From vjroebuck at MACUNLIMITED.NET Tue Aug 9 09:53:28 2005 From: vjroebuck at MACUNLIMITED.NET (Valerie J Roebuck) Date: Tue, 09 Aug 05 10:53:28 +0100 Subject: 19th century book Message-ID: <161227076627.23782.8133442625810355178.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> I now have some digital photos of the first and last pages of the text. Once the re-organisation of the website is completed, they are going to be placed in the Indology archive. In the meantime, anyone who is interested in taking a look at them is welcome to contact me off-list. There are 4 jpegs, total size 260k. With thanks-- Valerie J Roebuck Manchester, UK At 6:26 pm +0100 27/7/05, Valerie J Roebuck wrote: >Thank you to everyone who has provided information about the 19th >century copy of the Tulsi Ramayana. I hope shortly to have some >digital photos of the work. I believe it is possible to place >relevant photos on the Indology website? > >Valerie J Roebuck >Manchester, UK > >At 8:49 am -0400 25/7/05, Allen W Thrasher wrote: >>I find that lithographed books from India often look as much like >>mss as like books printed from moveable type. I think it is not >>just that the graphemes are somewhat less regular, but that the >>ink-paper interface (w.w.?) is different from letterpress. Graham >>Shaw at the British Library has done a study of lithography in >>India and is still collecting material on it. Have you shown it to >>him? >> >>It is possible, also, that under the inspiration of moveable type >>books the scribe was particularly careful to be very regular, more >>so than traditionally the best scribes would be. I have in my own >>library an ed. of the Bhagavatapurana published in Pune in the >>1970s or 1980s made by a brahmacari by hand and reproduced by >>photo-offset. You would think it was letterpress, all the more so >>since the same decorative frame was around the text on each page, >>done on a transparency and then photographed along with the text. From d.wujastyk at UCL.AC.UK Wed Aug 10 14:49:44 2005 From: d.wujastyk at UCL.AC.UK (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 05 15:49:44 +0100 Subject: INDIAN JOURNAL OF HISTORY OF SCIENCE Message-ID: <161227076630.23782.598651536299469539.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> As a member of the editorial board of the IJHS, I should like to encourage indologists to bear the journal in mind as a place for publishing contributions on any aspect of the history of science. The IJHS is brought out by the Indian National Science Academy, India's premiere representative body for science. The journal has plans for online publication in the future, and the editors are working hard to strengthen it's reputation and quality. I attach a listing of the contents of the current issue. -- Dr Dominik Wujastyk Wellcome Trust Senior Research Fellow The Wellcome Centre for the History of Medicine at UCL http://www.ucl.ac.uk/histmed INDIAN JOURNAL OF HISTORY OF SCIENCE VOL 40; PART 2; 2005 ISSN 0019-5235 pp. 139-152 Eclipse Period Number 3339 in the Rgveda Iyengar, R. N. http://zetoc.mimas.ac.uk/wzgw?terms=RN171426867&field=zid pp. 153-168 Management of Fistula in Ano in Ancient Greek and Ayurvedic Medicine - A Historical Analysis Manohar, P. R. http://zetoc.mimas.ac.uk/wzgw?terms=RN171426878&field=zid pp. 169-204 Hipparchus's 3600 - based Chord Table and its Place in the History of Ancient Greek and Indian Trigonometry Klintberg, B. http://zetoc.mimas.ac.uk/wzgw?terms=RN171426880&field=zid pp. 205-222 Hindus' Scientific Contributions in Indo-Persian Ansari, S. M. R. http://zetoc.mimas.ac.uk/wzgw?terms=RN171426893&field=zid pp. 223-228 Kelkar Committee's Proposed all India Calendar Abhyankar, K. D. http://zetoc.mimas.ac.uk/wzgw?terms=RN171426904&field=zid pp. 229-250 The Gifts of Physics to Modern Medicine Majumdar, S. K. http://zetoc.mimas.ac.uk/wzgw?terms=RN171426910&field=zid pp. 251-252 Arun Kumar Biswas, Father Eugene Lafont of St. Xaviar College, Kolkata and Contemporary Science Movement Kumar, D. http://zetoc.mimas.ac.uk/wzgw?terms=RN171426923&field=zid pp. 253-255 Workshop in History of Science at INSA - A Report http://zetoc.mimas.ac.uk/wzgw?terms=RN171426934&field=zid pp. 255-257 Fifth International Conference on Oriental Astronomy in in Thailand - A Report http://zetoc.mimas.ac.uk/wzgw?terms=RN171426946&field=zid From athr at LOC.GOV Fri Aug 12 14:13:15 2005 From: athr at LOC.GOV (Allen W Thrasher) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 05 10:13:15 -0400 Subject: bibliography for Indian numerals Message-ID: <161227076632.23782.5521820416304203018.