From davidpaolo.pierdominicileao at uniroma1.it Tue Feb 2 11:14:05 2016 From: davidpaolo.pierdominicileao at uniroma1.it (David Pierdominici) Date: Tue, 02 Feb 16 12:14:05 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] PDF copy Message-ID: <86F6F685-74AA-42F9-8B29-360CA6124783@uniroma1.it> Dear members, I am looking for a PDF scan copy of an article: Yutaka OJIHARA, "Le Madanasamjivana de Ghanasyama?, Bulletin d??tudes Indiennes, no.4, 1986. Does anyone have it? Many thanks in advance. David Pierdominici PhD candidate Sapienza Universit? di Roma -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From r.mahoney at indica-et-buddhica.org Tue Feb 2 15:42:35 2016 From: r.mahoney at indica-et-buddhica.org (Richard Mahoney) Date: Wed, 03 Feb 16 04:42:35 +1300 Subject: [INDOLOGY] PDF copy In-Reply-To: <86F6F685-74AA-42F9-8B29-360CA6124783@uniroma1.it> Message-ID: <56B0CE6B.5060001@indica-et-buddhica.org> Dear David, On 2/3/2016 00:14, David Pierdominici wrote: > Dear members, > > I am looking for a PDF scan copy of an article: Yutaka OJIHARA, "Le > Madanasamjivana de Ghanasyama?, Bulletin d??tudes Indiennes, no.4, 1986. > Does anyone have it? > Many thanks in advance. The holdings in Germany and Japan: IeB :: Bulletin d??tudes Indiennes http://indica-et-buddhica.org/tabulae/b/bulletin-d-etudes-indiennes-association-francaise-pour-les-etudes-indiennes Scholia ~ Zeitschriftendatenbank (ZDB) http://scholia.indica-et-buddhica.org/search/zdb.sch?attribute=@attr%201=1007&query=8950064&displayform=2&num=1&start=1 Scholia ~ NACSIS-CAT http://scholia.indica-et-buddhica.org/search/nii.sch?attribute=@attr%201=12&query=AA10878141&displayform=2&num=1&start=1 Best, R > David Pierdominici > PhD candidate > Sapienza Universit? di Roma -- Richard Mahoney Littledene Bay Road Oxford 7430 NZ M: +64-21-064-0216 T: +64-3-312-1699 r.mahoney at indica-et-buddhica.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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But Indology, the German included, does not have a method (in the sense that it does not have a single method, as the authors imagine).? Eli Franco has a poor sense of the "internal history" of a text, because the composition history he gives is quite the reverse: our book started as a project on the Mah?bh?rata and the sections on the Bhagavadg?t? were added only later. In fact, our researches on Bhagavadg?t? scholarship after 1969 were still continuing at the time of publication of the book and have only been published now: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11407-016-9187-4. If philologists cannot correctly guess the compositional sequence of texts written today, with two living authors and without the long chain of scribes transmitting them, what reason have we for confidence in their assertions about ancient texts? The authors of ancient texts subjected to this method of "internal criticism" (*innere Kritik*) must be turning in their graves. The linked paper shows how the criteria used for identifying ?layers? and proposing ?textual histories? for the Bhagavadg?t? were unscientific and circular. Unless new criteria are proposed, there is no reason to speak anymore of the Bhagavadg?t??s ?layers? and we can conclude that the whole tradition of ?G?t? criticism? was a sham. Dr. Joydeep Bagchee Zukunftsphilologie: Revisiting the Canons of Textual Scholarship Academia.edu Homepage Oxford Bibliographies Online: Hinduism The Nay Science Reading the Fifth Veda When the Goddess Was a Woman Transcultural Encounters between Germany and India German Indology on OBO Hinduism ___________________ What, then, is Philosophy? Philosophy is the supremely precious. Plotinus, Enneads I.III.5 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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JW Jarrod Whitaker, Ph.D. Associate Professor, Graduate Program Director, Department for the Study of Religions. Faculty, Department of Women's, Gender and Sexuality Studies. Wake Forest University P.O. Box 7212 Winston-Salem, NC 27109 whitakjl at wfu.edu p 336.758.4162 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gthomgt at gmail.com Wed Feb 3 18:43:36 2016 From: gthomgt at gmail.com (George Thompson) Date: Wed, 03 Feb 16 13:43:36 -0500 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Contact information for P. Pratap Kumar? Message-ID: Dear List, We are finishing up editing contributions to the Frits Staal Memorial volume. Mr. Kumar is Emeritus Professor at the University of KwaZulu Natal, South Africa. We were happy to accept a paper by him and we have gone through the early stages with him successfully. But recently we have not received replies from him. If anyone knows him and can send us contact information [off-list, please], we would be most grateful. 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There will also be no new students admitted in 2016 in modern Indian studies, Indology, Southeast Asian studies, Tibetology, Balkan studies, Hebrew, Turkish, Indian language and culture, and ancient Greek." Read the full article at http://www.universityworldnews.com/article.php?story=20160203182208163 -- Professor Dominik Wujastyk* Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity Department of History and Classics University of Alberta, Canada -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From clarsha at mcmaster.ca Thu Feb 4 14:18:33 2016 From: clarsha at mcmaster.ca (Clarke, Shayne) Date: Thu, 04 Feb 16 14:18:33 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] deadline extended for panel proposals XVIIIth Congress of the International Association of Buddhist Studies Message-ID: <7C50543A-7AA2-4FA4-BBDE-940336F6E8C3@mcmaster.ca> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Indian Studies and URPP Asia and Europe Location University of Zurich, Institute of Asian and Oriental Studies, Room RAA E-29, R?mistrasse 59, 8001 Z?rich Description Religious-philosophical texts, doctrines and practices referred to by scholars as ?Tantric? are renowned for propagating not only liberation, but also the acquisition of extra-ordinary powers as a goal initiated adepts should strive for. The latter includes also ritual practices that entail an infringement of the (often Veda based) rules and norms that usual regulate socio-ritual behaviour. For instance, the ritual consumption of ?impure? products of the body, ritualized cannibalism, the use of body parts of the victim in a variety of magic procedures, illicit sexual practices belong to a typical set of transgressive practices that can be found in many early ?aiva and Buddhist Tantras. Encounters with frightening, terrible aspects of gods and goddesses as well as with horrible demonic and other non-human powers are also important aspects of the empowerment of the adepts. These elements are characteristic for Tantrism as a religious formation that has been followed across various Hindu and Buddhist traditions not only in South Asia, but also in South-East and East Asia. The conference aims to explore different levels at which Buddhist and ?aiva Tantras are interconnected. The focus is on the ritual and dogmatic similarities between these two religious traditions in relation to transgressive rituals and encounters of the practitioners with frightening and ambivalent beings *(yogin?s, ??kin?s, r?k?asas*, etc.) brought about by those rituals. It shall be discussed how the inclusion of transgression and the horrible is conceptualized in Buddhist and ?aiva texts, and in which ways such practices are related to or embedded in standard normative contexts. This event inaugurates the *Zurich International Conference on Indian Literature and Philosophy (ZICILP). *This conference is dedicated to the study of the history and selected themes of Indian Literature and Philosophy in the past and present. This international conference aims to bring together scholars from various fields for discussing their research and further developing the scope and the methods of study. The conference is regularly hosted by the Department of Indian Studies of the Institute of Asian and Oriental Studies, University of Zurich. *Program:* http://www.asienundeuropa.uzh.ch/events/conferences/zicilp01.html With my best wishes, Sincerely Yours, Olga Serbaeva Saraogi Dr. Olga Serbaeva Saraogi Asien-Orient-Institut, Abteilung Indologie Universit?t Z?rich R?mistr. 59 8001 Z?rich Switzerland +41 44 634 22 81 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The workshop focuses on recent developments in the study of and teaching about Theravada Buddhism in South and Southeast Asia. Interdisciplinary approaches in textual and ethnographic studies in premodern/modern contexts as well as teaching undergraduates about Buddhist histories and practices, changing academic environments and student demographics will be discussed in workshop sessions. Please see our webpage at https://car.clas.asu.edu/aclsho-workshop for the application, instructions, list of workshop faculty and funding opportunities. The full ad is attached as a pdf to this e-mail. Thank you for your assistance, Lora Kile Program Coordinator Center for Asian Research 480.727.4153 e-mail: asia at asu.edu website: car.clas.asu.edu Instructional Professional *School of Historical, Philosophical and Religious Studies College of Liberal Arts and Sciences *Arizona State University | P.O. 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Applicants must be French or EU nationals and have obtained a PhD following a viva voce examination held in or after 2010. This funding is intended to enable Humanities and Social Science researchers specializing in Asian Studies to carry out work in the field or in libraries and archives. Interdisciplinary projects, and/or associating EFEO scholars and Centres are encouraged. Mobility is not required. Duration of contract: 4-6 months Deadline for applications: 1 March 2016 Period of funding: Between June and December 2016. Total number of salaried months available for this call: 16 Benefits: The proposed monthly net salary is 1 600 ? All application materials should be sent by email no later than March 1st, 2016. We will then notify all applicants of the Selection Committee?s decisions no later than the end of April. Please visit our website (http://www.efeo.fr/base.php?code=881 ) for more detailed information. Should you have any questions concerning this programme, please feel free to contact us via email at claire.prillard at efeo.net or by phone (+33 1 53 70 18 60). Yours, with best wishes, --- Claire Prillard (Ms.) Assistant to the Director Secretary Fellowship Programme Ecole fran?aise d?Extr?me-Orient 22, avenue du Pr?sident Wilson 75116 Paris, France Tel : +33 1 53 70 18 60 Fax : +33 1 53 70 87 60 www.efeo.fr -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gaiapintucci at gmail.com Fri Feb 5 18:08:57 2016 From: gaiapintucci at gmail.com (Gaia Pintucci) Date: Fri, 05 Feb 16 19:08:57 +0100 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_1)_King_M=C4=81nas=C4=81hi_2)_Dhane=C5=9Bvar=C4=81la=E1=B9=83k=C4=81ra?= Message-ID: Dear List, while editing the ???g?ratara?gi??, an unpublished commentary on the Amaru?ataka by a certain S?ryad?sa, I came across the name of a king: M?nas?hi. As the author's father seems to have worked for him, dating the king might prove to be decisive for the purpose of (roughly) dating S?ryad?sa. I could find out that the Tomara Man Singh (1486-1516) is recorded as M?nas?hi in at least one inscription (Rohtas Fort, Bihar) and that secondary sources mention many M?nas?hi in Nepal. The terminus post quem of the ???g?ratara?gi?? is the beginning of the 13th c., while its terminus ante quem is 1707 AD. Is the name M?nas?hi known to anyone, with this or other spellings (M?na??hi, etc.)? The same commentary mentions a work called Dhane?var?la?k?ra (one ms against two reads "ca nekhar?la?k?ra", but this is obviously a corruption), is it familiar to anybody? With best wishes, Gaia Pintucci Universit?t Hamburg Asien-Afrika-Institut Abt. f?r Kultur und Geschichte Indiens und Tibets Doktorandenkolleg Geisteswissenschaften Alsterterrasse 1 D-20354 Hamburg Germany gaiapintucci at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From drdj at austin.utexas.edu Fri Feb 5 21:25:04 2016 From: drdj at austin.utexas.edu (Donald R Davis) Date: Fri, 05 Feb 16 21:25:04 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Position Announcement: Lecturer in Sanskrit, University of Texas at Austin Message-ID: http://apply.interfolio.com/33937 The Department of Asian Studies at the University of Texas at Austin is seeking a full-time lecturer in the Sanskrit language, to begin September 1st, 2016. The successful candidate will be responsible for teaching three courses per semester (one each at the elementary and intermediate levels, plus a content course in an appropriate discipline, preferably in the fields of literature, religious studies, or cultural history). The ability to teach courses in a modern South Asian vernacular at the advanced level will be considered a plus. Located at the flagship campus of the University of Texas System, the Department of Asian Studies provides an excellent and exciting context for teaching and research in the classical and modern languages of the South Asian region. QUALIFICATIONS Candidates should have a minimum of a Master's degree (Ph.D. is preferred) in Sanskrit or a related field and a record of teaching excellence in the university context. The successful candidate will be required to complete the Federal Employment Eligibility Verification form, I-9, and will be required to present acceptable and original documents to prove identity and authorization to work in the United States. The University of Texas at Austin is an Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action employer committed to a diverse faculty, staff, and student body. Women and minority candidates are strongly encouraged to apply. APPLICATION INSTRUCTIONS Interested candidates are invited to upload: 1) a cover letter detailing qualifications and teaching experience, 2) a detailed curriculum vitae, and 3) three confidential letters of recommendation. The deadline for applications is March 15, 2016. Please direct all questions to Dr. Martha Selby at mas at austin.utexas.edu with the words "Sanskrit search" in the subject line. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From scharfpm7 at gmail.com Fri Feb 5 21:58:39 2016 From: scharfpm7 at gmail.com (Peter Scharf) Date: Fri, 05 Feb 16 16:58:39 -0500 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]=09Y=C4=81ska's_Nirukta_-_Digital_editions_and_word_lists?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sorry for the late reply, but you can find a sandhi-analyzed version of Sarup's edition of the Sanskrit text of the Nirukta on the Sanskrit Library website under Texts. http://sanskritlibrary.org/catalogsText/nirukta.html On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 11:41 AM, David and Nancy Reigle wrote: > Dear Martin, > > The edition and translation of the Nirukta (and Nigha??u) by Lakshman > Sarup was originally published in four parts: Introduction; English > translation; Sanskrit text; Indices and Appendices. The Motilal Banarsidass > reprints include only the first three of these, despite their subtitle. The > fourth volume, of Indices and Appendices, is the part that makes this text > useful for reference purposes. Not only does it allow one to find a > particular word in the Nirukta (or Nigha??u), it also serves as a > glossary, since it gives English equivalents throughout. Your query has > spurred me on to scan my copy of this necessary volume and post it with the > Sanskrit texts here: > http://prajnaquest.fr/blog/sanskrit-texts-3/sanskrit-hindu-texts/ > > Best regards, > > David Reigle > Colorado, U.S.A. > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Martin Gluckman > wrote: > >> Dear Friends, >> >> I am searching for digital editions of Y?ska's Nirukta (both the source >> text and any translations done till date) and any other digital material in >> this light (word lists with definitions as given in any >> translations/commentary and so forth). >> >> With much appreciation in advance, >> >> Martin Gluckman >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -- ****************** Peter M. Scharf scharfpm7 at g mail.com ****************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com Sat Feb 6 06:41:34 2016 From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi) Date: Sat, 06 Feb 16 12:11:34 +0530 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_1)_King_M=C4=81nas=C4=81hi_2)_Dhane=C5=9Bvar=C4=81la=E1=B9=83k=C4=81ra?= Message-ID: 1. Maanasa is the name of a goddess worshipped in the form of a snake , the cult prevalent in Bengal, some parts of the north-east India and Nepal. Maanasaahi can be maanasa + ahi 2. Maan + s'aah can be the king by name Maan . But Maans'aahi derived from this should mean kinghood of a person/ dynasty by name s'aah. -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The "kha" is also easy to explain, since it is often an alternate form for "?a". In many parts of India, "?a" is actually pronounced "kha". "Purukha" etc. So a scribe reading aloud would be saying a word that more or less sounded identical to /dhane?ar?la?k?ra/ to hearers. It would be even better if your MS read "canekhor?la?k?ra". Best, Dominik ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gaiapintucci at gmail.com Sat Feb 6 18:59:47 2016 From: gaiapintucci at gmail.com (Gaia Pintucci) Date: Sat, 06 Feb 16 19:59:47 +0100 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]=091)_King_M=C4=81nas=C4=81hi_2)_Dhane=C5=9Bvar=C4=81la=E1=B9=83k=C4=81ra?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thank you for your contribution. All the mss of this commentary I could access are in devan?gar?. I would add that certain devan?gar? ?va and sva can be easily mistaken for kha. Even if we do not consider the pronounciation and we rather stay on the paleographic level, it is very easy to explain how dhane?vara? could become ca nekhara?. That's why I took for granted that ca nekhar?lamk?ra is just a corruption of dhane?var?la?k?ra and as such not worth taking in consideration. Best, Gaia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gaiapintucci at gmail.com Sat Feb 6 19:16:44 2016 From: gaiapintucci at gmail.com (Gaia Pintucci) Date: Sat, 06 Feb 16 20:16:44 +0100 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]=091)_King_M=C4=81nas=C4=81hi_2)_Dhane=C5=9Bvar=C4=81la=E1=B9=83k=C4=81ra?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thank you very much. Actually my thoughts were going a different way: if one Man Singh could be recorded as M?nas?hi, this same phenomenon could have occurred in the case of other Man Singhs. However, if I am not wrong, there have been more than one Man Singh in Northern India (for certain reasons I am inclined not too consider Nepal, although for the moment I can't rule out that this king was from Nepal), so one does not know exactly where to start digging. Maybe someone can recommend some (history) books, especially focussing on the North-West of India? Best, Gaia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrinalkaul81 at gmail.com Sun Feb 7 07:37:13 2016 From: mrinalkaul81 at gmail.com (Mrinal Kaul) Date: Sun, 07 Feb 16 13:07:13 +0530 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_J.C._Chatterjee's_preface_to_the_=C5=9Aivas=C5=ABtravimar=C5=9Bin=C4=AB_by_K=E1=B9=A3emar=C4=81ja?= Message-ID: Dear All, I am looking for the information on how many Mss did J.C. Chatterjee use in editing the first volume of the *Kashmir Series of Texts and Studies* viz. *?ivas?travimar?in?