From gthomgt at ADELPHIA.NET  Tue Nov  1 16:51:35 2005
From: gthomgt at ADELPHIA.NET (George Thompson)
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 05 11:51:35 -0500
Subject: Tilak reference?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.WNT.4.63.0511011557130.2160@anat-lws119>
Message-ID: <161227077002.23782.16874727821531478838.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear List,

I am in the process of reading the proofs of an article that I have 
written.  The editors would like a full reference to the following.

In Keith's *Religion & Philosophy of the Veda & Upanisads* vol. p. 81 n. 
2, there is reference to an article by Tilak in *The Bhandarkar 
Commemorative Volume*, pp. 32 ff.  Would anyone on the list know full 
title of the volume, with date, the name of the article and the pages 
numbers occupied by it?

Thanks in advance for help.

George Thompson

>




From magier at COLUMBIA.EDU  Tue Nov  1 19:09:32 2005
From: magier at COLUMBIA.EDU (David Magier)
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 05 14:09:32 -0500
Subject: Tilak reference?
In-Reply-To: <43679D17.6030006@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <161227077005.23782.4288206388877272531.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

This is probably a reference to:

     Commemorative essays presented to Sir Ramkrishna Gopal Bhandarkar.
     Poona: Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute, 1917

That book was reprinted in 1977 as:

     R.G. Bhandarkar commemoration volume.
     Delhi: Bharatiya Publishing House, 1977

Since Keith was published in 1925, his reference to Tilak's article 
appearing on "pp. 32 ff" must refer to the first (1917) edition of the 
commemorative volume. If someone could take a look at their library's copy 
of that edition, they could supply the exact citation for Tilak's article. 
Of course, the same Tilak article must appear in the 1977 reprint as well, 
but the pagination is likely different.

Hope this helps.

David Magier
Columbia Univ. Libraries

--On Tuesday, November 1, 2005 11:51 AM -0500 George Thompson 
<gthomgt at ADELPHIA.NET> wrote:

> Dear List,
>
> I am in the process of reading the proofs of an article that I have
> written.  The editors would like a full reference to the following.
>
> In Keith's *Religion & Philosophy of the Veda & Upanisads* vol. p. 81 n.
> 2, there is reference to an article by Tilak in *The Bhandarkar
> Commemorative Volume*, pp. 32 ff.  Would anyone on the list know full
> title of the volume, with date, the name of the article and the pages
> numbers occupied by it?
>
> Thanks in advance for help.
>
> George Thompson
>
>>




From mmdesh at UMICH.EDU  Tue Nov  1 19:17:29 2005
From: mmdesh at UMICH.EDU (Madhav Deshpande)
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 05 14:17:29 -0500
Subject: Tilak reference?
Message-ID: <161227077007.23782.13572997768891667096.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

I don't have access to the original publication of this piece by Tilak, but this article titled "Chaldean and the Indian Vedas" (originally published in the Bhandarkar Commemorative Volume) was reprinted in his posthumous book Vedic Chronology and Vedanga Jyotisha, 1925, Pune: Messrs Tilak Brothers, Gaikwar Wada.  If you need, I can give page numbers from this publication.


Madhav M. Deshpande


-----Original Message-----
From: Indology on behalf of George Thompson
Sent: Tue 11/1/2005 11:51 AM
To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk
Subject: Tilak reference?
 
Dear List,

I am in the process of reading the proofs of an article that I have 
written.  The editors would like a full reference to the following.

In Keith's *Religion & Philosophy of the Veda & Upanisads* vol. p. 81 n. 
2, there is reference to an article by Tilak in *The Bhandarkar 
Commemorative Volume*, pp. 32 ff.  Would anyone on the list know full 
title of the volume, with date, the name of the article and the pages 
numbers occupied by it?

Thanks in advance for help.

George Thompson

>




From ucgadkw at UCL.AC.UK  Tue Nov  1 15:58:20 2005
From: ucgadkw at UCL.AC.UK (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 05 15:58:20 +0000
Subject: Indian History job at Oxford (fwd)
Message-ID: <161227077000.23782.10117910792471077343.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

NB: I am asked to add that people who read Indology should focus on the 
fact that the job is open to people in all periods, and not be discouraged 
by the "especially welcome" wording?


--------------------------------------------------------------------

http://www.admin.ox.ac.uk/ps/gp/current/http001.shtml

UNIVERSITY OF OXFORD

Professorship of Indian History and Culture



Applications are invited for the above post, tenable with effect from
1 October 2006, or such date as may be arranged. This chair was
created by means of a munificent benefaction from the Government of
India. The University interprets History and Culture widely, to
include any historical period ancient, medieval, or modern, and any
cultural field, although on this occasion applications would be
particularly welcome from scholars in the field of nineteenth-and
twentieth-century Indian history. A non-stipendiary fellowship at St
Cross College is attached to the professorship. Applications (ten
copies, or one only from overseas candidates), naming three persons
who have agreed to act as referees on this occasion, should be
received not later than Monday, 19 December 2005 by the Registrar,
University Offices, Wellington Square, Oxford OX1 2JD, from whom
further particulars may be obtained. Further particulars may also be
accessed on the Web (http://www.admin.ox.ac.uk/fp/).

--------------------------------------------------------------------




From athr at LOC.GOV  Tue Nov  1 23:14:18 2005
From: athr at LOC.GOV (Allen W Thrasher)
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 05 18:14:18 -0500
Subject: Hindi dissertation on Bhasa
Message-ID: <161227077009.23782.2153277475684568874.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

A patron in India is trying to locate a Hindi dissertation on Bhasa entitled in his transcription " Bhas Natakchakram me charitra vidhan ek samikshatmak addhyan," which he has no more information on.  Does anyone by chance know anything more of this?  I will be consulting the bibliographies of our books on Bhasa and various reference works on Indian dissertations, but I wondered if anyone knew offhand.  
 
An argument for the GOI commissioning a comprehensive work on Indian dissertations, preferably IMHO both paper and online.  The same for other South Asian governments.
 
Allen
 
 
Allen W. Thrasher, Ph.D., Senior Reference Librarian
South Asia Team, Asian Division
Library of Congress, Jefferson Building 150
101 Independence Ave., S.E.
Washington, DC 20540-4810
tel. 202-707-3732; fax 202-707-1724; athr at loc.gov
The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of the Library of Congress.




From gthomgt at ADELPHIA.NET  Wed Nov  2 01:45:34 2005
From: gthomgt at ADELPHIA.NET (George Thompson)
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 05 20:45:34 -0500
Subject: Tilak reference?
In-Reply-To: <37BB7008218B6145BA7AADC53FC9CE253227A2@lsa-m5.lsa.adsroot.itcs.umich.edu>
Message-ID: <161227077012.23782.16442997480646836296.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Many thanks to Madhav and David.  This is the article that I need to 
cite.  Madhav, would you please forward the page numbers from that 
publication when you have the time?  What is of interest in this article 
is that it claims that the Babylonian god Tiamat is referred to at AVZ 
5.13.4 with the word *taimAta'*, apparently a water-snake of some sort.  
The article also claims that the Babylonian goddess Apsu  is referred to 
in a number of Vedic apsu-compounds.

As it turns out, an intrepid comparatist has recently used these, um, 
fanciful etymologies to support his claim that there was  a significant 
diffusion channel connecting Babylonian mythology not only to the Indus 
Valley Culture, but also to Vedic.  My article attempts to debunk this 
silliness.

Also, another curiosity in this AVZ hymn: the presence of the obscure 
term *tAbu'va* at AVZ 5.13.10, which seems to refer to another snake, or 
a snake-demon, or snake-poison.  Nevertheless, it used to be suggested 
that it is a certain Polynesian word, which has surfaced in English as 
"taboo." 

Human imagination is a marvelous thing!

Thanks again to David and Madhav,

George

Madhav Deshpande wrote:

>I don't have access to the original publication of this piece by Tilak, but this article titled "Chaldean and the Indian Vedas" (originally published in the Bhandarkar Commemorative Volume) was reprinted in his posthumous book Vedic Chronology and Vedanga Jyotisha, 1925, Pune: Messrs Tilak Brothers, Gaikwar Wada.  If you need, I can give page numbers from this publication.
>
>
>Madhav M. Deshpande
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Indology on behalf of George Thompson
>Sent: Tue 11/1/2005 11:51 AM
>To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk
>Subject: Tilak reference?
> 
>Dear List,
>
>I am in the process of reading the proofs of an article that I have 
>written.  The editors would like a full reference to the following.
>
>In Keith's *Religion & Philosophy of the Veda & Upanisads* vol. p. 81 n. 
>2, there is reference to an article by Tilak in *The Bhandarkar 
>Commemorative Volume*, pp. 32 ff.  Would anyone on the list know full 
>title of the volume, with date, the name of the article and the pages 
>numbers occupied by it?
>
>Thanks in advance for help.
>
>George Thompson
>
>  
>
>
>
>  
>




From mmdesh at UMICH.EDU  Wed Nov  2 03:20:19 2005
From: mmdesh at UMICH.EDU (Madhav Deshpande)
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 05 22:20:19 -0500
Subject: Tilak reference?
Message-ID: <161227077014.23782.5915870359783421332.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

"Chaldean and Indian Vedas" by B.G. Tilak, originally published in the Bhandarkar Commemoration Volume, 1917, reprinted in B.G. Tilak's posthumously published book: Vedic Chronology and Vedanga Jyotisha, 1925, published by Messrs Tilak Bros, Gaikwar Wada, Pune, pp. 125-144, followed by "opinions of well-known Assyrian scholars" on this article.
 
Madhav M. Deshpande

*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Professor of Sanskrit & Linguistics
Department of Asian Languages & Cultures
The University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109-1285, USA

________________________________

From: Indology on behalf of George Thompson
Sent: Tue 11/1/2005 8:45 PM
To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Tilak reference?



Many thanks to Madhav and David.  This is the article that I need to
cite.  Madhav, would you please forward the page numbers from that
publication when you have the time?  What is of interest in this article
is that it claims that the Babylonian god Tiamat is referred to at AVZ
5.13.4 with the word *taimAta'*, apparently a water-snake of some sort. 
The article also claims that the Babylonian goddess Apsu  is referred to
in a number of Vedic apsu-compounds.

As it turns out, an intrepid comparatist has recently used these, um,
fanciful etymologies to support his claim that there was  a significant
diffusion channel connecting Babylonian mythology not only to the Indus
Valley Culture, but also to Vedic.  My article attempts to debunk this
silliness.

Also, another curiosity in this AVZ hymn: the presence of the obscure
term *tAbu'va* at AVZ 5.13.10, which seems to refer to another snake, or
a snake-demon, or snake-poison.  Nevertheless, it used to be suggested
that it is a certain Polynesian word, which has surfaced in English as
"taboo."

Human imagination is a marvelous thing!

Thanks again to David and Madhav,

George

Madhav Deshpande wrote:

>I don't have access to the original publication of this piece by Tilak, but this article titled "Chaldean and the Indian Vedas" (originally published in the Bhandarkar Commemorative Volume) was reprinted in his posthumous book Vedic Chronology and Vedanga Jyotisha, 1925, Pune: Messrs Tilak Brothers, Gaikwar Wada.  If you need, I can give page numbers from this publication.
>
>
>Madhav M. Deshpande
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Indology on behalf of George Thompson
>Sent: Tue 11/1/2005 11:51 AM
>To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk
>Subject: Tilak reference?
>
>Dear List,
>
>I am in the process of reading the proofs of an article that I have
>written.  The editors would like a full reference to the following.
>
>In Keith's *Religion & Philosophy of the Veda & Upanisads* vol. p. 81 n.
>2, there is reference to an article by Tilak in *The Bhandarkar
>Commemorative Volume*, pp. 32 ff.  Would anyone on the list know full
>title of the volume, with date, the name of the article and the pages
>numbers occupied by it?
>
>Thanks in advance for help.
>
>George Thompson
>
> 
>
>
>
> 
>




From arlo.griffiths at LET.LEIDENUNIV.NL  Wed Nov  2 07:35:44 2005
From: arlo.griffiths at LET.LEIDENUNIV.NL (Arlo Griffiths)
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 05 08:35:44 +0100
Subject: Tilak reference?
In-Reply-To: <43681A3E.2090507@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <161227077017.23782.16601981827021423571.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

On the latter word (taabuuva-), and the influence it has had on  
several scholars' imagination, see the following article:

Abhijit Ghosh, Problems in Determining Austric Lexical Elements in  
Sanskrit: a Case from the Atharva-Veda. In: A. Griffiths & J.E.M.  
Houben (eds.), The Vedas: Texts, Language & Ritual, Groningen:  
Forsten [GOS XX], 2004, 217--236.

