Asoka: Roads and Animals

[Dominik Wujastyk]

Ah yes.

And Slavonic?  Polish, Latvian zupa, Russian, Ukrainian суп,
<https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTIzNzI2MTY5>Lithuanian (interestingly)
sriuba?

Dominik



On 18 August 2011 02:41, Hans Henrich Hock <hhhock at illinois.edu> wrote:

> Dear Joanna,
>
> Skt. sūpa : Engl. soup must be a chance similarity. The English word either
> directly, or through reborrowing from French (which got it from some other
> Germanic dialect), goes back to Germanic sources. Its relatives are said to
> include Engl. (to) sup and Germ. saufen 'drink (of/like an animal)'. If
> there were a direct relationship, either English would have to have souf, or
> the Sanskrit word would have to be sūba (that's because of the changes
> accounted for by Grimm's Law, which separate Germanic from the other
> Indo-European languages).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hans Henrich
>
>
> On 17 Aug 2011, at 19:04, Jo wrote:
>
> Dear Patrick—****
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> Thanks! Does this word relate to our term ‘soup’? I would agree with a
> suggestion that this covers a broad selection of dishes—sort of like what we
> find in recipe books today:  i.e., from a simple broth to stews or ragouts,
> wet or dry. It would be most informative if the pākaśāstra literaturesays
> more.****
> ** **
> Cheers,****
> Joanna****
> ** **
> ****
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>  *From:* Patrick Olivelle [mailto:jpo at uts.cc.utexas.edu]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 17, 2011 2:53 PM
> *To:* Jo
> *Cc:* INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk
> *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] Asoka: Roads and Animals****
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> The term is sūpa -- the expression sūpātthāya (Sk. sūpārthāya) -- for the
> sake of sūpa (probably more like stew, broth).****
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> PO****
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> On Aug 17, 2011, at 2:34 PM, Jo wrote:****
>
>
> ****
>  ****
> Dear List,****
>  ****
> Since I’m dying of curiosity, if I may ask, can someone tell me what is
> the edict’s term for ‘curry’?****
>  ****
> Anthropologists are also skeptical of such number codes and have published
> about them-- but sorry, no references come to mind.****
>  ****
> Thanks****
> Joanna****
>  ****
>   ****
>  ****
> " Obliquely, the Ist Rock Edict: "Formerly in the kitchen of king
> Devanampriya Priyadarśin many hundred thousands of animals (bahūni****
> prāṇasatasahāsrani) were killed daily for the sake of curry"****
> [Hultzsch, 1925, p. 2]."****
>  ****
> Sounds to me that one ought to apply the rule David Henige gives for
> premodern figures above ten thousand in his Numbers from Nowhere: The
> American Indian Contact Population Debate:* *just as a beginning, knock
> off the last digit.  Henige deals with evidence from a lot of other places
> besides the Americas, though as best I recall not South Asia. ****
>  ****
>  ****
> Allen****
>  ****
> Allen W. Thrasher, Ph.D.****
> Asian Division, Library of Congress****
> Washington, DC 20540-4810****
> The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of the Library of
> Congress.****
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