From dean_anderson at SACARI.ORG Sat Jan 1 01:23:01 2005 From: dean_anderson at SACARI.ORG (Dean Anderson) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 04 19:23:01 -0600 Subject: Red ochre In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <161227075643.23782.9806229862841313697.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Matthew, I read the work you cited and found it very interesting. >Perhaps an additional point of comparison, pertinent in the >present context, is the later medieval ritual use of sinduura >powder in India -- in Buddhist tantric contexts it is a >substance particularly consecrated to the .daakinii. Can anyone refer me to works that discuss the origins of sinduura and what it symbolizes in India? Or of the use of red ochre in general across the various cultures? Do Buddhist texts specify why it is consecrated to the .daakinii? Best, Dean From plamen at ORIENTALIA.ORG Sun Jan 2 09:46:51 2005 From: plamen at ORIENTALIA.ORG (Plamen Gradinarov) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 05 11:46:51 +0200 Subject: Indology.Net Subdomains Message-ID: <161227075646.23782.11855983819221191676.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> To celebrate the New 2005 Year, Eurasia Academic Publishers have launched free subdomain service in the following formats: you.indology.net yourtext.sacredtexts.org you.at.orientalia.org Please, visit http://www.indology.net/subdomains and reserve your subdomain name Examples: Instead of http://users.primushost.com/~india/ejvs/issues.html one can have the short: http://ejvs.indology.net Best Regards and Happy New Year! Plamen Gradinarov Ph.D., D.Sc., Assoc. Prof., Publisher Eurasia Academic Publishers From mkapstei at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Sun Jan 2 17:58:28 2005 From: mkapstei at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Matthew Kapstein) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 05 11:58:28 -0600 Subject: Red ochre In-Reply-To: <000001c4efa0$723cf5a0$0300000a@LIFEBOOK> Message-ID: <161227075648.23782.9592820064841306361.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> On Fri, 31 Dec 2004, Dean Anderson wrote: > Do Buddhist texts specify why it is consecrated to the .daakinii? > According to a tradition that I know from Tibetan works on materia medica, and which I think in this case must be based on Indian sources I have not yet identified, sinduura is a pure, vivifying and healing substance because it is derived from the menstrual blood of Vajrayoginii. (I don't know of any secondary works that deal with this, but it is entirely consonant with the broader Indian tantric symbolism of sinduura, on which see, e.g., David White, The Alchemical Body (index sub "sinduura").) In any event, these properties account for its medical use, especially in the treatment of wounds. This also, of course, relates to a wider Indian tradition. See, e.g., zabdakalpadruma, vol. V, p. 353 sub "sinduura", where it is qualified as "vra.nazodhanaroha.nam"--used in the cleansing and healing of wounds. Matthew Kapstein From srangan at YORKU.CA Mon Jan 3 16:40:32 2005 From: srangan at YORKU.CA (Shyam Ranganathan) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 05 11:40:32 -0500 Subject: Kasmiri Saiva Philosophy Message-ID: <161227075650.23782.4981633512261506817.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear Indology list members I require help in reviewing an article on Kasmiri Saiva Philosophy. If anyone can help me in this endeavour, please respond to me off list: shyamr at sympatico.ca Thank you Shyam ************************************************************************* Shyam Ranganathan Department of Philosophy, York University, Toronto (http://shyam.org/) Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy (http://www.iep.utm.edu/1/editors.htm) (http://www.yorku.ca/srangan/DesiredArticleList.htm) ************************************************************************* From d.wujastyk at UCL.AC.UK Tue Jan 4 11:51:50 2005 From: d.wujastyk at UCL.AC.UK (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 05 11:51:50 +0000 Subject: Weekend closure of INDOLOGY website, 8/9th January 2005 Message-ID: <161227075653.23782.14811205083099850564.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> The INDOLOGY website is hosted by the WWW servers of University College London. The UCL computing department has issued the following notice, which means that the INDOLOGY website will be unavailable (or intermittent) during the next weekend: Weekend of 8th/9th January 2005 CLOSURE of Computing Facilities ------------------------------- Information Systems is planning a weekend outage of computing and networking services in order to undertake remedial electrical work. This entails switching off the power to the machine room which will mean a SHUTDOWN OF ALL CENTRAL COMPUTING SERVICES from 17.00hrs on Friday 7th January until 19:00hrs on Sunday 9th January. During this period, all IS systems, including central electronic mail services, will be unavailable and NETWORKING SERVICES WILL BE AT RISK. For more information see http://www.ucl.ac.uk/is/news/jan-outage.htm From bb145 at COLUMBIA.EDU Tue Jan 4 19:22:28 2005 From: bb145 at COLUMBIA.EDU (Bindu Bhat) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 05 14:22:28 -0500 Subject: Looking for issues of the Hindi journal "Sarasvati" from the 1960s In-Reply-To: <41DACB5B.1020702@univie.ac.at> Message-ID: <161227075657.23782.7870668672496675609.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear Birgit, Sarasvati is held by several libraries in the United States. The issues from 1900-1957 are also available on microfiche at Library of Congress and Center for Research Libraries. The paper copies of some of the issues are available at: Location Library Code NY COLUMBIA UNIV ZCU NY CORNELL UNIV COO CA UNIV OF CALIFORNIA, BERKELEY CUY HI UNIV OF HAWAII AT MANOA HUH IL CENTER FOR RES LIBR CRL IL UNIV OF CHICAGO CGU MI UNIV OF MICHIGAN LIBR EYM NC DUKE UNIV LIBR NDD TX UNIV OF TEXAS AT AUSTIN IXA WI UNIV OF WISCONSIN, MADISON GZM Aftre searching the catalogues of these libraries, I have come to a conclusion that Cornell University and Univ. of Chicago have paper holdings of the issues you are looking for. Some other libraries may also have them but their opac doesn't give details of their holdings. If you are looking for Rahulji's travel to Tibet, you may find some information in the following book: Esiya ke durgama bhukhandom mem / Rahula Sankrtyayana. Nai Dilli : Bharatiya Prakasana Samsthana, 1995. Thanks, Bindu ????? 2005 17:59 +0100 Birgit Kellner wrote: > Dear fellow list-members, > > I was wondering whether anyone has access to issues from the 1960s of > the Hindi journal "Sarasvati", which is most likely ISSN 05586496, > published in Ilahabada, by Indiyana Presa (Pablikesana) Praiveta > Limiteda, 1900-1980 (information from COPAC). > > Specifically, I am trying to locate a series of 14 articles written by > the photographer Fany/Feni Mukherjee (also known as Pheni Moukherji, and > in various other orthographic disguises) who accompanied Rahula > Sankrtyayana to Tibet in 1938. This series of travel reports has the > title "Rahulji ke sath Tibbat ke abhiyan mem". Unfortunately I don't > know exactly which volumes of Sarasvati contain them; all I know is that > the issues of June, October, November and December 1963, as well as > January, February and July 1964 contain some. > > COPAC records the following holdings for the British library: > > "St. Pancras Reading Rooms ; HIN ST 2 OIOC // > Holdings: 11, no.10 (1967/Oct. 1910)-82 (2037/1980). Incomplete" > > If anyone with access to the British library (who coincidentally happens > to go there sometime during the next weeks ...) could check which of the > issues mentioned above are there, and how complete the library's 1960s > holdings are, or if anyone has information about other libraries that > may have this journal, or knows whether Mukherjee's reports have been > published in any other form - well, for any help that gets me closer to > digital or paper copies of these articles, I would be very grateful. > > Best regards, > > Birgit Kellner From baums at U.WASHINGTON.EDU Tue Jan 4 23:10:21 2005 From: baums at U.WASHINGTON.EDU (Stefan Baums) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 05 15:10:21 -0800 Subject: e-mail address of Prof. Aklujkar In-Reply-To: <41DB1D0F.6060406@YV1041.spb.edu> Message-ID: <161227075662.23782.11945072822801768266.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> > could anybody give me e-mail address of Professor Ashok > Aklujkar? ashok.aklujkar AT ubc DOT ca -- Stefan Baums Asian Languages and Literature University of Washington From birgit.kellner at UNIVIE.AC.AT Tue Jan 4 16:59:07 2005 From: birgit.kellner at UNIVIE.AC.AT (Birgit Kellner) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 05 17:59:07 +0100 Subject: Looking for issues of the Hindi journal "Sarasvati" from the 1960s Message-ID: <161227075655.23782.6593808679885438882.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear fellow list-members, I was wondering whether anyone has access to issues from the 1960s of the Hindi journal "Sarasvati", which is most likely ISSN 05586496, published in Ilahabada, by Indiyana Presa (Pablikesana) Praiveta Limiteda, 1900-1980 (information from COPAC). Specifically, I am trying to locate a series of 14 articles written by the photographer Fany/Feni Mukherjee (also known as Pheni Moukherji, and in various other orthographic disguises) who accompanied Rahula Sankrtyayana to Tibet in 1938. This series of travel reports has the title "Rahulji ke sath Tibbat ke abhiyan mem". Unfortunately I don't know exactly which volumes of Sarasvati contain them; all I know is that the issues of June, October, November and December 1963, as well as January, February and July 1964 contain some. COPAC records the following holdings for the British library: "St. Pancras Reading Rooms ; HIN ST 2 OIOC // Holdings: 11, no.10 (1967/Oct. 1910)-82 (2037/1980). Incomplete" If anyone with access to the British library (who coincidentally happens to go there sometime during the next weeks ...) could check which of the issues mentioned above are there, and how complete the library's 1960s holdings are, or if anyone has information about other libraries that may have this journal, or knows whether Mukherjee's reports have been published in any other form - well, for any help that gets me closer to digital or paper copies of these articles, I would be very grateful. Best regards, Birgit Kellner From mmdesh at UMICH.EDU Tue Jan 4 23:42:36 2005 From: mmdesh at UMICH.EDU (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 05 18:42:36 -0500 Subject: e-mail address of Prof. Aklujkar Message-ID: <161227075665.23782.15481993540995609108.