From w.t.douglas at ABDN.AC.UK Thu Dec 1 05:11:10 2011 From: w.t.douglas at ABDN.AC.UK (Tuladhar-douglas, Dr William B.) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 11 05:11:10 +0000 Subject: CfP: Taste - panel at ASA Delhi, 3-6 April 2012 Message-ID: <161227094617.23782.17677565305242870397.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Gentlefolk, (apologies for any cross-posting) Here is the call for papers for a panel on ?taste?. The panel format is intimate ? all presenters will also be respondents in a round-robin. Please circulate this call to any colleagues you think might be interested. Paper proposals should be submitted through the ASA website at http://www.nomadit.co.uk/asa/asa2012/panels.php5?PanelID=1137 . "Traditional Indic medical texts draw careful links between specific savours, such as bitter or salty, and the efficacy of foods or medicines. Yet the perception of taste is a product of cultural training- the number and character of taste categories varies widely from culture to culture. A key Sanskrit term for intense aesthetic experience- rasa- refers both to the immediacy of gustatory experience and the discipline of exceptional discrimination. Nowhere is this more apparent than among gustatory elites such as sommeliers or the wholesalers of medical plants, whose tongues decide the worth of substances upon which less sensitive lives and livelihoods depend. In this panel we invite contributions that link the disciplining of the taste buds, aesthetic evaluation of ingested substances, and the power that comes from expertise." Many thanks, -WBTD. - - -- --- ----- -------- ------------- Will Tuladhar-Douglas Anthropology of Environments and Religions Wellcome Trust Research Fellow, Nepal, 2011-12. Visiting Scientist, ICIMOD SL/PR group. tending.to/garden The University of Aberdeen is a charity registered in Scotland, No SC013683. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ssandahl at SYMPATICO.CA Thu Dec 1 13:34:13 2011 From: ssandahl at SYMPATICO.CA (Stella Sandahl) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 11 08:34:13 -0500 Subject: Hard to find item In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <161227094632.23782.10758333145217837140.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Your student probably means this one (available at Robarts Library University of Toronto): Buddhiyoga of the G?t? and other essays / Anirvan. New Delhi : Biblia Impex, 1983. Book ? IN ? BL1212.76 .A55 1983 UTL at Downsview May be requested ? -- Stella Sandahl ssandahl at sympatico.ca On 1-Dec-11, at 5:43 AM, James Hegarty wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > A student of mine that is looking at the concept of buddhi in a > variety of contexts is having difficulty in obtaining the following > publication. Even inter-library loan has let him down. The > reference is (though it looks a little odd, I give it as he sent it > to me): > > Anirvan, Buddhyoga of the Gita and other Essays. 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URL: From jean-luc.chevillard at UNIV-PARIS-DIDEROT.FR Thu Dec 1 10:41:08 2011 From: jean-luc.chevillard at UNIV-PARIS-DIDEROT.FR (Jean-Luc Chevillard) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 11 11:41:08 +0100 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_OUP_denies_=E2=80=98censorship'?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <161227094626.23782.14797819272364107295.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear Dominik, as all the 453 signatories to the letter know, "Le combat continue"! See also the report: "http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article2675513.ece" Cheers -- Jean-Luc *********************************** The Hindu LONDON, December 1, 2011 Retract apology over Ramanujan essay, academics tell OUP Hasan Suroor Academics protesting against the Oxford University Press' (OUP) decision to stop publication and sale of A.K. Ramanujan's essay Three Hundred Ramayanas are insisting that it must ?retract? the apology it reportedly issued in court to a right-wing cultural group which had demanded a ban on the essay claiming that it hurt Hindu sensitivities. Sheldon Pollock, the noted American Indologist leading the protest, said on Wednesday that the OUP had ?besmirched Ramanujan's reputation by apologising in court to those who sought to ban his work.? He also demanded ?assured availability? of Ramanujan's Collected Essays failing which the OUP must release all rights to the book, along with the release of the Indian rights to Paula Richman's Many Ramayanas in which the controversial essay appears. ?We expect a public retraction of the apology OUP India made in court. We ask that OUP India demonstrate its commitment to freedom of expression by assuring and publicly announcing the unrestricted availability of The Collected Essays of A.K. Ramanujan. And, if it is unwilling to offer that assurance, we demand that it relinquish all rights to Ramanujan's book, along with the Indian rights to Richman's Many Ramayanas and return them to the original copyright holders so that a consortium of other Indian presses may reprint the books, as they are prepared to do,? said Professor Pollock, Ransford Professor of Sanskrit and Indian Studies, Columbia University, in a letter to Nigel Portwood, chief executive of OUP, UK. The letter was also signed by Vinay Dharwadker, Professor, Department of Languages and Cultures of Asia, University of Wisconsin-Madison, and General Editor of The Collected Essays of A.K. Ramanujan. It was in response to Mr. Portwood's claim, in his reply to a previous letter from Professor Pollock and his colleagues, that the decision to discontinue the sale of the essay was based purely on ?commercial considerations? and not taken under pressure from right-wing protesters. Professors Pollock and Dharwadker said that Mr. Portwood had ?avoided? the principal issues raised in their previous missive. ?According to the reports we have received, OUP India's lawyers made it clear in court that they would not reprint the essay. Furthermore, OUP India gave an undertaking to the Delhi University Vice-Chancellor, who asked for one in view of the court case, that they would never reprint the essay,? they said, demanding that OUP India must immediately issue a full and accurate summary of the court case, its agreement with the plaintiff, and its undertaking with the previous or current administration of Delhi University which dropped the essay from its syllabus following protests from some groups. Meanwhile, OUP Delhi, in a statement, insisted that it ?does not apologise and never has apologised for publishing the essay.? ?That is wholly consistent with a statement in 2008 legal proceedings that OUP India ?greatly respects the plurality of Indian culture in all publishing activities and never has any intention to hurt, insult, or offend in any way, any religious community or popular sentiments.' OUP India has for many decades successfully fulfilled its role as a disseminator of the best scholarship, and continues to uphold the highest levels of integrity,? it said. **************************************** On 30/11/2011 11:49, Dominik Wujastyk wrote: > A quick check of the OUP India website today does show that Ramanujan's > /Collected Essays/ volume is currently listed as "available for > immediate purchase". See attached image. > Dominik > > -- > Dr Dominik Wujastyk > > > > On 30 November 2011 09:21, Jean-Luc Chevillard > > wrote: > > FYI > > (copied from the MinTamil list) > > "http://groups.google.com/__group/mintamil/browse_thread/__thread/50b6f97b6302e209 > " > > ******************************__************ > > Flash from the UK via Chennai. > > > Retrieved on 30 11 2011 from > > http://www.thehindu.com/__todays-paper/tp-national/__article2673004.ece > > > > 30 11 2011 > > Ramanujan essay row: OUP denies ?censorship' > > HASAN SUROOR > > > ?Commercial considerations' cited for not publishing Three Hundred > Ramayanas > > The Oxford University Press (OUP) on Tuesday said that its decision > to discontinue publishing and selling A.K. Ramanujan's essay, ?Three > Hundred Ramayanas,' was based on ?commercial considerations.? It > denied acting under pressure from right-wing protesters who had > claimed that the essay hurt Hindu sensitivities. > > Nigel Portwood, chief executive of OUP UK, also denied that it had > stopped printing altogether Ramanujan's Collected Essays , in which > ?300 Ramayanas' appears, but said the book was available only in its > ?short-run print programme because there was not a sufficient number > of back orders to justify a normal reprint.? > > Reply to letter > > Replying to a letter from American Indologist Sheldon Pollock and > several other leading academics, including Paula Richman in whose > volume the essay appears, Mr. Portwood rejected allegations of > censorship. He insisted that OUP took its ?role as a disseminator of > the best scholarship in India? seriously. > > ?The two Ramanujan books at the centre of the current debate ? Many > Ramayanas and The Collected Essays of A.K. Ramanujan ? have not been > removed from the market in India through acts of censorship. Prior > to 2008, both works had been showing minimal sales triggering the > decision not to reprint either title. As I am sure you appreciate, > commercial considerations are one of several factors in publishing > decisions.? > > About the ?confusion? over the availability of The Collected Essays > , Mr. Portwood said the book was out of stock from 2008 but OUP > continued to collect a small number of back orders on its internal > systems. > > ?In early September 2011, we put The Collected Essays into our > short-run print programme because there was not a sufficient number > of back orders to justify a normal reprint, and it has been listed > as available on the OUP India website ever since ? some weeks before > the current controversy began,? he said. > > In their letter, Prof. Pollock and co-signatories had conveyed their > ?shock and dismay? at OUP India's action which, they said, was > compounded by its abject apology in court to a group which had > claimed that the essay hurt Hindu sensitivities. They urged the OUP > to withdraw its court apology, publicly state that it was committed > to the right of scholars to publish their work without fear of > suppression or censorship, and demonstrate this commitment by > reprinting Ramanujan's The Collected Essays . > > > > OUP denies acting under pressure from right-wing protesters > > > ? Collected Essays available only in its short-run print programme? > > > Retrieved on 30 11 2011 > fromhttp://www.thehindu.com/__todays-paper/tp-national/__article2673004.ece > > > From james.hartzell at GMAIL.COM Thu Dec 1 11:08:47 2011 From: james.hartzell at GMAIL.COM (James Hartzell) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 11 12:08:47 +0100 Subject: Hard to find item In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <161227094621.23782.15917257762857286740.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Hi James Here's a link to the book at Samata Books http://www.samatabooks.com/authors/anirvan cheers On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:43 AM, James Hegarty wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > A student of mine that is looking at the concept of buddhi in a variety of > contexts is having difficulty in obtaining the following publication. Even > inter-library loan has let him down. The reference is (though it looks a > little odd, I give it as he sent it to me): > > Anirvan, Buddhyoga of the Gita and other Essays. New Delhi: Biblio Impex > Privat 1981. > > Can anyone help? > > With Thanks and Best Wishes, > > James Hegarty > Cardiff University -- James Hartzell Center for Mind/Brain Sciences (CIMeC) University of Trento via delle Regole 101 38123 Mattarello, TN, Italy Tel: +39 0461 28 3660 Cell: +39 377 452 6292 From adheesh1 at GMAIL.COM Thu Dec 1 11:09:25 2011 From: adheesh1 at GMAIL.COM (Adheesh Sathaye) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 11 16:39:25 +0530 Subject: Hard to find item In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <161227094624.23782.11953456915818386409.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Hello James, It seems that he's missing an "i" in the title which might account for the difficulty. It should be "Buddhiyoga of the Gita..." a search on worldcat reveals the following: http://www.worldcat.org/title/buddhiyoga-of-the-gita-and-other-essays/oclc/670102526?referer=br&ht=edition Looks like it's available in the BL. good luck! cheers, Adheesh On Dec 1, 2011, at 4:13 PM, James Hegarty wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > A student of mine that is looking at the concept of buddhi in a variety of contexts is having difficulty in obtaining the following publication. Even inter-library loan has let him down. The reference is (though it looks a little odd, I give it as he sent it to me): > > Anirvan, Buddhyoga of the Gita and other Essays. New Delhi: Biblio Impex Privat 1981. > > Can anyone help? > > With Thanks and Best Wishes, > > James Hegarty > Cardiff University ---- Adheesh Sathaye Department of Asian Studies University of British Columbia From dbhattacharya200498 at YAHOO.COM Thu Dec 1 13:08:47 2011 From: dbhattacharya200498 at YAHOO.COM (Dipak Bhattacharya) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 11 18:38:47 +0530 Subject: Anirvan's essay In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <161227094629.23782.6570325413772071117.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> If this Anirvan is the same as the recluse of Calcutta who died in the eighties, Professor Gauri Dharmapal might be contacted. She has all the publications of Anirvan with her family. Best DB ________________________________ From: James Hegarty To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk Sent: Thursday, 1 December 2011 4:13 PM Subject: [INDOLOGY] Hard to find item Dear Colleagues, A student of mine that is looking at the concept of buddhi in a variety of contexts is having difficulty in obtaining the following publication. Even inter-library loan has let him down. The reference is (though it looks a little odd, I give it as he sent it to me): Anirvan, Buddhyoga of the Gita and other Essays. New Delhi: Biblio Impex Privat 1981. Can anyone help? With Thanks and Best Wishes, James Hegarty Cardiff University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jpo at UTS.CC.UTEXAS.EDU Sat Dec 3 16:28:13 2011 From: jpo at UTS.CC.UTEXAS.EDU (Patrick Olivelle) Date: Sat, 03 Dec 11 10:28:13 -0600 Subject: Fwd: GC CUNY job Message-ID: <161227094636.23782.3455673851197321448.