[INDOLOGY] Ismail Jogi mantra

Sun Jun 4 19:09:23 UTC 2017

Oṁ namo kāmrū des kāmākhyā devī

Tahāṁ base ismāil jogī

Ismāil jogi ke tīn beṭā

Ek toṛe ek pichoṛe

Ek śīt tijārī goḍe

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Let us try the outward meaning:

Om Namo (Well known beginning of such rituals, spells etc. ) (Om, the
Vedic syllable, namah, literally, bowing =obedience) , expression of
worshiping attitude

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kāmrū des kāmākhyā devī

(Let me remember, focus on , concentrate on ) kāmāmākhyādēvī of kāmrūp region

Note: In the magecian's /spell-healer's patter/formulaic recitation,
mention of the Devi forms , particularly of nearby region is a
convention.

In south India, such rural rustic practitioners usually mention
kāmākṣī of kāñcī, mīnākṣī of madurai, viśālākṣī of kāśī (vāraṇāśī) as
a beginning of their ritual /spell event. They may add a few more
Devis.

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Tahāṁ base ismāil jogī

= Ismail Jogi who lives (base) there (tāhām)

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Ismāil jogi ke tīn beṭā

There are three sons to Ismail Jogi

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Ek toṛe ek pichoṛe

Ek śīt tijārī goḍe

This part of the riddle, I give up. Ek =one śīt = cool , cold

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On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 6:13 PM, Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Artur-ji,
>
> Spells that you mention belong to the category of Shaabara mantras,
> sometimes called siddha mantras or Shaabara Siddha mantras. These are not
> in Sanskrit. They are usually in regional Indian languages (including south
> Indian languages), particularly their rustic dialects.
>
> Sharing the snapshot of a Hindi article. (Since you know Hindi, you should
> be able to follow). There are books and articles about these in regional
> Indian languages.
>
> You called hem mysterious. They consider them to be encryption.
>
> You may see books like http://www.exoticindiaart.com/book/details/siddha-
> shabar-mantra-collection-of-200-shabar-mantra-NZI825/
>
> ----------------------------------
>
> You say Ismail Jogi is contradictio in adiecto. To those who are aware of
> several different 'Hindu'-Islamic syncretisms in India it doesn't appear to
> be contradictio in adiecto.
>
> Close to my native town, there is a Veerashaiva-Islamic math. Bham Bam
> BAba math
>
> visit http://srisadgurubhambhambaba.blogspot.in/2011/10/photos.html
>
> watch
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjrlykP7Dm0
>
> Sheik Abdul Baba, the founder of the math, composed songs with content
> both from Islam and 'Hinduism' in Kannada and Telugu.
>
> There are Muslim Vaishnavas. Sharing a snapshot from
>
> The Foundations of the Composite Culture in India
> By Malika Mohammada
>
> From here
> <https://books.google.co.in/books?id=dwzbYvQszf4C&pg=PA278&lpg=PA278&dq=muslim+vaishnava&source=bl&ots=xS7E38uz1K&sig=Avf5_Z_7C2m0_w8a4tmy-pWvUUc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjeuoaSlqTUAhULO48KHSmXAk04ChDoAQg2MAQ#v=onepage&q=muslim%20vaishnava&f=false>
> .
>
> Street magic performers, spell healers and other such practicing groups
> are not water tight compartments. There is a big section of this type of
> illusion art-supernatural practitioners who are muslims. All those who
> studied these cultures through direct close observation know that Muslims
> among these use 'Hindu' deity names, 'Hindu' occult material and pooja
> material like Turmeric and Kumkum powders etc. Their 'clients call using
> them names such as Swami, Jogi etc. also alongside names such as Baba etc.
>
> The spell you quoted belongs to this kind of cultural complex where
> Islamic Jogi is common place, not strange and not at all contradictio in
> adiecto.
>
> .............................
>
> I do not know the language used in the spell to the level of being able to
> give word for word meaning to it.
>
> ----------------------------------
>
> Some movement after five years of your waiting ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 9:42 PM, Artur Karp via INDOLOGY <
> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>
>> Five years ago I sent to the List this question:
>>
>> << Mantras in popular Indian magic books - of indrajala type - invoke
>> often two mysterious personages: Ismail Jogi and Nuna/Nona/Luna/Lona
>> Chamarin.
>>
>> Has anyone written a paper on them. A monograph - perhaps?>>
>>
>> There was no answer.
>>
>>
>> One such mantra runs as follows:
>>
>>
>>
>> *Oṁ namo kāmrū des kāmākhyā devī*
>>
>>
>> *Tahāṁ base ismāil jogī*
>>
>>
>> *Ismāil jogi ke tīn beṭā*
>>
>>
>> *Ek toṛe ek pichoṛe*
>>
>>
>> *Ek śīt tijārī goḍe*
>>
>>
>>
>> I am not sure about the meaning of this mantra.
>>
>>
>> Ismail Jogi (contradictio in adiecto) had three sons:
>>
>>
>> one aborted (?), one retarded (?)
>>
>>
>> one coolly (?) in your (?) womb.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would be grateful for your comments,
>>
>>
>>
>> Artur Karp (ret.)
>>
>> Chair of South Indian Studies,
>>
>> University of Warsaw
>>
>> Polska
>>
>> 
>>
>>
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>
>
> --
> Nagaraj Paturi
>
> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.
>
>
> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra
>
> BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala
>
> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies
>
> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,
>
> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA )
>
>
>
>

-- 
Nagaraj Paturi

Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.

BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra

BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala

Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies

FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,

(Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA )

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