linguistics >>> University of Michigan >>> [Residence: Campbell, California] >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 7:14 PM Veeranarayana Pandurangi < >>> veerankp at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Here are images of a ms in ASR possibly handwritten by HRR Iyengar >>>> 1930's Mysore (pramanasamuccaya >>>> Samskrit text). Though it is titled as pramanasamuccaya, it seems to be >>>> translation of something vijnaptimatrata text. >>>> If anyone is aware of its publication, please let me know. It will help >>>> us cataloguing this. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "???????????????????" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to bvparishat+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to bvparishat at googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "???????????????????" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to bvparishat+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to bvparishat at googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > -- Veeranarayana N.K. Pandurangi Director of Academics Dean, Faculty of Vedantas Karnakata Samskrita University, Pampa Mahakavi Road, Chamarajpet, Bengaluru. ?? ??????????? ??????? ???????? ? ????????? ??? ???????? ??????? ? ?????? ??????????????? ?????????????? ??????? ??????? ??????????? ??????????????? ?????? ???????? ??????????? (?.??.) http://www.ksu.ac.in http://www.ksu.ac.in/en/dr-veeranarayana-n-k-pandurangi/ https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!forum/bvparishat -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Best K P ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: LIBinterlib Date: Fri 11 Jan, 2019, 6:54 PM Subject: RE: Request for Scan Copy To: Krishnaprasad G Dear Krishna Prasad, We do have this book and do provide scanning services. Please have the interlibrary loan department of your university contact us at this email to inquire about placing a request. We can only fill requests from universities, not from individual patrons. Very best regards, Interlibrary Loan Van Pelt Library University of Pennsylvania ? PAU Philadelphia PA 19104 sk http://guides.library.upenn.edu/resoursharing *From:* Krishnaprasad G *Sent:* Tuesday, January 8, 2019 10:03 AM *To:* LIBinterlib *Subject:* Request for Scan Copy Dear Curator I am Krishna Prasad research student at Karnataka Samskrit University Bangalore. I am searching for Kusumamala Vol 2 1891 edition. I happened to that the book is in your library collection through world catalog. I would be glad to know is there any facility to get the book scanned. 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URL: From rrocher at sas.upenn.edu Fri Jan 11 16:34:48 2019 From: rrocher at sas.upenn.edu (Rocher, Rosane D) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 19 16:34:48 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Kusumamala at USA inter library loan help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Krishnaprasad, The interlibrary loan is a free service that only functions between universities. Go to https://www.library.upenn.edu/kislak/reprographic-services for all necessary information. The call number (British shelfmark) for the item you seek is PK669 .A68 1891. The item is listed as "in place." I can't go and verify. I am stuck at home with a fractured toe. Best wishes, Rosane Rocher Professor Emerita of South Asia Studies University of Pennsylvania On 1/11/19 9:17 AM, Krishnaprasad G via INDOLOGY wrote: Dear all I am forwarding the reply I received from Pennsylvania Library USA, My library doesn't allow to put forward the interlibrary loan request, in fact they are not aware of that and I am failed to convince the curator. That's is the reason on personal mail I requested. I wonder, could any one take the hassle here to help me out for the scan. I will bear all the costs incurred. Your help is highly admired. The Kususmamala Vol 2 available on archive is not 1st edition. Best K P ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: LIBinterlib > Date: Fri 11 Jan, 2019, 6:54 PM Subject: RE: Request for Scan Copy To: Krishnaprasad G > Dear Krishna Prasad, We do have this book and do provide scanning services. Please have the interlibrary loan department of your university contact us at this email to inquire about placing a request. We can only fill requests from universities, not from individual patrons. Very best regards, Interlibrary Loan Van Pelt Library University of Pennsylvania ? PAU Philadelphia PA 19104 sk http://guides.library.upenn.edu/resoursharing From: Krishnaprasad G > Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 10:03 AM To: LIBinterlib > Subject: Request for Scan Copy Dear Curator I am Krishna Prasad research student at Karnataka Samskrit University Bangalore. I am searching for Kusumamala Vol 2 1891 edition. I happened to that the book is in your library collection through world catalog. I would be glad to know is there any facility to get the book scanned. Could you please confirm the facility. Thanks Yours sincerely KP _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dnreigle at gmail.com Fri Jan 11 16:36:17 2019 From: dnreigle at gmail.com (David and Nancy Reigle) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 19 09:36:17 -0700 Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtJTkRPTE9HWV0ge+CkreCkvuCksOCkpOClgOCkr+CkteCkv+CkpuCljeCkteCkpOCljeCkquCksOCkv+Ckt+CkpOCljX0gUmU6ICBIUlIgSXllbmdhciBNYW51c2NyaXB0IGhlbHA=?= In-Reply-To: <1553735360.15619700.1547182806869@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The second page of the three given by Prof. Pandurangi is almost certainly the first page of an English translation of Louis de La Vallee Poussin's French translation from Chinese of Xuanzang's Vij?aptim?trat?siddhi, titled: Vij?aptim?trat?siddhi, La Siddhi de Hiuan-tsang, volume 1, 1928. We may be fairly sure of this because the homage verse was written by Xuanzang (or Hsuan-tsang or Hiuan-tsang), but the following notes were written by Poussin. This English translation by H. H. R. Iyengar was never published as far as I know. Much later, Poussin's French translation was translated into English by Ani Migme, and was formerly available on the web. It is now being published by Motilal Banarsidass. Also, the English translation by Wei Tat, titled: Ch'eng Wei-shih Lun, The Doctrine of Mere Consciousness, is said to be a translation of Poussin's French translation, but I have not checked this. The book itself does not say so. Lastly, the same Chinese text was translated directly into English by Francis Cook and published as: Three Texts on Consciousness Only, in the BDK English Tripitaka series, 1999. Xuanzang's treatise is said to be a composite Chinese translation of ten Indian commentaries on Vasubandhu's Vij?aptim?trat?siddhi Tri??ik?. However, it draws primarily on Dharmap?la's commentary, and secondarily on Sthiramati's commentary, often contrasting. Xuanzang in his many years of study in India was a student of ??labhadra, who was a student of Dharmap?la. So his treatise naturally favors the interpretations of Dharmap?la. Best regards, David Reigle Colorado, U.S.A. On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 10:00 PM 'shankara' via ??????????????????? < bvparishat at googlegroups.com> wrote: > Namaste, > > I think the post by Pandurangiji is regarding the status and identity of > the English translation of an unknown Buddhist text by HRR Iyengar, pages > of which were attached to his mail. All the responses so far are about the > Sanskrit text. > > regards > shankara > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I am stuck at home with a fractured toe. > > Best wishes, > Rosane Rocher > Professor Emerita of South Asia Studies > University of Pennsylvania > > On 1/11/19 9:17 AM, Krishnaprasad G via INDOLOGY wrote: > > Dear all > I am forwarding the reply I received from Pennsylvania Library USA, > My library doesn't allow to put forward the interlibrary loan request, in > fact they are not aware of that and I am failed to convince the curator. > That's is the reason on personal mail I requested. > I wonder, could any one take the hassle here to help me out for the scan. > I will bear all the costs incurred. Your help is highly admired. > The Kususmamala Vol 2 available on archive is not 1st edition. > > Best > K P > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: LIBinterlib > Date: Fri 11 Jan, 2019, 6:54 PM > Subject: RE: Request for Scan Copy > To: Krishnaprasad G > > > Dear Krishna Prasad, > > > > We do have this book and do provide scanning services. Please have the > interlibrary loan department of your university contact us at this email to > inquire about placing a request. We can only fill requests from > universities, not from individual patrons. > > > > Very best regards, > > > > Interlibrary Loan > > Van Pelt Library > > University of Pennsylvania ? PAU > > Philadelphia PA 19104 > > sk > > http://guides.library.upenn.edu/resoursharing > > > > > > > > *From:* Krishnaprasad G > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 8, 2019 10:03 AM > *To:* LIBinterlib > *Subject:* Request for Scan Copy > > > > Dear Curator > > I am Krishna Prasad research student at Karnataka Samskrit University > Bangalore. I am searching for Kusumamala Vol 2 1891 edition. I happened to > that the book is in your library collection through world catalog. I would > be glad to know is there any facility to get the book scanned. Could you > please confirm the facility. > > Thanks > > Yours sincerely > > KP > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing listINDOLOGY at list.indology.infoindology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee)http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rrocher at sas.upenn.edu Sat Jan 12 07:11:49 2019 From: rrocher at sas.upenn.edu (Rocher, Rosane D) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 19 07:11:49 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Kusumamala at USA inter library loan help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Forget about interlibrary loan. That will not work. The link provided should show how to order scans as an individual. It will not be a free service. You will be charged for the scans. RR On 1/11/19 10:48 PM, Krishnaprasad G wrote: Dear Rocher Rosane Thanks for your help, I gone through the link provided, unfortunately inter library loan is not possible in this case, as my university is not providing such facility. Thanks On Fri 11 Jan, 2019, 10:05 PM Rocher, Rosane D via INDOLOGY wrote: Dear Krishnaprasad, The interlibrary loan is a free service that only functions between universities. Go to https://www.library.upenn.edu/kislak/reprographic-services for all necessary information. The call number (British shelfmark) for the item you seek is PK669 .A68 1891. The item is listed as "in place." I can't go and verify. I am stuck at home with a fractured toe. Best wishes, Rosane Rocher Professor Emerita of South Asia Studies University of Pennsylvania On 1/11/19 9:17 AM, Krishnaprasad G via INDOLOGY wrote: Dear all I am forwarding the reply I received from Pennsylvania Library USA, My library doesn't allow to put forward the interlibrary loan request, in fact they are not aware of that and I am failed to convince the curator. That's is the reason on personal mail I requested. I wonder, could any one take the hassle here to help me out for the scan. I will bear all the costs incurred. Your help is highly admired. The Kususmamala Vol 2 available on archive is not 1st edition. Best K P ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: LIBinterlib > Date: Fri 11 Jan, 2019, 6:54 PM Subject: RE: Request for Scan Copy To: Krishnaprasad G > Dear Krishna Prasad, We do have this book and do provide scanning services. Please have the interlibrary loan department of your university contact us at this email to inquire about placing a request. We can only fill requests from universities, not from individual patrons. Very best regards, Interlibrary Loan Van Pelt Library University of Pennsylvania ? PAU Philadelphia PA 19104 sk http://guides.library.upenn.edu/resoursharing From: Krishnaprasad G > Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 10:03 AM To: LIBinterlib > Subject: Request for Scan Copy Dear Curator I am Krishna Prasad research student at Karnataka Samskrit University Bangalore. I am searching for Kusumamala Vol 2 1891 edition. I happened to that the book is in your library collection through world catalog. I would be glad to know is there any facility to get the book scanned. Could you please confirm the facility. Thanks Yours sincerely KP _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Sat Jan 12 14:42:29 2019 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 19 06:42:29 -0800 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Continuing my Krishna verses Message-ID: Continuing my Krishna verses ????? ????????? ???????: ?????? ???????? ? ???????? ?????????????? ?? ???????????? ??????? Lakshmi is with you in the cosmic ocean. Radha is with you on the banks of Yamuna. Rukmini is with you in the city of Dvaraka. Your consort M? has many forms. Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan [Residence: Campbell, California] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From danbalogh at gmail.com Sat Jan 12 14:50:43 2019 From: danbalogh at gmail.com (=?utf-8?Q?Balogh_D=C3=A1niel?=) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 19 15:50:43 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Naga Jolokia In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <6429515d-8074-5a8c-9dd4-c75fd864986e@gmail.com> Dear Colleagues, out of curiosity, would any of you have knowledge about the word jolokia in the name of the infamous chili pepper Naga Jolokia (also Bhut Jolokia and Bih Jolokia, where Bhut is definitely ??? and Bih may be a tadbhava from ???). At any rate, I'd welcome any hints about jolokia: what language this word is in, and what its original meaning may be. The spelling in the original language is also of interest. Thank you, Daniel From arlogriffiths at hotmail.com Sat Jan 12 17:00:56 2019 From: arlogriffiths at hotmail.com (Arlo Griffiths) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 19 17:00:56 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] searching for Annual Report of the Archaeological Department, Southern circle, Madras Message-ID: Dear colleagues, Would anyone be able to help me track down online pdfs of the volumes containing the following two papers? Longhurst, A.H. 1916?1917. ?The Buddhist Monuments at Guntupalle, Kistna District.? Annual Report of the Archaeological Department, Southern Circle, Madras, 30?36. ???. 1919?1920. ?Report on Places Visited.? Annual Report of the Archaeological Department, Southern Circle, Madras, 24?38. I am having no luck so far trying to find these. Thank you! Arlo Griffiths EFEO -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The > spelling in the original language is also of interest. > > Thank you, > > Daniel > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From emstern1948 at gmail.com Sat Jan 12 17:46:22 2019 From: emstern1948 at gmail.com (Elliot Stern) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 19 12:46:22 -0500 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Naga Jolokia In-Reply-To: <6429515d-8074-5a8c-9dd4-c75fd864986e@gmail.com> Message-ID: <407AFFA9-1842-476F-B650-8BB48F1121C8@gmail.com> Dear Daniel, I found this entry on page 391 of Candrak?nta Abhidh?na (available at https://dsalsrv04.uchicago.edu/dictionaries/candrakanta/ ) by inputting the search term capsicum. It reports in square brackets a derivation from a form of the Sanskrit root jv?l. ?????? ?????? [??. ??????] ??. ????? ???? ???? ??????? ?? ??? ??? ??? ???? [???? ????????? ???; ???? ??-??????, ???-??????, ???