From wujastyk at GMAIL.COM  Mon Aug  2 08:49:36 2010
From: wujastyk at GMAIL.COM (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 10 10:49:36 +0200
Subject: MS digitization in Tripunithura
Message-ID: <161227090071.23782.16169017751638368837.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

http://expressbuzz.com/cities/kochi/digitising-medieval-manuscripts/194643.html




From nlpdept at YAHOO.CO.IN  Mon Aug  2 17:58:07 2010
From: nlpdept at YAHOO.CO.IN (Srinivasa Varakhedi)
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 10 23:28:07 +0530
Subject: MS digitization in Tripunithura
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinTx1ptm711nK97gAhY58YF1yMxPQZ-u4AYfpEG@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <161227090074.23782.15551665666332077906.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Administrator,
?
Nowadays i am not using this email id. Kindly replace this with id - shrivara at gmail.com .
?
warm regards,
shri.varakhedi

--- On Mon, 2/8/10, Dominik Wujastyk <wujastyk at GMAIL.COM> wrote:


From: Dominik Wujastyk <wujastyk at GMAIL.COM>
Subject: [INDOLOGY] MS digitization in Tripunithura
To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk
Date: Monday, 2 August, 2010, 2:19 PM


http://expressbuzz.com/cities/kochi/digitising-medieval-manuscripts/194643.html







From kauzeya at GMAIL.COM  Tue Aug  3 07:13:46 2010
From: kauzeya at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Silk)
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 10 09:13:46 +0200
Subject: New Tibetan resource
Message-ID: <161227090077.23782.10991153577367792022.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Colleagues,

This morning I received email about the following:

The Digital Preservation Society has released their Digital Tempangma
manuscript kangyur recently.

More information on this release is available in this website.

http://www.tibet-dps.org/

What they have digitzed is a Peking Kanjur and what appears to be the
so-called "Ulan Bator Manuscript of the *Kanjur* Rgyal-rtse Them-spangs-ma"
catalogued by G?za *Bethlenfalvy*.
The quality (one can download samples) is stunning--but the price is also
impressive, I'm afraid (note, in case you're thinking of ordering, that the
Yen price is somewhat cheaper than the dollar price, at the current exchange
rate).

Best, jonathan
-- 
J. Silk
Instituut Kern / Universiteit Leiden
Postbus 9515
2300 RA Leiden
Netherlands




From christophe.vielle at UCLOUVAIN.BE  Tue Aug  3 11:56:26 2010
From: christophe.vielle at UCLOUVAIN.BE (Christophe Vielle)
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 10 13:56:26 +0200
Subject: Fwd: Scholarships proposed by the French Institute of Pondicherry
Message-ID: <161227090080.23782.2208318750361907164.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 15:34:05 +0620
>From: IFP Info <ifpinfo at ifpindia.org>
>Subject: Bourses offertes par l?Institut 
>Fran?ais de Pondich?ry / Scholarships proposed 
>by the French Institute of Pondicherry
>
>
>Scholarships by the French Institute of Pondicherry
>
>Scholarships proposed by the French Institute of Pondicherry
>
>The French Institute of Pondicherry (IFP) offers 
>7 (seven) doctoral scholarships in the fields of 
>Ecology, Indology and Social Sciences.
>
>The scholarships are open to people of all 
>nationalities who wish to work on a topic that 
>is in relation with the research programmes 
>conducted at the IFP 
>(<http://www.ifpindia.org/-Research-.html>http://www.ifpindia.org/-Research-.html). 
>These scholarships are of different kinds:
>
>One (1) international scholarship (BI) of a 
>two-year duration (+1 year renewable), which is 
>addressed to doctoral students registered in a 
>university of a Northern1 country and who wish 
>to work at the IFP, which must be the main host 
>laboratory for the thesis. The monthly 
>scholarship is of 65,000 INR per month, with a 
>paid return ticket between the country of 
>registration and India (at the beginning and at 
>the end of the stay)2.
>Two (2) ? sandwich ? scholarships (BS) of a 
>two-year duration (+1 year renewable), which is 
>addressed to doctoral students registered in a 
>university of a Northern1 country or in an 
>Indian university, and who wish to work 
>alternately with the IFP and a second host 
>laboratory, situated in the North. The monthly 
>scholarship is of 25,000 INR during the stays in 
>India, and of 65,000 INR during the stays in the 
>North (maximum 18 months out of 36). The 
>scholarship will pay for a return ticket between 
>the country of registration and India for each 
>year of the thesis (3 return tickets in total)2.
>Four (4) local scholarships (BL) of a two-year 
>duration (+1 year renewable), which is addressed 
>to doctoral students registered in an Indian 
>university and who wish to work at the IFP, 
>which must be the main host laboratory for the 
>thesis. The monthly scholarship is of 25,000 
>INR2.
>[1]By Northern country, we mean one of the 38 
>countries classified among those having a ? very 
>high human development ? (HDI = 0,9) according 
>to the 2009 United Nations classification (see 
>the list in annexure or 
>http://hdr.undp.org/en/statistics/)
>
>[2]all scholarship holders will benefit from an 
>insurance for industrial accident during their 
>stays in India and an insurance for medical 
>repatriation for the stays abroad (BI and BS).
>
><http://www.ifpindia.org/ecrire/upload/recruitment/Bourses%20IFP_IFP%20Scholarships.doc>Click 
>here for more information.
>
>
>Bourses offertes par l?Institut Fran?ais de Pondich?ry
>
>L?Institut Fran?ais de Pondich?ry (IFP) offre 7 
>(sept) bourses d??tudes doctorales dans les 
>domaines de l?Ecologie, de l?Indologie et des 
>Sciences Sociales.
>
>Les bourses sont ouvertes aux personnes de toute 
>nationalit? souhaitant travailler sur un sujet 
>en relation avec les programmes de recherche de 
>l'IFP 
>(<http://www.ifpindia.org/-Research-.html>http://www.ifpindia.org/-Research-.html). 
>Ces bourses sont de plusieurs natures :
>
>Une (1) bourse internationale (BI) d?une dur?e 
>de deux (2) ans (+ 1 an renouvelable) qui 
>s'adresse ? des doctorants inscrits dans une 
>universit? d'un pays du Nord1 et souhaitant 
>travailler ? l'IFP qui sera obligatoirement le 
>laboratoire principal d'accueil de la th?se. Le 
>montant de la bourse est de 65,000 INR mensuels 
>avec prise en charge d'un voyage aller-retour 
>entre le pays d'inscription et l'Inde (en d?but 
>et fin de s?jour)2.
>Deux (2) bourses ? sandwich ? (BS) d?une dur?e 
>de deux (2) ans (+ 1 an renouvelable) qui 
>s'adressent ? des doctorants inscrits dans une 
>universit? d'un pays du Nord1 ou dans une 
>universit? indienne et souhaitant travailler en 
>alternance entre l'IFP et un second laboratoire 
>d'accueil situ? au Nord. Le montant de la bourse 
>est de 25,000 INR mensuels pour les p?riodes 
>pass?es en Inde et de 65,000 INR mensuels pour 
>les p?riodes pass?es au Nord (maximum 18 mois 
>sur 36). La bourse prend en charge un voyage 
>aller-retour entre le pays d'inscription et 
>l'Inde pour chaque ann?e de th?se (3 voyages AR 
>au total)2.
>Quatre (4) bourses locales (BL) d?une dur?e de 
>deux (2) ans (+ 1 an renouvelable) qui 
>s'adressent ? des doctorants inscrits dans une 
>universit? indienne et souhaitant travailler ? 
>l'IFP qui sera obligatoirement le laboratoire 
>principal d'accueil de la th?se. Le montant de 
>la bourse est de 25,000 INR mensuels2.
>[1]On entend par pays du Nord l'un des 38 pays 
>class?s parmi ceux poss?dant un "very high human 
>development" (HDI = 0,9) selon la classification 
>des Nations Unies 2009 (voir liste en annexe ou 
>http://hdr.undp.org/en/statistics/).
>
>[2]Tous les boursiers b?n?ficieront d'une 
>assurance accidents professionnels lors de leurs 
>s?jours en Inde et d'une assurance rapatriement 
>sanitaire pour les s?jours ? l'?tranger (BI et 
>BS).
>
><http://www.ifpindia.org/ecrire/upload/recruitment/Bourses%20IFP_IFP%20Scholarships.doc>Cliquer 
>ici pour plus d'informations.
>


>
>Anand Pakiam
>Communications In-Charge
>French Institute of Pondicherry
>11, St. Louis Street, P.B. 33, Pondicherry-605 001, INDIA
>Phone: (91)-413-2334168. Fax:(91)-413-2339534
>E-mail:<mailto:ifpcom at ifpindia.org>ifpcom at ifpindia.org


-- 




From wujastyk at GMAIL.COM  Tue Aug  3 12:01:53 2010
From: wujastyk at GMAIL.COM (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 10 14:01:53 +0200
Subject: Fwd: Bourses offertes par              l=?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=99Institut_Fran=C3=A7ais_de__Pondich=C3=A9ry?=              / Scholarships proposed by the French Institute  of Pondicherry
In-Reply-To: <0584d58db924b61b42bd3970a9aa0f35@www.ifpindia.org>
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: IFP Info <ifpinfo at ifpindia.org>
Date: 3 August 2010 11:14
Subject: Bourses offertes par l?Institut Fran?ais de Pondich?ry /
Scholarships proposed by the French Institute of Pondicherry



 Scholarships by the French Institute of Pondicherry

Bourses offertes par l?Institut Fran?ais de Pondich?ry

L?Institut Fran?ais de Pondich?ry (IFP) offre 7 (sept) bourses d??tudes
doctorales dans les domaines de l?Ecologie, de l?Indologie et des Sciences
Sociales.

Les bourses sont ouvertes aux personnes de toute nationalit? souhaitant
travailler sur un sujet en relation avec les programmes de recherche de
l'IFP (http://www.ifpindia.org/-Research-.html). Ces bourses sont de
plusieurs natures :

   - Une (1) bourse internationale (BI) d?une dur?e de deux (2) ans (+ 1 an
   renouvelable) qui s'adresse ? des doctorants inscrits dans une universit?
   d'un pays du Nord1 et souhaitant travailler ? l'IFP qui sera
   obligatoirement le laboratoire principal d'accueil de la th?se. Le montant
   de la bourse est de 65,000 INR mensuels avec prise en charge d'un voyage
   aller-retour entre le pays d'inscription et l'Inde (en d?but et fin de
   s?jour)2.
   - Deux (2) bourses ? sandwich ? (BS) d?une dur?e de deux (2) ans (+ 1 an
   renouvelable) qui s'adressent ? des doctorants inscrits dans une universit?
   d'un pays du Nord1 ou dans une universit? indienne et souhaitant
   travailler en alternance entre l'IFP et un second laboratoire d'accueil
   situ? au Nord. Le montant de la bourse est de 25,000 INR mensuels pour les
   p?riodes pass?es en Inde et de 65,000 INR mensuels pour les p?riodes pass?es
   au Nord (maximum 18 mois sur 36). La bourse prend en charge un voyage
   aller-retour entre le pays d'inscription et l'Inde pour chaque ann?e de
   th?se (3 voyages AR au total)2.
   - Quatre (4) bourses locales (BL) d?une dur?e de deux (2) ans (+ 1 an
   renouvelable) qui s'adressent ? des doctorants inscrits dans une universit?
   indienne et souhaitant travailler ? l'IFP qui sera obligatoirement le
   laboratoire principal d'accueil de la th?se. Le montant de la bourse est de
   25,000 INR mensuels2.

[1]On entend par pays du Nord l'un des 38 pays class?s parmi ceux poss?dant
un "very high human development" (HDI = 0,9) selon la classification des
Nations Unies 2009 (voir liste en annexe ou
http://hdr.undp.org/en/statistics/).

[2]Tous les boursiers b?n?ficieront d'une assurance accidents professionnels
lors de leurs s?jours en Inde et d'une assurance rapatriement sanitaire pour
les s?jours ? l'?tranger (BI et BS).

Cliquer ici pour plus
d'informations.<http://www.ifpindia.org/ecrire/upload/recruitment/Bourses%20IFP_IFP%20Scholarships.doc>
------------------------------

Scholarships proposed by the French Institute of Pondicherry

The French Institute of Pondicherry (IFP) offers 7 (seven) doctoral
scholarships in the fields of Ecology, Indology and Social Sciences.

The scholarships are open to people of all nationalities who wish to work on
a topic that is in relation with the research programmes conducted at the
IFP (http://www.ifpindia.org/-Research-.html). These scholarships are of
different kinds:

   - One (1) international scholarship (BI) of a two-year duration (+1 year
   renewable), which is addressed to doctoral students registered in a
   university of a Northern1 country and who wish to work at the IFP, which
   must be the main host laboratory for the thesis. The monthly scholarship is
   of 65,000 INR per month, with a paid return ticket between the country of
   registration and India (at the beginning and at the end of the stay)2.
   - Two (2) ? sandwich ? scholarships (BS) of a two-year duration (+1 year
   renewable), which is addressed to doctoral students registered in a
   university of a Northern1 country or in an Indian university, and who
   wish to work alternately with the IFP and a second host laboratory, situated
   in the North. The monthly scholarship is of 25,000 INR during the stays in
   India, and of 65,000 INR during the stays in the North (maximum 18 months
   out of 36). The scholarship will pay for a return ticket between the country
   of registration and India for each year of the thesis (3 return tickets in
   total)2.
   - Four (4) local scholarships (BL) of a two-year duration (+1 year
   renewable), which is addressed to doctoral students registered in an Indian
   university and who wish to work at the IFP, which must be the main host
   laboratory for the thesis. The monthly scholarship is of 25,000 INR2.