* by K?emar?ja (1911 CE). The PDF copy of the text I have (most probably the one scanned by Muktabodha Institute) is missing the first one or two pages of J.C. Chatterjee's preface where most probably he has listed the Mss he used for preparing the edition. My original copy of this edition is back home and our library here does not have KSTS. Would someone be kind enough to send me a scan of the first one or two pages of J.C. Chatterjee's preface to the above mentioned edition? I shall be truly grateful. Thanks very much in advance. Mrinal ******************************** Mrinal Kaul Manipal Centre for Philosophy and Humanities (MCPH) Dr TMA Pai Planetarium Complex Alevoor Road Manipal, Udupi 576104 Karnataka, INDIA ********************************* Tel: +91-820-2923567 (O) Tel: +91-820-2574838 (R) https://manipal.academia.edu/MrinalKaul http://mcphcommunity.org e-mail: mrinal.kaul at manipal.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin.gansten at pbhome.se Sun Feb 7 10:15:35 2016 From: martin.gansten at pbhome.se (Martin Gansten) Date: Sun, 07 Feb 16 11:15:35 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Iraka? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <56B71947.2080609@pbhome.se> In the astrological work /T?jikamukt?vali /by Tuka (1.41) there is a compound /kh?bdh?rakebhya? /which, from the context, has to mean 'from forty and ten, [respectively]'. This is supported by the explicatory numerals inserted by several mss: /kh?bdh? 40 rakebhya? 10/, etc; but I haven't found anything like /iraka/?raka/ in any dictionary or list of /bh?tasa?khy? /numerals. (Some mss emend to /-?khakebhya?/, which doesn't really help.) If anyone has come across this way of expressing the value 10 elsewhere, I'd be grateful for a reference, and even more so for an explanation of the word. Martin Gansten -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hellwig7 at gmx.de Sun Feb 7 12:21:47 2016 From: hellwig7 at gmx.de (hellwig7 at gmx.de) Date: Sun, 07 Feb 16 13:21:47 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Sentence ends In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear list members, this question has been asked before, nevertheless, I try it again: Are there any guidelines or rules that describe where a Sanskrit sentence ends, esp. in metrical texts such as the Mbh or Ram? Or, formulated differently, where a modern editor may insert a full stop or period? I would be highly interested both in modern reflections and in ideas brought forward in Indian grammar. I am aware of the papers about Sanskrit sentences written by Matilal (1966), Cardona (1975), and Deshpande (1991), and of the blog of Elisa Freschi. To obtain some quantitative support, I have designed a short questionnaire on Google Docs, containing about 10 extracts mainly from the MBh. If you have a few minutes of free time, you may have a look at it, and add a few periods. Here's the short link (you need to copy the greyed text at the top of each question into the answer field ... a bit too much copying for me): https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1em966fiCyaMgNPEx-7LGmQyb1jny775HyPdO1aObT3w/viewform?usp=send_form And this is a link with prefilled answer fields, which is the more comfortable solution. If it does not come through on Indology, please send me a mail: 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Oliver --- PD Dr. Oliver Hellwig University of D?sseldorf, Germany From nmisra at gmail.com Mon Feb 8 04:19:06 2016 From: nmisra at gmail.com (Nityanand Misra) Date: Mon, 08 Feb 16 09:49:06 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Iraka? In-Reply-To: <56B71947.2080609@pbhome.se> Message-ID: On 7 February 2016 at 15:45, Martin Gansten wrote: > In the astrological work *T?jikamukt?vali *by Tuka (1.41) there is a > compound *kh?bdh?rakebhya? *which, from the context, has to mean 'from > forty and ten, [respectively]'. This is supported by the explicatory > numerals inserted by several mss: *kh?bdh? 40 rakebhya? 10*, etc; but I > haven't found anything like *iraka/?raka* in any dictionary or list of *bh?tasa?khy? > *numerals. (Some mss emend to *-?khakebhya?*, which doesn't really help.) > If anyone has come across this way of expressing the value 10 elsewhere, > I'd be grateful for a reference, and even more so for an explanation of the > word. > > Is the five-syllable word part of a verse, e.g. begins with the 13th syllable of a ??rd?lavikr??ita? Wondering if there is a possibility of it being *kh?bdhikhakebhya?*, with the short vowel: Is the emendation with *-i**khakebhya? *by any chance? If so then the reading *kh?bdh**ikhakebhya? *makes perfect sense as *ka* in Sanskrit means Brahman, standing for the number one. Then *kha-ka* would mean zero-one or the number ten*. * The forms *kh?bdh**?rakebhya? / **kh?bdh**?khakebhya? *with the long vowels still need an explanation. With *kh?bdh**?rakebhya?, *one option is to assume *ira/?ra* as somehow standing for zero, but this is also problematic as *?ra *means the wind: *?rayati iti **?ra?*. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin.gansten at pbhome.se Mon Feb 8 07:28:49 2016 From: martin.gansten at pbhome.se (Martin Gansten) Date: Mon, 08 Feb 16 08:28:49 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Iraka? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <56B843B1.8030102@pbhome.se> Thank you, Nityanand. Yes, the long ? is required by the metre (upaj?ti: /kh?bdh?rakebhya? smarasi?ha??str?t/). I hadn't considered /?ra /'wind'. To represent 0, I suppose it would have to be equated somehow with 'sky', which seems unlikely. But could 'wind' be equated with 'direction' (of the compass)? It is in some languages, but I've never come across it in Sanskrit. If it were, it could mean 10. But perhaps that's wishful thinking. Martin Den 2016-02-08 kl. 05:19, skrev Nityanand Misra: > > > On 7 February 2016 at 15:45, Martin Gansten > wrote: > > In the astrological work /T?jikamukt?vali /by Tuka (1.41) there is > a compound /kh?bdh?rakebhya? /which, from the context, has to mean > 'from forty and ten, [respectively]'. This is supported by the > explicatory numerals inserted by several mss: /kh?bdh? 40 > rakebhya? 10/, etc; but I haven't found anything like > /iraka/?raka/ in any dictionary or list of /bh?tasa?khy? > /numerals. (Some mss emend to /-?khakebhya?/, which doesn't really > help.) If anyone has come across this way of expressing the value > 10 elsewhere, I'd be grateful for a reference, and even more so > for an explanation of the word. > > > Is the five-syllable word part of a verse, e.g. begins with the 13th > syllable of a ??rd?lavikr??ita? Wondering if there is a possibility of > it being /kh?bdhikhakebhya?/, with the short vowel: Is the emendation > with /-i//khakebhya? /by any chance? If so then the reading > /kh?bdh//ikhakebhya? /makes perfect sense as /ka/ in Sanskrit means > Brahman, standing for the number one. Then /kha-ka/ would mean > zero-one or the number ten/. / > > The forms /kh?bdh//?rakebhya? / //kh?bdh//?khakebhya? /with the long > vowels still need an explanation. With /kh?bdh//?rakebhya?, /one > option is to assume /ira/?ra/ as somehow standing for zero, but this > is also problematic as /?ra /means the wind: /?rayati iti //?ra?/. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hhhock at illinois.edu Mon Feb 8 07:59:19 2016 From: hhhock at illinois.edu (Hock, Hans Henrich) Date: Mon, 08 Feb 16 07:59:19 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Sentence ends In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <47F94378-937C-4583-8289-35299D09BE5B@illinois.edu> Dear Colleague, I address the issue in my contribution to Peter Scharf?s edited volume on Sanskrit syntax, but my observations won?t (can?t) provide the kind of definite answer that you may be looking for. If you don?t have access to Peter Scharf?s volume I could send you a copy of my contribution offlist. All the best, Hans Henrich On 7 Feb 2016, at 06:21, hellwig7 at gmx.de wrote: > Dear list members, > > this question has been asked before, nevertheless, I try it again: > Are there any guidelines or rules that describe where a Sanskrit sentence ends, esp. in metrical texts such as the Mbh or Ram? Or, formulated differently, where a modern editor may insert a full stop or period? > > I would be highly interested both in modern reflections and in ideas brought forward in Indian grammar. I am aware of the papers about Sanskrit sentences written by Matilal (1966), Cardona (1975), and Deshpande (1991), and of the blog of Elisa Freschi. > > To obtain some quantitative support, I have designed a short questionnaire on Google Docs, containing about 10 extracts mainly from the MBh. If you have a few minutes of free time, you may have a look at it, and add a few periods. > > Here's the short link (you need to copy the greyed text at the top of each question into the answer field ... a bit too much copying for me): > https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1em966fiCyaMgNPEx-7LGmQyb1jny775HyPdO1aObT3w/viewform?usp=send_form > > And this is a link with prefilled answer fields, which is the more comfortable solution. If it does not come through on Indology, please send me a mail: > 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> > > Thanks in advance! > Oliver > > --- PD Dr. Oliver Hellwig > University of D?sseldorf, Germany > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) From mrinalkaul81 at gmail.com Mon Feb 8 11:53:56 2016 From: mrinalkaul81 at gmail.com (Mrinal Kaul) Date: Mon, 08 Feb 16 17:23:56 +0530 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_J.C._Chatterjee's_preface_to_the_=C5=9Aivas=C5=ABtravimar=C5=9Bin=C4=AB_by_K=E1=B9=A3emar=C4=81ja?= In-Reply-To: <263AADEB1C61774CB059F93BD3A6940B061551D5@MBX06.ad.oak.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: Many thanks to Rohana Seneviratne for arranging a copy for me. I have it now. Thanks so much. Mrinal > ------------------------------ > *From:* INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] on behalf of > Mrinal Kaul [mrinalkaul81 at gmail.com] > *Sent:* Sunday, February 07, 2016 7:37 AM > *To:* Indology List > *Subject:* [INDOLOGY] J.C. Chatterjee's preface to the ?ivas?travimar?in? > by K?emar?ja > > Dear All, > > I am looking for the information on how many Mss did J.C. Chatterjee use > in editing the first volume of the *Kashmir Series of Texts and Studies* > viz. *?ivas?travimar?in?* by K?emar?ja (1911 CE). The PDF copy of the > text I have (most probably the one scanned by Muktabodha Institute) is > missing the first one or two pages of J.C. Chatterjee's preface where most > probably he has listed the Mss he used for preparing the edition. > > My original copy of this edition is back home and our library here does > not have KSTS. Would someone be kind enough to send me a scan of the first > one or two pages of J.C. Chatterjee's preface to the above mentioned > edition? I shall be truly grateful. > > Thanks very much in advance. > > Mrinal > > ******************************** > Mrinal Kaul > Manipal Centre for Philosophy and Humanities (MCPH) > Dr TMA Pai Planetarium Complex > Alevoor Road > Manipal, Udupi 576104 > Karnataka, INDIA > ********************************* > Tel: +91-820-2923567 (O) > Tel: +91-820-2574838 (R) > https://manipal.academia.edu/MrinalKaul > http://mcphcommunity.org > e-mail: mrinal.kaul at manipal.edu > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dchakra at hotmail.de Mon Feb 8 16:33:11 2016 From: dchakra at hotmail.de (Dr. Debabrata Chakrabarti) Date: Mon, 08 Feb 16 16:33:11 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Publication of Two Translations of German Literature into Bengali Language! Message-ID: indology at list.indology.info Dear List Members, This is to inform all the List Members that my following two Bengali translations have been published this year in 2016 at the Kolkata Book Fair. Since the Bengali Language and its literature including translation of twentieth-century European works into Bengali is likely to fall under the periphery of Indology in an unique way, I think it would be of interest to members to know how contemporary Bengali literature is expanding through translations. 1. Tin Drum (G?nter Gras, Die Blechtrommel, 1959), 2015, Translated from German into Bengali, Rupali Publications, Kolkata, Translated by Debabrata Chakrabarti; 2. Duino Elijiguli (Rainer Maria Rilke, Duineser Elegien, 1922), 2015, Translated from German into Bengali, Winternitz Books, Kolkata, Translated by Debabrata Chakrabarti. Please see the covers from the above attachments. Regards Debabrata Chakrabarti Department of Languages (German Language & Literature) Calcutta University ???This body is like a musical instrument; what you hear depends upon how you play it.??? ??? Anandamayi Ma ???Inside every human being there exists a special heaven, whole and unbroken.??? - Paracelsus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: RPL008808.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 184833 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Please > advertise the positions to any suitable students. The deadline for > applications is 31st March 2016. > > Yours, with best wishes, > > Jim > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: CallforSixPhDPositionsattheUniversityofAdamMickiewicz.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 117453 bytes Desc: not available URL: From kauzeya at gmail.com Mon Feb 8 20:14:58 2016 From: kauzeya at gmail.com (Jonathan Silk) Date: Mon, 08 Feb 16 21:14:58 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] hard to know what to title this one Message-ID: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-35489971 -- J. Silk Leiden University Leiden University Institute for Area Studies, LIAS Matthias de Vrieshof 3, Room 0.05b 2311 BZ Leiden The Netherlands copies of my publications may be found at http://www.buddhismandsocialjustice.com/silk_publications.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From will.sweetman at gmail.com Mon Feb 8 20:26:56 2016 From: will.sweetman at gmail.com (Will Sweetman) Date: Tue, 09 Feb 16 09:26:56 +1300 Subject: [INDOLOGY] "Drinking the washings of sacred writings" Message-ID: <56B8FA10.3040808@gmail.com> A colleague has asked about an expression recorded in the 1970s in Fiji during research on traditional healing among Indo-Fijians: "drinking the washings of sacred writings". I'd be grateful for any suggestions of what this means. Best wishes Will From Palaniappa at aol.com Mon Feb 8 22:57:16 2016 From: Palaniappa at aol.com (Sudalaimuthu Palaniappan) Date: Mon, 08 Feb 16 16:57:16 -0600 Subject: A new translation of Andal's poetry Message-ID: <9C6C2AE9-1491-46F3-A6FA-488BE4D65D39@aol.com> Some of the members may be interested in this article. http://scroll.in/article/803142/why-a-single-poem-by-andal-needs-four-different-translations Regards, Palaniappan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rajam at earthlink.net Tue Feb 9 00:37:30 2016 From: rajam at earthlink.net (rajam) Date: Mon, 08 Feb 16 16:37:30 -0800 Subject: [INDOLOGY] "Drinking the washings of sacred writings" In-Reply-To: <56B8FA10.3040808@gmail.com> Message-ID: For whatever its worth ? there?s an old adage in Tamil expressing a similar thought: ?????????? ?????????? meaning ?dissolving something hard to digest and drinking it? Regards, rajam > On Feb 8, 2016, at 12:26 PM, Will Sweetman wrote: > > A colleague has asked about an expression recorded in the 1970s in Fiji during research on traditional healing among Indo-Fijians: "drinking the washings of sacred writings". > > I'd be grateful for any suggestions of what this means. > > Best wishes > > Will > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From witzel at fas.harvard.edu Tue Feb 9 03:02:00 2016 From: witzel at fas.harvard.edu (Michael Witzel) Date: Mon, 08 Feb 16 22:02:00 -0500 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Doctoral Call Message-ID: <9E7D78CC-761C-4E9F-97A8-85E2EC1C0BBE@fas.harvard.edu> With my apologies for cross posting. I have been asked to transmit the following offer of 6 doctoral positions: ======================= I am here sending you a PDF with an open call for six doctoral student positions in a research project on narrative modes of classical, medieval and modern historiography in India, China, and Tibet. The project, which is funded by the European Research Council, is running at Adam Mickiewicz University in Poznan, Poland. The positions are in classical Indology, modern Indian studies, medieval Indo-Persian studies, medieval Tibetan Studies, classical-medieval Sinology, and modern Chinese studies. The three-year positions are tuition-free and come with a small stipend. I would be most grateful if you could help me spread the call to prospective applicants, whether through personal exchange, publicizing the call at your department, sharing it with colleagues, announcing it on academic email lists, or similar. The application deadline is March 31. Dr. Ulrich Timme Kragh Associate Professor, University of Copenhagen Principal Investigator of European Research Council (ERC) Consolidator Project: "Narrative Modes of Historical Discourse in Asia" (NAMO) Publications downloadable at: https://ku-dk.academia.edu/UlrichTimmeKragh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: CallforSixPhDPositionsattheUniversityofAdamMickiewicz.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 117453 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl Tue Feb 9 07:58:40 2016 From: H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl (Tieken, H.J.H.) Date: Tue, 09 Feb 16 07:58:40 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] hard to know what to title this one In-Reply-To: Message-ID: An Indian citizen suing Rama: what is new? See Richard H. Davis, Lives of Indian Images, p. 251, where a legal quarrel is described between a western art collector and Siva. "In his decision Kennedy ruled that Siva, embodied in the linga at Visvanathasvami temple, as a juristic person embodying the temple founder's pious intention, did have a claim to the Nataraja image superior to that of Bumper's [the western collector] claim. [...] The divine person Siva could not appear in an English court, since Supreme Beings are precluded. However, as Hindus well know, Siva has always been adept at assuming other forms and strategic manifestations to carry out his purposes on earth, and in this case it would seem he adopted the relatively subtle incarnation of a juristic personality as a way of regaining the Pathur Nataraja image." Best, Herman Tieken Herman Tieken Stationsweg 58 2515 BP Den Haag The Netherlands 00 31 (0)70 2208127 website: hermantieken.com ________________________________ Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Jonathan Silk [kauzeya at gmail.com] Verzonden: maandag 8 februari 2016 21:14 Aan: Indology Onderwerp: [INDOLOGY] hard to know what to title this one http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-35489971 -- J. Silk Leiden University Leiden University Institute for Area Studies, LIAS Matthias de Vrieshof 3, Room 0.05b 2311 BZ Leiden The Netherlands copies of my publications may be found at http://www.buddhismandsocialjustice.com/silk_publications.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(416) 978-5711 andha? tama? pravi?anti ye ?vidy?m up?sate tato bh?ya iva te tamo ya u vidy?y?? rat?? || B?had?ra?yaka Upanisad IV.4.10 ?Those who worship ignorance enter into blind darkness. Those who are devoted to knowledge enter, as it were, into a greater darkness.? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin.gansten at pbhome.se Wed Feb 10 19:42:48 2016 From: martin.gansten at pbhome.se (Martin Gansten) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 16 20:42:48 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Shodhaka-pustaka In-Reply-To: <56B843B1.8030102@pbhome.se> Message-ID: <56BB92B8.9060807@pbhome.se> In a MS of a text marked in the margins as a commentary (?ippa??), the colophon refers to the text instead as a ?odhaka-pustaka. I haven't encountered this term before, and would be interested to know if it is a common one. Martin Gansten From jacob at fabularasa.dk Thu Feb 11 08:36:50 2016 From: jacob at fabularasa.dk (jacob at fabularasa.dk) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 16 09:36:50 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Cuts at U. of Copenhagen include indology In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <6ac390c73e7f0ed81981fc8274ce09d2@fabularasa.dk> Tibetology is the first to go. More is likely to follow. Depressing stuff. http://universitypost.dk/article/tibetology-shut-down-university-copenhagen Best, Jacob Jacob Schmidt-Madsen PhD Fellow (Indology) Department of Cross-Cultural and Regional Studies University of Copenhagen Denmark Dominik Wujastyk skrev den 2016-02-04 15:07: > "Copenhagen University ? the largest research and education > institution in the country ? has this week announced that it is > cutting 532 jobs of professors, researchers and administrative staff, > due to government austerity measures. > > "The job losses will amount to 7.4% of the total workforce at the > university and will begin by terminating the employment of 209 people > next week. There will also be 255 voluntary redundancies, and 68 > positions not filled. In addition, some 61 jobs will be shortened in > hours. > ... > > "The university also announced that it will cut the number of PhD > places by 10% in future years. > There will also be no new students admitted in 2016 in modern Indian > studies, Indology, Southeast Asian studies, Tibetology, Balkan > studies, Hebrew, Turkish, Indian language and culture, and ancient > Greek." > > Read the full article at > http://www.universityworldnews.com/article.php?story=20160203182208163 > [1] > > -- > > Professor Dominik Wujastyk* [2] > Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity > > Department of History and Classics [3] > University of Alberta, Canada > > > Links: > ------ > [1] > http://www.universityworldnews.com/article.php?story=20160203182208163 > [2] http://ualberta.Academia.edu/DominikWujastyk > [3] http://historyandclassics.ualberta.ca/ > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options > or unsubscribe) From antonio.jardim at gmail.com Thu Feb 11 08:50:23 2016 From: antonio.jardim at gmail.com (Antonio Ferreira-Jardim) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 16 18:50:23 +1000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Cuts at U. of Copenhagen include indology In-Reply-To: <6ac390c73e7f0ed81981fc8274ce09d2@fabularasa.dk> Message-ID: Truly depressing indeed. Can I ask if there have been any attempts made to establish a privately funded Professorship in Tibetan Studies or cognate at Copenhagen University? Such privately funded or endowed positions in Classics seem to be relatively immune from internecine cuts. Kind regards, Antonio Ferreira-Jardim UQ On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 6:36 PM, wrote: > Tibetology is the first to go. More is likely to follow. Depressing stuff. > > http://universitypost.dk/article/tibetology-shut-down-university-copenhagen > > Best, > Jacob > > Jacob Schmidt-Madsen > PhD Fellow (Indology) > Department of Cross-Cultural and Regional Studies > University of Copenhagen > Denmark > > > Dominik Wujastyk skrev den 2016-02-04 15:07: >> >> "Copenhagen University ? the largest research and education >> institution in the country ? has this week announced that it is >> cutting 532 jobs of professors, researchers and administrative staff, >> due to government austerity measures. >> >> "The job losses will amount to 7.4% of the total workforce at the >> university and will begin by terminating the employment of 209 people >> next week. There will also be 255 voluntary redundancies, and 68 >> positions not filled. In addition, some 61 jobs will be shortened in >> hours. >> ... >> >> "The university also announced that it will cut the number of PhD >> places by 10% in future years. >> There will also be no new students admitted in 2016 in modern Indian >> studies, Indology, Southeast Asian studies, Tibetology, Balkan >> studies, Hebrew, Turkish, Indian language and culture, and ancient >> Greek." >> >> Read the full article at >> http://www.universityworldnews.com/article.php?story=20160203182208163 >> [1] >> >> -- >> >> Professor Dominik Wujastyk* [2] >> Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity >> >> Department of History and Classics [3] >> University of Alberta, Canada >> >> >> Links: >> ------ >> [1] http://www.universityworldnews.com/article.php?story=20160203182208163 >> [2] http://ualberta.Academia.edu/DominikWujastyk >> [3] http://historyandclassics.ualberta.ca/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >> or unsubscribe) > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) From gaiapintucci at gmail.com Thu Feb 11 10:02:41 2016 From: gaiapintucci at gmail.com (Gaia Pintucci) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 16 11:02:41 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] use of the title "deva" (Malwa, beg. 13th c.) Message-ID: Dear List, was the title "deva" used only with reference to someone who has already been consecrated as king or generally to any (male?) of royal descent? Arjunavarman I of the Param?ras (Malwa, beg. of the 13th c.) styles himself "Arjunavarmadeva" in his introduction to his commentary on the Amaru?ataka. I was wondering if it is legitimate to conclude from that that he was already on the throne at the time when he composed the ??k?. Best, Gaia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paoloe.rosati at gmail.com Thu Feb 11 17:16:05 2016 From: paoloe.rosati at gmail.com (Paolo Eugenio Rosati) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 16 22:46:05 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Dakkaravasini/Tamreshvari temple in Paya? Message-ID: <56bcc195.e2a1420a.94a1.ffffcdb9@mx.google.com> Dear indologists, today I read a D.C. Sircar contribute on ancient Assam history. He wrote that according with an inscription found in Paya (Arunachal Pradesh), there was an ancient Dakkaravasini/Tamreshvari temple which was obscured and replaced by the Dakkaravasini/Tamreshvari temple of Sadiya. I'd like to know if anyone has ever been in Paya (near Tezu/Teju), and if there are archaeological evidences there. I'm going to Sadiya next week and if there is anything of interest I'll manage to get a PAP for Arunachal. Best, Paolo Paolo E. Rosati Oriental Archaeologist PhD candidate in "Civilisations of Asia & Africa" South Asia Section Dep. Italian Institute of Oriental Studies (ISO) 'Sapienza' University of Rome paoloe.rosati at uniroma1.it paoloe.rosati at gmail.com Mobile: (+39) 3387383472 Skype: paoloe.rosati -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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All the best, Patrick McCartney PhD Candidate School of Culture, History & Language College of the Asia-Pacific The Australian National University Canberra, Australia, 0200 Skype - psdmccartney Phone + Whatsapp: +61 414 954 748 - *https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=241756978&trk=nav_responsive_tab_profile * - *https://anu-au.academia.edu/patrickmccartney * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy6lVABgjmg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVqBD_2P4Pg http://youtu.be/y3XfjbwqC_g http://trinityroots.bandcamp.com/track/all-we-be -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From harshadehejia at hotmail.com Fri Feb 12 02:59:52 2016 From: harshadehejia at hotmail.com (Harsha Dehejia) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 16 21:59:52 -0500 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Balagopalastuti Message-ID: Friends: I understand that the Wellcome Trust has a set of the Balagoplastuti. Who is the person I should contact and at what address? Kind regards. HarshaProf. Harsha V. 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In the Hindi-speaking states, there was place for Sanskrit within the three language formula. This change in policy drastically reduced the number of schools offering Sanskrit in states like Maharashtra. It remains to be seen how this new report submitted to the Govt of India will alter the teaching of Sanskrit. -- Madhav M. Deshpande Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics Department of Asian Languages and Cultures 202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111 The University of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48104-1608, USA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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An active engagement in international research networks is expected. "Applications are invited in all areas of Tantric Studies, though particular consideration will be given to those specializing in the Shivaite and/or Buddhist Tantric traditions of India. "The post will interact with the chairs of Asian Religions (India, Tibet, China, Japan) at the EPHE, in order to contribute to the development of a coherent program of teaching and research on the religious life of these cultural spheres. "The language of instruction at the EPHE is French and courses are held in Paris, within the administrative framework of the Doctoral School 472." The application procedure will be found described here: https://www.ephe.fr/actualites/recrutement_des_enseignants-chercheurs_2016/ephe-recrutement-sr-2016.pdf Anyone who is interesting in applying may direct their inquiries prior to submitting an application to me at: m-kapstein at uchicago.edu with regards, Matthew Matthew Kapstein Directeur d'?tudes, Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, The University of Chicago ________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wujastyk at gmail.com Fri Feb 12 16:33:08 2016 From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 16 09:33:08 -0700 Subject: [INDOLOGY] New release of the Versioning machine Message-ID: http://tei-l.970651.n3.nabble.com/New-release-Versioning-Machine-5-0-tp4028200.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From svose at sas.upenn.edu Fri Feb 12 17:43:48 2016 From: svose at sas.upenn.edu (Steven Vose) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 16 12:43:48 -0500 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Job Announcement: Tenure track position, SE Asian or North American religions, Florida International University Message-ID: Dear Indology-jana, The Department of Religious Studies is conducting a search for a tenure track assistant professor specializing in Southeast Asian or North American traditions. I would also encourage a specialist in Pali literature to apply. Here is the announcement: The Department of Religious Studies at Florida International University seeks to appoint a tenure-track assistant professor with a specialization in one of the religious traditions of either North America or Southeast Asia (tradition open and methodology open), preferably with expertise in the interaction of religions in the area. Relevant languages and fieldwork required. Ph.D. required. The successful candidate should have an active research agenda and be able to teach both introductory and advanced courses. The department, with thirteen full time members, offers B.A. and M.A. degrees and is located within FIU?s Steven J. Green School of International and Public Affairs (SIPA). Qualified candidates are encouraged to apply to Job Opening ID (510983) at facultycareers.fiu.edu and attach a cover letter, curriculum vitae, transcripts, at least three letters of recommendation, and course syllabi if available as either one .pdf file or as individual attachments. Candidates will be requested to provide names and contact information for their three references who may be contacted by the search committee. To receive full consideration, applications and required materials should be received by March 4, 2016. Review will continue until position is filled. FIU is a member of the State University System of Florida and an Equal Opportunity, Equal Access Affirmative Action Employer. All qualified applicants will receive consideration for employment without regard to race, color, religion, sex, national origin, disability status, protected veteran status, or any other characteristic protected by law. For more information about FIU, visit http://www.fiu.edu/ With apologies for cross posting, Steve Steven M. Vose Bhagwan Mahavir Assistant Professor of Jain Studies Director, Jain Studies Program Department of Religious Studies Florida International University 11200 SW 8th St., DM 359-A Miami, FL 33199 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Matthew Matthew Kapstein Directeur d'?tudes, Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, The University of Chicago ________________________________ Re: ANNOUNCEMENT> The End of Tibetology in Copenhagen by Trine Brox Dear colleagues and friends, After my colleague Jan-Ulrich Sobisch was fired on Tuesday and we thereby learned that Tibetology will be discontinued at the University of Copenhagen, so many of you have written personal messages and entries on social media, asking what you can do to help. I am very moved by the concern and solidarity that you show us in these tremendously difficult times. I also know that your support means a lot to Jan-Ulrich. Thank you! With the shocking dismissal of Jan-Ulrich, who has been at the University of Copenhagen since 2003, they seem to sacrifice Tibetology as a maneuver to show the politicians that the University does indeed try to cut the costs of higher education. There is no other reason to discontinue Tibetology and dismiss Jan-Ulrich ? he has an impressive publication record, he attracts external funding, he is part of international research networks, and he has dedicated students. However, by sacrificing Jan-Ulrich, we lose an educational program and many decades of a Tibetology research tradition in Denmark that will be impossibly difficult to rebuild in the future. What they are doing now is a catastrophe and must be stopped! There is, in fact, something you can do which might help us protest. Jan-Ulrich has until February 23, 10 o?clock, to appeal the decision. Only afterwards will they announce the final decision. I hope that we can influence the final decisions making if the international community of Tibet scholars protests immediately. I would request you to write individual letters to the Rector and Director of the Board of the University. Please write a few words about your opinion to close down Tibetology here and about Jan-Ulrich as a scholar, so that we may impress them before they make their final decision. Please be so kind to send me also an electronic copy, if you agree that we may use it to send it to the Minister of Education and in a further media campaign. I will also plaster copies of your letter on the wall outside of our Department Director?s office. Dear colleagues, I know that I am impinging on your precious time, but I ask you nonetheless to please take a few minutes and contribute to our fight to reinstate Jan-Ulrich in his job and to save the long tradition of Tibetan Studies at Copenhagen University. If you have any questions or other ideas, then please write to me, Trine Brox, at trinebrox at hum.ku.dk. Please send your original letters of protest to Chairman of the Board of the University Director Nils Strandberg Pedersen and Rector Professor Ralf Hemmingsen Rector's Office N?rregade 10, PO Box 2177 DK-1017 Copenhagen K Denmark Thank you very much for your help. Best regards, Trine Brox Associate Professor Modern Tibetan Studies Department of Cross-Cultural and Regional Studies University of Copenhagen * Read more or reply ________________________________ You can manage your notification settings at https://networks.h-net.org/user/102079/notifications ________________________________ Please help us keep H-Net free and accessible. $5 from each of our subscribers would fund H-Net for two years. Click here to make a tax-deductible donation online. ________________________________ If you need assistance, please visit the Help Desk. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dipak.d2004 at gmail.com Sun Feb 14 05:32:24 2016 From: dipak.d2004 at gmail.com (Dipak Bhattacharya) Date: Sun, 14 Feb 16 11:02:24 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] ANNOUNCEMENT> The End of Tibetology in Copenhagen In-Reply-To: <82C3E42590D939418C74DD76B97DDED047B5387E@xm-mbx-04-prod> Message-ID: I feel very sorry for this. But this has been going on for long in Indology. Tibetology etc. I let my grief known. Do they serve any purpose? In any case I do not approve of the curtailment of education. Best wishes for further efforts and restoration. Dipak Bhattacharya On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 2:03 AM, Matthew Kapstein wrote: > Forgive me for the cross-posting, but some may be interested to respond to > the message below > of Prof. Trine Brox and add your voices to those who are protested Pr. > Jan-Ulrich Sobisch's > dismissal. > > Matthew > > Matthew Kapstein > Directeur d'?tudes, > Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes > > Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, > The University of Chicago > ------------------------------ > Re: ANNOUNCEMENT> The End of Tibetology in Copenhagen > > by Trine Brox > > Dear colleagues and friends, > > > > After my colleague Jan-Ulrich Sobisch was fired on Tuesday and we thereby > learned that Tibetology will be discontinued at the University of > Copenhagen, so many of you have written personal messages and entries on > social media, asking what you can do to help. I am very moved by the > concern and solidarity that you show us in these tremendously difficult > times. I also know that your support means a lot to Jan-Ulrich. Thank you! > > > > With the shocking dismissal of Jan-Ulrich, who has been at the University > of Copenhagen since 2003, they seem to sacrifice Tibetology as a maneuver > to show the politicians that the University does indeed try to cut the > costs of higher education. There is no other reason to discontinue > Tibetology and dismiss Jan-Ulrich ? he has an impressive publication > record, he attracts external funding, he is part of international research > networks, and he has dedicated students. However, by sacrificing > Jan-Ulrich, we lose an educational program and many decades of a Tibetology > research tradition in Denmark that will be impossibly difficult to rebuild > in the future. What they are doing now is a catastrophe and must be stopped! > > > > There is, in fact, something you can do which might help us protest. > > > > *Jan-Ulrich has until February 23, 10 o?clock, to appeal the decision. > Only afterwards will they announce the final decision. I hope that we can > influence the final decisions making if the international community of > Tibet scholars protests immediately. I would request you to write > individual letters to the Rector and Director of the Board of the > University. Please write a few words about your opinion to close down > Tibetology here and about Jan-Ulrich as a scholar, so that we may impress > them before they make their final decision.