[INDOLOGY] Correction and updates of Nirnay Sagar Fonts

Madhav Deshpande mmdesh at umich.edu
Tue Feb 19 19:06:52 UTC 2019


Dear Krishnaprasad Ji,

     I checked two manuscripts of the Aṣṭādhyāyī for एत्येधत्यूठ्सु and
here are the scans:
[image: image.png]
[image: image.png]
In neither of these manuscripts, you see a cluster with स handing below ट.
It would be great if someone could check a manuscript of Ṣaṭtriṃśat
Tattvasandoha for the treatment of the cluster "ṭtri".  Best wishes,

Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor Emeritus
Sanskrit and Linguistics
University of Michigan
[Residence: Campbell, California]


On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 5:59 AM Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu> wrote:

> Will see if I find something.
>
> Madhav M. Deshpande
> Professor Emeritus
> Sanskrit and Linguistics
> University of Michigan
> [Residence: Campbell, California]
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 11:53 PM Krishnaprasad G <
> krishnaprasadah.g at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  I will try to search the instance. How about एत्येधत्यूठ्सु ??
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> On Tue 19 Feb, 2019, 10:16 AM Madhav Deshpande, <mmdesh at umich.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> If you remember a textual occurrence of द्विट्सु, it may be easier to
>>> check in the manuscript images that I have.  Off-hand, I do not remember
>>> seeing a स hanging under ट.
>>>
>>> Madhav M. Deshpande
>>> Professor Emeritus
>>> Sanskrit and Linguistics
>>> University of Michigan
>>> [Residence: Campbell, California]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 7:18 PM Krishnaprasad G <
>>> krishnaprasadah.g at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Sri Madhav Deshpande Acharya Ji
>>>> Thanks a lot for providing the images of ट्त्र, and personally l took
>>>> like ट्त्र itself and not the hanging one.
>>>>
>>>> This we can change in rules. If 2 or 3 seconds pause is given at the
>>>> time of typeset we will get ट्त्र otherwise we will get the hanging one.
>>>> could you please suggest how द्विट्सु  is written in old MSS
>>>> Thanks a lot
>>>>
>>>> Krishna Prasad
>>>> Whatsapp Number
>>>> 963282891
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 7:45 AM Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Krishnaprasad Ji,
>>>>>
>>>>>      I don't have access to a manuscript of Ṣaṭtriṃśattattvasandoha,
>>>>> but here is the title page of the printed book that does not use a cluster
>>>>> of "tra" hanging below "ṭ", but prints just "ṭ" with a virāma sign.
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: image.png]
>>>>> On the other hand, the title page of the edition in the Kashmir Text
>>>>> Series, uses such a vertical cluster:
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: image.png]
>>>>> However, it looks somewhat odd in its appearance to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Madhav M. Deshpande
>>>>> Professor Emeritus
>>>>> Sanskrit and Linguistics
>>>>> University of Michigan
>>>>> [Residence: Campbell, California]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 10:12 AM Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Krishnaprasad Ji,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Great to see your progress.  A comment.  Some horizontal lines,
>>>>>> like that न, look thicker than the top line and lines in some other
>>>>>> characters.  The thickness should be uniform.  Similarly, the knot for न,
>>>>>> म, भ etc. should look exactly the same, and it should look the same whether
>>>>>> it appears in full or half forms of these characters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Madhav M. Deshpande
>>>>>> Professor Emeritus
>>>>>> Sanskrit and Linguistics
>>>>>> University of Michigan
>>>>>> [Residence: Campbell, California]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 9:58 AM Krishnaprasad G via INDOLOGY <
>>>>>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear all
>>>>>>> Some more characters.
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> KP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu 27 Dec, 2018, 8:11 PM Madhav Deshpande, <mmdesh at umich.edu>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear Krishnaprasad Ji,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      Thank you so much for this download link.  It is a wealth of
>>>>>>>> useful resources.  With best regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Madhav M. Deshpande
>>>>>>>> Professor Emeritus
>>>>>>>> Sanskrit and Linguistics
>>>>>>>> University of Michigan
>>>>>>>> [Residence: Campbell, California]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 7:22 PM Krishnaprasad G <
>>>>>>>> krishnaprasadah.g at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks, everyone for supporting me giving feedbacks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You can download from here.
>>>>>>>>> https://yadi.sk/d/rDIogm1J3WjKp4
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 8:43 AM Harry Spier <
>>>>>>>>> hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dominink Wujastyk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  modern font technology can help.  OpenType includes some
>>>>>>>>>>> "alternates" or "contextual alternates" features that allow the user (or
>>>>>>>>>>> auto-select) to select from multiple versions of a glyph.  But I'm sure you
>>>>>>>>>>> know this.  And it's only certain advanced text-setting programs like TeX
>>>>>>>>>>> that allow one to access such features easily (e.g., through
>>>>>>>>>>> fontspec <https://ctan.org/pkg/fontspec?lang=en>, manual part
>>>>>>>>>>> IV).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I use the FontCreator program from Hi-Logic which allows you to
>>>>>>>>>> create open type "contextual features".  I've used this feature. I use the
>>>>>>>>>> professional product which retails for $199.00 but their website says that
>>>>>>>>>> the Home edition for $79.00 also has this feature (but the home edition
>>>>>>>>>> cannot be used for commercial purposes).  The program only works on windows.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Such questions make me wish to consult Naik's classic work *Typography
>>>>>>>>>>> of Devanagari <http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/6241715>* (3 vols,
>>>>>>>>>>> 1971 rev. ed.), but I've never had access to a copy of this rare
>>>>>>>>>>> publication.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have this book. (Unfortunately its in storage in New York). Its
>>>>>>>>>> been 20 years since I looked at it but I recall it was absolutely
>>>>>>>>>> fascinating.  As I recall  one volume gives examples of devanagari printing
>>>>>>>>>> from the earliest printed editions up till fairly modern times (when it was
>>>>>>>>>> published), another volume  describes the authors ideas for a devanagari
>>>>>>>>>> typewriter and the third volume focuses on some esoteric ideas of the
>>>>>>>>>> author.  I can't recall the details.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Harry Spier
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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