[INDOLOGY] Second-syllable rhyme in Dravidian

[Jean-Luc Chevillard]

Dear Professor Nagaraj Paturi,

a difficult problem concerning those questions is how far back in time 
we can go for the various languages concerned.

The use of echo-word formation and reduplication may have been on the 
increase as time moved on ...

Both may have been less frequent in the past.

I have tried to gather the evidence for the Tamil language of various 
periods in the following two published articles:

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1.
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"https://halshs.archives-ouvertes.fr/halshs-00671107"
(Ideophones in Tamil: Historical observations on the morphology of 
X-eṉal expressives)
(17th European Conference on Modern South Asian Studies Heidelberg, 2002)
[see for instance the chart on page 7,
where I summarize my examination of 613 items taken from MTL
and find that:
235 are simple
301 have reduplication
77 have "echo"


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2.
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"https://www.academia.edu/4167141/Ideophones_in_Tamil_a_historical_perspective_on_the_X-enal_expressives_ஒலிக_குறிப_பாற_றுப_படை_Olikkuṟippu_Āṟṟuppaṭai_"

((Ideophones in Tamil: a historical perspective on the X-enal 
expressives, (ஒலிக்குறிப்பாற்றுப்படை [Olikkuṟippu Āṟṟuppaṭai])))
(contained in a book which came out in 2004)


Best wishes from Pondicherry

-- Jean-Luc Chevillard (CNRS)



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On 08/08/2015 12:42, Nagaraj Paturi wrote:
> . echo reduplication is not specific to Dravidian. It is found in Hindi,
> Marathi, Punjabi and many other north Indian languages too. In an
> article on "Reduplication and echo words in Hindi/Urdu",
>
> https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/halshs-00449691/document
>
>   Annie Montaut, Inalco, Paris  says, "Reduplication is a pan-Indian
> phenomenon regularly quoted as one of the dozen features accounting for
> the consistency of the South Asian linguistic area " citing Massica
> 1992, Emeneau 1980 in the endnote.
> In the section dealing with echo reduplication, the author says,
>
> "Such a phenomena is omnipresent in all the so-called “dialects” or
> regional varieties of Hindi, although it often displays a consonant
> different from the v- used in Standard Hindi : In Panjabi and
> Panjabi-ized Hindi for instance sh- is used to derive F’ (matlab-shatlab
> “signification”, with some of such formations quasi lexicalized
> (gap-conversation- shap, ‘gossiping, talking’) ; in the Pahari
> (mountain) speeches, h- or ph- is used with the same function
> (lenîn-henîn, rûs-hûs, ishk-phishk ‘love-etc"
>
> end note to this says,
>
> "Pahari (« mountain») speeches include mainly Garhwali and Kumaoni. ishk
> transcribes the native prononciation of ishq. This type of echo is even
> panindian (Emeneau 1980), with various consonants used for the first
> consonant in F’, such as g- in Telugu (puli-guli « flower »)."
>
>
>
> --
> Prof.Nagaraj Paturi
> Hyderabad-500044
>
>
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