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Begin forwarded message: > From: Manu Bhagavan > Subject: GC CUNY job > Date: December 3, 2011 9:54:04 AM CST > To: jpo at uts.cc.utexas.edu > Reply-To: manu.bhagavan at hunter.cuny.edu > > Dear Patrick: > > The History program at the CUNY Grad Center is running a senior search for a > historian of empire and/or religion. Empire is broadly defined, but is post- > 1500. The ad is below. Could you please encourage terrific people to apply or to > be nominated? (I am on the committee). Thanks, Manu > > > The Ph.D. Program in History at the Graduate Center, the City University of New > York, invites applications for a faculty position at the rank of advanced associate > or full professor. Applicants should have expertise demonstrated by a > distinguished record of research and publication in one of two areas: The History > of Empire, from 1500 to the present, with a preference for European, including > Ottoman, empires; or the history of religion from the middle ages to the present. > We seek an internationally recognized scholar whose work is theoretically > informed and methodologically innovative. The appointment will begin in Fall > 2012. A particularly strong candidate may be nominated as a Distinguished > Professor. To apply, please send a letter of application, curriculum vitae, and the > names/addresses/email addresses for at least three references to: > History at gc.cuny.edu with the subject line ?Faculty Search" or to Ph.D. Program in > History, 365 Fifth Avenue, The Graduate Center, CUNY, New York, NY 10016. > We also welcome nominations. 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Your help in circulating this to possible candidates would be much appreciated. With best wishes, Shaman --- Dr. Shaman Hatley Concordia University Department of Religion, FA-101 1455 de Maisonneuve Blvd West Montr?al Qc, H3G 1M8 Canada *** Limited Term Appointment CONCORDIA UNIVERSITY Faculty of Arts and Science The Department of Religion of Concordia University invites applications for a limited-term appointment in the area of Hinduism and South Asian religions. Candidates should have broad familiarity with classical and modern Hindu traditions, the ability to teach Buddhism, and relevant language proficiencies. The candidate should hold a doctorate or be close to its completion, and have experience and skill in teaching. Familiarity with the comparative study of religions will be considered an asset. Applications should consist of a cover letter, a current curriculum vitae, a statement of teaching philosophy/interests, and evidence of teaching effectiveness. 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Review of applications will begin as they are received and will continue until the required positions have been filled. All applications should reach departments no later than March 1, 2012. All qualified candidates are encouraged to apply; however, Canadian citizens and permanent residents of Canada will be given priority. Concordia University is committed to employment equity. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mailmealakendudas at REDIFFMAIL.COM Sun Dec 4 15:02:41 2011 From: mailmealakendudas at REDIFFMAIL.COM (alakendu das) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 11 15:02:41 +0000 Subject: innovating the decimal system Message-ID: <161227094639.23782.2218050127171607939.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> To all listed Members and scholars in Indology, In course of my earnest study of Indology, ,I learnt that India of the Rig Vedic age was the first to innovate decimal system or place-value principle in Mathematics. Taitteriya Upanishads(one of the eleven Upanishads)have references of decimal system.In the "Shukla" version of Yajurveda , we find Medhatithi's verse in the Vajrasaneyi Samhita which speaks of the various powers of ten.Rigveda has evidences of writing 720 as "sapta satati vimsatih" or 1110 as "sahasrani sata dasha" Thus concepts like place -value , powers of ten dawned upon the Indians of the Rig Vedic age. while the romans could use upto 10 to the power 3 , and the greeks 10 to the power 4, it was quiet natural for the Rig vedic India to imagine 10 to the power 14. Rig vedic age existed between 1500 B.C.and 500 B.C. Can anyone enlighten me whether any other civilisation or age pre-dated the Rig Vedic India in innovating the Decimal system ? Thanking You ALAKENDU DAS mailmealakendudas at redifmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: unknown sender Subject: no subject Date: no date Size: 9104 URL: From jmdelire at ULB.AC.BE Sun Dec 4 19:19:19 2011 From: jmdelire at ULB.AC.BE (Jean-Michel Delire) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 11 20:19:19 +0100 Subject: innovating the decimal system Message-ID: <161227094654.23782.4190703889810784252.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear member(s), I certainly agree that India was the first place where the decimal enunciation of numbers went so far as to give names to long series of powers of ten But, I would add the following remarks : 1? enunciation does not necessarily mean notation, so that one is still far away from a positional decimal system when one says "sahasrani sata dasha" instead of writing 1110; actually, in this example, the 1's are not enunciated and it is the names of the powers of ten that specify the value, not the position, and 2? it is only when the "1's" are enunciated, the "0" added and the names of the powers of ten dropped that we have a real positional decimal enunciation like 'one one one zero'. This happened in India in the first centuries AD, especially in the astronomical works named siddhantas, which enunciated 304, by instance, as tri sunya catur or as loka kha veda. By so doing, they replaced the numerals by number-words, so useful for metric (and thus verbal) facility, reminiscent of the numerals. And, even so, one cannot really ensure that the system was purely decimal for danta is sometimes used for 32 (and other single words for other two figures numbers). Hoping this helps, J.M.Delire, Lecturer on 'Science and Civilization in India - Sanskrit texts' at the IHEB (University of Brussels) >To all listed Members and scholars in Indology, > > > In course of my earnest study of Indology, ,I learnt that India of the Rig Vedic age was the first to innovate decimal system or place-value principle in Mathematics. Taitteriya Upanishads(one of the eleven Upanishads)have references of decimal system.In the "Shukla" version of Yajurveda , we find Medhatithi's verse in the Vajrasaneyi Samhita which speaks of the various powers of ten.Rigveda has evidences of writing 720 as "sapta satati vimsatih" or 1110 as "sahasrani sata dasha" Thus concepts like place -value , powers of ten dawned upon the Indians of the Rig Vedic age. while the romans could use upto 10 to the power 3 , and the greeks 10 to the power 4, it was quiet natural for the Rig vedic India to imagine 10 to the power 14. > Rig vedic age existed between 1500 B.C.and 500 B.C. > Can anyone enlighten me whether any other civilisation or age pre-dated the Rig Vedic India in innovating the Decimal system ? > > Thanking You > ALAKENDU DAS > mailmealakendudas at redifmail.com > > > > > From dbhattacharya200498 at YAHOO.COM Sun Dec 4 16:54:06 2011 From: dbhattacharya200498 at YAHOO.COM (Dipak Bhattacharya) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 11 22:24:06 +0530 Subject: Fw: [INDOLOGY] innovating the decimal system In-Reply-To: <1323011019.S.11750.3111.F.H.TmFsYWtlbmR1IGRhcwBbSU5ET0xPR1ldIGlubm92YXRpbmcgdGhlIGRlY2ltYWwgc3lzdGVt.f6-145-71.old.1323011463.20829@webmail.rediffmail.com> Message-ID: <161227094650.23782.7637875095428976892.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> 4 12 11 Dear Friend, The file format is not known. So the attachment could not be opened. Still I write the following on the basis of the statement in the letter. Whether a decimal system is in place can be tested. Without the system of increment of the place value (coefficient x digit) by multiples of 10 (ap of the log) a numerical system cannot be called decimal in spite of the importance given to the number 10 in it. In the Roman numeral system too X is important but, since place value has no part to play in it, the Roman numerals do not form a decimal system. There is another criterion without which it cannot work, namely, the non-positive, non-negative digit that is 0 that is to be used in the number 10. The said system is first found in the ?ryabha??yam which, however, has ak?aras for digits. But the digits are the objects to be signified. One may conclude that by 499 AD the decimal system existed in India. One has to prove that place value with the coefficient of the digit increasing from 100 onward with the exponent increasing in ap of the series 0,1,2,3,4 etc exists in the said texts to confirm that their system is decimal. I request forgiveness for the tedious character of the letter. A more sprightly form is welcome. Best DB ________________________________ From: alakendu das To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk Sent: Sunday, 4 December 2011 8:41 PM Subject: [INDOLOGY] Fw: [INDOLOGY] innovating the decimal system Note: Forwarded message attached -- Original Message -- From: alakendu das mailmealakendudas at REDIFFMAIL.COM To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk Subject: [INDOLOGY] innovating the decimal system Follow?Rediff Deal ho jaye!?to get exciting offers in your city everyday. To all listed Members and scholars in Indology, In course of my earnest study of Indology, ,I learnt that India of the Rig Vedic age was the first to innovate decimal system or place-value principle in Mathematics. Taitteriya Upanishads(one of the eleven Upanishads)have references of decimal system.In the "Shukla" version of Yajurveda , we find Medhatithi's verse in the Vajrasaneyi Samhita which speaks of the various powers of ten.Rigveda has evidences of writing 720 as "sapta satati vimsatih" or 1110 as "sahasrani sata dasha" Thus concepts like place -value , powers of ten dawned upon the Indians of the Rig Vedic age. while the romans could use upto 10 to the power 3 , and the greeks 10 to the power 4, it was quiet natural for the Rig vedic India to imagine 10 to the power 14. Rig vedic age existed between 1500 B.C.and 500 B.C. Can anyone enlighten me whether any other civilisation or age pre-dated the Rig Vedic India in innovating the Decimal system ? Thanking You ALAKENDU DAS mailmealakendudas at redifmail.com Follow?Rediff Deal ho jaye!?to get exciting offers in your city everyday. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wujastyk at GMAIL.COM Mon Dec 5 03:22:31 2011 From: wujastyk at GMAIL.COM (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 11 04:22:31 +0100 Subject: innovating the decimal system In-Reply-To: <260664edbc7b7d8a55@wm-srv.ulb.ac.be> Message-ID: <161227094656.23782.8696835844192809652.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> In 1998, I wrote, about zero: Three key elements -- a decimal base, place-value, and zero (I abbreviate > this to "DPZ") -- occurred separately at earlier times both in India > and in other parts of the ancient world. In particular, the Babylonians > were using a place-value system, with a space for the null value, in the > second millennium BC, but their base for counting was sixty, not ten. By > the time of Alexander the Great, they were even using a special symbol for > this null value. From perhaps as early as the third century AD the Mayans > also used place-value and zero, but with the base twenty. But it does > indeed seem to have been the Indians who first combined these key elements > together to form the basis of the arithmetic system that has come down to > the modern world. > The full text is here: http://cikitsa.blogspot.com/2010/04/origins-of-zero.html -- Dr Dominik Wujastyk Department of South Asia, Tibetan and Buddhist Studies, University of Vienna, Spitalgasse 2-4, Courtyard 2, Entrance 2.1 1090 Vienna Austria Project | home page| PGP | Free Dropbox account On 4 December 2011 20:19, Jean-Michel Delire wrote: > Dear member(s), > > I certainly agree that India was the first place where the decimal > enunciation of numbers went so far as to give names to long series of > powers of ten But, I would add the following remarks : 1? enunciation does > not necessarily mean notation, so that one is still far away from a > positional decimal system when one says "sahasrani sata dasha" instead of > writing 1110; actually, in this example, the 1's are not enunciated and it > is the names of the powers of ten that specify the value, not the position, > and 2? it is only when the "1's" are enunciated, the "0" added and the > names of the powers of ten dropped that we have a real positional decimal > enunciation like 'one one one zero'. This happened in India in the first > centuries AD, especially in the astronomical works named siddhantas, which > enunciated 304, by instance, as tri sunya catur or as loka kha veda. By so > doing, they replaced the numerals by number-words, so useful for metric > (and thus verbal) facility, reminiscent of the numerals. And, even so, one > cannot really ensure that the system was purely decimal for danta is > sometimes used for 32 (and other single words for other two figures > numbers). > > Hoping this helps, > > J.M.Delire, > Lecturer on 'Science and Civilization in India - Sanskrit texts' at the > IHEB (University of Brussels) > > >To all listed Members and scholars in Indology, > > > > > > In course of my earnest study of Indology, ,I learnt that India of the > Rig Vedic age was the first to innovate decimal system or place-value > principle in Mathematics. Taitteriya Upanishads(one of the eleven > Upanishads)have references of decimal system.In the "Shukla" version of > Yajurveda , we find Medhatithi's verse in the Vajrasaneyi Samhita which > speaks of the various powers of ten.Rigveda has evidences of writing 720 as > "sapta satati vimsatih" or 1110 as "sahasrani sata dasha" Thus concepts > like place -value , powers of ten dawned upon the Indians of the Rig Vedic > age. while the romans could use upto 10 to the power 3 , and the greeks 10 > to the power 4, it was quiet natural for the Rig vedic India to imagine 10 > to the power 14. > > Rig vedic age existed > between 1500 B.C.and 500 B.C. > > Can anyone enlighten me whether any other > civilisation or age pre-dated the Rig Vedic India in innovating the > Decimal system ? > > > > Thanking You > > ALAKENDU DAS > > mailmealakendudas at redifmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dbhattacharya200498 at YAHOO.COM Mon Dec 5 07:36:19 2011 From: dbhattacharya200498 at YAHOO.COM (Dipak Bhattacharya) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 11 13:06:19 +0530 Subject: The decimal system Message-ID: <161227094660.23782.6319817181474786259.