From christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be  Sun Feb  1 11:40:39 2015
From: christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be (Christophe Vielle)
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 15 12:40:39 +0100
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Louis_de_la_Vall=C3=A9e_Poussin_Memorial_Volume_=E2=89=A0_IHQ_16,_1940?=
In-Reply-To: <BD4E47B6-526D-47E2-9476-38AA05BD30C4@uclouvain.be>
Message-ID: <58F8D328-30EE-4B3E-8AF4-7E792BADA1A5@uclouvain.be>

Dear List,

since apparently the exemplar of the University of Virginia ( https://books.google.be/books?id=XN4NAAAAYAAJ ) is not downloadable even from the USA (what I hoped, because from here it is only poorly searchable), I finally found the needed volume... on the DLI again and under the title
"louis de law valle poussin memorial volume" (sic, a mix of Narendra Nath LAW/LA Vall?e Poussin?)
http://www.new1.dli.ernet.in/scripts/FullindexDefault.htm?path1=/data3/upload/0081/344&first=1&last=500&barcode=99999990226444
(the front-cover, if there was one, is apparently missing)
I attach the table of contents (the whole volume deserves to be uploaded to Archives.org ; sorry for being myself unable to do that and make combined .pdf with the DLI stuff)
Thank you to all who kindly have tried to help,
Best wishes,
Christophe


D?but du message r?exp?di? :

> De: Christophe Vielle <christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be>
> Objet: [INDOLOGY] Louis de la Vall?e Poussin Memorial Volume ? IHQ 16, 1940
> Date: 30 janvier 2015 21:53:01 UTC+1
> ?: Indology <indology at list.indology.info>
> 
> Dear List,
> 
> I would be interested in a .pdf copy of Louis de la Vall?e Poussin Memorial Volume, ed. Narendra Nath Law, Calcutta (Oriental Press), 1940:
> https://books.google.be/books?id=XN4NAAAAYAAJ
> https://books.google.be/books?id=ii35GwAACAAJ
> where there is e.g. the following article :
> - L. Renou "Identity of the two Pata?jalis" pp. 368-373 
> and several other interesting articles
> 
> all these articles were also included, in a different place, within the Indian Historical Quarterly vol. 16  of 1940
> (but not in the fasc. 1 and 4 available through
> http://www.southasiaarchive.com/Content/sarf.120027 not free of charge)
> (from here Hathi Trust offers a limited search only for the IHQ)
> http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/000050121 
> Only the DLI exemplar seems therefore available :
> http://www.new1.dli.ernet.in
> http://www.new1.dli.ernet.in/scripts/FullindexDefault.htm?path1=/data2/upload/0055/431&first=1&last=959&barcode=4990010201279
> e.g. L. Renou "Identity of the two Pata?jalis" is in the IHQ volume at the pp. 586-591
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Christophe Vielle
> 
> ???????????????????
> Christophe Vielle
> Louvain-la-Neuve
> 
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From LubinT at wlu.edu  Sun Feb  1 22:49:01 2015
From: LubinT at wlu.edu (Lubin, Tim)
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 15 22:49:01 +0000
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Louis_de_la_Vall=C3=A9e_Poussin_Memorial_Volume_=E2=89=A0_IHQ_16,_1940?=
In-Reply-To: <58F8D328-30EE-4B3E-8AF4-7E792BADA1A5@uclouvain.be>
Message-ID: <D0F41748.149A6%lubint@wlu.edu>

Now available here:
https://archive.org/details/Law.1940.LaValleePoussinMemVol

Timothy Lubin
Professor of Religion and Adjunct Professor of Law
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, Virginia 24450

http://home.wlu.edu/~lubint
http://wlu.academia.edu/TimothyLubin
https://twitter.com/TimothyLubin
?

From: Christophe Vielle <christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be<mailto:christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be>>
Date: Sunday, February 1, 2015 at 6:40 AM
To: Indology <indology at list.indology.info<mailto:indology at list.indology.info>>
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Louis de la Vall?e Poussin Memorial Volume ? IHQ 16, 1940

Dear List,

since apparently the exemplar of the University of Virginia ( https://books.google.be/books?id=XN4NAAAAYAAJ ) is not downloadable even from the USA (what I hoped, because from here it is only poorly searchable), I finally found the needed volume... on the DLI again and under the title
"louis de law valle poussin memorial volume" (sic, a mix of Narendra Nath LAW/LA Vall?e Poussin?)
http://www.new1.dli.ernet.in/scripts/FullindexDefault.htm?path1=/data3/upload/0081/344&first=1&last=500&barcode=99999990226444
(the front-cover, if there was one, is apparently missing)
I attach the table of contents (the whole volume deserves to be uploaded to Archives.org<http://Archives.org> ; sorry for being myself unable to do that and make combined .pdf with the DLI stuff)
Thank you to all who kindly have tried to help,
Best wishes,
Christophe


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From caf57 at cam.ac.uk  Mon Feb  2 11:32:50 2015
From: caf57 at cam.ac.uk (C.A. Formigatti)
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 15 11:32:50 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Tibetan Translations of Indian Texts
In-Reply-To: <mailman.66.1422723617.20734.indology_list.indology.info@list.indology.info>
Message-ID: <567ee36d1148407c07f4ce3d9d958e6f@cam.ac.uk>

Dear James,

I don't know if somebody before me already suggested the following 
sources?something which is very likely. If yes, sorry for posting it. 
However, if not, you might want to have a look at them:

1) Indo-Tibetica 2,2: Rin c'en Bzan Po e la rinascita del Buddhismo nel 
Tibet intorno al mille.

(View availability)
Author(s): 	Tucci, G.
Published: 	Roma, 1933.

On pp. 40-49 it contains a list of translations by Rin chen bzang po, 
and on the following pages a couple of information about some of the 
Pandits who worked with him. I believe there is an English translation 
of this work.


2) Catalogue du fonds tib?tain de la Biblioth?que nationale / par P. 
Cordier.

Acad?mie des inscriptions et belles-lettres, Paris.
Institut de France, Paris. Fondation Debrousse.
Published: 	Paris : Imprimerie nationale, E. Leroux, 1915.


The second and third volumes are downloadable at Gallica 
(http://gallica.bnf.fr/Search?ArianeWireIndex=index&p=1&lang=EN&q=Cordier%2C+Palmyr+%281871-1914%29.+Catalogue+du+fonds+tib%C3%A9tain+de+la+Biblioth%C3%A8que+nationale&x=0&y=0)

Catalogue du fonds tib?tain de la Biblioth?que nationale / par P. 
Cordier. Partie 2, Index du Bstan-?gyur (Tib?tain 108-179).

Catalogue du fonds tib?tain de la Biblioth?que nationale / par P. 
Cordier. Partie 3, Index du Bstan-?gyur (Tib?tain 180-332).


I hope these two sources will prove helpful.

Best wishes,

Camillo Formigatti





From psdmccartney at gmail.com  Mon Feb  2 17:37:30 2015
From: psdmccartney at gmail.com (patrick mccartney)
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 15 18:37:30 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] navarasam
Message-ID: <CAEzwJrCsRzPr0ae=i4FQL0UX-DgL9gnZEV3iQQD-ZbTDg_7X=w@mail.gmail.com>

Dear List,

Is someone able to help me locate the first mention of the term 'navarasam'
and the argument that developed surrounding this concept as it was debated
between the 6th to 10th centuries?

Any help in clarifying this is greatly appreciated.




All the best,

Patrick McCartney

PhD Candidate
School of Culture, History & Language
College of the Asia-Pacific
The Australian National University
Canberra, Australia, 0200


Skype - psdmccartney

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From drdhaval2785 at gmail.com  Mon Feb  2 17:51:23 2015
From: drdhaval2785 at gmail.com (dhaval patel)
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 15 23:21:23 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Call for papers - Computational Linguistics in Indology
Message-ID: <CADSGPzUrcUwgwoSCYEsk34zTHbv8RWKz3zVnRcxhDJCeLPcmaQ@mail.gmail.com>

Respected scholars,
the field of computational linguistics has seen quite a bit of activity in
recent days. To publish the outcome of such research, we intend to publish
an *e-journal* namely Journal of Computational Linguistics in Indology on
quarterly basis.

*Mode of review* -  double blind peer reviewed.

*Submission to* -
Dear friends, you are cordially invited to send your articles related to
Computational Linguistics in Indology to jclijournal at gmail.com.

*Timeframe*-
The deadline for submission  -          15th March 2015.
Intimation of acceptance of papers -  15th April 2015.
Publication of first issue                -   15th May 2015.

*Instructions* -
Submission can be done in docx file and PDF file for evaluation.
Final version should be made in docx for ease of manipulation.
By submitting an article, you agree to do peer review of articles submitted
by others.

Please spread the announcement to your peers who might be interested in
such pursuit.


-- 
Dr. Dhaval Patel, I.A.S
District Development Officer, Rajkot
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From drdhaval2785 at gmail.com  Mon Feb  2 18:28:46 2015
From: drdhaval2785 at gmail.com (dhaval patel)
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 15 23:58:46 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Docx to Latex conversion
Message-ID: <CADSGPzVjCTLTA8trorr5-FeR5ykkTFn7UJ=URiQA_8usr8u5mw@mail.gmail.com>

Respected all,
I spent three sleepless nights to identify the free and efficient converter
from Docx to latex format.

After the experiments, I settled on writer2latex.
With some minor manual editing, the tex file worked beautifully.

Just sending the video link in case someone has had the same pitiable
plight as mine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7l7XMrXa2k


-- 
Dr. Dhaval Patel, I.A.S
District Development Officer, Rajkot
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From wujastyk at gmail.com  Mon Feb  2 19:37:33 2015
From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 15 20:37:33 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Docx to Latex conversion
In-Reply-To: <CADSGPzVjCTLTA8trorr5-FeR5ykkTFn7UJ=URiQA_8usr8u5mw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKdt-CcJhEmGZjnM5r2v_3uux3BGnmpCJpaFYM9ch83TLg8ukg@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Dr Patel, you should have asked here in INDOLOGY, and slept better!  A
lot of us use write2latex (as built-in with LibreOffice).

Best,
DW

--
Dr Dominik Wujastyk
Department of South Asia, Tibetan and Buddhist Studies
<http://stb.univie.ac.at>,
University of Vienna,
Spitalgasse 2-4, Courtyard 2, Entrance 2.1
1090 Vienna, Austria
and
Adjunct Professor,
Division of Health and Humanities,
St. John's Research Institute, <http://www.sjri.res.in/> Bangalore, India.
Project <http://www.istb.univie.ac.at/caraka/> | home page
<http://univie.academia.edu/DominikWujastyk> | HSSA
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On 2 February 2015 at 19:28, dhaval patel <drdhaval2785 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Respected all,
> I spent three sleepless nights to identify the free and efficient
> converter from Docx to latex format.
>
> After the experiments, I settled on writer2latex.
> With some minor manual editing, the tex file worked beautifully.
>
> Just sending the video link in case someone has had the same pitiable
> plight as mine.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7l7XMrXa2k
>
>
> --
> Dr. Dhaval Patel, I.A.S
> District Development Officer, Rajkot
> www.sanskritworld.in
>
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From christoph.emmrich at utoronto.ca  Mon Feb  2 20:15:28 2015
From: christoph.emmrich at utoronto.ca (christoph.emmrich at utoronto.ca)
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 15 15:15:28 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Toronto Sanderson symposium: updated link
Message-ID: <20150202151528.ohpzp8vjsw40cskk@webmail.utoronto.ca>

Dear colleagues,

Allow me to let you know that the link to the program of the upcoming  
University of Toronto symposium in honor of Alexis Sanderson just  
changed. The updated link is:

http://www.sareligionuoft.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/SandersonSymposium.pdf

Apologies for the inconvenience.

With warm regards,
Christoph

----

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Associate Professor, Buddhist Studies
Chair, Numata Program UofT/McMaster
University of Toronto

http://www.religion.utoronto.ca/people/faculty/christoph-emmrich/
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From dipak.d2004 at gmail.com  Tue Feb  3 03:38:02 2015
From: dipak.d2004 at gmail.com (Dipak Bhattacharya)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 15 09:08:02 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] navarasam
In-Reply-To: <CAEzwJrCsRzPr0ae=i4FQL0UX-DgL9gnZEV3iQQD-ZbTDg_7X=w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABEB9qLdr=B4q34u7hnYEYAQbaVveNWdE+OjRm_WPU0Bsyn+0w@mail.gmail.com>

Long ago late Prof. V. Raghavan wrote a book on the ninth rasa. The name
escapes me.
Best
DB

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 11:07 PM, patrick mccartney <psdmccartney at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear List,
>
> Is someone able to help me locate the first mention of the term
> 'navarasam' and the argument that developed surrounding this concept as it
> was debated between the 6th to 10th centuries?
>
> Any help in clarifying this is greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Patrick McCartney
>
> PhD Candidate
> School of Culture, History & Language
> College of the Asia-Pacific
> The Australian National University
> Canberra, Australia, 0200
>
>
> Skype - psdmccartney
>
> Australia:  +61 487 398   354
> Germany: +49 157 5469 4045
>
>
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>
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From harshadehejia at hotmail.com  Tue Feb  3 03:44:30 2015
From: harshadehejia at hotmail.com (Harsha Dehejia)
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 15 22:44:30 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] navarasam
In-Reply-To: <CABEB9qLdr=B4q34u7hnYEYAQbaVveNWdE+OjRm_WPU0Bsyn+0w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU179-W339D6848B41EB7322B08DEA03D0@phx.gbl>

Friends:
The name of the book is The number of Rasas by Raghavan published by Adyar Library.
Regards,
Harsha



Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 09:08:02 +0530
From: dipak.d2004 at gmail.com
To: psdmccartney at gmail.com
CC: indology at list.indology.info
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] navarasam

Long ago late Prof. V. Raghavan wrote a book on the ninth rasa. The name escapes me.
Best
DB

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 11:07 PM, patrick mccartney <psdmccartney at gmail.com> wrote:
Dear List,
Is someone able to help me locate the first mention of the term 'navarasam' and the argument that developed surrounding this concept as it was debated between the 6th to 10th centuries? 
Any help in clarifying this is greatly appreciated. 


All the best,

Patrick McCartney 

PhD Candidate 
School of Culture, History & Language
College of the Asia-Pacific
The Australian National University
Canberra, Australia, 0200


Skype - psdmccartney
Australia:  +61 487 398   354Germany: +49 157 5469 4045
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From drdhaval2785 at gmail.com  Tue Feb  3 04:26:04 2015
From: drdhaval2785 at gmail.com (dhaval patel)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 15 09:56:04 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Stri pratyaya
In-Reply-To: <CADSGPzWSGPaO5bETDsp0CM_7qf5AFJBobvm6XE+A_9mYeWHq1Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADSGPzVRvHWS3oo-dwdmLUWh5jMF1DjnZFUfYPkcaWWALfTGzA@mail.gmail.com>

Respected scholars,
I am looking for any published material, book, article etc. on
strIpratyayas in Sanskrit grammar other than traditional commentaries on
Siddhantakaumudi and Ashtadhyayi.
I would be grateful if any link or PDF is provided for the same.

Thanks


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From drdhaval2785 at gmail.com  Tue Feb  3 07:45:12 2015
From: drdhaval2785 at gmail.com (dhaval patel)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 15 13:15:12 +0530
Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtJTkRPTE9HWV0Je+CkreCkvuCksOCkpOClgOCkr+CkteCkv+CkpuCljeCkteCkpOCljeCkquCksOCkv+Ckt+CkpOCljX0gUmU6IENhbGwgZm9yIHBhcGVycyAtIENvbXB1dGF0aW9uYWwgTGluZ3Vpc3RpY3MgaW4gSW5kb2xvZ3k=?=
In-Reply-To: <e2e901f3-66f9-4999-98ea-08a5fe617074@googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <CADSGPzVa5oByqPj2McPqv4uNJi1PFJ-FsZXzg2D2meyZNwgWaQ@mail.gmail.com>

Respected Nityanand Misra,

1,2 - We have computational linguistics symposia around once in two-three
years. Even in such symposia, it is difficult for most of the researchers
to present papers personally. Therefore, I thought that we should have one
dedicated quarterly journal for Computational linguistics in Indology, so
that their research outcomes can be documented and disseminated properly.
So, this is the first trial in that direction. Therefore, the version is
e-journal rather than conventional printed journals.

As of now, the publisher and editor - Dr. Dhaval Patel
As and when new authors, scholars etc join, the editorial board can be
decided by referendum.

3 - I intend to apply for ISSN soon, but the requisite for that is at least
5-6 original articles even in case of  online journal. Once
we get that critical level of papers, applying for ISSN makes sense. So as
of now, the journal doesn't have ISSN number. In most probability if we get
submissions from scholars, we will get provisional ISSN before 1st issue.



On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Nityanand Misra <nmisra at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dr Patel
>
> 1. Who are the publishers of the e-journal?
> 2. Who are the editors?
> 3. Does the journal have an ISSN number?
>
> Thanks, Nityanand
>
>
> On Monday, February 2, 2015 at 11:21:26 PM UTC+5:30, dhaval wrote:
>>
>> Respected scholars,
>> the field of computational linguistics has seen quite a bit of activity
>> in recent days. To publish the outcome of such research, we intend to
>> publish an *e-journal* namely Journal of Computational Linguistics in
>> Indology on quarterly basis.
>>
>> *Mode of review* -  double blind peer reviewed.
>>
>> *Submission to* -
>> Dear friends, you are cordially invited to send your articles related to
>> Computational Linguistics in Indology to jclij... at gmail.com.
>>
>> *Timeframe*-
>> The deadline for submission  -          15th March 2015.
>> Intimation of acceptance of papers -  15th April 2015.
>> Publication of first issue                -   15th May 2015.
>>
>> *Instructions* -
>> Submission can be done in docx file and PDF file for evaluation.
>> Final version should be made in docx for ease of manipulation.
>> By submitting an article, you agree to do peer review of articles
>> submitted by others.
>>
>> Please spread the announcement to your peers who might be interested in
>> such pursuit.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Dhaval Patel, I.A.S
>> District Development Officer, Rajkot
>> www.sanskritworld.in
>>
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From wujastyk at gmail.com  Tue Feb  3 09:07:02 2015
From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 15 10:07:02 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Call for book submissions on Indian medicine
Message-ID: <CAKdt-CdidRLLszwWfmjJaYxnG7uYzZYbO9sAYaA8P1xw39CPdw@mail.gmail.com>

The book series *Indian Medical Tradition*, published by Motilal
Banarsidass, produces important contemporary scholarship on South Asian
Medicine.  The editors are myself (U. Vienna) and Prof. K. G. Zysk (U.
Copenhagen).  The series includes original monographs, such as Das's *The
Origin of the Life of a Human Being*, and reprints of classic works such as
Zimmermann's *The Jungle and the Aroma of Meats* and Zysk's *Asceticism and
Healing: Medicine in the Buddhist Monastery*.  Eleven volumes have appeared
in the series thus far.  The books are published in Delhi and distributed
worldwide.  Authors receive royalties and hardback and paperback editions
are produced, according to sales demand.

Authors with book suggestions that might fit the series are invited to
submit their proposals to Prof. Zysk or myself, or the Motilal Banarsidass
office in Delhi.

Sincerely,
Dominik Wujastyk

Some volumes: URL
<http://mlbd.com/SearchBook.aspx?search_text=indian+medical+tradition&btnSearch=Go>

--
Dr Dominik Wujastyk
Department of South Asia, Tibetan and Buddhist Studies
<http://stb.univie.ac.at>,
University of Vienna,
Spitalgasse 2-4, Courtyard 2, Entrance 2.1
1090 Vienna, Austria
and
Adjunct Professor,
Division of Health and Humanities,
St. John's Research Institute, <http://www.sjri.res.in/> Bangalore, India.
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From rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk  Tue Feb  3 11:24:50 2015
From: rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk (Rohana Seneviratne)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 15 11:24:50 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] The Vrttidipika of Krsnabhatta/ Jayakrsna Maunin
Message-ID: <263AADEB1C61774CB059F93BD3A6940B148435@MBX06.ad.oak.ox.ac.uk>

Dear List,


I will be very much thankful if I could receive a PDF of the following work. It is not available in the usual places we find such texts from.

http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/39669621


Thank you very much in advance.


Best Wishes,
Rohana
------------------------------------------------
Rohana Seneviratne
DPhil Student in Sanskrit
The Oriental Institute
University of Oxford
Pusey Lane, Oxford
OX1 2LE
United Kingdom

Email: rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk
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From pwyzlic at uni-bonn.de  Tue Feb  3 11:50:31 2015
From: pwyzlic at uni-bonn.de (Peter Wyzlic)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 15 12:50:31 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] The Vrttidipika of Krsnabhatta/ Jayakrsna Maunin
In-Reply-To: <263AADEB1C61774CB059F93BD3A6940B148435@MBX06.ad.oak.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <54D0B607.1010908@uni-bonn.de>

Am 03.02.2015 um 12:24 schrieb Rohana Seneviratne:
> I will be very much thankful if I could receive a PDF of the following 
> work. It is not available in the usual places we find such texts from.
>
> http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/39669621
>
>
Sorry, I don't have a digitized edition at hand. But I know that there 
is also a later edition in the Rajasthan Oriental Research Institute series:

?r?k???abha??a
Mauni ?r?k???abha??a viracit? V?ttid?pik?. Samp.: Puru?ottama ?arm? 
Caturved?. Jayapura: R?jasth?na Pur?tattv?nve?a?a Mandira, 1956. - 
kha-?a, 44, 12 p. (R?jasth?na Pur?tana Grantham?l?; 7)

maybe this broadens the search.

All the best
Peter Wyzlic

-- 
Institut f?r Orient- und Asienwissenschaften
Bibliothek
Universit?t Bonn
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From mmdesh at umich.edu  Tue Feb  3 12:20:06 2015
From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 15 17:50:06 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] The Vrttidipika of Krsnabhatta/ Jayakrsna Maunin
In-Reply-To: <263AADEB1C61774CB059F93BD3A6940B148435@MBX06.ad.oak.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <CAB3-dzcB2yyq5=S6ftRiF6C+mg+a7wUQTmUX3dU1Sgt9OdCiTQ@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Rohana,

     I am almost certain I have a print copy of this work at home in Ann
Arbor.  I am currently in Pune and will return to Ann Arbor by mid-March.
If you are unable to obtain a soft-copy by then, do contact me in March.
If you do receive a soft-copy, do pass it on to me.  With best wishes,

Madhav Deshpande

On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Rohana Seneviratne <
rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk> wrote:

>  Dear List,
>
>
>  I will be very much thankful if I could receive a PDF of the following
> work. It is not available in the usual places we find such texts from.
>
>  http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/39669621
>
>
>  Thank you very much in advance.
>
>
>   Best Wishes,
> Rohana
> ------------------------------------------------
> Rohana Seneviratne
> DPhil Student in Sanskrit
> The Oriental Institute
> University of Oxford
> Pusey Lane, Oxford
> OX1 2LE
> United Kingdom
>
> Email: rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk
> Web: http://users.ox.ac.uk/~pemb3753/
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
>



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Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
The University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48104-1608, USA


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From gruenen at sub.uni-goettingen.de  Tue Feb  3 14:33:55 2015
From: gruenen at sub.uni-goettingen.de (Gruenendahl, Reinhold)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 15 14:33:55 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] GRETIL update #455
Message-ID: <044C4CE033BD474EBE2ACACE8E4B1D94B997C9F8@UM-excdag-a02.um.gwdg.de>


GRETIL is pleased to be able to report the following addition(s) to its collection:


Gunaprabha: Vinayasutra: entries revised:
http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm#VinaySu


Pacittiya, Patidesaniya, Sekkhiya, Bhikkhunivibhanga: PTS/Dhammakaya edition, annotated and plain text:
http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm#Pacit


Pravrajyavastu: link to related e-book added:
http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm#Vinv01



__________________________________________________________________________

"GRETIL is intended as a cumulative register of the numerous download sites for electronic texts in Indian languages." (from the 2001 "mission statement")

GRETIL - Goettingen Register of Electronic Texts in Indian Languages:

http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm





From audrey.truschke at gmail.com  Tue Feb  3 17:01:49 2015
From: audrey.truschke at gmail.com (Audrey Truschke)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 15 09:01:49 -0800
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Polyvocal Hindustan at Stanford, March 6-7, 2015
Message-ID: <CAKq175pqbaJcwtZ4LSNP3w2yRpQFeV6jgtMvo4KL_LUVpZ0gQQ@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Colleagues,

Polyvocal Hindustan: Literatures, Languages, and Publics will be held at
Stanford University March 6-7, 2015. All are welcome. See the full
conference line-up and register (for free) here:

http://southasia.stanford.edu/Polyvocal_Hindustan

A brief description of the conference:
The early modern period in India, roughly the 15th-18th centuries,
witnessed an explosion of textual production in vernacular languages
alongside the ongoing vibrancy of cosmopolitan traditions. These literary
trends were accompanied by a wide range of changes concerning readership
communities, circulation patterns, and social identities. This conference
focuses on some of the major literary developments during this dynamic
period and highlights fresh avenues of research for investigating
relationships between linguistic traditions and reading communities.

Audrey

Audrey Truschke
Mellon Postdoctoral Fellow
Department of Religious Studies
Stanford University
e- <audrey.truschke at gmail.com>mail <audrey.truschke at gmail.com> | website
<http://www.stanford.edu/~truschke/>


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From emstern at verizon.net  Wed Feb  4 02:23:52 2015
From: emstern at verizon.net (Elliot Stern)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 15 21:23:52 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] The Vrttidipika of Krsnabhatta/ Jayakrsna Maunin
In-Reply-To: <CAB3-dzcB2yyq5=S6ftRiF6C+mg+a7wUQTmUX3dU1Sgt9OdCiTQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4387289C-19AB-4102-BE63-A8ECA1C63F76@verizon.net>

I expect I can scan my copy of the Sarasvati Bhavan Texts edition tomorrow.


Elliot M. Stern
552 South 48th Street
Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029
United States of America
telephone: 215-747-6204
mobile: 267-240-8418
emstern at verizon.net

> On 03 Feb  2015, at 07:20, Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at UMICH.EDU> wrote:
> 
> Dear Rohana,
> 
>      I am almost certain I have a print copy of this work at home in Ann Arbor.  I am currently in Pune and will return to Ann Arbor by mid-March.  If you are unable to obtain a soft-copy by then, do contact me in March.  If you do receive a soft-copy, do pass it on to me.  With best wishes,
> 
> Madhav Deshpande
> 
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Rohana Seneviratne <rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk <mailto:rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk>> wrote:
> Dear List, 
> 
> 
> I will be very much thankful if I could receive a PDF of the following work. It is not available in the usual places we find such texts from. 
> 
> http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/39669621 <http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/39669621>
> 
> 
> Thank you very much in advance.
> 
> 
> Best Wishes,
> Rohana
> ------------------------------------------------
> Rohana Seneviratne
> DPhil Student in Sanskrit
> The Oriental Institute
> University of Oxford
> Pusey Lane, Oxford
> OX1 2LE
> United Kingdom
> 
> Email: rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk <mailto:rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk>
> Web: http://users.ox.ac.uk/~pemb3753/ <http://users.ox.ac.uk/~pemb3753/>
> _______________________________________________
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> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info <mailto:INDOLOGY at list.indology.info>
> http://listinfo.indology.info <http://listinfo.indology.info/>
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Madhav M. Deshpande
> Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
> Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
> 202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
> The University of Michigan
> Ann Arbor, MI 48104-1608, USA
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From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com  Wed Feb  4 04:30:49 2015
From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi)
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 15 10:00:49 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] navarasam
Message-ID: <CAJGj9eYta+n037NpgyTPje1NKtTT9Mh3QBVGzRgA_cw0hK6ssA@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, it is "Number of Rasas" by Prof. V.Raghavan.

The DLI details are :


number of rasas
<http://www.dli.ernet.in/cgi-bin/metainfo.cgi?&title1=number of
rasas&author1=raghavan, v.&subject1=hindi literature,
drama&year=1940&language1=english&pages=223&barcode=99999990837476&publisher1=the
adyar
library&vendor1=NONE&scanningcentre1=ignca&slocation1=NONE&sourcelib1=central
archaeological library,
asi&digitalpublicationdate1=0000-00-00&rights1=OUT_OF_COPYRIGHT&format1=tagged
image file format&url=/data10/data51/upload/0018/051 target=>.
99999990837476. 99999990837476. raghavan, v.. 1940. english. hindi
literature, drama. 223 pgs. The number of rasas
<http://www.dli.ernet.in/cgi-bin/metainfo.cgi?&title1=The number of
rasas&author1=V
RAGHAVAN&subject1=LITERATURE&year=1840&language1=sanskrit&pages=212&barcode=5990010098537&publisher1=THE
ADYAR LIBRARY ADYAR&vendor1=NONE&scanningcentre1=iiit,
allahabad&slocation1=NONE&sourcelib1=allahabad
university&digitalrepublisher1=Digital Library of
India&rights1=OUT_OF_COPYRIGHT&format1=TIFF&url=/rawdataupload/upload/0098/537
target=>. 5990010098537. 5990010098537. V RAGHAVAN. 1840. sanskrit.
LITERATURE. 212 pgs.

The Number of Rasas
<http://www.dli.ernet.in/cgi-bin/metainfo.cgi?&title1=The Number of
Rasas&author1=Raghavan,
V.&subject1=LITERATURE&year=1940&language1=sanskrit&pages=222&barcode=4990010022078&identifier1=VB
Librarian&publisher1=The Adyar Library,
Adyar&vendor1=NONE&scanningcentre1=C-DAC,
Kolkata&slocation1=NONE&sourcelib1=CENTRAL LIBRARY,
VISVA-BHARATI&scannerno1=0&digitalrepublisher1=Digital Library Of
India&digitalpublicationdate1=2009-10-09&rights1=In Public
Domain&format1=Tagged Image File Format&url=/data8/upload/0219/360 target=>.
4990010022078. 4990010022078. Raghavan, V.. 1940. sanskrit. LITERATURE. 222
pgs.



Best,



Nagaraj


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From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com  Wed Feb  4 04:49:13 2015
From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi)
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 15 10:19:13 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] navarasam
Message-ID: <CAJGj9eYL+nZnSxoYF+Vu4O1aRWLHJJYBV7+h-N4hvQWQHjY2qg@mail.gmail.com>

Bharata himself uses the word 'navarasa' in

eva? navaras? d???? n??yaj?airlak?a??nviat?? // BhN_6.82*5 //

Regards,

Nagaraj





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From franco at uni-leipzig.de  Wed Feb  4 07:04:43 2015
From: franco at uni-leipzig.de (Eli Franco)
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 15 08:04:43 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Characteristics of Fools
In-Reply-To: <CAJGj9eYta+n037NpgyTPje1NKtTT9Mh3QBVGzRgA_cw0hK6ssA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150204080443.Horde.NioLuXZNmszybhVtZ0Iu4A1@mail.uni-leipzig.de>


Dear friends and colleagues,
Would anyone be able to send me a scan of the following?

Murkhasataka. The Hundred Characteristics of Fools. Sanskrit
verses, with a translation by Janardana Hari Athalye. Ratnagiri, 1877.

With best wishes,
Eli Franco

-- 
Prof. Dr. Eli Franco
Institut f?r Indologie und Zentralasienwissenschaften
Schillerstr. 6
04109 Leipzig

Ph. +49 341 9737 121, 9737 120 (dept. office)
Fax +49 341 9737 148







From zysk at hum.ku.dk  Wed Feb  4 07:57:28 2015
From: zysk at hum.ku.dk (Kenneth Gregory Zysk)
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 15 07:57:28 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Characteristics of Fools
In-Reply-To: <20150204080443.Horde.NioLuXZNmszybhVtZ0Iu4A1@mail.uni-leipzig.de>
Message-ID: <D08C2A94323FEC4D8F5E930CABEF2FDD680C0925@EXMBX2.hum2005.hum.ku.dk>

I too would appreciate a copy of this, if someone could send it.
Best,
Ken

Kenneth Zysk, PhD, DPhil
Head of Indology
Department of Cross-Cultural and Regional Studies
University of Copenhagen
Karen Blixens Vej 4, Bygn. 10, 
DK-2300 Copenhagen S    Denmark
Ph:  +45 3532 8951			Email: zysk at hum.ku.dk


-----Original Message-----
From: INDOLOGY [mailto:indology-bounces at list.indology.info] On Behalf Of Eli Franco
Sent: 04 February 2015 08:05
To: indology at list.indology.info
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Characteristics of Fools


Dear friends and colleagues,
Would anyone be able to send me a scan of the following?

Murkhasataka. The Hundred Characteristics of Fools. Sanskrit verses, with a translation by Janardana Hari Athalye. Ratnagiri, 1877.

With best wishes,
Eli Franco

--
Prof. Dr. Eli Franco
Institut f?r Indologie und Zentralasienwissenschaften Schillerstr. 6
04109 Leipzig

Ph. +49 341 9737 121, 9737 120 (dept. office) Fax +49 341 9737 148



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From ssandahl at sympatico.ca  Wed Feb  4 08:08:28 2015
From: ssandahl at sympatico.ca (Stella Sandahl)
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 15 09:08:28 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Characteristics of Fools
In-Reply-To: <20150204080443.Horde.NioLuXZNmszybhVtZ0Iu4A1@mail.uni-leipzig.de>
Message-ID: <BLU436-SMTP157F65F3CF9743D267E19AFBF3A0@phx.gbl>

If possible, could I also get a copy?
Thanks!
Stella Sandahl

On 2015-02-04, at 8:04 AM, Eli Franco wrote:

> 
> Dear friends and colleagues,
> Would anyone be able to send me a scan of the following?
> 
> Murkhasataka. The Hundred Characteristics of Fools. Sanskrit
> verses, with a translation by Janardana Hari Athalye. Ratnagiri, 1877.
> 
> With best wishes,
> Eli Franco
> 
> -- 
> Prof. Dr. Eli Franco
> Institut f?r Indologie und Zentralasienwissenschaften
> Schillerstr. 6
> 04109 Leipzig
> 
> Ph. +49 341 9737 121, 9737 120 (dept. office)
> Fax +49 341 9737 148
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From psdmccartney at gmail.com  Wed Feb  4 09:10:02 2015
From: psdmccartney at gmail.com (patrick mccartney)
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 15 10:10:02 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] navarasam
In-Reply-To: <CAJGj9eYL+nZnSxoYF+Vu4O1aRWLHJJYBV7+h-N4hvQWQHjY2qg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEzwJrBpq8XG9RuK8UT0NNAk9akUv1JGj4nn5D5cFgMZ+XxR7A@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you to everyone who responded on and off the list to my request for
information regarding navarasa.



All the best,

Patrick McCartney

PhD Candidate
School of Culture, History & Language
College of the Asia-Pacific
The Australian National University
Canberra, Australia, 0200


Skype - psdmccartney

Australia:  +61 487 398   354
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   <https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=241756978&trk=nav_responsive_tab_profile>*
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   <https://anu-au.academia.edu/patrickmccartney> *

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On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 5:49 AM, Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Bharata himself uses the word 'navarasa' in
>
> eva? navaras? d???? n??yaj?airlak?a??nviat?? // BhN_6.82*5 //
>
> Regards,
>
> Nagaraj
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Prof.Nagaraj Paturi
> Hyderabad-500044
>
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From vjroebuck at btinternet.com  Wed Feb  4 09:34:06 2015
From: vjroebuck at btinternet.com (Valerie ROEBUCK)
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 15 09:34:06 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Characteristics of Fools
In-Reply-To: <BLU436-SMTP157F65F3CF9743D267E19AFBF3A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1423042446.37722.YahooMailNeo@web87806.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>

Me, too, please!

Thanks -

Valerie J Roebuck
Manchester, UK



>________________________________
> From: Stella Sandahl <ssandahl at sympatico.ca>
>To: Eli Franco <franco at uni-leipzig.de> 
>Cc: indology at list.indology.info 
>Sent: Wednesday, 4 February 2015, 8:08
>Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Characteristics of Fools
> 
>
>
>If possible, could I also get a copy?
>Thanks!
>Stella Sandahl
>
>
>On 2015-02-04, at 8:04 AM, Eli Franco wrote:
>
>
>>Dear friends and colleagues,
>>Would anyone be able to send me a scan of the following?
>>
>>Murkhasataka. The Hundred Characteristics of Fools. Sanskrit
>>verses, with a translation by Janardana Hari Athalye. Ratnagiri, 1877.
>>
>>With best wishes,
>>Eli Franco
>>
>>-- 
>>Prof. Dr. Eli Franco
>>Institut f?r Indologie und Zentralasienwissenschaften
>>Schillerstr. 6
>>04109 Leipzig
>>
>>Ph. +49 341 9737 121, 9737 120 (dept. office)
>>Fax +49 341 9737 148
>>
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>INDOLOGY mailing list
>>INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>>http://listinfo.indology.info
>
>--
>Stella Sandahl
>ssandahl at sympatico.ca
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From wujastyk at gmail.com  Wed Feb  4 11:03:25 2015
From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 15 12:03:25 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Fwd: Auto-discard notification
In-Reply-To: <mailman.2404.1423043511.30620.indology_list.indology.info@list.indology.info>
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Ca?n anyone help Dr Remmer with this query?  Replies directly to Dr Remma,
please.

