AW: No longer Language barriers --- financial barriers

[Gruenendahl, Reinhold]

Since Professor Franco indicated that he was too busy for proving his earlier
claims it would indeed be too much to ask him to substantiate his latest
charges.

[A pedantic correction: We met in Berlin on one or two occasions, and I
remember them as rather pleasant.]

 

Reinhold Grünendahl

 

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Von: Indology im Auftrag von franco at RZ.UNI-LEIPZIG.DE
Gesendet: Sa 14.03.2009 23:47
An: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk
Betreff: No longer Language barriers --- financial barriers



I guess I was wrong; unfortunately, not everybody had enough of this. 
So here we go for one more round, hopefully the last. I apologize for 
responding a bit late; I was busy during the last few days.

Dr. Gruenendahl is right. Two times are not enough to establish a 
pattern. Perhaps next time he will side with me against a point made 
by Prof. Slaje, but I somehow doubt it.

What I object to, of course, is not the fact that he takes sides in a 
discussion, but to his aggressive manner, malicious distortion of what 
I said, his use of ad hominem arguments, and cheap psychological 
analysis of the type ?Franco writes because he wants to draw attention 
to himself, undeserved attention.? In the same vein I could say, e.g., 
?Gruenendahl?s offensiveness is only due to some personal frustration, 
deserved frustration.? However, I do not want to regress to 
Kindergarten level.

Some of you have voiced the concern that the list has become a place 
for personal and private battles. I can assure you that there was 
absolutely nothing personal in my remark about the Glasenapp 
Foundation. Furthermore, Dr. Gruenendahl and I do not know each other; 
at least I do not remember ever meeting him.

Further, I do not think that Dr. Gruenendahl *purposefully* distorts 
what I said, but that his vision is blurred by some agenda. The same 
kind of distortion, at times even spiteful criticism he displays in 
some of his published work, notably in his attempt to exonerate German 
Indology from the charge of having been affiliated with National 
Socialism. There was a discussion about this last year on the list.

With best wishes,
Eli Franco

Quoting "Gruenendahl, Reinhold" <gruenen at SUB.UNI-GOETTINGEN.DE>:

> On 9 Mar 2009 at 21:09, franco at RZ.UNI-LEIPZIG.DE wrote:
>
>> I will try to refresh Dr. Gruenendahl's memory off the list. I am sure
>
>> everybody had enough of this by now.
>
>
>
> Apologies to everybody who has had enough of this.
>
> I thank Professor Franco for his kind assistance in refreshing my memory.
As
> I see it, the significance of the case he referred to offline lies not so
> much in my agreement with Walter Slaje (actually I had endorsed his
> forwarding of third-party information), but in my perceived disagreement
with
> Professor Franco, who was not altogether disinterested in the case and its
> decision before a German court. I understand that this is the reason why he
> would rather not discuss it in public.
>
> So we still are where we were yesterday: I would have to consider Professor
> Franco's remark a mere fabrication unless he comes up with evidence that is
> presentable to the public, preferably a case in which he had no personal
> interest, if that isn't asking too much. It goes without saying that at
least
> one more example would be needed to get anywhere near the
"whenever"-pattern
> insinuated in his remark.
>
> Talking about patterns, there is another one that seems all too familiar:
"I
> have made my point, and now that I have been asked to prove it I am sure
> everyone had enough of it."
>
> Reinhold Grünendahl
>
> *****************************************
>
> On 9 Mar 2009 at 17:15, franco at RZ.UNI-LEIPZIG.DE wrote:
>
>> It is touching to see how whenever Prof. Slaje is involved in a debate
>
>> Dr. Gruenendahl comes to his rescue.
>
>> Best wishes
>
>> EF
>
>
>
>



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