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> The Babylonian usage was mentioned by Sir Gordon Childe, in Man the unknown or, may be, in What happened in history. I do not exactly remember after so many years. Sir Gordon did not much elaborate. But he understood the later developments as rediscovery. When I read that the source was not available to me. Later it seemed to me as sporadic and, what F. Engels (Anti-D?hring) would term in such context, ?unconnected?. The Indian development, on the other hand, had ramifications as it left its impression in the further history of Mathematics through the Arabs. These were wrongly understood by Engels as unconnected. Best DB -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But he understood the later developments as rediscovery. When I read that the source was not available to me. Later it seemed to me as sporadic and, what F. Engels (Anti-D?hring) would term in such context, ?unconnected?. The Indian development, on the other hand, had ramifications as it left its impression in the further history of Mathematics through the Arabs. These were wrongly understood by Engels as unconnected. Best DB -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From slindqui at MAIL.SMU.EDU Mon Dec 5 16:08:06 2011 From: slindqui at MAIL.SMU.EDU (Lindquist, Steven) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 11 16:08:06 +0000 Subject: FW: Access All Areas - Routledge In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <161227094669.23782.4987021762229470459.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> FYI. STEVEN LINDQUIST, PH.D. 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Registered in England and Wales - Number 3099067. ________________________________ You have received this e-mail in the genuine belief that its contents would be of interest to you. To not receive these messages from Scientific Direct or other carefully selected organizations, please go to our preference page. Scientific Direct 1500 Spring Garden Street 4th Fl Philadelphia, PA 19130 USA [http://sci.scientific-direct.net/o/440d9a14/3e54f11a/1/H/1003998.gif] From wujastyk at GMAIL.COM Mon Dec 5 15:37:10 2011 From: wujastyk at GMAIL.COM (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 11 16:37:10 +0100 Subject: Fw: [INDOLOGY] The decimal system In-Reply-To: <1323077504.66245.YahooMailNeo@web94811.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <161227094666.23782.14729204410661132827.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> There is a substantial specialist literature on the history of numerals, from Smith and Karpinski(1911) and Florian Cajori(1929) through to Georges Ifrah, Victor Katz and Charles Burnett ( 2006 ). Some of this has been mentioned in this forum before, I believe. It would be best to refer to that literature before posting further notes on the topic. The most pertinent parts of this literature for India have been cited and discussed by Kim Plofker in her 2009 book Mathematics in India, especially chapter 3. Best, -- Dr Dominik Wujastyk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dbhattacharya200498 at YAHOO.COM Tue Dec 6 02:56:19 2011 From: dbhattacharya200498 at YAHOO.COM (Dipak Bhattacharya) Date: Tue, 06 Dec 11 08:26:19 +0530 Subject: Fw: [INDOLOGY] The decimal system In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <161227094677.23782.7035112569430281724.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> There are other works too that are dependable for the general outline. Apart from Gordon Childe (only for the ancient world), the Penguin collection The Treasury of Mathematics (1965, 1968) introductories: H. Midonick and revision: Minetta and Reginald Vesselo and the Indian collection under Debiprasad Chattopadhyay are not bad for general outline ? the latter for the Indian development. The historical sketches that came to my notice are not always free from inaccuracies but, so far as they pertain to non-essential detail, the sketches are good for the general outline. Best DB ________________________________ From: Dominik Wujastyk To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk Sent: Monday, 5 December 2011 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Fw: [INDOLOGY] The decimal system There is a substantial specialist literature on the history of numerals, from Smith and Karpinski (1911) and Florian Cajori (1929) through to Georges Ifrah, Victor Katz and Charles Burnett (2006).? Some of this has been mentioned in this forum before, I believe.? It would be best to refer to that literature before posting further notes on the topic.? 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Duties are teaching first and second year Sanskrit every semester and one further advanced Sanskrit or undergraduate lecture course per semester, in alignment with one?s expertise. Applicants should have in hand a Ph.D. in the study of Sanskrit Language and Literature, or have completed all requirements for the Ph.D. in such study, except the writing of the dissertation. Review of applications will begin February 15, 2012; preliminary interviews will take place at the American Oriental Society meeting in Boston, March 16-19. Send letter of application and CV to Chair, Sanskrit Search Committee, Box 1856, Department of Classics, Brown University, 48 College Street, Providence, Rhode Island, 02912. Arrange to have three letters of recommendation sent to the same address. Brown is an EEO/AA employer. Minorities and women are encouraged to apply. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From westerhoff at CANTAB.NET Wed Dec 7 09:55:35 2011 From: westerhoff at CANTAB.NET (Jan Westerhoff) Date: Wed, 07 Dec 11 09:55:35 +0000 Subject: Identity of Sam.rddha / 'byor ldan Message-ID: <161227094681.23782.9301008701374270749.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear Colleagues, Naagaarjuna's Vaidalyaprakara.na contains a list of Ancient Indian scholars and sages including one 'byor ldan (Sam.rddha?). The only reference to this name I could find is in Vettam Mani: Puraa.nic Encyclopaedia, Motilal Banarsidass, Delhi, 1979: 680: "Sam.rddha: A naaga (serpent) born in the family of Dh.rtaraa.s.tra. The serpent was burnt to death in the sacrificial fire of the serpent sacrifice of Janamejaya." Given the other members of the list it seems likely that this not the intended referent, however. Any hints on the identity of this character would be much appreciated. Regards Jan Westerhoff *************************** Dr Dr JC Westerhoff Department of Philosophy University of Durham 50 Old Elvet Durham DH1 3HN United Kingdom www.janwesterhoff.net westerhoff at cantab.net From wujastyk at GMAIL.COM Fri Dec 9 13:26:51 2011 From: wujastyk at GMAIL.COM (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Fri, 09 Dec 11 14:26:51 +0100 Subject: "Must We Pay for Sanskrit?" Message-ID: <161227094687.23782.17743068982980108425.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Article by Michael Wood in the current issue of the *London Review of Books* : - http://www.lrb.co.uk/v33/n24/michael-wood/must-we-pay-for-sanskrit "*Keith Thomasand Michael Wood spoke at ?Universities under Attack?, a conference sponsored by the ?London Review?, the ?New York Review? and Fritt Ord held on 26 November at King?s College London."* Here is Sir Keith's talk, which does not mention Sanskrit but will be of interest to those who care about British higher education: - *http://www.lrb.co.uk/2011/11/28/keith-thomas/universities-under-attack * The programme of the conference was as follows: - *10 a.m. ?What Kind of University??* *Stefan Collini* (Cambridge), * Tim Horder* (editor, *Oxford Magazine*), *Peter Scott* (Institute of Education). - 11.30 a.m. Coffee - *12 p.m. ?Universities in a Corporate World?. * *Simon Head* (Oxford and New York University), *Howard Hotson* (Oxford), * Michael Wood* (Princeton). - 1.30 p.m. Lunch - *2.30 p.m. ?Academic Labour as a Factor of Production: Hefce and Research Assessment?.* *Matthew Feldman* (Northampton), *Rachel Malik* (formerly of Middlesex University), *Paola Mattei* (Oxford), *Ann Mroz* (editor, *Times Higher Education*). - 4 p.m. Coffee - *4.30 p.m. ?Beyond the White Paper: What Is to Be Done??* *Terence Kealey* (Buckingham), *Keith Thomas* (Oxford), *Susan Wright* (University of Aarhus). 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Ramanujan's "Three Hundred Ramayanas" and "Collected Essays" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <161227094693.23782.2491616575227197470.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear Liverpool Indology list members, it is not clear to me how many of the 453 signatories of the letter drafted by Sheldon Pollock and sent to OUP have received a message from Rachel Goode (as Joanna Kirpatrick has). [I don't think I received anything] I believe the members of Liverpool Indology who were signatories of the protest letter but have not been directly informed of the recent development will be interested in seeing this, which I forward from the Indo-Eurasian mailing list. Best wishes -- Jean-Luc Chevillard (Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique [CNRS], UMR 7597 (HTL), Universit? Paris-Diderot, Paris) -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Indo-Eurasia] FW: A.K. Ramanujan's "Three Hundred Ramayanas" and "Collected Essays" Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 10:05:07 +0530 From: MANISH MODI [...] Reply-To: Indo-Eurasian_research [...] To: Indo-Eurasian_research [...] Wow! Lovely! Marvelous to see this. Living in India, I had begun to doubt the efficacy of quiet, sensible intelligent protesting. Manish On 10 December 2011 07:35, Jo <[...]> wrote: > Forwarding to the List - > Joanna Kirkpatrick > ***** > From: Group Communications, Oxford University Press > Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 9:06 AM > Subject: A.K. Ramanujan's "Three Hundred Ramayanas" and "Collected Essays" > We are writing to you as scholars who signed a letter addressed to Mr Nigel > Portwood on November 28 2011. We want to make you aware of the statement > attached to this email, which we have written to communicate our position > regarding certain works of scholarship published by OUP India. > Oxford University Press continues to believe that scholarly freedom is > fundamentally important and works to uphold this principle across the > world. > We hope that our recent decision as outlined in our statement will > demonstrate our commitment in this regard. > Rachel Goode > Group Communications Director > Oxford University Press > ***** > OUP Statement: December 9 2011 > We wish to communicate OUP?s position regarding three works of scholarship > published by OUP India. > Given the current concern expressed by members of the scholarly community > about the availability of The Collected Essays and Many Ramayanas we have > taken the decision to reprint both titles immediately and make them > available in India and beyond. We are also making Questioning Ramayanas > available again. All three titles are available to order from the OUP India > website and bookshops across India. > OUP has an important role to play in ensuring that the best scholarship is > disseminated freely, and we hope the reprinting of these three important > works will demonstrate our commitment in this regard. > We also wish to restate the fact that OUP does not and never has > apologised for publishing any work by Ramanujan. Any previous > communications from OUP India that have given the impression of such an > apology have been misinterpreted. We recognise that it is not in the best > interests of the scholarly community of which we are a part for such a > misinterpretation to remain, which is why we are clarifying our position > once again. From jhakgirish at YAHOO.COM Sun Dec 11 10:55:01 2011 From: jhakgirish at YAHOO.COM (girish jha) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 11 02:55:01 -0800 Subject: Gajendragadkar's comm. on Kavyaprakasa Message-ID: <161227094698.23782.9556198186347125314.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear? colleagues, Could anyone let me know of the publication of Prof AB Gajendragadkar's commentary on the Kavyaprakasa from which I could buy a copy of it. Kindest regards, Girish K. Jha Sanskrit,Patna Univ,India -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From w.t.douglas at ABDN.AC.UK Sun Dec 11 03:09:40 2011 From: w.t.douglas at ABDN.AC.UK (Tuladhar-douglas, Dr William B.) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 11 03:09:40 +0000 Subject: Annapurna In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <161227094696.23782.14961483631700126683.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Artur, Since we were just up there: it's one, two, three and so on in Nepali (ek, dvi, tin..) and it's clearly a translation from Western terminology. I doubt the peaks were referred to in that way before Western surveyors and mountaineers conceptualised them as a single massif, rather than ridges, visible peaks (like Macchapuchre) and traversable passes. There was an indicative conversation one day about Dhaulagiri; one of the party (from around Dhading, between Pokhara and Kathmandu) asked where Dhaulagiri two, three and so forth were, and the person in the party from the Myagdi area said, ?it's just Dhaulagiri, one peak. There's no one two three.? -WBTD. On 10 Dec 2011, at 22:01, Artur Karp wrote: > Dear List, > > Annapurna Mt. has four peaks - Annapurna I, II, III, and IV. What are > their formal Nepalese names? > > Would it be (in Nepalese) Annapurna One, Two, Three, Four, or, rather, > Annapurna First, Second, Third, Fourth? > > Nepalese colloquial or Sanskritic numerals? > > Great thanks in advance, > > Artur Karp > > Poland - - -- --- ----- -------- ------------- Will Tuladhar-Douglas Anthropology of Environment and Religions http://tending.to/garden The University of Aberdeen is a charity registered in Scotland, No SC013683. From jpo at UTS.CC.UTEXAS.EDU Sun Dec 11 12:45:05 2011 From: jpo at UTS.CC.UTEXAS.EDU (Patrick Olivelle) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 11 06:45:05 -0600 Subject: London lodging In-Reply-To: <1323600901.54060.YahooMailClassic@web161701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <161227094701.23782.10384822832475004023.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> I will be in London for some work in August for about a week. I wonder whether any of you know of accommodation in central London other than hotels that charge you an arm and a leg!! Even accommodation in a university hostel condition. Thanks. Patrick From conlon at U.WASHINGTON.EDU Sun Dec 11 16:19:11 2011 From: conlon at U.WASHINGTON.EDU (Frank Conlon) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 11 08:19:11 -0800 Subject: London lodging In-Reply-To: <9EC5EED5-FB70-4FAF-8D18-1E56D7D0405D@uts.cc.utexas.edu> Message-ID: <161227094703.23782.9939942221859108773.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Hi Patrick, I don't have the address to hand, but the Indian YMCA--not far from the Warren St. Tube Station might be a useful choice. Frank On Sun, 11 Dec 2011, Patrick Olivelle wrote: > I will be in London for some work in August for about a week. I wonder whether any of you know of accommodation in central London other than hotels that charge you an arm and a leg!! Even accommodation in a university hostel condition. Thanks. > > Patrick From rdamron at BERKELEY.EDU Sun Dec 11 20:28:32 2011 From: rdamron at BERKELEY.EDU (Ryan Damron) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 11 12:28:32 -0800 Subject: Somdev Vasudeva's email Message-ID: <161227094712.23782.15374264886329096202.