Re: [INDOLOGY] question on Bṛhat sāman

[Howard Resnick]

Thank you!
Best
Howard

On Jul 19, 2013, at 8:35 PM, Dipak Bhattacharya <dbhattacharya200498 at YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> Dear Mr. Resnick,
> I am sorry that I forgot to reply to your second query. I planned a reply but found little time and then the matter slipped from my mind.. It is more regrettable because in 1984 I had raised the issue of a Brahmana based interpretation of the Vedic ritual against one based on the mantras cited in the Srautasuutras. The Brhat and Rathantara were the illustrations where a Brahmana based interpretation could be misleading. Please see Mythological and ritual symbolism SPB Calcutta 1984:137-138. I caution you that Klaus Mylius wrongly remarked that I had taken the idea of a sutra based interpretation from Renou. You will yourself see the difference from Renou. I have no hesitation in saying that both Mylius (JIP 1989) and Karel Werner (JRAS 1987) were disappointed that they could not determine what I my intention was. I admit my short comings, but your question will be answered.
> Best
> DB
> From: Howard Resnick <hr at IVS.EDU>
> To: "Moore Gerety, Finnian" <fmgerety at fas.harvard.edu> 
> Cc: Indology List <indology at list.indology.info> 
> Sent: Saturday, 20 July 2013 4:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] question on Bṛhat sāman
> 
> Finn,
> 	Thank you very much for this valuable information. I appreciate it. 
> Best wishes,
> Howard
> 
> On Jul 19, 2013, at 1:35 PM, "Moore Gerety, Finnian" <fmgerety at fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
> 
>> Howard--
>> Thanks to the Brāhmaṇa obsession with making correlations/identifications/correspondences, you can get some idea of what the Bṛhat represents in the Veda by examining the entities with which it is correlated. The Bṛhat and Rathantara are treated as a pair in some of these passages, so that you also get an idea of the entities to which each is opposed. For example (PB 7.6.17, trans. Caland): B is the mind, R  voice; B is the melody, R the verse; B is expiration, R is inspiration; B is yonder world, R is this world. 
>> Caland's translation of the Pañcaviṃśa-Brāhmaṇa has an index of sāman names, so you can easily find all the passages that mention Bṛhat. The Jaiminīya-Brāhmaṇa also has a lot to say about the Bṛhat; an accessible example is in Caland's Das Jaiminīya-Brāhmaṇa in Auswahl § 25 (p32).
>> 
>> yours,
>> Finn
>> 
>> Finnian Moore Gerety
>> Doctoral Candidate
>> Department of South Asian Studies
>> Harvard University
>> 
>> On 16-Jul-2013, at 3:53 PM, Howard Resnick wrote:
>> 
>>> Thank you very much. Do you know why these verses were called the "Great Saman", brhat-saman?
>>> Best,
>>> Howard
>>> 
>>> On Jul 16, 2013, at 2:09 AM, Dipak Bhattacharya <dbhattacharya200498 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Bṛhat and Rathantara are considered two important sāmans in the Pañcaviṃśabrāhmaṇa. Bṛhat is based on RV.6.46.1,2. See PB 5.1.10ff, 5.2.1,8.9.11 etc.
>>>> Best
>>>> DB
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> From: Howard Resnick <hr at ivs.edu>
>>>> To: Indology List <indology at list.indology.info> 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 16 July 2013 3:42 AM
>>>> Subject: [INDOLOGY] question
>>>> 
>>>> In Bhagavad-gita 10.35, Krsna says, "Of sAmans, I am bRhat-sAman…"
>>>> 
>>>> Could someone kindly explain exactly what the bRhat-sAman is? 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Howard
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