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From: "Remmer, Ulla" <Ulla.Remmer at oeaw.ac.at>
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 09:51:41 +0000
Subject: citation of article in The Modern Review
 Dear contributors to Indology list,

If anybody could complete the following citation of an article from 1936?s
edition of The Modern Review (Calcutta) I should be very grateful:

Dutt, Bhupendra Lal. 1936. ?The Indian National Congress ? The story of its
foundation?. *The Modern Review*  (Calcutta) 59.

I would need:
- the page numbers of the complete article in this copy
- verification that on p. 82 Munshi Madholal is named as chairman of the
reception committee of the National Congress session of 1905 in Benares.
- Is the article?s author Bhupendra Lal Dutt identical with the
revolutionary and sociologist Bhupendranath Datta (4 September 1880 ? 25
December 1961)?

There is a scan of this edition online (
http://www.scribd.com/doc/35993772/The-Modern-Review-1936-January) but the
relevant 100 pages are left out, unfortunately.

Thank you,
Ulla Remmer

 __________________________________________



Dr. Ulla Remmer
Phonogrammarchiv ? institute for audiovisual research and documentation
Austrian Academy of Sciences
Liebiggasse 5, A-1010 Vienna, Austria
Tel.: +43 1 4277-29618
Fax: +43 1 4277-9296
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From pathak at american.edu  Wed Feb  4 14:39:50 2015
From: pathak at american.edu (Shubha Pathak)
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 15 09:39:50 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] navarasam
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From yogacara at gmail.com  Wed Feb  4 18:33:29 2015
From: yogacara at gmail.com (Dan Lusthaus)
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 15 13:33:29 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Characteristics of Fools
In-Reply-To: <1423042446.37722.YahooMailNeo@web87806.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>
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I'd love a copy as well.
Dan Lusthaus
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Valerie ROEBUCK 
  To: indology at list.indology.info 
  Cc: vjroebuck at icloud.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 4:34 AM
  Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Characteristics of Fools


  Me, too, please!


  Thanks -


  Valerie J Roebuck
  Manchester, UK



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    If possible, could I also get a copy?
    Thanks!
    Stella Sandahl


    On 2015-02-04, at 8:04 AM, Eli Franco wrote:



      Dear friends and colleagues,
      Would anyone be able to send me a scan of the following?

      Murkhasataka. The Hundred Characteristics of Fools. Sanskrit
      verses, with a translation by Janardana Hari Athalye. Ratnagiri, 1877.

      With best wishes,
      Eli Franco

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From hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com  Wed Feb  4 19:33:11 2015
From: hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com (Harry Spier)
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 15 14:33:11 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Article from journal IndoAsiatica 2/2004 needed
Message-ID: <CAPW7aQFOSUbKzNGHkpjADRkavHnTu0HnaTJbeKw=aAE9XWrAHQ@mail.gmail.com>

Dear list members,

Is it possible for any list members to send me a scan of the article:
"The Guru-Gita or "Song of the Master" as Incorporated in the Guru-caritra
of Sarasvati Gangadhar" by Antonio Rigopoulos. It is in the journal
IndoAsiatica 2/2004.

Thanks,
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From wujastyk at gmail.com  Wed Feb  4 21:58:20 2015
From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 15 22:58:20 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Characteristics of Fools
In-Reply-To: <2A0EF87720924FBF8448403694C29D8B@Dan>
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There's a copy in the British Library, listed in the printed catalogue of
Marathi books.
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From ashok.aklujkar at gmail.com  Thu Feb  5 13:30:52 2015
From: ashok.aklujkar at gmail.com (Ashok Aklujkar)
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 15 05:30:52 -0800
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Characteristics of Fools
In-Reply-To: <20150204080443.Horde.NioLuXZNmszybhVtZ0Iu4A1@mail.uni-leipzig.de>
Message-ID: <8D772552-1569-45BB-8186-AC0E624D39EB@gmail.com>

For a few general observations, please see the latter half of this email.

Dominik Wujastyk: "There's a copy in the British Library, listed in the printed catalogue of Marathi books."

Someone proficient in Telugu should also check if the text in the following is essentially the same or significantly different: 

Mu?rkha s?atakam [title not printed as a compound word]

Author:	S?ri? Na Ca Ra?ma?nuja?ca?ryulu
Publisher:	Haidara?ba?du : Pratulaku, Cakravarti Pracuran?alu, 1988.
Edition/Format:	 Book : TeluguView all editions and formats
Database:	WorldCat

The same source lists the book as available at:

1. University of California, NRLF 
Northern Regional Library Facility
Richmond, CA 94804 United States

2. UC Berkeley Libraries 
Berkeley, CA 94720 United States

3. University of Wisconsin - Madison, General Library System 
Madison, WI 53706 United States

4. University of Chicago Library 
Chicago, IL 60637 United States

5. University of Texas Libraries 
University of Texas Libraries
Austin, TX 78713 United States

6. HathiTrust Digital Library 
Ann Arbor, MI 48109 United States

A similar request to those who are proficient in Kannada:
Sat?i?ka mu?rkha s?ataka.

Author:	Timmappa Lin?gappa Hegad?e
Publisher:	Ud?upi : S?ri? Madhvasiddha?nta Grantha?laya, 1925.
Edition/Format:	 Book : Kannada

Such texts, collecting the ways in which men can act foolishly, are  probably to be distinguished from the texts containing the stories of foolishness themselves. The Daasa-bodha of Sant Ram(a)da(a)s in Marathi, for example, has a Muurkha-lak.sa.na chapter, but it does not narrate any story that would serve as a background for a particular lak.s.a.na. 

The stories are sometimes summarized in short expressions, and the expressions alone are mentioned; e.g., pa.dhata-muurkha (in Marathi) would stand for an account of a learned (or superficially learned) fool, who takes the words of a text or speech literally (or too literally). 

Such summations become possible because the stories about fools are a part of Indian folklore (as they are of the folklores of several other countries). Most adults of the community know them. 

Occasionally, the stories are nasty and spread prejudice. 

(The shortest fool story I have heard in Canada is: "When the brightest man from New Foundland moved to Toronto, the average i.q. of both the places dropped drastically." I hope there are no newfies on this forum; if there are, they must be an exception by the very logic of the context; they will understand that, as a person very much given to historical accuracy, I cannot change what I heard. Also, since I am not a Torontonian (I hail from Khelm), I have nothing personal to gain in sharing the story. Nor am I known for telling or fabricating Sardarji jokes.)

The foolishness theme sometimes intersects with the themes of other stories populating Indian folklore; e.g., it is not uncommon to find in the stories a brahmin fool or a son-in-law fool. (Compare the depiction of a rich person or his son as a fool In western stories and t.v. comedies.) If the festival of Holi is only a day in some parts of India for dragging down the respectables of the society from their pedestal, the fool stories can be a 365-day festival toward a similar purpose. 

The genre of fools' stories is scattered over texts otherwise showing different pre-occupations; e.g., while the story of the three or four brahmins who resurrect a lion/tiger only to be killed by that lion/tiger is  found in the Pa;nca-tantra and Hitopade;sa recensions, it and similar stories are also found in various recasts of the  B.rhat-kathaa. The principal aim of these latter may not be to teach wisdom. They may not even contain the word muurkha or its synonyms. 


a.a.



> On Feb 3, 2015, at 11:04 PM, Eli Franco <franco at uni-leipzig.de <mailto:franco at uni-leipzig.de>> wrote:
> 
> Would anyone be able to send me a scan of the following?
> 
> Murkhasataka. The Hundred Characteristics of Fools. Sanskrit
> verses, with a translation by Janardana Hari Athalye. Ratnagiri, 1877.



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From christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be  Thu Feb  5 14:47:57 2015
From: christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be (Christophe Vielle)
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 15 15:47:57 +0100
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_Rudra=E1=B9=ADa=E2=80=99s_K=C4=81vy=C4=81la=E1=B9=83k=C4=81ra_in_Adyar_Library_Bulletin_62,_1998,_pp._99-107?=
Message-ID: <9F2E1483-91B6-40A0-A500-8D756F753978@uclouvain.be>

Dear List,

I would like to confront the interpretation of C. Rajendran
?Catura?ga movements described in Rudra?a?s K?vy?la?k?ra?, Adyar Library Bulletin 62 (1998), pp. 99-107 
with the explanation of the same passage (*) by H. Jacobi,   
?Ueber zwei ?ltere Erw?hnungen des Schachspiels in der Sanskrit-Litteratur?,  Zeitschrift der Deutschen Morgenl?ndischen Gesellschaft 50 (1896), pp. 227-233 (cf. Kleine Schriften, ?d. Bernhard K?lver,Wiesbaden : Steiner, 1970, t. 1, pp. 540-546)
http://menadoc.bibliothek.uni-halle.de/dmg/periodical/titleinfo/62900

However, even C. Rajendran himself is unable to provide me with a (.pdf) copy of  his article. 
Would it be possible that someone has a scan of this Adyar Library Bulletin article (that I should also forward to his author).
Thank you in advance,

Best wishes,

Christophe Vielle

(*) See the 1886 ed. Kavya Mala Series vol. 2
http://ia700702.us.archive.org/0/items/Kavya_Mala_Series_Of_Nirnaya_Sagar_Press/KavyamalaVol_02-KavyalankaraOfRudrata1886.pdf
???????????????????
Christophe Vielle
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From heike.oberlin at uni-tuebingen.de  Thu Feb  5 15:40:58 2015
From: heike.oberlin at uni-tuebingen.de (PD Dr. Heike Oberlin)
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 15 16:40:58 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Contesting Images of Futures of India - international	Workshop at Tuebingen, 13/2/2015
Message-ID: <A4F1D365-DB44-4A90-9C93-4BAAB0A88386@uni-tuebingen.de>

? ? ?? <>
Contesting Images of Futures of India <>
 
February 13, 2015
Neue Aula, Geschwister-Scholl-Platz, Gro?er Senat, University of Tuebingen, Germany
 
 
This one day international seminar will be presented in three sessions to evaluate and analyze different projections about the futures of India, imagined or predicted, during the last two centuries. Some of the topics covered will be: (i) Contemporary India in the science fiction of last two centuries, (ii) Future India in the contemporary science fiction, (iii) Images of futures in the literary and political works of last two centuries; and (iv) The notion of changing time-use-pattern and digital future of Indian history and literature.
 
9:00 - 9:45
Opening Felicitations
Vice-Chancellor Prof. Dr. Bernd Engler, Tuebingen
H.E. M. Sevala Naik, Consul General of India, Munich
Prof. Dr. J?rgen Leonhardt, Dean, Faculty of Humanities, Tuebingen
Divyaraj Amiya, M. Phil., Department of Indology, Tuebingen
 
9:45 - 10:30
Keynote Speaker 
Dr. Anil Menon, Eminent Science Fiction Author, USA 
The Seventh Horse of the Sun: The Dawn of Indian Science Fiction (19th and 20th Century)
 
10:30 - 10:45 Tea Break
 
10:45 - 12:15
Session I: Contemporary Science Fiction in India and the Question of Changing-Time-Use-Pattern
Dr. Vandana Singh, Framingham State University, USA
Transgressive Possibilities in Indian Science Fiction: A Writer?s Perspective
 
Divyaraj Amiya, M. Phil., Department of Indology, Tuebingen and University of Zuerich, Switzerland
A Video Report on Time Prosperity and Time Poverty in Delhi (20 minutes) and Some Projections for Coming Decades
 
12:15 - 13:45 Lunch Break
 

 

 
13:45 - 15:15
Session II: Imaginations of Future in Indian Politics of 19th and 20th Century India
Dr. Mirella Lingorska, Department of Indology, Tuebingen and University of Zuerich, Switzerland
Images of Future in Mahatma Gandhi?s Works and the Reality of India Today
 
Dr. Ajay Gudavarthy, Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi, India
Ambedkar and Jotiba Phule in the Neo-Liberal Times: Prefigurations of a Post-Caste Society
 
15:15 - 15:30 Tea Break
 
15:30 ? 17:00
Session III: The Digital Future of Indian Literature Production and Images of Futures in Indian Literature
Dr. Elena Mucciarelli, Department of Indology, Tuebingen
Epigraphia Carnatica Digitization Project: Medieval Inscriptions and New Media
 
Rainer Kimmig, M.A., Department of Indology, Tuebingen and University of Heidelberg
The Birth of the Mother from an Opium Dream. Bankimchandra?s Vision of the Nation as 
Charismatic Gemeinschaft
 
17:00 ? 17:15 
Concluding Remarks by PD Dr. Heike Oberlin, Department of Indology, Tuebingen
 
 
 
For more information contact the Department of Indology, Tuebingen, at 
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From rajam at earthlink.net  Thu Feb  5 21:58:03 2015
From: rajam at earthlink.net (rajam)
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 15 13:58:03 -0800
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Characteristics of Fools
In-Reply-To: <8D772552-1569-45BB-8186-AC0E624D39EB@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <22862CDE-2AEC-4202-994B-70695B708390@earthlink.net>

Interesting observation by Ashok Aklujkar, and thanks.

So ? may I take it that the word ?Mu?rkha? or ?muurkha? to render the meaning ?fool??

In Tamil we have a saying ? ?m?rkka?um mutalaiyum ko??atu vi??? (?m?rkka? and crocodile won?t let their catch go?) implying the stubbornness in both species (man and animal). 

So, ?m?rkka?? is a nominal form derived from  ?Mu?rkha? or ?muurkha????

Regards,
Rajam


> On Feb 5, 2015, at 5:30 AM, Ashok Aklujkar <ashok.aklujkar at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> For a few general observations, please see the latter half of this email.
> 
> Dominik Wujastyk: "There's a copy in the British Library, listed in the printed catalogue of Marathi books."
> 
> Someone proficient in Telugu should also check if the text in the following is essentially the same or significantly different: 
> 
> Mu?rkha s?atakam [title not printed as a compound word]
> 
> Author:	S?ri? Na Ca Ra?ma?nuja?ca?ryulu
> Publisher:	Haidara?ba?du : Pratulaku, Cakravarti Pracuran?alu, 1988.
> Edition/Format:	<icon-bks.gif> Book : TeluguView all editions and formats
> Database:	WorldCat
> 
> The same source lists the book as available at:
> 
> 1. University of California, NRLF 
> Northern Regional Library Facility
> Richmond, CA 94804 United States
> 
> 2. UC Berkeley Libraries 
> Berkeley, CA 94720 United States
> 
> 3. University of Wisconsin - Madison, General Library System 
> Madison, WI 53706 United States
> 
> 4. University of Chicago Library 
> Chicago, IL 60637 United States
> 
> 5. University of Texas Libraries 
> University of Texas Libraries
> Austin, TX 78713 United States
> 
> 6. HathiTrust Digital Library 
> Ann Arbor, MI 48109 United States
> 
> A similar request to those who are proficient in Kannada:
> Sat?i?ka mu?rkha s?ataka.
> 
> Author:	Timmappa Lin?gappa Hegad?e
> Publisher:	Ud?upi : S?ri? Madhvasiddha?nta Grantha?laya, 1925.
> Edition/Format:	<icon-bks.gif> Book : Kannada
> 
> Such texts, collecting the ways in which men can act foolishly, are  probably to be distinguished from the texts containing the stories of foolishness themselves. The Daasa-bodha of Sant Ram(a)da(a)s in Marathi, for example, has a Muurkha-lak.sa.na chapter, but it does not narrate any story that would serve as a background for a particular lak.s.a.na. 
> 
> The stories are sometimes summarized in short expressions, and the expressions alone are mentioned; e.g., pa.dhata-muurkha (in Marathi) would stand for an account of a learned (or superficially learned) fool, who takes the words of a text or speech literally (or too literally). 
> 
> Such summations become possible because the stories about fools are a part of Indian folklore (as they are of the folklores of several other countries). Most adults of the community know them. 
> 
> Occasionally, the stories are nasty and spread prejudice. 
> 
> (The shortest fool story I have heard in Canada is: "When the brightest man from New Foundland moved to Toronto, the average i.q. of both the places dropped drastically." I hope there are no newfies on this forum; if there are, they must be an exception by the very logic of the context; they will understand that, as a person very much given to historical accuracy, I cannot change what I heard. Also, since I am not a Torontonian (I hail from Khelm), I have nothing personal to gain in sharing the story. Nor am I known for telling or fabricating Sardarji jokes.)
> 
> The foolishness theme sometimes intersects with the themes of other stories populating Indian folklore; e.g., it is not uncommon to find in the stories a brahmin fool or a son-in-law fool. (Compare the depiction of a rich person or his son as a fool In western stories and t.v. comedies.) If the festival of Holi is only a day in some parts of India for dragging down the respectables of the society from their pedestal, the fool stories can be a 365-day festival toward a similar purpose. 
> 
> The genre of fools' stories is scattered over texts otherwise showing different pre-occupations; e.g., while the story of the three or four brahmins who resurrect a lion/tiger only to be killed by that lion/tiger is  found in the Pa;nca-tantra and Hitopade;sa recensions, it and similar stories are also found in various recasts of the  B.rhat-kathaa. The principal aim of these latter may not be to teach wisdom. They may not even contain the word muurkha or its synonyms. 
> 
> 
> a.a.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 3, 2015, at 11:04 PM, Eli Franco <franco at uni-leipzig.de <mailto:franco at uni-leipzig.de>> wrote:
>> 
>> Would anyone be able to send me a scan of the following?
>> 
>> Murkhasataka. The Hundred Characteristics of Fools. Sanskrit
>> verses, with a translation by Janardana Hari Athalye. Ratnagiri, 1877.
> 
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From emstern at verizon.net  Fri Feb  6 01:29:04 2015
From: emstern at verizon.net (Elliot Stern)
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 15 20:29:04 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] The Vrttidipika of Krsnabhatta/ Jayakrsna Maunin
In-Reply-To: <263AADEB1C61774CB059F93BD3A6940B148435@MBX06.ad.oak.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <2AF2912D-4688-4876-819F-F59A8E0F1BCC@verizon.net>

I just uploaded my scan of v?ttid?pik? to archive.org <http://archive.org/>. I copied this URL:  https://ia902601.us.archive.org/32/items/Vrttidipika/v?ttid?pik?.pdf <https://ia902601.us.archive.org/32/items/Vrttidipika/v%E1%B9%9Bttid%C4%ABpik%C4%81.pdf>.

If you notice any problems (pages that cut off the text), please reply to my my email address offsets. I can scan those pages again and upload a corrected document. This is my first ever upload to archive.org <http://archive.org/>.


Elliot M. Stern
552 South 48th Street
Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029
United States of America
telephone: 215-747-6204
mobile: 267-240-8418
emstern at verizon.net

> On 03 Feb  2015, at 06:24, Rohana Seneviratne <rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> Dear List, 
> 
> 
> I will be very much thankful if I could receive a PDF of the following work. It is not available in the usual places we find such texts from. 
> 
> http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/39669621 <http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/39669621>
> 
> 
> Thank you very much in advance.
> 
> 
> Best Wishes,
> Rohana
> ------------------------------------------------
> Rohana Seneviratne
> DPhil Student in Sanskrit
> The Oriental Institute
> University of Oxford
> Pusey Lane, Oxford
> OX1 2LE
> United Kingdom
> 
> Email: rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk <mailto:rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk>
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From emstern at verizon.net  Fri Feb  6 01:39:34 2015
From: emstern at verizon.net (Elliot Stern)
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 15 20:39:34 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] The Vrttidipika of Krsnabhatta/ Jayakrsna Maunin
In-Reply-To: <2AF2912D-4688-4876-819F-F59A8E0F1BCC@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <6D19FC50-B544-47CE-9ED4-CF0899490EEB@verizon.net>

The URL I copied does not seem to work, but a search of vrttidipika should bring up my scan.

Elliot M. Stern
552 South 48th Street
Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029
United States of America
telephone: 215-747-6204
mobile: 267-240-8418
emstern at verizon.net

> On 05 Feb  2015, at 20:29, Elliot Stern <emstern at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> I just uploaded my scan of v?ttid?pik? to archive.org <http://archive.org/>. I copied this URL:  https://ia902601.us.archive.org/32/items/Vrttidipika/v?ttid?pik?.pdf <https://ia902601.us.archive.org/32/items/Vrttidipika/v%E1%B9%9Bttid%C4%ABpik%C4%81.pdf>.
> 
> If you notice any problems (pages that cut off the text), please reply to my my email address offsets. I can scan those pages again and upload a corrected document. This is my first ever upload to archive.org <http://archive.org/>.
> 
> 
> Elliot M. Stern
> 552 South 48th Street
> Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029
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> telephone: 215-747-6204
> mobile: 267-240-8418
> emstern at verizon.net <mailto:emstern at verizon.net>
>> On 03 Feb  2015, at 06:24, Rohana Seneviratne <rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk <mailto:rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk>> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear List, 
>> 
>> 
>> I will be very much thankful if I could receive a PDF of the following work. It is not available in the usual places we find such texts from. 
>> 
>> http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/39669621 <http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/39669621>
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you very much in advance.
>> 
>> 
>> Best Wishes,
>> Rohana
>> ------------------------------------------------
>> Rohana Seneviratne
>> DPhil Student in Sanskrit
>> The Oriental Institute
>> University of Oxford
>> Pusey Lane, Oxford
>> OX1 2LE
>> United Kingdom
>> 
>> Email: rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk <mailto:rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk>
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From mmdesh at umich.edu  Fri Feb  6 03:04:48 2015
From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande)
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 15 08:34:48 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] The Vrttidipika of Krsnabhatta/ Jayakrsna Maunin
In-Reply-To: <2AF2912D-4688-4876-819F-F59A8E0F1BCC@verizon.net>
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Dear Elliot,

     Could you please check the archive.org download link.  It is not
working, at least for me.  Best,

Madhav

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 6:59 AM, Elliot Stern <emstern at verizon.net> wrote:

> I just uploaded my scan of v?ttid?pik? to archive.org. I copied this URL:
>  https://ia902601.us.archive.org/32/items/Vrttidipika/v?ttid?pik?.pdf.
>
> If you notice any problems (pages that cut off the text), please reply to
> my my email address offsets. I can scan those pages again and upload a
> corrected document. This is my first ever upload to archive.org.
>
>
> Elliot M. Stern
> 552 South 48th Street
> Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029
> United States of America
> telephone: 215-747-6204
> mobile: 267-240-8418
> emstern at verizon.net
>
> On 03 Feb  2015, at 06:24, Rohana Seneviratne <
> rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> Dear List,
>
>
> I will be very much thankful if I could receive a PDF of the following
> work. It is not available in the usual places we find such texts from.
>
> http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/39669621
>
>
> Thank you very much in advance.
>
>
> Best Wishes,
> Rohana
> ------------------------------------------------
> Rohana Seneviratne
> DPhil Student in Sanskrit
> The Oriental Institute
> University of Oxford
> Pusey Lane, Oxford
> OX1 2LE
> United Kingdom
>
> Email: rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk
> Web: http://users.ox.ac.uk/~pemb3753/
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From mmdesh at umich.edu  Fri Feb  6 03:11:15 2015
From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande)
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 15 08:41:15 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] The Vrttidipika of Krsnabhatta/ Jayakrsna Maunin
In-Reply-To: <CAB3-dzcaUaOZNLeiDmG+6DEOO5q6wY0_EOjF4qD_U_mGB_0U=A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAB3-dzfFOkVGbm90F1i+fheC+s8t3XcZ=JCXb8mawHcjqP8HOg@mail.gmail.com>

Here is the link that did work, when I searched archive.org independently:

https://archive.org/details/Vrttidipika

Madhav

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 8:34 AM, Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu> wrote:

> Dear Elliot,
>
>      Could you please check the archive.org download link.  It is not
> working, at least for me.  Best,
>
> Madhav
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 6:59 AM, Elliot Stern <emstern at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> I just uploaded my scan of v?ttid?pik? to archive.org. I copied this
>> URL:
>> https://ia902601.us.archive.org/32/items/Vrttidipika/v?ttid?pik?.pdf.
>>
>> If you notice any problems (pages that cut off the text), please reply to
>> my my email address offsets. I can scan those pages again and upload a
>> corrected document. This is my first ever upload to archive.org.
>>
>>
>> Elliot M. Stern
>> 552 South 48th Street
>> Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029
>> United States of America
>> telephone: 215-747-6204
>> mobile: 267-240-8418
>> emstern at verizon.net
>>
>> On 03 Feb  2015, at 06:24, Rohana Seneviratne <
>> rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Dear List,
>>
>>
>> I will be very much thankful if I could receive a PDF of the following
>> work. It is not available in the usual places we find such texts from.
>>
>> http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/39669621
>>
>>
>> Thank you very much in advance.
>>
>>
>> Best Wishes,
>> Rohana
>> ------------------------------------------------
>> Rohana Seneviratne
>> DPhil Student in Sanskrit
>> The Oriental Institute
>> University of Oxford
>> Pusey Lane, Oxford
>> OX1 2LE
>> United Kingdom
>>
>> Email: rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk
>> Web: http://users.ox.ac.uk/~pemb3753/
>> _______________________________________________
>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>> http://listinfo.indology.info
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>> http://listinfo.indology.info
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Madhav M. Deshpande
> Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
> Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
> 202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
> The University of Michigan
> Ann Arbor, MI 48104-1608, USA
>



-- 
Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
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From palaniappa at aol.com  Fri Feb  6 03:52:35 2015
From: palaniappa at aol.com (palaniappa at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 15 22:52:35 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Characteristics of Fools
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Message-ID: <14b5d0491eb-5fd4-5f05@webstg-m05.mail.aol.com>


It is interesting that according to Tamil Lexicon, m?rkka? also means 'cobra' or n?ga. 


????????? m?rkka?
, n. < m?rkha. 1. Ignorant person; fool; ?????. ?????????? ??? ??? ??????????? (???????. 51, 1). 2. Angry person; ?????????????. ???????????? ???????? ???? ???? (????. 301, 6). (????. ??.) 3. Obstinate man; ??????????????????. ??????????? ????????? ????????? ????????????? ????? ???????? ????????? ???? (????????. 71). 4. Arrogant person; ?????????. 5. Mean person; ????????. (????.) 6. Cobra; ???????????. (????.) 7. Tree-snake. See ???????????????. (W.)


So the Tamil proverb may refer to a n?ga and a crocodile!  


Regards,
Palaniappan



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From: rajam <rajam at earthlink.net>
To: Ashok Aklujkar <ashok.aklujkar at gmail.com>
Cc: Indology List <indology at list.indology.info>
Sent: Thu, Feb 5, 2015 3:58 pm
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Characteristics of Fools


 
Interesting observation by Ashok Aklujkar, and thanks. 
 
  
 
 
So ? may I take it that the word ?Mu?rkha? or ?muurkha? to render the meaning ?fool?? 
 
  
 
 
In Tamil we have a saying ? ?m?rkka?um mutalaiyum ko??atu vi??? (?m?rkka? and crocodile won?t let their catch go?) implying the stubbornness in both species (man and animal).  
 
  
 
 
So, ?m?rkka?? is a nominal form derived from  ?Mu?rkha? or ?muurkha???? 
 
  
 
 
Regards, 
 
Rajam 
 
  
 
 
 
  
   
On Feb 5, 2015, at 5:30 AM, Ashok Aklujkar <    ashok.aklujkar at gmail.com> wrote:   
   
   
    
For a few general observations, please see the latter half of this email.     
      
     
     
Dominik Wujastyk: "There's a copy in the British Library, listed in the printed catalogue of Marathi books."      
       
      
      
Someone proficient in Telugu should also check if the text in the following is essentially the same or significantly different:        
       
Mu?rkha s?atakam [title not printed as a compound word]       
       
Author:        S?ri? Na Ca Ra?ma?nuja?ca?ryulu       
Publisher:        Haidara?ba?du : Pratulaku, Cakravarti Pracuran?alu, 1988.       
Edition/Format:               <icon-bks.gif> Book : TeluguView all editions and formats       
Database:        WorldCat       
       
The same source lists the book as available at:       
       
1. University of California, NRLF        
Northern Regional Library Facility       
Richmond, CA 94804 United States       
       
2. UC Berkeley Libraries        
Berkeley, CA 94720 United States       
       
3. University of Wisconsin - Madison, General Library System        
Madison, WI 53706 United States       
       
4. University of Chicago Library        
Chicago, IL 60637 United States       
       
5. University of Texas Libraries        
University of Texas Libraries       
Austin, TX 78713 United States       
       
6. HathiTrust Digital Library        
Ann Arbor, MI 48109 United States       
       
A similar request to those who are proficient in Kannada:       
Sat?i?ka mu?rkha s?ataka.       
       
Author:        Timmappa Lin?gappa Hegad?e       
Publisher:        Ud?upi : S?ri? Madhvasiddha?nta Grantha?laya, 1925.       
Edition/Format:               <icon-bks.gif> Book : Kannada       
       
       
Such texts, collecting the ways in which men can act foolishly, are  probably to be distinguished from the texts containing the stories of foolishness themselves. The Daasa-bodha of Sant Ram(a)da(a)s in Marathi, for example, has a Muurkha-lak.sa.na chapter, but it does not narrate any story that would serve as a background for a particular lak.s.a.na.        
       
        
       
       
The stories are sometimes summarized in short expressions, and the expressions alone are mentioned; e.g., pa.dhata-muurkha (in Marathi) would stand for an account of a learned (or superficially learned) fool, who takes the words of a text or speech literally (or too literally).        
       
        
       
       
Such summations become possible because the stories about fools are a part of Indian folklore (as they are of the folklores of several other countries). Most adults of the community know them.        
       
        
         
        
        
Occasionally, the stories are nasty and spread prejudice.          
          
         
         
(The shortest fool story I have heard in Canada is: "When the brightest man from New Foundland moved to Toronto, the average i.q. of both the places dropped drastically." I hope there are no newfies on this forum; if there are, they must be an exception by the very logic of the context; they will understand that, as a person very much given to historical accuracy, I cannot change what I heard. Also, since I am not a Torontonian (I hail from Khelm), I have nothing personal to gain in sharing the story. Nor am I known for telling or fabricating Sardarji jokes.)         
         
          
          
           
The foolishness theme sometimes intersects with the themes of other stories populating Indian folklore; e.g., it is not uncommon to find in the stories a brahmin fool or a son-in-law fool. (Compare the depiction of a rich person or his son as a fool In western stories and t.v. comedies.) If the festival of Holi is only a day in some parts of India for dragging down the respectables of the society from their pedestal, the fool stories can be a 365-day festival toward a similar purpose.            
           
            
           
           
The genre of fools' stories is scattered over texts otherwise showing different pre-occupations; e.g., while the story of the three or four brahmins who resurrect a lion/tiger only to be killed by that lion/tiger is  found in the Pa;nca-tantra and Hitopade;sa recensions, it and similar stories are also found in various recasts of the  B.rhat-kathaa. The principal aim of these latter may not be to teach wisdom. They may not even contain the word muurkha or its synonyms.             
            
             
            
            
             
              
             
             
a.a.             
             
              
             
             
              
             
             
              
              
On Feb 3, 2015, at 11:04 PM, Eli Franco <               franco at uni-leipzig.de> wrote:               
               
Would anyone be able to send me a scan of the following?               
               
Murkhasataka. The Hundred Characteristics of Fools. Sanskrit               
verses, with a translation by Janardana Hari Athalye. Ratnagiri, 1877.               
              
              
             
            
           
          
         
        
       
      
     
    
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From emstern at verizon.net  Fri Feb  6 04:03:23 2015
From: emstern at verizon.net (Elliot Stern)
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 15 23:03:23 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] The Vrttidipika of Krsnabhatta/ Jayakrsna Maunin
In-Reply-To: <CAB3-dzfFOkVGbm90F1i+fheC+s8t3XcZ=JCXb8mawHcjqP8HOg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <13FA3CC1-A4BA-4E2D-9187-8705881A104C@verizon.net>

Yes, Madhav, you are right. The link I initially sent up is not correct. I thought I posted a corrective message, but I see no record of having sent that message now. My apologies to all. This was my first archive.org <http://archive.org/> upload. 

Elliot M. Stern
552 South 48th Street
Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029
United States of America
telephone: 215-747-6204
mobile: 267-240-8418
emstern at verizon.net

> On 05 Feb  2015, at 22:11, Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu> wrote:
> 
> Here is the link that did work, when I searched archive.org <http://archive.org/> independently:
> 
> https://archive.org/details/Vrttidipika <https://archive.org/details/Vrttidipika>
> 
> Madhav
> 
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 8:34 AM, Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu <mailto:mmdesh at umich.edu>> wrote:
> Dear Elliot,
> 
>      Could you please check the archive.org <http://archive.org/> download link.  It is not working, at least for me.  Best,
> 
> Madhav
> 
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 6:59 AM, Elliot Stern <emstern at verizon.net <mailto:emstern at verizon.net>> wrote:
> I just uploaded my scan of v?ttid?pik? to archive.org <http://archive.org/>. I copied this URL:  https://ia902601.us.archive.org/32/items/Vrttidipika/v?ttid?pik?.pdf <https://ia902601.us.archive.org/32/items/Vrttidipika/v%E1%B9%9Bttid%C4%ABpik%C4%81.pdf>.
> 
> If you notice any problems (pages that cut off the text), please reply to my my email address offsets. I can scan those pages again and upload a corrected document. This is my first ever upload to archive.org <http://archive.org/>.
> 
> 
> Elliot M. Stern
> 552 South 48th Street
> Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029
> United States of America
> telephone: 215-747-6204
> mobile: 267-240-8418
> emstern at verizon.net <mailto:emstern at verizon.net>
>> On 03 Feb  2015, at 06:24, Rohana Seneviratne <rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk <mailto:rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk>> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear List, 
>> 
>> 
>> I will be very much thankful if I could receive a PDF of the following work. It is not available in the usual places we find such texts from. 
>> 
>> http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/39669621 <http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/39669621>
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you very much in advance.
>> 
>> 
>> Best Wishes,
>> Rohana
>> ------------------------------------------------
>> Rohana Seneviratne
>> DPhil Student in Sanskrit
>> The Oriental Institute
>> University of Oxford
>> Pusey Lane, Oxford
>> OX1 2LE
>> United Kingdom
>> 
>> Email: rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk <mailto:rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk>
>> Web: http://users.ox.ac.uk/~pemb3753/ <http://users.ox.ac.uk/~pemb3753/>_______________________________________________
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> 
> 
> -- 
> Madhav M. Deshpande
> Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
> Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
> 202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
> The University of Michigan
> Ann Arbor, MI 48104-1608, USA
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Madhav M. Deshpande
> Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
> Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
> 202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
> The University of Michigan
> Ann Arbor, MI 48104-1608, USA



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From rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk  Fri Feb  6 10:07:30 2015
From: rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk (Rohana Seneviratne)
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 15 10:07:30 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] The Vrttidipika of Krsnabhatta/ Jayakrsna Maunin
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I'm very much thankful to Prof. Elliot M. Stern for the beautiful scan of the Vrttidipika this time. My thanks are also due to Profs. Madhav Deshpande and Peter Wyzlic.


Best Wishes,
Rohana
------------------------------------------------
Rohana Seneviratne
DPhil Student in Sanskrit
The Oriental Institute
Faculty of Oriental Studies
University of Oxford
Pusey Lane, Oxford
OX1 2LE
United Kingdom

Email: rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk
Web: http://users.ox.ac.uk/~pemb3753/
________________________________
From: Elliot Stern [emstern at verizon.net]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 4:03 AM
To: Madhav Deshpande
Cc: Rohana Seneviratne; Indology Indology listserve
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] The Vrttidipika of Krsnabhatta/ Jayakrsna Maunin

Yes, Madhav, you are right. The link I initially sent up is not correct. I thought I posted a corrective message, but I see no record of having sent that message now. My apologies to all. This was my first archive.org<http://archive.org> upload.