[1]By Northern country, we mean one of the 38 countries classified among
those having a ? very high human development ? (HDI = 0,9) according to the
2009 United Nations classification (see the list in annexure or
http://hdr.undp.org/en/statistics/)

[2]all scholarship holders will benefit from an insurance for industrial
accident during their stays in India and an insurance for medical
repatriation for the stays abroad (BI and BS).

Click here for more
information.<http://www.ifpindia.org/ecrire/upload/recruitment/Bourses%20IFP_IFP%20Scholarships.doc>

Anand Pakiam
Communications In-Charge
French Institute of Pondicherry
11, St. Louis Street, P.B. 33, Pondicherry-605 001, INDIA
Phone: (91)-413-2334168. Fax:(91)-413-2339534
E-mail:ifpcom at ifpindia.org




From kauzeya at GMAIL.COM  Tue Aug  3 14:03:54 2010
From: kauzeya at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Silk)
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 10 16:03:54 +0200
Subject: New publications available online from Japan
Message-ID: <161227090087.23782.10655456800217988905.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Prof Seishi Karashima has asked me to inform the list of the following:

Some of our publications, incl. my recent glossary, are downloadable from
the following sites:

http://iriab.soka.ac.jp/orc/Publications/BPPB/index_BPPB.html

http://iriab.soka.ac.jp/orc/Publications/ARIRIAB/index_ARIRIAB.html



-- 
J. Silk
Instituut Kern / Universiteit Leiden
Postbus 9515
2300 RA Leiden
Netherlands




From d.wujastyk at UCL.AC.UK  Tue Aug  3 18:47:00 2010
From: d.wujastyk at UCL.AC.UK (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 10 19:47:00 +0100
Subject: [Devnag-general] Xindy modules for Hindi and Marathi (fwd)
Message-ID: <161227090090.23782.15416372580366510550.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

For those of you interested in indexing Indian languages,...

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 20:46:51 +0200
From: Zdenek Wagner <zdenek.wagner at gmail.com>
Reply-To: General mailing list for Devnag project
    <devnag-general at lists.sarovar.org>
To: general xindy announcements and discussions
    <xindy-discuss at lists.sourceforge.net>,
     General mailing list for Devnag project <devnag-general at lists.sarovar.org>


Hi all,
I have updated the modules for Hindi and Marathi. Since the previous
release a few small bugs were found and fixed. Marathi rules now exist
also in transliteration and a module with merge rules for nuktas was
developed. Documentation was updated, the transliteration script is
documented via POD. Feedback still required, mainly from a Marathi
native speaker. Addition of Nepali support requires help of a Nepali
native speaker.

In order to be compatible with xindy it was decided to license the
package under GLP V2+.

The URL of the package is http://icebearsoft.euweb.cz/xindy-devanagari/

-- 
Zden?k Wagner
http://hroch486.icpf.cas.cz/wagner/
http://icebearsoft.euweb.cz

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From wujastyk at GMAIL.COM  Wed Aug  4 11:11:10 2010
From: wujastyk at GMAIL.COM (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 10 13:11:10 +0200
Subject: Golden Dictionary
Message-ID: <161227090093.23782.18019662124986731374.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Manuel Batsching's very useful blog post,

   -
   http://flammschild.blog.uni-heidelberg.de/2010/07/28/the-golden-dictionary/

draws attention to the Golden Dictionary <http://goldendict.org/> software
that runs on Windows and Linux (so far).  Following Batsching's notes, I
installed GD easily, and found it to be every bit as useful and easy to use
as he suggests.  It is easily the best (= easiest to used and technically
most superior) desktop dictionary program I have used.  Batsching's
ready-made links to Apte's and Macdonell's dictionaries (from
DSAL<http://dsal.uchicago.edu>)
makes it trivially easy to look up words in those sources.  I have added a
comment on how to make Golden Dictionary also a front-end for SARIT (
http://sarit.indology.info), so that word-searches in Golden Dictionary can
return contextualized results from searching the entire Sanskrit text
library in SARIT (large amounts of smrti, artha, purana, ayurveda, and
Buddhist tantra text).

Apologies for duplication for those of you who already follow the
Flammschild blog, but I thought this important enough to draw to the
attention of the INDOLOGY readers at large.

Best,
Dominik Wujastyk

--
Institut f?r S?dasien-, Tibet- und Buddhismuskunde
Universit?t Wien
Spitalgasse 2-4, Hof 2, Eingang 2.1
A-1090 Vienna
Austria




From athr at LOC.GOV  Thu Aug  5 23:16:34 2010
From: athr at LOC.GOV (Thrasher, Allen)
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 10 19:16:34 -0400
Subject: Albrecht Weber bust - not owned by Library of Congress
Message-ID: <161227090096.23782.11480898221027477416.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Back on 08/07/09 (Indology message 032149, "2 requests re images of Albrecht Weber") I requested as many images of Albrecht Weber as possible to help in evaluating a bust in the possession of the Rare Book and Special Collections division that might have been the bust of Albrecht Weber offered along with his library (which LOC purchased) in the printed catalog thereof. The catalog record is at < http://lccn.loc.gov/25011896 >. Checking this out got put on the back burner but today I was taken into the rare book stacks and looked at the bust and it was unquestionably of some other middle-aged dignitary than Weber.  The features were quite different, and the subject had short hair and sideburns but no moustache, whereas Weber, in images both from his early maturity and his old age had longish hair in the back, no sideburns, and a moustache.  Also, and decisively, it was of marble and signed "J. Q. A. Ward" (John Quincy Adams Ward, a prominent American sculptor of the nineteenth century), whereas the Weber bust bust was of plaster and done by Prof. Johann Uphues. (The Katalog refers to the sculptor as "Prof. Joh. Uphues" although it appears (e.g. < http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Uphues > that he mostly went by "Joseph," although Johann was his second given name, full form Joseph Johann Ludwig Uphues.)



The Library's uncataloged collections and its inventory of other stuff (e.g. unused desks and miscellaneous impedimenta) have been gone gone through repeatedly for multiple purposes in the last couple of decades, so it is quite improbable a piece of sculpture would have gone unnoticed. It is most likely therefore that the bust never came to Washington.


I suspect that, as I speculated in the earlier posting, Frau Weber retained the bust having avoided a legal obligation to include it with the rest of the library.  Or perhaps the Library declined the gift.  This may have something to do with the hope expressed on the cover of the Katalog that the collection be kept together under the name "Albrecht-Weber Bibliothek," which the Library did not do, although it stamped "Weber collection" and the Katalog number in each item, and this information is usually included in the old public card catalog and/or the online record.



I notice from a Google Images search that Uphues had a number of truly major commissions for public monuments.  Does his doing a portrait of Weber indicate how distinguished Weber was thought to be, or that Weber was well enough remunerated to commission a portrait from a major sculptor?  If the former, may there once have been a bronze version in the University or some other institution?



This might be of interest to some and so I'm putting it on the record.





Allen

Allen W. Thrasher, Ph.D.
Senior Reference Librarian and Team Coordinator
South Asia Team
Asian Division
Library of Congress
Washington, DC 20540-4810
USA
tel. 202-707-3732
fax 202-707-1724




From vjroebuck at BTINTERNET.COM  Fri Aug  6 05:53:38 2010
From: vjroebuck at BTINTERNET.COM (Valerie J Roebuck)
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 10 06:53:38 +0100
Subject: Dhammapada Day
Message-ID: <161227090099.23782.12328709556483060485.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Colleagues

This is to let you know that the Centre for the History of Religion in Asia, Cardiff University, is hosting a Dhammapada Day on 14 September, as a launch event for my new translation. If you would like a programme, please contact me off-list.

The book is to be published on 26 August: it's on the Penguin website at <http://www.penguinclassics.co.uk/nf/Book/BookDisplay/0,,9780140449419,00.html?The_Dhammapada_Anonymous>

Valerie J Roebuck

(With apologies for cross-posting)




From wujastyk at GMAIL.COM  Fri Aug  6 09:08:37 2010
From: wujastyk at GMAIL.COM (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 10 11:08:37 +0200
Subject: The Sampurnanand Sanskrit University is falling down, apparently
Message-ID: <161227090102.23782.18346030884480878241.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/varanasi/200-yr-old-building-fated-to-die/articleshow/6262702.cms




From dbhattacharya200498 at YAHOO.COM  Fri Aug  6 13:32:28 2010
From: dbhattacharya200498 at YAHOO.COM (Dipak Bhattacharya)
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 10 19:02:28 +0530
Subject: The Sampurnanand Sanskrit University is falling down,              apparently
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimc=kfeoE_xF45AwoSefQmXiCtm3KRv8KixEGwA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <161227090106.23782.16073983585402763341.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

I have lost?touch for quite some years. But?there was regular repair work in the seventies and eighties. The undesirable turn of events has to be brought to the notice of the UGC. 
DB



--- On Fri, 6/8/10, Dominik Wujastyk <wujastyk at GMAIL.COM> wrote:


From: Dominik Wujastyk <wujastyk at GMAIL.COM>
Subject: [INDOLOGY] The Sampurnanand Sanskrit University is falling down, apparently
To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk
Date: Friday, 6 August, 2010, 9:08 AM


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/varanasi/200-yr-old-building-fated-to-die/articleshow/6262702.cms







From h.arganisjuarez at YAHOO.COM.MX  Tue Aug 10 00:43:25 2010
From: h.arganisjuarez at YAHOO.COM.MX (Horacio Francisco Arganis Juarez)
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 10 17:43:25 -0700
Subject: Quest???
In-Reply-To: <33c94.1c20e40f.398b40b8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <161227090109.23782.1326365114620524789.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

 Honorable Colleagues:
Some of you could spend the quotations in the Jains books, where Krishna Vasudeva was listed as one of the Tirthakaras? Also if you have the  literal quotations of Lalitavitsara where Krishna also mentions, but in English please?
Regards.
Lic. M.A. Horacio Francisco Arganis Ju?rez
Catedr?tico Investigador de la Universidad
Internacional Euroamericana.
Departamento de Filosof?a y Religi?n Comparada.
Miembro del Instituto de Estudios Filos?ficos de Saltillo A. C.
www.uie.edu.es


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From peterfriedlander at YAHOO.COM.AU  Tue Aug 10 03:56:54 2010
From: peterfriedlander at YAHOO.COM.AU (Peter Friedlander)
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 10 20:56:54 -0700
Subject: Hiragana and Indic Scripts
Message-ID: <161227090112.23782.336290134177375774.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Colleagues,
any ideas on leads on Indic script connections with Japanese Hiragana/Katakana scripts?
Hiragana/Katakana starts a i u e o ka ki ku ke ko etc.
The organization of the Japanese sound system seems related to Indic systems, but Japanese histories of their scripts that I have seen are quite silent on the relationship between Siddham and Kana script systems that I have observed (my current notes on this at http://bodhgayanews.net/melbournehindi/?p=22).
I am sure that somebody must have written on this, any idea where?
regards

Peter Friedlander
----------------------------------------

Dr Peter
Friedlander

Senior Lecturer in
Hindi and Buddhist Studies

Asian Studies

School of Social
Sciences

La Trobe
University, VIC 3086

Phone: + 61 3 9479
1400

Email: p.friedlander at latrobe.edu.au




      




From vasubandhu at EARTHLINK.NET  Tue Aug 10 09:33:22 2010
From: vasubandhu at EARTHLINK.NET (Dan Lusthaus)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 10 05:33:22 -0400
Subject: Hiragana and Indic Scripts
Message-ID: <161227090116.23782.11961916062295504403.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Peter,

As you've discovered the orgins of the kana scripts is still disputed and
unclear.

Early on, hiragana was considered a script only to be used by women; men
were expected to use kanji (Chinese characters). The idea that hiragana
primarily developed from a cursive form of Chinese characters is fairly
pervasive. See, for instance,

http://www.omniglot.com/writing/japanese_hiragana.htm
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiragana

And legend (along with many uncritical modern works) considers K?kai
(774?835), who established the Shingon (= tantra) school in Japan, to be
the creator of the katakana script. There is a poem, or set of gathas,
called "Iroha" in Japanese, that offer a summary of the teaching of
impermanence from the Nirvana Sutra; the poem employs the full set of
katakana, and this poem had been attributed to K?kai who was believed to
have devised it as a clever mneumonic, but more recent scholarship has
undermined that legend. See

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iroha
and
http://tinyurl.com/3xx74ko

Note that the order of the syllabary was not always in the current order,
and that the order of appearance in the Iroha was standard for many
centuries. Rearrangement to align it with Sanskrit order might have occurred
later as Japanese scholars developed an interest in linguistics and grammar
(under German via Dutch influence) and turned to Sanskrit prototypes (via
Chinese Buddhist translations) to set this out.

You are correct that Siddham script, not Devanagri, would have been familiar
to the Japanese. The Sanskrit script studied in China and then subsequently
the rest of E. Asia was primarily Siddham. By the time Devanagri was
developed, the transmission to China had been disrupted. K?kai spent some
time in China studying with translators (including Manichaeans), and,
because of the tantric interest in mantras and seed syllables, developed an
interest in siddham pronunciation and script (one still finds siddham used
in certain Japanese Buddhist cemeteries, etc.). That is probably why he
comes to be associated with the development of katakana.

One largely unexplored but potentially important source for both hiragana
and katakana is Chinese musical notation, especially as developed during the
Tang and Song dynasties. What started as Gongche notation ("?" g?ng and "?"
ch?) using Chinese characters to represent notes, developed into a cursive
form that has many evident overlaps with Japanese kana.

On Gongche, see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gongche_notation

For the more relevant musical notation, see

Rulan Chao Pian, _Song Dynasty Musical Sources and Their Interpretation_,
Harvard-Yenching, Harvard University Press, 1967, esp. the illustrations
following p. 42 and passim.

