From swright at nalandauniv.com  Sat Nov  1 17:39:57 2014
From: swright at nalandauniv.com (Samuel Wright)
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 14 23:09:57 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Citalebhatta Prakarana (Bombay, 1926) by RS Pimputkar
Message-ID: <CAMVTn9P=p8ZRcm--CHhOknux3e5NN3F760HK2JmZhzq4krK6zA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Colleagues,

I'm writing to inquire whether anyone might be able to send me a
scanned/digital version of Citalebhatta Prakarana (Bombay, 1926) by RS
Pimputkar.

I've not been able to find even one hard copy of this title (searching
Worldcat and SAUC, for example) and don't find it in DLI.

Any help would be much appreciated -

Many thanks,
Sam

Nalanda University
School of Historical Studies
Rajgir, Bihar


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From ashok.aklujkar at gmail.com  Sat Nov  1 19:07:17 2014
From: ashok.aklujkar at gmail.com (Ashok Aklujkar)
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 14 12:07:17 -0700
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Citalebhatta Prakarana (Bombay, 1926) by RS Pimputkar
In-Reply-To: <CAMVTn9P=p8ZRcm--CHhOknux3e5NN3F760HK2JmZhzq4krK6zA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6317D9AE-94BD-401A-B19F-108746C9D18E@mail.ubc.ca>

This is probably a Marathi text, not Sanskrit. Details of its publication may be in books that are brought to your attention if you google with "Marathi - Granth - Suchi" or "Morathi-Grantha-Suchi" (two vols by Shankar Ganesh Date) and surveys such as "????? ????? ?????????? ??? ?????" by Sharad Gogate.

More promising libraries for works such as Citalebhatta Prakarana will be the public libraries maintained (usually somehow maintained) by the Government of Maharashtra in Mumbai and Pune, the University of Mumbai library, Mumbai Marathi Grantha Sangrahalaya. the library of the Sahitya Sangha in Mumbai (in the Girgaon part?). the Deccan College library, the Bhandarkar Oriental Institute Library, the Bharat Itihas Samshodhak Mandal library, all three in Pune, and the India Office Library in London, perhaps also the National Library of India in Kolkata. 

a.a.



On Nov 1, 2014, at 10:39 AM, Samuel Wright <swright at nalandauniv.com> wrote:

> Dear Colleagues,
> 
> I'm writing to inquire whether anyone might be able to send me a scanned/digital version of Citalebhatta Prakarana (Bombay, 1926) by RS Pimputkar. 
> 
> I've not been able to find even one hard copy of this title (searching Worldcat and SAUC, for example) and don't find it in DLI.
> 
> Any help would be much appreciated - 
> 
> Many thanks,
> Sam
> 
> Nalanda University
> School of Historical Studies
> Rajgir, Bihar
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info



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From adheesh1 at gmail.com  Sat Nov  1 19:22:42 2014
From: adheesh1 at gmail.com (Adheesh Sathaye)
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 14 12:22:42 -0700
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Citalebhatta Prakarana (Bombay, 1926) by RS Pimputkar
In-Reply-To: <CAMVTn9P=p8ZRcm--CHhOknux3e5NN3F760HK2JmZhzq4krK6zA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5DA013C2-F878-481E-83CC-07A0FD5D8046@gmail.com>

Dear Samuel,

Perhaps helpful in your search might be Rosalind O?Hanlon?s note that ?These documents have been reprinted in C. Y. Mule et al (eds), _Devarukhe_ (Bombay: Ramesh Visnu Nimbkar, 1973), pp. 87-107.? (cited in O?Hanlon, ?Letters Home: Brahman Pandits and the Maratha Regions in Early Modern India,? _Modern Asian Studies_ 44(2010): 201-240, p. 239.) 

[I should say that a quick search does not, however, reveal any obvious sources for this reprint either!]

All best wishes,
Adheesh



----
Adheesh Sathaye
Department of Asian Studies
University of British Columbia


On Nov 1, 2014, at 10.39, Samuel Wright <swright at nalandauniv.com> wrote:

> Dear Colleagues,
> 
> I'm writing to inquire whether anyone might be able to send me a scanned/digital version of Citalebhatta Prakarana (Bombay, 1926) by RS Pimputkar. 
> 
> I've not been able to find even one hard copy of this title (searching Worldcat and SAUC, for example) and don't find it in DLI.
> 
> Any help would be much appreciated - 
> 
> Many thanks,
> Sam
> 
> Nalanda University
> School of Historical Studies
> Rajgir, Bihar
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info








From shrinsaha at gmail.com  Sat Nov  1 19:24:21 2014
From: shrinsaha at gmail.com (Niranjan Saha)
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 14 00:54:21 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Availability of Samkara's works
Message-ID: <CAHuz+Cp8iDHL2c880mvM8pvTp-hbftDkxb5Z3eGviAe7XCe2UQ@mail.gmail.com>

Dear list members,

Does anybody have any knowledge about the following works of Sankara? I
would appreciate if any body could supply me with PDFs of these works.


1. Hastamalakiyam of Samkara with a commentary  by Svayamprakasha.

2. Sastranirupanam of Samkara with a commentary by Saccidananda Yogin
(Nirnaysagar Press).


Best regards,

Niranjan


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From swright at nalandauniv.com  Sun Nov  2 04:31:59 2014
From: swright at nalandauniv.com (Samuel Wright)
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 14 10:01:59 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Citalebhatta Prakarana (Bombay, 1926) by RS Pimputkar
In-Reply-To: <5DA013C2-F878-481E-83CC-07A0FD5D8046@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMVTn9MYX5MXnZft5oQz7DsK1E+SLxnHT+xsOMo4KQX6fQ4bjA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks to those who have responded so far. Though following Adheesh's
suggestion, I too have not been able to locate 'Devarukhe' by Mule et al.

If and when located, I'll send a note to the list.

Best,
Sam


On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Adheesh Sathaye <adheesh1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Samuel,
>
> Perhaps helpful in your search might be Rosalind O?Hanlon?s note that
> ?These documents have been reprinted in C. Y. Mule et al (eds), _Devarukhe_
> (Bombay: Ramesh Visnu Nimbkar, 1973), pp. 87-107.? (cited in O?Hanlon,
> ?Letters Home: Brahman Pandits and the Maratha Regions in Early Modern
> India,? _Modern Asian Studies_ 44(2010): 201-240, p. 239.)
>
> [I should say that a quick search does not, however, reveal any obvious
> sources for this reprint either!]
>
> All best wishes,
> Adheesh
>
>
>
> ----
> Adheesh Sathaye
> Department of Asian Studies
> University of British Columbia
>
>
> On Nov 1, 2014, at 10.39, Samuel Wright <swright at nalandauniv.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear Colleagues,
> >
> > I'm writing to inquire whether anyone might be able to send me a
> scanned/digital version of Citalebhatta Prakarana (Bombay, 1926) by RS
> Pimputkar.
> >
> > I've not been able to find even one hard copy of this title (searching
> Worldcat and SAUC, for example) and don't find it in DLI.
> >
> > Any help would be much appreciated -
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > Sam
> >
> > Nalanda University
> > School of Historical Studies
> > Rajgir, Bihar
> > _______________________________________________
> > INDOLOGY mailing list
> > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> > http://listinfo.indology.info
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
>


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From mmdesh at umich.edu  Sun Nov  2 13:50:22 2014
From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande)
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 14 08:50:22 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Citalebhatta Prakarana (Bombay, 1926) by RS Pimputkar
In-Reply-To: <CAMVTn9MYX5MXnZft5oQz7DsK1E+SLxnHT+xsOMo4KQX6fQ4bjA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAB3-dzd0BfjF_qF=h+X6iPCp3fykNa996j7ojMOFoZ85Jfks5A@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Samuel,

     I have located my print copy of the Chitalebhatta Prakarana.  This is
a photocopy of the original at the library of the Bhandarkar Oriental
Research Institute in Pune.  In the next few days, I will see if I can make
a scanned pdf from my photocopy.  Best,

Madhav Deshpande

On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 12:31 AM, Samuel Wright <swright at nalandauniv.com>
wrote:

> Thanks to those who have responded so far. Though following Adheesh's
> suggestion, I too have not been able to locate 'Devarukhe' by Mule et al.
>
> If and when located, I'll send a note to the list.
>
> Best,
> Sam
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Adheesh Sathaye <adheesh1 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Samuel,
>>
>> Perhaps helpful in your search might be Rosalind O?Hanlon?s note that
>> ?These documents have been reprinted in C. Y. Mule et al (eds), _Devarukhe_
>> (Bombay: Ramesh Visnu Nimbkar, 1973), pp. 87-107.? (cited in O?Hanlon,
>> ?Letters Home: Brahman Pandits and the Maratha Regions in Early Modern
>> India,? _Modern Asian Studies_ 44(2010): 201-240, p. 239.)
>>
>> [I should say that a quick search does not, however, reveal any obvious
>> sources for this reprint either!]
>>
>> All best wishes,
>> Adheesh
>>
>>
>>
>> ----
>> Adheesh Sathaye
>> Department of Asian Studies
>> University of British Columbia
>>
>>
>> On Nov 1, 2014, at 10.39, Samuel Wright <swright at nalandauniv.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Dear Colleagues,
>> >
>> > I'm writing to inquire whether anyone might be able to send me a
>> scanned/digital version of Citalebhatta Prakarana (Bombay, 1926) by RS
>> Pimputkar.
>> >
>> > I've not been able to find even one hard copy of this title (searching
>> Worldcat and SAUC, for example) and don't find it in DLI.
>> >
>> > Any help would be much appreciated -
>> >
>> > Many thanks,
>> > Sam
>> >
>> > Nalanda University
>> > School of Historical Studies
>> > Rajgir, Bihar
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > INDOLOGY mailing list
>> > INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>> > http://listinfo.indology.info
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>> http://listinfo.indology.info
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
>



-- 
Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
The University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48104-1608, USA


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From hellwig7 at gmx.de  Sun Nov  2 18:39:10 2014
From: hellwig7 at gmx.de (hellwig7 at gmx.de)
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 14 19:39:10 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Sanskrit scans database
Message-ID: <4B4DA848863D48EBA489DABA51DA2D1F@OliverHP>

Dear list,

a new resource for searching - partly undigitized - Sanskrit books is available at
http://www.sanskrit-linguistics.org/sanskrit-scans/query.php

The website gives you access to a database of Sanskrit books that have been digitized WITHOUT manual correction. This is the very first release, and I'm planning to increase the database with scanned texts that are freely available in the web.
To search the database, enter a word in simplified Harvard-Kyoto in the search field (e.g., narmada or sarasvati*), and press the button 'Search'. Enter does not work at the moment. More details about the input conventions are available when you press the help button on the website. The rest of the website should be self explanatory.


Best wishes, Oliver

---
PD Dr. Oliver Hellwig
SFB 991, University of D?sseldorf


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From rekharanitj at gmail.com  Mon Nov  3 08:40:06 2014
From: rekharanitj at gmail.com (rekha rani)
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 14 14:10:06 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Call for Papers: SEECHAC Colloquium Heidelberg 16-18 Nov 2015
In-Reply-To: <5450F9B6.3050906@asia-europe.uni-heidelberg.de>
Message-ID: <CA+QA-K0ZDmUhPgSryVO=ko87S8ZYUU7mkBp0ehd4M4ONQeuBxA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Brigit,

?              It is very happy news for all of us that you are organized
the seminar in nov.2015 I want to know that can I give my paper and
presentation in Hindi Language. Pl inform me so that I can participate in
this seminar to send my abstract to you.

with good wishes,

Thanking you,

Yours Faithfully,

Dr. T. J. Rekha Rani,
Head, Department of Hindi.
The English and Foreign Languges University,
Taranaka,
Hyderabad,
India - 500007


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From wujastyk at gmail.com  Mon Nov  3 14:21:25 2014
From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 14 15:21:25 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Sanskrit scans database
In-Reply-To: <4B4DA848863D48EBA489DABA51DA2D1F@OliverHP>
Message-ID: <CAKdt-CcYwuMAa40V68GGiAQOebfDyXXRAHgQu5=GwaDG5+rsOA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Oliver,

This is an extraordinary resource, and a testament to the many hours you
have personally put into reading, understanding and analyzing these printed
texts.  Thank you!

Dominik


On 2 November 2014 19:39, <hellwig7 at gmx.de> wrote:

>   Dear list,
>
> a new resource for searching - partly undigitized - Sanskrit books is
> available at
> http://www.sanskrit-linguistics.org/sanskrit-scans/query.php
>
> The website gives you access to a database of Sanskrit books that have
> been digitized WITHOUT manual correction. This is the very first release,
> and I'm planning to increase the database with scanned texts that are
> freely available in the web.
> To search the database, enter a word in simplified Harvard-Kyoto in the
> search field (e.g., narmada or sarasvati*), and press the button 'Search'.
> Enter does not work at the moment. More details about the input conventions
> are available when you press the help button on the website. The rest of
> the website should be self explanatory.
>
>
> Best wishes, Oliver
>
> ---
> PD Dr. Oliver Hellwig
> SFB 991, University of D?sseldorf
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
>


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From shrivara at gmail.com  Mon Nov  3 14:41:45 2014
From: shrivara at gmail.com (shrinivasa varakhedi)
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 14 20:11:45 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Sanskrit scans database
In-Reply-To: <4B4DA848863D48EBA489DABA51DA2D1F@OliverHP>
Message-ID: <86867B4C-B12B-4CDF-8142-538E0A96F9A9@gmail.com>

Dear Dr. Oliver Hellwig,

Excellent resource!!! This resource created by you is a great support to the world of linguists. Thank you so much. 

Can you please give an exhaustive list of works you are planning to add, so that others can avoid duplication or can share resources they got. 

With best regards

Shrinivasa Varakhedi
Vice Chancellor i/c
Professor and Dean 
Karnataka Sanskrit University 
Bangalore 18 

09483501353
08026794258 

> On Nov 3, 2014, at 0:09, <hellwig7 at gmx.de> wrote:
> 
> Dear list,
>  
> a new resource for searching - partly undigitized - Sanskrit books is available at
> http://www.sanskrit-linguistics.org/sanskrit-scans/query.php
>  
> The website gives you access to a database of Sanskrit books that have been digitized WITHOUT manual correction. This is the very first release, and I'm planning to increase the database with scanned texts that are freely available in the web.
> To search the database, enter a word in simplified Harvard-Kyoto in the search field (e.g., narmada or sarasvati*), and press the button 'Search'. Enter does not work at the moment. More details about the input conventions are available when you press the help button on the website. The rest of the website should be self explanatory.
>  
>  
> Best wishes, Oliver
>  
> ---
> PD Dr. Oliver Hellwig
> SFB 991, University of D?sseldorf
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info


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From drdj at austin.utexas.edu  Mon Nov  3 19:58:06 2014
From: drdj at austin.utexas.edu (Donald R Davis)
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 14 19:58:06 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Childhood and Children in Ancient India
Message-ID: <bfb544237ece4f72b7aad0cadc9df42a@BY2PR06MB188.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Dear colleagues,

I would be grateful for further recommendations of secondary studies pertaining to childhood and children in ancient India, especially those with a historical, epigraphical, or literary focus.  I am aware of the studies below that touch on some aspects of children?s lives and training. The literature on sons specifically is easier to find, but it clusters around the ideal twelve-sons categorization in Dharmasastra.  I?m looking for studies outside of Dharmasastra, if possible.  SARDS-3 was helpful.  Is there nothing more like Phillipe Aries?s Centuries of Childhood, for those of you who may know it?  Any leads would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Don Davis
Dept of Asian Studies
University of Texas at Austin


Granoff, Phyllis. ?Fathers and Sons: Some Remarks on the Ordination of Children in the Medieval ?vet?mbara Monastic Community?
Kakar, Sudhir. The Inner World
Katre, S. M. ?On some words for 'child' in Indo-Aryan?
Meyer, J.J. Sexual Life in Ancient India
Rocher, Ludo. ?The Status of Minors in Classical Hindu Law?
Scharfe, Hartmut. Education in Ancient India
Schopen, Gregory, ?The Urban Buddhist Nun and a Protective Rite for Children in Early North India?
Silk, Jonathan A. ?Child abandonment and homes for unwed mothers in ancient India: Buddhist sources?
Verpoorten, Jean-Marie. ?L'enfant dans la litt?rature rituelle v?dique (br?hma?a)?


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From pahitatta at gmail.com  Mon Nov  3 20:20:53 2014
From: pahitatta at gmail.com (Ales Petrocchi)
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 14 20:20:53 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Childhood and Children in Ancient India
In-Reply-To: <bfb544237ece4f72b7aad0cadc9df42a@BY2PR06MB188.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAFWPYfioyXcniiNW_aeBLiegjWVc6MF8-XT5x+jeu45AM2_yqg@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Donald,
it may be not exactly what you mean but you can find interesting
information in few jyoti?a-texts dealing with HIndu rituals and children
and
in the B?latantra by Kaly??a (approx 16th c. CE), or in other ayurvedic
texts.

Also, I would suggest you to look at the M?nasoll?sa.

Yours,
Ales.


On 3 November 2014 19:58, Donald R Davis <drdj at austin.utexas.edu> wrote:

>  Dear colleagues,
>
>
>
> I would be grateful for further recommendations of secondary studies
> pertaining to childhood and children in ancient India, especially those
> with a historical, epigraphical, or literary focus.  I am aware of the
> studies below that touch on some aspects of children?s lives and training.
> The literature on sons specifically is easier to find, but it clusters
> around the ideal twelve-sons categorization in Dharmasastra.  I?m looking
> for studies outside of Dharmasastra, if possible.  SARDS-3 was helpful.  Is
> there nothing more like Phillipe Aries?s Centuries of Childhood, for those
> of you who may know it?  Any leads would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Don Davis
>
> Dept of Asian Studies
>
> University of Texas at Austin
>
>
>
>
>
> Granoff, Phyllis. ?Fathers and Sons: Some Remarks on the Ordination of
> Children in the Medieval ?vet?mbara Monastic Community?
>
> Kakar, Sudhir. The Inner World
>
> Katre, S. M. ?On some words for 'child' in Indo-Aryan?
>
> Meyer, J.J. Sexual Life in Ancient India
>
> Rocher, Ludo. ?The Status of Minors in Classical Hindu Law?
>
> Scharfe, Hartmut. Education in Ancient India
>
> Schopen, Gregory, ?The Urban Buddhist Nun and a Protective Rite for
> Children in Early North India?
>
> Silk, Jonathan A. ?Child abandonment and homes for unwed mothers in
> ancient India: Buddhist sources?
>
> Verpoorten, Jean-Marie. ?L'enfant dans la litt?rature rituelle v?dique
> (br?hma?a)?
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
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From hellwig7 at gmx.de  Mon Nov  3 21:15:15 2014
From: hellwig7 at gmx.de (hellwig7 at gmx.de)
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 14 22:15:15 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Sanskrit scans database
In-Reply-To: <86867B4C-B12B-4CDF-8142-538E0A96F9A9@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <786CAF879FE2424F92A8FCA265B5DDD8@OliverHP>

Dear Prof. Varakhedi,

thanks for your positive feedback, great to hear it?s useful.

Concerning the next digitizations, I am planning to work my way through the scans found at
http://www.sanskritebooks.org/

The most time consuming part is transforming the pdfs back into image files. Therefore, it may take some time to process these data.

In case you or other members of the list are interested, we may consider feeding other scanned books into the database. What I need for this are scanned images of single pages (grey, binary) in decent quality; the height of a single a should be 30-50 pixels in this case.

Best wishes, Oliver

---
PD Dr. Oliver Hellwig
SFB 991, University of D?sseldorf

From: shrinivasa varakhedi 
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 3:41 PM
To: mailto:hellwig7 at gmx.de 
Cc: mailto:INDOLOGY at list.indology.info 
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Sanskrit scans database

Dear Dr. Oliver Hellwig,

Excellent resource!!! This resource created by you is a great support to the world of linguists. Thank you so much. 

Can you please give an exhaustive list of works you are planning to add, so that others can avoid duplication or can share resources they got. 

With best regards

Shrinivasa Varakhedi 
Vice Chancellor i/c
Professor and Dean 
Karnataka Sanskrit University 
Bangalore 18 

09483501353
08026794258 

On Nov 3, 2014, at 0:09, <hellwig7 at gmx.de> wrote:


  Dear list,

  a new resource for searching - partly undigitized - Sanskrit books is available at
  http://www.sanskrit-linguistics.org/sanskrit-scans/query.php

  The website gives you access to a database of Sanskrit books that have been digitized WITHOUT manual correction. This is the very first release, and I'm planning to increase the database with scanned texts that are freely available in the web.
  To search the database, enter a word in simplified Harvard-Kyoto in the search field (e.g., narmada or sarasvati*), and press the button 'Search'. Enter does not work at the moment. More details about the input conventions are available when you press the help button on the website. The rest of the website should be self explanatory.


  Best wishes, Oliver

  ---
  PD Dr. Oliver Hellwig
  SFB 991, University of D?sseldorf
  _______________________________________________
  INDOLOGY mailing list
  INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
  http://listinfo.indology.info


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From christellebarois at wanadoo.fr  Mon Nov  3 21:36:20 2014
From: christellebarois at wanadoo.fr (=?utf-8?Q?Christ=C3=A8le_Barois?=)
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 14 22:36:20 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Childhood and Children in Ancient India
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Dear Don Davis,
You might be interested in Danielle Feller's paper : Epic Heroes Have No Childhood:
A survey of Childhood Descriptions in the Sanskrit Epics, the Mah?bh?rata
and the R?m?ya?a ?
With best wishes,
Christ?le Barois 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Donald R Davis 
  To: Indology 
  Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 8:58 PM
  Subject: [INDOLOGY] Childhood and Children in Ancient India


  Dear colleagues,



  I would be grateful for further recommendations of secondary studies pertaining to childhood and children in ancient India, especially those with a historical, epigraphical, or literary focus.  I am aware of the studies below that touch on some aspects of children?s lives and training. The literature on sons specifically is easier to find, but it clusters around the ideal twelve-sons categorization in Dharmasastra.  I?m looking for studies outside of Dharmasastra, if possible.  SARDS-3 was helpful.  Is there nothing more like Phillipe Aries?s Centuries of Childhood, for those of you who may know it?  Any leads would be appreciated.



  Thanks,



  Don Davis

  Dept of Asian Studies

  University of Texas at Austin





  Granoff, Phyllis. ?Fathers and Sons: Some Remarks on the Ordination of Children in the Medieval ?vet?mbara Monastic Community?

  Kakar, Sudhir. The Inner World

  Katre, S. M. ?On some words for 'child' in Indo-Aryan?

  Meyer, J.J. Sexual Life in Ancient India

  Rocher, Ludo. ?The Status of Minors in Classical Hindu Law?

  Scharfe, Hartmut. Education in Ancient India

  Schopen, Gregory, ?The Urban Buddhist Nun and a Protective Rite for Children in Early North India?

  Silk, Jonathan A. ?Child abandonment and homes for unwed mothers in ancient India: Buddhist sources?

  Verpoorten, Jean-Marie. ?L'enfant dans la litt?rature rituelle v?dique (br?hma?a)?



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From mkapstei at uchicago.edu  Mon Nov  3 21:43:57 2014
From: mkapstei at uchicago.edu (Matthew Kapstein)
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 14 21:43:57 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Sanskrit scans database
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Dear Oliver,

Congralutions on the development of this remarkable new research tool.

I hope that the scope your innovative work will continue to flourish.

best regards,
Matthew

Matthew Kapstein
Directeur d'?tudes,
Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes

Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies,
The University of Chicago

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From hr at ivs.edu  Tue Nov  4 00:52:50 2014
From: hr at ivs.edu (Howard Resnick)
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 14 19:52:50 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Childhood and Children in Ancient India
In-Reply-To: <83E6C03824A84C809F5937D79109CD15@PCdeChristle>
Message-ID: <1415062382-5627233.73691233.fsA40qocp029795@rs143.luxsci.com>

Thank you for this valuable reference. Here is the online paper:

http://www.indologica.com/volumes/vol38/vol38-art03-DANIELLE-FELLER.pdf <http://www.indologica.com/volumes/vol38/vol38-art03-DANIELLE-FELLER.pdf>

Best wishes,
Howard

> On Nov 3, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Christ?le Barois <christellebarois at wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> 
> Dear Don Davis,
> You might be interested in Danielle Feller's paper : Epic Heroes Have No Childhood:
> A survey of Childhood Descriptions in the Sanskrit Epics, the Mah?bh?rata
> and the R?m?ya?a ?
> With best wishes,
> Christ?le Barois 
>  
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: Donald R Davis <mailto:drdj at austin.utexas.edu>
>> To: Indology <mailto:indology at list.indology.info>
>> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 8:58 PM
>> Subject: [INDOLOGY] Childhood and Children in Ancient India
>> 
>> Dear colleagues,
>> I would be grateful for further recommendations of secondary studies pertaining to childhood and children in ancient India, especially those with a historical, epigraphical, or literary focus.  I am aware of the studies below that touch on some aspects of children?s lives and training. The literature on sons specifically is easier to find, but it clusters around the ideal twelve-sons categorization in Dharmasastra.  I?m looking for studies outside of Dharmasastra, if possible.  SARDS-3 was helpful.  Is there nothing more like Phillipe Aries?s Centuries of Childhood, for those of you who may know it?  Any leads would be appreciated.
>> Thanks,
>> Don Davis
>> Dept of Asian Studies
>> University of Texas at Austin
>> Granoff, Phyllis. ?Fathers and Sons: Some Remarks on the Ordination of Children in the Medieval ?vet?mbara Monastic Community?
>> Kakar, Sudhir. The Inner World
>> Katre, S. M. ?On some words for 'child' in Indo-Aryan?
>> Meyer, J.J. Sexual Life in Ancient India
>> Rocher, Ludo. ?The Status of Minors in Classical Hindu Law?
>> Scharfe, Hartmut. Education in Ancient India
>> Schopen, Gregory, ?The Urban Buddhist Nun and a Protective Rite for Children in Early North India?
>> Silk, Jonathan A. ?Child abandonment and homes for unwed mothers in ancient India: Buddhist sources?
>> Verpoorten, Jean-Marie. ?L'enfant dans la litt?rature rituelle v?dique (br?hma?a)?
>> 
>> 
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From hr at ivs.edu  Tue Nov  4 01:20:06 2014
From: hr at ivs.edu (Howard Resnick)
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 14 20:20:06 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Childhood and Children in Ancient India
In-Reply-To: <83E6C03824A84C809F5937D79109CD15@PCdeChristle>
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By the way, would the elaborate, positive description of Krishna?s childhood in Bhagavata Purana and Hari-vamsa be an exception to this thesis?

> On Nov 3, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Christ?le Barois <christellebarois at wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> 
> Dear Don Davis,
> You might be interested in Danielle Feller's paper : Epic Heroes Have No Childhood:
> A survey of Childhood Descriptions in the Sanskrit Epics, the Mah?bh?rata
> and the R?m?ya?a ?
> With best wishes,
> Christ?le Barois 
>  
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: Donald R Davis <mailto:drdj at austin.utexas.edu>
>> To: Indology <mailto:indology at list.indology.info>
>> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 8:58 PM
>> Subject: [INDOLOGY] Childhood and Children in Ancient India
>> 
>> Dear colleagues,
>> I would be grateful for further recommendations of secondary studies pertaining to childhood and children in ancient India, especially those with a historical, epigraphical, or literary focus.  I am aware of the studies below that touch on some aspects of children?s lives and training. The literature on sons specifically is easier to find, but it clusters around the ideal twelve-sons categorization in Dharmasastra.  I?m looking for studies outside of Dharmasastra, if possible.  SARDS-3 was helpful.  Is there nothing more like Phillipe Aries?s Centuries of Childhood, for those of you who may know it?  Any leads would be appreciated.
>> Thanks,
>> Don Davis
>> Dept of Asian Studies
>> University of Texas at Austin
>> Granoff, Phyllis. ?Fathers and Sons: Some Remarks on the Ordination of Children in the Medieval ?vet?mbara Monastic Community?
>> Kakar, Sudhir. The Inner World
>> Katre, S. M. ?On some words for 'child' in Indo-Aryan?
>> Meyer, J.J. Sexual Life in Ancient India
>> Rocher, Ludo. ?The Status of Minors in Classical Hindu Law?
>> Scharfe, Hartmut. Education in Ancient India
>> Schopen, Gregory, ?The Urban Buddhist Nun and a Protective Rite for Children in Early North India?
>> Silk, Jonathan A. ?Child abandonment and homes for unwed mothers in ancient India: Buddhist sources?
>> Verpoorten, Jean-Marie. ?L'enfant dans la litt?rature rituelle v?dique (br?hma?a)?
>> 
>> 
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From palaniappa at aol.com  Tue Nov  4 01:46:55 2014
From: palaniappa at aol.com (palaniappa at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 14 20:46:55 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Childhood and Children in Ancient India
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Please see http://www.amazon.com/Extraordinary-Child-Devotional-Library-Translations/dp/0824810635 and http://www.amazon.com/Yasodas-Songs-Her-Playful-Krsna/dp/0983447217


Of course, we have several Classical Tamil poems talking about children. For an example see http://www.poetrynook.com/poem/children-30


We have the didactic work, the Tirukku?a?.61-70, that also deals with children. 


Regards,
Palaniappan 



-----Original Message-----
From: Donald R Davis <drdj at austin.utexas.edu>
To: Indology <indology at list.indology.info>
Sent: Mon, Nov 3, 2014 1:58 pm
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Childhood and Children in Ancient India



Dear colleagues,
 
I would be grateful for further recommendations of secondary studies pertaining to childhood and children in ancient India, especially those with a historical, epigraphical, or literary focus.  I am aware of the studies below that touch on some aspects of children?s lives and training. The literature on sons specifically is easier to find, but it clusters around the ideal twelve-sons categorization in Dharmasastra.  I?m looking for studies outside of Dharmasastra, if possible.  SARDS-3 was helpful.  Is there nothing more like Phillipe Aries?s Centuries of Childhood, for those of you who may know it?  Any leads would be appreciated.
 
Thanks,
 
Don Davis
Dept of Asian Studies
University of Texas at Austin
 
 
Granoff, Phyllis. ?Fathers and Sons: Some Remarks on the Ordination of Children in the Medieval ?vet?mbara Monastic Community?
Kakar, Sudhir. The Inner World
Katre, S. M. ?On some words for 'child' in Indo-Aryan?
Meyer, J.J. Sexual Life in Ancient India
Rocher, Ludo. ?The Status of Minors in Classical Hindu Law?
Scharfe, Hartmut. Education in Ancient India
Schopen, Gregory, ?The Urban Buddhist Nun and a Protective Rite for Children in Early North India?
Silk, Jonathan A. ?Child abandonment and homes for unwed mothers in ancient India: Buddhist sources?
Verpoorten, Jean-Marie. ?L'enfant dans la litt?rature rituelle v?dique (br?hma?a)?


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From drdhaval2785 at gmail.com  Tue Nov  4 04:28:43 2014
From: drdhaval2785 at gmail.com (dhaval patel)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 14 09:58:43 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Sanskrit scans database
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Dear Dr Hellwig,
Regarding the issue of extracting JPEG / PNG / TIFF pages of good quality
from PDF, you may have tried Irfanview.
If not, it is worth trying.
For benefit of all scholars I am reproducing the s

Steps:
1. Go to http://www.irfanview.com/
2. Click on Download Irfanview.
3. Follow the instruction for installation.
4. Go once again to http://www.irfanview.com/
5. Click on Download Plugins / addons
6. Follow the instruction for installation.
7. Go to http://downloads.ghostscript.com/public/
8. Select the latest version of ghostscript suitable for your system. For
me gs915w32.exe <http://downloads.ghostscript.com/public/gs915w32.exe>
worked well.
9. Follow the instruction for installation.
10. After installation of these three applications, launch irfanview.
11. Click on File->Open
12. In files of type -> select *.* (display all files)
13. Browse to your PDF and open it.
14. Go to Options -> Multiple images -> Extract all pages.
15. In  'Save as' set the destination file type (JPEG/PNG/TIFF..... there
are many more)
15. Set the destination folder to store images.
16. Click OK.
This will extract single pages of JPEG / PNG / TIFF files from PDF.

Hope this helps in your endeavours.



On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 3:13 AM, Matthew Kapstein <mkapstei at uchicago.edu>
wrote:

>
> Dear Oliver,
>
> Congralutions on the development of this remarkable new research tool.
>
> I hope that the scope your innovative work will continue to flourish.
>
> best regards,
> Matthew
>
> Matthew Kapstein
> Directeur d'?tudes,
> Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes
>
> Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies,
> The University of Chicago
>
> ________________________________________
>
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From wujastyk at gmail.com  Tue Nov  4 08:46:59 2014
From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 14 09:46:59 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Childhood and Children in Ancient India
In-Reply-To: <bfb544237ece4f72b7aad0cadc9df42a@BY2PR06MB188.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAKdt-CfcsrY_N_Hxvt+Tb4DDNh1BLo_jEya4EoBy9d37ubSM3g@mail.gmail.com>

this topic has come up before.  A keyword search of the INDOLOGY archive,
link at indology.info, will give the earlier recommendations.
Best,
Dominik

On 3 November 2014 20:58, Donald R Davis <drdj at austin.utexas.edu> wrote:

>  Dear colleagues,
>
>
>
> I would be grateful for further recommendations of secondary studies
> pertaining to childhood and children in ancient India, especially those
> with a historical, epigraphical, or literary focus.  I am aware of the
> studies below that touch on some aspects of children?s lives and training.
> The literature on sons specifically is easier to find, but it clusters
> around the ideal twelve-sons categorization in Dharmasastra.  I?m looking
> for studies outside of Dharmasastra, if possible.  SARDS-3 was helpful.  Is
> there nothing more like Phillipe Aries?s Centuries of Childhood, for those
> of you who may know it?  Any leads would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Don Davis
>
> Dept of Asian Studies
>
> University of Texas at Austin
>
>
>
>
>
> Granoff, Phyllis. ?Fathers and Sons: Some Remarks on the Ordination of
> Children in the Medieval ?vet?mbara Monastic Community?
>
> Kakar, Sudhir. The Inner World
>
> Katre, S. M. ?On some words for 'child' in Indo-Aryan?
>
> Meyer, J.J. Sexual Life in Ancient India
>
> Rocher, Ludo. ?The Status of Minors in Classical Hindu Law?
>
> Scharfe, Hartmut. Education in Ancient India
>
> Schopen, Gregory, ?The Urban Buddhist Nun and a Protective Rite for
> Children in Early North India?
>
> Silk, Jonathan A. ?Child abandonment and homes for unwed mothers in
> ancient India: Buddhist sources?
>
> Verpoorten, Jean-Marie. ?L'enfant dans la litt?rature rituelle v?dique
> (br?hma?a)?
>
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From drdj at austin.utexas.edu  Tue Nov  4 14:38:16 2014
From: drdj at austin.utexas.edu (Donald R Davis)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 14 14:38:16 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Childhood and Children in Ancient India
In-Reply-To: <CAKdt-CfcsrY_N_Hxvt+Tb4DDNh1BLo_jEya4EoBy9d37ubSM3g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55101ba73a884bfd9b533fc8422d90a7@BY2PR06MB188.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Thanks to everyone for excellent recommendations for this topic.  The earlier thread was also very helpful.  My first impression is that the topic is fairly well addressed within Buddhist Studies but that other Indological areas rich in primary sources have only begun to put the various pieces together.  I greatly appreciate your help.

Best regards,

Don Davis

From: Dominik Wujastyk [mailto:wujastyk at gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 2:47 AM
To: Donald R Davis
Cc: Indology
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Childhood and Children in Ancient India

this topic has come up before.  A keyword search of the INDOLOGY archive, link at indology.info<http://indology.info>, will give the earlier recommendations.
Best,
Dominik

On 3 November 2014 20:58, Donald R Davis <drdj at austin.utexas.edu<mailto:drdj at austin.utexas.edu>> wrote:
Dear colleagues,

I would be grateful for further recommendations of secondary studies pertaining to childhood and children in ancient India, especially those with a historical, epigraphical, or literary focus.  I am aware of the studies below that touch on some aspects of children?s lives and training. The literature on sons specifically is easier to find, but it clusters around the ideal twelve-sons categorization in Dharmasastra.  I?m looking for studies outside of Dharmasastra, if possible.  SARDS-3 was helpful.  Is there nothing more like Phillipe Aries?s Centuries of Childhood, for those of you who may know it?  Any leads would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Don Davis
Dept of Asian Studies
University of Texas at Austin


Granoff, Phyllis. ?Fathers and Sons: Some Remarks on the Ordination of Children in the Medieval ?vet?mbara Monastic Community?
Kakar, Sudhir. The Inner World
Katre, S. M. ?On some words for 'child' in Indo-Aryan?
Meyer, J.J. Sexual Life in Ancient India
Rocher, Ludo. ?The Status of Minors in Classical Hindu Law?
Scharfe, Hartmut. Education in Ancient India
Schopen, Gregory, ?The Urban Buddhist Nun and a Protective Rite for Children in Early North India?
Silk, Jonathan A. ?Child abandonment and homes for unwed mothers in ancient India: Buddhist sources?
Verpoorten, Jean-Marie. ?L'enfant dans la litt?rature rituelle v?dique (br?hma?a)?

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From alanus1216 at yahoo.com  Thu Nov  6 03:03:23 2014
From: alanus1216 at yahoo.com (Allen Thrasher)
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 14 19:03:23 -0800
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Childhood and Children in Ancient India
In-Reply-To: <bfb544237ece4f72b7aad0cadc9df42a@BY2PR06MB188.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1415243003.98848.YahooMailNeo@web163001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

In addition to the Balatantra mentioned by Ales., one might look at the Kumaratantra attributed to Ravana, translated by Filliozat as Etude de demonologie indienne, which deals with childhood diseases and the demons to which they are attributed, classified by age (as I seem to recall, from birth to age 16).

Allen 


On Monday, November 3, 2014 2:58 PM, Donald R Davis <drdj at austin.utexas.edu> wrote:
  


 
Dear colleagues, 
  
I would be grateful for further recommendations of secondary studies pertaining to childhood and children in ancient India, especially those with a historical, epigraphical, or literary focus.  I am aware of the studies below that touch on some aspects of children?s lives and training. The literature on sons specifically is easier to find, but it clusters around the ideal twelve-sons categorization in Dharmasastra.  I?m looking for studies outside of Dharmasastra, if possible.  SARDS-3 was helpful.  Is there nothing more like Phillipe Aries?s Centuries of Childhood, for those of you who may know it?  Any leads would be appreciated. 
  
Thanks, 
  
Don Davis 
Dept of Asian Studies 
University of Texas at Austin 
  
  
Granoff, Phyllis. ?Fathers and Sons: Some Remarks on the Ordination of Children in the Medieval ?vet?mbara Monastic Community? 
Kakar, Sudhir. The Inner World 
Katre, S. M. ?On some words for 'child' in Indo-Aryan? 
Meyer, J.J. Sexual Life in Ancient India 
Rocher, Ludo. ?The Status of Minors in Classical Hindu Law? 
Scharfe, Hartmut. Education in Ancient India 
Schopen, Gregory, ?The Urban Buddhist Nun and a Protective Rite for Children in Early North India? 
Silk, Jonathan A. ?Child abandonment and homes for unwed mothers in ancient India: Buddhist sources? 
Verpoorten, Jean-Marie. ?L'enfant dans la litt?rature rituelle v?dique (br?hma?a)?   
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From Joseph.Walser at tufts.edu  Thu Nov  6 03:12:55 2014
From: Joseph.Walser at tufts.edu (Walser, Joseph)
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 14 03:12:55 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Childhood and Children in Ancient India
In-Reply-To: <1415243003.98848.YahooMailNeo@web163001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E5F571B94D36DB4AA048E0CF279CFC7062F8FEC4@SSVMEXDAG01MB01.tufts.ad.tufts.edu>

Just to add to the growing list, Amy Langenberg has published quite a number of things on children in the Mulasarvastivada and Mahasangika vinayas. She has several of her papers on her academia.edu site and is well worth reading.
-j



Joseph Walser

Associate Professor

Department of Religion

Tufts University

________________________________
From: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] on behalf of Allen Thrasher [alanus1216 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 10:03 PM
To: Donald R Davis; Indology
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Childhood and Children in Ancient India

In addition to the Balatantra mentioned by Ales., one might look at the Kumaratantra attributed to Ravana, translated by Filliozat as Etude de demonologie indienne, which deals with childhood diseases and the demons to which they are attributed, classified by age (as I seem to recall, from birth to age 16).

Allen


On Monday, November 3, 2014 2:58 PM, Donald R Davis <drdj at austin.utexas.edu> wrote:


Dear colleagues,

I would be grateful for further recommendations of secondary studies pertaining to childhood and children in ancient India, especially those with a historical, epigraphical, or literary focus.  I am aware of the studies below that touch on some aspects of children?s lives and training. The literature on sons specifically is easier to find, but it clusters around the ideal twelve-sons categorization in Dharmasastra.  I?m looking for studies outside of Dharmasastra, if possible.  SARDS-3 was helpful.  Is there nothing more like Phillipe Aries?s Centuries of Childhood, for those of you who may know it?  Any leads would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Don Davis
Dept of Asian Studies
University of Texas at Austin


Granoff, Phyllis. ?Fathers and Sons: Some Remarks on the Ordination of Children in the Medieval ?vet?mbara Monastic Community?
Kakar, Sudhir. The Inner World
Katre, S. M. ?On some words for 'child' in Indo-Aryan?
Meyer, J.J. Sexual Life in Ancient India
Rocher, Ludo. ?The Status of Minors in Classical Hindu Law?
Scharfe, Hartmut. Education in Ancient India
Schopen, Gregory, ?The Urban Buddhist Nun and a Protective Rite for Children in Early North India?
Silk, Jonathan A. ?Child abandonment and homes for unwed mothers in ancient India: Buddhist sources?
Verpoorten, Jean-Marie. ?L'enfant dans la litt?rature rituelle v?dique (br?hma?a)?

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From vglyssenko at yandex.ru  Thu Nov  6 10:25:41 2014
From: vglyssenko at yandex.ru (Viktoria Lysenko)
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 14 13:25:41 +0300
Subject: [INDOLOGY] The Buddhist Philosophy of Thought: Essays in	Interpretation by Alexander Piatigorsky
Message-ID: <2312091415269541@web6j.yandex.ru>


Dear members of the list,
I  need a scan or pdf of the  book The Buddhist Philosophy of Thought: Essays in Interpretation by Alexander Piatigorsky.
 I am preparing a book of his early buddhological papers in Russian and I have to write an introduction with the account of his later works in English.
Warm regards,
Victoria

-- 
Victoria Lysenko, dr.hab.philos.
Head, Department for Oriental philosophy studies
Institute of Philosophy, Russian Academy of Sciences
Moscow, Volkhonka, 14
Professor, Russian State University for Humanities
Russia





From bill.m.mak at gmail.com  Thu Nov  6 10:40:11 2014
From: bill.m.mak at gmail.com (Bill Mak)
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 14 19:40:11 +0900
Subject: [INDOLOGY] A Lecture by Professor K. Ramasubramanian of IIT Bombay	(24 Nov, 2014)
Message-ID: <F326864A-2364-4CA9-8923-7879E9175658@gmail.com>

A Lecture by Professor K. Ramasubramanian of ITT Bombay (Cell for Indian Science and Technology in Sanskrit) will be held as follows:

Title: The Art of Blending Mathematics with Poetry

Date: Monday, 24 November, 2014

Time: 16:30 - 18:00

Venue: Seminar Room 1, Institute for Research in Humanities, Kyoto University

The recent advances in the quantum field and string theory, as well as the resurgence of study in the history and philosophy of mathematics across different cultures without the age-old biases, has made us understand today that the ?muse of mathematics can be wooed in many different ways?. However, it is not so well known that the muse of mathematics can also be so well fused with poetry.

We know of excellent treatises that purely deal only with mathematics or astronomy. We also know of excellent k?vyas that have nothing to do with exact sciences. However, a beautiful amalagamation of the two is not something that be commonly seen notwith- standing the fact that most of the works in Indian astronomy or mathematics have been written in the form of metrical composition. They hardly have any poetic value that is worth mentioning. The art of blending the work on mathematics with a high poetic value is something that is remarkable, and Bh?skar?c?rya (b. 1114 ce) seems to have been exceedingly successful in fusing the two, as evident from his famous works L?l?vat?, B?jaga?ita and Siddh?nta?iroma?i.

This year being the 900th anniversary of Bh?skar?c?rya, in this talk we would like to highlight how Bh?skara in his works makes a beautiful blend of poetry with geometry, arithmetic and algebra. No wonder then, this fine blending has made his works so popular that they are still used in the traditional schools and colleges (p??ha??l?s) to introduce mathematics.

Professor K. Ramasubramanian holds a doctorate in Theoretical Physics from University of Madras and a Masters in Sanskrit from Sri Venkateswara University, Tirupati. Co-author of Tantrasa?graha of N?laka??ha Somay?j? (Springer, 2011) and recipient of number of honorary titles and awards, including the Maharshi Badarayan Vyas Samman award from the President of India (2008) and the R. C. Gupta Endowment Lecture Award from the National Academy of Sciences India (2010). Professor Ramasubramanian was an executive council member of the International Union of History and Philosophy of Science (2013) and is presently a faculty member at ITT Bombay in the Cell for Indian Science and Technology in Sanskrit.



-- 
Dr. Bill M. Mak
Associate Professor

Institute for Research in Humanities, Kyoto University
Yoshidahonmachi, Sakyo-ku, Kyoto, Japan 606-8501
?606-8501 ??????????
???????????

email: mak at zinbun.kyoto-u.ac.jp
Tel:+81-75-753-6913
Fax:+81-75-753-6903

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From bill.m.mak at gmail.com  Thu Nov  6 10:43:10 2014
From: bill.m.mak at gmail.com (Bill Mak)
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 14 19:43:10 +0900
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Fwd: A Lecture by Professor K. Ramasubramanian of IIT	Bombay (24 Nov, 2014)
In-Reply-To: <F326864A-2364-4CA9-8923-7879E9175658@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8667AF93-DF87-49E6-AFF1-DC6080F733BD@gmail.com>

Dear Indology list,

Attached here please find the poster for the event.



Begin forwarded message:

> From: Bill Mak <bill.m.mak at gmail.com>
> Subject: A Lecture by Professor K. Ramasubramanian of IIT Bombay (24 Nov, 2014) 
> Date: 2014?11?6? 19:40:11 JST
> To: indology <indology at list.indology.info>
> 
> 
> A Lecture by Professor K. Ramasubramanian of ITT Bombay (Cell for Indian Science and Technology in Sanskrit) will be held as follows:
> 
> Title: The Art of Blending Mathematics with Poetry
> 
> Date: Monday, 24 November, 2014
> 
> Time: 16:30 - 18:00
> 
> Venue: Seminar Room 1, Institute for Research in Humanities, Kyoto University
> 
> The recent advances in the quantum field and string theory, as well as the resurgence of study in the history and philosophy of mathematics across different cultures without the age-old biases, has made us understand today that the ?muse of mathematics can be wooed in many different ways?. However, it is not so well known that the muse of mathematics can also be so well fused with poetry.
> 
> We know of excellent treatises that purely deal only with mathematics or astronomy. We also know of excellent k?vyas that have nothing to do with exact sciences. However, a beautiful amalagamation of the two is not something that be commonly seen notwith- standing the fact that most of the works in Indian astronomy or mathematics have been written in the form of metrical composition. They hardly have any poetic value that is worth mentioning. The art of blending the work on mathematics with a high poetic value is something that is remarkable, and Bh?skar?c?rya (b. 1114 ce) seems to have been exceedingly successful in fusing the two, as evident from his famous works L?l?vat?, B?jaga?ita and Siddh?nta?iroma?i.
> 
> This year being the 900th anniversary of Bh?skar?c?rya, in this talk we would like to highlight how Bh?skara in his works makes a beautiful blend of poetry with geometry, arithmetic and algebra. No wonder then, this fine blending has made his works so popular that they are still used in the traditional schools and colleges (p??ha??l?s) to introduce mathematics.
> 
> Professor K. Ramasubramanian holds a doctorate in Theoretical Physics from University of Madras and a Masters in Sanskrit from Sri Venkateswara University, Tirupati. Co-author of Tantrasa?graha of N?laka??ha Somay?j? (Springer, 2011) and recipient of number of honorary titles and awards, including the Maharshi Badarayan Vyas Samman award from the President of India (2008) and the R. C. Gupta Endowment Lecture Award from the National Academy of Sciences India (2010). Professor Ramasubramanian was an executive council member of the International Union of History and Philosophy of Science (2013) and is presently a faculty member at ITT Bombay in the Cell for Indian Science and Technology in Sanskrit.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Dr. Bill M. Mak
> Associate Professor
> 
> Institute for Research in Humanities, Kyoto University
> Yoshidahonmachi, Sakyo-ku, Kyoto, Japan 606-8501
> ?606-8501 ??????????
> ???????????
> 
> email: mak at zinbun.kyoto-u.ac.jp
> Tel:+81-75-753-6913
> Fax:+81-75-753-6903
> 
> copies of my publications may be found at:
> http://www.billmak.com
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From gruenen at sub.uni-goettingen.de  Thu Nov  6 17:32:43 2014
From: gruenen at sub.uni-goettingen.de (Gruenendahl, Reinhold)
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 14 17:32:43 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] GRETIL update #450
Message-ID: <044C4CE033BD474EBE2ACACE8E4B1D94A6656ABE@UM-excdag-a02.um.gwdg.de>


GRETIL is pleased to be able to report the following addition(s) to its collection:


Karatoyamahatmya (plain text / text with pada markers / pada index):
http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm#KaratoyaM


Majjhimanikaya (complete): PTS/Dhammakaya edition, annotated and plain text:
http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm#Majjhim



__________________________________________________________________________

"GRETIL is intended as a cumulative register of the numerous download sites for electronic texts in Indian languages." (from the 2001 "mission statement")

GRETIL - Goettingen Register of Electronic Texts in Indian Languages:

http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm





From dchakra at hotmail.de  Sat Nov  8 06:08:43 2014
From: dchakra at hotmail.de (Dr. Debabrata Chakrabarti)
Date: Sat, 08 Nov 14 11:38:43 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Sharada Tilak/Lakshman DeshikendraDe
Message-ID: <BAY179-W3823BD9BC6D56362CBD0E5D9820@phx.gbl>


Dear List Members,I singled out the following link to get a pdf out of it. I tried a lot, but without any success whatever. Could anyone help me get a pdf of Sharada Tilak, edited by Mukund Jha?Sharada Tilak:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/110862860/Sharada-Tilak-by-Lakshman-With-Padarthadarsha-Comm-Bu-Raghava-Bhatta-Edited-by-Mukund-Jha
RegardsDebabrata Chakrabarti

?This body
is like a musical instrument; what you hear depends upon how you play it.? ?
Anandamayi Ma 

?Inside
every human being there exists a special heaven, whole and unbroken.? -
Paracelsus





 		 	   		  


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From birendra176 at yahoo.com  Sat Nov  8 08:51:45 2014
From: birendra176 at yahoo.com (Birendra Nath Prasad)
Date: Sat, 08 Nov 14 00:51:45 -0800
Subject: [INDOLOGY] A query on Sunya Purana
Message-ID: <1415436705.50913.YahooMailBasic@web121906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Respected Colleagues ,
I am trying to find out a copy of Sunya Purnana .It was originally written in 10th-11th century Bengal. Later it witnessed a substantial interpolation in the   14th -15th century . If any of you has a scanned or PDF copy of both versions , kindly forward them to me.
Regards 
Birendra Nath Prasad 
Assistant Professor , History 
BB Ambedkar University 
Lucknow ,India.
birendra176 at yahoo.com 





From wujastyk at gmail.com  Sat Nov  8 09:50:29 2014
From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Sat, 08 Nov 14 10:50:29 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] A query on Sunya Purana
In-Reply-To: <1415436705.50913.YahooMailBasic@web121906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAKdt-Cd00X0RyR7-SFQD_Q8RtqqFWzb6811+=OHQM-J9N8E1sQ@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Prof. Prasad,

It is not clear to me what you are asking for.  If there are *printed*
editions of the ??nya Pur??a (P?r?ana?) then please give the
bibliographical details.  Or are you seeking *manuscripts*?  In which case,
have you consulted the most recently published volumes of the *New
Catalogus Catalogorum*?  Works beginning with "??nya-" are in volume 35,
which was published earlier this year.

Sincerely,
Dominik Wujastyk

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Department of South Asia, Tibetan and Buddhist Studies
<http://stb.univie.ac.at/>,
University of Vienna,
Spitalgasse 2-4, Courtyard 2, Entrance 2.1
1090 Vienna, Austria
and
Adjunct Professor,
Division of Health and Humanities,
St. John's Research Institute, <http://www.sjri.res.in/> Bangalore, India.
Home page <http://univie.academia.edu/DominikWujastyk> | HSSA
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From andra.kleb at gmail.com  Sat Nov  8 18:56:32 2014
From: andra.kleb at gmail.com (Andrey Klebanov)
Date: Sat, 08 Nov 14 19:56:32 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] prayogamukha
Message-ID: <81BD554E-3FD8-49ED-AD15-63D654C80BC7@googlemail.com>

Dear members of the list, 

being aware of how slim the chances for the success of my query actually are, I, nevertheless, would like to ask, if anyone of you may have a digital copy of this book:
http://www.worldcat.org/title/prayoga-pallavah-vararucikrta-prayogasangraha-tadvyakhyanabhuta-dharmakrttikrta-prayogamukha-paramesvarajhakrta-prayogadarpaneti-granthadvayatmakaparisistavibhusitah-visvesvaramisrakrta-prayogapallava-vyakhyopetah/oclc/311561933 <http://www.worldcat.org/title/prayoga-pallavah-vararucikrta-prayogasangraha-tadvyakhyanabhuta-dharmakrttikrta-prayogamukha-paramesvarajhakrta-prayogadarpaneti-granthadvayatmakaparisistavibhusitah-visvesvaramisrakrta-prayogapallava-vyakhyopetah/oclc/311561933>
or, in fact, of any other edition of the text known under various names as prayogamukha-[ma??ala/ ma??ana], prayogasa?graha, v?rarucasa?graha, k?rakacakra etc.

thank you very much in advance, 

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From mmdesh at umich.edu  Sun Nov  9 12:11:39 2014
From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande)
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 14 07:11:39 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] prayogamukha
In-Reply-To: <81BD554E-3FD8-49ED-AD15-63D654C80BC7@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <CAB3-dzckgcHf+DvFCrdaVdz+v7DC8oor4aNsBu72QkoeGyZZjA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Mr. Andrey Klevanov,

I have attached the pdf of V?rarucasa?graha published in the Trivandrum
Sanskrit Series.  If you receive digital versions of any of the other
editions, please forward them to me.  Thanks.

Madhav Deshpande

On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Andrey Klebanov <andra.kleb at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear members of the list,
>
> being aware of how slim the chances for the success of my query actually
> are, I, nevertheless, would like to ask, if anyone of you may have a
> digital copy of this book:
>
> http://www.worldcat.org/title/prayoga-pallavah-vararucikrta-prayogasangraha-tadvyakhyanabhuta-dharmakrttikrta-prayogamukha-paramesvarajhakrta-prayogadarpaneti-granthadvayatmakaparisistavibhusitah-visvesvaramisrakrta-prayogapallava-vyakhyopetah/oclc/311561933
> or, in fact, of any other edition of the text known under various names as
> prayogamukha-[ma??ala/ ma??ana], prayogasa?graha, v?rarucasa?graha,
> k?rakacakra etc.
>
> thank you very much in advance,
>
> Andrey Klebanov
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
The University of Michigan
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From jcgold at Princeton.EDU  Sun Nov  9 14:04:39 2014
From: jcgold at Princeton.EDU (Jonathan C. Gold)
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 14 14:04:39 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Job Posting: Lecturer in Sanskrit, Princeton University
Message-ID: <567970C4-E0D2-4355-AAC9-849011A57959@exchange.Princeton.edu>

Dear Colleagues:

Please share and post the following job posting:


SANSKRIT LECTURER, PRINCETON UNIVERSITY PROGRAM IN SOUTH ASIAN STUDIES

The Program in South Asian Studies at Princeton University is accepting applications for a full-time, three-year lecturer position in Sanskrit (with possibility of renewal) beginning September 1, 2015.  The successful applicant will be asked to teach a total of five courses over two semesters (including courses at the introductory, intermediate, and advanced levels) and to advise undergraduate and graduate research. Requisites include: a PhD in an appropriate field (by start); broad familiarity with Sanskrit literature; and demonstrated excellence in college-level language teaching. This position is subject to the University's background check policy.

Applications should include: (1) a cover letter explaining the candidate?s qualifications and teaching experience; (2) a current curriculum vitae; (3) sample course syllabi; (4) copies of teaching evaluations; and (5) three confidential letters of recommendation.

To apply, please link to https://jobs.princeton.edu position requisition number 1400801. Applications received by January 1, 2015 will receive fullest consideration.

Princeton University is an equal opportunity employer and all qualified applicants will receive consideration for employment without regard to race, color, religion, sex, national origin, disability status, protected veteran status, or any other characteristic protected by law.


Many thanks,

Jonathan C. Gold
Associate Professor
Department of Religion
Princeton University
1879 Hall, Washington Rd
Princeton, NJ 08544



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From hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com  Sun Nov  9 19:22:53 2014
From: hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com (Harry Spier)
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 14 14:22:53 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] What is a "Mana" ?
Message-ID: <CAPW7aQFyxdCJ2ATTrut7Tj-qMCky7aH6Jwuo_ryPiRm8BGABLg@mail.gmail.com>

Dear list members,

We have some old microfilm in our archives which is labelled as having been
taken some at Nedumpilli Mana, Taikkat Mana and Kavapramarth Mana.

I've found this website "Famous Manas in Kerala"
http://www.karmakerala.com/guide/famous-manas-in-kerala-guide.html

which lists Nedumpilli Mana amoung others but I'm still not clear what
exactly is meant by a "Mana".  Is it an extended family home?, the center
of a religious sect?, a religious school? or something else.

Apologies if this is an elementary question, any help would be appreciated.

Harry Spier
Manager, Muktabodha Digital Library


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From emstern at verizon.net  Sun Nov  9 19:42:50 2014
From: emstern at verizon.net (Elliot Stern)
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 14 14:42:50 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] What is a "Mana" ?
In-Reply-To: <CAPW7aQFyxdCJ2ATTrut7Tj-qMCky7aH6Jwuo_ryPiRm8BGABLg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1D9E7DD7-054E-4E42-83EE-ECD6597A6C12@verizon.net>

Generally, a mana is a Nambutiri brahman house.  According to http://malayalamenglishdictionary.com:
?? (mana)	
house, abode, house of a Malayali Brahmin, wife.




Elliot M. Stern
552 South 48th Street
Philadelphia, PA 19143-2029
United States of America
telephone: 215-747-6204
mobile: 267-240-8418
emstern at verizon.net

On 09 Nov  2014, at 14:22, Harry Spier <hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear list members,
> 
> We have some old microfilm in our archives which is labelled as having been taken some at Nedumpilli Mana, Taikkat Mana and Kavapramarth Mana.
> 
> I've found this website "Famous Manas in Kerala" 
> http://www.karmakerala.com/guide/famous-manas-in-kerala-guide.html
> 
> which lists Nedumpilli Mana amoung others but I'm still not clear what exactly is meant by a "Mana".  Is it an extended family home?, the center of a religious sect?, a religious school? or something else.
> 
> Apologies if this is an elementary question, any help would be appreciated.
> 
> Harry Spier
> Manager, Muktabodha Digital Library
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
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From wujastyk at gmail.com  Sun Nov  9 20:44:20 2014
From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 14 21:44:20 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Visuddhimagga
Message-ID: <CAKdt-CfzJ9VzQC2Ey2YDYeNRH5kG-3iE1Ndy60G4TLGWjoZjKA@mail.gmail.com>

The Visuddhimagga was edited and then published twice in Roman script in
the first half of the 20th century.  By Caroline A. F. Rhys Davids for the
PTS, published 1920 & 1921, and by Henry Clarke Warren for HOS,
posthumously published in 1950.  Neither edition refers to the other.

Did Warren not know about Caroline Rhys Davids' work?  Warren met him in
Oxford in 1884, as Lanman's *Memorial* notes, and was greatly influenced by
him.  Warren's work was done long  before that of Caroline Rhys Davids,
since Warren died in 1899.  But why wouldn't Dharmananda Kosambi have
mentioned Caroline RD's edition in his 1927 preface to Warren's?  It's
understandable that Warren's brother Edward wouldn't have known about
Caroline RD's edition, when he wrote his pathetic Foreword in 1927, since
he was not an indologist.  Why did Warren's edition take 23 years to be
printed, even after Kosambi had finished his editing of the MS?  1950 looks
like five years after the war, which is understandable.  But that doesn't
explain the twelve years of inaction before the war (and after the
editing).  Since Warren had paid for the HOS to exist, one would have
thought some priority might have been given to publishing his work.

And why didn't Caroline RD mention Warren's work?  Warren had used one of
her husband's manuscripts of the VM, so there would surely have been some
awareness of Warren's work.  And Thomas Rhys Davids was alive until the end
of 1922, and was aware of his wife's work on the VM, since she gave him
some pages for checking, some time before the end of 1920 (mentioned in her
foreword).  Caroline RD also knew that Warren had published an subject
analysis of the VM in the JPTS in 1892, but appears not to know his article
"Buddhaghosa's VM" of the same year, or his "Report of Progress" on his
work on the VM, published in 1894.   She mentions Warren in her afterword
on p. 767, but only as the author of Buddh. in Tr. (1896), which
incidentally contains a 50 passages  translated from the VM.

Has someone worked out all these matters?  I would have expected ?anamoli
to say something about this in his translation, but he doesn't.  He just
says he's using both editions.  Perhaps there are book reviews from the
later 1920s or 1950s that explain matters, I haven't looked yet.

Has anyone systematically compared the two editions for variants?  Caroline
RD's edition is a reproduction of four earlier printed editions, two from
Rangoon, two from Ceylon; Warren worked from MSS, two Burmese and two from
Ceylon.  One of Warrens' MSS came from the India Office and one from T RD's
private collection, as mentioned, so it must have been known in England,
and to T RD, that he was working on this text.

Best,
Dominik


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From wujastyk at gmail.com  Sun Nov  9 20:59:12 2014
From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 14 21:59:12 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] prayogamukha
In-Reply-To: <81BD554E-3FD8-49ED-AD15-63D654C80BC7@googlemail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKdt-Cd6VYgHsEqhLX797smYykF7Zq6E2nrXPZndvd_ycgfmrw@mail.gmail.com>

The Trivandrum Sanskrit Series has been digitized and uploaded to The
Archive:

   - https://archive.org/details/Trivandrum_Sanskrit_Series_TSS

A few vols. are missing, but not the Vararucasangraha
<https://ia601602.us.archive.org/20/items/Trivandrum_Sanskrit_Series_TSS/TSS-033_Vararuchasangraha__with_the_commentary_of_Dipaprabha_of_Narayana_-_TG_Sastri.pdf>
.


The Anandashrama SS
<https://archive.org/details/Anandashram_Samskrita_Granthavali_Anandashram_Sanskrit_Series>
is also at The Archive.

Best,

Dominik

On 8 November 2014 19:56, Andrey Klebanov <andra.kleb at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear members of the list,
>
> being aware of how slim the chances for the success of my query actually
> are, I, nevertheless, would like to ask, if anyone of you may have a
> digital copy of this book:
>
> http://www.worldcat.org/title/prayoga-pallavah-vararucikrta-prayogasangraha-tadvyakhyanabhuta-dharmakrttikrta-prayogamukha-paramesvarajhakrta-prayogadarpaneti-granthadvayatmakaparisistavibhusitah-visvesvaramisrakrta-prayogapallava-vyakhyopetah/oclc/311561933
> or, in fact, of any other edition of the text known under various names as
> prayogamukha-[ma??ala/ ma??ana], prayogasa?graha, v?rarucasa?graha,
> k?rakacakra etc.
>
> thank you very much in advance,
>
> Andrey Klebanov
>
>
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From fmgerety at fas.harvard.edu  Sun Nov  9 21:45:41 2014
From: fmgerety at fas.harvard.edu (Moore Gerety, Finnian)
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 14 21:45:41 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] INDOLOGY Digest, Vol 22, Issue 8
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1243.1415566068.8343.indology_list.indology.info@list.indology.info>
Message-ID: <F1FB5BC0484C5F4DA1920D2FDE9E7E41B026FD93@HARVANDMBX01.fasmail.priv>

Dear Harry--
Mana is indeed an ?extended family house? in that it refers to a Namp?tiri Brahmin estate and all it encompasses (landholdings, temple, residential structures, residents). But the term simultaneously serves to identify the Namp?tiri patrilineal descent group who own the estate and/or have an ancestral connection to it. Pedagogical and priestly lineages are determined by a Namp?tiri?s birth into the mana: thus, members of a given mana specialise in the texts and rituals of a particular Vedic branch and officiate by hereditary right in particular contexts. For example, Ne?umpi??i Mana is associated with the (very rare) branch of the Black Yajurveda, V?dh?la; the family also plays a supervisory role in  temple worship across Kerala. That mana has an extensive library of manuscripts, which Yasuke Ikari, Masato Fujii (Kyoto University), and Mieko Kajihara (Tokyo University) have been documenting for many years now.

You can find more information and references in Marjatta Parpola?s Kerala Brahmins in Transition: A Study of a Namp?tiri Family, Studia Orientalia 91, Helsinki 2000.

yours,
Finnian
= = = = = = = = = = =
Finnian M. M. Gerety
Doctoral Candidate, Department of South Asian Studies
Harvard University
finniangerety.com<http://www.finniangerety.com>







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  2. Re: What is a "Mana" ? (Elliot Stern)
  3. Visuddhimagga (Dominik Wujastyk)
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Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 14:22:53 -0500
From: Harry Spier <hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com>
To: indology at list.indology.info
Subject: [INDOLOGY] What is a "Mana" ?
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Dear list members,

We have some old microfilm in our archives which is labelled as having been
taken some at Nedumpilli Mana, Taikkat Mana and Kavapramarth Mana.

I've found this website "Famous Manas in Kerala"
http://www.karmakerala.com/guide/famous-manas-in-kerala-guide.html

which lists Nedumpilli Mana amoung others but I'm still not clear what
exactly is meant by a "Mana".  Is it an extended family home?, the center
of a religious sect?, a religious school? or something else.

Apologies if this is an elementary question, any help would be appreciated.

Harry Spier
Manager, Muktabodha Digital Library
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Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2014 14:42:50 -0500
From: Elliot Stern <emstern at verizon.net>
To: Indology Indology listserve <indology at list.indology.info>
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] What is a "Mana" ?
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Generally, a mana is a Nambutiri brahman house.  According to http://malayalamenglishdictionary.com:
?? (mana)
house, abode, house of a Malayali Brahmin, wife.




Elliot M. Stern
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On 09 Nov  2014, at 14:22, Harry Spier <hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com> wrote:

Dear list members,

We have some old microfilm in our archives which is labelled as having been taken some at Nedumpilli Mana, Taikkat Mana and Kavapramarth Mana.

I've found this website "Famous Manas in Kerala"
http://www.karmakerala.com/guide/famous-manas-in-kerala-guide.html

which lists Nedumpilli Mana amoung others but I'm still not clear what exactly is meant by a "Mana".  Is it an extended family home?, the center of a religious sect?, a religious school? or something else.

Apologies if this is an elementary question, any help would be appreciated.

Harry Spier
Manager, Muktabodha Digital Library
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Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 21:44:20 +0100
From: Dominik Wujastyk <wujastyk at gmail.com>
To: Indology <indology at list.indology.info>
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Visuddhimagga
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The Visuddhimagga was edited and then published twice in Roman script in
the first half of the 20th century.  By Caroline A. F. Rhys Davids for the
PTS, published 1920 & 1921, and by Henry Clarke Warren for HOS,
posthumously published in 1950.  Neither edition refers to the other.

Did Warren not know about Caroline Rhys Davids' work?  Warren met him in
Oxford in 1884, as Lanman's *Memorial* notes, and was greatly influenced by
him.  Warren's work was done long  before that of Caroline Rhys Davids,
since Warren died in 1899.  But why wouldn't Dharmananda Kosambi have
mentioned Caroline RD's edition in his 1927 preface to Warren's?  It's
understandable that Warren's brother Edward wouldn't have known about
Caroline RD's edition, when he wrote his pathetic Foreword in 1927, since
he was not an indologist.  Why did Warren's edition take 23 years to be
printed, even after Kosambi had finished his editing of the MS?  1950 looks
like five years after the war, which is understandable.  But that doesn't
explain the twelve years of inaction before the war (and after the
editing).  Since Warren had paid for the HOS to exist, one would have
thought some priority might have been given to publishing his work.

And why didn't Caroline RD mention Warren's work?  Warren had used one of
her husband's manuscripts of the VM, so there would surely have been some
awareness of Warren's work.  And Thomas Rhys Davids was alive until the end
of 1922, and was aware of his wife's work on the VM, since she gave him
some pages for checking, some time before the end of 1920 (mentioned in her
foreword).  Caroline RD also knew that Warren had published an subject
analysis of the VM in the JPTS in 1892, but appears not to know his article
"Buddhaghosa's VM" of the same year, or his "Report of Progress" on his
work on the VM, published in 1894.   She mentions Warren in her afterword
on p. 767, but only as the author of Buddh. in Tr. (1896), which
incidentally contains a 50 passages  translated from the VM.

Has someone worked out all these matters?  I would have expected ?anamoli
to say something about this in his translation, but he doesn't.  He just
says he's using both editions.  Perhaps there are book reviews from the
later 1920s or 1950s that explain matters, I haven't looked yet.

Has anyone systematically compared the two editions for variants?  Caroline
RD's edition is a reproduction of four earlier printed editions, two from
Rangoon, two from Ceylon; Warren worked from MSS, two Burmese and two from
Ceylon.  One of Warrens' MSS came from the India Office and one from T RD's
private collection, as mentioned, so it must have been known in England,
and to T RD, that he was working on this text.

Best,
Dominik
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Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 07:11:39 -0500
From: Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu>
To: Andrey Klebanov <andra.kleb at gmail.com>,
"indology at list.indology.info" <indology at list.indology.info>
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] prayogamukha
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Dear Mr. Andrey Klevanov,

I have attached the pdf of V?rarucasa?graha published in the Trivandrum
Sanskrit Series.  If you receive digital versions of any of the other
editions, please forward them to me.  Thanks.

Madhav Deshpande

On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Andrey Klebanov <andra.kleb at gmail.com>
wrote:

Dear members of the list,

being aware of how slim the chances for the success of my query actually
are, I, nevertheless, would like to ask, if anyone of you may have a
digital copy of this book:

http://www.worldcat.org/title/prayoga-pallavah-vararucikrta-prayogasangraha-tadvyakhyanabhuta-dharmakrttikrta-prayogamukha-paramesvarajhakrta-prayogadarpaneti-granthadvayatmakaparisistavibhusitah-visvesvaramisrakrta-prayogapallava-vyakhyopetah/oclc/311561933
or, in fact, of any other edition of the text known under various names as
prayogamukha-[ma??ala/ ma??ana], prayogasa?graha, v?rarucasa?graha,
k?rakacakra etc.

thank you very much in advance,

Andrey Klebanov


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From gleb.sharygin at gmail.com  Sun Nov  9 23:00:28 2014
From: gleb.sharygin at gmail.com (Gleb Sharygin)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 14 03:00:28 +0400
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Visuddhimagga
Message-ID: <CALPiqivUy=drKJi4mpMdK6Ft2esjqG1d+GwVisZRWuUhxCeTQw@mail.gmail.com>

From: Dominik Wujastyk <wujastyk at gmail.com>

> To: Indology <indology at list.indology.info>
> Cc:
> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 21:44:20 +0100
> Subject: [INDOLOGY] Visuddhimagga
> The Visuddhimagga was edited and then published twice in Roman script in
> the first half of the 20th century.  By Caroline A. F. Rhys Davids for the
> PTS, published 1920 & 1921, and by Henry Clarke Warren for HOS,
> posthumously published in 1950.  Neither edition refers to the other.
>
> Did Warren not know about Caroline Rhys Davids' work?  Warren met him in
> Oxford in 1884, as Lanman's *Memorial* notes, and was greatly influenced
> by him.  Warren's work was done long  before that of Caroline Rhys Davids,
> since Warren died in 1899.  But why wouldn't Dharmananda Kosambi have
> mentioned Caroline RD's edition in his 1927 preface to Warren's?  It's
> understandable that Warren's brother Edward wouldn't have known about
> Caroline RD's edition, when he wrote his pathetic Foreword in 1927, since
> he was not an indologist.  Why did Warren's edition take 23 years to be
> printed, even after Kosambi had finished his editing of the MS?  1950 looks
> like five years after the war, which is understandable.  But that doesn't
> explain the twelve years of inaction before the war (and after the
> editing).  Since Warren had paid for the HOS to exist, one would have
> thought some priority might have been given to publishing his work.
>
> And why didn't Caroline RD mention Warren's work?  Warren had used one of
> her husband's manuscripts of the VM, so there would surely have been some
> awareness of Warren's work.  And Thomas Rhys Davids was alive until the end
> of 1922, and was aware of his wife's work on the VM, since she gave him
> some pages for checking, some time before the end of 1920 (mentioned in her
> foreword).  Caroline RD also knew that Warren had published an subject
> analysis of the VM in the JPTS in 1892, but appears not to know his article
> "Buddhaghosa's VM" of the same year, or his "Report of Progress" on his
> work on the VM, published in 1894.   She mentions Warren in her afterword
> on p. 767, but only as the author of Buddh. in Tr. (1896), which
> incidentally contains a 50 passages  translated from the VM.
>
> Has someone worked out all these matters?  I would have expected ?anamoli
> to say something about this in his translation, but he doesn't.  He just
> says he's using both editions.  Perhaps there are book reviews from the
> later 1920s or 1950s that explain matters, I haven't looked yet.
>
> Has anyone systematically compared the two editions for variants?
> Caroline RD's edition is a reproduction of four earlier printed editions,
> two from Rangoon, two from Ceylon; Warren worked from MSS, two Burmese and
> two from Ceylon.  One of Warrens' MSS came from the India Office and one
> from T RD's private collection, as mentioned, so it must have been known in
> England, and to T RD, that he was working on this text.
>
> Best,
> Dominik
>
>
Dear Dr. Wujastyk,

There is a great paper by Steven Collins, dealing with exactly these
matters:

Remarks on the *Visuddhimagga*, and on its treatment of the Memory of
Former Dwelling(s) (pubbeniv?s?nussati???a)
Journal of Indian Philosophy (2009), 37:499?532.

Please find it attached.

Interestingly, it contains in a large footnote ?22 surprisingly severe
criticism of the E. Frauwallner's academic method.

With best regards,
Gleb Sharygin.


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From asko.parpola at helsinki.fi  Mon Nov 10 07:07:28 2014
From: asko.parpola at helsinki.fi (asko.parpola at helsinki.fi)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 14 09:07:28 +0200
Subject: [INDOLOGY] What is a "Mana" ?
In-Reply-To: <CAPW7aQFyxdCJ2ATTrut7Tj-qMCky7aH6Jwuo_ryPiRm8BGABLg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20141110090728.Horde.vUlK5tjByrkiL1qmDTiVRQ1@webmail.helsinki.fi>


Your old microfilm is of high interest for Vedic scholars, especially
those studying the Vedic traditions of Kerala, for the Nambudiri Brahmin
Houses mentioned are among the most important houses with Vedic traditions.

The NeTumpiLLi TaraNanalluur Mana represents the rare Vaadhuula school
of Yajurveda and has many  manuscripts of this school, microfilmed,
studied and published by Professors Yasuke Ikari, Masato Fujii and
Mieko Kajihara of Japan- TaikkaaTu Mana is one of the few Vaidika houses
having the right to organise Vedic Soma sacrifices, and Kaavapra MaaRattu
Mana is one of the few families with Soma sacrificers in recent times.

Best regards, Asko Parpola




Quoting Harry Spier <hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com>:

> Dear list members,
>
> We have some old microfilm in our archives which is labelled as having been
> taken some at Nedumpilli Mana, Taikkat Mana and Kavapramarth Mana.
>
> I've found this website "Famous Manas in Kerala"
> http://www.karmakerala.com/guide/famous-manas-in-kerala-guide.html
>
> which lists Nedumpilli Mana amoung others but I'm still not clear what
> exactly is meant by a "Mana".  Is it an extended family home?, the center
> of a religious sect?, a religious school? or something else.
>
> Apologies if this is an elementary question, any help would be appreciated.
>
> Harry Spier
> Manager, Muktabodha Digital Library






From john.brockington at btinternet.com  Mon Nov 10 09:24:17 2014
From: john.brockington at btinternet.com (John Brockington)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 14 09:24:17 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] change of e-mail address
Message-ID: <54608441.602@btinternet.com>

Dear Colleagues,

On Thursday I discovered that my Edinburgh University e-mail was no 
longer working and subsequent enquiries have revealed that it was 
deliberately terminated, despite my having been given an assurance about 
a couple of months ago that it would be continued (this was in response 
to my request for continuation after receiving notice that the current 
period of validity was nearing its end).  This means that I have no 
access to past messages, sent or received.  If you have by any chance 
sent a message recently to which I have not replied, I have either lost 
it or never received it, so please resend it to my personal e-mail 
address, from which this is being sent.

Yours

John Brockington

  


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From wujastyk at gmail.com  Mon Nov 10 17:45:58 2014
From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 14 18:45:58 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Visuddhimagga
In-Reply-To: <CALPiqivUy=drKJi4mpMdK6Ft2esjqG1d+GwVisZRWuUhxCeTQw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKdt-CfmNzABgiYAdGQEYsoL5FsXbbtmfp-i03xJR6RwxTVdnw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, Gleb, that's exactly the kind of thing I was looking for.
Excellent!

Most grateful,
Dominik

On 10 November 2014 00:00, Gleb Sharygin <gleb.sharygin at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> From: Dominik Wujastyk <wujastyk at gmail.com>
>
>> To: Indology <indology at list.indology.info>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 21:44:20 +0100
>> Subject: [INDOLOGY] Visuddhimagga
>>
>> The Visuddhimagga was edited and then published twice in Roman script in
>> the first half of the 20th century.  By Caroline A. F. Rhys Davids for the
>> PTS, published 1920 & 1921, and by Henry Clarke Warren for HOS,
>> posthumously published in 1950.  Neither edition refers to the other.
>>
>> Did Warren not know about Caroline Rhys Davids' work?  Warren met him in
>> Oxford in 1884, as Lanman's *Memorial* notes, and was greatly influenced
>> by him.  Warren's work was done long  before that of Caroline Rhys Davids,
>> since Warren died in 1899.  But why wouldn't Dharmananda Kosambi have
>> mentioned Caroline RD's edition in his 1927 preface to Warren's?  It's
>> understandable that Warren's brother Edward wouldn't have known about
>> Caroline RD's edition, when he wrote his pathetic Foreword in 1927, since
>> he was not an indologist.  Why did Warren's edition take 23 years to be
>> printed, even after Kosambi had finished his editing of the MS?  1950 looks
>> like five years after the war, which is understandable.  But that doesn't
>> explain the twelve years of inaction before the war (and after the
>> editing).  Since Warren had paid for the HOS to exist, one would have
>> thought some priority might have been given to publishing his work.
>>
>> And why didn't Caroline RD mention Warren's work?  Warren had used one of
>> her husband's manuscripts of the VM, so there would surely have been some
>> awareness of Warren's work.  And Thomas Rhys Davids was alive until the end
>> of 1922, and was aware of his wife's work on the VM, since she gave him
>> some pages for checking, some time before the end of 1920 (mentioned in her
>> foreword).  Caroline RD also knew that Warren had published an subject
>> analysis of the VM in the JPTS in 1892, but appears not to know his article
>> "Buddhaghosa's VM" of the same year, or his "Report of Progress" on his
>> work on the VM, published in 1894.   She mentions Warren in her afterword
>> on p. 767, but only as the author of Buddh. in Tr. (1896), which
>> incidentally contains a 50 passages  translated from the VM.
>>
>> Has someone worked out all these matters?  I would have expected ?anamoli
>> to say something about this in his translation, but he doesn't.  He just
>> says he's using both editions.  Perhaps there are book reviews from the
>> later 1920s or 1950s that explain matters, I haven't looked yet.
>>
>> Has anyone systematically compared the two editions for variants?
>> Caroline RD's edition is a reproduction of four earlier printed editions,
>> two from Rangoon, two from Ceylon; Warren worked from MSS, two Burmese and
>> two from Ceylon.  One of Warrens' MSS came from the India Office and one
>> from T RD's private collection, as mentioned, so it must have been known in
>> England, and to T RD, that he was working on this text.
>>
>> Best,
>> Dominik
>>
>>
> Dear Dr. Wujastyk,
>
> There is a great paper by Steven Collins, dealing with exactly these
> matters:
>
> Remarks on the *Visuddhimagga*, and on its treatment of the Memory of
> Former Dwelling(s) (pubbeniv?s?nussati???a)
> Journal of Indian Philosophy (2009), 37:499?532.
>
> Please find it attached.
>
> Interestingly, it contains in a large footnote ?22 surprisingly severe
> criticism of the E. Frauwallner's academic method.
>
> With best regards,
> Gleb Sharygin.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From strauchi at zedat.fu-berlin.de  Mon Nov 10 18:40:52 2014
From: strauchi at zedat.fu-berlin.de (Ingo Strauch)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 14 19:40:52 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] CALL FOR PAPERS: Buddhist and Muslim Encounters in Premodern South Asia
Message-ID: <546106B4.4010102@zedat.fu-berlin.de>

Dear Colleagues,


I would like to bring to your attention a conference on Buddhist and 
Muslim Encounters in Premodern South Asia.

Conference to be held at the University of Lausanne, October 12th-13th, 
2015.

Abstracts of 300 words and a 1 page CV by January 15, 2015.

Conference funds will cover travel, accommodations, and meals for 
participants.

For more information on the conference please see the website.

https://www3.unil.ch/wpmu/bmesa/

With my best wishes
Ingo Strauch

-- 
Prof. Dr. Ingo Strauch
Sanskrit et ?tudes Bouddhiques

Universit? de Lausanne
Anthropole 4076
CH-1015 Lausanne

Phone ++41-(0)21-692-3005






From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com  Mon Nov 10 20:18:24 2014
From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 14 01:48:24 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] What is a mana ?
Message-ID: <CAJGj9eZdXB4iTLo_v=JSZW6iOHFZQH6-1JBuxfypYrjSehxqQw@mail.gmail.com>

The following is not in dispute with any of the Vedic cultural implications
of various kinds of Manas and the related significance of the microfilms.

This is limited only to the word 'mana' , its etymology as a Dravidian
word.

DED entry from he online DED is as follows:

4776 Ta. ma?ai

4776 *Ta. ma?ai* house, dwelling, mansion, house-site, a land measure,
wife, family, household, domestic life; *ma?aiy??, ma?aiy??* wife; *ma?aivi*
wife, heroine of a pastoral or agricultural tract, female owner or resident
of a house. *Ma. mana* house; brahman's wife. *Ko. mantanm* affairs of
household; *man devr* household god. *To. man* family, household. *Ka. mane*
habitation, abode, house, apartment, room; *manetana, mantana* household,
household life; *manetanasta* householder, a worthy, honourable man. *Ko?.
mane* house; *maneka?r?* man of a house. *Tu. man?* house, home; *manetana*
household. *Kon?a po??e? mane* cowshed (cf. 4500). Cf. 4778 Ta. *ma??u.*
DED(S) 3911.

This entry does not mention the Telugu verb manu = to live, to survive .

 Kannada mane and Malayaalam manaTamil mania etc. seem to be related to
this root  manu= to live.



-- 
Prof.Nagaraj Paturi
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From francois.voegeli at gmail.com  Tue Nov 11 07:37:59 2014
From: francois.voegeli at gmail.com (Francois Voegeli)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 14 08:37:59 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] What is a mana ?
In-Reply-To: <CAJGj9eZdXB4iTLo_v=JSZW6iOHFZQH6-1JBuxfypYrjSehxqQw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F054DC67-326C-4FF7-972C-D855DB8DEBEE@gmail.com>

May I  also draw attention to a recently published (very) rich study on the architecture and function of the Nambudiri Manas: 

Henri Schildt, The Traditional Kerala Manor: Architecture of A South Indian Catu???la House, EFEO 2012 

Yours,

Dr F. Voegeli


On 10 nov. 2014, at 21:18, Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi at gmail.com> wrote:

> The following is not in dispute with any of the Vedic cultural implications of various kinds of Manas and the related significance of the microfilms.
>  
> This is limited only to the word 'mana' , its etymology as a Dravidian word.
>  
> DED entry from he online DED is as follows:
>  
> 4776 Ta. ma?ai
> 4776 Ta. ma?ai house, dwelling, mansion, house-site, a land measure, wife, family, household, domestic life; ma?aiy??, ma?aiy?? wife; ma?aivi wife, heroine of a pastoral or agricultural tract, female owner or resident of a house. Ma. mana house; brahman's wife. Ko. mantanm affairs of household; man devr household god. To. man family, household. Ka. mane habitation, abode, house, apartment, room; manetana, mantana household, household life; manetanasta householder, a worthy, honourable man. Ko?. mane house; maneka?r? man of a house. Tu. man? house, home; manetana household. Kon?a po??e? mane cowshed (cf. 4500). Cf. 4778 Ta. ma??u. DED(S) 3911.
> 
> This entry does not mention the Telugu verb manu = to live, to survive .
> 
>  Kannada mane and Malayaalam manaTamil mania etc. seem to be related to this root  manu= to live. 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Prof.Nagaraj Paturi
> Hyderabad-500044
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From christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be  Tue Nov 11 10:31:34 2014
From: christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be (Christophe Vielle)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 14 11:31:34 +0100
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_Paris=CC=81is=CC=A3t=CC=A3as_of_the_Atharvaveda?=
Message-ID: <2CF2D1BB-93F9-4F49-B4EB-6BF2AE56DB7D@uclouvain.be>

Dear List,
would it happen that somebody has a better scan (in .pdf) of 
G. M. Bolling & J. von Negelein, The Paris?is?t?as of the Atharvaveda. Volume 1: Text and Critical Apparatus, in 2 Parts. Leipzig 1909?1910
than the one available through the DLI:
http://www.new1.dli.ernet.in/scripts/FullindexDefault.htm?path1=/data9/upload/0288/055&first=1&last=654&barcode=99999990290123
http://www.new.dli.ernet.in/scripts/FullindexDefault.htm?path1=/data14/upload/0005/392&first=1&last=654&barcode=99999990314562
Best wishes
???????????????????
Christophe Vielle
Louvain-la-Neuve



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From christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be  Tue Nov 11 12:27:24 2014
From: christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be (Christophe Vielle)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 14 13:27:24 +0100
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_Fwd:__Paris=CC=81is=CC=A3t=CC=A3as_of_the_Atharvaveda?=
In-Reply-To: <5461EBCA.104@uni-bonn.de>
Message-ID: <DD6F7C65-6A52-433D-8895-BD9AD4742792@uclouvain.be>

Many thanks to Peter Wyzlic for these links.

D?but du message r?exp?di? :

> De: Peter Wyzlic <pwyzlic at uni-bonn.de>
> Objet: R?p : [INDOLOGY] Paris?is?t?as of the Atharvaveda
> Date: 11 novembre 2014 11:58:18 UTC+1
> ?: Christophe Vielle <christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be>
> 
> See, e.g., this:
> URL: <http://jhir.library.jhu.edu/handle/1774.2/33462>
> URL: <http://jhir.library.jhu.edu/handle/1774.2/35906>
> 
> All the best
> Peter Wyzlic
> 
> Am 11.11.2014 11:31, schrieb Christophe Vielle:
>> would it happen that somebody has a better scan (in .pdf) of 
>> G. M. Bolling & J. von Negelein, The Paris?is?t?as of the Atharvaveda. Volume 1: Text and Critical Apparatus, in 2 Parts. Leipzig 1909?1910
>> than the one available through the DLI:
>> http://www.new1.dli.ernet.in/scripts/FullindexDefault.htm?path1=/data9/upload/0288/055&first=1&last=654&barcode=99999990290123
>> http://www.new.dli.ernet.in/scripts/FullindexDefault.htm?path1=/data14/upload/0005/392&first=1&last=654&barcode=99999990314562
>> 
> -- 
> Institut f?r Orient- und Asienwissenschaften
> Bibliothek
> Universit?t Bonn
> Regina-Pacis-Weg 7
> D-53113 Bonn

???????????????????
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From arlogriffiths at hotmail.com  Tue Nov 11 15:14:11 2014
From: arlogriffiths at hotmail.com (Arlo Griffiths)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 14 15:14:11 +0000
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Fwd:__Paris=CC=81is=CC=A3t=CC=A3as_of_the_Atharvaveda?=
In-Reply-To: <DD6F7C65-6A52-433D-8895-BD9AD4742792@uclouvain.be>
Message-ID: <DUB114-W875AFAAEDF9E5203A93280A5810@phx.gbl>

Thanks a lot Christophe and Peter.

This still leaves vol. I, part II unaccounted for. Is any pdf freely available for that part or for the whole of vol. I (all published)?

Best wishes,

Arlo Griffiths
EFEO

From: christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:27:24 +0100
To: indology at list.indology.info
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Fwd:  Paris?is?t?as of the Atharvaveda

Many thanks to Peter Wyzlic for these links.

D?but du message r?exp?di? :De: Peter Wyzlic <pwyzlic at uni-bonn.de>
Objet: R?p : [INDOLOGY] Paris?is?t?as of the Atharvaveda
Date: 11 novembre 2014 11:58:18 UTC+1
?: Christophe Vielle <christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be>

See, e.g., this:
URL: <http://jhir.library.jhu.edu/handle/1774.2/33462>
URL: <http://jhir.library.jhu.edu/handle/1774.2/35906>

All the best
Peter Wyzlic



  
  
    Am 11.11.2014 11:31, schrieb Christophe
      Vielle:

    
    
      
      would it happen that somebody has a better scan (in .pdf) of 
      G. M. Bolling & J. von Negelein, The Paris?is?t?as of the Atharvaveda.
          Volume 1: Text and Critical Apparatus,
          in 2 Parts. Leipzig 1909?1910
      than the one available through the DLI:
      
        http://www.new1.dli.ernet.in/scripts/FullindexDefault.htm?path1=/data9/upload/0288/055&first=1&last=654&barcode=99999990290123
        http://www.new.dli.ernet.in/scripts/FullindexDefault.htm?path1=/data14/upload/0005/392&first=1&last=654&barcode=99999990314562
        

      
    
    -- 
Institut f?r Orient- und Asienwissenschaften
Bibliothek
Universit?t Bonn
Regina-Pacis-Weg 7
D-53113 Bonn

  



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From hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com  Wed Nov 12 14:56:24 2014
From: hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com (Harry Spier)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 14 09:56:24 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] What is a "Mana" ?
Message-ID: <CAPW7aQFDVaXTn3R_41X_80DyUO4cu7mALrz-5uth-8D3ECi6mA@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you to everyone who replied both on and off-list

Harry Spier

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 2:07 AM, <asko.parpola at helsinki.fi> wrote:

>
> Your old microfilm is of high interest for Vedic scholars, especially
> those studying the Vedic traditions of Kerala, for the Nambudiri Brahmin
> Houses mentioned are among the most important houses with Vedic traditions.
>
> The NeTumpiLLi TaraNanalluur Mana represents the rare Vaadhuula school
> of Yajurveda and has many  manuscripts of this school, microfilmed,
> studied and published by Professors Yasuke Ikari, Masato Fujii and
> Mieko Kajihara of Japan- TaikkaaTu Mana is one of the few Vaidika houses
> having the right to organise Vedic Soma sacrifices, and Kaavapra MaaRattu
> Mana is one of the few families with Soma sacrificers in recent times.
>
> Best regards, Asko Parpola
>
>
>
>
>
> Quoting Harry Spier <hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com>:
>
>  Dear list members,
>>
>> We have some old microfilm in our archives which is labelled as having
>> been
>> taken some at Nedumpilli Mana, Taikkat Mana and Kavapramarth Mana.
>>
>> I've found this website "Famous Manas in Kerala"
>> http://www.karmakerala.com/guide/famous-manas-in-kerala-guide.html
>>
>> which lists Nedumpilli Mana amoung others but I'm still not clear what
>> exactly is meant by a "Mana".  Is it an extended family home?, the center
>> of a religious sect?, a religious school? or something else.
>>
>> Apologies if this is an elementary question, any help would be
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Harry Spier
>> Manager, Muktabodha Digital Library
>>
>
>
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From H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl  Wed Nov 12 20:51:16 2014
From: H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl (Tieken, H.J.H.)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 14 20:51:16 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] request article
Message-ID: <EA8F815D502BC14097213C5D85BA1C6522C1AB8E@SPMXM07.VUW.leidenuniv.nl>

Dear list members,

I am looking for the following article:

Christian Lindtner, "An old error in A?oka's first Pillar Edict", in N.H. Samthani (ed.), ?rama?a Vidy? ? Studies in Buddhism. Prof. Jagannath Upadhaya Commemoration Volume,  I. Varanasi 1987, pp. 279-281. The article is referred to in Harry Falk, "Das erste S?ulenedikt A?okas" in the 1996 Festschrift for Dieter Schlingloff.

With kind regards, Herman Tieken


Herman Tieken
University of Leiden
The Netherlands
website: hermantieken.com<http://hermantieken.com/>


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From wujastyk at gmail.com  Thu Nov 13 11:12:19 2014
From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 14 12:12:19 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Visuddhimagga
In-Reply-To: <CALPiqivUy=drKJi4mpMdK6Ft2esjqG1d+GwVisZRWuUhxCeTQw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKdt-Cehg6=r9aCKg5DkOTsj==t20=o0BPvoxL8mEGTSNUFL2g@mail.gmail.com>

There's a new wrinkle on the editing history of the Visuddhimagga, not
mentioned in Steve Collins' article, but kindly brought to my attention by
Christophe Vielle (thanks!).

Dharmanand Damodar Kosambi (not to be confused with his son Damodar
Dharmanand Kosambi) worked on Warren's edition of the Visuddhimagga.
Dharmanand's work was finished in 1911, but the book took until 1950 to
appear.

Meanwhile, Dharmanand went back to India, and in 1940 he published in
Bombay an edition of the Visuddhimagga
<http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/55562616> in his own name, work that he had
begun in 1909. It was based on the same manuscripts as Warren's work, plus
reference to two printed editions from SE Asia, perhaps the same as those
used by Caroline Rhys Davids.  Dharmanand said, in his Preface,
The sources used for the present edition are primarily the same as those
employed for the Harvard edition, consisting of four excellent manuscripts:
two Burmese, two Singhalese.  In addition, I have used one printed edition
in Burmese and one in Siamese Characters ; while generally not so good as
the first of the Burmese manuscripts, these contain an occasional superior
reading. To reduce the bulk of this volume, I have omitted all variants ;
the best alternative readings, however, will be given with my own
commentary-in the volume to follow.
Dharmanand's Visuddhimagga edition has been transcribed and published as a
web document
<http://dharmanandkosambi.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=126&Itemid=144>
.

So there are *three* editions of the Visuddhimagga published between 1920
and 1950, with entangled editorial histories:

   1. Caroline Rhys Davids, 1920, based on 4 printed editions
   2. Dharmanand Kosambi, 1940, based on 4 MSS and 2 editions
   3. Henry Clark Warren, 1950, based on 4 MSS
   Warren died in 1899, leaving his edition almost complete.  Kosambi was
   invited by Lanman to bring it to a publishable state, which he and Lanman
   did together, completing that between 1910 and 1911. Nothing then happened
   for fifteen years.  Then Lanman and Kosambi settled some dispute, and
   Kosambi saw the work through the press in 1926-1927.  But the work remained
   unpublished until 1950 [Preface
   <http://dharmanandkosambi.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=160&Itemid=266>
   ].

Warren's actual editorial work on the text preceded that of both the
others.  But it was only published after their editions.

For his 1940 edition, begun in 1909, Kosambi used the same MSS as Warren
had used 40 years earlier.  Two of these MSS were personally procured by
Warren from England, by correspondence with Thomas Rhys Davids and with Dr
Richard Morris [as Lanman says <http://www.jstor.org/stable/592341?seq=4>],
and a third was personally lent by Henry Rigg.  Did Kosambi really,
separately, gain access to the very same privately-owned MSS?  Or were they
still in Cambridge MA when he worked  there after Warren's death?  Or did
Kosambi use Warren's unpublished text in constituting his own edition.  It
is hard to imagine that he would not do so, since the work was done and lay
there before him.

I should mention that for all these editors it was a matter of importance
that their editions were produced in this or that script.  Caroline Rhys
Davids' edition was mainly undertaken in order to produce a Roman-alphabet
version of the pre-existing Burmese- and Ceylonese-script editions.  She
showed little engagement with actual text-critical tasks.  Warren was
engaged with both text-criticism and with the idea of transliteration.
Warren's edition prints MS readings.  Kosambi also cared about script,
producing his edition in Devanagari, thus intending specifically to reach a
readership in India.  Kosambi also engaged in text-critical tasks to the
extent that he applied Paninian grammatical thinking to the construal of
the text, especially in matters of sandhi.  But Kosambi omitted to print
any variants from the manuscripts, which means that his edition cannot be
used as a critical edition, since he denies the reader the opportunity to
think critically about his editorial choices and their alternatives.

?Best,
Dominik?

--
The secondary literature
<http://books.google.at/books?id=q1XoNhUrP1MC&lpg=PA180&dq=dharmanand%20kosambi%20visuddhimagga&pg=PA180#v=onepage&q=dharmanand%20kosambi%20visuddhimagga&f=false>
contains references to an edition of the Visuddhimagga by Dharmanand
Kosambi (and not Warren) published by OUP in London in 1950.  I think this
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From hermantull at gmail.com  Thu Nov 13 15:21:58 2014
From: hermantull at gmail.com (Herman Tull)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 14 10:21:58 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Visuddhimagga
In-Reply-To: <CAKdt-Cehg6=r9aCKg5DkOTsj==t20=o0BPvoxL8mEGTSNUFL2g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFdBLNgR7xS-t+51cVtdRme3S-FJ=hpE40zNTbUV6e3M6z1qPA@mail.gmail.com>

Dominik,

You are likely aware of Lanman's essay, India and the West with a Plea for
Team Work among Scholars (JAOS 40 [1920], and can be assessed here,
https://archive.org/details/jstor-593425). I don't recall any discussion of
the Visuddhimagga (I've not read it in a long time), but it does add to our
understanding of Lanman's views.

regrads,

Herman

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 6:12 AM, Dominik Wujastyk <wujastyk at gmail.com>
wrote:

> There's a new wrinkle on the editing history of the Visuddhimagga, not
> mentioned in Steve Collins' article, but kindly brought to my attention by
> Christophe Vielle (thanks!).
>
> Dharmanand Damodar Kosambi (not to be confused with his son Damodar
> Dharmanand Kosambi) worked on Warren's edition of the Visuddhimagga.
> Dharmanand's work was finished in 1911, but the book took until 1950 to
> appear.
>
> Meanwhile, Dharmanand went back to India, and in 1940 he published in
> Bombay an edition of the Visuddhimagga
> <http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/55562616> in his own name, work that he had
> begun in 1909. It was based on the same manuscripts as Warren's work, plus
> reference to two printed editions from SE Asia, perhaps the same as those
> used by Caroline Rhys Davids.  Dharmanand said, in his Preface,
> The sources used for the present edition are primarily the same as those
> employed for the Harvard edition, consisting of four excellent manuscripts:
> two Burmese, two Singhalese.  In addition, I have used one printed edition
> in Burmese and one in Siamese Characters ; while generally not so good as
> the first of the Burmese manuscripts, these contain an occasional superior
> reading. To reduce the bulk of this volume, I have omitted all variants ;
> the best alternative readings, however, will be given with my own
> commentary-in the volume to follow.
> Dharmanand's Visuddhimagga edition has been transcribed and published as
> a web document
> <http://dharmanandkosambi.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=126&Itemid=144>
> .
>
> So there are *three* editions of the Visuddhimagga published between 1920
> and 1950, with entangled editorial histories:
>
>    1. Caroline Rhys Davids, 1920, based on 4 printed editions
>    2. Dharmanand Kosambi, 1940, based on 4 MSS and 2 editions
>    3. Henry Clark Warren, 1950, based on 4 MSS
>    Warren died in 1899, leaving his edition almost complete.  Kosambi was
>    invited by Lanman to bring it to a publishable state, which he and Lanman
>    did together, completing that between 1910 and 1911. Nothing then happened
>    for fifteen years.  Then Lanman and Kosambi settled some dispute, and
>    Kosambi saw the work through the press in 1926-1927.  But the work remained
>    unpublished until 1950 [Preface
>    <http://dharmanandkosambi.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=160&Itemid=266>
>    ].
>
> Warren's actual editorial work on the text preceded that of both the
> others.  But it was only published after their editions.
>
> For his 1940 edition, begun in 1909, Kosambi used the same MSS as Warren
> had used 40 years earlier.  Two of these MSS were personally procured by
> Warren from England, by correspondence with Thomas Rhys Davids and with Dr
> Richard Morris [as Lanman says <http://www.jstor.org/stable/592341?seq=4>],
> and a third was personally lent by Henry Rigg.  Did Kosambi really,
> separately, gain access to the very same privately-owned MSS?  Or were they
> still in Cambridge MA when he worked  there after Warren's death?  Or did
> Kosambi use Warren's unpublished text in constituting his own edition.  It
> is hard to imagine that he would not do so, since the work was done and lay
> there before him.
>
> I should mention that for all these editors it was a matter of importance
> that their editions were produced in this or that script.  Caroline Rhys
> Davids' edition was mainly undertaken in order to produce a Roman-alphabet
> version of the pre-existing Burmese- and Ceylonese-script editions.  She
> showed little engagement with actual text-critical tasks.  Warren was
> engaged with both text-criticism and with the idea of transliteration.
> Warren's edition prints MS readings.  Kosambi also cared about script,
> producing his edition in Devanagari, thus intending specifically to reach a
> readership in India.  Kosambi also engaged in text-critical tasks to the
> extent that he applied Paninian grammatical thinking to the construal of
> the text, especially in matters of sandhi.  But Kosambi omitted to print
> any variants from the manuscripts, which means that his edition cannot be
> used as a critical edition, since he denies the reader the opportunity to
> think critically about his editorial choices and their alternatives.
>
> ?Best,
> Dominik?
>
> --
> The secondary literature
> <http://books.google.at/books?id=q1XoNhUrP1MC&lpg=PA180&dq=dharmanand%20kosambi%20visuddhimagga&pg=PA180#v=onepage&q=dharmanand%20kosambi%20visuddhimagga&f=false>
> contains references to an edition of the Visuddhimagga by Dharmanand
> Kosambi (and not Warren) published by OUP in London in 1950.  I think this
> is probably just an error.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From wujastyk at gmail.com  Thu Nov 13 15:48:51 2014
From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 14 16:48:51 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Visuddhimagga
In-Reply-To: <CAFdBLNgR7xS-t+51cVtdRme3S-FJ=hpE40zNTbUV6e3M6z1qPA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKdt-CdKzvYT10_6LMpWZKGVYreW5e+wpKQDd66T_aFiO9iYzw@mail.gmail.com>

No, I didn't know that one.  Thanks, Herman!
Dominik

On 13 November 2014 16:21, Herman Tull <hermantull at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dominik,
>
> You are likely aware of Lanman's essay, India and the West with a Plea for
> Team Work among Scholars (JAOS 40 [1920], and can be assessed here,
> https://archive.org/details/jstor-593425). I don't recall any discussion
> of the Visuddhimagga (I've not read it in a long time), but it does add to
> our understanding of Lanman's views.
>
> regrads,
>
> Herman
>
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 6:12 AM, Dominik Wujastyk <wujastyk at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> There's a new wrinkle on the editing history of the Visuddhimagga, not
>> mentioned in Steve Collins' article, but kindly brought to my attention by
>> Christophe Vielle (thanks!).
>>
>> Dharmanand Damodar Kosambi (not to be confused with his son Damodar
>> Dharmanand Kosambi) worked on Warren's edition of the Visuddhimagga.
>> Dharmanand's work was finished in 1911, but the book took until 1950 to
>> appear.
>>
>> Meanwhile, Dharmanand went back to India, and in 1940 he published in
>> Bombay an edition of the Visuddhimagga
>> <http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/55562616> in his own name, work that he
>> had begun in 1909. It was based on the same manuscripts as Warren's work,
>> plus reference to two printed editions from SE Asia, perhaps the same as
>> those used by Caroline Rhys Davids.  Dharmanand said, in his Preface,
>> The sources used for the present edition are primarily the same as those
>> employed for the Harvard edition, consisting of four excellent manuscripts:
>> two Burmese, two Singhalese.  In addition, I have used one printed edition
>> in Burmese and one in Siamese Characters ; while generally not so good as
>> the first of the Burmese manuscripts, these contain an occasional superior
>> reading. To reduce the bulk of this volume, I have omitted all variants ;
>> the best alternative readings, however, will be given with my own
>> commentary-in the volume to follow.
>> Dharmanand's Visuddhimagga edition has been transcribed and published as
>> a web document
>> <http://dharmanandkosambi.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=126&Itemid=144>
>> .
>>
>> So there are *three* editions of the Visuddhimagga published between
>> 1920 and 1950, with entangled editorial histories:
>>
>>    1. Caroline Rhys Davids, 1920, based on 4 printed editions
>>    2. Dharmanand Kosambi, 1940, based on 4 MSS and 2 editions
>>    3. Henry Clark Warren, 1950, based on 4 MSS
>>    Warren died in 1899, leaving his edition almost complete.  Kosambi
>>    was invited by Lanman to bring it to a publishable state, which he and
>>    Lanman did together, completing that between 1910 and 1911. Nothing then
>>    happened for fifteen years.  Then Lanman and Kosambi settled some dispute,
>>    and Kosambi saw the work through the press in 1926-1927.  But the work
>>    remained unpublished until 1950 [Preface
>>    <http://dharmanandkosambi.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=160&Itemid=266>
>>    ].
>>
>> Warren's actual editorial work on the text preceded that of both the
>> others.  But it was only published after their editions.
>>
>> For his 1940 edition, begun in 1909, Kosambi used the same MSS as Warren
>> had used 40 years earlier.  Two of these MSS were personally procured by
>> Warren from England, by correspondence with Thomas Rhys Davids and with Dr
>> Richard Morris [as Lanman says <http://www.jstor.org/stable/592341?seq=4>],
>> and a third was personally lent by Henry Rigg.  Did Kosambi really,
>> separately, gain access to the very same privately-owned MSS?  Or were they
>> still in Cambridge MA when he worked  there after Warren's death?  Or did
>> Kosambi use Warren's unpublished text in constituting his own edition.  It
>> is hard to imagine that he would not do so, since the work was done and lay
>> there before him.
>>
>> I should mention that for all these editors it was a matter of importance
>> that their editions were produced in this or that script.  Caroline Rhys
>> Davids' edition was mainly undertaken in order to produce a Roman-alphabet
>> version of the pre-existing Burmese- and Ceylonese-script editions.  She
>> showed little engagement with actual text-critical tasks.  Warren was
>> engaged with both text-criticism and with the idea of transliteration.
>> Warren's edition prints MS readings.  Kosambi also cared about script,
>> producing his edition in Devanagari, thus intending specifically to reach a
>> readership in India.  Kosambi also engaged in text-critical tasks to the
>> extent that he applied Paninian grammatical thinking to the construal of
>> the text, especially in matters of sandhi.  But Kosambi omitted to print
>> any variants from the manuscripts, which means that his edition cannot be
>> used as a critical edition, since he denies the reader the opportunity to
>> think critically about his editorial choices and their alternatives.
>>
>> ?Best,
>> Dominik?
>>
>> --
>> The secondary literature
>> <http://books.google.at/books?id=q1XoNhUrP1MC&lpg=PA180&dq=dharmanand%20kosambi%20visuddhimagga&pg=PA180#v=onepage&q=dharmanand%20kosambi%20visuddhimagga&f=false>
>> contains references to an edition of the Visuddhimagga by Dharmanand
>> Kosambi (and not Warren) published by OUP in London in 1950.  I think this
>> is probably just an error.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>> http://listinfo.indology.info
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> *Herman TullPrinceton, NJ *
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From wujastyk at gmail.com  Thu Nov 13 16:01:59 2014
From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 14 17:01:59 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Visuddhimagga
In-Reply-To: <CAFdBLNgR7xS-t+51cVtdRme3S-FJ=hpE40zNTbUV6e3M6z1qPA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKdt-Cd5R1gWKOYDNK3soDKsTw1NKkCwbdEMjG08F3jpjCfVbQ@mail.gmail.com>

I read here again (241 ff.) that Lanman was preparing an Elementary Grammar
of a mere 50 pages or so (but with a commentarial appendix).  I find no
record of it in print.  Did it never come out?  Is it lying in a Harvard
library?

Dominik

PS I enjoyed his charmingly-expressed swipe at Stenzler (242). :-)
And in footnote 11 he perfectly foretells chatspeak: "Don't be disconsol8."


On 13 November 2014 16:21, Herman Tull <hermantull at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dominik,
>
> You are likely aware of Lanman's essay, India and the West with a Plea for
> Team Work among Scholars (JAOS 40 [1920], and can be assessed here,
> https://archive.org/details/jstor-593425). I don't recall any discussion
> of the Visuddhimagga (I've not read it in a long time), but it does add to
> our understanding of Lanman's views.
>
> regrads,
>
> Herman
>
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 6:12 AM, Dominik Wujastyk <wujastyk at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> There's a new wrinkle on the editing history of the Visuddhimagga, not
>> mentioned in Steve Collins' article, but kindly brought to my attention by
>> Christophe Vielle (thanks!).
>>
>> Dharmanand Damodar Kosambi (not to be confused with his son Damodar
>> Dharmanand Kosambi) worked on Warren's edition of the Visuddhimagga.
>> Dharmanand's work was finished in 1911, but the book took until 1950 to
>> appear.
>>
>> Meanwhile, Dharmanand went back to India, and in 1940 he published in
>> Bombay an edition of the Visuddhimagga
>> <http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/55562616> in his own name, work that he
>> had begun in 1909. It was based on the same manuscripts as Warren's work,
>> plus reference to two printed editions from SE Asia, perhaps the same as
>> those used by Caroline Rhys Davids.  Dharmanand said, in his Preface,
>> The sources used for the present edition are primarily the same as those
>> employed for the Harvard edition, consisting of four excellent manuscripts:
>> two Burmese, two Singhalese.  In addition, I have used one printed edition
>> in Burmese and one in Siamese Characters ; while generally not so good as
>> the first of the Burmese manuscripts, these contain an occasional superior
>> reading. To reduce the bulk of this volume, I have omitted all variants ;
>> the best alternative readings, however, will be given with my own
>> commentary-in the volume to follow.
>> Dharmanand's Visuddhimagga edition has been transcribed and published as
>> a web document
>> <http://dharmanandkosambi.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=126&Itemid=144>
>> .
>>
>> So there are *three* editions of the Visuddhimagga published between
>> 1920 and 1950, with entangled editorial histories:
>>
>>    1. Caroline Rhys Davids, 1920, based on 4 printed editions
>>    2. Dharmanand Kosambi, 1940, based on 4 MSS and 2 editions
>>    3. Henry Clark Warren, 1950, based on 4 MSS
>>    Warren died in 1899, leaving his edition almost complete.  Kosambi
>>    was invited by Lanman to bring it to a publishable state, which he and
>>    Lanman did together, completing that between 1910 and 1911. Nothing then
>>    happened for fifteen years.  Then Lanman and Kosambi settled some dispute,
>>    and Kosambi saw the work through the press in 1926-1927.  But the work
>>    remained unpublished until 1950 [Preface
>>    <http://dharmanandkosambi.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=160&Itemid=266>
>>    ].
>>
>> Warren's actual editorial work on the text preceded that of both the
>> others.  But it was only published after their editions.
>>
>> For his 1940 edition, begun in 1909, Kosambi used the same MSS as Warren
>> had used 40 years earlier.  Two of these MSS were personally procured by
>> Warren from England, by correspondence with Thomas Rhys Davids and with Dr
>> Richard Morris [as Lanman says <http://www.jstor.org/stable/592341?seq=4>],
>> and a third was personally lent by Henry Rigg.  Did Kosambi really,
>> separately, gain access to the very same privately-owned MSS?  Or were they
>> still in Cambridge MA when he worked  there after Warren's death?  Or did
>> Kosambi use Warren's unpublished text in constituting his own edition.  It
>> is hard to imagine that he would not do so, since the work was done and lay
>> there before him.
>>
>> I should mention that for all these editors it was a matter of importance
>> that their editions were produced in this or that script.  Caroline Rhys
>> Davids' edition was mainly undertaken in order to produce a Roman-alphabet
>> version of the pre-existing Burmese- and Ceylonese-script editions.  She
>> showed little engagement with actual text-critical tasks.  Warren was
>> engaged with both text-criticism and with the idea of transliteration.
>> Warren's edition prints MS readings.  Kosambi also cared about script,
>> producing his edition in Devanagari, thus intending specifically to reach a
>> readership in India.  Kosambi also engaged in text-critical tasks to the
>> extent that he applied Paninian grammatical thinking to the construal of
>> the text, especially in matters of sandhi.  But Kosambi omitted to print
>> any variants from the manuscripts, which means that his edition cannot be
>> used as a critical edition, since he denies the reader the opportunity to
>> think critically about his editorial choices and their alternatives.
>>
>> ?Best,
>> Dominik?
>>
>> --
>> The secondary literature
>> <http://books.google.at/books?id=q1XoNhUrP1MC&lpg=PA180&dq=dharmanand%20kosambi%20visuddhimagga&pg=PA180#v=onepage&q=dharmanand%20kosambi%20visuddhimagga&f=false>
>> contains references to an edition of the Visuddhimagga by Dharmanand
>> Kosambi (and not Warren) published by OUP in London in 1950.  I think this
>> is probably just an error.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>> http://listinfo.indology.info
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> *Herman TullPrinceton, NJ *
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From dipak.d2004 at gmail.com  Fri Nov 14 06:10:21 2014
From: dipak.d2004 at gmail.com (Dipak Bhattacharya)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 14 11:40:21 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Visuddhimagga
In-Reply-To: <CAKdt-Cehg6=r9aCKg5DkOTsj==t20=o0BPvoxL8mEGTSNUFL2g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABEB9qK1mzWRMZ4D0rnY+mANvLVMddiyEj42ft40A6UNG1Zicw@mail.gmail.com>

Was not the father Dharmanand Dattatreya Kosambi?
DB

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Dominik Wujastyk <wujastyk at gmail.com>
wrote:

> There's a new wrinkle on the editing history of the Visuddhimagga, not
> mentioned in Steve Collins' article, but kindly brought to my attention by
> Christophe Vielle (thanks!).
>
> Dharmanand Damodar Kosambi (not to be confused with his son Damodar
> Dharmanand Kosambi) worked on Warren's edition of the Visuddhimagga.
> Dharmanand's work was finished in 1911, but the book took until 1950 to
> appear.
>
> Meanwhile, Dharmanand went back to India, and in 1940 he published in
> Bombay an edition of the Visuddhimagga
> <http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/55562616> in his own name, work that he had
> begun in 1909. It was based on the same manuscripts as Warren's work, plus
> reference to two printed editions from SE Asia, perhaps the same as those
> used by Caroline Rhys Davids.  Dharmanand said, in his Preface,
> The sources used for the present edition are primarily the same as those
> employed for the Harvard edition, consisting of four excellent manuscripts:
> two Burmese, two Singhalese.  In addition, I have used one printed edition
> in Burmese and one in Siamese Characters ; while generally not so good as
> the first of the Burmese manuscripts, these contain an occasional superior
> reading. To reduce the bulk of this volume, I have omitted all variants ;
> the best alternative readings, however, will be given with my own
> commentary-in the volume to follow.
> Dharmanand's Visuddhimagga edition has been transcribed and published as
> a web document
> <http://dharmanandkosambi.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=126&Itemid=144>
> .
>
> So there are *three* editions of the Visuddhimagga published between 1920
> and 1950, with entangled editorial histories:
>
>    1. Caroline Rhys Davids, 1920, based on 4 printed editions
>    2. Dharmanand Kosambi, 1940, based on 4 MSS and 2 editions
>    3. Henry Clark Warren, 1950, based on 4 MSS
>    Warren died in 1899, leaving his edition almost complete.  Kosambi was
>    invited by Lanman to bring it to a publishable state, which he and Lanman
>    did together, completing that between 1910 and 1911. Nothing then happened
>    for fifteen years.  Then Lanman and Kosambi settled some dispute, and
>    Kosambi saw the work through the press in 1926-1927.  But the work remained
>    unpublished until 1950 [Preface
>    <http://dharmanandkosambi.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=160&Itemid=266>
>    ].
>
> Warren's actual editorial work on the text preceded that of both the
> others.  But it was only published after their editions.
>
> For his 1940 edition, begun in 1909, Kosambi used the same MSS as Warren
> had used 40 years earlier.  Two of these MSS were personally procured by
> Warren from England, by correspondence with Thomas Rhys Davids and with Dr
> Richard Morris [as Lanman says <http://www.jstor.org/stable/592341?seq=4>],
> and a third was personally lent by Henry Rigg.  Did Kosambi really,
> separately, gain access to the very same privately-owned MSS?  Or were they
> still in Cambridge MA when he worked  there after Warren's death?  Or did
> Kosambi use Warren's unpublished text in constituting his own edition.  It
> is hard to imagine that he would not do so, since the work was done and lay
> there before him.
>
> I should mention that for all these editors it was a matter of importance
> that their editions were produced in this or that script.  Caroline Rhys
> Davids' edition was mainly undertaken in order to produce a Roman-alphabet
> version of the pre-existing Burmese- and Ceylonese-script editions.  She
> showed little engagement with actual text-critical tasks.  Warren was
> engaged with both text-criticism and with the idea of transliteration.
> Warren's edition prints MS readings.  Kosambi also cared about script,
> producing his edition in Devanagari, thus intending specifically to reach a
> readership in India.  Kosambi also engaged in text-critical tasks to the
> extent that he applied Paninian grammatical thinking to the construal of
> the text, especially in matters of sandhi.  But Kosambi omitted to print
> any variants from the manuscripts, which means that his edition cannot be
> used as a critical edition, since he denies the reader the opportunity to
> think critically about his editorial choices and their alternatives.
>
> ?Best,
> Dominik?
>
> --
> The secondary literature
> <http://books.google.at/books?id=q1XoNhUrP1MC&lpg=PA180&dq=dharmanand%20kosambi%20visuddhimagga&pg=PA180#v=onepage&q=dharmanand%20kosambi%20visuddhimagga&f=false>
> contains references to an edition of the Visuddhimagga by Dharmanand
> Kosambi (and not Warren) published by OUP in London in 1950.  I think this
> is probably just an error.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
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From christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be  Fri Nov 14 16:42:24 2014
From: christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be (Christophe Vielle)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 14 17:42:24 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Bagchi, Le canon bouddhique en Chine
Message-ID: <8E66DD12-200B-4286-976E-319E2F46B643@uclouvain.be>

Dear list,
I take the opportunity to transfer to someone else the digital copy in .pdf (unfortunately without ocr) of Prabodh Chandra BAGCHI, Le canon bouddhique en Chine: les traducteurs et les traductions, 2 vols, Paris: Paul Geuthner, 1927-1938 (Sino-Indica series, no. 1, 4) for sharing the temporary link:
http://demo.ovh.eu/fr/dc635af4776f8fd5ecc1a3ab08ca1202/ 
(it seems not available on usual depositories)
Best wishes
???????????????????
Christophe Vielle
Louvain-la-Neuve



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From hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com  Sat Nov 15 16:08:47 2014
From: hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com (Harry Spier)
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 14 11:08:47 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] New e-texts in the Muktabodha Digital Library
Message-ID: <CAPW7aQFMi_hdf_v_CBYJHcx0oGhwiGwB0QjGntAV44rAGa3m3w@mail.gmail.com>

Dear list members,

Muktabodha is pleased to announce that 13 new searchable e-texts have been
added to our digital library.  Eight of these are from unedited manuscripts
from the NGMCP project.  There are on-line descriptive notes for these
below the links to the manuscripts.   The remaining five texts are from
previously printed editions.

Harry Spier
Manager, Muktabodha Digital Library
The title list is:

1. The Bhuvane?var?mah?stotra by P?thav?dhar?c?rya with a commentary by
Kavi Padman?bha edited by Gopal Narayan Bahura

2. The P?ncar?trarak?? by Ved?nta ?e?ika edited by M. Duraisw?my Aiyang?r
and T. Venugop?lac?rya

3. The Dev?rahasya and Uddh?rako?a edited by R?macandra K?ka and Haribha??a
??str?.

4. The A?e?akulavallar? is by Ga?anan?thabha??a from NGMCP Manuscript No. :
5-4656 Reel No. : A 175/11

5. Unnamed text from last part of a manuscript that begins with
A?e?akulavallar? called Par?kramapuj? by Mark S.G. Dyczkowski from NGMCP
Manuscript No. : 5-4656 Reel No. : A 175/11.

6. Saubh?gyatara?gi?? by Mukunda from part of NGMCP Manuscript No. : 5-4656
Reel No. : A 175/11

7. Tro?al?tantra from NGMCP Manuscript No. : 5- 4852 Reel No. : B 126/9

8. Mok?asop?na by K???advay?t?tayog? with commentary from NGMCP manuscript
No. 1-1397 Reel No. A-179/8

9. Nity?kaulatantra from NGMCP Manuscript No. 2-226 Reel No. B26/21a

10. First 30 chapters of the Tantracint?ma?i by Navam?si?ha with the
commentary pa?jik? from NGMCP Manuscript No. : 4-1665 Reel No. : B 131/2
(the final 10 chapters to be put up in the near future).

11. V?r?h?tantra from NGMCP manuscript no.: 3-315 Reel No. : B 144/9 .

12. Carc?stava edited by Harabhatta ?astr?

13. Laghustava edited by Harabhatta ?astr?


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From hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com  Sat Nov 15 16:18:17 2014
From: hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com (Harry Spier)
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 14 11:18:17 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] New e-texts in the Muktabodha Digital Library
In-Reply-To: <CAPW7aQFMi_hdf_v_CBYJHcx0oGhwiGwB0QjGntAV44rAGa3m3w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPW7aQEU2qNshUrBc7ybuSamhgS55kQWitDSEqC-1Ba5OTpTnA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear list members,

I forgot to mention that the descriptive notes to the manuscripts are by
Dr. Mark S.G. Dyczkowski and that the link to the Muktabodha website  is
www.muktabodha.org

Harry Spier
Manager, Muktabodha Digital Library

On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Harry Spier <hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear list members,
>
> Muktabodha is pleased to announce that 13 new searchable e-texts have been
> added to our digital library.  Eight of these are from unedited manuscripts
> from the NGMCP project.  There are on-line descriptive notes for these
> below the links to the manuscripts.   The remaining five texts are from
> previously printed editions.
>
> Harry Spier
> Manager, Muktabodha Digital Library
> The title list is:
>
> 1. The Bhuvane?var?mah?stotra by P?thav?dhar?c?rya with a commentary by
> Kavi Padman?bha edited by Gopal Narayan Bahura
>
> 2. The P?ncar?trarak?? by Ved?nta ?e?ika edited by M. Duraisw?my Aiyang?r
> and T. Venugop?lac?rya
>
> 3. The Dev?rahasya and Uddh?rako?a edited by R?macandra K?ka and
> Haribha??a ??str?.
>
> 4. The A?e?akulavallar? is by Ga?anan?thabha??a from NGMCP Manuscript No.
> : 5-4656 Reel No. : A 175/11
>
> 5. Unnamed text from last part of a manuscript that begins with
> A?e?akulavallar? called Par?kramapuj? by Mark S.G. Dyczkowski from NGMCP
> Manuscript No. : 5-4656 Reel No. : A 175/11.
>
> 6. Saubh?gyatara?gi?? by Mukunda from part of NGMCP Manuscript No. :
> 5-4656 Reel No. : A 175/11
>
> 7. Tro?al?tantra from NGMCP Manuscript No. : 5- 4852 Reel No. : B 126/9
>
> 8. Mok?asop?na by K???advay?t?tayog? with commentary from NGMCP manuscript
> No. 1-1397 Reel No. A-179/8
>
> 9. Nity?kaulatantra from NGMCP Manuscript No. 2-226 Reel No. B26/21a
>
> 10. First 30 chapters of the Tantracint?ma?i by Navam?si?ha with the
> commentary pa?jik? from NGMCP Manuscript No. : 4-1665 Reel No. : B 131/2
> (the final 10 chapters to be put up in the near future).
>
> 11. V?r?h?tantra from NGMCP manuscript no.: 3-315 Reel No. : B 144/9 .
>
> 12. Carc?stava edited by Harabhatta ?astr?
>
> 13. Laghustava edited by Harabhatta ?astr?
>
>
>
>


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From shrinsaha at gmail.com  Mon Nov 17 17:53:17 2014
From: shrinsaha at gmail.com (Niranjan Saha)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 14 23:23:17 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] References to Critics of Sankara's Gita Commentary
Message-ID: <CAHuz+Cony-85hw_pquMt0ZDGGDnhGvOGEpvtOmKGxq+3BB+_bw@mail.gmail.com>

Dear List,

For handy/ readymade reference, could any body help me find out
places/verses where critics like Ramanuja, Madhva, Bhaskara
(Anandavardhana, Ramakantha, Rajanaka, Abhinavagupta) have criticised
Sankara in explicit/implicit terms in their respective Gita commentaries?


I'll also appreciate to know if any other ancient commentators (barring the
abovementioned commentators) of the Gita have criticised Samkara
explicitly/implicitly in their respective commentaries on the Gita.


With best regards,
Niranjan Saha


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From dchakra at hotmail.de  Tue Nov 18 07:39:00 2014
From: dchakra at hotmail.de (Dr. Debabrata Chakrabarti)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 14 13:09:00 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Rudrahridayopanishad!
Message-ID: <BAY179-W7807E0000C864D7EE96832D9880@phx.gbl>

Dear List Members,I shall be obliged to anybody who could provide me with a pdf of Rudrahridayopanishad!RegardsDebabrata Chakrabarti





?This body
is like a musical instrument; what you hear depends upon how you play it.? ?
Anandamayi Ma 

?Inside
every human being there exists a special heaven, whole and unbroken.? -
Paracelsus





 		 	   		  


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From manufrancis at gmail.com  Tue Nov 18 12:12:11 2014
From: manufrancis at gmail.com (Manu Francis)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 14 13:12:11 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Call for contributions "The Archaeology of Bhakti"	August 2015
Message-ID: <CANVHsm6eAviRTuDnER8NyGKQy4dfMn2qFW-+F3WLd9Jfr+wn4Q@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Colleagues,

Please find at the following link the call for contributions for the third
workshop in the series The Archaeology of Bhakti, coorganised by Val?rie
Gillet (EFEO, Pondicherry), Charlotte Schmid (EFEO, Paris) and E. Francis
(CEIAS, EHESS & CNRS, Paris).

http://rcsi.hypotheses.org/721

It will take place at the centre of the EFEO in Pondicherry from the 3rd to
14th August 2015.

This year?s theme is ?The Bhakti of Minor Dynasties.?

With very best wishes.

--

Emmanuel Francis
Charg? de recherche CNRS, Centre d'?tude de l'Inde et de l'Asie du Sud (UMR
8564, EHESS-CNRS, Paris)
http://ceias.ehess.fr/
http://ceias.ehess.fr/index.php?1725
http://rcsi.hypotheses.org/
Associate member, Centre for the Study of Manuscript Culture (SFB 950,
Universit?t Hamburg)
http://www.manuscript-cultures.uni-hamburg.de/index_e.html
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From jean-luc.chevillard at univ-paris-diderot.fr  Wed Nov 19 09:05:11 2014
From: jean-luc.chevillard at univ-paris-diderot.fr (Jean-Luc CHEVILLARD)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 14 10:05:11 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] NEW PUBLICATION: Manuscript, Print and Memory - Relics of the Cankam in TamilnaduManuscript, Print and Memory - Relics of the Cankam in Tamilnadu
Message-ID: <web-146136798@univ-paris7.fr>

A book by Eva WILDEN
(EFEO [Pondicherry] & CSMC [Hamburg])
tracing the complex historical process
of the transmission over some 2000 years
of the ca&#7749;kam (caGkam) corpus has just appeared
in the series "Studies in Manuscript Cultures"
published by De Gruyter.

LINK: "http://www.degruyter.com/view/product/246341"&#65279;


TITLE:
Manuscript, Print and Memory - Relics of the Cankam in Tamilnadu

Publication Date: November 2014

ISBN: 978-3-11-035276-4

AIMS AND SCOPE:

The ancient Tamil poetic corpus of the Ca&#7749;kam ("The Academy") is 
a national treasure for Tamilians and a battle-ground for linguists 
and historians of politics, culture and literature. Going back to oral 
predecessors probably dating back to the beginning of the first 
millennium, it has had an extremely rich and variegated history. 
Collected into anthologies and endowed with literary theories and 
voluminous commentaries, it became the centre-piece of the Tamil 
literary canon, associated with the royal court of the Pandya dynasty 
in Madurai. Its decline began in the late middle ages, and by the late 
17th century it had fallen into near oblivion, before being 
rediscovered at the beginning of the print era. The present study 
traces the complex historical process of its transmission over some 
2000 years, using and documenting a wide range of sources, in 
particular surviving manuscripts, the early prints, the commentaries 
of the literary and grammatical traditions and a vast range of later 
literature that creates a web of inter-textual references and 
quotations.




-- Jean-Luc Chevillard (CNRS [htl], Paris)





From birendra176 at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 19 09:24:38 2014
From: birendra176 at yahoo.com (Birendra Nath Prasad)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 14 01:24:38 -0800
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Member's publication on late Indian Buddhism
Message-ID: <1416389078.7395.YahooMailBasic@web121901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Dear Colleagues, 
I am happy to announce the publication of research paper titled ?The Socio-Religious Dimensions of Dedicatory Inscriptions on Sculptures Donated to a Buddhist Establishment in Early Medieval Magadha: Kurkihar , c.800 -1200 CE? in the Journal of Oxford Centre for Buddhist Studies , Vol.7 ,  pp.116-152.  You may find it online at http://www.ocbs.org/ojs/index.php/jocbs/issue/view/9/showToc .
With regards
Birendra Nath Prasad 
Asstt. Professor , History Deptt.
BB Ambedkar University , Lucknow 
India 
bp2628 at yahoo.com 






From rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk  Wed Nov 19 19:23:38 2014
From: rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk (Rohana Seneviratne)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 14 19:23:38 +0000
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_Vasanta_Tryambaka_S=CC=81evad=CC=A3e_and_Brahma=CC=84nanda_Tripa=CC=84t=CC=A3hi=CC=84?=
Message-ID: <263AADEB1C61774CB059F93BD3A6940B13CD85@MBX06.ad.oak.ox.ac.uk>

Dear List members,


I am gleaning information on these two Sanskrit writers.

Vasanta Tryambaka S?evad?e (1917 - )
http://www.worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n85337685/

Brahma?nanda Tripa?t?hi? (1932 - )
http://www.worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n88110544/


Vasanta S?evad?e is a commentator and a poet who has written a few mah?k?vyas, while Brahma?nanda Tripa?t?hi? has edited a number of works by S?evad?e. I do not know if S?evad?e is still with us but I believe that some of you might know more about Brahma?nanda Tripa?t?hi? than what the Internet tells us. I will be very much thankful if anybody could let me know any piece of information regarding them, their disciples/ successors or relatives.

Thank you very much in advance.


Best Wishes,
Rohana
------------------------------------------------
Rohana Seneviratne
DPhil Student in Sanskrit
The Oriental Institute
Faculty of Oriental Studies
University of Oxford
Pusey Lane, Oxford
OX1 2LE
United Kingdom

Email: rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk
Web: http://users.ox.ac.uk/~pemb3753/


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From ashok.aklujkar at gmail.com  Wed Nov 19 23:35:54 2014
From: ashok.aklujkar at gmail.com (Ashok Aklujkar)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 14 15:35:54 -0800
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Vasanta_Tryambaka_S=CC=81evad=CC=A3e_and_Brahma=CC=84nanda_Tripa=CC=84t=CC=A3hi=CC=84?=
In-Reply-To: <263AADEB1C61774CB059F93BD3A6940B13CD85@MBX06.ad.oak.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <7C7BAFA8-3DA2-40EF-869C-CC69150A8B4D@mail.ubc.ca>

See:
Upadhyaya, Ramji/Ramaji. Adhunika Samskrta naataka. (Hindi)
Varnekara/Warnekara, S.B. 1963. Arvaciina Sa.smk.rta saahitya (Marathi)
 Sam?skr?ta va?n?maya kos?a / sampa?daka S?ri?dhara Bha?skara Varn?ekara. Kalakatta? : Bha?rati?ya Bha?sha? Parishada, 1988.


See also the surveys of modern Skt literature written by V. Raghavan for the Sahitya Akademi, New Delhi, roughly from 1960-1974.


Since I am traveling, I do not have these books at hand to give page references, but they should have something more than what the Internet tells you.

a.a.


On Nov 19, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Rohana Seneviratne <rohana.seneviratne at ORINST.OX.AC.UK> wrote:

> 
> I am gleaning information on these two Sanskrit writers. 
> 
> Vasanta Tryambaka S?evad?e (1917 - ) 
> http://www.worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n85337685/
> 
> Brahma?nanda Tripa?t?hi? (1932 - )
> http://www.worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n88110544/
> 
> 
> Vasanta S?evad?e is a commentator and a poet who has written a few mah?k?vyas, while Brahma?nanda Tripa?t?hi? has edited a number of works by S?evad?e. I do not know if S?evad?e is still with us but I believe that some of you might know more about Brahma?nanda Tripa?t?hi? than what the Internet tells us. I will be very much thankful if anybody could let me know any piece of information regarding them, their disciples/ successors or relatives. 
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From diwakar.acharya at bun.kyoto-u.ac.jp  Thu Nov 20 00:38:49 2014
From: diwakar.acharya at bun.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Diwakar ACHARYA)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 14 09:38:49 +0900
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Medieval Investigations 2015 (for those interested in Medieval Nepal, 880-1769 AD)
In-Reply-To: <7C7BAFA8-3DA2-40EF-869C-CC69150A8B4D@mail.ubc.ca>
Message-ID: <1416443929584724.427286767@mail02>

Call for papers for a workshop on Medieval History of Nepal

Medieval Investigations 2015 is a Martin Chautari initiative to establish the significance of the medieval period (880 ? 1769 AD; 937 ? 1826 VS; 1-889 NS) in the historiography of Nepal. It has been organized to challenge, through the findings of the most recent academic research, existing perspectives on medieval history. The workshop in Kathmandu will see experts and students engaged and interested in medieval research coming together, presenting and discussing sources, methods, techniques, arguments and theories on the medieval. The papers presented at the workshop, in a revised form, will be published either under the MC book series or by other reputable publisher.

Important Information
Abstract Submissions               : 15 December 2014
Full length paper submissions      : 14 March 2015
Workshop Venue                     : Kathmandu
Workshop dates                     : 27-28 May 2015


Further details is available at: http://martinchautari.org.np/files/medieval_history_conference_Nepal-2015Eng.pdf



*********************
Diwakar Acharya
Associate Professor
Graduate School of Letters
Kyoto University
Yoshida Honmachi, Sakyo-ku
Kyoto 606-8501, Japan
Tel.: +81 75 753 2803 





From zysk at hum.ku.dk  Thu Nov 20 07:01:55 2014
From: zysk at hum.ku.dk (Kenneth Gregory Zysk)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 14 07:01:55 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Hathayogapradipika 1.38
Message-ID: <D08C2A94323FEC4D8F5E930CABEF2FDD3F7CC611@exmbx1.hum2005.hum.ku.dk>


This comes as a request from a student. Any help would be most appreciated:

My question concerns  the Ha?hyogaprad?pik? 1.38 which states:

The Siddhas know that as among yamas a moderate diet is the most important, and among niyamas, harmlessness (ahi?s?), so among all the ?sanas is the siddh?sana.

In 1.16 ? of what is presumably an appended part ? we are taught that ahi?s? pertains to the yamas; so why this obvious inconsistency? Is there any scriptural precedence to this case, where ahi?s? can be found within the niyamas?


Kenneth Zysk, PhD, DPhil
Head of Indology
Department of Cross-Cultural and Regional Studies
University of Copenhagen
Karen Blixens Vej 4, Bygn. 10,
DK-2300 Copenhagen S    Denmark
Ph:  +45 3532 8951                      Email: zysk at hum.ku.dk<mailto:zysk at hum.ku.dk>





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From arlogriffiths at hotmail.com  Thu Nov 20 07:52:16 2014
From: arlogriffiths at hotmail.com (Arlo Griffiths)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 14 07:52:16 +0000
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_L=C3=A9vi_(1923,_1925)?=
Message-ID: <DUB114-W1063AF3CAD9A5F02676DEC0A5760@phx.gbl>

Dear colleagues,

Would anyone be able to furnish a pdf of the original French version of the following:


  L?vi, Sylvain. 1929. ?Pre-Aryan and Pre-Dravidian in India.? In Pre-Aryan and Pre-Dravidian in India, by Sylvain L?vi, Jean Przyluski, and Jules Bloch, translated by Prabodh Chandra Bagchi, 61?126. Calcutta: University of Calcutta.
  

It should be available in Journal Asiatique, t. 203, 1923, pp. 1-57, but this volume does not appear to be available on Gallica.

If somebody could furnish "Ptolem?e, le Niddesa et la B?hatkath?", from ?tudes Asiatiques II, Paris 1925, pp. 1-55, I shall also be grateful.

Thank you.

Best wishes,

Arlo Griffiths
EFEO/Jakarta
 		 	   		  


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From wujastyk at gmail.com  Thu Nov 20 11:42:59 2014
From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 14 12:42:59 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Helping each other
Message-ID: <CAKdt-CdBGWH=xKVFf5q=WkVc6Q+QeAfX3xYkpv3jdTw-FDi2Ag@mail.gmail.com>

Dear colleagues,

Ten years ago, we were asking each other for fonts.  Today, we're more
often asking each other for PDFs.  Many of us, including myself, have found
the members of this forum wonderfully helpful in swapping books and
articles.  It's great.  But maybe we can go an extra mile.

I was just reading a blog
<http://juretriglav.si/standards-for-graphic-presentation/> about improving
the display of information in graphs and diagrams.  The author, Jure
Triglav, has discovered some important forgotten standards from the early
twentieth century that richly deserve to be revived and put into practice
by authors and publishers.  Never mind that.  But at one point, Triglav
says,

> What can we do next?
>
> As a first step, we should *bring this historic knowledge back to life*.
> Find copies of the reports and digitize them, upload them to archive.org
> so that they may never disappear again.
>
Reading this confirmed my own instinct that this is a useful thing to do.
I have for some time, and very slowly, been uploading important indological
books to archive.org.  I've uploaded Gode's Literature/Culture series,
Kane's History of Dharmasastra (1st ed), and several other foundational
texts.  Others have uploaded the entire Anandashrama Sanskrit Series, the
entire Trivandrum Sanskrit Series, and there's much more besides.

So, I would encourage all indologists to think of archive.org as a place
for depositing digitized texts of important indological works.

There are some details worth considering, in no particular order:

   - First, only upload out-of-copyright works.  Otherwise we'll create
   difficulties in the future.
   - Second, the interface for uploading files at archive.org is quite
   annoying, at least for Linux users.  We could petition archive.org to
   improve this.
   - Third, metadata is really vital.  If you're uploading a text, provide
   a proper bibliographical entry for the work.  Cut and paste from your own
   bibliography, or from a book, or whatever.  But make sure the description
   is spelled correctly.  If you have the energy, add a link to worldcat.org
   or openlibrary.org (and vice versa for openlibrary).
   - I'm not sure about this, but I think it's useful to keep the "title"
   short.  Archive.org seems to use the title for constructing the URL string
   that will call up the book.  These URLs will increasingly be used for
   reference.  It's helpful if they are not extremely long.  So, if a book has
   one of those 18th century "a true and veritable account of a journey in
   search of ..." titles, make the main "title" entry just a short title, and
   put the full text of the title somewhere else.  In a note field, perhaps.

When indological colleagues request a PDF that you have, it's much more
farsighted to upload the work to archive.org and provide the forum with a
link to that copy, than just to offer it through dropbox or as an email
attachment.  If we use archive.org, we're meeting a present need, but at
the same time building a permanent resource for the future rather than
merely.

Finally, please don't let my comments stop you swapping private links and
PDFs if that's all you have time to do!  Done is Better Than Perfect.

Best,

Dominik


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From james.hartzell at gmail.com  Thu Nov 20 12:55:07 2014
From: james.hartzell at gmail.com (James Hartzell)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 14 13:55:07 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Helping each other
In-Reply-To: <CAKdt-CdBGWH=xKVFf5q=WkVc6Q+QeAfX3xYkpv3jdTw-FDi2Ag@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKA8X42bx9s+jir1SRvnyqjx9wSojRQzOLASz7WgJKLVGhi5Yw@mail.gmail.com>

Just a comment on Dominik's far-sighted remarks.

When I was a student at Harvard, one of the very best things about being
there was the amazing library;  I could find pretty much anything in there.
When i was at Columbia, the library was almost as good, except that
frequently key volumes were missing, since there were no locks on the
windows out onto the street and evidently over the years some wiley
students had tossed out books to their friends;  but with Interlibrary loan
I could fill the gaps.

The more texts that are uploaded to archive.org, the closer we (gradually)
move to a global electronic library with everything one needs for research.

Cheers


On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Dominik Wujastyk <wujastyk at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear colleagues,
>
> Ten years ago, we were asking each other for fonts.  Today, we're more
> often asking each other for PDFs.  Many of us, including myself, have found
> the members of this forum wonderfully helpful in swapping books and
> articles.  It's great.  But maybe we can go an extra mile.
>
> I was just reading a blog
> <http://juretriglav.si/standards-for-graphic-presentation/> about
> improving the display of information in graphs and diagrams.  The author,
> Jure Triglav, has discovered some important forgotten standards from the
> early twentieth century that richly deserve to be revived and put into
> practice by authors and publishers.  Never mind that.  But at one point,
> Triglav says,
>
>> What can we do next?
>>
>> As a first step, we should *bring this historic knowledge back to life*.
>> Find copies of the reports and digitize them, upload them to archive.org
>> so that they may never disappear again.
>>
> Reading this confirmed my own instinct that this is a useful thing to do.
> I have for some time, and very slowly, been uploading important indological
> books to archive.org.  I've uploaded Gode's Literature/Culture series,
> Kane's History of Dharmasastra (1st ed), and several other foundational
> texts.  Others have uploaded the entire Anandashrama Sanskrit Series, the
> entire Trivandrum Sanskrit Series, and there's much more besides.
>
> So, I would encourage all indologists to think of archive.org as a place
> for depositing digitized texts of important indological works.
>
> There are some details worth considering, in no particular order:
>
>    - First, only upload out-of-copyright works.  Otherwise we'll create
>    difficulties in the future.
>    - Second, the interface for uploading files at archive.org is quite
>    annoying, at least for Linux users.  We could petition archive.org to
>    improve this.
>    - Third, metadata is really vital.  If you're uploading a text,
>    provide a proper bibliographical entry for the work.  Cut and paste from
>    your own bibliography, or from a book, or whatever.  But make sure the
>    description is spelled correctly.  If you have the energy, add a link to
>    worldcat.org or openlibrary.org (and vice versa for openlibrary).
>    - I'm not sure about this, but I think it's useful to keep the "title"
>    short.  Archive.org seems to use the title for constructing the URL string
>    that will call up the book.  These URLs will increasingly be used for
>    reference.  It's helpful if they are not extremely long.  So, if a book has
>    one of those 18th century "a true and veritable account of a journey in
>    search of ..." titles, make the main "title" entry just a short title, and
>    put the full text of the title somewhere else.  In a note field, perhaps.
>
> When indological colleagues request a PDF that you have, it's much more
> farsighted to upload the work to archive.org and provide the forum with a
> link to that copy, than just to offer it through dropbox or as an email
> attachment.  If we use archive.org, we're meeting a present need, but at
> the same time building a permanent resource for the future rather than
> merely.
>
> Finally, please don't let my comments stop you swapping private links and
> PDFs if that's all you have time to do!  Done is Better Than Perfect.
>
> Best,
>
> Dominik
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
>



-- 
James Hartzell, PhD
Center for Mind/Brain Sciences (CIMeC)
The University of Trento, Italy


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From arlogriffiths at hotmail.com  Thu Nov 20 14:21:37 2014
From: arlogriffiths at hotmail.com (Arlo Griffiths)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 14 14:21:37 +0000
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_L=C3=A9vi_(1923,_1925)?=
In-Reply-To: <DUB114-W1063AF3CAD9A5F02676DEC0A5760@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <DUB114-W45274180F3EC79FF2190DBA5760@phx.gbl>

Dear colleagues,

Thanks to Stefan Baums and Reinhold Gr?nendahl, I now have the requested papers (and more). I will heed Dominik's advice and upload them to Archive.org tomorrow, then send the links to the list.

Best wishes,

Arlo Griffiths
EFEO/Jakarta

From: arlogriffiths at hotmail.com
To: indology at list.indology.info
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 07:52:16 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] L?vi (1923, 1925)




Dear colleagues,

Would anyone be able to furnish a pdf of the original French version of the following:


  L?vi, Sylvain. 1929. ?Pre-Aryan and Pre-Dravidian in India.? In Pre-Aryan and Pre-Dravidian in India, by Sylvain L?vi, Jean Przyluski, and Jules Bloch, translated by Prabodh Chandra Bagchi, 61?126. Calcutta: University of Calcutta.
  

It should be available in Journal Asiatique, t. 203, 1923, pp. 1-57, but this volume does not appear to be available on Gallica.

If somebody could furnish "Ptolem?e, le Niddesa et la B?hatkath?", from ?tudes Asiatiques II, Paris 1925, pp. 1-55, I shall also be grateful.

Thank you.

Best wishes,

Arlo Griffiths
EFEO/Jakarta
 		 	   		  

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From wujastyk at gmail.com  Thu Nov 20 15:02:43 2014
From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 14 16:02:43 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Hathayogapradipika 1.38
In-Reply-To: <D08C2A94323FEC4D8F5E930CABEF2FDD3F7CC611@exmbx1.hum2005.hum.ku.dk>
Message-ID: <CAKdt-Ce2cgEwZFDRVwp=ascJDoiY2L5QTJB5P-8-bxiO+GWPnQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, Ken,

As I'm sure you know, in the classic P?ta?jalayoga??stra of Pata?jali,
s?tra 2.30 lists five yamas, beginning with ahi?s?.  I don't know the
Ha?hayogaprad?pik? well, but Sv?tm?r?ma (or whoever) gives 10 yamas in the
addendum to 1.16 (or 1.17 in my 1972 Adyar Library ed.). So even if ahi?s?
is a yama there, as in PY?, there's already a willingness to depart from
the classic list of yamas, doubling its size.   Another item has crossed
list in 1.17; thus ?auca is a niyama in the PY? but has become a yama in
the HYP.  I'd guess that the yama/niyama (commitment/obligation)
distinction wasn't that well-defined by Sv?tm?r?ma's time.

As an aside, Buddhaghosa works with five Niyamas (or niy?mas).

In the Milindapa?ha, niyamas are mostly paired with sa?yamas (not yamas).
The lists overlap with Pata?jali. I haven't looked at this closely.

Best,
Dominik


On 20 November 2014 08:01, Kenneth Gregory Zysk <zysk at hum.ku.dk> wrote:

>
> This comes as a request from a student. Any help would be most appreciated:
>
> My question concerns  the *Ha?hyogaprad?pik?* 1.38 which states:
>
> The Siddhas know that as among *yama*s a moderate diet is the most
> important, and among *niyama*s, harmlessness (*ahi?s?*), so among all the
> *?sana*s is the *siddh?sana*.
>
> In 1.16 ? of what is presumably an appended part ? we are taught that *ahi?s?
> *pertains to the *yama*s; so why this obvious inconsistency? Is there any
> scriptural precedence to this case, where *ahi?s? *can be found within
> the *niyama*s?
>
>
> Kenneth Zysk, PhD, DPhil
> Head of Indology
> Department of Cross-Cultural and Regional Studies
> University of Copenhagen
> Karen Blixens Vej 4, Bygn. 10,
> DK-2300 Copenhagen S    Denmark
> Ph:  +45 3532 8951                      Email: *zysk at hum.ku.dk*
> <zysk at hum.ku.dk>
>
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From wujastyk at gmail.com  Thu Nov 20 15:04:43 2014
From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 14 16:04:43 +0100
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_L=C3=A9vi_(1923,_1925)?=
In-Reply-To: <DUB114-W45274180F3EC79FF2190DBA5760@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAKdt-CfUY4K5+rF3=ymxynG3sO5KcWjf15mKHMN_aZAknMe2Kw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, Arlo!  I'm so glad my suggestion has been thought to have merit.

But I know it adds quite some overhead, and I think that swapping documents
is more important, so I don't want this suggestion to slow down people's
helpfulness unduly.

Best,
Dominik

On 20 November 2014 15:21, Arlo Griffiths <arlogriffiths at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Dear colleagues,
>
> Thanks to Stefan Baums and Reinhold Gr?nendahl, I now have the requested
> papers (and more). I will heed Dominik's advice and upload them to
> Archive.org tomorrow, then send the links to the list.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Arlo Griffiths
> EFEO/Jakarta
>
> ------------------------------
> From: arlogriffiths at hotmail.com
> To: indology at list.indology.info
> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 07:52:16 +0000
> Subject: [INDOLOGY] L?vi (1923, 1925)
>
>
> Dear colleagues,
>
> Would anyone be able to furnish a pdf of the original French version of
> the following:
>
> L?vi, Sylvain. 1929. ?Pre-Aryan and Pre-Dravidian in India.? In *Pre-Aryan
> and Pre-Dravidian in India*, by Sylvain L?vi, Jean Przyluski, and Jules
> Bloch, translated by Prabodh Chandra Bagchi, 61?126. Calcutta: University
> of Calcutta.
>
> It should be available in Journal Asiatique, t. 203, 1923, pp. 1-57, but
> this volume does not appear to be available on Gallica.
>
> If somebody could furnish "Ptolem?e, le Niddesa et la B?hatkath?", from
> ?tudes Asiatiques II, Paris 1925, pp. 1-55, I shall also be grateful.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Arlo Griffiths
> EFEO/Jakarta
>
> _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info http://listinfo.indology.info
>
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From letusconnect at hotmail.com  Thu Nov 20 18:05:07 2014
From: letusconnect at hotmail.com (Jason Birch)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 14 18:05:07 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Hathayogapradipika 1.38
In-Reply-To: <mailman.49.1416502812.10061.indology_list.indology.info@list.indology.info>
Message-ID: <DUB118-W37B94EE84DCABC50B50445CA760@phx.gbl>

Dear Kenneth Zysk,
In the Datt?treyayoga??stra, there is a verse in which ahi?s? is regarded as a niyama. The Datt?treyayoga??stra was probably written three or four centuries before the Ha?haprad?pik?.
laghv?h?ras tu te?v eko mukhyo bhavati n?pare |ahi?s? niyame?v eko mukhyo bhavati n?pare||33||
In fact, Sv?tm?r?ma borrows other verses from the Datt?treyayoga??stra, so HP 1.38ab may have been inspired by DY? 33.
You are right to say that HP 1.16-17 were appended. In Kaivalyadhama's critical edition, only one of the eleven manuscripts in the apparatus has these verses on yama and niyama. However, they do appear in the four printed editions consulted by the editors. Also, I recall that the version of the text commented on by Brahm?nanda includes the verses on yama/niyama and, presumably, nearly all modern editions have followed this.
Best wishes,
Jason

> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 07:01:55 +0000
> From: Kenneth Gregory Zysk <zysk at hum.ku.dk>
> To: "indology at list.indology.info" <indology at list.indology.info>
> Subject: [INDOLOGY] Hathayogapradipika 1.38
> Message-ID:
> 	<D08C2A94323FEC4D8F5E930CABEF2FDD3F7CC611 at exmbx1.hum2005.hum.ku.dk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> 
> This comes as a request from a student. Any help would be most appreciated:
> 
> My question concerns  the Ha?hyogaprad?pik? 1.38 which states:
> 
> The Siddhas know that as among yamas a moderate diet is the most important, and among niyamas, harmlessness (ahi?s?), so among all the ?sanas is the siddh?sana.
> 
> In 1.16 ? of what is presumably an appended part ? we are taught that ahi?s? pertains to the yamas; so why this obvious inconsistency? Is there any scriptural precedence to this case, where ahi?s? can be found within the niyamas?
> 
> 
> Kenneth Zysk, PhD, DPhil
> Head of Indology
> Department of Cross-Cultural and Regional Studies
> University of Copenhagen
> Karen Blixens Vej 4, Bygn. 10,
> DK-2300 Copenhagen S    Denmark
> Ph:  +45 3532 8951                      Email: zysk at hum.ku.dk<mailto:zysk at hum.ku.dk>
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From ajay.rao at utoronto.ca  Thu Nov 20 18:41:06 2014
From: ajay.rao at utoronto.ca (Ajay Rao)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 14 18:41:06 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Postdoctoral Fellowship at the University of Toronto
Message-ID: <D0939FEC.F920%ajay.rao@utoronto.ca>

Dear friends and colleagues,

We are pleased to announce the following postdoctoral fellowship at the University of Toronto for 2015-16. If you could forward this to anyone who may be interested, we would be extremely grateful.

Thank you,

Ajay Rao
Associate Professor
University of Toronto

?Religious Materiality in the Indian Ocean World, 1300-1800? John E. Sawyer Seminars on the Comparative Study of Cultures
2015-2016 Andrew W. Mellon Visiting Postdoctoral Fellowship
University of Toronto

Program Co-Directors: Karen G. Ruffle (Assistant Professor, Department of Historical Studies and Department for the Study of Religion), Ajay Rao (Associate Professor, Department of Historical Studies and Department for the Study of Religion), Walid Saleh (Associate Professor, Department of Near and Middle Eastern Civilizations, and Department for the Study of Religion), and Nhung Tuyet Tran (Associate Professor, Canada Research Chair in Southeast Asian History, Department of History and Director, Centre for Southeast Asian Studies)

How do material forms of religious culture reveal the historically contingent nature of translocal practices in the Indian Ocean world from 1300 to 1800?  This seminar explores how contact between cultures and the circulation of objects resulted in patterns of decoding, the displacement of implicit ethnographies of the other, equivalence and refraction in terminology and structure, and the formation of transcultural identities. What are objects and what do they do for different communities who rely on them and use them to structure belief and ritual practice? In what ways are religious objects themselves commodities? How do social histories of religious objects transform and how are they transformed by the communities that use them? A focus on religious materiality in the Indian Ocean world transcends the privileging texts and the written word among historians and religious studies scholars. Textual study alone fails to account for the dynamic intra- and inter-religious interactions that were fostered by material practices. We contend that material practices and objects travel in a way that differs from ideas, dogmas, and texts; access to the latter in their untranslated forms is restricted primarily to the elite. Material objects and practices due to their immediacy, on the other hand, reach out to and are shaped by subalterns?including the poor, the illiterate, and women?who have often been occluded from dominant histories.

We invite applications for the Andrew W. Mellon Visiting Postdoctoral Fellowship from junior scholars in all disciplines that relate to the theme of the seminar and will contribute to the work and discussions of the group. During the year, participants will meet every other week as a reading group to analyze key theories, methodologies, and literatures that situate religious materiality squarely in Indian Ocean studies. In addition, a capstone conference in spring 2016 will convene international ?rising voices? to discuss their research, methodology and findings within a community of scholars dedicated to advancing the themes of the Seminar. The applicant's Ph.D. must have been awarded between July 1, 2010 and July 1, 2015. The Fellow will have no teaching responsibilities, providing ample time to pursue a major research project.

The fellowship pays a salary of $50,000 plus benefits, and provides a research fund of $1,500. The Visiting Postdoctoral Fellow will be provided with an office. Please submit a letter of application, research statement, graduate transcripts, two letters of recommendation, and a brief writing sample (maximum 35 pages). To receive full consideration, completed applications must be received by 15 January 2015. Applications will be accepted by electronic submission only; submit applications to: indianocean.world at utoronto.ca




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From hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com  Thu Nov 20 21:59:02 2014
From: hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com (Harry Spier)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 14 16:59:02 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Large Shakta compendium added to Muktabodha Digital	Library
Message-ID: <CAPW7aQH4FdkmUXj=M6Ay3GAHjthAt5fAGPbKb12iBbgd1zy8ew@mail.gmail.com>

Dear list members,

The Kulamuktikallolin? by Navam?si?ha, a large ??kta compendium (NGMCP
Manuscript No. : 1-1675 Reel No. : B 120/6) has now been added to the
Muktabodha Digital Library.

With the addition of this new e-text we now have about 300 searchable
tantric/agamic e-texts (about 750,000 lines in total) in our digital
library.

The vast majority of our searchable e-texts have been data-entered by a
very small team (never more than four people and sometimes as few as two)
in Varanasi under the direction of Mark S.G. Dyczkowski.

Harry Spier
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From arlogriffiths at hotmail.com  Fri Nov 21 04:28:44 2014
From: arlogriffiths at hotmail.com (Arlo Griffiths)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 14 04:28:44 +0000
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_L=C3=A9vi_(1923,_1925)?=
In-Reply-To: <CAKdt-CfUY4K5+rF3=ymxynG3sO5KcWjf15mKHMN_aZAknMe2Kw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DUB114-W2375AA8FF5312B908200A9A5770@phx.gbl>

The pdf files are now online at:

https://archive.org/details/Levi1923PreAryenEtPreDravidien
https://archive.org/details/Levi1925PtolemeeNiddesaBrhatkatha

Those who prefer to read the first in English may find it here: https://archive.org/details/prearyanandpredr035083mbp. (Somebody else furnished that one.)

I can report that the basic uploading process is very quickly done; it is entirely up to the uploader what metadata are filled in, so I have used some of the same descriptors as figure in Zotero. I don't know why some of the metadata get placed in one place in the interface, while other in another.

I also don't know why the pages cannot be read in the online reader (at least not on my side), but I assume at least the pdf files can be downloaded.

It would be nice to have all of L?vi's articles online like this. But it still feels like a bit too much overhead for each of us to engage in randomly, all the more so because I believe that Archive.org does not effectively control against duplicates of works that have already been uploaded. Maybe we could vote on which Indologists deserve most to be honored with attempts at furnishing their entire lists of publications at Archive.org (I suppose focusing on those from whom  a Kleine Schriften or such has never been compiled), and then work in little groups on individual authors?

Best,

Arlo Griffiths

 


From: wujastyk at gmail.com
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 16:04:43 +0100
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] L?vi (1923, 1925)
To: arlogriffiths at hotmail.com
CC: indology at list.indology.info

Thanks, Arlo!  I'm so glad my suggestion has been thought to have merit.

But I know it adds quite some overhead, and I think that swapping documents is more important, so I don't want this suggestion to slow down people's helpfulness unduly.

Best,
Dominik

On 20 November 2014 15:21, Arlo Griffiths <arlogriffiths at hotmail.com> wrote:



Dear colleagues,

Thanks to Stefan Baums and Reinhold Gr?nendahl, I now have the requested papers (and more). I will heed Dominik's advice and upload them to Archive.org tomorrow, then send the links to the list.

Best wishes,

Arlo Griffiths
EFEO/Jakarta

From: arlogriffiths at hotmail.com
To: indology at list.indology.info
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 07:52:16 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] L?vi (1923, 1925)




Dear colleagues,

Would anyone be able to furnish a pdf of the original French version of the following:


  L?vi, Sylvain. 1929. ?Pre-Aryan and Pre-Dravidian in India.? In Pre-Aryan and Pre-Dravidian in India, by Sylvain L?vi, Jean Przyluski, and Jules Bloch, translated by Prabodh Chandra Bagchi, 61?126. Calcutta: University of Calcutta.
  

It should be available in Journal Asiatique, t. 203, 1923, pp. 1-57, but this volume does not appear to be available on Gallica.

If somebody could furnish "Ptolem?e, le Niddesa et la B?hatkath?", from ?tudes Asiatiques II, Paris 1925, pp. 1-55, I shall also be grateful.

Thank you.

Best wishes,

Arlo Griffiths
EFEO/Jakarta
 		 	   		  

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From dipak.d2004 at gmail.com  Fri Nov 21 16:10:09 2014
From: dipak.d2004 at gmail.com (Dipak Bhattacharya)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 14 21:40:09 +0530
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_L=C3=A9vi_(1923,_1925)?=
In-Reply-To: <DUB114-W2375AA8FF5312B908200A9A5770@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CABEB9q+eubkPn0Sp=aX5te3e587ZH427q7Jon+MzmKN6bk4rSQ@mail.gmail.com>

21.11.14

Thanks, dear colleagues! Bagchi's translation is available here but not the
original.

I just relate some old anecdotes. We owe it to the poet Tagore that Bagchi
translated the work into English. L?vi made such an impression upon Tagore
that the latter requested L?vi to train Bagchi in his own way. L?vi and
Bagchi became legends at Santiniketan.

I also thank Professor Houben who was instrumental in my becoming a member
of Indology.

Best wishes

DB



On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Arlo Griffiths <arlogriffiths at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> The pdf files are now online at:
>
> https://archive.org/details/Levi1923PreAryenEtPreDravidien
> https://archive.org/details/Levi1925PtolemeeNiddesaBrhatkatha
>
> Those who prefer to read the first in English may find it here:
> https://archive.org/details/prearyanandpredr035083mbp. (Somebody else
> furnished that one.)
>
> I can report that the basic uploading process is very quickly done; it is
> entirely up to the uploader what metadata are filled in, so I have used
> some of the same descriptors as figure in Zotero. I don't know why some of
> the metadata get placed in one place in the interface, while other in
> another.
>
> I also don't know why the pages cannot be read in the online reader (at
> least not on my side), but I assume at least the pdf files can be
> downloaded.
>
> It would be nice to have all of L?vi's articles online like this. But it
> still feels like a bit too much overhead for each of us to engage in
> randomly, all the more so because I believe that Archive.org does not
> effectively control against duplicates of works that have already been
> uploaded. Maybe we could vote on which Indologists deserve most to be
> honored with attempts at furnishing their entire lists of publications at
> Archive.org (I suppose focusing on those from whom  a Kleine Schriften or
> such has never been compiled), and then work in little groups on individual
> authors?
>
> Best,
>
> Arlo Griffiths
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> From: wujastyk at gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 16:04:43 +0100
> Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] L?vi (1923, 1925)
> To: arlogriffiths at hotmail.com
> CC: indology at list.indology.info
>
>
> Thanks, Arlo!  I'm so glad my suggestion has been thought to have merit.
>
> But I know it adds quite some overhead, and I think that swapping
> documents is more important, so I don't want this suggestion to slow down
> people's helpfulness unduly.
>
> Best,
> Dominik
>
> On 20 November 2014 15:21, Arlo Griffiths <arlogriffiths at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Dear colleagues,
>
> Thanks to Stefan Baums and Reinhold Gr?nendahl, I now have the requested
> papers (and more). I will heed Dominik's advice and upload them to
> Archive.org tomorrow, then send the links to the list.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Arlo Griffiths
> EFEO/Jakarta
>
> ------------------------------
> From: arlogriffiths at hotmail.com
> To: indology at list.indology.info
> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 07:52:16 +0000
> Subject: [INDOLOGY] L?vi (1923, 1925)
>
>
> Dear colleagues,
>
> Would anyone be able to furnish a pdf of the original French version of
> the following:
>
> L?vi, Sylvain. 1929. ?Pre-Aryan and Pre-Dravidian in India.? In *Pre-Aryan
> and Pre-Dravidian in India*, by Sylvain L?vi, Jean Przyluski, and Jules
> Bloch, translated by Prabodh Chandra Bagchi, 61?126. Calcutta: University
> of Calcutta.
>
> It should be available in Journal Asiatique, t. 203, 1923, pp. 1-57, but
> this volume does not appear to be available on Gallica.
>
> If somebody could furnish "Ptolem?e, le Niddesa et la B?hatkath?", from
> ?tudes Asiatiques II, Paris 1925, pp. 1-55, I shall also be grateful.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Arlo Griffiths
> EFEO/Jakarta
>
> _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info http://listinfo.indology.info
>
> _______________________________________________
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> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
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From hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com  Fri Nov 21 16:37:42 2014
From: hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com (Harry Spier)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 14 11:37:42 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Muktabodha Digital Library update: 6 more tantric e-texts from unedited manuscripts added
Message-ID: <CAPW7aQH0g-JXxZrkxVcMhM_MAM-aPOzYYhLDfS1M9166iJnHgA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear list members,

The following e-texts have now been added to the Muktabodha Digital Library:

1. brahmayAmala from IFP transcript T00522 .

2. zaktisUtram from NGMCP manuscript No. : 1-619 Reel No.: 628/9

3. nigamasAranirNayam by ramAramaNadeva NGMCP manuscript No. 3-333 Reel No.
B 129/5

4. kriyakramadyotikavyAkhyA by KacchapezvarazivAcArya from IFP transcript
T00109

5. tArArahasyavRtti by brahmAnanda from NGMCP manuscript No. : A - 1337
Reel No. : D 28/26

6. kAlasaMkarSiNImatatantraTippaNI from NGMCP manuscript No. 5-817 Reel No.
B25/18

Harry Spier
Manager, Muktabodha Digital Library


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From hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com  Sat Nov 22 16:59:20 2014
From: hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com (Harry Spier)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 14 11:59:20 -0500
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_Editions_of_the_Mah=C4=81nirv=C4=81natantra?=
Message-ID: <CAPW7aQFFbs8LoSDXgxX8Vqhftq52AeVDtsusWrKO6wTt_v7k6Q@mail.gmail.com>

Would any of the list members know if there are any other editions of the
Mah?nirv?natantra not based on the edition of John Woodroffe.  I see that
there is an edition by Coukhamba 2007 edited by Narayana, Kapiladeva.
Would anyone know if that edition is based on John Woodroffe's edition in
the Tantrik Text Series.

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From dipak.d2004 at gmail.com  Sun Nov 23 03:40:57 2014
From: dipak.d2004 at gmail.com (Dipak Bhattacharya)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 14 09:10:57 +0530
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]=09Editions_of_the_Mah=C4=81nirv=C4=81natantra?=
In-Reply-To: <CAPW7aQFFbs8LoSDXgxX8Vqhftq52AeVDtsusWrKO6wTt_v7k6Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABEB9qJ7JOtPu+Vvp3dzoqHcypeuXTrH2D_VxXkwTtZpGUZciA@mail.gmail.com>

There have been editions of the Mahaanirvaa.natantra that are not based on
Wodroffe's edition. Even four decades ago manuscripts of the text were in
plenty available in Bengal's villages and cities in the houses of
traditional scholars. I am aware of an edition brought out around 1934 by
one Mihirkumar Mukhopadhyay or Bhattacharya. I can enquire later.
Best
Dipak Bhattacharya

On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Harry Spier <hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Would any of the list members know if there are any other editions of the
> Mah?nirv?natantra not based on the edition of John Woodroffe.  I see that
> there is an edition by Coukhamba 2007 edited by Narayana, Kapiladeva.
> Would anyone know if that edition is based on John Woodroffe's edition in
> the Tantrik Text Series.
>
> Thanks,
> Harry Spier
>
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From ersand at hum.ku.dk  Sun Nov 23 16:09:20 2014
From: ersand at hum.ku.dk (Erik Sand)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 14 16:09:20 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Request
Message-ID: <A9D6431FE7606549AA6CF0ED241E83E53F7ABAE0@exmbx1.hum2005.hum.ku.dk>

Dear list members,

I would happy if anyone could supply me with a pdf. of the following article by Prof. Dieter Schlingloff:

Die Einhorn-Legende. Christiana Albertina, Kieler Universit?ts-Zeitschrift 11 (Neum?nster 1971) 61?64. The R?ya???ga story in world literature, in Indian literature and reliefs; an interpreta-tion of a painting in Ajanta cave XVI.

Thanks

Erik Reenberg Sand
Department of Cross-Cultural and Regional Studies
University of Copenhagen


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From w.t.douglas at abdn.ac.uk  Sun Nov 23 21:23:26 2014
From: w.t.douglas at abdn.ac.uk (Dr. Will Tuladhar-Douglas)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 14 21:23:26 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Request, Frauwallner in WKSO 1959.
Message-ID: <0A21D390-D326-4BDA-82DC-EEDF73CD6E22@abdn.ac.uk>

Gentlefolk,

I'm trying to re-assemble a collection of articles that was lost some years back and would be very grateful if someone could supply a PDF of Frauwallner's study of Dinn?ga's pi???rtha commentary on the Praj??p?ramit?h?daya, published in WZKSO 3 (1959) pp. 140ff, or so my notes say. I will be able to locate it myself in a fortnight, I think, so if it's not to hand then I will take care of scanning and distributing it; but if someone does have a copy to hand I would be most grateful.

Many thanks,

?WBTD.
- - -- --- ----- -------- -------------
Will Tuladhar Douglas
Senior Lecturer, Environments and Religions
University of Aberdeen
http://tending.to/garden <http://tending.to/garden>


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From w.t.douglas at abdn.ac.uk  Sun Nov 23 21:54:14 2014
From: w.t.douglas at abdn.ac.uk (Dr. Will Tuladhar-Douglas)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 14 21:54:14 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Request, Frauwallner in WKSO 1959.
In-Reply-To: <0A21D390-D326-4BDA-82DC-EEDF73CD6E22@abdn.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <73C6E76A-6C39-45AF-A40E-6949C84BBDB2@abdn.ac.uk>

?which was received almost instantly, courtesy of Dmitry Olenev. What a wonderful community! 

?WBTD.

> On 23 Nov 2014, at 21:23, Dr. Will Tuladhar-Douglas <w.t.douglas at abdn.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> Gentlefolk,
> 
> I'm trying to re-assemble a collection of articles that was lost some years back and would be very grateful if someone could supply a PDF of Frauwallner's study of Dinn?ga's pi???rtha commentary on the Praj??p?ramit?h?daya, published in WZKSO 3 (1959) pp. 140ff, or so my notes say. I will be able to locate it myself in a fortnight, I think, so if it's not to hand then I will take care of scanning and distributing it; but if someone does have a copy to hand I would be most grateful.
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> ?WBTD.
> - - -- --- ----- -------- -------------
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> Senior Lecturer, Environments and Religions
> University of Aberdeen
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From karp at uw.edu.pl  Mon Nov 24 08:18:48 2014
From: karp at uw.edu.pl (Artur Karp)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 14 09:18:48 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Maurya etymology
Message-ID: <CAEgrCzDhustpKn_78MC_8pbbmD2fF_tNxC_oU1_OEVSFqqVLeg@mail.gmail.com>

Dear List,

Is there an accepted etymology for the epithet used by the first Indian
imperial dynasty?

Best,

Artur Karp
Senior Lecturer in Sanskrit & Pali (ret.)
South Asian Studies Dept.
Oriental Faculty
University of Warsaw
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From ersand at hum.ku.dk  Mon Nov 24 08:41:06 2014
From: ersand at hum.ku.dk (Erik Sand)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 14 08:41:06 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Request again
Message-ID: <A9D6431FE7606549AA6CF0ED241E83E53F7ABC21@exmbx1.hum2005.hum.ku.dk>

Dear list members,

Yesterday I send you a request for a pdf. of Prof. Dieter Schlingloff?s article Die Einhorn-Legende. Christiana Albertina, Kieler Universit?ts-Zeitschrift 11 (Neum?nster 1971) 61?64.

It seems no one has this article. However, Prof. Asko Parpola has kindly brought my attention tot he fact that there is an English translation on pages 294-307 of the following work:


German scholars on India: Contributions to Indian Studies, edited by the Cultural Department of the Embassy of the Federal Republic of Germany, New Delhi, I. Varanasi: The Chowkhamba Sanskrit Series Office, 1973.



Unfortunately, this work is not in the Royal Library in Copenhagen.



Perhaps, someone can help me with that?



Regards



Erik Reenberg Sand

Department of Cross-Cultural and Regional Studies

University of Copenhagen


I would happy if anyone could supply me with a pdf. of the following article by Prof. Dieter Schlingloff:

Die Einhorn-Legende. Christiana Albertina, Kieler Universit?ts-Zeitschrift 11 (Neum?nster 1971) 61?64. The R?ya???ga story in world literature, in Indian literature and reliefs; an interpreta-tion of a painting in Ajanta cave XVI.

Thanks

Erik Reenberg Sand
Department of Cross-Cultural and Regional Studies
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From michael.torsten.much at univie.ac.at  Mon Nov 24 09:11:01 2014
From: michael.torsten.much at univie.ac.at (mtwm)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 14 10:11:01 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Request again
In-Reply-To: <A9D6431FE7606549AA6CF0ED241E83E53F7ABC21@exmbx1.hum2005.hum.ku.dk>
Message-ID: <51D14B43-226F-4788-B98E-C78228382B67@univie.ac.at>

Dear Erik,
found a copy of the 1971 paper in our archives, I?ll send a scan as soon as possible.
Regards,
Torsten


Michael Torsten Wieser Much / Ass.Prof. / Institute of South Asian, Tibetan and Buddhist Studies / Vienna University / Spitalgasse 2 (Campus 2.7) / 1090 Wien / Austria / 00 43 1 4277 43555 / michael.torsten.much at univie.ac.at

On 24 Nov 2014, at 09:41, Erik Sand <ersand at hum.ku.dk> wrote:

> Dear list members,
>  
> Yesterday I send you a request for a pdf. of Prof. Dieter Schlingloff?s article Die Einhorn-Legende. Christiana Albertina, Kieler Universit?ts-Zeitschrift 11 (Neum?nster 1971) 61?64.
>  
> It seems no one has this article. However, Prof. Asko Parpola has kindly brought my attention tot he fact that there is an English translation on pages 294-307 of the following work:
>  
> German scholars on India: Contributions to Indian Studies, edited by the Cultural Department of the Embassy of the Federal Republic of Germany, New Delhi, I. Varanasi: The Chowkhamba Sanskrit Series Office, 1973.
>  
> Unfortunately, this work is not in the Royal Library in Copenhagen.
>  
> Perhaps, someone can help me with that?
>  
> Regards
>  
> Erik Reenberg Sand
> Department of Cross-Cultural and Regional Studies
> University of Copenhagen
>  
>  
> I would happy if anyone could supply me with a pdf. of the following article by Prof. Dieter Schlingloff:
>  
> Die Einhorn-Legende. Christiana Albertina, Kieler Universit?ts-Zeitschrift 11 (Neum?nster 1971) 61?64. The R?ya???ga story in world literature, in Indian literature and reliefs; an interpreta-tion of a painting in Ajanta cave XVI.
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Erik Reenberg Sand
> Department of Cross-Cultural and Regional Studies
> University of Copenhagen
>  
> _______________________________________________
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From ersand at hum.ku.dk  Mon Nov 24 10:20:42 2014
From: ersand at hum.ku.dk (Erik Sand)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 14 10:20:42 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Thanks
Message-ID: <A9D6431FE7606549AA6CF0ED241E83E53F7ACC87@exmbx1.hum2005.hum.ku.dk>

Dear all,

Sorry to spam you all with this, but many thanks to Michael Torsten Wieser Much from Institute of South Asian, Tibetan and Buddhist Studies, Vienna University, for helping me with the German original of his Unicorn-paper.

Regards

Erik Reenberg Sand
Department of Cross-Cultural and Regional Studies
University of Copenhagen


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From karp at uw.edu.pl  Mon Nov 24 14:16:03 2014
From: karp at uw.edu.pl (Artur Karp)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 14 15:16:03 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Maurya etymology
In-Reply-To: <CAEgrCzDhustpKn_78MC_8pbbmD2fF_tNxC_oU1_OEVSFqqVLeg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEgrCzAYWHQTRAZV4q_6E7t2tz1mbLkh6keHoZKzcVoN7qZ5EQ@mail.gmail.com>

In a message sent to me Dipak Bhattacharya points out that the


"Buddhist sources give the name as Moriya -- the 'peacock men'. Maurya from
Mur? is perhaps an instance of Sanskritization."



But - is this the only etymology?

Where Mur? comes from - and what would it mean?

Best,

Artur K.


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From danbalogh at gmail.com  Mon Nov 24 16:44:22 2014
From: danbalogh at gmail.com (=?utf-8?Q?Balogh_D=C3=A1niel?=)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 14 17:44:22 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Maurya etymology
In-Reply-To: <CAEgrCzAYWHQTRAZV4q_6E7t2tz1mbLkh6keHoZKzcVoN7qZ5EQ@mail.gmail.com>
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From danbalogh at gmail.com  Mon Nov 24 17:55:23 2014
From: danbalogh at gmail.com (=?utf-8?Q?Balogh_D=C3=A1niel?=)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 14 18:55:23 +0100
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_Vi=E1=B9=A3=E1=B9=87upur=C4=81=E1=B9=87a_etext?=
In-Reply-To: <54736066.2000604@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5473710B.4070701@gmail.com>

A bit of correction to my last message (on Maurya).
I may have been hasty in calling the Vi??upur??a etext "full of" typos, 
for which I apologise to its creators. I haven't studied the text in 
detail, but while searching for "mur?" I got some hits that must be 
sur?. However, this only applies to the version input by members of the 
Sansknet Project; both the above errors are corrected in Peter 
Schreiner's version. (Both e-texts on Gretil.)
All the best,
Daniel

---
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From caf57 at cam.ac.uk  Mon Nov 24 22:48:42 2014
From: caf57 at cam.ac.uk (C.A. Formigatti)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 14 22:48:42 +0000
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_Cross-section_panel_at_the_WSC_2015:_Manuscript_Collections=E2=80=94What,_How_and_Why_should_we_catalogue?=
Message-ID: <1e2b515ae05d1a7dcb4e8450da8c7261@cam.ac.uk>

Dear Colleagues,

As the submission deadline for the World Sanskrit Conference is drawing 
near (November 30), we thought it proper to tell the Indological 
community that there are still a couple of free slots in the panel we 
are organising, especially in the section on the definition and analysis 
of manuscript collections as a whole.

Call for paper:

'Manuscript Collections?What, How and Why should we catalogue'

The present panel "Manuscript collections?what, how and why should we 
catalogue" will take place across two sections of the WSC: 'Sanskrit and 
the IT World' and 'Manuscriptology'. The driving idea behind this panel 
originates from the recently completed three-year project on the 
Cambridge collections of Sanskrit (and generally Indic) manuscripts.
The panel is intended to be divided in three tables. The first table, 
dealing with "What" should be catalogued, will be organised within the 
Manuscriptology section and will focus on issues of definition and 
delimitations, in the attempt to assess what a manuscript is and what a 
manuscript collection (including both modern collections and pre-modern 
libraries) can be considered to be, with a sub-focus on the history of 
collections and manuscripts, both in Europe and in the Indian 
subcontinent. The theoretical nature of this panel will be balanced by 
concrete case-studies such as the Cambridge collections. The second 
table, dealing with "How" manuscripts should be catalogued, will be 
organised within the 'Sanskrit and IT world' and will focus on the 
contemporary 'digital' modes of cataloguing and on the paradigm shift 
that they embody in the way of conceiving any study of manuscripts 
collections, with particular attention to issues of standardisation, 
accessibility, improvability and storage. The third table, about "Why" 
should manuscript collections be catalogued, will be organised within 
the 'Manuscriptology' section and will focus on the specific research 
avenues that online cataloguing is opening up, especially in the fields 
of quantitative codicology, palaeography, research into manuscript 
materiality, history of knowledge transmission, etc., without however 
disregarding more 'traditional', philological contributions ensuing from 
the study of manuscript collections, such as discovery of lost texts, 
critical editions and so forth.
With this panel, we hope to offer an original contribution to the 
ongoing debate in the field of Manuscript Studies and its centrality in 
the understanding of the history and culture of the Indian subcontinent. 
Moreover, we aim at showing how the honing of sharp theoretical tools 
and the full understanding of the practical tools offered by IT are 
essential aspects of the research into both textuality and materiality 
of the South Asian manuscript culture.



Camillo Formigatti
Mongolia & Inner Asia Studies Unit
University of Cambridge

Daniele Cuneo
Faculteit der Geesteswetenschappen
Leiden Institute for Area Studies
SAS India en Tibet
Leiden University





From dipak.d2004 at gmail.com  Tue Nov 25 05:11:00 2014
From: dipak.d2004 at gmail.com (Dipak Bhattacharya)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 14 10:41:00 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Maurya etymology
In-Reply-To: <CAEgrCzAYWHQTRAZV4q_6E7t2tz1mbLkh6keHoZKzcVoN7qZ5EQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABEB9qLnJ-3ekbxDW2uBZqQhB_0ES1Np-mT_bavFYxBAc5R-4w@mail.gmail.com>

I have not found Muraa in the VP in its description of kings of the kali
era. The name occurs in a commentary.
Best
DB

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 7:46 PM, Artur Karp <karp at uw.edu.pl> wrote:

> In a message sent to me Dipak Bhattacharya points out that the
>
>
> "Buddhist sources give the name as Moriya -- the 'peacock men'. Maurya
> from Mur? is perhaps an instance of Sanskritization."
>
>
>
> But - is this the only etymology?
>
> Where Mur? comes from - and what would it mean?
>
> Best,
>
> Artur K.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From gcindology at gmail.com  Tue Nov 25 08:05:51 2014
From: gcindology at gmail.com (G. Colas)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 14 09:05:51 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Corrections in Manuscripts
In-Reply-To: <373FE003EA3D2949BCC16219C67CBBF74F19E029@UCEXMBX04-I.canterbury.ac.nz>
Message-ID: <C4877F19-4B06-4B91-BA5D-E210AAE5E578@gmail.com>

Sorry for the very late reaction. Perhaps my contribution could be useful :

? Relecture et techniques de correction dans les manuscrits indiens: L?exemple des manuscrits sanskrits philosophiques du fonds Chandra Shum Shere ?, in Christian Jacob (ed.), Lieux de savoir 2: Les mains de l?intellect, Paris: Albin Michel, 2011, p. 494-521.

It deals with the two phases of correction of paper manuscripts and with scribal techniques of cancelling, emending, adding, etc., and is illustrated. However it does not identify the substance of the paint used to cancel words and sentences.
With best wishes, 
G?rard Colas

Le 3 juil. 2014 ? 06:26, Clemency Montelle <clemency.montelle at canterbury.ac.nz> a ?crit :

> Dear All,
>  
> I have been considering the ways in which scribes made corrections in the manuscripts they were copying, specifically in numerical tables.  Of course, there are a variety of practices that  (some are neater than others!).  One way of interest is the use of what appears to be (in the colour copies of manuscripts I have) a yellowish paste or paint (an early version of modern day ?white-out? or ?twink??) which can then written over.
>  
> I attach a couple of examples. (The first example it has been used along several successive values in the third row, and in the second an entire column as well as individual entries.)
>  
> Does anybody know more about this technique?  What was the substance used?  How widespread is this?  Where can I read more about this?
>  
> With best wishes,
> Clemency
>  
> Dr Clemency Montelle
> http://www.math.canterbury.ac.nz/~c.montelle/
> Department of Mathematics and Statistics
> University of Canterbury | Te Whare Wananga o Waitaha
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From baums at lmu.de  Tue Nov 25 15:01:00 2014
From: baums at lmu.de (Stefan Baums)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 14 16:01:00 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Doctoral position at University of Munich
Message-ID: <20141125150100.GW12964@deepthought>

?Dear colleagues,

I would like to bring to your attention the following
attractive doctoral position at the University of Munich:

   http://www.uni-muenchen.de/aktuelles/stellenangebote/wissenschaft/20141114125838.html

Please share the announcement with anybody who might be
interested.

All best,
Stefan Baums

--------------------------------------------------

Doctoral Position in Indology / Buddhist Studies

Ludwig Maximilian University of Munich

Division:             Faculty for the Study of Culture
Start date:           1 March 2015
Application deadline: 15 January 2015
Salary:               TV?L / 75%
Term of employment:   Two years, with the possibility of
                      renewal for one additional year.

This is a part?time position (30 hours per week).

The Ludwig Maximilian University of Munich (LMU) is one of
the most renowned and largest universities in Germany.

Tasks

The discovery of the oldest Buddhist manuscripts ? written
between the first century BCE and the fourth century CE in
the northwest Indian region of Gandh?ra ? has provided a new
basis for our understanding of this formative phase of
Buddhism. The project ?Buddhist Manuscripts from Gandh?ra?
prepares editions of the newly discovered textual witnesses
and investigates the linguistic, literary and cultural
history of Buddhism in Gandh?ra. It is supported by the
Union of the German Academies of Sciences and Humanities and
is based at the LMU Munich.

You will carry out a research project and write a Ph.D.
dissertation that increases our knowledge of Buddhism in
Gandh?ra or an associated area of early Indian Buddhism.
While the specific content of your project will be defined
by yourself, you will contribute to the research of the
Gandh?ra project and work together with its researchers. You
will be given opportunities for professional development
through participation in the LMU?s interdisciplinary Ph.D.
program in Buddhist Studies.

Requirements

A very good first degree in a relevant discipline (e.g.,
Indology, South Asian art history or archeology, Buddhist
Studies, Sinology) is a prerequisite. You will be expected
to make an original contribution to knowledge on the basis
of primary sources and through scholarly argumentation. We
offer individual support and an inspiring environment.

Your workplace is centrally located in Munich and easy to
reach by public transport. We offer an interesting and
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professional development. Equally qualified disabled
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Salary

You will receive an attractive salary corresponding to 75%
of a full?time position under in accordance with the
?Tarifvertrag f?r den ?ffentlichen Dienst der L?nder
(TV?L)? (http://oeffentlicher-dienst.info/tv-l/west).

Further information

http://www.en.gandhara.indologie.lmu.de/

Bewerbungsadresse

Please send the following application material by email:

(A) as a PDF file (maximum size 5 MB):

(1) cover letter (statement of purpose)
(2) curriculum vitae
(3) copies of degrees
(4) research proposal (maximum of 5,000 characters including
    spaces) and bibliography
(5) writing sample (ca. 10?20 pages), e.g. from your M.A.
    thesis, in the original language
(6) if applicable, list of publications

(B) names, addresses and email addresses of two referees

Ludwig-Maximilians-Universit?t M?nchen
Department f?r Asienstudien
Institut f?r Indologie und Tibetologie
Prof. Dr. Jens-Uwe Hartmann
Geschwister-Scholl-Platz 1
80539 M?nchen
Germany
E-Mail: evelyn.kindermann at lmu.de

--------------------------------------------------

-- 
Dr. Stefan Baums
Institute for Indian and Tibetan Studies
Ludwig Maximilian University of Munich





From wujastyk at gmail.com  Tue Nov 25 18:54:52 2014
From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 14 19:54:52 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Withdrawing my book from Penguin Random House India
Message-ID: <CAKdt-CfQbnM-VVxnPprs3_zoHnn=StiFNY8iNuxMZ=w2ib15GA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear colleagues,

As will be well known to all of you, in February this year, Penguin Random
House India settled terms with Dinanath Batra, rather than continue
fightning in court, and agreed to stop publishing the book *The Hindus: An
Alternative History* written by our academic colleague Wendy Doniger, and
pulp all remaining copies.

Penguin Books India (as it was then) also published a book of mine, *The
Roots of India*, in their Penguin Classics series.  My book was handled,
back in the day, by David Davidar and his staff, who did a fabulous job of
editing and publishing the book. (I did the typesetting.)

In 1998, I was thrilled to have a book in the Penguin Classics series.  But
I was correspondingly dismayed when my publisher prematurely capitulated in
a patently winnable law case, and publicly cooperated with those who oppose
free speech and promote a view of Indian history, culture and public life
with which I profoundly disagree.

I therefore wrote to Random House Penguin India, saying that I was now
ashamed to be associated with them, and that I would like to stop my book
being published and distributed by them.  They wrote back (within five
minutes) saying that they would let my book go, since they did not wish to
hold on to an author who was unwilling to be published by them.  It has
taken some time, but I have now signed the final papers severing my
publication contract with Random House Penguin India.  All rights relating
to the book have now reverted to me.  The negotiations were civil, even
friendly.

There's a twist.  In 2002, Penguin Books India sold Penguin UK a license to
publish my *Roots* book (they're different companies).  That resulted in a
new, revised, re-typeset and freshly indexed third edition that appeared in
2003.  As I understand it, that 2003 UK edition (with Dhanvantari on the
cover) remains available
<http://www.amazon.co.uk/Roots-Ayurveda-Selections-Sanskrit-Writings/dp/0140448241>.


I see that the USA edition of Wendy's *The Hindus* is currently being
sold through
the Penguin India website
<http://www.uread.com/book/hindus-wendy-doniger/9780143116691>.  There's
even a 21% discount.  That renders Batra's victory hollow.

Sincerely,
Dominik Wujastyk


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From McComas.Taylor at anu.edu.au  Tue Nov 25 22:03:54 2014
From: McComas.Taylor at anu.edu.au (McComas Taylor)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 14 22:03:54 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Withdrawing my book from Penguin Random House India
In-Reply-To: <CAKdt-CfQbnM-VVxnPprs3_zoHnn=StiFNY8iNuxMZ=w2ib15GA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1416953037463.47741@anu.edu.au>

Colleagues interested in the background to of this issue might read a short article published last week:


Taylor, M. 2014. 'Hindu activists and academic censorship in India'. South Asia. Read online<https://alliance.anu.edu.au/access/content/user/u3936301/hindu_activism.pdf>


Yours


McComas


________________________________
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Head, Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies, CHL, CAP
The Australian National University
Tel. + 61 2 6125 3179
Website: https://sites.google.com/site/mccomasanu/
Address: Baldessin Building 4.24, ANU, ACT 0200
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Test drive our new 'Joy of Sanskrit' electronic text book<http://press.anu.edu.au/titles/anu-etext/the-joy-of-sanskrit/>.

________________________________
From: INDOLOGY <indology-bounces at list.indology.info> on behalf of Dominik Wujastyk <wujastyk at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 5:54 AM
To: Indology; risa-l
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Withdrawing my book from Penguin Random House India

Dear colleagues,

As will be well known to all of you, in February this year, Penguin Random House India settled terms with Dinanath Batra, rather than continue fightning in court, and agreed to stop publishing the book The Hindus: An Alternative History written by our academic colleague Wendy Doniger, and pulp all remaining copies.

Penguin Books India (as it was then) also published a book of mine, The Roots of India, in their Penguin Classics series.  My book was handled, back in the day, by David Davidar and his staff, who did a fabulous job of editing and publishing the book. (I did the typesetting.)

In 1998, I was thrilled to have a book in the Penguin Classics series.  But I was correspondingly dismayed when my publisher prematurely capitulated in a patently winnable law case, and publicly cooperated with those who oppose free speech and promote a view of Indian history, culture and public life with which I profoundly disagree.

I therefore wrote to Random House Penguin India, saying that I was now ashamed to be associated with them, and that I would like to stop my book being published and distributed by them.  They wrote back (within five minutes) saying that they would let my book go, since they did not wish to hold on to an author who was unwilling to be published by them.  It has taken some time, but I have now signed the final papers severing my publication contract with Random House Penguin India.  All rights relating to the book have now reverted to me.  The negotiations were civil, even friendly.

There's a twist.  In 2002, Penguin Books India sold Penguin UK a license to publish my Roots book (they're different companies).  That resulted in a new, revised, re-typeset and freshly indexed third edition that appeared in 2003.  As I understand it, that 2003 UK edition (with Dhanvantari on the cover) remains available<http://www.amazon.co.uk/Roots-Ayurveda-Selections-Sanskrit-Writings/dp/0140448241>.

I see that the USA edition of Wendy's The Hindus is currently being sold through the Penguin India website<http://www.uread.com/book/hindus-wendy-doniger/9780143116691>.  There's even a 21% discount.  That renders Batra's victory hollow.

Sincerely,
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From conlon at u.washington.edu  Tue Nov 25 22:23:27 2014
From: conlon at u.washington.edu (Frank F Conlon)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 14 14:23:27 -0800
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Withdrawing my book from Penguin Random House India
In-Reply-To: <1416953037463.47741@anu.edu.au>
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.01.1411251423270.13687@hymn02.u.washington.edu>

McComas,  thanks for sharing this essay--it seems to me a very fair summary
of the conflation of legal issues and the threats --overt or covert-- of violence
on behalf of "hurt sensibilities."

Frank

Frank F. Conlon
Professor emeritus
University of Washington
Seattle, WA 98195-3560  USA

On Tue, 25 Nov 2014, McComas Taylor wrote:

> Colleagues interested in the background to of this issue might read a short article published last week:
>
>
> Taylor, M. 2014. 'Hindu activists and academic censorship in India'. South Asia. Read online<https://alliance.anu.edu.au/access/content/user/u3936301/hindu_activism.pdf>
>
>
> Yours
>
>
> McComas
>
>
> ________________________________
> McComas Taylor
> Head, Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies, CHL, CAP
> The Australian National University
> Tel. + 61 2 6125 3179
> Website: https://sites.google.com/site/mccomasanu/
> Address: Baldessin Building 4.24, ANU, ACT 0200
> ________________________________
> Test drive our new 'Joy of Sanskrit' electronic text book<http://press.anu.edu.au/titles/anu-etext/the-joy-of-sanskrit/>.
>
> ________________________________
> From: INDOLOGY <indology-bounces at list.indology.info> on behalf of Dominik Wujastyk <wujastyk at gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 5:54 AM
> To: Indology; risa-l
> Subject: [INDOLOGY] Withdrawing my book from Penguin Random House India
>
> Dear colleagues,
>
> As will be well known to all of you, in February this year, Penguin Random House India settled terms with Dinanath Batra, rather than continue fightning in court, and agreed to stop publishing the book The Hindus: An Alternative History written by our academic colleague Wendy Doniger, and pulp all remaining copies.
>
> Penguin Books India (as it was then) also published a book of mine, The Roots of India, in their Penguin Classics series.  My book was handled, back in the day, by David Davidar and his staff, who did a fabulous job of editing and publishing the book. (I did the typesetting.)
>
> In 1998, I was thrilled to have a book in the Penguin Classics series.  But I was correspondingly dismayed when my publisher prematurely capitulated in a patently winnable law case, and publicly cooperated with those who oppose free speech and promote a view of Indian history, culture and public life with which I profoundly disagree.
>
> I therefore wrote to Random House Penguin India, saying that I was now ashamed to be associated with them, and that I would like to stop my book being published and distributed by them.  They wrote back (within five minutes) saying that they would let my book go, since they did not wish to hold on to an author who was unwilling to be published by them.  It has taken some time, but I have now signed the final papers severing my publication contract with Random House Penguin India.  All rights relating to the book have now reverted to me.  The negotiations were civil, even friendly.
>
> There's a twist.  In 2002, Penguin Books India sold Penguin UK a license to publish my Roots book (they're different companies).  That resulted in a new, revised, re-typeset and freshly indexed third edition that appeared in 2003.  As I understand it, that 2003 UK edition (with Dhanvantari on the cover) remains available<http://www.amazon.co.uk/Roots-Ayurveda-Selections-Sanskrit-Writings/dp/0140448241>.
>
> I see that the USA edition of Wendy's The Hindus is currently being sold through the Penguin India website<http://www.uread.com/book/hindus-wendy-doniger/9780143116691>.  There's even a 21% discount.  That renders Batra's victory hollow.
>
> Sincerely,
> Dominik Wujastyk
>
>
>
>
>
>

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From wujastyk at gmail.com  Wed Nov 26 05:55:35 2014
From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 14 06:55:35 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Withdrawing my book from Penguin Random House India
In-Reply-To: <CAKdt-CfQbnM-VVxnPprs3_zoHnn=StiFNY8iNuxMZ=w2ib15GA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKdt-CdCZX1rY0MTK+AJ9QCy=z2-WjtBsgk95R_pytAoPTVEiA@mail.gmail.com>

?Oops, typo?:

On 25 November 2014 at 19:54, Dominik Wujastyk <wujastyk at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear colleagues,
> ?...
> Penguin Books India (as it was then) also published a book of mine, *The
> Roots of India*, in their Penguin Classics series.
> ?...?
>

That should be "?Roots of Ayurveda."?
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From juergen.neuss at fu-berlin.de  Wed Nov 26 08:42:06 2014
From: juergen.neuss at fu-berlin.de (=?utf-8?Q?J=C3=BCrgen_Neuss?=)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 14 09:42:06 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Corrections in Manuscripts
In-Reply-To: <C4877F19-4B06-4B91-BA5D-E210AAE5E578@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.xpxbsghcyzlw0k@tapti>

Perhaps also useful, but in German:

Einicke, Katrin
Korrektur, Differenzierung und Abk?rzung in indischen Inschriften und  
Handschriften
Wiesbaden: Harrassowitz.
2008
ISBN: 978-3-447-06087-5

Best wishes,

Juergen Neuss



On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:05:51 +0100, G. Colas <gcindology at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry for the very late reaction. Perhaps my contribution could be  
> useful :
>
> ? Relecture et techniques de correction dans les manuscrits indiens:  
> L?exemple des manuscrits sanskrits philosophiques du fonds Chandra Shum  
> Shere ?, in Christian Jacob (ed.), Lieux de savoir 2: Les mains de  
> l?intellect, Paris: Albin Michel, 2011, p. 494-521.
>
> It deals with the two phases of correction of paper manuscripts and with  
> scribal techniques of cancelling, emending, adding, etc., and is  
> illustrated. However it does not identify the substance of the paint  
> used to cancel words and sentences.
> With best wishes,
> G?rard Colas
>
> Le 3 juil. 2014 ? 06:26, Clemency Montelle  
> <clemency.montelle at canterbury.ac.nz> a ?crit :
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I have been considering the ways in which scribes made corrections in  
>> the manuscripts they were copying, specifically in numerical tables.   
>> Of course, there are a variety of practices that  (some are neater than  
>> others!).  One way of interest is the use of what appears to be (in the  
>> colour copies of manuscripts I have) a yellowish paste or paint (an  
>> early version of modern day ?white-out? or ?twink??) which can then  
>> written over.
>>
>> I attach a couple of examples. (The first example it has been used  
>> along several successive values in the third row, and in the second an  
>> entire column as well as individual entries.)
>>
>> Does anybody know more about this technique?  What was the substance  
>> used?  How widespread is this?  Where can I read more about this?
>>
>> With best wishes,
>> Clemency
>>
>> Dr Clemency Montelle
>> http://www.math.canterbury.ac.nz/~c.montelle/
>> Department of Mathematics and Statistics
>> University of Canterbury | Te Whare Wananga o Waitaha
>> Private Bag 4800, Christchurch 8140
>> NEW ZEALAND
>> ph +64 3 364 2267
>> fax +64 3 364 2587
>>
>>
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From payhaag at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 26 09:09:03 2014
From: payhaag at hotmail.com (Pascale Haag)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 14 09:09:03 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] "Happiness" and "well-being" in Sanskrit literature
Message-ID: <DUB121-W4342FB2D5961493E673BDEA8700@phx.gbl>

Dear colleagues,



















I have started to work on the notions of well-being and happiness. In psychology and more generally in social sciences, current
conceptions of well-being and happiness often draw a
distinction between ?eudaimonic? and ?hedonic? perspectives, with reference to Classical Hellenic philosophy, notably Aristotle?s concept of eudaimonia
or Aristippus? notion of hedone (see e.g. Ryan & Deci, 2001; Ryff, 1989; Waterman,
1993, 2013). 
I wonder whether (or to what extent) such
conceptual frameworks are valid outside the Western context. I also try to find out how well-being and
happiness been conceptualised differently elsewhere, especially in India, in Sanskrit texts.





I have not found many bibliographical references so far (mostly papers by psychologists such as Kiran Kumar Salagame or Mohsen Joshanloo, and papers on ku"sala by Redesco and Cousins).
I would thus be extremely grateful for any suggestions.

If any member of the list is also interested in this topic, I am also interested in possible collaborations. Please let me know!

Best wishes,

Pascale Haag.


-------------
Associate professor
?cole des hautes ?tudes en sciences sociales
Institut de recherches interdisciplinaires sur les enjeux sociaux ? Sciences sociales, politique, sant? 
190, avenue de France
75013 Paris

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From payhaag at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 26 09:10:47 2014
From: payhaag at hotmail.com (Pascale Haag)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 14 09:10:47 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] "Happiness" and "well-being" in Sanskrit literature
In-Reply-To: <DUB121-W4342FB2D5961493E673BDEA8700@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <DUB121-W325CFDA03F0311DA1E7783A8700@phx.gbl>

Sorry, I meant "Tedesco"

From: payhaag at hotmail.com
To: indology at list.indology.info
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 09:09:03 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] "Happiness" and "well-being" in Sanskrit literature




Dear colleagues,



















I have started to work on the notions of well-being and happiness. In psychology and more generally in social sciences, current
conceptions of well-being and happiness often draw a
distinction between ?eudaimonic? and ?hedonic? perspectives, with reference to Classical Hellenic philosophy, notably Aristotle?s concept of eudaimonia
or Aristippus? notion of hedone (see e.g. Ryan & Deci, 2001; Ryff, 1989; Waterman,
1993, 2013). 
I wonder whether (or to what extent) such
conceptual frameworks are valid outside the Western context. I also try to find out how well-being and
happiness been conceptualised differently elsewhere, especially in India, in Sanskrit texts.





I have not found many bibliographical references so far (mostly papers by psychologists such as Kiran Kumar Salagame or Mohsen Joshanloo, and papers on ku"sala by Redesco and Cousins).
I would thus be extremely grateful for any suggestions.

If any member of the list is also interested in this topic, I am also interested in possible collaborations. Please let me know!

Best wishes,

Pascale Haag.


-------------
Associate professor
?cole des hautes ?tudes en sciences sociales
Institut de recherches interdisciplinaires sur les enjeux sociaux ? Sciences sociales, politique, sant? 
190, avenue de France
75013 Paris

http://iris.ehess.fr/index.php?1464
 
 		 	   		  

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From christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be  Wed Nov 26 10:18:06 2014
From: christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be (Christophe Vielle)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 14 11:18:06 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Sanskrit - English - German in India today
Message-ID: <1B7B2C71-DE42-4A1E-A517-F59E3FD7B77E@uclouvain.be>

http://www.thehindu.com/data/sanskrit-and-english-theres-no-competition/article6630269.ece?utm_source=vuukle&utm_medium=referral

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/smriti-turns-down-plea-to-make-sanskrit-compulsory/article6627938.ece?ref=relatedNews

???????????????????
Christophe Vielle
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From ssandahl at sympatico.ca  Wed Nov 26 14:11:59 2014
From: ssandahl at sympatico.ca (Stella Sandahl)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 14 09:11:59 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Withdrawing my book from Penguin Random House India
In-Reply-To: <CAKdt-CfQbnM-VVxnPprs3_zoHnn=StiFNY8iNuxMZ=w2ib15GA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU436-SMTP62B2649E5010331ED5331EBF700@phx.gbl>

Bravo Dominik!
Stella
--
Stella Sandahl
ssandahl at sympatico.ca



On Nov 25, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Dominik Wujastyk <wujastyk at GMAIL.COM> wrote:

> Dear colleagues, 
> 
> As will be well known to all of you, in February this year, Penguin Random House India settled terms with Dinanath Batra, rather than continue fightning in court, and agreed to stop publishing the book The Hindus: An Alternative History written by our academic colleague Wendy Doniger, and pulp all remaining copies.  
> 
> Penguin Books India (as it was then) also published a book of mine, The Roots of India, in their Penguin Classics series.  My book was handled, back in the day, by David Davidar and his staff, who did a fabulous job of editing and publishing the book. (I did the typesetting.)
> 
> In 1998, I was thrilled to have a book in the Penguin Classics series.  But I was correspondingly dismayed when my publisher prematurely capitulated in a patently winnable law case, and publicly cooperated with those who oppose free speech and promote a view of Indian history, culture and public life with which I profoundly disagree.
> 
> I therefore wrote to Random House Penguin India, saying that I was now ashamed to be associated with them, and that I would like to stop my book being published and distributed by them.  They wrote back (within five minutes) saying that they would let my book go, since they did not wish to hold on to an author who was unwilling to be published by them.  It has taken some time, but I have now signed the final papers severing my publication contract with Random House Penguin India.  All rights relating to the book have now reverted to me.  The negotiations were civil, even friendly.
> 
> There's a twist.  In 2002, Penguin Books India sold Penguin UK a license to publish my Roots book (they're different companies).  That resulted in a new, revised, re-typeset and freshly indexed third edition that appeared in 2003.  As I understand it, that 2003 UK edition (with Dhanvantari on the cover) remains available. 
> 
> I see that the USA edition of Wendy's The Hindus is currently being sold through the Penguin India website.  There's even a 21% discount.  That renders Batra's victory hollow.  
> 
> Sincerely,
> Dominik Wujastyk
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From hegartyjm at googlemail.com  Wed Nov 26 17:50:02 2014
From: hegartyjm at googlemail.com (James Hegarty)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 14 17:50:02 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Zoroastrianism and Indian religions
Message-ID: <7F0E6220-99FA-4C39-8D2C-24B25970CFE1@googlemail.com>

Dear Colleagues,

Can anyone point me to work that takes up possible connections (beyond a common Indo-European heritage) between Zoroastrianism and  Indic religions? I am especially interested in the period from the C5th BCE to the C5th CE.

Thanks and Best Wishes,

James Hegarty
Cardiff University 




From nagarajpaturi at gmail.com  Wed Nov 26 18:31:57 2014
From: nagarajpaturi at gmail.com (Nagaraj Paturi)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 14 00:01:57 +0530
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Sanskrit - English - German in India today
Message-ID: <CAJGj9eY200qphnqk9rMGwN3HZDO=WvWbv==pteacRQ29A=h1DA@mail.gmail.com>

What is the context of this 'competetion' ? Was there a statement /
hypothesis /thesis that Sanskrit is spoken as first language or second
language by more people than those who speak English as first or second
language?

If it is in the context of official language, currently in the Indian
Constitution there is only a mention of English after Hindi in this
context? Is there a proposal to remove English from this second position
and put Sanskrit in that place ? If yes, did those who made this proposal
argue that that should be done because Sanskrit has more first language or
second language speakers than English?

If it is in the context of three language formula, that is related to the
Sanskrit-German issue, English and Hindi have their permanent berths there
too. Sanskrit is being proposed for the third position only in some places
where the place of non-Hindi language of the Eighth Schedule of the Indian
constitution was not easily filled and Sanskrit is the logistically (on the
basis of availability of teachers in those places and a minimum number of
students opting for that language in those places) easier option. Where is
the need for discussion of  competition between English and Sanskrit ?

What is the context of providing a link to this news article ?

Is it to tell the list members that the list always focusses on such an
insignificant language of India which has very small number of first and
second language speakers? It is better to focus on English which has more
first and second language speakers than Sanskrit?

-- 
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Hyderabad-500044


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From mmdesh at umich.edu  Wed Nov 26 21:18:03 2014
From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 14 16:18:03 -0500
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_Mah=C4=81bh=C4=81=E1=B9=A3ya-Prad=C4=ABpa-Prak=C4=81=C5=9Ba_of_Pravartakop=C4=81dhy=C4=81ya?=
Message-ID: <CAB3-dzdpzsZCEF9PHMMeorpKN6UsPurPuKH97qzT5rDPaiApHg@mail.gmail.com>

I have been reading the Mah?bh??ya-Prad?pa-Prak??a of Pravartakop?dhy?ya
edited by M. S. Narasimhacharya and published in 1986 from Pondichery.
There is no introduction to this volume, and no information about the
author.  I am wondering if anyone else has come across any information
about this author.

-- 
Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
The University of Michigan
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From rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk  Thu Nov 27 19:44:37 2014
From: rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk (Rohana Seneviratne)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 14 19:44:37 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Vacaspati Misra's words
Message-ID: <263AADEB1C61774CB059F93BD3A6940B146484@MBX06.ad.oak.ox.ac.uk>

Dear List,

I will be grateful if anybody easily remember the source of the following words of Vacaspati Misra. It must be in one of his supercommentaries but I was unable to pinpoint it.

'ekasm?tisam?rohi??? var??n?m asaty apy arth?vabodhe suj??natv?t.'

Best Wishes,
Rohana
------------------------------------------------
Rohana Seneviratne
DPhil Student in Sanskrit
The Oriental Institute
Faculty of Oriental Studies
University of Oxford
Pusey Lane, Oxford
OX1 2LE
United Kingdom

Email: rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk
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From rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk  Thu Nov 27 19:47:40 2014
From: rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk (Rohana Seneviratne)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 14 19:47:40 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Vacaspati Misra's words
Message-ID: <263AADEB1C61774CB059F93BD3A6940B14648F@MBX06.ad.oak.ox.ac.uk>

Dear List,

I will be grateful if anybody could easily remember the source of the following words of Vacaspati Misra. It must be in one of his supercommentaries but I was unable to pinpoint it.

'ekasm?tisam?rohi??? var??n?m asaty apy arth?vabodhe suj??natv?t.'
[it is because of the easy comprehension of the phonemes which get on a single memory, even if there is no comprehension of meaning (from them)].

Thank you.

Best Wishes,
Rohana
------------------------------------------------
Rohana Seneviratne
DPhil Student in Sanskrit
The Oriental Institute
Faculty of Oriental Studies
University of Oxford
Pusey Lane, Oxford
OX1 2LE
United Kingdom

Email: rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk
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From mmdesh at umich.edu  Thu Nov 27 21:26:58 2014
From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 14 16:26:58 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Vacaspati Misra's words
In-Reply-To: <263AADEB1C61774CB059F93BD3A6940B146484@MBX06.ad.oak.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <CAB3-dzf+_XfT_LyyUtwrJPTuDvzXYAq19qoH0UdPwiMxC1cecw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Rohana,

     This passage occurs in V?caspati Mi?ra's Ny?ya-v?rttika-t?tparya-??k?
on the Ny?yas?tra 2,2.57.  I searched in the GRETIL digital version of this
text. Best,

Madhav Deshpande



On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Rohana Seneviratne <
rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk> wrote:

>  Dear List,
>
>  I will be grateful if anybody easily remember the source of the
> following words of Vacaspati Misra. It must be in one of his
> supercommentaries but I was unable to pinpoint it.
>
>  'ekasm?tisam?rohi??? var??n?m asaty apy arth?vabodhe suj??natv?t.'
>
>    Best Wishes,
> Rohana
> ------------------------------------------------
> Rohana Seneviratne
> DPhil Student in Sanskrit
> The Oriental Institute
> Faculty of Oriental Studies
> University of Oxford
> Pusey Lane, Oxford
> OX1 2LE
> United Kingdom
>
> Email: rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk
> Web: http://users.ox.ac.uk/~pemb3753/
>
> _______________________________________________
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-- 
Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
The University of Michigan
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From rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk  Thu Nov 27 21:59:05 2014
From: rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk (Rohana Seneviratne)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 14 21:59:05 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Vacaspati Misra's words
In-Reply-To: <263AADEB1C61774CB059F93BD3A6940B14648F@MBX06.ad.oak.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <263AADEB1C61774CB059F93BD3A6940B1464C4@MBX06.ad.oak.ox.ac.uk>

Much Thanks to Prof. Madhav Deshpande, I got to know in no time that this is from V?caspati Mi?ra's Ny?ya-v?rttika-t?tparya-??k? on the NS 2. 2. 57. I highly appreciate the precision of his expertise and willingness to help. And this Indology forum is proved awesome once again!

Best Wishes,
Rohana
------------------------------------------------
Rohana Seneviratne
DPhil Student in Sanskrit
The Oriental Institute
Faculty of Oriental Studies
University of Oxford
Pusey Lane, Oxford
OX1 2LE
United Kingdom

Email: rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk
Web: http://users.ox.ac.uk/~pemb3753/
________________________________
From: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] on behalf of Rohana Seneviratne [rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk]
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 7:47 PM
To: indology at list.indology.info
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Vacaspati Misra's words

Dear List,

I will be grateful if anybody could easily remember the source of the following words of Vacaspati Misra. It must be in one of his supercommentaries but I was unable to pinpoint it.

'ekasm?tisam?rohi??? var??n?m asaty apy arth?vabodhe suj??natv?t.'
[it is because of the easy comprehension of the phonemes which get on a single memory, even if there is no comprehension of meaning (from them)].

Thank you.

Best Wishes,
Rohana
------------------------------------------------
Rohana Seneviratne
DPhil Student in Sanskrit
The Oriental Institute
Faculty of Oriental Studies
University of Oxford
Pusey Lane, Oxford
OX1 2LE
United Kingdom

Email: rohana.seneviratne at orinst.ox.ac.uk
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From McComas.Taylor at anu.edu.au  Thu Nov 27 23:44:54 2014
From: McComas.Taylor at anu.edu.au (McComas Taylor)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 14 23:44:54 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Vedic Grammar online
Message-ID: <1417131893663.97797@anu.edu.au>

>From our wonderful student Martin Gluckman of the Vadic Society in Auroville:


--


We've completed the next small work to make the Vedic Grammar for Students available as an online reference, you can enjoy it here:

http://vedicgrammar.vedicsociety.org.in/

We've also made a link where you can compare classical to Vedic on one screen:

http://sanskritdictionary.com/comparative-grammar/

It's quite useful as mostly the paragraphs correspond in the two grammars so you can easily infer the differences.

...

Kindest Wishes,

Martin



________________________________
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Head, Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies, CHL, CAP
The Australian National University
Tel. + 61 2 6125 3179
Website: https://sites.google.com/site/mccomasanu/
Address: Baldessin Building 4.24, ANU, ACT 0200
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From gruenen at sub.uni-goettingen.de  Fri Nov 28 08:22:42 2014
From: gruenen at sub.uni-goettingen.de (Gruenendahl, Reinhold)
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 14 08:22:42 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Vedic Grammar online
In-Reply-To: <1417131893663.97797@anu.edu.au>
Message-ID: <044C4CE033BD474EBE2ACACE8E4B1D94A6659B51@UM-excdag-a02.um.gwdg.de>



 Some members may also consider this version:



https://opac.sub.uni-goettingen.de/DB=1.20//CMD?ACT=SRCHA&IKT=1016&SRT=YOP&TRM=ppn+593887387




It may not be as wonderful as the one advertised by McComas Taylor, but it is availavle for download, fully searchable, and has a detailed index/bookmarks. Incidentally, I updated it quite only ten days ago.


(For more e-books of Sanskrit grammars, etc. -- including Macdonnell's other "Vedic Grammar" --, please click the "KKD 330" tag.)



R. G.








________________________________
Von: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info]" im Auftrag von "McComas Taylor [McComas.Taylor at anu.edu.au]
Gesendet: Freitag, 28. November 2014 00:44
An: indology at list.indology.info List
Cc: Martin Gluckman
Betreff: [INDOLOGY] Vedic Grammar online


>From our wonderful student Martin Gluckman of the Vadic Society in Auroville:


--


We?ve completed the next small work to make the Vedic Grammar for Students available as an online reference, you can enjoy it here:

http://vedicgrammar.vedicsociety.org.in/

We?ve also made a link where you can compare classical to Vedic on one screen:

http://sanskritdictionary.com/comparative-grammar/

It?s quite useful as mostly the paragraphs correspond in the two grammars so you can easily infer the differences.

...

Kindest Wishes,

Martin



________________________________
McComas Taylor
Head, Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies, CHL, CAP
The Australian National University
Tel. + 61 2 6125 3179
Website: https://sites.google.com/site/mccomasanu/
Address: Baldessin Building 4.24, ANU, ACT 0200
________________________________
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From jean-luc.chevillard at univ-paris-diderot.fr  Fri Nov 28 08:54:54 2014
From: jean-luc.chevillard at univ-paris-diderot.fr (Jean-Luc CHEVILLARD)
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 14 09:54:54 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Mah&#257; bh&#257; &#7779; ya-Prad&#299; pa-Prak&#257; &#347; a of Pravartakop&#257; dhy&#257; ya
Message-ID: <web-146672699@univ-paris7.fr>

There is an interview of Pierre-Sylvain Filliozat
in The Hindu dated 27 november 2014.

The link is:

"http://www.thehindu.com/features/friday-review/interview-with-dr-pierre-sylvain-filliozat/article6639706.ece?ref=sliderNews"

The title is "Paninian from Paris".

The interview contains three reference to M. S. Narasimhacharya,
in the passages which read:

?Filliozat studied classical languages in Paris, and Vyakarana and 
Saiva agamas in Pondicherry, under M. S. Narasimhacharya and N.R. 
Bhatt, respectively. He learnt about Visishtadvaita too from 
Narasimhacharya.?

??Someone like my teacher Narasimhacharya, had no difficulty following 
any of this, because he had committed the Sutras to memory. But if you 
are using a book, you will have a tough time.??


-- Jean-Luc Chevillard

P.S. in case the WebMail through which I am sending this has messed up 
with the diacritics, I apologize in advance.


On 26/11/2014 22:18, Madhav Deshpande wrote:> I have been reading the 
Mah&#257;bh&#257;&#7779;ya-Prad&#299;pa-Prak&#257;&#347;a of 
Pravartakop&#257;dhy&#257;ya
> edited by M. S. Narasimhacharya and published in 1986 from Pondichery.  
> There is no introduction to this volume, and no information about the 
> author.  I am wondering if anyone else has come across any information 
> about this author.
> 
> -- 
> Madhav M. Deshpande
> Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
> Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
> 202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
> The University of Michigan
> Ann Arbor, MI 48104-1608, USA
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
> 





From gruenen at sub.uni-goettingen.de  Fri Nov 28 09:02:31 2014
From: gruenen at sub.uni-goettingen.de (Gruenendahl, Reinhold)
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 14 09:02:31 +0000
Subject: [INDOLOGY] GRETIL update #451
Message-ID: <044C4CE033BD474EBE2ACACE8E4B1D94A6659B72@UM-excdag-a02.um.gwdg.de>


GRETIL is pleased to be able to report the following addition(s) to its collection:


Dhammasangani: PTS/Dhammakaya edition, annotated and plain text
http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm#Dhamsan


Khuddakapatha: PTS/Dhammakaya edition, annotated and plain text
http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm#Khuddp



__________________________________________________________________________

"GRETIL is intended as a cumulative register of the numerous download sites for electronic texts in Indian languages." (from the 2001 "mission statement")

GRETIL - Goettingen Register of Electronic Texts in Indian Languages:

http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm





From josephine.brill at gmail.com  Fri Nov 28 12:23:30 2014
From: josephine.brill at gmail.com (Jo Brill)
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 14 06:23:30 -0600
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Mahabhasya-Pradipa-Prakasa of Pravartakopadhyaya
Message-ID: <CAMfMGiMmSyLmQhzN73hAduZY5-XmnaALo33zd99kRNDJa=+pdA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Professors Deshpande and Chevillard,

In trying to learn the full extent of K. V. Abhyankar's publications, I
just happened across his review of an earlier work by M. S.
Narasimhacharya. The review is more about the work than the author, but
here is the citation in case it may be of use. The Annals (truly a treasure
trove) readily yield more reviews of Narasimhacharya's work (including the
one first mentioned) so I've included a couple of those as well.

May I ask, do you suppose it could be V. S. Abhyankar to whom Dr. Filliozat
refers? How astonishing! Or perhaps an earlier member of that learned
family?

Best regards to all the list,
Jo

MAH?BH??YA PRAD?PA VY?KHY?N?NI (Vols. I and II) by M. S. Narasimhacharya
Review by: K. V. Abhyankar
Annals of the Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute, Vol. 56, No. 1/4
(1975), pp. 245-246.

MAH?BH??YAPRAD?PAPRAK??A par Pravartakop?dhy?ya by M. S. Narasimhacharya
Review by: G. B. Palsule
Annals of the Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute, Vol. 71, No. 1/4
(1990), pp. 376-377.

COMMENTARIES SUR LE MAH?BH??YA DE PATA?JALI, et le Prad?pa de Kaiya?a,
Mah?bh??ya-Prad?pa-Vy?khy?n?ni, III (Adhy?ya 1, P?da 1, ?hnika 8-9), IV
(Adhy?ya 1, P?da 2-4) by M. S. Narasimhacharya
Review by: S. D. Joshi
Annals of the Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute, Vol. 60, No. 1/4
(1979), pp. 286-288.

On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Jean-Luc CHEVILLARD <
jean-luc.chevillard at univ-paris-diderot.fr> wrote:

> There is an interview of Pierre-Sylvain Filliozat
> in The Hindu dated 27 november 2014.
>
> The link is:
>
> "http://www.thehindu.com/features/friday-review/interview-with-dr-pierre-
> sylvain-filliozat/article6639706.ece?ref=sliderNews"
>
> The title is "Paninian from Paris".
>
> The interview contains three reference to M. S. Narasimhacharya,
> in the passages which read:
>
> ?Filliozat studied classical languages in Paris, and Vyakarana and Saiva
> agamas in Pondicherry, under M. S. Narasimhacharya and N.R. Bhatt,
> respectively. He learnt about Visishtadvaita too from Narasimhacharya.?
>
> ??Someone like my teacher Narasimhacharya, had no difficulty following any
> of this, because he had committed the Sutras to memory. But if you are
> using a book, you will have a tough time.??
>
>
> -- Jean-Luc Chevillard
>
> P.S. in case the WebMail through which I am sending this has messed up
> with the diacritics, I apologize in advance.
>
>
> On 26/11/2014 22:18, Madhav Deshpande wrote:> I have been reading the
> Mah&#257;bh&#257;&#7779;ya-Prad&#299;pa-Prak&#257;&#347;a of
> Pravartakop&#257;dhy&#257;ya
>
>> edited by M. S. Narasimhacharya and published in 1986 from Pondichery.
>> There is no introduction to this volume, and no information about the
>> author.  I am wondering if anyone else has come across any information
>> about this author.
>>
>> --
>> Madhav M. Deshpande
>> Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
>> Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
>> 202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
>> The University of Michigan
>> Ann Arbor, MI 48104-1608, USA
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>> http://listinfo.indology.info
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
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From mmdesh at umich.edu  Fri Nov 28 13:19:12 2014
From: mmdesh at umich.edu (Madhav Deshpande)
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 14 08:19:12 -0500
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Mahabhasya-Pradipa-Prakasa of Pravartakopadhyaya
In-Reply-To: <CAMfMGiMmSyLmQhzN73hAduZY5-XmnaALo33zd99kRNDJa=+pdA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAB3-dzfbu9wGYcXOPB1YpvGO4Jx5JGXgWcf1w84CPxE5Dt9ZxQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Jo,

     Thanks for pointing to reviews of the editions of Mah?bh??ya Prad?pa
Vy?khy?n?ni and the Prak??a of Pravartakop?dhy?ya published in the ABORI.
I have the ABORI volumes in my personal library and will check those
reviews.
     Professor Pierre Filliozat does seem to be referring to V. S.
Abhyankar, rather than to his son K. V. Abhyankar.  I don't know the source
of Professor Filliozat's information that [Vasudeva Shastri] Abhyankar
could not read or write, and had to depend upon scribes.  This does not
appear to be true.  Vasudeva Shastri was appointed as Professor of Sanskrit
at the Fergusson College by the recommendation of R. G. Bhandarkar, and
edited and translated [into Marathi] many Sanskrit works, including the
entire Mah?bh??ya of Pata?jali and the Bh??ya of ?a?kara on the
Brahma-S?tras.  I knew Professor K. V. Abhyankar very well, and he showed
me manuscripts of works written by his father, and I have a photocopy of
one of those manuscripts,  a work  titled Y?ju?a-hautra-vic?ra.  So the
information that Vasudeva Shastri Abhyankar could not read or write is not
likely to be correct.  Best,

Madhav Deshpande

On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 7:23 AM, Jo Brill <josephine.brill at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Professors Deshpande and Chevillard,
>
> In trying to learn the full extent of K. V. Abhyankar's publications, I
> just happened across his review of an earlier work by M. S.
> Narasimhacharya. The review is more about the work than the author, but
> here is the citation in case it may be of use. The Annals (truly a treasure
> trove) readily yield more reviews of Narasimhacharya's work (including the
> one first mentioned) so I've included a couple of those as well.
>
> May I ask, do you suppose it could be V. S. Abhyankar to whom Dr.
> Filliozat refers? How astonishing! Or perhaps an earlier member of that
> learned family?
>
> Best regards to all the list,
> Jo
>
> MAH?BH??YA PRAD?PA VY?KHY?N?NI (Vols. I and II) by M. S. Narasimhacharya
> Review by: K. V. Abhyankar
> Annals of the Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute, Vol. 56, No. 1/4
> (1975), pp. 245-246.
>
> MAH?BH??YAPRAD?PAPRAK??A par Pravartakop?dhy?ya by M. S. Narasimhacharya
> Review by: G. B. Palsule
> Annals of the Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute, Vol. 71, No. 1/4
> (1990), pp. 376-377.
>
> COMMENTARIES SUR LE MAH?BH??YA DE PATA?JALI, et le Prad?pa de Kaiya?a,
> Mah?bh??ya-Prad?pa-Vy?khy?n?ni, III (Adhy?ya 1, P?da 1, ?hnika 8-9), IV
> (Adhy?ya 1, P?da 2-4) by M. S. Narasimhacharya
> Review by: S. D. Joshi
> Annals of the Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute, Vol. 60, No. 1/4
> (1979), pp. 286-288.
>
> On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Jean-Luc CHEVILLARD <
> jean-luc.chevillard at univ-paris-diderot.fr> wrote:
>
>> There is an interview of Pierre-Sylvain Filliozat
>> in The Hindu dated 27 november 2014.
>>
>> The link is:
>>
>> "http://www.thehindu.com/features/friday-review/interview-with-dr-pierre-
>> sylvain-filliozat/article6639706.ece?ref=sliderNews"
>>
>> The title is "Paninian from Paris".
>>
>> The interview contains three reference to M. S. Narasimhacharya,
>> in the passages which read:
>>
>> ?Filliozat studied classical languages in Paris, and Vyakarana and Saiva
>> agamas in Pondicherry, under M. S. Narasimhacharya and N.R. Bhatt,
>> respectively. He learnt about Visishtadvaita too from Narasimhacharya.?
>>
>> ??Someone like my teacher Narasimhacharya, had no difficulty following
>> any of this, because he had committed the Sutras to memory. But if you are
>> using a book, you will have a tough time.??
>>
>>
>> -- Jean-Luc Chevillard
>>
>> P.S. in case the WebMail through which I am sending this has messed up
>> with the diacritics, I apologize in advance.
>>
>>
>> On 26/11/2014 22:18, Madhav Deshpande wrote:> I have been reading the
>> Mah&#257;bh&#257;&#7779;ya-Prad&#299;pa-Prak&#257;&#347;a of
>> Pravartakop&#257;dhy&#257;ya
>>
>>> edited by M. S. Narasimhacharya and published in 1986 from Pondichery.
>>> There is no introduction to this volume, and no information about the
>>> author.  I am wondering if anyone else has come across any information
>>> about this author.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Madhav M. Deshpande
>>> Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
>>> Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
>>> 202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
>>> The University of Michigan
>>> Ann Arbor, MI 48104-1608, USA
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>>> http://listinfo.indology.info
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>> http://listinfo.indology.info
>>
>
>


-- 
Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
The University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48104-1608, USA


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From psdmccartney at gmail.com  Fri Nov 28 16:13:59 2014
From: psdmccartney at gmail.com (patrick mccartney)
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 14 17:13:59 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] visa on arrival
Message-ID: <CAEzwJrDLivw9HqnDY3R_qcxQ7BqT3sjUFNqovAX-KtiQUv1-VA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear All,

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From christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be  Fri Nov 28 17:23:03 2014
From: christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be (Christophe Vielle)
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 14 18:23:03 +0100
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_More_about_P.C._Bagchi_(and_S._L=C3=A9vi)?=
In-Reply-To: <CABEB9q+eubkPn0Sp=aX5te3e587ZH427q7Jon+MzmKN6bk4rSQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <56C67E9A-1CDC-4231-865F-EF024F3D869C@uclouvain.be>

About P.C. Bagchi (1898-1956), it should be added that a collection of his papers has been published this year in Kolkata.
See the complete reference with the Table of contents at:
http://www.vedamsbooks.com/product_detail_print.htm?pid=86305

A previous "P.C. Bagchi Centenary Volume" was issued in 2009 - Table of contents available at:
http://www.dkagencies.com/doc/from/1063/to/1123/bkId/DK82533217162656333810761071/details.html

The Wikipedia article on this author is rather furnished:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prabodh_Chandra_Bagchi

Best wishes,
Christophe Vielle

Le 21 nov. 2014 ? 17:10, Dipak Bhattacharya <dipak.d2004 at gmail.com> a ?crit :
> 21.11.14
> 
> Thanks, dear colleagues! Bagchi's translation is available here but not the original.
> 
> I just relate some old anecdotes. We owe it to the poet Tagore that Bagchi translated the work into English. L?vi made such an impression upon Tagore that the latter requested L?vi to train Bagchi in his own way. L?vi and Bagchi became legends at Santiniketan.
> 
> I also thank Professor Houben who was instrumental in my becoming a member of Indology.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> DB
> 
>  

> De: Christophe Vielle <christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be>
> Objet: R?p : Converted files of Bagchi
> Date: 15 novembre 2014 12:34:54 UTC+1
> 
> Thank you very much for this, 
> I just discover your message in the same time as the one of Peter Peter Wyzlic below.
> Best wishes,
> Christophe Vielle

> 
> Ok, I worked a bit on the files (reducing the size, adding OCR [a rather crude one], changing the page orientations). You will find Vol. 1 under URL: <https://archive.org/details/BagchiCanonBouddhiqueChineVol1>
> Vol. 2 under URL: <https://archive.org/details/BagchiCanonBouddhiqueChineVol2>
> 
> But the entry is currently processed by the Archive.org uploading system, so it may take some time to be ready. So look in some hours or the next day. When the files are ready I can add links from Vol 1 to Vol 2 and vice versa.
> 
> All the best
> Peter Wyzlic
> 
> Le 15 nov. 2014 ? 03:23, Seishi Karashima a ?crit :
> 
>> Dear Dr. Vielle,
>> I have made the PDF files, which you kindly placed on INDOLOGY, searchable.
>> With best regards,
>> Seishi Karashima
>> IRIAB, Soka University, Tokyo???
>>  Bagchi_Le_Canon_Bouddhique_en_Chine_vol.1.pdf
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0oQFMvTS9kWcC0tbWRBbGo3SGc/edit?pli=1
>> ??
>>  Bagchi_Le_Canon_Bouddhique_en_Chine_vol.2.pdf
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0oQFMvTS9kWakRVUHI2eE9zbDA/edit?pli=1
>> ???


???????????????????
Christophe Vielle
Louvain-la-Neuve



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From joerg.gengnagel at urz.uni-heidelberg.de  Fri Nov 28 17:24:17 2014
From: joerg.gengnagel at urz.uni-heidelberg.de (Joerg Gengnagel)
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 14 18:24:17 +0100
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Two PhD positions Mumbai Research Project University of	Bergen
Message-ID: <5478AFC1.4070106@urz.uni-heidelberg.de>

Dear Colleagues,

I was asked by Istv?n Keul, University of Bergen, to forward the 
following links with announcements of two PhD positions in a Mumbai 
research project at the University of Bergen:

http://www.jobbnorge.no/en/available-jobs/job/107640/phd-position-in-the-project-religion-in-public-spaces-in-mumbai 

http://www.jobbnorge.no/en/available-jobs/job/107642/phd-position-in-the-project-religion-and-violence-in-mumbai 


Best

J?rg Gengnagel

-- 
apl. Prof. Dr. J?rg Gengnagel
South Asia Institute
Department of Cultural and Religious History of South Asia (Classical Indology)
Research Group "Waterscapes in Transcultural Perspective" (Cluster "Asia and Europe")
BMBF-Project "Weltweites Zellwerk": Garnet in South Asia: Historical and Archeological Sources
Im Neuenheimer Feld 330
D-69120 Heidelberg
phone: +49(0)6221/54-8906
fax:   +49(0)6221/54-8841

www.sai.uni-heidelberg.de
www.asia-europe.uni-heidelberg.de
www.kashidarpana.uni-hd.de
http://web.rgzm.de/forschung/schwerpunkte-und-projekte/a/article/weltweites-zellwerk.html






From kauzeya at gmail.com  Fri Nov 28 18:22:00 2014
From: kauzeya at gmail.com (Jonathan Silk)
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 14 19:22:00 +0100
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_More_about_P.C._Bagchi_(and_S._L=C3=A9vi)?=
In-Reply-To: <56C67E9A-1CDC-4231-865F-EF024F3D869C@uclouvain.be>
Message-ID: <CAMGmO4JWG__5Yed3YTyuwPPXwc9j8Mi2j6r1J1g0dWMXYubqxQ@mail.gmail.com>

I do not know the history of the second mentioned volume, but it cannot
actually date from 2009 since several of the contributors listed on the
website were quite long dead by that date... I also notice the astonishing
price asked for the first listed volume--incredible for books printed in
India, I find.

Cordially, Jonathan Silk

On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Christophe Vielle <
christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be> wrote:

> About P.C. Bagchi (1898-1956), it should be added that a collection of his
> papers has been published this year in Kolkata.
> See the complete reference with the Table of contents at:
> http://www.vedamsbooks.com/product_detail_print.htm?pid=86305
>
> A previous "P.C. Bagchi Centenary Volume" was issued in 2009 - Table of
> contents available at:
>
> http://www.dkagencies.com/doc/from/1063/to/1123/bkId/DK82533217162656333810761071/details.html
>
> The Wikipedia article on this author is rather furnished:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prabodh_Chandra_Bagchi
>
> Best wishes,
> Christophe Vielle
>
> Le 21 nov. 2014 ? 17:10, Dipak Bhattacharya <dipak.d2004 at gmail.com> a
> ?crit :
>
> 21.11.14
>
> Thanks, dear colleagues! Bagchi's translation is available here but not
> the original.
>
> I just relate some old anecdotes. We owe it to the poet Tagore that Bagchi
> translated the work into English. L?vi made such an impression upon Tagore
> that the latter requested L?vi to train Bagchi in his own way. L?vi and
> Bagchi became legends at Santiniketan.
>
> I also thank Professor Houben who was instrumental in my becoming a member
> of Indology.
>
> Best wishes
>
> DB
>
>
>
> *De: *Christophe Vielle <christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be>
> *Objet: **R?p : Converted files of Bagchi*
> *Date: *15 novembre 2014 12:34:54 UTC+1
>
> Thank you very much for this,
> I just discover your message in the same time as the one of Peter Peter
> Wyzlic below.
> Best wishes,
> Christophe Vielle
>
>
>
> Ok, I worked a bit on the files (reducing the size, adding OCR [a rather
> crude one], changing the page orientations). You will find Vol. 1 under
> URL: <https://archive.org/details/BagchiCanonBouddhiqueChineVol1>
> Vol. 2 under URL: <
> https://archive.org/details/BagchiCanonBouddhiqueChineVol2>
>
> But the entry is currently processed by the Archive.org
> <http://archive.org/> uploading system, so it may take some time to be
> ready. So look in some hours or the next day. When the files are ready I
> can add links from Vol 1 to Vol 2 and vice versa.
>
> All the best
> Peter Wyzlic
>
> Le 15 nov. 2014 ? 03:23, Seishi Karashima a ?crit :
>
> Dear Dr. Vielle,
> I have made the PDF files, which you kindly placed on INDOLOGY, searchable.
> With best regards,
> Seishi Karashima
> IRIAB, Soka University, Tokyo???
>  Bagchi_Le_Canon_Bouddhique_en_Chine_vol.1.pdf
> <https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0oQFMvTS9kWcC0tbWRBbGo3SGc/edit?usp=drive_web>
>
> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0oQFMvTS9kWcC0tbWRBbGo3SGc/edit?pli=1
>
> ??
>  Bagchi_Le_Canon_Bouddhique_en_Chine_vol.2.pdf
> <https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0oQFMvTS9kWakRVUHI2eE9zbDA/edit?usp=drive_web>
>
> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0oQFMvTS9kWakRVUHI2eE9zbDA/edit?pli=1
>
> ???
>
>
> ???????????????????
> Christophe Vielle <http://www.uclouvain.be/christophe.vielle>
> Louvain-la-Neuve
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
>



-- 
J. Silk
Leiden University
Leiden University Institute for Area Studies, LIAS
Matthias de Vrieshof 3, Room 0.05b
2311 BZ Leiden
The Netherlands

copies of my publications may be found at
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From noemie.verdon at unil.ch  Sat Nov 29 10:25:34 2014
From: noemie.verdon at unil.ch (Noemie Verdon)
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 14 11:25:34 +0100
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?[INDOLOGY]_Article_:_"M=C3=A2tharavrtti_and_the_date_of_Isvarakrsna"?=
In-Reply-To: <CAMGmO4JWG__5Yed3YTyuwPPXwc9j8Mi2j6r1J1g0dWMXYubqxQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54799F1E.6020305@unil.ch>

Dear list members,

I am looking for the following article by S.K. Belvalkar :

M?tharavrtti and the date of Isvarakrsna, in Bhandarkar Commemorative 
Essays, Poona 1917, pp.171-184

I would be very grateful if any one of you could help me with this.

Regards

*************************************
No?mie Verdon, PhD Student
Department of Languages and Cultures of South-Asia
Anthropole -- 4081 -- UNIL - 1015 Lausanne - Switzerland
ph. : +41 21 692 53 01 - +41 78 613 30 96
email : noemie.verdon at unil.ch




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From noemie.verdon at unil.ch  Sat Nov 29 14:22:22 2014
From: noemie.verdon at unil.ch (Noemie Verdon)
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 14 15:22:22 +0100
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_Article_:_"M=C3=A2tharavrtti_and_the_date_of_Isvarakrsna"?=
In-Reply-To: <CAB3-dzd_wAHiCp-ebQVMZNS4S9wZjKwMj_rgPuQ1g4rVJXa6gA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5479D69E.6020208@unil.ch>

Many thanks to Madhav Deshpande and Rohanna Seneviratne for their quick 
and useful answers,

All the best,

No?mie


Le 29.11.14 13:29, Madhav Deshpande a ?crit :
> Hello No?mie,
>
>    I have attached the pdf of the Bhandarkar Comm. volume that 
> contains the article of Belvalkar that you are looking for.  Best,
>
> Madhav Deshpande
>
> On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 5:25 AM, Noemie Verdon <noemie.verdon at unil.ch 
> <mailto:noemie.verdon at unil.ch>> wrote:
>
>     Dear list members,
>
>     I am looking for the following article by S.K. Belvalkar :
>
>     M?tharavrtti and the date of Isvarakrsna, in Bhandarkar
>     Commemorative Essays, Poona 1917, pp.171-184
>
>     I would be very grateful if any one of you could help me with this.
>
>     Regards
>
>     *************************************
>     No?mie Verdon, PhD Student
>     Department of Languages and Cultures of South-Asia
>     Anthropole ? 4081 ? UNIL - 1015 Lausanne - Switzerland
>     ph. : +41 21 692 53 01 <tel:%2B41%2021%20692%2053%2001> - +41 78
>     613 30 96 <tel:%2B41%2078%20613%2030%2096>
>     email : noemie.verdon at unil.ch <mailto:noemie.verdon at unil.ch>
>
>
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     INDOLOGY mailing list
>     INDOLOGY at list.indology.info <mailto:INDOLOGY at list.indology.info>
>     http://listinfo.indology.info
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Madhav M. Deshpande
> Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
> Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
> 202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
> The University of Michigan
> Ann Arbor, MI 48104-1608, USA



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From wujastyk at gmail.com  Sat Nov 29 15:19:05 2014
From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 14 16:19:05 +0100
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]=09Article_:_"M=C3=A2tharavrtti_and_the_date_of_Isvarakrsna"?=
In-Reply-To: <54799F1E.6020305@unil.ch>
Message-ID: <CAKdt-CfhEQpEBw+a-V7q4QAsu+167-x6R=FTCMf2PSG2Y9Wuww@mail.gmail.com>

The book is in The Archive
<https://archive.org/details/commemorativeess00bhanuoft>.  High-quality
scan, too.
Best,
Dominik Wujastyk

On 29 November 2014 at 11:25, Noemie Verdon <noemie.verdon at unil.ch> wrote:

>  Dear list members,
>
> I am looking for the following article by S.K. Belvalkar :
>
> M?tharavrtti and the date of Isvarakrsna, in Bhandarkar Commemorative
> Essays, Poona 1917, pp.171-184
>
> I would be very grateful if any one of you could help me with this.
>
> Regards
>
> *************************************
> No?mie Verdon, PhD Student
> Department of Languages and Cultures of South-Asia
> Anthropole ? 4081 ? UNIL - 1015 Lausanne - Switzerland
> ph. : +41 21 692 53 01 - +41 78 613 30 96
> email : noemie.verdon at unil.ch
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
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From wujastyk at gmail.com  Sat Nov 29 15:38:01 2014
From: wujastyk at gmail.com (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 14 16:38:01 +0100
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]=09Article_:_"M=C3=A2tharavrtti_and_the_date_of_Isvarakrsna"?=
In-Reply-To: <54799F1E.6020305@unil.ch>
Message-ID: <CAKdt-CcapKYwg7NNXOoO3aWVagzsEXnoyOx1-5vF_ZdHOH2_qQ@mail.gmail.com>

PS, there is a manuscript copy of the M??harav?tti (S??khyasaptaty? v?tti)
in the Wellcome Library, London.  Shelved at

   - Wellcome MS Indic ? 915 (= alpha 915)

and described at serial no. 462, p. 114, of v.1 of the Handlist of the
collection (also in The Archive
<https://archive.org/stream/AHandlistOfTheSanskritAndPrakritManuscriptsInTheLibraryOfThe/1985Wujastyk_aHandlistOfSanskritAndPrakritManuscriptsInTheWellcomeInstituteForTheHistoryOfMedicineV1_1985#page/n129/mode/1up>).


Best,

Dominik Wujastyk


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From e.ciurtin at gmail.com  Sat Nov 29 16:46:01 2014
From: e.ciurtin at gmail.com (Eugen Ciurtin)
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 14 18:46:01 +0200
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]=09More_about_P.C._Bagchi_(and_S._L=C3=A9vi)?=
In-Reply-To: <CAMGmO4JWG__5Yed3YTyuwPPXwc9j8Mi2j6r1J1g0dWMXYubqxQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAeSjSJ-jsBkrUqA12TKjxqbnsSeBCi54VLntC0DB5ALvBfsTQ@mail.gmail.com>

The mystery of this 2009 publication may perhaps be solved taking into
account the opening lines of Akira Yuyama's most valuable overview (listed
on wiki too) of Bagchi's oeuvre:

[image: Images int?gr?es 1]
If the plan started in 1997, then this would explain the presence of
scholars like *e.g.* Alex Wayman (d. 2004).

A more recent discussion of L?vi-Bagchi links regarding a 'Greater India'
is Susan Bayly, Sylvain L?vi and the Greater India Society', in Lyne
Bansat-Boudon, Roland Lardinois (dir.), Isabelle Rati? (coll.), *Sylvain
L?vi (1863-1935): ?tudes indiennes, histoire sociale*, Turnhout: Brepols,
2007, with a review in *Bulletin d'?tudes Indiennes* 28-29 (2010-2011)
[2013], pp. 408-418.

Kind regards,
Eugen Ciurtin
(Institute for the History of Religions, Bucharest)



2014-11-28 20:22 GMT+02:00 Jonathan Silk <kauzeya at gmail.com>:

> I do not know the history of the second mentioned volume, but it cannot
> actually date from 2009 since several of the contributors listed on the
> website were quite long dead by that date... I also notice the astonishing
> price asked for the first listed volume--incredible for books printed in
> India, I find.
>
> Cordially, Jonathan Silk
>
> On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Christophe Vielle <
> christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be> wrote:
>
>> About P.C. Bagchi (1898-1956), it should be added that a collection of
>> his papers has been published this year in Kolkata.
>> See the complete reference with the Table of contents at:
>> http://www.vedamsbooks.com/product_detail_print.htm?pid=86305
>>
>> A previous "P.C. Bagchi Centenary Volume" was issued in 2009 - Table of
>> contents available at:
>>
>> http://www.dkagencies.com/doc/from/1063/to/1123/bkId/DK82533217162656333810761071/details.html
>>
>> The Wikipedia article on this author is rather furnished:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prabodh_Chandra_Bagchi
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Christophe Vielle
>>
>> Le 21 nov. 2014 ? 17:10, Dipak Bhattacharya <dipak.d2004 at gmail.com> a
>> ?crit :
>>
>> 21.11.14
>>
>> Thanks, dear colleagues! Bagchi's translation is available here but not
>> the original.
>>
>> I just relate some old anecdotes. We owe it to the poet Tagore that
>> Bagchi translated the work into English. L?vi made such an impression upon
>> Tagore that the latter requested L?vi to train Bagchi in his own way. L?vi
>> and Bagchi became legends at Santiniketan.
>>
>> I also thank Professor Houben who was instrumental in my becoming a
>> member of Indology.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> DB
>>
>>
>>
>> *De: *Christophe Vielle <christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be>
>> *Objet: **R?p : Converted files of Bagchi*
>> *Date: *15 novembre 2014 12:34:54 UTC+1
>>
>> Thank you very much for this,
>> I just discover your message in the same time as the one of Peter Peter
>> Wyzlic below.
>> Best wishes,
>> Christophe Vielle
>>
>>
>>
>> Ok, I worked a bit on the files (reducing the size, adding OCR [a rather
>> crude one], changing the page orientations). You will find Vol. 1 under
>> URL: <https://archive.org/details/BagchiCanonBouddhiqueChineVol1>
>> Vol. 2 under URL: <
>> https://archive.org/details/BagchiCanonBouddhiqueChineVol2>
>>
>> But the entry is currently processed by the Archive.org
>> <http://archive.org/> uploading system, so it may take some time to be
>> ready. So look in some hours or the next day. When the files are ready I
>> can add links from Vol 1 to Vol 2 and vice versa.
>>
>> All the best
>> Peter Wyzlic
>>
>> Le 15 nov. 2014 ? 03:23, Seishi Karashima a ?crit :
>>
>> Dear Dr. Vielle,
>> I have made the PDF files, which you kindly placed on INDOLOGY,
>> searchable.
>> With best regards,
>> Seishi Karashima
>> IRIAB, Soka University, Tokyo
>>  Bagchi_Le_Canon_Bouddhique_en_Chine_vol.1.pdf
>> <https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0oQFMvTS9kWcC0tbWRBbGo3SGc/edit?usp=drive_web>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0oQFMvTS9kWcC0tbWRBbGo3SGc/edit?pli=1
>>
>> 
>>  Bagchi_Le_Canon_Bouddhique_en_Chine_vol.2.pdf
>> <https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0oQFMvTS9kWakRVUHI2eE9zbDA/edit?usp=drive_web>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0oQFMvTS9kWakRVUHI2eE9zbDA/edit?pli=1
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> -------------------
>> Christophe Vielle <http://www.uclouvain.be/christophe.vielle>
>> Louvain-la-Neuve
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>> http://listinfo.indology.info
>>
>
>
>
> --
> J. Silk
> Leiden University
> Leiden University Institute for Area Studies, LIAS
> Matthias de Vrieshof 3, Room 0.05b
> 2311 BZ Leiden
> The Netherlands
>
> copies of my publications may be found at
> http://www.buddhismandsocialjustice.com/silk_publications.html
>
> _______________________________________________
> INDOLOGY mailing list
> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
> http://listinfo.indology.info
>



-- 
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Secretary of the Romanian Association for the History of Religions

Publications Officer of the European Association for the Study of Religions
www.easr.eu

Lecturer & Secretary of the Scientific Council
Institute for the History of Religions, Romanian Academy
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From kauzeya at gmail.com  Sat Nov 29 17:07:05 2014
From: kauzeya at gmail.com (Jonathan Silk)
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 14 18:07:05 +0100
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]_More_about_P.C._Bagchi_(and_S._L=C3=A9vi)?=
In-Reply-To: <CAAeSjSJ-jsBkrUqA12TKjxqbnsSeBCi54VLntC0DB5ALvBfsTQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMGmO4KYqcVYHw5hkFDBS76esfr=Z=EZfCYKQht6OWiOqEK4pA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks to both colleagues for clearing up this small bibliographic mystery.
Somewhere someone must have compiled a list of the longest period of time
an article has remained 'forthcoming' of 'in the press'--one hears over the
years various tales of works appearing decades after the death of many
contributors, but I've not yet seen an actual compilation (which,
considering the virtually innumerable ridiculous lists on the internet,
might be a project less weird than some which actually exist!).
With thanks, jonathan

On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Eugen Ciurtin <e.ciurtin at gmail.com> wrote:

> The mystery of this 2009 publication may perhaps be solved taking into
> account the opening lines of Akira Yuyama's most valuable overview (listed
> on wiki too) of Bagchi's oeuvre:
>
> [image: Images int?gr?es 1]
> If the plan started in 1997, then this would explain the presence of
> scholars like *e.g.* Alex Wayman (d. 2004).
>
> A more recent discussion of L?vi-Bagchi links regarding a 'Greater India'
> is Susan Bayly, Sylvain L?vi and the Greater India Society?, in Lyne
> Bansat?Boudon, Roland Lardinois (dir.), Isabelle Rati? (coll.), *Sylvain
> L?vi (1863?1935): ?tudes indiennes, histoire sociale*, Turnhout: Brepols,
> 2007, with a review in *Bulletin d??tudes Indiennes* 28?29 (2010?2011)
> [2013], pp. 408?418.
>
> Kind regards,
> Eugen Ciurtin
> (Institute for the History of Religions, Bucharest)
>
>
>
> 2014-11-28 20:22 GMT+02:00 Jonathan Silk <kauzeya at gmail.com>:
>
>> I do not know the history of the second mentioned volume, but it cannot
>> actually date from 2009 since several of the contributors listed on the
>> website were quite long dead by that date... I also notice the astonishing
>> price asked for the first listed volume--incredible for books printed in
>> India, I find.
>>
>> Cordially, Jonathan Silk
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Christophe Vielle <
>> christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be> wrote:
>>
>>> About P.C. Bagchi (1898-1956), it should be added that a collection of
>>> his papers has been published this year in Kolkata.
>>> See the complete reference with the Table of contents at:
>>> http://www.vedamsbooks.com/product_detail_print.htm?pid=86305
>>>
>>> A previous "P.C. Bagchi Centenary Volume" was issued in 2009 - Table of
>>> contents available at:
>>>
>>> http://www.dkagencies.com/doc/from/1063/to/1123/bkId/DK82533217162656333810761071/details.html
>>>
>>> The Wikipedia article on this author is rather furnished:
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prabodh_Chandra_Bagchi
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Christophe Vielle
>>>
>>> Le 21 nov. 2014 ? 17:10, Dipak Bhattacharya <dipak.d2004 at gmail.com> a
>>> ?crit :
>>>
>>> 21.11.14
>>>
>>> Thanks, dear colleagues! Bagchi's translation is available here but not
>>> the original.
>>>
>>> I just relate some old anecdotes. We owe it to the poet Tagore that
>>> Bagchi translated the work into English. L?vi made such an impression upon
>>> Tagore that the latter requested L?vi to train Bagchi in his own way. L?vi
>>> and Bagchi became legends at Santiniketan.
>>>
>>> I also thank Professor Houben who was instrumental in my becoming a
>>> member of Indology.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> DB
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *De: *Christophe Vielle <christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be>
>>> *Objet: **R?p : Converted files of Bagchi*
>>> *Date: *15 novembre 2014 12:34:54 UTC+1
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for this,
>>> I just discover your message in the same time as the one of Peter Peter
>>> Wyzlic below.
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Christophe Vielle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ok, I worked a bit on the files (reducing the size, adding OCR [a rather
>>> crude one], changing the page orientations). You will find Vol. 1 under
>>> URL: <https://archive.org/details/BagchiCanonBouddhiqueChineVol1>
>>> Vol. 2 under URL: <
>>> https://archive.org/details/BagchiCanonBouddhiqueChineVol2>
>>>
>>> But the entry is currently processed by the Archive.org
>>> <http://archive.org/> uploading system, so it may take some time to be
>>> ready. So look in some hours or the next day. When the files are ready I
>>> can add links from Vol 1 to Vol 2 and vice versa.
>>>
>>> All the best
>>> Peter Wyzlic
>>>
>>> Le 15 nov. 2014 ? 03:23, Seishi Karashima a ?crit :
>>>
>>> Dear Dr. Vielle,
>>> I have made the PDF files, which you kindly placed on INDOLOGY,
>>> searchable.
>>> With best regards,
>>> Seishi Karashima
>>> IRIAB, Soka University, Tokyo
>>>  Bagchi_Le_Canon_Bouddhique_en_Chine_vol.1.pdf
>>> <https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0oQFMvTS9kWcC0tbWRBbGo3SGc/edit?usp=drive_web>
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0oQFMvTS9kWcC0tbWRBbGo3SGc/edit?pli=1
>>>
>>>
>>>  Bagchi_Le_Canon_Bouddhique_en_Chine_vol.2.pdf
>>> <https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0oQFMvTS9kWakRVUHI2eE9zbDA/edit?usp=drive_web>
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0oQFMvTS9kWakRVUHI2eE9zbDA/edit?pli=1
>>>
>>>
>>> ???????????????????
>>> Christophe Vielle <http://www.uclouvain.be/christophe.vielle>
>>> Louvain-la-Neuve
>>>
>>>
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>> J. Silk
>> Leiden University
>> Leiden University Institute for Area Studies, LIAS
>> Matthias de Vrieshof 3, Room 0.05b
>> 2311 BZ Leiden
>> The Netherlands
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>> copies of my publications may be found at
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J. Silk
Leiden University
Leiden University Institute for Area Studies, LIAS
Matthias de Vrieshof 3, Room 0.05b
2311 BZ Leiden
The Netherlands

copies of my publications may be found at
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From mkapstei at uchicago.edu  Sun Nov 30 08:30:07 2014
From: mkapstei at uchicago.edu (Matthew Kapstein)
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 14 08:30:07 +0000
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[INDOLOGY]=09More_about_P.C._Bagchi_(and_S._L=C3=A9vi)?=
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Message-ID: <82C3E42590D939418C74DD76B97DDED0374A8A8A@xm-mbx-04-prod.ad.uchicago.edu>

I believe that a recod of sorts may be held by Alexander Csoma de Koros's edition of the
MahAvyutpatti, which was submitted for publication (by the Asiatic Society, Calcutta)
 in about 1830 and finally released in
three fascicles in 1910, 1916 and 1944, by which time it had long been superseded, of
course, by Sakaki's edition.

Matthew Kapstein
Directeur d'?tudes,
Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes

Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies,
The University of Chicago
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From jpo at uts.cc.utexas.edu  Sun Nov 30 23:01:43 2014
From: jpo at uts.cc.utexas.edu (Patrick Olivelle)
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 14 17:01:43 -0600
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Fwd:
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Thought this may interest some of you: 19th century Indian women studying medicine in the USA.

Patrick





> http://scroll.in/article/659624/Remarkable-photos-of-19th-century-Indian-women-in-US-medical-school
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