Arlo Griffiths


On Nov 2, 2005, at 2:45 AM, George Thompson wrote:

> Many thanks to Madhav and David.  This is the article that I need  
> to cite.  Madhav, would you please forward the page numbers from  
> that publication when you have the time?  What is of interest in  
> this article is that it claims that the Babylonian god Tiamat is  
> referred to at AVZ 5.13.4 with the word *taimAta'*, apparently a  
> water-snake of some sort.  The article also claims that the  
> Babylonian goddess Apsu  is referred to in a number of Vedic apsu- 
> compounds.
>
> As it turns out, an intrepid comparatist has recently used these,  
> um, fanciful etymologies to support his claim that there was  a  
> significant diffusion channel connecting Babylonian mythology not  
> only to the Indus Valley Culture, but also to Vedic.  My article  
> attempts to debunk this silliness.
>
> Also, another curiosity in this AVZ hymn: the presence of the  
> obscure term *tAbu'va* at AVZ 5.13.10, which seems to refer to  
> another snake, or a snake-demon, or snake-poison.  Nevertheless, it  
> used to be suggested that it is a certain Polynesian word, which  
> has surfaced in English as "taboo."
> Human imagination is a marvelous thing!
>
> Thanks again to David and Madhav,
>
> George
>
> Madhav Deshpande wrote:
>
>> I don't have access to the original publication of this piece by  
>> Tilak, but this article titled "Chaldean and the Indian  
>> Vedas" (originally published in the Bhandarkar Commemorative  
>> Volume) was reprinted in his posthumous book Vedic Chronology and  
>> Vedanga Jyotisha, 1925, Pune: Messrs Tilak Brothers, Gaikwar  
>> Wada.  If you need, I can give page numbers from this publication.
>>
>>
>> Madhav M. Deshpande
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Indology on behalf of George Thompson
>> Sent: Tue 11/1/2005 11:51 AM
>> To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk
>> Subject: Tilak reference?
>> Dear List,
>>
>> I am in the process of reading the proofs of an article that I  
>> have written.  The editors would like a full reference to the  
>> following.
>>
>> In Keith's *Religion & Philosophy of the Veda & Upanisads* vol. p.  
>> 81 n. 2, there is reference to an article by Tilak in *The  
>> Bhandarkar Commemorative Volume*, pp. 32 ff.  Would anyone on the  
>> list know full title of the volume, with date, the name of the  
>> article and the pages numbers occupied by it?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for help.
>>
>> George Thompson
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>




From magier at COLUMBIA.EDU  Wed Nov  2 15:10:51 2005
From: magier at COLUMBIA.EDU (David Magier)
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 05 10:10:51 -0500
Subject: Hindi dissertation on Bhasa
In-Reply-To: <s367b15a.044@loc.gov>
Message-ID: <161227077019.23782.2786796946366892349.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Allen,
a side note about Indian dissertations: In a conversation a few months ago, 
with Dr. T.A.V. Murthy (Director of INFLIBNET/UGC, Ahmedabad) and with Dr. 
V.S. Cholin (akso with INFLIBNET), I was told that they have begun to put 
in place a nation-wide dissertation database, which *might* prospectively 
include full-texts of the dissertations. I don't know if I have the details 
exactly, but I do know they are working on something of this sort. (A 
version of the Inflibnet's Theses Database can be found at:
<http://www.inflibnet.ac.in/dbase/thesesDb.jsp>, but I have not been able 
to get any records to display...

David Magier
Columbia University

--On Tuesday, November 1, 2005 6:14 PM -0500 Allen W Thrasher 
<athr at LOC.GOV> wrote:

> A patron in India is trying to locate a Hindi dissertation on Bhasa
> entitled in his transcription " Bhas Natakchakram me charitra vidhan ek
> samikshatmak addhyan," which he has no more information on.  Does anyone
> by chance know anything more of this?  I will be consulting the
> bibliographies of our books on Bhasa and various reference works on
> Indian dissertations, but I wondered if anyone knew offhand.
> An argument for the GOI commissioning a comprehensive work on Indian
> dissertations, preferably IMHO both paper and online.  The same for other
> South Asian governments.
> Allen
>
>
> Allen W. Thrasher, Ph.D., Senior Reference Librarian
> South Asia Team, Asian Division
> Library of Congress, Jefferson Building 150
> 101 Independence Ave., S.E.
> Washington, DC 20540-4810
> tel. 202-707-3732; fax 202-707-1724; athr at loc.gov
> The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of the Library of
> Congress.




From j_e_m_houben at YAHOO.COM  Thu Nov  3 00:45:05 2005
From: j_e_m_houben at YAHOO.COM (Jan E.M. Houben)
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 05 16:45:05 -0800
Subject: Exhibition on Hinduism with sections on Adivasis, Vedic ritual
In-Reply-To: <20051102235525.27180.qmail@web30708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <161227077024.23782.107984027025659336.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

An exhibition on Hindu religion called "De Goden
Verzoeken", planned by South Asia curator B.
Meulenbeld, will start on 17 December 2005 in the
Tropenmuseum, Amsterdam. Thanks to some items of
my collection of sacrificial utensils there is a
section on Vedic ritual (mainly on Soma-pressing
and on the Pravargya), illustrated with brief
videoclips from recent performances in India. 
Jan Houben

Amsterdam, 19 September 2005

Dealing with the Gods at the Tropenmuseum
Exhibition about Rituals in the Hindu Religion
17 December 2005 to 10 September 2006

On 17 December 2005 the Tropenmuseum in Amsterdam
launches a new exhibition entitled Dealing with
the Gods - Rituals in Hindu Religion. The show
introduces visitors to the different gods,
traditions, fragrances and colours of Hindu
religion. In the show the public is invited to
discover the Hindu deities. Following the path of
wealth, wisdom or love, visitors make their way
through the Hindu world. Hundreds of exhibits are
presented, ranging from domestic shrines, prints
and objects to temple statues made especially for
the exhibition in India. A highlight of the
museum collection is a figure of the Hindu sun
god Surya which is one thousand years old.

The central theme of the exhibition is contact
between Hindus and their gods. There are many
different rituals in the religion that make
contact possible. Exuberant celebrations mark
festivals such as Holi and Divali, other customs
relate to birth, marriage and death, while many
simple practices are for everyday use. Because
whether it?s in the temple or at work, at home or
in the car, for Hindus, the gods are everywhere.

With India as the backdrop, the imagery of
Bollywood and the hundreds of fascinating objects
presented in the exhibition provide a
magnificently colourful and theatrical show.
Rarely shown exhibits from the museum?s own
collection are displayed alongside remarkable
loans from Pitt Rivers Museum in Oxford and the
Victoria & Albert Museum in London, as well as
various private collections. The classical Indian
objects in the exhibition are accompanied by a
range of audiovisual material. Visitors can
imagine themselves on the banks of the Ganges,
for example, the holiest river for Hindus. The
exhibition contains unique sections on the
Adivasis, and on the ritual of the Vedic people,
which bring the visitor back to the stone age.
Since Martin Haug imported Vedic ritual objects
from India to Europe in the nineteenth century,
this is probably the first time that Vedic ritual
and ancient techniques it conserves (such as the
making of fire from rubbing wooden sticks) are
represented in a Western museum. 

The Path of Love
Visitors have a choice of three personal routes
through life as a theme with which to experience
the exhibition: the path of wisdom (linked to the
god Ganesha), the path of love (linked to the god
Krishna) or the path of wealth (linked to the
goddess Lakshmi). Each path provides a key with
which to start interactive presentations. This
allows visitors to participate in rituals, to
receive small (digital) gifts and to find extra
information. Each path allows visitors to learn
how to Deal with the Gods.

Museum Night Preview 
This coming 5 November is Museum Night and at the
Tropenmuseum the theme is Indian Delight. The
museum will be full of all things Indian,
offering a preview of Dealing with the Gods. For
more information about the programme see
www.n8.nl.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

For more information and visual material please
contact the Tropenmuseum, Anna Brolsma, T. +31
(0)20 - 5688418 or e-mail a.brolsma at kit.nl.

*** *** *** *** ***


Jan E.M. Houben,
Directeur d'Etudes,
Sources et Histoire de la Tradition Sanskrite
Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes,
A la Sorbonne,
45-47, rue des Ecoles,
75005 Paris -- France. 
J_E_M_Houben at yahoo.com
Homepage: http://home.planet.nl/~j.e.m.houben
Website: www.jyotistoma.nl


		
__________________________________ 
Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click.
http://farechase.yahoo.com




From ucgadkw at UCL.AC.UK  Wed Nov  2 16:55:02 2005
From: ucgadkw at UCL.AC.UK (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 05 16:55:02 +0000
Subject: Philosophy conference announcement, Mexico 3/2006
Message-ID: <161227077022.23782.7846593836786040575.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 01:34:57 +0000
From: Horacio Francisco Arganis Juarez <arganis at todito.com>


Convocation

The Institute of Philosophical Studies A. C., it is allowed to invite to 
all the investigators and scholars of social sciences to participate in :


1? International Encounter, Philosophy of the Religion in a Globalizade Postmodern World
Saltillo, Coah. Mexico. March 30-31, 2006.

Masterful Conferences

1.- The Religion and Bio?tic ( abortion and euthanasy)
Dr. Horacio El?as Arganis Diaz Leal.

2.- Religion and human rights.
Monsignor Ra?l Vera.

3.- Buddhism and Hinduism, theirAxiological contributions to theModern world.
Mtro. Henry Williams.

4.- Dr.Elio Masferrer Kan
Secretary of the Latin American Association for the Study of Religion.

Works Tables or Symposias

The Philosophies of Religion from India and their proposals.
The Theology of the Liberation and Perspectives.
The Right of religious Diversity in a globalizade world and postmodernity.
The Big Challenges of the Catholic Church.
Fundamentalist, Islamism and Terrorism.
The overpassing the antinomy Faith-Reason. (Religion ?science before the scientific-technological advances of the contemporary world.
The theological-proposalbefore a axiol?gical convulsed society.
Holocaust and Judaism to sixty years from II World War.
Reforms and Protestantism.
Esoterism and animism in the modern world.

Space open to suggest symposia.
There will be translators .

Inform:
Horacio Francisco Arganis Ju?rez
Coordinader:
arganis at todito.com
(844) 417-7-56




From m_orelskaya at YAHOO.COM  Thu Nov  3 15:22:39 2005
From: m_orelskaya at YAHOO.COM (marina orelskaya)
Date: Thu, 03 Nov 05 07:22:39 -0800
Subject: source of Sanskrit half-;sloka in Hindi piece
In-Reply-To: <EE35F5DC-8921-4384-B7B9-437F0849EFFA@let.leidenuniv.nl>
Message-ID: <161227077029.23782.5683139251682134832.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Arlo,

in brahmavaivarta purANa, there is a dialogue between
ga-NgA and kR.S.Na, in which kR.S.Na describes the
kali yuga as the following:

kaleh pa~NcasahasrA.Ni var.SA.Ni ti.S.Tha bhutale /
pApAni pApino yAni tubhyAM dasyanti snAnataH //

And also:

kaler daSasahasrA.Ni madbhaktaH santi bhutale /
ekavar.Na bhavi.Syanti madbhakte.Su gate.Su ca //

Or something like that... Sorry, I don't have the text
or exact references with me.
Hope, this helps.

Marina.
 
Dr. Marina V. Orelskaya
c/o Department of Performing Arts
University of Pune
Ganeshkhind
Pune 411007
India


--- Arlo Griffiths <arlo.griffiths at LET.LEIDENUNIV.NL>
wrote:

> Dear colleagues,
> 
> A graduate student in my department is studying the
> following theatre  
> piece by .Thaakur Jagmohan Si.mh (1857-1899):
> "Huqqevaale kaa  
> naa.tak", published in .Thaakur Jagmohan Si.mh
> Racnaavalii 1. 2001.  
> Raaypur: Chattisga.rh lok sa.msk.rti anusandhaan
> sa.msthaan (written  
> c. 1880; unpublished during his lifetime).
> 
> At a certain point in the dialogue, a wise man cites
> the following  
> half-;sloka to prove that dharma and devataas are no
> longer what they  
> used to be:
> 
> kalaud.r.m;sa sahasraa.ni vi.s.nusti.s.thati
> mediniim-bhuutalecaa
> 
> The word division is as given in the text. Does
> anyone understand how  
> to read or correct d.r.m;sa, which I presume must be
> separated from  
> kalau? Does anyone understand bhuutalecaa, or at
> least the caa part?  
> Does anyone know the source of this (half) verse?
> 
> With thanks,
> 
> Arlo Griffiths
> Instituut Kern, Universiteit Leiden
> Postbus 9515
> 2300 RA Leiden, the Netherlands
> 
> phone: +31-(0)71-5272622
> fax: +31-(0)71-5272956
> email: <arlo.griffiths at let.leidenuniv.nl>
> 



		
__________________________________ 
Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click.
http://farechase.yahoo.com




From arlo.griffiths at LET.LEIDENUNIV.NL  Thu Nov  3 14:04:55 2005
From: arlo.griffiths at LET.LEIDENUNIV.NL (Arlo Griffiths)
Date: Thu, 03 Nov 05 15:04:55 +0100
Subject: source of Sanskrit half-;sloka in Hindi piece
Message-ID: <161227077027.23782.858027278773421770.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear colleagues,

A graduate student in my department is studying the following theatre  
piece by .Thaakur Jagmohan Si.mh (1857-1899): "Huqqevaale kaa  
naa.tak", published in .Thaakur Jagmohan Si.mh Racnaavalii 1. 2001.  
Raaypur: Chattisga.rh lok sa.msk.rti anusandhaan sa.msthaan (written  
c. 1880; unpublished during his lifetime).