You may also find the following useful for tracking the history of East
Asian awareness of Sanskrit sounds and scripts:

Chaudhuri, Saroj Kumar, _Siddham in China and Japan_, a monograph published
through Victor Mair's Sino-Platonic Papers series. (No. 88, Dec. 1998).

Dan Lusthaus




From ph2046 at COLUMBIA.EDU  Tue Aug 10 12:47:14 2010
From: ph2046 at COLUMBIA.EDU (Paul G. Hackett)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 10 08:47:14 -0400
Subject: Sorting Paragraphs
In-Reply-To: <31672514.1281442907668.JavaMail.ngmail@webmail09.arcor-online.net>
Message-ID: <161227090122.23782.4552870419110832371.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Philipp,

   If you really need to preserve formatting, rather than writing a 
full RTF-compliant application, it might be easier to simply write a 
VBA macro with a simple bubble sort to run under Word to perform the 
same task.

Paul Hackett
Columbia University


At 2:21 PM +0200 8/10/10, Philipp Maas wrote:
>Dear Colleagues,
>
>I am currently preparing a glossary of Sanskrit terms in transliteration,
>for which I would like to use a software that sorts paragraphs automatically
>in a sequence according to the Sanskrit alphabet. I am working with a
>Unicode font and a Windows operating system. The software (share- or freeware
>preferred) should be RTF compatible in order to preserve the font formats of
>the original file.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>With many thanks in advance and best regards,
>
>Philipp Maas




From phmaas at ARCOR.DE  Tue Aug 10 12:21:47 2010
From: phmaas at ARCOR.DE (Philipp Maas)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 10 14:21:47 +0200
Subject: Sorting Paragraphs
Message-ID: <161227090119.23782.10084031536868170415.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Colleagues,

I am currently preparing a glossary of Sanskrit terms in transliteration,
for which I would like to use a software that sorts paragraphs automatically
in a sequence according to the Sanskrit alphabet. I am working with a
Unicode font and a Windows operating system. The software (share- or freeware
preferred) should be RTF compatible in order to preserve the font formats of
the original file.

Any suggestions?

With many thanks in advance and best regards,

Philipp Maas




From zydenbos at UNI-MUENCHEN.DE  Tue Aug 10 12:54:24 2010
From: zydenbos at UNI-MUENCHEN.DE (Robert Zydenbos)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 10 14:54:24 +0200
Subject: Hiragana and Indic Scripts
In-Reply-To: <191787.55693.qm@web65710.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <161227090126.23782.4407918755006292781.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Apart from what Dan Lusthaus has already mentioned about the  
established view on the origination of the kana scripts, one should  
note that Siddham is very 'Indian' in its structure: like all the  
Brahmi-derived scripts, Siddham is of the script type known as  
'abugida' (in which a basic syllabic sign is modified by means of  
secondary vowel signs to indicate that the vowel of the syllable is  
not 'a'), and the kana scripts are fundamentally different.

RZ

Op 10.08.2010, om 05:56 heeft Peter Friedlander het volgende geschreven:

> Dear Colleagues,
> any ideas on leads on Indic script connections with Japanese  
> Hiragana/Katakana scripts?
> Hiragana/Katakana starts a i u e o ka ki ku ke ko etc.
> The organization of the Japanese sound system seems related to Indic  
> systems, but Japanese histories of their scripts that I have seen  
> are quite silent on the relationship between Siddham and Kana script  
> systems that I have observed (my current notes on this at http://bodhgayanews.net/melbournehindi/?p=22) 
> .
> I am sure that somebody must have written on this, any idea where?
> regards
>
> Peter Friedlander


Prof. Dr. Robert J. Zydenbos
Department f?r Asienstudien - Institut f?r Indologie und Tibetologie
Universit?t M?nchen
Deutschland
Tel. (+49-89-) 2180-5782
Fax  (+49-89-) 2180-5827
Web  http://www.lrz-muenchen.de/~zydenbos




From zydenbos at UNI-MUENCHEN.DE  Tue Aug 10 13:02:04 2010
From: zydenbos at UNI-MUENCHEN.DE (Robert Zydenbos)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 10 15:02:04 +0200
Subject: Quest???
In-Reply-To: <617906.21462.qm@web45601.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <161227090128.23782.14508069548667844157.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Jaina literature (as far as I have dealt with it) sees K???a not  
as a T?rtha?kara, but as a cousin of Nemin?tha , the 22nd  
T?rtha?kara. See, for instance, B.N. Sumitra Bai and R.J. Zydenbos,  
"The Jaina Mah?bh?rata", in Arvind Sharma (ed.), Essays on the  
Mah?bh?rata. Leiden: E.J. Brill, 1991; pp. 251-273.

RZ

Op 10.08.2010, om 02:43 heeft Horacio Francisco Arganis Juarez het  
volgende geschreven:

> Honorable Colleagues:
> Some of you could spend the quotations in the Jains books, where  
> Krishna Vasudeva was listed as one of the Tirthakaras? Also if you  
> have the  literal quotations of Lalitavitsara where Krishna also  
> mentions, but in English please?
> Regards.
> Lic. M.A. Horacio Francisco Arganis Ju?rez
> Catedr?tico Investigador de la Universidad
> Internacional Euroamericana.
> Departamento de Filosof?a y Religi?n Comparada.
> Miembro del Instituto de Estudios Filos?ficos de Saltillo A. C.
> www.uie.edu.es


Prof. Dr. Robert J. Zydenbos
Department f?r Asienstudien - Institut f?r Indologie und Tibetologie
Universit?t M?nchen
Deutschland
Tel. (+49-89-) 2180-5782
Fax  (+49-89-) 2180-5827
Web  http://www.lrz-muenchen.de/~zydenbos




From christophe.vielle at UCLOUVAIN.BE  Tue Aug 10 13:21:40 2010
From: christophe.vielle at UCLOUVAIN.BE (Christophe Vielle)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 10 15:21:40 +0200
Subject: Jaina Krishna Quest
In-Reply-To: <617906.21462.qm@web45601.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <161227090131.23782.11821642363878730739.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

See the textual references in
Eva De Clercq, "The Jaina Hariva.m/sa and 
Mahaabhaarata Tradition: a Preliminary Study", 
pp. 399-421,
and Andr? Couture, "The Reception of K.r.s.na's 
Childhood in Three Jain Sanskrit Texts", pp. 
423-445,
in Petteri Koskikallio ed. 2009, Parallels and 
Comparisons: Proceedings of the Fourth Dubrovnik 
International Conference on the Sanskrit Epics 
and Puraa.nas, September 2005, Zagreb: Croation 
Academy of Science and Arts (gen. ed. Mislav 
Jezic)

>  Honorable Colleagues:
>Some of you could spend the quotations in the 
>Jains books, where Krishna Vasudeva was listed 
>as one of the Tirthakaras? Also if you have the 
>literal quotations of Lalitavitsara where 
>Krishna also mentions, but in English please?
>Regards.
>Lic. M.A. Horacio Francisco Arganis Ju?rez
>Catedr?tico Investigador de la Universidad
>Internacional Euroamericana.
>Departamento de Filosof?a y Religi?n Comparada.
>Miembro del Instituto de Estudios Filos?ficos de Saltillo A. C.
>www.uie.edu.es
>

-- 
http://www.uclouvain.be/christophe.vielle
http://belgianindology.blogs.lalibre.be/




From kellner at ASIA-EUROPE.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE  Tue Aug 10 13:24:55 2010
From: kellner at ASIA-EUROPE.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (Kellner, Birgit)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 10 15:24:55 +0200
Subject: AW: [INDOLOGY] Sorting Paragraphs
In-Reply-To: <a06210200c886f91401f2@[192.168.1.102]>
Message-ID: <161227090133.23782.3698282847285243622.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Andrew Glass once had macros available from his website to sort Excel tables according to Unicode-transliterated Sanskrit alphabet. On his website, he now has under "projects" only an on-site sorting utility (http://andrewglass.org/sort.php) - this works with simple lists of words. I'm not sure what it does with paragraphs, though. 


Birgit Kellner


________________________________________
Von: Indology [INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk] im Auftrag von Paul G. Hackett [ph2046 at COLUMBIA.EDU]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. August 2010 14:47
An: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk
Betreff: Re: [INDOLOGY] Sorting Paragraphs

Dear Philipp,

   If you really need to preserve formatting, rather than writing a
full RTF-compliant application, it might be easier to simply write a
VBA macro with a simple bubble sort to run under Word to perform the
same task.

Paul Hackett
Columbia University


At 2:21 PM +0200 8/10/10, Philipp Maas wrote:
>Dear Colleagues,
>
>I am currently preparing a glossary of Sanskrit terms in transliteration,
>for which I would like to use a software that sorts paragraphs automatically
>in a sequence according to the Sanskrit alphabet. I am working with a
>Unicode font and a Windows operating system. The software (share- or freeware
>preferred) should be RTF compatible in order to preserve the font formats of
>the original file.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>With many thanks in advance and best regards,
>
>Philipp Maas




From kengo.harimoto at UNI-HAMBURG.DE  Tue Aug 10 17:45:25 2010
From: kengo.harimoto at UNI-HAMBURG.DE (Kengo Harimoto)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 10 19:45:25 +0200
Subject: Hiragana and Indic Scripts
In-Reply-To: <13654A21-571D-4A3D-92E0-9413F65774E9@uni-muenchen.de>
Message-ID: <161227090135.23782.5711828742580981048.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Ah, isn't Siddham simply Siddham?t?k??

I think we should distinguish the scripts (man'yo-kana, hirakana, and katakana) and the order where kanas are arranged (goj?on) in this thread.

I doubt Sanskrit (language) or Sidda(m?t?ik?) script has anything to do with the invention of hiragana and katakana (scripts).

On the other hand, I always thought that it was well acknowledged that some knowledge of Sanskrit among Buddhist intellectuals contributed in establishing the 50 character table of kanas (goj?on). Note that the original kana was man'yo-kana that simply used existing Chinese characters to represent Japanese sounds. The arrangement of those in a Snaskrit-like order was independent of the invention of hiragana or katakana. (According to the wikipedia articles below, the oldest example of Goj?on predates that of Iroha. And they are apparently written in Man'yo-kana.)

Some other things that have been mentioned in this thread I hadn't heard of was that Kukai invented katakana. Rather, I think it is widely believed that he brought Siddham/Siddham?t?k? to Japan, which may indeed be true.

Even wikipedia entry on Goj?on seems well informed:

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goj?on

-- 
Kengo Harimoto

On Aug 10, 2010, at 14:54 , Robert Zydenbos wrote:

> Apart from what Dan Lusthaus has already mentioned about the established view on the origination of the kana scripts, one should note that Siddham is very 'Indian' in its structure: like all the Brahmi-derived scripts, Siddham is of the script type known as 'abugida' (in which a basic syllabic sign is modified by means of secondary vowel signs to indicate that the vowel of the syllable is not 'a'), and the kana scripts are fundamentally different.
> 
> RZ
> 
> Op 10.08.2010, om 05:56 heeft Peter Friedlander het volgende geschreven:
> 
>> Dear Colleagues,
>> any ideas on leads on Indic script connections with Japanese Hiragana/Katakana scripts?
>> Hiragana/Katakana starts a i u e o ka ki ku ke ko etc.
>> The organization of the Japanese sound system seems related to Indic systems, but Japanese histories of their scripts that I have seen are quite silent on the relationship between Siddham and Kana script systems that I have observed (my current notes on this at http://bodhgayanews.net/melbournehindi/?p=22).
>> I am sure that somebody must have written on this, any idea where?
>> regards
>> 
>> Peter Friedlander
> 
> 
> Prof. Dr. Robert J. Zydenbos
> Department f?r Asienstudien - Institut f?r Indologie und Tibetologie
> Universit?t M?nchen
> Deutschland
> Tel. (+49-89-) 2180-5782
> Fax  (+49-89-) 2180-5827
> Web  http://www.lrz-muenchen.de/~zydenbos




From ssandahl at SYMPATICO.CA  Wed Aug 11 13:33:47 2010
From: ssandahl at SYMPATICO.CA (Stella Sandahl)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 10 09:33:47 -0400
Subject: Hiragana and Indic Scripts
In-Reply-To: <01f301cb386f$13229570$2101a8c0@Dan>
Message-ID: <161227090142.23782.17794274618381821089.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear all,
A very learned colleague of mine, to whom I forwarded the discussion  
about the Hiragana etc. scripts, sent me the following which he has  
allowed me to forward to the Indology list. However, the list  
rejected the attachment which were the entries in Prof. Waterhouse's  
forthcoming book. I am sure he'll answer you directly if you contact  
him off list. His e-mail is: david. waterhouse at utoronto.ca.

Dear Stella,

Thank you for these notes: but they are a little confused. I am  
attaching short historical notes on hiragana and katakana from the  
Glossary appended to my forthcoming catalogue of prints by Suzuki  
Harunobu (1725?-70) in the Museum of Fine Arts, Boston. Both kinds of  
kana derive from Chinese characters; the connexion with K?kai can be  
dismissed. I do not know when the present arrangement of kana first  
came into use; but until the Meiji period the most common arrangement  
was according to the iroha order: which constitutes a rather silly  
poem using all the syllables once. Older reference books follow this  
order.

K?kai studied an advanced form of Buddhist Tantrism in China, and  
introduced it to Japan for his Shingon school of Japanese Buddhism.  
In various of its rituals Shingon uses the siddham (Jap. shittan)  
script, which derives not from devanagari but from an older form of  
Gupta script. I have several reference books about it. One often sees  
it in the inscriptions in Japanese graveyards; and Shingon monks have  
to study it. Unlike Indic scripts, it is written with a brush, which  
gives it a more cursive character than devanagari. Its early history  
in Japan is unclear, but its introduction may go back to the time of  
K?kai (774-835), Saich? (767-822: founder of the Tendai school) or  
Ennin (794-864: third head of Tendai), all of whom studied in China.

