From shrinsaha at gmail.com Mon May 1 09:51:51 2017 From: shrinsaha at gmail.com (Niranjan Saha) Date: Mon, 01 May 17 15:21:51 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Request for Pdf (Hegel's Bhagavadgita) Message-ID: Dear List, If somebody could find me the following item, I'd be thankful so much. *G.W.F. Hegel's On The Episode of the Mahabharata Known by the Name Bhgavad-Gita by Wilhelm Von Humboldt* By* HERBERT HERRING* With regards, Sincerely, Niranjan Saha Virus-free. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mkapstei at uchicago.edu Mon May 1 10:01:49 2017 From: mkapstei at uchicago.edu (Matthew Kapstein) Date: Mon, 01 May 17 10:01:49 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Request for Pdf (Hegel's Bhagavadgita) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <82C3E42590D939418C74DD76B97DDED047C357EE@xm-mbx-06-prod> It is a 1995 publication and seems to be available cheaply (under US $10 in some cases) from any number of Indian distributors. Matthew Kapstein Directeur d'?tudes, Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, The University of Chicago ________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wujastyk at gmail.com Mon May 1 19:50:45 2017 From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Mon, 01 May 17 13:50:45 -0600 Subject: [INDOLOGY] T. N. Dharmadhikari's Taittiriya Samhita In-Reply-To: Message-ID: https://www.worldcat.org/search?q=t.+n.+dharmadhikari+taittiriya&qt=results_page ? -- Professor Dominik Wujastyk ?,? Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity ?,? Department of History and Classics ?,? University of Alberta, Canada ?.? South Asia at the U of A: ?sas.ualberta.ca? ?? On 27 April 2017 at 08:53, Harry Spier via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear list members, > > Can someone give me the bibliographic information for the volume of Dr. > T. N. Dharmadhikari's edition of the Taittiriya Samhita that contains book > 4. (especially the publisher and volume). > > Many thanks, > Harry Spier > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wujastyk at gmail.com Mon May 1 19:51:14 2017 From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Mon, 01 May 17 13:51:14 -0600 Subject: [INDOLOGY] New e-texts added to the Muktabodha Digital Library In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thank you so much! ? -- Professor Dominik Wujastyk ?,? Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity ?,? Department of History and Classics ?,? University of Alberta, Canada ?.? South Asia at the U of A: ?sas.ualberta.ca? ?? On 27 April 2017 at 19:58, Harry Spier via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear list members, > > The following e-texts have been added to the Muktabodha Digital Library: > > 1) k?myakarmakamal? a paddhati on the worship of the Goddess > tripurasundar?. It is by pr??ama?jar? and is one of the few sanskrit texts > written by a woman. From NGMCP manuscript 5-1922 . > > 2) haya?ir?a-pa?car?tra a Vai??ava pa?car?tra dealing exclusively with the > construction, reconstruction of temples, erection and consecration of > images. > > 3) k?lik? pur??a a pur??? dedicated to the worship of k?l?. > > 4) kulac???ma?i nigama a kaula tantra. > > 5) mah?guhyak?l?vidh?nam a paddhati on the worship of k?l? from NGMCP > manuscript 2048 . > > 6) mah?lak?m?d?pad?navidhi? a paddhati on the worship of mah?lak?m? from > NGMCP manuscript 1571. > > > Harry Spier > Manager, Muktabodha Digital Library > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gthomgt at gmail.com Mon May 1 21:12:46 2017 From: gthomgt at gmail.com (George Thompson) Date: Mon, 01 May 17 17:12:46 -0400 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Renou,_=C3=89coles?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear List, I am still getting requests for pdfs of Renou's book privately. Let me note that Arlo Griffiths has posted a free download of this book : I have now uploaded the pdf to archive.org: https://archive.org/details/Renou1947LesEcolesVediques Renou 1947 Les Ecoles Vediques : Louis Renou : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive archive.org Renou, Louis. 1947. Les ?coles v?diques et la formation du Veda. Cahiers de la Soci?t? asiatique 9. Paris: Imprimerie nationale. It should be available through that link soon. Best wishes, Arlo Griffiths It would be faster for you to download it from this site and less laborious for if you did so. Thanks to Arlo! George On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 2:49 AM, Arlo Griffiths wrote: > I have now uploaded the pdf to archive.org: > > > https://archive.org/details/Renou1947LesEcolesVediques > > Renou 1947 Les Ecoles Vediques : Louis Renou : Free Download & Streaming : > Internet Archive > archive.org > Renou, Louis. 1947. Les ?coles v?diques et la formation du Veda. Cahiers > de la Soci?t? asiatique 9. Paris: Imprimerie nationale. > > > It should be available through that link soon. > > > Best wishes, > > > Arlo Griffiths > > > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* INDOLOGY on behalf of > Lubom?r Ondra?ka via INDOLOGY > *Sent:* Saturday, April 29, 2017 11:24 PM > *To:* George Thompson > *Cc:* George Thompson via INDOLOGY > *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] Renou, ?coles > > Dear All, > > I am afraid that those still asking for Renou's book overlooked (or did > not receive) an e-mail sent by Jan Houben with a link to an excelent (and > OCR) scan of the book: > > http://list.indology.info/pipermail/indology_list. > indology.info/2017-April/045787.html > > Best, > Lubomir > > > On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 18:58:26 -0400 > George Thompson via INDOLOGY wrote: > > > Dear List, > > > > To all of you who have asked for the pdf of Renou's *Les ?coles > v?diques, *I > > promise to send it to you all on Monday. I am involved in family affairs > > this weekend. I have just become a grandfather! > > > > Best wishes, > > > > George > > > > On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 8:07 AM, Alfred Hiltebeitel via INDOLOGY < > > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > > > > Dear George, > > > I would like a copy too. > > > Alf > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 2:17 AM, Valerie Roebuck via INDOLOGY < > > > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > > > > >> Me, too, please! > > >> > > >> Valerie J Roebuck > > >> Manchester, UK > > >> > > >> On 29 Apr 2017, at 02:46, Robert Zydenbos via INDOLOGY < > > >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > >> > > >> Please add me to the list of interested persons as well. > > >> > > >> RZ > > >> > > >> Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY wrote: > > >> > > >> Hi George, if you do scan this work, do send it to me. > > >> > > >> Madhav > > >> > > >> > > >> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 3:30 PM Hock, Hans Henrich via INDOLOGY < > > >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Wonderful, George! > > >>> > > >>> All the best, > > >>> > > >>> Hans Henrich > > >>> > > >>> Sent from my iPhone > > >>> > > >>> On Apr 26, 2017, at 14:05, George Thompson > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Dear Arlo, Hans, and Asko, > > >>> > > >>> I don't have a pdf of this book, but I have photocopy of it [I > copied it > > >>> when I was a graduate student, long before the days of pdfs]. If a > pdf > > >>> does not emerge soon, I will get one of the local computer shops to > convert > > >>> it into a pdf. > > >>> > > >>> Best wishes, > > >>> > > >>> George > > >>> > > >>> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 1:30 PM, Asko Parpola via INDOLOGY < > > >>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> I would like to have a copy as well. With best regards, > > >>>> > > >>>> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 5:33 PM, Hock, Hans Henrich via INDOLOGY < > > >>>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> If this is available, I?d like a copy (or a link) too. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Best wishes, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Hans Henrich Hock > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On 26 Apr 2017, at 00:49, Arlo Griffiths via INDOLOGY < > > >>>>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Dear colleagues, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Does anyone happen to have a pdf of this classic work? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Renou, Louis. 1947. *Les ?coles v?diques et la formation du Veda*. > > >>>>> Cahiers de la Soci?t? asiatique 9. Paris: Imprimerie nationale. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Thank you. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Arlo Griffiths > > >>>>> > > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >> INDOLOGY mailing list > > >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > > >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > > >> committee) > > >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list > options or > INDOLOGY Info Page > listinfo.indology.info > INDOLOGY is an internet discussion group whose primary purpose is to > provide a forum for discussion among professional scholars of classical > Indian (South Asian ... > > > >> unsubscribe) > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> INDOLOGY mailing list > > >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > > >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > > >> committee) > > >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list > options or > INDOLOGY Info Page > listinfo.indology.info > INDOLOGY is an internet discussion group whose primary purpose is to > provide a forum for discussion among professional scholars of classical > Indian (South Asian ... > > > >> unsubscribe) > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Alf Hiltebeitel > > > Professor of Religion, History and Human Sciences > > > Department of Religion > > > George Washington University > > > 2106 G Street, NW > > > Washington DC, 20052 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > INDOLOGY mailing list > > > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > > > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > > > committee) > > > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options > or > INDOLOGY Info Page > listinfo.indology.info > INDOLOGY is an internet discussion group whose primary purpose is to > provide a forum for discussion among professional scholars of classical > Indian (South Asian ... > > > > unsubscribe) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > INDOLOGY Info Page > listinfo.indology.info > INDOLOGY is an internet discussion group whose primary purpose is to > provide a forum for discussion among professional scholars of classical > Indian (South Asian ... > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From ondracka at ff.cuni.cz Tue May 2 08:20:20 2017 From: ondracka at ff.cuni.cz (=?utf-8?Q?Lubom=C3=ADr_Ondra=C4=8Dka?=) Date: Tue, 02 May 17 10:20:20 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Natyasastra In-Reply-To: <363679393C2EB44480CDA76B2F23C9F760A4CD25@P2KITMBX06WC03.unicph.domain> Message-ID: <20170502102020.ebb0c577546fde9828b24ffa@ff.cuni.cz> Dear Ken, all the volumes are in DLI, but they are not so easy to identify: vol. 1 (GOS 36) http://www.new.dli.ernet.in/handle/2015/553623 vol. 2 (GOS 68) http://www.new.dli.ernet.in/handle/2015/210713 vol. 3 (GOS 124) http://www.new.dli.ernet.in/handle/2015/326319 vol. 4 (GOS 145) http://www.new.dli.ernet.in/handle/2015/408430 Best, Lubomir On Tue, 2 May 2017 07:43:34 +0000 Kenneth Gregory Zysk via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear List, > I should appreciate it if someone could tell me where I can obtain a scanned copy of the Baroda edition of Bharata's Natyasastra with Abhinavabharati. > Many thanks, > Ken > > Kenneth Zysk, PhD, DPhil > Head of Indology > Department of Cross-Cultural and Regional Studies > University of Copenhagen > 1 Karen Blixens Vej, Bygn. 10, > DK-2300 Copenhagen S Denmark > Ph: +45 3532 8951 Email: zysk at hum.ku.dk > From zysk at hum.ku.dk Tue May 2 09:01:01 2017 From: zysk at hum.ku.dk (Kenneth Gregory Zysk) Date: Tue, 02 May 17 09:01:01 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Natyasastra In-Reply-To: <20170502102020.ebb0c577546fde9828b24ffa@ff.cuni.cz> Message-ID: <363679393C2EB44480CDA76B2F23C9F760A4CD91@P2KITMBX06WC03.unicph.domain> Dear Lubomir, Many thanks for the links. Best, Ken Kenneth Zysk, PhD, DPhil Head of Indology Department of Cross-Cultural and Regional Studies University of Copenhagen Karen Blixens Plads 8, Bygn. 10, DK-2300 Copenhagen S??? Denmark Ph:? +45 3532 8951????????????????????????? Email: zysk at hum.ku.dk -----Original Message----- From: Lubom?r Ondra?ka [mailto:ondracka at ff.cuni.cz] Sent: 02 May 2017 10:20 To: Kenneth Gregory Zysk Cc: Kenneth Gregory Zysk via INDOLOGY Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Natyasastra Dear Ken, all the volumes are in DLI, but they are not so easy to identify: vol. 1 (GOS 36) http://www.new.dli.ernet.in/handle/2015/553623 vol. 2 (GOS 68) http://www.new.dli.ernet.in/handle/2015/210713 vol. 3 (GOS 124) http://www.new.dli.ernet.in/handle/2015/326319 vol. 4 (GOS 145) http://www.new.dli.ernet.in/handle/2015/408430 Best, Lubomir On Tue, 2 May 2017 07:43:34 +0000 Kenneth Gregory Zysk via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear List, > I should appreciate it if someone could tell me where I can obtain a scanned copy of the Baroda edition of Bharata's Natyasastra with Abhinavabharati. > Many thanks, > Ken > > Kenneth Zysk, PhD, DPhil > Head of Indology > Department of Cross-Cultural and Regional Studies > University of Copenhagen > 1 Karen Blixens Vej, Bygn. 10, > DK-2300 Copenhagen S Denmark > Ph: +45 3532 8951 Email: zysk at hum.ku.dk > From hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com Tue May 2 13:30:43 2017 From: hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com (Harry Spier) Date: Tue, 02 May 17 09:30:43 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Natyasastra In-Reply-To: <363679393C2EB44480CDA76B2F23C9F760A4CD25@P2KITMBX06WC03.unicph.domain> Message-ID: Dear Kenneth, We don't have the Baroda edition but in the Muktabodha Digital Library ( www.muktabodha.org ) we have a searchable copy of the Gaekwad Oriental Series edition edited by M.Ramakrishna Kavi and K. S. Ramaswami Shastri. Harry Spier Manager, Muktabodha Digital Library On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 3:43 AM, Kenneth Gregory Zysk via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear List, > > I should appreciate it if someone could tell me where I can obtain a > scanned copy of the Baroda edition of Bharata?s Natyasastra with > Abhinavabharati. > > Many thanks, > > Ken > > > > Kenneth Zysk, PhD, DPhil > > Head of Indology > > Department of Cross-Cultural and Regional Studies > > University of Copenhagen > > 1 Karen Blixens Vej, Bygn. 10, > > DK-2300 Copenhagen S Denmark > > Ph: +45 3532 8951 <+45%2035%2032%2089%2051> > Email: zysk at hum.ku.dk > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The searchable text we have in the Muktabodha digital library (Gaekwad Oriental Series edition) is the Baroda edition. www.muktabodha.org Thanks, Harry Spier On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 5:01 AM, Kenneth Gregory Zysk via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear Lubomir, > Many thanks for the links. > Best, > Ken > > Kenneth Zysk, PhD, DPhil > Head of Indology > Department of Cross-Cultural and Regional Studies > University of Copenhagen > Karen Blixens Plads 8, Bygn. 10, > DK-2300 Copenhagen S Denmark > Ph: +45 3532 8951 Email: zysk at hum.ku.dk > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lubom?r Ondra?ka [mailto:ondracka at ff.cuni.cz] > Sent: 02 May 2017 10:20 > To: Kenneth Gregory Zysk > Cc: Kenneth Gregory Zysk via INDOLOGY > Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Natyasastra > > Dear Ken, > > all the volumes are in DLI, but they are not so easy to identify: > > vol. 1 (GOS 36) http://www.new.dli.ernet.in/handle/2015/553623 > vol. 2 (GOS 68) http://www.new.dli.ernet.in/handle/2015/210713 > vol. 3 (GOS 124) http://www.new.dli.ernet.in/handle/2015/326319 > vol. 4 (GOS 145) http://www.new.dli.ernet.in/handle/2015/408430 > > Best, > Lubomir > > On Tue, 2 May 2017 07:43:34 +0000 > Kenneth Gregory Zysk via INDOLOGY wrote: > > > Dear List, > > I should appreciate it if someone could tell me where I can obtain a > scanned copy of the Baroda edition of Bharata's Natyasastra with > Abhinavabharati. > > Many thanks, > > Ken > > > > Kenneth Zysk, PhD, DPhil > > Head of Indology > > Department of Cross-Cultural and Regional Studies > > University of Copenhagen > > 1 Karen Blixens Vej, Bygn. 10, > > DK-2300 Copenhagen S Denmark > > Ph: +45 3532 8951 Email: zysk at hum.ku.dk > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.gluckman at anu.edu.au Tue May 2 14:23:43 2017 From: m.gluckman at anu.edu.au (Martin Gluckman) Date: Tue, 02 May 17 16:23:43 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] A novel Sanskrit input tool for Mac Message-ID: Dear Friends, I wished to share a tool we've made to input Sanskrit on a Mac. Various scripts as well as basic accents are supported along with an input method I personally found to be very easy to learn. https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sanskrit-writer-lite/id1171037573?mt=12 Due to restrictions of the Mac App store the full version (which allows the typing of Sanskrit anywhere) is forced to use an editor so you have to copy/paste but even so it should be useful to many of you (who use Mac). In the near future the full version will be available for download (not from the app store but from a separate site). I hope this tool is as useful to students and scholars out there as we have found in our work. 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With sincere regards, N.Saha On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 3:31 PM, Matthew Kapstein wrote: > It is a 1995 publication and seems to be available cheaply (under US $10 > in some cases) from > any number of Indian distributors. > > Matthew Kapstein > Directeur d'?tudes, > Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes > > Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, > The University of Chicago > ------------------------------ > > > > > <#m_7846239074595254070_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dhammadinnaa at gmail.com Thu May 4 12:57:49 2017 From: dhammadinnaa at gmail.com (=?utf-8?Q?bhikkhun=C4=AB_Dhammadinn=C4=81?=) Date: Thu, 04 May 17 14:57:49 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] PDF request: Spolia Zeylanica 36.1 (1981) Message-ID: Dear Colleagues, warm greetings. Does anyone have a scan of the following issue of Spolia Zeylanica? de Silva, Lily 1981: "Paritta, A Historical and Religious Study of the Buddhist Ceremony for Peace and Prosperity in Sri Lanka", Spolia Zeylanica, vol. 36 part 1, Colombo. With many thanks and all best wishes, Dhammadinn? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From DCL96 at rci.rutgers.edu Thu May 4 14:09:09 2017 From: DCL96 at rci.rutgers.edu (DC Lammerts) Date: Thu, 04 May 17 10:09:09 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Position: Buddhist Studies Research Scholar at BDRC Message-ID: <33F90986-E150-4093-92DD-25134DC7D954@rci.rutgers.edu> Job Opportunity Announcement: Buddhist Studies Research Scholar at BDRC https://www.tbrc.org/?locale=en#!footer/news/20170502 May 02, 2017 The Buddhist Digital Resource Center, Inc. seeks a Buddhist Studies Research Scholar to lead the development of an online repository of Buddhist texts and cultural heritage information. Title: Buddhist Studies Post-Doctoral Research Scholar Organization: Buddhist Digital Resource Center, Inc. Location: Cambridge, MA About BDRC The Buddhist Digital Resource Center, Inc. (BDRC) applies the transformative power of technology to the digital preservation of Buddhist texts from around world. The organization has created a dynamic forward-thinking cutting edge digital library through an engaged program of digital preservation and online accessibility. Used on a daily basis by thousands of users around the world, this resource has transformed inquiry into the Buddhist textual heritage, while providing measurable, pragmatic results. Founded as Tibetan Buddhist Resource Center (TBRC) in 1999 by the legendary scholar E. Gene Smith (1936-2010), the organization?s impact was documented in a feature length documentary. In 2016, TBRC expanded its mission and changed its name to Buddhist Digital Resource Center. The new name represents the organization?s expanded mission to preserve and make accessible Buddhist texts, not only in Tibetan language, but also in the many languages in which Buddhism has been expressed, including Sanskrit, Pali, Chinese, and others. By adding ?digital?, the name also more explicitly connects to the mission of the organization, which is to preserve and share Buddhist texts digitally through the union of technology and scholarship. BDRC is poised to expand its organizational expertise and capacity to a truly global audience. BDRC has a team of 10 permanent staff in Cambridge with an annual operating budget of approximately $1.5 million, and offices in New Delhi, Bangkok, now in Hangzhou. BDRC?s head office is located in Harvard Square, Cambridge, MA. About our partner organization BRRC The Buddhist Resource and Research Center (BRRC) of Zhejiang University was established in March 2016, and is wholly funded by Zhejiang University. The members of its academic committee are internationally recognized scholars of Buddhist studies from various top universities all over the world. A diversified research institution and an open platform for international cooperation of Buddhist studies, BRRC is integrated in Zhejiang University?s scholarly community, excellent collections of Buddhist literature and advanced technology of digitization etc. The main research areas include: multilingual Buddhist textual traditions based on sources in Sanskrit, Pali, Chinese, Tibetan and Japanese, the development of Buddhist digital resources, the promotion of Buddhist thought and culture and its relationship with contemporary society. The goal of BRRC is: ?preserving and sharing Buddhist Texts through the Union of Technology and Scholarship, and developing and deepening Buddhist Studies by the collaboration of tradition and innovation.? BRRC is located on the Zijingang campus of Zhejiang University. Opportunity The Buddhist Studies Post-Doctoral Research Scholar will provide scholarly expertise in Buddhist Studies to advance the creation of the Buddhist Universal Digital Archive (BUDA), a multi-language digital repository of Buddhist texts in Sanskrit, Pali, Chinese and Tibetan. The research scholar will work closely with our board of advisors, our board of directors, and senior librarians in our home office in Cambridge, MA. Report to the Executive Director of BDRC in Cambridge, MA, the Buddhist Studies Postdoctoral Research Scholar will identify important collections of Buddhist materials scattered in the world?s great libraries, and document these materials using BDRC?s linked open data framework. This is a great opportunity for a Buddhist Studies expert with a keen interest in textual studies to lead the development of a massive online repository of Buddhist texts and Buddhist cultural heritage information. Responsibilities ? Coordinate work of two Buddhist Studies Research Scholars at ZJU and senior librarians in Cambridge office. ? Work with board of advisors to identify important collections of Buddhist texts and document these collections in a preservation database ? Work closely with technical team on creating, managing, improving and expanding a cultural heritage ontology that defines key aspects of literary culture including works, persons, places and topics. ? Classify texts and create cultural heritage information in the Buddhist Universal Digital Archive (BUDA) ? Advise technical team on the development of research tools for Buddhist Studies Requirements ? PhD required ? Knowledge of Chinese or Sanskrit required; knowledge of Pali is highly desirable; working knowledge of Tibetan desirable but not required. ? Experience with multi-year data driven projects, digital humanities, or possess an equivalent technology background How to Apply Please send a cover letter and C.V. to emma at tbrc.org. This is a full-time salaried position based in our Cambridge location. From Bradley.Clough at mso.umt.edu Thu May 4 23:46:31 2017 From: Bradley.Clough at mso.umt.edu (Clough, Bradley) Date: Thu, 04 May 17 23:46:31 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] PDF request: Spolia Zeylanica 36.1 (1981) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3D0A3B3C-E290-4A75-97D0-3FF3A59CF8A5@mso.umt.edu> I too would be interested in receiving this if anyone has it. Thanks! Brad bradley.clough at mso.umt.edu On May 4, 2017, at 6:57 AM, bhikkhun? Dhammadinn? via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > warm greetings. > Does anyone have a scan of the following issue of Spolia Zeylanica? > de Silva, Lily 1981: "Paritta, A Historical and Religious Study of the Buddhist Ceremony for Peace and Prosperity in Sri Lanka", Spolia Zeylanica, vol. 36 part 1, Colombo. > With many thanks and all best wishes, > Dhammadinn? > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From manufrancis at gmail.com Fri May 5 15:01:10 2017 From: manufrancis at gmail.com (Manu Francis) Date: Fri, 05 May 17 17:01:10 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Pandit R. Varada Desikan Message-ID: Dear Colleagues, Sad news have just arrived from the EFEO centre at Pondicherry: the pandit R. Varada Desikan passed away on May 2 at the age of 94. http://www.efeo.fr/agenda/agenda.php?nid=316 He was indeed a very knowledgeable scholar and a very kind person. -- Emmanuel Francis Charg? de recherche CNRS, Centre d'?tude de l'Inde et de l'Asie du Sud (UMR 8564, EHESS-CNRS, Paris) http://ceias.ehess.fr/ http://ceias.ehess.fr/index.php?1725 http://rcsi.hypotheses.org/ Associate member, Centre for the Study of Manuscript Culture (SFB 950, Universit?t Hamburg) http://www.manuscript-cultures.uni-hamburg.de/index_e.html https://cnrs.academia.edu/emmanuelfrancis -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From peter.daniel.szanto at gmail.com Fri May 5 15:11:37 2017 From: peter.daniel.szanto at gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?UMOpdGVyLUTDoW5pZWwgU3rDoW50w7M=?=) Date: Fri, 05 May 17 16:11:37 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Article request Message-ID: Dear colleagues, Would anyone happen to have a pdf of P. C. 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URL: From ashok.aklujkar at gmail.com Fri May 5 16:44:51 2017 From: ashok.aklujkar at gmail.com (Ashok Aklujkar) Date: Fri, 05 May 17 09:44:51 -0700 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Buddhasrijnana's Abhisamaya commentary In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <63F3BCA1-1F41-4C04-9269-888D193A7F83@gmail.com> Perhaps the following book(?) by Michael Much will help you: Visit to Ra?hula Sa?n?kr?tya?yana?s collection of negatives at the Bihar Research Society : texts from the Buddhist epistemological school / Bihar Research Society. Wien : Arbeitskreis fu?r Tibetische und Buddhistische Studien, Universita?t Wien, 1988. a.a. > On May 5, 2017, at 8:39 AM, P?ter-D?niel Sz?nt? via INDOLOGY > wrote: > > Rahul Sankrtyayan in his 1935 report wrote that he had seen and photographed a 27-folio ms. of Buddha?r?j??na's Abhisamay?la?k?ra commentary in Lhasa. > > Does anyone know what became of these photos? 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Wien : Arbeitskreis fu?r Tibetische und > Buddhistische Studien, Universita?t Wien, 1988. > > a.a. > > > On May 5, 2017, at 8:39 AM, P?ter-D?niel Sz?nt? via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > Rahul Sankrtyayan in his 1935 report wrote that he had seen and > photographed a 27-folio ms. of Buddha?r?j??na's Abhisamay?la?k?ra > commentary in Lhasa. > > Does anyone know what became of these photos? They do not seem to be kept > in the G?ttingen collection (I checked Bandurski's catalogue relatively > thoroughly). > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From peter.daniel.szanto at gmail.com Fri May 5 17:44:39 2017 From: peter.daniel.szanto at gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?UMOpdGVyLUTDoW5pZWwgU3rDoW50w7M=?=) Date: Fri, 05 May 17 18:44:39 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Buddhasrijnana's Abhisamaya commentary In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thank you for your kind advice, but unfortunately this work lists only pram??a-related manuscripts. On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 6:12 PM, Madhav Deshpande wrote: > The publication referred to by Ashok Aklujkar can be freely downloaded > from this website: > > https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/uploads/wstb/WSTB_18.pdf > > Madhav Deshpande > > On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 12:44 PM, Ashok Aklujkar via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Perhaps the following book(?) by Michael Much will help you: >> Visit to Ra?hula Sa?n?kr?tya?yana?s collection of negatives at the Bihar >> Research Society : texts from the Buddhist epistemological school / >> >> Bihar Research Society. Wien : Arbeitskreis fu?r Tibetische und >> Buddhistische Studien, Universita?t Wien, 1988. >> >> a.a. >> >> >> On May 5, 2017, at 8:39 AM, P?ter-D?niel Sz?nt? via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >> Rahul Sankrtyayan in his 1935 report wrote that he had seen and >> photographed a 27-folio ms. of Buddha?r?j??na's Abhisamay?la?k?ra >> commentary in Lhasa. >> >> Does anyone know what became of these photos? They do not seem to be kept >> in the G?ttingen collection (I checked Bandurski's catalogue relatively >> thoroughly). >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hegartyjm at googlemail.com Fri May 5 18:02:09 2017 From: hegartyjm at googlemail.com (James Hegarty) Date: Fri, 05 May 17 19:02:09 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Relaunch of e-journal - Asian Literature and Translation In-Reply-To: <181B8E53-24B5-49EA-A29F-CD61954877C7@cardiff.ac.uk> Message-ID: > Begin forwarded message: > > From: James Marcel Hegarty > Subject: Relaunch of e-journal - Asian Literature and Translation > Date: 5 May 2017 at 14:21:19 BST > To: indology > Cc: Simon Brodbeck > > Dear Colleagues, > > I thought I would share the URL for the newest issue of Asian Literature and Translation: > > https://publications.cardiffuniversitypress.org/index.php/ALT/index > > This journal, which is the product of the Centre for the History of Religion in Asia at Cardiff University, had a rest period after the retirement of its editor, William Johnson. > > I have since taken over the editorship. We have moved the journal to Cardiff University Press (all back issues are digitally available at http://cardiffuniversitypress.org/titles/journals/ ) and hope to continue the wonderful work done by Will in offering an outlet for shorter and longer translations of Asian literature, as well as articles and anything else innovative, brilliant or both that comes out way. > > The first paper is a tribute to my marvellous colleague Will, which was co-authored with another of my marvellous colleagues, Simon Brodbeck. > > The contents page is given below. > > Enjoy! > > Submissions should be sent to my university email address (hegartyj at cardiff.ac.uk ). The journal is double blind peer reviewed. > > Best Wishes, > > James Hegarty > Cardiff University > > Vol 4, No 1 (2017): Asian Literature and Translation > Table of Contents > ARTICLES > An Appreciation of, and Tribute to, Will Johnson on the Occasion of his Retirement > James Hegarty, Simon Brodbeck > PDF > 1-32 > Calendars, Rituals, and Astral Science in India: A Case Study > Alessandra Petrocchi > PDF > 33-72 > How a Medieval Monk-Poet (Saigy?) and Japan Became Identified with ?Nature? > Mike Sugimoto > PDF > 73-95 > Two Pashto Short Stories by Abdul Wakil Sulamal Shinwari Translated by Noorullah Atal > Noorullah Atal > PDF > 96-104 > Dharmadinn? Becomes a Nun: A Story of Ordination by Messenger from the M?lasarv?stiv?da Vinaya Translated from the Tibetan Version by Fumi Yao > Fumi Yao > PDF > 105-148 > ?An Early Morning? and ?Moonlit Night? by Thach Lam Translated from the Vietnamese by Quan Manh Ha > Quan Manh Ha > PDF > 149-158 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brendan.gillon at mcgill.ca Fri May 5 18:10:23 2017 From: brendan.gillon at mcgill.ca (BG) Date: Fri, 05 May 17 14:10:23 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] devanagari in latex using an emacs editor Message-ID: Dear colleagues, Might someone on the list point me to where I can find out how to put, at a minimum, Devanagari numerals into a Latex document using an emacs editor? The more elementary the exposition the better. Cordially yours, Brendan Gillon -- Brendan S. Gillon email: brendan.gillon at mcgill.ca Department of Linguistics McGill University tel.: 001 514 398 4868 1085, Avenue Docteur-Penfield Montreal, Quebec fax.: 001 514 398 7088 H3A 1A7 CANADA webpage: http://webpages.mcgill.ca/staff/group3/bgillo/web/ From tylerwwilliams at gmail.com Fri May 5 22:15:03 2017 From: tylerwwilliams at gmail.com (Tyler Williams) Date: Fri, 05 May 17 17:15:03 -0500 Subject: [INDOLOGY] "Puspika" Message-ID: Dear colleagues, Is anyone aware of a publication that addresses the etymology or use of the term pu?pik?/pu?pak? as a closing formula of a text or manuscript? This meaning is not attested in pre-modern North Indian vernaculars, and appears to enter Hindi in the twentieth century via Sanskrit lexicography (i.e. Syamsundardas, author of the *Hind? ?abda S?gara, *appears to have copied his entry for puspik? from Monier-Williams's dictionary). I've checked a few sources on codicology that use the term, but they give no information on the term itself. 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At http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/patna/Bihar-Research-Society-will-go-online-in-a-mth/articleshow/52542508.cms , the Times of India [Patna edition?] of June 1, 2016, informs: Patna: Bihar Research Society (BRS), the research and publication wing of Patna Museum, is set to go online within a month. Sources said the digitization work of 10,000 rare Buddhist manuscripts, written in Tibetan, is complete. The task was assigned to Delhi-based document management systems firm, CBSL. Now, the soft copy of these rare manuscripts is available in a hard disc. The disc is available for scholarly purposes with permission from the director. Keeping in mind that a large number of people would like to know about the history and tradition recorded in the Buddhist manuscripts, it has been decided that all the records would be put online. "Anyone who wants to know the history can visit the site, the address of which will be announced shortly," said a source in the museum. These manuscripts, between 400 and 700 years old, had earlier been in news for the rare inscription in gold and silver ink on their cover pages. These Buddhist documents are the translated versions of original Sanskrit versions, which were destroyed over time. A museum official said they had also plans to translate the manuscripts in Hindi. "The museum had inked an MoU with Central University of Tibetan Studies, Sarnath, for translation and publication of these texts in Hindi, on March 4, 2015, but since the progress was not very satisfactory, it has been decided that anyone with requisite knowledge can do it. The person translating the manuscripts available online will be paid by the museum," he said. Director, Dr J P N Singh confirmed the development. "It has been decided to put the manuscripts online and award the translation task cutting the geographical limitations. We have also decided to pay remuneration for the task. We have almost completed the process. It will begin in a month.? a.a. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com Sat May 6 01:08:03 2017 From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi) Date: Sat, 06 May 17 06:38:03 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] "Puspika" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It can possibly refer to the design /art work used in the manuscripts as a colophon. On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 3:45 AM, Tyler Williams via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > Is anyone aware of a publication that addresses the etymology or use of > the term pu?pik?/pu?pak? as a closing formula of a text or manuscript? This > meaning is not attested in pre-modern North Indian vernaculars, and appears > to enter Hindi in the twentieth century via Sanskrit lexicography (i.e. > Syamsundardas, author of the *Hind? ?abda S?gara, *appears to have copied > his entry for puspik? from Monier-Williams's dictionary). I've checked a > few sources on codicology that use the term, but they give no information > on the term itself. > > With thanks, > > Tyler Williams > University of Chicago > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com Sat May 6 01:18:12 2017 From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi) Date: Sat, 06 May 17 06:48:12 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] "Puspika" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: To use such an emblem seems to be an influence of western manuscripts. On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 6:38 AM, Nagaraj Paturi wrote: > It can possibly refer to the design /art work used in the manuscripts as a > colophon. > > On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 3:45 AM, Tyler Williams via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Dear colleagues, >> >> Is anyone aware of a publication that addresses the etymology or use of >> the term pu?pik?/pu?pak? as a closing formula of a text or manuscript? This >> meaning is not attested in pre-modern North Indian vernaculars, and appears >> to enter Hindi in the twentieth century via Sanskrit lexicography (i.e. >> Syamsundardas, author of the *Hind? ?abda S?gara, *appears to have >> copied his entry for puspik? from Monier-Williams's dictionary). I've >> checked a few sources on codicology that use the term, but they give no >> information on the term itself. >> >> With thanks, >> >> Tyler Williams >> University of Chicago >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies > > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, > > (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) > > > > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From mkapstei at uchicago.edu Sat May 6 09:14:59 2017 From: mkapstei at uchicago.edu (Matthew Kapstein) Date: Sat, 06 May 17 09:14:59 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Buddhasrijnana's Abhisamaya commentary In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <82C3E42590D939418C74DD76B97DDED047C37653@xm-mbx-06-prod> Dear Ashok et al., This seems to be referring primarily to Tibetan manuscript holdings; it is not at all clear the Rahula's photographs of Skt. mss. are involved. And the idea of translating a whole collection of Tibetan mss. into Hindi, without assessing the collection in relation to on-going Tibetological work, merely reflects the regrettable ignorance on the part of the concerned administration regarding what it is that they actually hold. The Tibetan collection has been surveyed here: David P. Jackson: The ?Miscellaneous series ? of Tibetan texts in the Bihar Research Society, Patna: A handlist. (Tibetan and Indo Tibetan Studies, 2.) [xiv], 271 pp. Stuttgart: Franz Steiner Verlag, 1989. DM48 best, Matthew Matthew Kapstein Directeur d'?tudes, Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, The University of Chicago ________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com Sat May 6 13:35:40 2017 From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi) Date: Sat, 06 May 17 19:05:40 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] "Puspika" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Now when I see that word origin for colophon has got to do with the peak of a hill, I began to think that those who coined pushpikaa had a bud, the tip of a stem in mind and probably they thought that this, a bud, the tip of a stem indicates, like peak of a hill, the end /conclusion. On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 6:48 AM, Nagaraj Paturi wrote: > To use such an emblem seems to be an influence of western manuscripts. > > On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 6:38 AM, Nagaraj Paturi > wrote: > >> It can possibly refer to the design /art work used in the manuscripts as >> a colophon. >> >> On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 3:45 AM, Tyler Williams via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >>> Dear colleagues, >>> >>> Is anyone aware of a publication that addresses the etymology or use of >>> the term pu?pik?/pu?pak? as a closing formula of a text or manuscript? This >>> meaning is not attested in pre-modern North Indian vernaculars, and appears >>> to enter Hindi in the twentieth century via Sanskrit lexicography (i.e. >>> Syamsundardas, author of the *Hind? ?abda S?gara, *appears to have >>> copied his entry for puspik? from Monier-Williams's dictionary). I've >>> checked a few sources on codicology that use the term, but they give no >>> information on the term itself. >>> >>> With thanks, >>> >>> Tyler Williams >>> University of Chicago >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>> committee) >>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >>> or unsubscribe) >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Nagaraj Paturi >> >> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >> >> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies >> >> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >> >> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies > > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, > > (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) > > > > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From peter.daniel.szanto at gmail.com Sat May 6 13:54:19 2017 From: peter.daniel.szanto at gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?UMOpdGVyLUTDoW5pZWwgU3rDoW50w7M=?=) Date: Sat, 06 May 17 14:54:19 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] "Puspika" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Fleuron, surely? On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Nagaraj Paturi via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Now when I see that word origin for colophon has got to do with the peak > of a hill, I began to think that those who coined pushpikaa had a bud, > the tip of a stem in mind and probably they thought that this, a bud, > the tip of a stem indicates, like peak of a hill, the end /conclusion. > > > > On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 6:48 AM, Nagaraj Paturi > wrote: > >> To use such an emblem seems to be an influence of western manuscripts. >> >> On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 6:38 AM, Nagaraj Paturi >> wrote: >> >>> It can possibly refer to the design /art work used in the manuscripts as >>> a colophon. >>> >>> On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 3:45 AM, Tyler Williams via INDOLOGY < >>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear colleagues, >>>> >>>> Is anyone aware of a publication that addresses the etymology or use of >>>> the term pu?pik?/pu?pak? as a closing formula of a text or manuscript? This >>>> meaning is not attested in pre-modern North Indian vernaculars, and appears >>>> to enter Hindi in the twentieth century via Sanskrit lexicography (i.e. >>>> Syamsundardas, author of the *Hind? ?abda S?gara, *appears to have >>>> copied his entry for puspik? from Monier-Williams's dictionary). I've >>>> checked a few sources on codicology that use the term, but they give no >>>> information on the term itself. >>>> >>>> With thanks, >>>> >>>> Tyler Williams >>>> University of Chicago >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>>> committee) >>>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >>>> or unsubscribe) >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Nagaraj Paturi >>> >>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >>> >>> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies >>> >>> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >>> >>> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Nagaraj Paturi >> >> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >> >> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies >> >> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >> >> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies > > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, > > (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In any case, it would be safer to check if a Tibetan-looking manuscript, photograph or slide actually contains a Sanskrit work photographed by Rahul Sankrityayan. Thanks for the reference to Jackson?s survey. I did not know it existed. Best wishes. ashok > On May 6, 2017, at 2:14 AM, Matthew Kapstein wrote: > > Dear Ashok et al., > > This seems to be referring primarily to Tibetan manuscript holdings; it is not at all > clear the Rahula's photographs of Skt. mss. are involved. And the idea of translating > a whole collection of Tibetan mss. into Hindi, without assessing the collection > in relation to on-going Tibetological work, merely reflects the regrettable ignorance on > the part of the concerned administration regarding what it is that they actually hold. > > The Tibetan collection has been surveyed here: > David P. Jackson: The ?Miscellaneous series ? of Tibetan texts in the Bihar Research Society, Patna: A handlist. (Tibetan and Indo Tibetan Studies, 2.) [xiv], 271 pp. Stuttgart: Franz Steiner Verlag, 1989. DM48 > > best, > Matthew > > Matthew Kapstein > Directeur d'?tudes, > Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes > > Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, > The University of Chicago > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Sat May 6 19:40:40 2017 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Sat, 06 May 17 15:40:40 -0400 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_Tracing_a_verse_in_the_Pur=C4=81=E1=B9=87as?= Message-ID: I am trying to trace the following verse that is said to occur in the Padmapur??a. I don't have an edition of the Padmapur??a with a verse index. Is there a cumulative verse index to Pur??as? Any help is appreciated. b?hum?lakucadvandvayonispar?anadar?an?t kasya na skhalati citta? reta? skanna? ca no bhavet Madhav Deshpande Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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May Babloo become the great cloud cat that Yoge?vara tells us about, and enjoy all the creamy light the moon has to offer. ????? ????????? ?????????????????????? ? ?????????????? ??????? ???????????????? ? --Antonia 2017-05-06 23:34 GMT+01:00 Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info>: > Our Sanskrit speaking cat, Babloo, passed away this morning at the age of > 20. He used to respond to me calling him with ?????. He was a very loving > cat, and we will miss him very much. Here is my Sanskrit verse for Babloo: > > ??????????????????? ??????????????????: ? > ?????? ???? ??????? ?????? ? ?????? ?: ?? > > Madhav Deshpande > Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -- ANTONIA RUPPEL s a p e r e a u d e -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Sun May 7 00:10:11 2017 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Sat, 06 May 17 20:10:11 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Babloo, the Cat In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Antonia, Thanks. This is a very beautiful poem of Yoge?vara. Another poetic idea about a cat is found in the first line of the following verse: ????? ???????: ?? ??? ????? ???? ????: ?????????????????? ??????? ??? ???????? ? ??????? ?????????? ???? ????????????????? ?????????????????? ???????? ????????? ?? Madhav On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 6:50 PM, Antonia Ruppel wrote: > Dear Madhav, > > I am sorry to hear about your loss. May Babloo become the great cloud cat > that Yoge?vara tells us about, and enjoy all the creamy light the moon has > to offer. > > ????? ????????? ?????????????????????? ? > ?????????????? ??????? ???????????????? ? > > --Antonia > > > > 2017-05-06 23:34 GMT+01:00 Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info>: > >> Our Sanskrit speaking cat, Babloo, passed away this morning at the age of >> 20. He used to respond to me calling him with ?????. He was a very loving >> cat, and we will miss him very much. Here is my Sanskrit verse for Babloo: >> >> ??????????????????? ??????????????????: ? >> ?????? ???? ??????? ?????? ? ?????? ?: ?? >> >> Madhav Deshpande >> Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > > > -- > ANTONIA RUPPEL > s a p e r e a u d e > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Additionally, the GCSAR together with the Department of History will host a roundtable discussion with Dr. Shahid Amin, Dr. Rosalind O?Hanlon, and Dr. Natalie Zemon Davis on questions of historical memory. Graduate students engaged in original research from disciplines including, but not limited to, religious studies, women?s and gender studies, philosophy, anthropology, history, linguistics, sociology, area or diasporic studies, political science, and geography are encouraged to apply. As an inherently interdisciplinary conference, we endeavour to stimulate critical and scholastically rigorous conversations across historical periods, methodologies, and subject matter. As such, we encourage submissions from graduate students working on Islam, Sikhism, Jainism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, Christianity, and Zoroastrianism. Participants will deliver a 20 minute paper before an audience of students and faculty from the University of Toronto. Individual papers as well as full panel proposals will be accepted. Please send the following material to southasianreligionsatutoronto at gmail.com by June 1, 2017: Individual Papers?350-word paper abstract; 5 keywords describing the paper; CV Panels?250-word panel abstract; 5 keywords describing each paper; 350-word paper abstracts; Member CVs. Decisions will be communicated by July 1, 2017. Although limited funding is available for students to defray travel costs and lodging, all presenters are encouraged to seek funding from their home institutions. Please see the attached .pdf for more information. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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There are three editons: https://www.worldcat.org/search?qt=worldcat_org_all&q=vimanarcanakalpa The ones from 1926/1927 would be out of copyright. Many thanks, Dominik ? -- Professor Dominik Wujastyk ?,? Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity ?,? Department of History and Classics ?,? University of Alberta, Canada ?.? South Asia at the U of A: ?sas.ualberta.ca? ?? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dnreigle at gmail.com Tue May 9 01:03:51 2017 From: dnreigle at gmail.com (David and Nancy Reigle) Date: Mon, 08 May 17 19:03:51 -0600 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Tracing_a_verse_in_the_Pur=C4=81=E1=B9=87as?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Madhav, According to the verse-index of the Nag Publishers printing of the *Padmamah?pur??am* (so on title page), this is P???la kha??a (the 5th), adhy?ya 108, verse 20. I checked the text, and this reference is correct. As we know, but not stated on the copyright pages of the Nag Publishers printings of the pur??as, they are photographic reprints of the Ve?ka?e?vara Press editions published in manuscript form at Bombay in the early 1900s. The added verse-indexes to the Nag Publishers reprints are very helpful. I do not know of a cumulative verse index for all of the major pur??as. This would be very helpful indeed. Best regards, David Reigle Colorado, U.S.A. On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 1:40 PM, Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > I am trying to trace the following verse that is said to occur in the > Padmapur??a. I don't have an edition of the Padmapur??a with a verse > index. Is there a cumulative verse index to Pur??as? Any help is > appreciated. > > b?hum?lakucadvandvayonispar?anadar?an?t > > kasya na skhalati citta? reta? skanna? ca no bhavet > > > Madhav Deshpande > Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wujastyk at gmail.com Tue May 9 01:10:07 2017 From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Mon, 08 May 17 19:10:07 -0600 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Vim=C4=81n=C4=81rcan=C4=81kalpa=E1=B8=A5?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm extremely grateful to Madhav Deshpande for sending me a PDF of the 1926 edition within fifteen minutes. It's incredible. Thank you very much indeed, Madhav!!! ? -- Professor Dominik Wujastyk ?,? Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity ?,? Department of History and Classics ?,? University of Alberta, Canada ?.? South Asia at the U of A: ?sas.ualberta.ca? ?? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com Tue May 9 01:13:55 2017 From: hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com (Harry Spier) Date: Mon, 08 May 17 21:13:55 -0400 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Tracing_a_verse_in_the_Pur=C4=81=E1=B9=87as?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: David Reigle wrote: As we know, but not stated on the copyright pages of the Nag Publishers > printings of the pur??as, they are photographic reprints of the Ve?ka?e?vara > Press editions published in manuscript form at Bombay in the early 1900s. > Does that mean that with the exception of the added indices that this publication is not under copyright? Harry Spier -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 7:13 PM, Harry Spier wrote: > David Reigle wrote: > > As we know, but not stated on the copyright pages of the Nag Publishers >> printings of the pur??as, they are photographic reprints of the Ve?ka?e?vara >> Press editions published in manuscript form at Bombay in the early 1900s. >> > > Does that mean that with the exception of the added indices that this > publication is not under copyright? > > Harry Spier > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karp at uw.edu.pl Tue May 9 06:34:37 2017 From: karp at uw.edu.pl (Artur Karp) Date: Tue, 09 May 17 08:34:37 +0200 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_Indraj=C4=81lavidy=C4=81sa=E1=B9=81graha?= Message-ID: Dear List, Does anyone, by chance, possess access to a pdf of this Compendium? I have searched for it in all net archives and google-type sources, but - so far - no luck. Three editions are mentioned in Goudriaan-Gupta?s *Hindu Tantra and Sakta Literature*, p. 117: <> Your help would be greatly appreciated. Artur Karp (ret.) Chair of South Asian Studies University of Warsaw Polska -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be Tue May 9 06:53:09 2017 From: christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be (Christophe Vielle) Date: Tue, 09 May 17 08:53:09 +0200 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Tracing_a_verse_in_the_Pur=C4=81=E1=B9=87as?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <6D78C9EA-8DF1-4179-BC91-2BE98FFC5F74@uclouvain.be> > P???la kha??a (the 5th), adhy?ya 108, verse 20 reads b?hum?lastharomau ca mam?k?rau tath?naghau | atha brahm??am ?heda? bhaja tveka? gu?a? bhav?n || (Siva talking: "The two reddish and fair, Brahmaa and Vi.s.nu are my two sons.) They are the fine soft hair of the armpits, they have my form and are innocent. Then he said to Brahmaa: "You resort to (i.e. take) this one quality." (transl. G.P. Bhatt, AITM 44, pp. 2187-88) which does not at all correspond to b?hum?lakucadvandvayonispar?anadar?an?t kasya na skhalati citta? reta? skanna? ca no bhavet >From looking at and caressing [her] shoulders, breast and yoni, whose mind does not waver and whose seminal fluid would not drip? following Karen Lang's translation in ?? (I do not know) quoted in the reference below De: Christophe Vielle Objet: R?p : [INDOLOGY] Tracing a verse in the Pur??as Date: 7 mai 2017 18:11:11 UTC+2 ?: Madhav Deshpande The whole book is here : https://issuu.com/tenzinjemmynamdol/docs/gedun_chopel_-_tibetan_arts_of_love the "1983 ed. " appears to refer to the Tibetan text. I do not understand well to which writing of Karen Lang the author refers. http://religiousstudies.as.virginia.edu/node/75 ? 1999 ?Women's Roles in Ancient India.? In Women Roles in the Ancient Civilizations, ed. Bella Vivante. Westport CN: Greenwood Press, pp. 35-61. 1995a ?Shaven Heads and Loose Hair: Buddhist Reflections on Sexuality.? In Off With Her Head: The Denial of Women's Identity in Myth, Religion, and Culture. eds. Howard Eilberg-Schwartz and Wendy Doniger. Berkeley: University of California Press, pp. 32-52. 1982 ?Images of Women in Early Buddhism and Christian Gnosticism.? Buddhist-Christian Studies II: 95-105. Best Christophe Le 7 mai 2017 ? 13:28, Madhav Deshpande a ?crit : > Thanks. > > Madhav > > On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 6:17 AM, Christophe Vielle wrote: > No trace in the zloka-index of the NagPublishers ed. of the PadmaP (text = repr. of the Venkateshwara ed.) > I see this Tibetan translation of the same verse with reference to a Buddhist hybrid Sanskrit version: > https://books.google.be/books?id=zmxR93ZeSBMC > Tibetan Arts of Love: Sex, Orgasm, and Spiritual Healing > Par Gedun Chopel > p. 224 and fn. 3 Le 9 mai 2017 ? 03:03, David and Nancy Reigle via INDOLOGY a ?crit : > Dear Madhav, > > According to the verse-index of the Nag Publishers printing of the Padmamah?pur??am (so on title page), this is P???la kha??a (the 5th), adhy?ya 108, verse 20. I checked the text, and this reference is correct. As we know, but not stated on the copyright pages of the Nag Publishers printings of the pur??as, they are photographic reprints of the Ve?ka?e?vara Press editions published in manuscript form at Bombay in the early 1900s. > > The added verse-indexes to the Nag Publishers reprints are very helpful. I do not know of a cumulative verse index for all of the major pur??as. This would be very helpful indeed. > > Best regards, > > David Reigle > Colorado, U.S.A. > > On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 1:40 PM, Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY wrote: > I am trying to trace the following verse that is said to occur in the Padmapur??a. I don't have an edition of the Padmapur??a with a verse index. Is there a cumulative verse index to Pur??as? Any help is appreciated. > > b?hum?lakucadvandvayonispar?anadar?an?t > kasya na skhalati citta? reta? skanna? ca no bhavet > > > Madhav Deshpande > Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) ??????????????????? Christophe Vielle Louvain-la-Neuve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Madhav On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 3:15 AM, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear Madhav and Christophe, > > Undoubtably Hopkins consulted his colleague Karen Lang about the verse and > reports her response > to his query. He is not referring to her published work. I have no idea > why he is speaking of > "Buddhist Hybrid Sanskrit" here at all. The Tibetan author, > Dge-'dun-chos-'phel, spent considerable > time in India and was a fair Sanskritist. But Tibetan publications of his > writings often introduce > errors into his Sanskrit citations. This hardly qualifies them as BHS. > > Matthew > > Matthew Kapstein > Directeur d'?tudes, > Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes > > Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, > The University of Chicago > ------------------------------ > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From f.ferrari at chester.ac.uk Tue May 9 13:49:56 2017 From: f.ferrari at chester.ac.uk (Fabrizio Ferrari) Date: Tue, 09 May 17 13:49:56 +0000 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]___Raghunandana=E2=80=99s_Tithitattva?= Message-ID: <52290f0d5d2c43c993b6b2b4403beae4@MWEX2013-03.Chester.lan> Dear colleagues, I?m trying to trace Raghunandana Bha???c?ryya?s Tithitattva. So far no success. I found on DLI the second volume of his Smr?titattva (edited by J?v?nanda Vidy?s?gara) (Kalik?t?: Siddhe?vara Press, 1865). Does anybody know whether the first volume (which includes, amongst the others, Tithitattva) is available in a digital format as well? If so, I?d be very thankful if you could point me in the right direction or, even better, if you had one copy to share. With many thanks Fabrizio Fabrizio Ferrari Professor of Religious Studies (Indian Religions) Department of Theology and Religious Studies University of Chester Parkgate Road Chester CH1 4BJ Tel 01244 511039 f.ferrari at chester.ac.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ondracka at ff.cuni.cz Tue May 9 14:01:05 2017 From: ondracka at ff.cuni.cz (=?utf-8?Q?Lubom=C3=ADr_Ondra=C4=8Dka?=) Date: Tue, 09 May 17 16:01:05 +0200 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Raghunandana=E2=80=99s_Tithitattva?= In-Reply-To: <52290f0d5d2c43c993b6b2b4403beae4@MWEX2013-03.Chester.lan> Message-ID: <20170509160105.dd0d7927c198988da7e9762d@ff.cuni.cz> Dear Fabrizio, the first vol. is in DLI as well: http://www.new.dli.ernet.in/handle/2015/405554 or: http://www.new.dli.ernet.in/handle/2015/405554 Best, Lubomir On Tue, 9 May 2017 13:49:56 +0000 Fabrizio Ferrari via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > > > I?m trying to trace Raghunandana Bha???c?ryya?s Tithitattva. So far no success. I found on DLI the second volume of his Smr?titattva (edited by J?v?nanda Vidy?s?gara) (Kalik?t?: Siddhe?vara Press, 1865). Does anybody know whether the first volume (which includes, amongst the others, Tithitattva) is available in a digital format as well? If so, I?d be very thankful if you could point me in the right direction or, even better, if you had one copy to share. > > > > With many thanks > > > > Fabrizio > > > > > > Fabrizio Ferrari > Professor of Religious Studies (Indian Religions) > Department of Theology and Religious Studies > University of Chester > Parkgate Road > Chester CH1 4BJ > Tel 01244 511039 > f.ferrari at chester.ac.uk > > > > From ondracka at ff.cuni.cz Tue May 9 14:02:25 2017 From: ondracka at ff.cuni.cz (=?utf-8?Q?Lubom=C3=ADr_Ondra=C4=8Dka?=) Date: Tue, 09 May 17 16:02:25 +0200 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Raghunandana=E2=80=99s_Tithitattva?= In-Reply-To: <52290f0d5d2c43c993b6b2b4403beae4@MWEX2013-03.Chester.lan> Message-ID: <20170509160225.9a1e539d613a3dfb0f061075@ff.cuni.cz> Sorry, the second link is: http://www.new.dli.ernet.in/handle/2015/311970 L. On Tue, 9 May 2017 13:49:56 +0000 Fabrizio Ferrari via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > > > I?m trying to trace Raghunandana Bha???c?ryya?s Tithitattva. So far no success. I found on DLI the second volume of his Smr?titattva (edited by J?v?nanda Vidy?s?gara) (Kalik?t?: Siddhe?vara Press, 1865). Does anybody know whether the first volume (which includes, amongst the others, Tithitattva) is available in a digital format as well? If so, I?d be very thankful if you could point me in the right direction or, even better, if you had one copy to share. > > > > With many thanks > > > > Fabrizio > > > > > > Fabrizio Ferrari > Professor of Religious Studies (Indian Religions) > Department of Theology and Religious Studies > University of Chester > Parkgate Road > Chester CH1 4BJ > Tel 01244 511039 > f.ferrari at chester.ac.uk > > > > From f.ferrari at chester.ac.uk Tue May 9 14:07:50 2017 From: f.ferrari at chester.ac.uk (Fabrizio Ferrari) Date: Tue, 09 May 17 14:07:50 +0000 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Raghunandana=E2=80=99s_Tithitattva?= In-Reply-To: <20170509160225.9a1e539d613a3dfb0f061075@ff.cuni.cz> Message-ID: <3bf8f88efd4341eea1972b052df68d50@MWEX2013-03.Chester.lan> Many thanks to Lubom?r Ondra?ka and Madhav Deshpande for their quick reply. All good wishes, F -----Original Message----- From: Lubom?r Ondra?ka [mailto:ondracka at ff.cuni.cz] Sent: 09 May 2017 15:02 To: Fabrizio Ferrari Cc: Fabrizio Ferrari via INDOLOGY Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Raghunandana?s Tithitattva Sorry, the second link is: http://www.new.dli.ernet.in/handle/2015/311970 L. On Tue, 9 May 2017 13:49:56 +0000 Fabrizio Ferrari via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > > > I?m trying to trace Raghunandana Bha???c?ryya?s Tithitattva. So far no success. I found on DLI the second volume of his Smr?titattva (edited by J?v?nanda Vidy?s?gara) (Kalik?t?: Siddhe?vara Press, 1865). Does anybody know whether the first volume (which includes, amongst the others, Tithitattva) is available in a digital format as well? If so, I?d be very thankful if you could point me in the right direction or, even better, if you had one copy to share. > > > > With many thanks > > > > Fabrizio > > > > > > Fabrizio Ferrari > Professor of Religious Studies (Indian Religions) Department of > Theology and Religious Studies University of Chester Parkgate Road > Chester CH1 4BJ Tel 01244 511039 > f.ferrari at chester.ac.uk > > > > From karp at uw.edu.pl Tue May 9 15:01:05 2017 From: karp at uw.edu.pl (Artur Karp) Date: Tue, 09 May 17 17:01:05 +0200 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Indraj=C4=81lavidy=C4=81sa=E1=B9=81graha?