-??????]; chilli; capsicum. Elliot > On Jan 12, 2019, at 9:50 AM, Balogh D?niel via INDOLOGY wrote: > > Dear Colleagues, > > out of curiosity, would any of you have knowledge about the word jolokia in the name of the infamous chili pepper Naga Jolokia (also Bhut Jolokia and Bih Jolokia, where Bhut is definitely ??? and Bih may be a tadbhava from ???). At any rate, I'd welcome any hints about jolokia: what language this word is in, and what its original meaning may be. The spelling in the original language is also of interest. > > Thank you, > > Daniel > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Go to https://www.library.upenn.edu/kislak/reprographic-services for all necessary information. The call number (British shelfmark) for the item you seek is PK669 .A68 1891. The item is listed as "in place." I can't go and verify. I am stuck at home with a fractured toe. Best wishes, Rosane Rocher Professor Emerita of South Asia Studies University of Pennsylvania On 1/11/19 9:17 AM, Krishnaprasad G via INDOLOGY wrote: Dear all I am forwarding the reply I received from Pennsylvania Library USA, My library doesn't allow to put forward the interlibrary loan request, in fact they are not aware of that and I am failed to convince the curator. That's is the reason on personal mail I requested. I wonder, could any one take the hassle here to help me out for the scan. I will bear all the costs incurred. Your help is highly admired. The Kususmamala Vol 2 available on archive is not 1st edition. Best K P ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: LIBinterlib > Date: Fri 11 Jan, 2019, 6:54 PM Subject: RE: Request for Scan Copy To: Krishnaprasad G > Dear Krishna Prasad, We do have this book and do provide scanning services. Please have the interlibrary loan department of your university contact us at this email to inquire about placing a request. We can only fill requests from universities, not from individual patrons. Very best regards, Interlibrary Loan Van Pelt Library University of Pennsylvania ? PAU Philadelphia PA 19104 sk http://guides.library.upenn.edu/resoursharing From: Krishnaprasad G > Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 10:03 AM To: LIBinterlib > Subject: Request for Scan Copy Dear Curator I am Krishna Prasad research student at Karnataka Samskrit University Bangalore. I am searching for Kusumamala Vol 2 1891 edition. I happened to that the book is in your library collection through world catalog. I would be glad to know is there any facility to get the book scanned. 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URL: From jahnabi at umich.edu Sat Jan 12 19:04:55 2019 From: jahnabi at umich.edu (Jahnabi) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 19 20:04:55 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Naga Jolokia (Balogh D?niel) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Daniel, Thank you for your query. The term 'jolokia' (???????) is in the Assamese language. ??????? by itself means chili pepper. And 'bhut jolokia' (??? ???????) refers to a specific chili pepper that has the reputation of being the world's hottest pepper. Hope this helps. Sincerely, Jahnabi On Sat, Jan 12, 2019 at 6:00 PM wrote: > Send INDOLOGY mailing list submissions to > indology at list.indology.info > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology_list.indology.info > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > indology-request at list.indology.info > > You can reach the person managing the list at > indology-owner at list.indology.info > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of INDOLOGY digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Kusumamala at USA inter library loan help (Krishnaprasad G) > 2. Re: Kusumamala at USA inter library loan help (Rocher, Rosane D) > 3. Continuing my Krishna verses (Madhav Deshpande) > 4. Naga Jolokia (Balogh D?niel) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Krishnaprasad G > To: "Rocher, Rosane D" > Cc: Indology > Bcc: > Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 09:18:06 +0530 > Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Kusumamala at USA inter library loan help > Dear Rocher Rosane > Thanks for your help, > I gone through the link provided, unfortunately inter library loan is not > possible in this case, as my university is not providing such facility. > > Thanks > > On Fri 11 Jan, 2019, 10:05 PM Rocher, Rosane D via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info wrote: > >> Dear Krishnaprasad, >> >> The interlibrary loan is a free service that only functions between >> universities. Go to >> https://www.library.upenn.edu/kislak/reprographic-services for all >> necessary information. The call number (British shelfmark) for the item >> you seek is PK669 .A68 1891. The item is listed as "in place." I can't go >> and verify. I am stuck at home with a fractured toe. >> >> Best wishes, >> Rosane Rocher >> Professor Emerita of South Asia Studies >> University of Pennsylvania >> >> On 1/11/19 9:17 AM, Krishnaprasad G via INDOLOGY wrote: >> >> Dear all >> I am forwarding the reply I received from Pennsylvania Library USA, >> My library doesn't allow to put forward the interlibrary loan request, in >> fact they are not aware of that and I am failed to convince the curator. >> That's is the reason on personal mail I requested. >> I wonder, could any one take the hassle here to help me out for the scan. >> I will bear all the costs incurred. Your help is highly admired. >> The Kususmamala Vol 2 available on archive is not 1st edition. >> >> Best >> K P >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: LIBinterlib >> Date: Fri 11 Jan, 2019, 6:54 PM >> Subject: RE: Request for Scan Copy >> To: Krishnaprasad G >> >> >> Dear Krishna Prasad, >> >> >> >> We do have this book and do provide scanning services. Please have the >> interlibrary loan department of your university contact us at this email to >> inquire about placing a request. We can only fill requests from >> universities, not from individual patrons. >> >> >> >> Very best regards, >> >> >> >> Interlibrary Loan >> >> Van Pelt Library >> >> University of Pennsylvania ? PAU >> >> Philadelphia PA 19104 >> >> sk >> >> http://guides.library.upenn.edu/resoursharing >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Krishnaprasad G >> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 8, 2019 10:03 AM >> *To:* LIBinterlib >> *Subject:* Request for Scan Copy >> >> >> >> Dear Curator >> >> I am Krishna Prasad research student at Karnataka Samskrit University >> Bangalore. I am searching for Kusumamala Vol 2 1891 edition. I happened to >> that the book is in your library collection through world catalog. I would >> be glad to know is there any facility to get the book scanned. Could you >> please confirm the facility. >> >> Thanks >> >> Yours sincerely >> >> KP >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing listINDOLOGY at list.indology.infoindology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee)http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Rocher, Rosane D" > To: Krishnaprasad G > Cc: Indology > Bcc: > Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 07:11:49 +0000 > Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Kusumamala at USA inter library loan help > > Forget about interlibrary loan. That will not work. The link provided > should show how to order scans as an individual. It will not be a free > service. You will be charged for the scans. RR > On 1/11/19 10:48 PM, Krishnaprasad G wrote: > > Dear Rocher Rosane > Thanks for your help, > I gone through the link provided, unfortunately inter library loan is not > possible in this case, as my university is not providing such facility. > > Thanks > > On Fri 11 Jan, 2019, 10:05 PM Rocher, Rosane D via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info wrote: > >> Dear Krishnaprasad, >> >> The interlibrary loan is a free service that only functions between >> universities. Go to >> https://www.library.upenn.edu/kislak/reprographic-services for all >> necessary information. The call number (British shelfmark) for the item >> you seek is PK669 .A68 1891. The item is listed as "in place." I can't go >> and verify. I am stuck at home with a fractured toe. >> >> Best wishes, >> Rosane Rocher >> Professor Emerita of South Asia Studies >> University of Pennsylvania >> >> On 1/11/19 9:17 AM, Krishnaprasad G via INDOLOGY wrote: >> >> Dear all >> I am forwarding the reply I received from Pennsylvania Library USA, >> My library doesn't allow to put forward the interlibrary loan request, in >> fact they are not aware of that and I am failed to convince the curator. >> That's is the reason on personal mail I requested. >> I wonder, could any one take the hassle here to help me out for the scan. >> I will bear all the costs incurred. Your help is highly admired. >> The Kususmamala Vol 2 available on archive is not 1st edition. >> >> Best >> K P >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: LIBinterlib >> Date: Fri 11 Jan, 2019, 6:54 PM >> Subject: RE: Request for Scan Copy >> To: Krishnaprasad G >> >> >> Dear Krishna Prasad, >> >> >> >> We do have this book and do provide scanning services. Please have the >> interlibrary loan department of your university contact us at this email to >> inquire about placing a request. We can only fill requests from >> universities, not from individual patrons. >> >> >> >> Very best regards, >> >> >> >> Interlibrary Loan >> >> Van Pelt Library >> >> University of Pennsylvania ? PAU >> >> Philadelphia PA 19104 >> >> sk >> >> http://guides.library.upenn.edu/resoursharing >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Krishnaprasad G >> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 8, 2019 10:03 AM >> *To:* LIBinterlib >> *Subject:* Request for Scan Copy >> >> >> >> Dear Curator >> >> I am Krishna Prasad research student at Karnataka Samskrit University >> Bangalore. I am searching for Kusumamala Vol 2 1891 edition. I happened to >> that the book is in your library collection through world catalog. I would >> be glad to know is there any facility to get the book scanned. Could you >> please confirm the facility. >> >> Thanks >> >> Yours sincerely >> >> KP >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing listINDOLOGY at list.indology.infoindology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee)http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Madhav Deshpande > To: Indology > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 06:42:29 -0800 > Subject: [INDOLOGY] Continuing my Krishna verses > Continuing my Krishna verses > > ????? ????????? ???????: ?????? ???????? ? > ???????? ?????????????? ?? ???????????? ??????? > Lakshmi is with you in the cosmic ocean. Radha is with you on the banks of > Yamuna. Rukmini is with you in the city of Dvaraka. Your consort M? has > many forms. > > Madhav M. Deshpande > Professor Emeritus > Sanskrit and Linguistics > University of Michigan > [Residence: Campbell, California] > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Balogh D?niel" > To: indology at list.indology.info > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 15:50:43 +0100 > Subject: [INDOLOGY] Naga Jolokia > Dear Colleagues, > > out of curiosity, would any of you have knowledge about the word jolokia > in the name of the infamous chili pepper Naga Jolokia (also Bhut Jolokia > and Bih Jolokia, where Bhut is definitely ??? and Bih may be a tadbhava > from ???). At any rate, I'd welcome any hints about jolokia: what > language this word is in, and what its original meaning may be. The > spelling in the original language is also of interest. > > Thank you, > > Daniel > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > http://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology_list.indology.info > -- *JAHNABI BAROOAH* Visiting Scholar Department of Asian Languages and Cultures University of Michigan, Ann Arbor -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jknutson at hawaii.edu Sat Jan 12 20:08:09 2019 From: jknutson at hawaii.edu (Jesse Knutson) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 19 10:08:09 -1000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Naga Jolokia (Balogh D?niel) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Jahnabi, As a fairly frequent consumer of the chili in question, I have been following this thread eagerly hoping there might be some Skt reference to it. For those who might not read the Assamese/Bangla script, the transliteration of Jahnabi's Assamese=bho? jalak?y?. ??????,J On Sat, Jan 12, 2019 at 9:05 AM Jahnabi via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear Daniel, > > Thank you for your query. The term 'jolokia' (???????) is in the Assamese > language. ??????? by itself means chili pepper. And 'bhut jolokia' (??? > ???????) refers to a specific chili pepper that has the reputation of being > the world's hottest pepper. > > Hope this helps. > > Sincerely, > Jahnabi > > On Sat, Jan 12, 2019 at 6:00 PM > wrote: > >> Send INDOLOGY mailing list submissions to >> indology at list.indology.info >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >> http://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology_list.indology.info >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> indology-request at list.indology.info >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> indology-owner at list.indology.info >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of INDOLOGY digest..." >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Kusumamala at USA inter library loan help (Krishnaprasad G) >> 2. Re: Kusumamala at USA inter library loan help (Rocher, Rosane D) >> 3. Continuing my Krishna verses (Madhav Deshpande) >> 4. Naga Jolokia (Balogh D?niel) >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Krishnaprasad G >> To: "Rocher, Rosane D" >> Cc: Indology >> Bcc: >> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 09:18:06 +0530 >> Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Kusumamala at USA inter library loan help >> Dear Rocher Rosane >> Thanks for your help, >> I gone through the link provided, unfortunately inter library loan is not >> possible in this case, as my university is not providing such facility. >> >> Thanks >> >> On Fri 11 Jan, 2019, 10:05 PM Rocher, Rosane D via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info wrote: >> >>> Dear Krishnaprasad, >>> >>> The interlibrary loan is a free service that only functions between >>> universities. Go to >>> https://www.library.upenn.edu/kislak/reprographic-services for all >>> necessary information. The call number (British shelfmark) for the item >>> you seek is PK669 .A68 1891. The item is listed as "in place." I can't go >>> and verify. I am stuck at home with a fractured toe. >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> Rosane Rocher >>> Professor Emerita of South Asia Studies >>> University of Pennsylvania >>> >>> On 1/11/19 9:17 AM, Krishnaprasad G via INDOLOGY wrote: >>> >>> Dear all >>> I am forwarding the reply I received from Pennsylvania Library USA, >>> My library doesn't allow to put forward the interlibrary loan request, >>> in fact they are not aware of that and I am failed to convince the curator. >>> That's is the reason on personal mail I requested. >>> I wonder, could any one take the hassle here to help me out for the >>> scan. I will bear all the costs incurred. Your help is highly admired. >>> The Kususmamala Vol 2 available on archive is not 1st edition. >>> >>> Best >>> K P >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>> From: LIBinterlib >>> Date: Fri 11 Jan, 2019, 6:54 PM >>> Subject: RE: Request for Scan Copy >>> To: Krishnaprasad G >>> >>> >>> Dear Krishna Prasad, >>> >>> >>> >>> We do have this book and do provide scanning services. Please have the >>> interlibrary loan department of your university contact us at this email to >>> inquire about placing a request. We can only fill requests from >>> universities, not from individual patrons. >>> >>> >>> >>> Very best regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> Interlibrary Loan >>> >>> Van Pelt Library >>> >>> University of Pennsylvania ? PAU >>> >>> Philadelphia PA 19104 >>> >>> sk >>> >>> http://guides.library.upenn.edu/resoursharing >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Krishnaprasad G >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 8, 2019 10:03 AM >>> *To:* LIBinterlib >>> *Subject:* Request for Scan Copy >>> >>> >>> >>> Dear Curator >>> >>> I am Krishna Prasad research student at Karnataka Samskrit University >>> Bangalore. I am searching for Kusumamala Vol 2 1891 edition. I happened to >>> that the book is in your library collection through world catalog. I would >>> be glad to know is there any facility to get the book scanned. Could you >>> please confirm the facility. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Yours sincerely >>> >>> KP >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing listINDOLOGY at list.indology.infoindology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee)http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>> committee) >>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >>> or unsubscribe) >>> >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: "Rocher, Rosane D" >> To: Krishnaprasad G >> Cc: Indology >> Bcc: >> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 07:11:49 +0000 >> Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Kusumamala at USA inter library loan help >> >> Forget about interlibrary loan. That will not work. The link provided >> should show how to order scans as an individual. It will not be a free >> service. You will be charged for the scans. RR >> On 1/11/19 10:48 PM, Krishnaprasad G wrote: >> >> Dear Rocher Rosane >> Thanks for your help, >> I gone through the link provided, unfortunately inter library loan is not >> possible in this case, as my university is not providing such facility. >> >> Thanks >> >> On Fri 11 Jan, 2019, 10:05 PM Rocher, Rosane D via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info wrote: >> >>> Dear Krishnaprasad, >>> >>> The interlibrary loan is a free service that only functions between >>> universities. Go to >>> https://www.library.upenn.edu/kislak/reprographic-services for all >>> necessary information. The call number (British shelfmark) for the item >>> you seek is PK669 .A68 1891. The item is listed as "in place." I can't go >>> and verify. I am stuck at home with a fractured toe. >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> Rosane Rocher >>> Professor Emerita of South Asia Studies >>> University of Pennsylvania >>> >>> On 1/11/19 9:17 AM, Krishnaprasad G via INDOLOGY wrote: >>> >>> Dear all >>> I am forwarding the reply I received from Pennsylvania Library USA, >>> My library doesn't allow to put forward the interlibrary loan request, >>> in fact they are not aware of that and I am failed to convince the curator. >>> That's is the reason on personal mail I requested. >>> I wonder, could any one take the hassle here to help me out for the >>> scan. I will bear all the costs incurred. Your help is highly admired. >>> The Kususmamala Vol 2 available on archive is not 1st edition. >>> >>> Best >>> K P >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>> From: LIBinterlib >>> Date: Fri 11 Jan, 2019, 6:54 PM >>> Subject: RE: Request for Scan Copy >>> To: Krishnaprasad G >>> >>> >>> Dear Krishna Prasad, >>> >>> >>> >>> We do have this book and do provide scanning services. Please have the >>> interlibrary loan department of your university contact us at this email to >>> inquire about placing a request. We can only fill requests from >>> universities, not from individual patrons. >>> >>> >>> >>> Very best regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> Interlibrary Loan >>> >>> Van Pelt Library >>> >>> University of Pennsylvania ? PAU >>> >>> Philadelphia PA 19104 >>> >>> sk >>> >>> http://guides.library.upenn.edu/resoursharing >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Krishnaprasad G >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 8, 2019 10:03 AM >>> *To:* LIBinterlib >>> *Subject:* Request for Scan Copy >>> >>> >>> >>> Dear Curator >>> >>> I am Krishna Prasad research student at Karnataka Samskrit University >>> Bangalore. I am searching for Kusumamala Vol 2 1891 edition. I happened to >>> that the book is in your library collection through world catalog. I would >>> be glad to know is there any facility to get the book scanned. Could you >>> please confirm the facility. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Yours sincerely >>> >>> KP >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing listINDOLOGY at list.indology.infoindology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee)http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>> committee) >>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >>> or unsubscribe) >>> >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Madhav Deshpande >> To: Indology >> Cc: >> Bcc: >> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 06:42:29 -0800 >> Subject: [INDOLOGY] Continuing my Krishna verses >> Continuing my Krishna verses >> >> ????? ????????? ???????: ?????? ???????? ? >> ???????? ?????????????? ?? ???????????? ??????? >> Lakshmi is with you in the cosmic ocean. Radha is with you on the banks >> of Yamuna. Rukmini is with you in the city of Dvaraka. Your consort M? has >> many forms. >> >> Madhav M. Deshpande >> Professor Emeritus >> Sanskrit and Linguistics >> University of Michigan >> [Residence: Campbell, California] >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: "Balogh D?niel" >> To: indology at list.indology.info >> Cc: >> Bcc: >> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 15:50:43 +0100 >> Subject: [INDOLOGY] Naga Jolokia >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> out of curiosity, would any of you have knowledge about the word jolokia >> in the name of the infamous chili pepper Naga Jolokia (also Bhut Jolokia >> and Bih Jolokia, where Bhut is definitely ??? and Bih may be a tadbhava >> from ???). At any rate, I'd welcome any hints about jolokia: what >> language this word is in, and what its original meaning may be. The >> spelling in the original language is also of interest. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Daniel >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> http://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology_list.indology.info >> > > > -- > *JAHNABI BAROOAH* > Visiting Scholar > Department of Asian Languages and Cultures > University of Michigan, Ann Arbor > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Jesse Ross Knutson PhD Associate Professor of Sanskrit Language and Literature Department of Indo-Pacific Languages and Literatures University of Hawai'i at M?noa 461 Spalding -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mkapstei at uchicago.edu Sat Jan 12 21:33:33 2019 From: mkapstei at uchicago.edu (Matthew Kapstein) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 19 21:33:33 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Naga Jolokia (Balogh D?niel) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: As the chili was introduced by the Portuguese in the 16th c., Sanskrit reference seems unlikely, except of course in modern Sanskrit. Happy munching, Matthew Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: INDOLOGY on behalf of Jesse Knutson via INDOLOGY Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2019 9:09 PM To: Jahnabi Cc: Indology Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Naga Jolokia (Balogh D?niel) Thanks Jahnabi, As a fairly frequent consumer of the chili in question, I have been following this thread eagerly hoping there might be some Skt reference to it. For those who might not read the Assamese/Bangla script, the transliteration of Jahnabi's Assamese=bho? jalak?y?. ??????,J On Sat, Jan 12, 2019 at 9:05 AM Jahnabi via INDOLOGY > wrote: Dear Daniel, Thank you for your query. The term 'jolokia' (???????) is in the Assamese language. ??????? by itself means chili pepper. And 'bhut jolokia' (??? ???????) refers to a specific chili pepper that has the reputation of being the world's hottest pepper. Hope this helps. Sincerely, Jahnabi On Sat, Jan 12, 2019 at 6:00 PM > wrote: Send INDOLOGY mailing list submissions to indology at list.indology.info To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology_list.indology.info or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to indology-request at list.indology.info You can reach the person managing the list at indology-owner at list.indology.info When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of INDOLOGY digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Kusumamala at USA inter library loan help (Krishnaprasad G) 2. Re: Kusumamala at USA inter library loan help (Rocher, Rosane D) 3. Continuing my Krishna verses (Madhav Deshpande) 4. Naga Jolokia (Balogh D?niel) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Krishnaprasad G > To: "Rocher, Rosane D" > Cc: Indology > Bcc: Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 09:18:06 +0530 Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Kusumamala at USA inter library loan help Dear Rocher Rosane Thanks for your help, I gone through the link provided, unfortunately inter library loan is not possible in this case, as my university is not providing such facility. Thanks On Fri 11 Jan, 2019, 10:05 PM Rocher, Rosane D via INDOLOGY wrote: Dear Krishnaprasad, The interlibrary loan is a free service that only functions between universities. Go to https://www.library.upenn.edu/kislak/reprographic-services for all necessary information. The call number (British shelfmark) for the item you seek is PK669 .A68 1891. The item is listed as "in place." I can't go and verify. I am stuck at home with a fractured toe. Best wishes, Rosane Rocher Professor Emerita of South Asia Studies University of Pennsylvania On 1/11/19 9:17 AM, Krishnaprasad G via INDOLOGY wrote: Dear all I am forwarding the reply I received from Pennsylvania Library USA, My library doesn't allow to put forward the interlibrary loan request, in fact they are not aware of that and I am failed to convince the curator. That's is the reason on personal mail I requested. I wonder, could any one take the hassle here to help me out for the scan. I will bear all the costs incurred. Your help is highly admired. The Kususmamala Vol 2 available on archive is not 1st edition. Best K P ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: LIBinterlib > Date: Fri 11 Jan, 2019, 6:54 PM Subject: RE: Request for Scan Copy To: Krishnaprasad G > Dear Krishna Prasad, We do have this book and do provide scanning services. Please have the interlibrary loan department of your university contact us at this email to inquire about placing a request. We can only fill requests from universities, not from individual patrons. Very best regards, Interlibrary Loan Van Pelt Library University of Pennsylvania ? PAU Philadelphia PA 19104 sk http://guides.library.upenn.edu/resoursharing From: Krishnaprasad G > Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 10:03 AM To: LIBinterlib > Subject: Request for Scan Copy Dear Curator I am Krishna Prasad research student at Karnataka Samskrit University Bangalore. I am searching for Kusumamala Vol 2 1891 edition. I happened to that the book is in your library collection through world catalog. I would be glad to know is there any facility to get the book scanned. Could you please confirm the facility. Thanks Yours sincerely KP _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Rocher, Rosane D" > To: Krishnaprasad G > Cc: Indology > Bcc: Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 07:11:49 +0000 Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Kusumamala at USA inter library loan help Forget about interlibrary loan. That will not work. The link provided should show how to order scans as an individual. It will not be a free service. You will be charged for the scans. RR On 1/11/19 10:48 PM, Krishnaprasad G wrote: Dear Rocher Rosane Thanks for your help, I gone through the link provided, unfortunately inter library loan is not possible in this case, as my university is not providing such facility. Thanks On Fri 11 Jan, 2019, 10:05 PM Rocher, Rosane D via INDOLOGY wrote: Dear Krishnaprasad, The interlibrary loan is a free service that only functions between universities. Go to https://www.library.upenn.edu/kislak/reprographic-services for all necessary information. The call number (British shelfmark) for the item you seek is PK669 .A68 1891. The item is listed as "in place." I can't go and verify. I am stuck at home with a fractured toe. Best wishes, Rosane Rocher Professor Emerita of South Asia Studies University of Pennsylvania On 1/11/19 9:17 AM, Krishnaprasad G via INDOLOGY wrote: Dear all I am forwarding the reply I received from Pennsylvania Library USA, My library doesn't allow to put forward the interlibrary loan request, in fact they are not aware of that and I am failed to convince the curator. That's is the reason on personal mail I requested. I wonder, could any one take the hassle here to help me out for the scan. I will bear all the costs incurred. Your help is highly admired. The Kususmamala Vol 2 available on archive is not 1st edition. Best K P ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: LIBinterlib > Date: Fri 11 Jan, 2019, 6:54 PM Subject: RE: Request for Scan Copy To: Krishnaprasad G > Dear Krishna Prasad, We do have this book and do provide scanning services. Please have the interlibrary loan department of your university contact us at this email to inquire about placing a request. We can only fill requests from universities, not from individual patrons. Very best regards, Interlibrary Loan Van Pelt Library University of Pennsylvania ? PAU Philadelphia PA 19104 sk http://guides.library.upenn.edu/resoursharing From: Krishnaprasad G > Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 10:03 AM To: LIBinterlib > Subject: Request for Scan Copy Dear Curator I am Krishna Prasad research student at Karnataka Samskrit University Bangalore. I am searching for Kusumamala Vol 2 1891 edition. I happened to that the book is in your library collection through world catalog. I would be glad to know is there any facility to get the book scanned. Could you please confirm the facility. Thanks Yours sincerely KP _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Madhav Deshpande > To: Indology > Cc: Bcc: Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 06:42:29 -0800 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Continuing my Krishna verses Continuing my Krishna verses ????? ????????? ???????: ?????? ???????? ? ???????? ?????????????? ?? ???????????? ??????? Lakshmi is with you in the cosmic ocean. Radha is with you on the banks of Yamuna. Rukmini is with you in the city of Dvaraka. Your consort M? has many forms. Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan [Residence: Campbell, California] ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Balogh D?niel" > To: indology at list.indology.info Cc: Bcc: Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 15:50:43 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Naga Jolokia Dear Colleagues, out of curiosity, would any of you have knowledge about the word jolokia in the name of the infamous chili pepper Naga Jolokia (also Bhut Jolokia and Bih Jolokia, where Bhut is definitely ??? and Bih may be a tadbhava from ???). At any rate, I'd welcome any hints about jolokia: what language this word is in, and what its original meaning may be. The spelling in the original language is also of interest. Thank you, Daniel _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info http://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology_list.indology.info -- JAHNABI BAROOAH Visiting Scholar Department of Asian Languages and Cultures University of Michigan, Ann Arbor _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Jesse Ross Knutson PhD Associate Professor of Sanskrit Language and Literature Department of Indo-Pacific Languages and Literatures University of Hawai'i at M?noa 461 Spalding -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jknutson at hawaii.edu Sun Jan 13 05:28:24 2019 From: jknutson at hawaii.edu (Jesse Knutson) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 19 19:28:24 -1000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Naga Jolokia (Balogh D?niel) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Really even that one? I just can't imagine anyone but South Asia-Northeasterners coming up with it. It has to be the one autochthonous chili. :) On Sat, Jan 12, 2019, 11:33 AM Matthew Kapstein As the chili was introduced by the Portuguese in the 16th c., Sanskrit > reference seems unlikely, except of course in modern Sanskrit. > > Happy munching, > Matthew > > Get Outlook for iOS > > ------------------------------ > *From:* INDOLOGY on behalf of Jesse > Knutson via INDOLOGY > *Sent:* Saturday, January 12, 2019 9:09 PM > *To:* Jahnabi > *Cc:* Indology > *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] Naga Jolokia (Balogh D?niel) > > Thanks Jahnabi, As a fairly frequent consumer of the chili in question, I > have been following this thread eagerly hoping there might be some Skt > reference to it. For those who might not read the Assamese/Bangla script, > the transliteration of Jahnabi's Assamese=bho? jalak?y?. ??????,J > > On Sat, Jan 12, 2019 at 9:05 AM Jahnabi via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Dear Daniel, >> >> Thank you for your query. The term 'jolokia' (???????) is in the Assamese >> language. ??????? by itself means chili pepper. And 'bhut jolokia' (??? >> ???????) refers to a specific chili pepper that has the reputation of being >> the world's hottest pepper. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Sincerely, >> Jahnabi >> >> On Sat, Jan 12, 2019 at 6:00 PM >> wrote: >> >>> Send INDOLOGY mailing list submissions to >>> indology at list.indology.info >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> >>> http://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology_list.indology.info >>> >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> indology-request at list.indology.info >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> indology-owner at list.indology.info >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of INDOLOGY digest..." >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Kusumamala at USA inter library loan help (Krishnaprasad G) >>> 2. Re: Kusumamala at USA inter library loan help (Rocher, Rosane D) >>> 3. Continuing my Krishna verses (Madhav Deshpande) >>> 4. Naga Jolokia (Balogh D?niel) >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Krishnaprasad G >>> To: "Rocher, Rosane D" >>> Cc: Indology >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 09:18:06 +0530 >>> Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Kusumamala at USA inter library loan help >>> Dear Rocher Rosane >>> Thanks for your help, >>> I gone through the link provided, unfortunately inter library loan is >>> not possible in this case, as my university is not providing such facility. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> On Fri 11 Jan, 2019, 10:05 PM Rocher, Rosane D via INDOLOGY < >>> indology at list.indology.info wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Krishnaprasad, >>>> >>>> The interlibrary loan is a free service that only functions between >>>> universities. Go to >>>> https://www.library.upenn.edu/kislak/reprographic-services for all >>>> necessary information. The call number (British shelfmark) for the item >>>> you seek is PK669 .A68 1891. The item is listed as "in place." I can't go >>>> and verify. I am stuck at home with a fractured toe. >>>> >>>> Best wishes, >>>> Rosane Rocher >>>> Professor Emerita of South Asia Studies >>>> University of Pennsylvania >>>> >>>> On 1/11/19 9:17 AM, Krishnaprasad G via INDOLOGY wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear all >>>> I am forwarding the reply I received from Pennsylvania Library USA, >>>> My library doesn't allow to put forward the interlibrary loan request, >>>> in fact they are not aware of that and I am failed to convince the curator. >>>> That's is the reason on personal mail I requested. >>>> I wonder, could any one take the hassle here to help me out for the >>>> scan. I will bear all the costs incurred. Your help is highly admired. >>>> The Kususmamala Vol 2 available on archive is not 1st edition. >>>> >>>> Best >>>> K P >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>> From: LIBinterlib >>>> Date: Fri 11 Jan, 2019, 6:54 PM >>>> Subject: RE: Request for Scan Copy >>>> To: Krishnaprasad G >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Krishna Prasad, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We do have this book and do provide scanning services. Please have the >>>> interlibrary loan department of your university contact us at this email to >>>> inquire about placing a request. We can only fill requests from >>>> universities, not from individual patrons. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Very best regards, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Interlibrary Loan >>>> >>>> Van Pelt Library >>>> >>>> University of Pennsylvania ? PAU >>>> >>>> Philadelphia PA 19104 >>>> >>>> sk >>>> >>>> http://guides.library.upenn.edu/resoursharing >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Krishnaprasad G >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 8, 2019 10:03 AM >>>> *To:* LIBinterlib >>>> *Subject:* Request for Scan Copy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Curator >>>> >>>> I am Krishna Prasad research student at Karnataka Samskrit University >>>> Bangalore. I am searching for Kusumamala Vol 2 1891 edition. I happened to >>>> that the book is in your library collection through world catalog. I would >>>> be glad to know is there any facility to get the book scanned. Could you >>>> please confirm the facility. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Yours sincerely >>>> >>>> KP >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> INDOLOGY mailing listINDOLOGY at list.indology.infoindology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee)http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>>> committee) >>>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >>>> or unsubscribe) >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: "Rocher, Rosane D" >>> To: Krishnaprasad G >>> Cc: Indology >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 07:11:49 +0000 >>> Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Kusumamala at USA inter library loan help >>> >>> Forget about interlibrary loan. That will not work. The link provided >>> should show how to order scans as an individual. It will not be a free >>> service. You will be charged for the scans. RR >>> On 1/11/19 10:48 PM, Krishnaprasad G wrote: >>> >>> Dear Rocher Rosane >>> Thanks for your help, >>> I gone through the link provided, unfortunately inter library loan is >>> not possible in this case, as my university is not providing such facility. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> On Fri 11 Jan, 2019, 10:05 PM Rocher, Rosane D via INDOLOGY < >>> indology at list.indology.info wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Krishnaprasad, >>>> >>>> The interlibrary loan is a free service that only functions between >>>> universities. Go to >>>> https://www.library.upenn.edu/kislak/reprographic-services for all >>>> necessary information. The call number (British shelfmark) for the item >>>> you seek is PK669 .A68 1891. The item is listed as "in place." I can't go >>>> and verify. I am stuck at home with a fractured toe. >>>> >>>> Best wishes, >>>> Rosane Rocher >>>> Professor Emerita of South Asia Studies >>>> University of Pennsylvania >>>> >>>> On 1/11/19 9:17 AM, Krishnaprasad G via INDOLOGY wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear all >>>> I am forwarding the reply I received from Pennsylvania Library USA, >>>> My library doesn't allow to put forward the interlibrary loan request, >>>> in fact they are not aware of that and I am failed to convince the curator. >>>> That's is the reason on personal mail I requested. >>>> I wonder, could any one take the hassle here to help me out for the >>>> scan. I will bear all the costs incurred. Your help is highly admired. >>>> The Kususmamala Vol 2 available on archive is not 1st edition. >>>> >>>> Best >>>> K P >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>> From: LIBinterlib >>>> Date: Fri 11 Jan, 2019, 6:54 PM >>>> Subject: RE: Request for Scan Copy >>>> To: Krishnaprasad G >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Krishna Prasad, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We do have this book and do provide scanning services. Please have the >>>> interlibrary loan department of your university contact us at this email to >>>> inquire about placing a request. We can only fill requests from >>>> universities, not from individual patrons. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Very best regards, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Interlibrary Loan >>>> >>>> Van Pelt Library >>>> >>>> University of Pennsylvania ? PAU >>>> >>>> Philadelphia PA 19104 >>>> >>>> sk >>>> >>>> http://guides.library.upenn.edu/resoursharing >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Krishnaprasad G >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 8, 2019 10:03 AM >>>> *To:* LIBinterlib >>>> *Subject:* Request for Scan Copy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Curator >>>> >>>> I am Krishna Prasad research student at Karnataka Samskrit University >>>> Bangalore. I am searching for Kusumamala Vol 2 1891 edition. I happened to >>>> that the book is in your library collection through world catalog. I would >>>> be glad to know is there any facility to get the book scanned. Could you >>>> please confirm the facility. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Yours sincerely >>>> >>>> KP >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> INDOLOGY mailing listINDOLOGY at list.indology.infoindology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee)http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>>> committee) >>>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >>>> or unsubscribe) >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Madhav Deshpande >>> To: Indology >>> Cc: >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 06:42:29 -0800 >>> Subject: [INDOLOGY] Continuing my Krishna verses >>> Continuing my Krishna verses >>> >>> ????? ????????? ???????: ?????? ???????? ? >>> ???????? ?????????????? ?? ???????????? ??????? >>> Lakshmi is with you in the cosmic ocean. Radha is with you on the banks >>> of Yamuna. Rukmini is with you in the city of Dvaraka. Your consort M? has >>> many forms. >>> >>> Madhav M. Deshpande >>> Professor Emeritus >>> Sanskrit and Linguistics >>> University of Michigan >>> [Residence: Campbell, California] >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: "Balogh D?niel" >>> To: indology at list.indology.info >>> Cc: >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 15:50:43 +0100 >>> Subject: [INDOLOGY] Naga Jolokia >>> Dear Colleagues, >>> >>> out of curiosity, would any of you have knowledge about the word jolokia >>> in the name of the infamous chili pepper Naga Jolokia (also Bhut Jolokia >>> and Bih Jolokia, where Bhut is definitely ??? and Bih may be a tadbhava >>> from ???). At any rate, I'd welcome any hints about jolokia: what >>> language this word is in, and what its original meaning may be. The >>> spelling in the original language is also of interest. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> Daniel >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> http://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology_list.indology.info >>> >> >> >> -- >> *JAHNABI BAROOAH* >> Visiting Scholar >> Department of Asian Languages and Cultures >> University of Michigan, Ann Arbor >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Jesse Ross Knutson PhD > Associate Professor of Sanskrit Language and Literature > Department of Indo-Pacific Languages and Literatures > University of Hawai'i at M?noa > 461 Spalding > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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All the best, Daniel From mrinalkaul81 at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 00:55:07 2019 From: mrinalkaul81 at gmail.com (Mrinal Kaul) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 19 06:25:07 +0530 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_Three_Day_Buddhist_Pram=C4=81=E1=B9=87a_Workshop?= Message-ID: *Three Day Buddhist Pram??a Workshop* *10-12 February 2019* *Organized by* Centre for Religious Studies Manipal Centre for Humanities Manipal Academy of Higher Education, Manipal, India *CALL FOR PARTICIPATION* Centre for Religious Studies invites applications for a three-day *Buddhist Pram??a Workshop* from *February 10-12, 2019* in Manipal. *About the Workshop* The workshop will principally include a close textual reading of selections from various texts of the Buddhist Pram??a Tradition each followed by various contributions and discussions. We will read the extracts from the following texts: - ? *Ny?yabindu* with the *??k?* of Dharmottara: first chapter ( *Pratyak?a-pariccheda*) (led by Prof Pradeep Gokhale) - *? V?ts?putr?y?tmapar?k??* (= *Tattvasa?graha* verses 336-349, and the relative *Tattvasa?grahapa?jik?*) (led by Prof Francesco Sferra) - *? Pram???ntarabh?vapar?k??* (= *Tattvasa?graha* verses 1486-1524, and the relative *Tattvasa?grahapa?jik?*) (led by Prof Francesco Sferra) The aim is to examine how the Buddhist Pram??a Tradition systematically develops its logical-epistemological tools. The workshop expects to delve into extensive philosophical discussions while at the same time working closely with the textual sources adopting philological methods. This is possible by focusing on small portions of texts mentioned above and attempting to situate the philosophical problems in larger discussions taking help from the experts. The workshop will begin by asking how N?g?rjuna?s (c. 150-250 CE) dialectics in his works like the *M?lamadhyamakak?rik?* and the *Vigrahavy?vartan?* become a source of many logical arguments or how Dharmak?rti (*fl*. c. 6th or 7th CE) in his works such as the *Ny?yabindu*, the *Pram??avini?caya* and the *Pram??av?rtika* elaborates and clarifies Di?n?ga?s (c. 480-540 CE) Theory of Knowledge. Thereafter, the problem at focus will be how ??ntarak?ita (c. 725?788 CE) in his *Tattvasa?graha* and Kamala??la (c. 740-795 CE) in his commentary on the same text titled the *Tattvasa?grahapa?jik?* deal with the concepts of Self and Verbal Testimony. *Deadline for Application:* *Thursday 31 January, 2019* *Faculty:* - ? Prof Pradeep Gokhale Former Professor of Philosophy, Savitribai Phule Pune University, Pune - ? Prof Francesco Sferra Chair of Sanskrit, Universit? degli Studi di Napoli "L'Orientale", Naples, Italy There will be plenty of opportunities for interaction and participation. The morning and afternoon sessions will include the readings of the text in Sanskrit followed by special lectures in the afternoon. The seminar will be held in English and readings will be circulated in advance. *Application and Selection Criteria* Applicants interested in participating the workshop should apply by writing to Dr Mrinal Kaul along with a short note about themselves and justifying their interest in the workshop. Basic familiarity with Sanskrit language and the reading ability in Devan?gar? script is required. We seek interested research students and scholars from across India. The selection will be made based on the strength of the application. We cannot accept more than 25 participants and the priority will be given to the applications from research scholars in disciplines or with experience in Sanskrit, Philosophy, Indology, Religion and Literature. Applicants will be informed about the decision of selection immediately after the deadline of application. *Location and Accommodation* The event will be hosted by Manipal Academy of Higher Education and its Centre for Religious Studies in the picturesque ocean-side state of Karnataka in south-western India. There is no registration fee for the event, but prior registration is mandatory. If accommodation is required, please mention it clearly in your application. There will be some rooms reserved in the international students hostel and participants will be expected to pay for themselves. University charges subsidised rates for accommodation. The space is wheelchair accessible. No travel cost will be reimbursed. *Contact:* Dr Mrinal Kaul (Convenor-Buddhist Pram??a Workshop) Coordinator Centre for Religious Studies Manipal Centre for Humanities Manipal Academy of Higher Education email: Tel +91-820-29-23567 (Office) *For more information, please contact:* Manipal Centre for Philosophy and Humanities Dr TMA Pai Planetarium Complex, Alevoor Road Manipal ? 576104 Tel +91-820-2923561 office.mcph at manipal.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From krishnaprasadah.g at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 12:14:46 2019 From: krishnaprasadah.g at gmail.com (Krishnaprasad G) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 19 17:44:46 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Help to identify this printed book Message-ID: Dear all I found this image on the internet. Only this page I got accidentally when I was searching something else. It seems the whole book is available online. I am very much interested in Purva mimansa texts. So searching. 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The Oriental Institute, Pusey Lane, Oxford The University of Oxford is one of the world's leading centres for the study of Sanskrit. We are recruiting an Associate Professor of Sanskrit from 1 October 2019, or as soon as possible thereafter. The post will enhance provision for the teaching of Sanskrit language, literature, and pre-modern Indian culture in the Faculty of Oriental Studies, and will be attached to Wolfson College. This post offers a scholar with a growing national and international reputation an exciting opportunity to become established as a leader in this field, in which the University of Oxford enjoys a pre-eminent reputation. You will find a vibrant intellectual environment with a broad expertise in Indian Studies, and will be able to make use of Oxford?s unique resources, such as the Sanskrit manuscript collection in the Bodleian Library and the Indian art collection in the Ashmolean Museum. The Associate Professor will carry out advanced research and disseminate this by publication and other means, developing the study of Sanskrit in Oxford. You will lecture and teach classes, including small tutorial groups, and help to co-ordinate the undergraduate and Master's degree courses in this field. This will include examining for these courses. You will supervise graduate and research students, seek opportunities for research projects, and assist in the administration of the Subject Group and Faculty when invited to do so. You will have an outstanding record of research and publication in one or more of the study fields of Sanskrit language, Sanskrit literature, or any of the pre-modern and early modern disciplines of ??stra, and a record of successful undergraduate and graduate teaching, including experience of designing and introducing new courses. The ability to lecture in an interesting and engaging manner to a mixed audience, including undergraduates, and a high degree of expertise in Classical Sanskrit is essential. You must have a proven ability and readiness to contribute effectively to academic administration, a proven record of successful collaboration with colleagues in pursuit of common goals in research, teaching, and administration, and a demonstrated capacity for leadership in maintaining and developing teaching programmes. A doctorate in a relevant field of South Asian Studies, complete by the time of appointment, is also essential. The closing date for applications is 12.00 noon on Friday 22 February 2019. 