Lastly, I do not see any connexion between kana and musical notation,  
except that kana themselves are used as a kind of solfa notation, and  
various other kinds of Chinese and Japanese music notation show the  
influence of Chinese characters: notably the classical notation for  
the qin (7-stringed zither).

As you may know, the Korean syllabary, a brilliant invention of 15th- 
century Korean linguists, was directly influenced by Sanskrit  
phonology, as well as by Chinese; and the shapes of individual  
letters mirror the position of the tongue.


Yours ever,

David

--
Stella Sandahl
ssandahl at sympatico.ca



On 10-Aug-10, at 5:33 AM, Dan Lusthaus wrote:

> Dear Peter,
>
> As you've discovered the orgins of the kana scripts is still  
> disputed and
> unclear.
>
> Early on, hiragana was considered a script only to be used by  
> women; men
> were expected to use kanji (Chinese characters). The idea that  
> hiragana
> primarily developed from a cursive form of Chinese characters is  
> fairly
> pervasive. See, for instance,
>
> http://www.omniglot.com/writing/japanese_hiragana.htm
> and
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiragana
>
> And legend (along with many uncritical modern works) considers K?kai
> (774?835), who established the Shingon (= tantra) school in Japan,  
> to be
> the creator of the katakana script. There is a poem, or set of gathas,
> called "Iroha" in Japanese, that offer a summary of the teaching of
> impermanence from the Nirvana Sutra; the poem employs the full set of
> katakana, and this poem had been attributed to K?kai who was  
> believed to
> have devised it as a clever mneumonic, but more recent scholarship has
> undermined that legend. See
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iroha
> and
> http://tinyurl.com/3xx74ko
>
> Note that the order of the syllabary was not always in the current  
> order,
> and that the order of appearance in the Iroha was standard for many
> centuries. Rearrangement to align it with Sanskrit order might have  
> occurred
> later as Japanese scholars developed an interest in linguistics and  
> grammar
> (under German via Dutch influence) and turned to Sanskrit  
> prototypes (via
> Chinese Buddhist translations) to set this out.
>
> You are correct that Siddham script, not Devanagri, would have been  
> familiar
> to the Japanese. The Sanskrit script studied in China and then  
> subsequently
> the rest of E. Asia was primarily Siddham. By the time Devanagri was
> developed, the transmission to China had been disrupted. K?kai  
> spent some
> time in China studying with translators (including Manichaeans), and,
> because of the tantric interest in mantras and seed syllables,  
> developed an
> interest in siddham pronunciation and script (one still finds  
> siddham used
> in certain Japanese Buddhist cemeteries, etc.). That is probably  
> why he
> comes to be associated with the development of katakana.
>
> One largely unexplored but potentially important source for both  
> hiragana
> and katakana is Chinese musical notation, especially as developed  
> during the
> Tang and Song dynasties. What started as Gongche notation ("?"  
> g?ng and "?"
> ch?) using Chinese characters to represent notes, developed into a  
> cursive
> form that has many evident overlaps with Japanese kana.
>
> On Gongche, see
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gongche_notation
>
> For the more relevant musical notation, see
>
> Rulan Chao Pian, _Song Dynasty Musical Sources and Their  
> Interpretation_,
> Harvard-Yenching, Harvard University Press, 1967, esp. the  
> illustrations
> following p. 42 and passim.
>
> You may also find the following useful for tracking the history of  
> East
> Asian awareness of Sanskrit sounds and scripts:
>
> Chaudhuri, Saroj Kumar, _Siddham in China and Japan_, a monograph  
> published
> through Victor Mair's Sino-Platonic Papers series. (No. 88, Dec.  
> 1998).
>
> Dan Lusthaus
>




From r.mahoney at INDICA-ET-BUDDHICA.ORG  Wed Aug 11 02:21:00 2010
From: r.mahoney at INDICA-ET-BUDDHICA.ORG (Richard MAHONEY)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 10 14:21:00 +1200
Subject: Sorting Paragraphs
Message-ID: <161227090139.23782.15712566000195239918.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Philipp,

It might be worth looking at initially manipulating your material in a
simple unicode encoded text file and only later -- once you're happy
with what you have -- transfering the material to a RTF file. You
might also find this Perl script useful. It will run under any system
with Perl and the Sort::ArbBiLex module.

 Sort utf-8 Sanskrit
 Arbitrary lexicographic sorting: Sort UTF-8 encoded Romanised
 Sanskrit.
 http://indica-et-buddhica.org/sections/repositorium-preview/materials/software/sort-utf8-sanskrit

One directory up there is also a script for sorting Wylie
translit. Tibetan.


Kind regards,

 Richard



On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 02:21:47PM +0200, Philipp Maas wrote:
> Dear Colleagues,
> 
> I am currently preparing a glossary of Sanskrit terms in transliteration,
> for which I would like to use a software that sorts paragraphs automatically
> in a sequence according to the Sanskrit alphabet. I am working with a
> Unicode font and a Windows operating system. The software (share- or freeware
> preferred) should be RTF compatible in order to preserve the font formats of
> the original file.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> With many thanks in advance and best regards,
> 
> Philipp Maas
> 

-- 
Richard MAHONEY

Littledene, Bay Road, OXFORD 7430, NZ
PO Box 25, OXFORD 7443
+64 3 312 1699 / +64 275 829 986
r.mahoney at indica-et-buddhica.org
http://indica-et-buddhica.org
http://camera-antipodea.indica-et-buddhica.com




From vasubandhu at EARTHLINK.NET  Wed Aug 11 18:42:54 2010
From: vasubandhu at EARTHLINK.NET (Dan Lusthaus)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 10 14:42:54 -0400
Subject: Hiragana and Indic Scripts
Message-ID: <161227090145.23782.648223258268128181.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Stella,

Thank you for passing on David's comments, with which I concur.

As for the role of musical notation, this is not something commonly discussed or recognized in the field -- I noticed it years ago but have never published on it -- so it is not surprising that David would be unaware of it. I don't know any online sources for illustrations of the sort of musical notation that I think needs to be taken into account, though splendid examples can be found in Rulan Chao Pian, _Song Dynasty Musical Sources and Their Interpretation_, Harvard-Yenching, Harvard University Press, 1967, esp. the illustrations following p. 42 and passim (see below). Everyone I have ever shown these to is immediately struck by the overlap with kana and wonders if anyone has ever written on it. So far, no one has.

Short of finding a hardcopy of the book, try searching for the book on amazon.com or 
http://tinyurl.com/288o2yd 

do the "search inside the book", and then type "yuann cherng shuang" in the search box, and then select page 38.

Or type "tsyr song" in the search box, and then select p. 37. You'll see what I mean.

best,
Dan
  ----- Original Message ----- 

  Lastly, I do not see any connexion between kana and musical notation, except that kana themselves are used as a kind of solfa notation, and various other kinds of Chinese and Japanese music notation show the influence of Chinese characters: notably the classical notation for the qin (7-stringed zither).


  David


  --
  Stella Sandahl
  ssandahl at sympatico.ca




From slaje at T-ONLINE.DE  Thu Aug 12 07:08:14 2010
From: slaje at T-ONLINE.DE (Walter Slaje)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 10 09:08:14 +0200
Subject: publication on recent history of indology : Erich Frauwallner
Message-ID: <161227090151.23782.7634172100103735610.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear List,

a review in the German lanuguage of the book announced below can now be downloaded from:
https://www.zora.uzh.ch/35376/

Kindly,

WS

------------------------------
Prof. Dr. Walter Slaje
Hermann-L?ns-Str. 1
D-99425 Weimar
(Germany)
www.indologie.uni-halle.de

Ego ex animi mei sententia spondeo ac polliceor
studia humanitatis impigro labore culturum et provecturum
non sordidi lucri causa nec ad vanam captandam gloriam,
sed quo magis veritas propagetur et lux eius, qua salus
humani generis continetur, clarius effulgeat.
Vindobonae, die XXI. mensis Novembris MCMLXXXIII.


Publication announcement:

Jakob Stuchlik:
Der arische Ansatz: Erich Frauwallner und der Nationalsozialismus.
2009


Verlag der ?sterreichischen Akademie der Wissenschaften
Austrian Academy of Sciences Press

A-1011 Wien, Postgasse 7/4


ISBN 978-3-7001-6724-2
Print Edition
ISBN 978-3-7001-6875-1
Online Edition

Sitzungsberichte der phil.-hist. Klasse 797.Band
2009,  202 Seiten, 22,5x15cm, broschiert
?  42,?

(http://epub.oeaw.ac.at/6724-2, oben links: Online Edition).

My fast rendering of publisher's info:
The ?Aryan approach? was repeatedly propagated by Erich Frauwallner
at the intersection between Indology and society, where it apparently
was a matter of presenting the results of detailed Indological
research in the form of a compact and ?well-established? image
of India to a wider audience.
Especially in the Germanspeaking world and in Japan, Frauwallner has
gone down in the history of his discipline, above all in the area of
Buddhist Studies, as a scholarly authority.
This influential scholarly reputation has led to the identification
of the India-image presented by Frauwallner as identical with India
itself.
Since in its basic structure this picture is ?Aryanizing? and racist,
it also contributes to the impression of an ?unholy alliance? between
India and Nazi Germany.
As long as the Nazi context in Frauwallner?s activity as a scholar and
teacher is ignored, either by being passed over in silence or by being
made to appear harmless, as has been done for decades in the Germanspeaking
world, there can be no serious discussion concerning the degree to which
ideology encumbers his scholarly and scholarly-political oeuvre.
What exactly is being transmitted or inherited when Frauwallner is acclaimed
as an authority and his philology considered exemplary scholarly work?
In this book, the author examines the ?Aryan approach? not ?only? as a
repeatedly presented racist periodization of Indian philosophy, but also
as the conceptual key to the scholarly and scholarly-political
work, and indeed to the life of a staunch Nazi.
In the process, he exposes many facets of dubious dealings with the past,
both before and after 1945.

The importance of this book for the HISTORY of Indology is clear.

Here I would also like to emphasize the indologically most relevant points
raised by the author, Dr. Jakob Stuchlik:
- that Frauwallner's periodization was a step backward compared to an
earlier discussion by Goetz;
- and that his approach would have led to an "Ueberbewertung der diskursiven
Erkenntnis an der Objektebene seiner Wissenschaft".

In addition, a Vorwort by Ernst Steinkellner is available at:

steinkellner_vorwort_stuchlik_2009.pdf

-------------------------------------------- 
Prof. Dr. Jan E.M. Houben,
Directeur d Etudes ? Sources et Histoire de la Tradition Sanskrite ?
Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, SHP,
A la Sorbonne,45-47, rue des Ecoles,
75005 Paris -- France.




From bill.m.mak at GMAIL.COM  Thu Aug 12 05:46:14 2010
From: bill.m.mak at GMAIL.COM (Bill Mak)
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 10 14:46:14 +0900
Subject: Hiragana and Indic Scripts
In-Reply-To: <191787.55693.qm@web65710.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <161227090147.23782.8974727644973569957.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Peter,

The most authoritative work on the subject is Mabuchi Kazuo???????? / ????
(1962)'s Nihon Ingakushi no kenkyuu ????????. The three-volumed masterpiece
contains numerous references to the questions you raised together with a
bewildering mass of materials that worths a lifetime's study.

Materials in English on this subject are largely preliminary both in scope
and depth, starting with Van Gulik, followed by Chauduri as others had
mentioned.

Best regards,
Bill Mak
2010/8/10 Peter Friedlander <peterfriedlander at yahoo.com.au>

> Dear Colleagues,
> any ideas on leads on Indic script connections with Japanese
> Hiragana/Katakana scripts?
> Hiragana/Katakana starts a i u e o ka ki ku ke ko etc.
> The organization of the Japanese sound system seems related to Indic
> systems, but Japanese histories of their scripts that I have seen are quite
> silent on the relationship between Siddham and Kana script systems that I
> have observed (my current notes on this at
> http://bodhgayanews.net/melbournehindi/?p=22).
> I am sure that somebody must have written on this, any idea where?
> regards
>
> Peter Friedlander
> ----------------------------------------
>
> Dr Peter
> Friedlander
>
> Senior Lecturer in
> Hindi and Buddhist Studies
>
> Asian Studies
>
> School of Social
> Sciences
>
> La Trobe
> University, VIC 3086
>
> Phone: + 61 3 9479
> 1400
>
> Email: p.friedlander at latrobe.edu.au
>
>
>
>
>
>




From wujastyk at GMAIL.COM  Fri Aug 13 12:15:03 2010
From: wujastyk at GMAIL.COM (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 10 14:15:03 +0200
Subject: T. Bhaskaran passes away
Message-ID: <161227090154.23782.7096554403567561381.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

I am sorry to read today that Dr T. Bhaskaran has died.  See a report
here<http://www.kaumudi.com/news/081310/kerala.stm#19>
.

In the 1980s, Dr Bhaskaran was Director of the Oriental Manuscript Library
and Research Institute, University of Kerala. (On the OMLRI, that many of us
will have visited over the years, see
here)<http://www.swathithirunal.in/rel_manuscript.htm>.
Amongst his many books, Dr Bhaskaran was particularly proud of his
publication, with his successor Dr K. Vijayan, of the facsimile edition of a
beautiful illustrated palm-leaf manuscript of the R?m?ya?a, over which he
took great pains to ensure high-quality colour reproduction and typesetting
(*Chitra Ramayanam*<http://www.kkagencies.com/servlet/kgetbiblio?name=Ramayana+in+Palm+Leaf+Pictures+Chitraramayana&suffix=&author=Edited+by+Dr.+K.+Vijayan&isbn=&n=KK-82784>,
1997, published by the University of Kerala, Trivandrum Sanskrit Series
no.265, and on CD by
CDIT<http://www.cdit.org/index/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=68&Itemid=72>
).

