[INDOLOGY] "Caste passing"

Artur Karp karp at uw.edu.pl
Sun Jan 21 17:35:07 UTC 2018


> There is no God in Hinduism.

Thank you for this bit of instruction.

> In any case this has nothing to do with caste passing under question here.
​It has. Plenty. Disguises in both directions.


2018-01-21 12:47 GMT+01:00 Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi at gmail.com>:

> There is no God in Hinduism.
>
> In any case this has nothing to do with caste passing under question here.
>
> On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 5:10 PM, Artur Karp <karp at uw.edu.pl> wrote:
>
>> And - the cases of God showing himself to the believers in the body of a
>> Chandala?
>>
>> Artur Karp
>>
>> 2018-01-21 12:33 GMT+01:00 Manu Francis via INDOLOGY <
>> indology at list.indology.info>:
>>
>>> Dear Nagaraj Paturi,
>>>
>>> Yes, you are right.
>>> Novels are also part of the query.
>>>
>>> With very best wishes.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Emmanuel Francis
>>> Chargé de recherche CNRS, Centre d'étude de l'Inde et de l'Asie du Sud
>>> (UMR 8564, EHESS-CNRS, Paris)
>>> http://ceias.ehess.fr/
>>> http://ceias.ehess.fr/index.php?1725
>>> http://rcsi.hypotheses.org/
>>> Associate member, Centre for the Study of Manuscript Culture (SFB 950,
>>> Universität Hamburg)
>>> http://www.manuscript-cultures.uni-hamburg.de/index_e.html
>>> https://cnrs.academia.edu/emmanuelfrancis
>>>
>>> 2018-01-21 10:16 GMT+01:00 Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> The query was for
>>>>
>>>> "I am searching for *references in** Indian literature* and *classical
>>>> texts *of instances of "caste impersonation", i.e. when an individual
>>>> or a group "passes" as a caste which is not their original birth group. My
>>>> search includes such instances in *contemporary literature*"
>>>> (highlighting mine)
>>>>
>>>> Since the first sentence has Indian literature and classical texts , I
>>>> thought 'contemporary literature' in the second sentence means contemporary
>>>> literary texts such as novels. Am I right?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 2:56 AM, Tyler Williams via INDOLOGY <
>>>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Addendum: one of his publications that bears directly on the subject
>>>>> is:
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014. “Lal Beg Underground: the Passing of an ‘Untouchable’ God.” In
>>>>> Knut A. Jacobsen, Mikael Aktor and Kristina Myrvold, eds., *Objects
>>>>> of Worship in South Asian Religions: Forms, Practices, and Meanings*,
>>>>> pp. 143-162. New York: Routledge.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 3:25 PM, Tyler Williams <
>>>>> tylerwwilliams at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Dr. Francis,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joel Lee <https://anso.williams.edu/profile/jl20/> at Williams
>>>>>> College in the US has written on the phenomenon of caste 'passing' in
>>>>>> contemporary South Asia and is also interested in historical and literary
>>>>>> precedents. I am sure that it would be fine if Dr. Headley contacted him
>>>>>> directly, but I would also be happy to introduce them if she prefers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Tyler Williams
>>>>>> University of Chicago
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 10:56 AM, Manu Francis via INDOLOGY <
>>>>>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Colleagues,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I forward below a query on behalf my Colleague Zoé Headley.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (on her current project "Studies in Tamil Studio Archives and
>>>>>>> Society (S.T.A.R.S.)"
>>>>>>> see e.g:
>>>>>>> http://www.ifpindia.org/content/studies-tamil-studio-archive
>>>>>>> s-and-society-stars
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> http://www.lemonde.fr/sciences/video/2018/01/19/une-autre-hi
>>>>>>> stoire-de-l-inde-ecrite-par-ses-photos_5244050_1650684.html)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any help will be much appreciated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Her query is:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "I am searching for references in Indian literature and classical
>>>>>>> texts of instances of "caste impersonation", i.e. when an individual or a
>>>>>>> group "passes" as a caste which is not their original birth group. My
>>>>>>> search includes such instances in contemporary literature"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With very best wishes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Emmanuel Francis
>>>>>>> Chargé de recherche CNRS, Centre d'étude de l'Inde et de l'Asie du
>>>>>>> Sud (UMR 8564, EHESS-CNRS, Paris)
>>>>>>> http://ceias.ehess.fr/
>>>>>>> http://ceias.ehess.fr/index.php?1725
>>>>>>> http://rcsi.hypotheses.org/
>>>>>>> Associate member, Centre for the Study of Manuscript Culture (SFB
>>>>>>> 950, Universität Hamburg)
>>>>>>> http://www.manuscript-cultures.uni-hamburg.de/index_e.html
>>>>>>> https://cnrs.academia.edu/emmanuelfrancis
>>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Nagaraj Paturi
>>>>
>>>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra
>>>>
>>>> BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala
>>>>
>>>> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies
>>>>
>>>> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,
>>>>
>>>> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA )
>>>>
>>>>
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>
> --
> Nagaraj Paturi
>
> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.
>
>
> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra
>
> BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala
>
> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies
>
> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,
>
> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA )
>
>
>
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