[INDOLOGY] Article about the politics surrounding Indology at the IHRC

Howard Resnick hr at ivs.edu
Thu Jun 11 11:37:16 UTC 2015


On what do most experts base their opinion that IVC people did not speak an IE or IA language? Thanks.

Howard

> On Jun 11, 2015, at 1:14 PM, Jesse Knutson <jknutson at hawaii.edu> wrote:
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> From: Jesse Knutson <jknutson at hawaii.edu <mailto:jknutson at hawaii.edu>>
> Date: Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 3:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Article about the politics surrounding Indology at the IHRC
> To: Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi at gmail.com <mailto:nagarajpaturi at gmail.com>>
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> Prof. Paturi, Kind sir, 1. I only wished to point out that the IVC was a distinct civilization from the speakers of Old Indo- Aryan. I did not mean better, just technologically more advanced, and distinct. This are facts that need not contain any additional value judgment. 2. I know that IVC seals have not been deciphered, but simply wished to point out that in all probability, in the opinion of most experts, they did not speak an Indo-European or Indo-Aryan language. The only people who believe otherwise are the true racists and chauvinists, the Hindutva morons who sadly are in a position of great power in your country today.
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> So I would recommend that, in a spirit of intellectual integrity and calm, you try to discern the intent of someone's comments, before you start using heated language, and calling people racists and chauvinists. 
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> Good day,J 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 12:45 AM, Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi at gmail.com <mailto:nagarajpaturi at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Apart from Prof. Howard Resnick's analysis, the following from  Prof. Jesse Knutston also deserves attention:
>  
> when in fact the IVC was a highly developed civilization, of greater
> antiquity than the Veda, which did not speak an Indo-Aryan or Indo-European
> language. To attribute the IVC cultural achievements to the speakers of
> Vedic is extremely racist and chauvinistic.
> 
> 1. 'IVC was a highly developed Civilization' has the following assumptions : a. civilizations are superior to non-civilizational cultures. b. IVC has that superiority of being a civilizational culture. This is confirmed by the expression 'IVC cultural acievements'
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> 2. 'which did not speak an Indo-Aryan or Indo-European language' has this assumption: The language spoken by the IVC people is clearly, undisputedly known through the decipherment of the seals and other such 'written' evidences.
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> Assumption under 1. is racist, evolutionist and has urban chauvinism.
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> Assumtion under 2. is in contradiction with the fact that the language of the IVC speakers is still under dispute and not yet clearly established.
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> Prof.Nagaraj Paturi
> Hyderabad-500044
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