Dr Bhaskaran also prepared and published three volumes of the *Alphabetical
Index of Sanskrit Manuscripts in the Oriental Research Institute and
Manuscripts Library, Univ. of Trivandrum*, that are essential guides to the
MS holdings of the library.  This series was started with vol.1 (a - na,
6079 works) in 1957 by Suranad Kunjan Pillai, and continued with vol.2 (ta -
ma, 7980 works) in 1965 by K. Raghavan Pillai.  There the series halted for
decades, until Dr Bhaskaran re-enlivened it, finishing off the alphabet
(vols 3 & 4, 1984 & 1986, 5253 & 2218 works), and starting a supplemental
series (vol.5, 1988, covering 4643 works).  Few people in the world can say
that they have catalogued 12,000 Sanskrit manuscripts.  The impulse of Dr
Bhaskaran's diligent cataloguing work directly inspired the library to
complete the Supplementary Index in two further volumes (1995, 2000).  These
seven volumes cover the 35,060 Sanskrit MSS in the library that have been
catalogued, amounting to about half the library's total holdings.

Dr Bhaskaran was a member of the Ezhava community.  He was proud to have
been such a leading figure in Sanskrit studies in Kerala, and explained to
me a few years ago, when I visited him in his retirement in Aleppey, that
the Ezhavas as a group were often quite wrongly categorized merely as
toddy-tappers, when in fact many members of their society were physicians
and herbalists, as well as Sanskritists.  As an example, he cited the famous
facsimile inscription<http://images.biodiversitylibrary.org/adore-djatoka/resolver?url_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_id=http://mbgserv09:8057/botanicus2/b11939795/31753003370076/jp2/31753003370076_0014.jp2&svc_id=info:lanl-repo/svc/getRegion&svc_val_fmt=info:ofi/fmt:kev:mtx:jpeg2000&svc.format=image/jpeg&svc.scale=1800&svc.level=4>of
20 April 1675 in the
*Hortus Malabaricus* (Amsterdam, 1678-1693) in which the Ezhava Itty
Acyutan<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itty_Achudan>,
"Doctor Malabaricus," wrote about his own contribution to that magisterial
work of Dutch botanical science.

Dr Bhaskaran was a kind and learned man, who did much quiet and important
work for the indological field of studies.

Dr Dominik Wujastyk
Institut f?r S?dasien-, Tibet- und Buddhismuskunde
Universit?t Wien
Spitalgasse 2-4, Hof 2, Eingang 2.1
A-1090 Vienna
Austria




From h.arganisjuarez at YAHOO.COM.MX  Fri Aug 13 21:39:41 2010
From: h.arganisjuarez at YAHOO.COM.MX (Horacio Francisco Arganis Juarez)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 10 14:39:41 -0700
Subject: Looking for quotes
Message-ID: <161227090166.23782.16698728261171484734.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

> De: Horacio Francisco Arganis Juarez <h.arganisjuarez at yahoo.com.mx>
> Asunto: Looking for quotes
> A: "Martin Gansten" <martin.gansten at PBHOME.SE>
> Fecha: viernes, 13 de agosto de 2010, 21:38
> Dear Professors:
> I am looking for my Ph D thesis the follow literal quotes
> in English from the Jainas and buddhistics sources:
> 
> The most exalted figures in Jainism are the twenty-four
> Tirthankaras. Krishna, when he was incorporated into the
> Jain list of heroic figures presented a problem with his
> activities which are not pacifist or non-violent. The
> concept of Baladeva, Vasudeva and Prati-Vasudeva was used to
> solve it. The Jain list of sixty-three Shalakapurshas or
> notable figures includes amongst others, the twenty-four
> Tirthankaras and nine sets of this triad. One of these
> triads is Krishna as the Vasudeva, Balarama as the Baladeva
> and Jarasandha as the Prati-Vasudeva. He was a cousin of the
> twenty-second Tirthankara, Neminatha. The stories of these
> triads can be found in the Harivamsha of Jinasena (not be
> confused with its namesake, the addendum to Mah?bh?rata)
> and the Trishashti-shalakapurusha-charita of
> Hemachandra.[97]
> 
> In each age of the Jain cyclic time is born a Vasudeva with
> an elder brother termed the Baladeva. The villain is the
> Prati-vasudeva. Baladeva is the upholder of the Jain
> principle of non-violence. However, Vasudeva has to forsake
> this principle to kill the Prati-Vasudeva and save the
> world. The Vasudeva then descends to hell as a punishment
> for this violent act. Having undergone the punishment he is
> then reborn as a Tirthankara.[98][99]
> Buddhism
>  
> Depiction of Krishna playing flute in the temple
> constructed in AD 752 on the order of Emperor Shomu;
> Todai-ji Temple, Great Buddha Hall in Nara, JapanThe story
> of Krishna occurs in the Jataka tales in Buddhism,[100] in
> the Ghatapandita Jataka as a prince and legendary conqueror
> and king of India.[101] In the Buddhist version, Krishna is
> called Vasudeva, Kanha and Keshava, and Balarama is his
> younger brother, Baladeva. These details resemble that of
> the story given in the Bhagavata Purana. Vasudeva, along
> with his nine other brothers (each son a powerful wrestler)
> and one elder sister (Anjana) capture all of Jambudvipa
> (many consider this to be India) after beheading their evil
> uncle, King Kamsa, and later all other kings of Jambudvipa
> with his Sudarshana Chakra. Much of the story involving the
> defeat of Kamsa follows the story given in the Bhagavata
> Purana.[102]
> 
> As depicted in the Mah?bh?rata, all of the sons are
> eventually killed due to a curse of sage Kanhadipayana (Veda
> Vyasa, also known as Krishna Dwaipayana). Krishna himself is
> eventually speared by a hunter in the foot by mistake,
> leaving the sole survivor of their family being their
> sister, Anjanadevi of whom no further mention is made.[103]
> 
> Since Jataka tales are given from the perspective of
> Buddha's previous lives (as well as the previous lives of
> many of Buddha's followers), Krishna appears as one of the
> lives of Sariputra, one of Buddha's foremost disciples and
> the "Dhammasenapati" or "Chief General of the Dharma" and is
> usually shown being Buddha's "right hand man" in Buddhist
> art and iconography.[104] The Bodhisattva, is born in this
> tale as one of his youngest brothers named Ghatapandita, and
> saves Krishna from the grief of losing his son.[101] The
> 'divine boy' Krishna as an embodiment of wisdom and
> endearing prankster is forming a part of worshipable
> pantheon in Japanese Buddhism.[105]
> 
> ^ Jaini, P.S. (1993). "Jaina Puranas: A Puranic Counter
> Tradition". Journal of the American Oriental Society 94: 96.
> doi:10.2307/599733. http://books.google.com/books^ Cort, J.E.
> (1993). "An Overview of the Jaina Puranas". Journal of the
> American Oriental Society 94: 96. doi:10.2307/599733.
> http://
> 
> 
> Lic. M.A. Horacio Francisco Arganis Ju?rez
> Catedr?tico Investigador de la Universidad
> Internacional Euroamericana.
> Departamento de Filosof?a y Religi?n Comparada.
> Miembro del Instituto de Estudios Filos?ficos de Saltillo
> A. C.
> www.uie.edu.es
> 
> 
> --- El vie 13-ago-10, Martin Gansten <martin.gansten at PBHOME.SE>
> escribi?:
> 
> > De: Martin Gansten <martin.gansten at PBHOME.SE>
> > Asunto: [INDOLOGY] Looking for Hemaprabha S?ri's
> Trailokyaprak?? a (etc.)
> > A: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk
> > Fecha: viernes, 13 de agosto de 2010, 16:46
> > I have been trying for some time, so
> > far unsuccessfully, to procure a copy (printed,
> photocopied
> > or scanned) of the Trailokyaprak??a by Hemaprabha
> S?ri.
> > Apart from the edition mentioned by Pingree (New
> Delhi
> > 1967), I am aware only of a 1980 edition (with Hindi
> > translation) published by the Jamnagar Jain Sangh.
> > 
> > Even more elusive is the T?jikatantras?ra (aka
> > Ga?akabh??a?a, aka Karmaprak??ik?, aka
> > M?nu?yaj?taka) by Samarasi?ha. Here I know of
> only one
> > edition (with N?laka??ha's
> T?jikan?laka??h?,
> > Mera?ha 1866).
> > 
> > Any help with locating either of these texts would be
> > greatly appreciated.
> > 
> > Martin Gansten
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 


      




From athr at LOC.GOV  Fri Aug 13 20:07:46 2010
From: athr at LOC.GOV (Thrasher, Allen)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 10 16:07:46 -0400
Subject: Looking for Hemaprabha              S=?utf-8?Q?=C5=ABri's__Trailokyaprak=C4=81=C5=9B?= a (etc.)
In-Reply-To: <4C657701.7040202@pbhome.se>
Message-ID: <161227090163.23782.2213521017192659628.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

There is another ed. of the Trailokyaprak??a in the Library of Congress and eight other U.S. libraries.  You could request via Interlibrary Loan.

LC Control No.:       99946531 
Personal Name:     Hemaprabhas?uri, 13th cent. 
Uniform Title:     Trailokyaprak?a?sa. Hindi & Sanskrit
Main Title:        Trailokya prak?a?sa / Hemaprabha S?ur?i?svara J?i pran?ita
                      ; sankalanakartt?a Padma Vijaya Mah?ar?aja Gan?ivarya.
Published/Created: Hastin?apura, Meratha, U. Pra. : ?Sr?i Nirgrantha S?ahitya
                      Prak?a?sana Sangha, 1998.
Related Names:     Padma Vijaya, 1937- 
Description:       lxiv, 188 p. : ill. ; 23 cm.
Summary:           Verse work, with Hindi translation on Hindu astrology.
Notes:             Hindi and Sanskrit.
Subjects:          Hindu astrology--Early works to 1800.
                   Jaina astrology--Early works to 1800.
Other System No.:  (OCLC) 43356543  
CALL NUMBER:       BF1714.H5 H3814 1998 Hind
                   Copy 1
-- Request in:     Asian Reading Room (Jefferson, LJ150)

WorldCat also shows a manuscript of it in Columbia University (OCLC No. 265033641), link to OPAC Clio < http://tinyurl.com/Trailokyaprakasa-ms >.

There is a M?nu?yaj?taka, but by Sridhara not Samarasingha, in microfiche in the Library of Congress and Center for Research Libraries:

LC Control No.:       94905574 
Personal Name:     ?Sr?idhara (Son of Jat?a?sankara)
Uniform Title:     Manusyaj?ataka
Main Title:        Sat?ikam sodah?aranam Manusyaj?atakam [microform] /
                      [?Sr?idhara viracitam].
Published/Created: Kaly?ana-Mumba?i : "Laksm?ivenkate?svara" Mudran?alaye,
                      1972 [1915]
Related Titles:    Manusyaj?atakam.
Description:       208 p. ; 18 cm.
Summary:           Verse work on Hindu astrology; includes explanation in
                      Sanskrit.
Notes:             In Sanskrit.
                   Master microform held by: DLC.
Additional Formats:
                   Microfiche. New Delhi : Library of Congress Office ;
                      Washington, D.C. : Library of Congress Photoduplication
                      Service, 1994.  3 microfiches.
Subjects:          Hindu astrology.
CALL NUMBER:       Microfiche 94/61358 (B) So Asia
                   Copy 1
-- Request in:     Asian Reading Room (Jefferson, LJ150)
-- Status:         Not Charged


It also can be requested via Interlibrary Loan.  Or one can just buy the fiche from our Duplication Services < http://www.loc.gov/preserv/pds/ >.  The latter might be quicker and no more expensive.  There is also a copy in the Bibliotheque Nationale, according to WorldCat.  I have no idea if these are the same work attibuted to different authors.

Allen

Allen W. Thrasher, Ph.D.
Senior Reference Librarian and Team Coordinator
South Asia Team
Asian Division
Library of Congress
Washington, DC 20540-4810
USA
tel. 202-707-3732
fax 202-707-1724












-----Original Message-----
From: Indology [mailto:INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Martin Gansten
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 12:47 PM
To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Looking for Hemaprabha S?ri's Trailokyaprak?? a (etc.)

I have been trying for some time, so far unsuccessfully, to procure a copy (printed, photocopied or scanned) of the Trailokyaprak??a by Hemaprabha S?ri. Apart from the edition mentioned by Pingree (New Delhi 1967), I am aware only of a 1980 edition (with Hindi translation) published by the Jamnagar Jain Sangh.

Even more elusive is the T?jikatantras?ra (aka Ga?akabh??a?a, aka Karmaprak??ik?, aka M?nu?yaj?taka) by Samarasi?ha. Here I know of only one edition (with N?laka??ha's T?jikan?laka??h?, Mera?ha 1866).

Any help with locating either of these texts would be greatly appreciated.

Martin Gansten




From gthomgt at COMCAST.NET  Fri Aug 13 16:52:49 2010
From: gthomgt at COMCAST.NET (gthomgt at COMCAST.NET)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 10 16:52:49 +0000
Subject: Hiragana and Indic Scripts
In-Reply-To: <168226226.1380620.1281718156943.JavaMail.root@sz0152a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <161227090160.23782.8204831187587991876.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear List, 

I think that the issue here is not really about the influence of Indic scripts on other Asian scripts.? No, it is?rather a question of the influence of?the Sanskrit grammarians on the organization of these other Asian scripts.? What was transmitted to these Asian cultures from India was not a script.??What was transmitted was an awareness?of the remarkable insight of these Sanskrit?grammarians into the?sound system not only of Sanskrit, but of language in general. 