At a certain point in the dialogue, a wise man cites the following  
half-;sloka to prove that dharma and devataas are no longer what they  
used to be:

kalaud.r.m;sa sahasraa.ni vi.s.nusti.s.thati mediniim-bhuutalecaa

The word division is as given in the text. Does anyone understand how  
to read or correct d.r.m;sa, which I presume must be separated from  
kalau? Does anyone understand bhuutalecaa, or at least the caa part?  
Does anyone know the source of this (half) verse?

With thanks,

Arlo Griffiths
Instituut Kern, Universiteit Leiden
Postbus 9515
2300 RA Leiden, the Netherlands

phone: +31-(0)71-5272622
fax: +31-(0)71-5272956
email: <arlo.griffiths at let.leidenuniv.nl>




From ucgadkw at UCL.AC.UK  Thu Nov  3 16:04:21 2005
From: ucgadkw at UCL.AC.UK (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Thu, 03 Nov 05 16:04:21 +0000
Subject: Historical Archives of Indo-Iranian Journal and J. of Indian              Philosophy
Message-ID: <161227077032.23782.6575779519344861886.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

These have reappeared on the Springer website.  Full back issues to the 
beginning of publication.

See

IIJ:

   http://tinyurl.com/ccjrb

and

JIP:

   http://tinyurl.com/9capp

You do need a license/university license/Athens password to access the 
full text of these archives.

DW




From mmdesh at UMICH.EDU  Fri Nov  4 11:19:42 2005
From: mmdesh at UMICH.EDU (Madhav Deshpande)
Date: Fri, 04 Nov 05 06:19:42 -0500
Subject: source of Sanskrit half-;sloka in Hindi piece
Message-ID: <161227077037.23782.1597502744569134794.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

The expression t.r.m"satsahasraa.ni  is obviously tri.m"satsahasraa.ni.  While the word bhuutale does fit the meter, the word mediniim, though metrically ok, is ungrammatical, and medinyaam is metrically not ok.
 
Madhav M. Deshpande

________________________________

From: Indology on behalf of Yuko Yokochi
Sent: Fri 11/4/2005 5:27 AM
To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk
Subject: Re: source of Sanskrit half-;sloka in Hindi piece


Dear Arlo,

>kalaud.r.m;sa sahasraa.ni vi.s.nusti.s.thati mediniim-bhuutalecaa
The text can be corrected to

kalau t.r.m"satsahasraa.ni vi.s.nus ti.s.thati bhuutale (or medinyaam)|

'In Kali period Vi.s.nu stays on earth for thirty thousands years.'

mediniim-bhuutale caa does not fit the "sloka meter.

I cannot find the source of it.

Yuko Yokochi




From somadevah at AOL.COM  Sat Nov  5 01:30:20 2005
From: somadevah at AOL.COM (somadeva vasudeva)
Date: Fri, 04 Nov 05 17:30:20 -0800
Subject: source of Sanskrit half-;sloka in Hindi piece
In-Reply-To: <EE35F5DC-8921-4384-B7B9-437F0849EFFA@let.leidenuniv.nl>
Message-ID: <161227077043.23782.3293125619238541811.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

I would guess it might be:

kalau t.r.m"sasahasraa.ni vi.s.nus ti.s.thati medinyaa.m bhuutale vaa

But that is unmetrical, hence maybe emend to:

kalau tri.m"sasahasraa.ni vi.s.nus ti.s.thati bhuutale

meaning: "In the Kali [era] Vishnu will remain on earth for thirty  
thousand [years only?]"

regards,

Somadeva Vasudeva

On 3 Nov 2005, at 06:04, Arlo Griffiths wrote:

> Dear colleagues,
>
> A graduate student in my department is studying the following  
> theatre piece by .Thaakur Jagmohan Si.mh (1857-1899): "Huqqevaale  
> kaa naa.tak", published in .Thaakur Jagmohan Si.mh Racnaavalii 1.  
> 2001. Raaypur: Chattisga.rh lok sa.msk.rti anusandhaan sa.msthaan  
> (written c. 1880; unpublished during his lifetime).
>
> At a certain point in the dialogue, a wise man cites the following  
> half-;sloka to prove that dharma and devataas are no longer what  
> they used to be:
>
> kalaud.r.m;sa sahasraa.ni vi.s.nusti.s.thati mediniim-bhuutalecaa
>
> The word division is as given in the text. Does anyone understand  
> how to read or correct d.r.m;sa, which I presume must be separated  
> from kalau? Does anyone understand bhuutalecaa, or at least the caa  
> part? Does anyone know the source of this (half) verse?
>
> With thanks,
>
> Arlo Griffiths
> Instituut Kern, Universiteit Leiden
> Postbus 9515
> 2300 RA Leiden, the Netherlands
>
> phone: +31-(0)71-5272622
> fax: +31-(0)71-5272956
> email: <arlo.griffiths at let.leidenuniv.nl>
>




From yyokochi at BUN.KYOTO-U.AC.JP  Fri Nov  4 10:27:57 2005
From: yyokochi at BUN.KYOTO-U.AC.JP (Yuko Yokochi)
Date: Fri, 04 Nov 05 19:27:57 +0900
Subject: source of Sanskrit half-;sloka in Hindi piece
In-Reply-To: <EE35F5DC-8921-4384-B7B9-437F0849EFFA@let.leidenuniv.nl>
Message-ID: <161227077034.23782.5039586071737230117.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Arlo,

>kalaud.r.m;sa sahasraa.ni vi.s.nusti.s.thati mediniim-bhuutalecaa
The text can be corrected to

kalau t.r.m"satsahasraa.ni vi.s.nus ti.s.thati bhuutale (or medinyaam)|

'In Kali period Vi.s.nu stays on earth for thirty thousands years.'

mediniim-bhuutale caa does not fit the "sloka meter.

I cannot find the source of it.

Yuko Yokochi




From yyokochi at BUN.KYOTO-U.AC.JP  Fri Nov  4 11:23:31 2005
From: yyokochi at BUN.KYOTO-U.AC.JP (Yuko Yokochi)
Date: Fri, 04 Nov 05 20:23:31 +0900
Subject: source of Sanskrit half-;sloka in Hindi piece
In-Reply-To: <EE35F5DC-8921-4384-B7B9-437F0849EFFA@let.leidenuniv.nl>
Message-ID: <161227077039.23782.8571758437985123100.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

One correction in my last email.

medinyaam is unmetrical and impossible.

Yuko




From yyokochi at BUN.KYOTO-U.AC.JP  Sat Nov  5 02:20:13 2005
From: yyokochi at BUN.KYOTO-U.AC.JP (Yuko Yokochi)
Date: Sat, 05 Nov 05 11:20:13 +0900
Subject: source of Sanskrit half-;sloka in Hindi piece
In-Reply-To: <EE35F5DC-8921-4384-B7B9-437F0849EFFA@let.leidenuniv.nl>
Message-ID: <161227077046.23782.18249629687616691670.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

caa of bhuutalecaa may be just an error of vaa. And bhuutale vaa may be
a scribe's marginal note that has entered into the text.
In that case, the original quotation would be

kalau tri.m"sasahasraa.ni vi.s.nus ti.s.thati mediniim|. (I follow Somdev's 
tri.m"sa.)

The accusative mediniim appears to be used instead of medinyaam by metrical 
reason.
This usage of accusative for locative is often found in regard to words of time.
But I wonder whether this is possible for words of place.

I also wonder what this half-"sloka means---what a manifestation of Vi.s.nu
stays on earth for thirty thousand years? Arlo, is there any hint in the 
immediate context?

Yuko Yokochi

At 23:04 05/11/03, you wrote:
>Dear colleagues,
>
>A graduate student in my department is studying the following theatre
>piece by .Thaakur Jagmohan Si.mh (1857-1899): "Huqqevaale kaa
>naa.tak", published in .Thaakur Jagmohan Si.mh Racnaavalii 1. 2001.
>Raaypur: Chattisga.rh lok sa.msk.rti anusandhaan sa.msthaan (written
>c. 1880; unpublished during his lifetime).
>
>At a certain point in the dialogue, a wise man cites the following
>half-;sloka to prove that dharma and devataas are no longer what they
>used to be:
>
>kalaud.r.m;sa sahasraa.ni vi.s.nusti.s.thati mediniim-bhuutalecaa
>
>The word division is as given in the text. Does anyone understand how
>to read or correct d.r.m;sa, which I presume must be separated from
>kalau? Does anyone understand bhuutalecaa, or at least the caa part?
>Does anyone know the source of this (half) verse?
>
>With thanks,
>
>Arlo Griffiths
>Instituut Kern, Universiteit Leiden
>Postbus 9515
>2300 RA Leiden, the Netherlands
>
>phone: +31-(0)71-5272622
>fax: +31-(0)71-5272956
>email: <arlo.griffiths at let.leidenuniv.nl>




From arlo.griffiths at LET.LEIDENUNIV.NL  Mon Nov  7 12:41:32 2005
From: arlo.griffiths at LET.LEIDENUNIV.NL (Arlo Griffiths)
Date: Mon, 07 Nov 05 13:41:32 +0100
Subject: source of Sanskrit half-;sloka in Hindi piece
In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20051105111113.04985740@mail.bun.kyoto-u.ac.jp>
Message-ID: <161227077049.23782.11159636555754144371.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Thanks to Marina Orelskaya, Madhav Deshpande, Somdev Vasudeva, and  
Yuko Yokochi for responding to my query so helpfully. Alas the source  
remains untraced.

To answer Yuko's question about the context, here is what our  
graduate student writes to me (quickly translated from the Dutch):

"I would not expect too much from the context for the meaning of the  
verse. The piece is a farce with lots of dirty jokes, and the person  
citing the verse is a Bengali who is depicted as a dumb and  
unreliable figure. It may very well be his is trying to show off his  
would-be knowledge by reciting a piece of (grammatically and  
metrically) incorrect Sanskrit. But the context is this: the Bengali  
is speaking with a dumb pandit. The pandit is quite impressed.
huqqevaalaa: bai.thie - ab sab dharmm lop ho gaye - aur devtaa bhii  
cale gae - kyo.mki:
[half-;sloka]
gobarganes: haa.m, mahaaraaj! ab to sab devtaa bhi u.th gaye.
huqqevaalaa: par keval hari kaa naam hii pratyak.s hai - "harer  
naamaani kevalam".
gobarganes: haa.m, mahaaraaj aisaa hii hai.
[Then the waterpipe-smoker tells how he gave a dried out tree water  
and brought it back to life. Gobarganes declares that the Huqqevaalaa  
is an incarnation of the .R.sis.]"

I don't suppose the added verse-quarter (assuming it forms part of  
the same ;sloka) will be of much help to trace a source, at least  
none of the e-texts at my disposal yields a match for harer naamaani  
kevalam.