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: My great thanks to Lubom?r Ondra?ka - for his fast help. I already have the text (Indraj?lavidy?sa?graha ED Vidy?s?gara (3rd ed. 1915).pdf), sent to me via WeTransfer. Here is the download link: https://wetransfer.com/downloads/ed615fa7383c57c5d305a32a825120 6e20170509063931/56a8e941faf7a7d7bdda15d5fc632ac320170509063931/856d3e Thanks again, Lubomir 2017-05-09 8:34 GMT+02:00 Artur Karp : > Dear List, > > Does anyone, by chance, possess access to a pdf of this Compendium? > > I have searched for it in all net archives and google-type sources, but - > so far - no luck. > > Three editions are mentioned in Goudriaan-Gupta?s *Hindu Tantra and Sakta > Literature*, p. 117: > > < several editions, e.g. those by J. VIDYASAGAR in: Indraj?lavidy?sa?graha, > Calcutta 1915 (bad ed.); by B.M. PANDEY, Varanasi 1963; by SY?MASUNDARAL?LA > TRIP??H?, Bombay 1909, re-ed. 1965, in 24 chs. See further IOL-SB, I, p. > 712.>> > > Your help would be greatly appreciated. > > Artur Karp (ret.) > > Chair of South Asian Studies > University of Warsaw > Polska > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karp at uw.edu.pl Tue May 9 16:12:23 2017 From: karp at uw.edu.pl (Artur Karp) Date: Tue, 09 May 17 18:12:23 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Ismail Jogi mantra Message-ID: Five years ago I sent to the List this question: << Mantras in popular Indian magic books - of indrajala type - invoke often two mysterious personages: Ismail Jogi and Nuna/Nona/Luna/Lona Chamarin. Has anyone written a paper on them. A monograph - perhaps?>> ?There was no answer. One such mantra runs as follows: *O? namo k?mr? des k?m?khy? dev?* *Tah?? base ism?il jog?* *Ism?il jogi ke t?n be??* *Ek to?e ek picho?e* *Ek ??t tij?r? go?e* I am not sure about the meaning of this mantra. Ismail Jogi (contradictio in adiecto) had three sons: one aborted (?), one retarded (?) one coolly (?) in your (?) womb. I would be grateful for your comments, Artur Karp (ret.) Chair of South Indian Studies, University of Warsaw Polska ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dnreigle at gmail.com Tue May 9 17:21:09 2017 From: dnreigle at gmail.com (David and Nancy Reigle) Date: Tue, 09 May 17 11:21:09 -0600 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Tracing_a_verse_in_the_Pur=C4=81=E1=B9=87as?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: My apologies for giving the wrong reference in the Padmapur??a, and my sincere thanks to Christophe for pointing this out. As I now see, the verse being asked about is actually Padma-pur??a 5.106.22, which is not referenced in the verse-index in the Nag Publishers edition. This was found by Shankara and posted on the Bharatiya-Vidvat-Parisat list. The verse that Madhav asked about is: b?hum?lakucadvandvayonispar?anadar?an?t kasya na skhalati citta? reta? skanna? ca no bhavet As found in the Ve?ka?e?vara Press edition reprinted by Nag Publishers, Padma-pur??a, P???la kha??a (the 5th), adhy?ya 106, verse 22, is: b?hum?lakucadva?dvasvayonispar?adar?an?t kasya na skhalate ceto reta? skanna? ca no bhavet In the ?nand??rama edition of the *Padmapur??am* (4 vols., 1893-1894), the P???la kha??a is the 4th rather than the 5th kha??a. Here this verse is found in adhy?ya 102 rather than 106, but the verse number remains the same, 22. Verse 4.102.22 in this edition (vol. 2, 1894, p. 682) is: b?hum?lakucadva?dvasvayonispar?adar?an?t kasya na skhalate citta? reta? skanna? ca no bhavet The other verse that Dge-'dun-chos-'phel quotes here, susnigdha? romarahita?, etc., is 5.106.17 in the Ve?ka?e?vara Press edition, and 4.102.17 in the ?nand??rama edition. Best regards, David Reigle Colorado, U.S.A. On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 5:16 AM, Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear Matthew and Christophe, > > I should clarify that the original question regarding the source of > these verses came from my colleague Don Lopez who is lookinf at this > Tibetan work and is aware of Karen Lang's translations. > > Madhav > > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 3:15 AM, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Dear Madhav and Christophe, >> >> Undoubtably Hopkins consulted his colleague Karen Lang about the verse >> and reports her response >> to his query. He is not referring to her published work. I have no idea >> why he is speaking of >> "Buddhist Hybrid Sanskrit" here at all. The Tibetan author, >> Dge-'dun-chos-'phel, spent considerable >> time in India and was a fair Sanskritist. But Tibetan publications of his >> writings often introduce >> errors into his Sanskrit citations. This hardly qualifies them as BHS. >> >> Matthew >> >> Matthew Kapstein >> Directeur d'?tudes, >> Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes >> >> Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, >> The University of Chicago >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wujastyk at gmail.com Tue May 9 23:06:08 2017 From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Tue, 09 May 17 17:06:08 -0600 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Indraj=C4=81lavidy=C4=81sa=E1=B9=81graha?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Many of the books published by Jivananda Vidyasagara Bhattacharyya are available in an organized way from archive.org , thanks to someone with the moniker "shankara." But the Indrajalavidyasangraha is missing from that list. ? -- Professor Dominik Wujastyk ?,? Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity ?,? Department of History and Classics ?,? University of Alberta, Canada ?.? South Asia at the U of A: ?sas.ualberta.ca? ?? On 9 May 2017 at 09:01, Artur Karp via INDOLOGY wrote: > My great thanks to Lubom?r Ondra?ka - for his fast help. > > I already have the text (Indraj?lavidy?sa?graha ED Vidy?s?gara (3rd ed. > 1915).pdf), sent to me via WeTransfer. > > Here is the download link: > > https://wetransfer.com/downloads/ed615fa7383c57c5d305a32a825 > 1206e20170509063931/56a8e941faf7a7d7bdda15d5fc632ac320170509063931/856d3e > > Thanks again, Lubomir > > 2017-05-09 8:34 GMT+02:00 Artur Karp : > >> Dear List, >> >> Does anyone, by chance, possess access to a pdf of this Compendium? >> >> I have searched for it in all net archives and google-type sources, but - >> so far - no luck. >> >> Three editions are mentioned in Goudriaan-Gupta?s *Hindu Tantra and >> Sakta Literature*, p. 117: >> >> <> several editions, e.g. those by J. VIDYASAGAR in: Indraj?lavidy?sa?graha, >> Calcutta 1915 (bad ed.); by B.M. PANDEY, Varanasi 1963; by SY?MASUNDARAL?LA >> TRIP??H?, Bombay 1909, re-ed. 1965, in 24 chs. See further IOL-SB, I, p. >> 712.>> >> >> Your help would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Artur Karp (ret.) >> >> Chair of South Asian Studies >> University of Warsaw >> Polska >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From witzel at fas.harvard.edu Tue May 9 23:44:23 2017 From: witzel at fas.harvard.edu (Witzel, Michael) Date: Tue, 09 May 17 23:44:23 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Summer Sanskrit @ harvard Message-ID: <5E5A75AB-48BC-42E2-9E3C-6466646D2884@fas.harvard.edu> A GENTLE REMINDER: there are a few days left to sign up for Summer Sanskrit @ Harvard. Please let your colleagues and students know?. Best wishes, Michael ============================================================== Dear All, Just like for the past 25 years, we are offering an introduction to Sanskrit in the Harvard Summer School, June 17 - Aug. 5. Please see: A few qualified High School Students are welcome as well. Please let your colleagues/students know. Registration is open until May 15. Hope seeing some of you over the Summer? M. WItzel From jknutson at hawaii.edu Wed May 10 00:25:58 2017 From: jknutson at hawaii.edu (Jesse Knutson) Date: Tue, 09 May 17 14:25:58 -1000 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_Udbha=E1=B9=ADa/Bh=C4=81maha?= Message-ID: Dear Friends, Does anyone have a soft copy of Gnoli's ed of Udbha?a's commentary on Bh?maha?, i.e.: Udbha?a's Commentary on the K?vy?la?k?ra of Bh?maha with an Appendix by Margherita Taticchi including some fragments of K?lid?sa's Raghuva??a. Literary and Historical Documents from Pakistan II. Rome: Istituto Italiano per il Medio ed Estremo Oriente, 1962. 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URL: From birgit.kellner at oeaw.ac.at Wed May 10 12:29:35 2017 From: birgit.kellner at oeaw.ac.at (Birgit Kellner) Date: Wed, 10 May 17 14:29:35 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Buddhasrijnana's Abhisamaya commentary In-Reply-To: <63F3BCA1-1F41-4C04-9269-888D193A7F83@gmail.com> Message-ID: <83efec4a-9c38-4793-34b1-bf97c3ec5770@oeaw.ac.at> In his Hindi autobiography "Meri Jivan Yatra", Sankrtyayan writes that he didn't have a camera suitable for photographing manuscripts at the time (the journey was undertaken in 1934), only a Rolleiflex (which at the most allowed him to take pictures of statues in monasteries). Moreover, he also had no facilities to develop the photographs in situ and therefore could not check whether they were ok -- and knew very little on photography at the time. He therefore took the trouble to transcribe everything that was important to him (like the Vibh?ticandra ms of Praj??karagupta's Pram??av?rttik?la?k?ra, or an ms of Dharmak?rti's V?dany?ya). If, therefore, there is no record that he took photographs of the Abhisamay?la?k?ra comm. on one of his later journeys (1936 or 1938), I'd say it's very unlikely that there are any (usable) photographs preserved in Patna. With best regards, Birgit >> On May 5, 2017, at 8:39 AM, P?ter-D?niel Sz?nt? via INDOLOGY >> > wrote: >> >> Rahul Sankrtyayan in his 1935 report wrote that he had seen and >> photographed a 27-folio ms. of Buddha?r?j??na's Abhisamay?la?k?ra >> commentary in Lhasa. >> >> Does anyone know what became of these photos? They do not seem to be >> kept in the G?ttingen collection (I checked Bandurski's catalogue >> relatively thoroughly). > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > -- _____ Prof. Dr. Birgit Kellner Director Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia Austrian Academy of Sciences Hollandstra?e 11-13/2 A-1020 Vienna / Austria Phone: +43-(0)1-51581-6420 Fax: +43-(0)1-51581-6410 From peter.daniel.szanto at gmail.com Wed May 10 12:47:59 2017 From: peter.daniel.szanto at gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?UMOpdGVyLUTDoW5pZWwgU3rDoW50w7M=?=) Date: Wed, 10 May 17 13:47:59 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Buddhasrijnana's Abhisamaya commentary In-Reply-To: <83efec4a-9c38-4793-34b1-bf97c3ec5770@oeaw.ac.at> Message-ID: Dear Birgit, Thank you for your valuable notes. Perhaps I should've written a follow-up email to this in good time. My friend Kazuo Kano came to the rescue -- and this is certainly not the first time! Apparently the plates were passed on to Wogihara, and later ended up with Kendai Eno'u (if this is the right spelling), who published it in 1973. Nagao wrote a review in 1976. The text is indeed called Praj??prad?p?val? (actually, this is only a part, the 8th chapter), just like its Tibetan translation, which is attributed to J??nap?da, but these are two very different texts! At first I thought that this must be the 'other' Buddha?r?j??na, who worked among the Gnubs, but then I started seeing quite exact parallels in Abhay?karagupta's Munimat?la?k?ra (and therefore in Da?abala?r?mitra's Sa?sk?t?sa?sk?tavini?caya). I'm still not quite sure, but chances are that this could be (a bit of) one of J??nap?da's juvenilia, composed after his study with Haribhadra (whose influence is undeniable), when he was at N?land?, before his (first) trip to the Konkan. Is Mer? j?van y?tr? online by any chance? It would be wonderful to read it, not only for 'our' interests, but also because it's considered, if I understand correctly, the foundation of the Hindi travelogue. Many thanks once again. Yours, Peter On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Birgit Kellner via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > In his Hindi autobiography "Meri Jivan Yatra", Sankrtyayan writes that he > didn't have a camera suitable for photographing manuscripts at the time > (the journey was undertaken in 1934), only a Rolleiflex (which at the most > allowed him to take pictures of statues in monasteries). > > Moreover, he also had no facilities to develop the photographs in situ and > therefore could not check whether they were ok -- and knew very little on > photography at the time. > > He therefore took the trouble to transcribe everything that was important > to him (like the Vibh?ticandra ms of Praj??karagupta's > Pram??av?rttik?la?k?ra, or an ms of Dharmak?rti's V?dany?ya). > > If, therefore, there is no record that he took photographs of the > Abhisamay?la?k?ra comm. on one of his later journeys (1936 or 1938), I'd > say it's very unlikely that there are any (usable) photographs preserved in > Patna. > > With best regards, > > Birgit > > On May 5, 2017, at 8:39 AM, P?ter-D?niel Sz?nt? via INDOLOGY >>> > >>> wrote: >>> >>> Rahul Sankrtyayan in his 1935 report wrote that he had seen and >>> photographed a 27-folio ms. of Buddha?r?j??na's Abhisamay?la?k?ra >>> commentary in Lhasa. >>> >>> Does anyone know what became of these photos? They do not seem to be >>> kept in the G?ttingen collection (I checked Bandurski's catalogue >>> relatively thoroughly). >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> >> > -- > _____ > Prof. Dr. Birgit Kellner > Director > Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia > Austrian Academy of Sciences > Hollandstra?e 11-13/2 > A-1020 Vienna / Austria > Phone: +43-(0)1-51581-6420 > Fax: +43-(0)1-51581-6410 > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Perhaps I should've written a > follow-up email to this in good time. > > My friend Kazuo Kano came to the rescue -- and this is certainly not the > first time! Apparently the plates were passed on to Wogihara, and later > ended up with Kendai Eno'u (if this is the right spelling), who > published it in 1973. Nagao wrote a review in 1976. > > The text is indeed called Praj??prad?p?val? (actually, this is only a > part, the 8th chapter), just like its Tibetan translation, which is > attributed to J??nap?da, but these are two very different texts! > > At first I thought that this must be the 'other' Buddha?r?j??na, who > worked among the Gnubs, but then I started seeing quite exact parallels > in Abhay?karagupta's Munimat?la?k?ra (and therefore in > Da?abala?r?mitra's Sa?sk?t?sa?sk?tavini?caya). I'm still not quite sure, > but chances are that this could be (a bit of) one of J??nap?da's > juvenilia, composed after his study with Haribhadra (whose influence is > undeniable), when he was at N?land?, before his (first) trip to the Konkan. > > Is Mer? j?van y?tr? online by any chance? It would be wonderful to read > it, not only for 'our' interests, but also because it's considered, if I > understand correctly, the foundation of the Hindi travelogue. > > Many thanks once again. > > Yours, > Peter > > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Birgit Kellner via INDOLOGY > > wrote: > > In his Hindi autobiography "Meri Jivan Yatra", Sankrtyayan writes > that he didn't have a camera suitable for photographing manuscripts > at the time (the journey was undertaken in 1934), only a Rolleiflex > (which at the most allowed him to take pictures of statues in > monasteries). > > Moreover, he also had no facilities to develop the photographs in > situ and therefore could not check whether they were ok -- and knew > very little on photography at the time. > > He therefore took the trouble to transcribe everything that was > important to him (like the Vibh?ticandra ms of Praj??karagupta's > Pram??av?rttik?la?k?ra, or an ms of Dharmak?rti's V?dany?ya). > > If, therefore, there is no record that he took photographs of the > Abhisamay?la?k?ra comm. on one of his later journeys (1936 or 1938), > I'd say it's very unlikely that there are any (usable) photographs > preserved in Patna. > > With best regards, > > Birgit > > On May 5, 2017, at 8:39 AM, P?ter-D?niel Sz?nt? via INDOLOGY > > >> wrote: > > Rahul Sankrtyayan in his 1935 report wrote that he had seen and > photographed a 27-folio ms. of Buddha?r?j??na's > Abhisamay?la?k?ra > commentary in Lhasa. > > Does anyone know what became of these photos? They do not > seem to be > kept in the G?ttingen collection (I checked Bandurski's > catalogue > relatively thoroughly). > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info > (messages to the > list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list > options or unsubscribe) > > > -- > _____ > Prof. Dr. Birgit Kellner > Director > Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia > Austrian Academy of Sciences > Hollandstra?e 11-13/2 > A-1020 Vienna / Austria > Phone: +43-(0)1-51581-6420 > Fax: +43-(0)1-51581-6410 > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info > (messages to the list's > managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list > options or unsubscribe) > > -- _____ Prof. Dr. Birgit Kellner Director Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia Austrian Academy of Sciences Hollandstra?e 11-13/2 A-1020 Vienna / Austria Phone: +43-(0)1-51581-6420 Fax: +43-(0)1-51581-6410 From kauzeya at gmail.com Wed May 10 16:21:14 2017 From: kauzeya at gmail.com (Jonathan Silk) Date: Wed, 10 May 17 18:21:14 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Buddhasrijnana's Abhisamaya commentary In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Maybe this is what you refer to? Nagao's review must be this: Tateshiro Enn? ????, *Abhisamay?la?k?ra??stra??k? no Kenky?* Abhisamay?la?k?ra??stra.??k???? (?saka: Shitenn?ji shiin Seik?in Kiyomizudera ????????????, 1973). *Suzuki Gakujutsu Zaidan Kenky? Nenp?* ???????? 12/13 (1975/ 1976): 116?118. On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 2:47 PM, P?ter-D?niel Sz?nt? via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear Birgit, > > Thank you for your valuable notes. Perhaps I should've written a follow-up > email to this in good time. > > My friend Kazuo Kano came to the rescue -- and this is certainly not the > first time! Apparently the plates were passed on to Wogihara, and later > ended up with Kendai Eno'u (if this is the right spelling), who published > it in 1973. Nagao wrote a review in 1976. > > The text is indeed called Praj??prad?p?val? (actually, this is only a > part, the 8th chapter), just like its Tibetan translation, which is > attributed to J??nap?da, but these are two very different texts! > > At first I thought that this must be the 'other' Buddha?r?j??na, who > worked among the Gnubs, but then I started seeing quite exact parallels in > Abhay?karagupta's Munimat?la?k?ra (and therefore in Da?abala?r?mitra's > Sa?sk?t?sa?sk?tavini?caya). I'm still not quite sure, but chances are that > this could be (a bit of) one of J??nap?da's juvenilia, composed after his > study with Haribhadra (whose influence is undeniable), when he was at > N?land?, before his (first) trip to the Konkan. > > Is Mer? j?van y?tr? online by any chance? It would be wonderful to read > it, not only for 'our' interests, but also because it's considered, if I > understand correctly, the foundation of the Hindi travelogue. > > Many thanks once again. > > Yours, > Peter > > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Birgit Kellner via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> In his Hindi autobiography "Meri Jivan Yatra", Sankrtyayan writes that he >> didn't have a camera suitable for photographing manuscripts at the time >> (the journey was undertaken in 1934), only a Rolleiflex (which at the most >> allowed him to take pictures of statues in monasteries). >> >> Moreover, he also had no facilities to develop the photographs in situ >> and therefore could not check whether they were ok -- and knew very little >> on photography at the time. >> >> He therefore took the trouble to transcribe everything that was important >> to him (like the Vibh?ticandra ms of Praj??karagupta's >> Pram??av?rttik?la?k?ra, or an ms of Dharmak?rti's V?dany?ya). >> >> If, therefore, there is no record that he took photographs of the >> Abhisamay?la?k?ra comm. on one of his later journeys (1936 or 1938), I'd >> say it's very unlikely that there are any (usable) photographs preserved in >> Patna. >> >> With best regards, >> >> Birgit >> >> On May 5, 2017, at 8:39 AM, P?ter-D?niel Sz?nt? via INDOLOGY >>>> > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Rahul Sankrtyayan in his 1935 report wrote that he had seen and >>>> photographed a 27-folio ms. of Buddha?r?j??na's Abhisamay?la?k?ra >>>> commentary in Lhasa. >>>> >>>> Does anyone know what became of these photos? They do not seem to be >>>> kept in the G?ttingen collection (I checked Bandurski's catalogue >>>> relatively thoroughly). >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>> committee) >>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >>> or unsubscribe) >>> >>> >> -- >> _____ >> Prof. Dr. Birgit Kellner >> Director >> Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia >> Austrian Academy of Sciences >> Hollandstra?e 11-13/2 >> A-1020 Vienna / Austria >> Phone: +43-(0)1-51581-6420 >> Fax: +43-(0)1-51581-6410 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -- J. 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But the > Indrajalavidyasangraha is missing from that list. > > ? > -- > Professor Dominik Wujastyk > ?,? > > Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity > ?,? > > Department of History and Classics > > ?,? > University of Alberta, Canada > ?.? > > South Asia at the U of A: > > ?sas.ualberta.ca? > Regards Ajit Gargeshwari ? ????? ??????? ?? ??????????? ?????? ????? ?? ? ????? ??? ?????? ?????????? ?????? ? ?????? ???????? ???????2.20?? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dnreigle at gmail.com Wed May 10 16:57:50 2017 From: dnreigle at gmail.com (David and Nancy Reigle) Date: Wed, 10 May 17 10:57:50 -0600 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Buddhasrijnana's Abhisamaya commentary In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks, Jonathan, for this bibliographic information. I was just about to write asking for it. Unfortunately, the 1973 Japanese publication that would apparently include the Sanskrit text does not show up on WorldCat. Japanese publications are notoriously hard to get in the U.S.A. Peter, when you refer to Buddha?r?j??na's commentary, the Praj??prad?p?val?, you are apparently referring to Tohoku no. 3800. But you seem to be saying that the Sanskrit manuscript is actually of a portion of a different Praj??prad?p?val? commentary, one by J??nap?da? If so, does a Tibetan translation of it exist? Then, you are saying that it is only chapter 8. I assume that this means the last and eighth chapter of the Abhisamay?la?k?ra, which may or may not be the same as a possible chapter 8 of the Praj??prad?p?val? commentary. In any case, this text is of great interest. It had remained entirely unknown to me. If you (or anyone) has a copy of the 1973 Japanese publication that includes this Sanskrit text, I would be very grateful to receive it. Thanks! Best regards, David Reigle Colorado, U.S.A. On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Jonathan Silk via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Maybe this is what you refer to? > Nagao's review must be this: > > Tateshiro Enn? ????, *Abhisamay?la?k?ra??stra??k? no Kenky?* > Abhisamay?la?k?ra??stra.??k???? (?saka: Shitenn?ji shiin Seik?in > Kiyomizudera ????????????, 1973). *Suzuki Gakujutsu Zaidan Kenky? Nenp?* > ???????? 12/13 (1975/ 1976): 116?118. > > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 2:47 PM, P?ter-D?niel Sz?nt? via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Dear Birgit, >> >> Thank you for your valuable notes. Perhaps I should've written a >> follow-up email to this in good time. >> >> My friend Kazuo Kano came to the rescue -- and this is certainly not the >> first time! Apparently the plates were passed on to Wogihara, and later >> ended up with Kendai Eno'u (if this is the right spelling), who published >> it in 1973. Nagao wrote a review in 1976. >> >> The text is indeed called Praj??prad?p?val? (actually, this is only a >> part, the 8th chapter), just like its Tibetan translation, which is >> attributed to J??nap?da, but these are two very different texts! >> >> At first I thought that this must be the 'other' Buddha?r?j??na, who >> worked among the Gnubs, but then I started seeing quite exact parallels in >> Abhay?karagupta's Munimat?la?k?ra (and therefore in Da?abala?r?mitra's >> Sa?sk?t?sa?sk?tavini?caya). I'm still not quite sure, but chances are that >> this could be (a bit of) one of J??nap?da's juvenilia, composed after his >> study with Haribhadra (whose influence is undeniable), when he was at >> N?land?, before his (first) trip to the Konkan. >> >> Is Mer? j?van y?tr? online by any chance? It would be wonderful to read >> it, not only for 'our' interests, but also because it's considered, if I >> understand correctly, the foundation of the Hindi travelogue. >> >> Many thanks once again. >> >> Yours, >> Peter >> >> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Birgit Kellner via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >>> In his Hindi autobiography "Meri Jivan Yatra", Sankrtyayan writes that >>> he didn't have a camera suitable for photographing manuscripts at the time >>> (the journey was undertaken in 1934), only a Rolleiflex (which at the most >>> allowed him to take pictures of statues in monasteries). >>> >>> Moreover, he also had no facilities to develop the photographs in situ >>> and therefore could not check whether they were ok -- and knew very little >>> on photography at the time. >>> >>> He therefore took the trouble to transcribe everything that was >>> important to him (like the Vibh?ticandra ms of Praj??karagupta's >>> Pram??av?rttik?la?k?ra, or an ms of Dharmak?rti's V?dany?ya). >>> >>> If, therefore, there is no record that he took photographs of the >>> Abhisamay?la?k?ra comm. on one of his later journeys (1936 or 1938), I'd >>> say it's very unlikely that there are any (usable) photographs preserved in >>> Patna. >>> >>> With best regards, >>> >>> Birgit >>> >>> On May 5, 2017, at 8:39 AM, P?ter-D?niel Sz?nt? via INDOLOGY >>>>> > >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Rahul Sankrtyayan in his 1935 report wrote that he had seen and >>>>> photographed a 27-folio ms. of Buddha?r?j??na's Abhisamay?la?k?ra >>>>> commentary in Lhasa. >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone know what became of these photos? They do not seem to be >>>>> kept in the G?ttingen collection (I checked Bandurski's catalogue >>>>> relatively thoroughly). >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>>> committee) >>>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >>>> or unsubscribe) >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> _____ >>> Prof. Dr. Birgit Kellner >>> Director >>> Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia >>> Austrian Academy of Sciences >>> Hollandstra?e 11-13/2 >>> A-1020 Vienna / Austria >>> Phone: +43-(0)1-51581-6420 >>> Fax: +43-(0)1-51581-6410 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>> committee) >>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >>> or unsubscribe) >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > > > -- > J. Silk > Leiden University > Leiden University Institute for Area Studies, LIAS > Matthias de Vrieshof 3, Room 0.05b > 2311 BZ Leiden > The Netherlands > > copies of my publications may be found at > http://www.buddhismandsocialjustice.com/silk_publications.html > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ofer.peres at mail.huji.ac.il Wed May 10 19:01:01 2017 From: ofer.peres at mail.huji.ac.il (Ofer Peres) Date: Wed, 10 May 17 22:01:01 +0300 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_The_Vedic_"S=C4=81dhyas"?= Message-ID: Dear list members, I would be very grateful for any reference to secondary literature on the Vedic "S?dhyas." Many thanks, Ofer Peres. The Hebrew University of Jerusalem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jemhouben at gmail.com Wed May 10 21:15:28 2017 From: jemhouben at gmail.com (Jan E.M. Houben) Date: Wed, 10 May 17 22:15:28 +0100 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_The_Vedic_"S=C4=81dhyas"?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: An important appendix in Kuiper, F.B.J. 1979. Varu?a and Vid??aka. On the Origin of Sanskrit Drama. Amsterdam: North-Holland Publ. Comp. deals precisely with the Vedic "S?dhyas" (in a "structuralist" fashion). Another important study is: Heesterman, J.C. 1996. ? Die S?dhyas und die Kult des Feuers ?. Studien zur Indologie und Iranistik 20: 117-143. A study in the light of my theory of the virtual causality of ritual (e.g. ? Formal Structure and Self-referential Loops in Vedic Ritual. ? In : Ritual Dynamics and the Science of Ritual, I: Grammar and Morphology of Ritual (sous la dir. de A. Michaels et A. Mishra) : 29-63. Wiesbaden : Harrassowitz) is found in: ?Les perfectibles (s?dhy?) entre circularit? et causalit? du rituel v?dique.? In: Aux Abords de la Clairi?re : ?tudes indiennes et compar?es en l?honneur de Charles Malamoud, sous la dir. de D?Intino, Silvia et Caterina Guenzi, Turnhout, Brepols : 11-43. 2012. of which I will be happy to send you and anyone interested an offprint offlist. Jan Houben *Jan E.M. HOUBEN* Directeur d??tudes Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite Professor of South Asian History and Philology *?cole Pratique des Hautes ?tudes* *Sciences historiques et philologiques * 54, rue Saint-Jacques CS 20525 ? 75005 Paris johannes.houben at ephe.sorbonne.fr https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben www.ephe.fr On 10 May 2017 at 20:01, Ofer Peres via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear list members, > > I would be very grateful for any reference to secondary literature on the > Vedic "S?dhyas." > > Many thanks, > > Ofer Peres. > The Hebrew University of Jerusalem. > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wujastyk at gmail.com Thu May 11 01:26:20 2017 From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Wed, 10 May 17 19:26:20 -0600 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_=E2=80=8B_Indraj=C4=81lavidy=C4=81sa=E1=B9=81graha?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It's very nice to know about Shankara Prasad. Please convey my gratitude to him if you are in touch! ? -- Professor Dominik Wujastyk ?,? Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity ?,? Department of History and Classics ?,? University of Alberta, Canada ?.? South Asia at the U of A: ?sas.ualberta.ca? ?? On 10 May 2017 at 10:23, Ajit Gargeshwari wrote: > ?The up-loader of Jivananda Vidyasagara Bhattacharyya uploads using his > real name Shankara Prasad, unlike those who upload in all sorts of pseudo > names vidwanmanoranjani or javanesegraviton etc not caring much about > copy-write laws in the name of service Not all the uploads violate but > many do > > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 9:30 PM, > wrote: > >> From: Dominik Wujastyk >> To: Artur Karp >> Cc: indology >> Bcc: >> Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 17:06:08 -0600 >> Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] >> ?? >> Indraj?lavidy?sa?graha >> Many of the books published by Jivananda Vidyasagara Bhattacharyya are >> available in an organized way from archive.org >> , >> thanks to someone with the moniker "shankara." But the >> Indrajalavidyasangraha is missing from that list. >> >> ? >> -- >> Professor Dominik Wujastyk >> ?,? >> >> Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity >> ?,? >> >> Department of History and Classics >> >> ?,? >> University of Alberta, Canada >> ?.? >> >> South Asia at the U of A: >> >> ?sas.ualberta.ca? >> > > > > Regards > Ajit Gargeshwari > ? ????? ??????? ?? ??????????? ?????? ????? ?? ? ????? > ??? ?????? ?????????? ?????? ? ?????? ???????? ???????2.20?? > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Thu May 11 04:00:43 2017 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Thu, 11 May 17 00:00:43 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Font? Message-ID: Dear Colleagues, In my Manjushree-CSX font, I had designed characters like r and l with a small circle underneath to represent ? and ??. This was the usage in Wackernagel's Altindische Grammatik as seen in the extract below. 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Here are some charts, please see pg 13: Latin Modern Family of Fonts / The Technical Documentation Jackowski & Nowacki http://texdoc.net/texmf-dist/doc/fonts/lm/lm-info.pdf Best, Richard On Thu, 11 May 2017 00:00:43 -0400 Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > In my Manjushree-CSX font, I had designed characters like r and > l with a small circle underneath to represent ? and ??. This was the > usage in Wackernagel's Altindische Grammatik as seen in the extract > below. > > [image: Inline image 1] > Since I can no longer use the Manjushree-CSX font today, I am > wondering if there any Unicode fonts that are able to produce such > diacritics? Any suggestions? > > Madhav Deshpande > -- Richard Mahoney | INDICA ET BUDDHICA Littledene Bay Road Oxford New Zealand T: +64-3-312-1699 | www.indica-et-buddhica.org From peter.daniel.szanto at gmail.com Thu May 11 07:11:17 2017 From: peter.daniel.szanto at gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?UMOpdGVyLUTDoW5pZWwgU3rDoW50w7M=?=) Date: Thu, 11 May 17 08:11:17 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Buddhasrijnana's Abhisamaya commentary In-Reply-To: <1ce85cfb-239c-c2a2-bba8-caf3808c48ad@oeaw.ac.at> Message-ID: Dear Birgit, Thank you for the link! Time to resurrect my feeble and fading Hindi (I hope my teacher M?ria N?gyesi is not on this list, heaven knows she tried!). I am also interested to find out about R?hulj?'s last years, especially those leading up to his 1957 book on the doh?s. Was he already suffering from memory losses at this point? Yours, Peter On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Birgit Kellner wrote: > Dear Peter, (cc: INDOLOGY) > > good to hear Kazuo came to the rescue once again (as he so often does on > such matters)! I guess, then, that RS was lucky with these photographs, or > his self-assessment as a poor photographer in MJY is overstated. > > The second volume (1950) of Meri Jivan Yatra with the accounts on the > Tibetan journeys (1929-30, 1934, 1936 and 1938) can be found as PDF in the > DLI: http://www.dli.ernet.in/handle/2015/428822. > > Indeed, MJY makes for worthwhile reading, for many reasons! > > Best, Birgit > > > > > > Am 2017-05-10 um 14:47 schrieb P?ter-D?niel Sz?nt?: > >> Dear Birgit, >> >> Thank you for your valuable notes. Perhaps I should've written a >> follow-up email to this in good time. >> >> My friend Kazuo Kano came to the rescue -- and this is certainly not the >> first time! Apparently the plates were passed on to Wogihara, and later >> ended up with Kendai Eno'u (if this is the right spelling), who >> published it in 1973. Nagao wrote a review in 1976. >> >> The text is indeed called Praj??prad?p?val? (actually, this is only a >> part, the 8th chapter), just like its Tibetan translation, which is >> attributed to J??nap?da, but these are two very different texts! >> >> At first I thought that this must be the 'other' Buddha?r?j??na, who >> worked among the Gnubs, but then I started seeing quite exact parallels >> in Abhay?karagupta's Munimat?la?k?ra (and therefore in >> Da?abala?r?mitra's Sa?sk?t?sa?sk?tavini?caya). I'm still not quite sure, >> but chances are that this could be (a bit of) one of J??nap?da's >> juvenilia, composed after his study with Haribhadra (whose influence is >> undeniable), when he was at N?land?, before his (first) trip to the >> Konkan. >> >> Is Mer? j?van y?tr? online by any chance? It would be wonderful to read >> it, not only for 'our' interests, but also because it's considered, if I >> understand correctly, the foundation of the Hindi travelogue. >> >> Many thanks once again. >> >> Yours, >> Peter >> >> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Birgit Kellner via INDOLOGY >> > wrote: >> >> In his Hindi autobiography "Meri Jivan Yatra", Sankrtyayan writes >> that he didn't have a camera suitable for photographing manuscripts >> at the time (the journey was undertaken in 1934), only a Rolleiflex >> (which at the most allowed him to take pictures of statues in >> monasteries). >> >> Moreover, he also had no facilities to develop the photographs in >> situ and therefore could not check whether they were ok -- and knew >> very little on photography at the time. >> >> He therefore took the trouble to transcribe everything that was >> important to him (like the Vibh?ticandra ms of Praj??karagupta's >> Pram??av?rttik?la?k?ra, or an ms of Dharmak?rti's V?dany?ya). >> >> If, therefore, there is no record that he took photographs of the >> Abhisamay?la?k?ra comm. on one of his later journeys (1936 or 1938), >> I'd say it's very unlikely that there are any (usable) photographs >> preserved in Patna. >> >> With best regards, >> >> Birgit >> >> On May 5, 2017, at 8:39 AM, P?ter-D?niel Sz?nt? via INDOLOGY >> > >> > >> wrote: >> >> Rahul Sankrtyayan in his 1935 report wrote that he had seen >> and >> photographed a 27-folio ms. of Buddha?r?j??na's >> Abhisamay?la?k?ra >> commentary in Lhasa. >> >> Does anyone know what became of these photos? They do not >> seem to be >> kept in the G?ttingen collection (I checked Bandurski's >> catalogue >> relatively thoroughly). >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info >> (messages to the >> list's managing committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list >> options or unsubscribe) >> >> >> -- >> _____ >> Prof. Dr. Birgit Kellner >> Director >> Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia >> Austrian Academy of Sciences >> Hollandstra?e 11-13/2 >> A-1020 Vienna / Austria >> Phone: +43-(0)1-51581-6420 >> Fax: +43-(0)1-51581-6410 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info >> (messages to the list's >> managing committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list >> options or unsubscribe) >> >> >> > -- > _____ > Prof. Dr. Birgit Kellner > Director > Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia > Austrian Academy of Sciences > Hollandstra?e 11-13/2 > A-1020 Vienna / Austria > Phone: +43-(0)1-51581-6420 > Fax: +43-(0)1-51581-6410 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From peter.daniel.szanto at gmail.com Thu May 11 07:16:18 2017 From: peter.daniel.szanto at gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?UMOpdGVyLUTDoW5pZWwgU3rDoW50w7M=?=) Date: Thu, 11 May 17 08:16:18 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Buddhasrijnana's Abhisamaya commentary In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Jonathan, Yes, thank you. Elsewhere I found that the first name is to be transcribed as Kendai, not Tateshiro. Unfortunately I cannot find this link right now. Yours, Peter On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 5:21 PM, Jonathan Silk wrote: > Maybe this is what you refer to? > Nagao's review must be this: > > Tateshiro Enn? ????, *Abhisamay?la?k?ra??stra??k? no Kenky?* > Abhisamay?la?k?ra??stra.??k???? (?saka: Shitenn?ji shiin Seik?in > Kiyomizudera ????????????, 1973). *Suzuki Gakujutsu Zaidan Kenky? Nenp?* > ???????? 12/13 (1975/ 1976): 116?118. > > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 2:47 PM, P?ter-D?niel Sz?nt? via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Dear Birgit, >> >> Thank you for your valuable notes. Perhaps I should've written a >> follow-up email to this in good time. >> >> My friend Kazuo Kano came to the rescue -- and this is certainly not the >> first time! Apparently the plates were passed on to Wogihara, and later >> ended up with Kendai Eno'u (if this is the right spelling), who published >> it in 1973. Nagao wrote a review in 1976. >> >> The text is indeed called Praj??prad?p?val? (actually, this is only a >> part, the 8th chapter), just like its Tibetan translation, which is >> attributed to J??nap?da, but these are two very different texts! >> >> At first I thought that this must be the 'other' Buddha?r?j??na, who >> worked among the Gnubs, but then I started seeing quite exact parallels in >> Abhay?karagupta's Munimat?la?k?ra (and therefore in Da?abala?r?mitra's >> Sa?sk?t?sa?sk?tavini?caya). I'm still not quite sure, but chances are that >> this could be (a bit of) one of J??nap?da's juvenilia, composed after his >> study with Haribhadra (whose influence is undeniable), when he was at >> N?land?, before his (first) trip to the Konkan. >> >> Is Mer? j?van y?tr? online by any chance? It would be wonderful to read >> it, not only for 'our' interests, but also because it's considered, if I >> understand correctly, the foundation of the Hindi travelogue. >> >> Many thanks once again. >> >> Yours, >> Peter >> >> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Birgit Kellner via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >>> In his Hindi autobiography "Meri Jivan Yatra", Sankrtyayan writes that >>> he didn't have a camera suitable for photographing manuscripts at the time >>> (the journey was undertaken in 1934), only a Rolleiflex (which at the most >>> allowed him to take pictures of statues in monasteries). >>> >>> Moreover, he also had no facilities to develop the photographs in situ >>> and therefore could not check whether they were ok -- and knew very little >>> on photography at the time. >>> >>> He therefore took the trouble to transcribe everything that was >>> important to him (like the Vibh?ticandra ms of Praj??karagupta's >>> Pram??av?rttik?la?k?ra, or an ms of Dharmak?rti's V?dany?ya). >>> >>> If, therefore, there is no record that he took photographs of the >>> Abhisamay?la?k?ra comm. on one of his later journeys (1936 or 1938), I'd >>> say it's very unlikely that there are any (usable) photographs preserved in >>> Patna. >>> >>> With best regards, >>> >>> Birgit >>> >>> On May 5, 2017, at 8:39 AM, P?ter-D?niel Sz?nt? via INDOLOGY >>>>> > >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Rahul Sankrtyayan in his 1935 report wrote that he had seen and >>>>> photographed a 27-folio ms. of Buddha?r?j??na's Abhisamay?la?k?ra >>>>> commentary in Lhasa. >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone know what became of these photos? They do not seem to be >>>>> kept in the G?ttingen collection (I checked Bandurski's catalogue >>>>> relatively thoroughly). >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>>> committee) >>>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >>>> or unsubscribe) >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> _____ >>> Prof. Dr. Birgit Kellner >>> Director >>> Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia >>> Austrian Academy of Sciences >>> Hollandstra?e 11-13/2 >>> A-1020 Vienna / Austria >>> Phone: +43-(0)1-51581-6420 >>> Fax: +43-(0)1-51581-6410 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>> committee) >>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >>> or unsubscribe) >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > > > -- > J. Silk > Leiden University > Leiden University Institute for Area Studies, LIAS > Matthias de Vrieshof 3, Room 0.05b > 2311 BZ Leiden > The Netherlands > > copies of my publications may be found at > http://www.buddhismandsocialjustice.com/silk_publications.html > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From peter.daniel.szanto at gmail.com Thu May 11 07:25:02 2017 From: peter.daniel.szanto at gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?UMOpdGVyLUTDoW5pZWwgU3rDoW50w7M=?=) Date: Thu, 11 May 17 08:25:02 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Buddhasrijnana's Abhisamaya commentary In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear David, "when you refer to Buddha?r?j??na's commentary, the Praj??prad?p?val?, you are apparently referring to Tohoku no. 3800. But you seem to be saying that the Sanskrit manuscript is actually of a portion of a different Praj??prad?p?val? commentary, one by J??nap?da?" Indeed, the situation is somewhat bizarre. We have two works called Praj??prad?p?val? by two authors called Buddha?r?j??na. The first, (probably) written by THE J??nap?da is what we have in the Sanskrit fragment on Sankrtyayan's photographs and thus Enoo's edition (which indeed is a commentary on ASA ch. 8 - and the post-verses if you can call them that 9.1-2). This I cannot trace in Tibetan. The second is T?hoku no. 3800, which is by the later Buddha?r?j??na (12th c. or so?), for which we do not have the Sanskrit. It's strange, but there we are. Yours, Peter On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 5:57 PM, David and Nancy Reigle wrote: > Thanks, Jonathan, for this bibliographic information. I was just about to > write asking for it. Unfortunately, the 1973 Japanese publication that > would apparently include the Sanskrit text does not show up on WorldCat. > Japanese publications are notoriously hard to get in the U.S.A. > > Peter, when you refer to Buddha?r?j??na's commentary, the > Praj??prad?p?val?, you are apparently referring to Tohoku no. 3800. But you > seem to be saying that the Sanskrit manuscript is actually of a portion of > a different Praj??prad?p?val? commentary, one by J??nap?da? If so, does a > Tibetan translation of it exist? > > Then, you are saying that it is only chapter 8. I assume that this means > the last and eighth chapter of the Abhisamay?la?k?ra, which may or may not > be the same as a possible chapter 8 of the Praj??prad?p?val? commentary. > > In any case, this text is of great interest. It had remained entirely > unknown to me. If you (or anyone) has a copy of the 1973 Japanese > publication that includes this Sanskrit text, I would be very grateful to > receive it. Thanks! > > Best regards, > > David Reigle > Colorado, U.S.A. > > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Jonathan Silk via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Maybe this is what you refer to? >> Nagao's review must be this: >> >> Tateshiro Enn? ????, *Abhisamay?la?k?ra??stra??k? no Kenky?* >> Abhisamay?la?k?ra??stra.??k???? (?saka: Shitenn?ji shiin Seik?in >> Kiyomizudera ????????????, 1973). *Suzuki Gakujutsu Zaidan Kenky? Nenp?* >> ???????? 12/13 (1975/ 1976): 116?118. >> >> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 2:47 PM, P?ter-D?niel Sz?nt? via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >>> Dear Birgit, >>> >>> Thank you for your valuable notes. Perhaps I should've written a >>> follow-up email to this in good time. >>> >>> My friend Kazuo Kano came to the rescue -- and this is certainly not the >>> first time! Apparently the plates were passed on to Wogihara, and later >>> ended up with Kendai Eno'u (if this is the right spelling), who published >>> it in 1973. Nagao wrote a review in 1976. >>> >>> The text is indeed called Praj??prad?p?val? (actually, this is only a >>> part, the 8th chapter), just like its Tibetan translation, which is >>> attributed to J??nap?da, but these are two very different texts! >>> >>> At first I thought that this must be the 'other' Buddha?r?j??na, who >>> worked among the Gnubs, but then I started seeing quite exact parallels in >>> Abhay?karagupta's Munimat?la?k?ra (and therefore in Da?abala?r?mitra's >>> Sa?sk?t?sa?sk?tavini?caya). I'm still not quite sure, but chances are that >>> this could be (a bit of) one of J??nap?da's juvenilia, composed after his >>> study with Haribhadra (whose influence is undeniable), when he was at >>> N?land?, before his (first) trip to the Konkan. >>> >>> Is Mer? j?van y?tr? online by any chance? It would be wonderful to read >>> it, not only for 'our' interests, but also because it's considered, if I >>> understand correctly, the foundation of the Hindi travelogue. >>> >>> Many thanks once again. >>> >>> Yours, >>> Peter >>> >>> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Birgit Kellner via INDOLOGY < >>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >>> >>>> In his Hindi autobiography "Meri Jivan Yatra", Sankrtyayan writes that >>>> he didn't have a camera suitable for photographing manuscripts at the time >>>> (the journey was undertaken in 1934), only a Rolleiflex (which at the most >>>> allowed him to take pictures of statues in monasteries). >>>> >>>> Moreover, he also had no facilities to develop the photographs in situ >>>> and therefore could not check whether they were ok -- and knew very little >>>> on photography at the time. >>>> >>>> He therefore took the trouble to transcribe everything that was >>>> important to him (like the Vibh?ticandra ms of Praj??karagupta's >>>> Pram??av?rttik?la?k?ra, or an ms of Dharmak?rti's V?dany?ya). >>>> >>>> If, therefore, there is no record that he took photographs of the >>>> Abhisamay?la?k?ra comm. on one of his later journeys (1936 or 1938), I'd >>>> say it's very unlikely that there are any (usable) photographs preserved in >>>> Patna. >>>> >>>> With best regards, >>>> >>>> Birgit >>>> >>>> On May 5, 2017, at 8:39 AM, P?ter-D?niel Sz?nt? via INDOLOGY >>>>>> > >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Rahul Sankrtyayan in his 1935 report wrote that he had seen and >>>>>> photographed a 27-folio ms. of Buddha?r?j??na's Abhisamay?la?k?ra >>>>>> commentary in Lhasa. >>>>>> >>>>>> Does anyone know what became of these photos? They do not seem to be >>>>>> kept in the G?ttingen collection (I checked Bandurski's catalogue >>>>>> relatively thoroughly). >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>>>> committee) >>>>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >>>>> or unsubscribe) >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> _____ >>>> Prof. Dr. Birgit Kellner >>>> Director >>>> Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia >>>> Austrian Academy of Sciences >>>> Hollandstra?e 11-13/2 >>>> A-1020 Vienna / Austria >>>> Phone: +43-(0)1-51581-6420 >>>> Fax: +43-(0)1-51581-6410 >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>>> committee) >>>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >>>> or unsubscribe) >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>> committee) >>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >>> or unsubscribe) >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> J. Silk >> Leiden University >> Leiden University Institute for Area Studies, LIAS >> Matthias de Vrieshof 3, Room 0.05b >> 2311 BZ Leiden >> The Netherlands >> >> copies of my publications may be found at >> http://www.buddhismandsocialjustice.com/silk_publications.html >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karp at uw.edu.pl Thu May 11 07:34:33 2017 From: karp at uw.edu.pl (Artur Karp) Date: Thu, 11 May 17 09:34:33 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Font? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Madhav, I'd suggest the Gandhari Unicode font, it possesses both *r* & *l* with *"rings below"*. http://andrewglass.org/fonts.php Regards, Artur Karp PS. My Windows 7 has Gandhari Unicode in its set of symbols. Perhaps due to my downloading it. A long time ago, and I have already forgotten what and how. A. 2017-05-11 6:00 GMT+02:00 Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info>: > Dear Colleagues, > > In my Manjushree-CSX font, I had designed characters like r and l > with a small circle underneath to represent ? and ??. This was the usage > in Wackernagel's Altindische Grammatik as seen in the extract below. > > [image: Inline image 1] > Since I can no longer use the Manjushree-CSX font today, I am > wondering if there any Unicode fonts that are able to produce such > diacritics? Any suggestions? > > Madhav Deshpande > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karp at uw.edu.pl Thu May 11 07:49:16 2017 From: karp at uw.edu.pl (Artur Karp) Date: Thu, 11 May 17 09:49:16 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Font? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: For other Unicode fonts covering characters used to transliterate Indic-Tibetan texts see: https://collab.itc.virginia.edu/wiki/toolbox/Windows%20Unicode%20Diacritic%20Fonts.html Artur 2017-05-11 9:34 GMT+02:00 Artur Karp : > Dear Madhav, > > I'd suggest the Gandhari Unicode font, it possesses both *r* & *l* with *"rings > below"*. > > http://andrewglass.org/fonts.php > > Regards, > > Artur Karp > > PS. My Windows 7 has Gandhari Unicode in its set of symbols. Perhaps due > to my downloading it. A long time ago, and I have already forgotten what > and how. > > A. > > > > 2017-05-11 6:00 GMT+02:00 Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info>: > >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> In my Manjushree-CSX font, I had designed characters like r and l >> with a small circle underneath to represent ? and ??. This was the usage >> in Wackernagel's Altindische Grammatik as seen in the extract below. >> >> [image: Inline image 1] >> Since I can no longer use the Manjushree-CSX font today, I am >> wondering if there any Unicode fonts that are able to produce such >> diacritics? Any suggestions? >> >> Madhav Deshpande >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Thu May 11 10:26:28 2017 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Thu, 11 May 17 06:26:28 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Font? In-Reply-To: <20170511172612.00005fbb.rmahoney@fastmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Richard, I have been able to produce letters with the underdot. My question is about how to produce letters with a circle underneath as in "r? r?? l? l??". Madhav On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 1:26 AM, Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica < rmahoney at fastmail.com> wrote: > Dear Madhav, > > For a while I've been using the Latin Modern (Roman) fonts: > > http://www.gust.org.pl/projects/e-foundry/latin-modern > > r and l underdot are available in various forms. You might be able to > knock something up from these. > > Here are some charts, please see pg 13: > > Latin Modern Family of Fonts / The Technical Documentation > Jackowski & Nowacki > http://texdoc.net/texmf-dist/doc/fonts/lm/lm-info.pdf > > > > Best, Richard > > > > > On Thu, 11 May 2017 00:00:43 -0400 > Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY wrote: > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > In my Manjushree-CSX font, I had designed characters like r and > > l with a small circle underneath to represent ? and ??. This was the > > usage in Wackernagel's Altindische Grammatik as seen in the extract > > below. > > > > [image: Inline image 1] > > Since I can no longer use the Manjushree-CSX font today, I am > > wondering if there any Unicode fonts that are able to produce such > > diacritics? Any suggestions? > > > > Madhav Deshpande > > > > > > > -- > Richard Mahoney | INDICA ET BUDDHICA > Littledene Bay Road Oxford New Zealand > T: +64-3-312-1699 | www.indica-et-buddhica.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kauzeya at gmail.com Thu May 11 10:45:37 2017 From: kauzeya at gmail.com (Jonathan Silk) Date: Thu, 11 May 17 12:45:37 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Font? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mac I use the keyboard Asian Extended US, and there it is normally just "alt+r" to produce r?. I normally type in Minon or Brill or other fonts but it seems to always appear. I just tied it with Times New Roman, Palatino, even Ariel, it worked with all of them.... Jonathan On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Hi Richard, > > I have been able to produce letters with the underdot. My question > is about how to produce letters with a circle underneath as in "r? r?? l? > l??". > > Madhav > > On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 1:26 AM, Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica < > rmahoney at fastmail.com> wrote: > >> Dear Madhav, >> >> For a while I've been using the Latin Modern (Roman) fonts: >> >> http://www.gust.org.pl/projects/e-foundry/latin-modern >> >> r and l underdot are available in various forms. You might be able to >> knock something up from these. >> >> Here are some charts, please see pg 13: >> >> Latin Modern Family of Fonts / The Technical Documentation >> Jackowski & Nowacki >> http://texdoc.net/texmf-dist/doc/fonts/lm/lm-info.pdf >> >> >> >> Best, Richard >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 11 May 2017 00:00:43 -0400 >> Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY wrote: >> >> > Dear Colleagues, >> > >> > In my Manjushree-CSX font, I had designed characters like r and >> > l with a small circle underneath to represent ? and ??. This was the >> > usage in Wackernagel's Altindische Grammatik as seen in the extract >> > below. >> > >> > [image: Inline image 1] >> > Since I can no longer use the Manjushree-CSX font today, I am >> > wondering if there any Unicode fonts that are able to produce such >> > diacritics? Any suggestions? >> > >> > Madhav Deshpande >> > >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Richard Mahoney | INDICA ET BUDDHICA >> Littledene Bay Road Oxford New Zealand >> T: +64-3-312-1699 | www.indica-et-buddhica.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -- J. Silk Leiden University Leiden University Institute for Area Studies, LIAS Matthias de Vrieshof 3, Room 0.05b 2311 BZ Leiden The Netherlands copies of my publications may be found at http://www.buddhismandsocialjustice.com/silk_publications.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kauzeya at gmail.com Thu May 11 10:51:53 2017 From: kauzeya at gmail.com (Jonathan Silk) Date: Thu, 11 May 17 12:51:53 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Buddhasrijnana's Abhisamaya commentary In-Reply-To: Message-ID: About the reading of the name, an anecdote: I once asked my teacher, Nagao Gadjin (Masato!) how one would know how to read the name of a Japanese scholar. "Ask him" as his answer. "Yes, but what if he is dead?" "Then you're out of luck!" The list I made of Prof Nagao's bibliography was checked by him, but it is possible that 1) either he missed my error, or 2) he knew the scholar and pronounced his name as Tateshiro, or 3) he simply did not care. For most Japanese in most circumstances, a first name would not be used in any event, unless quite intimate, so it really doesn't matter, or 4) the scholar in question used both interchangeably himself (this happens more than you would imagine, even to the point--see above--where one might ask a Japanese scholar "Do you pronounce your name as A (Sino-Japanese fashion) or B (Japanese fashion)?" and get the answer: as you wish! best, Jonathan On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 9:16 AM, P?ter-D?niel Sz?nt? < peter.daniel.szanto at gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Jonathan, > > Yes, thank you. Elsewhere I found that the first name is to be transcribed > as Kendai, not Tateshiro. Unfortunately I cannot find this link right now. > > Yours, > Peter > > > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 5:21 PM, Jonathan Silk wrote: > >> Maybe this is what you refer to? >> Nagao's review must be this: >> >> Tateshiro Enn? ????, *Abhisamay?la?k?ra??stra??k? no Kenky?* >> Abhisamay?la?k?ra??stra.??k???? (?saka: Shitenn?ji shiin Seik?in >> Kiyomizudera ????????????, 1973). *Suzuki Gakujutsu Zaidan Kenky? Nenp?* >> ???????? 12/13 (1975/ 1976): 116?118. >> >> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 2:47 PM, P?ter-D?niel Sz?nt? via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >>> Dear Birgit, >>> >>> Thank you for your valuable notes. Perhaps I should've written a >>> follow-up email to this in good time. >>> >>> My friend Kazuo Kano came to the rescue -- and this is certainly not the >>> first time! Apparently the plates were passed on to Wogihara, and later >>> ended up with Kendai Eno'u (if this is the right spelling), who published >>> it in 1973. Nagao wrote a review in 1976. >>> >>> The text is indeed called Praj??prad?p?val? (actually, this is only a >>> part, the 8th chapter), just like its Tibetan translation, which is >>> attributed to J??nap?da, but these are two very different texts! >>> >>> At first I thought that this must be the 'other' Buddha?r?j??na, who >>> worked among the Gnubs, but then I started seeing quite exact parallels in >>> Abhay?karagupta's Munimat?la?k?ra (and therefore in Da?abala?r?mitra's >>> Sa?sk?t?sa?sk?tavini?caya). I'm still not quite sure, but chances are that >>> this could be (a bit of) one of J??nap?da's juvenilia, composed after his >>> study with Haribhadra (whose influence is undeniable), when he was at >>> N?land?, before his (first) trip to the Konkan. >>> >>> Is Mer? j?van y?tr? online by any chance? It would be wonderful to read >>> it, not only for 'our' interests, but also because it's considered, if I >>> understand correctly, the foundation of the Hindi travelogue. >>> >>> Many thanks once again. >>> >>> Yours, >>> Peter >>> >>> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Birgit Kellner via INDOLOGY < >>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >>> >>>> In his Hindi autobiography "Meri Jivan Yatra", Sankrtyayan writes that >>>> he didn't have a camera suitable for photographing manuscripts at the time >>>> (the journey was undertaken in 1934), only a Rolleiflex (which at the most >>>> allowed him to take pictures of statues in monasteries). >>>> >>>> Moreover, he also had no facilities to develop the photographs in situ >>>> and therefore could not check whether they were ok -- and knew very little >>>> on photography at the time. >>>> >>>> He therefore took the trouble to transcribe everything that was >>>> important to him (like the Vibh?ticandra ms of Praj??karagupta's >>>> Pram??av?rttik?la?k?ra, or an ms of Dharmak?rti's V?dany?ya). >>>> >>>> If, therefore, there is no record that he took photographs of the >>>> Abhisamay?la?k?ra comm. on one of his later journeys (1936 or 1938), I'd >>>> say it's very unlikely that there are any (usable) photographs preserved in >>>> Patna. >>>> >>>> With best regards, >>>> >>>> Birgit >>>> >>>> On May 5, 2017, at 8:39 AM, P?ter-D?niel Sz?nt? via INDOLOGY >>>>>> > >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Rahul Sankrtyayan in his 1935 report wrote that he had seen and >>>>>> photographed a 27-folio ms. of Buddha?r?j??na's Abhisamay?la?k?ra >>>>>> commentary in Lhasa. >>>>>> >>>>>> Does anyone know what became of these photos? They do not seem to be >>>>>> kept in the G?ttingen collection (I checked Bandurski's catalogue >>>>>> relatively thoroughly). >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>>>> committee) >>>>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >>>>> or unsubscribe) >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> _____ >>>> Prof. Dr. Birgit Kellner >>>> Director >>>> Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia >>>> Austrian Academy of Sciences >>>> Hollandstra?e 11-13/2 >>>> A-1020 Vienna / Austria >>>> Phone: +43-(0)1-51581-6420 >>>> Fax: +43-(0)1-51581-6410 >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>>> committee) >>>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >>>> or unsubscribe) >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>> committee) >>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >>> or unsubscribe) >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> J. Silk >> Leiden University >> Leiden University Institute for Area Studies, LIAS >> Matthias de Vrieshof 3, Room 0.05b >> 2311 BZ Leiden >> The Netherlands >> >> copies of my publications may be found at >> http://www.buddhismandsocialjustice.com/silk_publications.html >> > > -- J. Silk Leiden University Leiden University Institute for Area Studies, LIAS Matthias de Vrieshof 3, Room 0.05b 2311 BZ Leiden The Netherlands copies of my publications may be found at http://www.buddhismandsocialjustice.com/silk_publications.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rmahoney at fastmail.com Thu May 11 10:56:00 2017 From: rmahoney at fastmail.com (Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica) Date: Thu, 11 May 17 22:56:00 +1200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Font? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20170511225600.000073e2.rmahoney@fastmail.com> Hello Madhav, I haven't done this but I'd have thought that if you took the Latin Modern r and l underdots as a model then you might be able to use something like FontForge to create new characters by simply replacing the dots with circles: https://fontforge.github.io/en-US/ http://designwithfontforge.com/en-US/Diacritics_and_Accents.html The LM fonts are quite well designed so might make a decent starting point ... R On Thu, 11 May 2017 06:26:28 -0400 Madhav Deshpande wrote: > Hi Richard, > > I have been able to produce letters with the underdot. My > question is about how to produce letters with a circle underneath as > in "r? r?? l? l??". > > Madhav > > On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 1:26 AM, Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica > < rmahoney at fastmail.com> wrote: > > > Dear Madhav, > > > > For a while I've been using the Latin Modern (Roman) fonts: > > > > http://www.gust.org.pl/projects/e-foundry/latin-modern > > > > r and l underdot are available in various forms. You might be able > > to knock something up from these. > > > > Here are some charts, please see pg 13: > > > > Latin Modern Family of Fonts / The Technical Documentation > > Jackowski & Nowacki > > http://texdoc.net/texmf-dist/doc/fonts/lm/lm-info.pdf > > > > > > > > Best, Richard > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 11 May 2017 00:00:43 -0400 > > Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY wrote: > > > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > > > In my Manjushree-CSX font, I had designed characters like r > > > and l with a small circle underneath to represent ? and ??. This > > > was the usage in Wackernagel's Altindische Grammatik as seen in > > > the extract below. > > > > > > [image: Inline image 1] > > > Since I can no longer use the Manjushree-CSX font today, I > > > am wondering if there any Unicode fonts that are able to produce > > > such diacritics? Any suggestions? > > > > > > Madhav Deshpande > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Richard Mahoney | INDICA ET BUDDHICA > > Littledene Bay Road Oxford New Zealand > > T: +64-3-312-1699 | www.indica-et-buddhica.org > > > -- Richard Mahoney | INDICA ET BUDDHICA Littledene Bay Road Oxford New Zealand T: +64-3-312-1699 | www.indica-et-buddhica.org From mmdesh at umich.edu Thu May 11 11:53:15 2017 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Thu, 11 May 17 07:53:15 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Font? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Jonathan, I just now installed the Asian Extended US, and noticed that with this Keyboard I can type "r?", but the long "?" appears with an underdot, rather than a circle under the character, and there does not seem to be a way to do "l" with a circle underneath. There must be a way to do these things in Unicode. Madhav On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 6:45 AM, Jonathan Silk wrote: > On Mac I use the keyboard Asian Extended US, and there it is normally just > "alt+r" to produce r?. I normally type in Minon or Brill or other fonts but > it seems to always appear. I just tied it with Times New Roman, Palatino, > even Ariel, it worked with all of them.... > > Jonathan > > On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Hi Richard, >> >> I have been able to produce letters with the underdot. My question >> is about how to produce letters with a circle underneath as in "r? r?? >> l? l??". >> >> Madhav >> >> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 1:26 AM, Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica < >> rmahoney at fastmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Dear Madhav, >>> >>> For a while I've been using the Latin Modern (Roman) fonts: >>> >>> http://www.gust.org.pl/projects/e-foundry/latin-modern >>> >>> r and l underdot are available in various forms. You might be able to >>> knock something up from these. >>> >>> Here are some charts, please see pg 13: >>> >>> Latin Modern Family of Fonts / The Technical Documentation >>> Jackowski & Nowacki >>> http://texdoc.net/texmf-dist/doc/fonts/lm/lm-info.pdf >>> >>> >>> >>> Best, Richard >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 11 May 2017 00:00:43 -0400 >>> Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY wrote: >>> >>> > Dear Colleagues, >>> > >>> > In my Manjushree-CSX font, I had designed characters like r and >>> > l with a small circle underneath to represent ? and ??. This was the >>> > usage in Wackernagel's Altindische Grammatik as seen in the extract >>> > below. >>> > >>> > [image: Inline image 1] >>> > Since I can no longer use the Manjushree-CSX font today, I am >>> > wondering if there any Unicode fonts that are able to produce such >>> > diacritics? Any suggestions? >>> > >>> > Madhav Deshpande >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Richard Mahoney | INDICA ET BUDDHICA >>> Littledene Bay Road Oxford New Zealand >>> T: +64-3-312-1699 | www.indica-et-buddhica.org >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > > > -- > J. Silk > Leiden University > Leiden University Institute for Area Studies, LIAS > Matthias de Vrieshof 3, Room 0.05b > 2311 BZ Leiden > The Netherlands > > copies of my publications may be found at > http://www.buddhismandsocialjustice.com/silk_publications.html > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karp at uw.edu.pl Thu May 11 11:55:03 2017 From: karp at uw.edu.pl (Artur Karp) Date: Thu, 11 May 17 13:55:03 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Font? In-Reply-To: <20170511225600.000073e2.rmahoney@fastmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Discutants, let me repeat my earlier message: Gandhari Unicode font has both l/L and r/R with rings (not dots!) below. I use Windows, and have no problem with installing the font. Don't know if it works with Mac. Artur Karp -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks, Artur, for this chart of all characters in Gandhari Unicode. I do see here the characters with a ring underneath. My question now is if there is a Keyboard for Mac that would allow accessing these characters. Madhav On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 8:15 AM, Artur Karp wrote: > Look at the lowest part of the set: > > http://andrewglass.org/gu.php > > Artur > > 2017-05-11 14:08 GMT+02:00 Madhav Deshpande : > >> Hello Artur, >> >> I have Gandhari Unicode installed on my Mac. The question is how to >> access these characters. >> >> Madhav >> >> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 7:55 AM, Artur Karp wrote: >> >>> Dear Discutants, >>> >>> let me repeat my earlier message: >>> >>> Gandhari Unicode font has both l/L and r/R with rings (not dots!) below. >>> >>> I use Windows, and have no problem with installing the font. Don't know >>> if it works with Mac. >>> >>> Artur Karp >>> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From james.hartzell at gmail.com Thu May 11 12:27:49 2017 From: james.hartzell at gmail.com (James Hartzell) Date: Thu, 11 May 17 14:27:49 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Font? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Madhav Not sure if it would do what you want, but have you tried EasyUnicode? It works well on the Mac for the normal diacritics. Cheers James On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Thanks, Artur, for this chart of all characters in Gandhari Unicode. I do > see here the characters with a ring underneath. My question now is if > there is a Keyboard for Mac that would allow accessing these characters. > > Madhav > > On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 8:15 AM, Artur Karp wrote: > >> Look at the lowest part of the set: >> >> http://andrewglass.org/gu.php >> >> Artur >> >> 2017-05-11 14:08 GMT+02:00 Madhav Deshpande : >> >>> Hello Artur, >>> >>> I have Gandhari Unicode installed on my Mac. The question is how >>> to access these characters. >>> >>> Madhav >>> >>> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 7:55 AM, Artur Karp wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Discutants, >>>> >>>> let me repeat my earlier message: >>>> >>>> Gandhari Unicode font has both l/L and r/R with rings (not dots!) below. >>>> >>>> I use Windows, and have no problem with installing the font. Don't know >>>> if it works with Mac. >>>> >>>> Artur Karp >>>> >>> >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -- James Hartzell, PhD(2x) Basque Center on Cognition, Brain and Language (BCBL), Donostia, Spain Center for Mind/Brain Sciences (CIMeC), The University of Trento, Italy Center for Buddhist Studies, Columbia University, USA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From slindqui at mail.smu.edu Thu May 11 12:33:28 2017 From: slindqui at mail.smu.edu (Lindquist, Steven) Date: Thu, 11 May 17 12:33:28 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Font? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9BC262CE-4401-4E2C-A378-46E9F9EAD270@smu.edu> Accessing the under-circle on a Mac is not straight-forward at all in just about any keyboard layout. However, I use a version of the EasyUnicode font that Tim Lubin modified specifically for this purpose. In this case: r + (opt + 1) + r = r?, l + (opt + 1) + r = l? Tim may have more to say or a more recent version of the layout. Steven STEVEN LINDQUIST, PH.D. ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR, RELIGIOUS STUDIES DIRECTOR, ASIAN STUDIES ____________________ Dedman College of Humanities and Sciences, SMU PO Box 750202 | Dallas | TX | 75275-0202 Email: slindqui at smu.edu Web: http://faculty.smu.edu/slindqui From: INDOLOGY on behalf of Indology Reply-To: Madhav Deshpande Date: Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 7:08 AM To: Artur Karp Cc: Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica , Indology , Richard Mahoney Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Font? Hello Artur, I have Gandhari Unicode installed on my Mac. The question is how to access these characters. Madhav On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 7:55 AM, Artur Karp > wrote: Dear Discutants, let me repeat my earlier message: Gandhari Unicode font has both l/L and r/R with rings (not dots!) below. I use Windows, and have no problem with installing the font. Don't know if it works with Mac. Artur Karp -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gabriel.filosofia at hotmail.com Thu May 11 13:27:50 2017 From: gabriel.filosofia at hotmail.com (Gabriel Martino) Date: Thu, 11 May 17 13:27:50 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] The Study of Indian Religions in Latin America In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello, I would like to share with you a recently published work on the study of Indian religions in Latin America. I hope it helps us to attain a fairer image of the current state of the discipline in our region. Thanks, Gabriel Martino https://www.academia.edu/32578838/Martino_G_2017_._The_Study_of_Indian_Religions_in_Latin_America._En_International_Journal_of_Latin_American_Religions_Springer_vol._1 [http://a.academia-assets.com/images/open-graph-icons/fb-paper.gif] Martino, G (2017). The Study of Indian Religions in Latin America. En International Journal of Latin American Religions, Springer, vol. 1. www.academia.edu In the present paper, we examine the current state of the study of Indian religions in Latin America. An important investigation on the study of Sanskrit outside India conveys the image that the situation of the study of Indian religions in Latin ________________________________ De: INDOLOGY en nombre de indology-request at list.indology.info Enviado: mi?rcoles, 10 de mayo de 2017 06:30 a.m. Para: indology at list.indology.info Asunto: INDOLOGY Digest, Vol 52, Issue 10 Send INDOLOGY mailing list submissions to indology at list.indology.info To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology_list.indology.info INDOLOGY Info Page list.indology.info INDOLOGY is an internet discussion group whose primary purpose is to provide a forum for discussion among professional scholars of classical Indian (South Asian ... or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to indology-request at list.indology.info You can reach the person managing the list at indology-owner at list.indology.info When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of INDOLOGY digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Ismail Jogi mantra (Artur Karp) 2. Re: Tracing a verse in the Pur??as (David and Nancy Reigle) 3. Re: Indraj?lavidy?sa?graha (Dominik Wujastyk) 4. Summer Sanskrit @ harvard (Witzel, Michael) 5. Udbha?a/Bh?maha (Jesse Knutson) 6. Fwd: Vim?n?rcan?kalpa? (Dominik Wujastyk) 7. thanks to Andrew Ollett (Jesse Knutson) 8. Re: Buddhasrijnana's Abhisamaya commentary (Birgit Kellner) 9. Re: Buddhasrijnana's Abhisamaya commentary (P?ter-D?niel Sz?nt?) 10. Re: Buddhasrijnana's Abhisamaya commentary (Birgit Kellner) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 18:12:23 +0200 From: Artur Karp To: indology Subject: [INDOLOGY] Ismail Jogi mantra Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Five years ago I sent to the List this question: << Mantras in popular Indian magic books - of indrajala type - invoke often two mysterious personages: Ismail Jogi and Nuna/Nona/Luna/Lona Chamarin. Has anyone written a paper on them. A monograph - perhaps?>> ?There was no answer. One such mantra runs as follows: *O? namo k?mr? des k?m?khy? dev?* *Tah?? base ism?il jog?* *Ism?il jogi ke t?n be??* *Ek to?e ek picho?e* *Ek ??t tij?r? go?e* I am not sure about the meaning of this mantra. Ismail Jogi (contradictio in adiecto) had three sons: one aborted (?), one retarded (?) one coolly (?) in your (?) womb. I would be grateful for your comments, Artur Karp (ret.) Chair of South Indian Studies, University of Warsaw Polska ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Thu May 11 13:53:34 2017 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Thu, 11 May 17 09:53:34 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Font? In-Reply-To: <9BC262CE-4401-4E2C-A378-46E9F9EAD270@smu.edu> Message-ID: Just to let everyone know that using Ukelele I modified the EasyUnicode keyboardlayout for Mac (renamed as MMDUnicode) that allows easy entering of "r? r?? l? ?". For the benefit of those who may wish to use this keyboard layout, I have attached it here. This now allows an easy way to distinguish between ?? (l?) ? (?) in Roman transcription. Hope it is useful to some of you who would like to keep this distinction in transcription. I want to thank everyone who gave me suggestions about how to do this. With best wishes, Madhav Deshpande Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Lindquist, Steven via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Accessing the under-circle on a Mac is not straight-forward at all in just > about any keyboard layout. However, I use a version of the EasyUnicode > font that Tim Lubin modified specifically for this purpose. In this case: > r + (opt + 1) + r = r?, l + (opt + 1) + r = l? > > > > Tim may have more to say or a more recent version of the layout. > > > > Steven > > > > > > *S**TEVEN** L**INDQUIST**,** P**H**.D.* > > *A**SSOCIATE** P**ROFESSOR, **R**ELIGIOUS **S**TUDIES* > > *D**IRECTOR, **A**SIAN** S**TUDIES* > > *____________________* > > > > *Dedman College of Humanities and Sciences, SMU* > > *PO Box 750202 | Dallas | TX | 75275-0202* > > *Email: slindqui at smu.edu * > > *Web: http://faculty.smu.edu/slindqui * > > > > > > *From: *INDOLOGY on behalf of > Indology > *Reply-To: *Madhav Deshpande > *Date: *Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 7:08 AM > *To: *Artur Karp > *Cc: *Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica , > Indology , Richard Mahoney < > r.mahoney at indica-et-buddhica.org> > *Subject: *Re: [INDOLOGY] Font? > > > > Hello Artur, > > > > I have Gandhari Unicode installed on my Mac. The question is how to > access these characters. > > > > Madhav > > > > On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 7:55 AM, Artur Karp wrote: > > Dear Discutants, > > > > let me repeat my earlier message: > > > > Gandhari Unicode font has both l/L and r/R with rings (not dots!) below. > > > > I use Windows, and have no problem with installing the font. Don't know if > it works with Mac. > > > > Artur Karp > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ph2046 at columbia.edu Thu May 11 14:10:08 2017 From: ph2046 at columbia.edu (Paul Hackett) Date: Thu, 11 May 17 10:10:08 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Buddhasrijnana's Abhisamaya commentary In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear all, En'?'s book is in WorldCat. It can be found here: http://www.worldcat.org/title/abisamayarankara-shasutora-tika-no-kenkyu/oclc/703741390&referer=brief_results although you will note that the only holding institution listed is the National Diet Library (Tokyo). Regards, Paul Hackett Columbia University > On May 10, 2017, at 12:57 PM, David and Nancy Reigle via INDOLOGY wrote: > > Thanks, Jonathan, for this bibliographic information. I was just about to write asking for it. Unfortunately, the 1973 Japanese publication that would apparently include the Sanskrit text does not show up on WorldCat. Japanese publications are notoriously hard to get in the U.S.A. > > Peter, when you refer to Buddha?r?j??na's commentary, the Praj??prad?p?val?, you are apparently referring to Tohoku no. 3800. But you seem to be saying that the Sanskrit manuscript is actually of a portion of a different Praj??prad?p?val? commentary, one by J??nap?da? If so, does a Tibetan translation of it exist? > > Then, you are saying that it is only chapter 8. I assume that this means the last and eighth chapter of the Abhisamay?la?k?ra, which may or may not be the same as a possible chapter 8 of the Praj??prad?p?val? commentary. > > In any case, this text is of great interest. It had remained entirely unknown to me. If you (or anyone) has a copy of the 1973 Japanese publication that includes this Sanskrit text, I would be very grateful to receive it. Thanks! > > Best regards, > > David Reigle > Colorado, U.S.A. > > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Jonathan Silk via INDOLOGY > wrote: > Maybe this is what you refer to? > Nagao's review must be this: > > Tateshiro Enn? ????, Abhisamay?la?k?ra??stra??k? no Kenky? Abhisamay?la?k?ra??stra.??k???? (?saka: Shitenn?ji shiin Seik?in Kiyomizudera ????????????, 1973). Suzuki Gakujutsu Zaidan Kenky? Nenp? ???????? 12/13 (1975/ 1976): 116?118. > > > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 2:47 PM, P?ter-D?niel Sz?nt? via INDOLOGY > wrote: > Dear Birgit, > > Thank you for your valuable notes. Perhaps I should've written a follow-up email to this in good time. > > My friend Kazuo Kano came to the rescue -- and this is certainly not the first time! Apparently the plates were passed on to Wogihara, and later ended up with Kendai Eno'u (if this is the right spelling), who published it in 1973. Nagao wrote a review in 1976. > > The text is indeed called Praj??prad?p?val? (actually, this is only a part, the 8th chapter), just like its Tibetan translation, which is attributed to J??nap?da, but these are two very different texts! > > At first I thought that this must be the 'other' Buddha?r?j??na, who worked among the Gnubs, but then I started seeing quite exact parallels in Abhay?karagupta's Munimat?la?k?ra (and therefore in Da?abala?r?mitra's Sa?sk?t?sa?sk?tavini?caya). I'm still not quite sure, but chances are that this could be (a bit of) one of J??nap?da's juvenilia, composed after his study with Haribhadra (whose influence is undeniable), when he was at N?land?, before his (first) trip to the Konkan. > > Is Mer? j?van y?tr? online by any chance? It would be wonderful to read it, not only for 'our' interests, but also because it's considered, if I understand correctly, the foundation of the Hindi travelogue. > > Many thanks once again. > > Yours, > Peter > > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Birgit Kellner via INDOLOGY > wrote: > In his Hindi autobiography "Meri Jivan Yatra", Sankrtyayan writes that he didn't have a camera suitable for photographing manuscripts at the time (the journey was undertaken in 1934), only a Rolleiflex (which at the most allowed him to take pictures of statues in monasteries). > > Moreover, he also had no facilities to develop the photographs in situ and therefore could not check whether they were ok -- and knew very little on photography at the time. > > He therefore took the trouble to transcribe everything that was important to him (like the Vibh?ticandra ms of Praj??karagupta's Pram??av?rttik?la?k?ra, or an ms of Dharmak?rti's V?dany?ya). > > If, therefore, there is no record that he took photographs of the Abhisamay?la?k?ra comm. on one of his later journeys (1936 or 1938), I'd say it's very unlikely that there are any (usable) photographs preserved in Patna. > > With best regards, > > Birgit > > On May 5, 2017, at 8:39 AM, P?ter-D?niel Sz?nt? via INDOLOGY > >> wrote: > > Rahul Sankrtyayan in his 1935 report wrote that he had seen and > photographed a 27-folio ms. of Buddha?r?j??na's Abhisamay?la?k?ra > commentary in Lhasa. > > Does anyone know what became of these photos? They do not seem to be > kept in the G?ttingen collection (I checked Bandurski's catalogue > relatively thoroughly). > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > -- > _____ > Prof. Dr. Birgit Kellner > Director > Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia > Austrian Academy of Sciences > Hollandstra?e 11-13/2 > A-1020 Vienna / Austria > Phone: +43-(0)1-51581-6420 > Fax: +43-(0)1-51581-6410 > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > > -- > J. 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Madhav On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 10:11 AM, Lindquist, Steven wrote: > Received this time; my university must have stripped it out, which I think > happens sometimes with attachments from listservs. > > > > Much appreciated! > > > Steven > > > > > > > > *S**TEVEN** L**INDQUIST**,** P**H**.D.* > > *A**SSOCIATE** P**ROFESSOR, **R**ELIGIOUS **S**TUDIES* > > *D**IRECTOR, **A**SIAN** S**TUDIES* > > *____________________* > > > > *Dedman College of Humanities and Sciences, SMU* > > *PO Box 750202 | Dallas | TX | 75275-0202* > > *Email: slindqui at smu.edu * > > *Web: http://faculty.smu.edu/slindqui * > > > > > > *From: *Madhav Deshpande > *Date: *Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 9:05 AM > *To: *"Lindquist, Steven" > *Subject: *Re: [INDOLOGY] Font? > > > > Dear Steven, > > > > I do see the attachment to my email, but in case you don't get it, I > have attached it again. Hope it works. > > > > Madhav > > > > On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 10:01 AM, Lindquist, Steven > wrote: > > Hi Madhav, > > > > The keyboard layout didn't attach to the email. Would love a copy to > compare. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Steven > > > > > > > > *S**TEVEN** L**INDQUIST**,** P**H**.D.* > > *A**SSOCIATE** P**ROFESSOR, **R**ELIGIOUS **S**TUDIES* > > *D**IRECTOR, **A**SIAN** S**TUDIES* > > *____________________* > > > > *Dedman College of Humanities and Sciences, SMU* > > *PO Box 750202 | Dallas | TX | 75275-0202* > > *Email: slindqui at smu.edu * > > *Web: http://faculty.smu.edu/slindqui * > > > > > > *From: *INDOLOGY on behalf of > Indology > *Reply-To: *Madhav Deshpande > *Date: *Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 8:53 AM > *To: *"bvparishat at googlegroups.com" > *Cc: *Indology > *Subject: *Re: [INDOLOGY] Font? > > > > Just to let everyone know that using Ukelele I modified the EasyUnicode > keyboardlayout for Mac (renamed as MMDUnicode) that allows easy entering of > "r? r?? l? ?". For the benefit of those who may wish to use this keyboard > layout, I have attached it here. This now allows an easy way to > distinguish between ?? (l?) ? (?) in Roman transcription. Hope it is > useful to some of you who would like to keep this distinction in > transcription. I want to thank everyone who gave me suggestions about how > to do this. With best wishes, > > > > Madhav Deshpande > > Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > > > > On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Lindquist, Steven via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > Accessing the under-circle on a Mac is not straight-forward at all in just > about any keyboard layout. However, I use a version of the EasyUnicode > font that Tim Lubin modified specifically for this purpose. In this case: > r + (opt + 1) + r = r?, l + (opt + 1) + r = l? > > > > Tim may have more to say or a more recent version of the layout. > > > > Steven > > > > > > *S**TEVEN** L**INDQUIST**,** P**H**.D.* > > *A**SSOCIATE** P**ROFESSOR, **R**ELIGIOUS **S**TUDIES* > > *D**IRECTOR, **A**SIAN** S**TUDIES* > > *____________________* > > > > *Dedman College of Humanities and Sciences, SMU* > > *PO Box 750202 | Dallas | TX | 75275-0202* > > *Email: slindqui at smu.edu * > > *Web: http://faculty.smu.edu/slindqui * > > > > > > *From: *INDOLOGY on behalf of > Indology > *Reply-To: *Madhav Deshpande > *Date: *Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 7:08 AM > *To: *Artur Karp > *Cc: *Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica , > Indology , Richard Mahoney < > r.mahoney at indica-et-buddhica.org> > *Subject: *Re: [INDOLOGY] Font? > > > > Hello Artur, > > > > I have Gandhari Unicode installed on my Mac. The question is how to > access these characters. > > > > Madhav > > > > On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 7:55 AM, Artur Karp wrote: > > Dear Discutants, > > > > let me repeat my earlier message: > > > > Gandhari Unicode font has both l/L and r/R with rings (not dots!) below. > > > > I use Windows, and have no problem with installing the font. Don't know if > it works with Mac. > > > > Artur Karp > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: Dear colleagues, I would like to try out an idea, especially since we have some black-belt codicologists here. I noticed that in the mediaeval East Indian ms. corpus, we have a larger amount of pre-lined mss. among those dated to P?la regnal years than the ones dated in the Nepalese style. Perhaps I should explain: by pre-lined I mean primarily two double lines separating the margins and the string space(/s) on each side. Secondarily, the guideline for the s?tra to help maintain lines parallel to the edges. Something like this: ? My survey is not at all exhaustive, and, as I said before, this practice is not unheard of in Nepal. However, it starts in the P?la realm a little before 1000 CE and continues steadily up to the very end, whereas in Nepal it seems to begin only in the early 12th c. My hypothesis for the time being is that the Nepalese were emulating this habit. Also note that the script in these cases is usually what is referred to as 'ra?jan?' or simplified versions thereof. Ok, this last point sounds muddled, but I think that the palaeography for this corpus is pretty weak. Any comments would be greatly appreciated, especially if you can point me to some secondary literature on the subject. Best wishes, Peter Szant2 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: lined.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 81462 bytes Desc: not available URL: From slaje at kabelmail.de Fri May 12 09:58:06 2017 From: slaje at kabelmail.de (Walter Slaje) Date: Fri, 12 May 17 11:58:06 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] pre-lined mss. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I am aware of Georg B?hler's "?ber Lineale oder "Faulenzer" zur Herstellung von Manuskripten des westlichen und n?rdlichen Indien". In: Anzeiger der kaiserl. Akademie der Wissenschaften zu Wien, Philos.-hist. Cl. 34, 8 (1897), pp. 48-52. Kind regards, WS ----------------------------- Prof. Dr. Walter Slaje Hermann-L?ns-Str. 1 D-99425 Weimar Deutschland Ego ex animi mei sententia spondeo ac polliceor studia humanitatis impigro labore culturum et provecturum non sordidi lucri causa nec ad vanam captandam gloriam, sed quo magis veritas propagetur et lux eius, qua salus humani generis continetur, clarius effulgeat. Vindobonae, die XXI. mensis Novembris MCMLXXXIII. 2017-05-12 11:35 GMT+02:00 P?ter-D?niel Sz?nt? via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info>: > Dear colleagues, > > I would like to try out an idea, especially since we have some black-belt > codicologists here. > > I noticed that in the mediaeval East Indian ms. corpus, we have a larger > amount of pre-lined mss. among those dated to P?la regnal years than the > ones dated in the Nepalese style. > > Perhaps I should explain: by pre-lined I mean primarily two double lines > separating the margins and the string space(/s) on each side. Secondarily, > the guideline for the s?tra to help maintain lines parallel to the edges. > Something like this: > > > ? > My survey is not at all exhaustive, and, as I said before, this practice > is not unheard of in Nepal. However, it starts in the P?la realm a little > before 1000 CE and continues steadily up to the very end, whereas in Nepal > it seems to begin only in the early 12th c. 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On behalf of the IABS, my university, and the conference?s Planning Committee, I warmly submit this final circular for you to consult for the Congress schedule, the panels and section papers, the evening events, and additional information to help you plan your time in Toronto. We encourage all IABS members to attend the Congress in Toronto, and ask that you please circulate this document through our many communities of colleagues, students, and supporters, so that everyone feels welcome to attend and participate in the events this summer. General Information Please allow me to once more remind everyone that they must be a fully paid member of IABS for the year 2017 in order to attend the event, deliver a paper or sit on a panel in Toronto. IABS membership fees were due by December 31, 2016, but can still be paid retroactively anytime this year. IABS membership can be secured through the online form at the IABS website: www.iabsinfo.net. Initial enquiries about eligibility should be sent to the association?s Secretary General, Dr. Ulrich Pagel (up1 at soas.ac.uk). The Planning Committee received an overwhelming amount of excellent and exciting submissions, and it was with a heavy heart that we were not able to accept every paper. I wish to still encourage everyone who was not able to present this year to still attend the events in Toronto. Presentation of a paper is not required to attend the Congress, and everyone is subject to the same Congress registration fee. Online Congress registration opened October 1st, 2016, and will close just prior to the start of the proceedings, August 18th, 2017. Please see below for further details on how to register, information about the fee structure, as well as the amenities covered by the fee. 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I strongly encourage you to contact the Canadian Embassy or Consulate closest to you, to begin the visa process immediately. Presenters requiring a formal letter of invitation are requested to contact my Academic Coordinator, Tony Scott, at anthony.scott at utoronto.ca. For those registered participants not presenting a paper or acting in a formal capacity at the Congress, Tony is happy to prepare a formal letter confirming that you have paid the full fee, and are registered for the Congress. Airlines Registered Congress participants plus one accompanying person travelling to the Congress can qualify for a discount of up to 20% with the Star Alliance Network, which includes Air Canada, depending on fare and class of travel booked. I invite you to use the Conventions Plus online booking tool on our website, and to read about the participating airlines: http://www.iabs2017-uoft.ca/travel-and-accommodation/partners-travels/star-alliance/. 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Please send any cheques or bank drafts to the following address: Duncan Hill University of Toronto Mississauga Department of Historical Studies EH 209 C 3359 Mississauga Road Mississauga, ON L5L 1C6 Canada All cheques should be made out to ?The University of Toronto.? We regret that we can only accept fees in Canadian Dollars. Online congress registration opened October 1st, 2016, and will close just prior to the start of the proceedings, August 18th, 2017. Registration after this date and during the Congress can be made on-site at the Congress Registration and Information Desk, Bahen Centre Atrium, in cash (CAD), cheque, or bank draft. Graduate students who are presenting a paper at the Congress, and who are from countries with low currency exchange rates when compared to the Canadian Dollar, may request a fee reduction by writing to me directly at the address provided below. Decisions on fee reduction will be made on a case-by-case basis, but I encourage you to apply. Conference Travel Grants Unfortunately, the Planning Committee is not able to offer any travel grants for the XVIIIth Congress. Audio Visual Equipment The Congress venue is fully equipped with audio and visual equipment to suit the needs of our presenters. Should your presentation require additional equipment or other special requests, feel free to contact my Academic Coordinator, Tony Scott (anthony.scott at utoronto.ca), who would be glad to assist you. Roundtables and Workshop Several roundtables and a workshop of an academic nature have been initiated by individual IABS members and Congress sponsors, and the Planning Committee and I are honoured to host these events in the evening, after the regular academic programming concludes. A full list of these events is available below. Exhibitors The Planning Committee and I have invited several leading publishers in our field to present their services and products to Congress participants. Exhibition space will be in the Bahen Centre Atrium, and accessible throughout the Congress proceedings. A full list of the exhibitors attending the Congress will be made available on the website, and a publisher?s panel will also be part of the evening presentations on Tuesday, August 22nd, 2017. If you have any questions about the exhibitors participating in the XVIIIth IABS Congress, please write to Tamara Cohen (tamara.cohen at mail.utoronto.ca), part of my team here in Toronto. Congress Schedule *All event venues are at the University of Toronto, St. George Campus Saturday, August 19, 2017 15:00 ? 18:00 Pre-registration (Bahen Centre, Atrium) Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:00 ? 18:00 Registration (Bahen Centre, Atrium) 15:00 ? 17:00 Opening Session (Convocation Hall) 18:00 ? 20:00 Welcome Reception (Hart House, The Great Hall) Monday, August 21, 2017 09:00 ? 10:30 Panels & Sections (Bahen Centre) 10:30 ? 11:00 Tea & Coffee 11:00 ? 12:30 Panels & Sections (Bahen Centre) 12:30 ? 14:00 Lunch 14:00 ? 15:30 Panels & Sections (Bahen Centre) 15:30 ? 16:00 Tea & Coffee 16:00 ? 17:30 Panels & Sections (Bahen Centre) 17:30 ? 19:00 The Robert H. N. Ho Family Foundation Centre for Buddhist Studies at the University of Toronto: Roundtable (Royal Ontario Museum Auditorium) Tuesday, August 22, 2017 09:00 ? 10:30 Panels & Sections (Bahen Centre) 10:30 ? 11:00 Tea & Coffee 11:00 ? 12:30 Panels & Sections (Bahen Centre) 12:30 ? 14:00 Lunch 14:00 ? 15:30 Panels & Sections (Bahen Centre) 15:30 ? 16:00 Tea & Coffee 16:00 ? 17:30 Panels & Sections (Bahen Centre) 17:00 ? 19:00 IABS Board Meeting (Simcoe Hall, President?s Boardroom) 18:00 ? 19:00 Introducing the Fo Guang Buddhist Art Encyclopedia (Bahen Centre) 18:00 ? 19:00 Publishers Panel (Bahen Centre) 18:00 ? 20:00 Buddhist Universal Digital Archive: Workshop (Bahen Centre) 19:00 ? 20:00 Humanistic Buddhism in the Contemporary Age: Fo Guang Shan ??? at 50 (Bahen Centre) Wednesday, August 23, 2017 09:00 ? 10:30 Panels & Sections (Bahen Centre) 10:30 ? 11:00 Tea & Coffee 11:00 ? 12:30 Panels & Sections (Bahen Centre) 12:30 ? 14:00 Lunch 14:00 ? 15:30 Panels & Sections (Bahen Centre) 15:30 ? 16:00 Tea & Coffee 16:00 ? 17:30 Panels & Sections (Bahen Centre) 18:00 ? 19:00 Bukky? Dend? Ky?kai Fellowship: Roundtable (Bahen Centre) 18:00 ? 20:00 Buddhist Studies in Canada: Roundtable (Bahen Centre) Thursday, August 24, 2017 09:00 ? 10:30 Panels & Sections (Bahen Centre) 10:30 ? 11:00 Tea & Coffee 11:00 ? 12:30 Panels & Sections (Bahen Centre) 12:30 ? 14:00 Lunch Afternoon Excursions Friday, August 25, 2017 09:00 ? 10:30 Panels & Sections (Bahen Centre) 10:30 ? 11:00 Tea & Coffee 11:00 ? 12:30 Panels & Sections (Bahen Centre 12:30 ? 14:00 Lunch 14:00 ? 15:30 Panels & Sections (Bahen Centre) 15:30 ? 16:00 Tea & Coffee 16:00 ? 17:30 Panels & Sections (Bahen Centre) 18:00 ? 19:30 General Meeting (Convocation Hall) 20:00 ? 22:00 Farewell Dinner (Hart House, The Great Hall) *Please note that the Planning Committee reserves the right to make programme changes as necessary. Academic Program The Congress has been organized into panels and section. Individual panel and section papers are limited to 20 minutes each, with an additional 10 minutes permitted for discussion. Individual papers will begin on the hour and half hour as per the conference schedule. Monday, August 21st, 2017 Morning Session Afternoon Session Buddhism and the Information Network in Medieval East Asia Monastic Espionage in East Asia in the Age of Isolationism, 14th to 19th Century The Manuscript Tradition of the Pali Texts in South and Southeast Asia Bell Inscriptions Across the Buddhist World Buddhist Tourism in Asia: Sacred Sites within Global Networks Discipline, Agency, Inquiry: Vinaya Reception in Women?s Monastic Communities Past and Present The Roles of Iconic Imagery in South Asian Buddhist Architectural Contexts Buddhism and Medicine Concepts and Techniques of Prognostication Information Technologies in Buddhist Studies Buddhist Places Early Buddhism Buddhist Literature Buddhist Literature Buddhism and Its Relation to Other Religions Buddhism and Its Relation to Other Religions Epistemology and Logic in Buddhism Epistemology and Logic in Buddhism Tuesday, August 22nd, 2017 Morning Session Afternoon Session Monastic Espionage in East Asia: Modern Period Conventional Reality, Conventional Truth Early Buddhist Manuscripts from Gandh?ra: New Discoveries and Research What Makes a Monastery a Great Monastery? Ritual, Doctrine, and Monasticism: Buddhist Practices in Dunhuang Recent Research on the D?rgh?gama Buddhist Ways of Reading Travel, Transmission, and Affiliation: Lineage in the Buddhist Crossroads of Inner Asia New Approaches to W?nhyo and His Thought?A Panel in Commemoration of the 1400th Anniversary of His Birth Transparent, Translucent, or Opaque: Chinese Translations of Indic Texts as Windows onto Indian Buddhism New Research on Newar Buddhism Reconstructing the History of Late Indian Buddhism (Part III)? Relationship between Tantric and Non-tantric Doctrines ? Epistemology and Logic in Buddhism Manuscripts, Codicology, and Epigraphy Buddhism and Society Buddhism and Society Mah?y?na Buddhism Wednesday, August 23rd, 2017 Morning Session Afternoon Session Recent Approaches in Vinaya Studies Stories Behind the Story: Revisiting the Buddha?s Hagiography Buddhist Cosmology and Astral Science Vinaya Commentaries Literatures of Contemplation Zones of Contact: Facets of Buddhist Interactions in Eastern Central Asia During the 9th-14th Centuries Transmission and Transformation of Buddhist Logic and Epistemology in East Asia (I): Dign?ga and Pre-Dign?ga Logic Transmission and Transformation of Buddhist Logic and Epistemology in East Asia (II): Dharmap?la, Bh?viveka, Xuanzang, and their impact on East Asian Buddhism The Buddha?s Footprint in Asian Cultures Therav?da Buddhism Mah?y?na Buddhism Manuscripts, Codicology, and Epigraphy Tantric Buddhism Tantric Buddhism Buddhist Art and Architecture Buddhist Art and Architecture Mah?y?na S?tras Thursday, August 24th, 2017 Morning Session Afternoon Session Buddhist Conceptions of History Excursions Buddhist Studies and the Scientific Study of Meditation Does Candrak?rti Offer Any Epistemology (pram??a)? Insights into Gandh?ran Buddhist Narratives through Art and Texts Buddhism in the S?tav?hana Empire Approaches to the Bodhicary?vat?ra Mah?y?na S?tras Buddhist Hermeneutics, Scholasticism, and Commentarial Techniques Abhidharma Studies Friday, August 23rd, 2017 Morning Session Afternoon Session The Avad?na?ataka: The Uses of Narrative Buddhism from the Margins: Using Manuscript Sources to Re-examine the Rituals and Routines of Medieval and Early Modern Buddhist Communities in Japan, Korea, and China A New Study of Ratn?kara??nti?s Praj??p?ramitopade?a Brahmin Buddhists Dh?ra?? Literature and Textual Cultures Deeds of a Buddha Images and Practices of Buddhist Kingship across Asia Yog?c?ra Across Asia: India, Tibet, and East Asia New Trajectories in the Study of Buddhism and Law Vinaya Studies Contemporary Buddhism Epistemology and Logic in Buddhism Buddhist Hermeneutics, Scholasticism, and Commentarial Techniques Buddhist Hermeneutics, Scholasticism, and Commentarial Techniques Buddhist Art and Architecture Abhidharma Studies The Canonical Languages of Buddhism INDIVIDUAL PAPERS Abstracts of all paper presentations will be available on the Congress website in the coming weeks. Though the Planning Committee will try our best to accommodate everyone, we reserve the right to make programme changes as necessary, and apologize for any inconvenience we may have caused. PANELS Panel 01: A New Study of Ratn?kara??nti?s Praj??p?ramitopade?a (Fri., Aug. 25th, 9:00-12:30) Katsura, Shoryu (Hiroshima University): The Four Yoga Stages of the Praj??p?ramitopade?a Shiga, Kiyokuni (Kyoto Sangyo University): On some common scriptural sources cited by Ratn?kara??nti and Kamala??la Nishiyama, Ryo (Ryukoku University): M?dhyamikas in the Praj??p?ramitopade?a Hayashima, Satoshi (Ryukoku University): The Theory of Three Natures in the Praj??p?ramitopade?a Kataoka, Kei (Kyushu University): Ratn?kara??nti on Prak??a Luo, Hong (China Tibetology Research Center): Ratn?kara??nti?s sketch of self-awareness in the Praj??p?ramitopade?a Panel 02: Approaches to the Bodhicary?vat?ra (Thurs., Aug. 24th, 9:00-12:30) Gyatso, Janet (Harvard University): Seeing Oneself from the Outside, and its Moral Work Carpenter, Amber (Yale-NUS): Reason and Knowledge on the Path Ohnuma, Reiko (Dartmouth College): Embodiment in the Bodhicary?vat?ra Harris, Stephen (Leiden University): Demandingness and Shaping the Self in the Bodhicary?vat?ra Goodman, Charles (Binghamton University-SUNY): Can We Know Whether ??ntideva was a Consequentialist? Chien, Gloria (Virginia Commonwealth University): The Vision and Moral Formation of a Bodhisattva Practitioner Panel 03: Bell Inscriptions Across the Buddhist World (Mon., Aug. 21st, 14:00-17:30) Willis, Michael (British Museum): Buddhist Bells in the British Museum Galambos, Imre (University of Cambridge): Buddhist Bell Inscriptions from China: Attempt at an Inventory Burdorf, Suzanne (Universiteit Ghent): Read the Bell: tracing the cultural and social history of monastic bells through inscriptions from Song (960?1276) China Doney, Lewis (British Museum): Large Tibetan Imperial Bells and Their Epigraphy Martin, Dan (Jerusalem): The Tibetan Bell in Armenia and its Inscription: An Account of a Quest to Account for it Bretfeld, Sven (Norges Teknisk-Naturvitenskapelige Universitet): Buddhist Bells and the Study of Religious Materiality: Some Theoretical Reflections Panel 04: Brahmin Buddhists (Fri., Aug. 25th, 14:00-17:30) Bausch, Lauren (Dharma Realm Buddhist University): The K??va Br?hma?as and Buddhists in Kosala Bronkhorst, Johannes (University of Lausanne): Were Buddhist Brahmins Buddhists or Brahmins? Chudal, Alaka (University of Vienna): Brahmin Buddhists in Northern South Asia McGovern, Nathan (Franklin and Marshall College): Buddhist Brahmans: Taking Early Buddhist Claims to Brahmanhood Seriously Walser, Joseph (Tufts University): Buddhism and Brahmanism: Who made the distinction (and who refused)? Freiberger, Oliver (University of Texas at Austin): Discussant Panel 05: Buddhism and the Information Network in Medieval East Asia (Mon., Aug. 21st, 9:00-12:30) Bauer, Mikael (McGill University): The Chronicle of J?e: The murder of a young Fujiwara monk in 7th century Japan Carlton, Kelly (University of Oxford): Monastic Spies, Secret Envoys, and Cross-Border Rendezvous: Buddhist Monk Deokjang ?? and His Contemporaries in Three Kingdoms Korea Chen, Jinhua (University of British Columbia): Monastic Espionage in Sui-Tang and Song dynasties Deeg, Max (Cardiff College): Gathering Intelligence, Keeping the Precepts: Xuanzang and Tang Imperial Policy Doell, Steffen (Universit?t Hamburg): Undercover dharma: Chan Masters in the Kamakura period Panel 06: Buddhism from the Margins: Using Manuscript Sources to Re-examine the Rituals and Routines of Medieval and Early Modern Buddhist Communities in Japan, Korea, and China (Fri., Aug. 25th, 14:00-17:30) Goodman, Amanda (University of Toronto): Recycled and Read: Reflections on the Personal Uses of Ritual Handbooks in Late Medieval Dunhuang Keyworth, George A. (University of Saskatchewan): Recovering Medieval Shint?-Buddhist Rituals at Matsuo Shrine through Eighth-Century Manuscripts from Bonshakuji, Fushimi, and Mt. Hiei Lin, Pei-ying (Fu Jen Catholic University): The Tendai Undertaking of Travelogues to Ninth-Century China Lowe, Bryan (Vanderbilt University): A Sermon on Verso, A Preacher in the Provinces: Re-centering the Study of Heian Buddhism McBride II, Richard D. (Brigham Young University): How Did Buddhists Venerate the Avata?saka-s?tra in Late Premodern Korea? Insights from Two Manuscript Rituals Texts Zhai, Minhao (Princeton University): Faces of Power: A Reexamination of the Foshuo qiqianfo shenfu jing ???????? Robson, James (Harvard University): Discussant Panel 07: Buddhism in the S?tav?hana Empire (Thurs., Aug. 24th, 9:00-12:30) Collett, Alice (Nalanda University): Women under S?tav?hana Rule Ollett, Andrew (Harvard University): S?takar?i and N?g?rjuna: Buddhism as a Public Religion under the S?tav?hanas Efurd, David (Wofford College): The Satavahana-Ksaharata War and Early Buddhist Patronage Shimada, Akira (SUNY New Paltz): Royal and Non-Royal Buddhist Patronage in the Early Deccan Visvanathan, Meera (Shiv Nadar University): The Idea of the ?Perpetual Gift?: The ak?aya-n?vi in the inscriptions of the Early Historic Deccan Zin, Monika (University of Leipzig): Kanaganahalli in the Satavahana Art and Buddhism Panel 08: Buddhist Conceptions of History Thurs., Aug. 24th, 9:00-12:30) Kieschnick, John (Stanford University): Dreams, Omens and Prophecy in Chinese Buddhist Historiography Stortini, Paride (University of Chicago): Promulgating the Law through History: What is Modern in Nanj? Buny??s A Short History of the Twelve Japanese Buddhist Sects? Balkwill, Stephanie (University of Southern California): Who Owns the Buddhist Past?: The Northern Wei as Bearers of High Buddhist Culture in Medieval China Stone, Jacqueline (Princeton University): Time, History, and the Lotus S?tra in Nichiren?s Thought MacCormack, Ian James (Harvard University): Buddhist Rule and Historical Thinking in Seventeenth-Century Tibet Thompson, Luke Noel (Columbia University): Japanese Buddhist Optimism about the Future, as seen in the Rebuilding of Nara and the Fabrication of New Myths Panel 09: Buddhist Cosmology and Astral Science (Wed., Aug. 23rd, 9:00-12:30) Huntington, Eric (Princeton University): Cosmology as a Framework for Expression in Text and Image Satinsky, Ruth (University of Lausanne): Untangling the historical relationship between the concepts of Mount Meru in early Buddhist, Jaina, and Brahmanical literature Hiyama-Karino, Satomi (Ryukoku University): Iconography of Sumeru in the Buddhist Art in Central Asia Mak, Bill M. (Kyoto University): The Buddhist transmission of Graham?t?k?dh?ra?? and other planetary astral texts Okada, Masahiko (Tenri University): The emergence of Buddhist astronomy and Buddhist science in nineteenth century Japan Yano, Michio (Kyoto Sangyo University): Discussant Panel 10: Buddhist Studies and the Scientific Study of Meditation (Thurs., Aug. 24th, 9:00-12:30) Braun, Erik (University of Virginia): Mindful but not Religious: Meditation and Enchantment in the Work of Jon Kabat-Zinn Davis, Jake (Brown University): The Value of Mindfulness Wilson, Jeff (University of Waterloo): The New Science of Health and Happiness: Investigating Buddhist and Non-Buddhist Engagements with the Scientific Study of Mindfulness Edelglass, William (Marlboro College): Buddhism, Happiness, and the Science of Meditation McMahan, David (Franklin & Marshall College): Epistemic Presuppositions in the Scientific Study of Meditation Panel 11: Buddhist Tourism in Asia: Sacred Sites within Global Networks (Mon., Aug. 21st, 9:00-12:30) Jaffe, Richard (Duke University): Following the Cotton Road: Japanese Corporate Pilgrimage to India, 1926?1927 Geary, David (University of British Columbia): Performing Love: Tourism and Transnational Courting at the Place of Buddha?s Enlightenment Lau, Ngar-Sze (Lancaster University): Constructing Burmese meditation communities in mainland China through Buddhist Tourism Marchman, Kendall (Young Harris College): Buddhism and the Bottom Line: The Nanshan Group and Buddhist Culture Parks Friedrich, Daniel (McMaster University): Recreational Buddhists: Travel and the construction of contemporary Japanese Buddhist identities Bruntz, Courtney (Doane University): Discussant Schedneck, Brooke (Chiangmai University): Discussant Panel 12: Buddhist Ways of Reading (Tue., Aug. 22nd, 9:00-12:30) Hallisey, Charles (Harvard University): Reading Buddhist Texts for Texture and Density Derris, Karen (Redlands University): Sharing Time: The Importance of Community Across Cosmic and Historic Time in P?li Commentaries Shulman, Eviatar (The Hebrew University of Jerusalem): The Buddha's Death as a Literary Event Gummer, Natalie (Beloit College): Speech Acts of the Buddha Nance, Richard (Indiana University): Reading as Yielding: Passages of Reception in Indian Buddhist Literature Heim, Maria (Amherst College): Discussant Panel 13: Concepts and Techniques of Prognostication (Mon., Aug. 21st, 9:00-12:30) Scheuermann, Rolf (IKGF, FAU Erlangen-Nuremberg): What can we learn from Tibetan Buddhist divinatory manuals? Maurer, Petra (Ludwig-Maximilians-Universit?t): Diagrams on Astrology and Divination Smith, Alexander (?cole Pratique des Hautes ?tudes): Prognostic Structure and the Question of Efficacy Guggenmos, Esther-Maria (FAU Erlangen-Nuremberg): The Availability of the Future?A Reflection on the Adaptability of Mantic Practices in Chinese Buddhism Seymour, Kelsey (University of Pennsylvania): Child Idols: Possession, Purity, and Prognoses in Accounts of Child Mediums in Medieval Chinese Buddhism Panel 14: Conventional Reality, Conventional Truth (Tue., Aug. 22nd, 14:00-17:30) Prueitt, Catherine (Emory University): Conventional Truth When There Is No Conventional Reality: Understanding Dharmak?rti on Conventional vs. Ultimate Means of Trustworthy Awareness Arnold, Dan (University of Chicago): How ?Conventional? is Conventional Truth? Thoughts on the Divergent Intuitions of Candrak?rti and ??ntarak?ita McClintock, Sara (Emory University): Recognizing the Ultimate as the Conventional?from N?g?rjuna to Kamala??la Finnigan, Bronwyn (Australian National University): Is svasa?vedana conventionally false? The search for a minimal self Thompson, Evan (University of British Columbia): Cognitive Science and Conventional Truth: The Case of Self-Awareness (Svasa?vedana) Sharf, Robert (University of California, Berkeley): Two Truths, Dialetheism, and Chan Panel 15: Deeds of a Buddha (Fri., Aug. 25th, 14:00-17:30) Tournier, Vincent (SOAS, University of London): What a Buddha Must Do: Spread and Scope of the Notion of buddhak?rya in Indian Buddhist Narratives of the Middle Period Luczanits, Christian (SOAS, University of London): Variations on a Theme: The Buddha?s Deeds in the ?yaka Reliefs at Kanaganahalli Ciurtin, Eugen (Institute for the History of Religions, Romanian Academy): The Deed of an Earthquake: The Seismic Web of a Buddha and the C?p?la Shrine Narrative Cycle Schmid, Neil (University of Vienna): The Corporeality of Buddha?s Deeds: Visual Depictions from Mogao and Yulin Almogi, Orna (Universit?t Hamburg): Tibetan Scholars on the Mah?y?na Concept of buddhak?rya/buddhakriy? against the Backdrop of Madhyamaka Philosophy in 12th?15th Century Tibet Sernesi, Marta (SOAS, University of London): The Buddha?s Twelve Deeds and Eight Places in Early Tibetan Historiographical Sources Panel 16: Dh?ra?? Literature and Textual Cultures (Fri., Aug. 25th, 9:00-12:30) Harrison, Paul (Stanford University): Remarks on the Sanskrit text of the Vi?e?avat? Dh?ra?? in the Sch?yen Collection Hidas, Gergely (The British Museum): Weather Control and Agriculture: The Vajratu??asamayakalpar?ja Holtz, Katherin (University of Lausanne): The Bhadrakar?tr?-s?tra: A Buddhist apotropaic text from Central Asia Overbey, Ryan Richard (Wesleyan University): Envisioning the Buddhist abecedary in the Amoghap??akalpar?ja Davidson, Ronald M. (Fairfield University): Dh?ra??s and the Sanctification of Painting Panel 17: Discipline, Agency, Inquiry: Vinaya Reception in Women?s Monastic Communities Past and Present (Mon., Aug. 21st, 14:00-17:30) Langenberg, Amy Paris (Eckerd College): The Textual Community of the Mah?s??ghika-lokottarav?din Bhik?u??-vinaya Dhammadinn?, Bhikkhun? (Dharma Drum Institute of Liberal Arts): The legal status of the sikkham?n? & the contemporary re-establishment of the Therav?da bhikkhun? lineage Heirman, Anne (Ghent University) Chiu, Tzu-Lung (Ghent University): Body Movement and Sport Activities for Buddhist Nuns: A Normative Perspective from India to China H?sken, Ute (Oslo University): The Re-making of the Bhikkhun?sa?gha in Transcultural Contexts Ther?, Tath?lok? (Bhikkhun? Vibha?ga Project): Coming into Our Own: The Re-making of the Bhikkhun?sa?gha in Transcultural Contexts Ng, Zhiru (Pomona College): Rethinking Vinaya Practice in Urban Buddhist Architecture and Space: A Female Buddhist Community in South Taiwan Mrozik, Susanne (Mt. Holyoke College): Discussant Panel 18: Does Candrak?rti Offer Any Epistemology (pram??a)? (Thurs., Aug. 24th, 9:00-12:30) Garfield, Jay L. (Smith College): Pr?sa?gika, Pram??a and the Problem of Foundations Powers, John (Deakin University): ?Jam dbyangs bshad pa?s Polemical Doxography Duckworth, Douglas (Temple University): Truth or Consequences: Implicit Commitments and the Logic of Pr?sa?gika Doctor, Thomas (Rangjung Yeshi Institute): Madhyamaka Dynamics: Early Tibetan Attitudes to Knowledge and the Problem of Emptiness Thakchoe, Sonam (University of Tasmania): The Problem of No-mind and Buddhahood: Taktsang and Tsongkhapa on Candrak?rti?s Epistemology Yi, Jongbok (Stockton University): Discussant Panel 19: Early Buddhist Manuscripts from Gandh?ra: New Discoveries and Research (Tue., Aug. 22nd, 9:00-12:30) Baums, Stefan (University of Munich): Manuscripts from Gandh?ra and G?ndh?r? Texts: History and State of the Field Strauch, Ingo (University of Lausanne): The Pr?timok?as?tra Fragments of the Bajaur Collection of Kharo??h? Manuscripts Marino, Joe (University of Washington): Burning, Blazing, Glowing: ?The Great Conflagration Hell? and Other Problems in a G?ndh?r? S?tra of the Senior Collection Cox, Collett (University of Washington): Commentarial Entanglements: The Case of the University of Washington Scroll Schlosser, Andrea (University of Munich): The Bajaur Mah?y?na S?tra in Relation to Other Buddhist Texts Ching, Chao?jung (Kyoto University): G?ndh?r? Manuscripts and Documents from Kuchean Buddhist Monasteries Panel 20: Images and Practices of Buddhist Kingship across Asia (Fri., Aug. 25th, 9:00-12:30) Zimmermann, Michael (Universit?t Hamburg): On Buddhas, Kings and Bodhisattvas: Spiritual and Worldly Rule in Indian Mah?y?na Buddhism Berkwitz, Stephen C. (Missouri State University): What is a Bodhisattva King? Sri Lankan Perspectives on Buddhist Kingship Pranke, Patrick (University of Louisville): The King who would be Buddha: King Bodawpaya?s Critique of Burmese Buddhist Origins and His Quest for the True Teachings Bryson, Megan (University of Tennessee): Humane Kings on the Border: The Renwang jing in Dali Buddhism Dotson, Brandon (Georgetown University): Debasing the God: Buddhism and Kingship in the Tibetan Empire Sango, Asuka (Carleton College): The Emperor Dreamed of Golden Light Lectures in Heian Japan (794?1185) Panel 21: Insights into Gandh?ran Buddhist Narratives through Art and Texts (Thurs., Aug. 24th, 9:00-12:30) Neelis, Jason (Wilfrid Laurier University): Regional Diversity and Doctrinal Standardization in the Transmission of Gandh?ran Narratives Allon, Mark (University of Sydney): Accounts of the Buddha?s life in the Senior Kharo??h? Manuscript collection and their counterparts in the art of Gandh?ra and ancient India Lenz, Timothy (University of Washington): What is the Buddha?s Gandh?ran Game? Pons, Jessie (CERES, Ruhr-Universit?t Bochum): Two Ascetics between Gandh?ra and Dunhuang and back: Transformations in the Depiction of the ?y?ma and the D?pa?kara J?takas Giuliano, Laura (National Museum of Oriental Art, Rome): The Archery Competition of Siddh?rtha in Gandh?ran art Zhu, Tianshu (University of Macau): Reassessing the Iconography of the Request of Brahm? and Indra from Gandh?ra Panel 22: Literatures of Contemplation (Wed., Aug. 23rd, 9:00-12:30) Crosby, Kate (Kings College): Traces of Experience: the texts of traditional Theravada meditation (bor?n kamma??h?na/yog?vacara) Germano, David (University of Virginia): Gnostic Skies, Texts and the Nomads who Wander Between: Direct Transcendence (thod rgal) Practice and Literature in the Great Perfection (rdzogs chen) Greene, Eric (Yale University): What exactly are ?meditation texts? and what should we do with them? Kachru, Sonam (University of Virginia): Overhearing ??ntideva Quintman, Andrew (Yale University): Illuminating Carefree Awareness: Tibetan Poetry Collections and the Landscape of Self Schaeffer, Kurtis (University of Virginia): Nature Imagery in Tibetan Contemplative Poetry Panel 23: Monastic Espionage in East Asia in the Age of Isolationism, 14th to 19th Century (Mon., Aug. 21st, 14:00-15:30) Wu, Jiang (University of Arizona): Was Yinyuan a Chinese Spy? Buddhism during the Ming-Qing Transition in Early Modern East Asia Bingenheimer, Marcus (Temple University): Disguised as Monks in Ming and Qing China: Glimpses and Anecdotal Evidence Olah, Csaba (International Christian University, Tokyo): Gozan monks and the gathering of domestic and international intelligence in the 15-17th century Japan Panel 24: Monastic Espionage in East Asia: Modern Period (Tue., Aug. 22nd, 9:00-12:30) Sen, Tansen (Baruch College): Monk-spies? The Activities of Chinese Monks in South Asia in the Early Twentieth Century Hamar, Imre (E?tv?s Lor?nd University): Ignatius Timothy Trebitsch-Lincoln (1879-1943): International Spy and First Westerner Ordained as a Buddhist monk in China Schicketanz, Erik (University of Tokyo): Japanese Buddhism and Military Intelligence in North China?The Case of the Sino-Japanese Society for the Study of Esoteric Buddhism Brose, Benjamin (University of Michigan): Missionary or Mole? Mizuno Baigy??s Forty Years in China, 1904?1944 Jagou, Fabienne (Ecole fran?aise d'Extr?me-Orient): Ouyang Wuwei???? (1913?1991): a Han monk working for the Chinese intelligence service in Tibet Panel 25: New Approaches to W?nhyo and His Thought-- A Panel in Commemoration of the 1400th Anniversary of His Birth (Tue., Aug. 22nd, 9:00-12:30) Buswell, Jr., Robert E. (UCLA): W?nhyo (617-686) as Commentator Cho, Eun-su (Seoul National University): Approaching Buddha-Nature in a M?dhyamika Way?W?nhyo?s Commentary on the Nirvana Sutra Guerra-Glarner, Monika (University of Geneva): Tankuang?s Commentary on the Dasheng Qixin Lun: Evidence of Wonhyo?s influence Lee, Sumi (Dongguk University): Interpreting the Awakening of Faith: W?nhyo (617-686) and Fazang?s (643-712) Distinct Readings of the Tath?gatagarbha in the Awakening of Faith Muller, Charles (University of Tokyo): The Role of Wonhyo's "System of the Two Hindrances" (Ijang-ui) in East Asian Buddhist Hindrances Discourse Plassen, J?rg (Ruhr-Universit?t Bochum): The Textuality of Interpenetration and Fusion: Some Musings on a Signature Feature of W?nhyo?s (617-686) Writings Panel 26: New Research on Newar Buddhism (Tue., Aug. 22nd, 9:00-12:30) Emmrich, Christoph (University of Toronto): Lists of Things in Newar Buddhist Ritual Shakya, Miroj (University of the West): The Worship of Ma?jusr? in Nepal Shakya, Sudan (Shuchiin University): The N?masa?g?ti in Newar Buddhism Alexander, James O?Neill (University of Toronto): Intraparatexts: The Agency of Texts in Newar Buddhism Bangdel, Dina (Virginia Commonwealth University in Qatar): Durgatiparishodhana Tantra in Newar Buddhism Panel 27: New Trajectories in the Study of Buddhism and Law (Fri., Aug. 25th, 9:00-12:30) French, Rebecca (University of Buffalo): Why ?Buddhism and Law? Now? Pirie, Fernanda (University of Oxford): Legal Ideologies in Medieval Tibet Lammerts, D.C. (Rutgers University): Ordeals in Buddhist Law Kieffer-P?lz, Petra (Academy of Sciences and Literature, Mainz): Local Disputes and Transnational Legal Decisions: The Globalization of Legal Decision-Making Regarding Local Disputes of Buddhist Communities Jansen, Berthe (Universiteit Leiden): Between Buddhism and Law: Tibetan Monastic Authors (?) and their Legal Texts Thomas, Jolyon (University of Pennsylvania): Public Good and Private Morality in Buddhist Contributions to the 2006 Revision of the Japanese Fundamental Law on Education Panel 28: Recent Approaches in Vinaya Studies (Wed., Aug. 23rd, 9:00-12:30) Yamagiwa, Nobuyuki (Bukkyo University): How to Store Monks? Food in Buddhist Monasteries: Methods of Food Preservation in the Extant Vinayas. Aono, Michihiko (University of Tokyo): The Relationship between the Dantaponasikkh?pada and Its Introductory Story Handy, Christopher (McMaster University): Politeness and Propriety in Buddhist Monastic Law: Applying Face Theory to Vinaya Texts. Sasaki, Shizuka (Hanazono University): Why Does the M?lasarv?stiv?da-vinaya Contain a Large Number of Tales? Borgland, Jens W. (McMaster University): Preliminary report on the Sanskrit manuscript fragments of the MSV Uttaragrantha in the Sch?yen Collection LaRose, Joseph (McMaster University): Cows, Leather, Sandals and Monks: Materiality in the Carmavastu of the M?lasarv?stiv?davinaya. Panel 29: Recent Research on the D?rgh?gama (Tue., Aug. 22nd, 14:00-17:30) Hartmann, Jens-Uwe (University of Munich): Which Da?ottaras?tra? A Curious Fragment and its Manifold Problems Yao, Fumi (McMaster University): The Mah?govindas?tra and Mah?govinda?s Stories: with the Focus on a Version in the M?lasarv?stiv?da Vinaya DiSimone, Charles (Ludwig-Maxilians Universit?t): Anyat?rthikaparivr?jakas and Their Doctrines as Portrayed in the (M?la-) Sarv?stiv?da D?rgh?gama Matsuda, Kazunobu (Bukkyo University) Choi, Jinkyoung (Ludwig-Maximilians Universit?t): The Source and Structure of the Trida??is?tra Melzer, Gudrun (Ludwig-Maximilians-Universit?t): The state of research on the D?rgh?gama manuscript and inquiries into the ??laskandha-nip?ta Panel 30: Reconstructing the History of Late Indian Buddhism (Part III)? Relationship between Tantric and Non-tantric Doctrines ? (Tue., Aug. 22nd, 14:00-17:30) Yiannopoulos, Alexander (Emory University): Abhi?eka as Sa?sk?ra: Initiation and Meditation in Ratn?kara??nti?s Tantric Commentaries Seton, Gregory (Dartmouth College): Integrating Non-tantric and Tantric Doctrines Through Praj??p?ramit? at Vikrama??la during the mid-Eleventh Century Tanemura, Ryugen (Taisho University) Kano, Kazuo (Koyasan University) Kuranishi, Kenichi (Taisho University): Ratnarak?ita on the Practice of Meditation?Its Validity and Fruit in Tantric Buddhism? Miyazaki, Izumi (Kyoto University): The Abhij??s and Preaching Dharma in the Bodhim?rgad?pa-pa?jik? Sferra, Francesco (University of Naples ?L?Orientale?): Adapting the Middle Path to the Vajra Vehicle: an Enquiry into the Doctrinal Settings of the Wheel of Time Wangchuk, Dorji (Universit?t Hamburg): Is Tantric Meditation Like Imagining Oneself a Lion When Afraid of Dogs? The Issue of the Superiority Claim of Vajray?na Panel 31: Ritual, Doctrine, and Monasticism: Buddhist Practices in Dunhuang (Tue., Aug. 22nd, 9:00-12:30) Coleman, Fletcher (Harvard University): The Buddha and the Brahman: Deciphering Ascetic Imagery in Early Medieval China Lee, Kwi Jeong (Princeton University): Celebrating the Buddha: Dedication of Images in Medieval Dunhuang Ding, Yi (Stanford University): Consecrating with Myths, Images, and Rituals: The Case of the Mogao Site Chen, Huaiyu (Arizona State University): Liturgies for Creating Four Mandalas in Dunhuang Manuscripts Zhanru (Peking University): The Rituals and Rules for the Household Patrons in Medieval Dunhuang: With Special Reference to the Manuscript P. 2984v. Liu, Cuilan (Emmanuel College): Adoptive Mother or Slave Owner? Adoption and Slavery in Buddhist Monasteries and Nunneries in Dunhuang Panel 32: Stories Behind the Story: Revisiting the Buddha?s Hagiography (Wed., Aug. 23rd, 14:00-17:30) Strong, John S. (Bates College): Buddhist Miracles and the Hagiography of the Buddha He, Xi (Appalachian State University): Behind the Stories: A Study of the Fo benxing jing Scheible, Kristin (Reed College): ?Behind Every Great Man?: Engendering the Mah?puru?a Shiri, Yael (SOAS): Revisiting the ??kya clan as a marker of Indian monastic self-representation in the Buddha?s Hagiographies Sasson, V.R. (Marianopolis College): Yasodhara?s story Nattier, Jan (University of California, Berkeley): Discussant Panel 33: The Avad?na?ataka: The Uses of Narrative (Fri., Aug. 25th, 9:00-12:30) Fifield, Justin (Harvard University): Bonds of Affection: Relationships and Group Solidarity in the Narratives of the Avad?na?ataka Muldoon-Hules, Karen (UCLA/UCLA Extension): Dar?an (seeing) and the role of faith (pras?da) in the Avad?na?ataka Appleton, Naomi (University of Edinburgh): On the Pratyekabuddhas of the Avad?na?ataka Rotman, Andy (Smith College): Hungry Ghostbusters: Lessons on Ethics in the Avad?na?ataka Fiordalis, David (Linfield College): How Avad?nas Work, or the Work of the Avad?na: Reflections on Stories from the Last Two Decades of the Avad?na?ataka Panel 34: The Buddha?s Footprint in Asian Cultures (Wed., Aug. 23rd, 9:00-12:30) Skilling, Peter (?cole fran?aise d'Extr?me-Orient): Symbols of Power and Fortune in Early India Analayo, Bhikkhu (Universit?t Hamburg): The Buddhapada and Early Buddhism Blackburn, Anne M. (Cornell University): Buddha Footprints in Lankan and Indian Ocean Networks Handlin, Lilian (Independent Scholar): Uttamasikkha and his Discontents Chirapravati, M.L. Pattaratorn (Yale-NUS College): Phrachao wai loyteen: Stamping the Buddha?s Footprints in the Northern Thai Region (fifteenth-eighteenth centuries) Cicuzza, Claudio (Lumbini International Research Institute): A Recently Discovered Manuscript of Buddhapadamangala from Wat Pho (Bangkok) Kim, Jinah (Harvard University): Discussant Panel 35: The Manuscript Tradition of the Pali Texts in South and Southeast Asia (Mon., Aug. 21st, 9:00-12:30) von Hin?ber, Oskar (University of Freiburg): The Wonderful World of Artificial Words in P?li: An Editor?s Nightmare and a Linguists Delight Shimizu, Yohei (Otani University): Report on the P?li Manuscript Tradition and Transmission in Central Thailand Kasamatsu, Sunao (Sendai National College of Technology): On the Jin?la?k?ra and its ??k? Ruiz-Falqu?s, Aleix (Dhammachai Tipitaka Project): A Manuscript of the Unpublished Saddan?ti-??k? Gornall, Alastair (Singapore University of Technology and Design): Mapping Late Medieval Science in Southern Asia von Hin?ber, Oskar (University of Freiburg): Discussant Wynne, Alexander (Liverpool Hope University): Discussant Yamanaka, Yukio (Dhammachai Tipitaka Project): Discussant Panel 36: The Roles of Iconic Imagery in South Asian Buddhist Architectural Contexts: Reconstructions and New Perspectives (Mon., Aug. 21st, 9:00-12:30) DeCaroli, Robert (George Mason University): Snakes and Gutters: N?ga Imagery as an Aspect of Water Control at Buddhist sites in the Western Deccan Rhi, Juhyung (Seoul National University): Images in the Showcase: The Architectural Placement of Images and its Bearings on their Significance in Gandharan Monasteries Huntington, Susan (Ohio State University): The Origin of the Buddha Image and the Buddha Image Hall: Some Thoughts on the Aniconic Theory Behrendt, Kurt (Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York): The Rise of Esoteric Buddhism and the 7th c. rock-cut sites of Dhamnar, Binnayaga and Kolvi Morrissey, Nicolas (University of Georgia): Observations on the Terracotta Plaques from Nandhad?rghika-vih?ra, Jagjivanpur, West Bengal Dhingra, Sonali (Harvard University): Beyond the vih?ra and the st?pa: locating Bodhisattva steles from Odisha, eighth to tenth centuries CE. Panel 37: Transmission and Transformation of Buddhist Logic and Epistemology in East Asia (I): Dign?ga and Pre-Dign?ga Logic (Wed., Aug. 23rd, 9:00-12:30) Ono, Motoi (Tsukuba University): ?A Reconsideration of Pre-Dign?ga Buddhist Texts on Logic (the *Up?yah?daya, the dialectical portion of the Spitzer Manuscript, the *Tarka??stra and the V?davidhi)? Gillon, Brendan S. (McGill University): The emergence of the canonical Indian syllogism as revealed by early Chinese Buddhist texts Lasic, Horst (Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia (IKGA), OEAW): How Dign?ga treats his opponents - observations from the Pram??asamuccaya, chapter two Muroya, Yasutaka (Austrian Academy of Sciences): On a fragment of Dign?ga?s Ny?yamukha Watanabe, Toshikazu (Austrian Academy of Sciences): On the concept of ny?na in Dign?ga?s theory of fallacy Inami, Masahiro (Tokyo Gakugei University): Pre-Dharmak?rti Interpretations of Dign?ga?s Theory of pak??bh?sa Panel 38: Transmission and Transformation of Buddhist Logic and Epistemology in East Asia (II): Dharmap?la, Bh?viveka, Xuanzang, and their impact on East Asian Buddhism (Wed., Aug. 23rd, 14:00-17:30) Lin, Chen-kuo (National Chengchi University): Allegory and Logic in Dharmap?la?s Commentary on the Vi??ik? He, Huanhuan (Zhejiang University): Can the Emptiness and the Existence be Proved by the Trair?pya? Moro, Shigeki (Hanazono University): Was there a dispute between Dharmap?la and Bh?viveka? East Asian Discussions on their Proofs of ??nyat? Kobayashi, Hisayasu (Chikushi Jogakuen University): Xuanzang?s Argument for vij?aptim?trat? and Its Indian Sources Tang, Mingjun (Fudan University): Dign?ga?s Words on acandra? ?a??, A Survey of Its Interpretation in the hetuvidy?