Re: [INDOLOGY] devanāgarī font

Tue Aug 12 14:28:43 UTC 2014

Word for Mac does not use the Cocoa framework that is standard for Apple software, and because it uses its own now outmoded legacy coding, it cannot handle Indic unicode fonts.  I use Devanagari and Tamil pretty extensively (especially Tamil), and always work in Nisus Writer and Scrivener.  I have not had the problems described below.  I find Nisus is a much more powerful, easier to use program than Word, which I avoid.  Nisus will read and write Word doc/docx files, but its standard encoding is rtf, which Word can also handle.  The macro language in Nisus can be extremely helpful.  For example, I have a macro that turns our legacy Tamil 8-bit encoding into Tamil unicode.  It has been enormously valuable and saved a huge amount of work.  Nisus also allows much more complex search and replace than Word.  Scrivener also uses rtf.  George Hart

On Aug 12, 2014, at 6:46 AM, patrick mccartney <psdmccartney at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm running Mac 10.9.4
> 
> I also don't use Word unless I absolutely have to. Actually the problem started, or was first noticed in Scrivener. It also exists in Text edit and in Gmail, basically anywhere I would like to use these fonts. So it doesn't seem to be limited to any particular program.
> 
> I tried steps a) -> d) plus restarting the computer and playing around with the fonts in the font book but this did not fix the problem either.
> 
> I ran a test on other languages. Basically all the North Indian Fonts do not work. ie Bangla, Oriya, Devanagari. So too Tamil, but Kannada works fine. 
> 
> Other language fonts like Bulgarian, Armenian, etc work without problems.
> 
> I think the next step is to go visit my hopefully friendly local Mac store and see if they have a solution...replacement of laptop maybe :)
> 
> Best,
> 
> 
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Patrick McCartney 
> 
> PhD Candidate 
> School of Culture, History & Language
> College of the Asia-Pacific
> The Australian National University
> Canberra, Australia, 0200
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> 
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> au.linkedin.com/pub/patrick-mccartney/68/b69/7aa/
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZHJVkhVBPc&list=UUfGaSWlfxH4er_TsQBmSINQ
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVqBD_2P4Pg
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfpCc8G_cUw&feature=related
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> 
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Lindquist, Steven <slindqui at mail.smu.edu> wrote:
> I can't speak to the exact problem with Hindi, etc. (I don't use them, though both of your problems sounds suspiciously similar to problems I've had before with keyboard layouts and also Apple/Microsoft more generally), and I've usually been able to find (often inelegant) workarounds from various places.  The always obvious solution is to give up on Microsoft (but I'm too stubborn).
> 
> Barring that or a fix from either corporation, I would try (a) use a hot key to toggle layouts quickly, (b) toggle on/off the 'use document input source,' (c) change keyboard input at login, or (d) modify the hidden default file (I've never done this one since I didn't know it was possible, but it showed up in the link below; if I understand it properly, this could solve your US Extended problem, Tim).  
> 
> When you find a solution, do let me know as I'm sure I'll encounter the problem soon enough.
> 
> More info here:
> http://tinyurl.com/o2wu6dv
> 
> My best,
> 
> Steven 
> 
> BTW: I always keep (b) off as it has caused me problems before.
> 
> 
> Steven Lindquist, Ph.D.
> Associate Professor, Religious Studies
> Director, Global and Regional Studies Initiative
> Director, Asian Studies
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> On Aug 12, 2014, at 6:49 AM, "Lubin, Tim" <LubinT at wlu.edu> wrote:
> 
>> Similar problem here, as of yesterday.  Whenever I open a Word doc the keylayout switches to Devanagari. If I remove Dev from the list, it switches to US Extended, which cannot be removed. I normally use a customized version of EasyUnicode. The problem seems limited to Word.
>> 
>> Tim Lubin
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Aug 12, 2014, at 4:20 AM, "patrick mccartney" <psdmccartney at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear List,
>>> 
>>> I am having trouble with the factory Hindi and Gujarati fonts on my Macbook Pro. In the middle of typing they just reverted to the Latin font. The Urdu font and phonetic fonts I also work with are fine. 
>>> 
>>> I made sure that caps lock was not on. 
>>> 
>>> I think it may be due the latest update?
>>> 
>>> I went through keyboard preferences and uninstalled/unclicked both languages but that has not worked. 
>>> 
>>> Has anyone experienced this problem before or currently? 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> All the best,
>>> 
>>> Patrick McCartney 
>>> 
>>> PhD Candidate 
>>> School of Culture, History & Language
>>> College of the Asia-Pacific
>>> The Australian National University
>>> Canberra, Australia, 0200
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Skype - psdmccartney
>>> 
>>> Australia:  +61 487 398   354
>>> Germany: +49 157 5469 4045
>>> 
>>> au.linkedin.com/pub/patrick-mccartney/68/b69/7aa/ 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZHJVkhVBPc&list=UUfGaSWlfxH4er_TsQBmSINQ
>>> 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVqBD_2P4Pg
>>> 
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfpCc8G_cUw&feature=related
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