Best wishes,

Arlo Griffiths


On Nov 5, 2005, at 3:20 AM, Yuko Yokochi wrote:

> caa of bhuutalecaa may be just an error of vaa. And bhuutale vaa  
> may be
> a scribe's marginal note that has entered into the text.
> In that case, the original quotation would be
>
> kalau tri.m"sasahasraa.ni vi.s.nus ti.s.thati mediniim|. (I follow  
> Somdev's tri.m"sa.)
>
> The accusative mediniim appears to be used instead of medinyaam by  
> metrical reason.
> This usage of accusative for locative is often found in regard to  
> words of time.
> But I wonder whether this is possible for words of place.
>
> I also wonder what this half-"sloka means---what a manifestation of  
> Vi.s.nu
> stays on earth for thirty thousand years? Arlo, is there any hint  
> in the immediate context?
>
> Yuko Yokochi
>
> At 23:04 05/11/03, you wrote:
>> Dear colleagues,
>>
>> A graduate student in my department is studying the following theatre
>> piece by .Thaakur Jagmohan Si.mh (1857-1899): "Huqqevaale kaa
>> naa.tak", published in .Thaakur Jagmohan Si.mh Racnaavalii 1. 2001.
>> Raaypur: Chattisga.rh lok sa.msk.rti anusandhaan sa.msthaan (written
>> c. 1880; unpublished during his lifetime).
>>
>> At a certain point in the dialogue, a wise man cites the following
>> half-;sloka to prove that dharma and devataas are no longer what they
>> used to be:
>>
>> kalaud.r.m;sa sahasraa.ni vi.s.nusti.s.thati mediniim-bhuutalecaa
>>
>> The word division is as given in the text. Does anyone understand how
>> to read or correct d.r.m;sa, which I presume must be separated from
>> kalau? Does anyone understand bhuutalecaa, or at least the caa part?
>> Does anyone know the source of this (half) verse?
>>
>> With thanks,
>>
>> Arlo Griffiths
>> Instituut Kern, Universiteit Leiden
>> Postbus 9515
>> 2300 RA Leiden, the Netherlands
>>
>> phone: +31-(0)71-5272622
>> fax: +31-(0)71-5272956
>> email: <arlo.griffiths at let.leidenuniv.nl>




From Peter.Bisschop at ED.AC.UK  Mon Nov  7 17:13:16 2005
From: Peter.Bisschop at ED.AC.UK (Peter Bisschop)
Date: Mon, 07 Nov 05 17:13:16 +0000
Subject: source of Sanskrit half-;sloka in Hindi piece
In-Reply-To: <CAE0AEA2-DE89-4DCD-90F1-B0587D00280F@let.leidenuniv.nl>
Message-ID: <161227077053.23782.3309605070534345052.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

The verse quarter (harer naamaani kevalam) is found in the Venkatesvara 
edition of the Vi.s.nupuraa.na, but alas it does not form part of the 
"sloka at issue:

yaj~ne"saacyuta govinda maadhavaananta ke"sava |
k.r.s.na vi.s.no h.r.siike"sa vaasudeva namo stu te || ViP_2,13.9||
iti raajaaha bharato harer naamaani kevalam |

The paada is absent in the text constituted in the critical edition 
from Baroda:

yaj~ne"saacyuta govinda maadhavaananta ke"sava|
k.r.s.na vi.s.no h.r.siike"sety aaha raajaa sa kevalam || ViP 2,13.9||

---
Peter Bisschop
Asian Studies
7/8 Buccleuch Place
Edinburgh EH8 9LW
United Kingdom

e-mail: Peter.Bisschop at ed.ac.uk
phone: +(0)131 650 4174

On 7 Nov 2005, at 12:41, Arlo Griffiths wrote:

> Thanks to Marina Orelskaya, Madhav Deshpande, Somdev Vasudeva, and 
> Yuko Yokochi for responding to my query so helpfully. Alas the source 
> remains untraced.
>
> To answer Yuko's question about the context, here is what our graduate 
> student writes to me (quickly translated from the Dutch):
>
> "I would not expect too much from the context for the meaning of the 
> verse. The piece is a farce with lots of dirty jokes, and the person 
> citing the verse is a Bengali who is depicted as a dumb and unreliable 
> figure. It may very well be his is trying to show off his would-be 
> knowledge by reciting a piece of (grammatically and metrically) 
> incorrect Sanskrit. But the context is this: the Bengali is speaking 
> with a dumb pandit. The pandit is quite impressed.
> huqqevaalaa: bai.thie - ab sab dharmm lop ho gaye - aur devtaa bhii 
> cale gae - kyo.mki:
> [half-;sloka]
> gobarganes: haa.m, mahaaraaj! ab to sab devtaa bhi u.th gaye.
> huqqevaalaa: par keval hari kaa naam hii pratyak.s hai - "harer 
> naamaani kevalam".
> gobarganes: haa.m, mahaaraaj aisaa hii hai.
> [Then the waterpipe-smoker tells how he gave a dried out tree water 
> and brought it back to life. Gobarganes declares that the Huqqevaalaa 
> is an incarnation of the .R.sis.]"
>
> I don't suppose the added verse-quarter (assuming it forms part of the 
> same ;sloka) will be of much help to trace a source, at least none of 
> the e-texts at my disposal yields a match for harer naamaani kevalam.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Arlo Griffiths




From toke_knudsen at MAC.COM  Sun Nov 13 01:00:43 2005
From: toke_knudsen at MAC.COM (Toke Lindegaard Knudsen)
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 05 20:00:43 -0500
Subject: Professor David Pingree
Message-ID: <161227077055.23782.16620753377803989053.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Indologists,

I am very sad to inform you that Professor David Pingree of Brown 
University passed away Friday night, 72 years old.

Sincerely,
Toke Lindegaard Knudsen




From ucgadkw at UCL.AC.UK  Sun Nov 13 11:23:33 2005
From: ucgadkw at UCL.AC.UK (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 05 11:23:33 +0000
Subject: Professor David Pingree
In-Reply-To: <cd04ff0648484ffaea4ba2d6eaee5297@mac.com>
Message-ID: <161227077058.23782.14975047262070646537.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Oh no.  I'm very very sad to hear that.  I hadn't thought for a minute 
that this was near.
Dominik



On Sat, 12 Nov 2005, Toke Lindegaard Knudsen wrote:

> Dear Indologists,
>
> I am very sad to inform you that Professor David Pingree of Brown University 
> passed away Friday night, 72 years old.
>
> Sincerely,
> Toke Lindegaard Knudsen
>




From conlon at U.WASHINGTON.EDU  Sun Nov 13 21:51:20 2005
From: conlon at U.WASHINGTON.EDU (Frank Conlon)
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 05 13:51:20 -0800
Subject: Professor David Pingree
In-Reply-To: <20051113220211.23E68467@cc.kyoto-su.ac.jp>
Message-ID: <161227077063.23782.393181668643835839.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Friends:

I was preparing a notice for H-ASIA to share this sad news.  I came into a 
puzzle.  When wwas David born?  The LC records say 1933 which would bring 
his age in the American reckoning to 72, but I had an impression he was 
older than that.  Can anyone clarify?

Thanks,

Frank

Frank F. Conlon
Professor Emeritus of History, South Asian
      Studies & Comparative Religion
University of Washington
Seattle, WA 98195-3560      USA
Co-editor, H-ASIA
Managing Director, Bibliography of Asian Studies Online

On Sun, 13 Nov 2005, Michio Yano wrote:

> Dear Dominik,
>
> When I visited Pingree on his last Birthday
> (January 2 this year) he was fine.
> I cannot believe.
> I wonder whether something was wrong with the
> operation.
>
> With best wishes,
> Michio
>




From conlon at U.WASHINGTON.EDU  Sun Nov 13 22:04:46 2005
From: conlon at U.WASHINGTON.EDU (Frank Conlon)
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 05 14:04:46 -0800
Subject: Professor David Pingree
In-Reply-To: <13638817.1131919130811.JavaMail.toke_knudsen@mac.com>
Message-ID: <161227077069.23782.12299359488217175556.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Toke--thank you very much.  I will cross post our H-ASIA notice to 
Indology--probably in about a day's time, as things are a bit backed up 
here.

Again, thanks.

Frank

Frank F. Conlon
Professor Emeritus 
University of Washington
Co-editor, H-ASIA

On Sun, 13 Nov 2005, Toke Lindegaard Knudsen wrote:

> Dear Prof. Conlon,
>
>> I was preparing a notice for H-ASIA to share this sad news.  I came into a
>> puzzle.  When wwas David born?  The LC records say 1933 which would bring
>> his age in the American reckoning to 72, but I had an impression he was
>> older than that.  Can anyone clarify?
>
> He was born in 1933 as stated in the LC records, and thus 72 years old when he passed away.
>
> Sincerely,
> Toke Lindegaard Knudsen
>
> P.S.  Would you mind sharing your notice to H-ASIA with me?
>




From toke_knudsen at MAC.COM  Sun Nov 13 21:58:50 2005
From: toke_knudsen at MAC.COM (Toke Lindegaard Knudsen)
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 05 16:58:50 -0500
Subject: Professor David Pingree
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63a.0511131349470.25516@homer22.u.washington.edu>
Message-ID: <161227077065.23782.15878256491653476529.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Prof. Conlon,

> I was preparing a notice for H-ASIA to share this sad news.  I came into a 
> puzzle.  When wwas David born?  The LC records say 1933 which would bring 
> his age in the American reckoning to 72, but I had an impression he was 
> older than that.  Can anyone clarify?

He was born in 1933 as stated in the LC records, and thus 72 years old when he passed away.

Sincerely,
Toke Lindegaard Knudsen

P.S.  Would you mind sharing your notice to H-ASIA with me?




From yanom at CC.KYOTO-SU.AC.JP  Sun Nov 13 13:02:11 2005
From: yanom at CC.KYOTO-SU.AC.JP (Michio Yano)
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 05 22:02:11 +0900
Subject: Professor David Pingree
Message-ID: <161227077060.23782.16497109272377751707.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Dominik,

When I visited Pingree on his last Birthday
(January 2 this year) he was fine.
I cannot believe.
I wonder whether something was wrong with the
operation.

With best wishes,
Michio




From navadipanyaya at HOTMAIL.COM  Mon Nov 14 09:31:27 2005
From: navadipanyaya at HOTMAIL.COM (jagan nadh)
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 05 09:31:27 +0000
Subject: tulIrakhandAdri
In-Reply-To: <563F2ABC0DC3EA3D97A14338@tswle3a2.cul.columbia.edu>
Message-ID: <161227077072.23782.4583121667960642595.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear friends
Any body can help me to get details of the name "tulIrakhandAdri".The name 
found in the colophone of a manuscript .The verse is " sEshAdrinAmnA 
vidushOpanita tUlirakhandAdrIhakeraleshu sri sabdaratnakaranAmadheyO 
niadhavryOyamkhandabhumAh ".
Thanks in advance

Jaganadh.G
RSVP
Thirupathi
India




From reimann at UCLINK4.BERKELEY.EDU  Tue Nov 15 09:16:32 2005
From: reimann at UCLINK4.BERKELEY.EDU (Luis Gonzalez-Reimann)
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 05 01:16:32 -0800
Subject: source of Sanskrit half-;sloka in Hindi piece
Message-ID: <161227077075.23782.11753468337594241994.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Arlo,

The source seems to be the Brahmavaivarta Purana, as Marina suggested.

I translated a good portion of the passage, and discussed it, in Appendix F 
(Bhaktivedanta Swami and the 'Golden Age' within the Kali Yuga) of The 
Mahabharata and the Yugas. Peter Lang, 2002. (pp. 237-241).

The passage is 4.129.49-60. Both text and translation are included in the 
above.

Verse 51ab reads: kaleH pa?casahasrANi varSANi tiSTha bhUtale /

(Remain on Earth for [the first] 5,000 years of the Kali [Yuga]!)

This is KRSNa speaking to GaGgA.

Luis




From toke_knudsen at MAC.COM  Tue Nov 15 15:10:09 2005
From: toke_knudsen at MAC.COM (Toke Lindegaard Knudsen)
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 05 10:10:09 -0500
Subject: History of Mathematics at Brown
Message-ID: <161227077081.23782.17552823293047066703.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Indologists,

For those of you interested in David Pingree's legacy and the future of the Department of the History of Mathematics at Brown University, these articles may be of interest:

Article in the Brown Daily Herald:
http://tinyurl.com/dbyd3

Article in Inside Higher Ed:
http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/11/15/histmath

Sincerely,
Toke Lindegaard Knudsen




From arlo.griffiths at LET.LEIDENUNIV.NL  Tue Nov 15 09:33:11 2005
From: arlo.griffiths at LET.LEIDENUNIV.NL (Arlo Griffiths)
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 05 10:33:11 +0100
Subject: source of Sanskrit half-;sloka in Hindi piece
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20051115011412.030db9a0@calmail.berkeley.edu>
Message-ID: <161227077078.23782.9119802035630006206.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Thank you very much, Luis.

Arlo

On Nov 15, 2005, at 10:16 AM, Luis Gonzalez-Reimann wrote:

> Arlo,
>
> The source seems to be the Brahmavaivarta Purana, as Marina suggested.
>
> I translated a good portion of the passage, and discussed it, in  
> Appendix F (Bhaktivedanta Swami and the 'Golden Age' within the  
> Kali Yuga) of The Mahabharata and the Yugas. Peter Lang, 2002. (pp.  
> 237-241).
>
> The passage is 4.129.49-60. Both text and translation are included  
> in the above.
>
> Verse 51ab reads: kaleH pa?casahasrANi varSANi tiSTha bhUtale /
>
> (Remain on Earth for [the first] 5,000 years of the Kali [Yuga]!)
>
> This is KRSNa speaking to GaGgA.
>
> Luis




From mmdesh at UMICH.EDU  Wed Nov 16 11:15:31 2005
From: mmdesh at UMICH.EDU (Madhav Deshpande)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 05 06:15:31 -0500
Subject: chinese website
Message-ID: <161227077089.23782.11660430997872849070.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Yesterday I downloaded a 200+ mb file "fahua.rar" from this website, but I have no idea what program will open this ".rar" file.  Any suggestions?
 
Madhav M. Deshpande


________________________________

From: Indology on behalf of Arlo Griffiths
Sent: Wed 11/16/2005 5:48 AM
To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk
Subject: chinese website



Dear colleagues,

The following website of the Chinese "Research Institute of Sanskrit 
manuscripts & and Buddhist Literature" has just been brought to my 
attention: <http://sfl.pku.edu.cn/sanskrit/>. It may not be an 
evident destination for non-Buddhologists, and that is why I mention 
it here on INDOLOGY, because it offers several collections of 
materials that may be of rather broad utility (e.g. ak.sara lists 
for ;Saaradaa and Nepalese Post-Gupta scripts from two old mss., a 
Khotanese page under construction).