Elliot M. Stern
552 South 48th Street
Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029
United States of America
telephone: 215-747-6204
mobile: 267-240-8418
emstern at verizon.net<mailto:emstern at verizon.net>

On 05 Feb  2015, at 22:11, Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu<mailto:mmdesh at umich.edu>> wrote:

Here is the link that did work, when I searched archive.org<http://archive.org/> independently:

https://archive.org/details/Vrttidipika

Madhav

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 8:34 AM, Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu<mailto:mmdesh at umich.edu>> wrote:
Dear Elliot,

     Could you please check the archive.org<http://archive.org/> download link.  It is not working, at least for me.  Best,

Madhav

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 6:59 AM, Elliot Stern <emstern at verizon.net<mailto:emstern at verizon.net>> wrote:
I just uploaded my scan of v?ttid?pik? to archive.org<http://archive.org/>. I copied this URL:  https://ia902601.us.archive.org/32/items/Vrttidipika/v?ttid?pik?.pdf<https://ia902601.us.archive.org/32/items/Vrttidipika/v%E1%B9%9Bttid%C4%ABpik%C4%81.pdf>.

If you notice any problems (pages that cut off the text), please reply to my my email address offsets. I can scan those pages again and upload a corrected document. This is my first ever upload to archive.org<http://archive.org/>.


Elliot M. Stern
552 South 48th Street
Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029
United States of America
telephone: 215-747-6204
mobile: 267-240-8418
emstern at verizon.net<mailto:emstern at verizon.net>

On 03 Feb  2015, at 06:24, Rohana Seneviratne <rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk<mailto:rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk>> wrote:

Dear List,


I will be very much thankful if I could receive a PDF of the following work. It is not available in the usual places we find such texts from.

http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/39669621


Thank you very much in advance.


Best Wishes,
Rohana
------------------------------------------------
Rohana Seneviratne
DPhil Student in Sanskrit
The Oriental Institute
University of Oxford
Pusey Lane, Oxford
OX1 2LE
United Kingdom

Email: rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk<mailto:rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk>
Web: http://users.ox.ac.uk/~pemb3753/
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Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
The University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48104-1608, USA



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Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
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From philipp.a.maas at gmail.com  Fri Feb  6 15:37:19 2015
From: philipp.a.maas at gmail.com (Philipp Maas)
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 15 16:37:19 +0100
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_The_word_k=C4=81rik=C4=81_in_the_title_of_works?=
Message-ID: <CAOuG4CaOks782QFbfRzs4PbqvsZ0T=mm3LTO9Jny0DY4T8JWOQ@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Members of Indology,

I remember having read an article by Albrecht Wezler in which the author
argues cogently that the word *k?rik?*, unlike the word *s?tra*, was not
used in pre-modern times to designate a whole work but only to refer to a
single stanzs as a constituent of a work. Accordingly, the title S??khyak?rik?
for the seventysomething stanzas composed by ??varak???a would be a modern
invention.



With regard to this, I have two requests: Would somebody please be so kind
as to remind me of the bibliographical details of Wezler?s article?
Moreover, I would appreciate any information going beyond Wezler?s article
on where and by whom the expression "S??khyak?rik?" was used first as the
title of ??varak???a?s work.



With many thanks in advance,



Philipp Maas


-- 
Dr. Philipp A. Maas
Universit?tsassistent
Institut f?r S?dasien-, Tibet- und Buddhismuskunde
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From mkapstei at uchicago.edu  Fri Feb  6 16:02:59 2015
From: mkapstei at uchicago.edu (Matthew Kapstein)
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 15 16:02:59 +0000
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_The_word_k=C4=81rik=C4=81_in_the_title_of_works?=
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Dear Philipp,

I do not have the reference to Wezler, and I do not know about the particular case
of the S??khyak?rik?, but it is quite clear from the Tibetan transcriptions of the Sanskrit
titles of works in which k?rik? is used that this usage is not "modern". Here are the instances
from the Tibetan canons, as retrieved by searching the University of Vienna's useful site on
Kanjur studies:
https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/index.php

all best,
Matthew

--KANJUR--




rKTS-K947<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif2.php?id=947>      saddharmasm?tyupasth?nak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif2.php?id=947>


--TANJUR--

rKTS-T46<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=46>        gu??paryantastotrapadak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=46>

rKTS-T61<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=61>        k?lap?j?mah?catu?kak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=61>

rKTS-T585<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=585>      tattvak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=585>

rKTS-T1518<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=1518>    ?rya-anantamukhanirh?radh?ra??vy?kh?nak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=1518>

rKTS-T1827<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=1827>    [?ryavajravid?ra??karam??uk?rikarmavidhi.]<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=1827>

rKTS-T3131<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3131>    abhisamay?la?k?ra-n?ma-praj??p?ramitopade?a??strak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3131>

rKTS-T3133<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3133>    ?ryapa?cavi??atis?hasrik?praj??p?ramitopade?a??str?bhisamay?la?k?rak?rik?v?rttik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3133>

rKTS-T3141<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3141>    abhisamay?la?k?rak?rik?praj??p?ramitopade?a??stra??k? prasphu?apad?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3141>

rKTS-T3146<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3146>    abhisamay?la?k?rak?rik?v?tti ?uddhamat?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3146>

rKTS-T3154<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3154>    ?ryapraj??p?ramit?sa?grahak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3154>

rKTS-T3155<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3155>    ?ryapraj??p?ramit?sa?grahak?rik?vivara?a<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3155>

rKTS-T3169<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3169>    praj??-n?ma-m?lamadhyamakak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3169>

rKTS-T3170<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3170>    yukti?a??ik?k?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3170>

rKTS-T3172<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3172>    ??nyat?saptatik?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3172>

rKTS-T3173<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3173>    vigrahavy?vartan?k?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3173>

rKTS-T3181<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3181>    prat?tyasamutp?dah?dayak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3181>

rKTS-T3191<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3191>    catu??ataka??stra-n?ma-k?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3191>

rKTS-T3193<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3193>    hastav?laprakara?ak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3193>

rKTS-T3200<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3200>    madhyamakah?dayak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3200>

rKTS-T3214<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3214>    tarkamudgarak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3214>

rKTS-T3229<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3229>    madhyamak?la?k?rak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3229>

rKTS-T3239<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3239>    nir?k?rak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3239>

rKTS-T3244<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3244>    sugatamatavibha?gak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3244>

rKTS-T3280<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3280>    ?ik??samuccayak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3280>

rKTS-T3325<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3325>    ?rya??listambakak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3325>

rKTS-T3359<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3359>    mah?y?nas?tr?la?k?rak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3359>

rKTS-T3362<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3362>    dharmadharmat?vibha?gak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3362>

rKTS-T3394<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3394>    tri??ik?k?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3394>

rKTS-T3395<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3395>    vi??atik?k?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3395>

rKTS-T3427<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3427>    abhidharmako?ak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3427>

rKTS-T3429<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3429>    abhidharmako?a??strak?rik?bh??ya<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3429>

rKTS-T3461<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3461>    vinayak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3461>

rKTS-T3462<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3462>    ?ryam?lasarv?stiv?di?r?ma?erak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3462>

rKTS-T3463<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3463>    ?ryam?lasarv?stiv?di?r?ma?erak?rik?v?ttiprabh?vat?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3463>

rKTS-T3464<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3464>    tri?atak?rik?vy?khy?na<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3464>

rKTS-T3466<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3466>    ?rama?apa?c??atk?rik?pad?bhismara?a<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3466>

rKTS-T3469<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3469>    nid?napudgalasa?grahak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3469>

rKTS-T3472<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3472>    vinayapra?nak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3472>

rKTS-T3517<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3517>    saddharmasm?tyupasth?nak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3517>

rKTS-T3547<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3547>    pram??av?rttikak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3547>

rKTS-T3579<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3579>    sarvaj?asiddhik?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3579>

rKTS-T3580<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3580>    b?hy?rthasiddhik?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3580>

rKTS-T3581<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3581>    ?rutipar?k??k?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3581>

rKTS-T3582<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3582>    any?pohavic?rak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3582>

rKTS-T3583<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3583>    ??varabha?gak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3583>

rKTS-T3601<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3601>    tattvasa?grahak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3601>

rKTS-T3609<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3609>    vibhaktik?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3609>

rKTS-T3628<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3628>    pi??anivartananirde?ak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3628>

rKTS-T3905<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3905>    madhyamak?vat?rak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3905>

rKTS-T3915<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3915>    sugatamatavibha?gak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3915>

rKTS-T3917<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3917>    prat?tyasamutp?dah?dayak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3917>

rKTS-T3934<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3934>    vajracchedik?y?? praj??p?ramit?y?vy?khy?nopanibandhanak?rik?<https://www.istb.univie.ac.at/kanjur/xml3/xml/verif3.php?id=3934>


Matthew Kapstein
Directeur d'?tudes,
Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes

Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies,
The University of Chicago
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From arlogriffiths at hotmail.com  Fri Feb  6 16:11:19 2015
From: arlogriffiths at hotmail.com (Arlo Griffiths)
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 15 16:11:19 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Midnapore plates
Message-ID: <DUB114-W17491F68410309833CCC72A5380@phx.gbl>

Dear colleagues,

Would anyone be able to furnish me a pdf of the following?


  Majumdar, R.C. 1945. ?Two Copper-Plates of ?a???ka from Midnapore.? Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society of Bengal, Letters 11 (1): 1?9.
  

I have checked the amazing Biodiversity Heritage Library (http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org), which has many volumes published by the (R)ASB available in digital form, but apparently not this one.

Thanks.

Arlo Griffiths
EFEO
 		 	   		  


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From philipp.a.maas at gmail.com  Fri Feb  6 16:40:41 2015
From: philipp.a.maas at gmail.com (Philipp Maas)
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 15 17:40:41 +0100
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]=09The_word_k=C4=81rik=C4=81_in_the_title_of_works?=
Message-ID: <CAOuG4CaWFz8gGermkeYrOKQy_Okg6qBo0n1TaUM=byZEy=djew@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Members of Indology,

Roland Steiner was so kind as to refer me to Wezlers article
<http://menadoc.bibliothek.uni-halle.de/dmg/periodical/titleinfo/150856>
?Zu der Frage des Strebens nach ?u?erster K?rze? in den ?rautas?tras.
*Zeitschrift
der Deutschen Morgenl?ndischen Gesellschaft *151 (2001), p. 351-366, p.
360, note 45, which actually is the article I had in mind.



Wezler observes (on the basis of limited evidence) that colophons and other
Sanskrit sources usually use the plural k?rik?-s when referring to
versified works, and he suspects that the usage of the singular became
common only due to modern Indological catalogueing and the preparation of
title lists.



With regard to the S??khyak?rik?-s Wezler notes that the title provided in
the work itself is S??khyasaptati, and that the commentaries, as far as
Wezler could see (which coincides with my own observations) never refer to
the work with the title S??khyak?rik?.



With many thanks to all who responded on- and off-list.



Philipp


-- 
Dr. Philipp A. Maas
Universit?tsassistent
Institut f?r S?dasien-, Tibet- und Buddhismuskunde
Universit?t Wien
Spitalgasse 2-4, Hof 2, Eingang 2.1
A-1090 Wien
?sterreich
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From LubinT at wlu.edu  Fri Feb  6 17:01:41 2015
From: LubinT at wlu.edu (Lubin, Tim)
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 15 17:01:41 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Midnapore plates
In-Reply-To: <DUB114-W17491F68410309833CCC72A5380@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <D0FA5D17.14D6A%lubint@wlu.edu>

Midnapore CP article attached, Arlo.

Best,

Tim

Timothy Lubin
Professor of Religion and Adjunct Professor of Law
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, Virginia 24450

http://home.wlu.edu/~lubint
http://wlu.academia.edu/TimothyLubin
https://twitter.com/TimothyLubin
?

From: Arlo Griffiths <arlogriffiths at hotmail.com<mailto:arlogriffiths at hotmail.com>>
Date: Friday, February 6, 2015 at 11:11 AM
To: INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info<mailto:indology at list.indology.info>>
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Midnapore plates

Dear colleagues,

Would anyone be able to furnish me a pdf of the following?

Majumdar, R.C. 1945. ?Two Copper-Plates of ?a???ka from Midnapore.? Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society of Bengal, Letters 11 (1): 1?9.

I have checked the amazing Biodiversity Heritage Library (http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org), which has many volumes published by the (R)ASB available in digital form, but apparently not this one.

Thanks.

Arlo Griffiths
EFEO


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From palaniappa at aol.com  Fri Feb  6 17:37:16 2015
From: palaniappa at aol.com (palaniappa at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 15 12:37:16 -0500
Subject: ARE 559 of 1962-63
Message-ID: <14b5ff7955c-60c4-763c@webstg-m02.mail.aol.com>

Dear Indologists,


If anybody has the transcript of ARE 559 of 1962-63, I would appreciate getting a copy. As far as I know, it is not published by ASI. In the absence of the transcript, if anybody knows of the text being included in any publication, I would appreciate getting a PDF of that.


Thanks in advance


Regards,
S. Palaniappan






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From LubinT at wlu.edu  Fri Feb  6 19:30:04 2015
From: LubinT at wlu.edu (Lubin, Tim)
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 15 19:30:04 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] ARE 559 of 1962-63
In-Reply-To: <14b5ff7955c-60c4-763c@webstg-m02.mail.aol.com>
Message-ID: <D0FA7FDD.14E21%lubint@wlu.edu>

Does the attached help?
Best,
Tim

Timothy Lubin
Professor of Religion and Adjunct Professor of Law
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, Virginia 24450

http://home.wlu.edu/~lubint
http://wlu.academia.edu/TimothyLubin
https://twitter.com/TimothyLubin

From: <palaniappa at aol.com<mailto:palaniappa at aol.com>>
Date: Friday, February 6, 2015 at 12:37 PM
To: <indology at list.indology.info<mailto:indology at list.indology.info>>
Subject: ARE 559 of 1962-63

Dear Indologists,

If anybody has the transcript of ARE 559 of 1962-63, I would appreciate getting a copy. As far as I know, it is not published by ASI. In the absence of the transcript, if anybody knows of the text being included in any publication, I would appreciate getting a PDF of that.

Thanks in advance

Regards,
S. Palaniappan




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From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com  Fri Feb  6 19:35:50 2015
From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi)
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 15 01:05:50 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Characteristics of fools
Message-ID: <CAJGj9eZRJk+SdOBJer+ooyxs=jvEmfHbHa5T1m6DxdCK1EF+JQ@mail.gmail.com>

1.  The meanings such as obstinate person are there in Sanskrit too.
Bhartrihari's Murkha paddhati has s'lokas on other varieties of murkha than
just fools too. (sharing the pdf)

2. Found details of a Murkha S'atakam by one Prabodha Chandra Misra at

https://openlibrary.org/books/OL24904045M/M%C5%ABrkha%C5%9Batakam


3. Scan copies of the translation of a Murkha satakamu being discussed here
are still elusive.

-- 
Prof.Nagaraj Paturi
Hyderabad-500044


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From rajam at earthlink.net  Fri Feb  6 19:36:56 2015
From: rajam at earthlink.net (rajam)
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 15 11:36:56 -0800
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_The_word_k=C4=81rik=C4=81_in_the_title_of_works?=
In-Reply-To: <CAOuG4CaWFz8gGermkeYrOKQy_Okg6qBo0n1TaUM=byZEy=djew@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6E4E062F-DCDF-4ED4-9669-DD9DDE73C846@earthlink.net>

Not sure if it would help ? There is a text in Tamil named ?y?pparu?kalakk?rikai,? which defines the rules for composing Tamil poetry.

 This text is attributed to amitac?karar, a Jain, of the ~11th century. 

Each verse in this text is addressed to a woman (?k?rikai?). 

If anyone would be interested to know further about this text, let me know.

Regards,
Rajam


> On Feb 6, 2015, at 8:40 AM, Philipp Maas <philipp.a.maas at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Dear Members of Indology,
> 
> Roland Steiner was so kind as to refer me to Wezlers article <http://menadoc.bibliothek.uni-halle.de/dmg/periodical/titleinfo/150856> ?Zu der Frage des Strebens nach ?u?erster K?rze? in den ?rautas?tras. Zeitschrift der Deutschen Morgenl?ndischen Gesellschaft 151 (2001), p. 351-366, p. 360, note 45, which actually is the article I had in mind.
> 
>  
> Wezler observes (on the basis of limited evidence) that colophons and other Sanskrit sources usually use the plural k?rik?-s when referring to versified works, and he suspects that the usage of the singular became common only due to modern Indological catalogueing and the preparation of title lists.
> 
>  
> With regard to the S??khyak?rik?-s Wezler notes that the title provided in the work itself is S??khyasaptati, and that the commentaries, as far as Wezler could see (which coincides with my own observations) never refer to the work with the title S??khyak?rik?.
> 
>  
> With many thanks to all who responded on- and off-list.
> 
>  
> Philipp
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Dr. Philipp A. Maas
> Universit?tsassistent
> Institut f?r S?dasien-, Tibet- und Buddhismuskunde
> Universit?t Wien
> Spitalgasse 2-4, Hof 2, Eingang 2.1
> A-1090 Wien
> ?sterreich
> univie.academia.edu/PhilippMaas <http://univie.academia.edu/PhilippMaas>
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From jean-luc.chevillard at univ-paris-diderot.fr  Sat Feb  7 03:38:30 2015
From: jean-luc.chevillard at univ-paris-diderot.fr (Jean-Luc Chevillard)
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 15 09:08:30 +0530
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_The_word_k=C4=81rik=C4=81_in_the_title_of_works?=
In-Reply-To: <6E4E062F-DCDF-4ED4-9669-DD9DDE73C846@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <54D588B6.6070104@univ-paris-diderot.fr>

Regarding this,
there is an interesting piece of information inside the edition by UVS,
where we see, inside the section called "n?l?ciriyar varal??u"
(I am using the second edition, dated 1968)
the statement:

?????? ???? ??????? ?????????? ???? ?????? ??????????? ?????????
???? ?????? ?????????? ???????? ??????? ??????? ????????? ?????????? ?????
???????? ??????? ???????????* ?????????????.

[k?rikai n?lai iya??iya k?ra?att?l ivar to??ai ma??alattil ku?att?r
e??a i?attai m??iyam?kap pe???r e??um avv?r ?k?rikaik ku?att?r? e??u
va?a?kum e??um c?sa?a?ka??l* teriyavaruki?atu.]

The reference given in the footnote is:

EP. Ind. Vol. XVIII. PP. 64-69
M. E. R. No. 534 of 1921

A link for the text is:
"http://www.tamilvu.org/library/l0300/html/l0300021.htm"

This seems to indicate that the author of y?pparu?kalakk?rikai
received as a gift a place called ku?att?r (located inside to??ai 
ma??alam) and that the place was known after that as ?k?rikaik ku?att?r?,
as attested in some official c?sa?am.

I do not know whether the place is locatable now.

-- Jean-Luc Chevillard (Pondy)



"https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard"




On 07/02/2015 01:06, rajam wrote:
> Not sure if it would help ? There is a text in Tamil named
> ?y?pparu?kalakk?rikai,? which defines the rules for composing Tamil poetry.
>
>   This text is attributed to amitac?karar, a Jain, of the ~11th century.
>
> Each verse in this text is addressed to a woman (?k?rikai?).
>
> If anyone would be interested to know further about this text, let me know.
>
> Regards,
> Rajam
>
>
>> On Feb 6, 2015, at 8:40 AM, Philipp Maas <philipp.a.maas at gmail.com
>> <mailto:philipp.a.maas at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Members of Indology,
>>
>> Roland Steiner was so kind as to refer me to Wezlers article
>> <http://menadoc.bibliothek.uni-halle.de/dmg/periodical/titleinfo/150856>
>> ?Zu der Frage des Strebens nach ?u?erster K?rze? in den ?rautas?tras.
>> /Zeitschrift der Deutschen Morgenl?ndischen Gesellschaft /151 (2001),
>> p. 351-366, p. 360, note 45, which actually is the article I had in mind.
>>
>>
>> Wezler observes (on the basis of limited evidence) that colophons and
>> other Sanskrit sources usually use the plural k?rik?-s when referring
>> to versified works, and he suspects that the usage of the singular
>> became common only due to modern Indological catalogueing and the
>> preparation of title lists.
>>
>>
>> With regard to the S??khyak?rik?-s Wezler notes that the title
>> provided in the work itself is S??khyasaptati, and that the
>> commentaries, as far as Wezler could see (which coincides with my own
>> observations) never refer to the work with the title S??khyak?rik?.
>>
>>
>> With many thanks to all who responded on- and off-list.
>>
>>
>> Philipp
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Philipp A. Maas
>> Universit?tsassistent
>> Institut f?r S?dasien-, Tibet- und Buddhismuskunde
>> Universit?t Wien
>> Spitalgasse 2-4, Hof 2, Eingang 2.1
>> A-1090 Wien
>> ?sterreich
>> univie.academia.edu/PhilippMaas <http://univie.academia.edu/PhilippMaas>
>> _______________________________________________
>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info <mailto:INDOLOGY at list.indology.info>
>> http://listinfo.indology.info
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
>






From palaniappa at aol.com  Sat Feb  7 04:15:21 2015
From: palaniappa at aol.com (palaniappa at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 15 23:15:21 -0500
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_The_word_k=C4=81rik=C4=81_in_the_title_of_works?=
In-Reply-To: <54D588B6.6070104@univ-paris-diderot.fr>
Message-ID: <14b623fc34d-32b5-8c45@webstg-a05.mail.aol.com>

JLC,


K.V. Subrahmanya Ayyar, the author of the EI 18 article, says, "I am not sure if we can identify this place with Ku?att?r, a village near N???r" (see p. 67).  N???r has been located by him in the Mayavaram Taluk as it existed in 1925-26.


Hope this helps.


Regards,
Palaniappan



-----Original Message-----
From: Jean-Luc Chevillard <jean-luc.chevillard at univ-paris-diderot.fr>
To: Indology <indology at list.indology.info>
Sent: Fri, Feb 6, 2015 9:38 pm
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] The word k?rik? in the title of works


Regarding this,
there is an interesting piece of information inside the edition by UVS,
where we see, inside the section called "n?l?ciriyar varal??u"
(I am using the second edition, dated 1968)
the statement:

?????? ???? ??????? ?????????? ???? ?????? ??????????? ?????????
???? ?????? ?????????? ???????? ??????? ??????? ????????? ?????????? ?????
???????? ??????? ???????????* ?????????????.

[k?rikai n?lai iya??iya k?ra?att?l ivar to??ai ma??alattil ku?att?r
e??a i?attai m??iyam?kap pe???r e??um avv?r ?k?rikaik ku?att?r? e??u
va?a?kum e??um c?sa?a?ka??l* teriyavaruki?atu.]

The reference given in the footnote is:

EP. Ind. Vol. XVIII. PP. 64-69
M. E. R. No. 534 of 1921

A link for the text is:
"http://www.tamilvu.org/library/l0300/html/l0300021.htm"

This seems to indicate that the author of y?pparu?kalakk?rikai
received as a gift a place called ku?att?r (located inside to??ai 
ma??alam) and that the place was known after that as ?k?rikaik ku?att?r?,
as attested in some official c?sa?am.

I do not know whether the place is locatable now.

-- Jean-Luc Chevillard (Pondy)



"https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard"




On 07/02/2015 01:06, rajam wrote:
> Not sure if it would help ? There is a text in Tamil named
> ?y?pparu?kalakk?rikai,? which defines the rules for composing Tamil poetry.
>
>   This text is attributed to amitac?karar, a Jain, of the ~11th century.
>
> Each verse in this text is addressed to a woman (?k?rikai?).
>
> If anyone would be interested to know further about this text, let me know.
>
> Regards,
> Rajam
>
>
>> On Feb 6, 2015, at 8:40 AM, Philipp Maas <philipp.a.maas at gmail.com
>> <mailto:philipp.a.maas at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Members of Indology,
>>
>> Roland Steiner was so kind as to refer me to Wezlers article
>> <http://menadoc.bibliothek.uni-halle.de/dmg/periodical/titleinfo/150856>
>> ?Zu der Frage des Strebens nach ?u?erster K?rze? in den ?rautas?tras.
>> /Zeitschrift der Deutschen Morgenl?ndischen Gesellschaft /151 (2001),
>> p. 351-366, p. 360, note 45, which actually is the article I had in mind.
>>
>>
>> Wezler observes (on the basis of limited evidence) that colophons and
>> other Sanskrit sources usually use the plural k?rik?-s when referring
>> to versified works, and he suspects that the usage of the singular
>> became common only due to modern Indological catalogueing and the
>> preparation of title lists.
>>
>>
>> With regard to the S??khyak?rik?-s Wezler notes that the title
>> provided in the work itself is S??khyasaptati, and that the
>> commentaries, as far as Wezler could see (which coincides with my own
>> observations) never refer to the work with the title S??khyak?rik?.
>>
>>
>> With many thanks to all who responded on- and off-list.
>>
>>
>> Philipp
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Philipp A. Maas
>> Universit?tsassistent
>> Institut f?r S?dasien-, Tibet- und Buddhismuskunde
>> Universit?t Wien
>> Spitalgasse 2-4, Hof 2, Eingang 2.1
>> A-1090 Wien
>> ?sterreich
>> univie.academia.edu/PhilippMaas <http://univie.academia.edu/PhilippMaas>
>> _______________________________________________
>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info <mailto:INDOLOGY at list.indology.info>
>> http://listinfo.indology.info
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
>


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From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com  Sat Feb  7 05:12:46 2015
From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi)
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 15 10:42:46 +0530
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_The_word_k=C4=81rik=C4=81_in_the_title_of_works?=
Message-ID: <CAJGj9ebzr3ECHjZKM-Huw-yzDD45L=xbjRFmMGkTmJozvNbASw@mail.gmail.com>

There is a work called "k?rik?vali" by one Atharva?a , dated around 12th
century, a grammar work, written as an elaboration of another work
called ?ndhra?abdachint?ma?i a Telugu grammar written in Sanskrit.

-- 
Prof.Nagaraj Paturi
Hyderabad-500044


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From dominic.goodall at gmail.com  Sun Feb  8 10:28:55 2015
From: dominic.goodall at gmail.com (Dominic Goodall)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 15 11:28:55 +0100
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_The_word_k=C4=81rik=C4=81_in_the_title_of_works?=
In-Reply-To: <CAOuG4CaWFz8gGermkeYrOKQy_Okg6qBo0n1TaUM=byZEy=djew@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEA92D8-8721-43AF-8599-88C520507274@gmail.com>

Dear list-members,

The use of the singular of -k?rik? in text-names is actually not uncommon in ?aiva works. In the published and unpublished works of Aghora?iva (fl. 1157 A.D.), for example, we often find quotations introduced with formulae such as

yad ukta? ni?v?sa-k?rik??, tathokta? n?da-k?rik?y??, tad ukta? bhoga-k?rik?y??, and so forth.

Sometimes only a single verse is quoted, and so one might toy with the hypothesis that the singular was used precisely because a single k?rik? was being introduced.
But sometimes the quotations that are introduced consist of more than one verse. Of course even here one could try to argue that a k?rik? might be considered to be made up of several p?das. But there are other uses of the singular where the context makes clear that it really is the text ? and not a k?rik?-length unit of the text ? that is meant.

To give just one example, this time from tenth-century Kashmir, here is the g?ti verse that concludes Bha??a R?maka??ha's commentary on Sadyojyoti?'s Mok?ak?rik?:

iti mok?ak?rik?y?? n?r?ya?aka??has?nun? racit? |
sa?k?ep?d v?ttir iya? ?i?yahit? bha??ar?maka??hena ||

Dominic Goodall
?cole fran?aise d'Extr?me-Orient


On 06-Feb-2015, at 5:40 PM, Philipp Maas wrote:

> Dear Members of Indology,
> 
> Roland Steiner was so kind as to refer me to Wezlers article ?Zu der Frage des Strebens nach ?u?erster K?rze? in den ?rautas?tras. Zeitschrift der Deutschen Morgenl?ndischen Gesellschaft 151 (2001), p. 351-366, p. 360, note 45, which actually is the article I had in mind.
> 
>  
> Wezler observes (on the basis of limited evidence) that colophons and other Sanskrit sources usually use the plural k?rik?-s when referring to versified works, and he suspects that the usage of the singular became common only due to modern Indological catalogueing and the preparation of title lists.
> 
>  
> With regard to the S??khyak?rik?-s Wezler notes that the title provided in the work itself is S??khyasaptati, and that the commentaries, as far as Wezler could see (which coincides with my own observations) never refer to the work with the title S??khyak?rik?.
> 
>  
> With many thanks to all who responded on- and off-list.
> 
>  
> Philipp
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Dr. Philipp A. Maas
> Universit?tsassistent
> Institut f?r S?dasien-, Tibet- und Buddhismuskunde
> Universit?t Wien
> Spitalgasse 2-4, Hof 2, Eingang 2.1
> A-1090 Wien
> ?sterreich
> univie.academia.edu/PhilippMaas
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info





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From hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com  Sun Feb  8 17:15:17 2015
From: hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com (Harry Spier)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 15 12:15:17 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Examples of very ambiguous devanagari Sanskrit sentences
Message-ID: <CAPW7aQFAYtw+9JWSRXMPA2JzZ0NcMVvs-YOm_MjF8f+RJepaiA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear list members,

I need to show to some non-sanskritists that given a Sanskrit phrase in
devanagari, that how you put in the word breaks in the transliteration can
result in phrases with very different meanings.

Can any of the list members give examples of short sentences in simple
sanskrit in devanagari that when the words are split  differently in the
transliteration give grammatically correct Sanskrit sentences but produce
Sanskrit phrases with  "radically" different meanings.

For my purposes simple Sanskrit sentences are better than more complicated
Sanskrit from the literature.  And sentences that give very different
meanings depending on how the words are broken up are better than more
subtle differences.

Thanks,
Harry Spier


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From jpo at uts.cc.utexas.edu  Sun Feb  8 17:50:32 2015
From: jpo at uts.cc.utexas.edu (Patrick Olivelle)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 15 11:50:32 -0600
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Examples of very ambiguous devanagari Sanskrit	sentences
In-Reply-To: <CAPW7aQFAYtw+9JWSRXMPA2JzZ0NcMVvs-YOm_MjF8f+RJepaiA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <67980F5D-1F47-4067-AC38-90D392F1A712@uts.cc.utexas.edu>

>From a legal standpoint here is an interesting example given by M?dhava in his P?r??ara-M?dhav?ya about a plea in a court of law that is "ambiguous" sa?dighdha. Here the operative words are: "may?deyam" -- which could be may? + adeyam OR may? deyam, with totally opposite meanings. Here is the quote:

P?rM III: 75?76: ???? ??????????? ??? ???????????? ????????????? ???? ?????????? ?????????? ?????????????????? ???????? ?? ??????? ?? ????? ??????? ??????????????? ???????? ???? ? 
Patruck


On Feb 8, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Harry Spier <hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear list members,
> 
> I need to show to some non-sanskritists that given a Sanskrit phrase in devanagari, that how you put in the word breaks in the transliteration can result in phrases with very different meanings.
> 
> Can any of the list members give examples of short sentences in simple sanskrit in devanagari that when the words are split  differently in the transliteration give grammatically correct Sanskrit sentences but produce Sanskrit phrases with  "radically" different meanings.
> 
> For my purposes simple Sanskrit sentences are better than more complicated Sanskrit from the literature.  And sentences that give very different meanings depending on how the words are broken up are better than more subtle differences. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Harry Spier
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
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From Gerard.Huet at inria.fr  Sun Feb  8 18:15:32 2015
From: Gerard.Huet at inria.fr (=?utf-8?Q?G=C3=A9rard_Huet?=)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 15 19:15:32 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Examples of very ambiguous devanagari Sanskrit	sentences
In-Reply-To: <CAPW7aQFAYtw+9JWSRXMPA2JzZ0NcMVvs-YOm_MjF8f+RJepaiA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F3124160-B29F-4A1E-A6E0-E867738F0D57@inria.fr>

Even before going to sentences, words are ambiguous (homophony) because distinct morphological constructions yield different meanings, even before compounding.

Kunjunni Raja (Indian Theories of Meaning p37) discusses sam?na:
sam?na1 = sam-?na :  digestion
s'am?na2 = taddhita derivative of sama : similar, same
sam?na3 = sa-maana : of the same measure; honored; proud

and actually in this last case, one should distinguish sam?na3 = sa-maana1 :  honored; proud
from sam?na4 = sa-maana2 : of the same measure
since maana itself is more than polysemic, it has 2 distinct homophones:
maana1 : esteemed; proud ; esteem, pride (pp of root man = to think)
maana2 = k?t derivative of root maa : measure, dimension

It is to be noted that MW's homonymy treatment of this situation is rather confusing.

Thus, even a simple inflected form such as sam?nam may have (at least) four different meanings, just by internal morphology ambiguity.

GH






From ondracka at ff.cuni.cz  Sun Feb  8 18:40:01 2015
From: ondracka at ff.cuni.cz (Lubomir Ondracka)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 15 18:40:01 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Examples of very ambiguous devanagari Sanskrit sentences
In-Reply-To: <CAPW7aQFAYtw+9JWSRXMPA2JzZ0NcMVvs-YOm_MjF8f+RJepaiA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150208184001.4a08bf7b508bd71230f7a180@ff.cuni.cz>

See Yigal Bronner's book on ?le?a (Extreme Poetry: The South Asian Movement of Simultaneous Narration, Columbia UP 2010). Nice example using two ways of splitting sandhi leading to very different meanings is on page 101. You will probably find more examples in this book.

Lubom?r Ondra?ka



On Sun, 8 Feb 2015 12:15:17 -0500
Harry Spier <hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear list members,
> 
> I need to show to some non-sanskritists that given a Sanskrit phrase in
> devanagari, that how you put in the word breaks in the transliteration can
> result in phrases with very different meanings.
> 
> Can any of the list members give examples of short sentences in simple
> sanskrit in devanagari that when the words are split  differently in the
> transliteration give grammatically correct Sanskrit sentences but produce
> Sanskrit phrases with  "radically" different meanings.
> 
> For my purposes simple Sanskrit sentences are better than more complicated
> Sanskrit from the literature.  And sentences that give very different
> meanings depending on how the words are broken up are better than more
> subtle differences.
> 
> Thanks,
> Harry Spier





From bloturco at centoper.it  Sun Feb  8 19:12:43 2015
From: bloturco at centoper.it (bloturco at centoper.it)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 15 20:12:43 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Salomon, Baums
Message-ID: <54806.79.43.210.229.1423422763.squirrel@www.centoper.it>

Dear Members of the List,
I am looking for a pdf of the following article:
Salomon, Richard and Stefan Baums. 2007. ?Sanskrit Ik?v?ku, Pali Okk?ka,
and G?ndh?r? I?maho.? Journal of the Pali Text Society 29: 201?27.
Many thanks in advance.
Regards,
Bruno Lo Turco
Sapienza Universit? di Roma






From baums at lmu.de  Sun Feb  8 19:41:03 2015
From: baums at lmu.de (Stefan Baums)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 15 20:41:03 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Salomon, Baums
In-Reply-To: <54806.79.43.210.229.1423422763.squirrel@www.centoper.it>
Message-ID: <20150208194103.GB5050@deepthought>

Dear Bruno,

I will send you a copy offlist.

All best,
Stefan

-- 
Dr. Stefan Baums
Institute for Indian and Tibetan Studies
Ludwig Maximilian University of Munich





From hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com  Sun Feb  8 20:09:57 2015
From: hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com (Harry Spier)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 15 15:09:57 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Examples of very ambiguous devanagari Sanskrit	sentences
In-Reply-To: <20150208184001.4a08bf7b508bd71230f7a180@ff.cuni.cz>
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Thanks for these replies.

What will help me the most is some very simple Sanskrit phrases that
show  completely different meanings by how you put breaks in the
transliteration.  I need to show examples of this to non-sanskritist,
non-devanagari knowing typesetters.

The best I could come up with is:

???????????? ?????? ?

which can be:

pu?pam adhyeti smarati ca He turns his mind towards the lotus and remembers
it.

or
pu?pa-madhyeti smarati ca = pu?pa-madhya iti smarati ca = He  remembers  [the
phrase] "the middle of the lotus"

More examples like this would be useful.

