[INDOLOGY] New article on Sanskrit

Sun Sep 18 18:25:07 UTC 2016

Let us take the example of रामः च and रामः चरति ।

For ease of communication, saying रामः चरति may seem better (than
रामश्चरति). But even for ease of communication, रामः च does not look good (
रामश्च is the only way you can say that) .

But this question of ease of communication is only modern. रामश्चरति is
natural.

Visandhika pronunciation turns out to be even 'wrong' in compound words
such as विद्युच्छक्तिः ( विद्युत् शक्तिः is not correct. )

On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Artur Karp <karp at uw.edu.pl> wrote:

> भिन्नै रागमदर्शनैः भिन्नै स्स्वतर्ककृतदर्शनै र्न खलु!
>
> -aiḥ or -air before bhinnais?
>
> Have pity on me and remove my doubts,
>
> Artur
>
> PS. Being a Pole and a habitual user of an inflected language, I'd tend to
> write:
>
> bhinn*ai**ḥ* ...darśan*ai**ḥ* ...bhinn*ai**ḥ  .*..darśan*ai**ḥ*
>
> In languages such as Polish (and other Slavic languages) the rules how
> word-endings are to be pronounced when in contact with other words (-*air*,
> *-air*,  *-ais*, *-air*) do not interfere with the rules of writing.
>
> phonological vs. phonetic
>
>
> 2016-09-18 10:23 GMT+02:00 Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi at gmail.com>:
>
>> भिन्नै रागमदर्शनैः भिन्नै स्स्वतर्ककृतदर्शनै र्न खलु!
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Jan E.M. Houben <jemhouben at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Ananya,
>>> Thanks for sharing this valuable argument and position, which not only
>>> deserves close and critical attention of Sanskritists all over the world,
>>> it also deserves to be translated, at least for its main outlines, into
>>> Hindi, Urdu and especially Sanskrit, in order to reach those most directly
>>> concerned.
>>>
>>> Let us take one out of numerous important points in your argument:
>>> “It's [Sanskrit is] part of everything that has to be fought over
>>> to protect the diversity and inclusiveness of India, its secular state
>>> and its
>>> egalitarian Constitution.”
>>> How to say this in Sanskrit?
>>> Several possibilities, here is my proposal:
>>> संस्कृतं भागमेव सर्वस्य योधनीयवस्तुनः,
>>> भारतस्य नानाविधत्व-व्यापकत्व-लौकिकत्वानां च तत्साम्यलक्षितसंविधानस्य च
>>> रक्षणार्थम् ।
>>>
>>> After all, why should we systematically refuse to speak the language of
>>> those about whom we are discussing ? Nevertheless, in Sanskrit studies this
>>> is exactly what has been going on since at least the beginning of the 19th
>>> century.
>>> And was it not precisely the exclusive focus on the archival function
>>> and the systematic neglect of the communicative function of Sanskrit which
>>> contributed significantly to its antiquarianization and to the complete
>>> marginalization of contemporaneous carriers of the Sanskrit tradition?
>>> Q: Was Sanskrit then a living language or means of communication when it
>>> was discovered by westerners ? R: A crucial personality is here Melputtūr
>>> Nārāyaṇa Bhaṭṭa : on the one hand he argued, in the beginning of the 17th
>>> century, for a liberal approach to Sanskrit grammar and gives a Pāṇinian
>>> grammar of “living” Sanskrit
>>> -- see “Pāṇinian grammar of living Sanskrit”: www.academia.edu/28515426
>>> --
>>> on the other hand he was aware of westerners who show both lack of
>>> respect and curiosity for Brahmins (tantudhārin) and their teachings (C.
>>> Rajendran 2008: 64 referring to Prabandhamañjarī ed. N.P. Unni p. 295-296).
>>> In order to deal AT ONCE with the lack of awareness of Sanskrit and its
>>> precious heritage outside India (not counting the very small number of
>>> specialists dispersed over a few academic institutions) AND the danger of
>>> its one-sided excess within India, I propose to invoke the regulatory
>>> concept of “ideodiversity” (मत-विविधता, which, within cultural and
>>> intellectual evolution, is or could be what “biodiversity” जैव-विविधता is
>>> within biological evolution):
>>> see my article “La ideodiversidad como valor planetario”
>>> which recently appeared in: Eadem utraque Europa : revista de historia
>>> cultural e intelectual,
>>> Año 12, No. 17, Agosto 2016, ISSN 1885-7221, pp. 11-42, trilingual
>>> summary at
>>> www.academia.edu/28565726
>>> The entire article can be briefly summarized in Sanskrit by referring to
>>> the view of Bhartrhari
>>> prajñā vivekaṁ labhate bhinnair āgama-darśanaiḥ |
>>> kiyad vā śakyam unnetuṁ svatarkam anudhāvatā ||
>>> (view of Bhartrhari as formulated probably by his student: note, in
>>> addition to other arguments, the exceptional and unnecessary metrical
>>> clumsiness in pāda a ; to write a metrically more smooth pāda a would not
>>> have been that difficult, for instance : prajñā vivekitāṁ yāti)
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Jan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Jan E.M. HOUBEN*
>>>
>>> Directeur d’Études
>>>
>>> Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite
>>>
>>> *École Pratique des Hautes Études*
>>>
>>> *Sciences historiques et philologiques *
>>>
>>> 54, rue Saint-Jacques
>>>
>>> CS 20525 – 75005 Paris
>>>
>>> johannes.houben at ephe.sorbonne.fr
>>>
>>> https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben
>>>
>>> www.ephe.fr
>>>
>>>
>>> On 15 September 2016 at 14:27, Ananya Vajpeyi <vajpeyi at csds.in> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Colleagues,
>>>>
>>>> The fall issue of World Policy Journal, titled "History's Ghosts", is
>>>> just out.
>>>>
>>>> The issue published by Duke University Press journals, is now live
>>>> online <http://www.worldpolicy.org/journal/fall2016>, and here is a direct
>>>> link <http://wpj.dukejournals.org/content/33/3/45.full> to my article
>>>> in it, titled "The Return of Sanskrit".
>>>>
>>>> The Return of Sanskrit
>>>> How an Old Language Got Caught up in India’s New Culture Wars
>>>>
>>>> Indian scholar Ananya Vajpeyi examines the way the ruling Bharatiya
>>>> Janata Party is using Sanskrit to advance a Hindu supremacist agenda. She
>>>> argues that academics need to step out of the ivory tower and resist the
>>>> government’s manipulation of this ancient language.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks and all best,
>>>>
>>>> Ananya Vajpeyi. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> *Ananya Vajpeyi *
>>>> *Fellow*
>>>> *Centre for the Study of Developing Societies*
>>>> *29 Rajpur Road, Civil Lines*
>>>> *New Delhi 110054*
>>>> *e: vajpeyi at csds.in <vajpeyi at csds.in>*
>>>> *ext: 229*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Nagaraj Paturi
>>
>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.
>>
>> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies
>>
>> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,
>>
>> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA )
>>
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Nagaraj Paturi

Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.

Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies

FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,

(Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA )

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