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Hello All, Could someone please pass on to me (off-list) the current email for Somdev Vasudeva. Now that he has left Columbia University, it appears as if his columbia.edu address has been closed. Thank you Ryan Ryan Damron Graduate Student Department of South and Southeast Asian Studies University of California, Berkeley 7233 Dwinelle Hall Berkeley, CA 94720-2520 rdamron at berkeley.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john.darumadera at GMAIL.COM Sun Dec 11 17:40:32 2011 From: john.darumadera at GMAIL.COM (John Huntington) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 11 12:40:32 -0500 Subject: Annapurna In-Reply-To: <8D2219B3-D480-4287-B078-0349C053C1E0@abdn.ac.uk> Message-ID: <161227094706.23782.3357628538270428466.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear Artur, I think we need to step back from specific peaks of the Annapurna range and look at the geography as a whole. The toponym, Annapurna, denotes a goddess of abundance who is often manifest as a overflowing jar (kalash or purnagata) , e.g., the Annapurna temple in Kathmandu. Since the Annapurna range as a whole feeds the Kali-Gandak river (with an abundant flow of water) it is more likely that early nomenclature did not indicate specific peaks but simply the the massive overflowing abundance of the general area as the source of the river. The jar as goddess phenomenon is known inearly scypture and is associated not only with Annapurna, but also Naya Guhyeshvari, Puran Guhyesgvari and (according to the invocational inscription on the Annapurna temple) Yogambara/Jnanesvari at Mhepi-ajima. Thus, it is my opinion the enumerations are a British "map-maker's" Nomenclature and not in any way traditional. I hope this is useful, John -- John C. Huntington, Professor Buddhist Art and Methodologies Department of Art History The Ohio state University john.darumadera at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Making this move to XeTeX will greatly simplify your working, and make your documents easier to write, maintain, and process. 2. Your difficulty with the stanza environment in LEDMAC is a TeX problem, not an indological one, and you'll have much more luck with responses if you send your question to the main TeX discussion forum, called comp.text.tex . Questions about LEDMAC are commonly asked and answered there (e.g., here ). 3. There's also a mailing list specifically for XeTeX where people discuss special issues that relate to unusual languages and XeTeX (here). Sanskrit sometimes gets discussed there, LEDMAC less so. 4. The current maintainer of LEDMAC is Ma?eul Rouquetteto whom you can write for help if you think you've found a bug. Best wishes, Dominik Wujastyk On 11 December 2011 19:29, Adriano Aprigliano wrote: > Dear list members,**** > > ** ** > > I?ve been trying to use the devanagari package together with ledmac and > ledpar to produce facing page output and it works fine for prose texts > (though I have some doubts on how many text chunks should be handled at > each Pages environment) , but when a I try to write verse ---either with > the \stanza or {astanza} environments---, it doesn?t work. Could anyone > give me a hand on that?**** > > Best wishes**** > > Adriano Aprigliano**** > > ** ** > > Universidade de S?o Paulo**** > > S?o Paulo/SP**** > > Brasil **** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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John's comments on Annapurna seem consistent with this. Matthew T. Kapstein Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies The University of Chicago Divinity School Directeur d'?tudes Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, Paris From mjslouber at BERKELEY.EDU Mon Dec 12 15:23:20 2011 From: mjslouber at BERKELEY.EDU (Michael Slouber) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 11 10:23:20 -0500 Subject: Devanagari verse and LATEX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <161227094721.23782.16729830846405335799.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear Adriano and list members, I second Dominik's recommendations about XeTeX. There is also an email list specifically for Ledmac and Ledpar: . I will send Adriano and any other interested party an example file using Ledpar for a parallel edition of verses. Please write to me off-list. Best, Michael Slouber Visiting Adjunct Instructor Religious Studies Brown University Ph.D. Candidate South and Southeast Asian Studies UC Berkeley On Dec 11, 2011, at 9:36 PM, Dominik Wujastyk wrote: > Dear Adriano, > > A few points: > 1. don't use the Devanagari package any more. Move to XeTeX, and then you can just use a font like Sanskrit 2003 (one of my favourites) and type your input in Unicode. You can type Devanagari directly, or you can type using the Velthuis encoding (aasiidraajaa, k.r.s.na.h), or standard scholarly romanisation (IAST). The Velthuis or IAST can be converted automatically into Devanagari by XeTeX itself. > > Because XeTeX can accept Velthuis-style input, your legacy documents made with the Devanagari package will still be perfectly okay, and you won't have to retype anything. > > Making this move to XeTeX will greatly simplify your working, and make your documents easier to write, maintain, and process. > > 2. Your difficulty with the stanza environment in LEDMAC is a TeX problem, not an indological one, and you'll have much more luck with responses if you send your question to the main TeX discussion forum, called comp.text.tex. Questions about LEDMAC are commonly asked and answered there (e.g., here). > > 3. There's also a mailing list specifically for XeTeX where people discuss special issues that relate to unusual languages and XeTeX (here). Sanskrit sometimes gets discussed there, LEDMAC less so. > > 4. The current maintainer of LEDMAC is Ma?eul Rouquette to whom you can write for help if you think you've found a bug. > > Best wishes, > Dominik Wujastyk > > On 11 December 2011 19:29, Adriano Aprigliano wrote: > Dear list members, > > > > I?ve been trying to use the devanagari package together with ledmac and ledpar to produce facing page output and it works fine for prose texts (though I have some doubts on how many text chunks should be handled at each Pages environment) , but when a I try to write verse ---either with the \stanza or {astanza} environments---, it doesn?t work. Could anyone give me a hand on that? > > Best wishes > > Adriano Aprigliano > > > > Universidade de S?o Paulo > > S?o Paulo/SP > > Brasil > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The peak which is shaped like a trident( a constant accompaniment of Lord Shiva) came to be known as "Trishul', while the peak "Panchachullhi" took it's name from the shape of five(pancha) ovens(chulha) placed side by side. However, mountains in India, on an average , are named on mythogical characters. > > > Alakendu Das. > mailmealakendudas at rediffmail.com FollowRediff Deal ho jaye!to get exciting offers in your city everyday. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrinalkaul81 at GMAIL.COM Wed Dec 14 02:04:04 2011 From: mrinalkaul81 at GMAIL.COM (Mrinal Kaul) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 11 21:04:04 -0500 Subject: PDF of Essays on Kashmiri grammar by Grierson Message-ID: <161227094731.23782.16764313074683373872.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear List Members, Greetings ! Would anyone happen to have a PDF copy of the following book / collection of papers of George Grierson and mind sharing it with me off the list ? Grierson, George A. 1899. Essays on Kashmiri grammar. Reprinted from the Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society of Bengal for 1896-1899. London: Luzac. Thanks in advance. Yours, Mrinal Kaul -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mjslouber at BERKELEY.EDU Wed Dec 14 15:14:30 2011 From: mjslouber at BERKELEY.EDU (Michael Slouber) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 11 10:14:30 -0500 Subject: PDF of Essays on Kashmiri grammar by Grierson In-Reply-To: <4E926F45-F6C9-40DE-9FA3-797C1E8864ED@gmail.com> Message-ID: <161227094734.23782.5034679141916537065.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear Mrinal, This collection of Grierson is available on Google Books: < PDF >. Best, Michael Slouber Visiting Adjunct Instructor Religious Studies Brown University Ph.D. Candidate South and Southeast Asian Studies UC Berkeley On Dec 13, 2011, at 9:04 PM, Mrinal Kaul wrote: > Dear List Members, > Greetings ! Would anyone happen to have a PDF copy of the following book / collection of papers of George Grierson and mind sharing it with me off the list ? > > Grierson, George A. 1899. Essays on Kashmiri grammar. > Reprinted from the Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society of > Bengal for 1896-1899. London: Luzac. > > > Thanks in advance. > > Yours, > > Mrinal Kaul > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(from the 2001 "mission statement") GRETIL - Goettingen Register of Electronic Texts in Indian Languages: http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.htm From hermantull at GMAIL.COM Thu Dec 15 22:15:25 2011 From: hermantull at GMAIL.COM (Herman Tull) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 11 17:15:25 -0500 Subject: The free indological collection Message-ID: <161227094739.23782.3672322186347108552.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> I was just searching online for a text, and I came across "The Free Indological Collection." (http://www.archive.org/details/freeindological) The number of texts available seems impressive. I had not heard of this project before, and I did not find information of significance online about it. Does anyone have any more information on this project? Thanks, -- Herman Tull Princeton, NJ From RDavidson at FAIRFIELD.EDU Thu Dec 15 22:51:56 2011 From: RDavidson at FAIRFIELD.EDU (Davidson, Ronald) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 11 22:51:56 +0000 Subject: The free indological collection In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <161227094742.23782.1085247552464749996.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> As the site indicates, it is the collection of .pdf and other types of scans accumulated in archive.org to date, classified as those Indological in nature. I use their .pdfs incessantly. Many otherwise difficult to obtain works can be found there, whether because they are an out of copyright Indian or European work, or for other reasons. Between Google.books and archive.org, much of the Indological 19th century has been opened up for use in the last few years. Ronald Davidson Fairfield, CT On 12/15/11 5:16 PM, "Herman Tull" wrote: >I was just searching online for a text, and I came across "The Free >Indological Collection." >(http://www.archive.org/details/freeindological) The number of texts >available seems impressive. > >I had not heard of this project before, and I did not find information >of significance online about it. Does anyone have any more >information on this project? > >Thanks, > >-- >Herman Tull >Princeton, NJ From vjroebuck at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Dec 16 07:21:11 2011 From: vjroebuck at BTINTERNET.COM (Valerie J Roebuck) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 11 07:21:11 +0000 Subject: The free indological collection In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <161227094744.23782.630547508209045231.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Thank you both for this, it looks very useful. Valerie J Roebuck Manchester, UK On 15 Dec 2011, at 22:51, Davidson, Ronald wrote: > As the site indicates, it is the collection of .pdf and other types of > scans accumulated in archive.org to date, classified as those Indological > in nature. > > I use their .pdfs incessantly. Many otherwise difficult to obtain works > can be found there, whether because they are an out of copyright Indian or > European work, or for other reasons. Between Google.books and > archive.org, much of the Indological 19th century has been opened up for > use in the last few years. > > Ronald Davidson > Fairfield, CT > > > > On 12/15/11 5:16 PM, "Herman Tull" wrote: > >> I was just searching online for a text, and I came across "The Free >> Indological Collection." >> (http://www.archive.org/details/freeindological) The number of texts >> available seems impressive. >> >> I had not heard of this project before, and I did not find information >> of significance online about it. Does anyone have any more >> information on this project? >> >> Thanks, >> >> -- >> Herman Tull >> Princeton, NJ From h.arganisjuarez at YAHOO.COM.MX Sat Dec 17 17:05:36 2011 From: h.arganisjuarez at YAHOO.COM.MX (Horacio Francisco Arganis Juarez) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 11 09:05:36 -0800 Subject: Namaste Merry Christmas Message-ID: <161227094759.23782.6040764086685985757.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear professor: Merry Christmas. Please try to pass and help in this petition: On Monday, December 19th, in Tomsk, Russia, a historic court case is taking place. Some of our movement's detractors are making a major court case, attempting to establish that Srila Prabhupada's Bhagavad Gita As It Is is is "extremist literature" and on these grounds have it banned throughout the country. The implications for ISKCON in Russia and even in the former USSR are far reaching. If the devotees lose this case all Srila Prabhupada's books may be banned because they are full of quotations from the Gita. Seeing all of our activities are based on Bhagavad Gita it could conceivably lead to attempts to close our movement in some places. The prosecutors are pushing this absurd case with great determination and vigor. There have already been three court hearings, in which the testimony of the so called "experts" gathered by the prosecutors was recognized as being inadequate. However, the prosecutor's office has requested new testimony, not from well-known experts on Hinduism from Moscow, but from some unknown academics from a local Siberian university. This move clearly suggests that a particular court decision is being engineered. Their approach brings to mind the Inquisitions of the Middle Ages, witch hunts, and the burning of books and persecution of dissidents during the Soviet period of Russian history. Please announce at your Sunday feasts that the programme is being offered to the Lord as an appeal that if He so desires He may help the devotees win this case. The GBC Executive Committee also hereby requests all? scholar in Hinduism to sign an online petition which will be presented to the court on Monday, showing international support for Srila Prabhupada's Bhagavad Gita. Please sign at: http://www.petitions24.com/gita It is in both English and Russian. Please pass the link on to your friends, and encourage whoever you can to sign. We also request all the followers of Srila Prabhupada to pray to Lord Krishna and Lord Nrsimhadeva to protect his movement in Russia, and to help the devotees' efforts in court there to be successful. Hoping this meets you well. Hare Krsna, Your servants, The GBC Executive Committee, Hrdaya Caitanya das (Chairman) Bhakti Caitanya Swami Tamohara das Dr. Horacio Francisco Arganis Ju?rez Lic. M.A. Ph. D. Catedr?tico Investigador de la Universidad Internacional Euroamericana. Departamento de Filosof?a y Religi?n Comparada. Miembro del Instituto de Estudios Filos?ficos de Saltillo A. 