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> The email address for Ashok Aklujkar that I use is: aklujkar at interchange.ubc.ca Madhav Deshpande -----Original Message----- From: Indology on behalf of Yaroslav Vassilkov Sent: Tue 1/4/2005 5:47 PM To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk Subject: e-mail address of Prof. Aklujkar Dear List-members, could anybody give me e-mail address of Professor Ashok Aklujkar? Many thanks in advance. Yaroslav Vassilkov From yavass at YV1041.SPB.EDU Tue Jan 4 22:47:43 2005 From: yavass at YV1041.SPB.EDU (Yaroslav Vassilkov) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 05 01:47:43 +0300 Subject: e-mail address of Prof. Aklujkar In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <161227075660.23782.14366745764798529990.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear List-members, could anybody give me e-mail address of Professor Ashok Aklujkar? Many thanks in advance. Yaroslav Vassilkov From Palaniappa at AOL.COM Wed Jan 5 07:05:46 2005 From: Palaniappa at AOL.COM (Sudalaimuthu Palaniappan) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 05 02:05:46 -0500 Subject: On the history of Kanchi Sankara Matha Message-ID: <161227075670.23782.4412267232422224726.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear colleagues, There have been past discussions in this list regarding the history of Sankara matha at Kanchi. Specifically, the issue has been whether the present matha ever existed in Kanchi before its move from Kumbakonam. The Kanchi matha's claim is that it moved to Kumbakonam from Kanchi and then moved back to Kanchi. The Sringeri matha's claim is that the matha at Kumbakonam was a branch of the Sringeri matha. I am presenting below details from an important inscription dated 1492 AD (no. 110 of 1927-28) which sheds valuable light on this issue. According to this inscription, a person called Sri Purushottama Bharati Sri Padamkal (zrI puruSOtama bhArati zrI pAdamkaL) of Kumbakonam Ishtaka Matha (iSTakA maTha) made a donation to the deity Sarasvati at a Sarasvati temple. The inscription is at least two centuries older than the Maratha period inscriptions usually discussed regarding this issue. The honorific 'Sri Padamkal' indicates he must have been a respected religious personage. The name Sri Purushottama Bharati coincidentally is the same as that of the head of the Sringeri matha from 1479-1517 according to the matha web site http://www.sringeri.org/guru-par.htm. The Kanchi matha claims that its heads had the title "Indra Sarasvati". Given the title Bharati in this inscription, it is obvious that this matha was affiliated with Sringeri. The donation to the deity Sarasvati might be only a coincidence or might indicate a special affiliation to Sarasvati which might presage the future adoption of the title Sarasvati at the Kumbakonam matha. This inscription seems to support the claim of Sringeri matha with respect to the original affiliation of a dasanami matha at Kumbakonam. By the way, the name 'iSTakA maTha' is interesting too. Does anyone know of a ny other matha being called 'iSTakA matha'? Thanks in advance. Regards S. Palaniappan From swantam at ASIANETINDIA.COM Wed Jan 5 00:38:15 2005 From: swantam at ASIANETINDIA.COM (Maheswaran Nair) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 05 05:38:15 +0500 Subject: reading Sanskrit text Message-ID: <161227075668.23782.3193043861688067565.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Hello, I will be at Oxford Centre for Hindu Studies from 14th January to 14th March as Shivadasani fellow (Hilary term 2005).Willing to read Patanjali's Yogasutra and Dharmarajadhvarin's Vedantaparibhasha ouside my normal duty hours.those interested may contact in my personal e-mail. K.Maheswaran Nair Professor of Sanskrit & Director Centre for Vedanta Studies Unniversity of Kerala, India. E-mail iswaran at rediffmail.com From d.wujastyk at UCL.AC.UK Wed Jan 5 09:06:20 2005 From: d.wujastyk at UCL.AC.UK (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 05 09:06:20 +0000 Subject: On the history of Kanchi Sankara Matha In-Reply-To: <1e9.32a05d35.2f0cebca@aol.com> Message-ID: <161227075672.23782.5320746270920743671.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Sudalaimuthu Palaniappan wrote: > Dear colleagues, > [...] > By the way, the name 'iSTakA maTha' is interesting too. Does anyone know of a > ny other matha being called 'iSTakA matha'? Dear Palaniappan, I've been puzzling over a reading in the manuscripts of the Rogaarogavaada by Viire"svara, where the author states that he is from a village called i.s.takaapatha or i.s.takaayatha (see http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucgadkw/istakapatha.jpg). I wonder if there is any connection. Probably not, but I thought I'd mention it. I'm also puzzled by "[dho|dyo]sarihaa" in the Rogarogavada line. Does anyone have any suggestions? Best, Dominik From athr at LOC.GOV Wed Jan 5 17:05:47 2005 From: athr at LOC.GOV (Allen W Thrasher) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 05 12:05:47 -0500 Subject: On the history of Kanchi Sankara Matha Message-ID: <161227075682.23782.15161586574513152763.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> The lengths of reigns seem extraordinarily long. Are they, and the number of generations from the founder to the present, comparable to what are claimed for other maths in the Shankara and other traditions? Religious celibates to seem to live long in the West (at least to judge from the 19th and 20th c. tombstones in the graveyards of various male and female religious communities I've wandered through). But are the Kanchi Acharyas traditionally appointed as quite young men? If not, and they were appointed as mature or middle-aged men, some of the lengths of tenure would get them to truly astounding ages. A quick and not careful count of the kings of England from almost the same date gets 73 kings, queens, and lords protector, double the number of Shankaracharyas. Of course, the former probably often ate and drank too much, sometimes spent too much time exposed to the elements on campaigns, and often died in war or by assasination. So I'm interested in the length of acharyas of other monastic institutions. Allen Allen W. Thrasher, Ph.D. Senior Reference Librarian Southern Asia Section Asian Division Library of Congress Jefferson Building 150 101 Independence Ave., S.E. Washington, DC 20540-4810 tel. 202-707-3732 fax 202-707-1724 athr at loc.gov The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of the Library of Congress. From dean_anderson at SACARI.ORG Wed Jan 5 18:47:29 2005 From: dean_anderson at SACARI.ORG (Dean Anderson) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 05 12:47:29 -0600 Subject: On the history of Kanchi Sankara Matha In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <161227075690.23782.3221541711932013727.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> The tradition at the Kanchi Math, as it was explained to me by the assistant to the 'younger' Shankaracarya when I visited, is that the 'older' Shankaracarya chooses his successor at a young age and raises him. When he reaches adulthood, they both officiate although the older usually has precedence. The tradition there is that after founding the other four Maths under his four main disciples, Shankara retired to Kanchi and took one more young disciple who later became the Shankaracarya of Kanchi which is the origin of their tradition of two Shankaracaryas at the 'fifth' Math which is not always included in the lists of Maths. There are certainly many examples of Indian celibates living to very old ages although there are, of course, many counterexamples as well. Longevity is hardly surprising since they are expected to eat moderately, practice exercises such as yoga asanas and meditation and knowledge of herbal and preventative medicine were also common. All of these have been shown by western medicine to contribute to health. Dominik can probably speak more authoritatively on some of this. In any case, the combination of a long life with an early accession to the Shankaracarya's seat might help explain your observation. Best, Dean Anderson >-----Original Message----- >From: Indology [mailto:INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >Allen W Thrasher >Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 11:06 AM >To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk >Subject: Re: On the history of Kanchi Sankara Matha > > >The lengths of reigns seem extraordinarily long. Are they, >and the number of generations from the founder to the present, >comparable to what are claimed for other maths in the Shankara >and other traditions? Religious celibates to seem to live long >in the West (at least to judge from the 19th and 20th c. >tombstones in the graveyards of various male and female >religious communities I've wandered through). But are the >Kanchi Acharyas traditionally appointed as quite young men? >If not, and they were appointed as mature or middle-aged men, >some of the lengths of tenure would get them to truly >astounding ages. A quick and not careful count of the kings of England from almost the same date > gets >73 kings, >queens, and lords protector, double the number of >Shankaracharyas. Of course, the former probably often ate and >drank too much, sometimes spent too much time exposed to the >elements on campaigns, and often died in war or by >assasination. So I'm interested in the length of acharyas of >other monastic institutions. > >Allen > > > >Allen W. Thrasher, Ph.D. >Senior Reference Librarian >Southern Asia Section >Asian Division >Library of Congress >Jefferson Building 150 >101 Independence Ave., S.E. >Washington, DC 20540-4810 >tel. 202-707-3732 >fax 202-707-1724 >athr at loc.gov >The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of the >Library of Congress. > From ddsg at SATYAM.NET.IN Wed Jan 5 07:20:16 2005 From: ddsg at SATYAM.NET.IN (Dominic Goodall) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 05 12:50:16 +0530 Subject: The Paraakhyatantra A Scripture of the Saiva Siddhaanta Message-ID: <161227075685.23782.11052549356200600568.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> The following publication has recently appeared (December 2004) and is available from the French Institute of Pondicherry () or through Motilal Banarsidass. The Par?khyatantra A Scripture of the Saiva Siddh?nta, A critical edition and annotated translation by Dominic GOODALL. Pondicherry, Institut Fran?ais de Pondich?ry/ Ecole fran?aise d?Extr?me-Orient, 2004. Collection Indologie 98. cxxvi+669pp. Indian Rupees 1000. This volume furnishes one more previously unpublished document of the pre-tenth-century thought-world of the Saiva Siddh?nta, a religion that was spread across and beyond the Indian subcontinent at the probable time of this work's composition. For the Par?khyatantra dates from the period before the appearance of the most significant body of theological exegesis in the history of the school, namely the writings of the tenth-century Kashmirian lineage of Bha.t.ta R?maka.n.tha II. The addition of the Par?khya to the still small corpus of published early Saiddh?ntika writings should be a welcome event to the student of classical Indian religions. What is presented here, however, is not the whole text but only those chapters of it that deal with doctrine and yoga. Those on ritual and other aspects of religious practice have not been transmitted in the unique codex - a beautiful palm-leaf manuscript in minute Nandin?gar? script - and are therefore lost. Many quotations from the text have been located in later literature, and a fully positive apparatus reports the readings of all sources. A complete English translation - the first to appear of an early Siddh?ntatantra - accompanies the Sanskrit text. Copious notes discuss textual difficulties and problems of interpretation. In doing so, they draw on parallels with other Saiddh?ntika writings, both published and unpublished. The introduction places the Par?khya in its context, gives a r?sum? of the work, characterises its language and concludes with a detailed discussion of the sources and of how they have been used. Dr. Dominic Goodall, Head, Centre of Pondicherry, Ecole fran?aise d'Extr?me-Orient, 19 Dumas Street, P.O. Box 151, Pondicherry 605001, INDIA. Tel. 0091 413 2334539. Fax 0091 413 2330886. From ddsg at SATYAM.NET.IN Wed Jan 5 07:22:16 2005 From: ddsg at SATYAM.NET.IN (Dominic Goodall) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 05 12:52:16 +0530 Subject: The Yoga of the Maalinivijayottaratantra Message-ID: <161227075688.23782.13410978224175088449.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> The following publication has recently appeared (December 2004) and is available from the French Institute of Pondicherry () or through Motilal Banarsidass. The Yoga of the M?lin?vijayottaratantra, Chapters 1-4, 7, 11-17. Critical edition, Translation and Notes. by Somadeva VASUDEVA. Pondicherry, Institut Fran?ais de Pondich?ry/ Ecole fran?aise d?Extr?me-Orient, 2004. Collection Indologie 97. liv+561pp. Indian Rupees 700. Herein is presented the first detailed investigation into the yogic teachings of the M?lin?vijayottaratantra, a Saiva Tantra of the Trika commented on extensively by the celebrated Kashmirian philosopher Abhinavagupta (9-10th century AD). But it is also a major contribution to the as yet little studied field of Saiva yoga. The Sanskrit source text (M?lin?vijayottara 14, 7, and 1217) has been critically edited from the Kashmirian manuscripts that are today accessible. The edition is prefaced by a description of the manuscripts used and the editorial policies followed. A running commentary adds further explanatory material, parallel passages from related Saiva Tantras (many unpublished) and attempts to tackle problems raised by Abhinavagupta?s exegesis. Dr. Dominic Goodall, Head, Centre of Pondicherry, Ecole fran?aise d'Extr?me-Orient, 19 Dumas Street, P.O. Box 151, Pondicherry 605001, INDIA. Tel. 0091 413 2334539. Fax 0091 413 2330886. From athr at LOC.GOV Wed Jan 5 19:00:06 2005 From: athr at LOC.GOV (Allen W Thrasher) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 05 14:00:06 -0500 Subject: On the history of Kanchi Sankara Matha Message-ID: <161227075693.23782.3396651251608227122.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> That explains it, then. Sort of like the yuvaraja in the secular kingship (and note Ron Inden's notion that the monks take over the kingly role of head of Hindu society under Muslim rule). Or a vanaprasthya or second sannyasa for a sannyasi. Allen >>> dean_anderson at SACARI.ORG 1/5/2005 1:47:29 PM >>> The tradition at the Kanchi Math, as it was explained to me by the assistant to the 'younger' Shankaracarya when I visited, is that the 'older' Shankaracarya chooses his successor at a young age and raises him. When he reaches adulthood, they both officiate although the older usually has precedence. The tradition there is that after founding the other four Maths under his four main disciples, Shankara retired to Kanchi and took one more young disciple who later became the Shankaracarya of Kanchi which is the origin of their tradition of two Shankaracaryas at the 'fifth' Math which is not always included in the lists of Maths. There are certainly many examples of Indian celibates living to very old ages although there are, of course, many counterexamples as well. Longevity is hardly surprising since they are expected to eat moderately, practice exercises such as yoga asanas and meditation and knowledge of herbal and preventative medicine were also common. All of these have been shown by western medicine to contribute to health. Dominik can probably speak more authoritatively on some of this. In any case, the combination of a long life with an early accession to the Shankaracarya's seat might help explain your observation. Best, Dean Anderson >-----Original Message----- >From: Indology [mailto:INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >Allen W Thrasher >Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 11:06 AM >To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk >Subject: Re: On the history of Kanchi Sankara Matha > > >The lengths of reigns seem extraordinarily long. Are they, >and the number of generations from the founder to the present, >comparable to what are claimed for other maths in the Shankara >and other traditions? Religious celibates to seem to live long >in the West (at least to judge from the 19th and 20th c. >tombstones in the graveyards of various male and female >religious communities I've wandered through). But are the >Kanchi Acharyas traditionally appointed as quite young men? >If not, and they were appointed as mature or middle-aged men, >some of the lengths of tenure would get them to truly >astounding ages. A quick and not careful count of the kings of England from almost the same date > gets >73 kings, >queens, and lords protector, double the number of >Shankaracharyas. Of course, the former probably often ate and >drank too much, sometimes spent too much time exposed to the >elements on campaigns, and often died in war or by >assasination. So I'm interested in the length of acharyas of >other monastic institutions. > >Allen > > > >Allen W. Thrasher, Ph.D. >Senior Reference Librarian >Southern Asia Section >Asian Division >Library of Congress >Jefferson Building 150 >101 Independence Ave., S.E. >Washington, DC 20540-4810 >tel. 202-707-3732 >fax 202-707-1724 >athr at loc.gov >The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of the >Library of Congress. > From a.griffiths at THEOL.RUG.NL Wed Jan 5 16:07:21 2005 From: a.griffiths at THEOL.RUG.NL (Arlo Griffiths) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 05 17:07:21 +0100 Subject: e-text of Kutubana [Qutban]'s Miragaavatii In-Reply-To: <20050105213827.E1FC.MTOKUNAG@bun.kyoto-u.ac.jp> Message-ID: <161227075679.23782.7703299176896131150.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> An e-text of the Old Avadhii Miragaavatii input by Joris ter Linden (Leiden) and myself, and proofread by Dick Plukker (Amsterdam), has been put on-line a few days ago in the text-archive of the Electronic Resources for Hindi and Other South Asian Languages at . If all goes well, this e-text will soon be available via GRETIL as well. Arlo Griffiths Institute of Indian Studies University of Groningen Oude Boteringestraat 23 9712 GC Groningen the Netherlands email: a.griffiths at theol.rug.nl phone: +31-50-3635587 From mtokunag at BUN.KYOTO-U.AC.JP Wed Jan 5 14:09:18 2005 From: mtokunag at BUN.KYOTO-U.AC.JP (Muneo TOKUNAGA) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 05 23:09:18 +0900 Subject: On the history of Kanchi Sankara Matha In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <161227075676.23782.7274578412133522931.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> > I've been puzzling over a reading in the manuscripts of the Rogaarogavaada > by Viire"svara, where the author states that he is from a village called > i.s.takaapatha or i.s.takaayatha (see > http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucgadkw/istakapatha.jpg). I wonder if there is any > connection. Probably not, but I thought I'd mention it. > > I'm also puzzled by "[dho|dyo]sarihaa" in the Rogarogavada line. Does > anyone have any suggestions? It's really hard to read this passage. Given up for now. ISTikApatha, alias Pathezvara, in Kashmir is on the bank of the river PuNyodA about 20km east of the Wular Lake (MahApadmasaras), no.136 of the map in A Study of the NIlamatapurANa, ed by Y.Ikari (Kyoto,1994). On ISTikApatha cf. also RT 3.467 and Stein's note, besides NM 118 (de Vreese, vs.122 in Ved Kumari) mentioned in your note. (Sorry, I am wandering from Dr.Palaniappan's question.) Tokunaga Kyoto P.S. You can download digital files of GuNaratna's commentary TarkarahasyadIpikA on Haribhadra's SaDdarzanasamuccaya and the KAzikAvRtti (ed. by Aryendra Sharma, 1969) from http://tiger.bun.kyoto-u.ac.jp/mtokunag/skt_texts. Both files (not proofread) are only ancillary, for the purpose of word search, to the published texts just like my other digital files. -- Muneo TOKUNAGA From Burkhard.Quessel at BL.UK Thu Jan 6 11:48:35 2005 From: Burkhard.Quessel at BL.UK (Quessel, Burkhard) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 05 11:48:35 +0000 Subject: Looking for issues of the Hindi journal "Sarasvati" from the 1960s Message-ID: <161227075695.23782.6194412587043772695.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear Birgit, This is what the British Library has of Pheni Moukherji's articles(shelfmark "Hin St 2"): part 1 1963, June [vol 64/1 pp. 518-523] 2 1963, July [vol 64/2 pp. 63-67] 3 1963, August -- missing 4 1963, September [vol 64/2 pp. 243-249] 5 1963, October [vol 64/2 pp. 341-345] 6 1963, November [vol 64/2 pp. 436-442] 7 1963, December -- missing 8 1964, January [vol 65/1 pp. 51-59] 9 1964, February [vol 65/1 pp. 147-155] 10 1964, March [vol 65/1 pp. 249-255] 11 1964, April [vol 65/1 pp. 349-355] 12 1964, May [vol 65/1 pp. 456-461] 13 1964, June [vol 65/1 pp. 557-559] 14 1964, July [vol 65/2 pp. 59-65] Please feel free to contact me off list. Burkhard ___________________________________________ Burkhard Quessel, Curator of the Tibetan Collections The British Library 96 Euston Road, London NW1 2DB phone: +44-20-7412-7819 fax: +44-20-7412-7850 email: Burkhard.Quessel at bl.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: Birgit Kellner [mailto:birgit.kellner at UNIVIE.AC.AT] > Sent: 04 January 2005 16:59 > To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk > Subject: Looking for issues of the Hindi journal "Sarasvati" > from the 1960s > > > Dear fellow list-members, > > I was wondering whether anyone has access to issues from the > 1960s of the Hindi journal "Sarasvati", which is most likely > ISSN 05586496, published in Ilahabada, by Indiyana Presa > (Pablikesana) Praiveta Limiteda, 1900-1980 (information from COPAC). > > Specifically, I am trying to locate a series of 14 articles > written by the photographer Fany/Feni Mukherjee (also known > as Pheni Moukherji, and in various other orthographic > disguises) who accompanied Rahula Sankrtyayana to Tibet in > 1938. This series of travel reports has the title "Rahulji ke > sath Tibbat ke abhiyan mem". Unfortunately I don't know > exactly which volumes of Sarasvati contain them; all I know > is that the issues of June, October, November and December > 1963, as well as January, February and July 1964 contain some. > > COPAC records the following holdings for the British library: > > "St. Pancras Reading Rooms ; HIN ST 2 OIOC // > Holdings: 11, no.10 (1967/Oct. 1910)-82 (2037/1980). Incomplete" > > If anyone with access to the British library (who > coincidentally happens to go there sometime during the next > weeks ...) could check which of the issues mentioned above > are there, and how complete the library's 1960s holdings are, > or if anyone has information about other libraries that may > have this journal, or knows whether Mukherjee's reports have > been published in any other form - well, for any help that > gets me closer to digital or paper copies of these articles, > I would be very grateful. > > Best regards, > > Birgit Kellner > ************************************************************************** Experience the British Library online at www.bl.uk Help the British Library conserve the world's knowledge. Adopt a Book. www.bl.uk/adoptabook ************************************************************************* The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. 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The British Library does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. ************************************************************************* From birgit.kellner at UNIVIE.AC.AT Thu Jan 6 19:32:36 2005 From: birgit.kellner at UNIVIE.AC.AT (Birgit Kellner) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 05 20:32:36 +0100 Subject: Looking for issues of the Hindi journal "Sarasvati" from the 1960s In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <161227075697.23782.13151560419038710504.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Quessel, Burkhard wrote: >Dear Birgit, >This is what the British Library has of Pheni Moukherji's articles(shelfmark >"Hin St 2"): > >part >1 1963, June [vol 64/1 pp. 518-523] >2 1963, July [vol 64/2 pp. 63-67] >3 1963, August -- missing >4 1963, September [vol 64/2 pp. 243-249] >5 1963, October [vol 64/2 pp. 341-345] >6 1963, November [vol 64/2 pp. 436-442] >7 1963, December -- missing >8 1964, January [vol 65/1 pp. 51-59] >9 1964, February [vol 65/1 pp. 147-155] >10 1964, March [vol 65/1 pp. 249-255] >11 1964, April [vol 65/1 pp. 349-355] >12 1964, May [vol 65/1 pp. 456-461] >13 1964, June [vol 65/1 pp. 557-559] >14 1964, July [vol 65/2 pp. 59-65] > >Please feel free to contact me off list. > >Burkhard > >___________________________________________ > > > Thank you very much, Burkhard, for getting hold of the individual issues and tracing the exact publication dates of the desired articles; many thanks also to Bindu Bhat for searching various Northern American catalogues, and also for the book reference. With the British library having most of the issues in question, only the August and December issues of 1963 will have to be found elsewhere. The online catalogues of Cornell and Chicago report both. If anyone with easy access to either of these libraries could make copies of these two Mukherjee articles for me (or, even better, scans), I would be very grateful! Thanks again, and best regards, Birgit Kellner From jrasik at COLMEX.MX Fri Jan 7 16:14:05 2005 From: jrasik at COLMEX.MX (Rasik Vihari Joshi Tripathi) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 05 10:14:05 -0600 Subject: Indology.Net Subdomains Message-ID: <161227075700.23782.7175870520732187965.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear Prof.Gardinarov, I just returned from USA last night. I send you my sincere wishes for the New Year 2005.I have just received the packet you sent of your book.Thank you very much indeed. Very sincerely yours , Rasik Vihari Joshi -----Mensaje original----- De: Indology [mailto:INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk]En nombre de Plamen Gradinarov Enviado el: Domingo, 02 de Enero de 2005 03:47 a.m. Para: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk Asunto: Indology.Net Subdomains To celebrate the New 2005 Year, Eurasia Academic Publishers have launched free subdomain service in the following formats: you.indology.net yourtext.sacredtexts.org you.at.orientalia.org Please, visit http://www.indology.net/subdomains and reserve your subdomain name Examples: Instead of http://users.primushost.com/~india/ejvs/issues.html one can have the short: http://ejvs.indology.net Best Regards and Happy New Year! Plamen Gradinarov Ph.D., D.Sc., Assoc. Prof., Publisher Eurasia Academic Publishers From Palaniappa at AOL.COM Sun Jan 9 08:30:00 2005 From: Palaniappa at AOL.COM (Sudalaimuthu Palaniappan) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 05 03:30:00 -0500 Subject: On the history of Kanchi Sankara Matha Message-ID: <161227075703.23782.8340982551925305688.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear Colleagues, Adding to the inscription mentioning Purushottama Bharati, I have come across other Tamil inscriptions of the Vijayanagar period with four more holy men (one -sAgara, one -tIrttha, and two -giri) who would be thought of today as belonging to the dazanAmI orders. Of these holy men, perhaps the most interesting one is zrImatparamahamsaparivrAjakAcAryarAn2a zrIvedendrasAgarazrIpAdaGkaL who was in the vedamaTham in the aruLALapperumAL temple also known as Varadarajapperumal temple in Kanchi. He was given a village as a grant by the Vijayanagara king Harihara II in ca.1378 AD. Earlier, in the year 1367, we find one zrIrAmatIrtthazrIpAtaGkaL had acquired a house near the Varadarajapperumal temple from a merchant in Kanchi. In Kalahasti in ca.1401 AD, we encounter one teacher amarendragirizrIpAdamkaL and his disciple pUrNagirizrIpAdamkaL who had been granted a village earlier and out of the produce from this village pUrNagirizrIpAdamkaL endows some worship ritual. What is interesting about these inscriptions is that these inscriptions were issued when Vidyaranya and/or Harihara II were influential. Compared to the previous centuries, there seems to be a sudden spurt in the number of holy men who come to light with dazanAmI names. It is traditionally believed that the dazanAmI order is affiliated with the advaita maThas. But the inscription mentioning zrIvedendrasAgara is in the Varadarajapperumal temple, a very important one for zrivaiSNavas belonging to the visiSTAdvaita philosophy. If the advaita affiliation of dazanAmIs was known in 1378, would they have been allowed to have a maTha in the temple with strong zrIvaiSNava influence? On the other hand, if there was no perceived Sankaran influence on the maTha, there would have been no objection to the maTha's presence. (Of course, the names of the maTha and the holy man happen to be neutral ones which might not have bothered the zrIvaiSNavas in the temple.) This causes one to question the traditional history of the dazanAmI holy men. Does anyone know of definitely datable references to any holy men as belonging to the dazanAmI tradition established by Adi Sankara before the advent of the Vijayanagara kingdom? I would appreciate the references. As for Kanchi maTha history, even though we have two holy men with -indra- in the names in the inscriptions, the names of the teacher-disciple pair shows that -indra- is not really a required part of the name in 1401 weakening the position of '-indra sarasvati' vis-a-vis -sarasvati. Does anyone know if Harihara II (whose minister, Madhava-Vidyaranya, is claimed by the Kanchi maTha to be a student of the 51st Kanchi maTha pontiff according to http://www.kamakoti.org/peeth/origin.html#appendix2) gave any grant to the Kanchi maTha in Kamakoti Peetham as he did to the vedamaTham in the Varadarajapperumal temple? Certainly Varadarajapperumal temple seems to be important for a better understanding of the Kanchi Sankara maTha. Thanks in advance. Regards S. Palaniappan From Palaniappa at AOL.COM Sun Jan 9 08:47:21 2005 From: Palaniappa at AOL.COM (Sudalaimuthu Palaniappan) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 05 03:47:21 -0500 Subject: On the history of Kanchi Sankara Matha Message-ID: <161227075705.23782.7390264219265269454.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> In a message dated 1/9/2005 2:31:03 AM Central Standard Time, Palaniappa at AOL.COM writes: > Does anyone know if > Harihara II (whose minister, Madhava-Vidyaranya, is claimed by the Kanchi > maTha to be > a student of the 51st Kanchi maTha pontiff according to > http://www.kamakoti.org/peeth/origin.html#appendix2) gave any grant to the > Kanchi maTha in Kamakoti > Peetham as he did to the vedamaTham in the Varadarajapperumal temple? > Sorry, the minister's name should be Sayana. Regret the error. Regards S. Palaniappan From gat4 at COLUMBIA.EDU Sun Jan 9 17:11:14 2005 From: gat4 at COLUMBIA.EDU (Gary Tubb) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 05 12:11:14 -0500 Subject: reply In-Reply-To: <20050109143758.9453.qmail@webmail46.rediffmail.com> Message-ID: <161227075710.23782.7598801027918362791.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Here's the address: David Shulman Yours, Gary Tubb. On Sun, 9 Jan 2005, Anand Dilip wrote: > Dear List-members, could anybody give me e-mail address of Professor David Dean Shoulman? with regards, Dr. Anand Dilip Raj > From gat4 at COLUMBIA.EDU Sun Jan 9 17:21:05 2005 From: gat4 at COLUMBIA.EDU (Gary Tubb) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 05 12:21:05 -0500 Subject: On the history of Kanchi Sankara Matha (fwd) Message-ID: <161227075712.23782.1283119476286253448.