Thanks,
Harry Spier

On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Lubomir Ondracka <ondracka at ff.cuni.cz>
wrote:

> See Yigal Bronner's book on ?le?a (Extreme Poetry: The South Asian
> Movement of Simultaneous Narration, Columbia UP 2010). Nice example using
> two ways of splitting sandhi leading to very different meanings is on page
> 101. You will probably find more examples in this book.
>
> Lubom?r Ondra?ka
>
>
>
> On Sun, 8 Feb 2015 12:15:17 -0500
> Harry Spier <hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear list members,
> >
> > I need to show to some non-sanskritists that given a Sanskrit phrase in
> > devanagari, that how you put in the word breaks in the transliteration
> can
> > result in phrases with very different meanings.
> >
> > Can any of the list members give examples of short sentences in simple
> > sanskrit in devanagari that when the words are split  differently in the
> > transliteration give grammatically correct Sanskrit sentences but produce
> > Sanskrit phrases with  "radically" different meanings.
> >
> > For my purposes simple Sanskrit sentences are better than more
> complicated
> > Sanskrit from the literature.  And sentences that give very different
> > meanings depending on how the words are broken up are better than more
> > subtle differences.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Harry Spier
>


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From mkapstei at uchicago.edu  Sun Feb  8 20:25:17 2015
From: mkapstei at uchicago.edu (Matthew Kapstein)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 15 20:25:17 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Examples of very ambiguous devanagari	Sanskrit	sentences
In-Reply-To: <CAPW7aQESirbR2RPjx1g5JL3xC_1xg6PPG6_SVCXRaP5A_pQbNQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <82C3E42590D939418C74DD76B97DDED0374E1BA1@xm-mbx-04-prod.ad.uchicago.edu>

well, there's always the famous prahelikaa verse:
ekon? vi??ati str???? sn?n?rtha? saray?? gat?? | vi??ati pratiy?t?? ca eko vy?ghre?a bhak?ita?

where it all changes if you read:
eko n?

Matthew

Matthew Kapstein
Directeur d'?tudes,
Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes

Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies,
The University of Chicago
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From martin.gansten at pbhome.se  Sun Feb  8 20:25:13 2015
From: martin.gansten at pbhome.se (Martin Gansten)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 15 21:25:13 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Examples of very ambiguous devanagari Sanskrit	sentences
In-Reply-To: <CAPW7aQESirbR2RPjx1g5JL3xC_1xg6PPG6_SVCXRaP5A_pQbNQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54D7C629.40808@pbhome.se>

In the B?had?ra?yaka Upani?ad 4.3 there is a sentence that, if memory 
serves, can be read as either sam enena vadi?ya iti '[He thought], "I 
will speak with him"' or sa mene na vadi?ya iti 'He thought, "I will not 
say [all that I know]"'. Again if memory serves, Patrick Olivelle and 
?a?kara -- two great authorities in their different ways -- both uphold 
the latter meaning, but I admit the former has always made more sense to 
me (not least because the two people concerned do end up conversing in 
the very next sentence, using the verb sam+vad).

Martin Gansten


Harry Spier wrote:
> Thanks for these replies.
>
> What will help me the most is some very simple Sanskrit phrases that 
> show  completely different meanings by how you put breaks in the 
> transliteration.  I need to show examples of this to non-sanskritist, 
> non-devanagari knowing typesetters.
>
> The best I could come up with is:
>
> ???????????? ?????? ?
>
> which can be:
>
> pu?pam adhyeti smarati ca He turns his mind towards the lotus and 
> remembers it.
>
> or
>
> pu?pa-madhyeti smarati ca = pu?pa-madhya iti smarati ca = 
> Heremembers[the phrase] "the middle of the lotus"
>
> More examples like this would be useful.
>
> Thanks,
> Harry Spier



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From ondracka at ff.cuni.cz  Sun Feb  8 21:06:53 2015
From: ondracka at ff.cuni.cz (Lubomir Ondracka)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 15 21:06:53 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Examples of very ambiguous devanagari Sanskrit sentences
In-Reply-To: <CAPW7aQESirbR2RPjx1g5JL3xC_1xg6PPG6_SVCXRaP5A_pQbNQ@mail.gmail.com>
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RV 8.100.11d: s???uta?tu

1. s???ut? etu  "may she [the goddess Speech], meetly lauded, go away"
2. s???ut? ?? etu "may she, meetly lauded, come [to us]"

(Filliozat, Sanskrit Language, p. 19)

LO


On Sun, 8 Feb 2015 15:09:57 -0500
Harry Spier <hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for these replies.
> 
> What will help me the most is some very simple Sanskrit phrases that
> show  completely different meanings by how you put breaks in the
> transliteration.  I need to show examples of this to non-sanskritist,
> non-devanagari knowing typesetters.
> 
> The best I could come up with is:
> 
> ???????????? ?????? ?
> 
> which can be:
> 
> pu?pam adhyeti smarati ca He turns his mind towards the lotus and remembers
> it.
> 
> or
> pu?pa-madhyeti smarati ca = pu?pa-madhya iti smarati ca = He  remembers  [the
> phrase] "the middle of the lotus"
> 
> More examples like this would be useful.
> 
> Thanks,
> Harry Spier
> 
> On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Lubomir Ondracka <ondracka at ff.cuni.cz>
> wrote:
> 
> > See Yigal Bronner's book on ?le?a (Extreme Poetry: The South Asian
> > Movement of Simultaneous Narration, Columbia UP 2010). Nice example using
> > two ways of splitting sandhi leading to very different meanings is on page
> > 101. You will probably find more examples in this book.
> >
> > Lubom?r Ondra?ka
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 8 Feb 2015 12:15:17 -0500
> > Harry Spier <hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear list members,
> > >
> > > I need to show to some non-sanskritists that given a Sanskrit phrase in
> > > devanagari, that how you put in the word breaks in the transliteration
> > can
> > > result in phrases with very different meanings.
> > >
> > > Can any of the list members give examples of short sentences in simple
> > > sanskrit in devanagari that when the words are split  differently in the
> > > transliteration give grammatically correct Sanskrit sentences but produce
> > > Sanskrit phrases with  "radically" different meanings.
> > >
> > > For my purposes simple Sanskrit sentences are better than more
> > complicated
> > > Sanskrit from the literature.  And sentences that give very different
> > > meanings depending on how the words are broken up are better than more
> > > subtle differences.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Harry Spier
> >





From antonia.ruppel at cornell.edu  Sun Feb  8 21:19:02 2015
From: antonia.ruppel at cornell.edu (Antonia Ruppel)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 15 21:19:02 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Examples of very ambiguous devanagari Sanskrit	sentences
In-Reply-To: <54D7C629.40808@pbhome.se>
Message-ID: <CAEjEOsCpzLTf9KMTkHNH2wFODqaPvfHSNN1KHpKW+=M6WTRpPg@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Harry,

There is also something in one of the stories from the Kath?sarits?gara
quoted by Lanman in his reader: Section 26 (pp. 49-53) = vi.108-164, which
Lanman calls 'The king who didn't know his Sanskrit grammar'. The crucial
scene is one where the king misinterprets

modakair (= m? udakaih) deva parit??aya m?m '*don't* pelt me *with
water*/throw water at me'

as

modakair etc 'pelt me *with sweets*'.

(His ignorance thus revealed, he then needs to go ahead and study Sanskrit
properly.)

Maybe this helps?

All best,
     Antonia



On 8 February 2015 at 20:25, Martin Gansten <martin.gansten at pbhome.se>
wrote:

> In the B?had?ra?yaka Upani?ad 4.3 there is a sentence that, if memory
> serves, can be read as either sam enena vadi?ya iti '[He thought], "I
> will speak with him"' or sa mene na vadi?ya iti 'He thought, "I will not
> say [all that I know]"'. Again if memory serves, Patrick Olivelle and
> ?a?kara -- two great authorities in their different ways -- both uphold the
> latter meaning, but I admit the former has always made more sense to me
> (not least because the two people concerned do end up conversing in the
> very next sentence, using the verb sam+vad).
>
> Martin Gansten
>
>
> Harry Spier wrote:
>
> Thanks for these replies.
>
> What will help me the most is some very simple Sanskrit phrases that
> show  completely different meanings by how you put breaks in the
> transliteration.  I need to show examples of this to non-sanskritist,
> non-devanagari knowing typesetters.
>
> The best I could come up with is:
>
> ???????????? ?????? ?
>
> which can be:
>
> pu?pam adhyeti smarati ca He turns his mind towards the lotus and
> remembers it.
>
> or
> pu?pa-madhyeti smarati ca = pu?pa-madhya iti smarati ca = He  remembers  [the
> phrase] "the middle of the lotus"
>
> More examples like this would be useful.
>
> Thanks,
> Harry Spier
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
>



-- 
 ANTONIA RUPPEL
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From emstern at verizon.net  Sun Feb  8 21:40:45 2015
From: emstern at verizon.net (Elliot Stern)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 15 16:40:45 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Examples of very ambiguous	devanagari	Sanskrit	sentences
In-Reply-To: <82C3E42590D939418C74DD76B97DDED0374E1BA1@xm-mbx-04-prod.ad.uchicago.edu>
Message-ID: <B92B645A-715C-4556-B85B-8613ECB136D4@verizon.net>

Here?s an example as explained in ny?yaka?ik?:

yath? ?veto dh?vat?tyekasm?deva v?ky?darthadvayamavagamyate ?uklo nir?ekt?ti ca kauleyaka ito druta?  gacchat?ti ca



Elliot M. Stern
552 South 48th Street
Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029
United States of America
telephone: 215-747-6204
mobile: 267-240-8418
emstern at verizon.net

> On 08 Feb  2015, at 15:25, Matthew Kapstein <mkapstei at uchicago.edu> wrote:
> 
> well, there's always the famous prahelikaa verse:
> ekon? vi??ati str???? sn?n?rtha? saray?? gat?? | vi??ati pratiy?t?? ca eko vy?ghre?a bhak?ita?
> 
> where it all changes if you read:
> eko n?
> 
> Matthew
> 
> Matthew Kapstein
> Directeur d'?tudes, 
> Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes
> 
> Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies,
> The University of Chicago
> 
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
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From emstern at verizon.net  Sun Feb  8 21:53:48 2015
From: emstern at verizon.net (Elliot Stern)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 15 16:53:48 -0500
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_ma=E1=B9=87iprabh=C4=81_of_r=C4=81m=C4=81nandasarasvat=C4=AB?=
Message-ID: <2DE0EE1C-CF3C-42AF-9E82-2E3B8827DE67@verizon.net>

I?m hoping that a list member can share a Sanskrit text of ma?iprabh? of r?m?nandasarasvat?, a commentary on the yogas?tra. The DLI copy, which repeatedly failed to download with DLI Downloader turns out to be a defective scan. I tried to download it page by page and found that none of the scanned pages is complete. 


Elliot M. Stern
552 South 48th Street
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United States of America
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From mmdesh at umich.edu  Mon Feb  9 00:59:49 2015
From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 15 06:29:49 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Salomon, Baums
In-Reply-To: <20150208194103.GB5050@deepthought>
Message-ID: <CAB3-dzfWjocKZecZuH2GCKCUrtorhjnr2L_ghCJEKrn4af2bnw@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Stefan,

     Could you send a copy of this article to me as well.  Thanks.

Madhav

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 1:11 AM, Stefan Baums <baums at lmu.de> wrote:

> Dear Bruno,
>
> I will send you a copy offlist.
>
> All best,
> Stefan
>
> --
> Dr. Stefan Baums
> Institute for Indian and Tibetan Studies
> Ludwig Maximilian University of Munich
>
> _______________________________________________
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>



-- 
Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
The University of Michigan
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From mmdesh at umich.edu  Mon Feb  9 01:09:08 2015
From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 15 06:39:08 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Examples of very ambiguous devanagari Sanskrit	sentences
In-Reply-To: <B92B645A-715C-4556-B85B-8613ECB136D4@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CAB3-dzfsOrZAacdkknaiGJS2YbHyG6B-Z7hO1dLkU5YcqPEvYg@mail.gmail.com>

Different interpretations of the Bhagavadgita verses by different
commentators often are a result of different ways of splitting the words.
A good example is: n?sato vidyate bh?vo n?bh?vo vidyate sata?.  This is
interpreted by ?a?kara to mean that there is no bh?va for asat, and there
is no abh?va for sat.  Other commentators have read the line differently by
punctuating it in a different way: n?sato vidyate 'bh?vo n?bh?vo vidyate
sata? : There is no abh?va for either sat or asat.  The phrase
traigu?yavi?ay? veda? nistraigu?yo bhav?rjuna has similar different
readings.  One reading says that the Vedas have the three gu?as as their
domain (vi?aya), but, O Arjuna, free yourself from these three gu?as.  If I
remember correctly, Madhva says traigu?ya-vi?a-y? ved?? : traigu?yam eva
vi?am, tad y?payanti apagamayanti.

Madhav Deshpande

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 3:10 AM, Elliot Stern <emstern at verizon.net> wrote:

> Here?s an example as explained in ny?yaka?ik?:
>
> yath? ?veto dh?vat?tyekasm?deva v?ky?darthadvayamavagamyate ?uklo
> nir?ekt?ti ca kauleyaka ito druta?  gacchat?ti ca
>
>
>
> Elliot M. Stern
> 552 South 48th Street
> Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029
> United States of America
> telephone: 215-747-6204
> mobile: 267-240-8418
> emstern at verizon.net
>
> On 08 Feb  2015, at 15:25, Matthew Kapstein <mkapstei at uchicago.edu> wrote:
>
> well, there's always the famous prahelikaa verse:
> *eko**n?* *vi??ati* *str????* *sn?n?rtha?* *saray??* *gat??* | *vi??ati*
> *pratiy?t??* *ca* *eko* *vy?ghre?a*
> *bhak?ita?*
> where it all changes if you read:
> *eko** n?*
>
> Matthew
>
> Matthew Kapstein
> Directeur d'?tudes,
> Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes
>
> Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies,
> The University of Chicago
> ------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
>
>
>
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>



-- 
Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
The University of Michigan
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From dipak.d2004 at gmail.com  Mon Feb  9 05:02:25 2015
From: dipak.d2004 at gmail.com (Dipak Bhattacharya)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 15 10:32:25 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Examples of very ambiguous devanagari Sanskrit	sentences
In-Reply-To: <CAPW7aQFAYtw+9JWSRXMPA2JzZ0NcMVvs-YOm_MjF8f+RJepaiA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABEB9qKt0RXrSyMxYrWPhHuGH=zJNhaadmqV4wodafPvGBiwEQ@mail.gmail.com>

As for the original question of Mr. Harry Spier in some publications an
avagraha is put to indicate a coalesced/elided ? and two for two such ?s.
One has ???s????? for *may? adeyam* and ???ss????? for *may? ?deyam*.

I did not see the latter in manuscripts.

Best

DB



On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 10:45 PM, Harry Spier <hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear list members,
>
> I need to show to some non-sanskritists that given a Sanskrit phrase in
> devanagari, that how you put in the word breaks in the transliteration can
> result in phrases with very different meanings.
>
> Can any of the list members give examples of short sentences in simple
> sanskrit in devanagari that when the words are split  differently in the
> transliteration give grammatically correct Sanskrit sentences but produce
> Sanskrit phrases with  "radically" different meanings.
>
> For my purposes simple Sanskrit sentences are better than more complicated
> Sanskrit from the literature.  And sentences that give very different
> meanings depending on how the words are broken up are better than more
> subtle differences.
>
> Thanks,
> Harry Spier
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
>


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From drdhaval2785 at gmail.com  Mon Feb  9 05:11:59 2015
From: drdhaval2785 at gmail.com (dhaval patel)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 15 10:41:59 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Examples of very ambiguous devanagari Sanskrit	sentences
In-Reply-To: <CABEB9qKt0RXrSyMxYrWPhHuGH=zJNhaadmqV4wodafPvGBiwEQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADSGPzUGKz-Q14=Ds4F8xOpRDX9k3vAX-v7j=LnWCEpDJ-mqeg@mail.gmail.com>

I am currently working with a manuscript of 'virahiNIpralApaH' which is a
kAvya where the stanzas by rule have such quality.

I hope the following stanza may be useful for your purpose.

? ????? ???? ???? *????????? ?????* ?

??????? ?????????? *??????????????* ? ? ?

?.??. -

? ????? ???? ???? ???? ?????? ????? ? ??? ???? ????-?????? ????-?????? ????
?

?????? -

???? ???? ?????? ????? ???? ? ????? ???? ?????????? ?????????? ???? ???? ?

???????? -

???? ????? ? ???? ?????? ? ?????? ??? ? ????? ????????? ? ??????????
???????????? ? ??????????? ?????????? ?????????? ?



On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Dipak Bhattacharya <dipak.d2004 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> As for the original question of Mr. Harry Spier in some publications an
> avagraha is put to indicate a coalesced/elided ? and two for two such ?s.
> One has ???s????? for *may? adeyam* and ???ss????? for *may? ?deyam*.
>
> I did not see the latter in manuscripts.
>
> Best
>
> DB
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 10:45 PM, Harry Spier <hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear list members,
>>
>> I need to show to some non-sanskritists that given a Sanskrit phrase in
>> devanagari, that how you put in the word breaks in the transliteration can
>> result in phrases with very different meanings.
>>
>> Can any of the list members give examples of short sentences in simple
>> sanskrit in devanagari that when the words are split  differently in the
>> transliteration give grammatically correct Sanskrit sentences but produce
>> Sanskrit phrases with  "radically" different meanings.
>>
>> For my purposes simple Sanskrit sentences are better than more
>> complicated Sanskrit from the literature.  And sentences that give very
>> different meanings depending on how the words are broken up are better than
>> more subtle differences.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Harry Spier
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>> http://listinfo.indology.info
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
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>



-- 
Dr. Dhaval Patel, I.A.S
District Development Officer, Rajkot
www.sanskritworld.in


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From samparkdev at gmail.com  Mon Feb  9 05:15:11 2015
From: samparkdev at gmail.com (Diwakar singh)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 15 10:45:11 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] (no subject)
Message-ID: <CAEr6jMUO3T3GdWkmp=e-dS0LSZDsFoyw3EyOjNVVWygE=s9sRQ@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Members,
I am looking for this text
Pasupata sutram, with Panchartha-Bhasya of Kaundinya. Translated with an
introd. on the history of Saivism in India [by] Haripada Chakrabort (Calcutta,
Academic Publishers [1970]  I will  highly appreciate and will be obliged
if some one could send me the Pdf copy. Warm RegardsDiwakar Kumar Singh
University of Delhi


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From rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk  Mon Feb  9 11:45:09 2015
From: rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk (Rohana Seneviratne)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 15 11:45:09 +0000
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_ma=E1=B9=87iprabh=C4=81_of_r=C4=81m=C4=81nandasarasvat=C4=AB?=
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Just uploaded to archive.org

The Patanjaladarsana with the Maniprabha Commentary of Ramananda Sarasvati. Edited by Rohinikanta Sidhantavagisvara Bhattacarya. 1922.

https://archive.org/details/Patanjaladarsanamwithmaniprabha


Best Wishes,
Rohana
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I?m hoping that a list member can share a Sanskrit text of ma?iprabh? of r?m?nandasarasvat?, a commentary on the yogas?tra. The DLI copy, which repeatedly failed to download with DLI Downloader turns out to be a defective scan. I tried to download it page by page and found that none of the scanned pages is complete.


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From dermot at grevatt.force9.co.uk  Mon Feb  9 14:34:47 2015
From: dermot at grevatt.force9.co.uk (dermot at grevatt.force9.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 15 14:34:47 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Examples of very ambiguous devanagari Sanskrit	sentences
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Dear Elliott,

Thank you for your contribution below. But that example (?sveto) is ambiguous whether you 
write it in roman or devanagari. The original request was for sentences that are ambiguous in 
devanagari but not in roman. Martin Gansten's example from BU 4.3.1, sa mene na / sam 
enena, fulfils the requirement, because the space between sa and mene can be written in 
roman though not in devanagari. But Matthew Kapstein's example ekonAviMzati / eko nA 
viMzati doesn't fulfil the requirement, because the spaces can be written in devanagari as 
well as in roman.

I notice that you follow the practice of only writing spaces in roman where they are possible in 
devanagari, e.g.  dhavatityekasmadeva rather than  dhavatity ekasmad eva. As far as I know 
this is a fairly recent practice; the older practice is to write spaces in roman where they are 
possible--that is, wherever a letter doesn't belong to two words because of sandhi. I have 
sometimes been rebuked for following this practice, on the grounds that I should transcribe 
the devanagari exactly. But the practice of writing spaces in devanagari is itself relatively 
recent. I haven't any firm evidence, but I understand it came in with printing, around 1800. So 
the demand to write spaces in roman only where they would be written in devanagari is not 
supported by ancient tradition. The rule for both is the same: write spaces where you can.

This means that in devanagari, though less often than in roman, editors of texts make 
judgments which guide the reader to one or other way of understanding the utterance: e.g. sa 
mene na or sam enena in BU 4.3.1. This is not a matter of variants in the text itself, but only 
two ways of interpreting it, since the text is neither of the above, but only samenena.

If anyone can help with more precise observations, I'd be grateful.

Dermot Killingley

On 8 Feb 2015 at 16:40, Elliot Stern wrote:

Here's an example as explained in nyayakaika:

yatha ?sveto dhavatityekasmadeva vakyadarthadvayamavagamyate ?suklo nirektiti ca 
kauleyaka ito druta gacchatiti ca



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    On 08 Feb 2015, at 15:25, Matthew Kapstein <mkapstei at uchicago.edu> wrote:

    well, there's always the famous prahelikaa verse:
    ekona vi?sati stria  snanartha sarayu gata |  vi?sati pratiyata ca eko  
    vyaghrea bhakita
    
    where it all changes if you read:
    eko  na 
    
    Matthew

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    Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes
    
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    The University of Chicago
    

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From hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com  Mon Feb  9 14:53:29 2015
From: hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com (Harry Spier)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 15 09:53:29 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Examples of very ambiguous devanagari Sanskrit	sentences
In-Reply-To: <CABEB9qKt0RXrSyMxYrWPhHuGH=zJNhaadmqV4wodafPvGBiwEQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPW7aQFDKB44i=9TSp34OgMd5Ujoj4vFP1OjqF6r3cokgcHBuQ@mail.gmail.com>

Dipak Bhattacharya raises a point I've wondered about.
1) Why wasn't (until recently) avagraha used to resolve this kind of
ambiguity.
2)  Is avagraha only a written sign or is it some kind of pause in spoken
Sanskrit
3) How far back does avagraha go.  To Panini, pre-Panini, post-Panini ?

Thanks,
Harry Spier

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 12:02 AM, Dipak Bhattacharya <dipak.d2004 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> As for the original question of Mr. Harry Spier in some publications an
> avagraha is put to indicate a coalesced/elided ? and two for two such ?s.
> One has ???s????? for *may? adeyam* and ???ss????? for *may? ?deyam*.
>
> I did not see the latter in manuscripts.
>
> Best
>
> DB
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 10:45 PM, Harry Spier <hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear list members,
>>
>> I need to show to some non-sanskritists that given a Sanskrit phrase in
>> devanagari, that how you put in the word breaks in the transliteration can
>> result in phrases with very different meanings.
>>
>> Can any of the list members give examples of short sentences in simple
>> sanskrit in devanagari that when the words are split  differently in the
>> transliteration give grammatically correct Sanskrit sentences but produce
>> Sanskrit phrases with  "radically" different meanings.
>>
>> For my purposes simple Sanskrit sentences are better than more
>> complicated Sanskrit from the literature.  And sentences that give very
>> different meanings depending on how the words are broken up are better than
>> more subtle differences.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Harry Spier
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
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From emstern at verizon.net  Mon Feb  9 16:12:23 2015
From: emstern at verizon.net (Elliot Stern)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 15 11:12:23 -0500
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_ma=E1=B9=87iprabh=C4=81_of_r=C4=81m=C4=81nandasarasvat=C4=AB?=
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My deepest thanks to both Madhav and Rohana for their quick responses to my request.

Elliot


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> On 09 Feb  2015, at 06:13, Rohana Seneviratne <rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> Dear Professor Elliot,
> 
> I could download from the DLI a fairly good copy of the Yogasutra with Maniprabha. I assume it is not this copy you have found defective. 
> 
> Best Wishes,
> Rohana
> ------------------------------------------------
> Rohana Seneviratne
> DPhil Student in Sanskrit
> The Oriental Institute
> Faculty of Oriental Studies
> University of Oxford
> Pusey Lane, Oxford
> OX1 2LE
> United Kingdom
> 
> Email: rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk <mailto:rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk>
> Web: http://users.ox.ac.uk/~pemb3753/ <http://users.ox.ac.uk/~pemb3753/>
> From: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] on behalf of Elliot Stern [emstern at verizon.net]
> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 9:53 PM
> To: Indology Indology listserve
> Subject: [INDOLOGY] ma?iprabh? of r?m?nandasarasvat?
> 
> I?m hoping that a list member can share a Sanskrit text of ma?iprabh? of r?m?nandasarasvat?, a commentary on the yogas?tra. The DLI copy, which repeatedly failed to download with DLI Downloader turns out to be a defective scan. I tried to download it page by page and found that none of the scanned pages is complete. 
> 
> 
> Elliot M. Stern
> 552 South 48th Street
> Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029
> United States of America
> telephone: 215-747-6204
> mobile: 267-240-8418
> emstern at verizon.net <mailto:emstern at verizon.net>
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From wujastyk at gmail.com  Mon Feb  9 16:26:38 2015
From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 15 17:26:38 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] (no subject)
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Trivandrum 1940 edition is in the DLI, if that's any help.
Best,
DW

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On 9 February 2015 at 06:15, Diwakar singh <samparkdev at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Members,
> I am looking for this text
> Pasupata sutram, with Panchartha-Bhasya of Kaundinya. Translated with an
> introd. on the history of Saivism in India [by] Haripada Chakrabort (Calcutta,
> Academic Publishers [1970]  I will  highly appreciate and will be obliged
> if some one could send me the Pdf copy. Warm RegardsDiwakar Kumar Singh
> University of Delhi
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From drdhaval2785 at gmail.com  Mon Feb  9 16:54:29 2015
From: drdhaval2785 at gmail.com (dhaval patel)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 15 22:24:29 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Examples of very ambiguous devanagari Sanskrit	sentences
In-Reply-To: <CAPW7aQFDKB44i=9TSp34OgMd5Ujoj4vFP1OjqF6r3cokgcHBuQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Let's fix the earliest date when avagraha made appearance.
Randomly picking up my manuscript copies shows that avagraha was prevalent
in 1574 vikrama saMvat (around 1497-98 AD roughly) for sure. So, it is not
too modern a phenomenon.
References with evidence pointing to a still earlier date is welcome.
Please find attached the manuscript page with colophon.
See third line ??????????.
Also see the use of avagraha to do vicCeda of sandhi in the commentary
above the verse lines.



On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 8:23 PM, Harry Spier <hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dipak Bhattacharya raises a point I've wondered about.
> 1) Why wasn't (until recently) avagraha used to resolve this kind of
> ambiguity.
> 2)  Is avagraha only a written sign or is it some kind of pause in spoken
> Sanskrit
> 3) How far back does avagraha go.  To Panini, pre-Panini, post-Panini ?
>
> Thanks,
> Harry Spier
>
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 12:02 AM, Dipak Bhattacharya <dipak.d2004 at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> As for the original question of Mr. Harry Spier in some publications an
>> avagraha is put to indicate a coalesced/elided ? and two for two such ?s.
>> One has ???s????? for *may? adeyam* and ???ss????? for *may? ?deyam*.
>>
>> I did not see the latter in manuscripts.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> DB
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 10:45 PM, Harry Spier <hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Dear list members,
>>>
>>> I need to show to some non-sanskritists that given a Sanskrit phrase in
>>> devanagari, that how you put in the word breaks in the transliteration can
>>> result in phrases with very different meanings.
>>>
>>> Can any of the list members give examples of short sentences in simple
>>> sanskrit in devanagari that when the words are split  differently in the
>>> transliteration give grammatically correct Sanskrit sentences but produce
>>> Sanskrit phrases with  "radically" different meanings.
>>>
>>> For my purposes simple Sanskrit sentences are better than more
>>> complicated Sanskrit from the literature.  And sentences that give very
>>> different meanings depending on how the words are broken up are better than
>>> more subtle differences.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Harry Spier
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>>> http://listinfo.indology.info
>>>
>>
>>
>
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From jpo at uts.cc.utexas.edu  Mon Feb  9 17:20:23 2015
From: jpo at uts.cc.utexas.edu (Patrick Olivelle)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 15 11:20:23 -0600
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Examples of very ambiguous devanagari Sanskrit	sentences
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As far as I know, avagraha was/is used to indicate true elision of a vowel, most frequently the short "a": e.g. ?????? (for ?: ????). In the examples given, there is no true elision but simply sa?dhi that creates the long ?; we have similar vowel assimilations in a + i = e, and one never put a avagraha to indicate this.



On Feb 9, 2015, at 10:54 AM, dhaval patel <drdhaval2785 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Let's fix the earliest date when avagraha made appearance.
> Randomly picking up my manuscript copies shows that avagraha was prevalent in 1574 vikrama saMvat (around 1497-98 AD roughly) for sure. So, it is not too modern a phenomenon.
> References with evidence pointing to a still earlier date is welcome.
> Please find attached the manuscript page with colophon.
> See third line ??????????. 
> Also see the use of avagraha to do vicCeda of sandhi in the commentary above the verse lines.
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 8:23 PM, Harry Spier <hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dipak Bhattacharya raises a point I've wondered about. 
> 1) Why wasn't (until recently) avagraha used to resolve this kind of ambiguity.
> 2)  Is avagraha only a written sign or is it some kind of pause in spoken Sanskrit
> 3) How far back does avagraha go.  To Panini, pre-Panini, post-Panini ?
> 
> Thanks,
> Harry Spier
> 
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 12:02 AM, Dipak Bhattacharya <dipak.d2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
> As for the original question of Mr. Harry Spier in some publications an avagraha is put to indicate a coalesced/elided ? and two for two such ?s. One has ???s????? for may? adeyam and ???ss????? for may? ?deyam.
> I did not see the latter in manuscripts.
> 
> Best
> 
> DB
> 
>  
> 
> On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 10:45 PM, Harry Spier <hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear list members,
> 
> I need to show to some non-sanskritists that given a Sanskrit phrase in devanagari, that how you put in the word breaks in the transliteration can result in phrases with very different meanings.
> 
> Can any of the list members give examples of short sentences in simple sanskrit in devanagari that when the words are split  differently in the transliteration give grammatically correct Sanskrit sentences but produce Sanskrit phrases with  "radically" different meanings.
> 
> For my purposes simple Sanskrit sentences are better than more complicated Sanskrit from the literature.  And sentences that give very different meanings depending on how the words are broken up are better than more subtle differences. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Harry Spier
> 
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
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> District Development Officer, Rajkot
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From drdhaval2785 at gmail.com  Mon Feb  9 17:30:10 2015
From: drdhaval2785 at gmail.com (dhaval patel)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 15 23:00:10 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Examples of very ambiguous devanagari Sanskrit	sentences
In-Reply-To: <8648ABD3-2851-4B97-ADEC-028D8EE55964@uts.cc.utexas.edu>
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It is about conventions. I have seen texts where a dIrgha 'A' followed by a
hrasva 'a' has been depicted by a single avagraha and dIrgha 'A' followed
by dIrgha 'A' are depicted by two avagrahas.

But that is not under question.
Earliest appearance of avagraha to split the words is under question.
Attaching another line from the same MS showing a true elision depicted by
avagraha.
See ???????????? at the end of first line.


On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 10:50 PM, Patrick Olivelle <jpo at uts.cc.utexas.edu>
wrote:

> As far as I know, avagraha was/is used to indicate true elision of a
> vowel, most frequently the short "a": e.g. ?????? (for ?: ????). In the
> examples given, there is no true elision but simply sa?dhi that creates the
> long ?; we have similar vowel assimilations in a + i = e, and one never put
> a avagraha to indicate this.
>
>
>
> On Feb 9, 2015, at 10:54 AM, dhaval patel <drdhaval2785 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Let's fix the earliest date when avagraha made appearance.
> Randomly picking up my manuscript copies shows that avagraha was prevalent
> in 1574 vikrama saMvat (around 1497-98 AD roughly) for sure. So, it is not
> too modern a phenomenon.
> References with evidence pointing to a still earlier date is welcome.
> Please find attached the manuscript page with colophon.
> See third line ??????????.
> Also see the use of avagraha to do vicCeda of sandhi in the commentary
> above the verse lines.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 8:23 PM, Harry Spier <hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dipak Bhattacharya raises a point I've wondered about.
>> 1) Why wasn't (until recently) avagraha used to resolve this kind of
>> ambiguity.
>> 2)  Is avagraha only a written sign or is it some kind of pause in spoken
>> Sanskrit
>> 3) How far back does avagraha go.  To Panini, pre-Panini, post-Panini ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Harry Spier
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 12:02 AM, Dipak Bhattacharya <
>> dipak.d2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> As for the original question of Mr. Harry Spier in some publications an
>>> avagraha is put to indicate a coalesced/elided ? and two for two such ?s.
>>> One has ???s????? for *may? adeyam* and ???ss????? for *may? ?deyam*.
>>>
>>> I did not see the latter in manuscripts.
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> DB
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 10:45 PM, Harry Spier <
>>> hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear list members,
>>>>
>>>> I need to show to some non-sanskritists that given a Sanskrit phrase in
>>>> devanagari, that how you put in the word breaks in the transliteration can
>>>> result in phrases with very different meanings.
>>>>
>>>> Can any of the list members give examples of short sentences in simple
>>>> sanskrit in devanagari that when the words are split  differently in the
>>>> transliteration give grammatically correct Sanskrit sentences but produce
>>>> Sanskrit phrases with  "radically" different meanings.
>>>>
>>>> For my purposes simple Sanskrit sentences are better than more
>>>> complicated Sanskrit from the literature.  And sentences that give very
>>>> different meanings depending on how the words are broken up are better than
>>>> more subtle differences.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Harry Spier
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>>>> http://listinfo.indology.info
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>> http://listinfo.indology.info
>>
>
>
>
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> www.sanskritworld.in
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From dipak.d2004 at gmail.com  Mon Feb  9 17:47:02 2015
From: dipak.d2004 at gmail.com (Dipak Bhattacharya)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 15 23:17:02 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Examples of very ambiguous devanagari Sanskrit	sentences
In-Reply-To: <CAPW7aQFDKB44i=9TSp34OgMd5Ujoj4vFP1OjqF6r3cokgcHBuQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Dear Mr. Spier and other colleagues,
I spoke of the double avagraha as not noted by me in mss. The single one is
common there.
The avagraha was known to the padapaathakaara,Paa.nini and the
Rk-Praati;saakhya. These were orally composed; hence the avagraha was a
linguistic element that was uttered, at least orally indicated, but not a
mere written sign like the apostrophe in the Roman scripts. As as I
remember Renou remarked on its pronunciation. That might have been a
negative feature like a pause but an oral feature and by no means a written
sign alone. I must find out somehow Renou's remark.
Those who are aware of Renou's remark may kindly comment.
Best
DB

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 8:23 PM, Harry Spier <hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dipak Bhattacharya raises a point I've wondered about.
> 1) Why wasn't (until recently) avagraha used to resolve this kind of
> ambiguity.
> 2)  Is avagraha only a written sign or is it some kind of pause in spoken
> Sanskrit
> 3) How far back does avagraha go.  To Panini, pre-Panini, post-Panini ?
>
> Thanks,
> Harry Spier
>
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 12:02 AM, Dipak Bhattacharya <dipak.d2004 at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> As for the original question of Mr. Harry Spier in some publications an
>> avagraha is put to indicate a coalesced/elided ? and two for two such ?s.
>> One has ???s????? for *may? adeyam* and ???ss????? for *may? ?deyam*.
>>
>> I did not see the latter in manuscripts.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> DB
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 10:45 PM, Harry Spier <hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Dear list members,
>>>
>>> I need to show to some non-sanskritists that given a Sanskrit phrase in
>>> devanagari, that how you put in the word breaks in the transliteration can
>>> result in phrases with very different meanings.
>>>
>>> Can any of the list members give examples of short sentences in simple
>>> sanskrit in devanagari that when the words are split  differently in the
>>> transliteration give grammatically correct Sanskrit sentences but produce
>>> Sanskrit phrases with  "radically" different meanings.
>>>
>>> For my purposes simple Sanskrit sentences are better than more
>>> complicated Sanskrit from the literature.  And sentences that give very
>>> different meanings depending on how the words are broken up are better than
>>> more subtle differences.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Harry Spier
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>>> http://listinfo.indology.info
>>>
>>
>>
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From tatiana.oranskaia at uni-hamburg.de  Mon Feb  9 20:07:06 2015
From: tatiana.oranskaia at uni-hamburg.de (tatiana.oranskaia)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 15 21:07:06 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Scans of chapters from 'Naukar,	Rajput and Sepoy' by D. Kolff
Message-ID: <20150209210706.42551kf6vzisj4ve@webmail.rrz.uni-hamburg.de>

Dear colleague who needed scans of some chapters from this (see Re)  
book by Kolff,

Do you still need them? What chapters?