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Paul Hackett Columbia University On Dec 17, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Dominik Wujastyk wrote: > Elizabeth's note jogged my memory about The Penn Club, which I've heard recommended. > > http://www.pennclub.co.uk/ > > Dominik > > > On 17 December 2011 14:42, Elizabeth De Michelis wrote: > Dear Prof Olivelle, > > in case you are still looking for a place to stay in London, this may be of interest: > > http://www.allenhall.org.uk/facilities/accommodation.html > > I 'discovered' when I attended an event there: central, quiet, clean, and much less expensive than commercial accommodation, it may just fit the bill! > > Best regards, > > Elizabeth De Michelis > > > From: Patrick Olivelle > To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk > Sent: Sunday, 11 December 2011, 12:45 > Subject: [INDOLOGY] London lodging > > I will be in London for some work in August for about a week. I wonder whether any of you know of accommodation in central London other than hotels that charge you an arm and a leg!! 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Best regards, Elizabeth De Michelis ________________________________ From: Patrick Olivelle To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk Sent: Sunday, 11 December 2011, 12:45 Subject: [INDOLOGY] London lodging I will be in London for some work in August for about a week. I wonder whether any of you know of accommodation in central London other than hotels that charge you an arm and a leg!! Even accommodation in a university hostel condition. Thanks. Patrick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I wonder > whether any of you know of accommodation in central London other than > hotels that charge you an arm and a leg!! Even accommodation in a > university hostel condition. Thanks. > > Patrick > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark.allon at SYDNEY.EDU.AU Sat Dec 17 09:39:04 2011 From: mark.allon at SYDNEY.EDU.AU (Mark Allon) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 11 20:39:04 +1100 Subject: Third Australasian Sanskrit Conference (Third ASC), 20-22 July, 2012 Message-ID: <161227094746.23782.6458220113554373727.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear fellow Sanskritists, The Third Australasian Sanskrit Conference will be held at the Women?s College, University of Sydney, 20-22 July, 2012. Thanks to the generosity and collegiality of Australian Catholic University, we are delighted to announce that the keynote speaker will be Professor Francis X Clooney. Professor Clooney is the Parkman Professor of Divinity and Professor of Comparative Theology at Harvard. After earning his doctorate in South Asian languages and civilizations (University of Chicago, 1984), he taught at Boston College until joining Harvard in 2005. His primary areas of scholarship are theological commentarial writings in the Sanskrit and Tamil traditions of Hindu India. For many years he has served the academic community through membership of the editorial board of ten prestigious journals, including the European Journal for Philosophy of Religion, International Journal of Hindu Studies, Journal of the American Academy of Religion, Theological Studies and Journal of Religious Ethics. He is the author of more than 14 books and over 160 book chapters and articles in leading journals. He is coming to Australia in mid-2012 as a Distinguished Visiting Research Fellow in the Asia-Pacific Centre for Inter-religious Dialogue and the Faculty of Theology and Philosophy at Australian Catholic University. The conference web-site is https://sites.google.com/site/thirdasc2012. Information will be added to the site as it becomes available. Those interested in presenting a paper at the conference should submit a title and abstract of approximately 250 words by 31 March, 2012. The selection of papers and presentations will be made by members of the organising committee. Abstracts and all correspondence should be sent to ThirdASC at gmail.com. With kind regards The Organising Committee Mark Allon, Jennifer Cover, Andrew McGarrity, University of Sydney (http://sydney.edu.au/arts/indian/) Anita C. Ray, Australian Catholic University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rajam at EARTHLINK.NET Sun Dec 18 16:00:24 2011 From: rajam at EARTHLINK.NET (rajam) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 11 08:00:24 -0800 Subject: Request for information concerning two words for musical instruments In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <161227094767.23782.7256176795168632170.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> 1. As a person from Madurai in South India, I'm very familiar with the "nagaraa" drum used during festivals of the local temple. 2. In my ancestral village Viravanallur (Tirunelveli District), there's a "nagaraa mandapam" close to our agraharam. 3. Upon my request to a professor in Chennai (Tamilnadu, South India), I got the following details. This professor is married to a woman from Meghalaya, so the details must have solid authenticity. Here are the details with two images of the drums attached. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From Professor Nagarajan Vadivel: ---------------------------------------------- Meghalaya's main ethnic communities, each having its own distinctive customs and cultural traditions are the Khasis (of Mon-Khmer ancestry), the Garos (of Tibeto-Burman origin) and the Jaintias said to be from South East Asia. The common trait binding all three communities is its matrilineal system in which the family linage is taken from the mother's side The principal languages in Meghalaya are Khasi, Pnar and Garo with English as the official language of the State. It was at the initiative of the Christian missionaries that the Khasi, Pnar and Garo languages and literature have developed and emerged in the list of Modern Indian Languages. The Khasi language is believed to be one of the very few surviving dialects of the Mon-khmer family of languages in India today. I am afraid that there is a mix up in the terms mentioned in the email. ?One of the drums collected was from the Khasi of Meghalaya, a wooden kettledrum named by the Khasi as ka naakraa. Sachs traces the etymology through Arabic, Persian, Hindustani/Urdu (naqqaara, which is correct), and Skt. naagaraa (?). A second drum from the Garo of western Meghalaya, a double-headed wooden drum, has the Garo name dama, for which Sachs indicates 'zu sanskr. daamaamaa' (?). In South Asian tradition, damaamaa is a Persian and Urdu name for a very large metal kettledrum in Mughal India. http://megtourism.gov.in/garofest.html Wangala Festival The Wangala is a Garo post-harvest festival that marks the end of the agricultural year. It is an act of thanksgiving to the sun god of fertility, known as Misi-A-Gilpa-Saljong-Galapa. A nagara (a special drum used for calling the people on solemn occasions) is beaten. The men wear dhotis, half-jackets and turbans with feathers. The women wear colourful dresses made of silk, blouses and a head-wrap with feathers. The highlight of the festival is when 300 dancers and 100 drums descend on the field in all their splendour in celebration. The Khasis and Jaintias are particularly fond of songs praising the nature like lakes, waterfalls, hills etc. and also expressing love for their land. They use different types of musical instruments like drums, duitara and instruments similar to guitar, flutes, pipes and cymbals. http://musicforum.weebly.com/1/category/all/1.html As far as the written form is concerned the Kashi language is like Tamil has a huge repository of poems in oral form depicting the valor, love and devotion to nature. Attempt was made to introduce the script to kashi using Sylhet Nagai. The people of Meghalaya did not adopt the Bengali script. The Britishers who a charter with the ruler of Meghalaya developed the Roman script and the Roman script is currently used. In the field of music due to its proximity to Hindi belt and due to the dominance of Persian in the area many words could have entered into the daily usasge words in the speech community. As indicated below damaru is an Indian term and not an Islamic term. Since the inquiry is is on ethnomusicology the following passage will be of help The invasion of India by Persian and the Mongolian armies brought in a newer stream, though contacts with these countries were centuries older. The mercantile, religious and martial connections of northern Indian with its bordering lands had been in existence from ages, and with these also were linked the exchange of music and instruments. Various flutes and drums as depicted in our own murals as well as in those of Central Asia, besides certain common words in music, bear ample testimony to this fact. But, a drastic encounter began by about the 11th Century A.D. from when what is termed the Islamic influence noticeable begins. However, it may not be correct to call all this Islamic, except for the Sufi content and spirit, just as it would not be right to think of a musical instrument as of Hindu origin, except the damaru, the veena and the venu which have definite associations with the pantheon. Be that as it may, along with the fresh ingress, developed different musical forms and quite possibly even instruments such as the daff, the sitar, the sarode and the shehnai were brought by these aliens. While it has to be conceded that number of instruments have come to us from outside, it is equally true that quite a large number have also traveled out. The Far East received many instruments from India, mainly through traders and Buddhist monks who went on missionary work; so has the Middle West. As a matter of fact, the general consensus of opinion is that bowed instruments originated here and then migrated to various parts of the world. Again, from the 8th Century A.D. till about the 15th Yavadveepa and Suvarnadveepa (present Indonesia) were highly Indianized musically, which fact is revealed in the names of their old instruments: padahi (Skt. Pataha), murava (Skt. Muraja, Tamil murasu), vangsi (Skt. vamsi), kahala, ghanta and bheri. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ? ? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Hope it helps, V.S. Rajam On Dec 17, 2011, at 7:35 PM, Gregory Bailey wrote: > Dear List, > > A colleague who is not on the list made the request, included below. > > If anybody can throw some light on this I would be most appreciative. > > Thanks in advance. > > Cheers, > > Greg Bailey > > > ?One of the drums collected was from the Khasi of Meghalaya, a > wooden > kettledrum named by the Khasi as ka naakraa. Sachs traces the > etymology > through Arabic, Persian, Hindustani/Urdu (naqqaara, which is > correct), and > Skt. naagaraa (?). > > A second drum from the Garo of western Meghalaya, a double-headed > wooden > drum, has the Garo name dama, for which Sachs indicates 'zu sanskr. > daamaamaa' (?). In South Asian tradition, damaamaa is a Persian and > Urdu > name for a very large metal kettledrum in Mughal India. > > Though both local drum names could well be loan words from South Asian > culture, in my annotations I indicate that naagaraa and daamaamaa > cannot > be traced in Skt. (Could not find either in my M.M-W. and Macdonell > dictionaries.) > > Is this comment correct? If they are traceable, I imagine it would > be as > very late loan words into Skt. but don't know of the sources to > confirm or > deny this. > > At the moment I'm retaining my 'not traceable' comment. Any light > you can > shed on this relatively minor yet tricky issue, given the prestige > of Skt. > in South Asia and Sachs in ethnomusicology, would be greatly > appreciated. > It doesn't seem appropriate to let Sachs's Skt. connections stand, > however > well intended, if they are a mistake. I simply don't know where he > obtained his ideas about Skr. naagaraa and daamaamaa, and question > their > validity.? > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: wangla1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 12518 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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A second drum from the Garo of western Meghalaya, a double-headed wooden drum, has the Garo name dama, for which Sachs indicates 'zu sanskr. daamaamaa' (?). In South Asian tradition, damaamaa is a Persian and Urdu name for a very large metal kettledrum in Mughal India. Though both local drum names could well be loan words from South Asian culture, in my annotations I indicate that naagaraa and daamaamaa cannot be traced in Skt. (Could not find either in my M.M-W. and Macdonell dictionaries.) Is this comment correct? If they are traceable, I imagine it would be as very late loan words into Skt. but don't know of the sources to confirm or deny this. At the moment I'm retaining my 'not traceable' comment. Any light you can shed on this relatively minor yet tricky issue, given the prestige of Skt. in South Asia and Sachs in ethnomusicology, would be greatly appreciated. It doesn't seem appropriate to let Sachs's Skt. connections stand, however well intended, if they are a mistake. 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URL: From rajam at EARTHLINK.NET Sun Dec 18 23:44:50 2011 From: rajam at EARTHLINK.NET (rajam) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 11 15:44:50 -0800 Subject: Request for information concerning two words for musical instruments In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <161227094771.23782.3861455035493528852.