The Sanskrit grammarians organized the Sanskrit sound system according to a rational system organized from points of articulation in the vocal apparatus, from back formations to front formations.?This applies to vowels first and then to consonants. It is this phonolological insight that has been passed on to other other Asian scholars -- not? a knowledge of scripts per se.? 

So, I agree with?Kengo Harimoto that it was the logical order of the sounds that was learned from the Sanskrit grammarians, not the script itself. 

I think that list members may benefit from reading an essay by Frits Staal, who made these points explicit in an excellent paper which has't gotten much attention: 

"The Sound Pattern of Sanskrit in Asia" 

["Sanskrit Studies Centre Journal. An annual publication on any research subject related to Sanskrit". (Sanskrit 
Studies Centre. Dept. of Oriental Languages. Faculty of Archaeology,Silpakorn, Bangkok, Thailand.) Vol.II (2006) 193-208.] 


Best wishes, 
George Thompson




From martin.gansten at PBHOME.SE  Fri Aug 13 16:46:57 2010
From: martin.gansten at PBHOME.SE (Martin Gansten)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 10 18:46:57 +0200
Subject: Looking for Hemaprabha              S=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=ABri's_Trailokyaprak=C4=81=C5=9B?= a (etc.)
Message-ID: <161227090157.23782.3037469228600680010.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

I have been trying for some time, so far unsuccessfully, to procure a 
copy (printed, photocopied or scanned) of the Trailokyaprak??a by 
Hemaprabha S?ri. Apart from the edition mentioned by Pingree (New Delhi 
1967), I am aware only of a 1980 edition (with Hindi translation) 
published by the Jamnagar Jain Sangh.

Even more elusive is the T?jikatantras?ra (aka Ga?akabh??a?a, aka 
Karmaprak??ik?, aka M?nu?yaj?taka) by Samarasi?ha. Here I know of only 
one edition (with N?laka??ha's T?jikan?laka??h?, Mera?ha 1866).

Any help with locating either of these texts would be greatly appreciated.

Martin Gansten




From harshadehejia at HOTMAIL.COM  Sat Aug 14 11:15:05 2010
From: harshadehejia at HOTMAIL.COM (Harsha Dehejia)
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 10 11:15:05 +0000
Subject: Ananda
Message-ID: <161227090169.23782.4186485307620364801.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Friends~

 

The idea that ananda or bliss is not individual but universal is deep in the Indian tradition.

 

The Buddhists draw on this in their concept of nirvana.

 

The shanti path which says "sarve skhina bhavatu etc" does enunciate this concept. 

 

Is there any other sutra that defines ananda as being universal?

 

Regards.

 

Harsha.

Harsha V. Dehejia

Ottawa, ON., Canada.
 		 	   		  




From slaje at T-ONLINE.DE  Sun Aug 15 12:13:06 2010
From: slaje at T-ONLINE.DE (Walter Slaje)
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 10 14:13:06 +0200
Subject: Fw: Hanxleden's Grammatica Grandonica
Message-ID: <161227090172.23782.10427532450468373043.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Forwarded to the list on behalf of Paolo Aranha:

>As I have a general interest in whatever concerns the history of Catholic missions to India during the early modern age, I immediately went from Rome (where I live) to the Carmelite Convent of San Silvestro in Montecompatri so as to see this precious manuscript. The Carmelite Fathers have kindly allowed all the few scholars who have come to Montecompatri to take photoreproductions of this manuscripts. Moreover, they have also specified to me that they would be happy if this manuscript could be available online. I am confident that the indological research team of Dr. Van Hal will take care of publishing the manuscript in a professional academic website.
In order to simplify furthermore the access to this pdf preliminary version, I have linked it also to the Wikipedia (English) page devoted to Hanxleden.
In case you want to share this document with other scholars, it is sufficient that you send them this link only: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Ernst_Hanxleden.

Paolo Aranha 
European University Institute 
Department of History and Civilization 
Via Boccaccio 121 
50133 Firenze 
paolo.aranha at eui.eu 
paolo.aranha at gmail.com
Cell. (Italia): +39 320 6062555
www.eui.eu


Best, WS

------------------------------
Prof. Dr. Walter Slaje
Hermann-L?ns-Str. 1
D-99425 Weimar
(Germany)
www.indologie.uni-halle.de




From mmdesh at UMICH.EDU  Tue Aug 17 15:01:28 2010
From: mmdesh at UMICH.EDU (Deshpande, Madhav)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 10 11:01:28 -0400
Subject: Anusv=?utf-8?Q?=C4=81ra?= versus bindu?
Message-ID: <161227090174.23782.2273989059680444314.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Indologists,

     I recite the Ga?e?aa Atharva??r?a everyday since my childhood, but I had not previously thought about some of the lines in it:  gak?ra? p?rvar?pam / ak?ro madhyamar?pam / anusv?ra? c?ntyar?pam / bindur uttarar?pam / n?da? sandh?nam / sa?hit? sandhi? /.  While the anusv?ra is considered to be antya, the bindu is considered to be uttara.  Is there any (t?ntric?) explanation to split the anusv?ra and the bindu.  I always thought that bindu is simply a graphic representation for the anusv?ra, as is seen in some grammars of Skt:  upari???d bindur anusv?ra?.  How would one distinguish antya from uttara in these lines?  Any suggestions?

Madhav

Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
The University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, Michigan 48104-1608, USA




From dbhattacharya200498 at YAHOO.COM  Tue Aug 17 16:54:48 2010
From: dbhattacharya200498 at YAHOO.COM (Dipak Bhattacharya)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 10 22:24:48 +0530
Subject: Fw: Re: [INDOLOGY] Anusv=?utf-8?Q?=C4=81ra?= versus bindu?
Message-ID: <161227090177.23782.2464804928326841852.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

--- On Tue, 17/8/10, Dipak Bhattacharya <dbhattacharya200498 at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Dipak Bhattacharya <dbhattacharya200498 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Anusv?ra versus bindu?
To: "MadhavDeshpande" <mmdesh at UMICH.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, 17 August, 2010, 4:53 PM







Prayers vary from region to region. Still, the setting makes it appear that the first three sentences pertain to the m?tr?k? but after that, from anusv?ra, the prayer pertains to the process ie the significance of anusv?ra etc. If this is correct bindu is the thing and not the written representaion. In ??kt?gama bindu is the neuter unconscious element of the triratna.
Best
DB
?

--- On Tue, 17/8/10, Deshpande, Madhav <mmdesh at UMICH.EDU> wrote:


From: Deshpande, Madhav <mmdesh at UMICH.EDU>
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Anusv?ra versus bindu?
To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk
Date: Tuesday, 17 August, 2010, 3:01 PM


Dear Indologists,

? ???I recite the Ga?e?aa Atharva??r?a everyday since my childhood, but I had not previously thought about some of the lines in it:? gak?ra? p?rvar?pam / ak?ro madhyamar?pam / anusv?ra? c?ntyar?pam / bindur uttarar?pam / n?da? sandh?nam / sa?hit? sandhi? /.? While the anusv?ra is considered to be antya, the bindu is considered to be uttara.? Is there any (t?ntric?) explanation to split the anusv?ra and the bindu.? I always thought that bindu is simply a graphic representation for the anusv?ra, as is seen in some grammars of Skt:? upari???d bindur anusv?ra?.? How would one distinguish antya from uttara in these lines?? Any suggestions?

Madhav

Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
The University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, Michigan 48104-1608, USA








From mmdesh at UMICH.EDU  Wed Aug 18 22:51:20 2010
From: mmdesh at UMICH.EDU (Deshpande, Madhav)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 10 18:51:20 -0400
Subject: URL for the Online New Catalogus Catalogorum
Message-ID: <161227090180.23782.13677372478183296697.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Indologists,

     Previously, the URL (http://results2.ap.nic.in/general/s1/index.html) used to open the website of the online version of the New Catalogus Catalogorum, but it is no longer opening.  Does anyone know a functioning URL to get to this website?  Thanks for your attention.

Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
202 South Thayer Street, Suite 6111
The University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, Michigan 48104-1608, USA




From ashok.aklujkar at UBC.CA  Sun Aug 22 18:58:40 2010
From: ashok.aklujkar at UBC.CA (Ashok Aklujkar)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 10 11:58:40 -0700
Subject: Skt text of Skanda-puraa.na 7.1.11.88-89
Message-ID: <161227090183.23782.4686013720108201821.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

I do not at present have access to the Prabhaasa-kha.nda of the Skanda-puraa.na. It seems to have been counted as the seventh kha.n.da in at least some of the editions. The verse of which I need the original text is specified as Skanda Puraa.na 7.1.11.88-89 in one of my sources of information. A part of the text is said to be pratya:ngam iva nirmitam. 

In the translation by G.V. Tagare in the MLBD Puraa.na tr series, vol. 67 pt. XiX, p. 71, where VII.I.11 is specified, verses 88-89 have been translated as follows: 
	"After deciding to go to her father's house, the lady of great renown looked at her own reflection (Chaayaa), which 	appeared to be made similar to her in every limb. Seeing that divine being in front of her, her own Ch?y?, she 		spoke these words:"

 If any of you have access to the relevant kha.n.da of the Skanda Puraa.na, kindly let me know how the Skt original of these lines reads. The context is that of the story of Sa.mj;naa. 

Thanks.

ashok aklujkar




From paolo.magnone at UNICATT.IT  Sun Aug 22 19:14:58 2010
From: paolo.magnone at UNICATT.IT (Paolo Magnone)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 10 21:14:58 +0200
Subject: Skt text of Skanda-puraa.na 7.1.11.88-89
In-Reply-To: <34C82226-57F9-410C-8FF1-464630A5D1D6@ubc.ca>
Message-ID: <161227090185.23782.16303899124256033077.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

 Dear Ashok,

The text of the Ve?ka?e?vara edition (VII, 1, 11) runs as follows:

??? ???????? ?????? ??????????????????? ? ???????????????? ??????????? ?????????? ? ?? ?
??????? ????????? ??? ????? ????? ????? ????????????? ? ?? ?

Paolo Magnone
Sanskrit Language and Literature
Catholic University of Milan

Jambudvipa  - Indology and Sanskrit Studies (www.jambudvipa.net)



On 22/08/2010 20.58, Ashok Aklujkar wrote:
> I do not at present have access to the Prabhaasa-kha.nda of the Skanda-puraa.na. It seems to have been counted as the seventh kha.n.da in at least some of the editions. The verse of which I need the original text is specified as Skanda Puraa.na 7.1.11.88-89 in one of my sources of information. A part of the text is said to be pratya:ngam iva nirmitam. 
>
> In the translation by G.V. Tagare in the MLBD Puraa.na tr series, vol. 67 pt. XiX, p. 71, where VII.I.11 is specified, verses 88-89 have been translated as follows: 
> 	"After deciding to go to her father's house, the lady of great renown looked at her own reflection (Chaayaa), which 	appeared to be made similar to her in every limb. Seeing that divine being in front of her, her own Ch?y?, she 		spoke these words:"
>
>  If any of you have access to the relevant kha.n.da of the Skanda Puraa.na, kindly let me know how the Skt original of these lines reads. The context is that of the story of Sa.mj;naa. 
>
> Thanks.
>
> ashok aklujkar




From rmanring at INDIANA.EDU  Mon Aug 23 14:04:08 2010
From: rmanring at INDIANA.EDU (Manring, Rebecca)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 10 14:04:08 +0000
Subject: searchable indices?
In-Reply-To: <4C717732.8070906@unicatt.it>
Message-ID: <161227090188.23782.16551833083877568583.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Colleagues,

I'm polishing up a manuscript to send off for publication in the next few days, and there are still a few text citations in the work I'm translating, that I haven't been able to identify.  Does anyone know of any on-line searchable collections of puranic, etc. materials that I may have overlooked?  I've managed (in our library here at Indiana) to search the Caitanya Caritamrta, the Bhagavata Purana, the Padma Purana, Brahmanda Purana, Vamana Purana and Visnu Mahapurana, as well as the Caitanya Candrodaya Nataka, and found a few of these mystery citations, but a couple still have me stumped.

Thank you,

Rebecca J. Manring
Acting Director
India Studies Program

and

Associate Professor
India Studies and Religious Studies
Indiana University-Bloomington







From wujastyk at GMAIL.COM  Mon Aug 23 20:48:10 2010
From: wujastyk at GMAIL.COM (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 10 22:48:10 +0200
Subject: searchable indices?
In-Reply-To: <BCC8F68DE90B5C4980DED5352059C45A0600C8@IU-MSSG-MBX105.ads.iu.edu>
Message-ID: <161227090190.23782.18196576511338940343.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

You can download
GRETIL<http://www.sub.uni-goettingen.de/ebene_1/fiindolo/gretil.htm>and
search it locally on your hard disk.

SARIT <http://sarit.indology.info> is a searchable collection of online Skt
texts that includes the Brahmapurana.

Best,

Dominik Wujastyk




From andra.kleb at GOOGLEMAIL.COM  Mon Aug 23 21:06:11 2010
From: andra.kleb at GOOGLEMAIL.COM (Andrey Klebanov)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 10 23:06:11 +0200
Subject: searchable indices?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikNQXdruBE2aofc=733Tx76K2L5ggyEQodBGiEF@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <161227090192.23782.11693600807547808409.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

and Oliver Hellwig's
http://kjc-fs-cluster.kjc.uni-heidelberg.de/dcs/index.php


Andrey Klebanov



On 23.08.2010, at 22:48, Dominik Wujastyk wrote:

> You can download
> GRETIL<http://www.sub.uni-goettingen.de/ebene_1/fiindolo/gretil.htm>and
> search it locally on your hard disk.
> 
> SARIT <http://sarit.indology.info> is a searchable collection of online Skt
> texts that includes the Brahmapurana.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Dominik Wujastyk




From mjslouber at BERKELEY.EDU  Tue Aug 24 07:19:49 2010
From: mjslouber at BERKELEY.EDU (Michael Slouber)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 10 09:19:49 +0200
Subject: searchable indices?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikNQXdruBE2aofc=733Tx76K2L5ggyEQodBGiEF@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <161227090200.23782.6970273784077017088.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Is is possible to batch download some or all of the GRETIL etexts?  