* > > > > Please be so kind to send me also an electronic copy, if you agree that we > may use it to send it to the Minister of Education and in a further media > campaign. I will also plaster copies of your letter on the wall outside of > our Department Director?s office. > > > > Dear colleagues, I know that I am impinging on your precious time, but I > ask you nonetheless to please take a few minutes and contribute to our > fight to reinstate Jan-Ulrich in his job and to save the long tradition of > Tibetan Studies at Copenhagen University. > > > > If you have any questions or other ideas, then please write to me, Trine > Brox, at trinebrox at hum.ku.dk. > > > > Please send your original letters of protest to > > > > *Chairman of the Board of the University Director Nils Strandberg Pedersen* > > *and * > > *Rector Professor Ralf Hemmingsen* > > *Rector's Office* > > *N?rregade 10, PO Box 2177* > > *DK-1017 Copenhagen K* > > *Denmark* > > > > Thank you very much for your help. > > > > Best regards, > > Trine Brox > > Associate Professor > > Modern Tibetan Studies > > Department of Cross-Cultural and Regional Studies > > University of Copenhagen > > - Read more or reply > > > ------------------------------ > > You can manage your notification settings at > https://networks.h-net.org/user/102079/notifications > ------------------------------ > > Please help us keep H-Net free and accessible. $5 from each of our > subscribers would fund H-Net for two years. Click here > to make a tax-deductible donation > online. > ------------------------------ > If you need assistance, please visit the Help Desk > . > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paoloe.rosati at gmail.com Sun Feb 14 13:13:52 2016 From: paoloe.rosati at gmail.com (Paolo Eugenio Rosati) Date: Sun, 14 Feb 16 18:43:52 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] R: ANNOUNCEMENT> The End of Tibetology in Copenhagen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <56c07d57.1847620a.3d3c3.4537@mx.google.com> I call it "capitalistic society". We like it. We enjoy it. We do not anymore discuss it. These are the results. Forgive my straight talking. I wish prof. Sobisch all the best. Paolo E. Rosati Oriental Archaeologist PhD candidate in Civilisations of Asia & Africa Section: South Asia Dep. Italian Institute of Oriental Studies (ISO) 'Sapienza' University of Rome paoloe.rosati at uniroma1.it paoloe.rosati at gmail.com Mobile: (+39) 3387383472 Skype: paoloe.rosati ----- Messaggio originale ----- Da: "Dipak Bhattacharya" Inviato: ?14/?02/?2016 11:03 A: "Matthew Kapstein" Cc: "Indology List" Oggetto: Re: [INDOLOGY] ANNOUNCEMENT> The End of Tibetology in Copenhagen I feel very sorry for this. But this has been going on for long in Indology. Tibetology etc. I let my grief known. Do they serve any purpose? In any case I do not approve of the curtailment of education. Best wishes for further efforts and restoration. Dipak Bhattacharya On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 2:03 AM, Matthew Kapstein wrote: Forgive me for the cross-posting, but some may be interested to respond to the message below of Prof. Trine Brox and add your voices to those who are protested Pr. Jan-Ulrich Sobisch's dismissal. Matthew Matthew Kapstein Directeur d'?tudes, Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, The University of Chicago Re: ANNOUNCEMENT> The End of Tibetology in Copenhagen by Trine Brox Dear colleagues and friends, After my colleague Jan-Ulrich Sobisch was fired on Tuesday and we thereby learned that Tibetology will be discontinued at the University of Copenhagen, so many of you have written personal messages and entries on social media, asking what you can do to help. I am very moved by the concern and solidarity that you show us in these tremendously difficult times. I also know that your support means a lot to Jan-Ulrich. Thank you! With the shocking dismissal of Jan-Ulrich, who has been at the University of Copenhagen since 2003, they seem to sacrifice Tibetology as a maneuver to show the politicians that the University does indeed try to cut the costs of higher education. There is no other reason to discontinue Tibetology and dismiss Jan-Ulrich ? he has an impressive publication record, he attracts external funding, he is part of international research networks, and he has dedicated students. However, by sacrificing Jan-Ulrich, we lose an educational program and many decades of a Tibetology research tradition in Denmark that will be impossibly difficult to rebuild in the future. What they are doing now is a catastrophe and must be stopped! There is, in fact, something you can do which might help us protest. Jan-Ulrich has until February 23, 10 o?clock, to appeal the decision. Only afterwards will they announce the final decision. I hope that we can influence the final decisions making if the international community of Tibet scholars protests immediately. I would request you to write individual letters to the Rector and Director of the Board of the University. Please write a few words about your opinion to close down Tibetology here and about Jan-Ulrich as a scholar, so that we may impress them before they make their final decision. Please be so kind to send me also an electronic copy, if you agree that we may use it to send it to the Minister of Education and in a further media campaign. I will also plaster copies of your letter on the wall outside of our Department Director?s office. Dear colleagues, I know that I am impinging on your precious time, but I ask you nonetheless to please take a few minutes and contribute to our fight to reinstate Jan-Ulrich in his job and to save the long tradition of Tibetan Studies at Copenhagen University. If you have any questions or other ideas, then please write to me, Trine Brox, at trinebrox at hum.ku.dk. Please send your original letters of protest to Chairman of the Board of the University Director Nils Strandberg Pedersen and Rector Professor Ralf Hemmingsen Rector's Office N?rregade 10, PO Box 2177 DK-1017 Copenhagen K Denmark Thank you very much for your help. Best regards, Trine Brox Associate Professor Modern Tibetan Studies Department of Cross-Cultural and Regional Studies University of Copenhagen Read more or reply You can manage your notification settings at https://networks.h-net.org/user/102079/notifications Please help us keep H-Net free and accessible. $5 from each of our subscribers would fund H-Net for two years. Click here to make a tax-deductible donation online. If you need assistance, please visit the Help Desk. _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zysk at hum.ku.dk Sun Feb 14 13:56:36 2016 From: zysk at hum.ku.dk (Kenneth Gregory Zysk) Date: Sun, 14 Feb 16 13:56:36 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Gandhari Unicode Help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <363679393C2EB44480CDA76B2F23C9F72C5277C9@P1KITMBX05WC03.unicph.domain> Dear List, Recently I received automatic updates from Microsoft and as a result lost all my key strokes for Gandhari Unicode fonts recorded in Normal.dot. It tried to reinstall a back-up of Normal.dot, but it failed. My word programme is Word professional plus 7. Does anyone know how I can restore the key strokes for Gandhari Unicode? Many thanks for any help you can offer. Best, Ken Kenneth Zysk, PhD, DPhil Head of Indology Department of Cross-Cultural and Regional Studies University of Copenhagen Karen Blixens Vej 4, Bygn. 10, DK-2300 Copenhagen S Denmark Ph: +45 3532 8951 Email: zysk at hum.ku.dk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark.allon at sydney.edu.au Sun Feb 14 21:12:30 2016 From: mark.allon at sydney.edu.au (Mark Allon) Date: Sun, 14 Feb 16 21:12:30 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Gandhari Unicode Help In-Reply-To: <363679393C2EB44480CDA76B2F23C9F72C5277C9@P1KITMBX05WC03.unicph.domain> Message-ID: <1A46C9B65B1156439124252D1E715E51017DA6D476@ex-mbx-pro-04> Dear Ken, As you may know, Gandhari Unicode was created by Andrew Glass, who now works for Microsoft. I sent your query to Andrew and he sent me the following to post in response to your question. Best wishes Mark Allon At this point I no longer have time to support Gandhari Unicode and input systems that were developed for it more than 15 years ago. Fortunately operating systems have caught up with the needs of Indologists and such support is no longer required on Windows 10. I'm not in a position to comment on the status of input and display for diacritics on other systems. Windows 10 has numerous fonts that support Indological diacritics, for example, Times New Roman, Cambria, Calibri, Consolas, and Segoe UI. On Windows 10 there is a built in keyboard that supports input for Indological diacritics, namely, the English (India) keyboard. You can enable the English (India) keyboard with the following steps: 1. Press the Windows key, 2. Type "language" 3. Click on the link for the Language control panel 4. Click on Add a Language 5. Find English and open it 6. Select English (India) and click on add You can now use the combination Win+Space to switch input language to English (India). When English (India) is selected the following key combinations are available. Note that AltGr is the right Alt key. ? AltGr+a ? AltGr+i ? AltGr+u r? AltGr+r ? AltGr+.,r l? AltGr+l ? AltGr+.,l ? AltGr+.,m ? AltGr+m ? AltGr+h ? AltGr+g ? AltGr+y ? AltGr+t ? AltGr+d ? AltGr+n ? AltGr+s ? AltGr+x OR AltGr+.,s Because language settings are attached to your cloud identity in Windows 10, if you configure this keyboard once, you won't need to do it again on a new computer because your settings get remembered in the cloud. If someone has an interest in maintaining Gandhari Unicode, I'd be happy to discuss that. Cheers, Andrew From: INDOLOGY [mailto:indology-bounces at list.indology.info] On Behalf Of Kenneth Gregory Zysk Sent: Sunday, 14 February 2016 2:57 PM To: Indology List Subject: [INDOLOGY] Gandhari Unicode Help Dear List, Recently I received automatic updates from Microsoft and as a result lost all my key strokes for Gandhari Unicode fonts recorded in Normal.dot. It tried to reinstall a back-up of Normal.dot, but it failed. My word programme is Word professional plus 7. Does anyone know how I can restore the key strokes for Gandhari Unicode? Many thanks for any help you can offer. Best, Ken Kenneth Zysk, PhD, DPhil Head of Indology Department of Cross-Cultural and Regional Studies University of Copenhagen Karen Blixens Vej 4, Bygn. 10, DK-2300 Copenhagen S Denmark Ph: +45 3532 8951 Email: zysk at hum.ku.dk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com Mon Feb 15 01:30:23 2016 From: hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com (Harry Spier) Date: Sun, 14 Feb 16 20:30:23 -0500 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Gandhari Unicode Help In-Reply-To: <363679393C2EB44480CDA76B2F23C9F72C5277C9@P1KITMBX05WC03.unicph.domain> Message-ID: Dear Kenneth, In order to restore your keystrokes in Word click on the INSERT menu then click on the "symbols"menu and click on "more symbols" a window frame should then show up. This window frame then allows you to select the font you want to work. The characters of that font then show up in this window frame. You click on the character and then click on "set keyboard shortcut". and a new menu shows up that allows you to enter the new keyboard shortcuts. There is a setting in this window that says where the new shortcuts are being saved to. Make sure that is set to either normal.dot or normal.dotm . Note: I don't have the same version of Word you have but the procedure to get the window frame to show up that allows you to set the keyboard shortcuts should be very similar to what I've described above. Harry Spier On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Kenneth Gregory Zysk wrote: > Dear List, > > > > Recently I received automatic updates from Microsoft and as a result lost > all my key strokes for Gandhari Unicode fonts recorded in Normal.dot. It > tried to reinstall a back-up of Normal.dot, but it failed. My word > programme is Word professional plus 7. > > Does anyone know how I can restore the key strokes for Gandhari Unicode? > > Many thanks for any help you can offer. > > Best, > > Ken > > > > > > Kenneth Zysk, PhD, DPhil > > Head of Indology > > Department of Cross-Cultural and Regional Studies > > University of Copenhagen > > Karen Blixens Vej 4, Bygn. 10, > > DK-2300 Copenhagen S Denmark > > Ph: +45 3532 8951 Email: zysk at hum.ku.dk > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zysk at hum.ku.dk Mon Feb 15 06:14:52 2016 From: zysk at hum.ku.dk (Kenneth Gregory Zysk) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 16 06:14:52 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Gandhari Unicode Help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <363679393C2EB44480CDA76B2F23C9F72C52789E@P1KITMBX05WC03.unicph.domain> Dear Harry and all, Many thanks for the advice about the key strokes and re-establishing the old system. Best, Ken From: Harry Spier [mailto:hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com] Sent: 15. februar 2016 02:30 To: Kenneth Gregory Zysk Cc: Indology List Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Gandhari Unicode Help Dear Kenneth, In order to restore your keystrokes in Word click on the INSERT menu then click on the "symbols"menu and click on "more symbols" a window frame should then show up. This window frame then allows you to select the font you want to work. The characters of that font then show up in this window frame. You click on the character and then click on "set keyboard shortcut". and a new menu shows up that allows you to enter the new keyboard shortcuts. There is a setting in this window that says where the new shortcuts are being saved to. Make sure that is set to either normal.dot or normal.dotm . Note: I don't have the same version of Word you have but the procedure to get the window frame to show up that allows you to set the keyboard shortcuts should be very similar to what I've described above. Harry Spier On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Kenneth Gregory Zysk > wrote: Dear List, Recently I received automatic updates from Microsoft and as a result lost all my key strokes for Gandhari Unicode fonts recorded in Normal.dot. It tried to reinstall a back-up of Normal.dot, but it failed. My word programme is Word professional plus 7. Does anyone know how I can restore the key strokes for Gandhari Unicode? Many thanks for any help you can offer. Best, Ken Kenneth Zysk, PhD, DPhil Head of Indology Department of Cross-Cultural and Regional Studies University of Copenhagen Karen Blixens Vej 4, Bygn. 10, DK-2300 Copenhagen S Denmark Ph: +45 3532 8951 Email: zysk at hum.ku.dk _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From BrodbeckSP at cardiff.ac.uk Tue Feb 16 16:19:51 2016 From: BrodbeckSP at cardiff.ac.uk (Simon Brodbeck) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 16 16:19:51 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Spalding Symposium on Indian Religions Message-ID: Dear colleagues, Registration is now open for the 41st Spalding Symposium on Indian Religions, to be held in Cardiff, 15th - 17th April 2016. The theme this year is "narrative". The programme and registration form are available here, on the Spalding Symposium's website: http://spaldingsymposium.org/ The symposium will be held at St Michael's College in Llandaff (a northern suburb of Cardiff). The St Michael's College website is here (see at bottom right for directions): http://stmichaels.ac.uk/ With all best wishes, from Simon Brodbeck and James Hegarty. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kauzeya at gmail.com Tue Feb 16 22:02:36 2016 From: kauzeya at gmail.com (Jonathan Silk) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 16 23:02:36 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] David Shulman has been awarded the Israel Prize Message-ID: Dear Indologists A well-deserved recognition for an amazing scholar: http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Expert-on-India-research-to-win-Israel-Prize-for-religious-studies-and-philosophy-444965 Like most things in Israel, it's not beyond politics, but this time in a surprising and altogether wonderful way. Warmest congratulations to a truly great scholar and superb human being! jonathan -- J. Silk Leiden University Leiden University Institute for Area Studies, LIAS Matthias de Vrieshof 3, Room 0.05b 2311 BZ Leiden The Netherlands copies of my publications may be found at http://www.buddhismandsocialjustice.com/silk_publications.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rajam at earthlink.net Wed Feb 17 02:17:47 2016 From: rajam at earthlink.net (rajam) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 16 18:17:47 -0800 Subject: [INDOLOGY] David Shulman has been awarded the Israel Prize In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I?m very delighted to hear about this! David is an honest scholar of Indic studies. Colleagues from UofPenn may recall the times when David used to come to Penn every Wednesday to consult for Sundarar Thevaram with me. His translation of the Sundarar Thevaram (?Songs of the Harsh Devotee?) was published by the Department of South Asia Regional Studies, University of Pennsylvania. Professors Ludo & Rosane Rocher were very supportive of that venture. http://www.amazon.ca/Songs-Harsh-Devotee-Tevaram-Cuntaramurttinayanar/dp/0936115076 The G of India should have honored him with a high award long time ago. Regards, rajam > On Feb 16, 2016, at 2:02 PM, Jonathan Silk wrote: > > Dear Indologists > > A well-deserved recognition for an amazing scholar: http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Expert-on-India-research-to-win-Israel-Prize-for-religious-studies-and-philosophy-444965 > > Like most things in Israel, it's not beyond politics, but this time in a surprising and altogether wonderful way. > > Warmest congratulations to a truly great scholar and superb human being! > > jonathan > > -- > J. Silk > Leiden University > Leiden University Institute for Area Studies, LIAS > Matthias de Vrieshof 3, Room 0.05b > 2311 BZ Leiden > The Netherlands > > copies of my publications may be found at > http://www.buddhismandsocialjustice.com/silk_publications.html _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From dnreigle at gmail.com Wed Feb 17 15:49:34 2016 From: dnreigle at gmail.com (David and Nancy Reigle) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 16 08:49:34 -0700 Subject: [INDOLOGY] SUTRALANKAR by Asanga In-Reply-To: <20160217053446.19372.qmail@f4mail-235-118.rediffmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Alakendu Das, Shortly after the November 2014 publication of the second translation listed at the Wiki link that Valerie sent (there still listed as forthcoming), I wrote a lengthy review of it and previous English translations of the *Mah?y?na-s?tr?la?k?ra*: http://prajnaquest.fr/blog/mahayana-sutrala%e1%b9%83kara-a-review/. The 2014 translation is titled: *Ornament of the Great Vehicle S?tras**: Maitreya?s Mah?y?nas?tr?la?k?ra with Commentaries by Khenpo Shenga and Ju Mipham*, translated by Dharmachakra Translation Committee (Boston & London: Snow Lion, 2014). The first ever English translation, by Surekha Vijay Limaye (*Mah?y?nas?tr?la?k?ra by ?Asa?ga*,? Delhi: Sri Satguru Publications, 1992), was not listed in the Wiki article. This was beneficent. This translation was made without knowledge of the meaning of standard Buddhist terms, and is quite unreliable. Of the other two English translations, in brief, the 2004 translation (*The Universal Vehicle Discourse Literature **(Mah?y?nas?tr?la?k?ra), By Maitreyan?tha/?ry?sa?ga, Together with its Commentary (Bh??ya), By Vasubandhu*, Translated from the Sanskrit, Tibetan, and Chinese by L. Jamspal, R. Clark, J. Wilson, L. Zwilling, M. Sweet, R. Thurman, New York: American Institute of Buddhist Studies, 2004) employs "experimental choices of English terminology" (Preface, p. x). Examples of these are "addictions" for *kle?a*-s, "theology" for *tarka*, and "intuition" for *j??na*, and there is no glossary. The 2014 translation for the most part employs commonly used English translation terminology (with a few exceptions such as "wakefulness" for *j??na*). Nonetheless, the 2004 translation is more accurate in its sentence construal. This is because the 2014 translation was made from the Tibetan translation, without consulting the original Sanskrit. Note that the 2004 translation includes a translation of Vasubandhu's Sanskrit commentary, while the 2014 translation does not, but instead includes translations of two recent Tibetan commentaries. Best regards, David Reigle Colorado, U.S.A. On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 10:34 PM, alakendu das < mailmealakendudas at rediffmail.com> wrote: > > To All, > If anybody may pleae let me know whether any English translation of > SutraLankar by Asanga, the Mahayana Vigyanvadi scholar of 4th C.E exists > .If yes, the references may please be cited. > > > ALAKENDU DAS. > > > > > > > > Get your own *FREE* website, *FREE* domain & *FREE* mobile app with > Company email. > *Know More >* > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just to clarify, what Norman says in his book is that ?The work is from the modern period but the language is old Kannada.? Steve Farmer Palo Alto, CA > On Feb 19, 2016, at 6:09 AM, Walser, Joseph wrote: > > Dear List, > At the end of N.J. Sjoman's book The Yoga Tradition of the Mysore Palace, he includes a translation of the yoga section of a text called the "Maisuru Maisiri" which he found in the Mysore Palace. Does anyone out there know how I can get a hold of the Old Kannada version for this translation? I have tried emailing Mr. Sjoman, but no luck so far. > Best, > > -j > > > Joseph Walser > Associate Professor > Department of Religion > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From arlogriffiths at hotmail.com Sat Feb 20 09:34:38 2016 From: arlogriffiths at hotmail.com (Arlo Griffiths) Date: Sat, 20 Feb 16 09:34:38 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] 600 (and 1000) Message-ID: Colleagues, In B?hler's Palaeography, table IX, I find one specimen for the numeral sign 600 (clearly built on the signs for 100 and 6). I'd be grateful for reference to (and images of) other specimens of 600, especially such as might less clearly be built on the signs 100 and 6. Specimens of signs for 1000 are also welcome. All of this in an effort to understand how the attached clipping could mean 1000+600 = 1600, which is contextually what it has to mean. (I have less trouble with 1000 than with 600.) Thank you. Arlo Griffiths ?cole fran?aise d'Extr?me-Orient -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 1000-600.