From gruenen at sub.uni-goettingen.de  Mon Sep  1 10:03:49 2014
From: gruenen at sub.uni-goettingen.de (Gruenendahl, Reinhold)
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 14 10:03:49 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] GRETIL update #443
Message-ID: <044C4CE033BD474EBE2ACACE8E4B1D949C6B5575@UM-excdag-a02.um.gwdg.de>


GRETIL is pleased to be able to report the following addition(s) to its collection:


Angirasa-Smrti: plain text / text with pada markers / pada index:
http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm#Angirasas


Cumulative pada index of metric Dharma texts: Angirasa-Smrti added:
http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm#DharmaPI



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"GRETIL is intended as a cumulative register of the numerous download sites for electronic texts in Indian languages." (from the 2001 "mission statement")

GRETIL - Goettingen Register of Electronic Texts in Indian Languages:

http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm






From harshadehejia at hotmail.com  Mon Sep  1 10:58:01 2014
From: harshadehejia at hotmail.com (Harsha Dehejia)
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 14 06:58:01 -0400
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Narratology
Message-ID: <BLU179-W1F19EEE53D8F17A1D31A5A0C60@phx.gbl>

Friends:
One of my students is working on Narratalogy in the Indian Tradition.
While we have enough information on how stories are told, we seem to be lacking information on how stories are structured.
Any help would be most helpful.
Kind regards,
Harsha Prof. Harsha V. Dehajia
 		 	   		  


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From pathak at american.edu  Mon Sep  1 12:25:34 2014
From: pathak at american.edu (Shubha Pathak)
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 14 08:25:34 -0400
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Narratology
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From dipak.d2004 at gmail.com  Mon Sep  1 16:53:08 2014
From: dipak.d2004 at gmail.com (Dipak Bhattacharya)
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 14 22:23:08 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Narratology
In-Reply-To: <BLU179-W1F19EEE53D8F17A1D31A5A0C60@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CABEB9qJ6C4vXGSV19hbc8hhYYjwwO_GVStN-yHiHYVXvY3OrYQ@mail.gmail.com>

1.9.14

German philology has the term Rahmen-erz?hlung literally 'Frame narration'.
I am speaking from unrecorded memory. It was discussed by some
acquaintances including me long ago. I do not remember the context and the
sequel. It neatly defines the Indian narration structure. This may be
probed into. There is no dearth of knowledgeable German friends who might
help.

Best

DB


On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Harsha Dehejia <harshadehejia at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Friends:
>
> One of my students is working on Narratalogy in the Indian Tradition.
>
> While we have enough information on how stories are told, we seem to be
> lacking information on how stories are structured.
>
> Any help would be most helpful.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Harsha
> Prof. Harsha V. Dehajia
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
>


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From gthomgt at gmail.com  Mon Sep  1 18:52:54 2014
From: gthomgt at gmail.com (George Thompson)
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 14 14:52:54 -0400
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Narratology
In-Reply-To: <CABEB9qJ6C4vXGSV19hbc8hhYYjwwO_GVStN-yHiHYVXvY3OrYQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAP1Y1zs0DtVg8GLXtaoPy-TLP6MibVD1zS1KJhp9V6P4RyaGLA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear List,

Narratology has roots not only in German scholarship, as Dipak has pointed
out.  It also has deep roots in Russian semiotics [see Propp, Jakobson,
Lotman, Ivanov, and Toporov et al.]. Two important Indologists had deep
connections with this school: T. Elizarenkova and Boris Oguibenine,  who
is, I think, still a member of this list.  Narratology was also nurtured by
French scholars, influenced by Levi-Strauss and his brand of structuralism.

Indo-Europeanists interested not only in IE linguistics, but also in IE
poetics, also have spent much tim




On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Dipak Bhattacharya <dipak.d2004 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> 1.9.14
>
> German philology has the term Rahmen-erz?hlung literally 'Frame
> narration'. I am speaking from unrecorded memory. It was discussed by some
> acquaintances including me long ago. I do not remember the context and the
> sequel. It neatly defines the Indian narration structure. This may be
> probed into. There is no dearth of knowledgeable German friends who might
> help.
>
> Best
>
> DB
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Harsha Dehejia <harshadehejia at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Friends:
>>
>> One of my students is working on Narratalogy in the Indian Tradition.
>>
>> While we have enough information on how stories are told, we seem to be
>> lacking information on how stories are structured.
>>
>> Any help would be most helpful.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Harsha
>> Prof. Harsha V. Dehajia
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>> http://listinfo.indology.info
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
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From gthomgt at gmail.com  Mon Sep  1 19:07:53 2014
From: gthomgt at gmail.com (George Thompson)
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 14 15:07:53 -0400
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Narratology
In-Reply-To: <CAP1Y1zs0DtVg8GLXtaoPy-TLP6MibVD1zS1KJhp9V6P4RyaGLA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAP1Y1zsXnoqyWovupyhntxUbdPF6KOU68xx+9X2TyX5oxVQyyg@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry to have sent this incomplete message.  My fingers are not as fast as
my thoughts.... gp

Briefly,

Indo-Europeanists interested not only in IE linguistics, but also in IE
poetics, also have spent much time on inherited narrative techniques in IE
narrative texts.  See Calvert Watkins, Rudiger Schmitt, et al.  They have
long known of the historical links between classical Indian narrative
techniques and related techniques in other IE traditions.

We find in the Bhagavad Gita, for example, heavy use of chiasmus [ a
pattern: abccba, etc], just as in the Homeric epics.

I could go on and on, but I need to get on


On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 2:52 PM, George Thompson <gthomgt at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear List,
>
> Narratology has roots not only in German scholarship, as Dipak has pointed
> out.  It also has deep roots in Russian semiotics [see Propp, Jakobson,
> Lotman, Ivanov, and Toporov et al.]. Two important Indologists had deep
> connections with this school: T. Elizarenkova and Boris Oguibenine,  who
> is, I think, still a member of this list.  Narratology was also nurtured by
> French scholars, influenced by Levi-Strauss and his brand of structuralism.
>
> Indo-Europeanists interested not only in IE linguistics, but also in IE
> poetics, also have spent much tim
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Dipak Bhattacharya <dipak.d2004 at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> 1.9.14
>>
>> German philology has the term Rahmen-erz?hlung literally 'Frame
>> narration'. I am speaking from unrecorded memory. It was discussed by some
>> acquaintances including me long ago. I do not remember the context and the
>> sequel. It neatly defines the Indian narration structure. This may be
>> probed into. There is no dearth of knowledgeable German friends who might
>> help.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> DB
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Harsha Dehejia <harshadehejia at hotmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Friends:
>>>
>>> One of my students is working on Narratalogy in the Indian Tradition.
>>>
>>> While we have enough information on how stories are told, we seem to be
>>> lacking information on how stories are structured.
>>>
>>> Any help would be most helpful.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Harsha
>>> Prof. Harsha V. Dehajia
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>>> http://listinfo.indology.info
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>> http://listinfo.indology.info
>>
>
>


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From chris_gibbons at me.com  Mon Sep  1 23:11:31 2014
From: chris_gibbons at me.com (CHRISTOPHER GIBBONS)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 14 09:11:31 +1000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Narratology
In-Reply-To: <CAP1Y1zsXnoqyWovupyhntxUbdPF6KOU68xx+9X2TyX5oxVQyyg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <35BA2A12-0A8F-46CF-B347-4385B5047086@me.com>

James Hegarty?s Religion, Narrative and Public Imagination in South Asia: Past and place in the Sanskrit Mah?bh?rata. Routledge. 2012, will be useful and will provide some additional bibliographic leads. Best, Chris

On 2 Sep 2014, at 5:07 am, George Thompson <gthomgt at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry to have sent this incomplete message.  My fingers are not as fast as my thoughts.... gp
> 
> Briefly, 
> 
> Indo-Europeanists interested not only in IE linguistics, but also in IE poetics, also have spent much time on inherited narrative techniques in IE narrative texts.  See Calvert Watkins, Rudiger Schmitt, et al.  They have long known of the historical links between classical Indian narrative techniques and related techniques in other IE traditions.
> 
> We find in the Bhagavad Gita, for example, heavy use of chiasmus [ a pattern: abccba, etc], just as in the Homeric epics.
> 
> I could go on and on, but I need to get on
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 2:52 PM, George Thompson <gthomgt at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear List,
> 
> Narratology has roots not only in German scholarship, as Dipak has pointed out.  It also has deep roots in Russian semiotics [see Propp, Jakobson, Lotman, Ivanov, and Toporov et al.]. Two important Indologists had deep connections with this school: T. Elizarenkova and Boris Oguibenine,  who is, I think, still a member of this list.  Narratology was also nurtured by French scholars, influenced by Levi-Strauss and his brand of structuralism.
> 
> Indo-Europeanists interested not only in IE linguistics, but also in IE poetics, also have spent much tim
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Dipak Bhattacharya <dipak.d2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 1.9.14
> 
> German philology has the term Rahmen-erz?hlung literally 'Frame narration'. I am speaking from unrecorded memory. It was discussed by some acquaintances including me long ago. I do not remember the context and the sequel. It neatly defines the Indian narration structure. This may be probed into. There is no dearth of knowledgeable German friends who might help.
> 
> Best
> 
> DB
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Harsha Dehejia <harshadehejia at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Friends:
> 
> One of my students is working on Narratalogy in the Indian Tradition.
> 
> While we have enough information on how stories are told, we seem to be lacking information on how stories are structured.
> 
> Any help would be most helpful.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Harsha 
> Prof. Harsha V. Dehajia
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info








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From Greg.Bailey at latrobe.edu.au  Tue Sep  2 00:59:09 2014
From: Greg.Bailey at latrobe.edu.au (Greg Bailey)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 14 00:59:09 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Narratology
In-Reply-To: <BLU179-W1F19EEE53D8F17A1D31A5A0C60@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <D02B536D.891E%greg.bailey@latrobe.edu.au>

Dear Harsha,

Your student may find something of interest in my translation and study of the Ga?e?a Pu???a.  The Introduction to the first volume and the notes to both volumes have much to say about formal narrative structures.

Here are a few others:

A.Mangels, Erz?hltechnik im Mah?bh?rata, Hamburg, 1994.
Bowles, A, Dharma, Disorder and the Political in Ancient India: The ?paddharmaparvan of the Mah?bh?rata, Brill, 2007.
Renou, L. Sur La Structure Du K?vya, JA, 1959, 1?113.

Alf Hiltebeitel's work is also important here and no doubt there are many others.  You will also find some relevant material in the volumes of the Dubrovnik International Conference on the Sanskrit Epics and Pur??as.


Cheers,


Greg Bailey


From: Harsha Dehejia <harshadehejia at hotmail.com<mailto:harshadehejia at hotmail.com>>
Date: Monday, 1 September 2014 8:58 PM
To: Indology List <indology at list.indology.info<mailto:indology at list.indology.info>>
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Narratology

Friends:

One of my students is working on Narratalogy in the Indian Tradition.

While we have enough information on how stories are told, we seem to be lacking information on how stories are structured.

Any help would be most helpful.

Kind regards,

Harsha
Prof. Harsha V. Dehajia

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From dipak.d2004 at gmail.com  Tue Sep  2 03:12:39 2014
From: dipak.d2004 at gmail.com (Dipak Bhattacharya)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 14 08:42:39 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Narratology
In-Reply-To: <CAP1Y1zs0DtVg8GLXtaoPy-TLP6MibVD1zS1KJhp9V6P4RyaGLA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABEB9q+r=wt_XF_PARqRPx-C7W-p2wVRqLeaUosJVKUD3Kmz9g@mail.gmail.com>

02 09 14

Thanks George! I have no difference with you. My narrowing of the choice,
instead of using a more inclusive term like, say, *Deutschologists*, was
inadvertent.

One thing. By *Rahmen-erz?lung* I tried to mean the structure of narration
within narration that is very prominent in Indian story-telling,
occasionally leading to the loss of the thread.  There are several other
types of structure that George's references include.

In any case, I enjoyed the postings.

Thanks again!

Best

DB




On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 12:22 AM, George Thompson <gthomgt at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear List,
>
> Narratology has roots not only in German scholarship, as Dipak has pointed
> out.  It also has deep roots in Russian semiotics [see Propp, Jakobson,
> Lotman, Ivanov, and Toporov et al.]. Two important Indologists had deep
> connections with this school: T. Elizarenkova and Boris Oguibenine,  who
> is, I think, still a member of this list.  Narratology was also nurtured by
> French scholars, influenced by Levi-Strauss and his brand of structuralism.
>
> Indo-Europeanists interested not only in IE linguistics, but also in IE
> poetics, also have spent much tim
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Dipak Bhattacharya <dipak.d2004 at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> 1.9.14
>>
>> German philology has the term Rahmen-erz?hlung literally 'Frame
>> narration'. I am speaking from unrecorded memory. It was discussed by some
>> acquaintances including me long ago. I do not remember the context and the
>> sequel. It neatly defines the Indian narration structure. This may be
>> probed into. There is no dearth of knowledgeable German friends who might
>> help.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> DB
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Harsha Dehejia <harshadehejia at hotmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Friends:
>>>
>>> One of my students is working on Narratalogy in the Indian Tradition.
>>>
>>> While we have enough information on how stories are told, we seem to be
>>> lacking information on how stories are structured.
>>>
>>> Any help would be most helpful.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Harsha
>>> Prof. Harsha V. Dehajia
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>>> http://listinfo.indology.info
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>> http://listinfo.indology.info
>>
>
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From slaje at kabelmail.de  Tue Sep  2 06:14:01 2014
From: slaje at kabelmail.de (Walter Slaje)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 14 08:14:01 +0200
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Narratology
In-Reply-To: <CABEB9q+r=wt_XF_PARqRPx-C7W-p2wVRqLeaUosJVKUD3Kmz9g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALoZ1nVh-Cs6XXVix2VfPq8va-sEU2AQOKi0TMZ+Rt3p2TFX+g@mail.gmail.com>

I would like to draw the attention of those interested in the subject to
the two papers cited below as well as to the list attached here with 72
titles generated within a few seconds from the SARDS3 database (
http://www.sards.uni-halle.de/sards/) by simply entering the keyword
"narrative".


 Witzel, Michael: On the origin of the literary device of the ?Frame Story?
in Old Indian literature. In: Hinduismus und Buddhismus, Festschrift f?r
Ulrich Schneider, hrsg. v. Harry Falk. Freiburg, 1987, pp. 380-414.



Minkowski, C. Z.: Janamejaya's sattra and ritual structure, in: Journal of
the American Oriental Society, 109, 1989, pp. 401-420.


Regards,
WS


-----------------------------
Prof. Dr. Walter Slaje
Hermann-L?ns-Str. 1
D-99425 Weimar
Deutschland

Ego ex animi mei sententia spondeo ac polliceor
studia humanitatis impigro labore culturum et provecturum
non sordidi lucri causa nec ad vanam captandam gloriam,
sed quo magis veritas propagetur et lux eius, qua salus
humani generis continetur, clarius effulgeat.
Vindobonae, die XXI. mensis Novembris MCMLXXXIII.


2014-09-02 5:12 GMT+02:00 Dipak Bhattacharya <dipak.d2004 at gmail.com>:

> 02 09 14
>
> Thanks George! I have no difference with you. My narrowing of the choice,
> instead of using a more inclusive term like, say, *Deutschologists*, was
> inadvertent.
>
> One thing. By *Rahmen-erz?lung* I tried to mean the structure of
> narration within narration that is very prominent in Indian story-telling,
> occasionally leading to the loss of the thread.  There are several other
> types of structure that George's references include.
>
> In any case, I enjoyed the postings.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Best
>
> DB
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 12:22 AM, George Thompson <gthomgt at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear List,
>>
>> Narratology has roots not only in German scholarship, as Dipak has
>> pointed out.  It also has deep roots in Russian semiotics [see Propp,
>> Jakobson, Lotman, Ivanov, and Toporov et al.]. Two important Indologists
>> had deep connections with this school: T. Elizarenkova and Boris
>> Oguibenine,  who is, I think, still a member of this list.  Narratology was
>> also nurtured by French scholars, influenced by Levi-Strauss and his brand
>> of structuralism.
>>
>> Indo-Europeanists interested not only in IE linguistics, but also in IE
>> poetics, also have spent much tim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Dipak Bhattacharya <
>> dipak.d2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 1.9.14
>>>
>>> German philology has the term Rahmen-erz?hlung literally 'Frame
>>> narration'. I am speaking from unrecorded memory. It was discussed by some
>>> acquaintances including me long ago. I do not remember the context and the
>>> sequel. It neatly defines the Indian narration structure. This may be
>>> probed into. There is no dearth of knowledgeable German friends who might
>>> help.
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> DB
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Harsha Dehejia <
>>> harshadehejia at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Friends:
>>>>
>>>> One of my students is working on Narratalogy in the Indian Tradition.
>>>>
>>>> While we have enough information on how stories are told, we seem to be
>>>> lacking information on how stories are structured.
>>>>
>>>> Any help would be most helpful.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>> Harsha
>>>> Prof. Harsha V. Dehajia
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>>>> http://listinfo.indology.info
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>>> http://listinfo.indology.info
>>>
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From gruenen at sub.uni-goettingen.de  Tue Sep  2 15:07:33 2014
From: gruenen at sub.uni-goettingen.de (Gruenendahl, Reinhold)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 14 15:07:33 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] GRETIL update #444
Message-ID: <044C4CE033BD474EBE2ACACE8E4B1D949C6B66BF@UM-excdag-a02.um.gwdg.de>



GRETIL is pleased to be able to report the following addition(s) to its collection:


PTS/Dhammakaya versions, both annotated and plain text of:


Anguttaranikaya 4:
http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm#Angutt


Buddhavamsa:
http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm#Buddhav


Dhammapada:
http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm#Dhammap



__________________________________________________________________________

"GRETIL is intended as a cumulative register of the numerous download sites for electronic texts in Indian languages." (from the 2001 "mission statement")

GRETIL - Goettingen Register of Electronic Texts in Indian Languages:

http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm






From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com  Tue Sep  2 16:51:25 2014
From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 14 22:21:25 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Narratology
Message-ID: <CAJGj9eYjcysR=UP-ALTdPa-65_oi+-Z1bxDPeOagP3W6+hiEsA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Harsha,

https://archive.org/details/Dasarupaka has English translation of
Dhananjaya's Das'aroopaka which has an elaborate discussion on how stories
are structured. It is called Pancha Sandhi structure. Each Sandhi is made
up of a combination of an Arthaprakriti and a Kaaryaavastha.

Kaaryaavasthas: aarambha, yatna, praaptyaas'a, niyataapti
and phalaagama/phalayoga.

Arthaprakritis: beeja, bindu, pataaka, prakaree and kaarya

Sandhis :mukha, pratimukha, garbha, avamars'a and upasamhriti/nirvahaNa


There are other ways of analysing plot too in other books of Indian poetics.

Best wishes to your student.

Regards,

Nagaraj



-- 
Prof.Nagaraj Paturi
Hyderabad-500044


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From dipak.d2004 at gmail.com  Tue Sep  2 17:38:10 2014
From: dipak.d2004 at gmail.com (Dipak Bhattacharya)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 14 23:08:10 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Narratology
In-Reply-To: <CAJGj9eYjcysR=UP-ALTdPa-65_oi+-Z1bxDPeOagP3W6+hiEsA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABEB9qJC_DWRb4duhHCBc2pMKxvDO0-wrmvQOgwfduvfXDLWDg@mail.gmail.com>

Please forgive this intrusion. I just wonder if Dhananjaya's structure
holds good for story or only for drama. naa.taka.m khyaatavrtta.m syaat
pa;ncasandhisamanvitam is so well known that it made me inquisitive.
Best
DB


On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear Harsha,
>
> https://archive.org/details/Dasarupaka has English translation of
> Dhananjaya's Das'aroopaka which has an elaborate discussion on how stories
> are structured. It is called Pancha Sandhi structure. Each Sandhi is made
> up of a combination of an Arthaprakriti and a Kaaryaavastha.
>
> Kaaryaavasthas: aarambha, yatna, praaptyaas'a, niyataapti
> and phalaagama/phalayoga.
>
> Arthaprakritis: beeja, bindu, pataaka, prakaree and kaarya
>
> Sandhis :mukha, pratimukha, garbha, avamars'a and upasamhriti/nirvahaNa
>
>
> There are other ways of analysing plot too in other books of Indian
> poetics.
>
> Best wishes to your student.
>
> Regards,
>
> Nagaraj
>
>
>
> --
> Prof.Nagaraj Paturi
> Hyderabad-500044
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
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From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com  Wed Sep  3 02:12:28 2014
From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi)
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 14 07:42:28 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Narratology
In-Reply-To: <CABEB9qJC_DWRb4duhHCBc2pMKxvDO0-wrmvQOgwfduvfXDLWDg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJGj9eYHavjb4rFMpbQ81Npci3Fp5ThLkqdVGcSEpp8_28GQLQ@mail.gmail.com>

1. In fact it has been applied to the story of Ramayana too.

2. In Das'aroopaka too this comes as part of discussion of Vastu, Vastu in
general and not Vastu of Rupaka alone. Vastubhedas such as Prakhyaata,
Utpaadya and Mis'ra also , though discussed in Das'aroopaka are applied to
the Vastus or Itivrittas of S'ravyakaavyas als.

3. S'aakuntalam is not khyaatavrittam. It is mis'ravrittam.

4. Whether the Panchasandhi structure helps in understanding Vastus of
Roopakas alone or it applies to Vastus of other narrative literary works
also, can be checked by literary scholars. There is nothing inside the
theory which is roopaka-specific.

5. Comparable to this in the western poetics is the  five part structure of
exposition, rising action, climax/crisis, falling action,
denoument/resolution  also in its origin comes from the theory of Drama. Is
it not applied/applicable to other narratives?


On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Dipak Bhattacharya <dipak.d2004 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Please forgive this intrusion. I just wonder if Dhananjaya's structure
> holds good for story or only for drama. naa.taka.m khyaatavrtta.m syaat
> pa;ncasandhisamanvitam is so well known that it made me inquisitive.
> Best
> DB
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Harsha,
>>
>> https://archive.org/details/Dasarupaka has English translation of
>> Dhananjaya's Das'aroopaka which has an elaborate discussion on how stories
>> are structured. It is called Pancha Sandhi structure. Each Sandhi is made
>> up of a combination of an Arthaprakriti and a Kaaryaavastha.
>>
>> Kaaryaavasthas: aarambha, yatna, praaptyaas'a, niyataapti
>> and phalaagama/phalayoga.
>>
>> Arthaprakritis: beeja, bindu, pataaka, prakaree and kaarya
>>
>> Sandhis :mukha, pratimukha, garbha, avamars'a and upasamhriti/nirvahaNa
>>
>>
>> There are other ways of analysing plot too in other books of Indian
>> poetics.
>>
>> Best wishes to your student.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Nagaraj
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Prof.Nagaraj Paturi
>> Hyderabad-500044
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>> http://listinfo.indology.info
>>
>
>


-- 
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Hyderabad-500044


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From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com  Wed Sep  3 06:30:33 2014
From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi)
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 14 12:00:33 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Narratology
In-Reply-To: <CABEB9qJC_DWRb4duhHCBc2pMKxvDO0-wrmvQOgwfduvfXDLWDg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJGj9eZeSGRqxN4eedFevh_hqk9p=3mKmCg+5_gupkWhJp9JWA@mail.gmail.com>

While searching on the net for other attempts to extend the Panchasandhi
structure to non-rupaka works, I came across

http://www.santasa.org/articles.php?Page=9&cat_id=1

on which in an article on ??????? , the author is found to apply the model
to the theory of business organization, and towards the conclusion of this
part of the article, he says,


??????? ??? ???????? ??? ?? ??? ????????????? ??? ????? ?? ????? ???? ??
??? ?? ??????? ???? ?? ???? ?? ????? ??? ?? ?????????? ??? ?? ?? ????????
??????? ?? ??????? ?????? ?? ?? ???? ????? ?????? ???????? ??????? ?? ????
???