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With kind regards, Amba Kulkarni > Could somebody look into the problem and fix it. It will be greatly > appreciated by many of us who use this site. > > > > Dhanyavadaaha > > Ramanujam > > > > > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > > -- ? ?? ?????: ?????? ????? ??????: ll Let noble thoughts come to us from every side. - Rig Veda, I-89-i. Professor & Head Department of Sanskrit Studies University of Hyderabad Prof. C.R. Rao Road Hyderabad-500 046 (91) 040 23133802(off) http://scl.samsaadhanii.in http://sanskrit.uohyd.ac.in/scl http://tdil-dc.in/scl http://sanskrit.uohyd.ac.in/faculty/amba -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please share this news with your colleagues, faculty, students, and institutes, and please feel free to write me (jloa at loc.gov) if there are any questions. Warm regards from snowy DC, Jon Jonathan Loar, Ph.D. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ South Asia Reference Librarian Asian Division, Library of Congress jloa at loc.gov (202) 707-3417 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ LC?s International Collections on social media! 4 Corners of the World Blog International Collections Facebook Page -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Wed Jan 16 14:48:51 2019 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 19 06:48:51 -0800 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Continuing my Krishna verses Message-ID: Continuing my Krishna verses ??????????? ???? ???????? ??????? ? ???????????????: ????????????????????? ??????? [????? = ?? ????] O Lord of the World, Lakshmi the Mother of the World with uncountable virtues showers us day and night with streams of her compassion. Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan [Residence: Campbell, California] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maximilian.mehner at gmx.de Wed Jan 16 22:42:18 2019 From: maximilian.mehner at gmx.de (Maximilian Mehner) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 19 23:42:18 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Talk investigating predatory publishing practices Message-ID: Dear all, This talk offers an interesting (and shocking) insight into the industry behind pseudo-academic conferences, journals and publications. It was held recently by three german investigative journalists: https://media.ccc.de/v/35c3-9744-inside_the_fake_science_factories#l=eng (This is with english audio dubs, you can switch them off with a click on the gear symbol if you prefer german.) 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You will see on its entry page a reference to the citation k?ka??k??ra??p?tv??kokila??na?bhavati . If you click on it, you wind up in the Sanskrit Segmenter interface listing the relevant segmentation. Now a new action is proposed, mentioning UoH Analysis Mode. Click on its green tick sign. This will transport you to an interface page listing the padap??ha. Click on the Submit button. You are now facing the sa?s?dhan? analyser, listing its possible parses. Selecting the root p? in the p?tv? column gives the intended parse, which may now be displayed as a dependency graph like this . This facility is still in an experimental phase. It works for not too complex sentences given in prose order. For poetry, it is possible to use the padap??ha interface to reorder the components by giving manually the prose order. Many thanks to Pr Kulkarni for providing this wonderful grammatical analysis tool, and for her assistance in adapting it to the Sanskrit Heritage Web services. 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Nicholson, Ph.D. Associate Professor (on leave 2018-2019) Asian & Asian American Studies Stony Brook University Stony Brook, NY 11794-5343 USA (631) 632-4030 Visiting Associate Professor and Stewart Fellow (2018-2019) 1879 Hall, Room 232 Department of Religion Princeton University Princeton, NJ 08544 USA (609) 258-4485 http://philosophicalrasika.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Fri Jan 18 16:59:17 2019 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 19 08:59:17 -0800 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Continuing my Krishna verses Message-ID: Continuing my Krishna verses ??? ? ?? ? ???? ???? ?????? ???? ????? ? ??????????????? ????? ????? ???: ??????? Um? [P?rvat?] and M? [Lak?m?] are two forms, but there are no different deities. Though they have different forms and names, they have the same heart. Madhav M. 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I suspect it appears in one or more Pur??as: > > pu?yap?p?dika? vi??u? k?rayet p?rvakarma?? / > an?ditv?t karma?a? ca na virodha? katha?cana // > > Please do let me know where you found this if you have run across this ?loka in a sm?ti text somewhere. > > All the best, > Andrew > > > Andrew J. Nicholson, Ph.D. > Associate Professor (on leave 2018-2019) > Asian & Asian American Studies > Stony Brook University > Stony Brook, NY 11794-5343 USA > (631) 632-4030 > > Visiting Associate Professor and Stewart Fellow (2018-2019) > 1879 Hall, Room 232 > Department of Religion > Princeton University > Princeton, NJ 08544 USA > (609) 258-4485 > http://philosophicalrasika.com/ > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) Elliot M. Stern 552 South 48th Street Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029 emstern1948 at gmail.com 267-240-8418 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Fri Jan 18 17:49:48 2019 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 19 09:49:48 -0800 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Verse Identification (Purana?) In-Reply-To: <4B534899-60D7-4272-9427-B169C3E466E1@gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Andrew, Not this verse, but the general doctrine that ??vara's decisions are dependent upon the karman of a person, and that karman is an?di is found in the Bh??ya of ?a?kara on the Brahmas?tra (2.1.34): ???????????????? ?, ?????????????. God cannot be accused of being uneven and cruel, because his decisions are guided by the karman of a person. Best wishes, Madhav Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan [Residence: Campbell, California] On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 9:30 AM Elliot Stern via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > I cannot verify this, but Demian Martins says the source > is bhavi?yapur??am (https://bkdemian.blogspot.com/2010/10/karma.html): > > punya-papadikam visnuh karayet purva-karmana > anaditvat karmanas ca na virodhah kathancana > (Bhavisya Purana, quoted in the Govinda-bhasya, 2.1.35) > > > Elliot > > > On Jan 18, 2019, at 11:41 AM, Andrew Nicholson via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > Dear Colleagues, > > The following verse appears in Madhva's and Baladeva's commentaries on the > Brahmas?tra. I suspect it appears in one or more Pur??as: > > pu?yap?p?dika? vi??u? k?rayet p?rvakarma?? / > an?ditv?t karma?a? ca na virodha? katha?cana // > > Please do let me know where you found this if you have run across this > ?loka in a sm?ti text somewhere. > > All the best, > Andrew > > > Andrew J. Nicholson, Ph.D. > Associate Professor (on leave 2018-2019) > Asian & Asian American Studies > Stony Brook University > Stony Brook, NY 11794-5343 USA > (631) 632-4030 > > Visiting Associate Professor and Stewart Fellow (2018-2019) > 1879 Hall, Room 232 > Department of Religion > Princeton University > Princeton, NJ 08544 USA > (609) 258-4485 > http://philosophicalrasika.com/ > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > Elliot M. Stern > 552 South 48th Street > Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029 > emstern1948 at gmail.com > 267-240-8418 > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dnreigle at gmail.com Fri Jan 18 17:55:10 2019 From: dnreigle at gmail.com (David and Nancy Reigle) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 19 10:55:10 -0700 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Verse Identification (Purana?) In-Reply-To: <4B534899-60D7-4272-9427-B169C3E466E1@gmail.com> Message-ID: This verse is not in the Bhavisya-purana according to the sloka index that was added to the Nag Publisher's reprint of the Venkatesvara Steam Press edition. I checked for both lines. Best regards, David Reigle Colorado, U.S.A. On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 10:30 AM Elliot Stern via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > I cannot verify this, but Demian Martins says the source > is bhavi?yapur??am (https://bkdemian.blogspot.com/2010/10/karma.html): > > punya-papadikam visnuh karayet purva-karmana > anaditvat karmanas ca na virodhah kathancana > (Bhavisya Purana, quoted in the Govinda-bhasya, 2.1.35) > > > Elliot > > > On Jan 18, 2019, at 11:41 AM, Andrew Nicholson via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > Dear Colleagues, > > The following verse appears in Madhva's and Baladeva's commentaries on the > Brahmas?tra. I suspect it appears in one or more Pur??as: > > pu?yap?p?dika? vi??u? k?rayet p?rvakarma?? / > an?ditv?t karma?a? ca na virodha? katha?cana // > > Please do let me know where you found this if you have run across this > ?loka in a sm?ti text somewhere. > > All the best, > Andrew > > > Andrew J. Nicholson, Ph.D. > Associate Professor (on leave 2018-2019) > Asian & Asian American Studies > Stony Brook University > Stony Brook, NY 11794-5343 USA > (631) 632-4030 > > Visiting Associate Professor and Stewart Fellow (2018-2019) > 1879 Hall, Room 232 > Department of Religion > Princeton University > Princeton, NJ 08544 USA > (609) 258-4485 > http://philosophicalrasika.com/ > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > Elliot M. Stern > 552 South 48th Street > Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029 > emstern1948 at gmail.com > 267-240-8418 > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johannes.bronkhorst at unil.ch Fri Jan 18 18:04:36 2019 From: johannes.bronkhorst at unil.ch (Johannes Bronkhorst) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 19 18:04:36 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Verse Identification (Purana?) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3F09A1E6-8DCE-4339-9AF5-A7087DF51538@unil.ch> This verse is mentioned in Roque Mesquita?s Madhvas Zitate aus den Pur??as und dem Mah?bh?rata: Eine analytische Zusammenstellung nicht identifizierbarer Quellenzitate in Madhvas Werken nebst ?bersetzung und Anmerkungen (Wien 2007 p. 58) as one of many unidentifiable quotations that may have been invented by Madhva himself. Johannes Bronkhorst On 18 Jan 2019, at 18:55, David and Nancy Reigle via INDOLOGY > wrote: This verse is not in the Bhavisya-purana according to the sloka index that was added to the Nag Publisher's reprint of the Venkatesvara Steam Press edition. I checked for both lines. Best regards, David Reigle Colorado, U.S.A. On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 10:30 AM Elliot Stern via INDOLOGY > wrote: I cannot verify this, but Demian Martins says the source is bhavi?yapur??am (https://bkdemian.blogspot.com/2010/10/karma.html): punya-papadikam visnuh karayet purva-karmana anaditvat karmanas ca na virodhah kathancana (Bhavisya Purana, quoted in the Govinda-bhasya, 2.1.35) Elliot On Jan 18, 2019, at 11:41 AM, Andrew Nicholson via INDOLOGY > wrote: Dear Colleagues, The following verse appears in Madhva's and Baladeva's commentaries on the Brahmas?tra. I suspect it appears in one or more Pur??as: pu?yap?p?dika? vi??u? k?rayet p?rvakarma?? / an?ditv?t karma?a? ca na virodha? katha?cana // Please do let me know where you found this if you have run across this ?loka in a sm?ti text somewhere. All the best, Andrew Andrew J. Nicholson, Ph.D. Associate Professor (on leave 2018-2019) Asian & Asian American Studies Stony Brook University Stony Brook, NY 11794-5343 USA (631) 632-4030 Visiting Associate Professor and Stewart Fellow (2018-2019) 1879 Hall, Room 232 Department of Religion Princeton University Princeton, NJ 08544 USA (609) 258-4485 http://philosophicalrasika.com/ _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) Elliot M. Stern 552 South 48th Street Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029 emstern1948 at gmail.com 267-240-8418 _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From slaje at kabelmail.de Fri Jan 18 18:16:31 2019 From: slaje at kabelmail.de (Walter Slaje) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 19 19:16:31 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Extension of Sanskrit Heritage tools with connection to Amba Kulkarni's parser In-Reply-To: <4493E283-29C0-4F25-98EA-B3E60CB58348@inria.fr> Message-ID: Certainly a welcome development, but > this wonderful grammatical analysis really calls for a thorough revision before activating it. The very few searches I could make yielded inexplicable, in parts unbelievably wrong results. Anyone may see for themselves if they just test the declension of "adas", "idam", "ubhaya" (displaying dual forms, but no fem.), "sarv?" (fem.), "dos / do?an", "ana?uh", "asthi", and many more. In the hands of Sanskrit beginners who lack grammatical training this database will do more harm than good. I can only warn against its use until it has seen a very careful revision by experts. 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In-Reply-To: <3F09A1E6-8DCE-4339-9AF5-A7087DF51538@unil.ch> Message-ID: Thanks to all who responded to my question, on and off list, with such alacrity. It is a plausible hypothesis that Madhva created the verse and it was later cited as sm?ti by Baladeva in his commentary on BS 2.1.35. In the 20th century it was erroneously attributed by some scholars (beginning with S.C. Vasu in 1912?) to the Bhavi?ya Pur??a. With best wishes, Andrew Andrew J. Nicholson, Ph.D. Associate Professor (on leave 2018-2019) Asian & Asian American Studies Stony Brook University Stony Brook, NY 11794-5343 USA (631) 632-4030 Visiting Associate Professor and Stewart Fellow (2018-2019) 1879 Hall, Room 232 Department of Religion Princeton University Princeton, NJ 08544 USA (609) 258-4485 http://philosophicalrasika.com/ On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 1:04 PM Johannes Bronkhorst < johannes.bronkhorst at unil.ch> wrote: > This verse is mentioned in Roque Mesquita?s *Madhvas Zitate aus den > Pur??as und dem Mah?bh?rata: Eine analytische Zusammenstellung nicht > identifizierbarer Quellenzitate in Madhvas Werken nebst ?bersetzung und > Anmerkungen* (Wien 2007 p. 58) as one of many unidentifiable quotations > that may have been invented by Madhva himself. > > Johannes Bronkhorst > > On 18 Jan 2019, at 18:55, David and Nancy Reigle via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > This verse is not in the Bhavisya-purana according to the sloka index that > was added to the Nag Publisher's reprint of the Venkatesvara Steam Press > edition. I checked for both lines. > > Best regards, > > David Reigle > Colorado, U.S.A. > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 10:30 AM Elliot Stern via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> I cannot verify this, but Demian Martins says the source >> is bhavi?yapur??am (https://bkdemian.blogspot.com/2010/10/karma.html): >> >> punya-papadikam visnuh karayet purva-karmana >> anaditvat karmanas ca na virodhah kathancana >> (Bhavisya Purana, quoted in the Govinda-bhasya, 2.1.35) >> >> >> Elliot >> >> >> On Jan 18, 2019, at 11:41 AM, Andrew Nicholson via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> The following verse appears in Madhva's and Baladeva's commentaries on >> the Brahmas?tra. I suspect it appears in one or more Pur??as: >> >> pu?yap?p?dika? vi??u? k?rayet p?rvakarma?? / >> an?ditv?t karma?a? ca na virodha? katha?cana // >> >> Please do let me know where you found this if you have run across this >> ?loka in a sm?ti text somewhere. >> >> All the best, >> Andrew >> >> >> Andrew J. Nicholson, Ph.D. >> Associate Professor (on leave 2018-2019) >> Asian & Asian American Studies >> Stony Brook University >> Stony Brook, NY 11794-5343 USA >> (631) 632-4030 >> >> Visiting Associate Professor and Stewart Fellow (2018-2019) >> 1879 Hall, Room 232 >> Department of Religion >> Princeton University >> Princeton, NJ 08544 USA >> (609) 258-4485 >> http://philosophicalrasika.com/ >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> >> >> Elliot M. 