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> The following message was received by the Indology list committee and is being forwarded to the list at the request of the message's author. Yours, Gary Tubb. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Vidyasankar Sundaresan wrote: ... > > I found Palaniappan's post about a record of one Purushottama Bharati from > Kumbhakonam very interesting. However, I would hesitate to draw a direct > connection between this historical record and the Kumbhakonam pre-history > of the current Kanchi matha, for a number of reasons. That said, the > following comments may be of interest. > > 1. iSTakA = brick, especially in a Vedic ritual context. It is possible > that iSTakA maTha may refer simply to a maTha that had a brick building. > In the year 1492, such a structure for a sannyAsin's abode in a diverse > temple city like Kumbhakonam may well have been distinct enough to be an > identifying characteristic. Or perhaps the maTha was a good source of > iSTakA-s for constructing altars. > > 2. The URL provided in Palaniappan's original post gives the list of > Sringeri, not of the Kanchi matha. In any case, as regards the question > regarding number and lengths of the heads, the answer is yes, the practice > at Sringeri has been to select the successor at quite a young age. For the > traditional authority behind entering sannyAsa directly from the > brahmacarya stage, see Sankara's commentary on gItA 3.3. This is the > practice in most of the advaita maThas in the south. > > 3. For Sringeri, the number of names in the lineage is about half that > found in the Dwaraka list, which in turn is about half the number in the > Puri list. I won't comment about the Kanchi list. However, note that the > dates given in the Dwaraka and Puri lists go back to 500 BCE. For details, > please see my paper, "Conflicting Hagiographies and History: The place of > Sankaravijaya texts in Advaita tradition," International Journal of Hindu > Studies, vol. 4, no. 2, August 2000. > > Best regards, > Vidyasankar Sundaresan > > From sucindram_omlr at REDIFFMAIL.COM Sun Jan 9 14:37:58 2005 From: sucindram_omlr at REDIFFMAIL.COM (Anand Dilip) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 05 14:37:58 +0000 Subject: reply Message-ID: <161227075708.23782.2544030797229932020.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear List-members, could anybody give me e-mail address of Professor David Dean Shoulman? with regards, Dr. Anand Dilip Raj From McComas.Taylor at ANU.EDU.AU Sun Jan 9 03:39:08 2005 From: McComas.Taylor at ANU.EDU.AU (McComas Taylor) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 05 14:39:08 +1100 Subject: Institutions teaching Sanskrit worldwide Message-ID: <161227076456.23782.5211079382018057995.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> priyamitrANi namo namaH I have a vague memory of seeing a list of institutions all over the world that teach Sanskrit, but I have been unable to relocate it. Can anyone help me? With thanks in advance McComas ======================================== McComas Taylor Centre for Asian Societies and Histories Faculty of Asian Studies The Australian National University ACT 0200 (Baldessin Annex, Bldg 105A) Tel. +61 2 6125 8658 (Wed-Fri) From yavass at YV1041.SPB.EDU Mon Jan 10 15:51:42 2005 From: yavass at YV1041.SPB.EDU (Yaroslav Vassilkov) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 05 18:51:42 +0300 Subject: thanks Message-ID: <161227075715.23782.4893447532628521058.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Cordial thanks to Madhav Deshpande, Richard Salomon and McComas Taylor for giving me e-mail address of Professor Ashok Aklujkar. Wishing all colleagues health and goog luck in 2005, Yaroslav Vassilkov From karp at UW.EDU.PL Tue Jan 11 19:06:26 2005 From: karp at UW.EDU.PL (Artur Karp) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 05 20:06:26 +0100 Subject: A Small Query: Scientific Transcription of Sanskrit In-Reply-To: <1f4.3f86adb.2f124588@aol.com> Message-ID: <161227075718.23782.14501930784790962916.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear List Members, Does anyone of you know when exactly and where the present transcription of Sanskrit was introduced - to be uniformly used by indologists all over? That with macrons over vovels, dots under to mark retroflexes, acute over s to make it denote palatal sibilant, small circle under sonantal l and r. Etc. I kind of remember that it was done at some International Congress - in Paris? Your help will be greatly appreciated. Artur Karp University of Warsaw Poland -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 2005-01-06 From vielle at ORI.UCL.AC.BE Tue Jan 11 22:40:22 2005 From: vielle at ORI.UCL.AC.BE (Christophe Vielle) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 05 23:40:22 +0100 Subject: A Small Query: Scientific Transcription of Sanskrit In-Reply-To: <6.0.2.0.2.20050111195642.03efef68@poczta.uw.edu.pl> Message-ID: <161227075721.23782.5149411931584846218.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> It is the Tenth Congress of Orientalists in 1894. See J. Burgess, "The Transliteration of Oriental Alphabets" in Actes du Dixi?me Congr?s International des Orientalistes, session de Gen?ve, 1894, second part, Leiden: E.J. Brill, 1897, pp. 25-42. >Dear List Members, > >Does anyone of you know when exactly and where the present transcription of >Sanskrit was introduced - to be uniformly used by indologists all over? >That with macrons over vovels, dots under to mark retroflexes, acute over s >to make it denote palatal sibilant, small circle under sonantal l and r. >Etc. I kind of remember that it was done at some International Congress - >in Paris? > >Your help will be greatly appreciated. > >Artur Karp > >University of Warsaw >Poland > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 2005-01-06 Dr. Christophe Vielle Centre d'Etudes de l'Inde et de l'Asie du Sud Institut orientaliste Place Blaise Pascal 1 B - 1348 Louvain-la-Neuve BELGIUM Tel. +32-(0)10-47 49 54 (office)/ -(0)2-640 62 66 (home) E-mail: vielle at ori.ucl.ac.be From hwtull at MSN.COM Wed Jan 12 04:43:01 2005 From: hwtull at MSN.COM (Herman Tull) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 05 23:43:01 -0500 Subject: A Small Query: Scientific Transcription of Sanskrit Message-ID: <161227075723.23782.11045911466975286299.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> There is an interesting note on this in the Monier-Williams Sanskrit English Dictionary (p. xxx). Apparently the debate on transliteration was heated, even leading to letters in the "Times." MW notes that Sir Charles Trevelyan cleared away much of the confusion regarding transliteration in "his able minute, dated Calcutta, January, 1834." In 1879, in his Introduction to the Sacred Books of the East (Vol. I), F. Max Mueller described in detail his proposal for a "Missionary Alphabet" (which he notes he first proposed in 1854). The system uses some familiar diacriticals, but largely depends on italicized letters (italicized "k" for "c"; italicized "t" to represent retroflexion). Unfortunately, Madonell adopts the SBE system for his "Practical Sanskrit English Dictionary" (1924). Oddly enough, though, Mueller's 1870 Sanskrit Grammar uses the "modern system" (with the exception of ch and chh for c and ch). Herman Tull ----- Original Message ----- From: Christophe Vielle To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 5:40 PM Subject: Re: A Small Query: Scientific Transcription of Sanskrit It is the Tenth Congress of Orientalists in 1894. See J. Burgess, "The Transliteration of Oriental Alphabets" in Actes du Dixi?me Congr?s International des Orientalistes, session de Gen?ve, 1894, second part, Leiden: E.J. Brill, 1897, pp. 25-42. >Dear List Members, > >Does anyone of you know when exactly and where the present transcription of >Sanskrit was introduced - to be uniformly used by indologists all over? >That with macrons over vovels, dots under to mark retroflexes, acute over s >to make it denote palatal sibilant, small circle under sonantal l and r. >Etc. I kind of remember that it was done at some International Congress - >in Paris? > >Your help will be greatly appreciated. > >Artur Karp > >University of Warsaw >Poland > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 2005-01-06 Dr. Christophe Vielle Centre d'Etudes de l'Inde et de l'Asie du Sud Institut orientaliste Place Blaise Pascal 1 B - 1348 Louvain-la-Neuve BELGIUM Tel. +32-(0)10-47 49 54 (office)/ -(0)2-640 62 66 (home) E-mail: vielle at ori.ucl.ac.be From plamen at ORIENTALIA.ORG Fri Jan 14 13:46:28 2005 From: plamen at ORIENTALIA.ORG (Plamen Gradinarov) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 05 15:46:28 +0200 Subject: The Yoga-Darsana Project Message-ID: <161227075726.23782.9263633893246814613.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> For Immediate Release Sofia, Jan 14th, 2005 - Yoga-darsana, The Philosophy of Yoga, is the most important Indopedia project, inspired by the classical work of pandit Dhundhiraj Sastri (1935) and officialy started today. Necessity The project is necessitated by the existence of many, often diametrically different translations and interpretations of Yoga-sutra over the last hundred years. What both readers and translators need is to unify, or at least discuss the technical language of interpreting the Yoga concepts and methods in terms of modern knowledge as well as in the light of the recent advances in the fields of comparative philosophy, religion, and linguistics. Scope The Project strives to cover the major lines in translating and interpreting YS, namely, the line of Vyasa (Vedantic line included) and the line of the independent commentaries on YS, formally designated as the line of Bhojaraja. Structure Patanjala Yoga-sutra serves as the core text followed by different commentaries in one or another of the represented commentarial traditions. All individual sutras and commentaries are linked to their category title and to corresponding chapter of YS. The footnotes to any particular entry (sutra or commentary page) are on the Discussion page. When dealing with translations from Sanskrit, Interwiki links to the Sanskrit site of the project are required, no matter whether there is or there is not a real Sanskrit text submitted. Satellite dictionaries Terms and concepts are linked to and explained in one of the satellite dictionaries, depending on the nature of the term. The following hypertext dictionaries have been set up to explain terms in different logical context, conceptual framework, and Yoga traditions: - Yoga-kosa - Nyaya-kosa - Dharma-kosa - Sabda-kosa - Mantra-kosa Languages The project is developed - so far - in two languages: English and Sanskrit. Should there be contributors desiring to maintain another language version of Yoga-darsana, the administration can easily set up additional sites and separate YD database. Contributors Anyone with sound knowledge of Sanskrit can take part in the project and contribute material to any part of its structural components. The only formal reqierement is registration at Indopedia. Editorial board Currently, members of the Yoga-Darsana Editorial Boards are: - Dr. Plamen Gradinarov - Prof. Rasik Vihari Joshi Official site http://www.yogadarsana.org Indopedia Front Page http://www.indopedia.org/Category:Yoga-darsana.html Copyright The Yoga-Darsana first pressrelease can be copied on third-party' sites as well as freely distributed via any kind of electronic media. From jfstaal at SOCRATES.BERKELEY.EDU Sat Jan 15 00:08:17 2005 From: jfstaal at SOCRATES.BERKELEY.EDU (jfstaal) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 05 16:08:17 -0800 Subject: concluding stutis Message-ID: <161227075731.23782.11055439863444176591.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> OM STUDHVAM! Frits Staal >===== Original Message From "Ulrich T. Kragh" ===== >Dear fellow members, >I am writing a piece on the concluding verses in the various writings of the >7th century Buddhist author Candrakirti. These verses express the author's >sources, intent of writing, a dedication of merit and often also a homage, >and are occassionally very poetic. In one of the colophons, such verses are >referred to as a stuti, a term which also appears for the same kind of >concluding verses in the later Tibetan tradition of Buddhist commentaries, >where they in Tibetan are called "bstod pa." In the case of Candrakirti, the >genre of the texts is philosophical commentary (vRtti). > >My questions are: >(1) is there a specific Sanskrit term for such concluding verses? >(2) are they prescribed, defined or characterized anywhere, e.g., in the >poetic tradition or any work outlining the standard features of a shastra or >a vrtti? >(3) in case of the Buddhist Madhyamaka-tradition, such concluding stutis >first seem to become a standard feature in the 6th-7th century. Can that be >generalized or what are the important precursors for this feature? > >With best wishes, >Ulrich Timme Kragh >Harvard University. Frits Staal http://philosophy.berkeley.edu From utkragh at HUM.KU.DK Fri Jan 14 20:51:04 2005 From: utkragh at HUM.KU.DK (Ulrich T. Kragh) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 05 21:51:04 +0100 Subject: concluding stutis Message-ID: <161227075728.23782.6488016854792389463.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear fellow members, I am writing a piece on the concluding verses in the various writings of the 7th century Buddhist author Candrakirti. These verses express the author's sources, intent of writing, a dedication of merit and often also a homage, and are occassionally very poetic. In one of the colophons, such verses are referred to as a stuti, a term which also appears for the same kind of concluding verses in the later Tibetan tradition of Buddhist commentaries, where they in Tibetan are called "bstod pa." In the case of Candrakirti, the genre of the texts is philosophical commentary (vRtti). My questions are: (1) is there a specific Sanskrit term for such concluding verses? (2) are they prescribed, defined or characterized anywhere, e.g., in the poetic tradition or any work outlining the standard features of a shastra or a vrtti? (3) in case of the Buddhist Madhyamaka-tradition, such concluding stutis first seem to become a standard feature in the 6th-7th century. Can that be generalized or what are the important precursors for this feature? With best wishes, Ulrich Timme Kragh Harvard University. From plamen at ORIENTALIA.ORG Sun Jan 16 13:00:42 2005 From: plamen at ORIENTALIA.ORG (Plamen Gradinarov) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 05 15:00:42 +0200 Subject: site Indian Epigraphy updated Message-ID: <161227075739.23782.10667284725164656217.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> > updated - I-XIII RE of Ashoka and set of papers of A. Vijasin are > placed here. Probably Vigasin? From lel at LEL.MSK.RU Sun Jan 16 12:21:33 2005 From: lel at LEL.MSK.RU (lel) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 05 15:21:33 +0300 Subject: site Indian Epigraphy updated In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <161227075734.23782.9430248113214208262.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear list! The site "Indian Epigraphy" (http://indepigr.narod.ru/index_1.htm) updated. New Collection of Orissa and Andhra Inscriptions, including inscriptions of Sharabhapuriyas and Vishnukundins and paper "The Rise of the Licchavi kingdom in Nepal from the evidences of "Gopalarajavamshavali" and inscriptions" is placed. Dmitriy N. Lielukhine Oriental Institute. Moscow, Dep. of History. PhD, Member Secretary of "Oriental Epigraphy" mailto:lel at lel.msk.ru From lel at LEL.MSK.RU Sun Jan 16 12:22:35 2005 From: lel at LEL.MSK.RU (lel) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 05 15:22:35 +0300 Subject: site Indian Epigraphy updated In-Reply-To: <467990120.20050116152133@lel.msk.ru> Message-ID: <161227075736.23782.9045476299094543558.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear list! The site "Indian Epigraphy" (http://indepigr.narod.ru/index_1.htm) updated - I-XIII RE of Ashoka and set of papers of A. Vijasin are placed here. Dmitriy N. Lielukhine Oriental Institute. Moscow, Dep. of History. PhD, Member Secretary of "Oriental Epigraphy" mailto:lel at lel.msk.ru From lel at LEL.MSK.RU Sun Jan 16 20:40:13 2005 From: lel at LEL.MSK.RU (lel) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 05 23:40:13 +0300 Subject: site Indian Epigraphy updated In-Reply-To: <000b01c4fbcb$7484a740$9ab7fea9@skknet.net> Message-ID: <161227075741.23782.12871029627065715453.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Of course, Vigasin. Thanks for correction. DL >> updated - I-XIII RE of Ashoka and set of papers of A. Vijasin are >> placed here. > Probably Vigasin? -- ? ?????????, lel mailto:lel at lel.msk.ru From jim at RAWLINGSFARM.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Jan 17 11:02:36 2005 From: jim at RAWLINGSFARM.DEMON.CO.UK (James Mallinson) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 05 11:02:36 +0000 Subject: Dr. M.L.Gharote Message-ID: <161227075743.23782.5973919904191111871.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear Colleagues, It is with great sadness that I write to inform you of the death this morning of Dr. Manohar Laxman Gharote. He worked at the Kaivalyadhama Yoga Research Centre and then set up the Lonavala Yoga Institute. He was one of the world's foremost scholars of Sanskrit texts on ha.thayoga. Yours, James Mallinson From d.wujastyk at UCL.AC.UK Mon Jan 17 19:07:58 2005 From: d.wujastyk at UCL.AC.UK (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 05 19:07:58 +0000 Subject: Sad news about Professor K. V. Sarma Message-ID: <161227075746.23782.2424511785296743014.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> I am sorry to relay to the INDOLOGY list the sad news that Prof. K. V. Sarma has passed away. He was 86 years old. Many will know of his vast erudition and his huge and critically important contribution to the history of Indian science, especially mathematics and astronomy. Dominik ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:34:15 +0500 (IST) From: SAS Sarma To: d.wujastyk at UCL.AC.UK Subject: msg. from SAS Sarma, EFEO, Pondicherry. >From : S. A. S. Sarma, EFEO, Pondicherry. Dear Sir, I am very sorry to inform you that My grand-father, PROF. K.V. SARMA(86), (Formerly Director, VISIS, Punjab University; Hon.Professor Adyar library and founder Director, Sree Sarada Educational Society and Research Centre, Adyar, Chennai) passed away on 13th January 2005 night at his residence in Chennai. I shall be very much thankful if you could circulate the message through the indolgoy group. with thanks, SAS Sarma From k.harimoto at LET.RUG.NL Tue Jan 18 01:59:30 2005 From: k.harimoto at LET.RUG.NL (Kengo Harimoto) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 05 02:59:30 +0100 Subject: Sanskrit Google In-Reply-To: <8F50E206-68DF-11D9-9327-000A95EF9784@fas.harvard.edu> Message-ID: <161227075753.23782.12095284588692283689.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> > Google has a Sanskrit search engine now, with internet (antarajaalam) > etc. search > > http://www.google.com/intl/sa/ > > Looks like using Itrans transliteration, with a mid-Indian > (Gujarati-Marathi-Telugu-Oriya) twist: e.g., krushna for kRSNa UTF-8 ???????? works, too. Amazing. I've come across http://sa.wikipedia.org/wiki/ (Sanskrit version of Wikipedia) that way. Devan?gar? search works with regular google. I should have expected this, since google has always accepted utf-8. This is just a Sanskrit interface, like Japanese, Dutch, etc. Still, very funny on google's part :) -- kengo harimoto From witzel at FAS.HARVARD.EDU Mon Jan 17 23:28:57 2005 From: witzel at FAS.HARVARD.EDU (Michael Witzel) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 05 08:28:57 +0900 Subject: Sanskrit Google Message-ID: <161227075749.23782.13194910853417705477.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Google has a Sanskrit search engine now, with internet (antarajaalam) etc. search http://www.google.com/intl/sa/ Looks like using Itrans transliteration, with a mid-Indian (Gujarati-Marathi-Telugu-Oriya) twist: e.g., krushna for kRSNa Nice picture (chitrANi) collection... Have fun! MW Michael Witzel Department of Sanskrit and Indian Studies, Harvard University 1 Bow Street , Cambridge MA 02138 1-617-495 3295 Fax: 496 8571 direct line: 496 2990 http://witzel at fas.harvard.edu/~witzel/mwpage.htm From yanom at CC.KYOTO-SU.AC.JP Tue Jan 18 01:14:57 2005 From: yanom at CC.KYOTO-SU.AC.JP (Michio YANO) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 05 10:14:57 +0900 Subject: K.V. Sarma, In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <161227075751.23782.8662609081229627637.