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Stephen Chrisomalis has posted on his website on word oddities, the Phrontistery, a working bibliography for his doctoral dissertation, The Comparative History of Numerical Notation (McGill, 2003). The URL is . There are numerous articles on Indian numerals included. I have quickly scanned the list and haven't noticed any articles specifically on the number-word systems, or any titles that aren't in the usual bibliographies, but there are over a thousand titles in the list and it needs a closer look. Allen Allen W. Thrasher, Ph.D., Senior Reference Librarian South Asia Team, Asian Division Library of Congress, Jefferson Building 150 101 Independence Ave., S.E. Washington, DC 20540-4810 tel. 202-707-3732; fax 202-707-1724; athr at loc.gov The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of the Library of Congress. From athr at LOC.GOV Mon Aug 15 17:15:29 2005 From: athr at LOC.GOV (Allen W Thrasher) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 05 13:15:29 -0400 Subject: Ancient Indian Weapons Message-ID: <161227076634.23782.14819153003740311951.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> PS, Please also look at the Subject heading "martial arts--India." Allen Allen W. Thrasher, Ph.D., Senior Reference Librarian South Asia Team, Asian Division Library of Congress, Jefferson Building 150 101 Independence Ave., S.E. Washington, DC 20540-4810 tel. 202-707-3732; fax 202-707-1724; athr at loc.gov The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of the Library of Congress. From srangan at YORKU.CA Sat Aug 20 15:13:05 2005 From: srangan at YORKU.CA (Shyam Ranganathan) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 05 11:13:05 -0400 Subject: sutras and shastras In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <161227076637.23782.1351588891451137296.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear list members I have a question that will no doubt expose my historical naivet? to the historians on the list: I've always thought that the switch from sutra format to shastra format in Indian philosophical literature had something to do with the technological or cultural innovation of writing: sutras are preferred when one cannot write because they are short and easily memorized. Shastras are preferred when one can commit thoughts to an inscription because of the reduction of ambiguity afforded by increased text size. Thus, at some point it seems that philosophers in all schools generally stopped writing sutras and started writing treatise and commentaries (that is, unless they wanted to secure some type of ancient origin for their text, as in the case of the Mahayana Sutras). Is this account correct? Is there anything like a technological or cultural innovation that tigers the move from sutra to shastra format? Or is it simply the case that Indians always composed treatises, but the older ones haven't survived. Thanks in advance Shyam Ranganathan From srangan at YORKU.CA Sat Aug 20 15:17:46 2005 From: srangan at YORKU.CA (Shyam Ranganathan) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 05 11:17:46 -0400 Subject: sutras and shastras --- correction Message-ID: <161227076639.23782.7601473007173567530.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Sorry. In my previous post, "tigers" should have been "triggers" --- so much for spell checkers and sleepy Saturday monrings. S.R. ----- Forwarded message from srangan at yorku.ca ----- Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 11:13:05 -0400 From: srangan at yorku.ca Reply-To: srangan at yorku.ca Subject: sutras and shastras To: Indology Dear list members I have a question that will no doubt expose my historical naivet? to the historians on the list: I've always thought that the switch from sutra format to shastra format in Indian philosophical literature had something to do with the technological or cultural innovation of writing: sutras are preferred when one cannot write because they are short and easily memorized. Shastras are preferred when one can commit thoughts to an inscription because of the reduction of ambiguity afforded by increased text size. Thus, at some point it seems that philosophers in all schools generally stopped writing sutras and started writing treatise and commentaries (that is, unless they wanted to secure some type of ancient origin for their text, as in the case of the Mahayana Sutras). Is this account correct? Is there anything like a technological or cultural innovation that tigers the move from sutra to shastra format? Or is it simply the case that Indians always composed treatises, but the older ones haven't survived. Thanks in advance Shyam Ranganathan ----- End forwarded message ----- From aklujkar at INTERCHANGE.UBC.CA Wed Aug 24 00:22:40 2005 From: aklujkar at INTERCHANGE.UBC.CA (Ashok Aklujkar) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 05 17:22:40 -0700 Subject: Gujarati writer Sitanshu Yashaschandra, address needed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <161227076647.23782.14614112096342230147.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Allen, I do not exactly have contact information. However, depending on how recent is recent for you, the following may be useful. When I gave a few lectures at Baroda/Vadodara on 5-6 Dec. 1997, SY had come as an inaugurator. At that time he had (recently?) given up the Vice Chancellor's position at Saurashtra University (and was presumably living in Vadodara). His family name, which he does not commonly use, is Mehta/Maheta. ashok aklujkar On 23-08-2005 16:36, "Allen W Thrasher" wrote: > Does anyone have recent contact information for the distinguished Gujarati > writer Sitanshu Yashaschandra? I would be most grateful to have it. From slaje at T-ONLINE.DE Tue Aug 23 18:25:00 2005 From: slaje at T-ONLINE.DE (Prof. Dr. Walter Slaje) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 05 18:25:00 +0000 Subject: Publication Announcement Message-ID: <161227076642.23782.3830059682520320536.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Just released: The Moksopaya, Yogavasistha and Related Texts. Edited by JUERGEN HANNEDER. [Geisteskultur Indiens. Texte und Studien. 7 (Indologica Halensis)]. Aachen: Shaker 2005. 156 pp. EUR 29,80 ISBN 3-8322-4265-1 The present volume is a collection of articles on various aspects of the Moksopaya literature. It deals with the original location of the work, its critical edition project, and gives the state of research on various abridged versions, many of which were until unknown. Two articles contain, as a result of two search tours, the identification and description of more than 70 manuscripts of different versions from Srinagar, Delhi, Pune, Wai and Baroda. This range of sources is extended in an article on the Persian translations of the Laghuyogavasistha. A study of the metaphorical logic of the Moksopaya completes the volume. Contents: J. Hanneder, The Moksopaya: An Introduction. W. Slaje, Locating the Moksopaya. W. Slaje, The Moksopaya Project III: Manuscripts from the Delhi and Srinagar Collections. P. Stephan, S. Stinner, Manuscripts from Pune, Wai and Baroda. P. Stephan, The Critical Edition of the Utpatti-Prakarana: A Research Report. S. Stinner, Saras, Samgrahas and "Laghus": Kurzfassungen des Moksopaya. J. Hanneder, The Moksopayasangraha. H. Franke, Die persischen Uebersetzungen des Laghuyogavasistha. B. Lo Turco, The Metaphorical Logic of the Moksopaya. Orders (also for review copies) can be placed online with Shaker Publishers: http://www.shaker-online.com/Online-Gesamtkatalog/Booklist.idc?Reihe=275 Walter Slaje Prof Dr Walter Slaje Hermann-Loens-Str. 1 D-99425 Weimar (Germany) Tel/Fax: +49-(0)3643 501391 www.indologie.uni-halle.de Ego ex animi mei sententia spondeo ac polliceor studia humanitatis impigro labore culturum et provecturum non sordidi lucri causa nec ad vanam captandam gloriam, sed quo magis veritas propagetur et lux eius, qua salus humani generis continetur, clarius effulgeat. Vindobonae, die XXI. mensis Novembris MCMLXXXIII. From athr at LOC.GOV Tue Aug 23 23:36:34 2005 From: athr at LOC.GOV (Allen W Thrasher) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 05 19:36:34 -0400 Subject: Gujarati writer Sitanshu Yashaschandra, address needed Message-ID: <161227076644.23782.217355193418264731.