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URL: From scharfpm7 at gmail.com Sat Jan 19 07:03:44 2019 From: scharfpm7 at gmail.com (Peter Scharf) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 19 12:33:44 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Extension of Sanskrit Heritage tools with connection to Amba Kulkarni's parser In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I checked the declension of *adas* and sarva (f.) on the Sanskrit Heritage site by going to the dictionary and clicking on the gender identifier. The paradigms are correct. What do you find incorrect and where? Yours, Peter On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 11:47 PM Walter Slaje via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Certainly a welcome development, but > > > this wonderful grammatical analysis > > really calls for a thorough revision before activating it. The very few > searches I could make yielded inexplicable, in parts unbelievably wrong > results. Anyone may see for themselves if they just test the declension of > "adas", "idam", "ubhaya" (displaying dual forms, but no fem.), "sarv?" > (fem.), "dos / do?an", "ana?uh", "asthi", and many more. In the hands of > Sanskrit beginners who lack grammatical training this database will do > more harm than good. I can only warn against its use until it has seen a > very careful revision by experts. > > Kind regards, > WS > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -- ******************* Peter M. Scharf scharfpm7 at g mail.com ******************* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From slaje at kabelmail.de Sat Jan 19 10:15:00 2019 From: slaje at kabelmail.de (Walter Slaje) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 19 11:15:00 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Extension of Sanskrit Heritage tools with connection to Amba Kulkarni's parser In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Professor Scharf, I checked the Sanskrit Grammarian Query page under ?Declension? ( https://sanskrit.inria.fr/DICO/grammar.fr.html), which under the header ?The Sanskrit Grammarian: Declension? yielded the nominatives singular, dual and plural as *adas??* - *adasau* - *adasa?* for *adas* (m.), to give only one example. Meanwhile it was explained to me off-line by Professor Huet that the Sanskrit Grammarian Query page - despite its name - is not the proper site to check declensional and conjugational forms of Sanskrit grammar. So I searched the ?Dictionnaire H?ritage du Sanscrit? page in the proper way as recommended and as you will have done. There, and only there, the correct declension of *adas* (as *asau ? am? ? am?*) is displayed. Searching this presumably correct Heritage site for some additional stems and roots on a random basis, I chanced upon a number of further, quite obvious inaccuracies. Here are some of them, since I have been asked for samples: *ubhaya*: A set of obviously mechanically generated dual declension for *ubhaya*, which word however has no dual in the classic language. *dos* (n.): wrong forms *dot* (sg.) - *dosi* (pl.); *dodbhy?m* (Du.); *dodbhi?*, etc. *asthan* (n.): wrong alternative dual form *asth? .* Root *?s*2: wrong 2nd plural forms *?sdhve / ?sddhve / ?sdhvam / ?sddhvam.* Root *t?h* is missing. Root *d?*3: wrong ?tmane? s-Aorist forms 2nd and 3rd singular *adi??h??*, *adi??a*. Root *dh?*3: wrong ?tmane? 3rd singular *adh?yi*. Root *??s*: wrong 3rd plural imperfect ending *a?i?an*. Root *s?*3: Imperative ?. 1st and 2nd *s?yai* ? *s?yasva*. As I had earlier pointed out to Professor Huet in private, and I am repeating it now publicly, my criticism was not intended to expose or run down other scholars, nor to belittle the great and truly laudable efforts he has indeed made. It was meant as a warning that the tool in its present shape is not yet absolutely reliable. Sanskrit grammar is too serious a matter for a discipline like ours. An unchecked grammar tool released on this list cannot be left uncommented. In the hand of the uninitiated beginner it will cause damage until it has seen a careful revision by its editors, which was exactly my humble suggestion: to call for a revision before it is activated for the public. Regards, WS Am Sa., 19. Jan. 2019 um 08:03 Uhr schrieb Peter Scharf : > I checked the declension of *adas* and sarva (f.) on the Sanskrit > Heritage site by going to the dictionary and clicking on the gender > identifier. The paradigms are correct. What do you find incorrect and > where? > Yours, > Peter > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 11:47 PM Walter Slaje via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Certainly a welcome development, but >> >> > this wonderful grammatical analysis >> >> really calls for a thorough revision before activating it. The very few >> searches I could make yielded inexplicable, in parts unbelievably wrong >> results. Anyone may see for themselves if they just test the declension of >> "adas", "idam", "ubhaya" (displaying dual forms, but no fem.), "sarv?" >> (fem.), "dos / do?an", "ana?uh", "asthi", and many more. In the hands of >> Sanskrit beginners who lack grammatical training this database will do >> more harm than good. I can only warn against its use until it has seen a >> very careful revision by experts. >> >> Kind regards, >> WS >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > > -- > ******************* > Peter M. Scharf > scharfpm7 at g mail.com > ******************* > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Sat Jan 19 16:46:34 2019 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 19 08:46:34 -0800 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Continuing my Krishna verses Message-ID: Continuing my Krishna verses ?????? ????? ?? ??? ?: ?????????? ? ??????????????? ????? ????? ???: ??????? ?iva, the Lord of Um?, and Vi??u, the Lord of M?, are both always acceptable to us. 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All the best, Jim From kauzeya at gmail.com Sun Jan 20 09:43:39 2019 From: kauzeya at gmail.com (Jonathan Silk) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 19 10:43:39 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] pdf request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: anticipating that others may also ask for it, as happens regularly, I attach the scan here. On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 8:49 AM James Mallinson via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > Would anyone happen to have a copy of Paranavitana, S. ?Mah?y?nism in > Ceylon?. Ceylon Journal of Sciences II (December 1928-February 1933) pp. > 35-71? I can?t find it online at the usual places. SOAS has the journal > (offsite), but I am travelling. I can order it through Oxford?s excellent > scan and deliver service, but I thought I'd try here first. > > All the best, > > Jim > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -- J. Silk Leiden University Leiden University Institute for Area Studies, LIAS Matthias de Vrieshof 3, Room 0.05b 2311 BZ Leiden The Netherlands copies of my publications may be found at https://leidenuniv.academia.edu/JASilk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I can order it through Oxford?s excellent scan and deliver service, but I thought I'd try here first. > > All the best, > > Jim From mailmealakendudas at rediffmail.com Mon Jan 21 10:26:50 2019 From: mailmealakendudas at rediffmail.com (alakendu das) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 19 10:26:50 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] MIMANSHA -in order of Chronology. Message-ID: <20190121102650.30722.qmail@f4mail-235-189.rediffmail.com> Respected Scholars, While studying the six schools of Indian philosophy,I have got stuck over one point. If anybody may kindly enlighten me on whether Shankhya came earlier or was it Purva Mimansha? There seems to be least doubt that Uttar Mimansha or Vedanta came after Shankya( since it has been observed that Vadarayan in Brama-Sutra has exercised a lot of reasoning to refute Shankhya), but I am a little confused about the Sankhya-Purva Mimansha chronology. ALAKENDU DAS. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Yamashita Message-ID: On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 at 11:26, Jan E.M. Houben wrote: > Dear Ken, > Congratulations on the publication of this precious and voluminous > contribution by you and T. Yamashita on these important commentators on one > of Ayurveda's core texts, the Carakasamhita. By making the result of years > of meticulous study, a little booklet, freely accessible to scholars and > students you have indebted us all to your erudition and generosity. > Jan > > On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 at 09:40, Kenneth Gregory Zysk via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Dear List, >> >> >> >> To those who are interested, I should like to mention a recent article on >> the *Caraka Sa?hit? *and its commentarial tradition, published in the >> most recent issue of eJIM: http://www.indianmedicine.nl: >> >> *Sanskrit Medical Scholasticism ?Jajja?a?s Nirantarapadavy?khy? and Other >> Commentaries on the Carakasa?hit?, Cikits?sth?na 2.1?* >> >> Kenneth G. Zysk and Tsutomu Yamashita >> >> All the best, >> >> Ken >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > > -- > > *Jan E.M. Houben* > > Directeur d'?tudes, Professor of South Asian History and Philology > > *Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite* > > ?cole Pratique des Hautes ?tudes (EPHE, PSL - Universit? Paris) > > *Sciences historiques et philologiques * > > 54, rue Saint-Jacques, CS 20525 ? 75005 Paris > > *johannes.houben at ephe.sorbonne.fr * > > *johannes.houben at ephe.psl.eu * > > *https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben > * > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It contains the nATyazAstram with the abhinavabharati in 3 volumes from the Gaekwads Oriental series . https://muktabodha.org/digital-library/ It is in the "searchable e-text library" section of the library. Use username: muktabodha password: indology Click on nAtyazAstram Vol 1, nAtyazAstram Vol 2, nAtyazAstram Vol 3. It is available in a searchable e-text in unicode transliteration and as a pdf in devanagari. Regards, Harry Spier On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 4:01 PM Ram-Prasad, Chakravarthi via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear all, > > Does anyone have a reasonably cleaned up electronic copy of the > *Abhinavabh?rat?*? > > Thank you. > > Ram > > > Chakravarthi Ram-Prasad > Fellow of the British Academy > Distinguished Professor of Comparative Religion and Philosophy > Department of Politics, Philosophy and Religion > Lancaster University LA1 4YL > U.K. > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Use username: muktabodha password: indology Click on nAtyazAstram Vol 1, nAtyazAstram Vol 2, nAtyazAstram Vol 3. It is available in a searchable e-text in unicode transliteration and as a pdf in devanagari. Regards, Harry Spier On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 4:01 PM Ram-Prasad, Chakravarthi via INDOLOGY > wrote: Dear all, Does anyone have a reasonably cleaned up electronic copy of the Abhinavabh?rat?? Thank you. Ram Chakravarthi Ram-Prasad Fellow of the British Academy Distinguished Professor of Comparative Religion and Philosophy Department of Politics, Philosophy and Religion Lancaster University LA1 4YL U.K. _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Are you looking for English materials? On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 11:13 AM Harry Spier via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear list members, > > Can any list members point me to articles or books on the Sandhya daily > rituals (preferably in pdf form).. I've been told that this is performed > differently by the different vedic sakhas so any articles or information on > that would also be appreciated. > > Thanks, > Harry Spier > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. Director, Inter-University Centre for Indic Knowledge Systems. BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ondracka at ff.cuni.cz Wed Jan 23 09:24:32 2019 From: ondracka at ff.cuni.cz (=?utf-8?Q?Lubom=C3=ADr_Ondra=C4=8Dka?=) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 19 09:24:32 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Descriptions of the Sandhya rituals In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20190123102517.80bb245e2b73b113d40b860f@ff.cuni.cz> Dear Harry, an old classic, The Daily Practice of the Hindus: Containing the morning and midday duties, by Srisa Chandra Vasu (rev. ed, published in 1909), has three chapters on sandhy? by "Rig Vedins, S?ma-Vedins, and Yajur-Vedins". I think this book may serve you as a starting point in your inquiry. https://archive.org/details/SacredBooksOfTheHindusVol00TheDailyPracticeOfTheHindus Best, Lubomir On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 00:42:20 -0500 Harry Spier via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear list members, > > Can any list members point me to articles or books on the Sandhya daily > rituals (preferably in pdf form).. I've been told that this is performed > differently by the different vedic sakhas so any articles or information on > that would also be appreciated. > > Thanks, > Harry Spier From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com Wed Jan 23 10:18:14 2019 From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 19 15:48:14 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Descriptions of the Sandhya rituals In-Reply-To: <20190123102517.80bb245e2b73b113d40b860f@ff.cuni.cz> Message-ID: http://www.vignanam.org/veda/nitya-sandhya-vandanam-english.html On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 3:06 PM Lubom?r Ondra?ka via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear Harry, > > an old classic, The Daily Practice of the Hindus: Containing the morning > and midday duties, by Srisa Chandra Vasu (rev. ed, published in 1909), has > three chapters on sandhy? by "Rig Vedins, S?ma-Vedins, and Yajur-Vedins". I > think this book may serve you as a starting point in your inquiry. > > > https://archive.org/details/SacredBooksOfTheHindusVol00TheDailyPracticeOfTheHindus > > Best, > Lubomir > > > On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 00:42:20 -0500 > Harry Spier via INDOLOGY wrote: > > > Dear list members, > > > > Can any list members point me to articles or books on the Sandhya daily > > rituals (preferably in pdf form).. I've been told that this is performed > > differently by the different vedic sakhas so any articles or information > on > > that would also be appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > Harry Spier > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. Director, Inter-University Centre for Indic Knowledge Systems. BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Wed Jan 23 14:29:45 2019 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 19 06:29:45 -0800 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Continuing my Krishna verses Message-ID: Continuing my Krishna verses ?????????? ??? ????? ??? ???????? ????? ? ??? ????????????? ??: ????????????? ??????? Just as the flowing rivers disappear in the ocean, similarly all disputations disappear in the great ocean of Krishna. Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan [Residence: Campbell, California] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Applications should be in English, and be submitted no later than 1 March 2019. Campus interviews are tentatively planned for early April. For the full call, please see Leiden University's website: https://www.universiteitleiden.nl/en/vacancies/2019/q1/19-019-6005-university-lecturer-in-sanskrit-and-ancient-cultures-of-south-asia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com Wed Jan 23 20:40:26 2019 From: hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com (Harry Spier) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 19 15:40:26 -0500 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Descriptions of the Sandhya rituals In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thank you to Nagaraj Paturi, G Krishnaprasad, Marion Rastelli, Lubomir Ondracka, Christophe Vielle, and Madhav Deshpande for sending me links to the relevant articles. Harry Spier On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 12:54 AM Nagaraj Paturi wrote: > Resources are huge on this. > > But mostly in Indian languages. > > Are you looking for English materials? > > On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 11:13 AM Harry Spier via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Dear list members, >> >> Can any list members point me to articles or books on the Sandhya daily >> rituals (preferably in pdf form).. I've been told that this is performed >> differently by the different vedic sakhas so any articles or information on >> that would also be appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> Harry Spier >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > Director, Inter-University Centre for Indic Knowledge Systems. > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > > BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala > > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies > > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, > > (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The Fellowship will be announced annually, providing the IASS budget is able to sustain the expense. Thank you. With apologies for multiple postings, J. Soni Secretary General of the IASS The website of the IASS: http://www.sanskritassociation.org/index.php -- From mmdesh at umich.edu Fri Jan 25 15:15:38 2019 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 19 07:15:38 -0800 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Continuing my Krishna verses Message-ID: Continuing my Krishna verses ??????? ? ????? ?????????? ????: ? ??? ??????? ??????? ?????? ???????: ??????? This Krishna is not one, and not many, and he is one and also many. In all these alternatives, Krishna is hiding. Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan [Residence: Campbell, California] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Dr. Chakrabarti, I am very sad to be informed about the premature passing away of Prof. Chlodwig Werba, author of numerous articles in the domain of Vedic (including on "prakritic wordforms in the Rgvedasamhita) and Indo-european studies and especially of "Werba's Verba Indoiranica, Part I". He used to sanskritize his name as ?ruta-vega and write brief sentences in Sanskrit -- for instance the dedication in the copy of his Verba Indoiranica which he sent me in 1997/98 -- long before courses in spoken and functional Sanskrit became fashionable. Is there anywhere a list of his publications available online? Condolences to his family, colleagues, friends and students. Jan Houben *** *** *** on p. ix of his Verba Indoiranica Chlodwig Werba quotes (I intentionally use the present tense here) a stanza in the Kath?mukha of the Pa?catantra anantap?ra? kila ?abda??stra? svalpa? tath?yur bahava? ca vighn?? / s?ra? tato gr?hyam ap?sya phalgu ha?sair yath? k??ram iv?mbumadhy?t // For this he gives a liberal and metrical translation into English: Since verbal science has no final end ; since life is short, and obstacles impend, let central facts be picked and firmly fixed, as swans extract the milk with water mixed ! *** *** *** On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 at 08:29, Dr. Debabrata Chakrabarti via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > I am sorry to inform the learned circle that my friend Prof. Dr. Chlodwig > Werba of the South Asian Institute of Indoloy & Tibetan Studies in Vienna > has died a premature death on 25 January 2019. We miss not only an > outstanding scholar of Indology, but a man of intense feeling and a heart > full of humour. May he attain Sadgati. > Photo Courtesy: Edgar Leitan > > > > > > > > > ???This body is like a musical instrument; what you hear depends upon how > you play it.??? ??? Anandamayi Ma > > ???Inside every human being there exists a special heaven, whole and > unbroken.??? - Paracelsus > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -- *Jan E.M. Houben* Directeur d'?tudes, Professor of South Asian History and Philology *Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite* ?cole Pratique des Hautes ?tudes (EPHE, PSL - Universit? Paris) *Sciences historiques et philologiques * 54, rue Saint-Jacques, CS 20525 ? 75005 Paris *johannes.houben at ephe.sorbonne.fr * *johannes.houben at ephe.psl.eu * *https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jemhouben at gmail.com Tue Jan 29 18:06:44 2019 From: jemhouben at gmail.com (Jan E.M. Houben) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 19 19:06:44 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Passing Away of Prof. Dr. Chlodwig Werba! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: found the following list online on the university website without indication that he passed away... https://ucris.univie.ac.at/portal/de/persons/chlodwig-h-werba(88283a73-c246-4c13-9668-78e1acc6677e)/publications.html On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 at 16:34, Jan E.M. Houben wrote: > Dear Dr. Chakrabarti, > I am very sad to be informed about the premature passing away of Prof. > Chlodwig Werba, author of numerous articles in the domain of Vedic > (including on "prakritic wordforms in the Rgvedasamhita) > and Indo-european studies and especially of "Werba's Verba Indoiranica, > Part I". > He used to sanskritize his name as ?ruta-vega and write brief sentences in > Sanskrit -- for instance the dedication in the copy of his Verba > Indoiranica which he sent me in 1997/98 -- long before courses in spoken > and functional Sanskrit became fashionable. > Is there anywhere a list of his publications available online? > Condolences to his family, colleagues, friends and students. > Jan Houben > *** *** *** > on p. ix of his Verba Indoiranica Chlodwig Werba quotes (I intentionally > use the present tense here) > a stanza in the Kath?mukha of the Pa?catantra > > anantap?ra? kila ?abda??stra? > svalpa? tath?yur bahava? ca vighn?? / > s?ra? tato gr?hyam ap?sya phalgu > ha?sair yath? k??ram iv?mbumadhy?t // > > For this he gives a liberal and metrical translation into English: > > Since verbal science has no final end ; > since life is short, and obstacles impend, > let central facts be picked and firmly fixed, > as swans extract the milk with water mixed ! > *** *** *** > > > > On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 at 08:29, Dr. Debabrata Chakrabarti via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> I am sorry to inform the learned circle that my friend Prof. Dr. Chlodwig >> Werba of the South Asian Institute of Indoloy & Tibetan Studies in Vienna >> has died a premature death on 25 January 2019. We miss not only an >> outstanding scholar of Indology, but a man of intense feeling and a heart >> full of humour. May he attain Sadgati. >> Photo Courtesy: Edgar Leitan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ???This body is like a musical instrument; what you hear depends upon >> how you play it.??? ??? Anandamayi Ma >> >> ???Inside every human being there exists a special heaven, whole and >> unbroken.??? - Paracelsus >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > > -- > > *Jan E.M. Houben* > > Directeur d'?tudes, Professor of South Asian History and Philology > > *Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite* > > ?cole Pratique des Hautes ?tudes (EPHE, PSL - Universit? Paris) > > *Sciences historiques et philologiques * > > 54, rue Saint-Jacques, CS 20525 ? 75005 Paris > > *johannes.houben at ephe.sorbonne.fr * > > *johannes.houben at ephe.psl.eu * > > *https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben > * > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hamsa.stainton at gmail.com Tue Jan 29 18:35:53 2019 From: hamsa.stainton at gmail.com (Hamsa Stainton) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 19 13:35:53 -0500 Subject: [INDOLOGY] New summer languages programs for Sanskrit and Tibetan at McGill University Message-ID: Dear colleagues, I?m delighted to share (with apologies for cross-posting) that we will be offering both introductory Sanskrit and Tibetan at McGill University this summer. McGill, one of Canada?s premier universities, is located in the heart of Montreal, a multilingual, culturally diverse and dynamic city. Intensive first-year Sanskrit and intensive first-year Colloquial Tibetan are being offered by the School of Religious Studies through the McGill Summer Language Institute. The dates for these courses are: May 6-June 7, 2019: Colloquial Tibetan (RELG 269; 6 credits) June 10-July 17, 2019: Intensive Introductory Sanskrit (RELG 257D1-D2; 6 credits) Additional information about registration, tuition, and housing is available through our website: https://www.mcgill.ca/religiousstudies/summer-languages. I have attached a flyer for these new summer courses and we would be grateful if you could share this information with your students and colleagues. Please don?t hesitate to be in touch with any questions. With thanks and best wishes, Hamsa Hamsa Stainton Assistant Professor School of Religious Studies McGill University Birks Building 307 (514) 398-3962 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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May he attain Sadgati. > Photo Courtesy: Edgar Leitan > > > > > > > > > ???This body is like a musical instrument; what you hear depends upon how > you play it.??? ??? Anandamayi Ma > > ???Inside every human being there exists a special heaven, whole and > unbroken.??? - Paracelsus > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aparpola at gmail.com Tue Jan 29 19:06:47 2019 From: aparpola at gmail.com (Asko Parpola) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 19 21:06:47 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Passing Away of Prof. Dr. Chlodwig Werba! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <622C322F-A565-49AA-9D95-C3F60F77B22C@gmail.com> I am really sorry to hear of the premature death on 25 January 2019 of my old friend Chlodwig (which name he sanskritized as ;Srutavega, at one time used in his e-mail address and elsewhere), especially as the last time I was in contact with him, he was in a very happy mood. I take the liberty of quoting these very private messages, also as a consolation to his surely devastated wife: 24 Nov 2017: the ensuing weekend ? my patnii and I will celebrate our 243rd maasika vivaahadina. 26 Nov 2017: By the way, yesterday we just had a wonderful Chinese lunch, some shopping and a private concert with some piano pieces of Mozart (sanskritized by me yathaartham as Mok.saartha), Bach and Gershwin I played for my wife. A bunch of flowers introduced the whole on Friday evening. ? Yours happily, Chlodwig A little earlier, 14 Nov 2017, he had written me: "For the time being I am concentrating on the second volume of my VIA [Verba Indo-Arica] (II: Radices secundariae) for which I?ll be looking for a fine printer in the second half of next year.? Although the first volume, I: Radices primariae (1997, 600 pp.), was printed by the publishing house of the Viennese Academy of Sciences, it was not included in any publication series (apparently the author was too shy to ask), and Werba had to pay the printing himself. It is to be hoped that his Viennese colleagues now have the second volume duly published in an appropriate series. If one glances at the publications of Chlodwig Werba between 2000 and 2016 that he has listed on his homepage (https://ucris.univie.ac.at/portal/de/persons/chlodwig-h-werba(88283a73-c246-4c13-9668-78e1acc6677e)/publications.html) , one is struck that a prominent place among the is occupied by eleven volumes of Wiener Zeitschrift f?r die Kunde S?dasiens (each approximately 250-300 pages). Chlodwig Werba is mentioned only in the third place among the editors, but knowing his extreme carefulness, he must have spent much of his time on the editing of these volumes. In fact, he was an editor of this important journal already before 2000 (e.g. number 38/1994 containing the Festschrift of his teacher Gerhard Oberhammer, xix, 522 pp.). One can get an idea of the meticulous perfectionism characteristic of Chlodwig Werba from the extensive indices (pp. 587-679) that he compiled to the very important and voluminous study of the Vedic ritual by Hertha Krick (1945-1979), his Viennese colleague who passed away at the age of 33, published posthumously in 1982: Das Ritual der Feuergr?ndung (Agnyaadheya). In his preface the editor, Gerhard Oberhammer, acknowledges Werba?s work, which make the rich contents of the study truly accessible, in the following words: ?? Es ist das besondere Verdienst von Herrn Chlodwig Werba, Studienassistent am Institut f?r Indologie, diese Register mit grosser Gr?ndlichkeit und Sachkenntnis hergestellt zu haben? (p. VII). Werba?s list of publications does not include his Viennese doctoral dissertation from 1982, which indeed has remained unpublished: Die arischen Personennamen und ihre Tr?ger bei den Alexanderhistorikern: Studien zur iranischen Anthronomastik (xix, 403 pp.). Considering the importance of Aryan personal names among the publications of the Viennese Academy of Sciences, perhaps a posthumous publication is worth consideration. Sit tibi terra levis! Asko > On 29 Jan 2019, at 20.38, Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY > wrote: > > Sad news indeed. > > Madhav M. Deshpande > Professor Emeritus > Sanskrit and Linguistics > University of Michigan > [Residence: Campbell, California] > > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 11:29 PM Dr. Debabrata Chakrabarti via INDOLOGY > wrote: > I am sorry to inform the learned circle that my friend Prof. Dr. Chlodwig Werba of the South Asian Institute of Indoloy & Tibetan Studies in Vienna has died a premature death on 25 January 2019. We miss not only an outstanding scholar of Indology, but a man of intense feeling and a heart full of humour. May he attain Sadgati. > > Photo Courtesy: Edgar Leitan > > > > > > > > > > > > > ???This body is like a musical instrument; what you hear depends upon how you play it.??? ??? 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Does anybody know where I can find it (not on archive.org, as far as I see), or would share her copy? Thanks, Oliver --- Oliver Hellwig, IVS Z?rich/SFB 991 D?sseldorf, Germany From kiepue at t-online.de Wed Jan 30 10:28:16 2019 From: kiepue at t-online.de (=?utf-8?Q?Petra_Kieffer-P=C3=BClz?=) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 19 11:28:16 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Publication announcement Message-ID: <8D8687F7-C6A7-43F2-8A12-CABD1FB55403@t-online.de> Dear List Members, I would like to draw your attention to the most recent number of Buddhism, Law & Society Vol. 3 (2017?2018), a SPECIAL VOLUME ON MONASTIC GOVERNANCE IN SOUTH AND SOUTHEAST ASIA. For the contents, see below With best wishes, Petra Kieffer-P?lz CONTENTS Ben Schonthal, Guest Editor?s Introduction: Buddhist Legal Pluralism? Looking Again at Monastic Governance in Modern South and Southeast Asia. Abstract: Contrary to popular stereotypes, Buddhist monks do not live in separate, cloistered worlds sealed off from domestic and international lawmaking, courts and politics. Buddhist monks (like most people) live in a complex situation of legal pluralism. They act as agents and subjects in multiple regulatory regimes: from monastic tribunals, to constitutional law, to transnational legal bodies. This article, which introduces a special issue of Buddhism, Law & Society, identifies several foci of inquiry that may orient current and future scholarship on the legal pluralism of Buddhist monastic life in contemporary Southern Asia. These include: the prevalence of ?hybrid? laws that merge together monastic and state authority; the participation of monks in lawmaking and adjudication; the significance of monasticism as a legal status; the reproduction of legal authority through ordination and lineage; the multiplicity of monastic disciplinary ?texts? beyond the Vinaya Pi?aka; and the transformations (and endurances) of legal pluralism over time. Matthew Walton and Aung Tun, Monks and Ambiguities of Law in Myanmar. Abstract: In this article, we look at four recent case studies in Myanmar, moments of contestation over legal authority in which monks or monkled groups challenged the boundaries or principles of monastic authority, intervened in the realm of secular law, were constrained by both religious and secular authorities, or found ways to challenge or circumvent those authorities. We argue that these moments of contestation are enabled by the democratic reforms taking place unevenly across Myanmar?s political terrain, which have generated opportunities for the state to intervene in monastic affairs and created possibilities for religious actors to influence the state and civil laws. These cases demonstrate the limits of formal monastic authority and reveal ambiguities in civil and religious jurisdiction over mass-membership lay-monastic organizations such as 969 and Ma Ba Tha. Monica Lindberg Falk and Hiroko Kawanami, Monastic Discipline and Communal Rules for Buddhist Nuns in Myanmar and Thailand. Abstract: This study explores the contemporary social reality of Buddhist precept nuns in Myanmar and Thailand through the lens of the monastic regulations and communal rules they adhere to, and how/if such rules inform their monastic discipline and communal cohesion. The concept of cohesion, in