On Aug 23, 2010, at 10:48 PM, Dominik Wujastyk wrote:

> You can download
> GRETIL<http://www.sub.uni-goettingen.de/ebene_1/fiindolo/gretil.htm>and
> search it locally on your hard disk.
> 
> SARIT <http://sarit.indology.info> is a searchable collection of online Skt
> texts that includes the Brahmapurana.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Dominik Wujastyk




From daniel at DANIELSTENDER.COM  Tue Aug 24 08:14:35 2010
From: daniel at DANIELSTENDER.COM (Daniel Stender)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 10 10:14:35 +0200
Subject: searchable indices?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikNQXdruBE2aofc=733Tx76K2L5ggyEQodBGiEF@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <161227090202.23782.4001544100811846093.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Discussion proposal: an accessable standardized, comprehensive and searchable corpus of Sanskrit 
texts is urgently needed like the humanists/greek scholars have it for example (indeed they have 
some for running software over etc.). Forces have to be bundled. I think that SARIT is the most 
promising approach so far.

Greetings,
Daniel Stender

On 23.08.2010 22:48, Dominik Wujastyk wrote:
> You can download
> GRETIL<http://www.sub.uni-goettingen.de/ebene_1/fiindolo/gretil.htm>and
> search it locally on your hard disk.
>
> SARIT<http://sarit.indology.info>  is a searchable collection of online Skt
> texts that includes the Brahmapurana.
>
> Best,
>
> Dominik Wujastyk




From dbhattacharya200498 at YAHOO.COM  Tue Aug 24 05:17:07 2010
From: dbhattacharya200498 at YAHOO.COM (Dipak Bhattacharya)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 10 10:47:07 +0530
Subject: madness
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimDpXmiQeuQL++ecF1KWTz=hnNKCHjvauNj7feY@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <161227090197.23782.2552800923638113886.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

I think AAyurveda is not meant. It extensively deals with madness .
Best DB


--- On Tue, 24/8/10, patrick mccartney <hopeforageneration at GMAIL.COM> wrote:


From: patrick mccartney <hopeforageneration at GMAIL.COM>
Subject: [INDOLOGY] madness
To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk
Date: Tuesday, 24 August, 2010, 4:07 AM


Dear List,

Does anyone know if the diagnosis &? treatment of madness/ mental illness is
prescribed in the dharma??stra corpus?

I am interested in any *legal* definition and its application which may be
separate from any mention in the? Ayurvedic a?gas of bh?ta vidya and
manovij??n.

Thanks,


-- 
Patrick McCartney -
PO Box? 704
Walkerville
South Australia 5081
SKYPE:? cranky-mechanic

?? ????? ???????
tava hRdayaM anugaccha
Follow your heart







From wujastyk at GMAIL.COM  Tue Aug 24 11:19:56 2010
From: wujastyk at GMAIL.COM (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 10 13:19:56 +0200
Subject: searchable indices?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikNQXdruBE2aofc=733Tx76K2L5ggyEQodBGiEF@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <161227090205.23782.6875794732558290232.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Actually, one can search GRETIL in situ by using a Google Search of the
following type:

   - site:http://www.sub.uni-goettingen.de/ebene_1/ ?c?rya

Running the above search gave me this
result<http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.sub.uni-goettingen.de%2Febene_1%2F+%C4%81c%C4%81rya&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8>
.

The "site:" prefix tells Google to restrict its search to a particular web
site.  So the above searches for "?c?rya" anywhere on the Goettingen site /
ebene_1

D

Dr Dominik Wujastyk
Institut f?r S?dasien-, Tibet- und Buddhismuskunde
Universit?t Wien
Spitalgasse 2-4, Hof 2, Eingang 2.1
A-1090 Vienna
Austria
--
Long-term email address: wujastyk at gmail.com
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Sign-up to Dropbox using the following link and get 2.25 gigabytes of
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On 23 August 2010 22:48, Dominik Wujastyk <wujastyk at gmail.com> wrote:

> You can download GRETIL<http://www.sub.uni-goettingen.de/ebene_1/fiindolo/gretil.htm>and search it locally on your hard disk.
>
> SARIT <http://sarit.indology.info> is a searchable collection of online
> Skt texts that includes the Brahmapurana.
>
> Best,
>
> Dominik Wujastyk
>
>




From hopeforageneration at GMAIL.COM  Tue Aug 24 04:07:16 2010
From: hopeforageneration at GMAIL.COM (patrick mccartney)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 10 13:37:16 +0930
Subject: madness
Message-ID: <161227090195.23782.9162155107266956027.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear List,

Does anyone know if the diagnosis &  treatment of madness/ mental illness is
prescribed in the dharma??stra corpus?

I am interested in any *legal* definition and its application which may be
separate from any mention in the  Ayurvedic a?gas of bh?ta vidya and
manovij??n.

Thanks,


-- 
Patrick McCartney -
PO Box  704
Walkerville
South Australia 5081
SKYPE:  cranky-mechanic

?? ????? ???????
tava hRdayaM anugaccha
Follow your heart




From mjslouber at BERKELEY.EDU  Tue Aug 24 11:39:22 2010
From: mjslouber at BERKELEY.EDU (Michael Slouber)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 10 13:39:22 +0200
Subject: searchable indices?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin7k_5KUCMsF6kz+zKZA-FR0KF0+CLxSaVfRyBc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <161227090208.23782.3948804992281249575.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

That is helpful, but not ideal.  Offline we can do all kinds of useful searching with plain text files, but Google seems to index only by word, which it judges by spaces or period marks.  So your search does not actually turn up all of the cases of ?c?rya, only the ones where it is followed by a space or period.  



On Aug 24, 2010, at 1:19 PM, Dominik Wujastyk wrote:

> Actually, one can search GRETIL in situ by using a Google Search of the
> following type:
> 
>   - site:http://www.sub.uni-goettingen.de/ebene_1/ ?c?rya
> 
> Running the above search gave me this
> result<http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.sub.uni-goettingen.de%2Febene_1%2F+%C4%81c%C4%81rya&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8>
> .
> 
> The "site:" prefix tells Google to restrict its search to a particular web
> site.  So the above searches for "?c?rya" anywhere on the Goettingen site /
> ebene_1
> 
> D
> 
> Dr Dominik Wujastyk
> Institut f?r S?dasien-, Tibet- und Buddhismuskunde
> Universit?t Wien
> Spitalgasse 2-4, Hof 2, Eingang 2.1
> A-1090 Vienna
> Austria
> --
> Long-term email address: wujastyk at gmail.com
> PGP key: http://wujastyk.net/pgp.html
> --
> Sign-up to Dropbox using the following link and get 2.25 gigabytes of
> storage free.
> https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTIzNzI2MTY5
> 
> 
> On 23 August 2010 22:48, Dominik Wujastyk <wujastyk at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> You can download GRETIL<http://www.sub.uni-goettingen.de/ebene_1/fiindolo/gretil.htm>and search it locally on your hard disk.
>> 
>> SARIT <http://sarit.indology.info> is a searchable collection of online
>> Skt texts that includes the Brahmapurana.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Dominik Wujastyk
>> 
>> 




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From: mark.allon at SYDNEY.EDU.AU (Mark Allon)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 10 13:07:46 +1000
Subject: Lecturer in East Asian Buddhism
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinkd78hs6TRV1AFiJDxZRpj8G1WtCsGwRK7mwFo@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <161227090210.23782.4551801213686158185.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

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From wujastyk at GMAIL.COM  Fri Aug 27 07:19:56 2010
From: wujastyk at GMAIL.COM (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 10 09:19:56 +0200
Subject: Fwd: Indices of Sanskrit Texts
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiksoNCnnDPRNcm6COxoCC0TJ8vMcxb8vrwfqr8Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <161227090214.23782.12888017993548950380.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Harry Spier <hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com>
Date: 27 August 2010 02:19
Subject: Re: Indices of Sanskrit Texts
Re: Searchable Indices of Sanskrit Texts

Dear list members,

The digital library of the  Muktabodha Indological Research Institutes
www.muktabodha.org contains around  two hundred searchable medieval
religious texts (mostly Tantric and Agamic).  It contains a very powerful
search engine that allows you to search for either simple words, expressions
or complex patterns of words in both Kyoto-Harvard and Velthuis
transliterations.  The search engine brings up all the lines in the texts
where  the search pattern was found and clicking on a line brings up the
full text at the highlighted line.

For example, recently Madhav Deshpande asked on the list a question about
anusvAra and bindu.  By searching in the Muktabodha digital library with the
search pattern

*<((nusvAr).*(bind))|((bind).*(nusvAr))>
*
This will give you about 25 references in 7 different tantric texts to where
anusvAra and bindu are mentioned in the same sentence in tantric texts.  You
can then click on any references you are interested in and the e-text will
come up at the correct location.

This is a complex search pattern but you can do much simpler searchs and
with practice the "regular expression" syntax becomes easy.
The *< >*in  *<((nusvAr).*(bind))|((bind).*(nusvAr))> *means you are using
Harvard-Kyoto  I.e. everything between < and > is Harvard-Kyoto.  If you
wish to use Velthuis then you put the search pattern between *{ *and *}*.


*(nusvAr).*(bind) *means all sentences containing both nusvAr and bind no
matter how separate in the same sentence(I'm truncating the words so you get
them whatever the sandhi
*(bind).*(nusvAr) *means all sentences containing both bind and nusvAr no
matter how separate in the same sentence.

The *| *means search for both patterns and the *( )*'s are just a simple way
of separating items in the search pattern.
These are whats known as a "regular expression" search pattern.

*.** means there may be letters between the items searched for.

The beauty of "regular expression" search patterns is that you can search
for variations.  For example above I'm searching not only for where bindu
follows anusvAra but also where anusvAra follows bindu.

I've always thought that a "regular expression" search engine could be an
extremely valuable tool in Indological research.

To use another example, a few years back on the Yahoo Indology list Michael
Witzel indicated that  the high frequency of "ha" at pada final in the
Uttarakhanda of the Ramayana showed that that khanda was relatively late in
response to someones question.  It was very easy to find all lines with "ha"
and also all pada final "ha" with a regular expression search engine to get
a relative count of its position in the pada.  (in that particular case it
was the search engine of a programmers editor that was used).

Regards,
Harry Spier
Muktabodha




From wujastyk at GMAIL.COM  Fri Aug 27 09:34:20 2010
From: wujastyk at GMAIL.COM (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 10 11:34:20 +0200
Subject: Major grant awarded for Sanskrit digital resources
Message-ID: <161227090217.23782.11653512057572757321.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

>
> National Endowment for the Humanities and the German Research Foundation
> award $1.67 million to international digital humanities projects<http://archiv.twoday.net/stories/6482736/>
> *"WASHINGTON (July 20, 2010)?The National Endowment for the Humanities
> (NEH) today announced $897,000 in grants for five international digital
> humanities projects, in partnership with the German Research Foundation
> (Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft, DFG), which contributed approximately
> $772,000.*
> * *
> * The NEH/DFG Enriching Digital Collections Grants support collaborations
> between U.S. and German scholars to develop digitization projects that will
> benefit research in the humanities. Each project was sponsored jointly by an
> American and a German institution, whose activities will be funded by NEH
> and DFG respectively.*
>

Full text here:

http://archiv.twoday.net/stories/6482736/




From athr at LOC.GOV  Fri Aug 27 18:13:18 2010
From: athr at LOC.GOV (Thrasher, Allen)
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 10 14:13:18 -0400
Subject: question re LC Padma=?utf-8?Q?=CC=84vata?=
Message-ID: <161227090219.23782.6769719487436714166.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

If the person who contacted me with questions about the illustrations to the Library of Congress ms of Padmavata (Padmavati, Padumavati) is on the list, could they please contact me again?  In switching from one email system to another our archives have become inaccessible and I have lost the message.

Allen

Allen W. Thrasher, Ph.D.
Senior Reference Librarian and Team Coordinator
South Asia Team
Asian Division
Library of Congress
Washington, DC 20540-4810
USA
tel. 202-707-3732
fax 202-707-1724






From wujastyk at GMAIL.COM  Fri Aug 27 18:17:24 2010
From: wujastyk at GMAIL.COM (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 10 20:17:24 +0200
Subject: Sanskrit texts in TEI/XML format available from SARIT
Message-ID: <161227090222.23782.11080849171331378909.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

I am pleased to announce that the SARIT project is now releasing the
TEI<http://www.tei-c.org/index.xml>-encoded
base files of five major Sanskrit works.  The Text Encoding Initiative (TEI)
is a consortium which collectively develops and maintains a standard for the
representation of texts in digital form.  The texts are:

   1. Brahmapurana
   2. Naradasmriti
   3. Astangahrdayasamita / Vagbhata
   4. Arthasastra / Kautalya
   5. Manusmrti

These are all relatively long works, giving a good and varied sampling of
vocabulary.  The TEI-encoded texts can be downloaded from

   - http://sarit.indology.info/downloads.shtml

where the HTML and PDF versions have been available for some time.  The
PostScript versions have been withdrawn.