Best
Tatiana Oranskaia

---
Prof. Dr. Tatiana Oranskaia
Abteilung f?r Kultur und Geschichte Indiens und Tibets
Asien-Afrika-Institut
Universit?t Hamburg
Alsterterrasse 1, 1. OG re.
20534 Hamburg

Tel.: 040 42838 3387/85
Fax: 040 42838 6944
tatiana.oranskaia at uni-hamburg.de










From McComas.Taylor at anu.edu.au  Mon Feb  9 23:33:25 2015
From: McComas.Taylor at anu.edu.au (McComas Taylor)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 15 23:33:25 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Alternating syllables in Vedic recitation
Message-ID: <1423524804166.25029@anu.edu.au>


>From my colleague Alan Rumsey:


------


I am working on a paper in which I want to refer to a
practice in India I recall  hearing about, whereby pupils learning to
the Vedas sit in pairs and recite one syllable at a time, alternating
back and forth between them. Do you know of such a practice? If so, do
you know of any published accounts of it that you could refer me to?


The reason I am intested is in connection with a paper I am writing on forms of dialogue and the way they figure in the performance of 'monologic' texts. The alternating-syllables method of performance involving two speakers is common in Native South America, as discussed by Greg Urban in his 1986 article
'Ceremonial Dialogues in South America' (https://www.sas.upenn.edu/~gurban/pdfs/Urban-Ceremonial_Dialogues_in_South_America.pdf<https://www.sas.upenn.edu/%7Egurban/pdfs/Urban-Ceremonial_Dialogues_in_South_America.pdf>)

Please respond to Prof Rumsey  offline at:

Alan.Rumsey at anu.edu.au

---

Thanks in advance

McComas





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From caf57 at cam.ac.uk  Tue Feb 10 09:22:27 2015
From: caf57 at cam.ac.uk (C.A. Formigatti)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 15 09:22:27 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Examples of very ambiguous devanagari Sanskrit sentences
In-Reply-To: <mailman.55.1423501215.3334.indology_list.indology.info@list.indology.info>
Message-ID: <095c19d14222b1170ed9a73e957e2fbb@cam.ac.uk>

Dear list members,

Although many colleagues more qualified than me already answered to 
Harry Spier's request, I would like to add a few remarks, above all to 
Dermot Killingley's insightful reply, and to Dhaval Patel's answer.

> But the practice of writing spaces in devanagari i=
> s itself relatively
> recent. I haven't any firm evidence, but I understand it came in with 
> prin=
> ting, around 1800. So
> the demand to write spaces in roman only where they would be written in 
> de=
> vanagari is not
> supported by ancient tradition. The rule for both is the same: write 
> space=
> s where you can.

Actually, the practice of leave blank spaces in Brahmi-derived scripts 
to disambiguate the meaning is attested in manuscripts well before 
1800?and in inscriptions as well. In order to answer the question as to 
when the use of blanks or the practice of using the avagraha started, 
one has to take into account many different factors, for instance the 
use of different type of scripts and not only nagari, the function of 
the text etc. For instance, in manuscripts written in Nepalaksara you 
may find different practices, according to the type of manuscript and 
the text(s) it contains. For instance, in relatively recent manuscripts 
(17th-19th century) you might find that in order to disambiguate the 
meaning, even the sandhi is not always applied, often in manuscripts 
containing Buddhist texts written by Newar scribes, i.e. manuscripts 
written in a specific cultural milieu for a specific readership. 
Moreover, the use of the avagraha is not always consistent, and you can 
find it alongside forms written simply in scriptio continua (the latter 
case occurs more often). This remarks might not apply, for instance, to 
Jaina manuscripts written in the Jaina nagari, to Kashmirian manuscripts 
in Sarada or even more to South Indian manuscripts in Grantha or 
Malayalam.

> Let's fix the earliest date when avagraha made appearance.
> Randomly picking up my manuscript copies shows that avagraha was
> prevalent in 1574 vikrama saMvat (around 1497-98 AD roughly) for sure.
> So, it is not too modern a phenomenon.

A very useful book about this topic is K. Einicke's Korrektur, 
Differenzierung und Abkuerzung in indischen Inschriften und 
Handschriften. However, in order to assess with certainty when the 
different signs and symbols started to be used, one needs a very wide 
set of data, which was not the purpose of this study. And again, the 
introduction and use of the avagraha might depend on the script.

> Also see the use of avagraha to do vicCeda of sandhi in the commentary
> above the verse lines.

This is a different type of sign, with a different function, namely 
viccheda, as correctly stated. It occurs more often in manuscripts than 
one would suppose, and in fact there is a whole range of signs with this 
functions used in manuscripts written in different scripts, not only in 
nagari. Again, I would refer to K. Einicke's study.

Best wishes,

Camillo Formigatti





From Naomi.Appleton at ed.ac.uk  Tue Feb 10 09:30:14 2015
From: Naomi.Appleton at ed.ac.uk (APPLETON Naomi)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 15 09:30:14 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Spalding Symposium on Indian Religions
Message-ID: <D2CC1654-1A25-42DA-82EA-685164C5E1BB@ed.ac.uk>

Dear Colleagues,

A reminder that booking for the Spalding Symposium on Indian Religions 2015 is open. If you follow the link below you can register and pay, either as a residential guest (?190 including a room for two nights and all meals) or a non-residential guest (?65, no accommodation, all meals). A variety of day-rate options are also available. Please note the last date for booking as a residential guest is FRIDAY 6th MARCH (subject to availability).

bit.ly/SpaldingSymposium<http://bit.ly/SpaldingSymposium>

The Symposium will be held in Edinburgh, UK, 10th-12th April 2015, and will have the theme "dialogue". Professors Uma Chakravarti and Stephen Berkwitz will be our keynote speakers, supplemented by an impressive range of papers from other scholars. More information, including a draft programme, can be found on our website www.spaldingsymposium.org<http://www.spaldingsymposium.org/>, and queries can be directed to myself as convenor: naomi.appleton at ed.ac.uk<mailto:naomi.appleton at ed.ac.uk>.

With best wishes,
Naomi
--------------------------------
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Chancellor's Fellow in Religious Studies
School of Divinity, University of Edinburgh
naomi.appleton at ed.ac.uk<mailto:naomi.appleton at ed.ac.uk>

http://naomiappleton.wordpress.com
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From wujastyk at gmail.com  Tue Feb 10 12:09:09 2015
From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 15 13:09:09 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] BBC radio programme on Ashoka
Message-ID: <CAKdt-Ce-TCFn0DWW_3kA3xhXMmjd1a=tEpHp+G=q5JrQvrzoAA@mail.gmail.com>

In Our Time: Ashoka the Great 05 Feb 15 - Melvyn Bragg and his guests,
including Richard Gombrich, discuss the Indian Emperor Ashoka. Active in
the 3rd century BC, Ashoka conquered almost all of the landmass covered by
modern-day India, creating the largest empire South Asia had ever known.
With Jessica Frazier, Naomi... on In Our Time with TuneIn. #RealRadio

http://tun.in/tgFWyY

Dominik Wujastyk, from Android phone.


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From gruenen at sub.uni-goettingen.de  Tue Feb 10 13:49:03 2015
From: gruenen at sub.uni-goettingen.de (Gruenendahl, Reinhold)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 15 13:49:03 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] GRETIL update #456
Message-ID: <044C4CE033BD474EBE2ACACE8E4B1D94B9986FD9@UM-excdag-a02.um.gwdg.de>


GRETIL is pleased to be able to report the following addition(s) to its collection:


Parivara: PTS/Dhammakaya edition, annotated and plain text:
http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm#Pariva


Udana: PTS/Dhammakaya edition, annotated and plain text:
http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm#Udana



__________________________________________________________________________

"GRETIL is intended as a cumulative register of the numerous download sites for electronic texts in Indian languages." (from the 2001 "mission statement")

GRETIL - Goettingen Register of Electronic Texts in Indian Languages:

http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm






From pf8 at soas.ac.uk  Tue Feb 10 15:13:23 2015
From: pf8 at soas.ac.uk (Peter Flugel)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 15 15:13:23 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] 15th Annual Jaina Lecture & 17th Jaina Studies Workshop at SOAS 19-20 March 2015
Message-ID: <CAF+JJr=yHYLie5KmxCiWTbH3d-ukf1BOSgEZZb_8ZVRvv58zOQ@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Friends,

Please find below the programme of the 17th Jaina Studies Workshop at SOAS
on *Jaina Hagiography and Biography* on 19-20 March 2015 to which anyone
interested is invited.

The workshop will commence on 19 March at 6pm with the 15th Annual Jain
Lecture which will be delivered by Prof Alexis Sanderson (All Souls
College, University of Oxford) who will speak on *The Jaina Appropriation
and Adaptation of ?aiva Ritual: The Case of P?dliptas?ri?s
Nirv??akalik?**.* The
lecture is followed by a Vegan Reception at 7.30.

The event is free for all. Voluntary donations are welcome!

See: http://www.soas.ac.uk/jainastudies/events/jaina-tantra/

With Best Wishes

Yours

Peter


17th Jaina Studies Workshop - Jaina Tantra
[image: IMG-Jaina Tantra]

19th century Image of an apsar??, ??ntin?tha Jaina Mandira, C?ru/Rajasthan
(Photo: P.F. 2014)

*Date:* 20 March 2015*Time:* 9:00 AM

*Finishes:* 20 March 2015*Time:* 6:00 PM

*Venue:* Brunei Gallery*Room:* Brunei Gallery Lecture Theatre

*Type of Event:* Workshop

The 15th Annual lecture given by Professor Alexis Sanderson (All Souls,
Oxford University) on The Jaina Appropriation and Adaptation of ?aiva
Ritual: The Case of P?dliptas?ri?s Nirv??akalik?
takes place on Thursday, 19 March at 6pm.  Further details
<http://www.soas.ac.uk/jainastudies/events/jaina-tantra/19mar2015-the-jaina-appropriation-and-adaptation-of-aiva-ritual--the-case-of-pdliptasris-nirvakalik.html>


Registration

This workshop is free and open to all. Registration is required. *Online
Registration*
<https://docs.google.com/a/soas.ac.uk/forms/d/1SFnnLaV2wjh_i6M9AkMn9u9wwiAaSm2XN1tfR55Zkfk/viewform>


*Programme*TimeDescription09.00Tea and Coffee*First Session: Textual
Studies*09.15*Paul Dundas* (University of Edinburgh, Scotland)
*Tantra Without ?Tantrism?: The Quotidian Jain Mantra According to Somasena
Bha???raka*09.45*Jagat Ram* Bhattacharyya (Shantiniketan, India)
*Tantric Elements in the Original Pra?navy?kara?a? A Study*10.15*Ellen
Gough* (Yale University, USA)
*The Digambara S?rimantra and the Tantricization of Jain Image Consecration*
10.45Tea & Coffee*Second Session: Jaina Tantra & Meditation*11.15*Shugan
Chand Jain* (International Summer School for Jain Studies, New Delhi)
*Peculiarities of Jaina Yoga as depicted in Jn??n?rn?ava by ?ubhacandra
(1003-1068 A.D.)*11.45*Christopher Key Chapple* (Loyola Marymount
University, Los Angeles, USA)
*The Five Great Elements (pa?ca mah?bh?ta) in Jaina Meditation
Manuals*12.15*Sama??
Pratibh?praj??* (SOAS, University of London & Jain Vi?va Bh?rat? Ladnun)
*Tantric Elements in Prek?a-Meditation*12.45Group Photo13.00Lunch: Brunei
Gallery Suite*Third Session: Tantric Elements in Jaina Ritual*14.00*Michael
Slouber* (Western Washington University, USA)
*Mundane Matters: Sex and Violence in Early Medieval Jain Tantra*14.30*Peter
Fl?gel* (SOAS, University of London)
*Digambara Jaina Divination Rituals in Coastal Kar????ka*15.00Tea &
Coffee*Fourth
Session: Tantra in Hinduism and Jainism*15.30*John E. Cort* (Denison
University, USA)
*Reading Gorakhn?th through a Jain Lens: Jain Receptions of the N?ths in
Pre-Colonial North India*16.00*Olle Qvarnstr?m* (University of Lund, Sweden)
*Tantra in Practice: How to Convert a King*16.30Brief Break*Roundtable*16.45

Addressing the question:

*"In the 19th century, many Indian social and religious reformers
differentiated 'custom and rituals' from 'true religion'. Is this
distinction still relevant for lived Jainism today?"*

In the Chair: *John E. Cort* (Denison University, USA)

Featuring:

   - *Ashok Jain* (Department of Physics, Indian Institute of Technology,
   Roorkee
   - *Ashok Jain* (Department of Botany, Gwalior University)
   - *Anupam Jain* (Government Autonomous Holkar Science College, Indore)
   - *Bhattaraka Charukirti* (Shri Jain Matha Jain Kashi Mudbidri)
   - *Chakresh Jain* (Jaypee Institute of Information Technology, New Delhi)
   - *D.C. Jain* (Vardhman Mahavir Medical College & Safdarjang Hospital,
   New Delhi)
   - *Kokila H. Shah* (Department of Philosophy, Ramniranjan Jhunjhunwala
   College, Mumbai)
   - *Parasmal Agarwal Jain* (Oklahoma State University, Stillwater &
   Udaipur)
   - *Sanjeev Sogani* (Gyan Sagar Science Foundation, New Delhi)
   - *Vimal Kumar Jain* (Bhabha Atomic Research Centre Trombay, Mumbai)

18.00  Final Remarks

*Organiser:* Centres & Programmes Office

*Contact email:* centres at soas.ac.uk

*Contact Tel:* +44 (0)20 7898 4893

*Sponsor:* SOAS Centre of Jaina Studies, SOAS Faculty of Arts & Humanities,
Gyan Sagar Science Foundation, JivDaya Foundation


-- 

-- 
Dr Peter Fl?gel
Chair, Centre of Jaina Studies
Department of the Study of Religions
Faculty of Arts and Humanities
School of Oriental and African Studies
University of London
Thornhaugh Street
Russell Square
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From caf57 at cam.ac.uk  Tue Feb 10 15:59:33 2015
From: caf57 at cam.ac.uk (C.A. Formigatti)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 15 15:59:33 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Das Ch. "The Sacred and Ornamental Characters of Tibet"
In-Reply-To: <mailman.66.1422723617.20734.indology_list.indology.info@list.indology.info>
Message-ID: <a7ff5d49527a7055b2d11dfdc3a51f0e@cam.ac.uk>

Dear members of the list,

I was looking for the following article in the JASB (1888), but on 
archive.org I found only the second volume of this year:

Das, Ch.: The Sacred and Ornamental Characters of Tibet. In: Journal of 
the Asiatic
Society of Bengal. Calcutta, Vol. 57, Nr. 1, 1888, S. 41-48.

Could please help me with it? Does any of you have access to a digital 
copy of the first 1888 volume?

Thanks a lot,

Camillo Formigatti





From christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be  Tue Feb 10 16:03:21 2015
From: christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be (Christophe Vielle)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 15 17:03:21 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Two findings related to the history of chess/caturanga
In-Reply-To: <9F2E1483-91B6-40A0-A500-8D756F753978@uclouvain.be>
Message-ID: <53C5BDFC-6704-4AB7-9C3A-39E421E40F9F@uclouvain.be>

Dear List,

I am glad to inform you that

1?) the "shatranj" and Kerala catura?ga moving of the elephant is well represented in the 9th c. Rudra?a?s K?vy?la?k?ra 5.16, which citra I propose to understand like this (sorry for the squares) :

ye      n?      n?      dh?     n?      v?      dh?     r?

A1      B9      B18   C26    B3     D11    C20    E28

n?      dh?      v?     r?       dh?     r?       r?       jan

B5      C13     D22   E30    C7     E15     E24    F32

ki?     n?      n?      ?a?   n?      ka?    ?a?   te

A17     B25    B2      C10   B19    D27    C4     E12

n?       ?a?    ka?    te      ?am    te       te       ja?

B21     C29     D6      E14    C23   E31     E8     F16


contra Jacobi (1896), Macdonell (JRAS 1898) or Rajendran (1998), but taking into account the "non-chess" understanding of the stanza by Gerow's Glossary of Indian figures of Speech (1971, pp. 180-181) and Lienhard's Classical Poetry (Hist Ind Lit vol. 3,  pp. 144-145), two references kindly drawn to my attention by Alesandro Battistini (Un. La Sapienza, Roma).

2?) Alessandro Battistini has himself found another 9th citra of the horse-moving (in addition to Rudra?a?s K?vy?la?k?ra 5.15 one) : it is Ratn?kara's Haravijaya (*) 43.145-146. I quote him:

 If you construct 145 in this way (I give the correct reading, contained in the footnote), you derive stanza 146 (the so called prast?ra, derived stanza) by moving as a horse on the chessboard. The last syllable of 146 (sit) is left out. I have written in bold the first 4 ak?aras, in order sahas?di). Both the stanzas have their own meaning.

bh?  se    ddh?   ta     tra    ta     na      n? 
s?    di     m?      y?    da    se     vi       t?
s?    sa    ha       sta    ta    y?     ??      nta
s?    r?     hi        ta     sa    mi    dyu     t? 

(*) http://ia700702.us.archive.org/0/items/Kavya_Mala_Series_Of_Nirnaya_Sagar_Press/KavyamalaVol_22-HaravijayaOfRajanakaRatnakara1890.pdf

Best wishes,
Christophe Vielle

and thanks again to Peter Wyzlic for providing me with a copy of Rajendran's article :

Le 5 f?vr. 2015 ? 15:47, Christophe Vielle <christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be> a ?crit :

> Dear List,
> 
> I would like to confront the interpretation of C. Rajendran
> ?Catura?ga movements described in Rudra?a?s K?vy?la?k?ra?, Adyar Library Bulletin 62 (1998), pp. 99-107 
> with the explanation of the same passage (*) by H. Jacobi,   
> ?Ueber zwei ?ltere Erw?hnungen des Schachspiels in der Sanskrit-Litteratur?,  Zeitschrift der Deutschen Morgenl?ndischen Gesellschaft 50 (1896), pp. 227-233 (cf. Kleine Schriften, ?d. Bernhard K?lver,Wiesbaden : Steiner, 1970, t. 1, pp. 540-546)
> http://menadoc.bibliothek.uni-halle.de/dmg/periodical/titleinfo/62900
> 
> However, even C. Rajendran himself is unable to provide me with a (.pdf) copy of  his article. 
> Would it be possible that someone has a scan of this Adyar Library Bulletin article (that I should also forward to his author).
> Thank you in advance,
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Christophe Vielle
> 
> (*) See the 1886 ed. Kavya Mala Series vol. 2
> http://ia700702.us.archive.org/0/items/Kavya_Mala_Series_Of_Nirnaya_Sagar_Press/KavyamalaVol_02-KavyalankaraOfRudrata1886.pdf
> ???????????????????
> Christophe Vielle
> Louvain-la-Neuve
> 
> _______________________________________________
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???????????????????
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From pf8 at soas.ac.uk  Tue Feb 10 16:22:07 2015
From: pf8 at soas.ac.uk (Peter Flugel)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 15 16:22:07 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Jaina Tantra 19-20 March 2015 at SOAS
Message-ID: <CAF+JJrnYW643Xx9-chr9BUAeJaYRXZ8zN-P--tYiNuHycFmj=g@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Friends,

Please find below the programme of the 17th Jaina Studies Workshop at SOAS
on *Jaina Tantra* on 19-20 March 2015 to which anyone interested is invited.

The workshop will commence on 19 March at 6pm with the 15th Annual Jain
Lecture which will be delivered by Prof Alexis Sanderson (All Souls
College, University of Oxford) who will speak on *The Jaina Appropriation
and Adaptation of ?aiva Ritual: The Case of P?dliptas?ri?s
Nirv??akalik?**.* The
lecture is followed by a Vegan Reception at 7.30.

The event is free for all. Voluntary donations are welcome!

See: http://www.soas.ac.uk/jainastudies/events/jaina-tantra/

With Best Wishes

Yours

Peter


17th Jaina Studies Workshop - Jaina Tantra
[image: IMG-Jaina Tantra]

19th century Image of an apsar??, ??ntin?tha Jaina Mandira, C?ru/Rajasthan
(Photo: P.F. 2014)

*Date:* 20 March 2015*Time:* 9:00 AM

*Finishes:* 20 March 2015*Time:* 6:00 PM

*Venue:* Brunei Gallery*Room:* Brunei Gallery Lecture Theatre

*Type of Event:* Workshop

The 15th Annual lecture given by Professor Alexis Sanderson (All Souls,
Oxford University) on The Jaina Appropriation and Adaptation of ?aiva
Ritual: The Case of P?dliptas?ri?s Nirv??akalik?
takes place on Thursday, 19 March at 6pm.  Further details
<http://www.soas.ac.uk/jainastudies/events/jaina-tantra/19mar2015-the-jaina-appropriation-and-adaptation-of-aiva-ritual--the-case-of-pdliptasris-nirvakalik.html>


Registration

This workshop is free and open to all. Registration is required. *Online
Registration*
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*Programme*TimeDescription09.00Tea and Coffee*First Session: Textual
Studies*09.15*Paul Dundas* (University of Edinburgh, Scotland)
*Tantra Without ?Tantrism?: The Quotidian Jain Mantra According to Somasena
Bha???raka*09.45*Jagat Ram* Bhattacharyya (Shantiniketan, India)
*Tantric Elements in the Original Pra?navy?kara?a? A Study*10.15*Ellen
Gough* (Yale University, USA)
*The Digambara S?rimantra and the Tantricization of Jain Image Consecration*
10.45Tea & Coffee*Second Session: Jaina Tantra & Meditation*11.15*Shugan
Chand Jain* (International Summer School for Jain Studies, New Delhi)
*Peculiarities of Jaina Yoga as depicted in Jn??n?rn?ava by ?ubhacandra
(1003-1068 A.D.)*11.45*Christopher Key Chapple* (Loyola Marymount
University, Los Angeles, USA)
*The Five Great Elements (pa?ca mah?bh?ta) in Jaina Meditation
Manuals*12.15*Sama??
Pratibh?praj??* (SOAS, University of London & Jain Vi?va Bh?rat? Ladnun)
*Tantric Elements in Prek?a-Meditation*12.45Group Photo13.00Lunch: Brunei
Gallery Suite*Third Session: Tantric Elements in Jaina Ritual*14.00*Michael
Slouber* (Western Washington University, USA)
*Mundane Matters: Sex and Violence in Early Medieval Jain Tantra*14.30*Peter
Fl?gel* (SOAS, University of London)
*Digambara Jaina Divination Rituals in Coastal Kar????ka*15.00Tea &
Coffee*Fourth
Session: Tantra in Hinduism and Jainism*15.30*John E. Cort* (Denison
University, USA)
*Reading Gorakhn?th through a Jain Lens: Jain Receptions of the N?ths in
Pre-Colonial North India*16.00*Olle Qvarnstr?m* (University of Lund, Sweden)
*Tantra in Practice: How to Convert a King*16.30Brief Break*Roundtable*16.45

Addressing the question:

*"In the 19th century, many Indian social and religious reformers
differentiated 'custom and rituals' from 'true religion'. Is this
distinction still relevant for lived Jainism today?"*

In the Chair: *John E. Cort* (Denison University, USA)

Featuring:

   - *Ashok Jain* (Department of Physics, Indian Institute of Technology,
   Roorkee
   - *Ashok Jain* (Department of Botany, Gwalior University)
   - *Anupam Jain* (Government Autonomous Holkar Science College, Indore)
   - *Bhattaraka Charukirti* (Shri Jain Matha Jain Kashi Mudbidri)
   - *Chakresh Jain* (Jaypee Institute of Information Technology, New Delhi)
   - *D.C. Jain* (Vardhman Mahavir Medical College & Safdarjang Hospital,
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   - *Kokila H. Shah* (Department of Philosophy, Ramniranjan Jhunjhunwala
   College, Mumbai)
   - *Parasmal Agarwal Jain* (Oklahoma State University, Stillwater &
   Udaipur)
   - *Sanjeev Sogani* (Gyan Sagar Science Foundation, New Delhi)
   - *Vimal Kumar Jain* (Bhabha Atomic Research Centre Trombay, Mumbai)

18.00  Final Remarks

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From emstern at verizon.net  Tue Feb 10 20:02:56 2015
From: emstern at verizon.net (Elliot Stern)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 15 15:02:56 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Examples of very ambiguous devanagari Sanskrit	sentences
In-Reply-To: <54D8C587.20015.11FB1C7@dermot.grevatt.force9.co.uk>
Message-ID: <0A2A111C-3B8A-4D46-9422-5A0A9D2286B0@verizon.net>

Dear Dermot,

You are of course right that my response was not on target. Some of the earlier responses led me away from the specific focus of your question.

I don?t see, however, that Martin Gansten?s response met your requirement:

sa mene na and sam enena are distinct in the usual roman transcription, but they are also distinct in the usual printed devanagari:


? ???? ?        ??????

In case your system doesn?t read this devanagari, here is the same as transcribed into roman:

sa mene na           samenena

Cheers!

Elliot

Elliot M. Stern
552 South 48th Street
Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029
United States of America
telephone: 215-747-6204
mobile: 267-240-8418
emstern at verizon.net

> On 09 Feb  2015, at 09:34, dermot at grevatt.force9.co.uk wrote:
> 
> Dear Elliott,
> 
> Thank you for your contribution below. But that example (?sveto) is ambiguous whether you
> write it in roman or devanagari. The original request was for sentences that are ambiguous in
> devanagari but not in roman. Martin Gansten's example from BU 4.3.1, sa mene na / sam
> enena, fulfils the requirement, because the space between sa and mene can be written in
> roman though not in devanagari. But Matthew Kapstein's example ekonAviMzati / eko nA
> viMzati doesn't fulfil the requirement, because the spaces can be written in devanagari as
> well as in roman.
> 
> I notice that you follow the practice of only writing spaces in roman where they are possible in
> devanagari, e.g.  dhavatityekasmadeva rather than  dhavatity ekasmad eva. As far as I know
> this is a fairly recent practice; the older practice is to write spaces in roman where they are
> possible--that is, wherever a letter doesn't belong to two words because of sandhi. I have
> sometimes been rebuked for following this practice, on the grounds that I should transcribe
> the devanagari exactly. But the practice of writing spaces in devanagari is itself relatively
> recent. I haven't any firm evidence, but I understand it came in with printing, around 1800. So
> the demand to write spaces in roman only where they would be written in devanagari is not
> supported by ancient tradition. The rule for both is the same: write spaces where you can.
> 
> This means that in devanagari, though less often than in roman, editors of texts make
> judgments which guide the reader to one or other way of understanding the utterance: e.g. sa
> mene na or sam enena in BU 4.3.1. This is not a matter of variants in the text itself, but only
> two ways of interpreting it, since the text is neither of the above, but only samenena.
> 
> If anyone can help with more precise observations, I'd be grateful.
> 
> Dermot Killingley
> 
> On 8 Feb 2015 at 16:40, Elliot Stern wrote:
> 
> Here's an example as explained in nyayakaika:
> 
> yatha ?sveto dhavatityekasmadeva vakyadarthadvayamavagamyate ?suklo nirektiti ca
> kauleyaka ito druta gacchatiti ca
> 
> 
> 
> Elliot M. Stern
> 552 South 48th Street
> Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029
> United States of America
> telephone: 215-747-6204
> mobile: 267-240-8418
> emstern at verizon.net
> 
> 
>    On 08 Feb 2015, at 15:25, Matthew Kapstein <mkapstei at uchicago.edu> wrote:
> 
>    well, there's always the famous prahelikaa verse:
>    ekona vi?sati stria  snanartha sarayu gata |  vi?sati pratiyata ca eko
>    vyaghrea bhakita
> 
>    where it all changes if you read:
>    eko  na
> 
>    Matthew
> 
>    Matthew Kapstein
>    Directeur d'?tudes,
>    Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes
> 
>    Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies,
>    The University of Chicago
> 
> 
>    _______________________________________________
>    INDOLOGY mailing list
>    INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>    http://listinfo.indology.info
> 
> 
> --
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> 9, Rectory Drive,
> Gosforth,
> Newcastle upon Tyne NE3 1XT
> Phone (0191) 285 8053
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From wujastyk at gmail.com  Wed Feb 11 11:49:19 2015
From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 15 12:49:19 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Mahabharata retold on Twitter ...!
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      Financial Times

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 *Sanskrit* epic Mahabharata to be retold on Twitter
<https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2c8e24f4-b126-11e4-9331-00144feab7de.html&ct=ga&cd=CAEYACoUMTU2NDk0OTM0MTg0ODQ5Njg5MTUyGjFkMzU2NTMzY2U1MzkxNmI6Y29tOmVuOlVT&usg=AFQjCNGC9INSuUgyJ-L2daANxhwV1ArA4A>
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From hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com  Wed Feb 11 14:12:56 2015
From: hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com (Harry Spier)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 15 09:12:56 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Examples of very ambiguous devanagari Sanskrit	sentences
In-Reply-To: <0A2A111C-3B8A-4D46-9422-5A0A9D2286B0@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CAPW7aQHYHSvq=HqWivBWOAck5V6Qk99FAQMKiUh3-oaTPdVcNw@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you to
Patrick Olivelle, Gerard Huet, Lubomir Ondracka, Rein Ende,Matthew
Kapstein, Martin Gansten, Antonia Ruppel, Elliot Stern, Madhav Deshpande,
Dipak Bhattacharya, Dhaval Patel, Tim Cahill, Dermot Killingley, C.A.
Formigatti,

For the very informative and erudite answers

Harry Spier


On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Elliot Stern <emstern at verizon.net> wrote:

> Dear Dermot,
>
> You are of course right that my response was not on target. Some of the
> earlier responses led me away from the specific focus of your question.
>
> I don?t see, however, that Martin Gansten?s response met your requirement:
>
> sa mene na and sam enena are distinct in the usual roman transcription,
> but they are also distinct in the usual printed devanagari:
>
>
> ? ???? ?        ??????
>
> In case your system doesn?t read this devanagari, here is the same as
> transcribed into roman:
>
> sa mene na           samenena
>
> Cheers!
>
> Elliot
>
> Elliot M. Stern
> 552 South 48th Street
> Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029
> United States of America
> telephone: 215-747-6204
> mobile: 267-240-8418
> emstern at verizon.net
>
> On 09 Feb  2015, at 09:34, dermot at grevatt.force9.co.uk wrote:
>
> Dear Elliott,
>
> Thank you for your contribution below. But that example (?sveto) is
> ambiguous whether you
> write it in roman or devanagari. The original request was for sentences
> that are ambiguous in
> devanagari but not in roman. Martin Gansten's example from BU 4.3.1, sa
> mene na / sam
> enena, fulfils the requirement, because the space between sa and mene can
> be written in
> roman though not in devanagari. But Matthew Kapstein's example
> ekonAviMzati / eko nA
> viMzati doesn't fulfil the requirement, because the spaces can be written
> in devanagari as
> well as in roman.
>
> I notice that you follow the practice of only writing spaces in roman
> where they are possible in
> devanagari, e.g.  dhavatityekasmadeva rather than  dhavatity ekasmad eva.
> As far as I know
> this is a fairly recent practice; the older practice is to write spaces in
> roman where they are
> possible--that is, wherever a letter doesn't belong to two words because
> of sandhi. I have
> sometimes been rebuked for following this practice, on the grounds that I
> should transcribe
> the devanagari exactly. But the practice of writing spaces in devanagari
> is itself relatively
> recent. I haven't any firm evidence, but I understand it came in with
> printing, around 1800. So
> the demand to write spaces in roman only where they would be written in
> devanagari is not
> supported by ancient tradition. The rule for both is the same: write
> spaces where you can.
>
> This means that in devanagari, though less often than in roman, editors of
> texts make
> judgments which guide the reader to one or other way of understanding the
> utterance: e.g. sa
> mene na or sam enena in BU 4.3.1. This is not a matter of variants in the
> text itself, but only
> two ways of interpreting it, since the text is neither of the above, but
> only samenena.
>
> If anyone can help with more precise observations, I'd be grateful.
>
> Dermot Killingley
>
> On 8 Feb 2015 at 16:40, Elliot Stern wrote:
>
> Here's an example as explained in nyayakaika:
>
> yatha ?sveto dhavatityekasmadeva vakyadarthadvayamavagamyate ?suklo
> nirektiti ca
> kauleyaka ito druta gacchatiti ca
>
>
>
> Elliot M. Stern
> 552 South 48th Street
> Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029
> United States of America
> telephone: 215-747-6204
> mobile: 267-240-8418
> emstern at verizon.net
>
>
>    On 08 Feb 2015, at 15:25, Matthew Kapstein <mkapstei at uchicago.edu>
> wrote:
>
>    well, there's always the famous prahelikaa verse:
>    ekona vi?sati stria  snanartha sarayu gata |  vi?sati pratiyata ca eko
>    vyaghrea bhakita
>
>    where it all changes if you read:
>    eko  na
>
>    Matthew
>
>    Matthew Kapstein
>    Directeur d'?tudes,
>    Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes
>
>    Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies,
>    The University of Chicago
>
>
>    _______________________________________________
>    INDOLOGY mailing list
>    INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>    http://listinfo.indology.info
>
>
> --
> Dermot Killingley
> 9, Rectory Drive,
> Gosforth,
> Newcastle upon Tyne NE3 1XT
> Phone (0191) 285 8053
>
>
>
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From steiner at staff.uni-marburg.de  Wed Feb 11 14:43:31 2015
From: steiner at staff.uni-marburg.de (Roland Steiner)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 15 15:43:31 +0100
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_New_publication_(Translation_of_Mok=E1=B9=A3op=C4=81ya_V,_Upa=C5=9B=C4=81ntiprakara=E1=B9=87a)?=
Message-ID: <20150211154331.Horde.FDJNUs3PeNcRZ9jXDk7b_A3@home.staff.uni-marburg.de>


Dear colleagues,

I am happy to announce the release of the following book:

Der Weg zur Befreiung. Das F?nfte Buch. Das Buch ?ber das  
Zurruhekommen. ?bersetzung von Roland Steiner (Anonymus Casmiriensis:  
Mok?op?ya. Historisch-kritische Gesamtausgabe. Herausgegeben unter der  
Leitung von Walter Slaje. ?bersetzung. Teil 4). [Akademie der  
Wissenschaften und der Literatur, Mainz. Ver?ffentlichungen der  
Indologischen Kommission]. Wiesbaden: Harrassowitz 2015. xx, 614 pp. 1  
Abbildung. ISBN: 978-3-447-10282-7


German description:

Der "Weg zur Befreiung" (Mok?op?ya) ist ein im 10. Jh. in Kaschmir  
entstandener Sanskrit-Text, der im Kern auf einen anonymen Autor  
zur?ckgeht, sich in verschiedenen Fassungen ?ber Indien verbreitet hat  
und vor allem in der sp?ten, vielfach entstellten Vulgata-Rezension  
unter dem Namen "Yogav?si??ha" bekannt geworden ist. Inhaltlich  
handelt es sich um eine philosophische Welterkl?rung, die der Weise  
Vasi??ha dem K?nigssohn R?ma in einem langen Gespr?ch darlegt, dessen  
Hauptaussage lautet, da? nichts, was als Objekt und als Subjekt der  
eigenen Erkenntnis erscheint, tats?chlich existiert, sondern alles  
nichts als "Geist" (cit) ist. Ziel dieser didaktisch aufgebauten  
Unterweisung ist die Selbstbefreiung aus dem leidvollen  
Daseinskreislauf, die nicht zu einem R?ckzug aus der Welt f?hren mu?,  
sondern dem "schon zu Lebzeiten Befreiten" (j?vanmukta) ein  
intentionslos-t?tiges, leidfreies Leben in der Welt erm?glicht. Dabei  
wechseln philosophische Abschnitte mit kunstvoll erz?hlten  
Geschichten, die bestimmte philosophische Aussagen veranschaulichen  
sollen.