turn, may have much to tell us about nuns? ritual practices and religious activities in relation to those of monks, as well as about their engagement with the outside world. The article also discusses nuns? legal status in relation to the state, the traditional norms for Buddhist women in various socio-religious contexts, and the workings of hierarchy, authority and punishment in nunneries. In recent decades, some Buddhist nuns in both countries have expanded the size of their communities and enhanced their levels of education in part by upholding discipline and following Buddhist rules and norms. However, the dynamics differ between Myanmar and Thailand. While thilashin in Myanmar have worked closely with monks by offering ritual services (and are now fully integrated into the wider Buddhist community there), mae chi in Thailand have enhanced their education and spiritual development by making the most of their independent status outside the control of the sangha. Ben Schonthal, Litigating Vinaya: Buddhist Law and Public Law in Contemporary Sri Lanka. Abstract: How do contemporary legal systems affect the interpretation and application of religious laws such as Buddhist monastic law? What happens when Buddhists turn to public litigation to dispute the meanings of the Vinaya Pi?aka, the monastic disciplinary code? This article answers these questions by looking closely at recent court cases from Sri Lanka. It argues against the influential assumption that contemporary legal regimes stabilize and narrow interpretations of religious law. It illustrates instead how certain domains of modern legality, especially constitutional law, create new opportunities, spaces and incentives for destabilizing and pluralizing the interpretation of religious norms. Drawing on original legal submissions, draft bills, interviews and other sources from the ?expanded archive? of law, I explain why the use of constitutional law has broadened debates about Buddhist monastic law, its core rules, key texts and regulatory role in the modern world. Thomas Borchert and Susan M. Darlington, Political Disrobing in Thailand. Abstract: Thai monks disrobe all the time as a part of the normal course of things. Normally this is a result of life choices made by monks themselves, but sometimes disrobing is compelled. Monks are forced to disrobe ostensibly because they committed an infraction of the disciplinary codes of Buddhism, the Vinaya. However, in this paper we argue that this compelled disrobing is not so straightforward but the product of political efforts to remove a monk who is seen as an obstacle to achieving some sort of political goal or a threat to political power. Further we argue that the legal environment, with monks being governed by a sometimes confusing mix of religious and secular laws, makes possible the use of disrobing as a political tool. Michael R. Chladek. Imagined Laity and the Performance of Monasticism in Northern Thailand. Abstract: This article explores ways in which a monastic community in northern Thailand, with whom I conducted ethnographic field research between 2011 and 2014, constructed a sense of duty to their ascetic disciplines in relation to how they thought their lay supporters expected them to approach their rules. Drawing on insights from the social sciences on how group identities are created and maintained through performance, I focus particularly on lay-monastic relations to understand how monks and novices in this context construct a monastic in-group by conforming to the expectations of the lay community who support them. Rather than concentrating on how the monastic community engages the actual lay community, though, I focus on how monastics orient their behavior towards an ?imagined laity,? a lay community which may not exist in reality but upon whom monastics project ideas of what they think laypeople expect out of them and how laity may react to certain behaviors. This projection of expectations onto an imagined laity, I argue, is an important mechanism by which the monastic community self-regulates its behavior and which shapes its understanding of monastic rules. Gregory Kourilsky and Patrice Ladwig, Governing the Monastic Order in Laos: Pre-modern Buddhist Legal Traditions and Their Transformation under French Colonialism. Abstract: Governing and administering the sa?gha has been described as an inherent part of the enactment of Buddhist statecraft in the pre-modern Therav?da world. With the development of modern forms of statehood under colonialism, however, new forms of governing evolved. Focusing on the pre-modern and colonial phases, this article discusses the laws and procedures that were deployed in Laos for governing the sa?gha. We first give an outline of the pre-modern laws that concern monks and the order of monks, and in the second part explore how these laws were adapted and modified by the French colonial regime. Despite the introduction of modern forms of governance, we propose that there are also strong continuities to be found. 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All the best, Jim From rembert at ochs.org.uk Wed Jan 30 12:49:54 2019 From: rembert at ochs.org.uk (Rembert Lutjeharms) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 19 12:49:54 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Sanskrit Traditions in the Modern World - 24th May 2019, Oxford In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear colleagues, The Sanskrit Traditions in the Modern World symposium, which was for many years held at the University of Manchester, will take place in Oxford this year. I have been asked to forward the following announcement, below. Apologies for cross-posting. Best wishes, Rembert *Sanskrit Traditions in the Modern World * *Friday 24th May 2019 * Oxford Centre for Hindu Studies The STIMW symposium for 2019 will take place in Oxford on Friday 24th May, at the Oxford Centre for Hindu Studies. We invite proposals for papers from both established and rising academics on any aspects of South Asia?s rich Sanskrit religious and intellectual culture. Sanskrit Traditions in the Modern World (STIMW) is a forum for the discussion of the Sanskrit traditions of South Asia, and the texts and cultures that have risen out of them. Proposals should be submitted by *Friday 1st March 2019*. The STIMW Website can be found here: *http://sanskrittraditions.ml/ * Older archives and information for past STIMW events at the University of Manchester can be found here: *https://www.alc.manchester.ac.uk/religions-and-theology/connect/events/stimw/ * *Papers and Format *- Papers are presented by leading scholars in the field as well as by research students. Papers are pre-circulated so that participants can read them before the seminar to ensure the best possible use of discussion time. Papers are therefore not read out at the seminar itself but instead briefly introduced by the chair who will then raise questions to the paper-giver, before opening the discussion. Papers should be no longer than 20 A4 pages, including notes and references. To facilitate discussion for those short of reading time, paper-givers should provide a one-page abstract of the key argument of the paper, along with their paper. Please include your email address for further feedback. *Venue* Oxford Centre for Hindu Studies, 15 Magdalen Street Oxford OX1 3AE Email: info at ochs.org.uk Tel: 01865 304300 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Wed Jan 30 14:15:54 2019 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 19 06:15:54 -0800 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Continuing my Krishna verses Message-ID: Continuing my Krishna verses ??????? ??????????? ?????? ?? ??????????? ? ????????? ????????? ?????????????????? ??????? I am neither asking for oneness with you nor difference from you, if these are devoid of feeling. I desire your glance flowing with waters of love. Madhav M. 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Chlodwig often shared with me his reflections on classical music, which moved him deeply. On more general topics - never philology! - we sometimes disagreed, even vigorously, but we always found reconciliation after a few minutes and our relations remained strongly cordial. Chlodwig was an intense and passionate man, who loved Sanskrit and Indology as much as he loved classical music and his own instrument, the pianoforte, that afforded him joy and fulfilment beyond words. It is hard to know that he is no longer with us. -- Professor Dominik Wujastyk , Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity , Department of History and Classics , University of Alberta, Canada . South Asia at the U of A: sas.ualberta.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Our Heritage', 3 (Calcutta 1955) "Our Heritage" is apparently hard to find. Best regards and many thanks in advance, Dominik Haas __________________ *Dominik Haas, BA MA* PhD student, University of Vienna dominik.haas at univie.ac.at ORCID: 0000-0002-8505-6112 univie.academia.edu/DominikHaas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ondracka at ff.cuni.cz Thu Jan 31 11:33:21 2019 From: ondracka at ff.cuni.cz (=?utf-8?Q?Lubom=C3=ADr_Ondra=C4=8Dka?=) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 19 11:33:21 +0000 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Paper_request_=E2=80=93_"Our_Heritage"?= In-Reply-To: <18c83217-c89c-8f07-2e4b-a6397d484416@univie.ac.at> Message-ID: <20190131123409.c57b106f3cb83996ae922ade@ff.cuni.cz> Dear Dominik, several volumes of Our Heritage (including those you need) are available on the DLI mirror site: https://dli.sanskritdictionary.com/. Best, Lubomir On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 12:06:45 +0100 Dominik Haas via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear list members, > > Would anyone have scans of these papers: > > V. Ch. Bhattacharyya, 'Application of ?gveda mantras rubricated in the > Aitareya-Br?hma?a',? Our Heritage, 1 (Calcutta 1953) > > V. Ch. Bhattacharyya, 'An aspect of justification of ?k-mantras in the > AiB.,? Our Heritage', 3 (Calcutta 1955) > > "Our Heritage" is apparently hard to find. > > Best regards and many thanks in advance, > Dominik Haas > > > > __________________ > *Dominik Haas, BA MA* > PhD student, University of Vienna > dominik.haas at univie.ac.at > ORCID: 0000-0002-8505-6112 > univie.academia.edu/DominikHaas > From mmdesh at umich.edu Thu Jan 31 15:21:39 2019 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 19 07:21:39 -0800 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Continuing my Krishna verses Message-ID: Continuing my Krishna verses ? ???????? ????? ????? ????????????????? ? ??????? ?? ?????? ??????? ??????? ?????????: ??????? O Krishna, I do not desire victory in the battlefield of dry logic. Having obtained your friendship, what other celebration of victory do I need? Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan [Residence: Campbell, California] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thankful for any help, M?ns -- Dr. M?ns Broo Senior Lecturer of Comparative Religion Editor of Temenos, Nordic Journal of Comparative Religion ?bo Akademi University Fabriksgatan 2 FI-20500 ?bo, Finland phone: +358-2-2154398 fax: +358-2-2154902 mobile: +358-50-5695754 From hellwig7 at gmx.de Thu Jan 31 19:17:11 2019 From: hellwig7 at gmx.de (Oliver Hellwig) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 19 20:17:11 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] New version of the DCS In-Reply-To: <195b5342-1e74-34ff-e2cd-335233f3faa6@gmx.de> Message-ID: <4f2eb51e-c4b9-f646-b7c4-29dcd055652a@gmx.de> Dear all, a new version of the DCS has been released using a new URL: http://www.sanskrit-linguistics.org/dcs/ Better to memorize, anyway! The new version contains a number of Vedic texts, including the RV, larger parts of the Shaunakiya version of the AV, and related stuff. Be careful: Some citations of these texts have gone wrong (e.g. ShBr 5.2.1 instead of the correct citation 2.5.1). This is a bug in the export routine, and I hope to fix it at some point. Moreover, the DCS now has a built-in functionality to annotate syntactic dependencies, using the Universal Dependency tag set (see here: https://universaldependencies.org/). Some sample annotations are attached to the first hymns of the first book of the AV; check, for instance, AVS 1.1. I feel that having dep. anno for larger parts of the Sanskrit corpus would be of enormous use for linguistic research. So, if you would like to add dependencies on some texts of the DCS, please contact me for login credentials and access to the preliminary version of the annotation guidelines (Latex). You may even train a neural network based dependency annotator, which greatly speeds up annotation (but, unfortunately, does not seem to run in all browsers => Anybody acquainted with tensorflowJS and willing to improve it?) All annotations will be released on github along with the rest of the corpus. Best, Oliver From jemhouben at gmail.com Thu Jan 31 21:29:05 2019 From: jemhouben at gmail.com (Jan E.M. Houben) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 19 22:29:05 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] New version of the DCS In-Reply-To: <4f2eb51e-c4b9-f646-b7c4-29dcd055652a@gmx.de> Message-ID: Dear Oliver, Brilliant! Thanks for making this new research tool available. Your text plus your own annotated "pada-p??ha" for Vedic and classical Sanskrit texts is extremely useful. I did a quick test for a few texts. As for RV 1.1.1, last word (which we discussed earlier): in the Rgveda the root dh? (cp. Gk. tith?mi "I establish" and IE *dh?) is synchronically to be distinguished from d? (cp. Gk. did?mi "I give, confer" and IE *d?), even if the two converge in meaning in classical Sanskrit as attested by the meaning annotations of these two roots in various Dh?tu-p??has. A better meaning annotation would then be "best establisher of" (this will apply to other occurrences, as in varivo-dh?tama). (For the subtle but not insignificant meaning difference compare "Brot geben" and "Brot schaffen".) After all, the reconstructed IE form underlying English "fact" and French "faire" is ... *dh? (which in its o-grade also underlies English "do" and German "tun", Dutch "doen", old Germanic "d?n" which has remained "d?n" in my own native Limburgian (east low Franconian) dialect), definitely not *d?. The somewhat surprising semantic closeness of *dh? and "faire" is confirmed by the entirely appropriate annotation by Geldner, ad loc. RV 1.1.1; still, in Vedic the verb is, of course, not flatly synonymous with kr, so from this perspective too "best establisher of" would be a suitable annotation. And the meaning annotation of ratna should be slimmed down: "classical" meanings such as "gem" can, no: should, be left out in an annotation of a Rgvedic hymn. Best regards, Jan On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 at 20:17, Oliver Hellwig via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear all, > > a new version of the DCS has been released using a new URL: > http://www.sanskrit-linguistics.org/dcs/ > > Better to memorize, anyway! > > The new version contains a number of Vedic texts, including the RV, > larger parts of the Shaunakiya version of the AV, and related stuff. > Be careful: Some citations of these texts have gone wrong (e.g. ShBr > 5.2.1 instead of the correct citation 2.5.1). This is a bug in the > export routine, and I hope to fix it at some point. > > Moreover, the DCS now has a built-in functionality to annotate syntactic > dependencies, using the Universal Dependency tag set (see here: > https://universaldependencies.org/). Some sample annotations are > attached to the first hymns of the first book of the AV; check, for > instance, AVS 1.1. > I feel that having dep. anno for larger parts of the Sanskrit corpus > would be of enormous use for linguistic research. So, if you would like > to add dependencies on some texts of the DCS, please contact me for > login credentials and access to the preliminary version of the > annotation guidelines (Latex). You may even train a neural network based > dependency annotator, which greatly speeds up annotation (but, > unfortunately, does not seem to run in all browsers => Anybody > acquainted with tensorflowJS and willing to improve it?) > All annotations will be released on github along with the rest of the > corpus. > > Best, Oliver > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -- *Jan E.M. Houben* Directeur d'?tudes, Professor of South Asian History and Philology *Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite* ?cole Pratique des Hautes ?tudes (EPHE, PSL - Universit? Paris) *Sciences historiques et philologiques * 54, rue Saint-Jacques, CS 20525 ? 75005 Paris *johannes.houben at ephe.sorbonne.fr * *johannes.houben at ephe.psl.eu * *https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: