Re: [INDOLOGY] Nārāyaṇagarta and Kayyaṭa Kashmiri pandits

Sat Feb 8 12:05:16 UTC 2014

Dear Alessandro,

As already pointed out by Prof. Slaje and Porf. Lubin, bha and ta (and 
in Sarada, rta and rbha) are easily confused in some South Asian scripts 
(to the Nandinagari and Sarada, I would add also almost any Nepalese 
script, for what is worth in your case). Since, as Prof. Aklujkar 
correctly points out, the texts you're editing are by Kashmirian 
authors, most likely they have been transmitted in Sarada script or a 
forerunner of this script, and such an error (garta for garbha) is 
easily explained from a graphical point of view. If you want to emend 
the text, I would choose to emend -garbha (another possibility, though a 
remote one in my opinion, is that the name might contain a Prakritic 
form, something not impossible, but far fetched).

Please keep us informed of what you find out about this pandit, I'm 
interested in this type of information.

Camillo Formigatti

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>    2. Re: N?r?ya?agarta and Kayya?a Kashmiri pandits (Elliot M. Stern)
>    3. Re: N?r?ya?agarta and Kayya?a Kashmiri pandits (Lubin, Tim)
>    4. Re: N?r?ya?agarta and Kayya?a Kashmiri pandits (Ashok Aklujkar)
>    5. Re: N?r?ya?agarta and Kayya?a Kashmiri pandits (Walter Slaje)
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> Dear Members,
> I am preparing an edition of Ānandavardhana's Devīśataka, with the
> commentary by Kayyaṭa (978 d.C.). The latter states in the
> puṣpikā that his teacher was some ekāyanasya acyutatulyamūrter
> ācāryanārāyaṇagartanamnaḥ. Has anyone ever heard of him or has
> any hint about names ending in -garta?
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Alessandro Battistini
> PhD candidate at Università di Roma La Sapienza
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> Is it possible to read the name as narayanagarbha? A Google search will 
> give=
>  you references for this scholar. =20
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> Elliot
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> 
>> On Feb 6, 2014, at 13:27, Alessandro Battistini 
>> <alessandro.battistini at uni=
> roma1.it> wrote:
>> =20
>> Dear Members,
>> I am preparing an edition of =C4=80nandavardhana's 
>> Dev=C4=AB=C5=9Bataka, w=
> ith the commentary by Kayya=E1=B9=ADa (978 d.C.). The latter states in 
> the p=
> u=E1=B9=A3pik=C4=81 that his teacher was some ek=C4=81yanasya 
> acyutatulyam=C5=
> =ABrter =C4=81c=C4=81ryan=C4=81r=C4=81ya=E1=B9=87agartanamna=E1=B8=A5. 
> Has a=
> nyone ever heard of him or has any hint about names ending in -garta?
>> =20
>> Best wishes,
>> =20
>> Alessandro Battistini
>> PhD candidate at Universit=C3=A0 di Roma La Sapienza
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> 
> I second this suggestion, especially since some scripts (e.g.,
> Nandinagari) have an inverted /bha/ that is easily confused with /ta/.
> 
> 
> Timothy Lubin
> Professor of Religion
> Washington and Lee University
> Lexington, Virginia 24450
> 
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>  From: "Elliot M. Stern" <emstern at verizon.net>
>  Date: Thursday, February 6, 2014 5:28 PM
>  To: Alessandro Battistini <alessandro.battistini at uniroma1.it>
>  Cc: "indology at list.indology.info" <indology at list.indology.info>
>  Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Nārāyaṇagarta and Kayyaṭa Kashmiri
> pandits
> 
> Is it possible to read the name as narayanagarbha? A Google search
> will give you references for this scholar.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone:
> 267-240-8418
> 
> Elliot
> 
>> On Feb 6, 2014, at 13:27, Alessandro Battistini
>> <alessandro.battistini at uniroma1.it> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Members,
>> I am preparing an edition of Ānandavardhana's Devīśataka, with
>> the commentary by Kayyaṭa (978 d.C.). The latter states in the
>> puṣpikā that his teacher was some ekāyanasya acyutatulyamūrter
>> ācāryanārāyaṇagartanamnaḥ. Has anyone ever heard of him or
>> has any hint about names ending in -garta?
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Alessandro Battistini
>> PhD candidate at Università di Roma La Sapienza
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> garta is probably a corruption of garga, indicating the family's =
> affiliation with the Garga gotra. "Garge" is still found as a family =
> name in India.=20
> 
> The table showing the development of the Nagari and Sharada scripts 
> that =
> is given as plate LXXXII or Lipi-patra 82 in Ojha's pracina bharatiya =
> lipimala indicates that at one time in some (probably western) region 
> of =
> India both ga and ta were written like English inverted "V". A =
> miswriting of ga as ta could have occurred at that time. ( (I am not =
> certain about the title and the author of the Hindi book to which I 
> have =
> referred here on the basis of my memory; my specification of the table 
> =
> number is based only on the partial photocopy I have at hand; the copy 
> =
> does not carry any author name or book title.)
> 
> Since Kayya.ta was a Kashmiri author, manuscripts of his commentary are 
> =
> very likely to have been written in Kashmir or in the area to the south 
> =
> of Kashmir on the western side of india.=20
> 
> As the pu.spika of the commentary is written in verse, the author could 
> =
> have used garga for the sake of the meter when he in fact had the gotra 
> =
> epithet gaargya in mind. Therefore, if my emendation is accepted, both 
> =
> naaraaya.na-garga and naaraaya.na-gaargya should be used to gather more 
> =
> information about the author.
> 
> a.a.
> 
> 
> 
> On 2014-02-06, at 10:27 AM, Alessandro Battistini wrote:
>> I am preparing an edition of =C4=80nandavardhana's 
>> Dev=C4=AB=C5=9Bataka,=
>  with the commentary by Kayya=E1=B9=ADa (978 d.C.). The latter states 
> in =
> the pu=E1=B9=A3pik=C4=81 that his teacher was some ek=C4=81yanasya =
> acyutatulyam=C5=ABrter 
> =C4=81c=C4=81ryan=C4=81r=C4=81ya=E1=B9=87agartanamn=
> a=E1=B8=A5. Has anyone ever heard of him or has any hint about names =
> ending in -garta?
> 
> 
> 
> The graphemes -rta and -rbha are indeed subject to confusion in the
> Śāradā script.
> 
>  A good example would be Srikanth Kaul's edition (1966) of Śrīvara's
> Zayna-Taraṅgiṇī (2.209), where he made an - actually unnecessary
> - "emendation" (bhū-gaRBHa : bhū-gaRTa), despite the uniform reading
> "bhū-garbha" of all MSS:
> 
> _mañjūṣikāntarān nītvā taṃ paṭaikāvṛtaṃ śavam _|
> 
> _pituḥ pādatale tatra bhūgartābhyantare_ _’kṣipat _|| 209 ||
> 
> -------------------------
>  (Kaul's comment on pāda d:) "MSS and CB bhūgarbhā° (mislec. for
> Śār. rtā)bhya°"
> 
> It is suggested to restore bhūgarbha- as uniformly transmitted:
> "He took his body, covered by a single shroud, out of the coffin and
> laid him down there in the womb of the earth at the feet of his father
> [Zayn]".
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> WS
> 
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> 2014-02-06 Elliot M. Stern <emstern at verizon.net>:
> 
>> Is it possible to read the name as narayanagarbha? A Google search
>> will give you references for this scholar.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone:
>> 267-240-8418
>> 
>> Elliot
>> 
>>> On Feb 6, 2014, at 13:27, Alessandro Battistini
>> <alessandro.battistini at uniroma1.it> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear Members,
>>> I am preparing an edition of Ānandavardhana's Devīśataka, with
>> the commentary by Kayyaṭa (978 d.C.). The latter states in the
>> puṣpikā that his teacher was some ekāyanasya acyutatulyamūrter
>> ācāryanārāyaṇagartanamnaḥ. Has anyone ever heard of him or
>> has any hint about names ending in -garta?
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Alessandro Battistini
>>> PhD candidate at Università di Roma La Sapienza
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> INDOLOGY mailing list
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