-Tradition Moriyama, Shinya (Shinshu University): Kuiji on the four kinds of contradictory reasons (viruddhahetu) Panel 39: Transparent, Translucent, or Opaque: Chinese Translations of Indic Texts as Windows onto Indian Buddhism (Tue., Aug. 22nd, 14:00-17:30) Zacchetti. Stefano (University of Oxford): The Many Shades of Retranslation Shimoda, Masahiro (University of Tokyo): Chinese Translations and a Pali Commentary to Bridge a Gap between the ?Northern? and the ?Southern? Traditions Radich, Michael (Victoria University of Wellington): New Computer-Assisted Techniques for Assessing Internal Evidence of Questions of Ascription in Chinese Buddhist Canonical Texts Silk, Jonathan (Leiden University): Chinese Sutras in Tibetan: Tapping the Guidance of Contemporary Readers of Buddhist Chinese Baba, Norihisa (University of Tokyo): Language Ideology of P?li by the Mah?vih?ra Witkowski, Nicholas (University of Tokyo): The Practice of A?ubha-bh?van? in the Indian Buddhist Monastery: A Presentation of New Evidence from Vinaya Traditions Preserved in Chinese Panel 40: Travel, Transmission, and Affiliation: Lineage in the Buddhist Crossroads of Inner Asia (Tue., Aug. 22nd, 14:00-17:30) Wallace, Vesna (University of California, Santa Barbara): A Formation of the Lineage of the Lordly Incarnations (Noyan Khutukthus) of the Gobi and Its Affiliation with the Kagyu Tradition of Tibet Tsultem, Uranchimeg (University of California, Berkeley): The Mighty dGe lugs: their Emergence and Domination in Khalkha Mongolia King, Matthew (University of California, Riverside): Making and Unmaking Monastic, Scholastic, and Tantric Subjects in Late and Post-Imperial Inner Asia Van Vleet, Stacey (University of California, Berkeley): How Medical Technologies Travelled across Qing Imperial Cultures Ujeed, Sangseraima (Oxford University): The Biography of Lineages: the "thob yig gsal ba'i me long" of Khalkha Dza-ya Pa??ita (1642-1715) Sullivan, Brenton (Colgate University): Instituting Right Religious Practice from Afar: The Celestial Sands of Alashaa, Inner Mongolia and the Monastery of Pend? Gyatso Ling Panel 41: Vinaya Commentaries (Wed., Aug. 23rd, 14:00-17:30) Yonezawa, Yoshiyasu (Taisho University): A Survey of the Vinayas?tra: With Reference to the M?lasarv?stiv?da-vinaya Nietupski, Paul (John Carroll University): Studying Buddhist Beliefs and Practices through Vinaya Commentaries Emms, Christopher (McMaster University): Canonical Vinaya Quotations in the Work of ??kyaprabha Kishino, Ryoji (Bukkyo University): The Implications of Bu ston?s Doubts about the Authenticity of the Vinaya-sa?graha Newhall, Thomas (University of Tokyo): Daoxuan?s Vinaya Commentaries: An Overview of Materials Available, the Current State of Research, and Some Important Topics Clarke, Shayne (McMaster University): On the Nun-Friendly Vinaya Manuscript Traditions of Bhutan and their Relationship to Indian Vinaya Commentaries Panel 42: What Makes a Monastery a Great Monastery? Textual, art historical, and archaeological evidence from India to [the borders of] China (Tue., Aug. 22nd, 14:00-17:30) Scherrer-Schaub, Cristina (Universit? La Sorbonne): Indian Monastic Residences in Historical Perspective Brancaccio, Pia (Drexel University): A Mah?vih?ra in the Living Rock: The Later Horizon of the Kanheri Caves Amar, Abhishek S. (Hamilton College): Telhara: What does it mean to be a ?Mahavihara? in the Early Medieval Magadha Srinivasan, Doris Meth (State University of New York at Stony Brook): For Pregnancy and Neonatal Disorders Visit the Jetavana or Kanaganahalli Monasteries Filigenzi, Anna (University of Naples ?L?Orientale?): Early Buddhist monasteries in South Asia: Archaeological Mapping as cultural-historical inquiry Forte, Erika (Ruhr-Universit?t Bochum): Defining Greatness: Monasteries of the Tarim Area Oases Panel 43: Yog?c?ra Across Asia: India, Tibet, and East Asia (Fri., Aug. 25th, 14:00-17:30) Franco, Eli (Leipzig University): On the Arising of Philosophical Theories From Spiritual Practice Woo, Jeson (Dongguk University): On Dharmaph?la?s Caturbh?ga Theory Yao, Zhihua (The Chinese University of Hong Kong): Self-emptiness versus Other-emptiness: A Madhyamaka-Yog?c?ra Debate Park, Jin Y. (American University): Yog?c?ra, Chan, and the Paradox of the Mind Bayer, Achim (Kanazawa Seiryo University): Cittam?tra and Dependent Origination: As Treated in the Abhidharmasamuccaya, Candrak?riti?s Madhyamaka-avat?ra and the Venerable Seongcheol?s Sermon of a Hundred Days Keng, Ching (National Chengchi University, Taiwan): W?nch??k as a Traditionalist Yog?c?ra Thinker Panel 44: Zones of Contact: Facets of Buddhist Interactions in Eastern Central Asia During the 9th-14th Centuries (Wed., Aug. 23rd, 14:00-17:30) Meinert, Carmen (Ruhr-Universit?t Bochum): Buddhist Localisations in Pre-modern Eastern Central Asia within a Transcultural Buddhist Network Kasai, Yukiyo (Ruhr-Universit?t Bochum): The Old Uyghur Abhidharma Texts Containing Br?hm? Elements S?rensen, Henrik H. (Ruhr-Universit?t Bochum): A Padmap?ni Dh?ra??-Amulet from Dunhuang Solonin, Kirill (Ruhr-Universit?t Bochum/Renmin University Beijing): Transmission of the Two Truths Theory in Tangut Buddhism Weirong, Shen (Qinghua University Beijing): Yantra Yoga in the Tangut Xia Kingdom and Mongol-Yuan Dynasty Turek, Maria (Universit?t Bonn): Formation of the Tibetan Kingdom of Nangchen as Zone of Contact SECTIONS Section 01: Abhidharma Studies (Thurs., Aug. 24th, 9:00-12:30) Toleno, Robban (Columbia University): Theories of Nourishment in Premodern Chinese Buddhist Encyclopedias and the Limits of Consilience Hanner, Oren (Universit?t Hamburg): An Abhidharmic View on the Relation between Agents and Actions Based on the Abhidharmako?abh??ya of Vasubandhu Yi, Kyoowan (Seoul National University): The Theories of Buddhist Atomism- the Ultimate or the Conventional? Lin, Qian (University of California Berkeley): What Is a Buddhist School? A Case Study of Harivarman and His Chengshi Lun Pan, Tao (Ludwig-Maximilians-Universit?t): Tocharian Abhidharma Texts in Murtuq ? A Preliminary Survey Rheingans, Jim (Universit?t Bonn): Structuring a World View or Reproducing Knowledge? A Brief Survey of the Tibetan Abhidharmako?a Commentarial Literature (Fri., Aug. 25th, 16:00-17:30) Kaji, Tetsuya (Otani University): On the Groupings of Kle?a in the Sarv?stiv?da School Smith, Sean (University of Toronto): The Dynamics of the Subliminal Mind in Therav?da Buddhism: Two Readings of the Bhava?ga Citta Section 02: Buddhism and Its Relation to Other Religions (Mon., Aug. 21st, 9:00-15:30) Jenkins, Stephen (Humboldt State University): Debate, Magic, and Massacre: The High Stakes and Ethical Dynamics of Battling Slanderers of the Dharma in Indian Narrative and Ethical Theory Jones, Chris (University of Oxford): The T?rthika in Mah?y?na Buddhism Neri, Chiara (University La Sapienza of Rome) Pontillo, Tiziana (University of Cagliari): A philological approach to comparative religious studies: the case of yogakkhema/yogak?ema in Therav?da Buddhism and Brahmanism Osto, Douglas (Massey University): No-Self in S??khya: A Comparative Look at Classical S??khya and Therav?da Buddhism Qvarnstr?m, Olle (Lund University): Bh?viveka on S??khya Wrona, Alexander (University of Vienna): Buddhism in Arab States: The case of Sri Lankan Therav?da Buddhists Son, Jewongwan (Dongguk University): Dual Structure of Funeral Rites in the Southern Song Period Welter, Albert (University of Arizona): Literati Monks as Buddhist Junzi (?Confucian? Gentleman): Buddhist Administrators in the Chinese Context Section 03: Buddhism and Medicine (Mon., Aug. 21st, 14:00-15:30) Bright, Jennifer (University of Toronto): A Tibetan Buddhist Scientist: Gendun Ch?phel in Contemporary Tibetan Medical Literature Lin, Hsin-Yi (Columbia University): Treating Childbirth in Dharmic Medicine: Buddhist healing resources for reproduction in Medieval China Sik, Hin-Tak (University of Hong Kong): Diseases and Treatments in the Chapter on Medicine in the Vinaya Pi?akas Section 04: Buddhism and Society (Tue, Aug. 22nd, 9:00-15:30) Lai, Rongdao (University of Southern California): Becoming Bodhisattva Citizens: Buddhist Citizenship Discourse in Republican China Lu, Lianghao (University of Pittsburgh): Creating a Dharma Market: Advertisements in Buddhist Periodicals in Early 20th Century Shanghai Xing, Guang (University of Hong Kong): A Study of Qisong?s Xiaolun (Treatise on Filial Piety) Kobbun, Pisit (Ubon Ratchathani University): Buddhist Art and Politics: A Case Study of Paintings along the Mekong Kawanami, Hiroko (Lancaster University): M?pyar Gaing: a case study of a heterodox sect in modern Myanmar Chakravarti, Ranabir (Jawaharlal Nehru University): Negation of the Varna-Jati System: Gleanings from the Sardulakarnavadanam Lele, Amod (Boston University): Disengaged Buddhism: The rejection of activism in classical South Asia Haderer, Elisabeth (Universit?t Hamburg): Tibetan Buddhist Art Goes Global ? The Evolution of a New Western Buddhist Art Tradition in the 21st Century Richard, Fr?d?ric (Universit? de Lausanne): Buddhism and the ?secularized? Tibetan government in exile Section 05: Buddhist Art and Architecture (Wed., Aug. 23rd, 9:00-17:30) Bruneau, Laurianne (Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes): Archaeology of Ladakh: new data for the history of Buddhism in the Western Himalayas Pakhoutova, Elena (Rubin Museum of Art): Popular visual narratives in Buddhist practices within Nepalese and Tibetan traditions Seegers, Eva (Universit?t Hamburg): The Decoration and Iconographic Program of selected St?pas in Eastern Tibet after 1959 Anderl, Christoph (Ghent University): The Development of M?ra Iconography in China: Continuities and Transformations Bieberly, Rebecca (Oakland University): Naturalistic Style, Natural Gesture: A study of Lingyan Temple?s Song-era Luohan Sculptures Lin, Nancy (Vanderbilt University) Chou, Weng-shing (Hunter College): Recalling the Past Lives of a Qing Ruler: An Album of the Qianlong Emperor's Previous Incarnations Lin, Fan (Leiden University): Dimensions of Non-duality and Liminality: Visual Images of Vimalak?rti in Medieval China (500-1200) Nakamura, Yuuka (Mukogawa Women's University): The Spatial Composition of Buddhist Temples in Central Asia, Part 2: The Transformation of Shrines Tuzzeo, Daniel (Stanford University): To Steal the Sun and Moon: Notes on Cosmological Representation and Relationships Between Word and Image at Mogao Hirama, Naoko (Taisho University): How to Make a Saint: Biographical Picture Scrolls in the Construction of H?nen?s Identity Matsunami, Fuki (The Jodo Shu Research Institute): Arts of Japanese pure land Buddhism: The value of H?nen Sh?nin Gy?j?ezu Saradum, Natpiya (Dhammachai International Research Institute): The Earliest Style of Buddhist St?pas in Thailand: A Study of the Evolution of the Buddhist St?pas of the Dv?ravat? Period (Fri., Aug. 25th, 9:00-10:30) Karetzky, Patricia (Bard College): The Bronze Buddhist Sculptures of Nagapattinam Li, Charles (University of Cambridge): The Mystery of the Monkey's Head: Architecture, Grief, and the Lexicographer's Imaginary Schmidt, Carolyn (The Ohio State University): The Tri??la or Nandy?varta Motif in South Asian Buddhist Art and Culture: New Insights into the History of its Origins, Transmission, Values and Names Section 06: Buddhist Hermeneutics, Scholasticism, and Commentarial Techniques (Thurs., Aug. 24th, 9:00-12:30) Mathes, Klaus-Dieter (University of Vienna): Karma bKa? brgyud gZhan stong (?Empti[ness] of Other?) in the Works of the Third, Seventh and Eighth Karma pa Brambilla, Filippo (University of Vienna): The path of preparation in the Jo nang tradition. Tshogs gnyis rgya mtsho on the views of Nya dbon kun dga? dpal and T? ra n? tha. Draszczyk, Martina (University of Vienna): A Glimpse into Mi bskyod rdo rje?s "Commentary on the Direct Introduction to the Three K?yas" Higgins, David (University of Vienna): Rong zom pa and Mi bskyod rdo rje on the Unity of the Two Truths from a Nonfoundationalist (Aprati??h?na) Madhyamaka Standpoint Gentry, James (Kathmandu University): Historiographical Skepticism in Seventeenth-Century Tibet: Sog bzlog pa Blo gros rgyal mtshan?s Text-critical Biography of Master Padmasambhava Kantor, Hans (Huafan University): ?Root and Traces? (benji??) in the exegetical traditions of Chinese Madhyamaka Thought (Fri., Aug. 25th, 9:00-15:30) Keerthi Goigoda Gamage, Aruna (University of London): Is Nibb?na Different from Arahantship? A Study of the Doctrinal Controversy between Mah?vih?rins and Vita??av?dins Reflected in the P?li Commentaries Kramer, Jowita (University of Munich): Sthiramati as a Commentator of Mah?y?na S?tras: A Comparative Investigation of the Ak?ayamatinirde?a??k? and the K??yapaparivarta??k? Ueno, Makio (Otani University): Word by Word: Commentarial Techniques in Vasubandhu's Vy?khy?yukti Blum, Mark (University of California, Berkeley): The Formation of Nianfo in Chinese Buddhism Shi, Guo Cheen (The Compassion Network & Buddhist Center): A Response and Recommendations?Translating Chengguan's Commentaries to the Avata?saka Sutra Lee, Sangyop (Stanford University): Lushan Huiyuan and the Soteriology of the Soul in Early Chinese Buddhism Apple, James (University of Calgary): Ati?a and Ratn?kara??nti as Philosophical Opponents with attention to Yukti?a??ik?, verse 34. Kawamura, Y?to (Kyoto University): A Fresh Approach to A???dhy?y? 2.4.4: adhvaryukratur anapu?sakam Presented by the Buddhist Grammarian ?ara?adeva. Beckwith, Christopher I. (Indiana University): How did the Chinese actually first hear and transcribe Buddhist terms? The two kinds of Late Old Chinese transcriptions and their significance Section 07: Buddhist Literature (Mon., Aug. 21st, 9:00-15:30) Wu, Hongyu (Ohio Northern University): Sword and Lotus: The Buddhist Life of a Woman Warrior in the Late Ming Dynasty (1368-1644) Stepien, Rafal (University of Oxford): Chinese Buddhist Literature, Literary Theory, and Philosophy of Language: A Study of Liu Xie & Chan Ponampon, Phra Kiattisak (SOAS, University of London): Yi xin guan qi: Visualization Meditation in Early Chinese Buddhist Texts during the 5th Century Yagi, Toru (Osaka Gakuin University): A note on the Saundarananda 3.32d Byrne, Christopher (Queen's University): Re-Thinking ?K?an? Literature as Poetry: Songgu Composition during the Song Dynasty Tzohar, Roy (Tel Aviv University): In the eye of the beholder: Ways of Seeing in A?vagho?a's Buddhacarita? Daribazaron, Darima (Buryat State University): Buryat annotations on Lamrim Mochizuki, Kaie (Minobusan University): A Commentary on the Lotus sutra translated from Chinese into Tibetan Sirisawad, Natchapol (Ludwig-Maximilians-Universit?t): Comparative Studies of the Quotations in ?amathadeva's Abhidharmako?op?yik?-??k? Parallel to the Mah?pr?tih?ryas?tra in the Tibetan translation of the M?lasarv?stiv?da-vinaya and the Pr?tih?ryas?tra in the Divy?vad?na Section 08: Buddhist Places (Mon., Aug. 21st, 9:00-12:30) Coura, Gabriele (TU Dresden and University of Vienna): A Buddhist Place of Education: dPal spungs Monastery from the 18th to the Early 20th Century Namgyal, Tsetan (Jawaharlal Nehru University): Lineage and linkages of Buddhism in Indian Trans-Himalaya region?A case study of affiliation between Stag na Lho Druk Monastery of Ladakh and Bhutan?s Drup pa tradition Wiles, Royce (Nan Tien Institute) Ditrich, Tamara (University of Sydney) Clark, Chris (University of Sydney): Research on the Kuthodaw Pagoda marble-stelae recension of the P?li canon in Mandalay, Myanmar Ouyang, Nan (The University of Arizona): To Localize a Bodhisattva in Late Imperial China: K?itigarbha, Moutain Jiuhua and Their Associations in Precious Scrolls (baojuan ??) Wenzel, Claudia (Heidelberger Akademie der Wissenschaften): Buddhist Places Evoking Praj??p?ramit?: Chinese Stone Sutra Inscriptions of the Northern Qi in Shandong Winfield, Pamela (Elon University): Building Materials and Bodhi Mind at Eiheiji Temple, Japan Section 09: Contemporary Buddhism (Fri., Aug. 25th, 9:00-12:30) Meister, Kelly (University of Chicago): Righteous and Nefarious Uses of Buddhist Power within a Material Nodal Network at Wat Phra Mah?th?tworamah?wih?n (Nakhon Si Thammarat, Thailand) Kawamoto, Kanae (Japan Society for the Promotion of Science): Love Incessantly Flows: Mae Naak, A New Asian Opera Heroine Born out of a Thai Buddhist Narrative Zoric, Snjezana (Hankuk University of Foreign Studies): Transformation of Ritual into the Theatrical Heritage Performance ? a Korean Case Clayton, Barbra (Mount Allison University): ?The Development of Bhutanese Buddhism: GNH, Nationalism, and Buddhist Modernism? Th?voz, Samuel (The Robert H. N. Ho Family Foundation Program in Buddhist Studies): The Making of a Modern Buddha: Global Buddhism and Theater Section 10: Early Buddhism (Mon., Aug. 21st, 14:00-17:30) Maes, Claire (University of Texas at Austin): Early Buddhists and their Jain Ascetic other, an Examination Kong, Man-Shik (King's College, London): The way which flavour of and quantity of food are dealt with in Early Buddhism Li, Channa (Leiden University): The Sixth Arhat and Multiple Buddhas: The Ambiguity of Arhatship and Buddhahood Found in the Early Buddhist Texts Levman, Bryan (University of Toronto): Language Theory, Phonology, and Etymology in Buddhism Gruszewska, Joanna (Jagiellonian University): Pu?n??s Verses (Ther?g?th? 236-251) in the light of Buddhist criticism of Brahmins in Early Buddhist Literature Polak, Grzegorz (Maria Curie-Sklodowska University): Can the ?end of the world? be reached by means of jh?na? A reexamination of the role and place of sa??? in early Buddhist jh?na meditation Section 11: Epistemology and Logic in Buddhism (Mon., Aug. 21st, 9:00-17:30) Hayashi, Itsuki (Columbia University): Rebirth versus Epiphenomenalism: Buddhist Theory of Ontological Dependence and Persistence Nowakowski, David (Union College): The Isomorphism of Time and Space in Buddhist Arguments for Momentariness Sakai, Masamichi (Kansai University): On the Time-Gap Problem in the Buddhist Theory of Momentariness Shida, Taisei (University of Tsukuba): The Non-Comparative Type of pratyabhij??[na] Referred to by ??likan?tha Siderits, Mark (Seoul National University): Buddhism Naturalized? Watson, Alex (Ashoka University): Does perception support or refute the Buddhist doctrine of momentariness? Forman, Jed (University of California, Santa Barbara): Pus, Blood, and Falling Hairs: Polemical Debates on Valid Perception Hugon, Pascale (Austrian Academy of Sciences): Are there any real universals in the epistemological works of Phya pa Chos kyi seng ge (1109?1169)? On the source of the moderate realist perspective on universals in the Tibetan tradition Kellner, Birgit (Austrian Academy of Sciences): How to read Dharmak?rti?s sa?vedana-inference Nishizawa, Fumihito (Otani University): On the Origin of Non-valid Cognitions (apram??a/tshad min gyi blo) Saccone, Margherita Serena (IKGA, Austrian Academy of Sciences): Of Authoritativeness and Perception, the Sarvaj?asiddhik?rik? by ?ubhagupta (Tue, Aug. 22nd, 9:00-12:30) Stoltz, Jonathan (University of St. Thomas): The Scope and Unity of ?Mistaken Cognition? in the Epistemology of Phya pa Chos kyi seng ge Zamorski, Jakub (Jagiellonian University): What Remained of Pram??a Theory in China? ?Direct perception? and ?Inference? in the Works of Early Modern Chinese Buddhists Lo, King Chung (University of Leipzig): Pr?sa?gika M?dhyamika?s Refutation of Self-awareness Vose, Kevin (College of William and Mary): When Did Svatantra Gain its Autonomy? An Investigation into the Indian Sources of a Tibetan Claim Westerhoff, Jan (University of Oxford): Madhyamaka and philosophy of language (Fri., Aug. 25th, 14:00-15:30) Matsuoka, Hiroko (Universit?t Leipzig): Vin?tadeva, Dharmottara, Kamala??la and Yam?ri on the Initial Statement (?div?kya) of a ??stra MacKenzie, Matthew (Colorado State University): Dual-Aspect Reflexivism in ??ntarak?ita?s Philosophy of Mind Prets, Ernst (Austrian Academy of Sciences): ??ntarak?ita and the Naiy?yikas. On the references to ?fragments? of the so-called ?lost Naiy?yikas? in the V?dany?ya??k? and the Tattvasa?graha. Section 12: Information Technologies in Buddhist Studies (Mon., Aug. 21st, 14:00-17:30) Hackett, Paul (Columbia University): Experiments with E-text: On the Oral Commentary Embedded in the Tibetan Canon Lugli, Ligeia (Mangalam Research Center/King's College London/UC Berkeley): Corpus methods for Buddhist Sanskrit lexicography McCrabb, Ian (University of Sydney): Visualization and Pattern Analysis of Formulae in Gandh?ran Relic Inscriptions Nagasaki, Kiyonori (International Institute for Digital Humanities): Possibilities of SAT Taish?z? Image DB through IIIF Section 13: Mah?y?na Buddhism (Tue, Aug. 22nd, 14:00-17:30) Ahn, Sungdoo (Seoul National University): Param?rtha?s Concept of *Amalavij??na and Tath?gatagarbha Saito, Akira (International College for Postgraduate Buddhist Studies): Buddha-Nature or Buddha Within?: Revisiting the Meaning of tath?gata-garbha Nelson, Barbara (Australian National University): K??ntip?ramit? in the works of ??ntideva Kosaka, Arihiro (University of Tsukuba): The Reading of ?ubh??ubhavipary?s?? in the twenty-third Chapter of the M?lamadhyamakak?rik? with a Special Focus on Candrak?rti?s Interpretation MacDonald, Anne (Austrian Academy of Sciences): Homing in on Candrak?rti: The Sanskrit Madhyamak?vat?rabh??ya Kanno, Hiroshi (Soka University): Jizang?s View of the Nirv??a S?tra: Focusing on the Niepan jing youyi (Wed., Aug. 23rd, 9:00-12:30) Buckelew, Kevin (Columbia University): How Chan Masters Became ?Great Men?: Masculinity and the Aesthetics of Heroism in Middle-Period Chinese Buddhism Jones, Charles (The Catholic University of America): What is the Chinese Pure Land Tradition? Yasui, Mitsuhiro (Taisho University, Research Institute of Chisan Shingon): Some remarks on the Akutobhay? and the Zhong lun Denis, Diane (Laval University): Looking for the notion of trilak?ana in the Dharmadharmat?vibh?ga and k?rik? Nemoto, Hiroshi (Hiroshima University): Tsong kha pa on Dependent Origination and Emptiness Shi (Lee), Fazhao (Hsu-Feng) (Sydney University): The Tibetan udd?na in the ?ar?r?rthag?th? Section 14: Mah?y?na S?tras (Wed., Aug. 23rd, 16:00-17:30) Jin, Tao (Illinois Wesleyan University): The Role of the Fa-yi Structure in the Organization of Qixinlun Xiao, Yue (The Research Institute of Bukkyo University): The vows of Amit?bha in the Larger Sukh?vat?vy?ha and the Karu??pu??ar?ka Yamabe, Nobuyoshi (Waseda University): The Nine Similes of Tath?gatagarbha in Tath?gatagarbha-s?tra and the Six Similes of Buddh?nusm?ti in Guanfo sanmei hai jing (Thurs., Aug. 24th, 9:00-12:30) Boucher, Daniel (Cornell University): Are Mah?y?na S?tras Forgeries? Drewes, David (University of Manitoba): How Mahayanists Became Bodhisattvas Zhao, Wen (Ludwig-Maximilians-Universit?t): The composition of the Sad?prarudita story in the A??as?hasrik? Praj??p?ramit? based on the Pratyutpanna Sa?mukh?vasthita Sam?dhi S?tra: the basic structure and the metaphors Nishi, Yasutomo (Chuo Academic Research Institute): Research on kr???panaka- / kr??anaka in the Saddharmapu??ar?ka Barber, A.W. (University of Calgary): ??nyat?-vik?ipta in Tath?gatagarbha S?tra Literature Bogacz, Szymon (Jagiellonian University): The Relation Between the Conventional and the Ultimate in Early Mah?y?na Sutras and in N?g?rjuna?s Madhyamaka Section 15: Manuscripts, Codicology, and Epigraphy (Tue, Aug. 22nd, 14:00-17:30) Long, Darui (University of the West): A Study on the Colophons of Donors of Rock-Cut Buddhist Scriptures in Fangshan in the Ming Dynasty (1368-1644) Miyazaki, Tensho (Otani University): Relations among Old Japanese Manuscripts of Buddhist Scriptures and Woodblock-Printed Buddhist Canons: With Reference to the Puchao Sanmei Jing ????? Nam, Dongsin (Seoul National University): The Sound of Great Enlightenment: the Divine Bell of King Seongdeok of Silla and its Inscription Chen, Ruixuan (Leiden University): The Cult of the Sixteen Arhats: New Studies on the Nandimitr?vad?na Kirichenko, Alexey (Moscow State University): The Role of Medium in History-Writing and the Construction of Identity of the Hnget-pit-taung Monastery, Burma Acri, Andrea (EPHE): The cult of Hevajra in Southeast Asia, 10th-13th century (Wed., Aug. 23rd, 14:00-17:30) Delhey, Martin (Universit?t Hamburg): The ?Vanaratna Codex?: A Unique Witness of Indian, Nepalese and Tibetan Buddhism Hori, Shin?ichiro (International College for Postgraduate Buddhist Studies): Buddhism in 15th-Century Eastern India: Sanskrit Manuscript Evidence and Tibetan Sources Ogihara, Hirotoshi (The Hakubi Center for Advanced Research, Kyoto University): Names of thousand Buddhas in the Khotanese Bhadrakalpikas?tra?In comparison with Kuchean captions in Kumtura grottoes? Lee, Youngjin (Geumgang Center for Buddhist Studies): The Oldest Nepalese Manuscript of the Da?abh?mikas?tram?focusing on its interpolations Milligan, Matthew (Georgia College & State University): Text and Epigraph, King and Monk: Comparing and Contrasting Patronage in Early Indian Buddhism Walter, Mariko (ACANSRS): Greek Buddhists revisited: Early religious contacts in Greco-Bactria and Indo-Greek Kingdoms according to donor inscriptions Section 16: Tantric Buddhism (Wed., Aug. 23rd, 9:00-15:30) Deroche, Marc-Henri (Kyoto University): The Aspiration of S?tra-s and Tantra-s by Praj??ra?mi (Tibet, 1518-1584): A Living Illustration of the Link between Theory and Praxis Bentor, Yael (The Hebrew University of Jerusalem): Awakening in the Present Body Wenta, Aleksandra (Oxford University): The Making of Tantric Orthodoxy in the Eleventh Century Indo-Tibetan World: J??n?kara?s Mantr?vat?ra Nagasawa, Jake (University of California, Santa Barbara): A Kadampa?s Defense of the Guhyagarbha Tantra: On Chomden Rigp? Reldri?s (Bcom ldan rig pa?i ral gri) An Ornamental Flower for the Proof of the Guhyagarbha (Gsang snying sgrub pa rgyan gyi me tog) Hammar, Urban (Stockholm university): Chag lo tsa ba III Rin chen rnam rgyal (15th century) on the History of Kalacakra in Tibet. Payne, Richard (Institute of Buddhist Studies, Berkeley): Tendai Homa: Ritual Change and Ritual Invariance Kotyk, Jeffrey (Leiden University): Sources of Japanese Buddhist Astrology Section 17: Therav?da Buddhism (Wed., Aug. 23rd, 14:00-15:30) Stewart, James (University of Tasmania): Revenge Literature in Contemporary Sinhala Buddhism Revire, Nicolas (Thammasat University): ?In Times Yet to Come?: The Cult of the Five Buddhas and Ten Bodhisattas in mainland Southeast Asia Scott, Tony (University of Toronto): Politics and Buddhist Commentary in Post/Colonial Burma/Myanmar: The Modern Milindapa?ha-a??hakath? Section 18: Vinaya Studies (Fri., Aug. 25th, 14:00-17:30) Dewey, William (University of California, Santa Barbara): The Tibetan Ganden Tripas and the Vinaya Johnson, Anna (University of Michigan): Highland, Lowland, and Kashmiri: Historical Narrative and Identity Formation of Tibet?s Three Vinaya Lineages Hu-von Hin?ber, Haiyan (Albert-Ludwig Universit?t Freiburg): What to do if the Vih??ra?sv??min is put in jail? A story from the K?udrakavastu of the M?lasarv?stiv?da-Vinaya Wu, Juan (Tsinghua University): Parallel Stories in the Jaina ?va?yakac?r?i and the Buddhist M?lasarv?stiv?da Vinaya: A Preliminary Investigation EVENING EVENTS Roundtables American Council of Learned Societies/The Robert H. N. Ho Family Foundation Centre for Buddhist Studies at the University of Toronto (Mon., Aug. 21st, 17:30-19:00) Hosted by Pauline Yu (President, ACLS American Council of Learned Societies) and Frances Garrett (Chair, The Robert H. N. Ho Family Foundation Centre for Buddhist Studies, University of Toronto) Introducing the Fo Guang Buddhist Art Encyclopedia (Tue, Aug. 22nd, 18:00-19:00) Humanistic Buddhism in the Contemporary Age: Fo Guang Shan ??? at 50 (Tue, Aug. 22nd, 19:00-20:00) Moderator: Jane Naomi Iwamura (University of the West) Bukky? Dend? Ky?kai Fellowship Panel (Wed, Aug. 23rd, 18:00-19:00) Publishers Panel (Tue, Aug. 22nd, 18:00-19:00) Moderator: Nikko Odiseos (President, Shambala Publications) Buddhist Studies in Canada (Wed, Aug. 23rd, 18:00-20:00) Organiser: Paul Crowe (Simon Fraser University; Editor In Chief, Canadian Journal of Buddhist Studies) Workshop Buddhist Universal Digital Archive (Tue, Aug. 22nd, 18:00-20:00) Moderator: Jeff Wallman (Executive Director, Tibetan Buddhist Resource Center) Excursions: To ensure you have a chance to visit Toronto and surrounding area, my team and I are preparing several excursions for you to enjoy on the afternoon of Thursday, August 24th. We are predicting to include: ? Trip to Niagara Falls ? Cruise on Lake Ontario ? Behind the Scenes Tour of the Royal Ontario Museum ? Bicycle Tour on Toronto Islands ? Visit to the Fo Guang Shan Temple Mississauga A confirmation of these options, details, including prices, booking options and schedule, will be made available on the Congress website in the coming weeks, along with information about other events happening in and around Toronto during the Congress, so please check regularly. Website and Communications My team and I will be continuously updating the Congress website with panel, paper, and evening event abstracts, announcements, travel information, and excursion options over the next few weeks and months, so please make sure to follow the website closely at: http://www.iabs2017-uoft.ca. Thank You I wish to extend my gratitude to everyone for all their help in preparing for the XVIIIth IABS Congress. I am particularly grateful to our sponsors, The Robert H. N. 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URL: From tyler.g.neill at gmail.com Fri May 12 11:21:31 2017 From: tyler.g.neill at gmail.com (Tyler Neill) Date: Fri, 12 May 17 13:21:31 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] alternative solution for directly accessing Unicode diacritics on Mac Message-ID: Dear all, in addition to Prof. Deshpande's solution with Ukelele, I'd like to suggest one more ready-made option for easily and directly accessing Unicode combining diacritics on Mac (as opposed to correctly displaying the results with custom fonts), which will hopefully be of general interest: the IPA Unicode keyboard layout. As a strange example: t?? (t with under-circle and macron) Produced by typing with the "IPA Unicode" layout: t @2 (adds the under-circle) ('COMBINING RING BELOW' (U+0325)) &% (adds the macron) ('COMBINING MACRON' (U+0304)) Thus also, quickly and easily: r?? l??. These are the useful combinations for Classical Sanskrit (i.e., what a pre-installed layout like "US/ABC Extended" cannot do), but the possibilities are almost endless (for which, use either the documentation PDF provided on the download page or else the Mac "Keyboard Viewer"). I don't yet know whether this is any sort of a solution for Vedic accents etc. but I would be very curious to hear from those who try. Hope this helps! Best wishes, Tyler Madhav Deshpande mmdesh at umich.edu > Thu May 11 12:02:11 EDT 2017 > Previous message (by thread): [INDOLOGY] Font? > Next message (by thread): [INDOLOGY] Font? > Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] > Hello Friends, > I have now added R?, L? and ? (besides r?, r??, l?, and ?) to my > MMDUnicode.keylayout for Mac. I have attached the changed version. Have > not been able to add long versions of R? and L?, but they don't occur in > the initial position anyway, and so that should not be an issue. Try it > out and see if it works for you. > Madhav -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Fri May 12 12:03:44 2017 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Fri, 12 May 17 08:03:44 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] alternative solution for directly accessing Unicode diacritics on Mac In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello Tyler, This is a great suggestion, especially for constructing unusual combinations, which one often needs while working with P??ini's grammar. The other thing I want to mention is that I have been interested in creating stacked diacritics for marking length, nasality and accent on the same vowel. I can produce these with Mac's ABC Extended Keyboard. However, very few fonts can show these properly. So far, Helvetica is one font that can show most of the stacks properly, but interestingly, even this font cannot show stack of three markings on top of "l?". Fortunately one does not need this very often, but some P??inian rules may need it. Madhav Deshpande On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 7:21 AM, Tyler Neill via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear all, > > in addition to Prof. Deshpande's solution with Ukelele, I'd like to > suggest one more ready-made option for easily and directly accessing > Unicode combining diacritics on Mac (as opposed to correctly displaying the > results with custom fonts), which will hopefully be of general interest: > the IPA Unicode > keyboard > layout. > > As a strange example: > > t?? (t with under-circle and macron) > > Produced by typing with the "IPA Unicode" layout: > > t > @2 (adds the under-circle) ('COMBINING RING BELOW' (U+0325)) > &% (adds the macron) ('COMBINING MACRON' (U+0304)) > > Thus also, quickly and easily: r?? l??. > > These are the useful combinations for Classical Sanskrit (i.e., what a > pre-installed layout like "US/ABC Extended" cannot do), but the > possibilities are almost endless (for which, use either the documentation > PDF provided on the download page or else the Mac "Keyboard Viewer"). I > don't yet know whether this is any sort of a solution for Vedic accents > etc. but I would be very curious to hear from those who try. > > Hope this helps! > > Best wishes, > Tyler > > > Madhav Deshpande mmdesh at umich.edu >> Thu May 11 12:02:11 EDT 2017 >> Previous message (by thread): [INDOLOGY] Font? >> Next message (by thread): [INDOLOGY] Font? >> Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] >> Hello Friends, >> I have now added R?, L? and ? (besides r?, r??, l?, and ?) to my >> MMDUnicode.keylayout for Mac. I have attached the changed version. Have >> not been able to add long versions of R? and L?, but they don't occur in >> the initial position anyway, and so that should not be an issue. Try it >> out and see if it works for you. >> Madhav > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From buescherhartmut at gmail.com Fri May 12 15:28:25 2017 From: buescherhartmut at gmail.com (Hartmut Buescher) Date: Fri, 12 May 17 17:28:25 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] pre-lined mss. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Peter Szanto, to shortly respond, though as a part-time codicological practician rather fascinated by the ?anthropological? nature of manuscripts ? given (unlike any animal could), how mirror-like they embody the physical, semiotic and semantic dimensions of *homo sapiens* with regard to the concern of transmitting cultural intelligence. After all, those Mah?y?na Buddhist manuscripts produced at P?la times you referred to do indeed likewise preserve semantic dimensions, with regard to which, when attempting a philosophical dialogue with them, historico-philological research alone may easily get into difficulties, be these admitted or not, to hermeneutically rise to an appropriate level of understanding. Considering your issue of whether the tangible increase of ?pre-lined mss.? >starts in the P?la realm a little before 1000 CE and continues steadily up >to the very end, whereas in Nepal it seems to begin only in the early 12th c. : Without having immediate implications for the total variety of Indian manuscript production in that period, this corresponds at least to what we would expect with regard to this particular type of Mah?y?na manuscripts (with the textual fields demarcated by vertical lines, especially, not exclusively, at the edges and string holes, often along with illuminations and other forms of ornamentation). And with the well-known breakdown of the P?la-evolved underlying networks and organizational structures in support of specialized workshops for highly skilled manuscript production, a greater influx of professional specialists carrying these skills into Nepal may be assumed around that time. Including its bibliography, the recent publication in the series ?Wiener Studien zur Tibetologie und Buddhismuskunde? by Karen Weissenborn: ?Buchkunst aus N?land?. Die A??as?hasrik? Praj??p?ramit?-Handschrift in der Royal Asiatic Society / London (Ms. Hodgson 1) und ihre Stellung in der P?la-Buchmalerei des 11./12. Jahrhunderts?. Wien 2012 (WSTB No. 77) (https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/cgi-bin/wstb/wstb.cgi?ID= 81&show_description=1) may at least contextually contribute to provide you with relevant insights, even while this period of manuscript production is being addressed from a specific perspective. Best wishes, Hartmut Buescher . On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Walter Slaje via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > I am aware of Georg B?hler's > "?ber Lineale oder "Faulenzer" zur Herstellung von Manuskripten des > westlichen und n?rdlichen Indien". In: Anzeiger der kaiserl. Akademie der > Wissenschaften zu Wien, Philos.-hist. Cl. 34, 8 (1897), pp. 48-52. > > Kind regards, > WS > > ----------------------------- > Prof. Dr. Walter Slaje > Hermann-L?ns-Str. 1 > D-99425 Weimar > Deutschland > > Ego ex animi mei sententia spondeo ac polliceor > studia humanitatis impigro labore culturum et provecturum > non sordidi lucri causa nec ad vanam captandam gloriam, > sed quo magis veritas propagetur et lux eius, qua salus > humani generis continetur, clarius effulgeat. > Vindobonae, die XXI. mensis Novembris MCMLXXXIII. > > 2017-05-12 11:35 GMT+02:00 P?ter-D?niel Sz?nt? via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info>: > >> Dear colleagues, >> >> I would like to try out an idea, especially since we have some black-belt >> codicologists here. >> >> I noticed that in the mediaeval East Indian ms. corpus, we have a larger >> amount of pre-lined mss. among those dated to P?la regnal years than the >> ones dated in the Nepalese style. >> >> Perhaps I should explain: by pre-lined I mean primarily two double lines >> separating the margins and the string space(/s) on each side. Secondarily, >> the guideline for the s?tra to help maintain lines parallel to the edges. >> Something like this: >> >> >> ? >> My survey is not at all exhaustive, and, as I said before, this practice >> is not unheard of in Nepal. However, it starts in the P?la realm a little >> before 1000 CE and continues steadily up to the very end, whereas in Nepal >> it seems to begin only in the early 12th c. My hypothesis for the time >> being is that the Nepalese were emulating this habit. Also note that the >> script in these cases is usually what is referred to as 'ra?jan?' or >> simplified versions thereof. Ok, this last point sounds muddled, but I >> think that the palaeography for this corpus is pretty weak. >> >> Any comments would be greatly appreciated, especially if you can point me >> to some secondary literature on the subject. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Peter Szant2 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks in advance for your help, Deepak Dr. Deepak Sarma Professor of Religious Studies Professor of Bioethics (secondary appointment) School of Medicine, Case Western Reserve University Curatorial Consultant, Department of Asian Art Cleveland Museum of Art Mailing Address: Department of Religious Studies Tomlinson Hall 2121 MLK Jr. Drive Case Western Reserve University Cleveland, OH 44106-7112 office: 216-368-4790 deepak.sarma at case.edu deepaksarma.com From dnreigle at gmail.com Fri May 12 18:40:47 2017 From: dnreigle at gmail.com (David and Nancy Reigle) Date: Fri, 12 May 17 12:40:47 -0600 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Tri=CC=A3sa=CC=A3st=CC=A3is=CC=81ala=CC=84ka=CC=84purus=CC=A3acarita._Helen_M_Johnson_tr._Gaekwad's_oriental_series?= In-Reply-To: <67FD533A-EC75-408E-B02E-30CA7F29D0B9@case.edu> Message-ID: Dear Deepak, Yes, they are available at the Digital Library of India, or its mirror at Archive.org. Best regards, David Reigle Colorado, U.S.A. On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Deepak Sarma via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > All: > Are their electronic copies of > > Hemacandra?s Tr?s?s?i?al?k?puru?acarita. Helen M Johnson tr. Gaekwad's > oriental series > > available? > > Thanks in advance for your help, > > Deepak > > > Dr. Deepak Sarma > > Professor of Religious Studies > > Professor of Bioethics (secondary appointment) > School of Medicine, Case Western Reserve University > > > Curatorial Consultant, Department of Asian Art > Cleveland Museum of Art > > Mailing Address: > Department of Religious Studies > Tomlinson Hall > 2121 MLK Jr. Drive > Case Western Reserve University > Cleveland, OH 44106-7112 > > office: 216-368-4790 > deepak.sarma at case.edu > > deepaksarma.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alanus1216 at yahoo.com Fri May 12 18:50:58 2017 From: alanus1216 at yahoo.com (Allen Thrasher) Date: Fri, 12 May 17 18:50:58 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] donation of silver flutes to Krishna? In-Reply-To: <38572067.8272662.1494615058992.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <38572067.8272662.1494615058992@mail.yahoo.com> I am trying to get a collection of old and new Indian flutes and whistles in order preparatory to donating them to the Dayton Miller Collection of flutes at the Library of Congress. ?Among them are several small silver flutes (transverse flutes, not fipple flutes, whistles). ?I can get some sort of sound out of the largest with considerable effort, but the smaller ones seem too small even for a small child to play. ?It occurs to me that they may have been made to be held by statues of Krishna and have gotten separated from their statues. On the other hand, could they have been votive offerings to a shrine, not intended either to be played or to be held by a statue? ?I would appreciate hearing if there is such a custom in the vrata literature, or other literature or people's personal experiences. ? Thanks, Allen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dnreigle at gmail.com Fri May 12 20:43:01 2017 From: dnreigle at gmail.com (David and Nancy Reigle) Date: Fri, 12 May 17 14:43:01 -0600 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Tri=CC=A3sa=CC=A3st=CC=A3is=CC=81ala=CC=84ka=CC=84purus=CC=A3acarita._Helen_M_Johnson_tr._Gaekwad's_oriental_series?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: A hard copy of Helen Johnson?s translation of the Tri?a??i?al?k?puru?acaritra is available in an edited reprint under the title, *The Jain Saga: Brief History of Jainism* (Ahmedabad: Acharyadev Shrimad Vijay Ramchandra Suriswarji Jain Pathashala, [2009]). All six volumes of the original translation are here included in three compact volumes, two in each. Helen Johnson?s translation was here slightly edited by Muni Samvegayashvijay Maharaj, who highly praised it in his preface. Diacritics were omitted in this re-typeset reprint. This reprint is also said to be available in soft copy at the publisher?s website: www.jaine.org/jainsaga. However, this address does not work, at least from my computer. The hard copy is at present available from a seller in India through Amazon for $45.00: https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/8190815709/ref=nosim/addallcom-20. It is also available from Biblia Impex in India: http://bibliaimpex.com/index.php?p=sr&Uc=44728&l=0&isbn=9788190815703&title=The%20Jain%20Saga:%20brief%20History%20of%20Jainism%20(Trisastishalaka%20PurushCharitra),%20stories%20of%2063%20illustrious%20persons%20of%20the%20Jain%20world,%20of%20Hemchandrasuriswarji%20Maharaj,%20tr.%20into%20English%20by....%20(Set)%20- . Best regards, David Reigle Colorado, U.S.A. On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 12:40 PM, David and Nancy Reigle wrote: > Dear Deepak, > > Yes, they are available at the Digital Library of India, or its mirror at > Archive.org. > > Best regards, > > David Reigle > Colorado, U.S.A. > > On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Deepak Sarma via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> All: >> Are their electronic copies of >> >> Hemacandra?s Tr?s?s?i?al?k?puru?acarita. Helen M Johnson tr. Gaekwad's >> oriental series >> >> available? >> >> Thanks in advance for your help, >> >> Deepak >> >> >> Dr. Deepak Sarma >> >> Professor of Religious Studies >> >> Professor of Bioethics (secondary appointment) >> School of Medicine, Case Western Reserve University >> >> >> Curatorial Consultant, Department of Asian Art >> Cleveland Museum of Art >> >> Mailing Address: >> Department of Religious Studies >> Tomlinson Hall >> 2121 MLK Jr. Drive >> Case Western Reserve University >> Cleveland, OH 44106-7112 >> >> office: 216-368-4790 >> deepak.sarma at case.edu >> >> deepaksarma.com >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 12 May 2017 at 00:45, Roelf Barkhuis via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear Indologists, > > eJIM (eJournal of Indian Medicine) has just published a new issue at > http://www.indianmedicine.nl. > > Table of Contents: > > The Medical Profession in Ancient India: Its Social, Religious, and Legal > Status > Patrick Olivelle > > Patience and Patients: Jain Rules for Tending the Sick > Phyliss Granoff > > Yours sincerely, > > Roelf Barkhuis > Publisher of eJIM > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wujastyk at gmail.com Sun May 14 00:42:53 2017 From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Sat, 13 May 17 18:42:53 -0600 Subject: [INDOLOGY] pre-lined mss. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear P?ter-D?niel, I'm not sure what your question is. However, this whole issue about book production is under-explored and very interesting, so it's a great topic to raise. If you're talking about paper MSS, one point I could mention: you refer to horizontal lining. Do you mean written lines, or indentations in the paper? I have seen - and you have too, I expect - wooden boards that are shaped the same a s a paper folio, with holes left and right for stretching six to ten lines of string horizontally. The paper of a leaf was pressed to this string-board (rajjuphalaka*? s?traphalaka*?) and the impression of strings formed the guide-lines for scribes. So one finds paper manuscripts with these faint concertina-like indentations on them, that were evidently made with such a tool. In European codicology, a manuscript atelier in a monastery would have a wheel with pins sticking out of the rim, like extended spokes. What LW Jones called "a sharp awl" (p. 392) It was run down each side of the manuscript leaf, forming an eye-line between the pinpricks, so the scribes could write in straight lines. These so-called manuscript prickings have been used by codicologists to identify particular pricking-awls, and therefore to identify the monastery in which a particular codex was written. I've often wondered whether the Indian string-boards could offer a similar guide, but I think probably not. The reasons are that there are too many of these boards. One often finds them kicking around with a pile of manuscripts. I think scribes probably made them quite frequently, for ad hoc use. Secondly, Indian codicology is still in its infancy, and since most Indian manuscript catalogues omit any serious physical description, one would have to study original collections on a wide scale to get any kind of grip on this feature. Best, Dominik --- Jones, Leslie Webber. ?Pricking Manuscripts: The Instruments and Their Significance.? *Speculum*, vol. 21, no. 4, 1946, pp. 389?403., www.jstor.org/stable/2856761. ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Gaekwad's > oriental series > > available? > > Thanks in advance for your help, > > Deepak > > > Dr. Deepak Sarma > > Professor of Religious Studies > > Professor of Bioethics (secondary appointment) > School of Medicine, Case Western Reserve University > > > Curatorial Consultant, Department of Asian Art > Cleveland Museum of Art > > Mailing Address: > Department of Religious Studies > Tomlinson Hall > 2121 MLK Jr. Drive > Case Western Reserve University > Cleveland, OH 44106-7112 > > office: 216-368-4790 > deepak.sarma at case.edu > > deepaksarma.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ofer.peres at mail.huji.ac.il Sun May 14 05:52:15 2017 From: ofer.peres at mail.huji.ac.il (Ofer Peres) Date: Sun, 14 May 17 08:52:15 +0300 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_The_Vedic_"S=C4=81dhyas"?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Many thanks to Jan Houben for the valuable references and PDFs. Best wishes, Ofer Peres. On 11 May 2017 at 00:15, Jan E.M. Houben wrote: > An important appendix in > Kuiper, F.B.J. 1979. Varu?a and Vid??aka. On the Origin of Sanskrit Drama. > Amsterdam: North-Holland Publ. Comp. > deals precisely with the Vedic "S?dhyas" (in a "structuralist" fashion). > > Another important study is: > Heesterman, J.C. 1996. ? Die S?dhyas und die Kult des Feuers ?. Studien > zur Indologie und Iranistik 20: 117-143. > > A study in the light of my theory of the virtual causality of ritual > (e.g. ? Formal Structure and Self-referential Loops in Vedic Ritual. ? In > : Ritual Dynamics and the Science of Ritual, I: Grammar and Morphology of > Ritual (sous la dir. de A. Michaels et A. Mishra) : 29-63. Wiesbaden : > Harrassowitz) > is found in: > ?Les perfectibles (s?dhy?) entre circularit? et causalit? du rituel > v?dique.? In: Aux Abords de la Clairi?re : ?tudes indiennes et compar?es en > l?honneur de Charles Malamoud, sous la dir. de D?Intino, Silvia et Caterina > Guenzi, Turnhout, Brepols : 11-43. 2012. > of which I will be happy to send you and anyone interested an offprint > offlist. > Jan Houben > > > > > > > *Jan E.M. HOUBEN* > > Directeur d??tudes > > Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite > > Professor of South Asian History and Philology > > *?cole Pratique des Hautes ?tudes* > > *Sciences historiques et philologiques * > > 54, rue Saint-Jacques > > CS 20525 ? 75005 Paris > > johannes.houben at ephe.sorbonne.fr > > https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben > > www.ephe.fr > > > On 10 May 2017 at 20:01, Ofer Peres via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Dear list members, >> >> I would be very grateful for any reference to secondary literature on the >> Vedic "S?dhyas." >> >> Many thanks, >> >> Ofer Peres. >> The Hebrew University of Jerusalem. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rolfheiner.koch at gmail.com Sun May 14 10:13:54 2017 From: rolfheiner.koch at gmail.com (Rolf Heinrich Koch) Date: Sun, 14 May 17 12:13:54 +0200 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Tri=CC=A3sa=CC=A3st=CC=A3is=CC=81ala=CC=84ka=CC=84purus=CC=A3acarita._Helen_M_Johnson_tr._Gaekwad's_oriental_series?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <82e5faaa-2012-3ac9-e7d3-5c49862c0730@gmail.com> Here you can download Johnson's translation http://www.jainlibrary.org/index1.php Heiner Am 12.05.2017 um 22:43 schrieb David and Nancy Reigle via INDOLOGY: > > A hard copy of Helen Johnson?s translation of the > Tri?a??i?al?k?puru?acaritra is available in an edited reprint under > the title, /The Jain Saga: Brief History of Jainism/ (Ahmedabad: > Acharyadev Shrimad Vijay Ramchandra Suriswarji Jain Pathashala, > [2009]). All six volumes of the original translation are here included > in three compact volumes, two in each. Helen Johnson?s translation was > here slightly edited by Muni Samvegayashvijay Maharaj, who highly > praised it in his preface. Diacritics were omitted in this re-typeset > reprint. This reprint is also said to be available in soft copy at the > publisher?s website: www.jaine.org/jainsaga > . However, this address does not work, > at least from my computer. > > The hard copy is at present available from a seller in India through > Amazon for $45.00: > https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/8190815709/ref=nosim/addallcom-20. > It is also available from Biblia Impex in India: > http://bibliaimpex.com/index.php?p=sr&Uc=44728&l=0&isbn=9788190815703&title=The%20Jain%20Saga:%20brief%20History%20of%20Jainism%20(Trisastishalaka%20PurushCharitra),%20stories%20of%2063%20illustrious%20persons%20of%20the%20Jain%20world,%20of%20Hemchandrasuriswarji%20Maharaj,%20tr.%20into%20English%20by....%20(Set)%20- > . > > > Best regards, > > > David Reigle > > Colorado, U.S.A. > > > On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 12:40 PM, David and Nancy Reigle > > wrote: > > Dear Deepak, > > Yes, they are available at the Digital Library of India, or its > mirror at Archive.org. > > Best regards, > > David Reigle > Colorado, U.S.A. > > On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Deepak Sarma via INDOLOGY > > > wrote: > > All: > Are their electronic copies of > > Hemacandra?s Tr?s?s?i?al?k?puru?acarita. Helen M Johnson tr. > Gaekwad's oriental series > > available? > > Thanks in advance for your help, > > Deepak > > > Dr. Deepak Sarma > > Professor of Religious Studies > > Professor of Bioethics (secondary appointment) > School of Medicine, Case Western Reserve University > > > Curatorial Consultant, Department of Asian Art > Cleveland Museum of Art > > Mailing Address: > Department of Religious Studies > Tomlinson Hall > 2121 MLK Jr. Drive > Case Western Reserve University > Cleveland, OH 44106-7112 > > office: 216-368-4790 > deepak.sarma at case.edu > > deepaksarma.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info > (messages to the > list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list > options or unsubscribe) > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -- www.rolfheinrichkoch.wordpress.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On one occasion, being insulted by the inhabitants of Bhotabhandra while he was engaged in religious austerities, he reduced them to ashes by fire from his mouth." Has anyone located these or other similar stories of Patanjali? Sincerely, M?ns Broo -- Dr. M?ns Broo Senior Lecturer of Comparative Religion Editor of Temenos, Nordic Journal of Comparative Religion ?bo Akademi University Fabriksgatan 2 FI-20500 ?bo, Finland phone: +358-2-2154398 fax: +358-2-2154902 mobile: +358-50-5695754 From wujastyk at gmail.com Sun May 14 20:52:17 2017 From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Sun, 14 May 17 14:52:17 -0600 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Patanjali in the Puranas? In-Reply-To: <20170514220436.503fbqd0mcw48g0k@webmail1.abo.fi> Message-ID: Have you ruled out Ramabhadra Diksita's *Patanjalicarita* ? ? -- Professor Dominik Wujastyk ?,? Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity ?,? Department of History and Classics ?,? University of Alberta, Canada ?.? South Asia at the U of A: ?sas.ualberta.ca? ?? On 14 May 2017 at 13:04, M?ns Broo via INDOLOGY wrote: > > Dear Colleagues, > > In the preface to his interpretation of the Yoga-sutra (1889), the > theosophist W.Q. Judge writes, > > "About Patanjali's life very little, if anything, can be said. In the > Rudra Jamala, the Vrihannandikes'wara and the Padma-Purana are some meager > statements, more or less legendary, relating to his birth. Ilavrita-Varsha > is said to have been his birthplace, his mother being Sati the wife of > Angiras. The tradition runs that upon his birth he made known things past, > present and future, showing the intellect and penetration of a sage while > yet an infant. He is said to have married one Lolupa, whom he found in the > hollow of a tree on the north of Sumeru, and thereafter to have lived to a > great age. On one occasion, being insulted by the inhabitants of > Bhotabhandra while he was engaged in religious austerities, he reduced them > to ashes by fire from his mouth." > > Has anyone located these or other similar stories of Patanjali? > > Sincerely, > M?ns Broo > > -- > Dr. M?ns Broo > Senior Lecturer of Comparative Religion > Editor of Temenos, Nordic Journal of Comparative Religion > ?bo Akademi University > Fabriksgatan 2 > FI-20500 ?bo, Finland > phone: +358-2-2154398 > fax: +358-2-2154902 > mobile: +358-50-5695754 > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dnreigle at gmail.com Sun May 14 22:29:11 2017 From: dnreigle at gmail.com (David and Nancy Reigle) Date: Sun, 14 May 17 16:29:11 -0600 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Patanjali in the Puranas? In-Reply-To: <20170514220436.503fbqd0mcw48g0k@webmail1.abo.fi> Message-ID: Dear M?ns, The paragraph originally comes from a book by Rev. William Ward, *A View of the History, Literature, and Mythology, of the Hindoos*, second edition, volume 1, p. 228 (Serampore: Mission Press, 1818). This fact indicates the early and tentative nature of this information. One of the leading S??khya-Yoga scholars of our time, the late Ram Shankar Bhattacharya, wrote a brief article in which he reported his meager findings about Pata?jali in the pur??a literature: "Patanjali, The Author of the Yogasutra," (*Journal of the Yoga Institute*, Santa Cruz, India, vol. 27, no. 1, August 1981, pp. 178-180). He makes no mention of the things found in the above-quoted paragraph. (Of course, the Rudra-y?mala is a tantra rather than a pur??a.) This paragraph entered William Judge's book in the following way. In 1889, when Judge's book was published, there were only two complete English translations of the *Yoga-sutra*. James Ballantyne had translated the first two of its four books, published at Allahabad in 1852 and 1853. Govindadeva Sastri translated the last two of its four books, published in *The Pandit*, 1868-1872. Tookaram Tatya then gathered these together and published them for the Bombay Branch of the Theosophical Society in *The Yoga Philosophy*, 1882, with a 2nd revised edition in 1885. I have not seen the 1st ed., but the 2nd ed. has an Introduction by Col. Olcott in which he writes, p. ii: "A short sketch of the life of Patanjali is reproduced from 'A View of the History, Literature, and Mythology of the Hindus,' by the late Rev. William Ward of Serampore." The paragraph in question is then found on p. xxxvii. William Judge specifically says at the beginning of his Preface that his book is adapted from the 1885 edition. The other complete English translation of the *Yoga-sutra* then existing, by the way, is that of Rajendralala Mitra, *The Yoga Aphorisms of Patanjali with the Commentary of Bhoja Raja*, 1883. Best regards, David Reigle Colorado, U.S.A. On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 1:04 PM, M?ns Broo via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > Dear Colleagues, > > In the preface to his interpretation of the Yoga-sutra (1889), the > theosophist W.Q. Judge writes, > > "About Patanjali's life very little, if anything, can be said. In the > Rudra Jamala, the Vrihannandikes'wara and the Padma-Purana are some meager > statements, more or less legendary, relating to his birth. Ilavrita-Varsha > is said to have been his birthplace, his mother being Sati the wife of > Angiras. The tradition runs that upon his birth he made known things past, > present and future, showing the intellect and penetration of a sage while > yet an infant. He is said to have married one Lolupa, whom he found in the > hollow of a tree on the north of Sumeru, and thereafter to have lived to a > great age. On one occasion, being insulted by the inhabitants of > Bhotabhandra while he was engaged in religious austerities, he reduced them > to ashes by fire from his mouth." > > Has anyone located these or other similar stories of Patanjali? > > Sincerely, > M?ns Broo > > -- > Dr. M?ns Broo > Senior Lecturer of Comparative Religion > Editor of Temenos, Nordic Journal of Comparative Religion > ?bo Akademi University > Fabriksgatan 2 > FI-20500 ?bo, Finland > phone: +358-2-2154398 > fax: +358-2-2154902 > mobile: +358-50-5695754 > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Bradley.Clough at mso.umt.edu Mon May 15 00:39:00 2017 From: Bradley.Clough at mso.umt.edu (Clough, Bradley) Date: Mon, 15 May 17 00:39:00 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Patanjali in the Puranas? In-Reply-To: <20170514220436.503fbqd0mcw48g0k@webmail1.abo.fi> Message-ID: David Gordon White?s The Yoga Sutra of Patanjali: A Biography does a good job of collating the hagiographical details about Patanjali from a variety of sources. Brad Dr. Bradley S. Clough Global Humanities and Religions LA 101 The University of Montana 32 Campus Drive Missoula, MT 59812 bradley.clough at mso.umt.edu Phone: 406-243-2837 Fax: 406-243-4076 On May 14, 2017, at 1:04 PM, M?ns Broo via INDOLOGY > wrote: Dear Colleagues, In the preface to his interpretation of the Yoga-sutra (1889), the theosophist W.Q. Judge writes, "About Patanjali's life very little, if anything, can be said. In the Rudra Jamala, the Vrihannandikes'wara and the Padma-Purana are some meager statements, more or less legendary, relating to his birth. Ilavrita-Varsha is said to have been his birthplace, his mother being Sati the wife of Angiras. The tradition runs that upon his birth he made known things past, present and future, showing the intellect and penetration of a sage while yet an infant. He is said to have married one Lolupa, whom he found in the hollow of a tree on the north of Sumeru, and thereafter to have lived to a great age. On one occasion, being insulted by the inhabitants of Bhotabhandra while he was engaged in religious austerities, he reduced them to ashes by fire from his mouth." Has anyone located these or other similar stories of Patanjali? Sincerely, M?ns Broo -- Dr. M?ns Broo Senior Lecturer of Comparative Religion Editor of Temenos, Nordic Journal of Comparative Religion ?bo Akademi University Fabriksgatan 2 FI-20500 ?bo, Finland phone: +358-2-2154398 fax: +358-2-2154902 mobile: +358-50-5695754 _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From mbroo at abo.fi Mon May 15 09:04:36 2017 From: mbroo at abo.fi (mbroo at abo.fi) Date: Mon, 15 May 17 12:04:36 +0300 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Patanjali in the Puranas? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20170515120436.lj3aun4hkwkss04s@webmail1.abo.fi> Thank you to Dominik Wujastyk, Martin Gansten, David Reigle and Brad Clough for their very helpful answers on- and off-list. Much appreciated! M?ns -- Dr. M?ns Broo Senior Lecturer of Comparative Religion Editor of Temenos, Nordic Journal of Comparative Religion ?bo Akademi University Fabriksgatan 2 FI-20500 ?bo, Finland phone: +358-2-2154398 fax: +358-2-2154902 mobile: +358-50-5695754 From mailmealakendudas at rediffmail.com Mon May 15 11:28:56 2017 From: mailmealakendudas at rediffmail.com (alakendu das) Date: Mon, 15 May 17 11:28:56 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] BACHASPATI MISRA'S BHAMATI Message-ID: <20170515112856.3729.qmail@f4mail-235-166.rediffmail.com> To All, I qoute from the Introductory preface from Bachaspati Misra's BHAMATI' where he writes,while pledging his respect for Badarayana - ' Brahmasutra Krte Tasmai Bedbyasyaya Bedase GyanshaktaAvataraya namo BHAGAVATE HARE' My question remains- Was Bachaspati Misra was a Vaishnava.? ALAKENDU DAS. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Perhaps it would be relevant to note in this context that there were two great scholars named V?caspati-mi?ra who were separated from each other by about five centuries. See Aklujkar, Ashok. 1998. "V?caspati-mi?ra's Tattva-samik?? and the last two verses in Yukti-d^pik? manuscripts." Adyar Library Bulletin 62: 125-165. a.a. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: AklujkarA.Prologueepilogueverses.Vacaspati.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 230768 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wujastyk at gmail.com Mon May 15 20:58:04 2017 From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Mon, 15 May 17 14:58:04 -0600 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Survey about the SARIT service: please help! Message-ID: If you have a few minutes - I mean not more than about 10 - it would help me a lot if you would be so kind as to answer this questionnaire about the SARIT e-text library. The purpose of the questionnaire is to see whether what SARIT offers is actually what you, as an Indologist, want. And if not, what features you find good, bad, or would like to see added to the SARIT service. This is a good chance for you to shape the future of SARIT! Best, and with many thanks for any time you kindly spend on this, Dominik Wujastyk ? -- Professor Dominik Wujastyk ?,? Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity ?,? Department of History and Classics ?,? University of Alberta, Canada ?.? South Asia at the U of A: ?sas.ualberta.ca? ?? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From ashok.aklujkar at gmail.com Mon May 15 23:43:02 2017 From: ashok.aklujkar at gmail.com (Ashok Aklujkar) Date: Mon, 15 May 17 16:43:02 -0700 Subject: [INDOLOGY] BACHASPATI MISRA'S BHAMATI In-Reply-To: <20170515112856.3729.qmail@f4mail-235-166.rediffmail.com> Message-ID: <0DDD05F3-A25B-4655-A912-E6AFC58ED558@gmail.com> The unintended part has again appeared in the address in my post a short time ago. This time I have retyped the whole address. Let us see if that strategy fools the computer and I can reach the Indology forum without bringing in any individual member of the forum. If any of you have solutions to suggest, please feel free to do so. a.a. From tylerwwilliams at gmail.com Tue May 16 02:59:42 2017 From: tylerwwilliams at gmail.com (Tyler Williams) Date: Mon, 15 May 17 21:59:42 -0500 Subject: [INDOLOGY] "Puspika" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thank you, Nagaraj, Timothy, and P?ter-D?niel. The floral aspect certainly is curious, and does indeed bring to mind a final 'blossoming', and the decorative fleurons found at the end of some manuscripts. The reference Bhattacharya's article eventually led me to Radhakanta Deva's *?abdakalpadruma*, which is the earliest lexicographical entry for the term I have so far been able to find. So this usage is at least datable to the late eighteenth/early nineteenth century. The search continues... Best and thanks, Tyler On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 8:54 AM, P?ter-D?niel Sz?nt? < peter.daniel.szanto at gmail.com> wrote: > Fleuron, surely? > > On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Nagaraj Paturi via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Now when I see that word origin for colophon has got to do with the peak >> of a hill, I began to think that those who coined pushpikaa had a bud, >> the tip of a stem in mind and probably they thought that this, a bud, >> the tip of a stem indicates, like peak of a hill, the end /conclusion. >> >> >> >> On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 6:48 AM, Nagaraj Paturi >> wrote: >> >>> To use such an emblem seems to be an influence of western manuscripts. >>> >>> On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 6:38 AM, Nagaraj Paturi >>> wrote: >>> >>>> It can possibly refer to the design /art work used in the manuscripts >>>> as a colophon. >>>> >>>> On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 3:45 AM, Tyler Williams via INDOLOGY < >>>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear colleagues, >>>>> >>>>> Is anyone aware of a publication that addresses the etymology or use >>>>> of the term pu?pik?/pu?pak? as a closing formula of a text or manuscript? >>>>> This meaning is not attested in pre-modern North Indian vernaculars, and >>>>> appears to enter Hindi in the twentieth century via Sanskrit lexicography >>>>> (i.e. Syamsundardas, author of the *Hind? ?abda S?gara, *appears to >>>>> have copied his entry for puspik? from Monier-Williams's dictionary). I've >>>>> checked a few sources on codicology that use the term, but they give no >>>>> information on the term itself. >>>>> >>>>> With thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Tyler Williams >>>>> University of Chicago >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>>>> committee) >>>>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >>>>> or unsubscribe) >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Nagaraj Paturi >>>> >>>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >>>> >>>> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies >>>> >>>> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >>>> >>>> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Nagaraj Paturi >>> >>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >>> >>> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies >>> >>> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >>> >>> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Nagaraj Paturi >> >> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >> >> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies >> >> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >> >> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've been toying with the idea of crunching catalog data on folio sizes and lines per folio in some collections to see if patterns emerge, but that would be a very rudimentary start. Best, Tyler On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 7:42 PM, Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear P?ter-D?niel, I'm not sure what your question is. However, this > whole issue about book production is under-explored and very interesting, > so it's a great topic to raise. > > If you're talking about paper MSS, one point I could mention: you refer to > horizontal lining. Do you mean written lines, or indentations in the > paper? I have seen - and you have too, I expect - wooden boards that are > shaped the same a s a paper folio, with holes left and right for stretching > six to ten lines of string horizontally. The paper of a leaf was pressed > to this string-board (rajjuphalaka*? s?traphalaka*?) and the impression of > strings formed the guide-lines for scribes. So one finds paper manuscripts > with these faint concertina-like indentations on them, that were evidently > made with such a tool. > > In European codicology, a manuscript atelier in a monastery would have a > wheel with pins sticking out of the rim, like extended spokes. What LW > Jones called "a sharp awl" (p. 392) It was run down each side of the > manuscript leaf, forming an eye-line between the pinpricks, so the scribes > could write in straight lines. These so-called manuscript prickings have > been used by codicologists to identify particular pricking-awls, and > therefore to identify the monastery in which a particular codex was > written. > > I've often wondered whether the Indian string-boards could offer a similar > guide, but I think probably not. The reasons are that there are too many > of these boards. One often finds them kicking around with a pile of > manuscripts. I think scribes probably made them quite frequently, for ad > hoc use. Secondly, Indian codicology is still in its infancy, and since > most Indian manuscript catalogues omit any serious physical description, > one would have to study original collections on a wide scale to get any > kind of grip on this feature. > > Best, > Dominik > > > > --- > Jones, Leslie Webber. ?Pricking Manuscripts: The Instruments and Their > Significance.? *Speculum*, vol. 21, no. 4, 1946, pp. 389?403., > www.jstor.org/stable/2856761. > ? > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I have also pointed out that the epithet Gonard?ya ( Message-ID: <1494875673.S.294379.30850.f4-234-164.1494924420.2851@webmail.rediffmail.com> Yes, this can be true, especially in the light of yet another sutra from his introductory preface to Bhamati. Here he speaks of Ten Abbayas ( may be attributes),namely Tapaha,Gyan,Kshama,Dhriti,Shrasrittwa,Atmasambodha etc. of Maheshwar or Lord Shiva.Here he offers his reverence for the Vedas as well as Lord Shiva. To qoute from 'Bhamati'- Shashwatay Namskurnami Vedaya cha Bhabaya cha. ALAKENDU DAS. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Tue May 16 11:26:30 2017 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Tue, 16 May 17 07:26:30 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Devanagari QWERTY Keyboard for Mac Message-ID: Dear Colleagues, I am wondering if anyone has an editable file for the Devanagari QWERTY keyboard for Mac. It comes with the Mac OSX as part of a bundle, and not as a separate keyboard file. I want to be able to edit it with Ukelely to fit it to my own needs. I would appreciate any help in this regard. Thanks. Madhav Deshpande Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com Tue May 16 13:13:43 2017 From: hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com (Harry Spier) Date: Tue, 16 May 17 09:13:43 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] pre-lined mss. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Peter-Daniel, I don't know if this is of any use to you but the Gokarna collection of vedic manuscripts (photographic facsimiles of about 250 manuscripts ) has many manuscripts with double lines separating the text and the margins in different styles. (and manuscripts without lines separating the text from the margins.) See: www.muktabodha.org and click on digital library tab. Thanks, Harry Spier Manager, Muktabodha Digital Library On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 5:35 AM, P?ter-D?niel Sz?nt? via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > I would like to try out an idea, especially since we have some black-belt > codicologists here. > > I noticed that in the mediaeval East Indian ms. corpus, we have a larger > amount of pre-lined mss. among those dated to P?la regnal years than the > ones dated in the Nepalese style. > > Perhaps I should explain: by pre-lined I mean primarily two double lines > separating the margins and the string space(/s) on each side. Secondarily, > the guideline for the s?tra to help maintain lines parallel to the edges. > Something like this: > > > ? > My survey is not at all exhaustive, and, as I said before, this practice > is not unheard of in Nepal. However, it starts in the P?la realm a little > before 1000 CE and continues steadily up to the very end, whereas in Nepal > it seems to begin only in the early 12th c. My hypothesis for the time > being is that the Nepalese were emulating this habit. Also note that the > script in these cases is usually what is referred to as 'ra?jan?' or > simplified versions thereof. Ok, this last point sounds muddled, but I > think that the palaeography for this corpus is pretty weak. > > Any comments would be greatly appreciated, especially if you can point me > to some secondary literature on the subject. > > Best wishes, > > Peter Szant2 > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Patrick Olivelle On May 18, 2017, at 1:03 AM, Dr. Rupali Mokashi via INDOLOGY > wrote: Dear List members Can you please share Katyayana Smriti Ed. Bandyopadhyaya? regards Rupali Mokashi http://rupalimokashi.wordpress.com/ _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://secure-web.cisco.com/1cKbYj_f829JZ8z2e837AsCvZifmRjFYRKPqRPr980jLUMWqcIH9ON6FCWjqAiv0UPdqhbpxk5MthNZ7Q4IDefofpRzXpoPk0ZSuZ7CWNS22wCSmp7IcdPiYv-mZU7h8CEnhw9-6hQ38v-krWS0w0DbKPiedY40vzh1reJ_-9iIxRYOIy5vaiIbxJ79HQ2zi3yMJp-IX5wpt8oR2zkaX3zY1ckiGWMcB2mMTPfHq5ht4KQQvaIOa30DXJUoFB_zSIzVtvIh9sYWOyMVoM7lpMiLZ-KxFVW7yhQRE11rVCqnvvO0d5fYlpUOeP8gZNkL7P/http%3A%2F%2Flistinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I do > not think that there is a manuscript of this text, and unaware of the > edition you refer to. > > Patrick Olivelle > > > > > On May 18, 2017, at 1:03 AM, Dr. Rupali Mokashi via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > Dear List members > Can you please share Katyayana Smriti Ed. 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The naturalisation of South Asia as a discourse recalls European precedents of producing knowledge about the ?other? in order to foster a morally and epistemologically superior European identity ? as witnessed in the historical invention of Africa, Asia, and the Middle East. [...] Questioning South Asia as a discourse that at present burdens the scholarly imagination, and overdetermines conference agendas and research funding, might reconfigure the strategies we employ to understand the region. Some of the questions we seek to investigate are: What are the obstacles to developing comparative research perspectives for scholars constrained by ?South Asia?? How can we shift away from the dominant framework of South Asia as an already-determined category, and devise new research agendas? And what demands for change, transformation, or recalibration might this place on us as subjects undertaking research?" Kindly regarding, Walter Slaje ----------------------------- Prof. Dr. Walter Slaje Hermann-L?ns-Str. 1 D-99425 Weimar Deutschland Ego ex animi mei sententia spondeo ac polliceor studia humanitatis impigro labore culturum et provecturum non sordidi lucri causa nec ad vanam captandam gloriam, sed quo magis veritas propagetur et lux eius, qua salus humani generis continetur, clarius effulgeat. Vindobonae, die XXI. mensis Novembris MCMLXXXIII. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ondracka at ff.cuni.cz Thu May 18 13:29:47 2017 From: ondracka at ff.cuni.cz (=?utf-8?Q?Lubom=C3=ADr_Ondra=C4=8Dka?=) Date: Thu, 18 May 17 15:29:47 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Katyayana Smriti Ed. Bandyopadhyaya In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20170518152947.358d26be8537f0a429d4bc70@ff.cuni.cz> Dear Madhav, I think that this edition is the same as in the collection called The Dharma Sastra Text, vol I, ed. by Manmatha Nath Dutt (Calcutta 1908). Best, Lubomir On Thu, 18 May 2017 09:16:05 -0400 Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear Dr. Mokashi, > > I have this edition (without a title page) of the K?ty?yana-smr?ti, that is > different from the K?ty?yana-smr?ti-s?roddh?ra edited by P.V. Kane. This > looks like an extracted text from a large collection of Smr?tis. This is > definitely not from the Anandashram collection of Smr?tis. A Calcutta > edition? > > Madhav Deshpande > Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > > On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 8:17 AM, Olivelle, J P via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > > Tha K?ty?yana Sm?ti was reconstructed from citations by P.V. Kane. I do > > not think that there is a manuscript of this text, and unaware of the > > edition you refer to. > > > > Patrick Olivelle > > > > > > > > > > On May 18, 2017, at 1:03 AM, Dr. Rupali Mokashi via INDOLOGY < > > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > > > Dear List members > > Can you please share Katyayana Smriti Ed. Bandyopadhyaya? > > regards > > Rupali Mokashi > > http://rupalimokashi.wordpress.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > > INDOLOGY mailing list > > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > > committee) > > http://secure-web.cisco.com/1cKbYj_f829JZ8z2e837AsCvZifmRjFYRKPqR > > Pr980jLUMWqcIH9ON6FCWjqAiv0UPdqhbpxk5MthNZ7Q4IDefofpRzXpoPk0 > > ZSuZ7CWNS22wCSmp7IcdPiYv-mZU7h8CEnhw9-6hQ38v-krWS0w0DbKPiedY40vzh1reJ_- > > 9iIxRYOIy5vaiIbxJ79HQ2zi3yMJp-IX5wpt8oR2zkaX3zY1ckiGWMcB2mMT > > PfHq5ht4KQQvaIOa30DXJUoFB_zSIzVtvIh9sYWOyMVoM7lpMiLZ- > > KxFVW7yhQRE11rVCqnvvO0d5fYlpUOeP8gZNkL7P/http%3A%2F% > > 2Flistinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > > unsubscribe) > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > INDOLOGY mailing list > > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > > committee) > > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > > unsubscribe) > > From mmdesh at umich.edu Thu May 18 13:35:46 2017 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Thu, 18 May 17 09:35:46 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Katyayana Smriti Ed. Bandyopadhyaya In-Reply-To: <20170518152947.358d26be8537f0a429d4bc70@ff.cuni.cz> Message-ID: Thanks, Lubomir. Is this collection edited by Dutt available as a pdf? Madhav On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Lubom?r Ondra?ka wrote: > Dear Madhav, > > I think that this edition is the same as in the collection called The > Dharma Sastra Text, vol I, ed. by Manmatha Nath Dutt (Calcutta 1908). > > Best, > Lubomir > > > On Thu, 18 May 2017 09:16:05 -0400 > Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY wrote: > > > Dear Dr. Mokashi, > > > > I have this edition (without a title page) of the K?ty?yana-smr?ti, that > is > > different from the K?ty?yana-smr?ti-s?roddh?ra edited by P.V. Kane. This > > looks like an extracted text from a large collection of Smr?tis. This is > > definitely not from the Anandashram collection of Smr?tis. A Calcutta > > edition? > > > > Madhav Deshpande > > Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > > > > On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 8:17 AM, Olivelle, J P via INDOLOGY < > > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > > > > Tha K?ty?yana Sm?ti was reconstructed from citations by P.V. Kane. I do > > > not think that there is a manuscript of this text, and unaware of the > > > edition you refer to. > > > > > > Patrick Olivelle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 18, 2017, at 1:03 AM, Dr. Rupali Mokashi via INDOLOGY < > > > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > > > > > Dear List members > > > Can you please share Katyayana Smriti Ed. 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URL: From hr at ivs.edu Thu May 18 13:45:16 2017 From: hr at ivs.edu (Howard Resnick) Date: Thu, 18 May 17 16:45:16 +0300 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Questioning South Asia Conference In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <55569EA8-54C2-4BBE-89EF-24B69722D866@ivs.edu> Thank you Walter. I hope I?m not the only one that is somewhat incredulous at the idea that to accept the rubric of ?South Asia? as a legitimate organizing tool of scholarship ?signals acquiescence if not participation in an agenda informed by pursuit of global hegemony.? ?Pursuit of global hegemony?? I confess that I never imagined that I was unwittingly involved in a plot to rule the world. > On May 18, 2017, at 4:23 PM, Walter Slaje via INDOLOGY wrote: > > Dear Colleagues, > > I should like to draw your attention to a conference dealing with the notion of "South Asia" as a geopolitical construct with hegemonic agendas: > http://habib.edu.pk/questioningsouthasia/ > > [Announcement excerpt] > "The geopolitical significance of South Asia has been a well-known fact in policy and security studies for the last several decades. In academic circles too, the logic of South Asia has become a naturalized reality: its appearance in the area studies departments of many US/western institutions signals acquiescence if not participation in an agenda informed by pursuit of global hegemony. The naturalisation of South Asia as a discourse recalls European precedents of producing knowledge about the ?other? in order to foster a morally and epistemologically superior European identity ? as witnessed in the historical invention of Africa, Asia, and the Middle East. [...] Questioning South Asia as a discourse that at present burdens the scholarly imagination, and overdetermines conference agendas and research funding, might reconfigure the strategies we employ to understand the region. Some of the questions we seek to investigate are: What are the obstacles to developing comparative research perspectives for scholars constrained by ?South Asia?? How can we shift away from the dominant framework of South Asia as an already-determined category, and devise new research agendas? And what demands for change, transformation, or recalibration might this place on us as subjects undertaking research?" > > Kindly regarding, > Walter Slaje > > ----------------------------- > Prof. Dr. Walter Slaje > Hermann-L?ns-Str. 1 > D-99425 Weimar > Deutschland > > Ego ex animi mei sententia spondeo ac polliceor > studia humanitatis impigro labore culturum et provecturum > non sordidi lucri causa nec ad vanam captandam gloriam, > sed quo magis veritas propagetur et lux eius, qua salus > humani generis continetur, clarius effulgeat. > Vindobonae, die XXI. mensis Novembris MCMLXXXIII. > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ondracka at ff.cuni.cz Thu May 18 13:47:12 2017 From: ondracka at ff.cuni.cz (=?utf-8?Q?Lubom=C3=ADr_Ondra=C4=8Dka?=) Date: Thu, 18 May 17 15:47:12 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Katyayana Smriti Ed. Bandyopadhyaya In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20170518154712.bf10022431112eec770fe2f1@ff.cuni.cz> Yes, it is. The original edition is here: https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.345616 Now I see that the text is named sa?hit? (not smr?ti), but it seems that it's the same. Best, Lubomir On Thu, 18 May 2017 09:35:46 -0400 Madhav Deshpande wrote: > Thanks, Lubomir. Is this collection edited by Dutt available as a pdf? > > Madhav > > On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Lubom?r Ondra?ka > wrote: > > > Dear Madhav, > > > > I think that this edition is the same as in the collection called The > > Dharma Sastra Text, vol I, ed. by Manmatha Nath Dutt (Calcutta 1908). > > > > Best, > > Lubomir > > > > > > On Thu, 18 May 2017 09:16:05 -0400 > > Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY wrote: > > > > > Dear Dr. Mokashi, > > > > > > I have this edition (without a title page) of the K?ty?yana-smr?ti, that > > is > > > different from the K?ty?yana-smr?ti-s?roddh?ra edited by P.V. Kane. This > > > looks like an extracted text from a large collection of Smr?tis. This is > > > definitely not from the Anandashram collection of Smr?tis. A Calcutta > > > edition? > > > > > > Madhav Deshpande > > > Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > > > > > > On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 8:17 AM, Olivelle, J P via INDOLOGY < > > > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > > > > > > Tha K?ty?yana Sm?ti was reconstructed from citations by P.V. Kane. I do > > > > not think that there is a manuscript of this text, and unaware of the > > > > edition you refer to. > > > > > > > > Patrick Olivelle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 18, 2017, at 1:03 AM, Dr. Rupali Mokashi via INDOLOGY < > > > > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear List members > > > > Can you please share Katyayana Smriti Ed. Bandyopadhyaya? > > > > regards > > > > Rupali Mokashi > > > > http://rupalimokashi.wordpress.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > INDOLOGY mailing list > > > > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > > > > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > > > > committee) > > > > http://secure-web.cisco.com/1cKbYj_f829JZ8z2e837AsCvZifmRjFYRKPqR > > > > Pr980jLUMWqcIH9ON6FCWjqAiv0UPdqhbpxk5MthNZ7Q4IDefofpRzXpoPk0 > > > > ZSuZ7CWNS22wCSmp7IcdPiYv-mZU7h8CEnhw9-6hQ38v- > > krWS0w0DbKPiedY40vzh1reJ_- > > > > 9iIxRYOIy5vaiIbxJ79HQ2zi3yMJp-IX5wpt8oR2zkaX3zY1ckiGWMcB2mMT > > > > PfHq5ht4KQQvaIOa30DXJUoFB_zSIzVtvIh9sYWOyMVoM7lpMiLZ- > > > > KxFVW7yhQRE11rVCqnvvO0d5fYlpUOeP8gZNkL7P/http%3A%2F% > > > > 2Flistinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > > > > unsubscribe) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > INDOLOGY mailing list > > > > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > > > > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > > > > committee) > > > > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options > > or > > > > unsubscribe) > > > > > > From alanus1216 at yahoo.com Thu May 18 14:15:53 2017 From: alanus1216 at yahoo.com (Allen Thrasher) Date: Thu, 18 May 17 14:15:53 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Questioning South Asia Conference In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1715552683.522708.1495116953311@mail.yahoo.com> Who is supposed to be seeking hegemony, the US, the West, India? The states of the region seem to accept the concept, since they have founded SAARC. Allen Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 9:24 AM, Walter Slaje via INDOLOGY wrote: Dear Colleagues, I should like to draw your attention to a conference dealing with the notion of "South Asia" as a geopolitical construct with hegemonic agendas: http://habib.edu.pk/questioningsouthasia/ [Announcement excerpt] "The geopolitical significance of South Asia has been a well-known fact in policy and security studies for the last several decades. In academic circles too, the logic of South Asia has become a naturalized reality: its appearance in the area studies departments of many US/western institutions signals acquiescence if not participation in an agenda informed by pursuit of global hegemony. The naturalisation of South Asia as a discourse recalls European precedents of producing knowledge about the ?other? in order to foster a morally and epistemologically superior European identity ? as witnessed in the historical invention of Africa, Asia, and the Middle East. [...] Questioning South Asia as a discourse that at present burdens the scholarly imagination, and overdetermines conference agendas and research funding, might reconfigure the strategies we employ to understand the region.Some of the questions we seek to investigate are: What are the obstacles to developing comparative research perspectives for scholars constrained by ?South Asia?? How can we shift away from the dominant framework of South Asia as an already-determined category, and devise new research agendas? And what demands for change, transformation, or recalibration might this place on us as subjects undertaking research?" Kindly regarding, Walter Slaje ----------------------------- Prof. Dr. Walter Slaje Hermann-L?ns-Str. 1 D-99425 Weimar Deutschland Ego ex animi mei sententia spondeo acpolliceor studia humanitatis impigro labore culturumet provecturum non sordidi lucri causa nec ad vanamcaptandam gloriam, sed quo magis veritas propagetur et luxeius, qua salus humani generis continetur, clarius effulgeat. Vindobonae, die XXI. mensis NovembrisMCMLXXXIII. _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From slaje at kabelmail.de Thu May 18 15:18:57 2017 From: slaje at kabelmail.de (Walter Slaje) Date: Thu, 18 May 17 17:18:57 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Questioning South Asia Conference In-Reply-To: <55569EA8-54C2-4BBE-89EF-24B69722D866@ivs.edu> Message-ID: Thank you, too, Howard! These questions are however best addressed to the organizers of the conference. I am not involved. > ?Pursuit of global hegemony?? ?The word, the phrase "South Asia" was invented in Washington D.C. at the State Department.? (Sheldon Pollock). If "South Asia" ? understood in its geopolitical connotation ? was indeed instigated by the State Department as part of a conceptual, i.e. artificial segmentation of Asia into different post-war spheres of influence, in whose interest should one expect them to pursue such an agenda? The temporal coincidence with the swift founding of Departments and courses of university studies, all of a sudden bearing ?South Asia? in their names like flag-staffs of the new policy is something which might make some colleagues reflect a little more about the institutional histories of their subject. Have a look at this: *http://tinyurl.com/lnn4uqw * Regards, Walter 2017-05-18 15:45 GMT+02:00 Howard Resnick
: > Thank you Walter. I hope I?m not the only one that is somewhat incredulous > at the idea that to accept the rubric of ?South Asia? as a legitimate > organizing tool of scholarship ?signals acquiescence if not participation > in an agenda informed by pursuit of global hegemony.? > > ?Pursuit of global hegemony?? > > I confess that I never imagined that I was unwittingly involved in a plot > to rule the world. > > > On May 18, 2017, at 4:23 PM, Walter Slaje via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > Dear Colleagues, > > I should like to draw your attention to a conference dealing with the > notion of "South Asia" as a geopolitical construct with hegemonic agendas: > http://habib.edu.pk/questioningsouthasia/ > > [Announcement excerpt] > "The geopolitical significance of South Asia has been a well-known fact in > policy and security studies for the last several decades. In academic > circles too, the logic of South Asia has become a naturalized reality: its > appearance in the area studies departments of many US/western institutions > signals acquiescence if not participation in an agenda informed by pursuit > of global hegemony. The naturalisation of South Asia as a discourse recalls > European precedents of producing knowledge about the ?other? in order to > foster a morally and epistemologically superior European identity ? as > witnessed in the historical invention of Africa, Asia, and the Middle East. > [...] Questioning South Asia as a discourse that at present burdens the > scholarly imagination, and overdetermines conference agendas and research > funding, might reconfigure the strategies we employ to understand the > region. Some of the questions we seek to investigate are: What are the > obstacles to developing comparative research perspectives for scholars > constrained by ?South Asia?? How can we shift away from the dominant > framework of South Asia as an already-determined category, and devise new > research agendas? And what demands for change, transformation, or > recalibration might this place on us as subjects undertaking research?" > > Kindly regarding, > Walter Slaje > > ----------------------------- > Prof. Dr. Walter Slaje > Hermann-L?ns-Str. 1 > D-99425 Weimar > Deutschland > > Ego ex animi mei sententia spondeo ac polliceor > studia humanitatis impigro labore culturum et provecturum > non sordidi lucri causa nec ad vanam captandam gloriam, > sed quo magis veritas propagetur et lux eius, qua salus > humani generis continetur, clarius effulgeat. > Vindobonae, die XXI. mensis Novembris MCMLXXXIII. > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com Thu May 18 21:01:30 2017 From: hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com (Harry Spier) Date: Thu, 18 May 17 17:01:30 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Accessing Muktabodha Digital Library by users with Mac computers. Message-ID: Dear list members, One of the list members has informed me that when he accesses the Gokarna Vedic Collection of the Muktabodha Digital Library with a Mac and the Safari browser when he clicks on the pdf link to a manuscript instead of a pdf file opening with photos of the manuscript he gets gibberish text. I am able to access the pdf's of the manuscripts with windows with no problems. Would it be possible for a list member who has a mac and safari to try to access pdf's of the Gokarna Vedic collection and tell me if he gets a pdf of the manuscript or if he also gets gibberish. 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Many thanks, Harry Spier On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 5:01 PM, Harry Spier wrote: > Dear list members, > > One of the list members has informed me that when he accesses the Gokarna > Vedic Collection of the Muktabodha Digital Library with a Mac and the > Safari browser when he clicks on the pdf link to a manuscript instead of a > pdf file opening with photos of the manuscript he gets gibberish text. > > I am able to access the pdf's of the manuscripts with windows with no > problems. > > Would it be possible for a list member who has a mac and safari to try to > access pdf's of the Gokarna Vedic collection and tell me if he gets a pdf > of the manuscript or if he also gets gibberish. > > The direct link to the Gokarna Vedic collection is: > http://muktalib5.org/gokarna_collection_secure_entry.htm > > Thanks, > Harry Spier > Manager, Muktabodha Digital Library > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andrea.acri at ephe.sorbonne.fr Thu May 18 22:15:21 2017 From: andrea.acri at ephe.sorbonne.fr (Andrea Acri) Date: Fri, 19 May 17 00:15:21 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Questioning South Asia Conference In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <57D580F2-B062-4A45-842B-A8D474D49AEB@ephe.sorbonne.fr> The mere geographical (geopolitical?) expressions of ? Central/South/Southeast/East Asia ? are no less artificial, constructed and arbitrary than the boundaries of the modern nation states?especially when dealing with premodern phenomena (something that has been pointed out by Pollock indeed). Much has been written on this issue in the past two or three decades, yet it is somehow depressing to see how this body of research (mostly produced by global historians, but also by Area Studies scholars) seems to have had a rather limited impact on the tightly compartmentalized ? Area Studies ? paradigm (except, perhaps, the creation of some ? Indian Ocean ? research initiatives), not to speak about the fields of Indology and/or South Asian studies. I cannot but agree with Prof. Slaje?s invitation to reflect on the institutional history of our subject(s), their (geo)political implications, etc. Andrea Acri Ma?tre de conf?rences ?tudes tantriques/Tantric Studies ?cole Pratique des Hautes ?tudes (Sciences Religieuses), Paris andrea.acri at ephe.sorbonne.fr Publications at: www.ephe.academia.edu/AndreaAcri > Le 18 mai 2017 ? 17:18, Walter Slaje via INDOLOGY a ?crit : > > Thank you, too, Howard! These questions are however best addressed to the organizers of the conference. > > I am not involved. > > > > > ?Pursuit of global hegemony?? > > > > ?The word, the phrase "South Asia" was invented in Washington D.C. at the State Department.? > > (Sheldon Pollock). > > > > > If "South Asia" ? understood in its geopolitical connotation ? was indeed instigated by the State Department as part of a conceptual, i.e. artificial segmentation of Asia into different post-war spheres of influence, in whose interest should one expect them to pursue such an agenda? > > The temporal coincidence with the swift founding of Departments and courses of university studies, all of a sudden bearing ?South Asia? in their names like flag-staffs of the new policy is something which might make some colleagues reflect a little more about the institutional histories of their subject. > > > > Have a look at this: > > http://tinyurl.com/lnn4uqw > > Regards, > > Walter > > > > > > > > > > > 2017-05-18 15:45 GMT+02:00 Howard Resnick
>: > Thank you Walter. I hope I?m not the only one that is somewhat incredulous at the idea that to accept the rubric of ?South Asia? as a legitimate organizing tool of scholarship ?signals acquiescence if not participation in an agenda informed by pursuit of global hegemony.? > > ?Pursuit of global hegemony?? > > I confess that I never imagined that I was unwittingly involved in a plot to rule the world. > > >> On May 18, 2017, at 4:23 PM, Walter Slaje via INDOLOGY > wrote: >> >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> I should like to draw your attention to a conference dealing with the notion of "South Asia" as a geopolitical construct with hegemonic agendas: >> http://habib.edu.pk/questioningsouthasia/ >> >> [Announcement excerpt] >> "The geopolitical significance of South Asia has been a well-known fact in policy and security studies for the last several decades. In academic circles too, the logic of South Asia has become a naturalized reality: its appearance in the area studies departments of many US/western institutions signals acquiescence if not participation in an agenda informed by pursuit of global hegemony. The naturalisation of South Asia as a discourse recalls European precedents of producing knowledge about the ?other? in order to foster a morally and epistemologically superior European identity ? as witnessed in the historical invention of Africa, Asia, and the Middle East. [...] Questioning South Asia as a discourse that at present burdens the scholarly imagination, and overdetermines conference agendas and research funding, might reconfigure the strategies we employ to understand the region. Some of the questions we seek to investigate are: What are the obstacles to developing comparative research perspectives for scholars constrained by ?South Asia?? How can we shift away from the dominant framework of South Asia as an already-determined category, and devise new research agendas? And what demands for change, transformation, or recalibration might this place on us as subjects undertaking research?" >> >> Kindly regarding, >> Walter Slaje >> >> ----------------------------- >> Prof. Dr. Walter Slaje >> Hermann-L?ns-Str. 1 >> D-99425 Weimar >> Deutschland >> >> Ego ex animi mei sententia spondeo ac polliceor >> studia humanitatis impigro labore culturum et provecturum >> non sordidi lucri causa nec ad vanam captandam gloriam, >> sed quo magis veritas propagetur et lux eius, qua salus >> humani generis continetur, clarius effulgeat. >> Vindobonae, die XXI. mensis Novembris MCMLXXXIII. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com Fri May 19 06:05:08 2017 From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi) Date: Fri, 19 May 17 11:35:08 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Ashokan Pillars' transport In-Reply-To: Message-ID: There is a paper presented in the Indian History Congress by Syed Ali Nadeem Razavi avialable for download at https://archive.org/download/AntiquarianInterestsInMedievalIndiaTheRelocationOfPillarsByFiruzshah/AntiquarianInterestsInMedievalIndia.pdf In which he says: The first question which concerns us in this paper is the problem of how these massive pillars were cut and transported from the place of origin (mainly from quarries of Chunar and Mathura) by Ashoka, their transportation to their new sites and installation therein. The sheer weight and volume of the monoliths would require much labour and use of technological devices. Some light on this issue is thrown by two 14 lh century contemporary sources of Firuzshah Tughluq: the anonymous Sirat-i Firuzshahi and the Tarikh-i Firuzshahi of Shams Siraj Afif.' 2 From both these texts it appears that Firuzshah in September 1367 ordered the use of capstan, pulleys, ropes and padding to remove and refix the pillars and large carts and boats to transfer them by road and river. To quote Afif on the 996 IHC: Proceedings, 70th Session, 2009-10 pillar being taken down and prepared for the journey from Topra to Delhi: On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Artur Karp via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear List, > > Has anyone studied - and written on - the mode of transport of A?okan > pillars out of the quarry in Chunar, dst. Mirzapur, Uttar Pradesh? > > The Firoz Shah Kotla Pillar (brought by Firoz from Ambala dst., Haryana) > is a sandstone monolith nearly 13 m. in height, and it weighs close to 27 > tons. > > Regards, > > Artur Karp (ret.) > Chair of South Asian Studies, > University of Warsaw > Polska > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jonathan On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 8:05 AM, Nagaraj Paturi via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > There is a paper presented in the Indian History Congress by Syed Ali > Nadeem Razavi avialable for download at https://archive.org/download/ > AntiquarianInterestsInMedievalIndiaTheRelocationOfPillarsByFiruzshah/ > AntiquarianInterestsInMedievalIndia.pdf > > In which he says: > > > The first question which concerns us in this paper is the problem > of how these massive pillars were cut and transported from the place > of origin (mainly from quarries of Chunar and Mathura) by Ashoka, > their transportation to their new sites and installation therein. The sheer > weight and volume of the monoliths would require much labour and > use of technological devices. > > Some light on this issue is thrown by two 14 lh century contemporary > sources of Firuzshah Tughluq: the anonymous Sirat-i Firuzshahi and > the Tarikh-i Firuzshahi of Shams Siraj Afif.' 2 From both these texts it > appears that Firuzshah in September 1367 ordered the use of capstan, > pulleys, ropes and padding to remove and refix the pillars and large > carts and boats to transfer them by road and river. To quote Afif on the > > > > 996 IHC: Proceedings, 70th Session, 2009-10 > > pillar being taken down and prepared for the journey from Topra to > Delhi: > > > On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Artur Karp via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Dear List, >> >> Has anyone studied - and written on - the mode of transport of A?okan >> pillars out of the quarry in Chunar, dst. Mirzapur, Uttar Pradesh? >> >> The Firoz Shah Kotla Pillar (brought by Firoz from Ambala dst., Haryana) >> is a sandstone monolith nearly 13 m. in height, and it weighs close to 27 >> tons. >> >> Regards, >> >> Artur Karp (ret.) >> Chair of South Asian Studies, >> University of Warsaw >> Polska >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies > > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, > > (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -- J. Silk Leiden University Leiden University Institute for Area Studies, LIAS Matthias de Vrieshof 3, Room 0.05b 2311 BZ Leiden The Netherlands copies of my publications may be found at http://www.buddhismandsocialjustice.com/silk_publications.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rpjain1903 at gmail.com Fri May 19 07:31:57 2017 From: rpjain1903 at gmail.com (R. P. Jain) Date: Fri, 19 May 17 13:01:57 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] PAPERS OF THE 11TH WORLD SANSKRIT CONFERENCE Message-ID: Dear Sir I would like to know what are the books published under 11th World Sanskrit Conference. Who is the publisher and from whom I can get the books. Sincerely Rajeev Jain -- --------------------------- "Ananda" Villa # 7, 10 A, Rajniwas Marg Civil Lines Delhi - 110 054 (India) ----------------------------- Your enemy is your greatest teacher ... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karp at uw.edu.pl Fri May 19 07:47:31 2017 From: karp at uw.edu.pl (Artur Karp) Date: Fri, 19 May 17 09:47:31 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Ashokan Pillars' transport In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jonathan writes: > John Irwin wrote about this question somewhere... Yes, the biblio of his work is given in footnotes nos 1, 4, 5, 6 of Syed Ali Nadeem Rezavi's paper attached by Nagaraj Paturi. Thanks, Nagaraj. PS. Would anyone have access to V. Jayasval's paper mentioned in footnote 28? "From Resource Exploitation to Final Chipping: A Study of Ancient Scupturing Processes in Chunar-Varanasi Region", in: Indian Archaeology Since Independence, ed. K.M. Shrimali, Delhi 1996, pp. 35-44. Thanks in advance, Artur Karp Polska 2017-05-19 9:19 GMT+02:00 Jonathan Silk : > It's been a very long time and my memory is getting worse and worse, and > no doubt a colleague can help, but if I am not entirely mistaken John Irwin > wrote about this question somewhere... > > Jonathan > > On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 8:05 AM, Nagaraj Paturi via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> There is a paper presented in the Indian History Congress by Syed Ali >> Nadeem Razavi avialable for download at https://archive.org/downloa >> d/AntiquarianInterestsInMedievalIndiaTheRelocationOfPillarsB >> yFiruzshah/AntiquarianInterestsInMedievalIndia.pdf >> >> In which he says: >> >> >> The first question which concerns us in this paper is the problem >> of how these massive pillars were cut and transported from the place >> of origin (mainly from quarries of Chunar and Mathura) by Ashoka, >> their transportation to their new sites and installation therein. The sheer >> weight and volume of the monoliths would require much labour and >> use of technological devices. >> >> Some light on this issue is thrown by two 14 lh century contemporary >> sources of Firuzshah Tughluq: the anonymous Sirat-i Firuzshahi and >> the Tarikh-i Firuzshahi of Shams Siraj Afif.' 2 From both these texts it >> appears that Firuzshah in September 1367 ordered the use of capstan, >> pulleys, ropes and padding to remove and refix the pillars and large >> carts and boats to transfer them by road and river. To quote Afif on the >> >> >> >> 996 IHC: Proceedings, 70th Session, 2009-10 >> >> pillar being taken down and prepared for the journey from Topra to >> Delhi: >> >> >> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Artur Karp via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >>> Dear List, >>> >>> Has anyone studied - and written on - the mode of transport of A?okan >>> pillars out of the quarry in Chunar, dst. Mirzapur, Uttar Pradesh? >>> >>> The Firoz Shah Kotla Pillar (brought by Firoz from Ambala dst., Haryana) >>> is a sandstone monolith nearly 13 m. in height, and it weighs close to 27 >>> tons. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Artur Karp (ret.) >>> Chair of South Asian Studies, >>> University of Warsaw >>> Polska >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>> committee) >>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >>> or unsubscribe) >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Nagaraj Paturi >> >> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >> >> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies >> >> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >> >> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > > > -- > J. Silk > Leiden University > Leiden University Institute for Area Studies, LIAS > Matthias de Vrieshof 3, Room 0.05b > 2311 BZ Leiden > The Netherlands > > copies of my publications may be found at > http://www.buddhismandsocialjustice.com/silk_publications.html > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From soni at staff.uni-marburg.de Fri May 19 09:11:24 2017 From: soni at staff.uni-marburg.de (soni at staff.uni-marburg.de) Date: Fri, 19 May 17 11:11:24 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] PAPERS OF THE 11TH WORLD SANSKRIT CONFERENCE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20170519111124.Horde.DHiZXrvQyvZRSDOtcgb_fU2@home.staff.uni-marburg.de> Dear Mr Jain, Here are the details of that WSC: Proceedings of the XI World Sanskrit Conference (Turin, April 3rd-8th, 2000) - Indologica Taurinensia, VOLUME XXIX (2003): 1st part. VOLUME XXX (2004): 2nd Part. Both these volumes, and many others, are accessible online here: http://www.indologica.com With best wishes and hoping this helps, J. Soni Secretary General of the IASS ----- Message from "R. P. Jain via INDOLOGY" --------- Date: Fri, 19 May 2017 13:01:57 +0530 From: "R. P. Jain via INDOLOGY" Reply-To: "R. P. Jain" Subject: [INDOLOGY] PAPERS OF THE 11TH WORLD SANSKRIT CONFERENCE To: Indology , indology-owner at list.indology.info > Dear Sir > > I would like to know what are the books published under 11th World Sanskrit > Conference. Who is the publisher and from whom I can get the books. > > > > Sincerely > Rajeev Jain > > -- > > --------------------------- > "Ananda" Villa # 7, > 10 A, Rajniwas Marg > Civil Lines > Delhi - 110 054 (India) > ----------------------------- > Your enemy is your greatest teacher ... ----- End message from "R. P. Jain via INDOLOGY" ----- -- From hr at ivs.edu Fri May 19 13:31:26 2017 From: hr at ivs.edu (Howard Resnick) Date: Fri, 19 May 17 16:31:26 +0300 Subject: [INDOLOGY] article Message-ID: <176D818F-87B4-4E62-890C-2DC7E6F27AFB@ivs.edu> This may be relevant to some scholars, especially given India?s multi-religious context. http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2017/05/divinity-school-panel-seeks-guidance-from-law-business-and-ed-school-deans/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=harvard_alumni_gazette&utm_content=udo_all_entities_excl_students_2017-05-19&utm_term=hds -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Besides archaeological investigations, ethnological surveys were also carried out. As a result of which it has been possible, start from quarrying of stone carving process, start from quarrying of stone blocks, their transportation to the centres of utility-carving of the sculpturing centres and the main religious centres etc. Best wishes, Julia ---------------------- Dr Julia Shaw Lecturer in South Asian Archaeology Institute of Archaeology UCL 31-34 Gordon Square London WC1H 0PY http://www.ucl.ac.uk/archaeology/people/staff/shaw Message: 5 Date: Fri, 19 May 2017 07:32:00 +0200 From: Artur Karp To: indology Subject: [INDOLOGY] Ashokan Pillars' transport Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Dear List, Has anyone studied - and written on - the mode of transport of A?okan pillars out of the quarry in Chunar, dst. Mirzapur, Uttar Pradesh? The Firoz Shah Kotla Pillar (brought by Firoz from Ambala dst., Haryana) is a sandstone monolith nearly 13 m. in height, and it weighs close to 27 tons. Regards, Artur Karp (ret.) Chair of South Asian Studies, University of Warsaw Polska -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julia.shaw at ucl.ac.uk Fri May 19 17:50:45 2017 From: julia.shaw at ucl.ac.uk (Shaw, Julia) Date: Fri, 19 May 17 17:50:45 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Ashokan Pillars' transport Message-ID: John Irwin indeed wrote a series of papers on Ashokan pillars in the Burlington Magazine back in the 1970s, largely from the perspective of his theories regarding axiality and the pillars' links with older cosmogonic traditions. This is the second of several such articles: https://www.jstor.org/stable/877843?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents Best wishes Julia --- Dr Julia Shaw Lecturer in South Asian Archaeology Institute of Archaeology UCL 31-34 Gordon Square London WC1H 0PY http://www.ucl.ac.uk/archaeology/people/staff/shaw Message: 7 Date: Fri, 19 May 2017 09:19:17 +0200 From: Jonathan Silk To: Nagaraj Paturi Cc: Artur Karp , indology Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Ashokan Pillars' transport Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" It's been a very long time and my memory is getting worse and worse, and no doubt a colleague can help, but if I am not entirely mistaken John Irwin wrote about this question somewhere... Jonathan Dr Julia Shaw Lecturer in South Asian Archaeology Institute of Archaeology UCL 31-34 Gordon Square London WC1H 0PY http://www.ucl.ac.uk/archaeology/people/staff/shaw -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karp at uw.edu.pl Fri May 19 17:58:57 2017 From: karp at uw.edu.pl (Artur Karp) Date: Fri, 19 May 17 19:58:57 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Ashokan Pillars' transport In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thank you, Julia. But - a pity. The link does not lead to the paper, one gets a view of some selected fragments, nothing more. Pity - again. But, anyway - getting the pillar out of the quarry, then - transporting it to the river, then - moving it onto a ship, then - getting it out of the ship, then - transporting it to the place of the final destination, then - setting it there --- a phantastically complicated technical/organizational enterprise. Says much more about the A?okan era than - I'd risk saying that - some enigmatic texts engraved on the pillar. Best wishes, Artur Polska 2017-05-19 19:43 GMT+02:00 Shaw, Julia via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info>: > Dear Artur > > Vidula Jayaswal (of BHU) has written on this. > > https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/From_Stone_Quarry_ > to_Sculpturing_Worksho.html?id=wwpuAAAAMAAJ&redir_esc=y > > > From Stone Quarry to Sculpturing Workshop > > books.google.co.uk > The recognitior of ancient stone quarries at chunar hills with dateble > epigraphs was a startling discovery made by the author of this book, in the > year 1990. the followup archaological field investigations around chunar > and Varanasi, which were carried out between the years 1990 and 1994, have > uncovered the entire process of stone carving which was prevalent during > the historical period in the Ganga plains. Besides archaeological > investigations, ethnological surveys were also carried out. As a result of > which it has been possible, start from quarrying of stone carving process, > start from quarrying of stone blocks, their transportation to the centres > of utility-carving of the sculpturing centres and the main religious > centres etc. > > > Best wishes, Julia > > ---------------------- > > Dr Julia Shaw > > Lecturer in South Asian Archaeology > > Institute of Archaeology UCL > > 31-34 Gordon Square > > London WC1H 0PY > > > > http://www.ucl.ac.uk/archaeology/people/staff/shaw > > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 19 May 2017 07:32:00 +0200 > From: Artur Karp > To: indology > Subject: [INDOLOGY] Ashokan Pillars' transport > Message-ID: > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Dear List, > > Has anyone studied - and written on - the mode of transport of A?okan > pillars out of the quarry in Chunar, dst. Mirzapur, Uttar Pradesh? > > The Firoz Shah Kotla Pillar (brought by Firoz from Ambala dst., Haryana) is > a sandstone monolith nearly 13 m. in height, and it weighs close to 27 > tons. > > Regards, > > Artur Karp (ret.) > Chair of South Asian Studies, > University of Warsaw > Polska > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julia.shaw at ucl.ac.uk Fri May 19 18:03:29 2017 From: julia.shaw at ucl.ac.uk (Shaw, Julia) Date: Fri, 19 May 17 18:03:29 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Ashokan Pillars' transport In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It is also on Researchgate.... so perhaps easiest to just request a full text version from the author. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/261791090_From_Stone_Quarry_to_Sculpturing_Workshop_A_Report_on_Archaeological_Investigations_around_Chunar_Varanasi_and_Sarnath_by_Vidula_Jayaswal >From Stone Quarry to Sculpturing Workshop. A Report on ... www.researchgate.net >From Stone Quarry to Sculpturing Workshop. A Report on Archaeological Investigations around Chunar, Varanasi and Sarnath by Vidula Jayaswal Dr Julia Shaw Lecturer in South Asian Archaeology Institute of Archaeology UCL 31-34 Gordon Square London WC1H 0PY http://www.ucl.ac.uk/archaeology/people/staff/shaw ________________________________ From: Artur Karp Sent: 19 May 2017 18:58:57 To: Shaw, Julia Cc: indology at list.indology.info Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Ashokan Pillars' transport Thank you, Julia. But - a pity. The link does not lead to the paper, one gets a view of some selected fragments, nothing more. Pity - again. But, anyway - getting the pillar out of the quarry, then - transporting it to the river, then - moving it onto a ship, then - getting it out of the ship, then - transporting it to the place of the final destination, then - setting it there --- a phantastically complicated technical/organizational enterprise. Says much more about the A?okan era than - I'd risk saying that - some enigmatic texts engraved on the pillar. Best wishes, Artur Polska 2017-05-19 19:43 GMT+02:00 Shaw, Julia via INDOLOGY >: Dear Artur Vidula Jayaswal (of BHU) has written on this. https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/From_Stone_Quarry_to_Sculpturing_Worksho.html?id=wwpuAAAAMAAJ&redir_esc=y [https://books.google.co.uk/books/content?id=wwpuAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&img=1&zoom=1&imgtk=AFLRE70j9foinfenz68PbTPi42J-3ANcbmbPshHZYcf0o3UbqqP4upaOBCk7NHGw5UsdLwUTqD6J0hQM3LdAvgqqrRKwiiof-VN27OPClIhf2ckPhLk78nQ] >From Stone Quarry to Sculpturing Workshop books.google.co.uk The recognitior of ancient stone quarries at chunar hills with dateble epigraphs was a startling discovery made by the author of this book, in the year 1990. the followup archaological field investigations around chunar and Varanasi, which were carried out between the years 1990 and 1994, have uncovered the entire process of stone carving which was prevalent during the historical period in the Ganga plains. Besides archaeological investigations, ethnological surveys were also carried out. As a result of which it has been possible, start from quarrying of stone carving process, start from quarrying of stone blocks, their transportation to the centres of utility-carving of the sculpturing centres and the main religious centres etc. Best wishes, Julia ---------------------- Dr Julia Shaw Lecturer in South Asian Archaeology Institute of Archaeology UCL 31-34 Gordon Square London WC1H 0PY http://www.ucl.ac.uk/archaeology/people/staff/shaw Message: 5 Date: Fri, 19 May 2017 07:32:00 +0200 From: Artur Karp > To: indology > Subject: [INDOLOGY] Ashokan Pillars' transport Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Dear List, Has anyone studied - and written on - the mode of transport of A?okan pillars out of the quarry in Chunar, dst. Mirzapur, Uttar Pradesh? The Firoz Shah Kotla Pillar (brought by Firoz from Ambala dst., Haryana) is a sandstone monolith nearly 13 m. in height, and it weighs close to 27 tons. Regards, Artur Karp (ret.) Chair of South Asian Studies, University of Warsaw Polska _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julia.shaw at ucl.ac.uk Fri May 19 18:08:33 2017 From: julia.shaw at ucl.ac.uk (Shaw, Julia) Date: Fri, 19 May 17 18:08:33 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Ashokan Pillars' transport In-Reply-To: Message-ID: There is further discussion of this issue in Nayanjot Lahiri's Ashoka in Ancient India, Harvard University Press (2015, esp. p. 241), Julia ________________________________ From: Shaw, Julia Sent: 19 May 2017 19:03:29 To: Artur Karp Cc: indology at list.indology.info Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Ashokan Pillars' transport It is also on Researchgate.... so perhaps easiest to just request a full text version from the author. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/261791090_From_Stone_Quarry_to_Sculpturing_Workshop_A_Report_on_Archaeological_Investigations_around_Chunar_Varanasi_and_Sarnath_by_Vidula_Jayaswal >From Stone Quarry to Sculpturing Workshop. A Report on ... www.researchgate.net >From Stone Quarry to Sculpturing Workshop. A Report on Archaeological Investigations around Chunar, Varanasi and Sarnath by Vidula Jayaswal Dr Julia Shaw Lecturer in South Asian Archaeology Institute of Archaeology UCL 31-34 Gordon Square London WC1H 0PY http://www.ucl.ac.uk/archaeology/people/staff/shaw ________________________________ From: Artur Karp Sent: 19 May 2017 18:58:57 To: Shaw, Julia Cc: indology at list.indology.info Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Ashokan Pillars' transport Thank you, Julia. But - a pity. The link does not lead to the paper, one gets a view of some selected fragments, nothing more. Pity - again. But, anyway - getting the pillar out of the quarry, then - transporting it to the river, then - moving it onto a ship, then - getting it out of the ship, then - transporting it to the place of the final destination, then - setting it there --- a phantastically complicated technical/organizational enterprise. Says much more about the A?okan era than - I'd risk saying that - some enigmatic texts engraved on the pillar. Best wishes, Artur Polska 2017-05-19 19:43 GMT+02:00 Shaw, Julia via INDOLOGY >: Dear Artur Vidula Jayaswal (of BHU) has written on this. https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/From_Stone_Quarry_to_Sculpturing_Worksho.html?id=wwpuAAAAMAAJ&redir_esc=y [https://books.google.co.uk/books/content?id=wwpuAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&img=1&zoom=1&imgtk=AFLRE70j9foinfenz68PbTPi42J-3ANcbmbPshHZYcf0o3UbqqP4upaOBCk7NHGw5UsdLwUTqD6J0hQM3LdAvgqqrRKwiiof-VN27OPClIhf2ckPhLk78nQ] >From Stone Quarry to Sculpturing Workshop books.google.co.uk The recognitior of ancient stone quarries at chunar hills with dateble epigraphs was a startling discovery made by the author of this book, in the year 1990. the followup archaological field investigations around chunar and Varanasi, which were carried out between the years 1990 and 1994, have uncovered the entire process of stone carving which was prevalent during the historical period in the Ganga plains. Besides archaeological investigations, ethnological surveys were also carried out. As a result of which it has been possible, start from quarrying of stone carving process, start from quarrying of stone blocks, their transportation to the centres of utility-carving of the sculpturing centres and the main religious centres etc. Best wishes, Julia ---------------------- Dr Julia Shaw Lecturer in South Asian Archaeology Institute of Archaeology UCL 31-34 Gordon Square London WC1H 0PY http://www.ucl.ac.uk/archaeology/people/staff/shaw Message: 5 Date: Fri, 19 May 2017 07:32:00 +0200 From: Artur Karp > To: indology > Subject: [INDOLOGY] Ashokan Pillars' transport Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Dear List, Has anyone studied - and written on - the mode of transport of A?okan pillars out of the quarry in Chunar, dst. Mirzapur, Uttar Pradesh? The Firoz Shah Kotla Pillar (brought by Firoz from Ambala dst., Haryana) is a sandstone monolith nearly 13 m. in height, and it weighs close to 27 tons. Regards, Artur Karp (ret.) Chair of South Asian Studies, University of Warsaw Polska _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karp at uw.edu.pl Fri May 19 18:54:39 2017 From: karp at uw.edu.pl (Artur Karp) Date: Fri, 19 May 17 20:54:39 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Ashokan Pillars' transport In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I find mentions of the Chunar quarry also in Lars Fogelin's "An Archaeological History of Indian Buddhism", pp. 86-89, 91. He does not go into details of the transport, but calls it - and rightly! - "a massive undertaking": >> The quarrying, transport, and fnishing of the pillars signify a massive undertaking by the Mauryan state. (87) Artur 2017-05-19 20:08 GMT+02:00 Shaw, Julia : > There is further discussion of this issue in Nayanjot Lahiri's *Ashoka in > Ancient India*, Harvard University Press (2015, esp. p. 241), > > Julia > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Shaw, Julia > *Sent:* 19 May 2017 19:03:29 > *To:* Artur Karp > > *Cc:* indology at list.indology.info > *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] Ashokan Pillars' transport > > > It is also on Researchgate.... so perhaps easiest to just request a full > text version from the author. > > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/261791090_From_ > Stone_Quarry_to_Sculpturing_Workshop_A_Report_on_ > Archaeological_Investigations_around_Chunar_Varanasi_and_ > Sarnath_by_Vidula_Jayaswal > From Stone Quarry to Sculpturing Workshop. A Report on ... > > www.researchgate.net > From Stone Quarry to Sculpturing Workshop. A Report on Archaeological > Investigations around Chunar, Varanasi and Sarnath by Vidula Jayaswal > > > Dr Julia Shaw > > Lecturer in South Asian Archaeology > > Institute of Archaeology UCL > > 31-34 Gordon Square > > London WC1H 0PY > > > > http://www.ucl.ac.uk/archaeology/people/staff/shaw > ------------------------------ > *From:* Artur Karp > *Sent:* 19 May 2017 18:58:57 > *To:* Shaw, Julia > *Cc:* indology at list.indology.info > *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] Ashokan Pillars' transport > > Thank you, Julia. > > But - a pity. The link does not lead to the paper, one gets a view of some > selected fragments, nothing more. Pity - again. > > But, anyway - > > getting the pillar out of the quarry, then - transporting it to the > river, then - moving it onto a ship, then - getting it out of the ship, > then - transporting it to the place of the final destination, then - > setting it there --- a phantastically complicated technical/organizational > enterprise. > > Says much more about the A?okan era than - I'd risk saying that - some > enigmatic texts engraved on the pillar. > > Best wishes, > > Artur > Polska > > 2017-05-19 19:43 GMT+02:00 Shaw, Julia via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info>: > >> Dear Artur >> >> Vidula Jayaswal (of BHU) has written on this. >> >> https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/From_Stone_Quarry_to_ >> Sculpturing_Worksho.html?id=wwpuAAAAMAAJ&redir_esc=y >> >> >> From Stone Quarry to Sculpturing Workshop >> >> books.google.co.uk >> The recognitior of ancient stone quarries at chunar hills with dateble >> epigraphs was a startling discovery made by the author of this book, in the >> year 1990. the followup archaological field investigations around chunar >> and Varanasi, which were carried out between the years 1990 and 1994, have >> uncovered the entire process of stone carving which was prevalent during >> the historical period in the Ganga plains. Besides archaeological >> investigations, ethnological surveys were also carried out. As a result of >> which it has been possible, start from quarrying of stone carving process, >> start from quarrying of stone blocks, their transportation to the centres >> of utility-carving of the sculpturing centres and the main religious >> centres etc. >> >> >> Best wishes, Julia >> >> ---------------------- >> >> Dr Julia Shaw >> >> Lecturer in South Asian Archaeology >> >> Institute of Archaeology UCL >> >> 31-34 Gordon Square >> >> London WC1H 0PY >> >> >> >> http://www.ucl.ac.uk/archaeology/people/staff/shaw >> >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Fri, 19 May 2017 07:32:00 +0200 >> From: Artur Karp >> To: indology >> Subject: [INDOLOGY] Ashokan Pillars' transport >> Message-ID: >> > ail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Dear List, >> >> Has anyone studied - and written on - the mode of transport of A?okan >> pillars out of the quarry in Chunar, dst. Mirzapur, Uttar Pradesh? >> >> The Firoz Shah Kotla Pillar (brought by Firoz from Ambala dst., Haryana) >> is >> a sandstone monolith nearly 13 m. in height, and it weighs close to 27 >> tons. >> >> Regards, >> >> Artur Karp (ret.) >> Chair of South Asian Studies, >> University of Warsaw >> Polska >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Harry Falk From karp at uw.edu.pl Sat May 20 20:00:37 2017 From: karp at uw.edu.pl (Artur Karp) Date: Sat, 20 May 17 22:00:37 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Ashokan Pillars' transport In-Reply-To: <50207.79.210.104.103.1495274727.webmail@webmail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: Dear Harry, I am ashamed; I have the book, you presented it to me personally three years ago, while in Warsaw. I should have checked it for the info re: Chunar. You mention there 'old road rollers'. My technological imagination is very scant --- were these stone 'drums' used to transport bigger, heavier pieces out of the quarry? In what way? Respects, Artur Karp Polska 2017-05-20 12:05 GMT+02:00 Harry Falk via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info>: > On transport see also my Asokan Sites and Artefacts, Mainz 2006: 142. > I can only warn to use Cunningham's term "Chunar sandstone" without > consideration of other and better suited quarry sites, cf. ASA: 154 ff. > with a discussion of Dr Jayaswal's model and Mukherjee's "readings". > Harry Falk > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ashok.aklujkar at gmail.com Sun May 21 23:37:50 2017 From: ashok.aklujkar at gmail.com (Ashok Aklujkar) Date: Sun, 21 May 17 16:37:50 -0700 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Rivista degli Studi Orientali Message-ID: <70F1934D-F5BD-4337-8037-3E6B0B240419@gmail.com> In a recent post on the Indology forum, I had written (with members from India principally in mind) that the RSO ?may not be easily accessible?. Prof. Raffaele Torella, thereafter, informed me that ?RSO is easily available on JSTOR starting from the first issue (1907).? 