[INDOLOGY] suicide as a result of love

Mon Jun 6 09:46:13 UTC 2016

Dear all,
in Harṣa’s Ratnāvalī Sāgarikā – sure that her love to the king is unsuccesful – will hang herself, but luckily the king arrives in time and saves her. There are certainly many other examples.

Best,
Klaus

Klaus Karttunen
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> On 06 Jun 2016, at 11:50, Philipp Maas <philipp.a.maas at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Dear Dermot and all,
> 
> The story of the “Weaver as Viṣṇu” occurs indeed in Pūrnabhadra’s recension of the Patañcatntra as well as in the exemplar of this recension, the so-called textus simplicior. Pūrnabhadra censored the narrative strongly from the perspective of conservative smārta-Hinduism and left out the motive of suicide out of desire for the princess, which, accordingly only occurs in the textus simplicior.
> 
>  
> For a more comprehensive analysis of the two versions of the narrative see my “On Discourses of Dharma and the Pañcatantra.” Wiener Zeitschrift für die Kunde Südasiens 55 (2013-2014), p. 5-31, of which you find a pre-print draft version here <https://www.academia.edu/13986474/On_Discourses_of_Dharma_and_the_Pa%C3%B1catantra>.
> 
>  
> Best wishes,
> 
>  
> Philipp
> 
> 
> 
> 2016-06-06 10:09 GMT+02:00 <dermot at grevatt.force9.co.uk <mailto:dermot at grevatt.force9.co.uk>>:
> In Purnabhadra's version of the Pancatantra (ed. Hertel 1908 pp. 46-55; tr. A.W. Ryder 1956,
> pp. 89-104), a weaver falls in love with a princess, swoons, then resolves on suicide by fire.
> He is saved by his friend, a chariot-builder or carpenter (rathakAra), who promises to use his
> skill to effect a union, and is spectacularly successful. It's a wonderful story, involving sex,
> politics, and religion.
> 
> This is a mock-heroic example: the motif of suicidal despair resulting from love at first sight,
> which is expected of exalted characters, is transferred to a man of low degree.
> 
> Dermot
> 
> On 6 Jun 2016 at 8:51, Andrew Ollett wrote:
> 
> I have the feeling that this is a relatively common motif in story literature. The one example
> that comes to mind is the Prakrit verse romance Lilavati, in which one of the characters
> (Kuvalayavali) has a "gandharva" wedding with a Gandharva (Citragada), and when her
> father finds out and curses them, she is so overcome with shame that she tries to hang
> herself from a tree. She is stopped at the last moment by her mother Rambha. This is around
> v. 658 in A.N. Upadhye's edition.
> 
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Alex Watson <alex.watson at ashoka.edu.in <mailto:alex.watson at ashoka.edu.in>> wrote:
>     Dear List Members
> 
>     A colleague, Madhavi Menon, who is writing a book entitled 'A History of Desire in
>     India', has asked me the following question. All help appreciated; I will forward your
>     responses to her.
> 
>     "Are there any narratives in Sanskrit/Buddhist literature/philosophy/history that talk
>     about suicide, or atma-hatya, specifically in relation to love and desire?"
> 
>     Yours Alex
> 
>     --
>     Alex Watson
>     Professor of Indian Philosophy
>     Ashoka University
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