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear Dominik, I deleted your message about the sad news of K.V. Sarma after reading only the subject. Could you please send it to me again? I am very sad to hear the news. I met Prof. Daivid Pingree on his birthday in Providence. After two operations of the tip of his right foot he cann not walk freely, but his mind is very active anhd we had a good time talking about jyosiHzaastra. Yours with best withes, Michio Michio YANO Tel +81-75-705-1781 Faculty of Cultural Studies Fax +81-75-705-1980 Kyoto Sangyo University e-mail: yanom at cc.kyoto-su.ac.jp Kyoto 603-8555 Japan http://www.kyoto-su.ac.jp/~yanom/ Editor of SCIAMVS http://www.sciamvs.org/ From plamen at ORIENTALIA.ORG Tue Jan 18 11:19:58 2005 From: plamen at ORIENTALIA.ORG (Plamen Gradinarov) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 05 13:19:58 +0200 Subject: Sanskrit Google Message-ID: <161227075756.23782.3427531675706114644.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> > UTF-8 ???????? works, too. Amazing. I've come across http://sa.wikipedia.org/wiki/ (Sanskrit version of Wikipedia) that way. Here is the Indology fork of sa.wikipedia.org, containing excerpts from original Sanskrit works, like this http://deva.indopedia.org/Bhasya_101.html The problem is that Wikipedia works properly only with Code2000 Even the TITUS fonts are failing to reproduce correctly the Sanskrit texts. Please, advise what font to install on Windows for covering both Devanagari and ALL diacritics. Thanks, Plamen From rubberjoel at SAFE-MAIL.NET Tue Jan 18 18:43:35 2005 From: rubberjoel at SAFE-MAIL.NET (Joel Bordeaux) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 05 13:43:35 -0500 Subject: Feb. 5 Kashmir workshop at Columbia Message-ID: <161227075760.23782.2279115436922498435.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> The Southern Asian Institute, Barnard Asian and Middle Eastern Cultures and Columbia University Department of Religion/Religion Graduate Students Association are pleased to announce a workshop on Saturday, February 5, 2005 entitled: Tantric Traditions of Medieval Kashmir To be held at: 420 West 118th Street International Affairs Building, Room 1512 New York NY 10027 10:00-10:45 Muller-Ortega ?On the Primacy of ?Tarka? in the Yoga of the Tantraloka.? 10:45-11:00 Response, David Mellins, discussion until 11:30. 11:30-12:15 Davidson title TBA. 12:15-12:30 Response TBA, discussion until 12:45. 12:45-2:00 Lunch break. 2:00-2:45 White ?Bhairava/Yogi: Divine Paradigm and Human Practice in Kashmir Shaivism.? 2:45-3:00 Response, TBA, discussion until 3:30. 3:30-4:00 Tea/Coffee break in 1134 IAB. 4:00-5:00 Wrap-up Panel. About the presenters/panelists: Ronald Davidson (University of California, Berkeley) is professor of Religious Studies at Fairfield University, Connecticut. He is the author of Indian Esoteric Buddhism: A Social History of the Tantric Movement (Columbia University Press, 2002), Buddhist systems of transformation: Ashraya-parivrtti among the Yogacara (University of California Press, 1985) and the forthcoming Tibetan Renaissance: Tantric Buddhism in the Rebirth of Tibetan Culture and the Rise of Sakya. Paul Muller-Ortega (University of California, Santa Barbara) is professor of Religion in the Department of Religion and Classics at the University of Rochester. He is the author of The Triadic Heart of Shiva: Kaula Tantricism of Abhinavagupta in the non-dual Shaivism of Kashmir (State University of New York Press, 1988) and the forthcoming Journey to Cidambaram: Approaching Shiva and the Ecstatic Yoga of Shaivism and Born of the Yogini's Heart: Reflections on the Hindu Tantra. David G. White (University of Chicago) is Chair of the Department of Religious Studies at the University of California, Santa Barbara. He was editor of Tantra in Practice (Princeton University Press, 2000) and author of The Alchemical Body: Siddha Traditions in Medieval India (University of Chicago Press, 1996) and Kiss of the Yogini: Tantric Sex in its South Asian Contexts (University of Chicago Press, 2003). His current research interests include Kaula Tantras and the pan-Asian cult of Bhairava. Please R.S.V.P. to jeb2104 at columbia.edu if you would like to attend dinner afterward. From sucindram_omlr at REDIFFMAIL.COM Tue Jan 18 14:38:23 2005 From: sucindram_omlr at REDIFFMAIL.COM (Anand Dilip) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 05 14:38:23 +0000 Subject: post doctoral research Message-ID: <161227075758.23782.12195956255693603279.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> ? Dear Collegeus, I would like to do post doctoral research in Religion, Can you help me in this regard ?. I have a doctorate in Sanskrit and my field of research is hindu mythology. with regards, Dr. Anand From athr at LOC.GOV Wed Jan 19 02:08:29 2005 From: athr at LOC.GOV (Allen W Thrasher) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 05 21:08:29 -0500 Subject: post doctoral research Message-ID: <161227075765.23782.15622570858299781614.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> I assume from your Rediffmail address you are currently in India and are an Indian citizen. If you are interested inter alia in study in the U.S., the official clearing place for information about educational opportunities and fellowships in the U.S. is the United States Educational Foundation in India (USEFI) (Fulbright). They are NOT solely concerned with the Fulbright Fellowships that they give out. The website is . Also, I assume you can get some information at the American Libraries (formerly United States Information Service (USIA)) in the "big four" cities. See . On the other hand, some have been discontented with the extreme focus of the Libraries in recent years on electronic resources. You can get a list of U.S. and Canadian libraries with a serious commitment to South Asia, and therefore a list of those with programs in South Asian Studies, by looking at the list of the Committee on South Asian Libraries and Documentation (CONSALD) at . Many of these have History of Religions departments. If you are not primarily concerned with a program of comparative religious studies focusing specifically on South Asia, I would find it harder to advise you and suggest you talk to Fulbright , and ask other colleagues on this list to make suggestions. Allen Thrasher Allen W. Thrasher, Ph.D. Senior Reference Librarian Southern Asia Section Asian Division Library of Congress Jefferson Building 150 101 Independence Ave., S.E. Washington, DC 20540-4810 tel. 202-707-3732 fax 202-707-1724 athr at loc.gov The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of the Library of Congress. >>> sucindram_omlr at REDIFFMAIL.COM 1/18/2005 9:38:23 AM >>> Dear Collegeus, I would like to do post doctoral research in Religion, Can you help me in this regard ?. I have a doctorate in Sanskrit and my field of research is hindu mythology. with regards, Dr. Anand From Gerard.Huet at INRIA.FR Wed Jan 19 09:50:38 2005 From: Gerard.Huet at INRIA.FR (=?utf-8?Q?G=C3=A9rard_Huet?=) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 05 10:50:38 +0100 Subject: post doctoral research In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <161227075767.23782.14891878997545768259.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Le 19 janv. 05, ? 03:08, Allen W Thrasher a ?crit : > I assume from your Rediffmail address you are currently in India and > are > an Indian citizen. I assume from your message that you pushed the global reply button erroneously :-) GH From will.sweetman at STONEBOW.OTAGO.AC.NZ Tue Jan 18 22:48:52 2005 From: will.sweetman at STONEBOW.OTAGO.AC.NZ (Will Sweetman) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 05 11:48:52 +1300 Subject: Position in Asian Religions at Massey University Message-ID: <161227075763.23782.1064174544085304327.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Position Title: Lecturer in Religious Studies Reference Number: A534-04P Department: School of History, Philosophy & Politics Division: College of Humanities & Social Sciences Location: Palmerston North Region: Palmerston North Closing Date: 28/02/2005 View the details of this job by following this link: http://jobs.massey.ac.nz/positiondetail.asp?P=3062 Position Overview Applications are invited for the position of Lecturer in Religious Studies in the School of History, Philosophy and Politics at Massey University in Palmerston North. Applicants will require a relevant doctorate and will be expected to teach and conduct research on religions originating in East and/or South Asia. The appointee will contribute to the Religious Studies programme?s existing internal and distance teaching at undergraduate and postgraduate levels, supervise postgraduate research and, as opportunity permits, develop undergraduate papers in his/her area of specialisation. A capacity and willingness to contribute to other programmes in the School may be an advantage. From pf at CIX.CO.UK Wed Jan 19 22:29:00 2005 From: pf at CIX.CO.UK (Peter Flugel) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 05 22:29:00 +0000 Subject: Panelist sought Message-ID: <161227075769.23782.4553337401365002665.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Because one of our Panelists had to back off for personal reasons, we are looking for another speaker on Hinduism for our Panel 'Discourses on War and Violence in Jainism, Buddhism and Hinduism' at the IAHR Wordl Conference in Tokyo on the 26.3.2005. If anyone is interested please contact me or Ronit Tlalim: rt19 at hotmail.com. Peter Flugel Dr Peter Fluegel Department of the Study of Religions Faculty of Arts and Humanities School of Oriental and African Studies University of London Thornhaugh Street Russell Square London WC1H OXG Tel.: (+44-20) 7898 4776 E-mail: pf8 at soas.ac.uk www.soas.ac.uk/jainastudies From mmdesh at UMICH.EDU Fri Jan 21 02:51:58 2005 From: mmdesh at UMICH.EDU (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 05 21:51:58 -0500 Subject: Latest chapter in Jim Laine's Shivaji saga Message-ID: <161227075772.23782.13283737032441935647.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear Indologists, Just for your information, here is the latest chapter in the James Laine saga. The Marathi newspaper SAKAL from Pune is reporting in its E-edition today that Udayan Raje Bhosale of Satara has filed a law-suit in the local court against James Laine and his ten Maharashtrian collaborators including Shrikant Bahulkar, Sucheta Paranjpe, V.L. Manjul, Rekha and Yashwant Damle, and Bhaskar and Meena Chandavarkar. The judge has ordered all these 'accused' to appear before the court on April 2. They have been charged with conspiracy to defame Shivaji and cause pain to his family. Madhav M. Deshpande From karp at UW.EDU.PL Fri Jan 21 11:21:16 2005 From: karp at UW.EDU.PL (Artur Karp) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 05 12:21:16 +0100 Subject: GRETIL UTF-8 sanskrit texts and Examine32 In-Reply-To: <60D386B60521234BB917967801F3A30F01C24DFF@lsa-m4.lsa.adsroo t.itcs.umich.edu> Message-ID: <161227075774.23782.7500463265724776430.