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 17827 bytes Desc: not available URL: From karp at uw.edu.pl Sat Feb 20 10:24:05 2016 From: karp at uw.edu.pl (Artur Karp) Date: Sat, 20 Feb 16 11:24:05 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] 84 000 Message-ID: Dear List, I wonder what's the significance of the number 84 000 that appears in several Pali texts? Was it used also elsewhere? In the epics? Thanks in advance, Artur Karp -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Rosati Oriental Archaeologist PhD candidate in Civilisations of Asia & Africa Section: South Asia Dep. Italian Institute of Oriental Studies (ISO) 'Sapienza' University of Rome paoloe.rosati at uniroma1.it paoloe.rosati at gmail.com Mobile: (+39) 3387383472 Skype: paoloe.rosati ----- Messaggio originale ----- Da: "Laura Giuliano" Inviato: ?20/?02/?2016 03:06 A: "Laura Giuliano" Oggetto: Petizione per il Museo Nazionale d'Arte Orientale 'Giuseppe Tucci' Cari amici e colleghi, vi inoltro i link delle petizioni (una in italiano e una in inglese) indirizzate al Ministro dei Beni e delle Attivit? Culturali e del Turismo, Onorevole Dario Franceschini, per chiedere di restituire l?autonomia al Museo Nazionale d?Arte Orientale ?Giuseppe Tucci?. Purtroppo la riforma di questo Ministero ha comportato conseguenze molto gravi per questo Istituto: l'inserimento del Museo nel Polo Museale del Lazio sta mettendo a rischio tutte le missioni e attivit? internazionali, i rapporti con le rappresentanze diplomatiche dei Paesi asiatici, con le Istituzioni culturali e gli studiosi italiani e stranieri. Ugualmente compromesse sono le attivit? di tutela dell'arte orientale finora svolte sul territorio nazionale presso gli Uffici Esportazione e in collaborazione con le Forze dell'Ordine, che da sempre hanno evitato la dispersione di importanti opere sul mercato internazionale, preservando il patrimonio nazionale, e il commercio illegale di opere d'arte trafugate da travagliati Paesi dell?Asia. In sostanza con la la perdita di autonomia scientifica e finanziaria e con l'inserimento del Museo Nazionale nel regionale Polo Museale del Lazio vengono messi in discussione il suo ruolo storico di Istituto di ricerca (dal 1983 a oggi il MNAO ? stato partner o capofila di oltre 40 progetti internazionali) e la sua attivit? di Soprintendenza sul territorio nazionale, riducendolo a un mero contenitore di manufatti. Per evitare che questa Istituzione subisca la sorte di altre realt? culturali che nel nostro Paese si occupano di Oriente, che tutti gli accordi internazionali e le Missioni vengano cancellate, che siano annullati di colpo oltre 60 anni di storia, vi chiedo di leggere e firmare ambedue le petizioni e di diffonderle come meglio credete in Italia e all?estero. Ecco il link per la petizione in italiano: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/it-it/takeaction/958/438/567/ e quello per la petizione in inglese: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/it-it/737/738/332/restore-autonomy-and-role-of-the-g.-tucci-national-museum-of-oriental-art/ Grazie infinite a tutti per quanto potrete fare. Laura Giuliano -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karp at uw.edu.pl Sat Feb 20 13:59:29 2016 From: karp at uw.edu.pl (Artur Karp) Date: Sat, 20 Feb 16 14:59:29 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] 84 000 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: My thanks to Ruth Satinsky and Valerie Roebuck for their answers to my query. One more question: was the numerical progression *2, 3, 7* somehow significant in the Indian tradition? 2016-02-20 11:24 GMT+01:00 Artur Karp : > Dear List, > > I wonder what's the significance of the number 84 000 that appears in > several Pali texts? Was it used also elsewhere? 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Thanks and regards, rajam > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Arlo Griffiths > To: INDOLOGY > Date: February 20, 2016 at 1:34:38 AM PST > Subject: [INDOLOGY] 600 (and 1000) > > Colleagues, > > In B?hler's Palaeography, table IX, I find one specimen for the numeral sign 600 (clearly built on the signs for 100 and 6). I'd be grateful for reference to (and images of) other specimens of 600, especially such as might less clearly be built on the signs 100 and 6. Specimens of signs for 1000 are also welcome. > > All of this in an effort to understand how the attached clipping could mean 1000+600 = 1600, which is contextually what it has to mean. (I have less trouble with 1000 than with 600.) > > Thank you. > > Arlo Griffiths > ?cole fran?aise d'Extr?me-Orient > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Here is today's broadcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW1h63Nbbtk&feature=em-uploademail My intention is to analyse spoken Sanskrit in various registers and domains. I want to use corpus linguistic software to analyse as much spoken Sanskrit as I can. The inclusion of 'news Sanskrit' is an important aspect to this project. I have, rather tediously, been trying to transcribe these clips. In an attempt to fast-track this process it would be preferable to obtain digital copies of the transcripts the presenter reads from the teleprompter. Over the past couple of months I have found emails of people involved at DD and sent several emails to various people involved politely asking for their help. I have not had a single response. I thought that someone on this list might have a contact and be able/willing to help or intercede on my behalf? All the best, Patrick McCartney PhD Candidate School of Culture, History & Language College of the Asia-Pacific The Australian National University Canberra, Australia, 0200 Skype - psdmccartney Phone + Whatsapp: +61 414 954 748 - *https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=241756978&trk=nav_responsive_tab_profile * - *https://anu-au.academia.edu/patrickmccartney * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy6lVABgjmg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVqBD_2P4Pg http://youtu.be/y3XfjbwqC_g http://trinityroots.bandcamp.com/track/all-we-be -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There is a daily 5-min clip and a weekly 30-min clip. > > Here is today's broadcast: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW1h63Nbbtk&feature=em-uploademail > > My intention is to analyse spoken Sanskrit in various registers and > domains. I want to use corpus linguistic software to analyse as much spoken > Sanskrit as I can. The inclusion of 'news Sanskrit' is an important aspect > to this project. > > I have, rather tediously, been trying to transcribe these clips. In an > attempt to fast-track this process it would be preferable to obtain digital > copies of the transcripts the presenter reads from the teleprompter. > > Over the past couple of months I have found emails of people involved at > DD and sent several emails to various people involved politely asking for > their help. I have not had a single response. I thought that someone on > this list might have a contact and be able/willing to help or intercede on > my behalf? > > > > All the best, > > Patrick McCartney > > PhD Candidate > School of Culture, History & Language > College of the Asia-Pacific > The Australian National University > Canberra, Australia, 0200 > > > Skype - psdmccartney > Phone + Whatsapp: +61 414 954 748 > > > > - *https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=241756978&trk=nav_responsive_tab_profile > * > - *https://anu-au.academia.edu/patrickmccartney > * > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy6lVABgjmg > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVqBD_2P4Pg > > http://youtu.be/y3XfjbwqC_g > > http://trinityroots.bandcamp.com/track/all-we-be > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -- Venetia Kotamraju +91 997230 5440 www.rasalabooks.com www.venetiaansell.wordpress.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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With best wishes, Patrick From david_buchta at brown.edu Tue Feb 23 15:01:19 2016 From: david_buchta at brown.edu (Buchta, David) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 16 10:01:19 -0500 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_jambudv=C4=ABpa?= In-Reply-To: <6A4F7C14-DE9D-4CFC-BDD4-5504EF26EABD@austin.utexas.edu> Message-ID: Hi Patrick, I'd suggest looking at Michael Meister's paper on the Jamb?, available here: https://www.academia.edu/784039/Exploring_Kafirkot_When_is_a_Rose_Apple_not_a_Rose Therein (p. 110) he writes, "The earliest references to Jamb?dvipa surviving are probably those in A?oka's inscriptions (Thapar 1973: 68, 199), 6 and certainly it is early Buddhism that makes much of this continent's singular significance (Malalasekera 1937-38: 941)" I hope this helps. Best, David -- David Buchta Lecturer in Sanskrit Department of Classics Brown University On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 8:23 AM, Olivelle, J P wrote: > I got a query from a scholar not on the list regarding the term jambudv?pa > for the Indian subcontinent. When is it first attested in the literature, > Sanskrit or Prakrit? If anyone has an answer, she would be grateful. With > best wishes, > > Patrick > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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With > best wishes, > > Patrick > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yogacara at gmail.com Tue Feb 23 16:04:36 2016 From: yogacara at gmail.com (Dan Lusthaus) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 16 11:04:36 -0500 Subject: [INDOLOGY] CFP Annual AAR 2016 Message-ID: Apologies for cross-posting: For the upcoming AAR Annual Meeting in San Antonio, Texas, Nov. 19-22, the AAR Group, Religions in Chinese and Indian Cultures: A Comparative Perspective, is eager to receive proposals dealing either with cross-cultural influence between India and China, or a theme viewed through Indian and Chinese perspectives. This year we are especially seeking proposals dealing with ? Afterlife in Chinese and Indian religions ? Saints and Sainthood in Chinese and Indian traditions ? Maritime silk road Submissions for full panels or individual paper proposals are welcomed. Other themes, especially as a full panel proposal, are also welcomed. The AAR deadline for proposals is March 1, 2016. They should be submitted through the AAR website PAPERS portal. https://www.aarweb.org/annual-meeting/call-for-papers Questions may be directed to the Co-Chairs: Chakravarthi Ram-Prasad, c.ram-prasad at lancaster.ac.uk Dan Lusthaus, lusthaus at fas.harvard.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From psdmccartney at gmail.com Wed Feb 24 06:16:10 2016 From: psdmccartney at gmail.com (patrick mccartney) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 16 16:46:10 +1030 Subject: [INDOLOGY] DD News Message-ID: Thank you to everyone who helped me with contacts regarding Sanskrit News. 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URL: From kauzeya at gmail.com Wed Feb 24 09:23:58 2016 From: kauzeya at gmail.com (Jonathan Silk) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 16 10:23:58 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Job opportunity Message-ID: On behalf of Peter Bisschop and myself, I copy the announcement below, with the addition that Peter and I would be absolutely delighted if someone with Sanskrit (etc) interests were to be interested in this opportunity: The Faculty of Humanities at Leiden University invites applications for 2 fulltime assistant professorships in Digital Humanities. Assistant Professor Digital Humanities with focus on text analysis (1.0 fte) Assistant Professor Digital Humanities with focus on data-analysis and visualization (1.0 fte) The Leiden University Centre for Digital Humanities (LUCDH) is recruiting two assistant professors to develop innovative research projects that take full advantage of digital sources and methods, to design and implement teaching programmes in Digital Humanities and to collaborate with digital humanities research across the university. The two hires will be in complementary areas of the Digital Humanities (DH). We are looking for candidates with an area of specialisation in one of two broader areas. The first position will focus on text analysis (including text and image mark-up, text-mining, corpus linguistics, named entity recognition, topic modelling, or machine learning). The other will focus on the development of data analysis and visualisation platforms (including database design, visualisation, network analysis, or geographic information systems). For more information go to http://werkenbij.leidenuniv.nl/vacatures/wetenschappelijke-functies/16-061-062-vacature-universiteit-leiden-assistant-professors-digital-humanities.html These hires are part of a broader investment in DH at Leiden. The University Library is also recruiting for two positions (in Dutch: http://werkenbij.leidenuniv.nl/vacatures/ondersteunende-en-staffuncties/16-033-034-vacature-universiteit-leiden-twee-digital-scholarship-librarians.html ). We also expect to recruit for two to three Ph.D. fellowships in the near future. ******************* Please do NOT write to me about this job; I know nothing more than what you read above. Jonathan -- J. Silk Leiden University Leiden University Institute for Area Studies, LIAS Matthias de Vrieshof 3, Room 0.05b 2311 BZ Leiden The Netherlands copies of my publications may be found at http://www.buddhismandsocialjustice.com/silk_publications.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hegartyjm at googlemail.com Wed Feb 24 12:58:33 2016 From: hegartyjm at googlemail.com (James Hegarty) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 16 12:58:33 +0000 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Lines_of_appreciation_of_=C5=9Aakuntal=C4=81?= Message-ID: Dear Colleagues, Can anyone recall the ?loka that lionises the fourth act of the ?akuntal?? I mean the one that praises four verses in the fourth act etc. etc. I would like to know the exact Sanskrit of the ?loka and its source. Thanks in Anticipation, James Hegarty Cardiff University From steiner at staff.uni-marburg.de Wed Feb 24 13:33:54 2016 From: steiner at staff.uni-marburg.de (Roland Steiner) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 16 14:33:54 +0100 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Lines_of_appreciation_of_=C5=9Aakuntal=C4=81?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20160224143354.Horde.JhgMThTMwHjMm6jRcX5gG4s@home.staff.uni-marburg.de> The ?loka runs: k?vye?u n??aka? ramya? tatra ??kuntala? varam tatr?pi ca caturtho '?kas tatra ?lokacatu??ayam v.ll.: b: tatra ??kuntala? varam ] tatra ramy? ?akuntal?, tatr?pi ca ?akuntal? c: caturtho '?kas ] caturth??kas There is also a current variant version (cited, e.g., in Sten Konow, Das indische Drama, Stra?burg 1920, ? 77: M. Krishnamachariar, History of Classical Sanskrit Literature, 1937, p. 592, n. 2): k?lidasasya sarvasvam abhij??na?akuntalam tatr?pi ca caturtho '?ko yatra y?ti ?akuntal? See Mukunda Madhava Sharma: "On the Significance of the Saying k?vye?u n??akam ramyam", in: Ludwik Sternbach Felicitation Volume. Part 1. Lucknow 1979, pp. 399-407. Best wishes, Roland Steiner From wujastyk at gmail.com Wed Feb 24 16:28:46 2016 From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 16 09:28:46 -0700 Subject: [INDOLOGY] History of Science in South Asia: new journal URL Message-ID: The open-access journal *History of Science in South Asia* now has its own permanent URL: hssa-journal.org If you link to the journal, please use this new URL, and not the older one, hssa.sayahna.org. The Sayahna Foundation gave the journal tremendous support in its first years, and we remain grateful to them and on good terms. But by mutual agreement, the journal has now moved to a new host platform, at the University of Alberta, that offers several technical and administrative advantages. The new URL, hssa-journal.org, means that these changes of underlying technology, and any future ones, need not concern readers or contributors. The URL will be the address of record for the long term, whatever future arrangements may be made. Sincerely, Dominik Wujastyk HSSA editorial board. -- Professor Dominik Wujastyk* Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity Department of History and Classics University of Alberta, Canada -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From V.Sasson at marianopolis.edu Thu Feb 25 15:35:28 2016 From: V.Sasson at marianopolis.edu (Vanessa Sasson) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 16 15:35:28 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] article request Message-ID: <73C8D05F0B9DFC4D84EA02AFC695DD08D4801B0A@Boisvert.marianopolis.com> Good morning, Does anyone have a pdf copy of the following article? Bareau, Andre. "Un personnage bien mysterieux: L'epouse du Buddha," Pages 31-59 in Indological and Buddhist Studies, Volume in Honour of Professor J. W. de Jong on his Sixtieth Birthday. Edited by L. A. Hercus, et al. Canberra: Australian National University, 1982. I was sure I had it, but I now suspect that my computer ate it. With gratitude, Vanessa R. Sasson Religious Studies Marianopolis College -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nakeerthi at gmail.com Fri Feb 26 06:23:21 2016 From: nakeerthi at gmail.com (naresh keerthi) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 16 11:53:21 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Paper Request - Emeneau 1955 Message-ID: Dear List Members, I don't have access to the relevant of Indian Linguistics, and would appreciate it someone could share the below article. Emeneau, M. B. "Signed verses by Sanskrit poets." *Indian Linguistics* 16 (1955). 