????? ?? ????? ???? ?? ??? ?? ??????? ???? ?? ???? ?? ????? ???

I found his roopak ya kathaa kee saahitya vidhaa matching here.









On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Dipak Bhattacharya <dipak.d2004 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Please forgive this intrusion. I just wonder if Dhananjaya's structure
> holds good for story or only for drama. naa.taka.m khyaatavrtta.m syaat
> pa;ncasandhisamanvitam is so well known that it made me inquisitive.
> Best
> DB
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Harsha,
>>
>> https://archive.org/details/Dasarupaka has English translation of
>> Dhananjaya's Das'aroopaka which has an elaborate discussion on how stories
>> are structured. It is called Pancha Sandhi structure. Each Sandhi is made
>> up of a combination of an Arthaprakriti and a Kaaryaavastha.
>>
>> Kaaryaavasthas: aarambha, yatna, praaptyaas'a, niyataapti
>> and phalaagama/phalayoga.
>>
>> Arthaprakritis: beeja, bindu, pataaka, prakaree and kaarya
>>
>> Sandhis :mukha, pratimukha, garbha, avamars'a and upasamhriti/nirvahaNa
>>
>>
>> There are other ways of analysing plot too in other books of Indian
>> poetics.
>>
>> Best wishes to your student.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Nagaraj
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Prof.Nagaraj Paturi
>> Hyderabad-500044
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>> http://listinfo.indology.info
>>
>
>


-- 
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Hyderabad-500044


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From lavanyavemsani at gmail.com  Wed Sep  3 21:57:23 2014
From: lavanyavemsani at gmail.com (Lavanya Vemsani)
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 14 17:57:23 -0400
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Call for papers JSARH
Message-ID: <CADUnV1091tB-j4b8osYz27i8YoddHxON__Y1wxkv+xJiHh=x3w@mail.gmail.com>

 Hello All,
Please see below JSARH call for paper. Next issue is slated for publication
in January, 2015.
Thank you,
Lavanya

*CALL FOR PAPERS:* The *Journal of South Asian Religious History* calls for
original papers for inclusion in its inaugural January-February 2015 issue.
*JSARH* is the first scholarly journal devoted solely to the role of faith
systems in the history of the subcontinent as part of a broader effort to
increase understanding of Hinduism and its variants, Buddhism, South Asian
Islam, Jainism, Sikhism, and other South Asian religious traditions *as
historical agents* (with special emphasis on religion-and-politics) in
South Asia, the Indian Ocean rim, and the wider world. Paper topics should
focus on some aspect of one or more South Asian religious tradition *as a
force in subcontinental history*. Emphasis should be on history rather than
theology and/or religious practice. Topics of any historical era will be
considered, with preference given to papers highlighting the
religion-and-politics phenomenon, especially in the early modern or modern
periods.



For more information, please visit:

http://www.jsarh.com/submissions/


-- 

*Dr. Lavanya Vemsani*  Ph.D. History (Univ. of Hyderabad) & Ph.D. Religious
Studies (McMaster Univ.)

Distinguished Professor of History, Department of Social Sciences

Portsmouth OH 45662

V:7403513233 F:7403513153 E:lvemsani at shawnee.edu


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From ambapradeep at gmail.com  Thu Sep  4 10:32:35 2014
From: ambapradeep at gmail.com (Amba Kulkarni)
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 14 16:02:35 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Concordance of dhaatuv.rttis
Message-ID: <CAFffahDpN-MJvHidH8AuofE36cP6NuGpR47-RavSmv0W1qxbWg@mail.gmail.com>

Dear all,


I am glad to announce another valuable resource from the Department of
Sanskrit Studies, University of Hyderabad.

Dr. Shailaja  compared 3 important Dhaatuv.rttis: Maadhaviiya,
K.siiratara.ngi.nii and Dhaatupradiipa, and the resulting concordance is
available at http://sanskrit.uohyd.ernet.in/scl/dhaatupaatha


With regards,
Amba Kulkarni

-- 
? ?? ?????: ?????? ????? ??????: ll
Let noble thoughts come to us from every side.
- Rig Veda, I-89-i.
Assoc Prof.  and Head
Department of Sanskrit Studies
University of Hyderabad
Prof. C.R. Rao Road
Hyderabad-500 046

(91) 040 23133802(off)

http://sanskrit.uohyd.ernet.in/scl
http://sanskrit.uohyd.ernet.in/faculty/amba


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From gruenen at sub.uni-goettingen.de  Thu Sep  4 15:27:38 2014
From: gruenen at sub.uni-goettingen.de (Gruenendahl, Reinhold)
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 14 15:27:38 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] GRETIL update #445: revised versions of some Pali files recently uploaded
Message-ID: <044C4CE033BD474EBE2ACACE8E4B1D949C6B88A8@UM-excdag-a02.um.gwdg.de>

GRETIL users please note that in the "plain text versions" of the PTS files uploaded between July 10 and September 2, 2014, a considerable number of blanks/spaces between words were deleted due to an issue in the routine for removing the footnote numbers. (The corresponding files "in original PTS layout" are not affected.)

The problem has meanwhile been fixed, and all files affected have been replaced today (16:00 CEST).

Please download these files again, either individually or collectively in the zip archive file provided for the respective encoding:
http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm#Hist

Apologies for the inconvenience.

Reinhold Gr?nendahl







__________________________________________________________________________

"GRETIL is intended as a cumulative register of the numerous download sites for electronic texts in Indian languages." (from the 2001 "mission statement")

GRETIL - Goettingen Register of Electronic Texts in Indian Languages:

http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm






From drdhaval2785 at gmail.com  Thu Sep  4 17:33:50 2014
From: drdhaval2785 at gmail.com (dhaval patel)
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 14 10:33:50 -0700
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Subanta generation machine PHP open source
Message-ID: <CADSGPzWgxK2hXnfX64qJ-4pB2Cub3q+bYPTMzB_iUo0UZHxMXg@mail.gmail.com>

Dear all,
Please find attached the test page for a PHP based machine for subanta
generation according to Siddhanta kaumudi.
http://lanover.com/lan/sanskrit/subanta.html

The code can be seen at https://github.com/drdhaval2785/sanskrit

The machine gives step by step derivation of words as per prakriyA
mentioned in Siddhantakaumudi.
Respected scholars may please have a look at it and suggest corrections
where the machine is off the correct derivation process.
Please send corrections off list, so that they can be incorporated.

"Documentation" and "Known Issues" are in progress.
I am attaching a sample page of 'rAma' derivation for ready reference.

-- 
Dr. Dhaval Patel, I.A.S
District Development Officer, Rajkot
www.sanskritworld.in




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From drdhaval2785 at gmail.com  Thu Sep  4 17:37:13 2014
From: drdhaval2785 at gmail.com (dhaval patel)
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 14 10:37:13 -0700
Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtJTkRPTE9HWV0Je+CkreCkvuCksOCkpOClgOCkr+CkteCkv+CkpuCljeCkteCkpOCljeCkquCksOCkv+Ckt+CkpOCljX0gU3ViYW50YSBnZW5lcmF0aW9uIG1hY2hpbmUgUEhQIG9wZW4gc291cmNl?=
In-Reply-To: <CADSGPzWgxK2hXnfX64qJ-4pB2Cub3q+bYPTMzB_iUo0UZHxMXg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADSGPzXt2aSWCwhp_9R4i+=+C-3_TFcm0SUnERJb8JvVpQeTgw@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry, forgot to mention.
Because of long code, the output may take 1-2 minutes. Be patient please.


On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:33 AM, dhaval patel <drdhaval2785 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear all,
> Please find attached the test page for a PHP based machine for subanta
> generation according to Siddhanta kaumudi.
> http://lanover.com/lan/sanskrit/subanta.html
>
> The code can be seen at https://github.com/drdhaval2785/sanskrit
>
> The machine gives step by step derivation of words as per prakriyA
> mentioned in Siddhantakaumudi.
> Respected scholars may please have a look at it and suggest corrections
> where the machine is off the correct derivation process.
> Please send corrections off list, so that they can be incorporated.
>
> "Documentation" and "Known Issues" are in progress.
> I am attaching a sample page of 'rAma' derivation for ready reference.
>
> --
> Dr. Dhaval Patel, I.A.S
> District Development Officer, Rajkot
> www.sanskritworld.in
>
> --
> ??????????????? ?????? ???????? ??????????? (?.??.)
> ---
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-- 
Dr. Dhaval Patel, I.A.S
District Development Officer, Rajkot
www.sanskritworld.in


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From mmdesh at umich.edu  Thu Sep  4 18:22:14 2014
From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande)
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 14 14:22:14 -0400
Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtJTkRPTE9HWV0Je+CkreCkvuCksOCkpOClgOCkr+CkteCkv+CkpuCljeCkteCkpOCljeCkquCksOCkv+Ckt+CkpOCljX0gU3ViYW50YSBnZW5lcmF0aW9uIG1hY2hpbmUgUEhQIG9wZW4gc291cmNl?=
In-Reply-To: <CADSGPzXt2aSWCwhp_9R4i+=+C-3_TFcm0SUnERJb8JvVpQeTgw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAB3-dzcuE3fNOnjQbGU3Y4NCRuptHqJJHdXYWFgcp_QpM1ertw@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Dr. Patel,

     Congratulations upon developing this wonderful software that fully
illustrates the Paninian derivations for nominal case forms.  One of my
classmates from the Pune University in the years 1967-68, Pandit Athalekar,
used to produce such full derivations on the spot.  But alas, he is no
longer alive.
     With best wishes for your work,

Madhav Deshpande
Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA


On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 1:37 PM, dhaval patel <drdhaval2785 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry, forgot to mention.
> Because of long code, the output may take 1-2 minutes. Be patient please.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:33 AM, dhaval patel <drdhaval2785 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>> Please find attached the test page for a PHP based machine for subanta
>> generation according to Siddhanta kaumudi.
>> http://lanover.com/lan/sanskrit/subanta.html
>>
>> The code can be seen at https://github.com/drdhaval2785/sanskrit
>>
>> The machine gives step by step derivation of words as per prakriyA
>> mentioned in Siddhantakaumudi.
>> Respected scholars may please have a look at it and suggest corrections
>> where the machine is off the correct derivation process.
>> Please send corrections off list, so that they can be incorporated.
>>
>> "Documentation" and "Known Issues" are in progress.
>> I am attaching a sample page of 'rAma' derivation for ready reference.
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Dhaval Patel, I.A.S
>> District Development Officer, Rajkot
>> www.sanskritworld.in
>>
>> --
>> ??????????????? ?????? ???????? ??????????? (?.??.)
>> ---
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "???????????????????" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to bvparishat+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com.
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>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Dhaval Patel, I.A.S
> District Development Officer, Rajkot
> www.sanskritworld.in
>
> _______________________________________________
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>



-- 
Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
The University of Michigan
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From wujastyk at gmail.com  Fri Sep  5 09:59:18 2014
From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 14 11:59:18 +0200
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Newly published volumes of the New Catalogus	Catalogorum: NCC 33-36
Message-ID: <CAKdt-Ce29PwuvhPHOb2UpACV1ydVMNFgfh2DDN4uN5RzquDEFg@mail.gmail.com>

---------- Forwarded message ----------

From: Siniruddha Dash <siniruddhad at gmail.com>
Date: 5 September 2014 11:51
Subject: NCC 33-36


Dear Sir/Madam,
Namaskar. I am very  happy to inform you that another 4 vols.( 33-36) of
NCC are now published.. I express my thankfulness to you for your kind
support and encouragement.I hope another 3 vols.(37-39) will also be
published soon.
With regards
Yours sincerely
Prof Dash

-- 
Prof. Siniruddha Dash
Former H.O.D. & Director, NCC, Project
Dept. of Sanskrit
University of Madras
Chennai-600005


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From drdhaval2785 at gmail.com  Fri Sep  5 10:16:00 2014
From: drdhaval2785 at gmail.com (dhaval patel)
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 14 03:16:00 -0700
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Subanta generation machine PHP open source
In-Reply-To: <f99d25b9-9349-42bd-b2dc-af558b205ebb@googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <CADSGPzXDYbLGRPk-BntH9Q8URNTFsmbqfyMnjrtfJoo1ibU8LA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for suggestion Usha,
I am attaching a link to Google Doc where we can document the issues.
Some of the issues in testing are already noted there.
I have made the document public.
List members may add wrong derivation in the space for that particular word.
If testing with new word, please do add it and then note the issue.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jcMhZpOIUP2j32Ce6m9yAzmSAAJ1E5LyDNaU2Is3mxg/edit?usp=sharing




On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 11:24 PM, Usha Sanka <usha.sanka at gmail.com> wrote:

> Namaste
> Please accept my best wishes.. and abhinandanam first.
> One suggestion- Instead of asking to send corrections off list, why not
> create a google doc and keep it open for everyone to put their comments and
> suggestions as well?
> This will help in avoiding repetition as well as will make it easy for
> you to look at issues all at once.
> -vinItA
> Usha
>
>
> On Thursday, September 4, 2014 11:03:52 PM UTC+5:30, dhaval patel wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>> Please find attached the test page for a PHP based machine for subanta
>> generation according to Siddhanta kaumudi.
>> http://lanover.com/lan/sanskrit/subanta.html
>>
>> The code can be seen at https://github.com/drdhaval2785/sanskrit
>>
>> The machine gives step by step derivation of words as per prakriyA
>> mentioned in Siddhantakaumudi.
>> Respected scholars may please have a look at it and suggest corrections
>> where the machine is off the correct derivation process.
>> Please send corrections off list, so that they can be incorporated.
>>
>> "Documentation" and "Known Issues" are in progress.
>> I am attaching a sample page of 'rAma' derivation for ready reference.
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Dhaval Patel, I.A.S
>> District Development Officer, Rajkot
>> www.sanskritworld.in
>>
>  --
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District Development Officer, Rajkot
www.sanskritworld.in


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From drdhaval2785 at gmail.com  Sun Sep  7 17:32:47 2014
From: drdhaval2785 at gmail.com (dhaval patel)
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 14 10:32:47 -0700
Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtJTkRPTE9HWV0Je+CkreCkvuCksOCkpOClgOCkr+CkteCkv+CkpuCljeCkteCkpOCljeCkquCksOCkv+Ckt+CkpOCljX0gU3ViYW50YSBnZW5lcmF0aW9uIG1hY2hpbmUgUEhQIG9wZW4gc291cmNl?=
In-Reply-To: <CADSGPzXt2aSWCwhp_9R4i+=+C-3_TFcm0SUnERJb8JvVpQeTgw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADSGPzUVXp6tsetz9+ZUAgPeC4Wb5OuwxyK8_d4c3EUfY3gaeg@mail.gmail.com>

Respected scholars,
I am pleased to update you that the documentation of code is over.
Now the documented code is available at
https://github.com/drdhaval2785/sanskrit.
anyone with some basic knowledge of coding will be able to make out the
logic and algorithm used.
Sincerely yours,

On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:37 AM, dhaval patel <drdhaval2785 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Sorry, forgot to mention.
> Because of long code, the output may take 1-2 minutes. Be patient please.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:33 AM, dhaval patel <drdhaval2785 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>> Please find attached the test page for a PHP based machine for subanta
>> generation according to Siddhanta kaumudi.
>> http://lanover.com/lan/sanskrit/subanta.html
>>
>> The code can be seen at https://github.com/drdhaval2785/sanskrit
>>
>> The machine gives step by step derivation of words as per prakriyA
>> mentioned in Siddhantakaumudi.
>> Respected scholars may please have a look at it and suggest corrections
>> where the machine is off the correct derivation process.
>> Please send corrections off list, so that they can be incorporated.
>>
>> "Documentation" and "Known Issues" are in progress.
>> I am attaching a sample page of 'rAma' derivation for ready reference.
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Dhaval Patel, I.A.S
>> District Development Officer, Rajkot
>> www.sanskritworld.in
>>
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> --
> Dr. Dhaval Patel, I.A.S
> District Development Officer, Rajkot
> www.sanskritworld.in
>



-- 
Dr. Dhaval Patel, I.A.S
District Development Officer, Rajkot
www.sanskritworld.in


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From malhar at iitb.ac.in  Mon Sep  8 04:29:38 2014
From: malhar at iitb.ac.in (Malhar Arvind Kulkarni)
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 14 09:59:38 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Subanta generation machine PHP open source
Message-ID: <1fa5aee1a311cfea955194f5e2b6ca80.squirrel@gpo.iitb.ac.in>

Dear Dhaval,

Very good.


Since you say- "The machine gives step by step derivation of words as per
prakriyA mentioned in Siddhantakaumudi.", may I make one suggestion?

1. In the derivation of rAmau (1/2 and 2/2), can you mention the
pratiprasava of 6.1.88?

Also

2. Can you number the steps?

with regards.
Malhar Kulkarni.








From jknutson at hawaii.edu  Mon Sep  8 04:34:15 2014
From: jknutson at hawaii.edu (Jesse Knutson)
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 14 18:34:15 -1000
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_K=C4=81mandak=C4=ABya_N=C4=ABtis=C4=81ra,_ed._Rajendralal_Mitra?=
Message-ID: <CAAiVBEVPVKJLM3CDO_3O=4TgNnKkvHaC7OH+FMvR=ucR+bRnQw@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Friends and Colleagues, Does anyone have access to the K?mandak?ya
N?tis?ra, ed. Rajendralal Mitra (Calcutta, 1982)? I would be very grateful
for a soft copy. I have a bad quality scan which lacks some parts. Thanks,
J


-- 
Jesse Ross Knutson PhD
Assistant Professor of Sanskrit and Bengali, Department of Indo-Pacific
Languages and Literatures
University of Hawai'i at M?noa
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From drdhaval2785 at gmail.com  Mon Sep  8 04:39:02 2014
From: drdhaval2785 at gmail.com (dhaval patel)
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 14 10:09:02 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Subanta generation machine PHP open source
In-Reply-To: <1fa5aee1a311cfea955194f5e2b6ca80.squirrel@gpo.iitb.ac.in>
Message-ID: <CADSGPzUxuAk5UyEFm0Y31TTKLDD35r0oNTnhXKBHos-v=10Y7g@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you very much sir for your suggestions.

2. I will try to number the steps in future version.

1. The machine already shows the thing you are asking for.

You entered: ??? + ? Go Back <http://localhost/sanskrit/subanta.html>

arthavadadhAturapratyayaH prAtipadikam (1.2.45), kRttaddhitasamAsAzca
(1.2.46), pratyayaH (3.1.1), parazca (3.1.2), GyAppradipadikAt (4.1.1),
svaujasamauTCaSTAbhyAmbhisGebhyAmbhyasGasibhyAmbhyasGasosAmGyossup (4.1.2),
vibhaktizca (1.4.104) and supaH (1.4.103) :

??????????????????? ????????????? (?.?.??), ?????????????????? (?.?.??),
???????? (?.?.?), ????? (?.?.?), ????????????????????? (?.?.?),
???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
(?.?.?), ?????????? (?.?.???) ??? ???? (?.?.???) :

1 - ???+?
------------------------------

dvyekayordvivacanaikavacane (1.4.22) :

???????????????????????? (?.?.??) :

1 - ???+?
------------------------------

sarUpANAmekazeSa ekavibhaktau (1.2.64) :

????????????? ????????? (?.?.??) :

1 - ???+?
------------------------------

By suDanapuMsakasya (1.1.43) :

???????????? (?.?.??) :

1 - ???+?
------------------------------

By nAdici (6.1.104) :

N.B. : This is exception to prathamayoH pUrvasavarNaH.

?????? (?.?.???) :

?? ???? ???????? ??????????? ?? ????? ?? ?

1 - ???+?
------------------------------

By vRddhireci (6.1.88) :

?????????? (?.?.??) :

1 - ????+
------------------------------

Final forms are :

????? ??? ??? :

1 - ????





On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Malhar Arvind Kulkarni <malhar at iitb.ac.in>
wrote:

> Dear Dhaval,
>
> Very good.
>
>
> Since you say- "The machine gives step by step derivation of words as per
> prakriyA mentioned in Siddhantakaumudi.", may I make one suggestion?
>
> 1. In the derivation of rAmau (1/2 and 2/2), can you mention the
> pratiprasava of 6.1.88?
>
> Also
>
> 2. Can you number the steps?
>
> with regards.
> Malhar Kulkarni.
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
>



-- 
Dr. Dhaval Patel, I.A.S
District Development Officer, Rajkot
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From gruenen at sub.uni-goettingen.de  Mon Sep  8 16:29:40 2014
From: gruenen at sub.uni-goettingen.de (Gruenendahl, Reinhold)
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 14 16:29:40 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] GRETIL update #446
Message-ID: <044C4CE033BD474EBE2ACACE8E4B1D94A347E0A2@UM-EXCDAG-A01.um.gwdg.de>


GRETIL is pleased to be able to report the following addition(s) to its collection:



Anguttaranikaya 5: PTS/Dhammakaya version, both annotated and plain text
http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm#Angutt



__________________________________________________________________________

"GRETIL is intended as a cumulative register of the numerous download sites for electronic texts in Indian languages." (from the 2001 "mission statement")

GRETIL - Goettingen Register of Electronic Texts in Indian Languages:

http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm






From jknutson at hawaii.edu  Mon Sep  8 23:48:38 2014
From: jknutson at hawaii.edu (Jesse Knutson)
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 14 13:48:38 -1000
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_Thanks_to_Professors_Aklujkar_and_Olivelle_for_N=C4=ABtis=C4=81ra_texts?=
Message-ID: <CAAiVBEVTBWtuqHepPfuC8dEmMCoHTuB9p0fDK8nqwJf7nzxUGw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks so much to Professors Ashok Akuljkar and Patrick Olivelle for
providing not one but three valuable electronic editions of the K?mandak?ya
N?tis?ra. These two great scholars obviously live by the principle ??????
??????????? ????????? ?????, ??????,J

-- 
Jesse Ross Knutson PhD
Assistant Professor of Sanskrit and Bengali, Department of Indo-Pacific
Languages and Literatures
University of Hawai'i at M?noa
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From naomi.appleton at ed.ac.uk  Tue Sep  9 08:09:10 2014
From: naomi.appleton at ed.ac.uk (Naomi Appleton)
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 14 09:09:10 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] CFP: Spalding Symposium on Indian Religions
Message-ID: <12E5E0F7-0591-43FF-B6FE-B6B3B6DC8DFA@ed.ac.uk>

Call for papers: Spalding Symposium on Indian Religions, University of Edinburgh, UK, 10th-12th April 2015. 

We invite proposals for papers for the 40th Spalding Symposium on Indian Religions, which will be held in Edinburgh on 10th-12th April 2015.

The theme this year is ?dialogue?, by which we mean discussion, conversation, debate, argument, and communication between and within the religious traditions of South Asia. Our purview includes both religions of South Asian origin wherever in the world they are being practised, and those of non South Asian origin present within South Asia. We welcome papers based upon all research methods, including textual, historical, ethnographic, sociological and philosophical.

Presenters are usually allocated one hour for their paper and subsequent discussion, and will normally be expected to pay their own conference registration and expenses. (The Symposium fee, including food and accommodation, will be ?190, with a non-residential rate of ?65. Registration details will be sent separately.) In some cases financial assistance for speakers may be available.

We also welcome proposals from doctoral students, who will be allocated a 30 minute slot, and offered free registration at the Symposium.

We are delighted to announce our keynote lectures for the Symposium:

Prof. Stephen C. Berkwitz (Missouri State University): ?So Near Yet So Far: Sri Lankan Strategies for Superseding Indian Cultural Forms?

Prof. Uma Chakravarti (National Fellow, Indian Council of Historical Research): ?Contentious Dialogues: Three Moments From an Argumentative Past?