These files give excellent, high-quality examples of how to go about
preparing a TEI-compliant file of a Sanskrit text.   Copyright issues have
been checked and the files can be distributed free of charge for scholarly
purposes.

If you are new to the world of the eXtensible Markup Language and
XML<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xml>files and TEI-encoding, one way
to get started is to find an XML-aware editing
program <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xml_editor>.  There are many
available, some are free: there's a comparative table
here<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_XML_editors>.
The oXygen XML editor <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_XML_Editor> is
widely liked and is cheap ($64) for scholarly use.  It can be downloaded and
tried out free.  It is a Java application, so it can run in Windows, Mac OS
X, and Linux.

For more advanced users, please feel free to integrated these TEI files into
your own scholarly projects or databases.  If you develop further tagging or
text-enrichment, SARIT would be glad to have the enhanced TEI files to add
to the repository.

The preparation of these files was made possible by funding from the British
Academy and the British Association of South Asian
Studies<http://www.basas.org.uk/>
.

Enjoy.

Dr Dominik Wujastyk
http://SARIT.indology.info




From wujastyk at GMAIL.COM  Sat Aug 28 06:58:56 2010
From: wujastyk at GMAIL.COM (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 10 08:58:56 +0200
Subject: Sanskrit texts in TEI/XML format available from SARIT
In-Reply-To: <20100828061216.GN29548@proliant.indica-et-buddhica.org>
Message-ID: <161227090228.23782.691004659369139384.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Richard mentions Christian Wedemeyer's *Cary?mel?pakaprad?pa* e-text.  We've
tried negotiating with Christian's publisher about this, but unfortunately
received no answer.  They gave permission for the file to be in the SARIT
database as a searchable text, but not for the public distribution of HTML,
XML or PDF versions.  I live in hope.

Best,
Dominik
SARIT.indology.info


On 28 August 2010 08:12, Richard MAHONEY
<r.mahoney at indica-et-buddhica.org>wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 08:17:24PM +0200, Dominik Wujastyk wrote:
>
> > I am pleased to announce that the SARIT project is now releasing the
> > TEI-encoded base files of five major Sanskrit works.
>
> ...
>
> > These are all relatively long works, giving a good and varied
> > sampling of vocabulary.  The TEI-encoded texts can be downloaded
> > from
> >
> >    - http://sarit.indology.info/downloads.shtml
>
> ...
>
> > These files give excellent, high-quality examples of how to go about
> > preparing a TEI-compliant file of a Sanskrit text.  Copyright issues
> > have been checked and the files can be distributed free of charge
> > for scholarly purposes.
>
> ...
>
> > The preparation of these files was made possible by funding from the
> > British Academy and the British Association of South Asian Studies.
>
> It is good to see that the British Academy &c. have kindly given
> permission for these files to be publicly available. I enjoyed working
> with these materials so it's pleasing that everyone now has full
> access. (Although the most challenging text of all -- Christian's
> Cary?mel?pakaprad?pa -- does not yet seem to be available?) I would
> like to thank Dominik, Shelly, Patrick and Birgit for releasing this
> material.
>
> I would also like to take this opportunity to say that while I am no
> longer with the SARIT Project I still remain open to helping with
> other digital projects. If you are considering something, or if you
> would just like to have a chat about possibilities, please feel free
> to get in touch. My contact details can be found here:
>
>  Richard Mahoney :: Who runs IeB?
>  http://indica-et-buddhica.org/sections/about-ieb/faq/who-runs-site
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>  Richard
>
>
>
> --
> Richard MAHONEY
>
> Littledene, Bay Road, OXFORD 7430, NZ
> PO Box 25, OXFORD 7443
> +64 3 312 1699 / +64 275 829 986
> r.mahoney at indica-et-buddhica.org
> http://indica-et-buddhica.org
> http://camera-antipodea.indica-et-buddhica.com
>




From r.mahoney at INDICA-ET-BUDDHICA.ORG  Sat Aug 28 06:12:16 2010
From: r.mahoney at INDICA-ET-BUDDHICA.ORG (Richard MAHONEY)
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 10 18:12:16 +1200
Subject: Sanskrit texts in TEI/XML format available from SARIT
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=XmnfAwqqcg_EGAKhiVH6-JbBaYhSdDOg06jrK@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <161227090225.23782.4783697808122344425.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear All,

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 08:17:24PM +0200, Dominik Wujastyk wrote:

> I am pleased to announce that the SARIT project is now releasing the
> TEI-encoded base files of five major Sanskrit works.

...

> These are all relatively long works, giving a good and varied
> sampling of vocabulary.  The TEI-encoded texts can be downloaded
> from
> 
>    - http://sarit.indology.info/downloads.shtml
 
...

> These files give excellent, high-quality examples of how to go about
> preparing a TEI-compliant file of a Sanskrit text.  Copyright issues
> have been checked and the files can be distributed free of charge
> for scholarly purposes.

...

> The preparation of these files was made possible by funding from the
> British Academy and the British Association of South Asian Studies.

It is good to see that the British Academy &c. have kindly given
permission for these files to be publicly available. I enjoyed working
with these materials so it's pleasing that everyone now has full
access. (Although the most challenging text of all -- Christian's
Cary?mel?pakaprad?pa -- does not yet seem to be available?) I would
like to thank Dominik, Shelly, Patrick and Birgit for releasing this
material.

I would also like to take this opportunity to say that while I am no
longer with the SARIT Project I still remain open to helping with
other digital projects. If you are considering something, or if you
would just like to have a chat about possibilities, please feel free
to get in touch. My contact details can be found here:

 Richard Mahoney :: Who runs IeB?
 http://indica-et-buddhica.org/sections/about-ieb/faq/who-runs-site



Kind regards,

 Richard



-- 
Richard MAHONEY

Littledene, Bay Road, OXFORD 7430, NZ
PO Box 25, OXFORD 7443
+64 3 312 1699 / +64 275 829 986
r.mahoney at indica-et-buddhica.org
http://indica-et-buddhica.org
http://camera-antipodea.indica-et-buddhica.com




From jmdelire at ULB.AC.BE  Sun Aug 29 14:13:51 2010
From: jmdelire at ULB.AC.BE (Jean-Michel Delire)
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 10 16:13:51 +0200
Subject: Andreas Strobl letters
Message-ID: <161227090231.23782.16336306230461209957.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Members of the list,

I am looking for informations about the Jesuits astronomers who worked in India, and especially about a Bavarian Jesuit called Andreas Strobl (1703-c.1770). Some of his letters are edited in the fifth volume of Joseph St?cklein's Neue Welt-bott. Unhappily, I can't find more than the two first volumes of this book in Belgium and even the British Library has only the four first ones. Could anyone tell me (please understand after checking, for the libraries' descriptions are not always very clear about the volumes they have) which Library has this volume ? I would also be very happy to know if copies are possible (the books are old), at a not too expansive rate. I am especially interested by the letters having numbers 641, 642, 647 to 650, 806 and 807 (all the letters in Der Neue Welt-bott are listed chronologically by a number).

Thank you very much for your help,

Dr Jean Michel Delire,
Lecturer in 'Science and civilization in India - Sanskrit texts' at the IHEb (University of Brussels)




From athr at LOC.GOV  Mon Aug 30 21:30:39 2010
From: athr at LOC.GOV (Thrasher, Allen)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 10 17:30:39 -0400
Subject: Andreas Strobl letters
In-Reply-To: <224724c7a6b1ff1f4e@wm-srv.ulb.ac.be>
Message-ID: <161227090234.23782.2708910629087304542.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

The Library of Congress copy < http://lccn.loc.gov/unk83065507 > is "36 parts in 5 vols.," and gives the date as 1726-1758.  Does this sound complete to you? WorldCat (OCLC Accession Number 649514243) shows a copy in the Staatsbibliothek zu Berlin that goes a bit more extensive, namely "Bd. 1.1726 - 5.1758/61 = T. 1-38[?]."

The word office" after the LOC call number means it's in the Rare Book room.  Getting the letters copied would probably have to be done by our Duplication Service rather than by me on a photocopy machine.  Duplication's charges can be seen off of its homepage < http://www.loc.gov/preserv/pds/ >.  It's possible that they and the Rare Book staff would permit me or one of our student assistants to shoot the letters with a digital camera.

I suspect Duplication's charges would still be less than European institutions'.


Allen

Allen W. Thrasher, Ph.D.
Senior Reference Librarian and Team Coordinator
South Asia Team
Asian Division
Library of Congress
Washington, DC 20540-4810
USA
tel. 202-707-3732
fax 202-707-1724




-----Original Message-----
From: Indology [mailto:INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Jean-Michel Delire
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 10:14 AM
To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Andreas Strobl letters

Dear Members of the list,

I am looking for informations about the Jesuits astronomers who worked in India, and especially about a Bavarian Jesuit called Andreas Strobl (1703-c.1770). Some of his letters are edited in the fifth volume of Joseph St?cklein's Neue Welt-bott. Unhappily, I can't find more than the two first volumes of this book in Belgium and even the British Library has only the four first ones. Could anyone tell me (please understand after checking, for the libraries' descriptions are not always very clear about the volumes they have) which Library has this volume ? I would also be very happy to know if copies are possible (the books are old), at a not too expansive rate. I am especially interested by the letters having numbers 641, 642, 647 to 650, 806 and 807 (all the letters in Der Neue Welt-bott are listed chronologically by a number).

Thank you very much for your help,

Dr Jean Michel Delire,
Lecturer in 'Science and civilization in India - Sanskrit texts' at the IHEb (University of Brussels)




From mkapstei at UCHICAGO.EDU  Tue Aug 31 14:44:41 2010
From: mkapstei at UCHICAGO.EDU (mkapstei at UCHICAGO.EDU)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 10 09:44:41 -0500
Subject: Raamapaalacarita
In-Reply-To: <99590C9FED3040A6A1834C575D7416CD@SlajePC>
Message-ID: <161227090239.23782.7235915336230625827.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Is there an electronic edition of the JASB [I've not
been able to find one], or does
anyone out there possess a scan of Sandhaakara Nandii's
Raamapaalacarita, published therein by H.P. Shastri in
1910?

With thanks in advance for any assistance offered. 

Matthew T. Kapstein
Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies
The University of Chicago Divinity School
Directeur d'?tudes
Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, Paris




From mkapstei at UCHICAGO.EDU  Tue Aug 31 15:25:29 2010
From: mkapstei at UCHICAGO.EDU (mkapstei at UCHICAGO.EDU)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 10 10:25:29 -0500
Subject: Raamapaalacarita
In-Reply-To: <20100831094441.AAJ10625@mstore02.uchicago.edu>
Message-ID: <161227090242.23782.8229357378868031581.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

A subscriber to the list has done me the favor
of sending me a pdf almost instantaneously.
(Sometimes Indology is a real cintaama.niratna!)

Thanks to any who may have formed the intention,
but no need now to ask you to go to any trouble.

Matthew T. Kapstein
Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies
The University of Chicago Divinity School
Directeur d'?tudes
Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, Paris




From slaje at T-ONLINE.DE  Tue Aug 31 12:39:36 2010
From: slaje at T-ONLINE.DE (Walter Slaje)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 10 14:39:36 +0200
Subject: Booklet Publication Announcement
Message-ID: <161227090237.23782.5283874375473409774.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Walter Slaje, "N?ti n?ti". On the meaning of an Upani?adic citation of some renown in Hindu texts and Western minds. (Akademie der Wissenschaften und der Literatur. Geistes- und sozialwissenschaftliche Klasse. Jahrgang 2010, Nr. 4). Mainz 2010. 52 S. EUR 10,--

ISBN 978-3-515-09799-4



Contents



Overview

1 Translational history of n?ti n?ti

1.1 Background

1.2 Exaltation

1.3 ?a?kara

1.4 Modern Philology

1.4.1 n?ti n?ti: a pair of duplicate negative expressions

1.4.1.1 Construing in line with ?a?kara

1.4.1.2 Construing independently

1.4.1.3 Amalgamations

1.4.2 n?ti n?ti as a syntagm with a positive meaning

1.4.2.1 Alfred Hillebrandt

1.4.2.2 Karl Friedrich Geldner

2 The n?ti n?ti passages in the B?U

2.1 An artificial n?ti n?ti construction

2.2 Syntax and government of the syntagm n? ?ti n? ?ti: a positive expression

2.3 A contemporary exposition in the Madhuk???a

2.3.1 ?de??

2.3.1.1 One-word ?de??s

2.3.1.2 Sentence ?de??s

2.3.1.2.1 Predicative nouns

2.3.1.2.2 Verbal predicates

2.3.1.3 Methodical ?de??s

2.3.1.4 Determination of n?ti n?ti as sentence ?de??

2.3.2 Parsing

2.3.2.1 Construing the antecedents

2.3.3 Naming and essence

2.4 n?ti n?ti in the Y?j?avalkyak???a

2.4.1 n?ti n?ti as a positive conceptual substitute for ??tm?n?

2.4.2 n?ti n?ti compared to ?tat tvam asi?

2.4.3 n?ti n?ti in context

2.4.3.1 The syntax of s? e??

2.4.3.2 The phrasing s? e?? n? ?ti n? ?ti ?tm? in context

2.4.3.2.1 Translation proposal

2.4.3.3 The concluding part

2.4.3.4 One n?ti n?ti paragraph translated in context

2.4.4 In quest of parallels

3 Summary

------------------------------
Prof. Dr. Walter Slaje
Hermann-L?ns-Str. 1
D-99425 Weimar
(Germany)
www.indologie.uni-halle.de

Ego ex animi mei sententia spondeo ac polliceor
studia humanitatis impigro labore culturum et provecturum
non sordidi lucri causa nec ad vanam captandam gloriam,
sed quo magis veritas propagetur et lux eius, qua salus
humani generis continetur, clarius effulgeat.
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