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The work consists of three strands: A series of ancient Tamil sutras, Nakk?rar?s explication of those sutras, and the elegantly beautiful ancient court poems he has chosen to illustrate his points.In so doing he lays out the prescribed conventions that govern the composition and appreciation of /akam/, or ?interior? poems?often called ?love? poems?and their literary contexts, as well as the critical apparatus that has structured commentaries by classical Tamil scholars down through the centuries, including the current era. This translation was done collaboratively by David C. Buck and the late K. Paramasivam, and originally published in 1997. The revised edition revisits notes from the first edition, and includes a new Introduction that brings the work up to date and places the Tamil original more firmly in its historical context. ** *Keywords: *I?aiya??r, Akapporu?, stolen love, Nakk?rar, Ka?aviyal, sangam *About the translators* *David C. Buck*has been translating Tamil works into English since 1965. His publications include a number of collaborations with the late Dr. K. Paramasivam, including this translation of /I?aiya??r Akapporu? /with Nakk?rar?s commentary, as well as a significant amount of Sangam poetry. He has also published a translation, with comments, of /Tirukku???la-k- Ku?ava?ci /and a translation with notes of the /Song of P?mp???i-c-Cittar./ More recently he has published a number of translations from contemporary Tamil literature, most notably /Tamil Dalit Literature: My Own Experience/ in collaboration with Kannan M. of the French Institute of Pondicherry. David C. Buck is an Associate Professor Emeritus at Elizabethtown Community and Technical College in Kentucky, USA. ** *K. Paramasivam*, Ph.D. (Chicago), authored numerous books and articles on Tamil language and linguistics in both Tamil and English, as well as translating over 20 English classics into Tamil, but the real strength of his legacy lies in the minds and hearts of his many, many grateful students. He taught Tamil at various colleges in Tamil Nadu, most recently and for the longest period of time at the American College in Madurai, until he became the head of the Tamil language program of the American Institute of Indian Studies in Madurai. He passed away in 1992. *To order, contact:* *Institut Fran?ais de Pondich?ry * P. B. 33, 11, St. Louis Street,,, Pondicherry-605001, INDIA Ph: +91-413-2231660 / 661. Fax: +91 413-2231605, E-mail: _library at ifpindia.org _** -- Ms. Anurupa Naik Head, Library and Publication Division French Institute of Pondicherry (IFP) UMIFRE 21 CNRS-MAEE P.B. 33 11, St. Louis Street Pondicherry-605 001, INDIA Tel: 91-413-2231660 Fax: 91-413-2231605 e-mail:anurupa.n at ifpindia.org website:www.ifpindia.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wujastyk at gmail.com Mon May 22 05:43:52 2017 From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Sun, 21 May 17 23:43:52 -0600 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Patanjali in the Puranas? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Further to the idea about the mythical "three patanjalis", please, *please* everyone note that *there is no medical Patanjali. **There does not exist a major author of a medical treatise in Sanskrit who is called Patanjali*. If you wish to pursue the details, the name has been investigated in detail by Meulenbeld in his *History of Indian Medical Literature* (especially IA: 141-44, 196). As a person's name in medical literature, "Patanjali" lives a ghostly life as a name cited by others, as a legendary authority, as a person after whom recipes are named, etc. etc. Most of these occurrences are from the second millennium of our era, and after the first "three Patanjalis" assertion by Bhoja Deva. But even with these "Patanjali" whispers, it remains the fact that there does not exist an identifiable medical treatise by an author called Patanjali. I'm sorry to shout. But it baffles me to see the continuing repetition of the idea that there was a medical Patanjali when there simply wasn't one. Never has been. Fake News! Best, Dominik ? -- Professor Dominik Wujastyk ?,? Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity ?,? Department of History and Classics ?,? University of Alberta, Canada ?.? South Asia at the U of A: ?sas.ualberta.ca? ?? On 15 May 2017 at 23:00, Ashok Aklujkar via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Not taking the subject specification above rigidly, I would like to make > three points: > (a) Even in studying stories one should try to ascertain if they pertain > to Vy?kara?a Pata?jali, Yoga Pata?jali or ? ?yurveda Pata?jali. > (b) The tradition of the identity of these three Pata?jalis may be older > than it is usually taken to be. > (c) In three interlinked articles published in the book mentioned below, I > have made a case for taking the Vy?kara?a Pata?jali as a person belonging > to Kashmir. I have also pointed out that the epithet Gonard?ya ( Gonand?ya) definitely applies to this Pata?jali and that the epithet > Go?ik?-putra may also contain historical information about him. Much > history can be gleaned if the stories are cautiously handled. > > Aklujkar, Ashok. 2008. (a) ?Pata~jali?s Mah?bh??ya as a key to > happy Kashmir.? (b) ?Gonard?ya, Go?ik?-putra, Pata?jali and Gonand?ya.? (c) > ?Pata?jali: a Kashmirian.? Pp. 41-87, 88-172 and 173-205, respectively in > Linguistic Traditions of Kashmir, (eds) Kaul, Mrinal; Aklujkar, Ashok. New > Delhi: D.K. Printworld. > > a.a. > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edbryant at rci.rutgers.edu Mon May 22 07:37:29 2017 From: edbryant at rci.rutgers.edu (edbryant at rci.rutgers.edu) Date: Mon, 22 May 17 03:37:29 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Patanjali and Vishnu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <97f8357516e587b233804535caa0a7c2.squirrel@webmail.rci.rutgers.edu> I am away from my desk and do not have my Bhoja commentary at hand, but I am assuming Bhoja is quoting those two verses, yes, rather than composing them (in other words they preexisted him)? Or is this not clear from the Sanskrit? If Bhoja is quoting an older reference then this is the terminus ad quem of the notion of the 'three Patanjali's' howsoever ghostly the Ayurvedic one turns out to be. While on the topic, zeSa in the Vaishnava literature is a derivative form of Vishnu. So the second of the two Patanjali verses can be seen as pointing to an association of Patanjali with Vishnu going back at least that far. A couple of questions here: given that while Vishnu bears a zaNkha and cakra, he does not hold a sword, asi, in normative iconographical representations, does anyone know of any Vishnu forms bearing one (I assume only these three items (zaNkkacakrAsi dhArinam) are mentioned in the verse due to metrical considerations). And, secondly, are there any Saivite references at this time associating zeSA WITH ziva?. Thanks. Edwin Bryant > Further to the idea about the mythical "three patanjalis", please, > *please* > everyone note that *there is no medical Patanjali. **There does not exist > a major author of a medical treatise in Sanskrit who is called Patanjali*. > > If you wish to pursue the details, the name has been investigated in > detail > by Meulenbeld in his *History of Indian Medical Literature* (especially > IA: > 141-44, 196). As a person's name in medical literature, "Patanjali" lives > a ghostly life as a name cited by others, as a legendary authority, as a > person after whom recipes are named, etc. etc. Most of these occurrences > are from the second millennium of our era, and after the first "three > Patanjalis" assertion by Bhoja Deva. But even with these "Patanjali" > whispers, it remains the fact that there does not exist an identifiable > medical treatise by an author called Patanjali. > > I'm sorry to shout. But it baffles me to see the continuing repetition of > the idea that there was a medical Patanjali when there simply wasn't one. > Never has been. Fake News! > > Best, > Dominik > > > ??? > -- > Professor Dominik Wujastyk > ???,??? > > Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity > ???,??? > > Department of History and Classics > > ???,??? > University of Alberta, Canada > ???.??? > > South Asia at the U of A: > > ???sas.ualberta.ca??? > ?????? > > > On 15 May 2017 at 23:00, Ashok Aklujkar via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Not taking the subject specification above rigidly, I would like to make >> three points: >> (a) Even in studying stories one should try to ascertain if they pertain >> to Vy??kara???a Pata??jali, Yoga Pata??jali or ?? ??yurveda Pata??jali. >> (b) The tradition of the identity of these three Pata??jalis may be >> older >> than it is usually taken to be. >> (c) In three interlinked articles published in the book mentioned below, >> I >> have made a case for taking the Vy??kara???a Pata??jali as a person >> belonging >> to Kashmir. I have also pointed out that the epithet Gonard??ya (> Gonand??ya) definitely applies to this Pata??jali and that the epithet >> Go???ik??-putra may also contain historical information about him. Much >> history can be gleaned if the stories are cautiously handled. >> >> Aklujkar, Ashok. 2008. (a) ???Pata~jali???s Mah??bh?????ya as a >> key to >> happy Kashmir.??? (b) ???Gonard??ya, Go???ik??-putra, Pata??jali and >> Gonand??ya.??? (c) >> ???Pata??jali: a Kashmirian.??? Pp. 41-87, 88-172 and 173-205, >> respectively in >> Linguistic Traditions of Kashmir, (eds) Kaul, Mrinal; Aklujkar, Ashok. >> New >> Delhi: D.K. Printworld. >> >> a.a. >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) From vjroebuck at btinternet.com Mon May 22 07:59:05 2017 From: vjroebuck at btinternet.com (Valerie Roebuck) Date: Mon, 22 May 17 08:59:05 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Patanjali and Vishnu In-Reply-To: <97f8357516e587b233804535caa0a7c2.squirrel@webmail.rci.rutgers.edu> Message-ID: <51A373AF-32EA-4F72-BBD7-19C3F64458DC@btinternet.com> The Kalki Avat?ra of Vi??u is depicted with a sword. Valerie J Roebuck Manchester, UK > On 22 May 2017, at 08:37, Edwin F. Bryant via INDOLOGY wrote: > > > > > I am away from my desk and do not have my Bhoja commentary at hand, but I > am assuming Bhoja is quoting those two verses, yes, rather than composing > them (in other words they preexisted him)? Or is this not clear from the > Sanskrit? If Bhoja is quoting an older reference then this is the > terminus ad quem of the notion of the 'three Patanjali's' howsoever > ghostly the Ayurvedic one turns out to be. > > While on the topic, zeSa in the Vaishnava literature is a derivative form > of Vishnu. So the second of the two Patanjali verses can be seen as > pointing to an association of Patanjali with Vishnu going back at least > that far. A couple of questions here: given that while Vishnu bears a > zaNkha and cakra, he does not hold a sword, asi, in normative > iconographical representations, does anyone know of any Vishnu forms > bearing one (I assume only these three items (zaNkkacakrAsi dhArinam) are > mentioned in the verse due to metrical considerations). And, secondly, > are there any Saivite references at this time associating zeSA WITH > ziva?. > > Thanks. Edwin Bryant > > > > > >> Further to the idea about the mythical "three patanjalis", please, >> *please* >> everyone note that *there is no medical Patanjali. **There does not exist >> a major author of a medical treatise in Sanskrit who is called Patanjali*. >> >> If you wish to pursue the details, the name has been investigated in >> detail >> by Meulenbeld in his *History of Indian Medical Literature* (especially >> IA: >> 141-44, 196). As a person's name in medical literature, "Patanjali" lives >> a ghostly life as a name cited by others, as a legendary authority, as a >> person after whom recipes are named, etc. etc. Most of these occurrences >> are from the second millennium of our era, and after the first "three >> Patanjalis" assertion by Bhoja Deva. But even with these "Patanjali" >> whispers, it remains the fact that there does not exist an identifiable >> medical treatise by an author called Patanjali. >> >> I'm sorry to shout. But it baffles me to see the continuing repetition of >> the idea that there was a medical Patanjali when there simply wasn't one. >> Never has been. Fake News! >> >> Best, >> Dominik >> >> >> ??? >> -- >> Professor Dominik Wujastyk >> ???,??? >> >> Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity >> ???,??? >> >> Department of History and Classics >> >> ???,??? >> University of Alberta, Canada >> ???.??? >> >> South Asia at the U of A: >> >> ???sas.ualberta.ca??? >> ?????? >> >> >> On 15 May 2017 at 23:00, Ashok Aklujkar via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >>> Not taking the subject specification above rigidly, I would like to make >>> three points: >>> (a) Even in studying stories one should try to ascertain if they pertain >>> to Vy??kara???a Pata??jali, Yoga Pata??jali or ?? ??yurveda Pata??jali. >>> (b) The tradition of the identity of these three Pata??jalis may be >>> older >>> than it is usually taken to be. >>> (c) In three interlinked articles published in the book mentioned below, >>> I >>> have made a case for taking the Vy??kara???a Pata??jali as a person >>> belonging >>> to Kashmir. I have also pointed out that the epithet Gonard??ya (>> Gonand??ya) definitely applies to this Pata??jali and that the epithet >>> Go???ik??-putra may also contain historical information about him. Much >>> history can be gleaned if the stories are cautiously handled. >>> >>> Aklujkar, Ashok. 2008. (a) ???Pata~jali???s Mah??bh?????ya as a >>> key to >>> happy Kashmir.??? (b) ???Gonard??ya, Go???ik??-putra, Pata??jali and >>> Gonand??ya.??? (c) >>> ???Pata??jali: a Kashmirian.??? Pp. 41-87, 88-172 and 173-205, >>> respectively in >>> Linguistic Traditions of Kashmir, (eds) Kaul, Mrinal; Aklujkar, Ashok. >>> New >>> Delhi: D.K. Printworld. >>> >>> a.a. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>> committee) >>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >>> unsubscribe) >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From buescherhartmut at gmail.com Mon May 22 09:04:48 2017 From: buescherhartmut at gmail.com (Hartmut Buescher) Date: Mon, 22 May 17 11:04:48 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Patanjali in the Puranas? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Given the easily understandable relative ? in India perhaps even close to absolute ? inaccessibility of Meulenbeld?s extremely valuable (yet also megacostly) *History of Indian Medical Literature*, while the popular name Pata?jali creeps around somewhere in almost every Indologist?s mind, it may presumably be useful to more generally share on this list the few pertinent pages of discussion in this Mah?pa??ita?s *magnum opus* ? cf. attachment. Kind regards, Hartmut Buescher . On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 7:43 AM, Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Further to the idea about the mythical "three patanjalis", please, > *please* everyone note that *there is no medical Patanjali. **There does > not exist a major author of a medical treatise in Sanskrit who is called > Patanjali*. > > If you wish to pursue the details, the name has been investigated in > detail by Meulenbeld in his *History of Indian Medical Literature* > (especially IA: 141-44, 196). As a person's name in medical literature, > "Patanjali" lives a ghostly life as a name cited by others, as a legendary > authority, as a person after whom recipes are named, etc. etc. Most of > these occurrences are from the second millennium of our era, and after the > first "three Patanjalis" assertion by Bhoja Deva. But even with these > "Patanjali" whispers, it remains the fact that there does not exist an > identifiable medical treatise by an author called Patanjali. > > I'm sorry to shout. But it baffles me to see the continuing repetition of > the idea that there was a medical Patanjali when there simply wasn't one. > Never has been. Fake News! > > Best, > Dominik > > > ? > -- > Professor Dominik Wujastyk > ?,? > > Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity > ?,? > > Department of History and Classics > > ?,? > University of Alberta, Canada > ?.? > > South Asia at the U of A: > > ?sas.ualberta.ca? > ?? > > > On 15 May 2017 at 23:00, Ashok Aklujkar via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Not taking the subject specification above rigidly, I would like to make >> three points: >> (a) Even in studying stories one should try to ascertain if they pertain >> to Vy?kara?a Pata?jali, Yoga Pata?jali or ? ?yurveda Pata?jali. >> (b) The tradition of the identity of these three Pata?jalis may be older >> than it is usually taken to be. >> (c) In three interlinked articles published in the book mentioned below, >> I have made a case for taking the Vy?kara?a Pata?jali as a person belonging >> to Kashmir. I have also pointed out that the epithet Gonard?ya (> Gonand?ya) definitely applies to this Pata?jali and that the epithet >> Go?ik?-putra may also contain historical information about him. Much >> history can be gleaned if the stories are cautiously handled. >> >> Aklujkar, Ashok. 2008. (a) ?Pata~jali?s Mah?bh??ya as a key to >> happy Kashmir.? (b) ?Gonard?ya, Go?ik?-putra, Pata?jali and Gonand?ya.? (c) >> ?Pata?jali: a Kashmirian.? Pp. 41-87, 88-172 and 173-205, respectively in >> Linguistic Traditions of Kashmir, (eds) Kaul, Mrinal; Aklujkar, Ashok. New >> Delhi: D.K. 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In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <114FB1FD-A65D-474F-B38D-A3AE1448EEA4@uclouvain.be> Thank you much for the copy of Meulenbeld's pages providing us with probably all the references available at the time of their writing. I would add Harimoto's brief comment in "God, Reason and Yoga" (2014) p. 215, about the famous ("widely known among the grammarians" - and in this respect quoted for instance in the introductory colophons of several Mah?bh??ya mss., and by various commentators, not only on the YS like Vij??nabhik?u) stanza which is also found in the final (post-)colophons of the YVi mss.: yogena cittasya padena v?c?? mala? ?ar?rasya tu vaidyakena | yo 'p?karot ta? pravara? mun?n?? pata?jali? pr??jalir ?nato 'smi || This "multi-shared/"floating" stanza could be older than the statement found in the introductory stanza (5, 6 or 7) of Bhoja's commentary on the YS (which allows Bhoja to declare that he too has composed in the three fields), or the introductory stanza (3) of Cakrap??i's commentary on the CarakaS (quoted by Woods 1977: xix). Going back to Aklujkar's point 'b', it should be noted that according to Meulenbeld himself (p. 143) "Bhart?hari's V?kyapad?ya contains a verse that obviously also refers to Pata?jali as a threefold authority, though without mentioning his name". See : k?ya-v?g-buddhi-vi?ay? ye mal?? samavasthit?? / cikits?lak?a??dhy?tma-??strais te??? vi?uddhaya? // VP 1.174 // and Biardeau 1964 (pp. 186-7) for the text (and French translation) of the old v?tti (ad 1.146 in her edition), which also does not refer namely to Pata?jali (and does not ascertain that adhy?tma-??stra means here yoga-??stra, as it has been understood by later commentators; the "v?k-ceto-vapu??? mala? pha?ibh?t?? bhartr?_iva yena_uddh?ta?..." of Bhojadeva sounds in its beginning like an echo of Bhart?hari's stanza, with the use of the word bhart? [of the serpents = Pata?jali] possibly evoking in a pun also the name of the author of the VP). Dominik's statement that Bhoja's assertion is the first clearly attested one remains nevertheless not contradicted by Meulenbeld's mere opinion (not shared by Biardeau) on Bhart?hari's stanza. The parallelism traced by Meulenbeld between the "multifaceted" legendary figures of N?g?rjuna and Pata?jali, both "Lords of serpents", is interesting. Best wishes, Christophe Vielle Le 22 mai 2017 ? 11:04, Hartmut Buescher via INDOLOGY a ?crit : > Given the easily understandable relative ? in India perhaps > even close to absolute ? inaccessibility of Meulenbeld?s extremely valuable > (yet also megacostly) History of Indian Medical Literature, while the popular name > Pata?jali creeps around somewhere in almost every Indologist?s mind, > it may presumably be useful to more generally share on this list > the few pertinent pages of discussion in this Mah?pa??ita?s magnum opus ? cf. attachment. > > Kind regards, > Hartmut Buescher > > On 22 May 2017, at 08:37, Edwin F. Bryant via INDOLOGY wrote: > > > I am away from my desk and do not have my Bhoja commentary at hand, but I > am assuming Bhoja is quoting those two verses, yes, rather than composing > them (in other words they preexisted him)? Or is this not clear from the > Sanskrit? If Bhoja is quoting an older reference then this is the > terminus ad quem of the notion of the 'three Patanjali's' howsoever > ghostly the Ayurvedic one turns out to be. > > While on the topic, zeSa in the Vaishnava literature is a derivative form > of Vishnu. So the second of the two Patanjali verses can be seen as > pointing to an association of Patanjali with Vishnu going back at least > that far. A couple of questions here: given that while Vishnu bears a > zaNkha and cakra, he does not hold a sword, asi, in normative > iconographical representations, does anyone know of any Vishnu forms > bearing one (I assume only these three items (zaNkkacakrAsi dhArinam) are > mentioned in the verse due to metrical considerations). And, secondly, > are there any Saivite references at this time associating zeSA WITH > ziva?. > > Thanks. Edwin Bryant > > On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 7:43 AM, Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY wrote: > Further to the idea about the mythical "three patanjalis", please, please everyone note that there is no medical Patanjali. There does not exist a major author of a medical treatise in Sanskrit who is called Patanjali. > > If you wish to pursue the details, the name has been investigated in detail by Meulenbeld in his History of Indian Medical Literature (especially IA: 141-44, 196). As a person's name in medical literature, "Patanjali" lives a ghostly life as a name cited by others, as a legendary authority, as a person after whom recipes are named, etc. etc. Most of these occurrences are from the second millennium of our era, and after the first "three Patanjalis" assertion by Bhoja Deva. But even with these "Patanjali" whispers, it remains the fact that there does not exist an identifiable medical treatise by an author called Patanjali. > > I'm sorry to shout. But it baffles me to see the continuing repetition of the idea that there was a medical Patanjali when there simply wasn't one. Never has been. Fake News! > > Best, > Dominik > > > ?-- > Professor Dominik Wujastyk?,? > Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity?,? > Department of History and Classics?,? > University of Alberta, Canada?.? > South Asia at the U of A: ?sas.ualberta.ca??? > > > On 15 May 2017 at 23:00, Ashok Aklujkar via INDOLOGY wrote: > Not taking the subject specification above rigidly, I would like to make three points: > (a) Even in studying stories one should try to ascertain if they pertain to Vy?kara?a Pata?jali, Yoga Pata?jali or?? ?yurveda Pata?jali. > (b) The tradition of the identity of these three Pata?jalis may be older than it is usually taken to be. > (c) In three interlinked articles published in the book mentioned below, I have made a case for taking the Vy?kara?a Pata?jali as a person belonging to Kashmir. I have also pointed out that the epithet Gonard?ya ( > Aklujkar, Ashok. 2008. (a) ?Pata~jali?s Mah?bh??ya as a key to happy Kashmir.? (b) ?Gonard?ya, Go?ik?-putra, Pata?jali and Gonand?ya.? (c) ?Pata?jali: a Kashmirian.? Pp. 41-87, 88-172 and 173-205, respectively in Linguistic Traditions of Kashmir, (eds) Kaul, Mrinal; Aklujkar, Ashok. New Delhi: D.K. Printworld. > > a.a. > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) ??????????????????? Christophe Vielle Louvain-la-Neuve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From buescherhartmut at gmail.com Mon May 22 21:08:25 2017 From: buescherhartmut at gmail.com (Hartmut Buescher) Date: Mon, 22 May 17 23:08:25 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Patanjali in the Puranas? In-Reply-To: <114FB1FD-A65D-474F-B38D-A3AE1448EEA4@uclouvain.be> Message-ID: >[... ]Meulenbeld's mere opinion (not shared by Biardeau) on Bhart?hari's stanza. It is neither shared by Wilhelm Rau (*Bhart?haris V?kyapad?ya*, 2002: 38) when he translates: ?Die Beseitigung der Beschmutzungen, welche sich auf K?rper, Rede und Erkenntnisverm?gen beziehen, findet [entsprechend] statt durch die Heilkunde, die Grammatik und das auf den ?tman bez?gliche Handbuch.? Though translating the phrase *cikits?lak?a??dhy?tma??strais* in a somewhat awkward manner, it is clear that there was no reference to any person/Pata?jali for him in VP I.174. Correctly, in my view, Rau rather emphasized the correlation between *k?yav?gbuddhi* and *cikits?lak?a??dhy?tma*, that is, when Bhart?hari expresses that each of the three modes of human existence ? the 3rd personal dimension of organic organisation (*k?ya*), the linguistic means of communication (*v?k*) in the intersubjective 2nd personal dimension, as well as first personal (self-referential) dimension of intelligent cognition ( *buddhi*) ? has its particular range of relevant means (elucidated in pertinent treatises) to remedy what's improper. HB . On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 5:53 PM, Christophe Vielle < christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be> wrote: > Thank you much for the copy of Meulenbeld's pages providing us with > probably all the references available at the time of their writing. I would > add Harimoto's brief comment in "God, Reason and Yoga" (2014) p. 215, > about the famous ("widely known among the grammarians" - and in this > respect quoted for instance in the introductory colophons of several > Mah?bh??ya mss., and by various commentators, not only on the YS like > Vij??nabhik?u) stanza which is also found in the final (post-)colophons > of the YVi mss.: > > yogena cittasya padena v?c?? mala? ?ar?rasya tu vaidyakena | > > yo 'p?karot ta? pravara? mun?n?? pata?jali? pr??jalir ?nato 'smi || > This "multi-shared/"floating" stanza could be older than the statement > found in the introductory stanza (5, 6 or 7) of Bhoja's commentary on the > YS (which allows Bhoja to declare that he too has composed in the three > fields), or the introductory stanza (3) of Cakrap??i's commentary on the > CarakaS (quoted by Woods > 1977: > xix). > Going back to Aklujkar's point 'b', it should be noted that according to > Meulenbeld himself (p. 143) "Bhart?hari's *V?kyapad?ya* contains a verse > that obviously also refers to Pata?jali as a threefold authority, though > without mentioning his name". > See : > > k?ya-v?g-buddhi-vi?ay? ye mal?? samavasthit?? / > cikits?lak?a??dhy?tma-??strais te??? vi?uddhaya? // VP 1.174 // > > and Biardeau 1964 > (pp. > 186-7) for the text (and French translation) of the old v?tti (ad 1.146 in > her edition), which also does not refer namely to Pata?jali (and does not > ascertain that adhy?tma-??stra means here yoga-??stra, as it has been > understood by later commentators; the "v?k-ceto-vapu??? mala? pha?ibh?t?? > bhartr?_iva yena_uddh?ta?..." of Bhojadeva sounds in its beginning like > an echo of Bhart?hari's stanza, with the use of the word bhart? [of the > serpents = Pata?jali] possibly evoking in a pun also the name of the author > of the VP). > Dominik's statement that Bhoja's assertion is the first clearly attested > one remains nevertheless not contradicted by Meulenbeld's mere opinion (not > shared by Biardeau) on Bhart?hari's stanza. > The parallelism traced by Meulenbeld between the "multifaceted" legendary > figures of N?g?rjuna and Pata?jali, both "Lords of serpents", is > interesting. > > Best wishes, > > Christophe Vielle > > Le 22 mai 2017 ? 11:04, Hartmut Buescher via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> a ?crit : > > Given the easily understandable relative ? in India perhaps > even close to absolute ? inaccessibility of Meulenbeld?s extremely > valuable > (yet also megacostly) *History of Indian Medical Literature*, while the > popular name > Pata?jali creeps around somewhere in almost every Indologist?s mind, > it may presumably be useful to more generally share on this list > the few pertinent pages of discussion in this Mah?pa??ita?s *magnum opus* > ? cf. attachment. > > Kind regards, > Hartmut Buescher > > On 22 May 2017, at 08:37, Edwin F. Bryant via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > > > I am away from my desk and do not have my Bhoja commentary at hand, but I > am assuming Bhoja is quoting those two verses, yes, rather than composing > them (in other words they preexisted him)? Or is this not clear from the > Sanskrit? If Bhoja is quoting an older reference then this is the > terminus ad quem of the notion of the 'three Patanjali's' howsoever > ghostly the Ayurvedic one turns out to be. > > While on the topic, zeSa in the Vaishnava literature is a derivative form > of Vishnu. So the second of the two Patanjali verses can be seen as > pointing to an association of Patanjali with Vishnu going back at least > that far. A couple of questions here: given that while Vishnu bears a > zaNkha and cakra, he does not hold a sword, asi, in normative > iconographical representations, does anyone know of any Vishnu forms > bearing one (I assume only these three items (zaNkkacakrAsi dhArinam) are > mentioned in the verse due to metrical considerations). And, secondly, > are there any Saivite references at this time associating zeSA WITH > ziva?. > > Thanks. Edwin Bryant > > > On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 7:43 AM, Dominik Wujastyk via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Further to the idea about the mythical "three patanjalis", please, >> *please* everyone note that *there is no medical Patanjali. **There >> does not exist a major author of a medical treatise in Sanskrit who is >> called Patanjali*. >> >> If you wish to pursue the details, the name has been investigated in >> detail by Meulenbeld in his *History of Indian Medical Literature* >> (especially IA: 141-44, 196). As a person's name in medical literature, >> "Patanjali" lives a ghostly life as a name cited by others, as a legendary >> authority, as a person after whom recipes are named, etc. etc. Most of >> these occurrences are from the second millennium of our era, and after the >> first "three Patanjalis" assertion by Bhoja Deva. But even with these >> "Patanjali" whispers, it remains the fact that there does not exist an >> identifiable medical treatise by an author called Patanjali. >> >> I'm sorry to shout. But it baffles me to see the continuing repetition >> of the idea that there was a medical Patanjali when there simply wasn't >> one. Never has been. Fake News! >> >> Best, >> Dominik >> >> >> ? >> -- >> Professor Dominik Wujastyk >> ?,? >> >> Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity >> ?,? >> >> Department of History and Classics >> >> ?,? >> University of Alberta, Canada >> ?.? >> >> South Asia at the U of A: >> >> ?sas.ualberta.ca? >> ?? >> >> >> On 15 May 2017 at 23:00, Ashok Aklujkar via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >>> Not taking the subject specification above rigidly, I would like to make >>> three points: >>> (a) Even in studying stories one should try to ascertain if they pertain >>> to Vy?kara?a Pata?jali, Yoga Pata?jali or ? ?yurveda Pata?jali. >>> (b) The tradition of the identity of these three Pata?jalis may be older >>> than it is usually taken to be. >>> (c) In three interlinked articles published in the book mentioned below, >>> I have made a case for taking the Vy?kara?a Pata?jali as a person belonging >>> to Kashmir. I have also pointed out that the epithet Gonard?ya (>> Gonand?ya) definitely applies to this Pata?jali and that the epithet >>> Go?ik?-putra may also contain historical information about him. Much >>> history can be gleaned if the stories are cautiously handled. >>> >>> Aklujkar, Ashok. 2008. (a) ?Pata~jali?s Mah?bh??ya as a key to >>> happy Kashmir.? (b) ?Gonard?ya, Go?ik?-putra, Pata?jali and Gonand?ya.? (c) >>> ?Pata?jali: a Kashmirian.? Pp. 41-87, 88-172 and 173-205, respectively in >>> Linguistic Traditions of Kashmir, (eds) Kaul, Mrinal; Aklujkar, Ashok. New >>> Delhi: D.K. 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URL: From ashok.aklujkar at gmail.com Tue May 23 13:33:57 2017 From: ashok.aklujkar at gmail.com (Ashok Aklujkar) Date: Tue, 23 May 17 06:33:57 -0700 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Place of Origin of Mandana and Vacaspati In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <019E4CEF-5B54-4560-B084-49F2AD01B42A@mail.ubc.ca> The ???kara-vijaya/digvijaya (8.1) texts and (therefore?) at least some modern accounts put Ma??ana-mi?ra in M?hi?mat? / Bihar. I have not studied the matter in detail. For V?caspati-mi?ra, I have heard Mithil? spoken of as his region. However, until the location of King N?ga mentioned by him in the concluding verses of the Bh?mat? is determined, a definite conclusion does not seem possible. I consider Kar???a(ka) as the best possibility in the present state of our knowledge. See my 2001 article, ?The prologue and epilogue verses of V?caspati-mi?ra-I." Rivista degli Studi Orientali 73: 105-130, which I had attached to my 15 May post. a.a. > On May 21, 2017, at 8:44 PM, Abhinav Anand via INDOLOGY > wrote: > > Dear List, > > Might somebody shed light on the place of origin of Mandana Mishra and Vacaspati Mishra? > > > With sincere regards, > > > Abhinav Anand > PhD Candidate > Department of Humanities and Social Sciences > Indian Institute of Technology (Indian School of Mines) > Dhanbad-826004, > Jharkhand, India. > > > Thanking you, > > With sincere regards, > > Abhinav Anand > Ph.D. Candidate > Department of Humanities and Social Sciences > Indian Institute of Technology (Indian School of Mines) > Dhanbad-826004, > Jharkhand, India. > Email Id- anandabhinav2009 at gmail.com > Mobile No.- +91 9654409939 _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I have not studied > the matter in detail. > > For V?caspati-mi?ra, I have heard Mithil? spoken of as his region. > However, until the location of King N?ga mentioned by him in the concluding > verses of the Bh?mat? is determined, a definite conclusion does not seem > possible. I consider Kar???a(ka) as the best possibility in the present > state of our knowledge. See my 2001 article, ?The prologue and epilogue > verses of V?caspati-mi?ra-I." *Rivista degli Studi Orientali *73: > 105-130, which I had attached to my 15 May post. > > a.a. > > > > > > On May 21, 2017, at 8:44 PM, Abhinav Anand via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > Dear List, > > Might somebody shed light on the place of origin of Mandana Mishra and Vacaspati > Mishra? > > > With sincere regards, > > > Abhinav Anand > PhD Candidate > Department of Humanities and Social Sciences > Indian Institute of Technology (Indian School of Mines) > Dhanbad-826004, > Jharkhand, India. > > > Thanking you, > > With sincere regards, > > Abhinav Anand > Ph.D. Candidate > Department of Humanities and Social Sciences > Indian Institute of Technology (Indian School of Mines) > Dhanbad-826004, > Jharkhand, India. > Email Id- anandabhinav2009 at gmail.com > Mobile No.- +91 9654409939 <096544%2009939> > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -- Thanking you, With sincere regards, Abhinav Anand Ph.D. Candidate Department of Humanities and Social Sciences Indian Institute of Technology (Indian School of Mines) Dhanbad-826004, Jharkhand, India. 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Yours, George Cardona From klaus.karttunen at helsinki.fi Wed May 24 10:06:33 2017 From: klaus.karttunen at helsinki.fi (Klaus Karttunen) Date: Wed, 24 May 17 13:06:33 +0300 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Help needed Message-ID: <8100CB9E-FC81-4C63-8010-E4DA363FC158@helsinki.fi> Dear colleagues, could anyone help me scanning a few pages or giving place where the text is found. I would like to see what lies behind a rather obscure reference to V. Bhattacharyya, The ?gama??stra of Gau?ap?da (Calcutta 1943), pp. LXXII-LXXIV. The book is not found in any libraries here. Best, Klaus Klaus Karttunen South Asian and Indoeuropean Studies Asian and African Studies, Department of World Cultures PL 59 (Unioninkatu 38 B) 00014 University of Helsinki, FINLAND Tel +358-(0)2941 4482418 Fax +358-(0)2941 22094 Klaus.Karttunen at helsinki.fi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From v.a.van.bijlert at vu.nl Wed May 24 10:54:19 2017 From: v.a.van.bijlert at vu.nl (Bijlert, V.A. van) Date: Wed, 24 May 17 10:54:19 +0000 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Gau=E1=B8=8Dap=C4=81da?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I had the same experience some years ago. Got an important article within a few minutes of asking. This is the digital age after all. Best wishes Victor ________________________________ Dr. Victor A. van Bijlert lecturer Indian religions and Sanskrit Faculty of Theology, Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam De Boelelaan 1105, NL-1081 HV Amsterdam, The Netherlands v.a.van.bijlert at vu.nl +31613184203 ________________________________ From: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] on behalf of Klaus Karttunen via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 12:51 PM To: Indology Subject: [INDOLOGY] Gau?ap?da Dear Colleagues, this is fantastic. In half an hour I got three ans?ers. My warmest thatnks to you, Antonio, Victor and Madhav. I well remember the time, when, with a problem like this, I should have visited the library, filled the distant loan order and wait for one or two weeks for the book to come. Best, Klaus Klaus Karttunen South Asian and Indoeuropean Studies Asian and African Studies, Department of World Cultures PL 59 (Unioninkatu 38 B) 00014 University of Helsinki, FINLAND Tel +358-(0)2941 4482418 Fax +358-(0)2941 22094 Klaus.Karttunen at helsinki.fi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wujastyk at gmail.com Wed May 24 12:57:09 2017 From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Wed, 24 May 17 14:57:09 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] [From the SARIT conference] MacClade documentation Message-ID: Here is the manual for version 3.08 of MacClade . ? -- Professor Dominik Wujastyk ?,? Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity ?,? Department of History and Classics ?,? University of Alberta, Canada ?.? South Asia at the U of A: ?sas.ualberta.ca? ?? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wujastyk at gmail.com Wed May 24 13:05:04 2017 From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Wed, 24 May 17 15:05:04 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Patanjali and Vishnu In-Reply-To: <51A373AF-32EA-4F72-BBD7-19C3F64458DC@btinternet.com> Message-ID: No, Bhoja composed the yogena cittasya padena v?c?m verse. They do not exist in earlier Sanskrit literature. There's a different couplet in Bhartrhari's Vakyapadiya that it somewhat suggestive of a similar idea, but Patanjali isn't mentioned and it's not clear to whom Bhartrhari is referring. Apologies that my remarks are laconic; I'm in a confererence. Best, Dominik ? -- Professor Dominik Wujastyk ?,? Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity ?,? Department of History and Classics ?,? University of Alberta, Canada ?.? South Asia at the U of A: ?sas.ualberta.ca? ?? On 22 May 2017 at 09:59, Valerie Roebuck wrote: > The Kalki Avat?ra of Vi??u is depicted with a sword. > > Valerie J Roebuck > Manchester, UK > > > > > On 22 May 2017, at 08:37, Edwin F. Bryant via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I am away from my desk and do not have my Bhoja commentary at hand, but I > > am assuming Bhoja is quoting those two verses, yes, rather than composing > > them (in other words they preexisted him)? Or is this not clear from the > > Sanskrit? If Bhoja is quoting an older reference then this is the > > terminus ad quem of the notion of the 'three Patanjali's' howsoever > > ghostly the Ayurvedic one turns out to be. > > > > While on the topic, zeSa in the Vaishnava literature is a derivative form > > of Vishnu. So the second of the two Patanjali verses can be seen as > > pointing to an association of Patanjali with Vishnu going back at least > > that far. A couple of questions here: given that while Vishnu bears a > > zaNkha and cakra, he does not hold a sword, asi, in normative > > iconographical representations, does anyone know of any Vishnu forms > > bearing one (I assume only these three items (zaNkkacakrAsi dhArinam) are > > mentioned in the verse due to metrical considerations). And, secondly, > > are there any Saivite references at this time associating zeSA WITH > > ziva?. > > > > Thanks. Edwin Bryant > > > > > > > > > > > >> Further to the idea about the mythical "three patanjalis", please, > >> *please* > >> everyone note that *there is no medical Patanjali. **There does not > exist > >> a major author of a medical treatise in Sanskrit who is called > Patanjali*. > >> > >> If you wish to pursue the details, the name has been investigated in > >> detail > >> by Meulenbeld in his *History of Indian Medical Literature* (especially > >> IA: > >> 141-44, 196). As a person's name in medical literature, "Patanjali" > lives > >> a ghostly life as a name cited by others, as a legendary authority, as a > >> person after whom recipes are named, etc. etc. Most of these > occurrences > >> are from the second millennium of our era, and after the first "three > >> Patanjalis" assertion by Bhoja Deva. But even with these "Patanjali" > >> whispers, it remains the fact that there does not exist an identifiable > >> medical treatise by an author called Patanjali. > >> > >> I'm sorry to shout. But it baffles me to see the continuing repetition > of > >> the idea that there was a medical Patanjali when there simply wasn't > one. > >> Never has been. Fake News! > >> > >> Best, > >> Dominik > >> > >> > >> ??? > >> -- > >> Professor Dominik Wujastyk DominikWujastyk> > >> ???,??? > >> > >> Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity > >> ???,??? > >> > >> Department of History and Classics > >> > >> ???,??? > >> University of Alberta, Canada > >> ???.??? > >> > >> South Asia at the U of A: > >> > >> ???sas.ualberta.ca??? > >> ?????? > >> > >> > >> On 15 May 2017 at 23:00, Ashok Aklujkar via INDOLOGY < > >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> > >>> Not taking the subject specification above rigidly, I would like to > make > >>> three points: > >>> (a) Even in studying stories one should try to ascertain if they > pertain > >>> to Vy? kara???a Pata??jali, Yoga Pata??jali or ?? ??yurveda Pata??jali. > >>> (b) The tradition of the identity of these three Pata??jalis may be > >>> older > >>> than it is usually taken to be. > >>> (c) In three interlinked articles published in the book mentioned > below, > >>> I > >>> have made a case for taking the Vy? kara???a Pata??jali as a person > >>> belonging > >>> to Kashmir. I have also pointed out that the epithet Gonard??ya ( >>> Gonand??ya) definitely applies to this Pata??jali and that the epithet > >>> Go???ik? -putra may also contain historical information about him. Much > >>> history can be gleaned if the stories are cautiously handled. > >>> > >>> Aklujkar, Ashok. 2008. (a) ???Pata~jali???s Mah? bh? ???ya as a > >>> key to > >>> happy Kashmir.?? (b) ???Gonard??ya, Go???ik? -putra, Pata??jali and > >>> Gonand??ya.?? (c) > >>> ???Pata??jali: a Kashmirian.?? Pp. 41-87, 88-172 and 173-205, > >>> respectively in > >>> Linguistic Traditions of Kashmir, (eds) Kaul, Mrinal; Aklujkar, Ashok. > >>> New > >>> Delhi: D.K. Printworld. > >>> > >>> a.a. > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> INDOLOGY mailing list > >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > >>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > >>> committee) > >>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options > or > >>> unsubscribe) > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> INDOLOGY mailing list > >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > >> committee) > >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options > or > >> unsubscribe) > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > INDOLOGY mailing list > > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options > or unsubscribe) > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From jon.peterson at mail.utoronto.ca Thu May 25 16:11:46 2017 From: jon.peterson at mail.utoronto.ca (Jonathan Peterson) Date: Thu, 25 May 17 16:11:46 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Rare Marathi Books online (Madhav Deshpande) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0FE525EB-6544-4C20-B041-38AFBDDBFA39@mail.utoronto.ca> Dear Madhav, Thank you for alerting us to this collection; it looks like a phenomenal archive of material. All the best, Jonathan Peterson University of Toronto On May 25, 2017, at 12:00 PM, indology-request at list.indology.info wrote: Rare Marathi Books online (Madhav Deshpande) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From olle.qvarnstrom at ctr.lu.se Thu May 25 18:26:36 2017 From: olle.qvarnstrom at ctr.lu.se (=?utf-8?Q?Olle_Qvarnstr=C3=B6m?=) Date: Thu, 25 May 17 18:26:36 +0000 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_Olle_Qvarnstr=C3=B6m_(Lund_University)?= Message-ID: <561ce52dca2e4942896e25dc51321817@ctr.lu.se> Dear colleagues! I would deeply appreciate if someone could provide me with a pdf-file of Badrinath Sastri's edition of Raghunatha Siroma?i's Kira?avaliprakasadidhiti (Benares: Princess of Wales Sarasvati Bhavana Texts 38, 1932) as well as bio-data of Badrinath Sastri. Thanks in advance! Olle Qvarnstr?m (Lund University) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dnreigle at gmail.com Thu May 25 18:46:26 2017 From: dnreigle at gmail.com (David and Nancy Reigle) Date: Thu, 25 May 17 12:46:26 -0600 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Olle_Qvarnstr=C3=B6m_(Lund_University)?= In-Reply-To: <561ce52dca2e4942896e25dc51321817@ctr.lu.se> Message-ID: Dear Olle, Some time ago I scanned and uploaded this text here: http://www.downloads.prajnaquest.fr/BookofDzyan/Sanskrit%20Hindu%20Texts/kiranavali_prakasa_didhiti_1932.pdf . Other related texts may be found at the same location. I do not know if this text is available at the Digital Library of India, but in any case my scan may be better resolution. I do not have any bio-data on Badrinath Sastri. Best regards, David Reigle Colorado, U.S.A. On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Olle Qvarnstr?m via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear colleagues! > > I would deeply appreciate if someone could provide me with a pdf-file of > Badrinath Sastri?s edition of Raghun?tha ?iroma?i?s *Kira??val?prak??ad?dhiti > *(Benares: Princess of Wales Sarasvati Bhavana Texts 38, 1932) as well as > bio-data of Badrinath Sastri. > > Thanks in advance! > > Olle Qvarnstr?m (Lund University) > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ondracka at ff.cuni.cz Thu May 25 18:53:04 2017 From: ondracka at ff.cuni.cz (=?utf-8?Q?Lubom=C3=ADr_Ondra=C4=8Dka?=) Date: Thu, 25 May 17 20:53:04 +0200 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Olle_Qvarnstr=C3=B6m_(Lund_University)?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20170525205304.b41584cd4f9c87d6ff7ed622@ff.cuni.cz> All volumes of the Saraswati Bhavana Texts Series are available on archive.org: https://archive.org/details/Saraswati_Bhavana_Texts_Series LO On Thu, 25 May 2017 12:46:26 -0600 David and Nancy Reigle via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear Olle, > > Some time ago I scanned and uploaded this text here: > http://www.downloads.prajnaquest.fr/BookofDzyan/Sanskrit%20Hindu%20Texts/kiranavali_prakasa_didhiti_1932.pdf > . > > Other related texts may be found at the same location. > > I do not know if this text is available at the Digital Library of India, > but in any case my scan may be better resolution. > > I do not have any bio-data on Badrinath Sastri. > > Best regards, > > David Reigle > Colorado, U.S.A. > > On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Olle Qvarnstr?m via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > > Dear colleagues! > > > > I would deeply appreciate if someone could provide me with a pdf-file of > > Badrinath Sastri?s edition of Raghun?tha ?iroma?i?s *Kira??val?prak??ad?dhiti > > *(Benares: Princess of Wales Sarasvati Bhavana Texts 38, 1932) as well as > > bio-data of Badrinath Sastri. > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > Olle Qvarnstr?m (Lund University) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > INDOLOGY mailing list > > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > > committee) > > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > > unsubscribe) > > From dnreigle at gmail.com Thu May 25 19:08:23 2017 From: dnreigle at gmail.com (David and Nancy Reigle) Date: Thu, 25 May 17 13:08:23 -0600 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Olle_Qvarnstr=C3=B6m_(Lund_University)?= In-Reply-To: <20170525205304.b41584cd4f9c87d6ff7ed622@ff.cuni.cz> Message-ID: Thanks, Lubomir. Very interesting. It looks like the scan of this particular volume at Archive.org is the scan that I made. Happy to see it more widely available. The original that I used to make the scan from is held at the library of the University of California at Los Angeles. My thanks to them and to Archive.org. Best regards, David Reigle Colorado, U.S.A. On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Lubom?r Ondra?ka wrote: > All volumes of the Saraswati Bhavana Texts Series are available on > archive.org: > https://archive.org/details/Saraswati_Bhavana_Texts_Series > LO > > > On Thu, 25 May 2017 12:46:26 -0600 > David and Nancy Reigle via INDOLOGY wrote: > > > Dear Olle, > > > > Some time ago I scanned and uploaded this text here: > > http://www.downloads.prajnaquest.fr/BookofDzyan/ > Sanskrit%20Hindu%20Texts/kiranavali_prakasa_didhiti_1932.pdf > > . > > > > Other related texts may be found at the same location. > > > > I do not know if this text is available at the Digital Library of India, > > but in any case my scan may be better resolution. > > > > I do not have any bio-data on Badrinath Sastri. > > > > Best regards, > > > > David Reigle > > Colorado, U.S.A. > > > > On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Olle Qvarnstr?m via INDOLOGY < > > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > > > > Dear colleagues! > > > > > > I would deeply appreciate if someone could provide me with a pdf-file > of > > > Badrinath Sastri?s edition of Raghun?tha ?iroma?i?s > *Kira??val?prak??ad?dhiti > > > *(Benares: Princess of Wales Sarasvati Bhavana Texts 38, 1932) as well > as > > > bio-data of Badrinath Sastri. > > > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > > > Olle Qvarnstr?m (Lund University) > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > INDOLOGY mailing list > > > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > > > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > > > committee) > > > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options > or > > > unsubscribe) > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mkapstei at uchicago.edu Fri May 26 06:34:48 2017 From: mkapstei at uchicago.edu (Matthew Kapstein) Date: Fri, 26 May 17 06:34:48 +0000 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Olle_Qvarnstr=C3=B6m_(Lund_University)?= In-Reply-To: <561ce52dca2e4942896e25dc51321817@ctr.lu.se> Message-ID: <82C3E42590D939418C74DD76B97DDED047C47117@xm-mbx-06-prod> Dear Olle, While this does not amount to "bio-data," I assume that Bhadrinath Sastri is the same person as Bhadrinath Sukla, the author of a remarkable multi-volume Hindi trans/commentary on the Sastra-varta-samuccaya of Haribhadra together with the Syadvada-kalpalata of Yasovijayagani (pub. Divya-darsan Trust, Vikrama samvat 2040). (This is available through the Jain elibrary, by the way.) 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Ancient India in its Wider World, University of Michigan 2008, footnote 3. And again in 2015, at: https://drambedkarbooks.com/2015/06/05/5th-june-in-dalit-history-dr-ambedkar-conferred-with-honorary-degree-of-doctor-of-laws-by-columbia-university/ (accessed on 25.V.2017) Which A?okan edict could Dr. Ambedkar have had in mind while claiming that A?oka "removed the idols of such deities"? Regards, Artur Karp (ret.) Katedra Azji Po?udniowej Instytut Orientalistyczny Uniwersytet Warszawski Polska -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vjroebuck at btinternet.com Fri May 26 07:18:30 2017 From: vjroebuck at btinternet.com (Valerie Roebuck) Date: Fri, 26 May 17 08:18:30 +0100 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Was_A=C5=9Boka_an_iconoclast=3F?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9C283574-8A41-41AC-9E6C-EC4102205B12@btinternet.com> The idea that image (?idol?) worship was common in A?oka's time is surely anachronistic. Valerie J Roebuck Manchester, UK > On 26 May 2017, at 07:46, Artur Karp via INDOLOGY wrote: > > Dear List, > > From B. R. Ambedkar's address to an international gathering at Colombo (on 5 June 1950): > > <> > > The address is quoted in Lella Karunyakara's "Modernisation of Buddhism. Contributions of Ambedkar and Dalai Lama-XIV" Gyan Publishing House, New Delhi 2002, p 225 - without any comment. > > It is quoted again - in a different context, but also without comment - in Himanshu Prabha Ray's "Interpreting the Mauryan Empire: Centralized State or Multiple Centres of Control", in: Grant Parker and Carla Sinopoli eds. Ancient India in its Wider World, University of Michigan 2008, footnote 3. > > And again in 2015, at: > > https://drambedkarbooks.com/2015/06/05/5th-june-in-dalit-history-dr-ambedkar-conferred-with-honorary-degree-of-doctor-of-laws-by-columbia-university/ (accessed on 25.V.2017) > > > > Which A?okan edict could Dr. Ambedkar have had in mind while claiming that A?oka "removed the idols of such deities"? > > > > Regards, > > > > Artur Karp (ret.) > > Katedra Azji Po?udniowej > > Instytut Orientalistyczny > > Uniwersytet Warszawski > > Polska > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com Fri May 26 14:29:02 2017 From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi) Date: Fri, 26 May 17 19:59:02 +0530 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Was_A=C5=9Boka_an_iconoclast=3F?= In-Reply-To: <9C283574-8A41-41AC-9E6C-EC4102205B12@btinternet.com> Message-ID: All the dates given to origins of idol worship in India are based on textual evidences only and have textual determinism underlying the dating method. If the Indian cultural strands such as the Vedic, which have early textual records do not indicate existence of idol worship in that strand, then it should be reasonable to suspect the source/origin of idol worship in the Indian cultural strands outside these textually recorded ones, i.e., folk cultural traditions outside the Vedic, Buddhist or Jain. Though the origin dates of cultural elements of these strands is difficult to establish with certainty, it is equally problematic to rule out a pre-Asokan date of origin of idol worship in these traditions as to conclusively settle a pre-Asokan date for the same. On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:48 PM, Valerie Roebuck via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > The idea that image (?idol?) worship was common in A?oka's time is surely > anachronistic. > > Valerie J Roebuck > Manchester, UK > > On 26 May 2017, at 07:46, Artur Karp via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > Dear List, > > From B. R. Ambedkar's address to an international gathering at Colombo (on > 5 June 1950): > > < deities also who were worshipped through the Brahmins. The priests who used > to go for worshipping these deities started influencing the affairs of the > State through the queens. Asoka after embracing Buddhism discontinued this > practice and removed the idols of such deities. Asoka said, "As I venerate > the Buddha, the Enlightened One, there is no need to worship any other > deity".>> > > The address is quoted in Lella Karunyakara's "Modernisation of Buddhism. > Contributions of Ambedkar and Dalai Lama-XIV" Gyan Publishing House, New > Delhi 2002, p 225 - without any comment. > > It is quoted again - in a different context, but also without comment - in > Himanshu Prabha Ray's "Interpreting the Mauryan Empire: Centralized State > or Multiple Centres of Control", in: Grant Parker and Carla Sinopoli eds. > Ancient India in its Wider World, University of Michigan 2008, footnote 3. > > And again in 2015, at: > > https://drambedkarbooks.com/2015/06/05/5th-june-in-dalit- > history-dr-ambedkar-conferred-with-honorary-degree-of- > doctor-of-laws-by-columbia-university/ (accessed on 25.V.2017) > > > Which A?okan edict could Dr. Ambedkar have had in mind while claiming that > A?oka "removed the idols of such deities"? > > > Regards, > > > Artur Karp (ret.) > > Katedra Azji Po?udniowej > > Instytut Orientalistyczny > > Uniwersytet Warszawski > > Polska > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cardonagj at verizon.net Fri May 26 15:06:04 2017 From: cardonagj at verizon.net (George Cardona) Date: Fri, 26 May 17 11:06:04 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] apology Message-ID: <085E30B3-989A-4A01-86DB-F7A9C0F14A68@verizon.net> Colleagues, My apology for accidentally sending to the list a message meant for an individual. George Cardona From karp at uw.edu.pl Fri May 26 15:14:31 2017 From: karp at uw.edu.pl (Artur Karp) Date: Fri, 26 May 17 17:14:31 +0200 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Was_A=C5=9Boka_an_iconoclast=3F?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: But, dear Nagaraj, is there anywhere in the corpus of A?okan edicts some phrase that could support Dr. Ambedkar's image of A?oka as an iconoclast, some mention of A?oka's iconoclastic act? Best, Artur Karp, Polska 2017-05-26 16:29 GMT+02:00 Nagaraj Paturi : > All the dates given to origins of idol worship in India are based on > textual evidences only and have textual determinism underlying the dating > method. > > If the Indian cultural strands such as the Vedic, which have early textual > records do not indicate existence of idol worship in that strand, then it > should be reasonable to suspect the source/origin of idol worship in the > Indian cultural strands outside these textually recorded ones, i.e., folk > cultural traditions outside the Vedic, Buddhist or Jain. > > Though the origin dates of cultural elements of these strands is difficult > to establish with certainty, it is equally problematic to rule out a > pre-Asokan date of origin of idol worship in these traditions as to > conclusively settle a pre-Asokan date for the same. > > On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:48 PM, Valerie Roebuck via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> The idea that image (?idol?) worship was common in A?oka's time is surely >> anachronistic. >> >> Valerie J Roebuck >> Manchester, UK >> >> On 26 May 2017, at 07:46, Artur Karp via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >> Dear List, >> >> From B. R. Ambedkar's address to an international gathering at Colombo >> (on 5 June 1950): >> >> <> deities also who were worshipped through the Brahmins. The priests who used >> to go for worshipping these deities started influencing the affairs of the >> State through the queens. Asoka after embracing Buddhism discontinued this >> practice and removed the idols of such deities. Asoka said, "As I venerate >> the Buddha, the Enlightened One, there is no need to worship any other >> deity".>> >> >> The address is quoted in Lella Karunyakara's "Modernisation of Buddhism. >> Contributions of Ambedkar and Dalai Lama-XIV" Gyan Publishing House, New >> Delhi 2002, p 225 - without any comment. >> >> It is quoted again - in a different context, but also without comment - >> in Himanshu Prabha Ray's "Interpreting the Mauryan Empire: Centralized >> State or Multiple Centres of Control", in: Grant Parker and Carla Sinopoli >> eds. Ancient India in its Wider World, University of Michigan 2008, >> footnote 3. >> >> And again in 2015, at: >> >> https://drambedkarbooks.com/2015/06/05/5th-june-in-dalit-his >> tory-dr-ambedkar-conferred-with-honorary-degree-of-doctor- >> of-laws-by-columbia-university/ (accessed on 25.V.2017) >> >> >> Which A?okan edict could Dr. Ambedkar have had in mind while claiming >> that A?oka "removed the idols of such deities"? >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> Artur Karp (ret.) >> >> Katedra Azji Po?udniowej >> >> Instytut Orientalistyczny >> >> Uniwersytet Warszawski >> >> Polska >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > > BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala > > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies > > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, > > (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com Fri May 26 15:39:24 2017 From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi) Date: Fri, 26 May 17 21:09:24 +0530 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Was_A=C5=9Boka_an_iconoclast=3F?