Mit dem "Buch ?ber das Zurruhekommen" wird eine mit Anmerkungen  
versehene philologische ?bersetzung des aus insgesamt 4299 Strophen  
bestehenden 5. Buches des Mok?op?ya nach dem Wortlaut der  
historisch-kritischen Gesamtausgabe vorgelegt. Sie enth?lt elf  
Erz?hlungen, darunter eine originelle Version der bekannten  
Prahl?da-Legende, die in den Dienst der im Mok?op?ya vertretenen  
Philosophie gestellt wird. St?rker als in den vorangegangenen B?chern  
werden nun auch Meditationstechniken er?rtert. Von besonderem  
literarischem Reiz ist au?erdem die Erz?hlung ?ber den Asketen G?dhi,  
der Vi??u bittet, eine Manifestation seiner "Illusionskraft" (m?y?)  
erfahren zu d?rfen, und daraufhin phantastische Bewu?tseinszust?nde  
durchl?uft, die sich nachtr?glich in der "realen" Welt best?tigen  
lassen.

* * *

With best regards,
Roland Steiner

Martin-Luther-Universit?t Halle-Wittenberg
Seminar f?r Indologie
Emil-Abderhalden-Str. 9
D-06099 Halle (Saale)
Tel.: +49-345-55-23656
Fax.: +49-345-55-27211
URL: http://www.indologie.uni-halle.de/
E-Mail: roland.steiner at indologie.uni-halle.de






From caf57 at cam.ac.uk  Wed Feb 11 17:13:31 2015
From: caf57 at cam.ac.uk (C.A. Formigatti)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 15 17:13:31 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Das Ch. "The Sacred and Ornamental Characters of	Tibet"
In-Reply-To: <mailman.63.1423674031.28156.indology_list.indology.info@list.indology.info>
Message-ID: <057ca3532e8d1e14960208ab5cf7afbe@cam.ac.uk>

Dear members of the list,

I have now found a copy of the article by Das "The Sacred and Ornamental 
Characters of Tibet."

Many thanks to everybody who replied to my query off-list.

Best wishes,

Camillo Formigatti





From arlogriffiths at hotmail.com  Wed Feb 11 20:31:31 2015
From: arlogriffiths at hotmail.com (Arlo Griffiths)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 15 20:31:31 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] professorships advertised at EPHE, Sciences religieuses
Message-ID: <DUB114-W207C585C68433581B0CB6CA5250@phx.gbl>

Dear colleagues,

The attached announcement of vacancies at Religious Studies section of the ?cole pratique des hautes ?tudes (Paris), among which a direction d'?tude (professorship) of Indian Buddhism, was just brought to my attention. This position is for the succession of Prof. Dr. Cristina Scherrer-Schaub, who will retire at the end of this academic year.

Best wishes,

Arlo Griffiths
?cole fran?aise d'Extr?me-Orient
 		 	   		  


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From mmdesh at umich.edu  Thu Feb 12 07:03:59 2015
From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 15 12:33:59 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] 444 Marathi books available for free downloading
Message-ID: <CAB3-dzc_2WBnaUcBY9010ihmO+sfLoQykBajeaTO4HDmrZd3bQ@mail.gmail.com>

The Maharashtra Rajya Sahitya & Samskriti Mandal has now made 444 of its
Marathi book publications available for free download:

https://msblc.maharashtra.gov.in/download

For those who read Marathi, this is a treasure of rare and out-of-print
books.  In the past, I had to struggle to find many of these books in
bookstores in Pune.  Now they are a click away.  Hope you find something of
value in this collection.

Madhav Deshpande
(currently in Pune)

-- 
Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
The University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48104-1608, USA


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From dermot at grevatt.force9.co.uk  Thu Feb 12 14:28:42 2015
From: dermot at grevatt.force9.co.uk (dermot at grevatt.force9.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 15 14:28:42 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Examples of very ambiguous devanagari Sanskrit	sentences
In-Reply-To: <0A2A111C-3B8A-4D46-9422-5A0A9D2286B0@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <54DCB89A.17703.12BC7A7@dermot.grevatt.force9.co.uk>

Dear Elliot,

Thank you for your comments. Thanks also to Camillo Formigatti for his precise (though 
necessarily incomplete) observations on indications of word division in manuscript practice.

As you point out, I was wrong to say that    /  fulfils the requirement (Harry Spiers's, 
not mine) of a sentence that is ambiguous in devanagari but not in roman. 

With best wishes,

Dermot
,
On 10 Feb 2015 at 15:02, Elliot Stern wrote:

Dear Dermot,

You are of course right that my response was not on target. Some of the earlier responses 
led me away from the specific focus of your question.

I don't see, however, that Martin Gansten's response met your requirement:

sa mene na and sam enena are distinct in the usual roman transcription, but they are also 
distinct in the usual printed devanagari:


   

In case your system doesn't read this devanagari, here is the same as transcribed into 
roman:

sa mene na samenena

Cheers!

Elliot


Elliot M. Stern
552 South 48th Street
Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029
United States of America
telephone: 215-747-6204
mobile: 267-240-8418
emstern at verizon.net


    On 09 Feb 2015, at 09:34, dermot at grevatt.force9.co.uk wrote:

    Dear Elliott,
    
    Thank you for your contribution below. But that example (?sveto) is ambiguous whether 
    you
    write it in roman or devanagari. The original request was for sentences that are 
    ambiguous in
    devanagari but not in roman. Martin Gansten's example from BU 4.3.1, sa mene na / 
    sam
    enena, fulfils the requirement, because the space between sa and mene can be written 
    in
    roman though not in devanagari. But Matthew Kapstein's example ekonAviMzati / eko 
    nA
    viMzati doesn't fulfil the requirement, because the spaces can be written in devanagari 
    as
    well as in roman.
    
    I notice that you follow the practice of only writing spaces in roman where they are 
    possible in
    devanagari, e.g. dhavatityekasmadeva rather than dhavatity ekasmad eva. As far as I 
    know
    this is a fairly recent practice; the older practice is to write spaces in roman where they 
    are
    possible--that is, wherever a letter doesn't belong to two words because of sandhi. I 
    have
    sometimes been rebuked for following this practice, on the grounds that I should 
    transcribe
    the devanagari exactly. But the practice of writing spaces in devanagari is itself 
    relatively
    recent. I haven't any firm evidence, but I understand it came in with printing, around 
    1800. So
    the demand to write spaces in roman only where they would be written in devanagari is 
    not
    supported by ancient tradition. The rule for both is the same: write spaces where you 
    can.
    
    This means that in devanagari, though less often than in roman, editors of texts make
    judgments which guide the reader to one or other way of understanding the utterance: 
    e.g. sa
    mene na or sam enena in BU 4.3.1. This is not a matter of variants in the text itself, but 
    only
    two ways of interpreting it, since the text is neither of the above, but only samenena.
    
    If anyone can help with more precise observations, I'd be grateful.
    
    Dermot Killingley
    
    On 8 Feb 2015 at 16:40, Elliot Stern wrote:
    
    Here's an example as explained in nyayakaika:
    
    yatha ?sveto dhavatityekasmadeva vakyadarthadvayamavagamyate ?suklo nirektiti ca
    kauleyaka ito druta gacchatiti ca
    
    
    
    Elliot M. Stern
    552 South 48th Street
    Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029
    United States of America
    telephone: 215-747-6204
    mobile: 267-240-8418
    emstern at verizon.net
    
    
    On 08 Feb 2015, at 15:25, Matthew Kapstein <mkapstei at uchicago.edu> wrote:
    
    well, there's always the famous prahelikaa verse:
    ekona vi?sati stria snanartha sarayu gata | vi?sati pratiyata ca eko
    vyaghrea bhakita
    
    where it all changes if you read:
    eko na
    
    Matthew
    
    Matthew Kapstein
    Directeur d'?tudes,
    Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes
    
    Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies,
    The University of Chicago
    
    
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From gruenen at sub.uni-goettingen.de  Fri Feb 13 08:26:57 2015
From: gruenen at sub.uni-goettingen.de (Gruenendahl, Reinhold)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 15 08:26:57 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] GRETIL update #457
Message-ID: <044C4CE033BD474EBE2ACACE8E4B1D94B99881E0@UM-excdag-a02.um.gwdg.de>


GRETIL is pleased to be able to report the following addition(s) to its collection:


Itivuttaka: PTS/Dhammakaya edition, annotated and plain text:
http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm#Itivutt


Kathavatthu: PTS/Dhammakaya edition, annotated and plain text:
http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm#Kathavat



__________________________________________________________________________

"GRETIL is intended as a cumulative register of the numerous download sites for electronic texts in Indian languages." (from the 2001 "mission statement")

GRETIL - Goettingen Register of Electronic Texts in Indian Languages:

http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm







From hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com  Fri Feb 13 16:53:09 2015
From: hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com (Harry Spier)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 15 11:53:09 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Scan of R. K. Kamats edition of Gur-caritra needed
Message-ID: <CAPW7aQFW=24t0eKxKqDRAXCVPOESM8oWOfBi65oShuwiSUkcLA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear list members,

If anyone has a scan of R.K. Kamat's edition of the Guru-caritra first
published in 1937 could they please forward it to me.  I need a version
that includes his preface.  (I've seen some reprints that don't include
this).

Thanks,
Harry Spier


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From shrinsaha at gmail.com  Sat Feb 14 08:45:47 2015
From: shrinsaha at gmail.com (Niranjan Saha)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 15 14:15:47 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Regarding Job Prospect (SOAS, Univ. London)
Message-ID: <CAHuz+CqvNNWtKAxR8cKD3uSDOFxbwRYm+sYOMV4aQgOBSumj-A@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Colleagues and Professors,

Namaskar and a belated new year wish!

I'm writing to you all as I'm looking for openings on receiving my PhD
recently from SOAS (University of London) on a topic entitled *Philosophy
of Advaita Vedanta according to Madhusudana Sarasvati's Gudharthadipika*
after taking my M.A. (Indian Philosophy), M.Phil. (Philosophy/Indian
Philosophy/Advaita Vedanta) from the department of Philosophy, University
of Madras and B.A. Hons in Philosophy (with Sanskrit and History as pass
papers) from Barasat Govt. College (University of Calcutta).

I'd be grateful to receiving your suggestions and guidance at this stage of
my academic pursuit.

Please find attached my latest CV.

With best regards, and sincerely yours,
Niranjan Saha, Kolkata 67


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From shrinsaha at gmail.com  Sat Feb 14 10:03:14 2015
From: shrinsaha at gmail.com (Niranjan Saha)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 15 15:33:14 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] An Appeal for the Late Professor B.K.Matilal
Message-ID: <CAHuz+CpGztVcGR=sr0A613kbyzZPSHQuRAVodhar9mV3-Q9qVg@mail.gmail.com>

Respected Colleagues and Professors,

I'm writing to you all just to pass on a personal message that I received
from Smt Karavai Matilal, wife of the late Professor B.K.Matilal (Oxford),
who I met recently in her Kolkata residence.

To commemorate Professor B.K.Matilal's 25th death anniversary due June next
year; moreover, to give him due respect for his invaluable contribution to
Indian Philosophy etc., Smt Matilal has expressed her personal desire to
organise seminars in Kolkata, Oxford etc., and more specially, to start a
part-time Professorship at Oxford. To make it possible, Smt Matilal,75,
seeks co-operation from like-minded people/organisations (like ICPR etc.;
Sri Pranab Mukherjee, the Honourable Prsident of India, it is learned, was
in personal terms with Professor Matilal).

In this connection, Shri Tamal K. Matilal, son of Professor B.K.Matilal,
may be reached at (tamalmatilal at gmail.com).

Thanking you,
Sincerely yours,
Niranjan Saha, Kolkata


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From michael.williams at univie.ac.at  Sat Feb 14 11:36:16 2015
From: michael.williams at univie.ac.at (Michael Williams)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 15 12:36:16 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Electronic issues of The Pandit
Message-ID: <047720d0c3e09beb7ef4db32a5b117c4.squirrel@webmail.univie.ac.at>

Dear colleagues,

I am trying to find electronic editions of "The Pandit" which contain
Raghunatha Siromani's Padarthatattvanirupana along with the commentaries
of Ramabhadra and Raghudeva. I have some of the issues from DLI, but as
far as I can see the following are not available there:

No. 26 (1904)
28 (1906)
34 (1912)
35 (1913)
36 (1914)

If anyone knows of any digitised editions, I would be very grateful if you
could contact me off-list.

Best regards,

Michael Williams,
University of Vienna








From dr.rupalimokashi at gmail.com  Sun Feb 15 14:33:01 2015
From: dr.rupalimokashi at gmail.com (Dr. Rupali Mokashi)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 15 20:03:01 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] south indian inscriptions vol V
Message-ID: <CAK2tbYwVb_V-hQtZyoiosFggfqdcPuE5_gftFPfVWb5kWhwZ1A@mail.gmail.com>

I need pdf s of Annual Report on Epigraphy for the year 1919-20Annual
Report on Epigraphy for the year 1919-20 and south indian inscriptions vol V
regards
Rupali Mokashi
http://rupalimokashi.wordpress.com/


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From rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk  Sun Feb 15 18:48:33 2015
From: rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk (Rohana Seneviratne)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 15 18:48:33 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] south indian inscriptions vol V
In-Reply-To: <CAK2tbYwVb_V-hQtZyoiosFggfqdcPuE5_gftFPfVWb5kWhwZ1A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <263AADEB1C61774CB059F93BD3A6940B148AD1@MBX06.ad.oak.ox.ac.uk>

Dear Dr. Rupali,

I uploaded them just now to archive.org. Hope these are the works you're looking for.

https://archive.org/details/SouthIndianInscriptionsVolume5


https://archive.org/details/AnnualReportOnEpigraphy191520


Best Wishes,
Rohana
------------------------------------------------
Rohana Seneviratne
DPhil Student in Sanskrit
The Oriental Institute
Faculty of Oriental Studies
University of Oxford
Pusey Lane, Oxford
OX1 2LE
United Kingdom

Email: rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk
Web: http://users.ox.ac.uk/~pemb3753/
________________________________
From: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] on behalf of Dr. Rupali Mokashi [dr.rupalimokashi at gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 2:33 PM
To: indology at list.indology.info
Subject: [INDOLOGY] south indian inscriptions vol V

I need pdf s of Annual Report on Epigraphy for the year 1919-20Annual Report on Epigraphy for the year 1919-20 and south indian inscriptions vol V
regards
Rupali Mokashi
http://rupalimokashi.wordpress.com/


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From wujastyk at gmail.com  Sun Feb 15 23:21:05 2015
From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 15 00:21:05 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Government officials in Pondicherry around 1690-1699
Message-ID: <CAKdt-Cfjwv6Aix6=2N9fFs_khha8c1+i48+-CACqF6yf7-9sXg@mail.gmail.com>

?If you can help this gentleman with his research into the French history
of Pondicherry in the seventeenth century, please contact him directly.
?
?DW?


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From: Simon Dessain <sjf at dessain.org>
Date: 15 February 2015 at 21:45
Subject: Possible indexes to assist research into Government officials in
Pondicherry around 1690-1699


Hi,

I was researching indexes which might help my wife's research. I am getting
a 404 on the one at the French Institute at Pondicherry, though I have
already emailed them for advice.

I wonder whether you could guide me to sources that might be able to help.
the area of research is outlined below.


My wife Katy is travelling from Scotland to Pondicherry next month.
>
> She understands that her direct ancestor Daniel De Lacherois was a
> Government official, possibly Governor, in Pondicherry in the period
> 1690-1699.
>
>
> https://books.google.ie/books?id=03zGAjtTnTQC&pg=PA183&lpg=PA183&dq=daniel+delacherois+pondicherry&source=bl&ots=GXI8VP0xQ5&sig=7N47lRdmhaiAlOcLhK9O_ML_HB0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=XurgVKjvKceQ7Ab134GYAg&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=daniel%20delacherois%20pondicherry&f=false
>
> I wondered if you could connect her with a historian with knowledge of
> that period. Or could she arrange to come and see what records might exist
> in the library?
>
> Simon Dessain
> Lawton, Arbroath, Angus DD11 4RU
> +44 1241 830217
> @simdess
>
>
>


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From drdhaval2785 at gmail.com  Mon Feb 16 04:09:19 2015
From: drdhaval2785 at gmail.com (dhaval patel)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 15 09:39:19 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Articles on Ashtadhyayi request
Message-ID: <CADSGPzUhN19my9xT-TVPOYh=z98yT4d-pAiau__unU4-RYxEhQ@mail.gmail.com>

Respected scholars,

I am looking for these two articles.

If anyone can send these articles off list, I would be grateful.


1. Prof. George Cardona 'Puurvatraasiddham and aa'sryaatsiddham' in
'Studies in Sanskrit Grammar, published by DK Printworld, 2012, pages
123-162.

2. Dr. Peter Scharf. 'Rule Selection in A.s.taadhyaayii or Is Panini's
grammar mechanistic?' in the same volume, page nos: 319-350.

-- 
Dr. Dhaval Patel, I.A.S
District Development Officer, Rajkot
www.sanskritworld.in


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From drdhaval2785 at gmail.com  Mon Feb 16 06:50:46 2015
From: drdhaval2785 at gmail.com (dhaval patel)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 15 12:20:46 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Articles on Ashtadhyayi request
In-Reply-To: <CADSGPzUhN19my9xT-TVPOYh=z98yT4d-pAiau__unU4-RYxEhQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADSGPzVmG3+3RcUFZyG=hEq9ViwUoqfdVX8CMGsFDQAAfzzUow@mail.gmail.com>

Respcected scholars,

I have received the required articles off-list by a learned member of this
wonderful community.

Thank you all.


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From michaels at asia-europe.uni-heidelberg.de  Mon Feb 16 12:04:30 2015
From: michaels at asia-europe.uni-heidelberg.de (Michaels, Axel)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 15 13:04:30 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] two questions
Message-ID: <D1079B5E.2074C%michaels@asia-europe.uni-heidelberg.de>

Dear all,

In preparing the editio princeps of the so called Wright Chronicle, a Chronicle in Nepali translated by Daniel Wright in 1877, we (Manik Bajracharya and me) came across two apparently ?aiva phrases which do not make much sense to us:

This ascetic built another house near the place, invoked Svatantra-m?lam?rti-?rddh?mn?ya and continued to perform the daily worship of Pa?upatin?tha

The ascetic, too, caused the t???amantra together with Mah?k?lokta-agam?rtha-n?tyal?l?-prasann?rtha to be inscribed on the parasol, and this unprecedented parasol was then offered to Pa?upatin?tha.

Can anybody help us in understanding it (better)?

Best,
Axel Michaels


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From jean-luc.chevillard at univ-paris-diderot.fr  Mon Feb 16 17:58:23 2015
From: jean-luc.chevillard at univ-paris-diderot.fr (Jean-Luc Chevillard)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 15 23:28:23 +0530
Subject: =?utf-8?B?W0lORE9MT0dZXSBWYeG5reG5rWXhuLt1dHR1ICjgrrXgrp/gr43grp/gr4bgrrTgr4HgrqTgr43grqTgr4EpIGZvbnQgbmV3bHkgYXZhaWxhYmxlLCB0aGFua3MgdG8gRWxtYXIgS25pcHJhdGg=?=
Message-ID: <54E22FBF.7030908@univ-paris-diderot.fr>

Wonderful news for the lovers of ancient Indian scripts.

A new font is available, created by Elmar Kniprath, who lives in Hamburg.

See: "http://www.aai.uni-hamburg.de/indtib/Material.html".

Now everyone can write in ???????????!?

Cheers

-- Jean-Luc Chevillard (Pondy)



"https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard"

"https://plus.google.com/u/0/113653379205101980081/posts/p/pub"

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From wujastyk at gmail.com  Mon Feb 16 18:23:54 2015
From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 15 19:23:54 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Canadian post-doc fellowship opportunity in the history of science in India and globalism
Message-ID: <CAKdt-CeRGKpXWgSnzwjfAsNN9PqD8eMVFA2XEw1_Ofn1DFVbtw@mail.gmail.com>

?See the Cosmolocal website <http://cosmolocal.org/about-us/> for a better
idea of what this project is about.  The advertisement isn't particularly
explicit or clear.  ?This is an excellent opportunity for the right person.


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From palaniappa at aol.com  Mon Feb 16 20:24:53 2015
From: palaniappa at aol.com (palaniappa at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 15 15:24:53 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] two questions
In-Reply-To: <D1079B5E.2074C%michaels@asia-europe.uni-heidelberg.de>
Message-ID: <14b9410a2a7-6753-20f0d@webstg-m03.mail.aol.com>


At least for the second item, I may have a possible suggestion. It is possible you may have a dance style being referred to by the term agam??rtha which seems to have undergone some changes going from Tamil into Sanskrit either due to different forms of hypercorrection or possible transcription errors.  The source word in the Tamil tradition is akam??rkkam (transliterated in Tamil Lexicon style) which is a hybrid made up of Tamil akam and Sanskrit m??rga. If one were to transliterate it based on pronunciation, it could be transliterated as aham??rga or agam??rga. (The classical Tamil text, the Akan??????????u (transliterated in Tamil Lexicon style) is variously transliterated as the Ahan??????????u and the Agan??????????u.) The Bharat??r???ava of Nandike??vara transliterates this as aham??rga. (See pp. 34 and 137) in the attachment. In the same attachment, Mah??k??la is said to be invoked at the entrance to the stage during the first performance or installation of the stage (pp. 472-474). 


South Indian Inscriptions vol. 23, inscription no. 306 transliterates it as agam??rgga.


Was the ascetic from the Tamil country? What is the date of the text?


Regards,
Palaniappan




-----Original Message-----
From: Michaels, Axel <michaels at asia-europe.uni-heidelberg.de>
To: indology <indology at list.indology.info>
Sent: Mon, Feb 16, 2015 6:05 am
Subject: [INDOLOGY] two questions


 
Dear all,  
 
  
 
 
In preparing the editio princeps of the so called Wright Chronicle, a Chronicle in Nepali translated by Daniel Wright in 1877, we (Manik Bajracharya and me) came across two apparently ??aiva phrases which do not make much sense to us:  
 
  
 
 
   This ascetic built another house near the place, invoked Svatantra-m??lam??rti-??rddh??mn??ya and continued to perform the daily worship   of Pa??upatin??tha   
   
   
 
 
   
 The ascetic, too, caused the t????????amantra together with Mah??k??lokta-agam??rtha-n???tyal??l??-prasann??rtha to be inscribed on the parasol, and this unprecedented parasol was then offered to Pa??upatin??tha. 
  
   
   
 
 
  
Can anybody help us in understanding it (better)?  
 
 
  
 
 
Best, 
 
Axel Michaels 
 

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From j.jurewicz at uw.edu.pl  Mon Feb 16 20:37:42 2015
From: j.jurewicz at uw.edu.pl (Joanna Jurewicz)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 15 21:37:42 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] request for a paper
Message-ID: <CAAPrgbqoKPRjDy2e_kZrQu=0NJdD9A8JakDdaYiri_gSMvsMPQ@mail.gmail.com>

Dear All,

I am looking for the paper of Toshifumi Goto "Zur Lehre ?ANDilyas: zwischen
BrAhmaNa and upaniSad". It was published in: Nalini Balbir, George-Jeans
Pinault. "Langue, style et structure dans le monde indien: Cetenaire de
Louis Renou. Paris, Honore Campion 1996

I would be very grateful if anyone  could send me the copy of it.

 Best regards,

 Joanna Jurewicz.


---
dr hab. Joanna Jurewicz, prof. UW
Katedra Azji Po?udniowej /Chair of South Asia
Wydzia? Orientalistyczny / Faculty of Oriental Studies
Uniwersytet Warszawski /University of Warsaw
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From palaniappa at aol.com  Mon Feb 16 20:45:21 2015
From: palaniappa at aol.com (palaniappa at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 15 15:45:21 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] two questions
In-Reply-To: <D1079B5E.2074C%michaels@asia-europe.uni-heidelberg.de>
Message-ID: <14b94235eaf-6753-21016@webstg-m03.mail.aol.com>



I am sorry my email client somehowmessed up the diacritics. Let me try again with some additional informationtoo.
 
At least for the second item, Imay have a possible suggestion. It is possible you may have a dance style beingreferred to by the term agam??rtha which seems to have undergone somechanges going from Tamil into Sanskrit either due to different forms ofhypercorrection or possible transcription errors.  The source word in theTamil tradition is akam????rkkam(transliterated in Tamil Lexicon style) which is a hybrid made up of Tamil akamand Sanskrit m????rga. If one were totransliterate akam????rkkam based onpronunciation, it could be transliterated as aham??rga or agam????rga. (The classical Tamil text, the Akan????????????u (transliterated in Tamil Lexicon style) is variouslytransliterated as the Ahan????????????u  andthe Agan????????????u .) TheBharat????r???ava of Nandike??vara transliterates this as aham????rga. (See pp. 34 and 137) in the attachment. In the same attachment, Mah????k????la is said to beinvoked at the entrance to the stage during the first performance orinstallation of the stage (pp. 472-474). 
 
South Indian Inscriptions vol. 23,inscription no. 306 of 1190-91 CE transliterates the term as agam????rgga in the summary although the inscription has thevariants in Tamil as akam?????kam and [akam?????]kkam.
 
A???iy??rkkunall??r,the commentator of the Cilappatik??ram refers to akam??rkkam in hiscommentary on Cilappatik??ram 3.12.
 
Was the ascetic from the Tamilcountry? What is the date of the text?
 
Regards,
Palaniappan



-----Original Message-----
From: Michaels, Axel <michaels at asia-europe.uni-heidelberg.de>
To: indology <indology at list.indology.info>
Sent: Mon, Feb 16, 2015 6:05 am
Subject: [INDOLOGY] two questions


 
Dear all,  
 
  
 
 
In preparing the editio princeps of the so called Wright Chronicle, a Chronicle in Nepali translated by Daniel Wright in 1877, we (Manik Bajracharya and me) came across two apparently ??aiva phrases which do not make much sense to us:  
 
  
 
 
   This ascetic built another house near the place, invoked Svatantra-m??lam??rti-??rddh??mn??ya and continued to perform the daily worship   of Pa??upatin??tha   
   
   
 
 
   
 The ascetic, too, caused the t????????amantra together with Mah??k??lokta-agam??rtha-n???tyal??l??-prasann??rtha to be inscribed on the parasol, and this unprecedented parasol was then offered to Pa??upatin??tha. 
  
   
   
 
 
  
Can anybody help us in understanding it (better)?  
 
 
  
 
 
Best, 
 
Axel Michaels 
 

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From palaniappa at aol.com  Mon Feb 16 20:52:43 2015
From: palaniappa at aol.com (palaniappa at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 15 15:52:43 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] two questions
In-Reply-To: <D1079B5E.2074C%michaels@asia-europe.uni-heidelberg.de>
Message-ID: <14b942a1ceb-6753-21091@webstg-m03.mail.aol.com>


I am sorry it looks like the fonts did not come through right the second time too. So I am attaching the post as a PDF.


Please discard the two earlier posts.



Regards,
Palaniappan
 



-----Original Message-----
From: Michaels, Axel <michaels at asia-europe.uni-heidelberg.de>
To: indology <indology at list.indology.info>
Sent: Mon, Feb 16, 2015 6:05 am
Subject: [INDOLOGY] two questions


 
Dear all,  
 
  
 
 
In preparing the editio princeps of the so called Wright Chronicle, a Chronicle in Nepali translated by Daniel Wright in 1877, we (Manik Bajracharya and me) came across two apparently ?aiva phrases which do not make much sense to us:  
 
  
 
 
   This ascetic built another house near the place, invoked Svatantra-m?lam?rti-?rddh?mn?ya and continued to perform the daily worship   of Pa?upatin?tha   
   
   
 
 
   
 The ascetic, too, caused the t???amantra together with Mah?k?lokta-agam?rtha-n?tyal?l?-prasann?rtha to be inscribed on the parasol, and this unprecedented parasol was then offered to Pa?upatin?tha. 
  
   
   
 
 
  
Can anybody help us in understanding it (better)?  
 
 
  
 
 
Best, 
 
Axel Michaels 
 

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From h.arganisjuarez at yahoo.com.mx  Mon Feb 16 22:53:06 2015
From: h.arganisjuarez at yahoo.com.mx (Horacio Francisco Arganis Juarez)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 15 22:53:06 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Somebody know?
Message-ID: <885867713.1982587.1424127186936.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

I am looking for information about this painting.My best.??Dr. Horacio Francisco Arganis Ju?rez
Lic. M.A. Ph. D. Catedr?tico Investigador de la Universidad
Internacional Euroamericana.
Departamento de Filosof?a y Religi?n Comparada.
www.uie.edu.es


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From witzel at fas.harvard.edu  Tue Feb 17 00:29:57 2015
From: witzel at fas.harvard.edu (Michael Witzel)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 15 19:29:57 -0500
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_Atir=C4=81tra_and_Agni=E1=B9=A3=E1=B9=ADoma_rituals_in_Kerala,_March_and_April?=
Message-ID: <4B167655-D89A-4266-B02E-DC6018509021@fas.harvard.edu>

Dear All,

we hear from Kerala that in March and April another two Vedic rituals will be performed by local Nambudiri Brahmins.

We must thank the late Frits Staal for having drawn international attention to them in 1975 and for having spurred local interest as well.
Now we have one such major ritual almost every year. As he himself said shortly before his passing: 

"Atiratrams cannot be stopped now so let us celebrate that as well." 
 
This year there will be a 12 day Atir?tra Agnicayana  ("Athiraathram"), at Edappal in Central Kerala, starting March 20th.
Different from the 2011 Panjal one it will be in the ??val?yana tradition. 

Then there will be an Agni??oma (Soma) ritual, again at  Edappal, on April 20. However it will be celebrated in the Kau??taki style.

Please direct any inquiries to  T. P. Mahadevan, teepee43 at yahoo.com.

Jayantu yaj?akarm??i !

Michael

============
> Michael Witzel
> witzel at fas.harvard.edu
> <www.fas.harvard.edu/~witzel/mwpage.htm>
> Wales Prof. of Sanskrit,
> Dept. of South Asian Studies, Harvard University
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From michaels at asia-europe.uni-heidelberg.de  Tue Feb 17 03:55:13 2015
From: michaels at asia-europe.uni-heidelberg.de (Michaels, Axel)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 15 04:55:13 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] 16th Summer School in Spoken Sanskrit at Heidelberg, Nepali Summer School
Message-ID: <D10879C1.207A4%michaels@asia-europe.uni-heidelberg.de>

Dear Colleagues,

The department of Cultural and Religious History of South Asia (Classical Indology) is again organising:

 *   Summer School in Spoken Sanskrit (Dr. Sadananda Das)

 *   Nepali Intensive Course (Laxmi Nath Shrestha)

from 3rd ? 28th August 2015 at the South Asia Institute, Heidelberg.


More information is available at:
http://www.sai.uni-heidelberg.de/abt/IND/en/summerschool/summerschool.php

We would be very grateful if you could inform your colleagues and students about this opportunity.


--------------------------------------------
Julie Pusch
Sekretariat Kultur- und Religionsgeschichte S?dasiens (Klassische Indologie)
Im Neuenheimer Feld 330, 69120 Heidelberg
Tel. 06221 54-8817, Fax -6338
sek-michaels at uni-heidelberg.de<mailto:sek-michaels at uni-heidelberg.de>
http://www.sai.uni-heidelberg.de/abt/IND/index.php

Mo, Mi, Do 10 ? 12 Uhr, Di 9 ? 12 Uhr & 13 ? 15 Uhr

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From anurupa.n at ifpindia.org  Tue Feb 17 08:51:53 2015
From: anurupa.n at ifpindia.org (Anurupa IFP)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 15 14:21:53 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] ANNOUCEMENT: New publication of the IFP/EFEO, Pondicherry
Message-ID: <43FAA30E45624D39958FFC985EB0B2AA@ifpindia.org>


INSTITUT FRAN?AIS DE PONDICHERY

ECOLE FRAN?AISE D'EXTREME-ORIENT

 

                   JUST RELEASED

 

Saiva Rites of Expiation. A First Edition and Translation of Trilocanasiva's Twelfth-Century Prayascittasamuccaya (With a Transcription of Hr?dayasiva's Prayascittasamuccaya). 

Critically edited & translated by R. Sathyanarayanan with an introduction by Dominic Goodall, Collection Indologie n? 127, Institut Fran?ais de Pondich?ry / Ecole fran?aise d'Extr?me-Orient, 651 p.

Language: Sanskrit, English. 1200 Rs (52 ?).  ISBN: 978-81-8470-203-3 (IFP) / 978-2-85539-218-9 (EFEO).

 

Rites of expiation and reparation (prayascitta) may not seem central to the history of the Mantramarga, but they provide a fascinating angle from which to view the evolution of this broad religious tradition. Instead of focussing on the evolution and philosophical defence of Saiva doctrines, or on the examination of ritual practices and of theories developed to justify and shore up such practices, this study puts the spotlight instead on social dimensions of the religion. 

This book contains a first edition and translation of a South Indian compendium of Saiva expiation rituals compiled by Trilocanasiva, a twelfth-century theologian celebrated for his Siddhantasaravali, a metrical treatise on the Saivasiddhanta that is still traditionally studied in the Tamil-speaking South today. Trilocana does not reveal the sources from which he quotes, many of which are lost to us, but an earlier Northern treatise on the same theme from Malwa by a certain H?dayasiva consists only in large labeled quotations, typically whole chapters, from those sources. A Nepalese palm-leaf manuscript kept in Cambridge that is dated to 1157 ad may be the earliest surviving codex to transmit H?dayasiva's text and we have included a complete transcription of that manuscript as an appendix. A combined quarter-verse-index helps readers to navigate both Trilocana's and H?dayasiva's works.

Our introduction attempts to trace the social developments within the Saivasiddhanta that give context to the evolution of Saiva reparatory rites.

Keywords: Saivism, expiation, ritual, social history, Sanskrit, textual criticism, Dharmasastra

 

About the Editors

Following studies at the Madras Sanskrit College and the University of Madras, R. Sathyanarayanan joined the Pondicherry Centre of the EFEO in 1991 to work on epigraphy. He obtained his doctorate from Pondicherry University in 2003 for his study of the Anandara?gacampu (a romance in prose and verse about the eighteenth-century political diarist Anandara?ga Pi??ai) and has since been working on Saiva literature, notably as co-editor of two other twelfth-century Southern works: the Pa?cavara?astava (Pondicherry 2005) and the Dhyanaratnavali (Karaikkal 2014).

 

After studies in Oxford and in Hamburg, Dominic Goodall passed several years working in Pondicherry, where he was head of the Pondicherry Centre of the ?cole fran?aise d'Extr?me-Orient from 2002 to 2011.  He has published critical editions of Saiva works and of classical Sanskrit poetry (most recently, with Csaba Dezso, the eighth-century Ku??animata of Damodaragupta).  He is currently based in Paris, where he gives lectures on Indian and Cambodian Sanskrit literature at the ?cole pratique des hautes ?tudes (religious science section).

 

To order, contact:

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Ph: +91-413-2231660 / 661. Fax: +91 413-2231605                     Ph: +91-413-2334539. Fax +91-413-2330886

E-mail: library at ifpindia.org                                                     E-mail: shanti at efeo-pondicherry.org



Ms. Anurupa Naik
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French Institute of Pondicherry (IFP)
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From gruenen at sub.uni-goettingen.de  Tue Feb 17 13:42:43 2015
From: gruenen at sub.uni-goettingen.de (Gruenendahl, Reinhold)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 15 13:42:43 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] GRETIL update #458
Message-ID: <044C4CE033BD474EBE2ACACE8E4B1D94B99883FE@UM-excdag-a02.um.gwdg.de>


GRETIL is pleased to be able to report the following addition(s) to its collection:


Suttanipata: PTS/Dhammakaya edition, annotated and plain text:
http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm#Suttanip



__________________________________________________________________________

"GRETIL is intended as a cumulative register of the numerous download sites for electronic texts in Indian languages." (from the 2001 "mission statement")

GRETIL - Goettingen Register of Electronic Texts in Indian Languages:

http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm






From jpo at uts.cc.utexas.edu  Tue Feb 17 16:59:17 2015
From: jpo at uts.cc.utexas.edu (Patrick Olivelle)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 15 10:59:17 -0600
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Fwd: Shelly and Narayana Rao on NPR
In-Reply-To: <32FAFAB6-0155-4D3D-8B4E-793D4902FAE9@austin.utexas.edu>
Message-ID: <5995E517-1220-429F-A12D-D2A2A3901B5A@uts.cc.utexas.edu>

In case any of your have not heard this, the following is a long discussion about the Murty Classical Library by Tom Ashbrook of PBS with Shelly Pollock and Narayana Rao. 

