[INDOLOGY] Correction and updates of Nirnay Sagar Fonts

Dominik Wujastyk wujastyk at gmail.com
Fri Feb 22 23:02:07 UTC 2019


Found it!  It was done in 1990 by James E. Agenbroad, and is called "Difficult
Characters
<https://www.dropbox.com/s/tfbemsft06wdm1c/Agenbroad_1990_Difficult%20Characters.pdf?dl=0>."
It was presented as a paper at the 33rd International Congress of Asian and
North African Studies in Toronto in 1990.  Agenbroad lists 866 conjunct
characters.



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On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 07:23, Krishnaprasad G via INDOLOGY <
indology at list.indology.info> wrote:

> Dear Harry Spier
> Thanks a lot this great. You helped me a lot.
> Dear all before creating fonts I was searching a lot for the most used
> conjuncts in Sanskrit(not Vedic) but could not found, I am glad that
> Dominik Wujastyk is going to send the list and I am waiting for that.
> And for benefit of others, I am sharing all the important conjuncts here.
>
> क्क क्त क्त्य क्त्व क्न क्न्य क्म क्य क्र क्र्य क्ल क्व क्ष क्ष्ण क्ष्म
> क्ष्म्य क्ष्य क्ष्व ख्य ग्ध ग्न ग्न्य ग्र ग्र्य ग्ल ग्व घ्न घ्न्य घ्य घ्र
> घ्र्य ध्व ङ्क ङ्ख ङ्ख्य ङ्क्त ङ्क्त्य च्च च्छ च्छ्र च्छ्व च्म च्य ज्ज ज्र
> ज्र्य ज्व ट्ट ट्त्रि ट्य ट्सु ट्स ठ्य ठ्र ठ्सु ड्ग ड्म ड्य ढ्व ढ्य ण्ण ण्म
> ण्य ण्व त्त त्त्य त्त्र त्थ थ्य त्न त्न्य न्त्र्य त्प त्प्र त्फ त्म त्म्य
> त्य त्र त्र्य त्व त्स त्स्न त्स्न्य त्स्य द्ग द्ग्र द्द द्द्य द्ध द्ब द्ब्र
> द्भ द्ध्य द्म द्य द्र द्र्य द्व द्व्य द्व्र  ध्न ध्न्य न्न न्न्य न्म न्य
> न्व प्त प्त्य प्न प्म प्य प्र प्ल प्स प्स्य ब्ज ब्द ब्द्य ब्ध ब्य ब्र भ्ण
> भ्न भ्य भ्र भ्व म्म म्ण म्ण्य म्य म्र म्ल म्व य्व र्ण्य र्ध्व र्व्य
> र्त्स्न्य ल्क ल्ग ल्प ल्म ल्य ल्ल ल्व व्य व्र श्च श्न श्म श्य श्र श्ल श्व
> ष्क ष्क्र ष्ट ष्ट्य ष्ट्र ष्ट्व ष्ठ ष्ठ्य ष्ण ष्प ष्प्र ष्म ष्य ष्व स्क स्ख
> स्त स्त्य स्थ स्थ्य स्न स्प्र स्फ स्म स्य स्र ह्ण ह्न ह्न्य ह्म ह्य ह्र
> ह्ल ह्व
>
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 8:53 AM Harry Spier <hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Dear Krishnaprasad,
>> I've attached a pdf of 4 examples of the cluster ṭtr taken from the the
>> paper transcripts of the IFP .  These are handwritten in  the 50's and 60's
>> .  They are by different scribes and they all use virama.  I didn't find
>> any in the IFP transcripts that had the tra underneath, but I stopped
>> searching after these four.
>>
>> Harry Spier
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 9:15 PM Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY <
>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Krishnaprasad Ji,
>>>
>>>      I don't have access to a manuscript of Ṣaṭtriṃśattattvasandoha, but
>>> here is the title page of the printed book that does not use a cluster of
>>> "tra" hanging below "ṭ", but prints just "ṭ" with a virāma sign.
>>>
>>> [image: image.png]
>>> On the other hand, the title page of the edition in the Kashmir Text
>>> Series, uses such a vertical cluster:
>>>
>>> [image: image.png]
>>> However, it looks somewhat odd in its appearance to me.
>>>
>>> Madhav M. Deshpande
>>> Professor Emeritus
>>> Sanskrit and Linguistics
>>> University of Michigan
>>> [Residence: Campbell, California]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 10:12 AM Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Krishnaprasad Ji,
>>>>
>>>>      Great to see your progress.  A comment.  Some horizontal lines,
>>>> like that न, look thicker than the top line and lines in some other
>>>> characters.  The thickness should be uniform.  Similarly, the knot for न,
>>>> म, भ etc. should look exactly the same, and it should look the same whether
>>>> it appears in full or half forms of these characters.
>>>>
>>>> Madhav M. Deshpande
>>>> Professor Emeritus
>>>> Sanskrit and Linguistics
>>>> University of Michigan
>>>> [Residence: Campbell, California]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 9:58 AM Krishnaprasad G via INDOLOGY <
>>>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear all
>>>>> Some more characters.
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> KP
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu 27 Dec, 2018, 8:11 PM Madhav Deshpande, <mmdesh at umich.edu>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Krishnaprasad Ji,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Thank you so much for this download link.  It is a wealth of
>>>>>> useful resources.  With best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Madhav M. Deshpande
>>>>>> Professor Emeritus
>>>>>> Sanskrit and Linguistics
>>>>>> University of Michigan
>>>>>> [Residence: Campbell, California]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 7:22 PM Krishnaprasad G <
>>>>>> krishnaprasadah.g at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, everyone for supporting me giving feedbacks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can download from here.
>>>>>>> https://yadi.sk/d/rDIogm1J3WjKp4
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 8:43 AM Harry Spier <
>>>>>>> hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dominink Wujastyk wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  modern font technology can help.  OpenType includes some
>>>>>>>>> "alternates" or "contextual alternates" features that allow the user (or
>>>>>>>>> auto-select) to select from multiple versions of a glyph.  But I'm sure you
>>>>>>>>> know this.  And it's only certain advanced text-setting programs like TeX
>>>>>>>>> that allow one to access such features easily (e.g., through
>>>>>>>>> fontspec <https://ctan.org/pkg/fontspec?lang=en>, manual part IV).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I use the FontCreator program from Hi-Logic which allows you to
>>>>>>>> create open type "contextual features".  I've used this feature. I use the
>>>>>>>> professional product which retails for $199.00 but their website says that
>>>>>>>> the Home edition for $79.00 also has this feature (but the home edition
>>>>>>>> cannot be used for commercial purposes).  The program only works on windows.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Such questions make me wish to consult Naik's classic work *Typography
>>>>>>>>> of Devanagari <http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/6241715>* (3 vols,
>>>>>>>>> 1971 rev. ed.), but I've never had access to a copy of this rare
>>>>>>>>> publication.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have this book. (Unfortunately its in storage in New York). Its
>>>>>>>> been 20 years since I looked at it but I recall it was absolutely
>>>>>>>> fascinating.  As I recall  one volume gives examples of devanagari printing
>>>>>>>> from the earliest printed editions up till fairly modern times (when it was
>>>>>>>> published), another volume  describes the authors ideas for a devanagari
>>>>>>>> typewriter and the third volume focuses on some esoteric ideas of the
>>>>>>>> author.  I can't recall the details.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Harry Spier
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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