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Artur-ji, Does your quote indicate that As'oka was an iconoclast? I do not know if Dr Ambedkar had the intention of creating an iconoclast image of As'oka. The sentence from the quote, "Buddhism discontinued this practice and removed the idols of such deities" shows that in Dr Ambedkar's view, 'idol' is different from 'deity'. "As I venerate the Buddha, the Enlightened One, there is no need to worship any other deity" is talking about deity not idol. Buddhism discontinued this practice. Which practice? "In India, like the village *deity* and national *deity*, there were family *deities* also who were worshipped through the Brahmins. The priests who used to go for worshipping these deities started influencing the affairs of the State through the queens" (highlighting mine) shows that the focus is on the deities not idols. The focus seems to be on how the practice that lead to 'the Brahmins influencing the Sate affairs through the queens' was stopped through the advent of Buddhism. Buddha , the Enlightened one, was an alternative to the deities not the idols. Since the deities were no longer venerated , their idols were removed. On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 8:44 PM, Artur Karp wrote: > But, dear Nagaraj, is there anywhere in the corpus of A?okan edicts some > phrase that could support Dr. Ambedkar's image of A?oka as an iconoclast, > some mention of A?oka's iconoclastic act? > > Best, > > Artur Karp, > Polska > > 2017-05-26 16:29 GMT+02:00 Nagaraj Paturi : > >> All the dates given to origins of idol worship in India are based on >> textual evidences only and have textual determinism underlying the dating >> method. >> >> If the Indian cultural strands such as the Vedic, which have early >> textual records do not indicate existence of idol worship in that strand, >> then it should be reasonable to suspect the source/origin of idol worship >> in the Indian cultural strands outside these textually recorded ones, i.e., >> folk cultural traditions outside the Vedic, Buddhist or Jain. >> >> Though the origin dates of cultural elements of these strands is >> difficult to establish with certainty, it is equally problematic to rule >> out a pre-Asokan date of origin of idol worship in these traditions as to >> conclusively settle a pre-Asokan date for the same. >> >> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 12:48 PM, Valerie Roebuck via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >>> The idea that image (?idol?) worship was common in A?oka's time is >>> surely anachronistic. >>> >>> Valerie J Roebuck >>> Manchester, UK >>> >>> On 26 May 2017, at 07:46, Artur Karp via INDOLOGY < >>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >>> >>> Dear List, >>> >>> From B. R. Ambedkar's address to an international gathering at Colombo >>> (on 5 June 1950): >>> >>> <>> deities also who were worshipped through the Brahmins. The priests who used >>> to go for worshipping these deities started influencing the affairs of the >>> State through the queens. Asoka after embracing Buddhism discontinued this >>> practice and removed the idols of such deities. Asoka said, "As I venerate >>> the Buddha, the Enlightened One, there is no need to worship any other >>> deity".>> >>> >>> The address is quoted in Lella Karunyakara's "Modernisation of Buddhism. >>> Contributions of Ambedkar and Dalai Lama-XIV" Gyan Publishing House, New >>> Delhi 2002, p 225 - without any comment. >>> >>> It is quoted again - in a different context, but also without comment - >>> in Himanshu Prabha Ray's "Interpreting the Mauryan Empire: Centralized >>> State or Multiple Centres of Control", in: Grant Parker and Carla Sinopoli >>> eds. Ancient India in its Wider World, University of Michigan 2008, >>> footnote 3. >>> >>> And again in 2015, at: >>> >>> https://drambedkarbooks.com/2015/06/05/5th-june-in-dalit-his >>> tory-dr-ambedkar-conferred-with-honorary-degree-of-doctor-of >>> -laws-by-columbia-university/ (accessed on 25.V.2017) >>> >>> >>> Which A?okan edict could Dr. Ambedkar have had in mind while claiming >>> that A?oka "removed the idols of such deities"? >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> >>> Artur Karp (ret.) >>> >>> Katedra Azji Po?udniowej >>> >>> Instytut Orientalistyczny >>> >>> Uniwersytet Warszawski >>> >>> Polska >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>> committee) >>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >>> or unsubscribe) >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>> committee) >>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >>> or unsubscribe) >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Nagaraj Paturi >> >> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >> >> >> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra >> >> BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala >> >> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies >> >> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >> >> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) >> >> >> >> > > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mkapstei at uchicago.edu Fri May 26 16:21:08 2017 From: mkapstei at uchicago.edu (Matthew Kapstein) Date: Fri, 26 May 17 16:21:08 +0000 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Was_A=C5=9Boka_an_iconoclast=3F?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <82C3E42590D939418C74DD76B97DDED047C47295@xm-mbx-06-prod> I have no idea about just what Dr. Ambedkar may have had in mind in regard to Asoka, but I do think that the question of the emergence of images and idols in India should be empirically focused. See, for instance, Michael Willis, The Archeology of Hindu Ritual: Temples and the Establishment of the Gods (Cambridge 2009). Although Willis prudently avoids the question of beginnings, some interesting suggestions may be gleaned from section 2.7 "From Private Sacrifice to Public Spectacle," pp. 113-122. One may also wish to consult, for evidence of deity-worship in early Buddhism, Robert DeCaroli, Haunting the Buddha: Indian Popular Religion and the Formation of Buddhism (OUP 2004). Matthew Matthew Kapstein Directeur d'?tudes, Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, The University of Chicago ________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karp at uw.edu.pl Fri May 26 16:44:46 2017 From: karp at uw.edu.pl (Artur Karp) Date: Fri, 26 May 17 18:44:46 +0200 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Was_A=C5=9Boka_an_iconoclast=3F?= In-Reply-To: <82C3E42590D939418C74DD76B97DDED047C47295@xm-mbx-06-prod> Message-ID: Dear Matthew, >> Asoka after embracing Buddhism discontinued this practice and removed the idols of such deities. The meanig of the sentence is clear. According to Dr. Ambedkar A?oka 'removed the idols of such deities'. Removed - gently? The problem is that no edict mentions A?oka stating: "As I venerate the Buddha, the Enlightened One, there is no need to worship any other deity". The question of 'the emergence of images and idols in India" apart what can be seen here is an example of falsification of historical record, done purposefully, with political agenda in mind. Artur 2017-05-26 18:21 GMT+02:00 Matthew Kapstein : > I have no idea about just what Dr. Ambedkar may have had in mind in regard > to Asoka, > but I do think that the question of the emergence of images and idols in > India should be empirically focused. > > See, for instance, Michael Willis, > The Archeology of Hindu Ritual: Temples and the Establishment of the Gods > (Cambridge 2009). > > Although Willis prudently avoids the question of beginnings, some > interesting suggestions may be gleaned > from section 2.7 "From Private Sacrifice to Public Spectacle," pp. > 113-122. > > One may also wish to consult, for evidence of deity-worship in early > Buddhism, Robert DeCaroli, > Haunting the Buddha: Indian Popular Religion and the Formation of Buddhism > (OUP 2004). > > Matthew > > Matthew Kapstein > Directeur d'?tudes, > Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes > > Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, > The University of Chicago > ------------------------------ > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com Fri May 26 17:46:23 2017 From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi) Date: Fri, 26 May 17 23:16:23 +0530 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Was_A=C5=9Boka_an_iconoclast=3F?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The theory that idol worship in Hinduism is a borrowing from the idol worship in Buddhism, if already made, or if can be made, leads to very interesting theoretical consequences: one of them being that the aspect of Hinduism that is attacked by all the anti-idolatory religions and all the anti-idolatry reformationist 'progressive' modern religious movements is borrowed into Hinduism from a cultural tradition that is liked by many modern 'progressive' movements for the 'progressive' aspects in it. On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 10:14 PM, Artur Karp wrote: > Dear Matthew, > > >> Asoka after embracing Buddhism discontinued this practice and removed > the idols of such deities. > > The meanig of the sentence is clear. According to Dr. Ambedkar A?oka > 'removed the idols of such deities'. > > Removed - gently? > > The problem is that no edict mentions A?oka stating: "As I venerate the > Buddha, the Enlightened One, there is no need to worship any other deity". > > The question of 'the emergence of images and idols in India" apart what > can be seen here is an example of falsification of historical record, done > purposefully, with political agenda in mind. > > Artur > > 2017-05-26 18:21 GMT+02:00 Matthew Kapstein : > >> I have no idea about just what Dr. Ambedkar may have had in mind in >> regard to Asoka, >> but I do think that the question of the emergence of images and idols in >> India should be empirically focused. >> >> See, for instance, Michael Willis, >> The Archeology of Hindu Ritual: Temples and the Establishment of the Gods >> (Cambridge 2009). >> >> Although Willis prudently avoids the question of beginnings, some >> interesting suggestions may be gleaned >> from section 2.7 "From Private Sacrifice to Public Spectacle," pp. >> 113-122. >> >> One may also wish to consult, for evidence of deity-worship in early >> Buddhism, Robert DeCaroli, >> Haunting the Buddha: Indian Popular Religion and the Formation of >> Buddhism (OUP 2004). >> >> Matthew >> >> Matthew Kapstein >> Directeur d'?tudes, >> Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes >> >> Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, >> The University of Chicago >> ------------------------------ >> >> > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. 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URL: From julia.shaw at ucl.ac.uk Sat May 27 20:28:56 2017 From: julia.shaw at ucl.ac.uk (Shaw, Julia) Date: Sat, 27 May 17 20:28:56 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Was A?oka an iconoclast? Message-ID: I suggest you have a look at the material on the Vasudeva - Samkarsana iconography within the pancaratra system of 3rd - 2nd century BC. This covers also some early Naga imagery, the earliest being aligned with Balarama iconography. Independent naga images are somewhat later. Some of the yaksas and yaksi sculptures are arguably Mauryan, certainly post-Mauryan (sorry for lack of diacritics... writing this on my phone). My 2004 Artibus Asiae article (updated in my 2007 book, Buddhist Landscapes in Central India, British Academy) provides detailed discussion and bibliography for the above. https://www.academia.edu/6618122/Naga_sculptures_in_Sanchi_s_archaeological_landscape_Buddhism_Vaisnavism_and_local_agricultural_cults_in_central_India_first_century_BCE_to_fifth_century_CE_2004_ [http://a.academia-assets.com/images/open-graph-icons/fb-paper.gif] Naga sculptures in Sanchi?s archaeological landscape: Buddhism, Vaisnavism and local agricultural cults in central India, first century BCE to fifth century CE (2004) www.academia.edu Naga sculptures in Sanchi?s archaeological landscape: Buddhism, Vaisnavism and local agricultural cults in central India, first century BCE to fifth century CE (2004) And of course there is the enormous assemblage of terracotta deities, as studied recently for example by Naman Ahuja, not to mention the even larger and more poorly understood iconographies embodied in early Indian rock art (see Neumayer for example). 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Dr Julia Shaw Lecturer in South Asian Archaeology Institute of Archaeology UCL 31-34 Gordon Square London WC1H 0PY http://www.ucl.ac.uk/archaeology/people/staff/shaw ________________________________ From: Shaw, Julia Sent: 27 May 2017 21:28 To: indology at list.indology.info Cc: Artur Karp Subject: Was A?oka an iconoclast? I suggest you have a look at the material on the Vasudeva - Samkarsana iconography within the pancaratra system of 3rd - 2nd century BC. This covers also some early Naga imagery, the earliest being aligned with Balarama iconography. Independent naga images are somewhat later. Some of the yaksas and yaksi sculptures are arguably Mauryan, certainly post-Mauryan (sorry for lack of diacritics... writing this on my phone). My 2004 Artibus Asiae article (updated in my 2007 book, Buddhist Landscapes in Central India, British Academy) provides detailed discussion and bibliography for the above. https://www.academia.edu/6618122/Naga_sculptures_in_Sanchi_s_archaeological_landscape_Buddhism_Vaisnavism_and_local_agricultural_cults_in_central_India_first_century_BCE_to_fifth_century_CE_2004_ [http://a.academia-assets.com/images/open-graph-icons/fb-paper.gif] Naga sculptures in Sanchi?s archaeological landscape: Buddhism, Vaisnavism and local agricultural cults in central India, first century BCE to fifth century CE (2004) www.academia.edu Naga sculptures in Sanchi?s archaeological landscape: Buddhism, Vaisnavism and local agricultural cults in central India, first century BCE to fifth century CE (2004) And of course there is the enormous assemblage of terracotta deities, as studied recently for example by Naman Ahuja, not to mention the even larger and more poorly understood iconographies embodied in early Indian rock art (see Neumayer for example). 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On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 2:09 AM, Shaw, Julia via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > ps > > There is evident overlap here with the banned hilltop festivals > (gir-agga-samajjan) mentioned in A?guttara Nik?ya II. 550, and Asoka?s > edicts nos. 1 and 9. For linkages with yak?as caitya in relation to > topographical and cultic patterns in Sanchi's wider archaeological > landscape, see Shaw 2007, 141-2. The following may also be helpful: Hardy, > E. 1903. ?Ueber den upsprung des samajja?, in Album Kern: opstellen > geschreven ter eere Van H.K. Kern hem aangeboden. Leiden: E. J. Brill, > 61-6. > > > Dr Julia Shaw > > Lecturer in South Asian Archaeology > > Institute of Archaeology UCL > > 31-34 Gordon Square > > London WC1H 0PY > > > > http://www.ucl.ac.uk/archaeology/people/staff/shaw > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Shaw, Julia > *Sent:* 27 May 2017 21:28 > *To:* indology at list.indology.info > *Cc:* Artur Karp > *Subject:* Was A?oka an iconoclast? > > > I suggest you have a look at the material on the Vasudeva - Samkarsana > iconography within the pancaratra system of 3rd - 2nd century BC. This > covers also some early Naga imagery, the earliest being aligned with > Balarama iconography. Independent naga images are somewhat later. Some of > the yaksas and yaksi sculptures are arguably Mauryan, certainly > post-Mauryan (sorry for lack of diacritics... writing this on my phone). > > My 2004 Artibus Asiae article (updated in my 2007 book, Buddhist > Landscapes in Central India, British Academy) provides detailed discussion > and bibliography for the above. > > https://www.academia.edu/6618122/Naga_sculptures_in_ > Sanchi_s_archaeological_landscape_Buddhism_Vaisnavism_ > and_local_agricultural_cults_in_central_India_first_ > century_BCE_to_fifth_century_CE_2004_ > > > Naga sculptures in Sanchi?s archaeological landscape: Buddhism, Vaisnavism > and local agricultural cults in central India, first century BCE to fifth > century CE (2004) > > www.academia.edu > Naga sculptures in Sanchi?s archaeological landscape: Buddhism, Vaisnavism > and local agricultural cults in central India, first century BCE to fifth > century CE (2004) > > > And of course there is the enormous assemblage of terracotta deities, as > studied recently for example by Naman Ahuja, not to mention the even larger > and more poorly understood iconographies embodied in early Indian rock art > (see Neumayer for example). > > > Best wishes > > Julia > > > > > Dr Julia Shaw > > Lecturer in South Asian Archaeology > > Institute of Archaeology UCL > > 31-34 Gordon Square > > London WC1H 0PY > > > > http://www.ucl.ac.uk/archaeology/people/staff/shaw > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com Sun May 28 03:28:48 2017 From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi) Date: Sun, 28 May 17 08:58:48 +0530 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Was_A=C5=9Boka_an_iconoclast=3F?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Artur-ji, Dr Ambedkar's Asoka said, "As I venerate the Buddha, the Enlightened One, there is no need to worship any other deity" need not be taken too literally Asoka said it in so many words in an edict or such document. It is just a narration style, communicating the intention of a character behind his actions in the narrative by describing as though he expressed the intention. So looking for an edict or such document with these words or asking for such a document may not be a fruitful exercise. You say, "The question of 'the emergence of images and idols in India" apart what can be seen here is an example of falsification of historical record, done purposefully, with political agenda in mind." What do you think is the agenda ? To me, it all seems to be simple : 1. Whether the quoted words indicate replacement of older deities with Buddha, the Enlightened one or removal of idols is not clear. If the qoted words are to be interpreted as indicating removal of idols, then the logic is : Dr Ambedkar was opposed to idol worship. He liked Buddhism and Asoka. He thought his favorites Buddhism and Asoka were also like himself opposed to idol worship. 2. Dr Ambedkar's focus was on how Brahmin influence on State affairs, alleged and theorized by him as the result of belief of queens in Village deities etc., was reduced from the time of Asoka. On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 10:14 PM, Artur Karp wrote: > Dear Matthew, > > >> Asoka after embracing Buddhism discontinued this practice and removed > the idols of such deities. > > The meanig of the sentence is clear. According to Dr. Ambedkar A?oka > 'removed the idols of such deities'. > > Removed - gently? > > The problem is that no edict mentions A?oka stating: "As I venerate the > Buddha, the Enlightened One, there is no need to worship any other deity". > > The question of 'the emergence of images and idols in India" apart what > can be seen here is an example of falsification of historical record, done > purposefully, with political agenda in mind. > > Artur > > 2017-05-26 18:21 GMT+02:00 Matthew Kapstein : > >> I have no idea about just what Dr. Ambedkar may have had in mind in >> regard to Asoka, >> but I do think that the question of the emergence of images and idols in >> India should be empirically focused. >> >> See, for instance, Michael Willis, >> The Archeology of Hindu Ritual: Temples and the Establishment of the Gods >> (Cambridge 2009). >> >> Although Willis prudently avoids the question of beginnings, some >> interesting suggestions may be gleaned >> from section 2.7 "From Private Sacrifice to Public Spectacle," pp. >> 113-122. >> >> One may also wish to consult, for evidence of deity-worship in early >> Buddhism, Robert DeCaroli, >> Haunting the Buddha: Indian Popular Religion and the Formation of >> Buddhism (OUP 2004). >> >> Matthew >> >> Matthew Kapstein >> Directeur d'?tudes, >> Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes >> >> Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, >> The University of Chicago >> ------------------------------ >> >> > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. 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URL: From karp at uw.edu.pl Sun May 28 09:53:06 2017 From: karp at uw.edu.pl (Artur Karp) Date: Sun, 28 May 17 11:53:06 +0200 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Was_A=C5=9Boka_an_iconoclast=3F?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Colleagues, As far as I am concerned, falsification of historical evidence should be called by its proper term. . There is a difference between "he might have been" and "he was". A?oka's person is an object of sanctification, whatever the reasons behind it. His Edicts are routinely decontextualized. Dr. Ambedkar's statement, re: removal of idols, is a good example of such practice. Best, Artur K. 2017-05-28 5:28 GMT+02:00 Nagaraj Paturi : > Artur-ji, > > Dr Ambedkar's > > Asoka said, "As I venerate the Buddha, the Enlightened One, there is no > need to worship any other deity" > > need not be taken too literally Asoka said it in so many words in an edict > or such document. > > It is just a narration style, communicating the intention of a character > behind his actions in the narrative by describing as though he expressed > the intention. So looking for an edict or such document with these words or > asking for such a document may not be a fruitful exercise. > > You say, > > "The question of 'the emergence of images and idols in India" apart what > can be seen here is an example of falsification of historical record, done > purposefully, with political agenda in mind." > > What do you think is the agenda ? > > To me, it all seems to be simple : 1. Whether the quoted words indicate > replacement of older deities with Buddha, the Enlightened one or removal of > idols is not clear. > > If the qoted words are to be interpreted as indicating removal of idols, > then the logic is : Dr Ambedkar was opposed to idol worship. He liked > Buddhism and Asoka. He thought his favorites Buddhism and Asoka were also > like himself opposed to idol worship. > > 2. Dr Ambedkar's focus was on how Brahmin influence on State affairs, > alleged and theorized by him as the result of belief of queens in Village > deities etc., was reduced from the time of Asoka. > > On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 10:14 PM, Artur Karp wrote: > >> Dear Matthew, >> >> >> Asoka after embracing Buddhism discontinued this practice and removed >> the idols of such deities. >> >> The meanig of the sentence is clear. According to Dr. Ambedkar A?oka >> 'removed the idols of such deities'. >> >> Removed - gently? >> >> The problem is that no edict mentions A?oka stating: "As I venerate the >> Buddha, the Enlightened One, there is no need to worship any other deity". >> >> The question of 'the emergence of images and idols in India" apart what >> can be seen here is an example of falsification of historical record, done >> purposefully, with political agenda in mind. >> >> Artur >> >> 2017-05-26 18:21 GMT+02:00 Matthew Kapstein : >> >>> I have no idea about just what Dr. Ambedkar may have had in mind in >>> regard to Asoka, >>> but I do think that the question of the emergence of images and idols in >>> India should be empirically focused. >>> >>> See, for instance, Michael Willis, >>> The Archeology of Hindu Ritual: Temples and the Establishment of the >>> Gods (Cambridge 2009). >>> >>> Although Willis prudently avoids the question of beginnings, some >>> interesting suggestions may be gleaned >>> from section 2.7 "From Private Sacrifice to Public Spectacle," pp. >>> 113-122. >>> >>> One may also wish to consult, for evidence of deity-worship in early >>> Buddhism, Robert DeCaroli, >>> Haunting the Buddha: Indian Popular Religion and the Formation of >>> Buddhism (OUP 2004). >>> >>> Matthew >>> >>> Matthew Kapstein >>> Directeur d'?tudes, >>> Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes >>> >>> Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, >>> The University of Chicago >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > > BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala > > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies > > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, > > (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com Sun May 28 12:07:00 2017 From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi) Date: Sun, 28 May 17 17:37:00 +0530 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Was_A=C5=9Boka_an_iconoclast=3F?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear colleagues, Can you help me where I used the 'might have' expression? >His Edicts are routinely decontextualized. Dr. Ambedkar's statement, re: removal of idols, is a good example of such practice. -- Where in the quoted words of Dr Ambedkar is there a mention of any Asoka's edicts. Where is the indication in the quote that it is about edicts? At the most, Dr Ambedkar's words in the quote can be argued as making statements without providing a supporting a historical evidence. If it is established through historical evidences conclusively that Asoka did not remove deities or their idols, then the quote from Dr Ambedkar can be described as 'falsification of historical evidence'. On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 3:23 PM, Artur Karp wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > As far as I am concerned, falsification of historical evidence should be > called by its proper term. . > > There is a difference between "he might have been" and "he was". > > A?oka's person is an object of sanctification, whatever the reasons behind > it. His Edicts are routinely decontextualized. Dr. Ambedkar's statement, > re: removal of idols, is a good example of such practice. > > Best, > > Artur K. > > 2017-05-28 5:28 GMT+02:00 Nagaraj Paturi : > >> Artur-ji, >> >> Dr Ambedkar's >> >> Asoka said, "As I venerate the Buddha, the Enlightened One, there is no >> need to worship any other deity" >> >> need not be taken too literally Asoka said it in so many words in an >> edict or such document. >> >> It is just a narration style, communicating the intention of a character >> behind his actions in the narrative by describing as though he expressed >> the intention. So looking for an edict or such document with these words or >> asking for such a document may not be a fruitful exercise. >> >> You say, >> >> "The question of 'the emergence of images and idols in India" apart what >> can be seen here is an example of falsification of historical record, done >> purposefully, with political agenda in mind." >> >> What do you think is the agenda ? >> >> To me, it all seems to be simple : 1. Whether the quoted words indicate >> replacement of older deities with Buddha, the Enlightened one or removal of >> idols is not clear. >> >> If the qoted words are to be interpreted as indicating removal of idols, >> then the logic is : Dr Ambedkar was opposed to idol worship. He liked >> Buddhism and Asoka. He thought his favorites Buddhism and Asoka were also >> like himself opposed to idol worship. >> >> 2. Dr Ambedkar's focus was on how Brahmin influence on State affairs, >> alleged and theorized by him as the result of belief of queens in Village >> deities etc., was reduced from the time of Asoka. >> >> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 10:14 PM, Artur Karp wrote: >> >>> Dear Matthew, >>> >>> >> Asoka after embracing Buddhism discontinued this practice and removed >>> the idols of such deities. >>> >>> The meanig of the sentence is clear. According to Dr. Ambedkar A?oka >>> 'removed the idols of such deities'. >>> >>> Removed - gently? >>> >>> The problem is that no edict mentions A?oka stating: "As I venerate >>> the Buddha, the Enlightened One, there is no need to worship any other >>> deity". >>> >>> The question of 'the emergence of images and idols in India" apart what >>> can be seen here is an example of falsification of historical record, done >>> purposefully, with political agenda in mind. >>> >>> Artur >>> >>> 2017-05-26 18:21 GMT+02:00 Matthew Kapstein : >>> >>>> I have no idea about just what Dr. Ambedkar may have had in mind in >>>> regard to Asoka, >>>> but I do think that the question of the emergence of images and idols >>>> in India should be empirically focused. >>>> >>>> See, for instance, Michael Willis, >>>> The Archeology of Hindu Ritual: Temples and the Establishment of the >>>> Gods (Cambridge 2009). >>>> >>>> Although Willis prudently avoids the question of beginnings, some >>>> interesting suggestions may be gleaned >>>> from section 2.7 "From Private Sacrifice to Public Spectacle," pp. >>>> 113-122. >>>> >>>> One may also wish to consult, for evidence of deity-worship in early >>>> Buddhism, Robert DeCaroli, >>>> Haunting the Buddha: Indian Popular Religion and the Formation of >>>> Buddhism (OUP 2004). >>>> >>>> Matthew >>>> >>>> Matthew Kapstein >>>> Directeur d'?tudes, >>>> Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes >>>> >>>> Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, >>>> The University of Chicago >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Nagaraj Paturi >> >> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >> >> >> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra >> >> BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala >> >> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies >> >> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >> >> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) >> >> >> >> > > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com Sun May 28 18:35:37 2017 From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi) Date: Mon, 29 May 17 00:05:37 +0530 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Was_A=C5=9Boka_an_iconoclast=3F?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I am not trying to defend Dr Ambedkar or As'oka. I was just wishing accuracy in reading the spirit behind the quotes. Let me now try to make the following observations about he quote: 1. Village deities is a folk cultural aspect or an element of Indian folk religion. Most of the Indologists are aware of this fact and are aware of huge number of studies and publications about this. All those who know about this know that the village deity worship has no involvement of Brahmins. Typically traditionally a village deity's temple has only a non-Brahmin preist, as per the customs a female priest, rfrom communities such as potters or washermen. The festival time priest for these deities hails from a sub-caste of the tanner-cobbler caste. Brahmins being mentioned as associated with village deities in the quote is contradicting these facts. 2. What Dr Ambedkar meant by 'national deities' here is not clear to me. 3. Family deities probably is an English translation of kula devataas. In today's 'Hinduism', these deities come either from folk or classical tradition. Usually the rituals associated are at family level only.Unless it is an elaborate ritual to a classical family deity, Brahmins are not involved. Women themselves with a women group participation perform the worship rituals. 4. Whether there is an inscriptional evidence for this queens involving Brahmins for the worship of these deities or not, there are very clear evidences for the S'aatavaahana women donating to Buddhist monks while the same inscription mentioning the king to be such a staunch Vaidika that he performed 100 Vaajapeya yaagas. On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 5:37 PM, Nagaraj Paturi wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > Can you help me where I used the 'might have' expression? > > >His Edicts are routinely decontextualized. Dr. Ambedkar's statement, re: > removal of idols, is a good example of such practice. > > -- Where in the quoted words of Dr Ambedkar is there a mention of any > Asoka's edicts. Where is the indication in the quote that it is about > edicts? > > At the most, Dr Ambedkar's words in the quote can be argued as making > statements without providing a supporting a historical evidence. > > If it is established through historical evidences conclusively that Asoka > did not remove deities or their idols, then the quote from Dr Ambedkar can > be described as 'falsification of historical evidence'. > > > > On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 3:23 PM, Artur Karp wrote: > >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> As far as I am concerned, falsification of historical evidence should be >> called by its proper term. . >> >> There is a difference between "he might have been" and "he was". >> >> A?oka's person is an object of sanctification, whatever the reasons >> behind it. His Edicts are routinely decontextualized. Dr. Ambedkar's >> statement, re: removal of idols, is a good example of such practice. >> >> Best, >> >> Artur K. >> >> 2017-05-28 5:28 GMT+02:00 Nagaraj Paturi : >> >>> Artur-ji, >>> >>> Dr Ambedkar's >>> >>> Asoka said, "As I venerate the Buddha, the Enlightened One, there is no >>> need to worship any other deity" >>> >>> need not be taken too literally Asoka said it in so many words in an >>> edict or such document. >>> >>> It is just a narration style, communicating the intention of a character >>> behind his actions in the narrative by describing as though he expressed >>> the intention. So looking for an edict or such document with these words or >>> asking for such a document may not be a fruitful exercise. >>> >>> You say, >>> >>> "The question of 'the emergence of images and idols in India" apart >>> what can be seen here is an example of falsification of historical record, >>> done purposefully, with political agenda in mind." >>> >>> What do you think is the agenda ? >>> >>> To me, it all seems to be simple : 1. Whether the quoted words indicate >>> replacement of older deities with Buddha, the Enlightened one or removal of >>> idols is not clear. >>> >>> If the qoted words are to be interpreted as indicating removal of idols, >>> then the logic is : Dr Ambedkar was opposed to idol worship. He liked >>> Buddhism and Asoka. He thought his favorites Buddhism and Asoka were also >>> like himself opposed to idol worship. >>> >>> 2. Dr Ambedkar's focus was on how Brahmin influence on State affairs, >>> alleged and theorized by him as the result of belief of queens in Village >>> deities etc., was reduced from the time of Asoka. >>> >>> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 10:14 PM, Artur Karp wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Matthew, >>>> >>>> >> Asoka after embracing Buddhism discontinued this practice and >>>> removed the idols of such deities. >>>> >>>> The meanig of the sentence is clear. According to Dr. Ambedkar A?oka >>>> 'removed the idols of such deities'. >>>> >>>> Removed - gently? >>>> >>>> The problem is that no edict mentions A?oka stating: "As I venerate >>>> the Buddha, the Enlightened One, there is no need to worship any other >>>> deity". >>>> >>>> The question of 'the emergence of images and idols in India" apart what >>>> can be seen here is an example of falsification of historical record, done >>>> purposefully, with political agenda in mind. >>>> >>>> Artur >>>> >>>> 2017-05-26 18:21 GMT+02:00 Matthew Kapstein : >>>> >>>>> I have no idea about just what Dr. Ambedkar may have had in mind in >>>>> regard to Asoka, >>>>> but I do think that the question of the emergence of images and idols >>>>> in India should be empirically focused. >>>>> >>>>> See, for instance, Michael Willis, >>>>> The Archeology of Hindu Ritual: Temples and the Establishment of the >>>>> Gods (Cambridge 2009). >>>>> >>>>> Although Willis prudently avoids the question of beginnings, some >>>>> interesting suggestions may be gleaned >>>>> from section 2.7 "From Private Sacrifice to Public Spectacle," pp. >>>>> 113-122. >>>>> >>>>> One may also wish to consult, for evidence of deity-worship in early >>>>> Buddhism, Robert DeCaroli, >>>>> Haunting the Buddha: Indian Popular Religion and the Formation of >>>>> Buddhism (OUP 2004). >>>>> >>>>> Matthew >>>>> >>>>> Matthew Kapstein >>>>> Directeur d'?tudes, >>>>> Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes >>>>> >>>>> Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, >>>>> The University of Chicago >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Nagaraj Paturi >>> >>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >>> >>> >>> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra >>> >>> BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala >>> >>> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies >>> >>> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >>> >>> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > > BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala > > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies > > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, > > (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) > > > > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com Mon May 29 02:25:00 2017 From: hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com (Harry Spier) Date: Sun, 28 May 17 22:25:00 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Some incorrect entries in Muktabodha Digital Library Message-ID: Dear list members, Some incorrect entries in the Muktabodha Digital library have been reported to me by users and these have now been corrected. 1) In the searchable e-text library The entry for ?ivastotr?val? was the wrong text. This has now been corrected. 2) In the Paper Transcripts of the IFP collection of the IFP/EFEO manuscript bundle T0765 (beginning with rudrayamala mantravigrahakavaca) incorrectly said the manuscript was not uploaded. This has been fixed. 3) The entry for Vijnanabhairava with commentarries by Ksemaraja, Sivopadhyaya and Anandabhatta in addition to these texts also had the searchable text of a Vijnanabhairava manuscript from BHU. This Vijnanabhairava manuscript has been removed . (It is currently in the library under its own entry). This error was pointed out by Dr. Raphaele Torella several years ago and it somehow fell through the cracks. My apologies to Dr. Torella.for this delay. Note: in the IFP/EFEO collection there are some texts that when clicked say that the text has not been uploaded. This is a coding error and the text is actually there. I will be going through the collection fixing these errors over the next few days or week. 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At this point I have found only these works: On the Meaning of *jha?na *and *dhya?na *?Meditation? in Early Buddhism, the Moks?adharmaparvan of the *Maha?bha?rata *and in Classical Yoga Philosophy. P. Maas. Oberhammer, Gerhard. *Strukturen yogischer Meditation. Untersuchungen zur Spiritualit?t des Yoga. *Wien ?sterreichische Akademie der Wissenschaften, 1977, pp. 134?230 Bedekar, V. M. ?Dhya?nayoga in the Maha?bha?rata.? *Bha?rati?ya Vidya? *20?21 (1963): 116?125. Jan Gonda. The Vision of the Vedic Poets. 1963. p.392. I would be very grateful to you all for help on information and links to articles, research papers, monographs that include analyses of the term dhy?na or contexts it is used in. Best regards, Dmitry Danilov. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From uskokov at uchicago.edu Mon May 29 16:50:41 2017 From: uskokov at uchicago.edu (Aleksandar Uskokov) Date: Mon, 29 May 17 11:50:41 -0500 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]=09Please_help_with_articles_specifically_on_Dhy=C4=81na_in_context_of_philosophy_of_yoga.?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Dmitry, You could start by taking a good look at the recent "Roots of Yoga" by James Mallinson and Mark Singleton (Oxford University Press 2017), which includes an extensive bibliography. All best, Aleksandar On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Danilov Dmitry via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > Subject: Please help with articles specifically on Dhy?na in context of > philosophy of yoga. > > > > Dear list members, > > > I am at the beginning of my PhD research on Dhy?na in context of > philosophy of yoga. After collecting all the material needed from original > scriptures from early upani?ads to late ha?ha-yogic texts, I came to a > point of searching for academic papers analyzing the term. At this point I > have found only these works: > > > On the Meaning of *jha?na *and *dhya?na *?Meditation? in Early Buddhism, > the Moks?adharmaparvan of the *Maha?bha?rata *and in Classical Yoga > Philosophy. P. Maas. > > Oberhammer, Gerhard. *Strukturen yogischer Meditation. Untersuchungen zur > Spiritualit?t des Yoga. *Wien ?sterreichische Akademie der > Wissenschaften, 1977, pp. 134?230 > > Bedekar, V. M. ?Dhya?nayoga in the Maha?bha?rata.? *Bha?rati?ya Vidya? *20?21 > (1963): 116?125. > > Jan Gonda. The Vision of the Vedic Poets. 1963. p.392. > > > I would be very grateful to you all for help on information and links to > articles, research papers, monographs that include analyses of the term > dhy?na or contexts it is used in. > > > Best regards, > > Dmitry Danilov. > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From uskokov at uchicago.edu Mon May 29 16:51:50 2017 From: uskokov at uchicago.edu (Aleksandar Uskokov) Date: Mon, 29 May 17 11:51:50 -0500 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]=09Please_help_with_articles_specifically_on_Dhy=C4=81na_in_context_of_philosophy_of_yoga.?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sorry, not OUP but Penguin. On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Aleksandar Uskokov wrote: > Dear Dmitry, > > You could start by taking a good look at the recent "Roots of Yoga" by > James Mallinson and Mark Singleton (Oxford University Press 2017), which > includes an extensive bibliography. > > All best, > Aleksandar > > On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Danilov Dmitry via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> >> Subject: Please help with articles specifically on Dhy?na in context of >> philosophy of yoga. >> >> >> >> Dear list members, >> >> >> I am at the beginning of my PhD research on Dhy?na in context of >> philosophy of yoga. After collecting all the material needed from original >> scriptures from early upani?ads to late ha?ha-yogic texts, I came to a >> point of searching for academic papers analyzing the term. At this point I >> have found only these works: >> >> >> On the Meaning of *jha?na *and *dhya?na *?Meditation? in Early Buddhism, >> the Moks?adharmaparvan of the *Maha?bha?rata *and in Classical Yoga >> Philosophy. P. Maas. >> >> Oberhammer, Gerhard. *Strukturen yogischer Meditation. Untersuchungen >> zur Spiritualit?t des Yoga. *Wien ?sterreichische Akademie der >> Wissenschaften, 1977, pp. 134?230 >> >> Bedekar, V. M. ?Dhya?nayoga in the Maha?bha?rata.? *Bha?rati?ya Vidya? *20?21 >> (1963): 116?125. >> >> Jan Gonda. The Vision of the Vedic Poets. 1963. p.392. >> >> >> I would be very grateful to you all for help on information and links to >> articles, research papers, monographs that include analyses of the term >> dhy?na or contexts it is used in. >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Dmitry Danilov. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I recall, too, that Richard Gombrich reviewed the English version, when it appeared, very harshly for its (mis)treatment of Buddhist materials. So it should be used cautiously. However, because the range of reference is broad, it may point in some worthwhile directions nevertheless. Matthew Kapstein Directeur d'?tudes, Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, The University of Chicago ________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dr.rupalimokashi at gmail.com Mon May 29 17:10:12 2017 From: dr.rupalimokashi at gmail.com (Dr. Rupali Mokashi) Date: Mon, 29 May 17 22:40:12 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Iconography of Balarama Message-ID: Dear List members Is Iconography of Balarama by N P Joshi (1979) available as a pdf? regards Rupali Mokashi http://rupalimokashi.wordpress.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From philipp.a.maas at gmail.com Mon May 29 17:53:07 2017 From: philipp.a.maas at gmail.com (Philipp Maas) Date: Mon, 29 May 17 19:53:07 +0200 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]=09Please_help_with_articles_specifically_on_Dhy=C4=81na_in_context_of_philosophy_of_yoga.?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: As in many other cases, SARDS 3 (http://www.sards.uni-halle.de/?do=query) is a useful bibliographical tool. At present, it provides 58 search results for the key word "dhy?na." __________________________ Dr. Philipp A. Maas Research Associate Institut f?r Indologie und Zentralasienwissenschaften Universit?t Leipzig ___________________________ https://spp1448.academia.edu/PhilippMaas 2017-05-29 18:34 GMT+02:00 Danilov Dmitry via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info>: > > Subject: Please help with articles specifically on Dhy?na in context of > philosophy of yoga. > > > > Dear list members, > > > I am at the beginning of my PhD research on Dhy?na in context of > philosophy of yoga. After collecting all the material needed from original > scriptures from early upani?ads to late ha?ha-yogic texts, I came to a > point of searching for academic papers analyzing the term. At this point I > have found only these works: > > > On the Meaning of *jha?na *and *dhya?na *?Meditation? in Early Buddhism, > the Moks?adharmaparvan of the *Maha?bha?rata *and in Classical Yoga > Philosophy. P. Maas. > > Oberhammer, Gerhard. *Strukturen yogischer Meditation. Untersuchungen zur > Spiritualit?t des Yoga. *Wien ?sterreichische Akademie der > Wissenschaften, 1977, pp. 134?230 > > Bedekar, V. M. ?Dhya?nayoga in the Maha?bha?rata.? *Bha?rati?ya Vidya? *20?21 > (1963): 116?125. > > Jan Gonda. The Vision of the Vedic Poets. 1963. p.392. > > > I would be very grateful to you all for help on information and links to > articles, research papers, monographs that include analyses of the term > dhy?na or contexts it is used in. > > > Best regards, > > Dmitry Danilov. > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jknutson at hawaii.edu Mon May 29 20:50:37 2017 From: jknutson at hawaii.edu (Jesse Knutson) Date: Mon, 29 May 17 10:50:37 -1000 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_Saduktikar=E1=B9=87=C4=81m=E1=B9=9Bta,_Banerjee_ed.?= Message-ID: Dear Friends, Does anyone have a soft copy of Banerjee's ed. of the Saduktikar??m?ta? In a morbid joke of fate, my own copy is so ??????? that it is falling apart in my hands as I reread the sections on poverty (describing people's houses falling apart, etc.). I am getting ready to go on the road and don't think it can handle the journey. ????????? ?????, ??????, ?? -- Jesse Ross Knutson PhD Assistant Professor of Sanskrit and Bengali, Department of Indo-Pacific Languages and Literatures University of Hawai'i at M?noa 461 Spalding -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Jesse Knutson wrote: > Thanks to Manu Francis for solving my problem in under 12 minutes, and > sharing the following resource: > > http://garudam.info/files/Saduktikar%E1%B9%87%C4%81m%E1%B9%9Bta_all.txt > > -- > Jesse Ross Knutson PhD > Assistant Professor of Sanskrit and Bengali, Department of Indo-Pacific > Languages and Literatures > University of Hawai'i at M?noa > 461 Spalding > -- Jesse Ross Knutson PhD Assistant Professor of Sanskrit and Bengali, Department of Indo-Pacific Languages and Literatures University of Hawai'i at M?noa 461 Spalding -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wujastyk at gmail.com Tue May 30 00:48:52 2017 From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Mon, 29 May 17 18:48:52 -0600 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Survey about the SARIT service: please help! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Many thanks to everyone who answered the questionnaire! ? -- Professor Dominik Wujastyk ?,? Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity ?,? Department of History and Classics ?,? University of Alberta, Canada ?.? South Asia at the U of A: ?sas.ualberta.ca? ?? On 15 May 2017 at 14:58, Dominik Wujastyk wrote: > If you have a few minutes - I mean not more than about 10 - it would help > me a lot if you would be so kind as to answer this questionnaire > about the SARIT e-text library. > The purpose of the questionnaire is to see whether what SARIT offers is > actually what you, as an Indologist, want. And if not, what features you > find good, bad, or would like to see added to the SARIT service. > > This is a good chance for you to shape the future of SARIT! > > Best, and with many thanks for any time you kindly spend on this, > > Dominik Wujastyk > > > ? > -- > Professor Dominik Wujastyk > ?,? > > Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity > ?,? > > Department of History and Classics > > ?,? > University of Alberta, Canada > ?.? > > South Asia at the U of A: > > ?sas.ualberta.ca? > ?? > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From arlogriffiths at hotmail.com Tue May 30 05:31:21 2017 From: arlogriffiths at hotmail.com (Arlo Griffiths) Date: Tue, 30 May 17 05:31:21 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Maraharaja's College Magazine, Vizianagaram, vol. I (1922) Message-ID: Colleagues, I am looking for an article by K.V. Lakshmana Rao on a pair of copper-plate inscriptions found at Kanteru, published in one of the 1922 issues of the Maraharaja's College Magazine, Vizianagaram. Judging from the pdfs of vol. II available on archive.org (https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.382562, https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.490266 ? both apparently for the same contents, both times wrongly labeled) the issues for 1922 formed volume I. I am unable to access the DLI source pages for the above pdfs, and hence unable to see if I can get at the volume that I need. Would any one with greater DLI experience that I have, or with access to an exceptional research library that holds a physical copy of the Maraharaja's College Magazine, Vizianagaram, vol. I (1922), be able to help me obtain the article I need? Thank you. 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I am interested in examples of curses that precede birth or incarnation in Indian literature. Examples that spring to mind are Dharma being cursed to a human birth as Vidura or one of the Vasus, as Bh??ma in the Mah?bh?rata. Can anyone think of others? I am not fussy about tradition or period, I just want to compare a few examples. I have one other topic to raise. It is teachings given at night. I am interested in whether there are any family resemblances between teachings offered at night (in the most general of terms). Can anyone think of sources in which teachings are offered at night (as Vidura teaches Dh?tar???ra in the Udyogaparvan of the Mah?bh?rata, for example)? Thanks in anticipation to the wise and learned list! Best, James Hegarty Cardiff University From martingansten at gmail.com Tue May 30 15:50:43 2017 From: martingansten at gmail.com (Martin Gansten) Date: Tue, 30 May 17 17:50:43 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] The pre-natal/pre-incarnatory curse in Indian literature In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Regarding curses preceding incarnation, the following passage from Balabhadra's /H?yanaratna/ (1649, /pace/ Pingree, who says 1629) seems to fit the bill: * * * * * hill?jena tu brahmavi??urudramukhanirgata??pena yavanat?? pr?ptena ?r?s?rye?aiva yavana??strapra?ayan?d dvij?n?m api s?ryasiddh?ntavad etadadhyayana? yuktam ity uktam | ke?avi??umukhanirgata??p?n mlecchat?dhigatatigmamar?ce? | romake?a puri labdham a?e?a? tad dvij?dibhir ato ?dhyayan?yam || iti | puri romakapattane | But Hill?ja says [in /Hill?jad?pik? /1.6] that because the Yavana science was founded by the illustrious sun [god] himself, who had become a Yavana due to a curse issued from the mouths of Brahm?, Vi??u and Rudra, the study of this is proper even for the twice-born, like [the study of] the /S?ryasiddh?nta/: Romaka received this whole [science] in the city from the sun [god], who, by a curse issued from the mouths of Brahm?, ?iva and Vi??u, had attained the state of a foreigner (/mleccha/); therefore, it is fit to be studied by the twice-born and others. ?In the city? [means] in the city of Rome. * * * * * For teachings at night, what about the P??car?tra? Martin Gansten Den 2017-05-30 kl. 17:07, skrev James Hegarty via INDOLOGY: > Dear List, > > I would like to pick the list?s formidable collective Indological brain. > > I am interested in examples of curses that precede birth or incarnation in Indian literature. > > Examples that spring to mind are Dharma being cursed to a human birth as Vidura or one of the Vasus, as Bh??ma in the Mah?bh?rata. > > Can anyone think of others? I am not fussy about tradition or period, I just want to compare a few examples. > > I have one other topic to raise. It is teachings given at night. > > I am interested in whether there are any family resemblances between teachings offered at night (in the most general of terms). Can anyone think of sources in which teachings are offered at night (as Vidura teaches Dh?tar???ra in the Udyogaparvan of the Mah?bh?rata, for example)? > > Thanks in anticipation to the wise and learned list! > > Best, > > James Hegarty > Cardiff University > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com Tue May 30 18:17:00 2017 From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi) Date: Tue, 30 May 17 23:47:00 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] The pre-natal/pre-incarnatory curse in Indian literature In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Curse preceding/leading to birth is such an abundant motif in Indian narratives that the list may easily run into a few hundreds. Particularly because your range is so big, no bar on tradition or period. That makes it various forms of folk narratives such as fairy tales , legends etc. get included. Just in myth-lore or mythology itself the list is very big. The abundance of this is so big that I would imagine that it could have been the main or part focus of several researches and/or publications. I have been using a word meta-myth to refer to myths 'explaining' or linking or connecting myths. Narratives of curse leading to birth or incarnation are one variety of such myth-explaining or myth-linking myths. One very popular and significant instance of this is the curse to Jaya and Vijaya , the dvaarapaalaka-s of VaikunTha , to be born as Asuras in three different births. In the first, they are born as Hiranyakasipu and Hiranyaaksha. In the second, as RaavaNa and KumbhakarNa. In the third as S'is'upaala and Dantavaktra. The significance of this is that this narrative is key to the concept of Vaira Bhakti = devotion in the form of enmity. This I group under myth-explaining myths. Explanation in this case is vaira bhakti. Ramayana versions without the narrative of Jaya and Vijaya included or without the descrition of RaavaNa and KumbhakarNa as born due to curse, do exist. So we can say versions of Raama-RaavaNa story with the curse of Jaya Vijaya included can be seen as narratives explaining the version of the narrative without the curse aspect. Bhaagavata is the Purana which gives significance to this curse narrative. The post is already long. This can go on and on. I am sure almost every member remembers one or the other stories from Puranas and Itihasas. What I can add is from folk narratives. To see how medieval Indian poets exploited this for creating new narratives of great poetic skill, read the 16th century Telugu narrative epic poem Kalapurnodayam. I called the story of this as utpaadyapuraaNakatha in my PhD dissertation. English translation of this poetic work by Prof's David Shulman and Velcheru Narayana Rao is called "The Sound of Kiss". Available to buy. A huge and interesting area to explore if not explored previously. Best wishes, -N On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 9:20 PM, Martin Gansten via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Regarding curses preceding incarnation, the following passage from > Balabhadra's *H?yanaratna* (1649, *pace* Pingree, who says 1629) seems to > fit the bill: > > * * * * * > hill?jena tu brahmavi??urudramukhanirgata??pena yavanat?? pr?ptena > ?r?s?rye?aiva yavana??strapra?ayan?d dvij?n?m api s?ryasiddh?ntavad > etadadhyayana? yuktam ity uktam | > > ke?avi??umukhanirgata??p?n mlecchat?dhigatatigmamar?ce? | > romake?a puri labdham a?e?a? tad dvij?dibhir ato ?dhyayan?yam || iti | > > puri romakapattane | > > But Hill?ja says [in *Hill?jad?pik? *1.6] that because the Yavana science > was founded by the illustrious sun [god] himself, who had become a Yavana > due to a curse issued from the mouths of Brahm?, Vi??u and Rudra, the study > of this is proper even for the twice-born, like [the study of] the > *S?ryasiddh?nta*: > > Romaka received this whole [science] in the city from the sun [god], who, > by a curse issued from the mouths of Brahm?, ?iva and Vi??u, had attained > the state of a foreigner (*mleccha*); therefore, it is fit to be studied > by the twice-born and others. > > ?In the city? [means] in the city of Rome. > * * * * * > > For teachings at night, what about the P??car?tra? > > Martin Gansten > > > > Den 2017-05-30 kl. 17:07, skrev James Hegarty via INDOLOGY: > > Dear List, > > I would like to pick the list?s formidable collective Indological brain. > > I am interested in examples of curses that precede birth or incarnation in Indian literature. > > Examples that spring to mind are Dharma being cursed to a human birth as Vidura or one of the Vasus, as Bh??ma in the Mah?bh?rata. > > Can anyone think of others? I am not fussy about tradition or period, I just want to compare a few examples. > > I have one other topic to raise. It is teachings given at night. > > I am interested in whether there are any family resemblances between teachings offered at night (in the most general of terms). Can anyone think of sources in which teachings are offered at night (as Vidura teaches Dh?tar???ra in the Udyogaparvan of the Mah?bh?rata, for example)? > > Thanks in anticipation to the wise and learned list! > > Best, > > James Hegarty > Cardiff University > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing listINDOLOGY at list.indology.infoindology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee)http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lavanyavemsani at gmail.com Tue May 30 18:18:28 2017 From: lavanyavemsani at gmail.com (Lavanya Vemsani) Date: Tue, 30 May 17 14:18:28 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] CFP: American Journal of Indic Studies Message-ID: Hello All, I am happy to share the Call for Papers of our new journal, American Journal of Indic Studies. Please see below. Thank you. Lavanya Call for papers American Journal of Indic Studies ISSN 2573-2145 (Print) ISSN 2573-1939 (Online) Submissions open for the Inaugural Issue Volume 1 No 1 American Journal of Indic Studies (AJIS) is a peer-reviewed journal published by the American Academy of Indic Studies (AAIS). 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Contributions for subsequent volumes will be accepted on a rolling basis and considered on a first-come-first-serve basis for the next available upcoming volume. Please include brief bio with your submission. Send your manuscript and questions to the editor Dr. Lavanya Vemsani at: editor at AAIndicStudies.org Dr. Lavanya Vemsani Editor-in-Chief, American Journal of Indic Studies Professor, Department of Social Sciences, Shawnee State University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rpg at berkeley.edu Tue May 30 18:34:35 2017 From: rpg at berkeley.edu (Robert Goldman) Date: Tue, 30 May 17 11:34:35 -0700 Subject: [INDOLOGY] The pre-natal/pre-incarnatory curse in Indian literature In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi, Yes, there are many examples. One of the most striking, in my opinion, is the sage Vi?ravas? pre-natal, even pre-conception, curse of R?va?a, Kumbhakar?a and ??rpa?akh? to be monstrous because their mother-to be, Kaikas?, approached him at a bad time. The sage also prenatally blesses his future son Vibh??a?a to be virtuous. See the V?lm?ki R?maya?a (critical ed.) 7.9. 10?20. Of course there innumerable examples of figures being cursed to suffer nasty future births. Dr. R. P. Goldman Catherine and William L. Magistretti Distinguished Professor in South and Southeast Asian Studies Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies MC # 2540 The University of California at Berkeley Berkeley, CA 94720-2540 Tel: 510-642-4089 Fax: 510-642-2409 > On May 30, 2017, at 8:07 AM, James Hegarty via INDOLOGY wrote: > > Dear List, > > I would like to pick the list?s formidable collective Indological brain. > > I am interested in examples of curses that precede birth or incarnation in Indian literature. > > Examples that spring to mind are Dharma being cursed to a human birth as Vidura or one of the Vasus, as Bh??ma in the Mah?bh?rata. > > Can anyone think of others? I am not fussy about tradition or period, I just want to compare a few examples. > > I have one other topic to raise. It is teachings given at night. > > I am interested in whether there are any family resemblances between teachings offered at night (in the most general of terms). Can anyone think of sources in which teachings are offered at night (as Vidura teaches Dh?tar???ra in the Udyogaparvan of the Mah?bh?rata, for example)? > > Thanks in anticipation to the wise and learned list! > > Best, > > James Hegarty > Cardiff University > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From beitel at gwu.edu Tue May 30 21:10:49 2017 From: beitel at gwu.edu (Alfred Hiltebeitel) Date: Tue, 30 May 17 17:10:49 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] The pre-natal/pre-incarnatory curse in Indian literature In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I suppose Vyasa's words (are they a curse?) to Ambika and Ambalika would count as leading the blind and pale births of Dhrtrastra and Pandu.-Alf On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Robert Goldman via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Hi, > > Yes, there are many examples. One of the most striking, in my opinion, is > the sage Vi?ravas? pre-natal, even pre-conception, curse of R?va?a, > Kumbhakar?a and ??rpa?akh? to be monstrous because their mother-to be, > Kaikas?, approached him at a bad time. The sage also prenatally blesses > his future son Vibh??a?a to be virtuous. See the V?lm?ki R?maya?a (critical > ed.) 7.9. 10?20. > > Of course there innumerable examples of figures being cursed to suffer > nasty future births. > Dr. R. P. Goldman > Catherine and William L. Magistretti Distinguished Professor in South > and Southeast Asian Studies > Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies MC # 2540 > The University of California at Berkeley > Berkeley, CA 94720-2540 > Tel: 510-642-4089 <(510)%20642-4089> > Fax: 510-642-2409 <(510)%20642-2409> > > On May 30, 2017, at 8:07 AM, James Hegarty via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > > Dear List, > > I would like to pick the list?s formidable collective Indological brain. > > I am interested in examples of curses that precede birth or incarnation in > Indian literature. > > Examples that spring to mind are Dharma being cursed to a human birth as > Vidura or one of the Vasus, as Bh??ma in the Mah?bh?rata. > > Can anyone think of others? I am not fussy about tradition or period, I > just want to compare a few examples. > > I have one other topic to raise. It is teachings given at night. > > I am interested in whether there are any family resemblances between > teachings offered at night (in the most general of terms). Can anyone think > of sources in which teachings are offered at night (as Vidura teaches > Dh?tar???ra in the Udyogaparvan of the Mah?bh?rata, for example)? > > Thanks in anticipation to the wise and learned list! > > Best, > > James Hegarty > Cardiff University > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -- Alf Hiltebeitel Professor of Religion, History and Human Sciences Department of Religion George Washington University 2106 G Street, NW Washington DC, 20052 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The details of these manuscripts and manuscript bundles are: T0011 k?lottar?gama maku??gama candraj??n?gama s?k?m?gama T0079 yogaj?gama T0570A svacchandabhairava prak?r?avi?aya siddh?nta?ekhara siddh?ntapaddhati j??nasiddh?gama candr?j??na vidy?pur??a maku?ottara d?pt?gama T0746 kira??gama T0764 v?ra?aivad?k??vidh?na v?r?gama T0765 rudray?mala - mantravigrahakavaca r?jar?je?var?tantra tripurasundar?h?daya v?make?var?tantra durv?samahimna tripurasundar?m?nasap?j?di lalit?tri?atin?mastotra prakriy?stotra sarva??ntistava ??lin?mantra ?r?mah?vidy?vanadurg?stotra cidambarana?ar?je?varam?h?tmya tripurasundar?m?l?mantra dev?m?nasikap?j? sandhy?vidhi mah???st?mantroddh?ra cidambarakalpa - d?k??prakara?am ?r?vidy?pa?c??gaga?ana T0758 mata?gap?rame?var?gama T0770 kriy?kamalamar?cik? Many thanks, Harry Spier Manager, Muktabodha Digital Library -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks,J > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com Wed May 31 04:11:22 2017 From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi) Date: Wed, 31 May 17 09:41:22 +0530 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Bhagavadg=C4=ABt=C4=81_large_bold_text?