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmdesh at UMICH.EDU Sat Jan 22 13:39:50 2005 From: mmdesh at UMICH.EDU (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 05 08:39:50 -0500 Subject: Further latest news on Laine, Shivaji, and Maratha politics Message-ID: <161227075777.23782.390389895576216288.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Please check the following URLs for the latest news reports from Maharashtra: http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=45556 http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=45216 http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=39168 Madhav M. Deshpande *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Professor of Sanskrit & Linguistics Department of Asian Languages & Cultures The University of Michigan Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109-1285, USA -----Original Message----- From: Indology on behalf of Madhav Deshpande Sent: Thu 1/20/2005 9:51 PM To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk Subject: Latest chapter in Jim Laine's Shivaji saga Dear Indologists, Just for your information, here is the latest chapter in the James Laine saga. The Marathi newspaper SAKAL from Pune is reporting in its E-edition today that Udayan Raje Bhosale of Satara has filed a law-suit in the local court against James Laine and his ten Maharashtrian collaborators including Shrikant Bahulkar, Sucheta Paranjpe, V.L. Manjul, Rekha and Yashwant Damle, and Bhaskar and Meena Chandavarkar. The judge has ordered all these 'accused' to appear before the court on April 2. They have been charged with conspiracy to defame Shivaji and cause pain to his family. Madhav M. Deshpande From mmdesh at UMICH.EDU Sat Jan 22 21:54:40 2005 From: mmdesh at UMICH.EDU (Madhav Deshpande) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 05 16:54:40 -0500 Subject: Further latest news on Laine, Shivaji, and Maratha politics Message-ID: <161227075780.23782.12002465019057261636.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> I am sorry to say that these three URLs are old news reports. After my first email about the latest E-Sakal news item, someone sent these to me as latest reports, and I forwarded these to the list before checking the dates of the news items. The E-Sakal news item is indeed the latest news item. I checked the E-Sakal web-page again. If someone wishes to read it in Marathi, I have saved it as a pdf file. Madhav M. Deshpande -----Original Message----- From: Indology on behalf of Madhav Deshpande Sent: Sat 1/22/2005 8:39 AM To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk Subject: Re: Further latest news on Laine, Shivaji, and Maratha politics Please check the following URLs for the latest news reports from Maharashtra: http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=45556 http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=45216 http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=39168 Madhav M. Deshpande *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Professor of Sanskrit & Linguistics Department of Asian Languages & Cultures The University of Michigan Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109-1285, USA -----Original Message----- From: Indology on behalf of Madhav Deshpande Sent: Thu 1/20/2005 9:51 PM To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk Subject: Latest chapter in Jim Laine's Shivaji saga Dear Indologists, Just for your information, here is the latest chapter in the James Laine saga. The Marathi newspaper SAKAL from Pune is reporting in its E-edition today that Udayan Raje Bhosale of Satara has filed a law-suit in the local court against James Laine and his ten Maharashtrian collaborators including Shrikant Bahulkar, Sucheta Paranjpe, V.L. Manjul, Rekha and Yashwant Damle, and Bhaskar and Meena Chandavarkar. The judge has ordered all these 'accused' to appear before the court on April 2. They have been charged with conspiracy to defame Shivaji and cause pain to his family. Madhav M. Deshpande From e.demichelis at DIVINITY.CAM.AC.UK Sat Jan 29 17:20:36 2005 From: e.demichelis at DIVINITY.CAM.AC.UK (Elizabeth De Michelis) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 05 17:20:36 +0000 Subject: e-Monier Williams Dictionary for Macs Message-ID: <161227075783.23782.10164413919611455271.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear All I have tried installing some e-versions of the Monier Williams Sanskrit dictionary on my computer, but they were for PCs and as I am a Mac-only user I found they were not compatible with my Mac. One of the versions I tried (based on the Cologne Digital Sanskrit Lexicon) worked in all respects except - the resident IT expert tells me - that the fonts provided were not compatible with a Mac. Thus I do get access to the html pages (one for each letter of the alphabet), but the Sanskrit characters show up as, for example, [khakAra]3[kha--kAra] rather than in correct transliteration or Devanagari. Would any of you be able to suggest: 1) how to get hold of a Mac-compatible font for the above programme AND / OR 2) Whether Mac-compatible e-versions of the MW exist, and how to get hold of them if they do. Many thanks for any suggestion With best wishes to you all Elizabeth De Michelis Dr Elizabeth De Michelis University of Cambridge Faculty of Divinity Tel +44-(0)1223-763015 West Road Fax +44-(0)1223-763014 Cambridge, UK CB3 9BS for details of recently published book please see http://www.divinity.cam.ac.uk/CARTS/dhiir/publications/modyoga.html From rbm49 at EXT.CANTERBURY.AC.NZ Sat Jan 29 20:28:43 2005 From: rbm49 at EXT.CANTERBURY.AC.NZ (Richard MAHONEY) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 05 09:28:43 +1300 Subject: e-Monier Williams Dictionary for Macs In-Reply-To: <1159280.1107019236@ead21.divinity.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <161227075786.23782.1888336283987088550.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> On Sat, 2005-01-29 at 17:20 +0000, Elizabeth De Michelis wrote: > I have tried installing some e-versions of the Monier Williams Sanskrit > dictionary on my computer, but they were for PCs and as I am a Mac-only > user I found they were not compatible with my Mac. [snip] > Would any of you be able to suggest: [snip] > 2) Whether Mac-compatible e-versions of the MW exist, and how to get hold > of them if they do. I'd recommend the DICT (http://www.dict.org/links.html) version at: http://homepages.comnet.co.nz/~r-mahoney/mw_dict/mw_dict.html To use it under Mac OSX you will need to install DICTatoro: http://www.ropersonline.com/dict/ I flagged this version some while back: http://homepages.comnet.co.nz/~r-mahoney/mw_dict/mw_DICT_notify The DICT version should be useful for those using Mac OSX, or a UNIX or UNIX-like system. It enables one to search for a number of head words at the same time using various strategies: Strategies available: exact Match headwords exactly prefix Match prefixes substring Match substring occurring anywhere in a headword suffix Match suffixes re POSIX 1003.2 (modern) regular expressions regexp Old (basic) regular expressions soundex Match using SOUNDEX algorithm lev Match headwords within Levenshtein distance one word Match separate words within headwords Best regards, Richard -- Richard MAHONEY | www: homepages.comnet.net.nz/~r-mahoney Littledene | phone/fax (man.): +64 3 312 1699 Bay Road | cell: +64 25 829 986 OXFORD, NZ | email: r.mahoney at comnet.net.nz From huntington.2 at OSU.EDU Mon Jan 31 16:08:25 2005 From: huntington.2 at OSU.EDU (John Huntington) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 05 11:08:25 -0500 Subject: e-Monier Williams Dictionary for Macs In-Reply-To: <1159280.1107019236@ead21.divinity.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <161227075790.23782.13594450033483406143.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear List Members Elizabeth's message made me think (always a bad thing) of one possible solution. I have not tried this, but maybe someone else has, There is a Microsoft product called "Microsoft Virtual PC for Mac" (at least three versions of it) that is reviewed as running PC software very well on a MAC. If any one has tried this I would hope that he or she could could tell us all how it worked. There are both Sanskrit and Tibetan software for the PC that interest me, but I too am (so far) a Mac only person. John >Dear All > >I have tried installing some e-versions of the Monier Williams Sanskrit >dictionary on my computer, but they were for PCs and as I am a Mac-only >user I found they were not compatible with my Mac. > >One of the versions I tried (based on the Cologne Digital Sanskrit Lexicon) >worked in all respects except - the resident IT expert tells me - that the >fonts provided were not compatible with a Mac. Thus I do get access to the >html pages (one for each letter of the alphabet), but the Sanskrit >characters show up as, for example, [khakAra]3[kha--kAra] rather than in >correct transliteration or Devanagari. > >Would any of you be able to suggest: > >1) how to get hold of a Mac-compatible font for the above programme > >AND / OR > >2) Whether Mac-compatible e-versions of the MW exist, and how to get hold >of them if they do. > >Many thanks for any suggestion > >With best wishes to you all > > >Elizabeth De Michelis > > >Dr Elizabeth De Michelis >University of Cambridge >Faculty of Divinity >Tel +44-(0)1223-763015 >West Road >Fax +44-(0)1223-763014 >Cambridge, UK CB3 9BS > >for details of recently published book please see >http://www.divinity.cam.ac.uk/CARTS/dhiir/publications/modyoga.html From plamen at ORIENTALIA.ORG Mon Jan 31 09:11:58 2005 From: plamen at ORIENTALIA.ORG (Plamen Gradinarov) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 05 11:11:58 +0200 Subject: Diacritics in MMK, attn R. Mahoney Message-ID: <161227075788.23782.11008890370722815305.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear Richard, I see less than half of the diacritics in the online UTF-8 rendering of MMK http://homepages.comnet.co.nz/~r-mahoney/mmk_text/mmk_01_utf8.html Correctly represented are only: long vowels circumflex vowels palatal n and s all the rest is replaced by squares I am using Code2000 and it seems to have problems with all utf-8 pages containing Dev. transliteration. PC, Windows 98 Any suggestions or known solutions to this issue would be appreciated. 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