If you would like to participate in this exciting anniversary symposium please send a title and abstract (maximum 500 words) to the Convenor, Dr Naomi Appleton, at naomi.appleton at ed.ac.uk, by the end of October 2014.

--------------------------------
Dr Naomi Appleton
Chancellor's Fellow in Religious Studies
School of Divinity, University of Edinburgh
naomi.appleton at ed.ac.uk

http://naomiappleton.wordpress.com
http://storyofstoryinsouthasia.wordpress.com

Narrating Karma and Rebirth: Buddhist and Jain Multi-life Stories (Cambridge University Press, 2014) www.cambridge.org/9781107033931 




The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
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From dr.rupalimokashi at gmail.com  Tue Sep  9 16:36:34 2014
From: dr.rupalimokashi at gmail.com (Dr. Rupali Mokashi)
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 14 22:06:34 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] epigraphia india
Message-ID: <CAK2tbYy-evGviXgaXujLeBbxMJNSSEzu08D=pHRYvz3En-F+=Q@mail.gmail.com>

Can anyone share epigraphia indica vol 24 ? I have a copy that has many
missing pages
Rupali Mokashi
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> http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm#Angutt
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________________
>
> "GRETIL is intended as a cumulative register of the numerous download
> sites for electronic texts in Indian languages." (from the 2001 "mission
> statement")
>
> GRETIL - Goettingen Register of Electronic Texts in Indian Languages:
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> Message: 2
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> From: Jesse Knutson <jknutson at hawaii.edu>
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> Subject: [INDOLOGY] Thanks to Professors Aklujkar and Olivelle for
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> Thanks so much to Professors Ashok Akuljkar and Patrick Olivelle for
> providing not one but three valuable electronic editions of the K?mandak?ya
> N?tis?ra. These two great scholars obviously live by the principle ??????
> ??????????? ????????? ?????, ??????,J
>
> --
> Jesse Ross Knutson PhD
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> Languages and Literatures
> University of Hawai'i at M?noa
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From caf57 at cam.ac.uk  Wed Sep 10 14:20:51 2014
From: caf57 at cam.ac.uk (C.A. Formigatti)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 14 15:20:51 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] The South Asian Manuscript Book, Workshop at the Faculty of Asian Middle Eastern Studies, Cambridge, 25th-27th September 2014
Message-ID: <505b03053225c8097ac60effe434a356@cam.ac.uk>

Dear list members,

On behalf of the team of the Sanskrit Manuscripts Project, Cambridge, I 
am glad to announce the upcoming workshop "The South Asian Manuscript 
Book: Material, Textual and Historical Investigations," at the Faculty 
of Asian Middle Eastern Studies, Cambridge, 25th-27th September 2014.

Following the workshop on ?Buddhist Manuscript Culture: Textuality and 
Materiality? held in April 2013, this workshop will once again mainly 
focus on books as cultural artefacts, but it will broaden its scope to 
encompass all the major religious and intellectual traditions that 
constituted the South Asian manuscript culture, many of which are well 
represented in the collections of the University Library at Cambridge. 
Particular attention will be paid to aspects of the history of 
manuscripts in pre-modern South Asia such as their production, physical 
characteristics, decoration, use, circulation, preservation and 
accessibility in relation to broader dimensions of cultural practice, 
religious affiliation, patronage and locality. Its echoes and parallels 
in other parts of Asia, such as Tibet and Southeast Asia, will also be 
part of the picture.

The workshop is open for anyone who wishes to attend. Any queries can be 
sent to me off list.

Please find the programme attached. The programme is also available 
online on the project weblog 
(http://sanskrit.lib.cam.ac.uk/the-south-asian-manuscript-book-material-textual-and-historical-investigations).

Best wishes,

Camillo A. Formigatti

Research Associate
Faculty of Asian & Middle Eastern Studies
University of Cambridge
Sidgwick Avenue
Cambridge CB3 9DA
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From hegartyjm at googlemail.com  Thu Sep 11 08:30:13 2014
From: hegartyjm at googlemail.com (James Hegarty)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 14 09:30:13 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] request for Sanskrit text
Message-ID: <DF2530CF-31DE-41D8-8E25-45E3134DB79E@googlemail.com>

Dear Colleagues,

Does anyone have an e-text or scan of the Upamiti-Bhava-Prapancha-Katha?

It was recently recommended to me, but I am having trouble locating an electronic copy.

Thanks,

James Hegarty
Cardiff University




From evadeclercq at hotmail.com  Thu Sep 11 09:57:31 2014
From: evadeclercq at hotmail.com (Eva De Clercq)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 14 11:57:31 +0200
Subject: [INDOLOGY] request for Sanskrit text
In-Reply-To: <DF2530CF-31DE-41D8-8E25-45E3134DB79E@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU436-SMTP217A39A9F946095C9A4B818B6CC0@phx.gbl>

Dear James,

Your can find scanned editions of this and other Jain texts on websites 
such as www.jainlibrary.org. They tend to use spelling for modern Indian 
languages.  I found it by searching under "upmiti" instead of "upamiti".

Best regards,

Eva

Eva De Clercq
Ghent University

James Hegarty schreef op 11/09/2014 10:30:
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> Does anyone have an e-text or scan of the Upamiti-Bhava-Prapancha-Katha?
>
> It was recently recommended to me, but I am having trouble locating an electronic copy.
>
> Thanks,
>
> James Hegarty
> Cardiff University
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info






From mmdesh at umich.edu  Thu Sep 11 10:36:42 2014
From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 14 06:36:42 -0400
Subject: [INDOLOGY] request for Sanskrit text
In-Reply-To: <DF2530CF-31DE-41D8-8E25-45E3134DB79E@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <CAB3-dzc1gOySPj7LGAiKpeuAu-KWBijnci0LWgpyxs1WDV4D9g@mail.gmail.com>

Hello James,

     If you are not able to download this text from the Jainlibrary.org,
let me know.  I can send it to you using WeTransfer.com.  It is a 30mb pdf
file.

Madhav Deshpande



On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 4:30 AM, James Hegarty <hegartyjm at googlemail.com>
wrote:

> Dear Colleagues,
>
> Does anyone have an e-text or scan of the Upamiti-Bhava-Prapancha-Katha?
>
> It was recently recommended to me, but I am having trouble locating an
> electronic copy.
>
> Thanks,
>
> James Hegarty
> Cardiff University
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
>



-- 
Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
The University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48104-1608, USA


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From heike.moser at uni-tuebingen.de  Thu Sep 11 12:17:48 2014
From: heike.moser at uni-tuebingen.de (Heike Oberlin)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 14 14:17:48 +0200
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Tuebingen, October 25&26: Workshop on Manuscripts from Kerala (Malayalam & Grantha)
Message-ID: <20140911141748.38914rly2y9tkagc@webmail.uni-tuebingen.de>



Dear members of the list,

we are happy to announce another workshop as part of the focus on  
South Indian Studies at T?bingen University  
(http://www.uni-tuebingen.de/de/28775).

On the 25th and 26th of October, P.L. Shaji will conduct a seminar on  
Manuscripts from Kerala, focusing on Malayalam and Grantha scripts.
Please find attached the program with all details.


All the best
Heike Oberlin & Elena Mucciarelli




-------------------

Priv.-Doz. Dr. Heike Oberlin (Moser)
Akademische R?tin

Eberhard Karls Universit?t T?bingen
Asien-Orient-Institut (AOI)
Abteilung f?r Indologie und Vergleichende Religionswissenschaft
Gartenstr. 19 ? 72074 T?bingen
Telefon 07071 29-74005 ? Mobil 0176 20030066 ? Fax 07071 29-2675
heike.oberlin at uni-tuebingen.de

http://www.uni-tuebingen.de/aoi/indologie/mitarbeiter/heike-oberlin-moser.html
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From joduquette at gmail.com  Fri Sep 12 07:01:36 2014
From: joduquette at gmail.com (Jonathan Duquette)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 14 16:01:36 +0900
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_Commentaries_on_the_Tattvacint=C4=81ma=E1=B9=87i?=
Message-ID: <CAFtTCfeHRU4f+rEE1NLMXxxUemVPrRB1p9iLLvTfy1-ETLcmuA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Colleagues,

I would be grateful if someone could help me locating commentaries on
Ga?ge?a?s Tattvacint?ma?i. I am interested in the anum?nakha??a (precisely
the appendix on ??vara), and the commentaries thereon by Rucidatta (ed. K.
Tarkavagisa, Calcutta: 1884-1891) and Raghun?tha ?iroma?i (ed.
Nyayapodhyaya, Varanasi, 1906-1908).

Jonathan Duquette

JSPS Postdoctoral Fellow
Graduate School of Letters
Kyoto University


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From ajit.gargeshwari at gmail.com  Fri Sep 12 16:06:59 2014
From: ajit.gargeshwari at gmail.com (Ajit Gargeshwari)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 14 21:36:59 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] INDOLOGY Digest, Vol 20, Issue 10
In-Reply-To: <mailman.44.1410537612.22575.indology_list.indology.info@list.indology.info>
Message-ID: <CALaEiehyD45ottjiC3LaKyZ_a1nF2x-DjSK4uAPHUD1LkXFTew@mail.gmail.com>

The books you have requested are available at http://www.dli.gov.in/ and
some parts at archives.org. Any difficulties I will send them to you

Regards
Ajit Gargeshwari
? ????? ??????? ?? ??????????? ?????? ????? ?? ? ?????
??? ?????? ?????????? ?????? ? ?????? ???????? ???????2.20??

On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 9:30 PM, <indology-request at list.indology.info>
wrote:

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From dr.rupalimokashi at gmail.com  Sun Sep 14 15:40:13 2014
From: dr.rupalimokashi at gmail.com (Dr. Rupali Mokashi)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 14 21:10:13 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] TEXT AND TRANSLATION OF AGNI PURANA
Message-ID: <CAK2tbYz1sSu6-d3GDWGe24m3-TcnUhSsmmG8Mhx0HmvY58ycLw@mail.gmail.com>

I need the text and English/Hindi translation of Agni Purana
regards
Rupali Mokashi
http://rupalimokashi.wordpress.com/


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From ajit.gargeshwari at gmail.com  Sun Sep 14 16:16:33 2014
From: ajit.gargeshwari at gmail.com (Ajit Gargeshwari)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 14 21:46:33 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] TEXT AND TRANSLATION OF AGNI PURANA
Message-ID: <CALaEieiN4vWc4qRg3uzWadhbEe005kC8POj9Zih1cYs7myySDA@mail.gmail.com>

You may want to check this site

http://www.indianscriptures.com/scriptures/puranas-18-puranas-mahapurana/agni

Please see http:/www.dli.gov.in/ and archive.org. I am sure you will find
Agni Purana with text English and Hindi translations.
Why don't you search DLI and archive sites are not searched before asking
for books

Regards
Ajit Gargeshwari
? ????? ??????? ?? ??????????? ?????? ????? ?? ? ?????
??? ?????? ?????????? ?????? ? ?????? ???????? ???????2.20??


Today's Topics:
>
>    1. TEXT AND TRANSLATION OF AGNI PURANA (Dr. Rupali Mokashi)
>
>
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> Cc:
> Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 21:10:13 +0530
> Subject: [INDOLOGY] TEXT AND TRANSLATION OF AGNI PURANA
> I need the text and English/Hindi translation of Agni Purana
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From McComas.Taylor at anu.edu.au  Sun Sep 14 23:52:20 2014
From: McComas.Taylor at anu.edu.au (McComas Taylor)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 14 23:52:20 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Macdonell's Vedic Reader
Message-ID: <1410738740245.37209@anu.edu.au>

Dear Colleagues,


I am pleased to report that Martin Gluckman of the Vedic Society (and an illustrious ANU student) has digitised and 'webified'

Macdonell's Vedic Reader:


http://vedicreader.vedicsociety.org.in/


I am sure Martin would like to hear back from satisfied users:


martin at vedicsociety.org


McComas





________________________________
McComas Taylor
Head, Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies, CHL, CAP
The Australian National University
Tel. + 61 2 6125 3179
Website: https://sites.google.com/site/mccomasanu/
Address: Baldessin Building 4.24, ANU, ACT 0200
________________________________
Test drive our new 'Joy of Sanskrit' electronic text book<http://press.anu.edu.au/titles/anu-etext/the-joy-of-sanskrit/>.



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From dipak.d2004 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 15 02:52:29 2014
From: dipak.d2004 at gmail.com (Dipak Bhattacharya)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 14 08:22:29 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Macdonell's Vedic Reader
In-Reply-To: <1410738740245.37209@anu.edu.au>
Message-ID: <CABEB9qJNd71+khmDjMdeP0W+Gm8s6nzi2NQq+-JuuBVHUNr04Q@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks!
DB

On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 5:22 AM, McComas Taylor <McComas.Taylor at anu.edu.au>
wrote:

>  Dear Colleagues,
>
>
>  I am pleased to report that Martin Gluckman of the Vedic Society (and an
> illustrious ANU student) has digitised and 'webified'
>
> Macdonell's Vedic Reader:
>
>
>  http://vedicreader.vedicsociety.org.in/
>
>
>  I am sure Martin would like to hear back from satisfied users:
>
>
>  martin at vedicsociety.org
>
>
>  McComas
>
>
>
>
>
>   ------------------------------
> McComas Taylor
> Head, Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies, CHL, CAP
> The Australian National University
> Tel. + 61 2 6125 3179
> Website: https://sites.google.com/site/mccomasanu/
> Address: Baldessin Building 4.24, ANU, ACT 0200
> ------------------------------
> Test drive our new 'Joy of Sanskrit' electronic text book
> <http://press.anu.edu.au/titles/anu-etext/the-joy-of-sanskrit/>.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
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From jm63 at soas.ac.uk  Mon Sep 15 09:50:04 2014
From: jm63 at soas.ac.uk (James Mallinson)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 14 10:50:04 +0100
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_=C5=9A=C4=81r=E1=B9=85gadharapaddhati?=
Message-ID: <482E37A8-7340-4000-ACC4-2789EAA76F54@soas.ac.uk>

Dear List,

Would anyone happen to have a scan of an edition of the ??r?gadharapaddhati (or even an etext)? My internet searches have drawn a blank.

All the best,

Jim




From jm63 at soas.ac.uk  Mon Sep 15 09:59:25 2014
From: jm63 at soas.ac.uk (Jim Mallinson)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 14 10:59:25 +0100
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_=C5=9A=C4=81r=E1=B9=85gadharapaddhati?=
Message-ID: <27CC4DC9-0DD5-4030-B893-4BF4334DD1FC@khecari.com>

Dear List,

Would anyone happen to have a scan of an edition of the ??r?gadharapaddhati (or even an etext)? My internet searches have drawn a blank.

All the best,

Jim




From elena.mucciarelli at indo.uni-tuebingen.de  Mon Sep 15 10:04:01 2014
From: elena.mucciarelli at indo.uni-tuebingen.de (Elena Mucciarelli)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 14 12:04:01 +0200
Subject: [INDOLOGY] expert in classical Kannada
Message-ID: <329A4A09-2BCF-4BF0-AE15-344185CBAA55@indo.uni-tuebingen.de>

Dear members of the list,

could anyone suggest me experts in classical Kannada in Karnataka?
I will be there in November-January and I plan to attend classes at the Central Institute for Indian Languages in Mysore, but if there are some scholars whom I can contact, I would be very glad to do it, and it would be a great help for me. I already attended for two years the intensive modern Kannada courses at W?rzburg University offered by Prof. B.A. Viveka Rai and Dr. Katrin Binder, but I got only an introduction to classical and old Kannada.
I am working on the process of legitimation in early medieval Karnataka, and I am mainly dealing with inscriptions, but I shall soon also consider the courtly texts.
Therefore these months represent for me a great opportunity.

Than you very much in advance,

Elena Mucciarelli

--------------------------------------------



Dr. des. Elena Mucciarelli
Research Fellow

Eberhard Karls Universit?t T?bingen
Asien-Orient-Institut (AOI)
Abteilung f?r Indologie und Vergleichende Religionswissenschaft
Gartenstr. 19 ? 72074 T?bingen
+39 346 9794321
+49 (0) 176 72132481
elena.mucciarelli at indo.uni-tuebingen.de










From mmdesh at umich.edu  Mon Sep 15 11:47:37 2014
From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 14 07:47:37 -0400
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Macdonell's Vedic Reader
In-Reply-To: <1410738740245.37209@anu.edu.au>
Message-ID: <CAB3-dzcz73=V1KkgKv4Y0F_59CQnec1s3L-XS8+pA-uSn6wT_Q@mail.gmail.com>

This webified version is very useful to students.  I have already copied
the link to all my students.

Madhav Deshpande

On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 7:52 PM, McComas Taylor <McComas.Taylor at anu.edu.au>
wrote:

>  Dear Colleagues,
>
>
>  I am pleased to report that Martin Gluckman of the Vedic Society (and an
> illustrious ANU student) has digitised and 'webified'
>
> Macdonell's Vedic Reader:
>
>
>  http://vedicreader.vedicsociety.org.in/
>
>
>  I am sure Martin would like to hear back from satisfied users:
>
>
>  martin at vedicsociety.org
>
>
>  McComas
>
>
>
>
>
>   ------------------------------
> McComas Taylor
> Head, Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies, CHL, CAP
> The Australian National University
> Tel. + 61 2 6125 3179
> Website: https://sites.google.com/site/mccomasanu/
> Address: Baldessin Building 4.24, ANU, ACT 0200
> ------------------------------
> Test drive our new 'Joy of Sanskrit' electronic text book
> <http://press.anu.edu.au/titles/anu-etext/the-joy-of-sanskrit/>.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
>



-- 
Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
The University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48104-1608, USA


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From wujastyk at gmail.com  Mon Sep 15 16:07:19 2014
From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 14 18:07:19 +0200
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Macdonell's Vedic Reader
In-Reply-To: <CAB3-dzcz73=V1KkgKv4Y0F_59CQnec1s3L-XS8+pA-uSn6wT_Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKdt-Cf6ieb8i92eDRr7Gi6op5SYWPQMyvwXbCA_Zf3_0-+SLA@mail.gmail.com>

Very handy.  Thanks!  I've added a link <http://indology.info/links/gen/>
to the indology website.
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From rajam at earthlink.net  Mon Sep 15 16:11:50 2014
From: rajam at earthlink.net (rajam)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 14 09:11:50 -0700
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Macdonell's Vedic Reader
In-Reply-To: <CAB3-dzcz73=V1KkgKv4Y0F_59CQnec1s3L-XS8+pA-uSn6wT_Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0A89A1F7-6BEA-4A97-90E5-BAE7DE6C5F28@earthlink.net>

Excellent! 

Well designed with pleasing and effective User Interface (UI).

Congratulations!

Thanks and regards,
Rajam



On Sep 15, 2014, at 4:47 AM, Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu> wrote:

> This webified version is very useful to students.  I have already copied the link to all my students.
> 
> Madhav Deshpande
> 
> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 7:52 PM, McComas Taylor <McComas.Taylor at anu.edu.au> wrote:
> Dear Colleagues,
> 
> 
> I am pleased to report that Martin Gluckman of the Vedic Society (and an illustrious ANU student) has digitised and 'webified'
> 
> Macdonell's Vedic Reader:
> 
> 
> http://vedicreader.vedicsociety.org.in/
> 
> 
> I am sure Martin would like to hear back from satisfied users:
> 
> 
> martin at vedicsociety.org
> 
> 
> McComas
> 
> 
> 
> 
> McComas Taylor
> Head, Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies, CHL, CAP
> The Australian National University
> Tel. + 61 2 6125 3179
> Website: https://sites.google.com/site/mccomasanu/
> Address: Baldessin Building 4.24, ANU, ACT 0200
> Test drive our new 'Joy of Sanskrit' electronic text book.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Madhav M. Deshpande
> Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
> Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
> 202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
> The University of Michigan
> Ann Arbor, MI 48104-1608, USA
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
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From wujastyk at gmail.com  Mon Sep 15 23:48:55 2014
From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 14 01:48:55 +0200
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Macdonell's Vedic Reader
In-Reply-To: <0A89A1F7-6BEA-4A97-90E5-BAE7DE6C5F28@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <CAKdt-Cd2rH5dVVAWN--By4DFvTVu12CW82JJgPNJ+cL4d-5pJw@mail.gmail.com>

Just for the record, there are also half a dozen scanned copies of
Macdonell's Vedic Reader in the DLI (1917 and 1956 eds), and at archive.org
(link <https://archive.org/details/vedicreaderforst00macd>).
?
?Dominik?


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From shrinsaha at gmail.com  Wed Sep 17 08:10:36 2014
From: shrinsaha at gmail.com (Niranjan Saha)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 14 13:40:36 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Difference Between Sharanagati and Prapatti
Message-ID: <CAHuz+Cr0G4YeE=w=FbCjZsty_X2MWttixDepW5B5Bjj0yme9=g@mail.gmail.com>

Hallo!

Could any body highlight me a few points of difference between sharanagati
and prapatti in the tradition of Srivaishnava.


Sincerely,

N.Saha


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From jm63 at soas.ac.uk  Wed Sep 17 08:46:01 2014
From: jm63 at soas.ac.uk (James Mallinson)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 14 09:46:01 +0100
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_=C5=9A=C4=81r=E1=B9=85gadharapaddhati?=
In-Reply-To: <47607C39-FA5E-4232-97B6-AEF5EE05E44C@soas.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <DC61545A-953C-4817-8E19-59F9971EEC28@soas.ac.uk>

Dear All,

Many thanks to Andrew Ollett, Andrey Klebanov and Rohana Seneviratne for sending me scans of Peterson?s edition of the ?P, and also to Dominik Wujastyk for pointing out that it is available on the DLI (with the name uncompounded, hence my missing it).

All the best,

Jim

On 15 Sep 2014, at 10:35, James Mallinson <jm63 at soas.ac.uk> wrote:

> Dear List,
> 
> Would anyone happen to have a scan of an edition of the ??r?gadharapaddhati (or even an etext)? My internet searches have drawn a blank.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Jim






From wujastyk at gmail.com  Wed Sep 17 20:05:06 2014
From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 14 22:05:06 +0200
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Emory University job advertisement: Hindu Traditions
Message-ID: <CAKdt-CfVxz_rSw16yQuXF19KcBbYc3JLxuh9U6=gusfj1gvSAQ@mail.gmail.com>

--------------- Forwarded message, from RISA-L --------------------
 Assistant Professor in Hindu Traditions

The Department of Religion at Emory University invites applications for an
assistant professor appointment in Hindu traditions, beginning in Fall
2015, with primary research in one or more regional languages and
traditions. Preference is for colonial and/or pre-colonial period of
specialization. The successful candidate must have capacity to guide
graduate research in Hindu traditions and teach undergraduate courses on
Hinduism. We seek a scholar who will complement existing strengths at Emory
University in South Asian religions and who has the agility to engage in
robust interdisciplinary conversations in the Department of Religion and
the Graduate Division of Religion. PhD is required by the time of
appointment, as well as excellent teaching potential in both the college
and the graduate school. Letters of application, curriculum vitae, writing
sample, and three letters of recommendation should be submitted
electronically by October 15, 2014, to Gary Laderman, Hindu Traditions
Search Committee Chair (hinduismsearch at emory.edu). Members of the committee
will conduct preliminary interviews at the American Academy of Religion
conference in San Diego. Emory University is an Equal
Opportunity/Affirmative Action/Disability/Veteran employer. Women,
minorities, persons with disabilities and veterans are encouraged to apply.
For additional information, please contact chair of search committee at:
hinduismsearch at emory.edu.