Arlo Griffiths




From arlo.griffiths at LET.LEIDENUNIV.NL  Wed Nov 16 10:48:11 2005
From: arlo.griffiths at LET.LEIDENUNIV.NL (Arlo Griffiths)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 05 11:48:11 +0100
Subject: chinese website
Message-ID: <161227077084.23782.3015119177944069814.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear colleagues,

The following website of the Chinese "Research Institute of Sanskrit  
manuscripts & and Buddhist Literature" has just been brought to my  
attention: <http://sfl.pku.edu.cn/sanskrit/>. It may not be an  
evident destination for non-Buddhologists, and that is why I mention  
it here on INDOLOGY, because it offers several collections of  
materials that may be of rather broad utility (e.g. ak.sara lists  
for ;Saaradaa and Nepalese Post-Gupta scripts from two old mss., a  
Khotanese page under construction).

Arlo Griffiths




From christoph.emmrich at URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE  Wed Nov 16 10:48:24 2005
From: christoph.emmrich at URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (Christoph Emmrich)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 05 11:48:24 +0100
Subject: Summer School in Spoken Sanskrit 2006
Message-ID: <161227077086.23782.4963029720632881958.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Summer School in Spoken Sanskrit 2006

The Department of Classical Indology at the South Asia Institute 
Heidelberg/Germany announces the Summer School in Spoken Sanskrit from 01.08.- 
26.08.06 and the Advanced Summer School in Spoken Sanskrit from 04.09.- 
22.09.06, which are organized here in Heidelberg for the 7th time. 

Both courses will be held under the guidance of Dr. Sadanada Das, a Sanskrit 
native speaker from Benares and an experienced Sanskrit teacher. The 
participants will learn to listen carefully, to pronounce accurately and to 
slowly speak and recite this beautiful language.

Prerequisites: elementary Sanskrit and English
Organizer: Prof. Dr. Axel Michaels
Venue: South Asia Institute, Heidelberg/ Germany
Deadlines: application May 15, 2006, payment June 30, 2006
Fee: Euro 300,- (incl. teaching materials)
Accommodation: hostel on request, approx. Euro 200,-
Applications by email: kathleen.goegge at urz.uni-heidelberg.de
Applications by mail: ?Sanskrit Summer School?, The Secretariat Dept. of 
Classical Indology
		           	South Asia Institute
			Im Neuenheimer Feld 330
			69120 Heidelberg

For further questions please do not hesitate to contact me.

Yours sincerely,
Kathleen Goegge

Department of Classical Indology
Head: Prof. Dr. Axel Michaels
Im Neuenheimer Feld 330
D-69120 Heidelberg
Germany
Tel: +49(0)6221-54 49 07
Fax: +49(0)6221-54 63 38
e-mail: kathleen.goegge at urz.uni-heidelberg.de


-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Application form
- Summer School in Spoken Sanskrit 
- Advanced Summer School in Spoken Sanskrit
(please tick)

Name (last, first)
Date of Birth
Sex
Nationality
Residential Address
Telephone / Fax (including National Code)
Email
Profession
University
Degree / Subjects
Supervisor
Years of Sanskrit
Texts read
Previous courses in spoken Sanskrit (place, date, teacher, content)
Other Languages (modern and classical)
Accommodation required




From pwyzlic at UNI-BONN.DE  Wed Nov 16 11:45:33 2005
From: pwyzlic at UNI-BONN.DE (Peter Wyzlic)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 05 12:45:33 +0100
Subject: chinese website
In-Reply-To: <437B2699.22347.D45D0D@mail.sub.uni-goettingen.de>
Message-ID: <161227077093.23782.10581202237853801265.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:31:22 +0100
  "Dr. Reinhard Gr?nendahl" 
             <gruenen at MAIL.SUB.UNI-GOETTINGEN.DE> wrote:
>> Yesterday I downloaded a 200+ mb file "fahua.rar" from 
>>this website, but I have no idea what program will open 
>>this ".rar" file.  Any suggestions?
> 
> This is the compression format of WinRar (see 
>www.rarlab.com)

For MacOS users: Stuffit Expander can deal with rar 
archives, too (at least recent Expander versions).

Bye
Peter Wyzlic

--
Indologisches Seminar der
Universit?t Bonn
Regina-Pacis-Weg 7
D-53113 Bonn
Deutschland / Germany




From gruenen at MAIL.SUB.UNI-GOETTINGEN.DE  Wed Nov 16 11:55:09 2005
From: gruenen at MAIL.SUB.UNI-GOETTINGEN.DE (gruenendahl)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 05 12:55:09 +0100
Subject: chinese website
In-Reply-To: <37BB7008218B6145BA7AADC53FC9CE253227DA@lsa-m5.lsa.adsroot.itcs.umich.edu>
Message-ID: <161227077095.23782.9715449914762161906.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

If you will allow me a personal note:

My first name in the "From" field of my last message was wrong. Someone in our 
net administration changed it for reasons unknown to me, and without asking. 
Anyway, I would prefer to keep it as it was. So please forget the other one.

Regards
Reinhold Gr?nendahl


********************************************************************

Dr. Reinhold Gruenendahl
Niedersaechsische Staats- und Universitaetsbibliothek
Fachreferat sued- und suedostasiatische Philologien
(Dept. of Indology)

37070 G?ttingen, Germany
Tel (+49) (0)5 51 / 39 52 83
Fax (+49) (0)5 51 / 39 23 61
gruenen at mail.sub.uni-goettingen.de

FACH-INFORMATIONEN INDOLOGIE, GOETTINGEN:
http://www.sub.uni-goettingen.de/ebene_1/fiindolo/fiindolo.htm
In English:
http://www.sub.uni-goettingen.de/ebene_1/fiindolo/fiindole.htm

GRETIL - Goettingen Register of Electronic Texts in Indian Languages
http://www.sub.uni-goettingen.de/ebene_1/fiindolo/gretil.htm




From arlo.griffiths at LET.LEIDENUNIV.NL  Wed Nov 16 12:02:05 2005
From: arlo.griffiths at LET.LEIDENUNIV.NL (Arlo Griffiths)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 05 13:02:05 +0100
Subject: Fwd: rar archive
Message-ID: <161227077098.23782.4614316419338825447.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Kengo Harimoto asks me to add for Mac users: <http:// 
unrarx.sourceforge.net/>.

Arlo Griffiths




From huntington.2 at OSU.EDU  Wed Nov 16 23:28:57 2005
From: huntington.2 at OSU.EDU (John Huntington)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 05 18:28:57 -0500
Subject: Mystery Manuscripts
Message-ID: <161227077100.23782.6958223725393538239.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Indological Colleagues,

A prospective Graduate student for our program has asked for help in 
identifying the languages of two manuscripts in her university's 
library collection. While I suspect possibly Burmese and either Pali 
or Sinhala, both are completely outside of my linguistic ken

We have posted them at:

http://huntingtonarchive.osu.edu/Mystery_Manuscript/Mystery_Manuscript.html

All the library wants in the language group but anything else that 
can provided easily  will be much appreciated.

If it is of interest, both seen to be complete.

Thank you in advance

John


-- 
John C. Huntington, Professor
    (Buddhist Art and Methodologies)
The Ohio State University

Please visit the Huntington Archive website at:
http://huntingtonarchive.osu.edu




From conlon at U.WASHINGTON.EDU  Thu Nov 17 03:31:20 2005
From: conlon at U.WASHINGTON.EDU (Frank Conlon)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 05 19:31:20 -0800
Subject: David Edwin Pingree, 1933-2005 H-ASIA Obituary note
In-Reply-To: <cd04ff0648484ffaea4ba2d6eaee5297@mac.com>
Message-ID: <161227077112.23782.12948459611800553035.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Cross post from H-ASIA

H-ASIA
November 16, 2005

Professor David Edwin Pingree, 1933-2005
***********************************************************
From: Frank Conlon <conlon at u.washington.edu>

It is my very sad duty to report the death from the complications of 
diabetes, on Friday, November 11, 2005, of Professor David Edwin Pingree, 
the internationally recognized specialist in the history of ancient 
mathematics, and head of the Department of the History of Mathematics at 
Brown University.

Pingree's scholarly contributions ranged across the ancient worlds of Asia 
and the Middle East.  He edited and translated numerous editions of texts 
on astronomy, astrology, mathematics and magic from Akkadian, Arabic, 
Greek, Latin, Persian and Sanskrit sources.  Pingree's work was not that 
of cultivation of minutiae.  Rather, he placed strong emphasis on the 
transmission of science from one culture to another, and cultural 
influence on the content and expression of scientific thought.  He 
emphasized the ways in which the recipient culture might alter the ideas 
from another culture in order to render them accessible. Pingree once 
stated "each time there is a transmission there is a transformation,"  His 
students learned paleography, codicology, Indian epigraphy, ancient and 
medieval Indian history as well as studies of the Ancient Near East and 
Islam.

Though his textual command, he was often able to employ surviving records 
of a later period and culture to reconstruct the sciences of an earlier 
one. For example, he used Greek astrology to clarify earlier Babylonian 
omen texts; 8th- and 9th-century Arabic texts to reconstruct 5th-century 
Sassanian (Persian) astronomy and astrology; and Byzantine Greek 
astronomical tables to reconstruct their Arabic and Persian sources.

He was an advisory editor for the _Journal for the History of Astronomy_, 
the _Journal for History of Arabic Science_, _Arabic Sciences and 
Philosophy_; _International Journal of the Classical Tradition_; and 
_Historia Mathematica_, and was co-editor of _Islamic Philosophy, 
Theology, and Sciences_.

David Pingree was a prolific scholar with about forty-three books and 
monographs and over 240 articles published.  Among his more recent 
published books are _The Astronomical works of Dasabala_ (Aligarh: Viveka 
Publications, 1988); _The Grahaj?ana of Asadhara together with the 
Ganitacudamani of Harihara_ (Aligarh: Viveka Publications, 1989); with 
Charles Burnett, _The Liber Aristotilis of Hugo of Santalla_ (London: 
Warburg Institute, 1997) _From Astral Omens to Astrology: From Babylon to 
Bikaner_ (Rome: Istituto italiano per l'Africa et l'Oriente, 1997)
and _ Enuma Anu Enlil: Babylonian Planetary Omens, part three_ (with Erika 
Reiner) (Groningen, Styx, 1998); _Astral sciences in Mesopotamia_ by 
Hermann Hunger and David Pingree (Leiden: Brill, 1999; _Sharh 
al-Tadhkirah: Arabic astronomy in Sanskrit: Al-Birjand?i on Tadhkira II, 
chapter 11, and its Sanskrit translation_, edited, commented, and 
translated by  Takanori Kusuba & David Pingree (Leiden: Brill, 2002); _A 
descriptive catalogue of the Sanskrit astronomical manuscripts preserved 
at the Maharaja Man Singh II Museum in Jaipur, India_/ compiled by David 
Pingree from the notes taken by Setsuro Ikeyama ... [et al.](Philadelphia: 
American Philosophical Society, 2003); __Catalogue of jyotisa manuscripts 
in the Wellcome Library: Sanskrit astral and mathematical literature_ 
(Leiden: Brill, 2004)

An example of the breadth of his learning may be glimpsed from two 
lectures he gave during a visit to Cornell University in 2000:"The 
Earliest Version of Jagannatha's Siddhantakaustubha," and "Rhetorius, the 
Last Greek Astrologer of Alexandria,"

At Brown, he was the only professor in a unique department of History of 
Mathematics, founded by the late Otto Neugebauer in 1947.  Pingree joined 
Brown in in 1971 and headed the department since 1986. He was planning to 
retire at the end of the current academic year.  It is particularly sad 
and unsettling to note that, after higher administrators at Brown allowed 
Pingree's department to shrink, the current Provost Robert Zimmer informed 
Pingree by e-mail the day before his death that the university was 
contemplating closing the program altogether.  In an interview which 
appeared in the  _Brown Daily Herald_ on November 9, Pingree had observed 
that the unique program had been created as a special center of 
scholarship by earlier administrators.  He recalled that when he came to 
Brown in the 1970s : "we were under a very different administration, and 
that administration respected what we did."  In an article in _Inside 
HigherEd_ (November 15, 2005), Rob Capriccioso reports that Provost Robert 
Zimmer "denied that any decisions were based on enrollment or financial 
figures. 'We're not losing a part of the University - the configurations 
are evolving, ... The real question is what is the optimal configuration 
to support the work of our students and faculty.'"  David's colleague 
Peter Scharf said of the current university administration: "I don't think 
they ever really knew what Dr. Pingree did . . .there~'s a new provost, 
new deans -- they just don't understand."

