[INDOLOGY] sha and kha

Wed Sep 12 13:54:05 UTC 2018

I have not looked at Michael’s material, but this phenomenon is widespread even in classical Sanskrit and Prakrits. Perhaps it had to do with regional pronunciations. The word that comes to mind is “pāṣaṇḍa” with no obvious Indo-European etymology (see the forthcoming paper by Joel Brereton in my edited volume on the Gṛhastha).

It has several variants: earliest in Aśoka is pāsaṃḍa (with variants in different locations), and in Sanskrit generally pāṣaṇḍa, and often also pākhaṇḍa. In Jain Prakrit also the form pāsattha. I find both pākhaṇḍa and pāṣaṇḍa forms in manuscripts in various scripts.

Patrick

On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:40 AM, Arlo Griffiths via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info<mailto:indology at list.indology.info>> wrote:

There is frequent reference to the same phenomenon in some of Michael Witzel's "Materials on Vedic Śākhās", his series of articles published in various journals in the 1970s-1990s.

Arlo Griffiths

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Dear Colleagues,

I am very interested in this equivalence, because what I remember having learned (I am not sure now whether this is the right word) that kha/ṣa "confusion" was a characteristic of Nepalese manuscripts, and that they were to be considered the same (I perhaps learned this from John Brough's lengthy review of Edgerton's Buddhist Hybrid Sanskrit Grammar and Dictionary, if memory serves...). But now it appears that this is not a "quirk" of Nepalese scribes but an instance of a wider phonologically motivated fusion?

Curious, Jonathan Silk

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 6:51 AM, jhakgirish via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info<mailto:indology at list.indology.info>> wrote:
Dear colleagues
Sorry for the mistake due to haste.Both snushaa and snokhaa have the meaning
daughter-in-law and not grand daughter.
Girish K.Jha

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Dear colleaguesThere is a sutra in Shukla yajuh praatishaakhya i.e." shah khah tumrite" It means retroflex sha is pronounced as kha except combined with the group t(tavarga).Hence in Shuklayajurveda it is pronouncedas kha. But in kashta,vishnu,etc. It is pronounced as sha.Almost all over India it is pronounced as kha in Shuklayajusha. I would like to mention that in our Mithila(North Bihar) retroflex sha is not only pronounced in Shuklayajusha but in ClassicalSanskrit too pronounced as kha and also inMaithili Language( a modern Indo-Aryan).It would not be out of the context what I would say.It has been coming from the Indo-European period.There is a Russian parallel "snokhaa" which resembles Sanskrit "snushaa" but both have the same meaning i.e.grand daughter.RegardsGirish K.JhaRetd. Univ.ProfessorDept of SanskritPatna UniversityPatna:India 800005(Residence-Kolkata:India)Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.-------- Original message --------From: V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com<mailto:v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>> Date: 9/12/18 7:06 AM  (GMT+05:30) To: BHARATIYA VIDVAT <bvparishat at googlegroups.com<mailto:bvparishat at googlegroups.com>> Subject: Re: {भारतीयविद्वत्परिषत्} Re: पुरुषसूक्तम् -- शुक्ल यजुर्वेद On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 6:23 AM Shashi Joshi <shashikgp at gmail.com<mailto:shashikgp at gmail.com>> wrote:Interestingly this same ष ---> ख pronunciation transition is seen in Rajasthan. My grandfather would say words likeखडयन्त्र (षड्यन्त्र )पुख्य (पुष्य नक्षत्र)सुखेण (सुषेण in Hanuman Chalisa)लक्ष्मी becoming लकुमी is common in Kannada poetry.  ಏನು ಧನ್ಯಳೋ ಲಕುಮಿSubmitted by shreekant.mishrikoti on Tue, 06/01/2009 - 03:19(ರಾಗ ತೋಡಿ ಅಟತಾಳ)ಏನು ಧನ್ಯಳೋ ಲಕುಮಿಎಂಥ ಮಾನ್ಯಳೋಸಾನುರಾಗದಿಂದ ಹರಿಯತಾನೆ ಸೇವೆ ಮಾಡುತಿಹಳೋ ||ಪ|-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "भारतीयवि��

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