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"Signed verses by Sanskrit poets." *Indian Linguistics* 16 > (1955). > > Thanks in advance, > > Naresh Keerthi > National Institute of Advanced Studies > IISc Campus, > Bangalore > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nakeerthi at gmail.com Sat Feb 27 15:24:33 2016 From: nakeerthi at gmail.com (naresh keerthi) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 16 20:54:33 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Paper Request - Emeneau 1955 Message-ID: Many thanks to Marco Franceschini and Andrew Ollett who shared the article so promptly. Warm Regards, Naresh Keerthi National Institute of Advanced Studies IISc Campus Bangalore https://www.dropbox.com/s/nljw5l23ry5m0sd/emeneau1955-signed_verses_by_sanskrit_poets.pdf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wujastyk at gmail.com Sat Feb 27 15:52:15 2016 From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 16 08:52:15 -0700 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Against the petition against Prof. Pollock Message-ID: I discovered yesterday that there exists a petition launched by Prof. K. Ramasubramanian that asks for Prof. Sheldon Pollock to be removed from his editorial leadership role with the Murty Library. The argument against Pollock is based on the idea that, "he has deep antipathy towards many of the ideals and values cherished and practiced in our civilization." The most prominent evidence given to support this assertion is a quotation from a 2012 lecture that Prof. Pollock gave at the South Asia Institute in Heidelberg, titled, "What is South Asian Knowledge Good For?" Prof. Ramasubramanian states that Prof. Pollock "echoes the views of Macaulay and Max Weber that the shastras generated in India serve no contemporary purpose except for the study of how Indians express themselves." Unfortunately, Prof. Ramasubramanian has not correctly understood these passages in Prof. Pollock's paper, nor the meaning of the 2012 lecture as a whole. Prof. Pollock cites Macaulay and Weber as ????????? positions to his own, opposite view. Prof. Pollock presents Macaulay and Weber as examples of the worst kind of misunderstanding of Indian wisdom. He does this in order to build his own argument that there is a deeper knowledge in India than Macaualy or Weber realized, the knowledge that is the "South Asian Knowledge" of his title. This is the knowledge of the Indian ??????????, the Indian knowledge systems that Prof. Pollock is defending. Prof. Ramasubramanian then cites a passage in which Prof. Pollock says, Are there any decision makers, as they refer to themselves, at universities and foundations who would not agree that, in the cognitive sweepstakes of human history, Western knowledge has won and South Asian knowledge has lost? ...That, accordingly, the South Asian knowledge South Asians themselves have produced can no longer be held to have any significant consequences for the future of the human species? In this passage, Prof. Pollock is *criticising* the administrators of western universities who do not give proper recognition and value to Indian knowledge systems, and only view India as a place to make money or to make practical applications of knowledge systems of the West. Again, this is the ?????????. Prof. Pollock's central argument is that the special, unique knowledge systems developed in India, mainly recorded in Sanskrit, are of great value, and that this fact is not recognized by "universities and foundations" who, like Macauley and Weber, think that Indian knowledge systems have been superseded by Western ones. Prof. Pollock's point of view is that the ?????????? , representing South Asian Knowledge, are precious, worth studying, and still have much to offer modern cultural life. On pages six and seven of his lecture, he gives the examples of ??????? and the theory of ?? as forms of knowledge that were developed to a uniquely high degree in early India, and that still have the power to enrich thought today. On the subsequent pages, he begins to make the even more difficult argument for finding modern value in even more internally-oriented Indian sciences such as ???????, ??????? and ????????????. The larger point of Prof. Pollock's article is that the institutions of higher education in America and elsewhere have found it difficult over the last fifty years or more to develop institutional structures to support the study of *Indian* knowledge systems, and that the South Asia Institute in Heidelberg is a model of success in allowing those who develop knowledge *about *India to work in harmony alongside those who deepen their appreciation of the knowledge that was developed *by *India. It would be possible to make similar arguments for the other evidence referred to by Prof. Ramasubramanian, e.g., Prof. Pollock's 1985 paper on the character and importance of ??????????, of South Asian knowledge systems. In that paper, Prof. Pollock says that, "Classical Indian civilization, however, offers what may be the most exquisite expression of the centrality of rule-governance in human behavior" and that ??stra is "a monumental, in some cases unparalleled, intellectual accomplishment in its own right." One could discuss this paper further. But to cite it as an example of a criticism of India is the opposite of the truth. It is regrettable that Prof. Ramasubramanian has misunderstood Prof. Pollock's views by 180 degrees. Prof. Pollock is a champion for the same values of Indian culture as Prof. Ramasubramanian. That is why Prof. Pollock devised and brought into being the Murty Classical Library. Many people have signed Prof. Ramasubramanian's petition, presumably without having read Prof. Pollock's work for themselves, or having failed to undestand it. The damage done by this misunderstanding is likely to last a long time, and hamper the efforts of Prof. Pollock and others who seek to bring the glory and subtlety of ancient Indian knowledge to the attention of the modern world. -- Professor Dominik Wujastyk* Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity Department of History and Classics University of Alberta, Canada -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From c.ram-prasad at lancaster.ac.uk Sat Feb 27 16:18:51 2016 From: c.ram-prasad at lancaster.ac.uk (Ram-Prasad, Chakravarthi) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 16 16:18:51 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Against the petition against Prof. Pollock In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1DBED752-A8E9-441E-9DF0-3998840D1125@lancaster.ac.uk> Eloquently put, Dominik. Ram iPhone On 27 Feb 2016, at 15:54, Dominik Wujastyk > wrote: I discovered yesterday that there exists a petition launched by Prof. K. Ramasubramanian that asks for Prof. Sheldon Pollock to be removed from his editorial leadership role with the Murty Library. The argument against Pollock is based on the idea that, "he has deep antipathy towards many of the ideals and values cherished and practiced in our civilization." The most prominent evidence given to support this assertion is a quotation from a 2012 lecture that Prof. Pollock gave at the South Asia Institute in Heidelberg, titled, "What is South Asian Knowledge Good For?" Prof. Ramasubramanian states that Prof. Pollock "echoes the views of Macaulay and Max Weber that the shastras generated in India serve no contemporary purpose except for the study of how Indians express themselves." Unfortunately, Prof. Ramasubramanian has not correctly understood these passages in Prof. Pollock's paper, nor the meaning of the 2012 lecture as a whole. Prof. Pollock cites Macaulay and Weber as ????????? positions to his own, opposite view. Prof. Pollock presents Macaulay and Weber as examples of the worst kind of misunderstanding of Indian wisdom. He does this in order to build his own argument that there is a deeper knowledge in India than Macaualy or Weber realized, the knowledge that is the "South Asian Knowledge" of his title. This is the knowledge of the Indian ??????????, the Indian knowledge systems that Prof. Pollock is defending. Prof. Ramasubramanian then cites a passage in which Prof. Pollock says, Are there any decision makers, as they refer to themselves, at universities and foundations who would not agree that, in the cognitive sweepstakes of human history, Western knowledge has won and South Asian knowledge has lost? ...That, accordingly, the South Asian knowledge South Asians themselves have produced can no longer be held to have any significant consequences for the future of the human species? In this passage, Prof. Pollock is criticising the administrators of western universities who do not give proper recognition and value to Indian knowledge systems, and only view India as a place to make money or to make practical applications of knowledge systems of the West. Again, this is the ?????????. Prof. Pollock's central argument is that the special, unique knowledge systems developed in India, mainly recorded in Sanskrit, are of great value, and that this fact is not recognized by "universities and foundations" who, like Macauley and Weber, think that Indian knowledge systems have been superseded by Western ones. Prof. Pollock's point of view is that the ?????????? , representing South Asian Knowledge, are precious, worth studying, and still have much to offer modern cultural life. On pages six and seven of his lecture, he gives the examples of ??????? and the theory of ?? as forms of knowledge that were developed to a uniquely high degree in early India, and that still have the power to enrich thought today. On the subsequent pages, he begins to make the even more difficult argument for finding modern value in even more internally-oriented Indian sciences such as ???????, ??????? and ????????????. The larger point of Prof. Pollock's article is that the institutions of higher education in America and elsewhere have found it difficult over the last fifty years or more to develop institutional structures to support the study of Indian knowledge systems, and that the South Asia Institute in Heidelberg is a model of success in allowing those who develop knowledge about India to work in harmony alongside those who deepen their appreciation of the knowledge that was developed by India. It would be possible to make similar arguments for the other evidence referred to by Prof. Ramasubramanian, e.g., Prof. Pollock's 1985 paper on the character and importance of ??????????, of South Asian knowledge systems. In that paper, Prof. Pollock says that, "Classical Indian civilization, however, offers what may be the most exquisite expression of the centrality of rule-governance in human behavior" and that ??stra is "a monumental, in some cases unparalleled, intellectual accomplishment in its own right." One could discuss this paper further. But to cite it as an example of a criticism of India is the opposite of the truth. It is regrettable that Prof. Ramasubramanian has misunderstood Prof. Pollock's views by 180 degrees. Prof. Pollock is a champion for the same values of Indian culture as Prof. Ramasubramanian. That is why Prof. Pollock devised and brought into being the Murty Classical Library. Many people have signed Prof. Ramasubramanian's petition, presumably without having read Prof. Pollock's work for themselves, or having failed to undestand it. The damage done by this misunderstanding is likely to last a long time, and hamper the efforts of Prof. Pollock and others who seek to bring the glory and subtlety of ancient Indian knowledge to the attention of the modern world. -- Professor Dominik Wujastyk* Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity Department of History and Classics University of Alberta, Canada _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mkapstei at uchicago.edu Sat Feb 27 16:28:09 2016 From: mkapstei at uchicago.edu (Matthew Kapstein) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 16 16:28:09 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Against the petition against Prof. Pollock In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <82C3E42590D939418C74DD76B97DDED047B63423@xm-mbx-04-prod> Dear Dominik, Thank you for taking the care to pick this apart, but I do not think that there is any question of "misunderstanding." I believe that it is, rather, a manifestation of a willful misconstrual of contemporary Indology and that we find also expressed in R. Jagannathan's "American Orientalism" piece to which Nityanand Misra called our attention in a post to this list not long ago. all best, Matthew Matthew Kapstein Directeur d'?tudes, Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, The University of Chicago ________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From franco at uni-leipzig.de Sat Feb 27 17:28:37 2016 From: franco at uni-leipzig.de (Eli Franco) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 16 18:28:37 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Against the petition against Prof. Pollock In-Reply-To: <82C3E42590D939418C74DD76B97DDED047B63423@xm-mbx-04-prod> Message-ID: <20160227182837.Horde.Sj9xEacYFJDAL43FxWempg7@mail.uni-leipzig.de> Does anyone have a scan of Pollock's paper? I would be grateful if someone could send it to me. Best wishes, Eli Zitat von Matthew Kapstein : > Dear Dominik, > > Thank you for taking the care to pick this apart, but > I do not think that there is any question of "misunderstanding." > > I believe that it is, rather, a manifestation of a willful > misconstrual of contemporary Indology > and that we find also expressed in R. Jagannathan's "American > Orientalism" piece > to which Nityanand Misra called our attention in a post to this list > not long ago. > > all best, > Matthew > > Matthew Kapstein > Directeur d'?tudes, > Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes > > Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, > The University of Chicago > ________________________________ -- Prof. Dr. Eli Franco Institut f?r Indologie und Zentralasienwissenschaften Schillerstr. 6 04109 Leipzig Ph. +49 341 9737 121, 9737 120 (dept. office) Fax +49 341 9737 148 From birgit.kellner at oeaw.ac.at Sat Feb 27 17:36:16 2016 From: birgit.kellner at oeaw.ac.at (Birgit Kellner) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 16 18:36:16 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Against the petition against Prof. Pollock In-Reply-To: <20160227182837.Horde.Sj9xEacYFJDAL43FxWempg7@mail.uni-leipzig.de> Message-ID: <56D1DE90.9050000@oeaw.ac.at> The paper "What is South Asian Knowledge Good For?" was published online and is available here: http://www.sai.uni-heidelberg.de/sai-paper/ Best wishes, Birgit Am 27.02.2016 um 18:28 schrieb Eli Franco: > > > Does anyone have a scan of Pollock's paper? I would be grateful if > someone could send it to me. > Best wishes, > Eli > > > > > > Zitat von Matthew Kapstein : > >> Dear Dominik, >> >> Thank you for taking the care to pick this apart, but >> I do not think that there is any question of "misunderstanding." >> >> I believe that it is, rather, a manifestation of a willful >> misconstrual of contemporary Indology >> and that we find also expressed in R. Jagannathan's "American >> Orientalism" piece >> to which Nityanand Misra called our attention in a post to this list >> not long ago. >> >> all best, >> Matthew >> >> Matthew Kapstein >> Directeur d'?tudes, >> Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes >> >> Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, >> The University of Chicago >> ________________________________ > > -- ------- Prof. Dr. Birgit Kellner Director Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia Austrian Academy of Sciences Apostelgasse 23 A-1030 Vienna / Austria Phone: (+43-1) 51581 / 6420 Fax: (+43-1) 51581 / 6410 http://ikga.oeaw.ac.at From franco at uni-leipzig.de Sat Feb 27 18:00:57 2016 From: franco at uni-leipzig.de (Eli Franco) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 16 19:00:57 +0100 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Against the petition against Prof. Pollock In-Reply-To: <56D1DE90.9050000@oeaw.ac.at> Message-ID: <20160227190057.Horde.oRhcZeEo9XfOn0vHml5BYg7@mail.uni-leipzig.de> Many thanks to everybody. This list is really helpful. With best wishes, Eli Zitat von Birgit Kellner : > The paper "What is South Asian Knowledge Good For?" was published online > and is available here: http://www.sai.uni-heidelberg.de/sai-paper/ > > Best wishes, > > Birgit > > Am 27.02.2016 um 18:28 schrieb Eli Franco: >> >> >> Does anyone have a scan of Pollock's paper? I would be grateful if >> someone could send it to me. >> Best wishes, >> Eli >> >> >> >> >> >> Zitat von Matthew Kapstein : >> >>> Dear Dominik, >>> >>> Thank you for taking the care to pick this apart, but >>> I do not think that there is any question of "misunderstanding." >>> >>> I believe that it is, rather, a manifestation of a willful >>> misconstrual of contemporary Indology >>> and that we find also expressed in R. Jagannathan's "American >>> Orientalism" piece >>> to which Nityanand Misra called our attention in a post to this list >>> not long ago. >>> >>> all best, >>> Matthew >>> >>> Matthew Kapstein >>> Directeur d'?tudes, >>> Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes >>> >>> Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, >>> The University of Chicago >>> ________________________________ >> >> > > > -- > ------- > Prof. Dr. Birgit Kellner > Director > Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia > Austrian Academy of Sciences > Apostelgasse 23 > A-1030 Vienna / Austria > Phone: (+43-1) 51581 / 6420 > Fax: (+43-1) 51581 / 6410 > http://ikga.oeaw.ac.at > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list > options or unsubscribe) -- Prof. Dr. Eli Franco Institut f?r Indologie und Zentralasienwissenschaften Schillerstr. 6 04109 Leipzig Ph. +49 341 9737 121, 9737 120 (dept. office) Fax +49 341 9737 148 From eastwestcultural at yahoo.com Sun Feb 28 05:40:36 2016 From: eastwestcultural at yahoo.com (Dean Michael Anderson) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 16 05:40:36 +0000 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Against the petition against Prof. Pollock In-Reply-To: <82C3E42590D939418C74DD76B97DDED047B63423@xm-mbx-04-prod> Message-ID: <328665013.379858.1456638036463.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> This appears to be the article that Matthew referred to. I missed it the first time around. http://swarajyamag.com/culture/american-orientalism-as-the-new-macaulayism-and-what-we-need-to-do-about-it Best, Dean From: Matthew Kapstein To: Dominik Wujastyk ; Indology Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Against the petition against Prof. Pollock #yiv6777814079 #yiv6777814079 --p {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv6777814079 #yiv6777814079 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}Dear Dominik, Thank you for taking the care to pick this apart, but I do not think that there is any question of "misunderstanding." I believe that it is, rather, a manifestation of a willful misconstrual of contemporary Indology and that we find also expressed in R. Jagannathan's "American Orientalism" piece to which Nityanand Misra called our attention in a post to this list not long ago. all best, Matthew Matthew Kapstein Directeur d'?tudes, Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies, The University of Chicago _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nmisra at gmail.com Sun Feb 28 10:46:01 2016 From: nmisra at gmail.com (Nityanand Misra) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 16 16:16:01 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] The battle for Sanskrit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear list members On Friday, the OPEN weekly magazine carried a review of *The Battle for Sanskrit* by the Cambridge-educated Indian economist Bibek Debroy (Padma Shri, Member of NITI Aayog, and translator of the BORI edition of the *Mahabharata* into English). The review, titled *Home Alone: There is more to Rajiv Malhotra?s latest book on Sanskrit than the usual Pollock pickle*, can be read under http://www.openthemagazine.com/article/books/home-alone More about Bibek Debroy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bibek_Debroy Regards, Nityanand On 28 January 2016 at 14:35, Nityanand Misra wrote: > Have not read the book, but a review by R Jagannathan was published on the > webiste of the right-of-centre Swarajyamag two days ago > > > http://swarajyamag.com/culture/american-orientalism-as-the-new-macaulayism-and-what-we-need-to-do-about-it/ > > About the reviewer: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Jagannathan_(journalist) > > > On Jan 15, 2016 11:24 AM, "patrick mccartney" > wrote: > >> Dear Friends, >> >> Has anyone had the opportunity to read Rajiv Malhotra's latest book? >> >> http://thebattleforsanskrit.com/synopsis/ >> >> I'm curious to know what the '*new thrust* in Western Indology' is and >> where/how it 'goes wrong'. [emphasis mine] >> >> >> >> >> All the best, >> >> Patrick McCartney >> >> PhD Candidate >> School of Culture, History & Language >> College of the Asia-Pacific >> The Australian National University >> Canberra, Australia, 0200 >> >> >> Skype - psdmccartney >> Phone + Whatsapp: +61 414 954 748 >> >> >> >> - *https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=241756978&trk=nav_responsive_tab_profile >> * >> - *https://anu-au.academia.edu/patrickmccartney >> * >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy6lVABgjmg >> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVqBD_2P4Pg >> >> http://youtu.be/y3XfjbwqC_g >> >> http://trinityroots.bandcamp.com/track/all-we-be >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > -- Nity?nanda Mi?ra http://nmisra.googlepages.