[INDOLOGY] query: 18 ;"sre.nii jaatis
rajam
rajam at earthlink.net
Sun Nov 24 23:32:05 UTC 2013
My apologies for any inaccuracies in the font rendition, since I'm having a serious computer problem.
George wrote: ///In my opinion, the poems speak for themselves. ///
Exactly! That's how I also feel and understand these poems.
///When the Sangam poems say someone was of despised birth and we see the same group among the Dalits today, that must mean they were Dalits then, I would think. ///
It's too much of a stretch over time. When the Sangam poems say someone was of "despised birth" I think you're referring to the word "izipiRappALan2." I'd like to propose that this word is a translation of "anuloma," a person born of mixed groups (king + brahmin, king + merchant, king + pheasnt; brahmin + merchant, ... . I have quite a bit of information on this from the commentaries on the Tolkappiyam. In fact, one of the commentaries mentions 6 types of such anuloma-s. When I have the time I'll develop my theory and share it with others.
///But however that may be, the Sangam poems specifically mention caste many times.///
And yet, I have not gotten an answer to my specific question: "What is the word for 'caste' used in the Sangam poems?
More when I have a robust computing environment.
Regards,
Rajam
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