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> I got some more information on this quest from a senior research scholar in Chennai. Here you go: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ As I know know/see as a regular feature at temple festival processions from my childhood (aged 71 years now) at my place Mylapore Mada streets of Arulmiku Kapaaleeswarar temple which is hardly a cricket ball throw from my house. The naagraa drums are tandem vessels, (set of 2 drums) each of the size nearly of that of north Indian tabla placed in the back of a bull hanging both sides from the centre of the backbone of the animal and the player standing by one side, walks or stands on ground depends on the movements of the procession. He plays with two different type of sticks that are hardly a foot and and a half long. One stick strikes the drum just few inches away from end so that the stick itself will vibrate on strike while the other being played by another type of stick held by another hand having a hooked end in which only the hook's center strikes The two drums are played with its respective sticks reasonably ln a fast and the rhythm changes during playing them and many times the player switches strikes crosswise between the drums. As usual the drum and other instrument the players go in front of the procession before the deity and the priests chanting from the of Holy scriptures follow the deity from back (in Saivite temples) The use of of an animal back is only to locate it in procession and those double drums are placed in floor on stabilising rings made out of straw in the temple halls and played during important inside-temple rituals. The rhythm with oscileting peak and also very high pitch during aarthi etc. Regarding the word's etymology naagraa may be connected with naagraa style of temple architecture of the sikaaraas as found in Orissa Or that may be connected with naagars the people from north east. Because only the Buddhists from Mongolian connected race who percolated the Himalaya ranges into the plains and when migrated to south for preeching buddism they are referred here as naagars. You know about 'naagaannikai connected with a chozha king/marriage/ son born / kept in a boat / reached - - - - - etc ' The Town Naga(r)pattinam got its name from Bhuddists who had their monasteries near sea shore even during Kolothunga chola of 12 the century CE (Leidon Copperplate grants - the Grant was on award against a request by a camping warrior general from Far east Buddhist King anpudan NDLS Mylapore ++++++++++++++++++++++++ Hope this helps, V.S. Rajam On Dec 17, 2011, at 7:35 PM, Gregory Bailey wrote: > Dear List, > > A colleague who is not on the list made the request, included below. > > If anybody can throw some light on this I would be most appreciative. > > Thanks in advance. > > Cheers, > > Greg Bailey > > > ?One of the drums collected was from the Khasi of Meghalaya, a wooden > kettledrum named by the Khasi as ka naakraa. Sachs traces the > etymology > through Arabic, Persian, Hindustani/Urdu (naqqaara, which is > correct), and > Skt. naagaraa (?). > > A second drum from the Garo of western Meghalaya, a double-headed > wooden > drum, has the Garo name dama, for which Sachs indicates 'zu sanskr. > daamaamaa' (?). In South Asian tradition, damaamaa is a Persian and > Urdu > name for a very large metal kettledrum in Mughal India. > > Though both local drum names could well be loan words from South Asian > culture, in my annotations I indicate that naagaraa and daamaamaa > cannot > be traced in Skt. (Could not find either in my M.M-W. and Macdonell > dictionaries.) > > Is this comment correct? If they are traceable, I imagine it would > be as > very late loan words into Skt. but don't know of the sources to > confirm or > deny this. > > At the moment I'm retaining my 'not traceable' comment. Any light > you can > shed on this relatively minor yet tricky issue, given the prestige > of Skt. > in South Asia and Sachs in ethnomusicology, would be greatly > appreciated. > It doesn't seem appropriate to let Sachs's Skt. connections stand, > however > well intended, if they are a mistake. I simply don't know where he > obtained his ideas about Skr. naagaraa and daamaamaa, and question > their > validity.? > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From conlon at U.WASHINGTON.EDU Mon Dec 19 01:06:02 2011 From: conlon at U.WASHINGTON.EDU (Frank Conlon) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 11 17:06:02 -0800 Subject: hotel in Mumbai In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <161227094778.23782.10730560360793688076.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Al, It has been many years since I used it, but there was a relatively nice, but not too expensive hotel a bit south of the Gateway, the Ascot. BUT I haven't been inside it for a long time. Frank Frank F. Conlon Professor Emeritus of History, South Asian Studies & Comparative Religion University of Washington Seattle, WA 98195-3560 USA Co-editor, H-ASIA Managing Director, Bibliography of Asian Studies Online On Sun, 18 Dec 2011, Al Collins wrote: > My wife will be in Mumbai in late January for three days, on her way to > another destination. She wants to spend 3 nights in Mumbai fairly near the > Gateway of India in order to visit Elephanta and recover from jet lag. The > Taj Mahal is quite expensive, and I'm wondering if anyone has other > suggestions. > ? > Appreciate any help, > ? > Al Collins > > From james_fitzgerald at BROWN.EDU Mon Dec 19 13:34:25 2011 From: james_fitzgerald at BROWN.EDU (Fitzgerald, James) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 11 08:34:25 -0500 Subject: Ph.D. Scholarship in the History of Mathematical Sciences in India Message-ID: <161227094789.23782.13356096301686881123.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear colleagues, I post this on behalf of Dr. Clemency Montelle of Christchurch, New Zealand. Please circulate as widely as possible. ============================================================== Announcement of a PhD Scholarship in the History of Mathematical Sciences in India An international project on the history of computational methods in Sanskrit mathematical science has been awarded a three-year grant from New Zealand's premier fund for research excellence, the Marsden Fund Council, administered by the Royal Society of New Zealand. http://www.royalsociety.org.**nz/2010/09/24/2010-round-**press-releases/ As part of the activities of this project, the investigators are offering a doctoral study and research opportunity with the title 'Research Associate' carrying three years of full support for 2012-2014 for the completion of a doctoral degree at the University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand (http://www.canterbury.ac.nz/)**. The scholarship will provide an annual living allowance/stipend of NZ$25,000 and tuition costs for three years, and is tenable for study towards the degree of Doctor of Philosophy in the appropriate department or program (for example, the Department of Mathematics and Statistics or the History and Philosophy of Science program) on the topic of the history of mathematical sciences. The Research Associate will research and write under the supervision of the Principal Investigator a PhD thesis relating to the project goals, e.g., a critical edition with translation and commentary of a previously unpublished text on Sanskrit computational astronomy. He or she is also expected to assist (at a workload of 12 hours per week) with project related research tasks. The successful applicant will meet the following criteria at the time of appointment: *attainment of a sufficiently advanced level of study (preferably a Master's degree) to permit completion of the doctorate within the three years of the project. * sufficient knowledge of and interest in some combination of relevant fields of study, within history of the mathematical sciences and/or Indology, to design and complete under the supervisor's guidance a doctoral thesis relating to the project's objectives. * initiative and adaptability to carry out tasks in the Research Associate workload. * ability to enroll in the PhD programme at the University of Canterbury, including a minimum of eight to nine months per year residence in Christchurch, New Zealand to pursue their studies. With the approval of the Principal Investigator, this position may be held concurrently with any other scholarship, award, or bursary, excluding any such award requiring teaching or other duties separate from this project. How to Apply Inquiries about the terms and scope of this position are encouraged. Please contact us through the addresses given below. To apply, please send a cover letter briefly describing your relevant background and interests, a recent academic curriculum vitae, and the names and contact information of two references. Application deadline is 16 January 2012. Applications (pdf format preferable) and queries should be sent to: Dr Clemency Montelle: c.montelle at math.canterbury.ac.**nz or Department of Mathematics and Statistics University of Canterbury Private Bag 4800 Christchurch, 8140 New Zealand Dr Clemency Montelle (Principal Investigator) c.montelle at math.canterbury.ac. **nz Department of Mathematics and Statistics University of Canterbury Christchurch, New Zealand Dr Kim Plofker (Associate Investigator) plofkerk at union.edu Department of Mathematics Union College Schenectady NY 12308, USA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From slindqui at MAIL.SMU.EDU Mon Dec 19 10:05:26 2011 From: slindqui at MAIL.SMU.EDU (Lindquist, Steven) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 11 10:05:26 +0000 Subject: hotel in Mumbai In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <161227094784.23782.128584853820644548.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> My wife and I either stay at Suba Palace or the Hotel Regency in Fort (a 15 min. walk to the Gateway). Our preference is for the latter as it caters more to the Indian businessman than the tourist, but both are nice enough. Steven Lindquist Southern Methodist University faculty.smu.edu/slindqui On Dec 19, 2011, at 3:17 AM, "(Maitreya) Borayin Larios" > wrote: Hi Al, I would recommend the Suba Palace which is right behind the Gate of India. It is not the cheapest (around 5000 Rs) but at least it is decent, something which is nowadays hard to get in Mumbai if you don't want to spend lot's of money. I stayed there two years ago on a couple of occasions. http://hotelsubapalace.com/ All the best for your trip, Maitreya ______________________________ (Maitreya) Borayin Larios J?gerpfad 13 69118 Heidelberg Germany Mobile: (+49)17630489172 Home: (+49)62211379228 http://www.sai.uni-heidelberg.de/abt/IND/mitarbeiter/larios/larios.php http://www.flickr.com/photos/shrimaitreya/ On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 12:52 AM, Al Collins > wrote: My wife will be in Mumbai in late January for three days, on her way to another destination. She wants to spend 3 nights in Mumbai fairly near the Gateway of India in order to visit Elephanta and recover from jet lag. The Taj Mahal is quite expensive, and I'm wondering if anyone has other suggestions. Appreciate any help, Al Collins From shrimaitreya at GMAIL.COM Mon Dec 19 09:16:16 2011 From: shrimaitreya at GMAIL.COM ((Maitreya) Borayin Larios) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 11 10:16:16 +0100 Subject: hotel in Mumbai In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <161227094781.23782.1512099991265389038.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Hi Al, I would recommend the Suba Palace which is right behind the Gate of India. It is not the cheapest (around 5000 Rs) but at least it is decent, something which is nowadays hard to get in Mumbai if you don't want to spend lot's of money. I stayed there two years ago on a couple of occasions. http://hotelsubapalace.com/ All the best for your trip, Maitreya ______________________________ (Maitreya) Borayin Larios J?gerpfad 13 69118 Heidelberg Germany Mobile: (+49)17630489172 Home: (+49)62211379228 http://www.sai.uni-heidelberg.de/abt/IND/mitarbeiter/larios/larios.php http://www.flickr.com/photos/shrimaitreya/ On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 12:52 AM, Al Collins wrote: > My wife will be in Mumbai in late January for three days, on her way to > another destination. She wants to spend 3 nights in Mumbai fairly near the > Gateway of India in order to visit Elephanta and recover from jet lag. The > Taj Mahal is quite expensive, and I'm wondering if anyone has other > suggestions. > > Appreciate any help, > > Al Collins > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From whitakjl at WFU.EDU Tue Dec 20 01:28:02 2011 From: whitakjl at WFU.EDU (Jarrod Whitaker) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 11 20:28:02 -0500 Subject: Upanayana Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <161227094795.23782.15089452725890840660.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear Colleagues: A Master's student of mine is working on the Sankhayana Grhya Sutra description of the Upanayana and Samavartana rites for his thesis. He has completed his translation of both rites and we are going through his translation and exegesis. Can anyone help with the meaning of the following three lines from II.2: ga??n?? tveti ga?ak?m?n ||13|| To those who desire of a number [of followers/attendants] he says the verse ?You of multitudes?? (RV. II.23.1). ?gant? m? ri?a?yateti yodh?n ||14|| To warriors he says ?Come here, do not suffer harm? (R.V. VIII.20.1). mah?vy?hrtibhirvy?dhit?n ||15|| To the sick he says the great utterances (mah?vy?hrti). We cannot figure out what these three lines are doing. They would structurally correspond to the three varna-s mentioned up to this point, but I am unsure of even this. But if this is so, then line 13 would refer to a brahmin, but what does gana mean here? A "following"? a "polity"? And why in 15 are vaisya called "sick" (vyaadhitaan) and why are the mahaavyaahr.ti-s spoken to them? Are these lines exceptions in the case of special initiates or par for the course for all initiates? Oldenberg is not helpful and neither are the other sources we know of. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Cheers and happy holidays JLW -- Jarrod L. Whitaker, Ph.D. Associate Professor, South Asian Religions Graduate Program Director Wake Forest University Department of Religion P.O. Box 7212 Winston-Salem, NC 27109 whitakjl at wfu.edu p 336.758.4162 f 336.758.4462 From slindqui at MAIL.SMU.EDU Tue Dec 20 11:18:27 2011 From: slindqui at MAIL.SMU.EDU (Lindquist, Steven) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 11 11:18:27 +0000 Subject: Macintosh Devanagari font In-Reply-To: <009101ccbf06$40d03e40$c270bac0$@no> Message-ID: <161227094802.23782.4473079286296318901.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear Lars, I'm posting to the list as this may apply to others. A person may not need a new keyboard file for certain fonts when transitioning from OS9 to OSX. OSX changed to using 'resource' (.rsrc) files for keyboard layouts. The solution (at least one we came up with that allowed Manjushree by Madhav to work in OSX) is simply to remove any file type from the current keyboard name (.layout or whatever it is; I don't remember now) and replace it with .rsrc and then reinstall. This may or may not work here, but since it works in one case, it is worth a try. Best, Steven STEVEN LINDQUIST, PH.D. ASSISTANT PROFESSOR DIRECTOR OF ASIAN STUDIES _____________ Department of Religious Studies Southern Methodist University PO Box 750202 | Dallas | TX | 75275 http://faculty.smu.edu/slindqui From: Lars Martin Fosse > Reply-To: Lars Martin Fosse > Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 11:58:06 +0100 To: Indology > Subject: [INDOLOGY] Macintosh Devanagari font Dear members of the list, A person who is not a member of the listasked me to pass on the the following request to you. ?Ecological Linguistics appears to be out of business. They are not answering their email, nor answering their phone, nor answering their snail mail. I was a user of their Macintosh Devanagari font for Systems 9 and earlier, which doesn't work on OS X. Theyupgraded that font for OS X, but are no longer around to fill orders. Wouldsomeone be kind enough to send that updated font to sfauthor at aol.com? In fact, I may only need the keyboard file, since I updated all of my OS 9 fonts with a program called FontXChange. Huge thanks in advance! ? Best regards Lars Martin Fosse -------------------------------------------- Facebook.com/YogaVidya.com YogaVidya.com From lmfosse at GETMAIL.NO Tue Dec 20 10:58:06 2011 From: lmfosse at GETMAIL.NO (Lars Martin Fosse) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 11 11:58:06 +0100 Subject: Macintosh Devanagari font Message-ID: <161227094798.23782.4808341504105300302.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear members of the list, A person who is not a member of the list asked me to pass on the the following request to you. "Ecological Linguistics appears to be out of business. They are not answering their email, nor answering their phone, nor answering their snail mail. I was a user of their Macintosh Devanagari font for Systems 9 and earlier, which doesn't work on OS X. They upgraded that font for OS X, but are no longer around to fill orders. Would someone be kind enough to send that updated font to sfauthor at aol.com? In fact, I may only need the keyboard file, since I updated all of my OS 9 fonts with a program called FontXChange. Huge thanks in advance! " Best regards Lars Martin Fosse -------------------------------------------- Facebook.com/YogaVidya.com YogaVidya.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From asko.parpola at HELSINKI.FI Tue Dec 20 11:17:47 2011 From: asko.parpola at HELSINKI.FI (Asko Parpola) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 11 13:17:47 +0200 Subject: Upanayana Question In-Reply-To: <4EEFE4A2.1050608@wfu.edu> Message-ID: <161227094800.23782.13230451668655845979.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> The corresponding suutras of the Kau.siitakag.rhyasuutra are Ratna Gopaala Bha.t.ta's edition (1908: 14) identical with the ;saa:nkhaayanag.rhyasuutra, but in T. R. Chintamani's edition (1944: 79) they run as follows with Bhavatraata's commentary: 2.2.8 ga.naanaa.m tveti ga.nakaamam Bhavatraata: ga.naanaa.m tvety anaya rcaa ga.nakaamam upanayed devasya tveti 2.2.9 aagantaa maa ri.sa.nyateti yaudham Bhavatraata: upanayed ity evaanu.sa:nga.h 2.2.10 mahaavyaah.rtibhir vyaadhitam Bhavatraata: upanayed ity evaanu.sa:nga.h Vaasudeva's ;saa:nkhaayanag.rhyasa:ngraha.h: ...devas tvaa savitu.h prasave ;svinor baahubhyaa.m puu.s.no hastaabhyaam upanayaami devadatteti mantra.m maa.navakanaamopalak.sita.m japet / atha maa.navakasamuuhaadhipatyam icchati tato ga.naanaa.m tvaa ga.napati.m havaamaha ity etaam .rca.m japet / aagantaa maa ri.sety anena .rcaa (sic) k.satyiyaan upanayet / atha maa.navakas traivar.niko vyaadhito bhavati tato mahaavyaah.rtii; catasro japet / o.m bhuu.h o.m bhuva.h o.m sva.h o.m mahar bhuur bhuva.h sva.h, upanayaami devadattety anena mantre.na / eva.m trayaa.naam api var.naanaa.m mantre maa.navakanaamoccaarayitavyam / apare tv eva.m vyaacak.sate sevasya tvaa savitur ity anena saha samuccaya iti / ... Both Somanaathopaadhyaaya (1908: 29) and Ganga Sagar Rai (1995: 30) have maa.navakasamuuhaadhipatyam icchati, but one should undoubtedly read maa.navake samuuhaadhipatyam icchati, or maa.navaka.h samuudhaadhipatyam icchati (this latter reading is in line with atha maa.navakas traivar.niko vyaadhito bhavati). With best wishes, also for a Happy Christmas and New Year, Asko Parpola Quoting "Jarrod Whitaker" : > Dear Colleagues: > A Master's student of mine is working on the Sankhayana Grhya Sutra > description of the Upanayana and Samavartana rites for his thesis. > He has completed his translation of both rites and we are going > through his translation and exegesis. Can anyone help with the > meaning of the following three lines from II.2: > > ga??n?? tveti ga?ak?m?n ||13|| > To those who desire of a number [of followers/attendants] he says > the verse ?You of > multitudes?? (RV. II.23.1). > > ?gant? m? ri?a?yateti yodh?n ||14|| > To warriors he says ?Come here, do not suffer harm? (R.V. VIII.20.1). > > mah?vy?hrtibhirvy?dhit?n ||15|| > To the sick he says the great utterances (mah?vy?hrti). > > > We cannot figure out what these three lines are doing. They would > structurally correspond to the three varna-s mentioned up to this > point, but I am unsure of even this. But if this is so, then line 13 > would refer to a brahmin, but what does gana mean here? A > "following"? a "polity"? And why in 15 are vaisya called "sick" > (vyaadhitaan) and why are the mahaavyaahr.ti-s spoken to them? Are > these lines exceptions in the case of special initiates or par for > the course for all initiates? > > Oldenberg is not helpful and neither are the other sources we know of. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Cheers and happy holidays > > JLW > > > -- > > Jarrod L. Whitaker, Ph.D. > Associate Professor, South Asian Religions > Graduate Program Director > > Wake Forest University > Department of Religion > P.O. Box 7212 > Winston-Salem, NC 27109 > whitakjl at wfu.edu > p 336.758.4162 > f 336.758.4462 > > From zydenbos at UNI-MUENCHEN.DE Tue Dec 20 21:58:57 2011 From: zydenbos at UNI-MUENCHEN.DE (Robert Zydenbos) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 11 22:58:57 +0100 Subject: two Tibetological research fellowships advertised in Munich Message-ID: <161227094805.23782.15992405680609819907.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Not Indological, but perhaps of interest for those readers who combine Indian and Tibetan studies: the University of Munich has advertised two positions (one PhD studentship, one postdoc fellowship) in a research project on kingship in Tibet: English language ads: PhD: https://www.h-net.org/jobs/job_display.php?id=43786 Postdoc: https://www.h-net.org/jobs/job_display.php?id=43785 German language ads: PhD: http://www.uni-muenchen.de/aktuelles/stellenangebote/wissenschaft/20111216123043.html Postdoc: http://www.uni-muenchen.de/aktuelles/stellenangebote/wissenschaft/20111124140700.html These are also announced on the research group's website: http://www.kingship.indologie.uni-muenchen.de/index.html Applications should arrive by 30 January 2012, in triplicate. RZ ----- Prof. Dr. Robert J. Zydenbos Institute of Indology and Tibetology Department of Asian Studies University of Munich Germany Tel. (+49-89-) 2180-5782 Fax (+49-89-) 2180-5827 Web http://www.lrz-muenchen.de/~zydenbos From McComas.Taylor at ANU.EDU.AU Tue Dec 20 22:18:32 2011 From: McComas.Taylor at ANU.EDU.AU (McComas Taylor) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 11 09:18:32 +1100 Subject: ANU Hindi Short Film Competition In-Reply-To: <75a0d94d1dbce.4ef109b4@anu.edu.au> Message-ID: <161227094807.23782.3045682322004312206.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear Indology Colleagues Would you kindly circulate this to all your Hindi teaching colleagues? Apologies for any cross-posting With thanks in advance and best wishes for the holiday season McComas ======== Dear Colleagues,? It would be appreciated if you could kindly circulate this update to your Hindi students regarding an extension to the upload deadline for the Australian National University's Hindi Short Film Competition.? With the festive season in full swing, we have decided to extend the deadline by one month to the ?31st of January, 2012. I encourage you all to use this opportunity as a fun platform in which your students and departments can showcase their Hindi skills and creativity to the rest of the South Asian academic departments around the world. This is an opportunity for us to come closer together in a celebration of our shared passion of Hindi. Please remind all of the potential entrants that apart from guaranteed global fame, there is a first (and only) prize of aud$500 up for grabs. The rules are quite simple: 5 minute maximum duration Current non-native pg / ug students of Hindi are eligible Content should be fun, informative, creative and in Hindi -- All the best, Patrick McCartney? skype - psdmccartney Canberra Australia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfpCc8G_cUw&feature=related -- McComas Taylor Head, South Asia Program ANU College of Asia and the Pacific Tel: +61 2 6125 3179 Location: Baldessin Precinct Building, 4.24 Website: McComas Taylor(http://arktos.anu.edu.au/chill/index.php/mct)Courses: Learn about some of my courses:? Sanskrit 1(http://www.screenr.com/NSBs)? |? Indian Epics(http://screenr.com/uUBs) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From toke.knudsen at ONEONTA.EDU Wed Dec 21 17:11:31 2011 From: toke.knudsen at ONEONTA.EDU (Toke L. Knudsen) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 11 12:11:31 -0500 Subject: PhD Scholarship in History of Mathematical Astronomy in India Message-ID: <161227094809.23782.17913225436816044933.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear all, The below announcement might be of interest to your students. All best wishes, Toke ===== Announcement of a PhD Scholarship in the History of Mathematical Sciences in India An international project on the history of computational methods in Sanskrit mathematical science has been awarded a three-year grant from New Zealand's premier fund for research excellence, the Marsden Fund Council, administered by the Royal Society of New Zealand. http://www.royalsociety.org.nz/2010/09/24/2010-round-press-releases/ As part of the activities of this project, the investigators are offering a doctoral study and research opportunity with the title 'Research Associate' carrying three years of full support for 2012-2014 for the completion of a doctoral degree at the University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand (http://www.canterbury.ac.nz/). The scholarship will provide an annual living allowance/stipend of NZ$25,000 and tuition costs for three years, and is tenable for study towards the degree of Doctor of Philosophy in the appropriate department or program (for example, the Department of Mathematics and Statistics or the History and Philosophy of Science program) on the topic of the history of mathematical sciences. The Research Associate will research and write under the supervision of the Principal Investigator a PhD thesis relating to the project goals, e.g., a critical edition with translation and commentary of a previously unpublished text on Sanskrit computational astronomy. He or she is also expected to assist (at a workload of 12 hours per week) with project related research tasks. The successful applicant will meet the following criteria at the time of appointment: *attainment of a sufficiently advanced level of study (preferably a Master's degree) to permit completion of the doctorate within the three years of the project. * sufficient knowledge of and interest in some combination of relevant fields of study, within history of the mathematical sciences and/or Indology, to design and complete under the supervisor's guidance a doctoral thesis relating to the project's objectives. * initiative and adaptability to carry out tasks in the Research Associate workload. * ability to enroll in the PhD programme at the University of Canterbury, including a minimum of eight to nine months per year residence in Christchurch, New Zealand to pursue their studies. With the approval of the Principal Investigator, this position may be held concurrently with any other scholarship, award, or bursary, excluding any such award requiring teaching or other duties separate from this project. How to Apply Inquiries about the terms and scope of this position are encouraged. Please contact us through the addresses given below. To apply, please send a cover letter briefly describing your relevant background and interests, a recent academic curriculum vitae, and the names and contact information of two references. Application deadline is 16 January 2012. Applications (pdf format preferable) and queries should be sent to: Dr Clemency Montelle: c.montelle at math.canterbury.ac.nz or Department of Mathematics and Statistics University of Canterbury Private Bag 4800 Christchurch, 8140 New Zealand Dr Clemency Montelle (Principal Investigator) c.montelle at math.canterbury.ac.nz Department of Mathematics and Statistics University of Canterbury Christchurch, New Zealand Dr Kim Plofker (Associate Investigator) plofkerk at union.edu Department of Mathematics Union College Schenectady NY 12308, USA From lmfosse at GETMAIL.NO Thu Dec 22 09:37:53 2011 From: lmfosse at GETMAIL.NO (Lars Martin Fosse) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 11 10:37:53 +0100 Subject: VS: 2nd try Message-ID: <161227094811.23782.12902757198042371250.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear members of the list, Once again, I am forwarding a message from Brian Akers, who is not on Indology. If anyone can help, he'd be delighted. Best regards, Lars Martin Fosse Lars Martin Fosse Haugerudvn. 76 0674 Oslo - Norway Phone: 47 22 32 12 19 Mobile: 47 90 91 91 45 Email: lmfosse at getmail.no llmfosse at online.no Fra: Sfauthor at aol.com [mailto:Sfauthor at aol.com] Sendt: 21. desember 2011 21:28 Til: lmfosse at getmail.no; lmfosse at online.no Emne: 2nd try Big thanks to Lars for posting my request, and an even bigger thanks to Steven Lindquist for his helpful suggestion. Unfortunately, I made the switch to OS X about four years ago and no longer have that file on my computer. I still have the original floppy disk that I purchased twenty years ago, but now none of our computers have a floppy-disk drive! I realize that what I'm asking for is a bit of a hassle, so I'd be delighted to send the first person living in the United States who sends the updated Ecological Linguistics Devanagari font for Mac OS X to sfauthor at aol.com a complete set of our paperbacks in appreciation. 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Best regards, Oliver Hellwig From jhakgirish at YAHOO.COM Sun Dec 25 05:44:17 2011 From: jhakgirish at YAHOO.COM (girish jha) Date: Sat, 24 Dec 11 21:44:17 -0800 Subject: Navavarsam Madhumayam 2012 Message-ID: <161227094822.23782.3836998691796844302.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear? Indologists, Please accept my very best wishes for a divinely merry Christmas and a happy, prosperous and spiritual New Year 2012. ???????????? Merry? Christmas? 