David Edwin Pingree was born in New Haven, Connecticut in 1933, son of 
Daniel and Elizabeth (Maconi) Pingree.  He graduated from Phillips 
Academy, Andover and Harvard University where he did both his 
baccalaureate degree and completed his PhD. in 1960 under the supervision 
of Daniel Ingells and Otto Neugebauer.  He first visited India in 1958, 
studying Sanskrit; then returned to Harvard to study Arabic.  He 
subsequently joined the University of Chicago, moving to Brown in 1971. 
He was recipient of a Guggenheim Fellowship, a MacArthur Fellowship, was 
elected a member of the American Philosophical Society and the Institute 
for Advanced Study.  Last year he was honored in the publication of a 
festscrift _Studies in the history of the exact sciences in honour of 
David Pingree_ (Leiden: Brill, 2004)(Edited by Charles Burnett). ; [ISBN: 
9004132023]

A private funeral service will be held and a memorial service at Brown 
University will be scheduled later.  David is survived by his wife 
Isabelle Sanchirico Pingree, a daughter, two brothers and a sister.  In 
lieu of flowers, memorial contributions may be directed to the American 
Diabetes Association.

Frank F. Conlon
University of Washington
******************************************************************
          To post to  H-ASIA  simply send your message to:
                          <H-ASIA at h-net.msu.edu>
            For holidays or short absences send post to:
                  <listserv at h-net.msu.edu> with message:
                          SET H-ASIA NOMAIL
         Upon return, send post with message SET H-ASIA MAIL
         H-ASIA WEB HOMEPAGE URL:    http://h-net.msu.edu/~asia/




From erockwell at WISC.EDU  Thu Nov 17 02:12:09 2005
From: erockwell at WISC.EDU (ERNEST ALLAN ROCKWELL)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 05 20:12:09 -0600
Subject: Mystery Manuscripts
In-Reply-To: <p06210202bfa16eebd48a@[128.146.41.35]>
Message-ID: <161227077103.23782.656704483007146266.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

The first two pages: Language is Tamil - Group Dravidian.Spoken in TamilNadu. First word- Miinapatta meaning horoscope.
Second two pages: We are not sure. 

Hope this will be helpful.

Achala  

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 
| Ernest Allan Rockwell 
| Graduate Student 
| Languages and Cultures of Asia 
| 1240 Van Hise Hall 
| 1220 Linden Drive 
| Madison WI 53706 
| USA 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~




From erockwell at WISC.EDU  Thu Nov 17 02:12:46 2005
From: erockwell at WISC.EDU (ERNEST ALLAN ROCKWELL)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 05 20:12:46 -0600
Subject: Mystery Manuscripts
In-Reply-To: <p06210202bfa16eebd48a@[128.146.41.35]>
Message-ID: <161227077106.23782.2838266076709029866.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Try the Indian embassy for help

Achala

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 
| Ernest Allan Rockwell 
| Graduate Student 
| Languages and Cultures of Asia 
| 1240 Van Hise Hall 
| 1220 Linden Drive 
| Madison WI 53706 
| USA 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~




From deviprasad at IFPINDIA.ORG  Thu Nov 17 03:07:32 2005
From: deviprasad at IFPINDIA.ORG (Deviprasad)
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 05 08:37:32 +0530
Subject: Mystery Manuscripts
Message-ID: <161227077109.23782.6442051009198400453.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

It seems to me, is a Tamil Manuscript. If you can post
the whole beginning folio of this manuscript then I can read and send you in
a written form.

Thanks

yours
Deviprasad

Deviprasad Mishra
Research Assistant
French Institute,
# 11 Saint Louis Street
P. B - 33, Pondicherry 605 001
Ph: +91-413-2331307/2334168
Cell - 09443068996
Fax: +91-413 2339534
www.ifpindia.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Huntington" <huntington.2 at OSU.EDU>
To: <INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 4:58 AM
Subject: Mystery Manuscripts


> Dear Indological Colleagues,
>
> A prospective Graduate student for our program has asked for help in
> identifying the languages of two manuscripts in her university's
> library collection. While I suspect possibly Burmese and either Pali
> or Sinhala, both are completely outside of my linguistic ken
>
> We have posted them at:
>
>
http://huntingtonarchive.osu.edu/Mystery_Manuscript/Mystery_Manuscript.html
>
> All the library wants in the language group but anything else that
> can provided easily  will be much appreciated.
>
> If it is of interest, both seen to be complete.
>
> Thank you in advance
>
> John
>
>
> --
> John C. Huntington, Professor
>     (Buddhist Art and Methodologies)
> The Ohio State University
>
> Please visit the Huntington Archive website at:
> http://huntingtonarchive.osu.edu
>
>




From ucgadkw at UCL.AC.UK  Thu Nov 17 14:56:24 2005
From: ucgadkw at UCL.AC.UK (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 05 14:56:24 +0000
Subject: Mystery Manuscripts
In-Reply-To: <p06210202bfa16eebd48a@[128.146.41.35]>
Message-ID: <161227077118.23782.16151968270076503542.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Tamil and Sinhalese, I think.

Dominik





On Wed, 16 Nov 2005, John Huntington wrote:

> Dear Indological Colleagues,
>
> A prospective Graduate student for our program has asked for help in 
> identifying the languages of two manuscripts in her university's library 
> collection. While I suspect possibly Burmese and either Pali or Sinhala, both 
> are completely outside of my linguistic ken
>
> We have posted them at:
>
> http://huntingtonarchive.osu.edu/Mystery_Manuscript/Mystery_Manuscript.html
>
> All the library wants in the language group but anything else that can 
> provided easily  will be much appreciated.
>
> If it is of interest, both seen to be complete.
>
> Thank you in advance
>
> John
>
>
>




From lmfosse at CHELLO.NO  Thu Nov 17 15:01:52 2005
From: lmfosse at CHELLO.NO (Lars Martin Fosse)
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 05 16:01:52 +0100
Subject: Date of the Sukraniti
Message-ID: <161227077120.23782.3330970162357582831.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear members of the list, 
 
what is the accepted date of the Sukraniti? I seem to remember that it is
late, but I haven't found any material on the issue.
 
Best regards,
 
Lars Martin Fosse
 

 

From: 
Dr.art. Lars Martin Fosse 
Haugerudvn. 76, Leil. 114, 
0674 Oslo - Norway 
Phone: +47 22 32 12 19 Fax:  +47 850 21 250 
Mobile phone: +47 90 91 91 45 
E-mail: lmfosse at chello.no 
http://www.linguistfinder.com/translators.asp?id=2164

 




From toke_knudsen at MAC.COM  Fri Nov 18 14:35:39 2005
From: toke_knudsen at MAC.COM (Toke Lindegaard Knudsen)
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 05 09:35:39 -0500
Subject: Obituary, David Pingree
In-Reply-To: <0cbb95ab46a8b2f87f473a2208181fe5@brown.edu>
Message-ID: <161227077124.23782.10492483999738491878.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Indologists,

This obituary of David Pingree appeared today in the Brown Daily Herald:

http://tinyurl.com/7jss7

Sincerely,
Toke Lindegaard Knudsen




From jrasik at COLMEX.MX  Fri Nov 18 16:29:08 2005
From: jrasik at COLMEX.MX (Rasik Vihari Joshi Tripathi)
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 05 10:29:08 -0600
Subject: Professor David Pingree
Message-ID: <161227077126.23782.7854516804777982765.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

I am deeply pained to learn about the sad demise of David Pingree. Indology has lost a great scholar of this century. He was not only a great indologist but was very human.
Rasik Vihari Joshi


-----Mensaje original-----
De: Indology [mailto:INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk]En nombre de Toke
Lindegaard Knudsen
Enviado el: S?bado, 12 de Noviembre de 2005 07:01 p.m.
Para: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk
Asunto: Professor David Pingree


Dear Indologists,

I am very sad to inform you that Professor David Pingree of Brown 
University passed away Friday night, 72 years old.

Sincerely,
Toke Lindegaard Knudsen




From DCL33 at MYANMAR.COM.MM  Fri Nov 18 10:10:03 2005
From: DCL33 at MYANMAR.COM.MM (Dietrich Christian Lammerts)
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 05 16:40:03 +0630
Subject: Mystery manuscripts
In-Reply-To: <BFA34B33.1F7D%DCL33@myanmar.com.mm>
Message-ID: <161227077122.23782.3575090634836669564.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Hi,
The second black paper manuscript ('parabaik' in Burmese) is Burmese. It
contains several dates from different months in ME1213 (1851CE). The top
leaf records the value of a marriage payment by husband to wife, and perhaps
this is the end of a judicial decision of some sort. The bottom leaf is a
list of settled debts.

Black parabaiks were typically used as notebooks for various jottings such
as these, rather than as supports for more literary texts.

Christian

38 Inya Rd
Kamaryut
Yangon, Myanmar
DCL33 at cornell.edu




From yavass at YV1041.SPB.EDU  Sat Nov 19 23:11:49 2005
From: yavass at YV1041.SPB.EDU (Yaroslav Vassilkov)
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 05 02:11:49 +0300
Subject: question
In-Reply-To: <437B2C2D.15826.EA26FE@mail.sub.uni-goettingen.de>
Message-ID: <161227077128.23782.14288293255797408938.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear colleagues,
could anybody tell me how am I to change the address  of my subscription?
My old  e-mail postbox is practically blocked by spam for many months,
I use for my correspondence another one, but all my attempts to re-address
my Indology subscription have failed. There seem to be no instructions 
for it
on the Indology homepage.
Can you help?
Yaroslav Vassilkov




From navadipanyaya at HOTMAIL.COM  Sun Nov 20 05:44:59 2005
From: navadipanyaya at HOTMAIL.COM (jagan nadh)
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 05 05:44:59 +0000
Subject: chinese website
In-Reply-To: <37BB7008218B6145BA7AADC53FC9CE253227DA@lsa-m5.lsa.adsroot.itcs.umich.edu>
Message-ID: <161227077130.23782.16909384046393695231.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Sir
WinRar softeware can be used to open the archive.A trial version can be 
freely downloaded.

Jaganadh.G
RSVP
Thirupathi
>From: Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at UMICH.EDU>
>Reply-To: Indology <INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk>
>To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk
>Subject: Re: chinese website
>Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 06:15:31 -0500
>
>Yesterday I downloaded a 200+ mb file "fahua.rar" from this website, but I 
>have no idea what program will open this ".rar" file.  Any suggestions?
>
>Madhav M. Deshpande
>
>
>________________________________
>
>From: Indology on behalf of Arlo Griffiths
>Sent: Wed 11/16/2005 5:48 AM
>To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk
>Subject: chinese website
>
>
>
>Dear colleagues,
>
>The following website of the Chinese "Research Institute of Sanskrit
>manuscripts & and Buddhist Literature" has just been brought to my
>attention: <http://sfl.pku.edu.cn/sanskrit/>. It may not be an
>evident destination for non-Buddhologists, and that is why I mention
>it here on INDOLOGY, because it offers several collections of
>materials that may be of rather broad utility (e.g. ak.sara lists
>for ;Saaradaa and Nepalese Post-Gupta scripts from two old mss., a
>Khotanese page under construction).
>
>Arlo Griffiths




From vjroebuck at MACUNLIMITED.NET  Sun Nov 20 11:31:47 2005
From: vjroebuck at MACUNLIMITED.NET (Valerie J Roebuck)
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 05 11:31:47 +0000
Subject: question
Message-ID: <161227077133.23782.12235575349470028872.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Yaroslav

A suggestion: in order to do this, I think you may have to 
unsubscribe from the list via your old email address and join it 
again from your new one.

Valerie J Roebuck

At 2:11 am +0300 20/11/05, Yaroslav Vassilkov wrote:
>Dear colleagues,
>could anybody tell me how am I to change the address  of my subscription?
>My old  e-mail postbox is practically blocked by spam for many months,
>I use for my correspondence another one, but all my attempts to re-address
>my Indology subscription have failed. There seem to be no instructions for it
>on the Indology homepage.
>Can you help?
>Yaroslav Vassilkov




From birgit.kellner at UNIVIE.AC.AT  Sun Nov 20 11:58:23 2005
From: birgit.kellner at UNIVIE.AC.AT (Birgit Kellner)
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 05 12:58:23 +0100
Subject: How to change subscription options (was: Re: question)
In-Reply-To: <a06110400bfa60e931382@[80.47.180.194]>
Message-ID: <161227077134.23782.14990055282299966811.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

It should actually be possible to change your email address without 
unsubscribing from the list (and then have one of the committee members 
subscribe you with a different address).

The following link leads to the page for updating subscription options:
http://listserv.liv.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=indology

This link can also be found on the INDOLOGY homepage, as "Quick link to 
add/remove/modify a subscription to the listserv discussion forum" on 
"INDOLOGY: core services".

To update subscription options, you have to login first. If you access 
your subscription options for the first time and have never received a 
password before, you can get one by clicking on a link on the login form.

All subscription options can be set this way, including e.g. whether to 
receive the list in digest form, or (very useful) temporarily suspending 
mail delivery during holidays.

