[INDOLOGY] The Buddha's body in a vat of oil

[Jonathan Silk]

However.... there is for example an expression in a Gandhari
Mahaparinirvana fragment (SC 2179/44a recto): ayaṁsa droni telena, which
pretty much seems to imply (fill) an iron barrel with oil.
This and some other passages are discussed in my Body Language booklet.

Jonathan

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 9:08 AM Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY <
indology at list.indology.info> wrote:

> Dear Dominik,
>
> Does what applies to Skt *droṇam* (ntr) also apply to Pāli *doṇī *(fem.)?
> I have to add that I find it hard to believe that the body was indeed
> immersed in a bathtub full of oil.
>
> Herman
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> *Van:* INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Dominik
> Wujastyk via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info]
> *Verzonden:* vrijdag 23 november 2018 19:14
> *Aan:* ALAKENDU DAS
> *CC:* Indology
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [INDOLOGY] The Buddha's body in a vat of oil
>
> "teli-dona" in Sanskrit would be "taila-droṇam".  This expression occurs
> twice in the *Carakasaṃhitā*.  In both cases it should be understood not
> in the sense of "a barrel of oil," but rather "ten litres of oil."  A
> *droṇa* is a unit of measure (see *Roots of Ayurveda* "Śarṅgadhara on
> weights measures and definitions."  A droṇa is not exactly ten litres, but
> roughly so.
>
> When the *Carakasaṃhitā* gives its longevity instructions at Ca.ci.4.7,
> the patient is to be put in a barrel and the word is *droṇa*: s*nehabhāvitāyām
> ārdrapalāśadroṇyāṃ sapidhānāyāṃ digvāsāḥ śayīta* "he should lie naked in
> a palāśa-wood barrel that has been steeped with oil, covered with a lid."  (
> *Roots*, "Rejuvenation through Soma" in the Suśruta chapter).
>
> My conclusion is that although there are oiled barrels in classical
> Ayurveda, a teli-dona isn't a barrel of oil, but rather an amount of oil.
>
> Best,
> Dominik
>
>
> --
> Professor Dominik Wujastyk <http://ualberta.academia.edu/DominikWujastyk>
> ,
>
> Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity
> ,
>
> Department of History and Classics
> <http://historyandclassics.ualberta.ca/>
> ,
> University of Alberta, Canada
> .
>
> South Asia at the U of A:
>
> sas.ualberta.ca
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>
>
> On Fri, 23 Nov 2018 at 03:31, alakendu das via INDOLOGY <
> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>
>> Dr.Karp,
>> I apologise for being a little late in citing a probable reference
>> vis-a-vis your query.I could access my library
>> only yesterday evening,where I came across the book"The Vedantic Buddhism
>> of Buddha"by J.G.Gennings(Oxford University Press ,1948).Pg 427 of the book
>> g
>> brings out the fact,that after Buddha's Mahaparinirvana,HIS body was
>> first wrapped in unsoiled garment and cotton,and then laid on an oil-trough
>> to form the pyre.This has reference in the Khudda Nikaya of the Sutta
>> pitaka.The word Teli-Dona implies oil-trough.
>> Alakendu Das.
>> Sent from RediffmailNG on Android
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Artur Karp via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info>
>> Sent: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 21:47:59 GMT+0530
>> To: indology <indology at list.indology.info>
>> Subject: [INDOLOGY] The Buddha's body in a vat of oil
>>
>> pali tela-doni, sanskrit taila-droni.
>>
>> Was the body placed in cold - or hot oil?
>>
>> Any mention of the oil's temperature in the accessible sources?
>>
>> Artur Karp (ret)
>> Chair of South Asian Studies,
>> University of Warsaw
>> Poland
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