2012 Yad?gamena? prakrt?ih ? prasann? Su??dval? j?yata? pus?pit?? bh?h?. Ks?am?vat?ram?? muditendut?ram ? Kr?is?t?an?r?yan?am ?natas tam?.? // 1// Saccid?nandar?p?ya? sargasthityantak?rin?e. Haraye? dhy?nagamy?ya? kr?is?t??ya? namo? namah?. //2// ??????? Navavars?am?? madhumayam?? 2012 Sahasr?n??o? pr?cy?m? ?kimiva tanut?m? tvam?? kalayasi An?dir nityo? n??as tvam asi? parame?asya? tanayah??. Samr?ddham?? san?s?ram?? sapadi? kuru? divy?tmavibhay? Nir?tan?kam?? g?tam?? dhvanatu? navavars?am?? madhumayam?. //1// Navody?ne? pus?pa? tvam asi? kimu? khinnah?? svavapus?? Nir?so?? nuts?ho vilasasi na saurabhyavidhurah?. Sugandh?nand?bhy?m?? pramadaya? di?o?man?galamay?r Nir?tan?kam?? g?tam?? dhvanatu? navavars?am?? madhumayam?. //2// ??????????????????????????? Kindest regards Sincerely Girish K. Jha Dept of Sanskrit, Patna University Patna 800 005 INDIA ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhakgirish at YAHOO.COM Sun Dec 25 08:51:55 2011 From: jhakgirish at YAHOO.COM (girish jha) Date: Sun, 25 Dec 11 00:51:55 -0800 Subject: Reposting of Navavarsam madhumayam. Message-ID: <161227094828.23782.15364095469539141077.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear? Indologists, Kindly forgive me for reposting as there were errors in the first one. Please accept my very best wishes for a divinely merry Christmas and a happy, prosperous and spiritual New Year 2012. ???????????? Merry? Christmas? 2012 Yad?gamena? prakrt?ih ? prasann? Su??dval? j?yata? pus?pit?? bh?h?. Ks?am?vat?ram?? muditendut?ram ? Kr?is?t?an?r?yan?am ?natas tam?.? // 1// Saccid?nandar?p?ya? sargasthityantak?rin?e. Haraye? dhy?nagamy?ya? kr?is?t??ya? namo? namah?. //2// ??????? Navavars?am?? madhumayam?? 2012 Sahasr?n??o? pr?cy?m? ?kimiva tanut?m? tvam?? kalayasi An?dir nityo? n??as tvam asi? parame?asya? tanayah??. Samr?ddham?? san?s?ram?? sapadi? kuru? divy?tmavibhay? Nir?tan?kam?? g?tam?? dhvanatu? navavars?am?? madhumayam?. //1// Navody?ne? pus?papracaya? ??kimu? khinnah?? svavapus?? Nir?so?? nuts?ho vilasasi na saurabhyavidhurah?. Sugandh?nand?bhy?m?? pramadaya? di?o?man?galamay?r Nir?tan?kam?? g?tam?? dhvanatu? navavars?am?? madhumayam?. //2// ??????????????????????????? Kindest regards Sincerely Girish K. Jha Dept of Sanskrit, Patna University Patna 800 005 INDIA ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: unknown sender Subject: no subject Date: no date Size: 6583 URL: From himal.trikha at UNIVIE.AC.AT Mon Dec 26 11:06:20 2011 From: himal.trikha at UNIVIE.AC.AT (Himal Trikha) Date: Mon, 26 Dec 11 12:06:20 +0100 Subject: Delhi lodging Message-ID: <161227094831.23782.6272471460586594013.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear list members, following the recent "London lodging"-thread in the forum I wonder if someone could recommend a fairly decent accomodation with reasonable prices in Delhi. I heard of two: YWCA Blue triangle Ashoka Rd, Connaught Place, Delhi 110001 Ph: (+91-11) 23360133 Email: btfh at ywcaofdelhi.org www.ywcaofdelhi.org YWCA International Guest House 10,International Guest House, Parliament Street, Connaught Place, Delhi, 110001 Ph: (+91-11) 23361561, 23361662 Email: ywcaindigh at vsnl.net www.ywcaindia.org Both of them are currently not available. Thank you very much and happy holidays, Himal Trikha Vienna, Austria From tcoleman at COLORADOCOLLEGE.EDU Mon Dec 26 19:16:21 2011 From: tcoleman at COLORADOCOLLEGE.EDU (Tracy Coleman) Date: Mon, 26 Dec 11 19:16:21 +0000 Subject: Delhi lodging In-Reply-To: <4EF8552C.9090208@univie.ac.at> Message-ID: <161227094833.23782.17812989015291536861.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> A list I compiled in the summer: World Buddhist Centre Mr. Rev. Gyomyo Nakamura D - 137, East of Kailash New Delhi, Delhi - 110 001, India Email : wbc_delhi at yahoo.com , namgyal3 at rediffmail.com Telephone : +(91)-(11)-46504821/ 26227453/ 26424015 Mobile : +(91)-9811062211/ 9868222041 Godwin Hotels Paharganj http://www.godwinhotels.com/ Hotel Star Plaza 5158, Main Bazar | Pahar Ganj New Delhi 110055, India AIIS Guest House C-133 Defence Colony Colonels Retreat Defence Colony http://www.colonelsretreat.com/ Lutyens Bungalow South Central http://www.lutyensbungalow.co.in/ Aashiyan B & B South -- Near Haus Khaz http://www.aashiyanbnb.com/ La Sagrita Tourist Home Sundar Nagar http://www.lasagrita.com (Under renovations in July 2011) Ahuja's B & B M-89, Greater Kailash-I, New Delhi ? 110 048. ________________________________________ From: Indology [INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk] on behalf of Himal Trikha [himal.trikha at UNIVIE.AC.AT] Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 4:06 AM To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk Subject: [INDOLOGY] Delhi lodging Dear list members, following the recent "London lodging"-thread in the forum I wonder if someone could recommend a fairly decent accomodation with reasonable prices in Delhi. I heard of two: YWCA Blue triangle Ashoka Rd, Connaught Place, Delhi 110001 Ph: (+91-11) 23360133 Email: btfh at ywcaofdelhi.org www.ywcaofdelhi.org YWCA International Guest House 10,International Guest House, Parliament Street, Connaught Place, Delhi, 110001 Ph: (+91-11) 23361561, 23361662 Email: ywcaindigh at vsnl.net www.ywcaindia.org Both of them are currently not available. Thank you very much and happy holidays, Himal Trikha Vienna, Austria From jkirk at SPRO.NET Tue Dec 27 15:48:58 2011 From: jkirk at SPRO.NET (Jo) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 11 08:48:58 -0700 Subject: FW: [INDOLOGY] Delhi lodging Message-ID: <161227094838.23782.13572266699541568352.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> About the India International Centre: http://www.iicdelhi.nic.in/?q=node/260, membership is required. About that, see http://www.iicdelhi.nic.in/?q=node/101 . Joanna K. --------------------------------- On Behalf Of Himal Trikha Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 3:21 AM Thank you very much; also for the many responses I got off list. For the sake of the future inexperienced Delhi traveler I sum up recommendations I got off list below. Thanks again, Himal --- - http://www.jukaso.com/location.htm - http://www.sriaurobindoashram.net/visitors - India International Centre: http://www.iicdelhi.nic.in/?q=node/260 Guest houses of academic institutions, booking dependent on contacts: - Delhi University, guest quarters of the Institute for Economic Growth - Jawaharlal Nehru University, Aravali Guest House - SIT Study Abroad India - American Institute of Indian Studies --- Am 26.12.2011 20:16, schrieb Tracy Coleman: > A list I compiled in the summer: > > World Buddhist Centre > Mr. Rev. Gyomyo Nakamura > D - 137, East of Kailash > New Delhi, Delhi - 110 001, India > Email : wbc_delhi at yahoo.com , namgyal3 at rediffmail.com Telephone : > +(91)-(11)-46504821/ 26227453/ 26424015 Mobile : +(91)-9811062211/ > 9868222041 > > Godwin Hotels > Paharganj > http://www.godwinhotels.com/ > > Hotel Star Plaza > 5158, Main Bazar | Pahar Ganj > New Delhi 110055, India > > AIIS Guest House > C-133 > Defence Colony > > Colonels Retreat > Defence Colony > http://www.colonelsretreat.com/ > > Lutyens Bungalow > South Central > http://www.lutyensbungalow.co.in/ > > Aashiyan B& B > South -- Near Haus Khaz > http://www.aashiyanbnb.com/ > > La Sagrita Tourist Home > Sundar Nagar > http://www.lasagrita.com > (Under renovations in July 2011) > > Ahuja's B& B > M-89, Greater Kailash-I, > New Delhi - 110 048. > ________________________________________ > From: Indology [INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk] on behalf of Himal Trikha > [himal.trikha at UNIVIE.AC.AT] > Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 4:06 AM > To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk > Subject: [INDOLOGY] Delhi lodging > > Dear list members, > > following the recent "London lodging"-thread in the forum I wonder if > someone could recommend a fairly decent accomodation with reasonable > prices in Delhi. > > I heard of two: > > YWCA Blue triangle > Ashoka Rd, Connaught Place, Delhi 110001 > Ph: (+91-11) 23360133 > Email: btfh at ywcaofdelhi.org > www.ywcaofdelhi.org > > YWCA International Guest House > 10,International Guest House, Parliament Street, Connaught Place, > Delhi, > 110001 > Ph: (+91-11) 23361561, 23361662 > Email: ywcaindigh at vsnl.net > www.ywcaindia.org > > Both of them are currently not available. > > Thank you very much and happy holidays, > > Himal Trikha > Vienna, Austria -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Gyomyo Nakamura > D - 137, East of Kailash > New Delhi, Delhi - 110 001, India > Email : wbc_delhi at yahoo.com , namgyal3 at rediffmail.com > Telephone : +(91)-(11)-46504821/ 26227453/ 26424015 > Mobile : +(91)-9811062211/ 9868222041 > > Godwin Hotels > Paharganj > http://www.godwinhotels.com/ > > Hotel Star Plaza > 5158, Main Bazar | Pahar Ganj > New Delhi 110055, India > > AIIS Guest House > C-133 > Defence Colony > > Colonels Retreat > Defence Colony > http://www.colonelsretreat.com/ > > Lutyens Bungalow > South Central > http://www.lutyensbungalow.co.in/ > > Aashiyan B& B > South -- Near Haus Khaz > http://www.aashiyanbnb.com/ > > La Sagrita Tourist Home > Sundar Nagar > http://www.lasagrita.com > (Under renovations in July 2011) > > Ahuja's B& B > M-89, Greater Kailash-I, > New Delhi ? 110 048. > ________________________________________ > From: Indology [INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk] on behalf of Himal Trikha [himal.trikha at UNIVIE.AC.AT] > Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 4:06 AM > To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk > Subject: [INDOLOGY] Delhi lodging > > Dear list members, > > following the recent "London lodging"-thread in the forum I wonder if > someone could recommend a fairly decent accomodation with reasonable > prices in Delhi. > > I heard of two: > > YWCA Blue triangle > Ashoka Rd, Connaught Place, Delhi 110001 > Ph: (+91-11) 23360133 > Email: btfh at ywcaofdelhi.org > www.ywcaofdelhi.org > > YWCA International Guest House > 10,International Guest House, Parliament Street, Connaught Place, Delhi, > 110001 > Ph: (+91-11) 23361561, 23361662 > Email: ywcaindigh at vsnl.net > www.ywcaindia.org > > Both of them are currently not available. > > Thank you very much and happy holidays, > > Himal Trikha > Vienna, Austria From hellwig7 at GMX.DE Wed Dec 28 19:05:27 2011 From: hellwig7 at GMX.DE (Oliver Hellwig) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 11 19:05:27 +0000 Subject: Linguistic software SanskritTagger Message-ID: <161227094840.23782.15654331506375421205.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear list, as announced a few days ago, the linguistic program SanskritTagger is now available as freeware at http://www.indsenz.com/int/index.php?content=sanskrit_tagger_download SanskritTagger has been used to build the Digital Corpus of Sanskrit. Please refer to http://www.indsenz.com/int/index.php?content=sanskrit_tagger for a very short introduction into the (technical) background of the program and for some links to papers describing it. Some additional remarks: * The download consists of two parts: the program itself and the database. Although the database is zipped, it is still quite large (~250 MB), so you should download it over a fast internet connection. * Some less important parts of the user interface and of the help file are still in German. These parts will be translated into English in the next releases of the program. * If you have questions about how to use the program or some of its functions, you may mail me, or post them in the discussion forum found at http://www.indsenz.com/int/index.php?content=messageboard * Finally, to answer one of the most frequently asked questions right here: SanskritTaggger is built for Windows, and the program relies quite heavily on Windows APIs. I do not know whether it is possible to run the program on another operation system. Hope it helps to promote the computational processing of Sanskrit! Best regards, Oliver Hellwig From utkragh at HUM.KU.DK Wed Dec 28 23:10:41 2011 From: utkragh at HUM.KU.DK (Ulrich T. Kragh) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 11 00:10:41 +0100 Subject: request for Russian article Message-ID: <161227094842.23782.12287244166610255539.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear Indology list, I would like to obtain a PDF or photocopy of an article published in a Russian journal that is not available at my local library. Would anyone with access to the journal be willing to help me? The article in question is the following: K.M. Bogdanov, "????????? ????? ?? ????-???? (????????? ?.?. ???????)" in ????????? ????????? ??????? vol. 2.13, 2010, pp. 263-271, published by the Institute of Oriental Manuscripts, RAS. 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URL: From Marcus.Schmuecker at OEAW.AC.AT Mon Dec 5 16:11:35 2011 From: Marcus.Schmuecker at OEAW.AC.AT (=?utf-8?Q?Schm=C3=BCcker=2C_Marcus?=) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 11 17:11:35 +0100 Subject: De Nobili Research Library Prize 2012 Message-ID: <161227094674.23782.8920244679513069768.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> To whom it may concern (and please excuse, if it was already done). Announcing the ?De Nobili Research Library Prize? for 2012 The association ?De Nobili Research Library ? Association for Indology and the Study of Religion?, Vienna, aims to promote research on Indian religions, especially from the point of view of the mutual encounter between Christian spirituality as well as Christianity and Western thought in general, and the various manifestations of Indian religiosity. To further this aim, the Association disseminates the results of such research through the organisation of symposia and public lectures, and especially through its two publication series (see http://www.istb.univie.ac.at/cgi-bin/sdn/sdn.cgi). This year, the Association decided to promote its aims in still another way. It herewith announces, for the first time, an essay competition. Stu?dents, young researchers and others interested in the Christian encounter with Indian religions are cordially invited to submit an essay on the topic ?Dimensions of the Christian Encounter with the Religions of India: Aims, Possibilities, Ramifications?. The previously unpublished essays may be written in English or German, and should amount to approximately 18,000 words. A prize committee consisting of members of the Association and an external referee will evaluate the submitted essays in a double-blind review process. The best essay will be awarded with the ?De Nobili Research Library Prize? for 2012; the prize money amounts to ? 2,500. The prize may be shared by two winners. Essays should be formatted in 12 pt, with 1.5 line spacing, and submitted in PDF-format until May 20, 2012, the 407th anniversary of Roberto de Nobili?s arrival in India, to the Deputy Secretary of the Association, Dr. Marcus Schm?cker, at Marcus.Schmuecker at oeaw.ac.at. With best regards, Karin Preisendanz, Chairperson of the Association