Patrick


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From gthomgt at gmail.com  Tue Feb 17 21:17:13 2015
From: gthomgt at gmail.com (George Thompson)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 15 16:17:13 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Fwd: Shelly and Narayana Rao on NPR
In-Reply-To: <5995E517-1220-429F-A12D-D2A2A3901B5A@uts.cc.utexas.edu>
Message-ID: <CAP1Y1ztR0pJwkn0Y+19bZ5g5iJH0weW=PdnP+sZ+edducY8hKQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Patrick,

It was a nice piece of journalism.  Ashbrook had apparently studied a
little Telegu with Narayana Rao.  I think that this new Murty series is
intriguing and more inclusive.  I hope that it flourishes.

Best to all,

George

On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Patrick Olivelle <jpo at uts.cc.utexas.edu>
wrote:

> In case any of your have not heard this, the following is a long
> discussion about the Murty Classical Library by Tom Ashbrook of PBS with
> Shelly Pollock and Narayana Rao.
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
>
> http://onpoint.wbur.org/2015/02/10/murty-classical-library-indian-literature
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From gthomgt at gmail.com  Tue Feb 17 22:42:12 2015
From: gthomgt at gmail.com (George Thompson)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 15 17:42:12 -0500
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]=09Atir=C4=81tra_and_Agni=E1=B9=A3=E1=B9=ADoma_rituals_in_Kerala,_March_and_April?=
In-Reply-To: <4B167655-D89A-4266-B02E-DC6018509021@fas.harvard.edu>
Message-ID: <CAP1Y1zuG1w1eBH37WN8wzGS8SUWRYUMRF3bNaEYnicd9_8HA-w@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Michael and TP,

Thank you for this news.  May I mention it in our forthcoming volume in
honor of Frits?  I am in the midst of writing an introduction to it.  I
would like to spread the word.

Best wishes to you both.  We all look forward to your reports on recent
Vedic ritual activity.

George

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 7:29 PM, Michael Witzel <witzel at fas.harvard.edu>
wrote:

> *Dear All,*
>
> *we hear from Kerala that in March and April another two Vedic rituals
> will be performed by local Nambudiri Brahmins.*
>
> *We must thank the late Frits Staal for having drawn international
> attention to them in 1975 and for having spurred local interest as well.*
> *Now we have one such major ritual almost every year. As he himself said
> shortly before his passing: *
>
> *"Atiratrams cannot be stopped now so let us celebrate that as well." *
>
> *This year there will be a 12 day Atir?tra Agnicayana  ("Athiraathram"),
> at Edappal in Central Kerala, starting March 20th.*
> *Different from the 2011 Panjal one it will be in the ??val?yana
> tradition. *
>
> *Then there will be an Agni??oma (Soma) ritual, again at  Edappal, on
> April 20. However it will be celebrated in the Kau??taki style.*
>
> *Please direct any inquiries to  T. P. Mahadevan, teepee43 at yahoo.com
> <teepee43 at yahoo.com>.*
>
> *Jayantu yaj?akarm??i !*
>
> *Michael*
>
> ============
>
> Michael Witzel
> witzel at fas.harvard.edu
> <www.fas.harvard.edu/~witzel/mwpage.htm>
> Wales Prof. of Sanskrit,
> Dept. of South Asian Studies, Harvard University
> 1 Bow Street,
> Cambridge MA 02138, USA
>
> phone: 1- 617 - 495 3295, fax 617 - 496 8571;
> direct line:  617- 496 2990
>
>
>
>
>
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From dr.rupalimokashi at gmail.com  Wed Feb 18 12:29:41 2015
From: dr.rupalimokashi at gmail.com (Dr. Rupali Mokashi)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 15 17:59:41 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Landlordism and tenancy in ancient and medieval India as revealed by epigraphical records / by D.C. Sircar.
Message-ID: <CAK2tbYw77FNog2Js7QniQ+gSu5hYtBDeFqkDHO0Tp2JcoNe=Jg@mail.gmail.com>

I need a pdf of Landlordism and tenancy in ancient and medieval India as
revealed by epigraphical records / by D.C. Sircar.
regards
Rupali MOkashi
http://rupalimokashi.wordpress.com/


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From jpo at uts.cc.utexas.edu  Wed Feb 18 12:55:52 2015
From: jpo at uts.cc.utexas.edu (Patrick Olivelle)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 15 06:55:52 -0600
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Landlordism and tenancy in ancient and medieval	India as revealed by epigraphical records / by D.C. Sircar.
In-Reply-To: <CAK2tbYw77FNog2Js7QniQ+gSu5hYtBDeFqkDHO0Tp2JcoNe=Jg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <302706B1-ABCA-431A-A92A-1F52C5B3C430@uts.cc.utexas.edu>

Please share this, if you get a copy.

Patrick Olivelle



On Feb 18, 2015, at 6:29 AM, "Dr. Rupali Mokashi" <dr.rupalimokashi at gmail.com> wrote:

> I need a pdf of Landlordism and tenancy in ancient and medieval India as revealed by epigraphical records / by D.C. Sircar.
> regards
> Rupali MOkashi
> http://rupalimokashi.wordpress.com/
> _______________________________________________
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From francois.voegeli at gmail.com  Wed Feb 18 13:09:53 2015
From: francois.voegeli at gmail.com (Francois Voegeli)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 15 14:09:53 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Landlordism and tenancy in ancient and medieval	India as revealed by epigraphical records / by D.C. Sircar.
In-Reply-To: <302706B1-ABCA-431A-A92A-1F52C5B3C430@uts.cc.utexas.edu>
Message-ID: <6775CC6F-104F-4C7D-B6D2-DCBFEFD353E3@gmail.com>

Indeed! Maybe you could put it on archive.org for the rest of the community?
Thanks in advance.

F. Voegeli

On 18 f?vr. 2015, at 13:55, Patrick Olivelle <jpo at uts.cc.utexas.edu> wrote:

> Please share this, if you get a copy.
> 
> Patrick Olivelle
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 18, 2015, at 6:29 AM, "Dr. Rupali Mokashi" <dr.rupalimokashi at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I need a pdf of Landlordism and tenancy in ancient and medieval India as revealed by epigraphical records / by D.C. Sircar.
>> regards
>> Rupali MOkashi
>> http://rupalimokashi.wordpress.com/
>> _______________________________________________
>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>> http://listinfo.indology.info
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From dr.rupalimokashi at gmail.com  Wed Feb 18 13:10:50 2015
From: dr.rupalimokashi at gmail.com (Dr. Rupali Mokashi)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 15 13:10:50 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Landlordism and tenancy in ancient and medieval India as revealed by epigraphical records / by D.C. Sircar.
In-Reply-To: <6775CC6F-104F-4C7D-B6D2-DCBFEFD353E3@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAK2tbYyKNm-dQUik7o_j+SQd-1zC2Ayke49AODKwwGn=Evr=_w@mail.gmail.com>

hope anyone shares it in the group

On Wed 18 Feb, 2015 6:39 pm Francois Voegeli <francois.voegeli at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Indeed! Maybe you could put it on archive.org for the rest of the
> community?
> Thanks in advance.
>
> F. Voegeli
>
>
> On 18 f?vr. 2015, at 13:55, Patrick Olivelle <jpo at uts.cc.utexas.edu>
> wrote:
>
> Please share this, if you get a copy.
>
> Patrick Olivelle
>
>
>
> On Feb 18, 2015, at 6:29 AM, "Dr. Rupali Mokashi" <
> dr.rupalimokashi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I need a pdf of Landlordism and tenancy in ancient and medieval India as
> revealed by epigraphical records / by D.C. Sircar.
> regards
> Rupali MOkashi
> http://rupalimokashi.wordpress.com/
>  _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
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From karp at uw.edu.pl  Wed Feb 18 13:41:22 2015
From: karp at uw.edu.pl (Artur Karp)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 15 14:41:22 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Landlordism and tenancy in ancient and medieval India as revealed by epigraphical records / by D.C. Sircar.
In-Reply-To: <302706B1-ABCA-431A-A92A-1F52C5B3C430@uts.cc.utexas.edu>
Message-ID: <CAEgrCzAkEC4Y=UeXu9XFHXa+qqWBVwCwLbuRAtAdNSRcNTJX0A@mail.gmail.com>

I join the request --- plz?

Artur Karp

2015-02-18 13:55 GMT+01:00 Patrick Olivelle <jpo at uts.cc.utexas.edu>:

> Please share this, if you get a copy.
>
> Patrick Olivelle
>
>
>
> On Feb 18, 2015, at 6:29 AM, "Dr. Rupali Mokashi" <
> dr.rupalimokashi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I need a pdf of Landlordism and tenancy in ancient and medieval India as
> revealed by epigraphical records / by D.C. Sircar.
> regards
> Rupali MOkashi
> http://rupalimokashi.wordpress.com/
>  _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
>
>
>
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From rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk  Wed Feb 18 14:41:34 2015
From: rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk (Rohana Seneviratne)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 15 14:41:34 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Landlordism and tenancy in ancient and medieval India as revealed by epigraphical records / by D.C. Sircar.
In-Reply-To: <CAEgrCzAkEC4Y=UeXu9XFHXa+qqWBVwCwLbuRAtAdNSRcNTJX0A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <263AADEB1C61774CB059F93BD3A6940B148CE5@MBX06.ad.oak.ox.ac.uk>

Just uploaded it to archive.org. All thanks are indeed due to the DLI.


https://archive.org/details/Landlordism-and-Tenancy-India


Best Wishes,
Rohana
------------------------------------------------
Rohana Seneviratne
DPhil Student in Sanskrit
The Oriental Institute
Faculty of Oriental Studies
University of Oxford
Pusey Lane, Oxford
OX1 2LE
United Kingdom

Email: rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk
Web: http://users.ox.ac.uk/~pemb3753/
________________________________
From: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] on behalf of Artur Karp [karp at uw.edu.pl]
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 1:41 PM
To: Patrick Olivelle
Cc: Dr. Rupali Mokashi; Indology
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Landlordism and tenancy in ancient and medieval India as revealed by epigraphical records / by D.C. Sircar.

I join the request --- plz?

Artur Karp

2015-02-18 13:55 GMT+01:00 Patrick Olivelle <jpo at uts.cc.utexas.edu<mailto:jpo at uts.cc.utexas.edu>>:
Please share this, if you get a copy.

Patrick Olivelle



On Feb 18, 2015, at 6:29 AM, "Dr. Rupali Mokashi" <dr.rupalimokashi at gmail.com<mailto:dr.rupalimokashi at gmail.com>> wrote:

I need a pdf of Landlordism and tenancy in ancient and medieval India as revealed by epigraphical records / by D.C. Sircar.
regards
Rupali MOkashi
http://rupalimokashi.wordpress.com/
_______________________________________________
INDOLOGY mailing list
INDOLOGY at list.indology.info<mailto:INDOLOGY at list.indology.info>
http://listinfo.indology.info


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From drdhaval2785 at gmail.com  Wed Feb 18 14:57:23 2015
From: drdhaval2785 at gmail.com (dhaval patel)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 15 20:27:23 +0530
Subject: =?utf-8?B?W0lORE9MT0dZXSBGd2Q6IFt0ZWNobmljYWwtaGluZGldIOCkheCkguCkl+CljeCksOClh+CknOClgC3gpLngpL/gpKjgpY3gpKbgpYAg4KSt4KS+4KS34KS+LeCkteCkv+CknOCljeCknuCkvuCkqCDgpJXgpYvgpLY=?=
In-Reply-To: <82c44cf5-6229-451b-acd0-403372f2d9c4@googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <CADSGPzV=6zR+Qz4Z9fZbdQfLEbUHri0NsY5ejNjEXU7HYn6YHw@mail.gmail.com>

Respected scholars,

One of my colleague is looking for any English-Hindi Linguistics dictionary
or English-Sanskrit Linguistics dictionary.
She needs it for translating linguistic concepts into Sanskrit, because her
thesis is related to Sanskrit Computational Linguistics.
Any pointer to earlier effort in this field would be welcome.

Online/offline ; scanned-book/text file; glossary/full-fledged dictionary -
anything will do.

Regards,
District Development Officer, Rajkot
www.sanskritworld.in


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From rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk  Wed Feb 18 15:28:00 2015
From: rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk (Rohana Seneviratne)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 15 15:28:00 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Landlordism and tenancy in ancient and medieval India as revealed by epigraphical records / by D.C. Sircar.
In-Reply-To: <263AADEB1C61774CB059F93BD3A6940B148CE5@MBX06.ad.oak.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <263AADEB1C61774CB059F93BD3A6940B148D15@MBX06.ad.oak.ox.ac.uk>

Again a related work.

Datta, Dvijadas. 1931. Landlordism in India. Taraporevala's Indian economic series. Bombay: Taraporevala.

https://archive.org/details/LandlordismInIndia


Best Wishes,
Rohana
------------------------------------------------
Rohana Seneviratne
DPhil Student in Sanskrit
The Oriental Institute
Faculty of Oriental Studies
University of Oxford
Pusey Lane, Oxford
OX1 2LE
United Kingdom

Email: rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk
Web: http://users.ox.ac.uk/~pemb3753/
________________________________
From: Rohana Seneviratne
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 2:41 PM
To: Artur Karp; Patrick Olivelle
Cc: Dr. Rupali Mokashi; Indology
Subject: RE: [INDOLOGY] Landlordism and tenancy in ancient and medieval India as revealed by epigraphical records / by D.C. Sircar.

Just uploaded it to archive.org. All thanks are indeed due to the DLI.


https://archive.org/details/Landlordism-and-Tenancy-India


Best Wishes,
Rohana
------------------------------------------------
Rohana Seneviratne
DPhil Student in Sanskrit
The Oriental Institute
Faculty of Oriental Studies
University of Oxford
Pusey Lane, Oxford
OX1 2LE
United Kingdom

Email: rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk
Web: http://users.ox.ac.uk/~pemb3753/
________________________________
From: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] on behalf of Artur Karp [karp at uw.edu.pl]
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 1:41 PM
To: Patrick Olivelle
Cc: Dr. Rupali Mokashi; Indology
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Landlordism and tenancy in ancient and medieval India as revealed by epigraphical records / by D.C. Sircar.

I join the request --- plz?

Artur Karp

2015-02-18 13:55 GMT+01:00 Patrick Olivelle <jpo at uts.cc.utexas.edu<mailto:jpo at uts.cc.utexas.edu>>:
Please share this, if you get a copy.

Patrick Olivelle



On Feb 18, 2015, at 6:29 AM, "Dr. Rupali Mokashi" <dr.rupalimokashi at gmail.com<mailto:dr.rupalimokashi at gmail.com>> wrote:

I need a pdf of Landlordism and tenancy in ancient and medieval India as revealed by epigraphical records / by D.C. Sircar.
regards
Rupali MOkashi
http://rupalimokashi.wordpress.com/
_______________________________________________
INDOLOGY mailing list
INDOLOGY at list.indology.info<mailto:INDOLOGY at list.indology.info>
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From wujastyk at gmail.com  Wed Feb 18 17:30:35 2015
From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 15 18:30:35 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Wise up to Copyright
Message-ID: <CAKdt-CdDVwMubQP05UkLhg2VwJuPJG6htHbs2cfLK4GiJuSjbw@mail.gmail.com>

Here's a good, clear, short (!) presentation about copyright and writers
here that has just been put out by the ALCS in the UK:

   -
   http://www.alcs.co.uk/Members-information/Wise-up-to-copyright/Copyright2

Note that under the "what if I'm employed" heading, it doesn't mention the
fact that almost all universities waive their rights to the copyright of
their academic staff's writings.


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From H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl  Wed Feb 18 21:15:43 2015
From: H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl (Tieken, H.J.H.)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 15 21:15:43 +0000
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_v=C4=81st=C5=9B=C4=81stra?=
Message-ID: <EA8F815D502BC14097213C5D85BA1C6522C36550@SPMXM07.VUW.leidenuniv.nl>

The Hague, 18 February 2015.


Dear list members,


A history student from Delhi (JNU) presently in Leiden is writing a paper on v?stu??stras as a source of historical studies. I want her at least to know of the ideas such as expressed by Vincent Lef?vre, in his book Commanditaires & artistes en Indu du Sud. Des Pallava aux N?yak (VI-XVIII si?cle). Paris 2006, pp. 95-107 regarding the practical use (or rather, the absence of that) of such texts for the artisans and craftsmen: Briefly, the texts were mainly concerned with rituals; whatever practical information on construction etc. which is there, is there as a by-product of the ritual interest. If artisans refer to these texts they do so to enhance their status.

Unfortunately, the student does not read French. I hope that some of the members of this list are able to suggests some publications in English which deal with these matters.

With kind regards, Herman Tieken



Herman Tieken
University of Leiden
The Netherlands
website: hermantieken.com<http://hermantieken.com/>


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From pahitatta at gmail.com  Wed Feb 18 21:53:48 2015
From: pahitatta at gmail.com (Ales Petrocchi)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 15 21:53:48 +0000
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_v=C4=81st=C5=9B=C4=81stra?=
In-Reply-To: <EA8F815D502BC14097213C5D85BA1C6522C36550@SPMXM07.VUW.leidenuniv.nl>
Message-ID: <CAFWPYfhytxdn4sqPf_eVyNGj+sJY4R=nx-8+Eh5kkoLLc9AL2g@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Herman,
I would suggest  the works by Adam Hardy and the interesting PhD
dissertation by Anna Aleksandra Slaczka  (Leiden, 2006):
*Temple consecration rituals in ancient India: text and archaeology.*
It was published as a book  by Leiden Brill, 2007.
She explores Hindu rituals and the concept of sacred space in Sanskrit
architectural works and provides the translation of non-studied Zaiva texts.
Her research analyses also archaeological sources in India and outside in
order to understand the relation between written sources and material
culture.

I hope it helps,
all the best,
Alessandra.

On 18 February 2015 at 21:15, Tieken, H.J.H. <H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl
> wrote:

>   The Hague, 18 February 2015.
>
>
>  Dear list members,
>
>
>  A history student from Delhi (JNU) presently in Leiden is writing a
> paper on *v?stu??stra*s as a source of historical studies. I want her at
> least to know of the ideas such as expressed by Vincent Lef?vre, in his
> book *Commanditaires & artistes en Indu du Sud. Des Pallava aux N?yak
> (VI-XVIII si**?cle)*. Paris 2006, pp. 95-107 regarding the practical use
> (or rather, the absence of that) of such texts for the artisans and
> craftsmen: Briefly, the texts were mainly concerned with rituals;
> whatever practical information on construction etc. which is there, is
> there as a by-product of the ritual interest. If artisans refer to these
> texts they do so to enhance their status.
>
> Unfortunately, the student does not read French. I hope that some of the
> members of this list are able to suggests some publications in English
> which deal with these matters.
>
> With kind regards, Herman Tieken
>
>
>
>  Herman Tieken
> University of Leiden
> The Netherlands
>  website: hermantieken.com
>
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From jpo at uts.cc.utexas.edu  Wed Feb 18 22:27:07 2015
From: jpo at uts.cc.utexas.edu (Patrick Olivelle)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 15 16:27:07 -0600
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_v=C4=81st=C5=9B=C4=81stra?=
In-Reply-To: <EA8F815D502BC14097213C5D85BA1C6522C36550@SPMXM07.VUW.leidenuniv.nl>
Message-ID: <B27848C3-D8FF-4F86-AF20-9C4A1F1402E3@uts.cc.utexas.edu>

On the general relationship of ??stra to actual artistic productions, there is the two-volume book edited by Anna Dallapiccola, "Shastric Traditions in Indian Arts" -- by Steiner Verlag. A lot of good essays, including two by Shelly Pollock.

Patrick


On Feb 18, 2015, at 3:15 PM, "Tieken, H.J.H." <H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl> wrote:

> The Hague, 18 February 2015.
> 
> Dear list members,
> 
> A history student from Delhi (JNU) presently in Leiden is writing a paper on v?stu??stras as a source of historical studies. I want her at least to know of the ideas such as expressed by Vincent Lef?vre, in his book Commanditaires & artistes en Indu du Sud. Des Pallava aux N?yak (VI-XVIII si?cle). Paris 2006, pp. 95-107 regarding the practical use (or rather, the absence of that) of such texts for the artisans and craftsmen: Briefly, the texts were mainly concerned with rituals; whatever practical information on construction etc. which is there, is there as a by-product of the ritual interest. If artisans refer to these texts they do so to enhance their status.
> Unfortunately, the student does not read French. I hope that some of the members of this list are able to suggests some publications in English which deal with these matters.
> With kind regards, Herman Tieken 
> 
> 
> 
> Herman Tieken
> University of Leiden
> The Netherlands
> website: hermantieken.com
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
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From ssandahl at sympatico.ca  Wed Feb 18 22:31:18 2015
From: ssandahl at sympatico.ca (Stella Sandahl)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 15 23:31:18 +0100
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_v=C4=81st=C5=9B=C4=81stra?=
In-Reply-To: <B27848C3-D8FF-4F86-AF20-9C4A1F1402E3@uts.cc.utexas.edu>
Message-ID: <BLU437-SMTP3907749088BE6556AE9BECBF2C0@phx.gbl>

It can't do any harm in having a look at the Citrasuutra from the ViSNudharmottarapuraaNa. There are at least two English translations. Easily found in the Univ. of Toronto library:
http://onesearch.library.utoronto.ca/
Stella Sandahl

On 2015-02-18, at 11:27 PM, Patrick Olivelle wrote:

> On the general relationship of ??stra to actual artistic productions, there is the two-volume book edited by Anna Dallapiccola, "Shastric Traditions in Indian Arts" -- by Steiner Verlag. A lot of good essays, including two by Shelly Pollock.
> 
> Patrick
> 
> 
> On Feb 18, 2015, at 3:15 PM, "Tieken, H.J.H." <H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl> wrote:
> 
>> The Hague, 18 February 2015.
>> 
>> Dear list members,
>> 
>> A history student from Delhi (JNU) presently in Leiden is writing a paper on v?stu??stras as a source of historical studies. I want her at least to know of the ideas such as expressed by Vincent Lef?vre, in his book Commanditaires & artistes en Indu du Sud. Des Pallava aux N?yak (VI-XVIII si?cle). Paris 2006, pp. 95-107 regarding the practical use (or rather, the absence of that) of such texts for the artisans and craftsmen: Briefly, the texts were mainly concerned with rituals; whatever practical information on construction etc. which is there, is there as a by-product of the ritual interest. If artisans refer to these texts they do so to enhance their status.
>> Unfortunately, the student does not read French. I hope that some of the members of this list are able to suggests some publications in English which deal with these matters.
>> With kind regards, Herman Tieken 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Herman Tieken
>> University of Leiden
>> The Netherlands
>> website: hermantieken.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>> http://listinfo.indology.info
> 
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From rajam at earthlink.net  Thu Feb 19 01:40:45 2015
From: rajam at earthlink.net (rajam)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 15 17:40:45 -0800
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_v=C4=81st=C5=9B=C4=81stra?=
In-Reply-To: <EA8F815D502BC14097213C5D85BA1C6522C36550@SPMXM07.VUW.leidenuniv.nl>
Message-ID: <FE3E3681-1B5A-4FD2-BC99-CBAB284AA1E0@earthlink.net>

Dear Professor Tieken,

Would that student be interested in Tamil sources? If so, please let me know and I?ll send her references that might be useful

Regards,
Rajam


> On Feb 18, 2015, at 1:15 PM, Tieken, H.J.H. <H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl> wrote:
> 
> The Hague, 18 February 2015.
> 
> Dear list members,
> 
> A history student from Delhi (JNU) presently in Leiden is writing a paper on v?stu??stras as a source of historical studies. I want her at least to know of the ideas such as expressed by Vincent Lef?vre, in his book Commanditaires & artistes en Indu du Sud. Des Pallava aux N?yak (VI-XVIII si?cle). Paris 2006, pp. 95-107 regarding the practical use (or rather, the absence of that) of such texts for the artisans and craftsmen: Briefly, the texts were mainly concerned with rituals; whatever practical information on construction etc. which is there, is there as a by-product of the ritual interest. If artisans refer to these texts they do so to enhance their status.
> Unfortunately, the student does not read French. I hope that some of the members of this list are able to suggests some publications in English which deal with these matters.
> With kind regards, Herman Tieken 
> 
> 
> 
> Herman Tieken
> University of Leiden
> The Netherlands
> website: hermantieken.com <http://hermantieken.com/>_______________________________________________
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From klaus.karttunen at helsinki.fi  Thu Feb 19 09:08:07 2015
From: klaus.karttunen at helsinki.fi (Klaus Karttunen)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 15 11:08:07 +0200
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_v=C4=81st=C5=9B=C4=81stra?=
In-Reply-To: <EA8F815D502BC14097213C5D85BA1C6522C36550@SPMXM07.VUW.leidenuniv.nl>
Message-ID: <B3971DC7-F4C7-4559-B1C9-57BF26E539E3@helsinki.fi>

Dear Herman,
Henri Schildt : The Traditional Kerala Manor: Architecture of a South Indian Catu???la House. (Institut Fran?ais de Pondich?ry and Ecole Fran?aise D'Extr?me Orient, Collection Indologie 117.) xiv, 473 pp. Pondicherry: All India Press, 2012. ISBN (IFP) 978 81 8470 189 0. ISBN (EFEO) 978 2 85539 126 7.
may have something of interest.

Best,
Klaus

Klaus Karttunen
South Asian and Indoeuropean Studies
Asian and African Studies, Department of World Cultures
PL 59 (Unioninkatu 38 B)
00014 University of Helsinki, FINLAND
Tel +358-(0)2941 4482418
Fax +358-(0)2941 22094
Klaus.Karttunen at helsinki.fi






On Feb 18, 2015, at 11:15 PM, Tieken, H.J.H. wrote:

> The Hague, 18 February 2015.
> 
> Dear list members,
> 
> A history student from Delhi (JNU) presently in Leiden is writing a paper on v?stu??stras as a source of historical studies. I want her at least to know of the ideas such as expressed by Vincent Lef?vre, in his book Commanditaires & artistes en Indu du Sud. Des Pallava aux N?yak (VI-XVIII si?cle). Paris 2006, pp. 95-107 regarding the practical use (or rather, the absence of that) of such texts for the artisans and craftsmen: Briefly, the texts were mainly concerned with rituals; whatever practical information on construction etc. which is there, is there as a by-product of the ritual interest. If artisans refer to these texts they do so to enhance their status.
> Unfortunately, the student does not read French. I hope that some of the members of this list are able to suggests some publications in English which deal with these matters.
> With kind regards, Herman Tieken 
> 
> 
> 
> Herman Tieken
> University of Leiden
> The Netherlands
> website: hermantieken.com
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
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From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com  Thu Feb 19 18:40:21 2015
From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 15 00:10:21 +0530
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_v=C4=81st=C5=9B=C4=81stra?=
Message-ID: <CAJGj9eZqUHzUxT9X6-YtEFXWXLQb+VwpaLgJihnm-iK27aV5Zg@mail.gmail.com>

>It can't do any harm in having a look at the Citrasuutra from the
>ViSNudharmottarapuraaNa. There are at least two English translations.
Easily >found in the Univ. of Toronto library:
>http://onesearch.library.utoronto.ca/
>Stella Sandahl

If Puranic sources are to be consulted, in stead of Chitrasutra which is
about painting the chapters of Matsyapurana

(252 The Vastu Deva; 253 Ascertaining of Vastu site for construction of
buildings etc. ; 254 The Vastu Vidya; 255 The Vastu Vidya; 256 The Vastu
Vidya; 257 The Vastu Vidya; 258 The measurements of limbs of the images of
the Devas, etc. ; 259 The characteristics of the images of the Devas; 260
The forms of the images of the several Devas and their characteristics; 261
The forms of Gods, etc. ; 262 The pedestals on which the Gods are placed;
263 The dimensions of the Phallus; 264 The consecration of the idols; 265
Adhivasana Vidhise; 266 Installation of an image; 267 The bathing of the
idol; 268 Propitiating the Vastu Deity; 269 The dimensions and related
characteristics of temples; 270 The characteristics of Mandapas;)

directly dealing with Vastu should be more useful.

-- 
Prof.Nagaraj Paturi
Hyderabad-500044


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From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com  Thu Feb 19 18:57:36 2015
From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 15 00:27:36 +0530
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_v=C4=81st=C5=9B=C4=81stra?=
Message-ID: <CAJGj9eY7RhSPtyOEzpoXqGS3oDKar6YB+E=KAR2BdeKdvLfGuw@mail.gmail.com>

There is a journal called abacus the monsoon 2012 issue of which

https://www.bitmesra.ac.in/UploadedDocuments/Menu_635072099878507702_abstracts_MO-12.pdf

has Evolution of Architecture as its special focus .

It has some articles that could be of help to the researcher.

Other issues of the journal could help the student.
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From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com  Thu Feb 19 19:21:07 2015
From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 15 00:51:07 +0530
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_v=C4=81st=C5=9B=C4=81stra?=
Message-ID: <CAJGj9eYT=OKdPjk7xfLMOjX8tKUSOUmwpcxFSu8Cm9Kn+f5aHg@mail.gmail.com>

useful article by Adam Hardy :


http://orca.cf.ac.uk/13911/1/Dravida%20Temples%20in%20the%20Samarangana.pdf
"Dravida temples in the Samarangana Sutradhara"

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From H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl  Fri Feb 20 08:34:22 2015
From: H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl (Tieken, H.J.H.)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 15 08:34:22 +0000
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_v=C4=81stu=C5=9B=C4=81stra?=
Message-ID: <EA8F815D502BC14097213C5D85BA1C6522C366A1@SPMXM07.VUW.leidenuniv.nl>

The Hague, 20 February 2015,

I would like to thank all those list members who have supplied me with literature regarding the practical use of v?stu??stra texts.

Best, Herman Tieken

Herman Tieken
University of Leiden
The Netherlands
website: hermantieken.com<http://hermantieken.com/>


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From soni at staff.uni-marburg.de  Fri Feb 20 11:16:52 2015
From: soni at staff.uni-marburg.de (soni at staff.uni-marburg.de)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 15 12:16:52 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] New Book on Buddhist and Jaina Studies
Message-ID: <20150220121652.Horde.FlbyVWbx_cwxecfMOlFGdQ1@home.staff.uni-marburg.de>

Hopefully several of you would be interested to know about the volume  
published at the end of 2014 but available only now:

Buddhist and Jaina Studies. Proceedings of the Conference in Lumbini,  
February 2013
Edited by
J. Soni, M. Pahlke and C. C?ppers

The book can be ordered from the: Lumbini International Research  
Institute, P.O. Box 39, Bhairahawa, Dist. Rupandehi, NEPAL
E-mail: liri at mos.com.np.

The title page and table of contents are in the attachment.


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From gruenen at sub.uni-goettingen.de  Fri Feb 20 14:26:19 2015
From: gruenen at sub.uni-goettingen.de (Gruenendahl, Reinhold)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 15 14:26:19 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] GRETIL update #459
Message-ID: <044C4CE033BD474EBE2ACACE8E4B1D94B9988646@UM-excdag-a02.um.gwdg.de>


GRETIL is pleased to be able to report the following addition(s) to its collection:

Buddhavamsa: link to related e-book added:
http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm#Buddhav

Cariyapitaka: PTS/Dhammakaya edition, annotated and plain text:
http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm#Cariyap

Petavatthu: PTS/Dhammakaya edition, annotated and plain text:
http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm#Petav

Suttanipata: minor technical correction:
http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm#Suttanip

Vimanavatthu: PTS/Dhammakaya edition, annotated and plain text:
http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm#Vimanav

__________________________________________________________________________

"GRETIL is intended as a cumulative register of the numerous download sites for electronic texts in Indian languages." (from the 2001 "mission statement")

GRETIL - Goettingen Register of Electronic Texts in Indian Languages:

http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm






From dchakra at hotmail.de  Fri Feb 20 17:50:16 2015
From: dchakra at hotmail.de (Dr. Debabrata Chakrabarti)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 15 23:20:16 +0530
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_Alexander_Hamilton=E2=80=99s_Jewish_Connection!?=
Message-ID: <BAY179-W39CC5BDAFD423A65BE3266D92A0@phx.gbl>


Alexander Hamilton?s Jewish ConnectionRevisiting the Founding Father?s Jewish day school days in the West IndiesDear All,Please enjoy reading!http://tabletmag.com/scroll/189128/alexander-hamiltons-jewish-connection?utm_source=tabletmagazinelist&utm_campaign=976350fa60-Friday_February_20_20152_20_2015&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c308bf8edb-976350fa60-206805233BestDebabrata Chakrabarti



?This body
is like a musical instrument; what you hear depends upon how you play it.? ?
Anandamayi Ma 

?Inside
every human being there exists a special heaven, whole and unbroken.? -
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From gruenen at sub.uni-goettingen.de  Fri Feb 20 18:00:22 2015
From: gruenen at sub.uni-goettingen.de (Gruenendahl, Reinhold)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 15 18:00:22 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] GRETIL update #459
In-Reply-To: <044C4CE033BD474EBE2ACACE8E4B1D94B9988646@UM-excdag-a02.um.gwdg.de>
Message-ID: <044C4CE033BD474EBE2ACACE8E4B1D94B99886FD@UM-excdag-a02.um.gwdg.de>


GRETIL is pleased to be able to report the following addition(s) to its collection:

Buddhavamsa: link to related e-book added:
http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm#Buddhav

Cariyapitaka: PTS/Dhammakaya edition, annotated and plain text:
http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm#Cariyap

Petavatthu: PTS/Dhammakaya edition, annotated and plain text:
http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm#Petav

Suttanipata: minor technical correction:
http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm#Suttanip

Vimanavatthu: PTS/Dhammakaya edition, annotated and plain text:
http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm#Vimanav

__________________________________________________________________________

"GRETIL is intended as a cumulative register of the numerous download sites for electronic texts in Indian languages." (from the 2001 "mission statement")

GRETIL - Goettingen Register of Electronic Texts in Indian Languages:

http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm






From mkapstei at uchicago.edu  Fri Feb 20 18:00:39 2015
From: mkapstei at uchicago.edu (Matthew Kapstein)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 15 18:00:39 +0000
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]=09Alexander_Hamilton=E2=80=99s_Jewish_Connection!?=
In-Reply-To: <BAY179-W39CC5BDAFD423A65BE3266D92A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <82C3E42590D939418C74DD76B97DDED0374E6AAD@xm-mbx-04-prod.ad.uchicago.edu>

This is of course the well-known Alexander Hamilton (1755-1804) of US revolutionary fame, and
not the British Sanskritist (1762-1824), who nevertheless seems to have been a relation.

Matthew Kapstein
Directeur d'?tudes,
Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes

Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies,
The University of Chicago
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From dchakra at hotmail.de  Fri Feb 20 18:26:11 2015
From: dchakra at hotmail.de (Dr. Debabrata Chakrabarti)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 15 23:56:11 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] The 44th Annual Conference on South Asia October 22-25,	2015
Message-ID: <BAY179-W82ED99E5CA1EE9B2F031D4D92A0@phx.gbl>

The 44th Annual Conference on South AsiaOctober 22-25, 2015Please read the link:https://www.southasiaconference.wisc.edu/index.htm





?This body
is like a musical instrument; what you hear depends upon how you play it.? ?
Anandamayi Ma 

?Inside
every human being there exists a special heaven, whole and unbroken.? -
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From rrocher at sas.upenn.edu  Fri Feb 20 21:30:21 2015
From: rrocher at sas.upenn.edu (Rosane Rocher)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 15 16:30:21 -0500
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Alexander_Hamilton=E2=80=99s_Jewish_Connection!?=
In-Reply-To: <82C3E42590D939418C74DD76B97DDED0374E6AAD@xm-mbx-04-prod.ad.uchicago.edu>
Message-ID: <54E7A76D.8000400@sas.upenn.edu>

Yes, those two and a third Alexander Hamilton, the laird of Grange, 
Scotland, were first cousins.  See Rosane Rocher and Michael E. Scorgie, 
"A Family Empire: The Alexander Hamilton Cousins, 1750-1830," /Journal 
of Imperial and Commonwealth History, /vol. 23, No. 2, 1995, pp. 189?210.

Rosane Rocher

On 2/20/15 1:00 PM, Matthew Kapstein wrote:
> This is of course the well-known Alexander Hamilton (1755-1804) of US 
> revolutionary fame, and
> not the British Sanskritist (1762-1824), who nevertheless seems to 
> have been a relation.
>
> Matthew Kapstein
> Directeur d'?tudes,
> Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes
>
> Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies,
> The University of Chicago
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>
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From witzel at fas.harvard.edu  Sat Feb 21 12:05:01 2015
From: witzel at fas.harvard.edu (Michael Witzel)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 15 07:05:01 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Harvard Sanskrit Summer School
Message-ID: <23D1AA8B-74EA-472B-A45A-786A1DAC6564@fas.harvard.edu>

Dear ALL,

As over the past 25-odd years, we will offer an introduction to Sanskrit this summer (Jun 22 - Aug 7, 2015). The course is open to all interested, including one or two High School students.