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From gruenen at sub.uni-goettingen.de  Fri Sep 19 10:47:30 2014
From: gruenen at sub.uni-goettingen.de (Gruenendahl, Reinhold)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 14 10:47:30 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] GRETIL update #447
Message-ID: <044C4CE033BD474EBE2ACACE8E4B1D94A663067A@UM-EXCDAG-A01.um.gwdg.de>


GRETIL is pleased to be able to report the following addition(s) to its collection:



Sarvamatasamgraha:
http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm#Sarvmts



__________________________________________________________________________

"GRETIL is intended as a cumulative register of the numerous download sites for electronic texts in Indian languages." (from the 2001 "mission statement")

GRETIL - Goettingen Register of Electronic Texts in Indian Languages:

http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm






From shrinsaha at gmail.com  Sun Sep 21 17:01:45 2014
From: shrinsaha at gmail.com (Niranjan Saha)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 14 22:31:45 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Available Works on Bhaskara's Brahmasutrabhashya
Message-ID: <CAHuz+CqXNByBzi+fXeunVn1P4McstqiOE8s80q0QaLjB_e2Jcg@mail.gmail.com>

Dear list members,

Namaskar!

I'd be greatful if any body could point out me the available works on
Bhaskara's Brahmasutrabhashya (I do have the original bhashya but need to
know the availability of other works made on this bhashya either in Hindi,
English or in any other Indian languages).

Sincerely,

Niranjan Saha


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From elisa.freschi at gmail.com  Sun Sep 21 17:43:35 2014
From: elisa.freschi at gmail.com (Elisa Freschi)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 14 19:43:35 +0200
Subject: [INDOLOGY]  Available Works on Bhaskara's Brahmasutrabhashya
In-Reply-To: <CAHuz+CqXNByBzi+fXeunVn1P4McstqiOE8s80q0QaLjB_e2Jcg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEYKMafhg7T6OR9wYJamhrSchvL=hxw4RwV4icbQ4X_YBqqkyw@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Niranjan,

are you talking about critical works on the Bhasya or further editions or
translations? If the latter, you need to have a look at Takahiro Kato's PhD
thesis (available on line), which contains a facsimile of van Buitenen's
unpublished edition of the first chapter of the Bhasya and, more
importantly, Kato's own, further improved edition of the same. See also
Kato's forthcoming article on jnanakarmasamuccaya in Bhaskara (to be
published soon on Indologica Taurinensia) and Kato 2010 (WZKS) on van
Buitenen's edition.

Best,

elisa

On Sunday, September 21, 2014, Niranjan Saha <shrinsaha at gmail.com
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','shrinsaha at gmail.com');>> wrote:

> Dear list members,
>
> Namaskar!
>
> I'd be greatful if any body could point out me the available works on
> Bhaskara's Brahmasutrabhashya (I do have the original bhashya but need to
> know the availability of other works made on this bhashya either in Hindi,
> English or in any other Indian languages).
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Niranjan Saha
>


-- 
Dr. Elisa Freschi

Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia
Austrian Academy of Sciences
Apostelgasse 23
1030 Vienna
Austria
Phone +43 1 51581 6433
Fax +43 1 51581 6410
http://elisafreschi.com
http://oeaw.academia.edu/elisafreschi


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From mmdesh at umich.edu  Sun Sep 21 19:52:04 2014
From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 14 15:52:04 -0400
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Available Works on Bhaskara's Brahmasutrabhashya
In-Reply-To: <CAEYKMafhg7T6OR9wYJamhrSchvL=hxw4RwV4icbQ4X_YBqqkyw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAB3-dzfvSx2pNzO9tBmq-c2YiqqBttGVmUDfxE2A2gCmrWf+TQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Dr. Freschi,

     Could you please provide the web reference for Takahiro Kato's PhD
thesis?  Thanks.

Madhav Deshpande

On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Elisa Freschi <elisa.freschi at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear Niranjan,
>
> are you talking about critical works on the Bhasya or further editions or
> translations? If the latter, you need to have a look at Takahiro Kato's PhD
> thesis (available on line), which contains a facsimile of van Buitenen's
> unpublished edition of the first chapter of the Bhasya and, more
> importantly, Kato's own, further improved edition of the same. See also
> Kato's forthcoming article on jnanakarmasamuccaya in Bhaskara (to be
> published soon on Indologica Taurinensia) and Kato 2010 (WZKS) on van
> Buitenen's edition.
>
> Best,
>
> elisa
>
> On Sunday, September 21, 2014, Niranjan Saha <shrinsaha at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear list members,
>>
>> Namaskar!
>>
>> I'd be greatful if any body could point out me the available works on
>> Bhaskara's Brahmasutrabhashya (I do have the original bhashya but need to
>> know the availability of other works made on this bhashya either in Hindi,
>> English or in any other Indian languages).
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Niranjan Saha
>>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Elisa Freschi
>
> Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia
> Austrian Academy of Sciences
> Apostelgasse 23
> 1030 Vienna
> Austria
> Phone +43 1 51581 6433
> Fax +43 1 51581 6410
> http://elisafreschi.com
> http://oeaw.academia.edu/elisafreschi
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
>



-- 
Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
The University of Michigan
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From shrinsaha at gmail.com  Sun Sep 21 21:44:28 2014
From: shrinsaha at gmail.com (Niranjan Saha)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 14 03:14:28 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Available Works on Bhaskara's Brahmasutrabhashya
In-Reply-To: <CAEYKMaej6iHyhCF=JU3x6DLUA00A5aa=JrZZw+KY+tSAteq8jQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHuz+CrqvmgZLLXvs9bca1+J=0y1y8t6B6J_t5t=dKf9su0MPA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Elisa,

Thank you so much for sending the link to the Takahiro Kato's PhD thesis,
which I've visited and downloaded. Actually, one of my teachers is working
on it and wanted some available literature on Bhaskara's Brahmasutrabhashya.

Sincerely,
Niranjan

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 1:22 AM, Elisa Freschi <elisa.freschi at gmail.com>
wrote:

> With pleasure:
>
>
> http://digital.bibliothek.uni-halle.de/hs/content/titleinfo/1448039
>
> elisa freschi
>
> On Sunday, September 21, 2014, Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu> wrote:
>
>> Hello Dr. Freschi,
>>
>>      Could you please provide the web reference for Takahiro Kato's PhD
>> thesis?  Thanks.
>>
>> Madhav Deshpande
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Elisa Freschi <elisa.freschi at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Niranjan,
>>>
>>> are you talking about critical works on the Bhasya or further editions
>>> or translations? If the latter, you need to have a look at Takahiro Kato's
>>> PhD thesis (available on line), which contains a facsimile of van
>>> Buitenen's unpublished edition of the first chapter of the Bhasya and, more
>>> importantly, Kato's own, further improved edition of the same. See also
>>> Kato's forthcoming article on jnanakarmasamuccaya in Bhaskara (to be
>>> published soon on Indologica Taurinensia) and Kato 2010 (WZKS) on van
>>> Buitenen's edition.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> elisa
>>>
>>> On Sunday, September 21, 2014, Niranjan Saha <shrinsaha at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear list members,
>>>>
>>>> Namaskar!
>>>>
>>>> I'd be greatful if any body could point out me the available works on
>>>> Bhaskara's Brahmasutrabhashya (I do have the original bhashya but need to
>>>> know the availability of other works made on this bhashya either in Hindi,
>>>> English or in any other Indian languages).
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> Niranjan Saha
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dr. Elisa Freschi
>>>
>>> Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia
>>> Austrian Academy of Sciences
>>> Apostelgasse 23
>>> 1030 Vienna
>>> Austria
>>> Phone +43 1 51581 6433
>>> Fax +43 1 51581 6410
>>> http://elisafreschi.com
>>> http://oeaw.academia.edu/elisafreschi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>>> http://listinfo.indology.info
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Madhav M. Deshpande
>> Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
>> Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
>> 202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
>> The University of Michigan
>> Ann Arbor, MI 48104-1608, USA
>>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Elisa Freschi
>
> Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia
> Austrian Academy of Sciences
> Apostelgasse 23
> 1030 Vienna
> Austria
> Phone +43 1 51581 6433
> Fax +43 1 51581 6410
> http://elisafreschi.com
> http://oeaw.academia.edu/elisafreschi
>
>
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From drdhaval2785 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 22 04:19:08 2014
From: drdhaval2785 at gmail.com (dhaval patel)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 14 09:49:08 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Available Works on Bhaskara's Brahmasutrabhashya
In-Reply-To: <CAHuz+CrqvmgZLLXvs9bca1+J=0y1y8t6B6J_t5t=dKf9su0MPA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADSGPzUs79ye0OmhYJOqKsUqSALLb=NphrnwUVZpNTB2nHtofg@mail.gmail.com>

Respected scholar,
Please find attached the list which is attached at the end of 'saMskRta
vAGmaya kA bRhad itihAsa - vedAnta khaNDa'.
Reference to these books may be of some use.
[image: Inline image 1]

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 3:14 AM, Niranjan Saha <shrinsaha at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Elisa,
>
> Thank you so much for sending the link to the Takahiro Kato's PhD thesis,
> which I've visited and downloaded. Actually, one of my teachers is working
> on it and wanted some available literature on Bhaskara's Brahmasutrabhashya.
>
> Sincerely,
> Niranjan
>
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 1:22 AM, Elisa Freschi <elisa.freschi at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> With pleasure:
>>
>>
>> http://digital.bibliothek.uni-halle.de/hs/content/titleinfo/1448039
>>
>> elisa freschi
>>
>> On Sunday, September 21, 2014, Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Dr. Freschi,
>>>
>>>      Could you please provide the web reference for Takahiro Kato's PhD
>>> thesis?  Thanks.
>>>
>>> Madhav Deshpande
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Elisa Freschi <elisa.freschi at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Niranjan,
>>>>
>>>> are you talking about critical works on the Bhasya or further editions
>>>> or translations? If the latter, you need to have a look at Takahiro Kato's
>>>> PhD thesis (available on line), which contains a facsimile of van
>>>> Buitenen's unpublished edition of the first chapter of the Bhasya and, more
>>>> importantly, Kato's own, further improved edition of the same. See also
>>>> Kato's forthcoming article on jnanakarmasamuccaya in Bhaskara (to be
>>>> published soon on Indologica Taurinensia) and Kato 2010 (WZKS) on van
>>>> Buitenen's edition.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> elisa
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, September 21, 2014, Niranjan Saha <shrinsaha at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear list members,
>>>>>
>>>>> Namaskar!
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd be greatful if any body could point out me the available works on
>>>>> Bhaskara's Brahmasutrabhashya (I do have the original bhashya but need to
>>>>> know the availability of other works made on this bhashya either in Hindi,
>>>>> English or in any other Indian languages).
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>
>>>>> Niranjan Saha
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dr. Elisa Freschi
>>>>
>>>> Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia
>>>> Austrian Academy of Sciences
>>>> Apostelgasse 23
>>>> 1030 Vienna
>>>> Austria
>>>> Phone +43 1 51581 6433
>>>> Fax +43 1 51581 6410
>>>> http://elisafreschi.com
>>>> http://oeaw.academia.edu/elisafreschi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>>>> http://listinfo.indology.info
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Madhav M. Deshpande
>>> Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
>>> Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
>>> 202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
>>> The University of Michigan
>>> Ann Arbor, MI 48104-1608, USA
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Elisa Freschi
>>
>> Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia
>> Austrian Academy of Sciences
>> Apostelgasse 23
>> 1030 Vienna
>> Austria
>> Phone +43 1 51581 6433
>> Fax +43 1 51581 6410
>> http://elisafreschi.com
>> http://oeaw.academia.edu/elisafreschi
>>
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
>



-- 
Dr. Dhaval Patel, I.A.S
District Development Officer, Rajkot
www.sanskritworld.in


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From dchakra at hotmail.de  Mon Sep 22 05:49:46 2014
From: dchakra at hotmail.de (Dr. Debabrata Chakrabarti)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 14 11:19:46 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Conference on South Asian Studies! Tufts University!
Message-ID: <BAY179-W31FC17C9DF7DFF375C6D6BD9B30@phx.gbl>


Dear All,Please read the following:
RegardsDebabrata Chakrabarti
This week at Tufts University: A conference on South Asian StudiesFriday, September 26: Fletcher ASEAN Auditorium4:30pm: Is There Anything Special about South Asian Studies?
Amartya Sen, Thomas W. Lamont University Professor, and Professor of Economics and Philosophy, Harvard University5:30pm: A Sea Change in South Asian Historiography? Reflections on the Last Twenty-Five Years
Sugata Bose, Gardiner Professor of Oceanic History and Affairs, Harvard University; Member of the 16th Lok SabhaSaturday, September 27: Cabot 7th Floor9:00-10:15am- Panel I: Interventions in South Asian Studies*From the Bay of Bengal to the Bosphorus: Muslim networks in the age of Empire
Seema Alavi, Delhi University*Muslim Ethics and Literature in Colonial India: Writing under the Sign of ?Aklaq
Farina Mir, University of Michigan*The Suffering Scholar and the Healing Lord: A Materialist Look at a Sacred Center
Brian Hatcher, Tufts University10:30-11:45am- Panel II: Persisting Concerns in South Asian StudiesRethinking Religion Reform in Colonial India: Situating the Brahma Samaj in the History of Religion
Neilesh Bose, St. John?s University?A Wind is Blowing the World Over?: Decolonization and Third World Thought in Bengal
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Semanti Ghosh, Anandabazar PatrikaJupiter, Just a Step Away
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Sana Aiyar, Massachusetts Institute of Technology4:00-5:00pmPanel IV: Contemporary Challenges facing South AsiaAyesha Jalal, Director of the Center for South Asian and Indian Ocean Studies, Tufts University
Sugata Bose, Harvard University
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is like a musical instrument; what you hear depends upon how you play it.? ?
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From shrinsaha at gmail.com  Mon Sep 22 06:00:41 2014
From: shrinsaha at gmail.com (Niranjan Saha)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 14 11:30:41 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Available Works on Bhaskara's Brahmasutrabhashya
In-Reply-To: <CADSGPzUs79ye0OmhYJOqKsUqSALLb=NphrnwUVZpNTB2nHtofg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHuz+CqfHVYdb5L1T67oxX3KHKgEhtv=bwa_fVucthajPaJfBQ@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Dr Patel,

Thank you so much for sending me the bibliographical note on Bhaskara's
works. I'm having items 1 and 2 but pls let me know if you come across
other available works on Bhaskara's BSB.

Sincerely,
N.Saha

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:49 AM, dhaval patel <drdhaval2785 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Respected scholar,
> Please find attached the list which is attached at the end of 'saMskRta
> vAGmaya kA bRhad itihAsa - vedAnta khaNDa'.
> Reference to these books may be of some use.
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 3:14 AM, Niranjan Saha <shrinsaha at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Elisa,
>>
>> Thank you so much for sending the link to the Takahiro Kato's PhD
>> thesis, which I've visited and downloaded. Actually, one of my teachers is
>> working on it and wanted some available literature on Bhaskara's
>> Brahmasutrabhashya.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Niranjan
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 1:22 AM, Elisa Freschi <elisa.freschi at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> With pleasure:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://digital.bibliothek.uni-halle.de/hs/content/titleinfo/1448039
>>>
>>> elisa freschi
>>>
>>> On Sunday, September 21, 2014, Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Dr. Freschi,
>>>>
>>>>      Could you please provide the web reference for Takahiro Kato's
>>>> PhD thesis?  Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Madhav Deshpande
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Elisa Freschi <elisa.freschi at gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Niranjan,
>>>>>
>>>>> are you talking about critical works on the Bhasya or further editions
>>>>> or translations? If the latter, you need to have a look at Takahiro Kato's
>>>>> PhD thesis (available on line), which contains a facsimile of van
>>>>> Buitenen's unpublished edition of the first chapter of the Bhasya and, more
>>>>> importantly, Kato's own, further improved edition of the same. See also
>>>>> Kato's forthcoming article on jnanakarmasamuccaya in Bhaskara (to be
>>>>> published soon on Indologica Taurinensia) and Kato 2010 (WZKS) on van
>>>>> Buitenen's edition.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> elisa
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, September 21, 2014, Niranjan Saha <shrinsaha at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear list members,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Namaskar!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd be greatful if any body could point out me the available works on
>>>>>> Bhaskara's Brahmasutrabhashya (I do have the original bhashya but need to
>>>>>> know the availability of other works made on this bhashya either in Hindi,
>>>>>> English or in any other Indian languages).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Niranjan Saha
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Dr. Elisa Freschi
>>>>>
>>>>> Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia
>>>>> Austrian Academy of Sciences
>>>>> Apostelgasse 23
>>>>> 1030 Vienna
>>>>> Austria
>>>>> Phone +43 1 51581 6433
>>>>> Fax +43 1 51581 6410
>>>>> http://elisafreschi.com
>>>>> http://oeaw.academia.edu/elisafreschi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>>>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>>>>> http://listinfo.indology.info
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Madhav M. Deshpande
>>>> Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
>>>> Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
>>>> 202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
>>>> The University of Michigan
>>>> Ann Arbor, MI 48104-1608, USA
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dr. Elisa Freschi
>>>
>>> Institute for the Cultural and Intellectual History of Asia
>>> Austrian Academy of Sciences
>>> Apostelgasse 23
>>> 1030 Vienna
>>> Austria
>>> Phone +43 1 51581 6433
>>> Fax +43 1 51581 6410
>>> http://elisafreschi.com
>>> http://oeaw.academia.edu/elisafreschi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>> http://listinfo.indology.info
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Dhaval Patel, I.A.S
> District Development Officer, Rajkot
> www.sanskritworld.in
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From McComas.Taylor at anu.edu.au  Mon Sep 22 23:33:17 2014
From: McComas.Taylor at anu.edu.au (McComas Taylor)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 14 23:33:17 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Typing vedic accents in Windows and Mac systems
Message-ID: <1411428796556.79821@anu.edu.au>

Dear Colleeagues


What is the easiest way to type Vedic accents in transcriptions using Windows and Mac systems?


Thanks in advance


McComas


________________________________
McComas Taylor
Head, Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies, CHL, CAP
The Australian National University
Tel. + 61 2 6125 3179
Website: https://sites.google.com/site/mccomasanu/
Address: Baldessin Building 4.24, ANU, ACT 0200
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From shrinsaha at gmail.com  Tue Sep 23 03:35:13 2014
From: shrinsaha at gmail.com (Niranjan Saha)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 14 09:05:13 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] A.B. Khanna's work on Bhaskara's Brahmasutrabhashya
Message-ID: <CAHuz+CqmoOBw5vGWAq7ON5oM0BZRzVXNR=aNdt4OeDJxZowC=w@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Colleagues,

Might any body have a scanned/pdf copy of the Bhaskara: A Study with
Special Reference to His Brahmasutrabhashya by A.B.Khanna, Amar Granth
Publications, 1998.

Sincerely and with thanks in advance,
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From dipak.d2004 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 23 03:38:07 2014
From: dipak.d2004 at gmail.com (Dipak Bhattacharya)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 14 09:08:07 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Typing vedic accents in Windows and Mac systems
In-Reply-To: <1411428796556.79821@anu.edu.au>
Message-ID: <CABEB9qLcVR7kN45Ti5yn93g35fXjM5EiFZuUr2QCGiQ0H0y5+g@mail.gmail.com>

As far as Windows is concerned the necessary accent-marks are available
with the Symbol box of MSW 2010. One can create shortcuts too. For long
vowels one has to insert the standing accents. The numerical indication of
the kampasvara, if one desires to show that, has to be created.  But
normally that is not necessary. One can just indicate the circumflex.
Best
DB.

On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 5:03 AM, McComas Taylor <McComas.Taylor at anu.edu.au>
wrote:

>  Dear Colleeagues
>
>
>  What is the easiest way to type Vedic accents in transcriptions using
> Windows and Mac systems?
>
>
>  Thanks in advance
>
>
>  McComas
>
>
>   ------------------------------
> McComas Taylor
> Head, Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies, CHL, CAP
> The Australian National University
> Tel. + 61 2 6125 3179
> Website: https://sites.google.com/site/mccomasanu/
> Address: Baldessin Building 4.24, ANU, ACT 0200
> ------------------------------
> Test drive our new 'Joy of Sanskrit' electronic text book
> <http://press.anu.edu.au/titles/anu-etext/the-joy-of-sanskrit/>.
>
>
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From McComas.Taylor at anu.edu.au  Tue Sep 23 04:15:56 2014
From: McComas.Taylor at anu.edu.au (McComas Taylor)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 14 04:15:56 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Typing vedic accents in Windows and Mac systems
In-Reply-To: <CABEB9qLcVR7kN45Ti5yn93g35fXjM5EiFZuUr2QCGiQ0H0y5+g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1411445756593.89729@anu.edu.au>

Many thanks to colleague Dipak Bhattacharya for this instruction.


I have turned it into a short 'how-to' video which some folk might find useful:


https://www.screenr.com/AZnN


Yours


McComas





________________________________
McComas Taylor
Head, Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies, CHL, CAP
The Australian National University
Tel. + 61 2 6125 3179
Website: https://sites.google.com/site/mccomasanu/
Address: Baldessin Building 4.24, ANU, ACT 0200
________________________________
Test drive our new 'Joy of Sanskrit' electronic text book<http://press.anu.edu.au/titles/anu-etext/the-joy-of-sanskrit/>.

________________________________
From: Dipak Bhattacharya <dipak.d2004 at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 1:38 PM
To: McComas Taylor
Cc: indology at list.indology.info List
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Typing vedic accents in Windows and Mac systems

As far as Windows is concerned the necessary accent-marks are available with the Symbol box of MSW 2010. One can create shortcuts too. For long vowels one has to insert the standing accents. The numerical indication of the kampasvara, if one desires to show that, has to be created.  But normally that is not necessary. One can just indicate the circumflex.
Best
DB.

On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 5:03 AM, McComas Taylor <McComas.Taylor at anu.edu.au<mailto:McComas.Taylor at anu.edu.au>> wrote:

Dear Colleeagues


What is the easiest way to type Vedic accents in transcriptions using Windows and Mac systems?


Thanks in advance


McComas


________________________________
McComas Taylor
Head, Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies, CHL, CAP
The Australian National University
Tel. + 61 2 6125 3179
Website: https://sites.google.com/site/mccomasanu/
Address: Baldessin Building 4.24, ANU, ACT 0200
________________________________
Test drive our new 'Joy of Sanskrit' electronic text book<http://press.anu.edu.au/titles/anu-etext/the-joy-of-sanskrit/>.


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From sellmers at gmx.de  Tue Sep 23 06:40:14 2014
From: sellmers at gmx.de (Sven Sellmer)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 14 08:40:14 +0200
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Typing vedic accents in Windows and Mac systems
In-Reply-To: <1411428796556.79821@anu.edu.au>
Message-ID: <280453DF-77B3-4C03-B183-D48E4E349DEE@gmx.de>

Dear McComas,

on Mac systems one can use so-called flying (or, in Mac speech, combining) accents, but the quality of the output depends on the font used. Gentium Plus and Brill are quite good, but I seem to remember that there are problems with some more outlandish combinations. At least, e.g., r + combining ring below + combining macron + combining acute accent works well with both fonts, and even with Times, though less perfectly.

Best wishes,
Sven


Am 23.09.2014 um 01:33 schrieb McComas Taylor <mccomas.taylor at anu.edu.au>:

> Dear Colleeagues
> 
> What is the easiest way to type Vedic accents in transcriptions using Windows and Mac systems?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> McComas
> 
> McComas Taylor
> Head, Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies, CHL, CAP
> The Australian National University
> Tel. + 61 2 6125 3179
> Website: https://sites.google.com/site/mccomasanu/
> Address: Baldessin Building 4.24, ANU, ACT 0200
> Test drive our new 'Joy of Sanskrit' electronic text book.
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From dipak.d2004 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 23 10:53:13 2014
From: dipak.d2004 at gmail.com (Dipak Bhattacharya)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 14 16:23:13 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Typing vedic accents in Windows and Mac systems
In-Reply-To: <1411445756593.89729@anu.edu.au>
Message-ID: <CABEB9qJUi=K9RLw5003QTrso3FfGSYinb9htcR1ZCuVSRdW8wQ@mail.gmail.com>

23.9.14

Thanks! Somehow, I find MSW with improvised shortcuts quite handy. But I
thank you for the kind words and the programme!

