[INDOLOGY] Correction and updates of Nirnay Sagar Fonts

Thu Feb 21 14:10:24 UTC 2019

Dear Krishnaprasad,

     As a Pāṇinian, I would suggest that you look at the Nirnaya Sagar
Pothi print of the Aṣṭādhyāyī for Sanskrit conjuncts.  So many conjuncts
that occur in the Aṣṭādhyāyī do not occur anywhere else, and yet we must be
able to represent those in a serious Sanskrit font.  The other issue that
occurs to me is the ability to combine accent marks and candrabindu for
nasality.  The other complicated representation of Devanagari occurs in the
writing of Śukla Yajurveda, where numerous conjuncts occur that are
normally not seen elsewhere.  Again the Nirnaya Sagara pothi prints are
very useful in this regard.

Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor Emeritus
Sanskrit and Linguistics
University of Michigan
[Residence: Campbell, California]

On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 6:03 AM Krishnaprasad G <krishnaprasadah.g at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear Elliot Stern
> Thanks a lot for sending the image of MSS. I am grateful to you.
> Thanks
> KP
>
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 2:38 AM Elliot Stern <emstern1948 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Here’s a detail from the Mysore ms of padārthasaṅgrahaṭīkā “vyomavatī”:
>>
>>
>>
>> Elliot
>>
>> On Feb 19, 2019, at 2:06 PM, Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY <
>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Krishnaprasad Ji,
>>
>>      I checked two manuscripts of the Aṣṭādhyāyī for एत्येधत्यूठ्सु and
>> here are the scans:
>> [image: image.png]
>> [image: image.png]
>> In neither of these manuscripts, you see a cluster with स handing below
>> ट.  It would be great if someone could check a manuscript of Ṣaṭtriṃśat
>> Tattvasandoha for the treatment of the cluster "ṭtri".  Best wishes,
>>
>> Madhav M. Deshpande
>> Professor Emeritus
>> Sanskrit and Linguistics
>> University of Michigan
>> [Residence: Campbell, California]
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 5:59 AM Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Will see if I find something.
>>>
>>> Madhav M. Deshpande
>>> Professor Emeritus
>>> Sanskrit and Linguistics
>>> University of Michigan
>>> [Residence: Campbell, California]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 11:53 PM Krishnaprasad G <
>>> krishnaprasadah.g at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  I will try to search the instance. How about एत्येधत्यूठ्सु ??
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> On Tue 19 Feb, 2019, 10:16 AM Madhav Deshpande, <mmdesh at umich.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If you remember a textual occurrence of द्विट्सु, it may be easier to
>>>>> check in the manuscript images that I have.  Off-hand, I do not remember
>>>>> seeing a स hanging under ट.
>>>>>
>>>>> Madhav M. Deshpande
>>>>> Professor Emeritus
>>>>> Sanskrit and Linguistics
>>>>> University of Michigan
>>>>> [Residence: Campbell, California]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 7:18 PM Krishnaprasad G <
>>>>> krishnaprasadah.g at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Sri Madhav Deshpande Acharya Ji
>>>>>> Thanks a lot for providing the images of ट्त्र, and personally l took
>>>>>> like ट्त्र itself and not the hanging one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This we can change in rules. If 2 or 3 seconds pause is given at the
>>>>>> time of typeset we will get ट्त्र otherwise we will get the hanging one.
>>>>>> could you please suggest how द्विट्सु  is written in old MSS
>>>>>> Thanks a lot
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Krishna Prasad
>>>>>> Whatsapp Number
>>>>>> 963282891
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 7:45 AM Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Krishnaprasad Ji,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      I don't have access to a manuscript of Ṣaṭtriṃśattattvasandoha,
>>>>>>> but here is the title page of the printed book that does not use a cluster
>>>>>>> of "tra" hanging below "ṭ", but prints just "ṭ" with a virāma sign.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: image.png]
>>>>>>> On the other hand, the title page of the edition in the Kashmir Text
>>>>>>> Series, uses such a vertical cluster:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: image.png]
>>>>>>> However, it looks somewhat odd in its appearance to me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Madhav M. Deshpande
>>>>>>> Professor Emeritus
>>>>>>> Sanskrit and Linguistics
>>>>>>> University of Michigan
>>>>>>> [Residence: Campbell, California]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 10:12 AM Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear Krishnaprasad Ji,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      Great to see your progress.  A comment.  Some horizontal
>>>>>>>> lines, like that न, look thicker than the top line and lines in some other
>>>>>>>> characters.  The thickness should be uniform.  Similarly, the knot for न,
>>>>>>>> म, भ etc. should look exactly the same, and it should look the same whether
>>>>>>>> it appears in full or half forms of these characters.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Madhav M. Deshpande
>>>>>>>> Professor Emeritus
>>>>>>>> Sanskrit and Linguistics
>>>>>>>> University of Michigan
>>>>>>>> [Residence: Campbell, California]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 9:58 AM Krishnaprasad G via INDOLOGY <
>>>>>>>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear all
>>>>>>>>> Some more characters.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>> KP
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu 27 Dec, 2018, 8:11 PM Madhav Deshpande, <mmdesh at umich.edu>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear Krishnaprasad Ji,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>      Thank you so much for this download link.  It is a wealth of
>>>>>>>>>> useful resources.  With best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Madhav M. Deshpande
>>>>>>>>>> Professor Emeritus
>>>>>>>>>> Sanskrit and Linguistics
>>>>>>>>>> University of Michigan
>>>>>>>>>> [Residence: Campbell, California]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 7:22 PM Krishnaprasad G <
>>>>>>>>>> krishnaprasadah.g at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, everyone for supporting me giving feedbacks.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You can download from here.
>>>>>>>>>>> https://yadi.sk/d/rDIogm1J3WjKp4
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 8:43 AM Harry Spier <
>>>>>>>>>>> hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dominink Wujastyk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  modern font technology can help.  OpenType includes some
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "alternates" or "contextual alternates" features that allow the user (or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> auto-select) to select from multiple versions of a glyph.  But I'm sure you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> know this.  And it's only certain advanced text-setting programs like TeX
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that allow one to access such features easily (e.g., through
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fontspec <https://ctan.org/pkg/fontspec?lang=en>, manual part
>>>>>>>>>>>>> IV).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I use the FontCreator program from Hi-Logic which allows you to
>>>>>>>>>>>> create open type "contextual features".  I've used this feature. I use the
>>>>>>>>>>>> professional product which retails for $199.00 but their website says that
>>>>>>>>>>>> the Home edition for $79.00 also has this feature (but the home edition
>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot be used for commercial purposes).  The program only works on windows.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Such questions make me wish to consult Naik's classic work *Typography
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Devanagari <http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/6241715>* (3
>>>>>>>>>>>>> vols, 1971 rev. ed.), but I've never had access to a copy of this rare
>>>>>>>>>>>>> publication.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have this book. (Unfortunately its in storage in New
>>>>>>>>>>>> York). Its been 20 years since I looked at it but I recall it was
>>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely fascinating.  As I recall  one volume gives examples of
>>>>>>>>>>>> devanagari printing from the earliest printed editions up till fairly
>>>>>>>>>>>> modern times (when it was published), another volume  describes the authors
>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas for a devanagari typewriter and the third volume focuses on some
>>>>>>>>>>>> esoteric ideas of the author.  I can't recall the details.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Harry Spier
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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