Best regards,

Birgit Kellner


Valerie J Roebuck wrote:
> Dear Yaroslav
> 
> A suggestion: in order to do this, I think you may have to unsubscribe 
> from the list via your old email address and join it again from your new 
> one.
> 
> Valerie J Roebuck
> 
> At 2:11 am +0300 20/11/05, Yaroslav Vassilkov wrote:
>> Dear colleagues,
>> could anybody tell me how am I to change the address  of my subscription?
>> My old  e-mail postbox is practically blocked by spam for many months,
>> I use for my correspondence another one, but all my attempts to 
>> re-address
>> my Indology subscription have failed. There seem to be no instructions 
>> for it
>> on the Indology homepage.
>> Can you help?
>> Yaroslav Vassilkov
> 




From harshadehejia at HOTMAIL.COM  Mon Nov 21 21:50:00 2005
From: harshadehejia at HOTMAIL.COM (Harsha Dehejia)
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 05 21:50:00 +0000
Subject: Viraha
Message-ID: <161227077136.23782.10986778023216707960.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

The concept of Viraha or longing differs sharply between the Pushtimarg 
Vaishnavas and the Gaudiya Vaishnavas.

Radha becomes a goddess in the Gaudiya tradition.

Can somepne please comment on why this happened? Did Begal Tantrism have any 
role to play in this.

Thanks.

Harsha V. Dehejia




From harshadehejia at HOTMAIL.COM  Tue Nov 22 09:44:59 2005
From: harshadehejia at HOTMAIL.COM (Harsha Dehejia)
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 05 09:44:59 +0000
Subject: Radha as goddess
In-Reply-To: <C740DA41-03DC-43B4-9923-A27B0AF512AE@ncsu.edu>
Message-ID: <161227077138.23782.6126134312697119796.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Tony:

I do not have a definite reference at this very moment but it would not be 
hard to find.

Right from the Gita Govinda where Radha emerges for the first time she 
remains a consort for Krishna in the Gaudiya tradition. One sees this in the 
many pata chitras of Orissa.

In late Nathawara paintings one also sees this.

While in pushitimarg tradition there is no Radha but merely gopis.

Regrads.

Harsha
Prof. Harsha V. Dehejia
Carleton University
Ottawa, ON.

>From: "Tony K. Stewart" <tony_stewart at ncsu.edu>
>To: Harsha Dehejia <harshadehejia at HOTMAIL.COM>
>Subject: Radha as goddess
>Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 18:31:53 -0500
>
>Dear Harsha,
>
>I've been studying the Gaudiya tradition for nearly 30 years and have  
>never seen her referred to as a goddess.  Can you give me a Bangla or  
>Sanskrit textual reference and the term used?  Devi?  or some such?
>
>Cheers,
>tony
>
>
>Tony K. Stewart
>Professor of South Asian Religions
>Dept. of Philosophy and Religion
>Box 8103
>North Carolina State University
>Raleigh, NC 27695-8103 USA
>ph. 919.515.6335
>email <tony_stewart at ncsu.edu>
>




From harshadehejia at HOTMAIL.COM  Tue Nov 22 11:20:46 2005
From: harshadehejia at HOTMAIL.COM (Harsha Dehejia)
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 05 11:20:46 +0000
Subject: Radha as goddess
In-Reply-To: <C740DA41-03DC-43B4-9923-A27B0AF512AE@ncsu.edu>
Message-ID: <161227077140.23782.10391965688302850716.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

For references to Radha as a Goddess in the Gaudiya  tradition see:

1. A Celebration Of Love: The Romantic Heroine in the Indian Arts (Roli), 
2004.

2. Appropriation of a Folk Heroine: Radha in Medieval Bengali Vasihnava 
Culture, Sumanta Banerjee, Institute of Advanced Study, Shimla, 1993.

Best.
Harsha

Prof. Harsha V. Dehejia
Carleton University, Ottawa, ON.
Canada.




From arlo.griffiths at LET.LEIDENUNIV.NL  Wed Nov 23 11:13:05 2005
From: arlo.griffiths at LET.LEIDENUNIV.NL (Arlo Griffiths)
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 05 12:13:05 +0100
Subject: Epigraphia Carnatica CD-ROM
Message-ID: <161227077142.23782.618669409666384821.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Indologists,

The next to last issue of Frontline, which I only got around to  
reading last night, contains a review which will be of interest to  
many of us: the review is accessible online at <http:// 
www.flonnet.com/fl2223/stories/20051118000607600.htm>, and deals with  
a CD-ROM edition of the original Epigraphia Carnatica with  
Supplements and a new Index. Curiously, the review does not indicate  
where this CD-ROM can be obtained, and at what price --- the review  
only makes clear the CD-ROM has been brought out by the Southern  
Regional Centre (Bangalore) of the Indian Council of Historical  
Research (ICHR), and is the brainchild of Prof. S. Settar. It would  
seem to be a potentially very important research tool.

Would those who have more information on this CD-ROM (the quality of  
the data entry, and how the thing can be obtained) please come forward?

By the way, other issues of Frontline in recent months have also  
brought items on new, post-Tsunami discoveries on the shore at  
Mahabalipuram, and new discoveries of supposedly ancient Tamil Brahmi  
inscriptions/ostraca from other sites (if I remember well). Has  
anybody outside of the ASI seen and evaluated these discoveries?

With thanks in advance,

Arlo Griffiths




From csaba_dezso at YAHOO.CO.UK  Wed Nov 23 12:03:37 2005
From: csaba_dezso at YAHOO.CO.UK (Csaba Dezso)
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 05 13:03:37 +0100
Subject: Epigraphia Carnatica CD-ROM
In-Reply-To: <CCA69194-2597-49A7-BE79-8E51C92932AD@let.leidenuniv.nl>
Message-ID: <161227077144.23782.16292326299808929488.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Another article on the same:

www.hindu.com/2005/11/07/stories/2005110714330500.htm
It says:

"The cost of the CD-ROM is Rs. 500. Those interested to buy it can  
contact the Assistant Director, ICHR, Southern Regional Centre, Law  
College premises, Palace Road, Bangalore 560009."


On 23 Nov 2005, at 12:13, Arlo Griffiths wrote:

> Dear Indologists,
>
> The next to last issue of Frontline, which I only got around to  
> reading last night, contains a review which will be of interest to  
> many of us: the review is accessible online at <http:// 
> www.flonnet.com/fl2223/stories/20051118000607600.htm>, and deals  
> with a CD-ROM edition of the original Epigraphia Carnatica with  
> Supplements and a new Index. Curiously, the review does not  
> indicate where this CD-ROM can be obtained, and at what price ---  
> the review only makes clear the CD-ROM has been brought out by the  
> Southern Regional Centre (Bangalore) of the Indian Council of  
> Historical Research (ICHR), and is the brainchild of Prof. S.  
> Settar. It would seem to be a potentially very important research  
> tool.
>
> Would those who have more information on this CD-ROM (the quality  
> of the data entry, and how the thing can be obtained) please come  
> forward?
>
> By the way, other issues of Frontline in recent months have also  
> brought items on new, post-Tsunami discoveries on the shore at  
> Mahabalipuram, and new discoveries of supposedly ancient Tamil  
> Brahmi inscriptions/ostraca from other sites (if I remember well).  
> Has anybody outside of the ASI seen and evaluated these discoveries?
>
> With thanks in advance,
>
> Arlo Griffiths




From arganis at TODITO.COM  Thu Nov 24 01:26:09 2005
From: arganis at TODITO.COM (Horacio Francisco Arganis Juarez)
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 05 01:26:09 +0000
Subject: Viraha
Message-ID: <161227077146.23782.16197916401778385550.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Namaste Profr. Harsha:
Here you are, the mail from Steven J. Rosen. He is a nice specialist in Gaudiya vaisnavism and Journarl of Vaisnava studies editor. He can help to you so much. satchmo868 at aol.com.
> The concept of Viraha or longing differs sharply between the Pushtimarg 
> Vaishnavas and the Gaudiya Vaishnavas. 
> 
> Radha becomes a goddess in the Gaudiya tradition. 
> 
> Can somepne please comment on why this happened? Did Begal Tantrism have any 
> role to play in this. 
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
> Harsha V. Dehejia 
> 
_________________________________________________________________________
?Encuentra trabajo ya! Tenemos miles de vacantes.
www.trabajahoy.com




From yavass at YV1041.SPB.EDU  Fri Nov 25 23:29:20 2005
From: yavass at YV1041.SPB.EDU (Yaroslav Vassilkov)
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 05 02:29:20 +0300
Subject: How to change subscription options
In-Reply-To: <438064DF.5060706@univie.ac.at>
Message-ID: <161227077149.23782.16367534378312647937.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Many thanks to Birgit Kellner, Valerie J.Roebuck and Eliot N.Stern for 
their suggestions.
As Birgit and Eliot suggested, I used (once more) the "Quick link to 
add/remove/modify a subscription...".
It proved to be a blind alley. I was asked to confirm my wish to change 
the address by sending them a command
with a certain code number which had been given to me in the same 
latter. I did it, and then recieved  a note saying that
the code number was wrong. It was not.
I had the same results when I tried to do this  before I sent my quiery 
to the list.
Now I can only follow the way suggested by Valerie: to unsubscribe and 
then ask one of the commettee members to subscribe me.
Thank you very much again for your readiness to help.
Yaroslav

Birgit Kellner ?????:

> It should actually be possible to change your email address without 
> unsubscribing from the list (and then have one of the committee 
> members subscribe you with a different address).
>
> The following link leads to the page for updating subscription options:
> http://listserv.liv.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=indology
>
> This link can also be found on the INDOLOGY homepage, as "Quick link 
> to add/remove/modify a subscription to the listserv discussion forum" 
> on "INDOLOGY: core services".
>
> To update subscription options, you have to login first. If you access 
> your subscription options for the first time and have never received a 
> password before, you can get one by clicking on a link on the login form.
>
> All subscription options can be set this way, including e.g. whether 
> to receive the list in digest form, or (very useful) temporarily 
> suspending mail delivery during holidays.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Birgit Kellner
>
>
> Valerie J Roebuck wrote:
>
>> Dear Yaroslav
>>
>> A suggestion: in order to do this, I think you may have to 
>> unsubscribe from the list via your old email address and join it 
>> again from your new one.
>>
>> Valerie J Roebuck
>>
>> At 2:11 am +0300 20/11/05, Yaroslav Vassilkov wrote:
>>
>>> Dear colleagues,
>>> could anybody tell me how am I to change the address  of my 
>>> subscription?
>>> My old  e-mail postbox is practically blocked by spam for many months,
>>> I use for my correspondence another one, but all my attempts to 
>>> re-address
>>> my Indology subscription have failed. There seem to be no 
>>> instructions for it
>>> on the Indology homepage.
>>> Can you help?
>>> Yaroslav Vassilkov
>>
>>
>
>




From ucgadkw at UCL.AC.UK  Sat Nov 26 09:26:59 2005
From: ucgadkw at UCL.AC.UK (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 05 09:26:59 +0000
Subject: Epigraphia Carnatica CD-ROM
In-Reply-To: <CCA69194-2597-49A7-BE79-8E51C92932AD@let.leidenuniv.nl>
Message-ID: <161227077151.23782.14002039501600803544.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

A precis of Hultzsch's South-Indian Inscriptions is available free at

http://www.whatisindia.com/inscriptions/


D




From ucgadkw at UCL.AC.UK  Mon Nov 28 17:21:24 2005
From: ucgadkw at UCL.AC.UK (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 05 17:21:24 +0000
Subject: [Gentium] Update #3 - Current version re-released under the SIL              Open Font License (fwd)
Message-ID: <161227077153.23782.16115767016909242913.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Newly free unicode font.  Can be edited, etc. with no license problems.

DW



---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 13:58:00 +0000
From: Gentium-Announce List <owner-gentiumlist at lists.sil.org>
To: Gentium-Announce <gentium-announce at lists.sil.org>
Subject: [Gentium] Update #3 - Current version re-released under the SIL Open
      Font License

Gentium-Announce List
Update #3 - Current version re-released under the SIL Open Font License

- - - - - - - -

Dear friends of Gentium,

We're thrilled to announce that we have re-released Gentium under a
free/open-source license - the SIL Open Font License (OFL). This will give
much greater freedom to everyone using the fonts, and allow for easier
inclusion in free, open-source and commercial software packages.

The only changes we've made in addition to the licensing change were a
couple of bug fixes releated to PostScript glyph names and to the reported
italic angle.

All of this can be found at

      http://scripts.sil.org/gentium

We know that many of you have been waiting for eons for Bold and Bold
Italic, more ancient Greek letters (like the digamma), etc. We have been
working on these (very sporadically) over the last couple of years, but
they're not ready yet. We hope to have a greatly improved set of Regular and
Italic out mid next year, and then work on completing the additional
weights.

In the meantime, if the lack of one letter is hindering you, the OFL now
gives you the freedom to change the fonts, and even distribute modified
versions - with some conditions. We also warmly welcome your submissions of
work to be included in the main Gentium project. See the Status page on the
web site for details.

Thanks for your continued interest in Gentium.