By the way, I apprehend some problems. The nasal sign of a dotted
half-circle [[image: Inline image 2]] over vowels works in MSW Devnagari
but cannot be typed as a standing sign when typing in Roman. For this the
processor Baraha is useful. It is Unicode compliant and had to be purchased
with Credit Card. The rules might have changed now, I do not know.

Another way of doing that is to reverse the dot used with m for anusv?ra.
Thus if one is typing ? for anusv?ra, for the nasal vowel one may type <*l*
*?**l**a*> and then add in brackets (????).

Apology for unsolicited advice.

I am eager to know if the figure in Paint came in the mail.

Best

DB



On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:45 AM, McComas Taylor <McComas.Taylor at anu.edu.au>
wrote:

>  Many thanks to colleague Dipak Bhattacharya for this instruction.
>
>
>  I have turned it into a short 'how-to' video which some folk might find
> useful:
>
>
>  https://www.screenr.com/AZnN
>
>
>  Yours
>
>
>  McComas
>
>
>
>   ------------------------------
> McComas Taylor
> Head, Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies, CHL, CAP
> The Australian National University
> Tel. + 61 2 6125 3179
> Website: https://sites.google.com/site/mccomasanu/
> Address: Baldessin Building 4.24, ANU, ACT 0200
> ------------------------------
> Test drive our new 'Joy of Sanskrit' electronic text book
> <http://press.anu.edu.au/titles/anu-etext/the-joy-of-sanskrit/>.
>
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* Dipak Bhattacharya <dipak.d2004 at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2014 1:38 PM
> *To:* McComas Taylor
> *Cc:* indology at list.indology.info List
> *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] Typing vedic accents in Windows and Mac systems
>
>   As far as Windows is concerned the necessary accent-marks are available
> with the Symbol box of MSW 2010. One can create shortcuts too. For long
> vowels one has to insert the standing accents. The numerical indication of
> the kampasvara, if one desires to show that, has to be created.  But
> normally that is not necessary. One can just indicate the circumflex.
>  Best
>  DB.
>
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 5:03 AM, McComas Taylor <McComas.Taylor at anu.edu.au
> > wrote:
>
>>  Dear Colleeagues
>>
>>
>>  What is the easiest way to type Vedic accents in transcriptions using
>> Windows and Mac systems?
>>
>>
>>  Thanks in advance
>>
>>
>>  McComas
>>
>>
>>   ------------------------------
>> McComas Taylor
>> Head, Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies, CHL, CAP
>> The Australian National University
>> Tel. + 61 2 6125 3179
>> Website: https://sites.google.com/site/mccomasanu/
>> Address: Baldessin Building 4.24, ANU, ACT 0200
>> ------------------------------
>> Test drive our new 'Joy of Sanskrit' electronic text book
>> <http://press.anu.edu.au/titles/anu-etext/the-joy-of-sanskrit/>.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>> http://listinfo.indology.info
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>
>
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From wujastyk at gmail.com  Tue Sep 23 14:03:13 2014
From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 14 16:03:13 +0200
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Students sign petition to reinstate Sanskrit teaching at	Princeton University.
Message-ID: <CAKdt-CdP9wyoGGJBKtK1OngsK=vbvXXPn8+a5y4x6OUhYyDHUw@mail.gmail.com>

http://dailyprincetonian.com/news/2014/09/students-sign-petition-to-reinstate-sanskrit/


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From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 14 16:04:55 +0200
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Students sign petition to reinstate Sanskrit teaching at Princeton University.
In-Reply-To: <CAKdt-CdP9wyoGGJBKtK1OngsK=vbvXXPn8+a5y4x6OUhYyDHUw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKdt-CeptCpwzSyrxGcrS+DYO44PGHOnJVqvCZx0FsGiKyiaBg@mail.gmail.com>

Here's the petition Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/numquam.eadem/posts/10203125374191450
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From shrimaitreya at gmail.com  Wed Sep 24 05:26:26 2014
From: shrimaitreya at gmail.com ((Maitreya) Borayin Larios)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 14 07:26:26 +0200
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Contact of Prof. Dr. K Rajan in Puducherry
Message-ID: <CAPb4bMi5oMpAZModK5sCL=aF=SiQ1w9ZKP8PyutEVaFbQ5EGCg@mail.gmail.com>

Dear List members,

Would anyone have the contact information of Prof. K Rajan of the History
Department at the University of Puducherry? Among other things, he is the
director of the excavations at Kodumanal. A phone/mobile number would be
even more appreciated.

You can respond to me off-list.

Thank you all in advance.

Best,
Borayin

______________________________
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J?gerpfad 13
69118 Heidelberg
Germany
Office: (+49) 6221548939

Mobile: (+49) 17672329143

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From rekharanitj at gmail.com  Wed Sep 24 07:50:00 2014
From: rekharanitj at gmail.com (rekha rani)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 14 13:20:00 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Information about International Seminars
Message-ID: <CA+QA-K2wBWUytD0JW9Tkg6U_oKN7HaF8HpT9XsEGcZXYs41-Qg@mail.gmail.com>

Dear All,

            Pl. inform me if you known the information about the
international seminar releated to Hindi Literature, which to be held on
2015.

Thanking you,

With regards,

Dr. T. J. Rekha Rani
Head, Dept of Hindi,
The English and Foreign Languages University
Taranaka, Hyderabad,
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From chris.clark at inbox.com  Wed Sep 24 10:11:41 2014
From: chris.clark at inbox.com (Chris Clark)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 14 02:11:41 -0800
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Short phrase in a Sinhala script manuscript
Message-ID: <5B403F9B7D3.00000D31chris.clark@inbox.com>

Dear all,

I would greatly appreciate help with a short phrase in the colophon of a palm leaf manuscript written in Sinhala script. I would guess the phrase in question is in the Sinhala language. It appears to read diyava?anamatuli (the scan, which I?m afraid is not particularly clear, is attached).

(The remainder of the colophon consists of short phrases in Sanskrit and Sinhala, e.g. siddhir astu, ?May there be success!?)

Regards,
Chris Clark
PhD candidate
University of Sydney
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From jpo at uts.cc.utexas.edu  Wed Sep 24 11:59:24 2014
From: jpo at uts.cc.utexas.edu (Patrick Olivelle)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 14 06:59:24 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Short phrase in a Sinhala script manuscript
In-Reply-To: <5B403F9B7D3.00000D31chris.clark@inbox.com>
Message-ID: <4318A835-DB3C-4405-B6FB-2C6809FEB35D@uts.cc.utexas.edu>

Looks like it reads:

diyava?ana magula

The first probably means "increasing water" and the second, macula, often refers to a wedding, but probably has here a meaning like ma?gala, an auspicious ceremony. The reference may be to a ceremony conducted possibly at a river. 

Patrick



On Sep 24, 2014, at 5:11 AM, Chris Clark <chris.clark at inbox.com> wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> I would greatly appreciate help with a short phrase in the colophon of a palm leaf manuscript written in Sinhala script. I would guess the phrase in question is in the Sinhala language. It appears to read diyava?anamatuli (the scan, which I?m afraid is not particularly clear, is attached).
> 
> (The remainder of the colophon consists of short phrases in Sanskrit and Sinhala, e.g. siddhir astu, ?May there be success!?)
> 
> Regards,
> Chris Clark
> PhD candidate
> University of Sydney
> <ms.jpg>_______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info






From rolfheiner.koch at gmail.com  Wed Sep 24 15:12:09 2014
From: rolfheiner.koch at gmail.com (Rolf Heinrich Koch)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 14 17:12:09 +0200
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Short phrase in a Sinhala script manuscript
In-Reply-To: <4318A835-DB3C-4405-B6FB-2C6809FEB35D@uts.cc.utexas.edu>
Message-ID: <330AC559DF6B4388B0284C3BCE0B8965@HeinersPC>

I read diyava?ana magul (ceremony for  making more water) . diyava?ana is 
also the designation for the highest officer at the Kandytemple (Diyava?ana 
Nil?me). The meaning is probably:  May the ceremony of increasing water (e. 
g. perahera) be successful.

Best

Rolf Heinrich Koch


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick Olivelle" <jpo at uts.cc.utexas.edu>
To: "Chris Clark" <chris.clark at inbox.com>
Cc: <indology at list.indology.info>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Short phrase in a Sinhala script manuscript


> Looks like it reads:
>
> diyava?ana magula
>
> The first probably means "increasing water" and the second, macula, often 
> refers to a wedding, but probably has here a meaning like ma?gala, an 
> auspicious ceremony. The reference may be to a ceremony conducted possibly 
> at a river.
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
> On Sep 24, 2014, at 5:11 AM, Chris Clark <chris.clark at inbox.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I would greatly appreciate help with a short phrase in the colophon of a 
>> palm leaf manuscript written in Sinhala script. I would guess the phrase 
>> in question is in the Sinhala language. It appears to read 
>> diyava?anamatuli (the scan, which I?m afraid is not particularly clear, 
>> is attached).
>>
>> (The remainder of the colophon consists of short phrases in Sanskrit and 
>> Sinhala, e.g. siddhir astu, ?May there be success!?)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chris Clark
>> PhD candidate
>> University of Sydney
>> <ms.jpg>_______________________________________________
>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>> http://listinfo.indology.info
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info 






From oleg.bendz at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 24 15:55:41 2014
From: oleg.bendz at yahoo.com (Oleg Bendz)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 14 08:55:41 -0700
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Typing vedic accents in Windows and Mac systems
In-Reply-To: <CABEB9qJUi=K9RLw5003QTrso3FfGSYinb9htcR1ZCuVSRdW8wQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1411574141.12736.YahooMailNeo@web161402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

2014-09-24

Dear All:

For windows (vers XP, Vista, 7, 8, etc.), once the Sanskrit - devanagari codepage is enabled and loaded, the following extra characters and accents can be produced:rt-alt+ lowercase period:?
rt-alt+ uppercase period: ?(avagraha)

rt-alt + semicolon: underscore (vedic anudatta accent) ??

rt-alt + uppercase apostrophe: (vedic svarita accent)??

rt-alt + z:  accent grave ??

rt-alt + c:  accent aigue??

rt-alt + uppercase x: ?

rt-alt + uppercase f : ?

rt-alt + uppercase r: ?

rt-alt + uppercase equal sign: ?


Tx.

Oleg Bendz
P.S.  Does anyone need to know how to load the Sanskrit codepage in windows? 


On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:53 AM, Dipak Bhattacharya <dipak.d2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
  


23.9.14 
Thanks! Somehow, I find MSW with improvised
shortcuts quite handy. But I thank you for the kind words and the programme!  
By the way, I apprehend some problems.
The nasal sign of a dotted half-circle []
over vowels works in MSW Devnagari but cannot be typed as a standing sign when
typing in Roman. For this the processor Baraha is useful. It is Unicode
compliant and had to be purchased with Credit Card. The rules might have
changed now, I do not know.  
Another way of doing that is to
reverse the dot used with m for anusv?ra. Thus if one is typing ? for anusv?ra,
for the nasal vowel one may type <l?la> and then add in brackets (????).  
Apology for unsolicited advice.
I am eager to know if the figure in Paint came in the mail. 
 
Best 
DB 
  


On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:45 AM, McComas Taylor <McComas.Taylor at anu.edu.au> wrote:

Many thanks to colleague Dipak Bhattacharya for this instruction. 
>
> 
>I have turned it into a short 'how-to' video which some folk might find useful: 
>
> 
>https://www.screenr.com/AZnN 
>
> 
>Yours
> 
>McComas       
>
>    
>
> 
>
McComas Taylor
>Head, Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies, CHL, CAP
>The Australian National University
>Tel. + 61 2 6125 3179
>Website: https://sites.google.com/site/mccomasanu/
>Address: Baldessin Building 4.24, ANU, ACT 0200
>
Test drive our new 'Joy of Sanskrit' electronic text book.
>
>  
> 
>From: Dipak Bhattacharya <dipak.d2004 at gmail.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 1:38 PM
>To: McComas Taylor
>Cc: indology at list.indology.info List
>Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Typing vedic accents in Windows and Mac systems 
>
>As far as Windows is concerned the necessary accent-marks are available with the Symbol box of MSW 2010. One can create shortcuts too. For long vowels one has to insert the standing accents. The numerical indication of the kampasvara, if one desires to show that, has to be created.  But normally that is not necessary. One can just indicate the circumflex. 
>
Best
>
DB. 
> 
>
>
>On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 5:03 AM, McComas Taylor <McComas.Taylor at anu.edu.au> wrote:
>
>Dear Colleeagues 
>>
>> 
>>What is the easiest way to type Vedic accents in transcriptions using Windows and Mac systems? 
>>
>> 
>>Thanks in advance 
>>
>> 
>>McComas
>> 
>>
>> 
>> McComas Taylor
>>Head, Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies, CHL, CAP
>>The Australian National University
>>Tel. + 61 2 6125 3179
>>Website: https://sites.google.com/site/mccomasanu/
>>Address: Baldessin Building 4.24, ANU, ACT 0200
>>
Test drive our new 'Joy of Sanskrit' electronic text book.
>>
>>   
>>_______________________________________________
>>INDOLOGY mailing list
>>INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>>http://listinfo.indology.info/
>>  
>    
>_______________________________________________
>INDOLOGY mailing list
>INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>http://listinfo.indology.info/
>

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From mmdesh at umich.edu  Wed Sep 24 16:33:07 2014
From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 14 12:33:07 -0400
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Typing vedic accents in Windows and Mac systems
In-Reply-To: <1411574141.12736.YahooMailNeo@web161402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAB3-dzfSW-RvewRbGycuJuRCx=RnZnYziaafXL45sUnnXtga_g@mail.gmail.com>

Any suggestions on how to do this on a Mac?

Madhav Deshpande

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Oleg Bendz <oleg.bendz at yahoo.com> wrote:

> 2014-09-24
>
> Dear All:
>
> For windows (vers XP, Vista, 7, 8, etc.), once the Sanskrit - devanagari
> codepage is enabled and loaded, the following extra characters and accents
> can be produced:
> rt-alt + lowercase period:* ? *
> rt-alt + uppercase period: *?*(avagraha)
>
> rt-alt + semicolon: underscore (vedic anudatta accent) ??
>
> rt-alt + uppercase apostrophe: (vedic svarita accent) ??
>
> rt-alt + z: accent grave ??
>
> rt-alt + c: accent aigue ??
>
> rt-alt + uppercase x: ?
>
> rt-alt + uppercase f : ?
>
> rt-alt + uppercase r: ?
>
> rt-alt + uppercase equal sign: ?
>
>
> Tx.
>
> Oleg Bendz
> P.S.  Does anyone need to know how to load the Sanskrit codepage in
> windows?
>
>
>   On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:53 AM, Dipak Bhattacharya <
> dipak.d2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>  23.9.14
> Thanks! Somehow, I find MSW with improvised shortcuts quite handy. But I
> thank you for the kind words and the programme!
> By the way, I apprehend some problems. The nasal sign of a dotted
> half-circle [[image: Inline image 2]] over vowels works in MSW Devnagari
> but cannot be typed as a standing sign when typing in Roman. For this the
> processor Baraha is useful. It is Unicode compliant and had to be purchased
> with Credit Card. The rules might have changed now, I do not know.
> Another way of doing that is to reverse the dot used with m for anusv?ra.
> Thus if one is typing ? for anusv?ra, for the nasal vowel one may type <
> *l**?**l**a*> and then add in brackets (????).
> Apology for unsolicited advice.
> I am eager to know if the figure in Paint came in the mail.
> Best
> DB
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:45 AM, McComas Taylor <McComas.Taylor at anu.edu.au
> > wrote:
>
>  Many thanks to colleague Dipak Bhattacharya for this instruction.
>
>  I have turned it into a short 'how-to' video which some folk might find
> useful:
>
>  https://www.screenr.com/AZnN
>
>  Yours
>
>  McComas
>
>
>   McComas Taylor
> Head, Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies, CHL, CAP
> The Australian National University
> Tel. + 61 2 6125 3179
> Website: https://sites.google.com/site/mccomasanu/
> Address: Baldessin Building 4.24, ANU, ACT 0200
>  Test drive our new 'Joy of Sanskrit' electronic text book
> <http://press.anu.edu.au/titles/anu-etext/the-joy-of-sanskrit/>.
>
>   *From:* Dipak Bhattacharya <dipak.d2004 at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2014 1:38 PM
> *To:* McComas Taylor
> *Cc:* indology at list.indology.info List
> *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] Typing vedic accents in Windows and Mac systems
>
>   As far as Windows is concerned the necessary accent-marks are available
> with the Symbol box of MSW 2010. One can create shortcuts too. For long
> vowels one has to insert the standing accents. The numerical indication of
> the kampasvara, if one desires to show that, has to be created.  But
> normally that is not necessary. One can just indicate the circumflex.
>  Best
>  DB.
>
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 5:03 AM, McComas Taylor <McComas.Taylor at anu.edu.au
> > wrote:
>
>  Dear Colleeagues
>
>  What is the easiest way to type Vedic accents in transcriptions using
> Windows and Mac systems?
>
>  Thanks in advance
>
>  McComas
>
>   McComas Taylor
> Head, Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies, CHL, CAP
> The Australian National University
> Tel. + 61 2 6125 3179
> Website: https://sites.google.com/site/mccomasanu/
> Address: Baldessin Building 4.24, ANU, ACT 0200
>  Test drive our new 'Joy of Sanskrit' electronic text book
> <http://press.anu.edu.au/titles/anu-etext/the-joy-of-sanskrit/>.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info/
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info/
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info/
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
>



-- 
Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
The University of Michigan
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From sellmers at gmx.de  Wed Sep 24 17:48:43 2014
From: sellmers at gmx.de (Sven Sellmer)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 14 19:48:43 +0200
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Typing vedic accents in Windows and Mac systems
In-Reply-To: <CAB3-dzfSW-RvewRbGycuJuRCx=RnZnYziaafXL45sUnnXtga_g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C1985F5-D400-4624-B8F6-7556E5F50CD2@gmx.de>

A very useful program to build your own keyboard layouts is Ukelele: http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/14495/ukelele
Best wishes,
Sven


Am 24.09.2014 um 18:33 schrieb Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at UMICH.EDU>:

> Any suggestions on how to do this on a Mac?
> 
> Madhav Deshpande
> 
> On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Oleg Bendz <oleg.bendz at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 2014-09-24
> 
> Dear All:
> 
> For windows (vers XP, Vista, 7, 8, etc.), once the Sanskrit - devanagari codepage is enabled and loaded, the following extra characters and accents can be produced:
> rt-alt + lowercase period: ?
> rt-alt + uppercase period: ?(avagraha)
> 
> rt-alt + semicolon: underscore (vedic anudatta accent) ??
> 
> rt-alt + uppercase apostrophe: (vedic svarita accent) ??
> 
> rt-alt + z: accent grave ??
> 
> rt-alt + c: accent aigue ??
> 
> rt-alt + uppercase x: ?
> 
> rt-alt + uppercase f : ?
> 
> rt-alt + uppercase r: ?
> 
> rt-alt + uppercase equal sign: ?
> 
> 
> Tx.
> 
> Oleg Bendz
> P.S.  Does anyone need to know how to load the Sanskrit codepage in windows?
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:53 AM, Dipak Bhattacharya <dipak.d2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 23.9.14
> Thanks! Somehow, I find MSW with improvised shortcuts quite handy. But I thank you for the kind words and the programme!
> By the way, I apprehend some problems. The nasal sign of a dotted half-circle [] over vowels works in MSW Devnagari but cannot be typed as a standing sign when typing in Roman. For this the processor Baraha is useful. It is Unicode compliant and had to be purchased with Credit Card. The rules might have changed now, I do not know.
> Another way of doing that is to reverse the dot used with m for anusv?ra. Thus if one is typing ? for anusv?ra, for the nasal vowel one may type <l?la> and then add in brackets (????).
> Apology for unsolicited advice.
> I am eager to know if the figure in Paint came in the mail. 
> Best
> DB
>  
> 
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:45 AM, McComas Taylor <McComas.Taylor at anu.edu.au> wrote:
> Many thanks to colleague Dipak Bhattacharya for this instruction.
> 
> I have turned it into a short 'how-to' video which some folk might find useful:
> 
> https://www.screenr.com/AZnN
> 
> Yours
> 
> McComas
>  
> 
> 
> McComas Taylor
> Head, Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies, CHL, CAP
> The Australian National University
> Tel. + 61 2 6125 3179
> Website: https://sites.google.com/site/mccomasanu/
> Address: Baldessin Building 4.24, ANU, ACT 0200
> Test drive our new 'Joy of Sanskrit' electronic text book.
> 
> From: Dipak Bhattacharya <dipak.d2004 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 1:38 PM
> To: McComas Taylor
> Cc: indology at list.indology.info List
> Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Typing vedic accents in Windows and Mac systems
>  
> As far as Windows is concerned the necessary accent-marks are available with the Symbol box of MSW 2010. One can create shortcuts too. For long vowels one has to insert the standing accents. The numerical indication of the kampasvara, if one desires to show that, has to be created.  But normally that is not necessary. One can just indicate the circumflex. 
> Best
> DB. 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 5:03 AM, McComas Taylor <McComas.Taylor at anu.edu.au> wrote:
> Dear Colleeagues
> 
> What is the easiest way to type Vedic accents in transcriptions using Windows and Mac systems?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> McComas
> 
> McComas Taylor
> Head, Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies, CHL, CAP
> The Australian National University
> Tel. + 61 2 6125 3179
> Website: https://sites.google.com/site/mccomasanu/
> Address: Baldessin Building 4.24, ANU, ACT 0200
> Test drive our new 'Joy of Sanskrit' electronic text book.
> 
> 
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From narenthiran.r at ifpindia.org  Thu Sep 25 04:33:44 2014
From: narenthiran.r at ifpindia.org (Narenthiran R)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 14 10:03:44 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Prof: K. Rajan contact number & email id
Message-ID: <54239B28.4050409@ifpindia.org>


Dear Sir,

By mistake i have deleted the  latest indology digest in that somebody 
has asked for Prof. Prof. K. Rajan email id and mobile number.

"rajanarchy at gmail.com" <rajanarchy at gmail.com>

phone: 9500219125

Thanks

-- 

Narenthiran. R
Librarian
French Institute of Pondicherry
11, Saint Louis Street
P.B.33, Pondicherry 605001
Ph: 0091 - 413 - 2231661
Mobile : 9442934327







From james.hartzell at gmail.com  Thu Sep 25 08:00:11 2014
From: james.hartzell at gmail.com (James Hartzell)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 14 10:00:11 +0200
Subject: [INDOLOGY] text memorization
Message-ID: <CAKA8X43uz5VvmhdD495tTi6hiWU7p+E3p5acUa2ELAueBt=nSA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear colleagues

Might someone have handy some references on the practice of memorization in
the Sanskrit (and Tibetan) traditions?  I know memorizing texts is a basic
part of, for instance, traditional medical education, jyotishastra, etc.
What I am looking for are good published studies describing these practices
(pdf's would be a bonus).

Cheers,

James Hartzell, PhD
Center for Mind/Brain Sciences (CIMeC)
The University of Trento, Italy


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From mkapstei at uchicago.edu  Thu Sep 25 08:01:25 2014
From: mkapstei at uchicago.edu (Matthew Kapstein)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 14 08:01:25 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] text memorization
In-Reply-To: <CAKA8X43uz5VvmhdD495tTi6hiWU7p+E3p5acUa2ELAueBt=nSA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <82C3E42590D939418C74DD76B97DDED037491462@xm-mbx-04-prod.ad.uchicago.edu>

Georges Dreyfus, The Sound of Two Hands Clapping (U Cal Press)
would be a good place to start.