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nmisra at gmail.com Sun Feb 28 11:41:05 2016 From: nmisra at gmail.com (Nityanand Misra) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 16 17:11:05 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Against the petition against Prof. Pollock In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 27 February 2016 at 21:22, Dominik Wujastyk wrote: > I discovered yesterday that there exists a petition > > launched by Prof. K. Ramasubramanian that asks for Prof. Sheldon Pollock to > be removed from his editorial leadership role with the Murty Library. > > Dear list members It is the season of petitions and statements! Adding some more details before my comments: 1) While the petition of change.org has been started by Prof. K Ramasubramanian, as many as 131 Indian intellectuals apart from Prof. K Ramasubramanian signed the original plea to Mr. Narayana Murthy and Mr. Rohan Murthy. I do not know if it was covered in a mainstream media source, the much less-known newsgram.com carried it: http://www.newsgram.com/132-indian-academicians-call-for-removal-of-sheldon-pollock-as-general-editor-of-murthy-classical-library/ I personally know and have met with many scholars on the list: and some of them are very well respected in India, in addition to being well-known. Prof. Ramasubramanian himself is a recipient of the Badarayan Vyas Samman. 2) Apart from the aspects highlighted in Dr. Wujastyk's email, two other aspects which are very relevant to this petition: the letter by the academicians mentions Mr. Rajiv Malhotra's *Battle of Sanskrit* as well as Prof. Pollock's recent signing of the solidarity statement with the ?students, faculty, and staff of JNU?: the petition against Prof. Pollock may well be a reaction to this. On the first aspect: Recently, Mr. Rajiv Malhotra's book has been widely discussed in Indian universities of late. Mr. Malhotra has been hosted by several Indian universities and institutes (e.g. Karnataka Sanskrit University and TISS) for talks where he has received both support and opposition, but more support than opposition as far as I can say. On the second aspect, there was a discussion on the *Bh?rat?yavidvatpari?at *mailing list (Mr. Rajiv Malhotra recently joined this mailing list). The thread was started by me, and I remarked in my short initial post ?Before the Indian courts decide, 455 academicians have already reached a decision.? The discussion can be read here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bvparishat/cTgsJDKjA8I My quick comments: If it can be argued that the petition against Prof. Pollock is based on ?misunderstanding? or ?wilful misconstrual? (as members on this list have described), then it can also be argued that the solidarity statement (to which Prof. Pollock is a signatory) on the JNU issue is based on a ?lack of understanding? of jurisprudence in India or ?wilful misrepresentation? of facts. On jurisprudence: The Delhi Police has the documentary (video tapes) and non-documentary (eye-witnesses) evidence, and the Indian courts will examine the evidence and rule on the matter: then in what capacity does the solidarity statement declare thrice that the police action on JNU was ?illegal?. On misrepresentation, the solidarity statement misses that fact that a large section of JNU students and teachers did support the police action on JNU. This was also covered in the news: http://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/180-JNU-Teachers-Take-the-Sarkari-Side-Demand-Action-Against-Students/2016/02/16/article3280826.ece As I see it, both petitions are rooted more in strong differences of opinion/ideology than in misunderstanding or wilful misconstrual/misrepresentation. Thanks, Nityanand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at umich.edu Sun Feb 28 14:01:02 2016 From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 16 09:01:02 -0500 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Against the petition against Prof. Pollock In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Colleagues, I could not agree more with Dr. Nityananda Misra's concluding statement: "As I see it, both petitions are rooted more in strong differences of opinion/ideology than in misunderstanding or wilful misconstrual/misrepresentation." This ideological divide is now at the boiling point, but the first time I came face to face with it was in 1965 in Pune. There was a Pandit Sabha in which some leading Pandits were discussing some grammatical point, citing the authority of Pata?jali. My teacher, Professor S.D. Joshi was in the audience and wanted to make a comment that disagreed with Pata?jali's views. The Pandits told him that he could not participate in the discussion, unless he first accepted the supreme authority of Pata?jali. Professor Joshi sat down, without being allowed to speak at this event. I don't know where the current "Battle for Sanskrit" will end up, but it clearly has very deep roots. Madhav Deshpande On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 6:41 AM, Nityanand Misra wrote: > > > On 27 February 2016 at 21:22, Dominik Wujastyk wrote: > >> I discovered yesterday that there exists a petition >> >> launched by Prof. K. Ramasubramanian that asks for Prof. Sheldon Pollock to >> be removed from his editorial leadership role with the Murty Library. >> >> > Dear list members > > It is the season of petitions and statements! Adding some more details > before my comments: > > 1) While the petition of change.org has been started by Prof. K > Ramasubramanian, as many as 131 Indian intellectuals apart from Prof. K > Ramasubramanian signed the original plea to Mr. Narayana Murthy and Mr. > Rohan Murthy. I do not know if it was covered in a mainstream media source, > the much less-known newsgram.com carried it: > http://www.newsgram.com/132-indian-academicians-call-for-removal-of-sheldon-pollock-as-general-editor-of-murthy-classical-library/ > I personally know and have met with many scholars on the list: and some of > them are very well respected in India, in addition to being well-known. > Prof. Ramasubramanian himself is a recipient of the Badarayan Vyas Samman. > > 2) Apart from the aspects highlighted in Dr. Wujastyk's email, two other > aspects which are very relevant to this petition: the letter by the > academicians mentions Mr. Rajiv Malhotra's *Battle of Sanskrit* as well > as Prof. Pollock's recent signing of the solidarity statement with the > ?students, faculty, and staff of JNU?: the petition against Prof. Pollock > may well be a reaction to this. On the first aspect: Recently, Mr. Rajiv > Malhotra's book has been widely discussed in Indian universities of late. > Mr. Malhotra has been hosted by several Indian universities and institutes > (e.g. Karnataka Sanskrit University and TISS) for talks where he has > received both support and opposition, but more support than opposition as > far as I can say. On the second aspect, there was a discussion on the *Bh?rat?yavidvatpari?at > *mailing list (Mr. Rajiv Malhotra recently joined this mailing list). The > thread was started by me, and I remarked in my short initial post ?Before > the Indian courts decide, 455 academicians have already reached a > decision.? The discussion can be read here: > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bvparishat/cTgsJDKjA8I > > My quick comments: > If it can be argued that the petition against Prof. Pollock is based on > ?misunderstanding? or ?wilful misconstrual? (as members on this list have > described), then it can also be argued that the solidarity statement (to > which Prof. Pollock is a signatory) on the JNU issue is based on a ?lack of > understanding? of jurisprudence in India or ?wilful misrepresentation? of > facts. On jurisprudence: The Delhi Police has the documentary (video tapes) > and non-documentary (eye-witnesses) evidence, and the Indian courts will > examine the evidence and rule on the matter: then in what capacity does the > solidarity statement declare thrice that the police action on JNU was > ?illegal?. On misrepresentation, the solidarity statement misses that fact > that a large section of JNU students and teachers did support the police > action on JNU. This was also covered in the news: > http://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/180-JNU-Teachers-Take-the-Sarkari-Side-Demand-Action-Against-Students/2016/02/16/article3280826.ece > > As I see it, both petitions are rooted more in strong differences of > opinion/ideology than in misunderstanding or wilful > misconstrual/misrepresentation. > > Thanks, Nityanand > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > -- Madhav M. Deshpande Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics Department of Asian Languages and Cultures 202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111 The University of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48104-1608, USA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andrew.ollett at gmail.com Sun Feb 28 14:33:36 2016 From: andrew.ollett at gmail.com (Andrew Ollett) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 16 09:33:36 -0500 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Against the petition against Prof. Pollock In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It is perfectly clear that there are fundamental differences of opinion, including two very different views of what scholarship (especially historical scholarship) should do and what its responsibilities to the past and the present are. But it is also clear from the petition and many other cases that Malhotra and his followers purposely distort Pollock's arguments in order to make them accord with the caricature they have presented. They need to believe that he is a present-day Thomas Macaulay who has "deep antipathy" to "Indian culture." That, in the end, is what this petition is about. The point is simply to try to harass, malign, and discredit people who write things that don't always and entirely accord with a particular vision of the Indian past (or present, as seems to be more relevant here) using the divisive and ugly rhetoric that Malhotra has coined ("insiders" and "outsiders," "sepoys," "Orientalists," "Macaulayites," etc.). I would say that Malhotra and his followers are free to raise money for their own series of books that will duly reflect their vision of the Indian past, but they have actually done this, and anyway that's not the point: it's to *stop* the people they disagree with. On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Madhav Deshpande wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > I could not agree more with Dr. Nityananda Misra's concluding statement: "As > I see it, both petitions are rooted more in strong differences of > opinion/ideology than in misunderstanding or wilful misconstrual/misrepresentation." > This ideological divide is now at the boiling point, but the first time I > came face to face with it was in 1965 in Pune. There was a Pandit Sabha in > which some leading Pandits were discussing some grammatical point, citing > the authority of Pata?jali. My teacher, Professor S.D. Joshi was in the > audience and wanted to make a comment that disagreed with Pata?jali's > views. The Pandits told him that he could not participate in the > discussion, unless he first accepted the supreme authority of Pata?jali. > Professor Joshi sat down, without being allowed to speak at this event. I > don't know where the current "Battle for Sanskrit" will end up, but it > clearly has very deep roots. > > Madhav Deshpande > > On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 6:41 AM, Nityanand Misra wrote: > >> >> >> On 27 February 2016 at 21:22, Dominik Wujastyk >> wrote: >> >>> I discovered yesterday that there exists a petition >>> >>> launched by Prof. K. Ramasubramanian that asks for Prof. Sheldon Pollock to >>> be removed from his editorial leadership role with the Murty Library. >>> >>> >> Dear list members >> >> It is the season of petitions and statements! Adding some more details >> before my comments: >> >> 1) While the petition of change.org has been started by Prof. K >> Ramasubramanian, as many as 131 Indian intellectuals apart from Prof. K >> Ramasubramanian signed the original plea to Mr. Narayana Murthy and Mr. >> Rohan Murthy. I do not know if it was covered in a mainstream media source, >> the much less-known newsgram.com carried it: >> http://www.newsgram.com/132-indian-academicians-call-for-removal-of-sheldon-pollock-as-general-editor-of-murthy-classical-library/ >> I personally know and have met with many scholars on the list: and some >> of them are very well respected in India, in addition to being well-known. >> Prof. Ramasubramanian himself is a recipient of the Badarayan Vyas Samman. >> >> 2) Apart from the aspects highlighted in Dr. Wujastyk's email, two other >> aspects which are very relevant to this petition: the letter by the >> academicians mentions Mr. Rajiv Malhotra's *Battle of Sanskrit* as well >> as Prof. Pollock's recent signing of the solidarity statement with the >> ?students, faculty, and staff of JNU?: the petition against Prof. Pollock >> may well be a reaction to this. On the first aspect: Recently, Mr. Rajiv >> Malhotra's book has been widely discussed in Indian universities of late. >> Mr. Malhotra has been hosted by several Indian universities and institutes >> (e.g. Karnataka Sanskrit University and TISS) for talks where he has >> received both support and opposition, but more support than opposition as >> far as I can say. On the second aspect, there was a discussion on the *Bh?rat?yavidvatpari?at >> *mailing list (Mr. Rajiv Malhotra recently joined this mailing list). >> The thread was started by me, and I remarked in my short initial post >> ?Before the Indian courts decide, 455 academicians have already reached a >> decision.? The discussion can be read here: >> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bvparishat/cTgsJDKjA8I >> >> My quick comments: >> If it can be argued that the petition against Prof. Pollock is based on >> ?misunderstanding? or ?wilful misconstrual? (as members on this list have >> described), then it can also be argued that the solidarity statement (to >> which Prof. Pollock is a signatory) on the JNU issue is based on a ?lack of >> understanding? of jurisprudence in India or ?wilful misrepresentation? of >> facts. On jurisprudence: The Delhi Police has the documentary (video tapes) >> and non-documentary (eye-witnesses) evidence, and the Indian courts will >> examine the evidence and rule on the matter: then in what capacity does the >> solidarity statement declare thrice that the police action on JNU was >> ?illegal?. On misrepresentation, the solidarity statement misses that fact >> that a large section of JNU students and teachers did support the police >> action on JNU. This was also covered in the news: >> http://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/180-JNU-Teachers-Take-the-Sarkari-Side-Demand-Action-Against-Students/2016/02/16/article3280826.ece >> >> As I see it, both petitions are rooted more in strong differences of >> opinion/ideology than in misunderstanding or wilful >> misconstrual/misrepresentation. >> >> Thanks, Nityanand >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > > > -- > Madhav M. 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The point is simply to try to harass, malign, and discredit people > who write things that don't always and entirely accord with a particular > vision of the Indian past (or present, as seems to be more relevant here) > using the divisive and ugly rhetoric that Malhotra has coined ("insiders" > and "outsiders," "sepoys," "Orientalists," "Macaulayites," etc.). > > I would say that Malhotra and his followers are free to raise money for > their own series of books that will duly reflect their vision of the Indian > past, but they have actually done this, and anyway that's not the point: > it's to *stop* the people they disagree with. > > > While the petition does cite Mr. Malhotra and his latest book, I do not believe that the 132 signatories can be characterized as ?Malhotra's followers?: quite a few are distinguished scholars in the field of Sanskrit and Indology and a name in themselves. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tylerwwilliams at gmail.com Sun Feb 28 19:33:36 2016 From: tylerwwilliams at gmail.com (Tyler Williams) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 16 13:33:36 -0600 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Against the petition against Prof. Pollock In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thank you, Dominik, for bringing this to everyone's attention. As you correctly point out, such misunderstandings, whether willful or sincere, have long-lasting consequences for the relationships between scholars working on Indic material and for the potential to collaborate and move scholarship forward. Unfortunately, the effort to deliberately misread Pollock's and other's statements is appearing in several places these days, including the right-wing #Swarajya blog in which R. Jagannathan, quoting Malhotra and without actually having read Pollock, suggests that Pollock is part of a Christian evangelical movement. As ludicrous as the suggestion sounds to those of us who have read Pollock (or worked directly with him), to those unfamiliar with Pollock's work it might seem plausible. As others have stated more eloquently than I can, this is indeed part of a larger attack on scholarship being pursued by academics in India and abroad who are seen as threats to a narrowly-conceived Hindutva ideological program. As R. Jagannathan demonstrates, the targets of attacks like those of Malhotra and Ramasubramanian are not just 'foreign' scholars like Pollock, but also Indian scholars like D.D. Kosambi who, despite making huge contributions to the field, occupy ideological positions that the Hindutva right finds unacceptable. Thus what a non-Indian like Pollock writes is 'colonialism', and what an Indian like Kosambi writes is 'sedition'. On that note, scholars outside of India, both Indian and non-Indian, who have signed positions in support of academic freedom in JNU and across India have been receiving emails from organizations purporting to represent Indian nationalist and diasporic interests warning them that signing such positions could endanger the scholar's ability to do research in India in the future. Thus the joint nature of the attacks on 'foreign' and 'indigenous' scholars becomes clear. If any joint effort is to be made to help clear up the confusion and maintain good working relationships between Indian and non-Indian scholars, then I would be happy to contribute. As a former student and teacher at JNU (and simply as an academic), I have been heartened to see the tremendous outpouring of support by scholars around the world for the right to free speech and debate there (and across India). Best, Tyler Williams Assistant Professor University of Chicago On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Dominik Wujastyk wrote: > I discovered yesterday that there exists a petition > > launched by Prof. K. Ramasubramanian that asks for Prof. Sheldon Pollock to > be removed from his editorial leadership role with the Murty Library. > > The argument against Pollock is based on the idea that, "he has deep > antipathy towards many of the ideals and values cherished and practiced in > our civilization." The most prominent evidence given to support this > assertion is a quotation from a 2012 lecture that Prof. Pollock gave at the > South Asia Institute in Heidelberg, titled, "What is South Asian Knowledge > Good For?" Prof. Ramasubramanian states that Prof. Pollock "echoes the > views of Macaulay and Max Weber that the shastras generated in India serve > no contemporary purpose except for the study of how Indians express > themselves." Unfortunately, Prof. Ramasubramanian has not correctly > understood these passages in Prof. Pollock's paper, nor the meaning of the > 2012 lecture as a whole. > > Prof. Pollock cites Macaulay and Weber as ????????? positions to his own, > opposite view. Prof. Pollock presents Macaulay and Weber as examples of > the worst kind of misunderstanding of Indian wisdom. He does this in order > to build his own argument that there is a deeper knowledge in India than > Macaualy or Weber realized, the knowledge that is the "South Asian > Knowledge" of his title. This is the knowledge of the Indian ??????????, > the Indian knowledge systems that Prof. Pollock is defending. > > Prof. Ramasubramanian then cites a passage in which Prof. Pollock says, > > Are there any decision makers, as they refer to themselves, at > universities and foundations who would not agree that, in the cognitive > sweepstakes of human history, Western knowledge has won and South Asian > knowledge has lost? ...That, accordingly, the South Asian knowledge South > Asians themselves have produced can no longer be held to have any > significant consequences for the future of the human species? > > In this passage, Prof. Pollock is *criticising* the administrators of > western universities who do not give proper recognition and value to Indian > knowledge systems, and only view India as a place to make money or to make > practical applications of knowledge systems of the West. Again, this is > the ?????????. Prof. Pollock's central argument is that the special, > unique knowledge systems developed in India, mainly recorded in Sanskrit, > are of great value, and that this fact is not recognized by "universities > and foundations" who, like Macauley and Weber, think that Indian knowledge > systems have been superseded by Western ones. Prof. Pollock's point of > view is that the ?????????? , representing South Asian Knowledge, are > precious, worth studying, and still have much to offer modern cultural > life. On pages six and seven of his lecture, he gives the examples of > ??????? and the theory of ?? as forms of knowledge that were developed to a > uniquely high degree in early India, and that still have the power to > enrich thought today. On the subsequent pages, he begins to make the even > more difficult argument for finding modern value in even more > internally-oriented Indian sciences such as ???????, ??????? and > ????????????. > > The larger point of Prof. Pollock's article is that the institutions of > higher education in America and elsewhere have found it difficult over the > last fifty years or more to develop institutional structures to support the > study of *Indian* knowledge systems, and that the South Asia Institute in > Heidelberg is a model of success in allowing those who develop knowledge *about > *India to work in harmony alongside those who deepen their appreciation > of the knowledge that was developed *by *India. > > It would be possible to make similar arguments for the other evidence > referred to by Prof. Ramasubramanian, e.g., Prof. Pollock's 1985 paper on > the character and importance of ??????????, of South Asian knowledge > systems. In that paper, Prof. Pollock says that, "Classical Indian > civilization, however, offers what may be the most exquisite expression of > the centrality of rule-governance in human behavior" and that ??stra is "a > monumental, in some cases unparalleled, intellectual accomplishment in its > own right." One could discuss this paper further. But to cite it as an > example of a criticism of India is the opposite of the truth. > > It is regrettable that Prof. Ramasubramanian has misunderstood Prof. > Pollock's views by 180 degrees. Prof. Pollock is a champion for the same > values of Indian culture as Prof. Ramasubramanian. That is why Prof. > Pollock devised and brought into being the Murty Classical Library. > > Many people have signed Prof. Ramasubramanian's petition, presumably > without having read Prof. Pollock's work for themselves, or having failed > to undestand it. 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Try it! ________________________________ ________________________________ From: INDOLOGY on behalf of Nityanand Misra Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 9:46 PM To: patrick mccartney Cc: Indology Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] The battle for Sanskrit Dear list members On Friday, the OPEN weekly magazine carried a review of The Battle for Sanskrit by the Cambridge-educated Indian economist Bibek Debroy (Padma Shri, Member of NITI Aayog, and translator of the BORI edition of the Mahabharata into English). The review, titled Home Alone: There is more to Rajiv Malhotra's latest book on Sanskrit than the usual Pollock pickle, can be read under http://www.openthemagazine.com/article/books/home-alone More about Bibek Debroy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bibek_Debroy Regards, Nityanand On 28 January 2016 at 14:35, Nityanand Misra > wrote: Have not read the book, but a review by R Jagannathan was published on the webiste of the right-of-centre Swarajyamag two days ago http://swarajyamag.com/culture/american-orientalism-as-the-new-macaulayism-and-what-we-need-to-do-about-it/ About the reviewer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Jagannathan_(journalist) On Jan 15, 2016 11:24 AM, "patrick mccartney" > wrote: Dear Friends, Has anyone had the opportunity to read Rajiv Malhotra's latest book? http://thebattleforsanskrit.com/synopsis/ I'm curious to know what the 'new thrust in Western Indology' is and where/how it 'goes wrong'. 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URL: From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com Mon Feb 29 07:40:41 2016 From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi) Date: Mon, 29 Feb 16 13:10:41 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Against the petition against Prof. Pollock Message-ID: Thanks Prof. Birgit Kellner for providing the SAI link for the paper by Prof. Pollock. I read the paper. There indeed seems to be a misunderstanding on the part of those who found this paper to be demeaning the knowledge of the South Asian or Indian or Sanskrit authors. The whole paper is a narrative account of the developments in American universities with regard to study of Sanskrit, how the departments in the form of Area Studies departments, in this case, the departments of South Asian Studies affected was discussed with a tone of dissatisfaction about how the whole thing went about, mixed with a style of wit and humour at times. There in fact is a sense of respect for the knowledge generated by South Asians in the paper. For many Indian university academicians, the narrative of developments and the lamentation about those developments, sounds familiar as there are similar disciplinary reorganizations and establishing new centeres and departments keep happening in India that lead to the detriment of certain earlier focuses and incomplete projects. Though Prof. Pollock just mentioned and did not elaborate much on that, there is a clue in this paper, to what could be the source of the impression of antipathy of American academicians like Prof. Pollock towards the texts and the people that are their subject matter. It is the new trend (or paradigm, can we say) of de-exoticization (or, though he did not use the word, deromanticization) of the view towards the subject matter. I shall post separately on the details of this possible source of misunderstanding. Nagaraj -- Nagaraj Paturi Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. 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Regards, Artur Karp Warsaw, Poland 2016-02-28 15:01 GMT+01:00 Madhav Deshpande : > Dear Colleagues, > > I could not agree more with Dr. Nityananda Misra's concluding statement: "As > I see it, both petitions are rooted more in strong differences of > opinion/ideology than in misunderstanding or wilful misconstrual/misrepresentation." > This ideological divide is now at the boiling point, but the first time I > came face to face with it was in 1965 in Pune. There was a Pandit Sabha in > which some leading Pandits were discussing some grammatical point, citing > the authority of Pata?jali. My teacher, Professor S.D. Joshi was in the > audience and wanted to make a comment that disagreed with Pata?jali's > views. The Pandits told him that he could not participate in the > discussion, unless he first accepted the supreme authority of Pata?jali. > Professor Joshi sat down, without being allowed to speak at this event. I > don't know where the current "Battle for Sanskrit" will end up, but it > clearly has very deep roots. > > Madhav Deshpande > > On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 6:41 AM, Nityanand Misra wrote: > >> >> >> On 27 February 2016 at 21:22, Dominik Wujastyk >> wrote: >> >>> I discovered yesterday that there exists a petition >>> >>> launched by Prof. K. Ramasubramanian that asks for Prof. Sheldon Pollock to >>> be removed from his editorial leadership role with the Murty Library. >>> >>> >> Dear list members >> >> It is the season of petitions and statements! Adding some more details >> before my comments: >> >> 1) While the petition of change.org has been started by Prof. K >> Ramasubramanian, as many as 131 Indian intellectuals apart from Prof. K >> Ramasubramanian signed the original plea to Mr. Narayana Murthy and Mr. >> Rohan Murthy. I do not know if it was covered in a mainstream media source, >> the much less-known newsgram.com carried it: >> http://www.newsgram.com/132-indian-academicians-call-for-removal-of-sheldon-pollock-as-general-editor-of-murthy-classical-library/ >> I personally know and have met with many scholars on the list: and some >> of them are very well respected in India, in addition to being well-known. >> Prof. Ramasubramanian himself is a recipient of the Badarayan Vyas Samman. >> >> 2) Apart from the aspects highlighted in Dr. Wujastyk's email, two other >> aspects which are very relevant to this petition: the letter by the >> academicians mentions Mr. Rajiv Malhotra's *Battle of Sanskrit* as well >> as Prof. Pollock's recent signing of the solidarity statement with the >> ?students, faculty, and staff of JNU?: the petition against Prof. Pollock >> may well be a reaction to this. On the first aspect: Recently, Mr. Rajiv >> Malhotra's book has been widely discussed in Indian universities of late. >> Mr. Malhotra has been hosted by several Indian universities and institutes >> (e.g. Karnataka Sanskrit University and TISS) for talks where he has >> received both support and opposition, but more support than opposition as >> far as I can say. On the second aspect, there was a discussion on the *Bh?rat?yavidvatpari?at >> *mailing list (Mr. Rajiv Malhotra recently joined this mailing list). >> The thread was started by me, and I remarked in my short initial post >> ?Before the Indian courts decide, 455 academicians have already reached a >> decision.? The discussion can be read here: >> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bvparishat/cTgsJDKjA8I >> >> My quick comments: >> If it can be argued that the petition against Prof. Pollock is based on >> ?misunderstanding? or ?wilful misconstrual? (as members on this list have >> described), then it can also be argued that the solidarity statement (to >> which Prof. Pollock is a signatory) on the JNU issue is based on a ?lack of >> understanding? of jurisprudence in India or ?wilful misrepresentation? of >> facts. On jurisprudence: The Delhi Police has the documentary (video tapes) >> and non-documentary (eye-witnesses) evidence, and the Indian courts will >> examine the evidence and rule on the matter: then in what capacity does the >> solidarity statement declare thrice that the police action on JNU was >> ?illegal?. On misrepresentation, the solidarity statement misses that fact >> that a large section of JNU students and teachers did support the police >> action on JNU. This was also covered in the news: >> http://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/180-JNU-Teachers-Take-the-Sarkari-Side-Demand-Action-Against-Students/2016/02/16/article3280826.ece >> >> As I see it, both petitions are rooted more in strong differences of >> opinion/ideology than in misunderstanding or wilful >> misconstrual/misrepresentation. >> >> Thanks, Nityanand >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info >> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) >> > > > > -- > Madhav M. 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URL: From harzer at utexas.edu Mon Feb 29 17:28:47 2016 From: harzer at utexas.edu (Edeltraud Harzer) Date: Mon, 29 Feb 16 11:28:47 -0600 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Bibek Debroy and Mbh In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3EEE5E08-E66D-4F89-A0C3-460ED9871471@utexas.edu> Please check Debroy?s MBH on Amazon.com Edeltraud Harzer. > On Feb 28, 2016, at 9:22 PM, McComas Taylor wrote: > > Dear Colleagues > > I was fascinated to see from his website that Bibek Debroy has published a translation of most of Mbh - has anyone looked at this? Have there been any scholarly reviews? > > Thanks in advance > > McC > > > McComas Taylor, Associate Professor > College of Asia and the Pacific > The Australian National University, Tel. + 61 2 6125 3179 > Website: https://sites.google.com/site/mccomasanu/ > Address: Baldessin Building 4.24, ANU, ACT 0200 > > Spoken Sanskrit in three minutes? ?Go on. Try it! > > > > From: INDOLOGY > on behalf of Nityanand Misra > > Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 9:46 PM > To: patrick mccartney > Cc: Indology > Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] The battle for Sanskrit > > Dear list members > > On Friday, the OPEN weekly magazine carried a review of The Battle for Sanskrit by the Cambridge-educated Indian economist Bibek Debroy (Padma Shri, Member of NITI Aayog, and translator of the BORI edition of the Mahabharata into English). The review, titled Home Alone: There is more to Rajiv Malhotra?s latest book on Sanskrit than the usual Pollock pickle, can be read under > > http://www.openthemagazine.com/article/books/home-alone > > More about Bibek Debroy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bibek_Debroy > > Regards, Nityanand > > > On 28 January 2016 at 14:35, Nityanand Misra > wrote: > Have not read the book, but a review by R Jagannathan was published on the webiste of the right-of-centre Swarajyamag two days ago > http://swarajyamag.com/culture/american-orientalism-as-the-new-macaulayism-and-what-we-need-to-do-about-it/ > About the reviewer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Jagannathan_(journalist) > > > On Jan 15, 2016 11:24 AM, "patrick mccartney" > wrote: > Dear Friends, > > Has anyone had the opportunity to read Rajiv Malhotra's latest book? > > http://thebattleforsanskrit.com/synopsis/ > > I'm curious to know what the 'new thrust in Western Indology' is and where/how it 'goes wrong'. [emphasis mine] > > > > > All the best, > > Patrick McCartney > > PhD Candidate > School of Culture, History & Language > College of the Asia-Pacific > The Australian National University > Canberra, Australia, 0200 > > > Skype - psdmccartney > Phone + Whatsapp: +61 414 954 748 > > > https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=241756978&trk=nav_responsive_tab_profile > https://anu-au.academia.edu/patrickmccartney > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy6lVABgjmg > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVqBD_2P4Pg > > http://youtu.be/y3XfjbwqC_g > > http://trinityroots.bandcamp.com/track/all-we-be > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > > -- > Nity?nanda Mi?ra > http://nmisra.googlepages.com > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info > indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vajpeyi at csds.in Mon Feb 29 18:41:01 2016 From: vajpeyi at csds.in (Ananya Vajpeyi) Date: Tue, 01 Mar 16 00:11:01 +0530 Subject: [INDOLOGY] MCLI / Pollock Petition Message-ID: Dear Colleagues, As many on this list including Dominik Wujastyk, Matthew Kapstein, Madhav Deshpande and Tyler Williams, among others, have pointed out, the petition to remove Professor Pollock from the General Editorship of the Murty Classical Library of India suffers from either a deliberate or a genuine misreading of his writings and lectures. Moreover it is motivated not just by his vocal stand in favour of the freedom of expression and the right to dissent in India and elsewhere reiterated numerous times of late, but also by a desire on the part of the sponsors and writers of this petition to generate some sliver of scholarly attention for Rajiv Malhotra's new book, The Battle for Sanskrit. Apart from being a plagiarist, Malhotra is no scholar of anything, least of all Indology or Sanskrit. (I'm not even sure if any book by him can be accurately described as "new", given his record of plagiarism). His entire strategy of calling attention to his publications, such as they are, is to make ad hominem attacks on bona fide scholars, especially Professor Pollock, and now almost exclusively him (though others of us have been collateral damage in the past). In my view, Malhotra's latest book deserves not one minute of our time, and is best left to rightwing propaganda publications like Swarajya, Niti Central and other blogs, newspapers etc. of that ilk to review (or not). It's an echo chamber of Hindutva paranoia and self-congratulation, untouched by scholarship. Why spoil their party? As for the 10,000 signatures on the petition, these things are easily managed by the cyber-machinery of the Sangh Parivar. Not for nothing are there entire dedicated cells of trolls and bots whose job it is to swell the numbers, as it were, merely the digital reflection of a larger ideology of majoritarianism at work. I am assured by the concerned editors at Harvard University Press and by Professor Pollock himself that HUP and Harvard's legal and PR departments are well placed to handle this kind of -- well, whatever you want to call it -- provocation, irritation, distraction, or incitement. We really need not worry our heads engaging with these people as though they might actually know something about the classics, of any language, whether of early or modern South Asia. Goodness knows we all have enough on our plates, with JNU and other public universities and their students across India in dire need of our material and moral support at a moment of real political crisis. 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