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: They are very much in print. There are large print editions available for download on the internet too. It has been a convention to print all paaraayaNa (reading with the belief that reading itself gives spiritual benefit) books in large font. In north India, such books are printed in leaf-style, i.e., as sheets without binding. There are many audio files available online. These may also be helpful. One example: https://archive.org/details/022BGAD18 On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 8:53 AM, Tyler Williams via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Hi Jesse, > > The Gita Press editions use a relatively large font-- especially their > "Large Size" editions, if you can get hold of one. I'm not sure if they're > still in print though... > > Yours, > Tyler > > On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Jesse Knutson via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Dear Friends, One of my students is partially visually impaired and doing >> some Bhagavadg?t? self-study over the summer. I gave him a very good scan >> of the critical ed, but he's finding the font too grainy when he magnifies >> it. With this in mind, does anyone know of a very well-printed--especially >> one with large and bold script--ed of the G?t?? Thanks,J >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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These may also be helpful. > > One example: > > https://archive.org/details/022BGAD18 > > On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 8:53 AM, Tyler Williams via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Hi Jesse, >> >> The Gita Press editions use a relatively large font-- especially their >> "Large Size" editions, if you can get hold of one. I'm not sure if they're >> still in print though... >> >> Yours, >> Tyler >> >> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Jesse Knutson via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >>> Dear Friends, One of my students is partially visually impaired and >>> doing some Bhagavadg?t? self-study over the summer. I gave him a very good >>> scan of the critical ed, but he's finding the font too grainy when he >>> magnifies it. With this in mind, does anyone know of a very >>> well-printed--especially one with large and bold script--ed of the G?t?? >>> Thanks,J >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>> committee) >>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >>> or unsubscribe) >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > > BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala > > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies > > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, > > (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) > > > > -- Jesse Ross Knutson PhD Assistant Professor of Sanskrit and Bengali, Department of Indo-Pacific Languages and Literatures University of Hawai'i at M?noa 461 Spalding -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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These may also be helpful. >> >> One example: >> >> https://archive.org/details/022BGAD18 >> >> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 8:53 AM, Tyler Williams via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >>> Hi Jesse, >>> >>> The Gita Press editions use a relatively large font-- especially their >>> "Large Size" editions, if you can get hold of one. I'm not sure if they're >>> still in print though... >>> >>> Yours, >>> Tyler >>> >>> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Jesse Knutson via INDOLOGY < >>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Friends, One of my students is partially visually impaired and >>>> doing some Bhagavadg?t? self-study over the summer. I gave him a very good >>>> scan of the critical ed, but he's finding the font too grainy when he >>>> magnifies it. With this in mind, does anyone know of a very >>>> well-printed--especially one with large and bold script--ed of the G?t?? >>>> Thanks,J >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>>> committee) >>>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >>>> or unsubscribe) >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>> committee) >>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >>> or unsubscribe) >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Nagaraj Paturi >> >> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >> >> >> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra >> >> BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala >> >> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies >> >> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >> >> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > Jesse Ross Knutson PhD > Assistant Professor of Sanskrit and Bengali, Department of Indo-Pacific > Languages and Literatures > University of Hawai'i at M?noa > 461 Spalding > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com Wed May 31 04:55:21 2017 From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi) Date: Wed, 31 May 17 10:25:21 +0530 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Bhagavadg=C4=ABt=C4=81_large_bold_text?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The name itself of this is Large-print edition: On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Nagaraj Paturi wrote: > https://archive.org/details/IllustratedBhagavadGita > > On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Jesse Knutson > wrote: > >> Thanks very much to both of you Best,J >> >> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 6:11 PM, Nagaraj Paturi >> wrote: >> >>> They are very much in print. >>> >>> There are large print editions available for download on the internet >>> too. >>> >>> It has been a convention to print all paaraayaNa (reading with the >>> belief that reading itself gives spiritual benefit) books in large font. In >>> north India, such books are printed in leaf-style, i.e., as sheets without >>> binding. >>> >>> There are many audio files available online. These may also be helpful. >>> >>> One example: >>> >>> https://archive.org/details/022BGAD18 >>> >>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 8:53 AM, Tyler Williams via INDOLOGY < >>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Jesse, >>>> >>>> The Gita Press editions use a relatively large font-- especially their >>>> "Large Size" editions, if you can get hold of one. I'm not sure if they're >>>> still in print though... >>>> >>>> Yours, >>>> Tyler >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Jesse Knutson via INDOLOGY < >>>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Friends, One of my students is partially visually impaired and >>>>> doing some Bhagavadg?t? self-study over the summer. I gave him a very good >>>>> scan of the critical ed, but he's finding the font too grainy when he >>>>> magnifies it. With this in mind, does anyone know of a very >>>>> well-printed--especially one with large and bold script--ed of the G?t?? >>>>> Thanks,J >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>>>> committee) >>>>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >>>>> or unsubscribe) >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>>> committee) >>>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >>>> or unsubscribe) >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Nagaraj Paturi >>> >>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >>> >>> >>> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra >>> >>> BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala >>> >>> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies >>> >>> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >>> >>> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jesse Ross Knutson PhD >> Assistant Professor of Sanskrit and Bengali, Department of Indo-Pacific >> Languages and Literatures >> University of Hawai'i at M?noa >> 461 Spalding >> > > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > > BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala > > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies > > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, > > (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) > > > > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jknutson at hawaii.edu Wed May 31 05:15:18 2017 From: jknutson at hawaii.edu (Jesse Knutson) Date: Tue, 30 May 17 19:15:18 -1000 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Bhagavadg=C4=ABt=C4=81_large_bold_text?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It looks great but unfortunately it is highly abridged version. On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 6:55 PM, Nagaraj Paturi wrote: > The name itself of this > is > Large-print edition: > > > > On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Nagaraj Paturi > wrote: > >> https://archive.org/details/IllustratedBhagavadGita >> >> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Jesse Knutson >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks very much to both of you Best,J >>> >>> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 6:11 PM, Nagaraj Paturi >> > wrote: >>> >>>> They are very much in print. >>>> >>>> There are large print editions available for download on the internet >>>> too. >>>> >>>> It has been a convention to print all paaraayaNa (reading with the >>>> belief that reading itself gives spiritual benefit) books in large font. In >>>> north India, such books are printed in leaf-style, i.e., as sheets without >>>> binding. >>>> >>>> There are many audio files available online. These may also be helpful. >>>> >>>> One example: >>>> >>>> https://archive.org/details/022BGAD18 >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 8:53 AM, Tyler Williams via INDOLOGY < >>>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Jesse, >>>>> >>>>> The Gita Press editions use a relatively large font-- especially their >>>>> "Large Size" editions, if you can get hold of one. I'm not sure if they're >>>>> still in print though... >>>>> >>>>> Yours, >>>>> Tyler >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Jesse Knutson via INDOLOGY < >>>>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Friends, One of my students is partially visually impaired and >>>>>> doing some Bhagavadg?t? self-study over the summer. I gave him a very good >>>>>> scan of the critical ed, but he's finding the font too grainy when he >>>>>> magnifies it. With this in mind, does anyone know of a very >>>>>> well-printed--especially one with large and bold script--ed of the G?t?? >>>>>> Thanks,J >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>>>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>>>>> committee) >>>>>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list >>>>>> options or unsubscribe) >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>>>> committee) >>>>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >>>>> or unsubscribe) >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Nagaraj Paturi >>>> >>>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >>>> >>>> >>>> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra >>>> >>>> BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala >>>> >>>> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies >>>> >>>> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >>>> >>>> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jesse Ross Knutson PhD >>> Assistant Professor of Sanskrit and Bengali, Department of Indo-Pacific >>> Languages and Literatures >>> University of Hawai'i at M?noa >>> 461 Spalding >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Nagaraj Paturi >> >> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >> >> >> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra >> >> BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala >> >> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies >> >> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >> >> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > > BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala > > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies > > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, > > (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) > > > > -- Jesse Ross Knutson PhD Assistant Professor of Sanskrit and Bengali, Department of Indo-Pacific Languages and Literatures University of Hawai'i at M?noa 461 Spalding -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com Wed May 31 05:19:13 2017 From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi) Date: Wed, 31 May 17 10:49:13 +0530 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Bhagavadg=C4=ABt=C4=81_large_bold_text?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I am sorry. I didn't notice that. On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Jesse Knutson wrote: > It looks great but unfortunately it is highly abridged version. > > On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 6:55 PM, Nagaraj Paturi > wrote: > >> The name itself of this >> is >> Large-print edition: >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Nagaraj Paturi > > wrote: >> >>> https://archive.org/details/IllustratedBhagavadGita >>> >>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Jesse Knutson >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks very much to both of you Best,J >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 6:11 PM, Nagaraj Paturi < >>>> nagarajpaturi at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> They are very much in print. >>>>> >>>>> There are large print editions available for download on the internet >>>>> too. >>>>> >>>>> It has been a convention to print all paaraayaNa (reading with the >>>>> belief that reading itself gives spiritual benefit) books in large font. In >>>>> north India, such books are printed in leaf-style, i.e., as sheets without >>>>> binding. >>>>> >>>>> There are many audio files available online. These may also be >>>>> helpful. >>>>> >>>>> One example: >>>>> >>>>> https://archive.org/details/022BGAD18 >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 8:53 AM, Tyler Williams via INDOLOGY < >>>>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Jesse, >>>>>> >>>>>> The Gita Press editions use a relatively large font-- especially >>>>>> their "Large Size" editions, if you can get hold of one. I'm not sure if >>>>>> they're still in print though... >>>>>> >>>>>> Yours, >>>>>> Tyler >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Jesse Knutson via INDOLOGY < >>>>>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Friends, One of my students is partially visually impaired and >>>>>>> doing some Bhagavadg?t? self-study over the summer. I gave him a very good >>>>>>> scan of the critical ed, but he's finding the font too grainy when he >>>>>>> magnifies it. With this in mind, does anyone know of a very >>>>>>> well-printed--especially one with large and bold script--ed of the G?t?? >>>>>>> Thanks,J >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>>>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>>>>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>>>>>> committee) >>>>>>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list >>>>>>> options or unsubscribe) >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>>>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>>>>> committee) >>>>>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list >>>>>> options or unsubscribe) >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Nagaraj Paturi >>>>> >>>>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra >>>>> >>>>> BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala >>>>> >>>>> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies >>>>> >>>>> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >>>>> >>>>> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Jesse Ross Knutson PhD >>>> Assistant Professor of Sanskrit and Bengali, Department of Indo-Pacific >>>> Languages and Literatures >>>> University of Hawai'i at M?noa >>>> 461 Spalding >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Nagaraj Paturi >>> >>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >>> >>> >>> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra >>> >>> BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala >>> >>> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies >>> >>> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >>> >>> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Nagaraj Paturi >> >> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >> >> >> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra >> >> BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala >> >> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies >> >> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >> >> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > Jesse Ross Knutson PhD > Assistant Professor of Sanskrit and Bengali, Department of Indo-Pacific > Languages and Literatures > University of Hawai'i at M?noa > 461 Spalding > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jknutson at hawaii.edu Wed May 31 05:25:22 2017 From: jknutson at hawaii.edu (Jesse Knutson) Date: Tue, 30 May 17 19:25:22 -1000 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Bhagavadg=C4=ABt=C4=81_large_bold_text?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: No problem do let me know if you come across something, and also thanks so much for your help,J On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 7:19 PM, Nagaraj Paturi wrote: > I am sorry. I didn't notice that. > > On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Jesse Knutson > wrote: > >> It looks great but unfortunately it is highly abridged version. >> >> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 6:55 PM, Nagaraj Paturi >> wrote: >> >>> The name itself of this >>> is >>> Large-print edition: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Nagaraj Paturi < >>> nagarajpaturi at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> https://archive.org/details/IllustratedBhagavadGita >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Jesse Knutson >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks very much to both of you Best,J >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 6:11 PM, Nagaraj Paturi < >>>>> nagarajpaturi at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> They are very much in print. >>>>>> >>>>>> There are large print editions available for download on the internet >>>>>> too. >>>>>> >>>>>> It has been a convention to print all paaraayaNa (reading with the >>>>>> belief that reading itself gives spiritual benefit) books in large font. In >>>>>> north India, such books are printed in leaf-style, i.e., as sheets without >>>>>> binding. >>>>>> >>>>>> There are many audio files available online. These may also be >>>>>> helpful. >>>>>> >>>>>> One example: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://archive.org/details/022BGAD18 >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 8:53 AM, Tyler Williams via INDOLOGY < >>>>>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Jesse, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Gita Press editions use a relatively large font-- especially >>>>>>> their "Large Size" editions, if you can get hold of one. I'm not sure if >>>>>>> they're still in print though... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yours, >>>>>>> Tyler >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Jesse Knutson via INDOLOGY < >>>>>>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Friends, One of my students is partially visually impaired and >>>>>>>> doing some Bhagavadg?t? self-study over the summer. I gave him a very good >>>>>>>> scan of the critical ed, but he's finding the font too grainy when he >>>>>>>> magnifies it. With this in mind, does anyone know of a very >>>>>>>> well-printed--especially one with large and bold script--ed of the G?t?? >>>>>>>> Thanks,J >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>>>>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>>>>>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>>>>>>> committee) >>>>>>>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list >>>>>>>> options or unsubscribe) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>>>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>>>>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>>>>>> committee) >>>>>>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list >>>>>>> options or unsubscribe) >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Nagaraj Paturi >>>>>> >>>>>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra >>>>>> >>>>>> BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala >>>>>> >>>>>> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies >>>>>> >>>>>> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >>>>>> >>>>>> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Jesse Ross Knutson PhD >>>>> Assistant Professor of Sanskrit and Bengali, Department of >>>>> Indo-Pacific Languages and Literatures >>>>> University of Hawai'i at M?noa >>>>> 461 Spalding >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Nagaraj Paturi >>>> >>>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >>>> >>>> >>>> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra >>>> >>>> BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala >>>> >>>> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies >>>> >>>> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >>>> >>>> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Nagaraj Paturi >>> >>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >>> >>> >>> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra >>> >>> BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala >>> >>> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies >>> >>> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >>> >>> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jesse Ross Knutson PhD >> Assistant Professor of Sanskrit and Bengali, Department of Indo-Pacific >> Languages and Literatures >> University of Hawai'i at M?noa >> 461 Spalding >> > > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > > BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala > > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies > > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, > > (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) > > > > -- Jesse Ross Knutson PhD Assistant Professor of Sanskrit and Bengali, Department of Indo-Pacific Languages and Literatures University of Hawai'i at M?noa 461 Spalding -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com Wed May 31 05:26:34 2017 From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi) Date: Wed, 31 May 17 10:56:34 +0530 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Bhagavadg=C4=ABt=C4=81_large_bold_text?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If he can read a pdf on a computer or something like that, this seems to be expandable to a very big size. On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Nagaraj Paturi wrote: > I am sorry. I didn't notice that. > > On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Jesse Knutson > wrote: > >> It looks great but unfortunately it is highly abridged version. >> >> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 6:55 PM, Nagaraj Paturi >> wrote: >> >>> The name itself of this >>> is >>> Large-print edition: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Nagaraj Paturi < >>> nagarajpaturi at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> https://archive.org/details/IllustratedBhagavadGita >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Jesse Knutson >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks very much to both of you Best,J >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 6:11 PM, Nagaraj Paturi < >>>>> nagarajpaturi at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> They are very much in print. >>>>>> >>>>>> There are large print editions available for download on the internet >>>>>> too. >>>>>> >>>>>> It has been a convention to print all paaraayaNa (reading with the >>>>>> belief that reading itself gives spiritual benefit) books in large font. In >>>>>> north India, such books are printed in leaf-style, i.e., as sheets without >>>>>> binding. >>>>>> >>>>>> There are many audio files available online. These may also be >>>>>> helpful. >>>>>> >>>>>> One example: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://archive.org/details/022BGAD18 >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 8:53 AM, Tyler Williams via INDOLOGY < >>>>>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Jesse, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Gita Press editions use a relatively large font-- especially >>>>>>> their "Large Size" editions, if you can get hold of one. I'm not sure if >>>>>>> they're still in print though... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yours, >>>>>>> Tyler >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Jesse Knutson via INDOLOGY < >>>>>>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Friends, One of my students is partially visually impaired and >>>>>>>> doing some Bhagavadg?t? self-study over the summer. I gave him a very good >>>>>>>> scan of the critical ed, but he's finding the font too grainy when he >>>>>>>> magnifies it. With this in mind, does anyone know of a very >>>>>>>> well-printed--especially one with large and bold script--ed of the G?t?? >>>>>>>> Thanks,J >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>>>>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>>>>>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>>>>>>> committee) >>>>>>>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list >>>>>>>> options or unsubscribe) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>>>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >>>>>>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >>>>>>> committee) >>>>>>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list >>>>>>> options or unsubscribe) >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Nagaraj Paturi >>>>>> >>>>>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra >>>>>> >>>>>> BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala >>>>>> >>>>>> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies >>>>>> >>>>>> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >>>>>> >>>>>> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Jesse Ross Knutson PhD >>>>> Assistant Professor of Sanskrit and Bengali, Department of >>>>> Indo-Pacific Languages and Literatures >>>>> University of Hawai'i at M?noa >>>>> 461 Spalding >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Nagaraj Paturi >>>> >>>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >>>> >>>> >>>> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra >>>> >>>> BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala >>>> >>>> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies >>>> >>>> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >>>> >>>> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Nagaraj Paturi >>> >>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >>> >>> >>> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra >>> >>> BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala >>> >>> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies >>> >>> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >>> >>> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jesse Ross Knutson PhD >> Assistant Professor of Sanskrit and Bengali, Department of Indo-Pacific >> Languages and Literatures >> University of Hawai'i at M?noa >> 461 Spalding >> > > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > > BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala > > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies > > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, > > (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) > > > > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com Wed May 31 10:17:51 2017 From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi) Date: Wed, 31 May 17 15:47:51 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] The pre-natal/pre-incarnatory curse in Indian literature In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Alf's example brings in a very good analogous narrative to that of "sage Vi?ravas? pre-natal, even pre-conception, curse of R?va?a, Kumbhakar?a and ??rpa?akh? to be monstrous because their mother-to be, Kaikas?, approached him at a bad time." Alf was cautious and said, " Vyasa's words (are they a curse?) " Yes, that care is important even in the case of the sage Vis'ravas' words. Are they a curse? Perhaps not. In both the cases, a statement of the consequence of nishiddhakarma appears to be a curse. On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:40 AM, Alfred Hiltebeitel via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > I suppose Vyasa's words (are they a curse?) to Ambika and Ambalika would > count as leading the blind and pale births of Dhrtrastra and Pandu.-Alf > > On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Robert Goldman via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Yes, there are many examples. One of the most striking, in my opinion, is >> the sage Vi?ravas? pre-natal, even pre-conception, curse of R?va?a, >> Kumbhakar?a and ??rpa?akh? to be monstrous because their mother-to be, >> Kaikas?, approached him at a bad time. The sage also prenatally blesses >> his future son Vibh??a?a to be virtuous. See the V?lm?ki R?maya?a (critical >> ed.) 7.9. 10?20. >> >> Of course there innumerable examples of figures being cursed to suffer >> nasty future births. >> Dr. R. P. Goldman >> Catherine and William L. Magistretti Distinguished Professor in South >> and Southeast Asian Studies >> Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies MC # 2540 >> The University of California at Berkeley >> Berkeley, CA 94720-2540 >> Tel: 510-642-4089 <(510)%20642-4089> >> Fax: 510-642-2409 <(510)%20642-2409> >> >> On May 30, 2017, at 8:07 AM, James Hegarty via INDOLOGY < >> indology at list.indology.info> wrote: >> >> Dear List, >> >> I would like to pick the list?s formidable collective Indological brain. >> >> I am interested in examples of curses that precede birth or incarnation >> in Indian literature. >> >> Examples that spring to mind are Dharma being cursed to a human birth as >> Vidura or one of the Vasus, as Bh??ma in the Mah?bh?rata. >> >> Can anyone think of others? I am not fussy about tradition or period, I >> just want to compare a few examples. >> >> I have one other topic to raise. It is teachings given at night. >> >> I am interested in whether there are any family resemblances between >> teachings offered at night (in the most general of terms). Can anyone think >> of sources in which teachings are offered at night (as Vidura teaches >> Dh?tar???ra in the Udyogaparvan of the Mah?bh?rata, for example)? >> >> Thanks in anticipation to the wise and learned list! >> >> Best, >> >> James Hegarty >> Cardiff University >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > > > -- > Alf Hiltebeitel > Professor of Religion, History and Human Sciences > Department of Religion > George Washington University > 2106 G Street, NW > Washington DC, 20052 > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From slaje at kabelmail.de Wed May 31 10:50:15 2017 From: slaje at kabelmail.de (Walter Slaje) Date: Wed, 31 May 17 12:50:15 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] A Cumulative Supplement Dictionary of Sanskrit Message-ID: Dear Colleagues, we should like to inform the members of this list that a cumulative Sanskrit dictionary with the German title ?Nachtragsw?rterbuch des Sanskrit? (NWS), the result of a joint project at the universities of Halle and Marburg and funded by the DFG, is accessible as a trial version: http://nws.uzi.uni-halle.de/?lang=en The new search tool lists lexicographical addenda from c. 170 dictionaries and glossaries, which postdate B?htlingk's "Sanskrit-W?rterbuch in k?rzerer Fassung" (1879-89) as well as R. Schmidts "Nachtr?ge" (1928): http://nws.uzi.uni-halle.de/dictionaries?lang=en The search page provides a synoptic search in all three sources: http://nws.uzi.uni-halle.de/search?lang=en General information is provided here: http://nws.uzi.uni-halle.de/description?lang=de Basic usage is probably self-explanatory, but do use the button "Help and useful hints" on the search page and the menu "Description". Corrections and other feedback can be sent to nws at uzi.uni-halle.de. We hope that the NWS will be of some use for Sanskritists. Kind regards, Walter Slaje (Halle) and J?rgen Hanneder (Marburg) ----------------------------- Prof. Dr. Walter Slaje Hermann-L?ns-Str. 1 D-99425 Weimar Deutschland Ego ex animi mei sententia spondeo ac polliceor studia humanitatis impigro labore culturum et provecturum non sordidi lucri causa nec ad vanam captandam gloriam, sed quo magis veritas propagetur et lux eius, qua salus humani generis continetur, clarius effulgeat. Vindobonae, die XXI. mensis Novembris MCMLXXXIII. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mkapstei at uchicago.edu Wed May 31 11:12:44 2017 From: mkapstei at uchicago.edu (Matthew Kapstein) Date: Wed, 31 May 17 11:12:44 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] A Cumulative Supplement Dictionary of Sanskrit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <82C3E42590D939418C74DD76B97DDED047C47EB5@xm-mbx-06-prod> Dear Walter, Congratulations to you and your colleagues on your successful launch of this exceptional research tool. kudos to you! Matthew Matthew Kapstein Directeur d'?tudes, Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, The University of Chicago ________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From slaje at kabelmail.de Wed May 31 12:33:46 2017 From: slaje at kabelmail.de (Walter Slaje) Date: Wed, 31 May 17 14:33:46 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] A Cumulative Supplement Dictionary of Sanskrit (corr.) Message-ID: Correction: General information is provided here (in English): http://nws.uzi.uni-halle.de/description?lang=en 2017-05-31 12:50 GMT+02:00 Walter Slaje : > Dear Colleagues, > > we should like to inform the members of this list that a cumulative > Sanskrit dictionary with the German title ?Nachtragsw?rterbuch des > Sanskrit? (NWS), the result of a joint project at the universities of > Halle and Marburg and funded by the DFG, is accessible as a trial version: > > http://nws.uzi.uni-halle.de/?lang=en > > The new search tool lists lexicographical addenda from c. 170 > dictionaries and glossaries, which postdate B?htlingk's > "Sanskrit-W?rterbuch in k?rzerer Fassung" (1879-89) as well as > R. Schmidts "Nachtr?ge" (1928): > > http://nws.uzi.uni-halle.de/dictionaries?lang=en > > The search page provides a synoptic search in all three sources: > > http://nws.uzi.uni-halle.de/search?lang=en > > General information is provided here: > > http://nws.uzi.uni-halle.de/description?lang=de > > Basic usage is probably self-explanatory, but do use the button > "Help and useful hints" on the search page and the menu "Description". > > Corrections and other feedback can be sent to nws at uzi.uni-halle.de. > > We hope that the NWS will be of some use for Sanskritists. > > Kind regards, > > Walter Slaje (Halle) and J?rgen Hanneder (Marburg) > > ----------------------------- > Prof. Dr. Walter Slaje > Hermann-L?ns-Str. 1 > D-99425 Weimar > Deutschland > > Ego ex animi mei sententia spondeo ac polliceor > studia humanitatis impigro labore culturum et provecturum > non sordidi lucri causa nec ad vanam captandam gloriam, > sed quo magis veritas propagetur et lux eius, qua salus > humani generis continetur, clarius effulgeat. > Vindobonae, die XXI. mensis Novembris MCMLXXXIII. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From RDavidson at fairfield.edu Wed May 31 12:48:02 2017 From: RDavidson at fairfield.edu (Davidson, Ronald M.) Date: Wed, 31 May 17 12:48:02 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Request for assistance Message-ID: <3AB475E7-E058-460C-BFE4-36F16BDAA7C5@fairfield.edu> Dear Indology List, I hope that there may be someone with access to pdf-s of the two volume ?va?yaka-c?r?i of Jinad?sa, published in 1928-29 who might share them. This is not the 14th century ?va?yaka-niryukty-avac?r?i available on the Jain eLibrary site. If the C?r?i is available on some server that has eluded my detection, please provide me guidance. The complete reference: Jinada?sa-gan?imahattara-kr?taya? su?tra-cu?rn?ya? sametam? s?ri?mad-A?vas?yakasu?tram, 2 vols., ed. R?s?abha-devaji Kes?ari?malaji? S?veta?mbara Sam?stha? (Ratlam & Indore, 1928-29) Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Ron Davidson ______________________________________________ Ronald M. Davidson, Ph.D. Professor and Chair of Religious Studies Director, School of the Humanities, College of Arts & Sciences Director, Humanities Institute 251 Donnarumma Hall Fairfield University, 1073 North Benson Road Fairfield CT 06824-5195, U.S.A. 203-254-4000 x 2489 www.fairfield.edu/humanities [cid:image001.png at 01D2D9EA.9C9C7680] From davidpaolo.pierdominicileao at uniroma1.it Wed May 31 13:42:47 2017 From: davidpaolo.pierdominicileao at uniroma1.it (David Pierdominici) Date: Wed, 31 May 17 15:42:47 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] digital copy Message-ID: <4A57266E-A732-4C2D-9713-A238678E1210@uniroma1.it> Dear members of the list, does anyone have a copy of ?J?mbavat? parinayam? of Krishnadevaraya, edited by Ramaraju, Andhra Pradesh Sahitya Akademi, Hyderabad, 1969? I would be most grateful to anyone who will help in this matter. My best regards, David Pierdominici PhD candidate Sapienza Universit? di Roma -- ___________________________________________ *Il tuo 5 diventa 1000* Fai crescere la tua universit? Dona il 5 per mille alla Sapienza Codice fiscale: *80209930587* From ondracka at ff.cuni.cz Wed May 31 15:17:34 2017 From: ondracka at ff.cuni.cz (=?utf-8?Q?Lubom=C3=ADr_Ondra=C4=8Dka?=) Date: Wed, 31 May 17 17:17:34 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] A Cumulative Supplement Dictionary of Sanskrit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20170531171734.04ae6ec14bdf5a95cf19b097@ff.cuni.cz> This is an absolutely amazing achievement, many thanks for this! It's great to see many important dictionaries on the list (e.g. Abhyankar, Hellwig, T?ntrik?bhidh?nako?a and even the new Olivelle's Dictionary of Law and Statescraft). No doubt, this is an extremely helpful tool, but it should be added that full entries from original printed dictionaries are usually not included (at least in the case of the aboved mentioned dictionaries). So you will find basic meaning(s) here, but for a full entry it is still necessary to consult a printed book. Sometimes it adds a little to the NWS entry (typically more examples), but sometimes the printed entry is much more longer (esp. in the case ot the TAK). This is not a criticism of the project, but a note for users what they should expect and what not. So many thanks indeed for this tool, I am sure I will use it almost daily. Lubomir --- Lubom?r Ondra?ka Department of Philosophy & Religious Studies Faculty of Arts, Charles University Nam. J. Palacha 2, Praha 1, 116 38 CZECH REPUBLIC On Wed, 31 May 2017 12:50:15 +0200 Walter Slaje via INDOLOGY wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > we should like to inform the members of this list that a cumulative > Sanskrit dictionary with the German title ?Nachtragsw?rterbuch des > Sanskrit? (NWS), the result of a joint project at the universities of Halle > and Marburg and funded by the DFG, is accessible as a trial version: > > http://nws.uzi.uni-halle.de/?lang=en > > The new search tool lists lexicographical addenda from c. 170 > dictionaries and glossaries, which postdate B?htlingk's > "Sanskrit-W?rterbuch in k?rzerer Fassung" (1879-89) as well as > R. Schmidts "Nachtr?ge" (1928): > > http://nws.uzi.uni-halle.de/dictionaries?lang=en > > The search page provides a synoptic search in all three sources: > > http://nws.uzi.uni-halle.de/search?lang=en > > General information is provided here: > > http://nws.uzi.uni-halle.de/description?lang=de > > Basic usage is probably self-explanatory, but do use the button > "Help and useful hints" on the search page and the menu "Description". > > Corrections and other feedback can be sent to nws at uzi.uni-halle.de. > > We hope that the NWS will be of some use for Sanskritists. > > Kind regards, > > Walter Slaje (Halle) and J?rgen Hanneder (Marburg) > > ----------------------------- > Prof. Dr. Walter Slaje > Hermann-L?ns-Str. 1 > D-99425 Weimar > Deutschland > > Ego ex animi mei sententia spondeo ac polliceor > studia humanitatis impigro labore culturum et provecturum > non sordidi lucri causa nec ad vanam captandam gloriam, > sed quo magis veritas propagetur et lux eius, qua salus > humani generis continetur, clarius effulgeat. > Vindobonae, die XXI. mensis Novembris MCMLXXXIII. -- From pankajaindia at gmail.com Wed May 31 15:51:29 2017 From: pankajaindia at gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?UGFua2FqIEphaW4g4KSq4KSC4KSV4KScIOCknOCliOCkqA==?=) Date: Wed, 31 May 17 10:51:29 -0500 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Fwd: Call For Papers: American Journal of Indic Studies In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Prof. Vemsani for sharing the call for papers for AJIS. Below is some more info about the editorial board for this new journal (also at http://aaindicstudies.org/publication/) *Editorial Advisor:* Arvind Sharma *Executive Editor:* Pankaj Jain *Editor-in-Chief:* Lavanya Vemsani *Editorial Ombudsman:* Jeffery D. Long *Assistant Editor:* Anjali Kanojia *Book Review Editor:*TBD *Editorial Board:* Amarjiva Lochan Antoinette DeNapoli Antonio de Nicolas Anup Kumar Bharat Gupt Brij Mohan George Cardona Harsha Dehejia Jim G. Shaffer Madhu Khanna Makarand Paranjape Mandakranta Bose Peter Scharf Radhakrishnan Pillai Rajakumari Shankar Rajeshwari Pandharipande Rama Rao Pappu Rana P. B. Singh Ravindra D. Prasad Rayson K. Alex Robert Thurman Sangeetha Menon Stephen Phillips Varadaraja Raman ------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------- Dr. Pankaj Jain ???? ??? Associate Professor Dept of Philosophy and Religion Co-chair, India Initiative Group Co-founder, American Academy of Indic Studies Section Editor for Hinduism, Encyclopedia of Indian Religions University of North Texas unt.academia.edu/PankajJain/ @ProfPankajJain > *Call for papers* > > *American Journal of Indic Studies* > > * ISSN 2573-2145 (Print) ISSN 2573-1939 > (Online)* > > *Submissions open for the Inaugural Issue Volume 1 No 1* > > > > American Journal of Indic Studies (AJIS) is a peer-reviewed journal > published by the American Academy of Indic Studies (AAIS). > > > > AJIS invites academic papers on all aspects of Indic studies broadly > defined for publication in Volume 1 Number 1 and its subsequent issues. AJIS > publishes papers that call attention to the meanings and applications of > Indic categories, which have typically been under-represented in the > academic study of Indic civilization. AJIS invites papers that analyze > specific theoretical and methodological issues within Indic studies across > academic disciplines. AJIS also welcomes papers that place Indic categories > and explanatory models in conversation with western theoretical and > methodological models in order to deepen and expand scholarly knowledge of > Indic civilization. Interactions and relationships of western and > non-western studies on contemporary and classical Indic civilization are > also considered for publication. > > > > Papers on all aspects of Indic Studies, and their interdisciplinary > studies in all of the disciplines of Humanities, Social Sciences, > Education, Public Affairs, and other Interdisciplinary areas including (but > not limited to) Anthropology, Archaeology, Diaspora Studies, Ethical > Thought, Ecological & Environmental Studies, History & Culture, Human > Geography, India-America relations, Indic Elements & Hindu-Buddhist > relations in Asia, Language & Linguistics, Media Studies, Philosophy, > Politics & Public Administration, Religious Studies, Social Work, > Sociology, and Gender Studies will be considered for publication. > > > > American Journal of Indic Studies publishes original papers, reflection > papers, theoretical & conceptual frameworks, analytical & empirical > research, applied research & field notes, and book & film reviews. > > > > *Date of Publishing:* AJIS is inviting papers for Vol. 1 No. 1 scheduled > to be published in Winter 2017. > > > > *Submission deadline: *August 28, 2017. > > > > Contributions for subsequent volumes will be accepted on a rolling basis > and considered on a first-come-first-serve basis for the next available > upcoming volume. Please include brief bio with your submission. Send your > manuscript and questions to the editor Dr. Lavanya Vemsani at: > editor at AAIndicStudies.org > > > > *Dr. Lavanya Vemsani* > > Editor-in-Chief, *American Journal of Indic Studies * > https//aaindicstudies.org/publication/ > > Professor, Department of Social Sciences, Shawnee State University > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Wed May 31 16:13:47 2017 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Wed, 31 May 17 12:13:47 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] My Sanskrit Poems Message-ID: Dear friends, While going through old papers, I discovered some of my Sanskrit poems composed in 1984. Here they are. *Ann Arbor, 1984:* ????????????? ??? ?????????????? ?????? ??? ???? ???? ??????? ??????: ? ????????? ???????? ?????? ?????? ???????: ??????? ????????? ?? ??? ??????? ????????? ???? ??? ????: ????? ???? ? ??????????????? ????? ? ??:?? ????? ????? ? ??? ?????? ???????? ???? ????????? ? ?????: ??? ??? ??:?? ??? ???? ?? ????? ?????? ???? ?????? ?? ??, ???????? ??????? ???????????? ?????????????? ? ????????? ???????? ????? ????? ???????????????????, ?????: ??????????? ??????????????: ????? ???????????? ??? ???????????????????? ???????????? ??????? ?????????: ??:??????:?? ??????? ???????????? ???????????????? ? ??? ?????? ??? ? ?????? ??????????? ??? ? ?? ?????? ?????? ???????????????? ??????? ????? ??????? ???????? ??? Madhav Deshpande Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wujastyk at gmail.com Wed May 31 16:31:51 2017 From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Wed, 31 May 17 10:31:51 -0600 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Help needed In-Reply-To: <8100CB9E-FC81-4C63-8010-E4DA363FC158@helsinki.fi> Message-ID: Is this what you need to see: https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.408492 ? -- Professor Dominik Wujastyk ?,? Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity ?,? Department of History and Classics ?,? University of Alberta, Canada ?.? South Asia at the U of A: ?sas.ualberta.ca? ?? On 24 May 2017 at 04:06, Klaus Karttunen via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear colleagues, > could anyone help me scanning a few pages or giving place where the text > is found. I would like to see what lies behind a rather obscure reference > to V. Bhattacharyya, The ?gama??stra of Gau?ap?da (Calcutta 1943), pp. > LXXII-LXXIV. The book is not found in any libraries here. > > Best, > Klaus > > Klaus Karttunen > South Asian and Indoeuropean Studies > Asian and African Studies, Department of World Cultures > PL 59 (Unioninkatu 38 B) > 00014 University of Helsinki, FINLAND > Tel +358-(0)2941 4482418 <02941%204482418> > Fax +358-(0)2941 22094 <02941%2022094> > Klaus.Karttunen at helsinki.fi > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Wed May 31 16:50:08 2017 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Wed, 31 May 17 12:50:08 -0400 Subject: [INDOLOGY] My Sanskrit Poems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Please correct "????????? ???????? ?????? ??????" to "????????? ???????? ?????? ???????". Ashok pointed out this typo. Best. Madhav Deshpande 2017-05-31 12:13 GMT-04:00 Madhav Deshpande : > Dear friends, > > While going through old papers, I discovered some of my Sanskrit > poems composed in 1984. Here they are. > > *Ann Arbor, 1984:* > > > > ????????????? ??? ?????????????? > > ?????? ??? ???? ???? ??????? ??????: ? > > ????????? ???????? ?????? ?????? > > ???????: ??????? ????????? ?? ??? > > > > ??????? ????????? ???? ??? ????: > > ????? ???? ? ??????????????? ????? ? > > ??:?? ????? ????? ? ??? ?????? > > ???????? ???? ????????? ? ?????: ??? > > > > ??? ??:?? ??? ???? ?? ????? ?????? ???? ?????? ?? ??, > > ???????? ??????? ???????????? ?????????????? ? > > ????????? ???????? ????? ????? ???????????????????, > > ?????: ??????????? ??????????????: ????? ???????????? ??? > > > > ???????????????????? ???????????? ??????? ?????????: > > ??:??????:?? ??????? ???????????? ???????????????? ? > > ??? ?????? ??? ? ?????? ??????????? ??? ? ?? ?????? ?????? > > ???????????????? ??????? ????? ??????? ???????? ??? > > > Madhav Deshpande > > Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wujastyk at gmail.com Wed May 31 16:52:18 2017 From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Wed, 31 May 17 10:52:18 -0600 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Rare Marathi Books online In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If anyone has the time, it would great to re-upload this collection to Archive.org. I'm increasingly seeing Archive.org as the go-to repository for long-term archival safety. ? -- Professor Dominik Wujastyk ?,? Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity ?,? Department of History and Classics ?,? University of Alberta, Canada ?.? South Asia at the U of A: ?sas.ualberta.ca? ?? On 24 May 2017 at 18:24, Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > The ????? ????? ????? ?????? an organ of the government of the state > of Maharashtra has made 680 rare Marathi books and journals, many dating > back to 1820, available online in pdf form for free downloading. This is > an absolutely amazing rare collection. Here is a link to their home page: > > https://rmvs.maharashtra.gov.in/index.html > > Try it, if you are interested. With best wishes, > > Madhav Deshpande > Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jemhouben at gmail.com Wed May 31 17:41:08 2017 From: jemhouben at gmail.com (Jan E.M. Houben) Date: Wed, 31 May 17 18:41:08 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] A Cumulative Supplement Dictionary of Sanskrit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Walter, Dear J?rgen, This is an excellent initiative, thanks for sharing this significant new research tool ! Since you base yourself on lexicographical works "seit den Petersburger W?rterb?chern von O. B?htlingk (speziell dem ?pw?, 1879-89) und dem darauf aufbauenden Werk von R. Schmidt (1928)" it is not immediately clear whether pre-1928 critical studies in lexicography (critical of the remarkable work done by B?htlingk and Roth) have sufficiently been taken into account. Think of Johann Georg B?hler 1894 The Roots of the Dh?tup??ha not found in Literature, Indian Antiquary 23 (1894) 141-154, 250-255; WZKM 8, 17-42, 122-136, partially reprinted in Staal J. F. (ed.) A Reader on the Sanskrit Grammarians, MIT Press, 1972, 194-204. J.G. B?hler is quite critical of earlier lexicographical efforts: ?no Sanskritist can afford to leave the modern vernaculars out of the range of his studies, if he wishes really to understand the ancient language? (1894: 150). I am curious why you list ? Suppl[e]ment to Dictionary of P??inian Grammatical Terminology. ? Annals of the Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute, vol. 90 (for 2009) : 127-151 (actual date of appearance: 2011), but not Roodbergen's Dictionary of P??inian Grammatical Terminology itself (Pune: Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute, 2008). You have taken several lexicographical works of Louis Renou into account, but I do not see Renou, Louis. 1953. Vocabulaire du rituel v?dique. Paris: C. Klincksieck. Renou, Louis. 1957. Terminologie Grammaticale du Sanskrit. 2e impression. Paris: Champion. I also miss in your list Caland, Willem and Victor Henry 1906-07: L'Agni??oma. Description compl?te de la forme normale du Sacrifice de Soma dans le culte v?dique. Tome I-II. Paris: Ernest Leroux, which contains a list of terms relevant to Vedic ritual. Specific studies of medical terminology seem not to have received sufficient attention in this stage of your project. I guess that a study such as A. Raison, "Un dictionnaire de mati?re m?dicale d'apr?s les chapitres III ? XII du Rajanighantu", which appeared in G.J. Meulenbeld (Ed.) (1984), 251--260, would be usable. >From your reference to Oliver Hellwig's 2009 W?rterbuch der mittelalterlichen indischen Alchemie with as specific topic "Mineralogy" should we conclude that the contributions of this dictionary to other fields such as alchemical instruments have not been used? Jan Houben *Jan E.M. HOUBEN* Directeur d??tudes Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite Professor of South Asian History and Philology *?cole Pratique des Hautes ?tudes* *Sciences historiques et philologiques * 54, rue Saint-Jacques CS 20525 ? 75005 Paris johannes.houben at ephe.sorbonne.fr https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben www.ephe.fr On 31 May 2017 at 11:50, Walter Slaje via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > we should like to inform the members of this list that a cumulative > Sanskrit dictionary with the German title ?Nachtragsw?rterbuch des > Sanskrit? (NWS), the result of a joint project at the universities of > Halle and Marburg and funded by the DFG, is accessible as a trial version: > > http://nws.uzi.uni-halle.de/?lang=en > > The new search tool lists lexicographical addenda from c. 170 > dictionaries and glossaries, which postdate B?htlingk's > "Sanskrit-W?rterbuch in k?rzerer Fassung" (1879-89) as well as > R. Schmidts "Nachtr?ge" (1928): > > http://nws.uzi.uni-halle.de/dictionaries?lang=en > > The search page provides a synoptic search in all three sources: > > http://nws.uzi.uni-halle.de/search?lang=en > > General information is provided here: > > http://nws.uzi.uni-halle.de/description?lang=de > > Basic usage is probably self-explanatory, but do use the button > "Help and useful hints" on the search page and the menu "Description". > > Corrections and other feedback can be sent to nws at uzi.uni-halle.de. > > We hope that the NWS will be of some use for Sanskritists. > > Kind regards, > > Walter Slaje (Halle) and J?rgen Hanneder (Marburg) > > ----------------------------- > Prof. Dr. Walter Slaje > Hermann-L?ns-Str. 1 > D-99425 Weimar > Deutschland > > Ego ex animi mei sententia spondeo ac polliceor > studia humanitatis impigro labore culturum et provecturum > non sordidi lucri causa nec ad vanam captandam gloriam, > sed quo magis veritas propagetur et lux eius, qua salus > humani generis continetur, clarius effulgeat. > Vindobonae, die XXI. mensis Novembris MCMLXXXIII. > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From franceschini.marco at fastwebnet.it Wed May 31 17:58:24 2017 From: franceschini.marco at fastwebnet.it (Marco Franceschini) Date: Wed, 31 May 17 19:58:24 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Help with a(n apparently rare) volume In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <92B92893-CA55-48CE-9D75-81F62C27B058@fastwebnet.it> Dear all, does anyone happen to have a pdf of the following work? Ramanatha Jha (ed.), Hariharaviracit? Suktimukt?val? athav? ?r?-Hariharasubh??itam. With a foreword by Amaranatha Jha. Patna: Newspapers and Publications Ltd., 1949. The volume is owned by a few libraries around the world (in Europe it seems that only the Universit?tbibliothek Marburg has it), and it is not available from any major online bookseller. Thank you very much in advance for your kind help, with best wishes, Marco --- Marco Franceschini ??????????? Fixed-term Researcher University of Bologna Department of History and Cultures via Zamboni 33 - 40126 Bologna - Italy marco.franceschini3 at unibo.it --- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jean-luc.chevillard at univ-paris-diderot.fr Wed May 31 18:23:30 2017 From: jean-luc.chevillard at univ-paris-diderot.fr (Jean-Luc Chevillard) Date: Wed, 31 May 17 20:23:30 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Classical Tamil Studies at the university of Hamburg Message-ID: <5fc8824d-97a2-7c21-ad1c-85076271dd9e@univ-paris-diderot.fr> ANNOUNCEMENT ******************************************************* Classical Tamil Studies at the university of Hamburg From 1st of June 2017, the department for Culture and History of India and Tibet at the Asia-Africa Institute of Hamburg University (https://www.aai.uni-hamburg.de/indtib/personen.html) has appointed a new professor for Tamilistics and manuscript studies. Since March 2014, Tamil has been strongly represented in research at the Hamburg Centre for the Study of Manuscript Cultures (http://www.manuscript-cultures.uni-hamburg.de), thanks to the ERC Advanced Grant NETamil (Going from Hand to Hand: Networks of Intellectual Exchange in the Tamil Learned Traditions; http://netamil.org/), which allows an international team of twenty-seven scholars to digitise the remaining textual witnesses for several literary traditions, to edit them and to follow up on their transmission history. A group of four doctoral and postdoctoral scholars under PI Eva Wilden are affiliated to the CSMC and work in close collaboration with the Indian part of the team at the centre of the Ecole Fran?aise d?Extr?me-Orient (EFEO) in Puducherry. Since then Tamil is found among the optional languages in the indological curriculum in Hamburg. From this October onwards Classical Tamil will also be introduced as a language for Master and as a second language on B.A. level. The focus both in teaching and research will be on premodern literature and traditional grammar and poetics, as well as on South-Indian Bhakti, especially in its Vishnuite varieties. Special attention will be paid to multi-lingual interaction between Tamil, Sanskrit and the other Dravidian languages. According to capacities, modern Tamil will also be included, because of its relevance for the later transmission and its importance in secondary literature. In addition there are plans for continued collaboration with the EFEO Pondy, where since 2003 yearly intensive course are taking place in the form of Classical Tamil Winter or Summer Seminars. ********************************* -- Jean-Luc Chevillard (CNRS, France) From slaje at kabelmail.de Wed May 31 21:03:00 2017 From: slaje at kabelmail.de (Walter Slaje) Date: Wed, 31 May 17 23:03:00 +0200 Subject: [INDOLOGY] A Cumulative Supplement Dictionary of Sanskrit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Jan, thank you for your observations and proposals. In brief, we keep lists of many more glossaries in our drawers, which we ourselves ?miss? no less badly than you. We would have loved to add more, but the ?present stage of the project? you refer to is actually its final stage. The ?Description? provided on the search site informs the careful reader that funding was granted by the DFG for three years only. Therefore, the ?volume of the data to be included had to be limited right from the outset, and a manageable choice had to be made. What you get is what we could manage to achieve in the allotted time. Given that even the data base as such had to be developed in the course of those three years and that every single entry of every single glossary had to be adapted to the structure of the pw (hand-picked) for the purpose of the intended synoptic representation ? not to speak of proof-reading ?, any claim to completeness would have amounted to hubris. We have consciously never made such a claim ?.? Even though two works of Renou are deplorably missing, I agree, there are still about fifteen other lexicographical works from Renou?s pen included in the NWS, which spares you checking all of them separately when hunting for a single word. Since the NWS is almost limitlessly expandable, it is only a matter of raising funds for completing it in a ?truly ? satisfying manner. Everybody, who is interested in expanding it further, is cordially invited to ?come up with feasible ideas for fundraising. > From your reference to Oliver Hellwig's 2009 W?rterbuch der mittelalterlichen indischen Alchemie with as specific topic "Mineralogy" should we conclude that the contributions of this dictionary to other fields such as alchemical instruments have not been used? It depends on whether one likes to approach the NWS from a theoretical or from a practical perspective: The theorist, relying on conclusions drawn from a tag he has spotted, will refrain from search efforts and meet less success than the more practical person, who blithely types, e.g., ?*m?ra?a*? and feels rewarded by a result, which at the same time would also answer your question about ?mineralogy only?, were it indeed put earnestly, which, I trust, it was not, but with mild irony ? only? . I like that. In any case, we will of course adjust the topic. Thank you for alerting us to it! Kind regards, Walter 2017-05-31 19:41 GMT+02:00 Jan E.M. Houben : > Dear Walter, Dear J?rgen, > This is an excellent initiative, thanks for sharing this significant new > research tool ! > > Since you base yourself on lexicographical works "seit den Petersburger > W?rterb?chern von O. B?htlingk (speziell dem ?pw?, 1879-89) und dem darauf > aufbauenden Werk von R. Schmidt (1928)" it is not immediately clear whether > pre-1928 critical studies in lexicography (critical of the remarkable work > done by B?htlingk and Roth) have sufficiently been taken into account. > Think of Johann Georg B?hler 1894 The Roots of the Dh?tup??ha not found in > Literature, Indian Antiquary 23 (1894) 141-154, 250-255; WZKM 8, 17-42, > 122-136, partially reprinted in Staal J. F. (ed.) A Reader on the Sanskrit > Grammarians, MIT Press, 1972, 194-204. > J.G. B?hler is quite critical of earlier lexicographical efforts: ?no > Sanskritist can afford to leave the modern vernaculars out of the range of > his studies, if he wishes really to understand the ancient language? (1894: > 150). > > I am curious why you list ? Suppl[e]ment to Dictionary of P??inian > Grammatical Terminology. ? Annals of the Bhandarkar Oriental Research > Institute, vol. 90 (for 2009) : 127-151 (actual date of appearance: 2011), > but not Roodbergen's Dictionary of P??inian Grammatical Terminology itself > (Pune: Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute, 2008). > > You have taken several lexicographical works of Louis Renou into account, > but I do not see > Renou, Louis. 1953. Vocabulaire du rituel v?dique. Paris: C. Klincksieck. > Renou, Louis. 1957. Terminologie Grammaticale du Sanskrit. 2e impression. > Paris: Champion. > > I also miss in your list Caland, Willem and Victor Henry 1906-07: > L'Agni??oma. Description compl?te de la forme normale du Sacrifice de Soma > dans le culte v?dique. Tome I-II. Paris: Ernest Leroux, which contains a > list of terms relevant to Vedic ritual. > > Specific studies of medical terminology seem not to have received > sufficient attention in this stage of your project. > I guess that a study such as A. Raison, "Un dictionnaire de mati?re > m?dicale d'apr?s les chapitres III ? XII du Rajanighantu", which appeared > in G.J. Meulenbeld (Ed.) (1984), 251--260, would be usable. > > From your reference to Oliver Hellwig's 2009 W?rterbuch der > mittelalterlichen indischen Alchemie with as specific topic "Mineralogy" > should we conclude that the contributions of this dictionary to other > fields such as alchemical instruments have not been used? > > Jan Houben > > > > > *Jan E.M. HOUBEN* > > Directeur d??tudes > > Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite > > Professor of South Asian History and Philology > > *?cole Pratique des Hautes ?tudes* > > *Sciences historiques et philologiques * > > 54, rue Saint-Jacques > > CS 20525 ? 75005 Paris > > johannes.houben at ephe.sorbonne.fr > > https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben > > www.ephe.fr > > > On 31 May 2017 at 11:50, Walter Slaje via INDOLOGY < > indology at list.indology.info> wrote: > >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> we should like to inform the members of this list that a cumulative >> Sanskrit dictionary with the German title ?Nachtragsw?rterbuch des >> Sanskrit? (NWS), the result of a joint project at the universities of Halle >> and Marburg and funded by the DFG, is accessible as a trial version: >> >> http://nws.uzi.uni-halle.de/?lang=en >> >> The new search tool lists lexicographical addenda from c. 170 >> dictionaries and glossaries, which postdate B?htlingk's >> "Sanskrit-W?rterbuch in k?rzerer Fassung" (1879-89) as well as >> R. Schmidts "Nachtr?ge" (1928): >> >> http://nws.uzi.uni-halle.de/dictionaries?lang=en >> >> The search page provides a synoptic search in all three sources: >> >> http://nws.uzi.uni-halle.de/search?lang=en >> >> General information is provided here: >> >> http://nws.uzi.uni-halle.de/description?lang=de >> >> Basic usage is probably self-explanatory, but do use the button >> "Help and useful hints" on the search page and the menu "Description". >> >> Corrections and other feedback can be sent to nws at uzi.uni-halle.de. >> >> We hope that the NWS will be of some use for Sanskritists. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Walter Slaje (Halle) and J?rgen Hanneder (Marburg) >> >> ----------------------------- >> Prof. Dr. Walter Slaje >> Hermann-L?ns-Str. 1 >> D-99425 Weimar >> Deutschland >> >> Ego ex animi mei sententia spondeo ac polliceor >> studia humanitatis impigro labore culturum et provecturum >> non sordidi lucri causa nec ad vanam captandam gloriam, >> sed quo magis veritas propagetur et lux eius, qua salus >> humani generis continetur, clarius effulgeat. >> Vindobonae, die XXI. mensis Novembris MCMLXXXIII. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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