Matthew Kapstein
Directeur d'?tudes,
Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes

Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies,
The University of Chicago
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From kellner at asia-europe.uni-heidelberg.de  Thu Sep 25 09:33:25 2014
From: kellner at asia-europe.uni-heidelberg.de (Birgit Kellner)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 14 11:33:25 +0200
Subject: [INDOLOGY] text memorization
In-Reply-To: <CAKA8X43uz5VvmhdD495tTi6hiWU7p+E3p5acUa2ELAueBt=nSA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5423E165.9080109@asia-europe.uni-heidelberg.de>

An interesting first-hand report is given in:

@Article{Gerow_Edwin_2002_5701,
   Title                    = {Primary Education in Sanskrit: Methods 
and Goals},
   Author                   = {Gerow, Edwin},
   Journal                  = {Journal of the American Oriental Society},
   Year                     = {2002},
   Pages                    = {661-690},
   Volume                   = {122 (4)},
}

With best regards,

Birgit Kellner

Am 25.09.2014 um 10:00 schrieb James Hartzell:
> Dear colleagues
>
> Might someone have handy some references on the practice of memorization
> in the Sanskrit (and Tibetan) traditions?  I know memorizing texts is a
> basic part of, for instance, traditional medical education,
> jyotishastra, etc.  What I am looking for are good published studies
> describing these practices (pdf's would be a bonus).
>
> Cheers,
>
> James Hartzell, PhD
> Center for Mind/Brain Sciences (CIMeC)
> The University of Trento, Italy


-- 
----------
Prof. Dr. Birgit Kellner
Chair of Buddhist Studies
Cluster of Excellence "Asia and Europe in a Global Context - The 
Dynamics of Transculturality"
University of Heidelberg
Karl Jaspers Centre
Vo?stra?e 2, Building 4400
D-69115 Heidelberg
Phone: +49(0)6221 - 54 4301 (Office Ina Chebbi: 4363)
Fax: +49(0)6221 - 54 4012





From chris_gibbons at me.com  Thu Sep 25 11:13:51 2014
From: chris_gibbons at me.com (CHRISTOPHER GIBBONS)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 14 21:13:51 +1000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] text memorization
In-Reply-To: <5423E165.9080109@asia-europe.uni-heidelberg.de>
Message-ID: <CB72F3DB-A52D-433B-B83D-ED822326C6D6@me.com>

Dear James, the following comes to mind:

N. Sjoman (1986) 'The Memory Eye: An examination of memory in traditional knowledge systems? JIP 14 (2).: 195-213.

Best, Chris

On 25 Sep 2014, at 7:33 pm, Birgit Kellner <kellner at asia-europe.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote:

> An interesting first-hand report is given in:
> 
> @Article{Gerow_Edwin_2002_5701,
>  Title                    = {Primary Education in Sanskrit: Methods and Goals},
>  Author                   = {Gerow, Edwin},
>  Journal                  = {Journal of the American Oriental Society},
>  Year                     = {2002},
>  Pages                    = {661-690},
>  Volume                   = {122 (4)},
> }
> 
> With best regards,
> 
> Birgit Kellner
> 
> Am 25.09.2014 um 10:00 schrieb James Hartzell:
>> Dear colleagues
>> 
>> Might someone have handy some references on the practice of memorization
>> in the Sanskrit (and Tibetan) traditions?  I know memorizing texts is a
>> basic part of, for instance, traditional medical education,
>> jyotishastra, etc.  What I am looking for are good published studies
>> describing these practices (pdf's would be a bonus).
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> James Hartzell, PhD
>> Center for Mind/Brain Sciences (CIMeC)
>> The University of Trento, Italy
> 
> 
> -- 
> ----------
> Prof. Dr. Birgit Kellner
> Chair of Buddhist Studies
> Cluster of Excellence "Asia and Europe in a Global Context - The Dynamics of Transculturality"
> University of Heidelberg
> Karl Jaspers Centre
> Vo?stra?e 2, Building 4400
> D-69115 Heidelberg
> Phone: +49(0)6221 - 54 4301 (Office Ina Chebbi: 4363)
> Fax: +49(0)6221 - 54 4012
> 
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From charlesdisimone at gmail.com  Thu Sep 25 11:50:32 2014
From: charlesdisimone at gmail.com (Charles DiSimone)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 14 13:50:32 +0200
Subject: [INDOLOGY] text memorization
In-Reply-To: <CAKA8X43uz5VvmhdD495tTi6hiWU7p+E3p5acUa2ELAueBt=nSA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAP2_iYc+f=yJEp5VuRx9+HW26gous+-tMcPRKfR54B0RJ_ebCQ@mail.gmail.com>

*In the Mirror of Memory: Reflections on Mindfulness and Remembrance in
Indian and Tibetan Buddhism, *edited by Janet Gyatso, might be worth taking
a look at.

Best,
Charlie DiSimone

-- 
Charles DiSimone
Promotionsprogramm Buddhismus-Studien
Institut f?r Indologie und Tibetologie
Ludwig-Maximilians-Universit?t, M?nchen


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From mmdesh at umich.edu  Thu Sep 25 12:39:10 2014
From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 14 08:39:10 -0400
Subject: [INDOLOGY] text memorization
In-Reply-To: <CAP2_iYc+f=yJEp5VuRx9+HW26gous+-tMcPRKfR54B0RJ_ebCQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAB3-dzfQsiXQkyO0xkO4G=rdGXXRRmDamjU6d9+7dJA-b-+tXQ@mail.gmail.com>

For Vedic recitational practices in general, and more specifically those of
the ?aunak?ya Atharvaveda, you can read the introduction to my book
"Recitational Permutations of the ?aunak?ya Atharvaveda", Harvard Oriental
Series, Vol 61.  I have also attached an article of mine that discusses
issues of orality and writing in the transmission of P??ini's grammar.
That may be useful as well.

Madhav Deshpande

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Charles DiSimone <charlesdisimone at gmail.com
> wrote:

> *In the Mirror of Memory: Reflections on Mindfulness and Remembrance in
> Indian and Tibetan Buddhism, *edited by Janet Gyatso, might be worth
> taking a look at.
>
> Best,
> Charlie DiSimone
>
> --
> Charles DiSimone
> Promotionsprogramm Buddhismus-Studien
> Institut f?r Indologie und Tibetologie
> Ludwig-Maximilians-Universit?t, M?nchen
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
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> http://listinfo.indology.info
>



-- 
Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
The University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48104-1608, USA


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From gthomgt at gmail.com  Thu Sep 25 20:27:58 2014
From: gthomgt at gmail.com (George Thompson)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 14 16:27:58 -0400
Subject: [INDOLOGY] text memorization
In-Reply-To: <CAB3-dzfQsiXQkyO0xkO4G=rdGXXRRmDamjU6d9+7dJA-b-+tXQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAP1Y1zsMzsVC44a6eGYBXnGQzwRtDTJdKWrJ_X4NzaGiR3azhg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello list,

Of course,there is also Frits Staal's *Nambudiri Veda Recitation*
[published in 1961, Mouton @ Co. the Netherlands].  An important early work.

List member Finnian Moore Gerety has also done work on this Vedic tradition
in Kerala.

George Thompson

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu> wrote:

> For Vedic recitational practices in general, and more specifically those
> of the ?aunak?ya Atharvaveda, you can read the introduction to my book
> "Recitational Permutations of the ?aunak?ya Atharvaveda", Harvard Oriental
> Series, Vol 61.  I have also attached an article of mine that discusses
> issues of orality and writing in the transmission of P??ini's grammar.
> That may be useful as well.
>
> Madhav Deshpande
>
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Charles DiSimone <
> charlesdisimone at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> *In the Mirror of Memory: Reflections on Mindfulness and Remembrance in
>> Indian and Tibetan Buddhism, *edited by Janet Gyatso, might be worth
>> taking a look at.
>>
>> Best,
>> Charlie DiSimone
>>
>> --
>> Charles DiSimone
>> Promotionsprogramm Buddhismus-Studien
>> Institut f?r Indologie und Tibetologie
>> Ludwig-Maximilians-Universit?t, M?nchen
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>> http://listinfo.indology.info
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Madhav M. Deshpande
> Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
> Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
> 202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
> The University of Michigan
> Ann Arbor, MI 48104-1608, USA
>
> _______________________________________________
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From dr.rupalimokashi at gmail.com  Fri Sep 26 01:51:54 2014
From: dr.rupalimokashi at gmail.com (Dr. Rupali Mokashi)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 14 07:21:54 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Indian Historical Quarterly
Message-ID: <CAK2tbYy0Yz91fpSRV1EpMwWpg=KAigCJLove78EYJ4ZQ++Amxg@mail.gmail.com>

I need pdf of Vol. 35 of Indian Historical Quarterly
regards
Rupali Mokashi
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>    3. Re: Prof: K. Rajan contact number & email id (Narenthiran R)
>    4. text memorization (James Hartzell)
>    5. Re: text memorization (Matthew Kapstein)
>    6. Re: text memorization (Birgit Kellner)
>    7. Re: text memorization (CHRISTOPHER GIBBONS)
>    8. Re: text memorization (Charles DiSimone)
>    9. Re: text memorization (Madhav Deshpande)
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 12:33:07 -0400
> From: Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu>
> To: Oleg Bendz <oleg.bendz at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "indology at list.indology.info List" <indology at list.indology.info>
> Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Typing vedic accents in Windows and Mac
>         systems
> Message-ID:
>         <CAB3-dzfSW-RvewRbGycuJuRCx=
> RnZnYziaafXL45sUnnXtga_g at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Any suggestions on how to do this on a Mac?
>
> Madhav Deshpande
>
> On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Oleg Bendz <oleg.bendz at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > 2014-09-24
> >
> > Dear All:
> >
> > For windows (vers XP, Vista, 7, 8, etc.), once the Sanskrit - devanagari
> > codepage is enabled and loaded, the following extra characters and
> accents
> > can be produced:
> > rt-alt + lowercase period:* ? *
> > rt-alt + uppercase period: *?*(avagraha)
> >
> > rt-alt + semicolon: underscore (vedic anudatta accent) ??
> >
> > rt-alt + uppercase apostrophe: (vedic svarita accent) ??
> >
> > rt-alt + z: accent grave ??
> >
> > rt-alt + c: accent aigue ??
> >
> > rt-alt + uppercase x: ?
> >
> > rt-alt + uppercase f : ?
> >
> > rt-alt + uppercase r: ?
> >
> > rt-alt + uppercase equal sign: ?
> >
> >
> > Tx.
> >
> > Oleg Bendz
> > P.S.  Does anyone need to know how to load the Sanskrit codepage in
> > windows?
> >
> >
> >   On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:53 AM, Dipak Bhattacharya <
> > dipak.d2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >  23.9.14
> > Thanks! Somehow, I find MSW with improvised shortcuts quite handy. But I
> > thank you for the kind words and the programme!
> > By the way, I apprehend some problems. The nasal sign of a dotted
> > half-circle [[image: Inline image 2]] over vowels works in MSW Devnagari
> > but cannot be typed as a standing sign when typing in Roman. For this the
> > processor Baraha is useful. It is Unicode compliant and had to be
> purchased
> > with Credit Card. The rules might have changed now, I do not know.
> > Another way of doing that is to reverse the dot used with m for anusv?ra.
> > Thus if one is typing ? for anusv?ra, for the nasal vowel one may type <
> > *l**?**l**a*> and then add in brackets (????).
> > Apology for unsolicited advice.
> > I am eager to know if the figure in Paint came in the mail.
> > Best
> > DB
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:45 AM, McComas Taylor <
> McComas.Taylor at anu.edu.au
> > > wrote:
> >
> >  Many thanks to colleague Dipak Bhattacharya for this instruction.
> >
> >  I have turned it into a short 'how-to' video which some folk might find
> > useful:
> >
> >  https://www.screenr.com/AZnN
> >
> >  Yours
> >
> >  McComas
> >
> >
> >   McComas Taylor
> > Head, Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies, CHL, CAP
> > The Australian National University
> > Tel. + 61 2 6125 3179
> > Website: https://sites.google.com/site/mccomasanu/
> > Address: Baldessin Building 4.24, ANU, ACT 0200
> >  Test drive our new 'Joy of Sanskrit' electronic text book
> > <http://press.anu.edu.au/titles/anu-etext/the-joy-of-sanskrit/>.
> >
> >   *From:* Dipak Bhattacharya <dipak.d2004 at gmail.com>
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2014 1:38 PM
> > *To:* McComas Taylor
> > *Cc:* indology at list.indology.info List
> > *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] Typing vedic accents in Windows and Mac systems
> >
> >   As far as Windows is concerned the necessary accent-marks are available
> > with the Symbol box of MSW 2010. One can create shortcuts too. For long
> > vowels one has to insert the standing accents. The numerical indication
> of
> > the kampasvara, if one desires to show that, has to be created.  But
> > normally that is not necessary. One can just indicate the circumflex.
> >  Best
> >  DB.
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 5:03 AM, McComas Taylor <
> McComas.Taylor at anu.edu.au
> > > wrote:
> >
> >  Dear Colleeagues
> >
> >  What is the easiest way to type Vedic accents in transcriptions using
> > Windows and Mac systems?
> >
> >  Thanks in advance
> >
> >  McComas
> >
> >   McComas Taylor
> > Head, Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies, CHL, CAP
> > The Australian National University
> > Tel. + 61 2 6125 3179
> > Website: https://sites.google.com/site/mccomasanu/
> > Address: Baldessin Building 4.24, ANU, ACT 0200
> >  Test drive our new 'Joy of Sanskrit' electronic text book
> > <http://press.anu.edu.au/titles/anu-etext/the-joy-of-sanskrit/>.
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > INDOLOGY mailing list
> > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> > http://listinfo.indology.info/
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://listinfo.indology.info/
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://listinfo.indology.info/
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
>
>
>
> --
> Madhav M. Deshpande
> Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
> Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
> 202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
> The University of Michigan
> Ann Arbor, MI 48104-1608, USA
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From james.hartzell at gmail.com  Fri Sep 26 09:41:39 2014
From: james.hartzell at gmail.com (James Hartzell)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 14 11:41:39 +0200
Subject: [INDOLOGY] text memorization
In-Reply-To: <CAP1Y1zsMzsVC44a6eGYBXnGQzwRtDTJdKWrJ_X4NzaGiR3azhg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKA8X423LK9cfPuWwCCqYOD8tfDPJcfJbSoJox0WeL2t2F5M0A@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks very much to Matthew Kapstein, Birgit Kellner, Dipak Bhattacharya,
Madhav Deshpande, Christopher Gibbons, Charlie DiSimone, Maitreya Borayin
Larios, Geoge Thompson and Ulla Remmer for the very useful links,
references, pdfs, and suggestions.

Cheers
James Hartzell, PhD
Center for Mind/Brain Sciences (CIMeC)
The University of Trento, Italy


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From gruenen at sub.uni-goettingen.de  Fri Sep 26 14:57:21 2014
From: gruenen at sub.uni-goettingen.de (Gruenendahl, Reinhold)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 14 14:57:21 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] GRETIL update #448
Message-ID: <044C4CE033BD474EBE2ACACE8E4B1D94A663AEB5@UM-excdag-a02.um.gwdg.de>


GRETIL is pleased to be able to report the following addition(s) to its collection:


Astasahasrika Prajnaparamita: revised:
http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm#DSBC_Su049


Dighanikaya: PTS/Dhammakaya edition, annotated and plain text:
http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm#Digh


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From drdhaval2785 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 27 13:54:11 2014
From: drdhaval2785 at gmail.com (dhaval patel)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 14 19:24:11 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Harakare Prayaya kosha
Message-ID: <CADSGPzWHJK69+Ma0uj8JQpdvjFqLHX+QgYng0Obgxn9LjguQpw@mail.gmail.com>

Respected scholars,
I wanted your help in understanding references given after uNAdi
explanations.
My guess was that it refers to uNAdi sUtra numbers.
But when I checked the following available uNAdi works, I didn't find the
numbers tallying.
1. uNAdisUtras with the vRtti of zvetavanavAsin (Uni of Madras, 1933)
2. uNAdisUtrANi nArAyaNabhaTTaviracitaprakriyAsarvasvAkhyavRttiyutAni (Uni
of Madras, reprinted by NavaraGga, New Delhi, 1992)
3. auNAdikapadArNavaH - perusUriviracitaH (Uni of Madras)
4. uNAdisUtras of the kAtantra school with vRtti of dUrgasiMha
5. uNAdikoSaH - zrI satyavrata zAstrI (cittorgarh)
6. dazapAdyuNAdivRttiH (The princess of Wales Sarasvati bhavana text series
no 81)


I would be grateful if the scholars can take me to the correct uNAdi work,
or explain something about these numbers. (The work of Harakare doesn't
seem to mention the edition he referred to).




-- 
Dr. Dhaval Patel, I.A.S
District Development Officer, Rajkot
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From drdhaval2785 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 27 14:09:16 2014
From: drdhaval2785 at gmail.com (dhaval patel)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 14 19:39:16 +0530
Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtJTkRPTE9HWV0Je+CkreCkvuCksOCkpOClgOCkr+CkteCkv+CkpuCljeCkteCkpOCljeCkquCksOCkv+Ckt+CkpOCljX0gSGFyYWthcmUgUHJheWF5YSBrb3NoYQ==?=
In-Reply-To: <CADSGPzWHJK69+Ma0uj8JQpdvjFqLHX+QgYng0Obgxn9LjguQpw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADSGPzW+7g2Fpe3-qrbu6G7Mgu=KnL9xqGvP_btmy3k2JS618w@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry for the ambiguity. I am reading Harakare's pratyaya koSa.
I am not able to decipher these numbers in bracket.

On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 7:24 PM, dhaval patel <drdhaval2785 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Respected scholars,
> I wanted your help in understanding references given after uNAdi
> explanations.
> My guess was that it refers to uNAdi sUtra numbers.
> But when I checked the following available uNAdi works, I didn't find the
> numbers tallying.
> 1. uNAdisUtras with the vRtti of zvetavanavAsin (Uni of Madras, 1933)
> 2. uNAdisUtrANi nArAyaNabhaTTaviracitaprakriyAsarvasvAkhyavRttiyutAni (Uni
> of Madras, reprinted by NavaraGga, New Delhi, 1992)
> 3. auNAdikapadArNavaH - perusUriviracitaH (Uni of Madras)
> 4. uNAdisUtras of the kAtantra school with vRtti of dUrgasiMha
> 5. uNAdikoSaH - zrI satyavrata zAstrI (cittorgarh)
> 6. dazapAdyuNAdivRttiH (The princess of Wales Sarasvati bhavana text
> series no 81)
>
>
> I would be grateful if the scholars can take me to the correct uNAdi work,
> or explain something about these numbers. (The work of Harakare doesn't
> seem to mention the edition he referred to).
>
>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Dhaval Patel, I.A.S
> District Development Officer, Rajkot
> www.sanskritworld.in
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From nmisra at gmail.com  Sun Sep 28 01:50:54 2014
From: nmisra at gmail.com (Nityanand Misra)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 14 18:50:54 -0700
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Harakare Prayaya kosha
In-Reply-To: <CADSGPzWHJK69+Ma0uj8JQpdvjFqLHX+QgYng0Obgxn9LjguQpw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <22a0ee19-a6be-4220-a153-ecb732413b66@googlegroups.com>



On Saturday, September 27, 2014 7:24:19 PM UTC+5:30, dhaval wrote:
>
> Respected scholars,
> I wanted your help in understanding references given after uNAdi 
> explanations.
> My guess was that it refers to uNAdi sUtra numbers.
> But when I checked the following available uNAdi works, I didn't find the 
> numbers tallying.
> 1. uNAdisUtras with the vRtti of zvetavanavAsin (Uni of Madras, 1933)
> 2. uNAdisUtrANi nArAyaNabhaTTaviracitaprakriyAsarvasvAkhyavRttiyutAni (Uni 
> of Madras, reprinted by NavaraGga, New Delhi, 1992)
> 3. auNAdikapadArNavaH - perusUriviracitaH (Uni of Madras)
> 4. uNAdisUtras of the kAtantra school with vRtti of dUrgasiMha 
> 5. uNAdikoSaH - zrI satyavrata zAstrI (cittorgarh)
> 6. dazapAdyuNAdivRttiH (The princess of Wales Sarasvati bhavana text 
> series no 81)
>
>
If I remember correctly, the last work in the list above 
(Da?ap?dyu??div?tti?) is edited by Mah?mahop?dhy?ya Yudhi??hira M?m??saka. 
This work gives two sets of numbers for each S?tra corresponding to the 
Da?ap?d? and Pa?cap?d? both. I have cross-checked the numbers with the 
Pa?cap?dyu??div?tti? of ?vetavanav?s? (1933 Univ of Madras) and they tally.

As shown in the footnote section of the attached image (highlighted in 
green), I usually cite both the Da?ap?d? and Pa?cap?d? S?tra numbers. The 
snapshot is page 290 of the upcoming second edition of 
Adhy?tmar?m?ya?e'p??in?yaprayog???? Vimar?a?.




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From sharonbendor at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 28 07:37:25 2014
From: sharonbendor at yahoo.com (Sharon Ben-Dor)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 14 00:37:25 -0700
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Harakare Prayaya kosha
In-Reply-To: <CADSGPzWHJK69+Ma0uj8JQpdvjFqLHX+QgYng0Obgxn9LjguQpw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1411889845.58594.YahooMailBasic@web125205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Hi, 

The numbers refer to the numbers in the Siddh?ntakaumud? - u??diprakara?a.


Sharon

--------------------------------------------
On Sat, 9/27/14, dhaval patel <drdhaval2785 at gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: [INDOLOGY] Harakare Prayaya kosha
 To: "bvparishat at googlegroups.com" <bvparishat at googlegroups.com>, "indology at list.indology.info" <indology at list.indology.info>
 Date: Saturday, September 27, 2014, 4:54 PM
 
 Respected scholars,
 I wanted your help in understanding references given
 after uNAdi explanations.
 My guess was that it refers to uNAdi sUtra numbers.
 But when I checked the following available uNAdi
 works, I didn't find the numbers tallying.
 1. uNAdisUtras with the vRtti of zvetavanavAsin
 (Uni of Madras, 1933)
 2. uNAdisUtrANi
 nArAyaNabhaTTaviracitaprakriyAsarvasvAkhyavRttiyutAni (Uni
 of Madras, reprinted by NavaraGga, New Delhi, 1992)
 3. auNAdikapadArNavaH - perusUriviracitaH (Uni of
 Madras)
 4. uNAdisUtras of the kAtantra school with vRtti
 of dUrgasiMha 
 5. uNAdikoSaH - zrI satyavrata zAstrI
 (cittorgarh)
 6. dazapAdyuNAdivRttiH (The princess of Wales
 Sarasvati bhavana text series no 81)
 
 
 I would be grateful if the scholars can take me to the
 correct uNAdi work, or explain something about these
 numbers. (The work of Harakare doesn't seem to mention
 the edition he referred to).
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Dr. Dhaval Patel, I.A.SDistrict Development Officer,
 Rajkotwww.sanskritworld.in
 
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From chiara.policardi at uniroma1.it  Sun Sep 28 21:15:48 2014
From: chiara.policardi at uniroma1.it (Chiara Policardi)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 14 23:15:48 +0200
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Source of "nAdevo devam arcayet"
Message-ID: <CAP+pD7BGoKd=YRqZKqk_wEJZ60WS+O+tbBJec_1j4WUnxSaGSA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear List members,

what is the source of the citation ?nAdevo devam arcayet??

It is quoted as ?vedic saying? (Coomaraswamy) and ?tantrik saying? (Eliade
and others), but I haven?t ever seen the precise reference.