Victor Gaultney
Gentium /at/ sil.org



#############################################################
This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to
    the mailing list <gentium-announce at lists.sil.org>.
To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <gentium-announce-off at lists.sil.org>
Send administrative queries to gentium at sil.org




From ucgadkw at UCL.AC.UK  Mon Nov 28 17:30:36 2005
From: ucgadkw at UCL.AC.UK (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 05 17:30:36 +0000
Subject: Forwarded advertisement
Message-ID: <161227077155.23782.3020692320087925990.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

--- Forwarded message ---
Bourses d'aide ? la recherche 2006-2007
de l'INSTITUT FRANCAIS de PONDICHERY (Inde)
L'Institut Fran?ais de Pondich?ry (IFP), institut de recherche 
pluridisciplinaire du Minist?re des Affaires Etrang?res propose :
Une bourse d'aide ? la recherche en
INDOLOGIE, TRADITIONS SAVANTES, M?DECINE
Cette bourse, disponible ? compter du 01/10/2006, est ouverte ? des 
doctorants et des post-doctorants en indologie (histoire et langues 
anciennes), sciences sociales, pour une dur?e d'un an renouvelable.
L'Institut conduit actuellement un programme de recherche transversal sur 
la constitution des espaces th?rapeutiques ? traditionnels ?. Ce champ de 
recherche poss?de un envergure r?gionale et repose sur un r?seau 
international de chercheurs (Asie du Sud et Europe). Le projet du candidat 
s'inscrira dans le cadre de ce programme, qu'il viendra renforcer et 
appuyer.
? Le projet portera sur les sources classiques, en sanscrit ou dans l'une 
des grandes langues vernaculaires de l'Inde, des savoirs - m?dicaux, 
astrologiques, climatiques, horticoles ou autres - et des pratiques de 
diagnostic, de pronostic et de th?rapeutique qui sont, en Inde 
aujourd'hui, int?gr?s dans le champ m?dical contemporain, pris au sens le 
plus large et dans ses dimensions religieuses ou environnementales par 
exemple.
? Le candidat aura des comp?tences confirm?es en indologie classique 
(?tudes sanscrites) ou dans l'une des grandes langues vernaculaires de 
l'Inde. Il devra manifester une capacit? ? travailler dans un cadre 
interdisciplinaire, ? mener de longues enqu?tes de terrain et ? participer 
? des t?ches collectives du D?partement (en particulier l'organisation de 
s?minaires et de colloques). Il fera montre d'une exp?rience de recherche 
sur le monde indien et/ou d'une connaissance tr?s approfondie (th?orie et 
ethnographie) des probl?matiques propos?es. La pratique courante de 
l'anglais est requise.
Pour plus d'information, consulter le site Internet de l'Institut 
(www.ifpindia.org).
Le dossier est ? demander soit par courrier aupr?s du Minist?re des 
Affaires Etrang?res, Sous-direction de la recherche (SUR/RSA) 244, 
boulevard Saint-Germain 75303 PARIS 07 SP, soit par t?l?copie au 
01.43.17.97.20, soit par e:mail : brigitte.myard at diplomatie.gouv.fr
Il doit ?tre rempli en 2 exemplaires :
-	1 exemplaire, accompagn? de toutes pi?ces utiles (publications, 
originaux des attestations, comptes-rendus de DEA ou de th?se) et d'un 
C.V. comportant in fine l'intitul? du projet adress? au Directeur de 
l'Institut fran?ais de Pondich?ry,
-	1 exemplaire, accompagn? d'un C.V. et des attestations comportant 
in fine l'intitul? du projet, ? la Division des Sciences Sociales et de 
l'Arch?ologie (? l'attention de Madame Brigitte MYARD) - 244, boulevard 
Saint-Germain - 75303 Paris 07 SP.
Le Conseil scientifique de l'Institut aura ? examiner cette candidature.
Date limite de d?p?t des candidatures : 30 f?vrier 2006






From mmdesh at UMICH.EDU  Tue Nov 29 01:59:26 2005
From: mmdesh at UMICH.EDU (Madhav Deshpande)
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 05 01:59:26 +0000
Subject: Professor G.B. Palsule passed away in Pune
Message-ID: <161227077157.23782.12097610616887456518.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

I just read in the internet version of the Marathi newspaper Sakal (esakal.com) that Professor
G.B. Palsule passed away in Pune on Nov 28, 2006 at the age of 85.  A memorial meeting is
to be held at the Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute in Pune on Dec 2.

Madhav Deshpande




From jenni.cover at URNET.COM.AU  Tue Nov 29 23:37:12 2005
From: jenni.cover at URNET.COM.AU (Jenni Cover)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 05 10:37:12 +1100
Subject: Decoding date in Sanskrit verse
Message-ID: <161227077159.23782.13213719959123214268.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Greetings,

Can anyone help decode the date in this verse (from the commentary, written
by Divakara, on Bodhasara, written by Narahari).
 
Sake gajatrimunibhUmimite tu varshe
rAmAdrinAgaSaSacihnamite tapasye
pakshe site sutaSaSAnkatithau jnavAre 
vyAkhyA samAptimagamadvibudhaikavandyA 
 
I think the first line says: In the year 1738 in the shAka era, which
becomes 1816 in our calendar. (gaja =8, tri=3,muni=7,bhUmi=1) 
In the second line tapasya can mean the month phAlguna (feb/mar). 
In the third line pakshe site can mean the bright half of the lunar month,
jnavAre can mean Wednesday 
vyAkhyA = gloss or commentary, samAptim=finished, completed 
 
Thankyou,
Jenni Cover,
PhD Student, University of Sydney, Australia
 
When it comes welcome it. 
Do not hinder it as it goes. 
In whatever form it comes, everything and everyone is gladly accepted. 
This is the best discipline.
 
from Bodhasara by Narahari
 




From acharyadiwakar at HOTMAIL.COM  Wed Nov 30 15:21:01 2005
From: acharyadiwakar at HOTMAIL.COM (diwakar acharya)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 05 16:21:01 +0100
Subject: Decoding date in Sanskrit verse
In-Reply-To: <E1EhF2G-0006NF-00@emu.urnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <161227077161.23782.7944365523793681914.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

"rAmAdrinAgaSaSacihnamite" (rAma =3, adri=7, nAga=8, SaSacihna=1) gives 
vikrama 1873 and
"sutaSaSAnkatithau" gives .sa.s.thii.

Best,

Diwakar




===============================
Diwakar Acharya
NGMCP
Abteilung f. Kultur u. Geschichte Indiens u. Tibets
Asia-Africa Institute
University of Hamburg





>From: Jenni Cover <jenni.cover at URNET.COM.AU>
>Reply-To: Indology <INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk>
>To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk
>Subject: Decoding date in Sanskrit verse
>Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:37:12 +1100
>
>Greetings,
>
>Can anyone help decode the date in this verse (from the commentary, written
>by Divakara, on Bodhasara, written by Narahari).
>
>Sake gajatrimunibhUmimite tu varshe
>rAmAdrinAgaSaSacihnamite tapasye
>pakshe site sutaSaSAnkatithau jnavAre
>vyAkhyA samAptimagamadvibudhaikavandyA
>
>I think the first line says: In the year 1738 in the shAka era, which
>becomes 1816 in our calendar. (gaja =8, tri=3,muni=7,bhUmi=1)
>In the second line tapasya can mean the month phAlguna (feb/mar).
>In the third line pakshe site can mean the bright half of the lunar month,
>jnavAre can mean Wednesday
>vyAkhyA = gloss or commentary, samAptim=finished, completed
>
>Thankyou,
>Jenni Cover,
>PhD Student, University of Sydney, Australia
>
>When it comes welcome it.
>Do not hinder it as it goes.
>In whatever form it comes, everything and everyone is gladly accepted.
>This is the best discipline.
>
>from Bodhasara by Narahari
>




From Martin.Gansten at TEOL.LU.SE  Wed Nov 30 16:18:24 2005
From: Martin.Gansten at TEOL.LU.SE (Martin Gansten)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 05 17:18:24 +0100
Subject: Decoding date in Sanskrit verse
In-Reply-To: <E1EhF2G-0006NF-00@emu.urnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <161227077163.23782.8821473535382301068.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

There seem to be two eras (Saka and Vikrama) used in this verse:
gaja-tri-muni-bhUmi, as you say, is 1738 (Saka), while
rAma-adri-nAga-SaSacihna is 1873 (Vikrama). The third line gives the
half-month (waxing moon), tithi, and day of the week (Wednesday). I am less
certain of the number of the tithi, as I have never before seen suta used
for a numerical value. It might be 5 (referring to the 5th house of a
horoscope), but on the whole I rather think not, particularly as one does
not normally speak of 'the 15th tithi'. Another guess would be that suta =
savana, and therefore 3. This would give us shukla-trayodashi coinciding
with a Wednesday. Unfortunately we do not get a nakshatra.

Without knowing what starting point of the year, or of the months, the
author used, the dating becomes a bit speculative; but for a
shukla-trayodashi Wednesday, one possibility would be 12 February, 1816.
Perhaps someone more knowledgeable than myself will be able to tell us what
calendaric norms were in use at the text's time and place of origin.

Regards,
Martin Gansten




From gruenen at MAIL.SUB.UNI-GOETTINGEN.DE  Wed Nov 16 11:31:22 2005
From: gruenen at MAIL.SUB.UNI-GOETTINGEN.DE (=?utf-8?Q?Dr=2E_Reinhard_Gr=C3=BCnendahl?=)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 05 12:31:22 +0100
Subject: chinese website
In-Reply-To: <37BB7008218B6145BA7AADC53FC9CE253227DA@lsa-m5.lsa.adsroot.itcs.umich.edu>
Message-ID: <161227077091.23782.14757545371866250762.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

> Yesterday I downloaded a 200+ mb file "fahua.rar" from this website, but I have no idea what program will open this ".rar" file.  Any suggestions?

This is the compression format of WinRar (see www.rarlab.com)

The Chinese website is now included in this library's  list of internet resources 
(address see below)

May I take the opportunity to ask all members of this list to please send me internet 
addresses of indological institutions in France? As you may know, Gerard Huet 
closed his useful list a while ago.

Many thanks in advance
Reinhold Gr?nendahl


********************************************************************

Dr. Reinhold Gruenendahl
Niedersaechsische Staats- und Universitaetsbibliothek
Fachreferat sued- und suedostasiatische Philologien
(Dept. of Indology)

37070 G?ttingen, Germany
Tel (+49) (0)5 51 / 39 52 83
Fax (+49) (0)5 51 / 39 23 61
gruenen at mail.sub.uni-goettingen.de

FACH-INFORMATIONEN INDOLOGIE, GOETTINGEN:
http://www.sub.uni-goettingen.de/ebene_1/fiindolo/fiindolo.htm
In English:
http://www.sub.uni-goettingen.de/ebene_1/fiindolo/fiindole.htm

GRETIL - Goettingen Register of Electronic Texts in Indian Languages
http://www.sub.uni-goettingen.de/ebene_1/fiindolo/gretil.htm




From Srilata.mueller at URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE  Thu Nov 17 08:25:10 2005
From: Srilata.mueller at URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (Srilata M=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=FCller?=)
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 05 09:25:10 +0100
Subject: Mystery Manuscripts
Message-ID: <161227077116.23782.890740479528002310.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

The first manuscript is Tamil but also has Tamil Grantha letters and seems to be
fairly legible. It should not be difficult to decipher for any one who knows
Tamil Grantha.

with regards,

Srilata Raman
Lecturer in Sanskrit
Department of Classical Indology
Heidelberg University

Deviprasad wrote:

> It seems to me, is a Tamil Manuscript. If you can post
> the whole beginning folio of this manuscript then I can read and send you in
> a written form.
>
> Thanks
>
> yours
> Deviprasad
>
> Deviprasad Mishra
> Research Assistant
> French Institute,
> # 11 Saint Louis Street
> P. B - 33, Pondicherry 605 001
> Ph: +91-413-2331307/2334168
> Cell - 09443068996
> Fax: +91-413 2339534
> www.ifpindia.org
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Huntington" <huntington.2 at OSU.EDU>
> To: <INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk>
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 4:58 AM
> Subject: Mystery Manuscripts
>
> > Dear Indological Colleagues,
> >
> > A prospective Graduate student for our program has asked for help in
> > identifying the languages of two manuscripts in her university's
> > library collection. While I suspect possibly Burmese and either Pali
> > or Sinhala, both are completely outside of my linguistic ken
> >
> > We have posted them at:
> >
> >
> http://huntingtonarchive.osu.edu/Mystery_Manuscript/Mystery_Manuscript.html
> >
> > All the library wants in the language group but anything else that
> > can provided easily  will be much appreciated.
> >
> > If it is of interest, both seen to be complete.
> >
> > Thank you in advance
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > --
> > John C. Huntington, Professor
> >     (Buddhist Art and Methodologies)
> > The Ohio State University
> >
> > Please visit the Huntington Archive website at:
> > http://huntingtonarchive.osu.edu
> >
> >