[INDOLOGY] Resumption of 'In an oil vat'.

Tieken, H.J.H. H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl
Mon Dec 17 13:51:47 UTC 2018


Dear Artur,
Tamil karumaṉ or karumakaṉ (-makaṉ is Skt putra) is attested only late, namely in Kampaṉ's Rāmāyanam and a traditional dictionary (Piṅkalam). The word may well be related to karu "black", as in karukku "to darken by heat" (see DED 1073). The other word for "BLACKsmith", common in (earlier) Caṅkam poems, is kollaṉ (see DED 1773), of which the stem kol(l)- is also found in kollai. The latter is a word for a clearing, a field cleared by burning, and therefore black. This blackness is an issue in some of the poems about the so-called kollai fields which I will deal with in an article (about something else) I happen to be writing at this moment. Note that Takanobu Takahashi in his article "Is clearing or plowing equal to killing? Tamil culture and the spread of Jainism in Tamilnadu" (in Bilingual Discourse and Cross-Cultural Fertilisation: Sanskrit and Tamil in Medieval India. Pondichéry 2013, pp.53-67) derives kollai, unnecessarily as I will try to show, from kol "to kill".
Herman

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Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] Resumption of 'In an oil vat'.

Dear List Members,

    The Buddha's last  sermon (of unknown content) took place in  Pāvā. Its recipient was the local blacksmith. His name, Cunda, does not sound Indo–Aryan. The text calls him kammāra-. Although generally related to the Skt. karmāra - 'blacksmith',  the etymology of this term is uncertain. In his A Comparative Dictionary of Indo–Aryan Languages  (2898) Turner allows for the possibility of it being a borrowing from the Dravidian (<<cf. Tam. karumā, 'smith, smelter', whence meaning 'smith' was transferred also to KARMAKĀRA->>).
     The Buddha and Cunda: a meeting, it seems, of the representatives of two differing traditions. Sūkaramaddava, the term describing the dish offered by Cunda to the Buddha, sounds Middle Indo-Aryan. Nevertheless, its meaning is not clear, it has acquired a number of unconvincing interpretations.
     If so - could this term have also  originally come from the local non-Indo-Aryan dialect? Was it, in its Pali form, an ad hoc created vocabulary item? Have there been attempts to find its equivalent in the local smiths’ professional terminology? In the local Dalits' kitchen vocabulary?
    I am not aware of any.

Regards,



śr., 12 gru 2018 o 22:00 Artur Karp <karp at uw.edu.pl<mailto:karp at uw.edu.pl>> napisał(a):
Dear List Members,

A short fragment of the MPSutta (84–85, 90), the one that describes the last meal of the Buddha and his fatal illness, mentions one person 23 times – by name and professional designation: cundo kammāraputto, Cunda, the blacksmith.
Is the number of these references not significant? Some translators, perhaps not wanting to strain the readers’ patience, tend to reduce the phrase to the personal name only, as if the fact that the Buddha’s host was a smith was an unimportant detail. Cunda the blacksmith becomes Cunda.

Oskar von Hinüber is more radical. In his widely read and already classical paper (Cremated like a King: The Funeral of the Buddha within the Ancient Indian Cultural Context, ICPBS 2009) he does not mention Cunda, not even once. He refers there to what he calls ‘a vessel made of iron and filled with sesame oil’; a type of vat which, according to tradition, was used for cremating the bodies of anointed kings – and, later on, of the Buddha himself. However, he does not link the material from which such vessels were made with the person of a smith, of an iron–maker appearing so conspicuously in the text. The majority of the specialists (among them John Strong) write rather about ‘an iron oil vessel/tub/vat’. But this is beyond the point. Von Hinüber’s attention is directed at oil, not at iron.

Apart from iron, the text does not mention any other economically important metal - neither copper nor bronze.

In this sense we may say that the MPSutta is dominated by iron – and steel.

Could it be that the narrative relating the marvelous transformation of the Buddha’s human body into the everlasting relics was based on the procedures of iron smelting and hardening, the latter giving it, finally, the potential to create everlasting forms? Could the fact that the burning out of the Buddha’s body is stopped by cold water be devoid of any meaning?

These are questions that – to my mind – demand answers. They may lead to an entirely new approach to research on the world of the MPSutta.


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