Thanking you in advance,


Chiara Policardi

PhD student

La Sapienza University of Rome


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From drdhaval2785 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 29 04:34:47 2014
From: drdhaval2785 at gmail.com (dhaval patel)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 14 10:04:47 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Harakare Prayaya kosha
In-Reply-To: <1411889845.58594.YahooMailBasic@web125205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CADSGPzWW25iiHwEs+SRz51KmmcOSUygW=p9pzYvMeg5QbE+WGg@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you very much scholars. I got to know that the numbers refer to SK
with Balamanorama 1911 Trichinopoly edition. The issue is resolved


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From james.stewart at lankamail.com  Mon Sep 29 05:10:54 2014
From: james.stewart at lankamail.com (James Stewart)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 14 15:10:54 +1000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query about Sinhala apocalypse myth
Message-ID: <CAH46kmh-uc_qWXaePTgamwOzReV50Ar1BLB2ynr2dnzxBndUzA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear all,

I would greatly appreciate any help finding some more information about an
apocalypse myth mentioned in Richard Gombrich's *Precept and Practice*
(Routledge, p.336).

Gombrich describes it as a *murugasa?vars?va* (wild beast deluge) and the
basic premise is that the end of Buddhism is triggered by moral degeneracy
that ultimately leads to a great flood. This in turn causes humanity to
transform into wild beasts and everyone is killed.

I am interested in this *murugasa?vars?va* event: 1) Does anyone know if
there are any primary sources (in Sinhala or otherwise) that detail the
event? 2) Apart from Gombrich is there any other secondary literature on
this specific subject that you would recommend?

Thank you all in advance.

Kind regards,

James

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From rolfheiner.koch at gmail.com  Mon Sep 29 08:38:04 2014
From: rolfheiner.koch at gmail.com (Rolf Heinrich Koch)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 14 10:38:04 +0200
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query about Sinhala apocalypse myth
In-Reply-To: <CAH46kmh-uc_qWXaePTgamwOzReV50Ar1BLB2ynr2dnzxBndUzA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8853A5EEA8354C81A5D52F9A9EA45D3A@HeinersPC>

Dear James

Murugan is a synonym for Kataragama (Skanda).

You may find here all the literature you are looking for:
Where Va??i Meets Muruka?. "Landscape" Symbolism in Kataragama. Hilde K. LinkSource: Anthropos, Bd. 92, H. 1./3. (1997), pp. 91-100 
Best

Heiner

www.rolfheinrichkoch.wordpress.com

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: James Stewart 
  To: indology at list.indology.info 
  Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 7:10 AM
  Subject: [INDOLOGY] Query about Sinhala apocalypse myth


  Dear all,

  I would greatly appreciate any help finding some more information about an apocalypse myth mentioned in Richard Gombrich's Precept and Practice (Routledge, p.336). 

  Gombrich describes it as a murugasa?vars?va (wild beast deluge) and the basic premise is that the end of Buddhism is triggered by moral degeneracy that ultimately leads to a great flood. This in turn causes humanity to transform into wild beasts and everyone is killed. 

  I am interested in this murugasa?vars?va event: 1) Does anyone know if there are any primary sources (in Sinhala or otherwise) that detail the event? 2) Apart from Gombrich is there any other secondary literature on this specific subject that you would recommend?

  Thank you all in advance.

  Kind regards,

  James

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  Website: www.inkpoteducational.com



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  Associate Researcher
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From ganesan at ifpindia.org  Mon Sep 29 09:00:51 2014
From: ganesan at ifpindia.org (Dr. T. Ganesan)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 14 14:30:51 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Source of "nAdevo devam arcayet"
In-Reply-To: <CAP+pD7BGoKd=YRqZKqk_wEJZ60WS+O+tbBJec_1j4WUnxSaGSA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54291FC3.2080002@ifpindia.org>


nAdevo devamarcayet might be a general statement; but in the ancient 
unpublished text of Sivadharma, there is a passage:

na-rudrah. sam.smared rudram. na-rudro rudram arcayet .

na-rudrah. ki-rtayed rudram. na-rudro rudram a-pnuya-t  .. (Sivadharma, 
1: 25)


This idea and the passage may be the basis for all later views expressed 
in the same fashion.

Ganesan


On 29-09-2014 02:45, Chiara Policardi wrote:
>
> Dear List members,
>
> what is the source of the citation "nAdevo devam arcayet"?
>
> It is quoted as "vedic saying" (Coomaraswamy) and "tantrik saying" 
> (Eliade and others), but I haven't ever seen the precise reference.
>
>
> Thanking you in advance,
>
>
> Chiara Policardi
>
> PhD student
>
> La Sapienza University of Rome
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info


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From slaje at kabelmail.de  Mon Sep 29 09:52:09 2014
From: slaje at kabelmail.de (Walter Slaje)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 14 11:52:09 +0200
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Source of "nAdevo devam arcayet"
In-Reply-To: <54291FC3.2080002@ifpindia.org>
Message-ID: <CALoZ1nUYMA_0-O5jU5b2-EbvFvvhuN1K_kX0ztQXj29hrAJyVQ@mail.gmail.com>

This is interesting, as Ma?kha cherishes the opposite opinion, according to
which no human (ruler), but only god, deserves praise - by man, e.g.:

*mahat ka??am aho hitv? yac charva? sarvata??rutim*[1] <#_ftn1>* |*

*garv?navadhib?dhiryo nare?a st?yate nara?* || ?r?ka??hacarita 25.6 ||

------------------------------

[1] <#_ftnref1> sarvata??rutim (em.)]* sarvata? ?rutim *Ed.

?Regards,
WS
?

-----------------------------
Prof. Dr. Walter Slaje
Hermann-L?ns-Str. 1
D-99425 Weimar
Deutschland

Ego ex animi mei sententia spondeo ac polliceor
studia humanitatis impigro labore culturum et provecturum
non sordidi lucri causa nec ad vanam captandam gloriam,
sed quo magis veritas propagetur et lux eius, qua salus
humani generis continetur, clarius effulgeat.
Vindobonae, die XXI. mensis Novembris MCMLXXXIII.

2014-09-29 11:00 GMT+02:00 Dr. T. Ganesan <ganesan at ifpindia.org>:

>
> nAdevo devamarcayet might be a general statement; but in the ancient
> unpublished text of Sivadharma, there is a passage:
>
>
> n?rudra? sa?smared rudra? n?rudro rudram arcayet .
>
> n?rudra? k?rtayed rudra? n?rudro rudram ?pnuy?t  .. (Sivadharma, 1: 25)
>
> This idea and the passage may be the basis for all later views expressed
> in the same fashion.
>
> Ganesan
>
>
> On 29-09-2014 02:45, Chiara Policardi wrote:
>
>  Dear List members,
>
> what is the source of the citation ?nAdevo devam arcayet??
>
> It is quoted as ?vedic saying? (Coomaraswamy) and ?tantrik saying? (Eliade
> and others), but I haven?t ever seen the precise reference.
>
>
>  Thanking you in advance,
>
>
>  Chiara Policardi
>
> PhD student
>
> La Sapienza University of Rome
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing listINDOLOGY at list.indology.infohttp://listinfo.indology.info
>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
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From ganesan at ifpindia.org  Mon Sep 29 11:09:40 2014
From: ganesan at ifpindia.org (Dr. T. Ganesan)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 14 16:39:40 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Source of "nAdevo devam arcayet"
In-Reply-To: <CALoZ1nUYMA_0-O5jU5b2-EbvFvvhuN1K_kX0ztQXj29hrAJyVQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54293DF4.9000001@ifpindia.org>


The statement nArudro [= nAshivaH, nAdevo] rudram arcayet / contains the 
fundamental Agamic/tantric view that one has to visualise oneself as 
[and thereby become] the God one worships and then proceed to the ritual 
of worship. This is the underlying theme  of all Agamic/tantraic worship 
which is NOT found in the Vedic/puranic tradition.

Ganesan



On 29-09-2014 15:22, Walter Slaje wrote:
> This is interesting, as Ma?kha cherishes the opposite opinion, 
> according to which no human (ruler), but only god, deserves praise - 
> by man, e.g.:
>
> /mahat ka??am aho hitv? yac charva? sarvata??rutim/[1] <#_ftn1>/|/
>
> /garv?navadhib?dhiryo nare?a st?yate nara?/ || ?r?ka??hacarita 25.6 ||
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> [1] <#_ftnref1> sarvata??rutim (em.)]/sarvata? ?rutim /Ed.
>
>
> ? Regards,
> WS
> ?
>
> -----------------------------
> Prof. Dr. Walter Slaje
> Hermann-L?ns-Str. 1
> D-99425 Weimar
> Deutschland
>
> Ego ex animi mei sententia spondeo ac polliceor
> studia humanitatis impigro labore culturum et provecturum
> non sordidi lucri causa nec ad vanam captandam gloriam,
> sed quo magis veritas propagetur et lux eius, qua salus
> humani generis continetur, clarius effulgeat.
> Vindobonae, die XXI. mensis Novembris MCMLXXXIII.
>
> 2014-09-29 11:00 GMT+02:00 Dr. T. Ganesan <ganesan at ifpindia.org 
> <mailto:ganesan at ifpindia.org>>:
>
>
>     nAdevo devamarcayet might be a general statement; but in the
>     ancient unpublished text of Sivadharma, there is a passage:
>
>     n?rudra? sa?smared rudra? n?rudro rudram arcayet .
>
>     n?rudra? k?rtayed rudra? n?rudro rudram ?pnuy?t  .. (Sivadharma,
>     1: 25)
>
>
>     This idea and the passage may be the basis for all later views
>     expressed in the same fashion.
>
>     Ganesan
>
>
>     On 29-09-2014 02:45, Chiara Policardi wrote:
>>
>>     Dear List members,
>>
>>     what is the source of the citation ?nAdevo devam arcayet??
>>
>>     It is quoted as ?vedic saying? (Coomaraswamy) and ?tantrik
>>     saying? (Eliade and others), but I haven?t ever seen the precise
>>     reference.
>>
>>
>>     Thanking you in advance,
>>
>>
>>     Chiara Policardi
>>
>>     PhD student
>>
>>     La Sapienza University of Rome
>>
>>
>>
>>     _______________________________________________
>>     INDOLOGY mailing list
>>     INDOLOGY at list.indology.info  <mailto:INDOLOGY at list.indology.info>
>>     http://listinfo.indology.info
>
>
>     -- 
>
>
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UMIFRE 21 CNRS-MAEE
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From slaje at kabelmail.de  Mon Sep 29 12:25:03 2014
From: slaje at kabelmail.de (Walter Slaje)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 14 14:25:03 +0200
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Source of "nAdevo devam arcayet"
In-Reply-To: <54293DF4.9000001@ifpindia.org>
Message-ID: <CALoZ1nXgGy_=0iMbbaSi00w3EAXBELgQ+hQvWJRmdx0G3+g8Mg@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Dr Ganeshan,

sure. It was not my intention to challenge this well-known fact.

The statement of Ma?kha seems less well-known (except for a paper I am
leaving aside here for good reasons).
Except for the overall subject of his poem, which may be called "Pur??ic",
the quote as such has in its given context nothing to do with any Vedic or
Pur??ic "tradition". It was meant by Ma?kha as a very personal assertion.
He reverts to it here and there on occasion because he felt committed to
this principle to the degree that he considered himself - and was
considered by his fellows - an exception to the ordinary court poet, and
even made this attitude part of his authorial intention.
It was therefore that I restricted my words about this interesting fact to "
*Ma?kha*" alone and did not talk about a tradition, as I do not know of
such a one.

If you, or someone else, could kindly provide evidence for a Vedic or
Pur??ic background of Ma?khas verdict (~ ~ "Let humans not be praised by
humans, man should praise god alone"), which could be classified as a
"tradition", it would certainly shed some light on the originality of this
Kavi.

Thanks,
WS


-----------------------------
Prof. Dr. Walter Slaje
Hermann-L?ns-Str. 1
D-99425 Weimar
Deutschland

Ego ex animi mei sententia spondeo ac polliceor
studia humanitatis impigro labore culturum et provecturum
non sordidi lucri causa nec ad vanam captandam gloriam,
sed quo magis veritas propagetur et lux eius, qua salus
humani generis continetur, clarius effulgeat.
Vindobonae, die XXI. mensis Novembris MCMLXXXIII.

2014-09-29 13:09 GMT+02:00 Dr. T. Ganesan <ganesan at ifpindia.org>:

>
> The statement nArudro [= nAshivaH, nAdevo] rudram arcayet / contains the
> fundamental Agamic/tantric view that one has to visualise oneself as [and
> thereby become] the God one worships and then proceed to the ritual of
> worship. This is the underlying theme  of all Agamic/tantraic worship which
> is NOT found in the Vedic/puranic tradition.
>
> Ganesan
>
>
>
> On 29-09-2014 15:22, Walter Slaje wrote:
>
>  This is interesting, as Ma?kha cherishes the opposite opinion, according
> to which no human (ruler), but only god, deserves praise - by man, e.g.:
>
>  *mahat ka??am aho hitv? yac charva? sarvata??rutim*[1]
> <#148c11a0064ce06a__ftn1>* |*
>
> *garv?navadhib?dhiryo nare?a st?yate nara?* || ?r?ka??hacarita 25.6 ||
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> [1] <#148c11a0064ce06a__ftnref1> sarvata??rutim (em.)]* sarvata? ?rutim *
> Ed.
>
>  ? Regards,
>  WS
> ?
>
>  -----------------------------
> Prof. Dr. Walter Slaje
> Hermann-L?ns-Str. 1
> D-99425 Weimar
> Deutschland
>
> Ego ex animi mei sententia spondeo ac polliceor
> studia humanitatis impigro labore culturum et provecturum
> non sordidi lucri causa nec ad vanam captandam gloriam,
> sed quo magis veritas propagetur et lux eius, qua salus
> humani generis continetur, clarius effulgeat.
> Vindobonae, die XXI. mensis Novembris MCMLXXXIII.
>
>  2014-09-29 11:00 GMT+02:00 Dr. T. Ganesan <ganesan at ifpindia.org>:
>
>>
>> nAdevo devamarcayet might be a general statement; but in the ancient
>> unpublished text of Sivadharma, there is a passage:
>>
>>
>> n?rudra? sa?smared rudra? n?rudro rudram arcayet .
>>
>> n?rudra? k?rtayed rudra? n?rudro rudram ?pnuy?t  .. (Sivadharma, 1: 25)
>>
>> This idea and the passage may be the basis for all later views expressed
>> in the same fashion.
>>
>> Ganesan
>>
>>
>> On 29-09-2014 02:45, Chiara Policardi wrote:
>>
>>  Dear List members,
>>
>> what is the source of the citation ?nAdevo devam arcayet??
>>
>> It is quoted as ?vedic saying? (Coomaraswamy) and ?tantrik saying?
>> (Eliade and others), but I haven?t ever seen the precise reference.
>>
>>
>>  Thanking you in advance,
>>
>>
>>  Chiara Policardi
>>
>> PhD student
>>
>> La Sapienza University of Rome
>>
>>
>>  _______________________________________________
>> INDOLOGY mailing listINDOLOGY at list.indology.infohttp://listinfo.indology.info
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>>  INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>>  http://listinfo.indology.info
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Dr.T.Ganesan
> Senior Researcher in Saivasiddhanta
> French Institute of Pondicherry
> UMIFRE 21 CNRS-MAEE
> 11, St. Louis Street
> P.B. 33  PONDICHERRY-605001
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> Tel: +91 - 413 - 22 31 643
> E mail: ganesan at ifpindia.org
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From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com  Mon Sep 29 17:38:29 2014
From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 14 23:08:29 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] nAdevo devam arcayet
Message-ID: <CAJGj9eYhto7D+120avjg_VtphJH6rhV7aPGdq10pRX1J_vPRfg@mail.gmail.com>

 One reference is:

n?rudrastu spr???drudra? n?rudr? rudramarcay?t..
n?rudra? k?rtay?dr?dra? n?rudr? rudram?pnuy?t.. lingapur??a 21.82 ..

Regards,
Nagaraj



-- 
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From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com  Mon Sep 29 19:27:15 2014
From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 14 00:57:15 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] nAdevo devam arcayet
Message-ID: <CAJGj9eYv7pD5t5gLAXEBaGNqGk3o6RgGbMrR0GT8WEa7m-mtaA@mail.gmail.com>

nArudrO rudramarchayEt is usually quoted by the performers of mahanyAsa
pUrvaka rudrAbhishEka ritual as an explanation for the anganyaasa
karanyaasa portions of the ritual in which the performer does aavaahana
(the supernatural process of bringing and filling the spirit into one's own
self)  of rudra onto himself.

Similar anganyaasa karanyaasa portions form the early part of archanaa of
many other dEvas. nAdevo devam arcayet is probably an extension of the
statement nArudrO rudramarchayEt to the rituals other than rudrAbhiShEka.
-- 
Prof.Nagaraj Paturi
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From hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com  Tue Sep 30 01:11:54 2014
From: hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com (Harry Spier)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 14 21:11:54 -0400
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Source of "nAdevo devam arcayet"
In-Reply-To: <CAP+pD7BGoKd=YRqZKqk_wEJZ60WS+O+tbBJec_1j4WUnxSaGSA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPW7aQG6tWLKT2ELHbzntyHb2qe6DXUCROvrWhXbxTVcT9K2Cg@mail.gmail.com>

"n?devo devam arcayet" occurs in the following texts in the Muktabodha
digital library (which can be accessed from www.muktabodha.org)

kaul?val?nir?aya line: 983
nity??o?a?ik?r?avatantra with commentary setubandha line: 11217
mantrakaumud? line: 2903
??kt?nandatara?gi?? line: 3192
?r?vidy?r?avatantra line: 8700

Just do an etext search on <nAdevo deva>
The < > indicate you are using Harvard-Kyoto transliteration.

Regards,
Harry Spier
Manager, Muktabodha Digital Library

On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Chiara Policardi <
chiara.policardi at uniroma1.it> wrote:

> Dear List members,
>
> what is the source of the citation ?nAdevo devam arcayet??
>
> It is quoted as ?vedic saying? (Coomaraswamy) and ?tantrik saying? (Eliade
> and others), but I haven?t ever seen the precise reference.
>
>
> Thanking you in advance,
>
>
> Chiara Policardi
>
> PhD student
>
> La Sapienza University of Rome
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
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From hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com  Tue Sep 30 01:31:45 2014
From: hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com (Harry Spier)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 14 21:31:45 -0400
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Source of "nAdevo devam arcayet"
In-Reply-To: <CAPW7aQG6tWLKT2ELHbzntyHb2qe6DXUCROvrWhXbxTVcT9K2Cg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPW7aQHjEqiKvp0y6X9hwxQoW-Dv1r2WNYuuLLabOptt52OQ+g@mail.gmail.com>

In addition to the texts I just mentioned the phrase also occurs at:
?aktisa?gamatantra k?l?khanda : (line: 3281 )

Harry Spier

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Harry Spier <hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com>
wrote:

> "n?devo devam arcayet" occurs in the following texts in the Muktabodha
> digital library (which can be accessed from www.muktabodha.org)
>
> kaul?val?nir?aya line: 983
> nity??o?a?ik?r?avatantra with commentary setubandha line: 11217
> mantrakaumud? line: 2903
> ??kt?nandatara?gi?? line: 3192
> ?r?vidy?r?avatantra line: 8700
>
> Just do an etext search on <nAdevo deva>
> The < > indicate you are using Harvard-Kyoto transliteration.
>
> Regards,
> Harry Spier
> Manager, Muktabodha Digital Library
>
> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Chiara Policardi <
> chiara.policardi at uniroma1.it> wrote:
>
>> Dear List members,
>>
>> what is the source of the citation ?nAdevo devam arcayet??
>>
>> It is quoted as ?vedic saying? (Coomaraswamy) and ?tantrik saying?
>> (Eliade and others), but I haven?t ever seen the precise reference.
>>
>>
>> Thanking you in advance,
>>
>>
>> Chiara Policardi
>>
>> PhD student
>>
>> La Sapienza University of Rome
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>> http://listinfo.indology.info
>>
>
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From ganesan at ifpindia.org  Tue Sep 30 04:15:41 2014
From: ganesan at ifpindia.org (Dr. T. Ganesan)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 14 09:45:41 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] nAdevo devam arcayet
In-Reply-To: <CAJGj9eYv7pD5t5gLAXEBaGNqGk3o6RgGbMrR0GT8WEa7m-mtaA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <542A2E6D.3020603@ifpindia.org>

This basic concept and the statement to that effect is found in almost 
all Saiva systems and the allied SAkta systems such as the SrIvidyA. But 
in all probability, it seems to be absent ( or not so prominent ?) in 
the VaiShNava tradition, especially in the PAncarAtra system.

Ganesan

On 30-09-2014 00:57, Nagaraj Paturi wrote:
> nArudrO rudramarchayEt is usually quoted by the performers of 
> mahanyAsa pUrvaka rudrAbhishEka ritual as an explanation for the 
> anganyaasa karanyaasa portions of the ritual in which the performer 
> does aavaahana (the supernatural process of bringing and filling the 
> spirit into one's own self)  of rudra onto himself.
> Similar anganyaasa karanyaasa portions form the early part of archanaa 
> of many other dEvas. nAdevo devam arcayet is probably an extension of 
> the statement nArudrO rudramarchayEt to the rituals other than 
> rudrAbhiShEka.
> -- 
> Prof.Nagaraj Paturi
> Hyderabad-500044
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
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From nivi71r at yahoo.co.in  Tue Sep 30 05:39:35 2014
From: nivi71r at yahoo.co.in (Nivedita Rout)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 14 13:39:35 +0800
Subject: [INDOLOGY] nAdevo devam arcayet
In-Reply-To: <542A2E6D.3020603@ifpindia.org>
Message-ID: <1412055575.65275.YahooMailNeo@web193106.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>

Also, nArudrO rudramarchayEt is seen expressed in revert ways in early "Saiva canons and in later paddhati literature, for example: in Ni"svaasa uttarasuutra, 2.8.: "?iv?bhuta?
prasann?tm? ?ivasy?rcanam?caret"; in Sarvaj??nottara tantra, 5.2. "?iv?bh?tah
sup?t?tm? ?ivasy?rcanam?rabhet" and in many "Saiva Paddhati literature -"?ivo
bh?tv? ?iva? yajet". Morever, it is a Vedantic concept of identifying oneself with Brahman (aham brahmosmi, so aham), and implemented in "Saiva philosophy as well in "Saiva rituals and worship as Prof. Nagaraj Paturi mentions.
>
>
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] nAdevo devam arcayet
 


This basic concept and the statement to that effect is found in almost all Saiva systems and the allied SAkta systems such as the SrIvidyA. But in all probability, it seems to be absent ( or not so prominent ?) in the VaiShNava tradition, especially in the PAncarAtra system.

Ganesan

On 30-09-2014 00:57, Nagaraj Paturi wrote:

nArudrO rudramarchayEt is usually quoted by the performers of mahanyAsa pUrvaka rudrAbhishEka ritual as an explanation for the anganyaasa karanyaasa portions of the ritual in which the performer does aavaahana (the supernatural process of bringing and filling the spirit into one's own self)  of rudra onto himself.
> 
>Similar anganyaasa karanyaasa portions form the early part of archanaa of many other dEvas. nAdevo devam arcayet is probably an extension of the statement nArudrO rudramarchayEt to the rituals other than rudrAbhiShEka.
>-- 
>
>Prof.Nagaraj Paturi
>Hyderabad-500044
>
>
>_______________________________________________
INDOLOGY mailing list INDOLOGY at list.indology.info http://listinfo.indology.info



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From ganesan at ifpindia.org  Tue Sep 30 06:16:25 2014
From: ganesan at ifpindia.org (Dr. T. Ganesan)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 14 11:46:25 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] nAdevo devam arcayet
In-Reply-To: <1412055575.65275.YahooMailNeo@web193106.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <542A4AB9.1070703@ifpindia.org>



Though Vedanta has the concept of aham brahmasmi, etc. THOSE CONCEPTS 
ARE NOT USED AND NOT MEANT TO BE USED IN DAILY RITUAL BY THE VEDANTA 
FOLLOWERS. These MahAvAkya-s of the VedAnta are strictly for meditation 
with the sole aim to realise the oneness or identity. In none of the 
VedAnta traditions and especially in the Advaita vedAnta tradition also 
this visualisd identity is _not prescribed as a preliminary to daily 
worship._ In fact, it is the opposite of it: According to VedAnta, after 
realisation of aham brahmAsmi, there is no further ritual to be 
performed. !!