For details please see:         

<http://www.summer.harvard.edu/courses/course-search?results>
<http://dceweb.harvard.edu/prod/sswckce.taf?function=search&wgrp=SUM&crn=32541&view=avail>

General Information:
<http://www.summer.harvard.edu/>

Please let your students know!

Best wishes,

M. WItzel

============
> Michael Witzel
> witzel at fas.harvard.edu
> <www.fas.harvard.edu/~witzel/mwpage.htm>
> Wales Prof. of Sanskrit,
> Dept. of South Asian Studies, Harvard University
> 1 Bow Street,
> Cambridge MA 02138, USA
> 
> phone: 1- 617 - 495 3295, fax 617 - 496 8571;
> direct line:  617- 496 2990





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From kellner at asia-europe.uni-heidelberg.de  Sat Feb 21 15:33:14 2015
From: kellner at asia-europe.uni-heidelberg.de (Birgit Kellner)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 15 16:33:14 +0100
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_The_definition_of_v=C4=81rttika_as_a_type_of_commentary?=
Message-ID: <54E8A53A.605@asia-europe.uni-heidelberg.de>

Dear colleagues,

I was wondering whether any of you could help with tracing definitions
of v?rttika as a type of commentary.

Hemacandra gives this definition in the Abhidh?nacint?ma?i:

Abhidh?nacint?ma?i 2.170  [=Boethlingk/Rieu ed. verse no. 256]:
ukt?nuktadurukt?rthacint?k?ri tu v?rttikam | ??k? nirantaravy?khy?
pa?jik? padabha?jik? ||

A v?rttika thus scrutinizes (the basic text) in terms of what has been
taught in it, what has not been taught in it, and what has been badly
taught in it. (Some remarks in Wezler 1974 on Yuktid?pik?, and 1975
Sekund?r-Suffixe-P??ini)

A different definition is found in some Buddhist pram??a commentaries.

Praj??karagupta's Pram??av?rttik?la?k?rabh??ya (ed. S??k?ty?yana 1953, p
521): s?tr???m anupapatticodan?(t? cf. below) tatparih?ro
vi?e??bhidh?na? ceti v?rttikalak?a?am.

Vibh?ticandra's notes attached to the paper manuscript of
Manorathanandin's Pram??av?rttikav?tti (reproduced in the edition of PVV
S??k?ty?yana 1938-40, p. 516):

v?rttika? ca vi?e??bhidh?n?dir?pa? yathokta? s?tr?n?? anupapatticodan?t
tatparih?ro vi?e??bhidh?nam iti lak?a?am <|> ayam ev?rtha? parokta? |

s?tr?n?? do?am udbh?vya parih?ro yatra d?yate |
vi?e?acodan? c?pi v?rttika? tat prak?rtitam <||> iti ||

(Emendations to first half necessary for metrical and grammatical
reasons, perhaps "parih?ro 'tra dyotyate"?)

I'm not sure how to best make sense of the second definition. Does
anyone know other occurrences of it, or pertinent discussions?

Thank you in advance,

Birgit Kellner


----------
Prof. Dr. Birgit Kellner
Chair of Buddhist Studies
Cluster of Excellence "Asia and Europe in a Global Context - The
Dynamics of Transculturality"
University of Heidelberg
Karl Jaspers Centre
Vo?stra?e 2, Building 4400
D-69115 Heidelberg
Phone: +49(0)6221 - 54 4301 (Office Ina Chebbi: 4363)
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From jonathan.edelmann at gmail.com  Sat Feb 21 16:42:59 2015
From: jonathan.edelmann at gmail.com (Jonathan Edelmann)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 15 10:42:59 -0600
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]=09The_definition_of_v=C4=81rttika_as_a_type_of_commentary?=
In-Reply-To: <54E8A53A.605@asia-europe.uni-heidelberg.de>
Message-ID: <CAH+9eaH8+H8hUoxZMp4v0mdYO3yWy1aOKHQCms7TptO0GSw40Q@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Prof Kellner,

There is a good discussion of v?rttika (along with other terms like bh??ya,
nibandha, ??k?, ?ippa?a, etc.) in Ch 8 ("Commentary and Creativity")
ofJonardon Ganeri's _The Lost Age of Reason: Philosophy in Early Modern
India 1450-1700_. A number of Buddhist, Ny?ya, etc. authors and texts are
discussed on the very topic in question.

Sincerely,
Jonathan Edelmann

__________________
Jonathan Edelmann, Ph.D.
Shackouls Honors College Faculty Fellow
Assistant Professor of Religion
Mississippi State University
Website:
https://msstate.academia.edu/JonathanEdelmann?notification_code=jTT3IbH1
Section Editor, International Journal of Hindu Studies:
http://www.springer.com/social+sciences/religious+studies/journal/11407


On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 9:33 AM, Birgit Kellner <
kellner at asia-europe.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote:

> Dear colleagues,
>
> I was wondering whether any of you could help with tracing definitions
> of v?rttika as a type of commentary.
>
> Hemacandra gives this definition in the Abhidh?nacint?ma?i:
>
> Abhidh?nacint?ma?i 2.170  [=Boethlingk/Rieu ed. verse no. 256]:
> ukt?nuktadurukt?rthacint?k?ri tu v?rttikam | ??k? nirantaravy?khy?
> pa?jik? padabha?jik? ||
>
> A v?rttika thus scrutinizes (the basic text) in terms of what has been
> taught in it, what has not been taught in it, and what has been badly
> taught in it. (Some remarks in Wezler 1974 on Yuktid?pik?, and 1975
> Sekund?r-Suffixe-P??ini)
>
> A different definition is found in some Buddhist pram??a commentaries.
>
> Praj??karagupta's Pram??av?rttik?la?k?rabh??ya (ed. S??k?ty?yana 1953, p
> 521): s?tr???m anupapatticodan?(t? cf. below) tatparih?ro
> vi?e??bhidh?na? ceti v?rttikalak?a?am.
>
> Vibh?ticandra's notes attached to the paper manuscript of
> Manorathanandin's Pram??av?rttikav?tti (reproduced in the edition of PVV
> S??k?ty?yana 1938-40, p. 516):
>
> v?rttika? ca vi?e??bhidh?n?dir?pa? yathokta? s?tr?n?? anupapatticodan?t
> tatparih?ro vi?e??bhidh?nam iti lak?a?am <|> ayam ev?rtha? parokta? |
>
> s?tr?n?? do?am udbh?vya parih?ro yatra d?yate |
> vi?e?acodan? c?pi v?rttika? tat prak?rtitam <||> iti ||
>
> (Emendations to first half necessary for metrical and grammatical
> reasons, perhaps "parih?ro 'tra dyotyate"?)
>
> I'm not sure how to best make sense of the second definition. Does
> anyone know other occurrences of it, or pertinent discussions?
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
> Birgit Kellner
>
>
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From ashok.aklujkar at gmail.com  Sat Feb 21 17:11:15 2015
From: ashok.aklujkar at gmail.com (Ashok Aklujkar)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 15 09:11:15 -0800
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_The_definition_of_v=C4=81rttika_as_a_type_of_commentary?=
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Message-ID: <8FB1065A-327E-4D6C-9E85-E0029ED45745@mail.ubc.ca>

Birgit,

Your emendation of yatra to atra ('tra) is fine (so also of anupapatticodan? to anupapatticodan?t). But dyotyate will not work. Its initial, being a conjunct consonant, will make the preceding short vowel (a fifth syllable in the verse quarter) guru or heavy and disturb the metre. The meaning 'indicates, suggests' will also not fit, because the removal of the objection is explicitly done, not suggested. Most importantly, there is no need to change diiyate to dyotyate. Constructions such as mama do.so na diiyate are found (usually in the copyist's apology at the end of a manuscript). Therefore, parihaaro 'tra diiyate in the sense of parihaaro 'tra ucyate/kriyate/upanyasyate is quite in keeping with the idiom of classical Sanskrit. 

a.a. 


> On Feb 21, 2015, at 7:33 AM, Birgit Kellner <kellner at ASIA-EUROPE.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE> wrote:
> 
> Dear colleagues,
> 
> I was wondering whether any of you could help with tracing definitions
> of v?rttika as a type of commentary.
> 
> Hemacandra gives this definition in the Abhidh?nacint?ma?i:
> 
> Abhidh?nacint?ma?i 2.170  [=Boethlingk/Rieu ed. verse no. 256]:
> ukt?nuktadurukt?rthacint?k?ri tu v?rttikam | ??k? nirantaravy?khy?
> pa?jik? padabha?jik? ||
> 
> A v?rttika thus scrutinizes (the basic text) in terms of what has been
> taught in it, what has not been taught in it, and what has been badly
> taught in it. (Some remarks in Wezler 1974 on Yuktid?pik?, and 1975
> Sekund?r-Suffixe-P??ini)
> 
> A different definition is found in some Buddhist pram??a commentaries.
> 
> Praj??karagupta's Pram??av?rttik?la?k?rabh??ya (ed. S??k?ty?yana 1953, p
> 521): s?tr???m anupapatticodan?(t? cf. below) tatparih?ro
> vi?e??bhidh?na? ceti v?rttikalak?a?am.
> 
> Vibh?ticandra's notes attached to the paper manuscript of
> Manorathanandin's Pram??av?rttikav?tti (reproduced in the edition of PVV
> S??k?ty?yana 1938-40, p. 516):
> 
> v?rttika? ca vi?e??bhidh?n?dir?pa? yathokta? s?tr?n?? anupapatticodan?t
> tatparih?ro vi?e??bhidh?nam iti lak?a?am <|> ayam ev?rtha? parokta? |
> 
> s?tr?n?? do?am udbh?vya parih?ro yatra d?yate |
> vi?e?acodan? c?pi v?rttika? tat prak?rtitam <||> iti ||
> 
> (Emendations to first half necessary for metrical and grammatical
> reasons, perhaps "parih?ro 'tra dyotyate"?)
> 
> I'm not sure how to best make sense of the second definition. Does
> anyone know other occurrences of it, or pertinent discussions?
> 
> Thank you in advance,
> 
> Birgit Kellner
> 
> 
> ----------
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> Dynamics of Transculturality"
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From christoph.emmrich at utoronto.ca  Sun Feb 22 03:43:34 2015
From: christoph.emmrich at utoronto.ca (christoph.emmrich at utoronto.ca)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 15 22:43:34 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] CFP American Council for Southern Asian Art Symposium	XVII, Toronto 2015
Message-ID: <20150221224334.ymphqlz340sowkow@webmail.utoronto.ca>

ACSAA
American Council for Southern Asian Art

CALL FOR PAPERS

ACSAA Symposium XVII
Celebrating the 50th Anniversary of the American Council for Southern  
Asian Art

October 15-17, 2015 Royal Ontario Museum, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Proposals Due: April 2, 2015

We are pleased to announce that the American Council for Southern  
Asian Art (ACSAA) will hold its seventeenth biennial meeting at the  
Royal Ontario Museum, Toronto, Ontario, Canada, October 15-17, 2015.  
ACSAA symposia occur in alternating years, and serve as opportunities  
to meet colleagues, re-connect with mentors and graduate school  
cohorts, and share one's current research with the field. From senior  
scholars to graduate students, ACSAA symposia are one of the primary  
ways ACSAA members gather and support one another, share ideas with a  
group of like-minded colleagues, and participate in the ACSAA community.

For ACSAA XVII, we invite proposals for individual papers and  
pre-formed panels (4 papers of 20 min each, or experimental panel  
formats, such as PechaKucha style presentations, not to exceed 60 min)  
that reflect original and/or new research in South and Southeast Asian  
art history. 2015 marks ACSAA?s 50th anniversary and thus proposals  
that reflect on the historiography of the discipline are encouraged.  
Abstracts should reference ties to existing bodies of literature.  
Preference will be given to proposals from individuals who did NOT  
present full-length papers at ACSAA XVI in order to give more members  
the opportunity to present. However, all members are welcome to  
propose experimental panel formats and/or ideas for round-table  
discussions. All presenters and panel chairs must be ACSAA members in  
good standing.

Individual papers: Please submit a 250-word abstract & 1-page CV.
Panel Proposals: Please submit 250-word abstracts for panel concept  
and each paper, along with 1-page CV
for panel chair and each presenter.

Submit all materials and inquiries to: acsaa2015 at gmail.com

Timeline:
? April 2, 2015 Proposals due
? May 2015 Submissions notified
? July 2015 Symposium details announced to Membership

Selection Committee:
? Deepali Dewan, Royal Ontario Museum (colonial and modern visual  
culture, photography studies)
? Christoph Emmrich, University of Toronto (religious studies in  
Nepal, Burma, and Tamil worlds)
? Sarah Fee, Royal Ontario Museum (textiles of the eastern hemisphere,  
Indian Ocean trade)
? Lisa Golombek, Royal Ontario Museum (Islamic architecture and ceramics)
? Katherine Hacker, University of British Columbia (contemporary art  
and visual practice)
? Kajri Jain, University of Toronto (new media, visual studies,  
contemporary art)
? Ali Kazimi, York University (film studies, diaspora studies)
? Heather M.-L. Miller, University of Toronto (archaeology,  
anthropology, material culture studies)
? Karin Ruehrdanz, Royal Ontario Museum (Islamic painting)
? Emma Natalya Stein, PhD Candidate, Yale University (premodern South  
and Southeast Asian art and architecture)

ACSAA 2015 is organized by Deepali Dewan (deepalid at rom.on.ca) with the  
assistance of Ph.D. Candidate Aruna Panday (acsaa2015 at gmail.com) and  
programming staff at the Royal Ontario Museum.


----

Christoph Emmrich
Associate Professor, Buddhist Studies
Chair, Numata Program UofT/McMaster
University of Toronto

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From LubinT at wlu.edu  Mon Feb 23 13:20:58 2015
From: LubinT at wlu.edu (Lubin, Tim)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 15 13:20:58 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] CFP: Approaches to South Asian History | a special collection in Open Library of Humanities
Message-ID: <D110933D.17DE7%lubint@wlu.edu>

Open Library of Humanities, a new open-access journal, invites articles on South Asian history (1) that synthesize findings from more geographically or temporally restricted studies to offer a picture of large-scale processes, or (2) that offer an example of collaborative research toward the same end. Topics may include but are not limited to:

    Indian Ocean trade and travel reflected in microhistorical data from port cities
    Longterm trends in land tenure rights and transactions
    Changing patterns of patronage for religious institutions
    Literary and scholastic practices showing up across linguistic areas
    Comparison of classical depictions of social structure with data from epigraphy and material culture
    Institutional factors supporting particular modes of scientific or scholastic discourse

https://www.openlibhums.org/2015/02/23/cfp-multifocal-and-collaborative-approaches-to-south-asian-history-deadline-august-31st-2015-olh/

The Open Library of Humanities (ISSN 2056-6700) is an Andrew W. Mellon Foundation-funded open-access journal with no author-facing charges and is instead financially supported by an international consortium of libraries.  Its special collections are thematically focused special issues.

Submissions (around 8000 words) should be made online at: https://submit.openlibhums.org in accordance with the author guidelines and clearly marking the entry as ?Multifocal and Collaborative Approaches to South Asian History?; all submissions undergo a double-blind peer-review.

Open-access publishing seek to remedy the problem of academic research being owned by a shrinking number of publishers and locked behind costly paywalls, which limits readership and stifles research.

Best,

Timothy Lubin
Professor of Religion and Adjunct Professor of Law
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, Virginia 24450

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http://wlu.academia.edu/TimothyLubin
https://twitter.com/TimothyLubin
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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 15 16:38:53 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Fwd: REMINDER: Postdoc for Cosmopolitanism in Science project, apps due March 2!
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From martin.gansten at pbhome.se  Wed Feb 25 20:46:47 2015
From: martin.gansten at pbhome.se (Martin Gansten)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 15 21:46:47 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Manuscripts in India
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I'd like to confirm the positive report shared by Dominik earlier this 
year (below). His post encouraged me to contact Koba Tirth by email, and 
I found everone involved extremely helpful. It took them a few weeks to 
find the manuscripts of the texts I was looking for, but then I had 
given them several alternative titles. All in all I received PDFs 
containing nearly 600 pages of high-quality scans. Unlike Dominik, I 
also received a bill, for Rs. 600, but I was more than happy to pay. The 
only problem turned out to be that the amount was too small (!) to be 
handled by the transfer service I used, so I had to top it up with a 
minor donation; but again, I was happy to do so.

Martin Gansten


Dominik Wujastyk wrote:
> [...]
>
> A counter-example.  The largest MS library in the world is the Gyan 
> Tirth at Koba <http://kobatirth.org/jainlibrary.aspx>, just on the 
> outskirts of Ahmedabad. Yes, I mean it.  250k MSS, making it four 
> times larger than the Vatican library or the BN in Paris.  I was there 
> in late 2011.  The faculty and staff could not have been kinder or 
> more helpful.  Everything computerized and efficient.  I was given 
> PDFs on my data plug within half an hour of asking.  No money.  And I 
> was told, "next time, no need to come so far; just send email, we'll 
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From w.t.douglas at abdn.ac.uk  Wed Feb 25 23:43:50 2015
From: w.t.douglas at abdn.ac.uk (Dr. Will Tuladhar-Douglas)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 15 23:43:50 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Seeking IHQ article from 1949
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Gentle listmembers,

I'm looking for a digital copy of A.C. Banerjee's article in which he edits the Bhik?ukarmav?kya. The Sanskrit text itself is available from the DSBC and thus also Gretil, but I'd like to read what he had to say about the manuscript sources. This was originally published in IHQ 25 (1949), pp. 19-30, and then reprinted in Two Buddhist Vinaya Texts in Sanskrit, Calcutta 1977.

If there is no digital copy available I will track something down on my travels in the next two months and scan it.

Many thanks,

?WBTD.

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From veerankp at gmail.com  Thu Feb 26 08:34:25 2015
From: veerankp at gmail.com (Veeranarayana Pandurangi)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 15 14:04:25 +0530
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_Workshop_on_Indian_Logic_and_Epistemology_Foundation_Level_(Tarkasa=E1=B9=81graha)?=
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Karnataka Samskrit University is organizing a workshop on Indian Logic and
Epistemology Foundation Level (Tarkasa?graha). Please follow the below link
for details. Students and research scholars are very much welcome for the
workshop.

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-- 
Regards

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Assistant Professor
Faculty of Language
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Chamarajpet
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-- 
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Director of Academics
Dean, Faculty of Vedantas
Karnakata Samskrita University,
Pampa Mahakavi Road,
Chamarajpet, Bengaluru.


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From rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk  Thu Feb 26 08:35:01 2015
From: rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk (Rohana Seneviratne)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 15 08:35:01 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Seeking IHQ article from 1949
In-Reply-To: <0B26DB08-90E2-43A1-926E-D6998DD9690A@abdn.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <263AADEB1C61774CB059F93BD3A6940B1494A1@MBX06.ad.oak.ox.ac.uk>

Dear Dr. Will,

Here is the article you're looking for from the DLI. The scan is not great but legible.


Best Wishes,
Rohana
------------------------------------------------
Rohana Seneviratne
DPhil Student in Sanskrit
The Oriental Institute
Faculty of Oriental Studies
University of Oxford
Pusey Lane, Oxford
OX1 2LE
United Kingdom

Email: rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk
Web: http://users.ox.ac.uk/~pemb3753/
________________________________
From: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] on behalf of Dr. Will Tuladhar-Douglas [w.t.douglas at abdn.ac.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:43 PM
To: Indology
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Seeking IHQ article from 1949

Gentle listmembers,

I'm looking for a digital copy of A.C. Banerjee's article in which he edits the Bhik?ukarmav?kya. The Sanskrit text itself is available from the DSBC and thus also Gretil, but I'd like to read what he had to say about the manuscript sources. This was originally published in IHQ 25 (1949), pp. 19-30, and then reprinted in Two Buddhist Vinaya Texts in Sanskrit, Calcutta 1977.

If there is no digital copy available I will track something down on my travels in the next two months and scan it.

Many thanks,

?WBTD.

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Will Tuladhar Douglas
Senior Lecturer, Environments and Religions
University of Aberdeen
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From w.t.douglas at abdn.ac.uk  Thu Feb 26 11:01:19 2015
From: w.t.douglas at abdn.ac.uk (Dr. Will Tuladhar-Douglas)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 15 11:01:19 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Seeking IHQ article from 1949
In-Reply-To: <CAMGmO4KHq68m9kz67dToZLc2xS8NDtBiBYUdtQunVco0J7xEhg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B17C631C-EF5E-45F3-8FCB-B5447B57E0A2@abdn.ac.uk>

Many thanks to the list, which has yet again gone beyond mere provision and provided illumination ? thanks in particular to Andrew Ollett (who pointed out that IHQ is on DLI), Shayne Clarke (who also pointed me towards the new facsimile edition of the Gilgit mss.), and Jonathan Silk. 

Be well all,

?WBTD.
> 
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 12:43 AM, Dr. Will Tuladhar-Douglas <w.t.douglas at abdn.ac.uk <mailto:w.t.douglas at abdn.ac.uk>> wrote:
> Gentle listmembers,
> 
> I'm looking for a digital copy of A.C. Banerjee's article in which he edits the Bhik?ukarmav?kya. The Sanskrit text itself is available from the DSBC and thus also Gretil, but I'd like to read what he had to say about the manuscript sources. This was originally published in IHQ 25 (1949), pp. 19-30, and then reprinted in Two Buddhist Vinaya Texts in Sanskrit, Calcutta 1977.
> 
> If there is no digital copy available I will track something down on my travels in the next two months and scan it.
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> ?WBTD.
> 



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From pf8 at soas.ac.uk  Thu Feb 26 14:34:06 2015
From: pf8 at soas.ac.uk (Peter Flugel)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 15 14:34:06 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Jaina Studies - Newsletter of the Centre of Jaina	Studies Vol. 10
Message-ID: <CAF+JJrmqbx40H3=hrhyzZLN3sdoX5KxVvnJFGMLb5cJ5J+R=ow@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Friends,

The online version of our 10th 'jubilee' newsletter has been published:

https://www.soas.ac.uk/jainastudies/newsletter/

Enjoy

Peter

-- 
Dr Peter Fl?gel
Chair, Centre of Jaina Studies
Department of the Study of Religions
Faculty of Arts and Humanities
School of Oriental and African Studies
University of London
Thornhaugh Street
Russell Square
London WC1H OXG

Tel.: (+44-20) 7898 4776
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From lavanyavemsani at gmail.com  Fri Feb 27 01:00:26 2015
From: lavanyavemsani at gmail.com (Lavanya Vemsani)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 15 20:00:26 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Call for papers
Message-ID: <0186CAEB-E9F0-41CA-A04B-6EB338CB8251@gmail.com>

Call for Papers
Uberoi Seminar at Shawnee State University, OHIO, USA
We are excited to announce the interdisciplinary conference, Indian Cultural Heritage in the Global Age, which will take place at The Shawnee State University, Portsmouth, Ohio, October 29-30, 2015. The conference brings together academic research on India, its religious and cultural history. India is home to a number of religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism, collectively referred to as the Dharma traditions. As India gains economic momemtum and enters the global arena, its cultural traditions and religious practices adopt to change, and reach countries outside of India. While Yoga, and Vegetarianism are ubiquitous with India, other aspects of Indian culture are not as well known. In a global world, it is more than ever necessary to understand India, its culture and religions.  Hence we seek papers on all aspects of Indian culture and religions. 
Additionally, selected papers will be included in a collection of essays resulting from the conference.

Please send a 350-word abstract in PDF format and brief (one paragraph maximum) bio to uberoiseminar at shawnee.edu by May 29, 2015 (11:59pm). Notifications of acceptance will be sent by June  29, 2015 and the program will be announced by July 29, 2015. 

 
 
 
Dr. Lavanya Vemsani
Professor, History
Editor, Journal of Dharma and Hindu Studies
Department of Social Sciences
Shawnee State University
Portsmouth OH 45662
Phone: 740-351-3233 Fax: 740-351-3153
 

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From arlogriffiths at hotmail.com  Fri Feb 27 11:53:48 2015
From: arlogriffiths at hotmail.com (Arlo Griffiths)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 15 11:53:48 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] selected articles G. Fussman
Message-ID: <DUB114-W965B76A02EAE84A17E89F7A5150@phx.gbl>

Dear colleagues,

I am not sure whether the following has already been announced on this forum or not, but just to be sure, here is the link for further information on the recently published volume of articles by G. Fussman:

http://www.efeo.fr/fiche_publication.php?code=90&fid=840

Bonne lecture!

Arlo Griffiths
?cole fran?aise d'Extr?me-Orient
 		 	   		  


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From baums at lmu.de  Fri Feb 27 19:22:52 2015
From: baums at lmu.de (Stefan Baums)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 15 20:22:52 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] [mlundber@usc.edu: USC's Training Program in Reflectance Transformation Imaging]
Message-ID: <20150227192252.GW2489@deepthought>

----- Forwarded message from mlundber at usc.edu -----

Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 18:50:59 +0000
From: Marilyn Melzian Lundberg <mlundber at usc.edu>
To: "indology at list.indology.info" <indology at list.indology.info>
Subject: USC's Training Program in Reflectance Transformation Imaging

Would you be able to send this out to your membership? If you have any questions, please let me know.

Regards,
Marilyn Lundberg

USC'S TRAINING Program for scholars, conservators, library and museum professionals, archivists and researchers in the use of Reflectance Transformation imaging (RTI) for documenting ancient texts and artifacts, including the loan of imaging equipment

CALL FOR PROPOSALS (ROUND FIVE)

The University of Southern California's West Semitic Research Project (http://www.usc.edu/dept/LAS/wsrp) has finished training the fourth round of applicants for training in Reflectance Transformation Imaging (RTI) and is looking for another round of applicants. The projects that have been accepted include RTI documentation of:

- Egyptian graffiti incised on stone blocks
- Wax and lead tablets and clay seals ranging from the first century BCE to the eighth century CE
- Egyptian quartzite statues
- Korean artifacts
- Palmyrene Aramaic Inscriptions
- Early Alphabetic inscriptions from the Sinai Peninsula
- Artifacts from Tell Timai in Egypt
- Hebrew incised ostraca
- Coins from the Persian to Crusader Periods
- Mandaean Amulets
- Dry-point glosses in Anglo-Saxon manuscripts
- Cuneiform Tablets
- Northwest Semitic monumental inscriptions
- Pyu Inscriptions from Myanmar
- Rock art from the Negev
- Persian period artifacts
- Ivories from ancient Anatolia

The Training Program is funded by a grant from the Institute for Museum and Library Services (IMLS) Laura Bush 21st Century Librarian Program for U. S. Citizens. The IMLS has also funded the purchase of imaging equipment to support the Training Program.

The objective of this project is to develop an infrastructure for training scholars in the use of RTI technology and subsequently to lend the necessary imaging equipment to participants in the training program so they can do an initial RTI documentation project either in field environments (archaeological sites, etc.) or in libraries, museums and/or other similar venues, worldwide (for examples of RTI images see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUVDbWEvpqM). This initial undertaking should be understood to be a pilot project that can develop into an ongoing, broader documentary effort and preferably may also serve as the catalyst for establishing a scholarly network consortium for image documentation of a given corpus (or corpora) of ancient texts and/or artifacts.  All equipment to be lent out is both rugged and compact and is thus ideal for doing sophisticated imaging in remote locations. Twenty awards over three years (approximately seven per year) for traineeships will be provided based on the merit and intrinsic importance of a proposed pilot imaging project as well as the appropriateness of the subject matter for RTI imaging.

The last deadline for applying to the training program is April 1, 2015.

For more information, see http://www.usc.edu/dept/LAS/wsrp/Training_Program.pdf,http://www.usc.edu/dept/LAS/wsrp/projects/imls.shtml, or contact Marilyn Lundberg (mlundber at usc.edu<mailto:mlundber at usc.edu>) or Bruce Zuckerman (bzuckerm at usc.edu<mailto:bzuckerm at usc.edu>).
--
Marilyn J. Lundberg, Ph.D.
Associate Director, West Semitic Research
Associate Editor, MAARAV
12 Empty Saddle Road
Rolling Hills Estates, CA 90274
Tel: 310-541-4573; Fax: 310-541-2361
Web Sites: http://www.usc.edu/dept/LAS/wsrp
http://www.inscriptifact.com<http://www.inscriptifact.com/>
http://www.maarav.com<http://www.maarav.com/>

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From hermantull at gmail.com  Sat Feb 28 00:51:39 2015
From: hermantull at gmail.com (Herman Tull)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 15 19:51:39 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] transliteration of proper nouns
Message-ID: <CAFdBLNiEciccDMsK8pgnfRtgqTMR5Uq5L1a1Hq7G4EGAZmD9Gw@mail.gmail.com>

I am engaged in a project that will draw on a few proper nouns from
nineteenth century India, many of which are Bengali. Is there a
transliteration standard used in modern published works for older Indic
proper nouns, particularly those that exist in print in "unusual" forms?
In other words, does one follow the "old" Bengali spellings, or revise them
to follow Sanskritized versions?

Thus, e.g., Keshub Chandra Sen, or, Keshub Chunder Sen?


Also, are diacriticals used for proper nouns? Vivekananda, or, Vivek?nanda?


And, again, are diacriticals used for organizations? Arya Samaj or ?rya
Sam?j


For all other Sanskrit elements, the project does use diacriticals
(e.g., Pur??a)


Any guidance is appreciated!

Herman

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From harshadehejia at hotmail.com  Sat Feb 28 11:31:46 2015
From: harshadehejia at hotmail.com (Harsha Dehejia)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 15 06:31:46 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Savant Singh
Message-ID: <BLU179-W80DF991D8401FE7CAFE818A0120@phx.gbl>

Friends:
I am looking for:
Nagaridas Granthavali
the complete works of Savant Singh of Kishangarh. The book is out of print. 
Kind regards,
HarshaProf. Harsha V. Dehejia

 		 	   		  


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From dipak.d2004 at gmail.com  Sat Feb 28 11:37:18 2015
From: dipak.d2004 at gmail.com (Dipak Bhattacharya)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 15 17:07:18 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] transliteration of proper nouns
In-Reply-To: <CAFdBLNiEciccDMsK8pgnfRtgqTMR5Uq5L1a1Hq7G4EGAZmD9Gw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABEB9qKn6JUjahhYM+DdyAqHdY4KZd9Kxbi56b-MNPm1O1rA9g@mail.gmail.com>

28.2 15

Dear Professor Tull,

I have no strict guidance to offer but can cite from my ?Introductory note?
to a volume comprising a collection of papers in 2001.

?The absence of strict uniformity in the use of diacritical marks in the
transliteration of Bengali words in the Bibliography requires explanation.
The Sanskrit spelling of Bengali *tatsama *words could not always be
reflected in their Roman transliterarion in the Bibliography as, for
example, there are established conventions for the names of periodicals
like Basumati where Vasumat? would have been unacceptable? (*Tarividyam*:
Subarnarekha, Kolkata: x )

The unwritten guideline is that established conventions should be adhered
to.  When there is no established convention the semivowels, irrespective
of whether they are pronounced as plosives or not, are written as
semi-vowels. Our faculty of humanities is called Vidya Bhavan without the
addition diacritics, so is the southern-most bridge in Calcutta called
Vidyasagar Setu. Youngsters also write vishan for bhishan but that is not
approved in learned circles and regarded as unsophisticated. The retroflex
? is transcribed sh, the palatal ? as plain s, ? is n, c is ch, and so on.
Aberrations are numerous. ?????? ??? (?????? ???) is written Jamini Roy. So
goes Jatindra Mohan; also Jodhpur (in Hindi).

In the thirties, forties and fifties Sunitikumar Chatterji, Durgamohan
Bhattacharyya, Rajsekhar Basu and other intellectuals had been employed by
the Government to standardize the spellings and transliterations. But the
nonchalant, lackadaisical Bengali intellectuals deemed it below dignity to
abide by norms.

Net outcome -- Go as you like stating the method!

Best

Dipak Bhattacharya



On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 6:21 AM, Herman Tull <hermantull at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> I am engaged in a project that will draw on a few proper nouns from
> nineteenth century India, many of which are Bengali. Is there a
> transliteration standard used in modern published works for older Indic
> proper nouns, particularly those that exist in print in "unusual" forms?
> In other words, does one follow the "old" Bengali spellings, or revise them
> to follow Sanskritized versions?
>
> Thus, e.g., Keshub Chandra Sen, or, Keshub Chunder Sen?
>
>
> Also, are diacriticals used for proper nouns? Vivekananda, or, Vivek?nanda?
>
>
> And, again, are diacriticals used for organizations? Arya Samaj or ?rya
> Sam?j
>
>
> For all other Sanskrit elements, the project does use diacriticals
> (e.g., Pur??a)
>
>
> Any guidance is appreciated!
>
> Herman
>
> --
>
> *Herman TullPrinceton, NJ *
>
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> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
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From dermot at grevatt.force9.co.uk  Sat Feb 28 14:12:58 2015
From: dermot at grevatt.force9.co.uk (dermot at grevatt.force9.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 15 14:12:58 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] transliteration of proper nouns
In-Reply-To: <CAFdBLNiEciccDMsK8pgnfRtgqTMR5Uq5L1a1Hq7G4EGAZmD9Gw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54F1CCEA.19927.F65AE0@dermot.grevatt.force9.co.uk>

Dear Herman,

My practice is to spell the name as the subject spells it when writing in English: Rammohun 
Roy, Keshub Chunder Sen, Aurobindo Ghose. There may be cases of doubt where the 
subject spells it in several ways, but the same is true of William Shakespeare, so it's not a 
new problem. For those who didn't write in English, I spell it as was spelt by comtemporaries, 
e.g. Dayananda Saraswati.

The same goes for Brahmo Samaj, Arya Samaj, etc.

Consequently, I don't put diacritics -- unless the subject usually spells it with diacritics, which 
is most unlikely.

On the first occurrence of the name, it may useful t add the Sanskrit form in exact 
transliteration, to explain to Sanskritists what the name means, which may be significant for 
the family's religious and caste affiliation.  

Not long ago there was a practice in library catalogues of sanskritizing names, e.g. Kesava 
Candra Sena, Aravinda Ghosa. That's inconsistent, since librarians gave up latinizing 
European names centuries ago. It's also open to the charge of objectifying the other and 
denying him/her a voice.

I hope your project goes well.

With best wishes,

Dermot (Killingley)


On 27 Feb 2015 at 19:51, Herman Tull wrote:

I am engaged in a project that will draw on a few proper nouns from 
nineteenth century India, many of which are Bengali. Is there a 
transliteration standard used in modern published works for older 
Indic proper nouns, particularly those that exist in print in 
"unusual" forms? In other words, does one follow the "old" Bengali 
spellings, or revise them to follow Sanskritized versions?

Thus, e.g., Keshub Chandra Sen, or, Keshub Chunder Sen? 


Also, are diacriticals used for proper nouns? Vivekananda, or, 
Vivekananda?


And, again, are diacriticals used for organizations? Arya Samaj or 
Arya Samaj


For all other Sanskrit elements, the project does use diacriticals 
(e.g., Puraa)


Any guidance is appreciated!

Herman

--
Herman Tull
Princeton, NJ

-- 
Dermot Killingley
9, Rectory Drive,
Gosforth,
Newcastle upon Tyne NE3 1XT
Phone (0191) 285 8053






From wujastyk at gmail.com  Sat Feb 28 14:32:45 2015
From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 15 15:32:45 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] transliteration of proper nouns
In-Reply-To: <CAFdBLNiEciccDMsK8pgnfRtgqTMR5Uq5L1a1Hq7G4EGAZmD9Gw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKdt-CcUbtctph9MOMppdp7kKHVEv6P-tn-5NPoCAK37O+XhNQ@mail.gmail.com>

Another idea to throw in the pot is the Library of Congress Name Authority
File (http://authorities.loc.gov).  The LoC people have a huge amount of
experience with this sort of thing, and formal procedures for making
decisions about names, etc.  It's all very professionalized.  E.g., Keshub
Chunder Sen
<http://authorities.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?AuthRecID=7322&v1=1&HC=1&SEQ=20150228092917&PID=-NZqmlNcgEy2OnUmkVy-bOvNN99T>
(the MARC 100 field is the approved heading, the 400s are variants that are
found in various places).
?
?DW?


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