But the Saiva Agamic/Tantric context is entirely different where this 
non-difference between the individual self and Siva is first visualised 
by the self and then the ritual of worship is performed. This visualised 
identity is the precondition for any worship in the SaivAgama. For that 
the _SaivAgama-s need not import it from the VedAnta_. And, there is no 
evidence also to prove such a borrowing.

Further, visualising (dhyAna, bhAvanA) oneself as Rudra , Siva, etc. in 
the Agama/Tantric system is also fundamentally different from meditating 
ahaM brahmAsmi as prescribed in VedAnta. For, in the SaivAgama tradition 
the worshipper visualises himself to be Siva in all His full attributes 
as conceived and as prescribed in the respective SaivAgama-s by 
performing the various nyAsa-s, and reciting the mantra-s,  whereas, 
herein lies the basic difference, in the VedAnta, the meditator 
meditates on Brahma without attributes or on Brahma for whom the VedAnta 
does not give any complete physical attributes as it is against the very 
vedAnta principle, and this meditation is done in vedAnta tradition 
without any nyAsa or mantra recitation.

By the way, there are quite a few fundamental differences between the 
concept of Advaita and its connotations as proclaimed in the VedAnta  
and in the Saiva Agamic systems.


Ganesan




On 30-09-2014 11:09, Nivedita Rout wrote:
>> Also, nArudrO rudramarchayEt is seen expressed in revert ways in 
>> early "Saiva canons and in later paddhati literature, for example: in 
>> Ni"svaasa uttarasuutra, 2.8.: "/s'ivi-bhutah. prasanna-tma- 
>> s'ivasya-rcanama-caret"; in Sarvaj/?a-nottara tantra, 5.2. 
>> "/s'ivi-bhu-tah supu-ta-tma- s'ivasya-rcanama-rabhet" and in many 
>> "Saiva Paddhati literature -"//s'ivo bhu-tva- s'ivam. yajet". 
>> Morever, it is a Vedantic concept of identifying oneself with Brahman 
>> (aham brahmosmi, so aham), and implemented in "Saiva philosophy as 
>> well in "Saiva rituals and worship as Prof. Nagaraj Paturi mentions./
>> /
>> /
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 30, 2014 9:45 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] nAdevo devam arcayet
>
> This basic concept and the statement to that effect is found in almost 
> all Saiva systems and the allied SAkta systems such as the SrIvidyA. 
> But in all probability, it seems to be absent ( or not so prominent ?) 
> in the VaiShNava tradition, especially in the PAncarAtra system.
>
> Ganesan
>
> On 30-09-2014 00:57, Nagaraj Paturi wrote:
>> nArudrO rudramarchayEt is usually quoted by the performers of 
>> mahanyAsa pUrvaka rudrAbhishEka ritual as an explanation for the 
>> anganyaasa karanyaasa portions of the ritual in which the performer 
>> does aavaahana (the supernatural process of bringing and filling the 
>> spirit into one's own self)  of rudra onto himself.
>> Similar anganyaasa karanyaasa portions form the early part of 
>> archanaa of many other dEvas. nAdevo devam arcayet is probably an 
>> extension of the statement nArudrO rudramarchayEt to the rituals 
>> other than rudrAbhiShEka.
>> -- 


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From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com  Tue Sep 30 06:16:41 2014
From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 14 11:46:41 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Source of "nAdevo devam arcayet"
Message-ID: <CAJGj9eap0cX-2RkXRB8EjXtFcqub0195kBdoBe6n9zRYgsxi6g@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks to Niveditaji for alternative expressions with the word siva for
rudra for the oft quoted nArudrO rudramarchayEt .

But these expressions need not  necessarily be taken to Advaita Vedanta.

They might have to do with the ritual requirement of an 'elevated' level of
'consciousness' for the operation of the supernatural. Otherwise the verb
archayEt and the conditionality in the sentence can not be explained.








Also, nArudrO rudramarchayEt is seen expressed in revert ways in early
"Saiva canons and in later paddhati literature, for example: in Ni"svaasa
uttarasuutra, 2.8.: "?iv?bhuta?
prasann?tm? ?ivasy?rcanam?caret"; in Sarvaj??nottara tantra, 5.2.
"?iv?bh?tah
sup?t?tm? ?ivasy?rcanam?rabhet" and in many "Saiva Paddhati literature
-"?ivo
bh?tv? ?iva? yajet". Morever, it is a Vedantic concept of identifying
oneself with Brahman (aham brahmosmi, so aham), and implemented in "Saiva
philosophy as well in "Saiva rituals and worship as Prof. Nagaraj Paturi
mentions.


-- 
Prof.Nagaraj Paturi
Hyderabad-500044


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From karp at uw.edu.pl  Tue Sep 30 09:32:35 2014
From: karp at uw.edu.pl (Artur Karp)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 14 11:32:35 +0200
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Churning king Vena
In-Reply-To: <CAEgrCzBn12wuYUbRW51giBNgqOF4aqxYYOcFH_vCcCe0QQ1sQA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEgrCzCde_ZqNiSwC4noR-Jh2vqaSDYCSTUaPb5rPwoQVMJNaA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear List,

Back after vacations and back to King Vena's story.

My search for a digitalized version of the *Vishnudharmottara-purana* was
unsuccessful. Two websites offer the pdf, but not without a specific price:
a bunch of files (seen as high-risk malware by my anti-virus program) to be
downloaded before the main pdf's download.

Could someone, please - someone with ready access to the text - scan for me
the pages (kanda I, 108-109) referring to King Anga, his son Vena and his
grandson Prithu?

With eternal gratitude (in advance!)

Artur Karp



2014-03-20 6:27 GMT+01:00 Artur Karp <karp at uw.edu.pl>:

> Dear List,
>
> Bhagavata Purana has the brahmans churning at first the dead king Vena's
> thigh and then his arms - in order to create a new king.
>
> BhP_04.14.043/1 vini?cityaivam ??ayo vipannasya mah?pate?
> BhP_04.14.043/2 *mamanthur ?ru?* taras? tatr?s?d b?huko nara?
>
> BhP_04.15.001/1 atha tasya punar viprair aputrasya mah?pate?
> BhP_04.15.001/2 *b?hubhy?? mathyam?n?bhy??* mithuna? samapadyata
>
> Would someone comment on the procedure involved and the meaning of that -
> certainly - strange ritual?
>
> Has someone worked on the king Vena's story? Any book? Paper?
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Artur Karp
>


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From nivi71r at yahoo.co.in  Tue Sep 30 11:10:46 2014
From: nivi71r at yahoo.co.in (Nivedita Rout)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 14 19:10:46 +0800
Subject: [INDOLOGY]  Source of "nAdevo devam arcayet"
In-Reply-To: <1412073672.43414.YahooMailNeo@web193102.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1412075446.88100.YahooMailNeo@web193104.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>



Thank you Prof. Nagaraj Paturiji & Dr. T. Ganesan,

You are right about the worshiper's elevated consciousness. But the saying refers to the concept of sayujyata in the said references and it is stated in the context of internal worship (antaryaga: purification of inner being) but not the operation of supernatural. It is a mandatory requirement for the Saiva worshipper to elevate one's consciousness to Siva consciousness to be eligible to worship Siva. For this one needs to acquire certain divine qualities. Its elaborate explanation is found often in Puranas, Saiva scriptures and Saiva paddhati literature. This is fundamentally a Vedantic/Upanisadic concept which is said to be practiced in daily worship. I mean it is a ritualistic application of philosophical thought.
 
Regards,





________________________________
 From: Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi at gmail.com>
To: indology at list.indology.info 
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Source of "nAdevo devam arcayet"
 


 
Thanks to Niveditaji for alternative expressions with the word siva for rudra for the oft quoted nArudrO rudramarchayEt .
 
But these expressions need not  necessarily be taken to Advaita Vedanta. 
 
They might have to do with the ritual requirement of an 'elevated' level of 'consciousness' for the operation of the supernatural. Otherwise the verb archayEt and the conditionality in the sentence can not be explained.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Also, nArudrO rudramarchayEt is seen expressed in revert ways in early "Saiva canons and in later paddhati literature, for example: in Ni"svaasa uttarasuutra, 2.8.: "?iv?bhuta?
prasann?tm? ?ivasy?rcanam?caret"; in Sarvaj??nottara tantra, 5.2. "?iv?bh?tah
sup?t?tm? ?ivasy?rcanam?rabhet" and in many "Saiva Paddhati literature -"?ivo
bh?tv? ?iva? yajet". Morever, it is a Vedantic concept of identifying oneself with Brahman (aham brahmosmi, so aham), and implemented in "Saiva philosophy as well in "Saiva rituals and worship as Prof. Nagaraj Paturi mentions.


-- 

Prof.Nagaraj Paturi
Hyderabad-500044
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From wujastyk at gmail.com  Tue Sep 30 14:51:46 2014
From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 14 16:51:46 +0200
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Working free for Oxford Bibliographies Online
Message-ID: <CAKdt-CfcgF2Z=hEN1wD5fk3WiyjUhYsZLZmv4ZHQtq=bZn0uXA@mail.gmail.com>

A few years ago, I wrote an annotated bibliography on Indian Medicine
<http://www.oxfordbibliographies.com/view/document/obo-9780195399318/obo-9780195399318-0035.xml>
for the OBO project.  When I originally did the work, it took *much* longer
than I had anticipated.  I had thought I could just dust off a teaching
bibliography, but it turned out to be several weeks of careful work.  I
should think my hourly rate of payment for the work was about 10% of the
minimum wage.  But I was pleased with the result - I think I did a useful
job.  And OUP's online site is good, and adds various nice
internet-tweaks.  But it's a licensed product.  It's not available to the
public, but only to institutional subscribers.  Individual articles, like
mine, are apparently sold through Amazon and other outlets for about $7 a
pop.

Last week I was contacted by OUP and invited to update the bibliography.
They offered no payment. I asked, and was offered $50 worth of OUP books.
I thought that was not worthwhile.  I can't revise the bibliography
meaningfully in 90 minutes.  So I asked whether I could at least have free
access to OBO in return for doing the revisions.  I was told that this
decision was above my editor's authority, and therefore "no."

I have now sent OUP the following decision not to continue revising my
(their) bibliography:

After some reflection, I can't see why I would do this revision work for no
meaningful remuneration, and no way of accessing my own work once online,
and when OUP is presumably making profits from licensing the work I
created.  I hope you can see that there is little incentive for me.  I
think, actually, that the overall business model is seriously flawed.

I would feel more motivated to do it, I think, if you were able to find
someone in OUP with the authority to give me permanent gratis access to OBO.

Sincerely,

I know that several of my colleagues here in the INDOLOGY forum have also
contributed excellent guides to OBO, so I thought I would share my
experience.

I have managed to write this whole email without using the word
"exploitation."  Oops...

Sincerely,
Dominik


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From dipak.d2004 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 30 17:27:13 2014
From: dipak.d2004 at gmail.com (Dipak Bhattacharya)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 14 22:57:13 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Working free for Oxford Bibliographies Online
In-Reply-To: <CAKdt-CfcgF2Z=hEN1wD5fk3WiyjUhYsZLZmv4ZHQtq=bZn0uXA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABEB9qLdDwtBx-JbGrVrNtDqQ0WmDY2q96j4zv6fw2KQotu2Fw@mail.gmail.com>

Full sympathy!

Though I have no experience with OBO I have experience of writing for
Indian origin encyclopaedias. The first time I wrote at the age of 26-30 I
was paid nothing by an ancient Government Institute of fame. Next I wrote
for one Hindu Encyclopaedia and paid half of what was promised. The third
time I had an experience with an Institute at Bangalore. They did not pay
anything. None of them replied to my queries.

Only the Asiatic Society, Calcutta paid.

But at present I decline to write for such projects.

Naturally, I have full sympathy for you but think that you are not in so
bad a position as that in which a connectionless, non-influential Indian
contributor often is.

Best

DB

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:21 PM, Dominik Wujastyk <wujastyk at gmail.com>
wrote:

> A few years ago, I wrote an annotated bibliography on Indian Medicine
> <http://www.oxfordbibliographies.com/view/document/obo-9780195399318/obo-9780195399318-0035.xml>
> for the OBO project.  When I originally did the work, it took *much* longer
> than I had anticipated.  I had thought I could just dust off a teaching
> bibliography, but it turned out to be several weeks of careful work.  I
> should think my hourly rate of payment for the work was about 10% of the
> minimum wage.  But I was pleased with the result - I think I did a useful
> job.  And OUP's online site is good, and adds various nice
> internet-tweaks.  But it's a licensed product.  It's not available to the
> public, but only to institutional subscribers.  Individual articles, like
> mine, are apparently sold through Amazon and other outlets for about $7 a
> pop.
>
> Last week I was contacted by OUP and invited to update the bibliography.
> They offered no payment. I asked, and was offered $50 worth of OUP books.
> I thought that was not worthwhile.  I can't revise the bibliography
> meaningfully in 90 minutes.  So I asked whether I could at least have free
> access to OBO in return for doing the revisions.  I was told that this
> decision was above my editor's authority, and therefore "no."
>
> I have now sent OUP the following decision not to continue revising my
> (their) bibliography:
>
> After some reflection, I can't see why I would do this revision work for
> no meaningful remuneration, and no way of accessing my own work once
> online, and when OUP is presumably making profits from licensing the work I
> created.  I hope you can see that there is little incentive for me.  I
> think, actually, that the overall business model is seriously flawed.
>
> I would feel more motivated to do it, I think, if you were able to find
> someone in OUP with the authority to give me permanent gratis access to OBO.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> I know that several of my colleagues here in the INDOLOGY forum have also
> contributed excellent guides to OBO, so I thought I would share my
> experience.
>
> I have managed to write this whole email without using the word
> "exploitation."  Oops...
>
> Sincerely,
> Dominik
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
>


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From alexwatson at fas.harvard.edu  Tue Sep 30 18:33:03 2014
From: alexwatson at fas.harvard.edu (Watson, Alex)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 14 18:33:03 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Delhi University Sanskrit Dept Project to prove aryans were not foreigners
Message-ID: <6387956D22BE9F4BA569E78BF85B528DACB3ED3C@harvandmbx05.fasmail.priv>



http://m.economictimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/dus-sanskrit-dept-kicks
tarts-project-to-prove-aryans-were-not-foreigners/articleshow/43838590.cms

Alex Watson
Preceptor in Sanskrit
Harvard University
http://harvard.academia.edu/AlexWatson






From V.Sasson at marianopolis.edu  Tue Sep 30 18:44:41 2014
From: V.Sasson at marianopolis.edu (Vanessa Sasson)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 14 18:44:41 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Nepal reading list
Message-ID: <73C8D05F0B9DFC4D84EA02AFC695DD087A2A4D09@Boisvert.marianopolis.com>

Dear colleagues,

This coming January, I will be making the adventurous move of bringing 15 students to Nepal. I have not been in 20 years, so there is a lot of catching up to do!

The students will each be bringing at least one book about Nepal with them (aside from the research they will be doing before we leave), and the books will serve as a kind of on-site library at the hotel for them.  I am trying to put together a good reading list for them to choose from - anything from history of Nepal, to the environment, and of course religion, art and culture. I have already included a few of David Gellner's books, Todd Lewis' Popular Buddhism, and Whelpton's History of Nepal.

If any of you have recommendations to add, I would be most grateful. I am happy to circulate the results of this reading list after I am done putting it together. Of course, if you have great articles to include, I will happily to include those as well.

Best wishes,
Vanessa R. Sasson
Religious Studies
Marianopolis College


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From hermantull at gmail.com  Tue Sep 30 19:02:07 2014
From: hermantull at gmail.com (Herman Tull)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 14 15:02:07 -0400
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Working free for Oxford Bibliographies Online
In-Reply-To: <CAKdt-CfcgF2Z=hEN1wD5fk3WiyjUhYsZLZmv4ZHQtq=bZn0uXA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFdBLNg=E+wsJcK6rVsRUqV7az-YBZtVjgTKwvJe+QQr9+Kc9Q@mail.gmail.com>

I wrote two pieces for the OBO ("Karma" and "Vedic Agni").  The work
required was indeed significant; no less than that needed for a major
article.

Free access is hardly asking "too much," and I support your position not to
contribute further revision without at least gaining this token in exchange
for our work.

Herman Tull

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Dominik Wujastyk <wujastyk at gmail.com>
wrote:

> A few years ago, I wrote an annotated bibliography on Indian Medicine
> <http://www.oxfordbibliographies.com/view/document/obo-9780195399318/obo-9780195399318-0035.xml>
> for the OBO project.  When I originally did the work, it took *much* longer
> than I had anticipated.  I had thought I could just dust off a teaching
> bibliography, but it turned out to be several weeks of careful work.  I
> should think my hourly rate of payment for the work was about 10% of the
> minimum wage.  But I was pleased with the result - I think I did a useful
> job.  And OUP's online site is good, and adds various nice
> internet-tweaks.  But it's a licensed product.  It's not available to the
> public, but only to institutional subscribers.  Individual articles, like
> mine, are apparently sold through Amazon and other outlets for about $7 a
> pop.
>
> Last week I was contacted by OUP and invited to update the bibliography.
> They offered no payment. I asked, and was offered $50 worth of OUP books.
> I thought that was not worthwhile.  I can't revise the bibliography
> meaningfully in 90 minutes.  So I asked whether I could at least have free
> access to OBO in return for doing the revisions.  I was told that this
> decision was above my editor's authority, and therefore "no."
>
> I have now sent OUP the following decision not to continue revising my
> (their) bibliography:
>
> After some reflection, I can't see why I would do this revision work for
> no meaningful remuneration, and no way of accessing my own work once
> online, and when OUP is presumably making profits from licensing the work I
> created.  I hope you can see that there is little incentive for me.  I
> think, actually, that the overall business model is seriously flawed.
>
> I would feel more motivated to do it, I think, if you were able to find
> someone in OUP with the authority to give me permanent gratis access to OBO.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> I know that several of my colleagues here in the INDOLOGY forum have also
> contributed excellent guides to OBO, so I thought I would share my
> experience.
>
> I have managed to write this whole email without using the word
> "exploitation."  Oops...
>
> Sincerely,
> Dominik
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
>



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From jemhouben at gmail.com  Tue Sep 30 23:53:29 2014
From: jemhouben at gmail.com (Jan E.M. Houben)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 14 01:53:29 +0200
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Source of "nAdevo devam arcayet"
In-Reply-To: <54293DF4.9000001@ifpindia.org>
Message-ID: <CAGCGLoA2meb-oi8T3EEo0EB8aA5svipRG+qhbt-VrRk5ueF19Q@mail.gmail.com>

These references are interesting precisely in the light of what is already
very clearly found in Vedic texts (RV 5.44.14-15) and ritual:
see my article THE BRAHMIN INTELLECTUAL: HISTORY, RITUAL AND ?TIME OUT OF
TIME? (JIPh 30 [2002]) paragr. 3.3.
Jan

3.3
We thus see that the ritual as well as the Brahmana-explanations

associated with it possess features inevitably undermining and doing away
with the narrativity and historicity which, following Ricoeur?s

comprehensive analysis, at once pervade and shape mundane life. ... For
instance when the sacrificer in the Soma-sacrifice

has undergone the consecration (diksa) he is declared consecrated (diksita)
and one should not touch him nor call him by his own name until after the
sacrifice is over (Caland and Henry 1906: 20?21).

... The Adhvaryu-priest, at the beginning of the main offering on new- or
fullmoon day, is required to ?think on Prajapati? (prajapatim manasa
dhyayan, Apastamba Srauta Sutra 2.12.7).

... formulas such as the so-called Dasahotr (Taittiriya Aranyaka 3.1) which
gives cosmic identifications of participants and instruments in the
sacrifice (Apastamba Srauta Sutra 4.9.3). ...

The participants thus associate themselves with cosmic entities, or even
lose their personalities of worldly narrative reality when they are
identified as players in an ahistoric cosmic drama.

Prof. Dr. Jan E.M. Houben,
Directeur d Etudes ? Sources et Histoire de la Tradition Sanskrite ?
Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, Sciences historiques et philologiques,
Sorbonne ? 54, rue Saint-Jacques
CS 20525 ? 75005 Paris ? France.
johannes.houben at ephe.sorbonne.fr <JEMHouben at gmail.com>
*https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben
<https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben>*


On 29 September 2014 13:09, Dr. T. Ganesan <ganesan at ifpindia.org> wrote:

>
> The statement nArudro [= nAshivaH, nAdevo] rudram arcayet / contains the
> fundamental Agamic/tantric view that one has to visualise oneself as [and
> thereby become] the God one worships and then proceed to the ritual of
> worship. This is the underlying theme  of all Agamic/tantraic worship which
> is NOT found in the Vedic/puranic tradition.
>
> Ganesan
>
>
>
>
> On 29-09-2014 15:22, Walter Slaje wrote:
>
>  This is interesting, as Ma?kha cherishes the opposite opinion, according
> to which no human (ruler), but only god, deserves praise - by man, e.g.:
>
>  *mahat ka??am aho hitv? yac charva? sarvata??rutim*[1]
> <#148c11aae6f90b1e__ftn1>* |*
>
> *garv?navadhib?dhiryo nare?a st?yate nara?* || ?r?ka??hacarita 25.6 ||
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> [1] <#148c11aae6f90b1e__ftnref1> sarvata??rutim (em.)]* sarvata? ?rutim *
> Ed.
>
>  ? Regards,
>  WS
> ?
>
>  -----------------------------
> Prof. Dr. Walter Slaje
> Hermann-L?ns-Str. 1
> D-99425 Weimar
> Deutschland
>
> Ego ex animi mei sententia spondeo ac polliceor
> studia humanitatis impigro labore culturum et provecturum
> non sordidi lucri causa nec ad vanam captandam gloriam,
> sed quo magis veritas propagetur et lux eius, qua salus
> humani generis continetur, clarius effulgeat.
> Vindobonae, die XXI. mensis Novembris MCMLXXXIII.
>
>  2014-09-29 11:00 GMT+02:00 Dr. T. Ganesan <ganesan at ifpindia.org>:
>
>>
>> nAdevo devamarcayet might be a general statement; but in the ancient
>> unpublished text of Sivadharma, there is a passage:
>>
>>
>> n?rudra? sa?smared rudra? n?rudro rudram arcayet .
>>
>> n?rudra? k?rtayed rudra? n?rudro rudram ?pnuy?t  .. (Sivadharma, 1: 25)
>>
>> This idea and the passage may be the basis for all later views expressed
>> in the same fashion.
>>
>> Ganesan
>>
>>
>> On 29-09-2014 02:45, Chiara Policardi wrote:
>>
>>  Dear List members,
>>
>> what is the source of the citation ?nAdevo devam arcayet??
>>
>> It is quoted as ?vedic saying? (Coomaraswamy) and ?tantrik saying?
>> (Eliade and others), but I haven?t ever seen the precise reference.
>>
>>
>>  Thanking you in advance,
>>
>>
>>  Chiara Policardi
>>
>> PhD student
>>
>> La Sapienza University of Rome
>>
>>
>>  _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
>
> --
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> Senior Researcher in Saivasiddhanta
> French Institute of Pondicherry
> UMIFRE 21 CNRS-MAEE
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From dc.lammerts at rutgers.edu  Wed Sep 10 16:02:23 2014
From: dc.lammerts at rutgers.edu (DC Lammerts)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 14 16:02:23 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Auto Reply
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I am on leave during the 2014-2015 academic year, with irregular access to email. Please excuse any delay in response.

DC Lammerts
Assistant Professor
Department of Religion
Rutgers University