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Does anyone have recent contact information for the distinguished Gujarati writer Sitanshu Yashaschandra? I would be most grateful to have it. Allen Thrasher Allen W. Thrasher, Ph.D., Senior Reference Librarian South Asia Team, Asian Division Library of Congress, Jefferson Building 150 101 Independence Ave., S.E. Washington, DC 20540-4810 tel. 202-707-3732; fax 202-707-1724; athr at loc.gov The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of the Library of Congress. From athr at LOC.GOV Wed Aug 24 10:35:04 2005 From: athr at LOC.GOV (Allen W Thrasher) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 05 06:35:04 -0400 Subject: Gujarati writer Sitanshu Yashaschandra, address needed Message-ID: <161227076649.23782.4180237950631411752.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Ashok, Thanks, this should come in useful. Allen >>> aklujkar at INTERCHANGE.UBC.CA 08/23/05 8:22 PM >>> Allen, I do not exactly have contact information. However, depending on how recent is recent for you, the following may be useful. When I gave a few lectures at Baroda/Vadodara on 5-6 Dec. 1997, SY had come as an inaugurator. At that time he had (recently?) given up the Vice Chancellor's position at Saurashtra University (and was presumably living in Vadodara). His family name, which he does not commonly use, is Mehta/Maheta. ashok aklujkar On 23-08-2005 16:36, "Allen W Thrasher" wrote: > Does anyone have recent contact information for the distinguished Gujarati > writer Sitanshu Yashaschandra? I would be most grateful to have it. From Palaniappa at AOL.COM Thu Aug 25 01:56:54 2005 From: Palaniappa at AOL.COM (Sudalaimuthu Palaniappan) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 05 21:56:54 -0400 Subject: Sanskrit lexical items and Pali/Prakrit sources Message-ID: <161227076652.23782.13358904067331557373.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear list members, Are there Sanskrit words not found in presently available Sanskrit texts/lexicons but reconstructed based Pali/Prakrit words? Are there cases where a lexical item was initially not found in Sanskrit texts but later the inferred Sanskrit word was found to occur in a Sanskrit text unavailable earlier? I would appreciate any references for a list of such words. Thanks in advance. Regards S. Palaniappan From d.wujastyk at UCL.AC.UK Tue Aug 30 12:49:05 2005 From: d.wujastyk at UCL.AC.UK (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 05 13:49:05 +0100 Subject: Emmeneau (Forwarded from Bob Goldman) Message-ID: <161227076654.23782.4869749561443748654.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> Dear Colleagues, > > > I am afraid I must report to you the sad passing of one of the giants of our > field. Murray Barnson Emeneau has passed away at his home in Berkeley > California at the age of 101. > > The following is a message I have just had from Bh. Krishnamurthi, one of > Professor Emeneau's oldest students. > >> > Very sad news. Guruji (Prof MBEmeneau) is no more. It seems he passed >>> away in sleep and the doctor said that it could have happened around >>> 7am this morning. His caretaker Diana called my son on his mobile and >>> told the news. When I saw him on the 17th I got the feeling that his >>> end was approaching. I was glad to have seen him but unhappy to see >>> him in that condition. The caretaker does not know even the University >>> address. Maybe you could call the important people and tell the news, >>> the Linguistics Dept, UC, Berkeley and the LSA, etc. We are leaving >>> for India tomorrow. My telephone no here is 623-561-1207, son's >>> (Nataraj's) mobile: 623-694-3640. I am copying this to some of >>> contacts that know Guruji. >>> Krishna >>> >>> >>> Bh. Krishnamurti >>> 12-13-1233, Street 9, Tarnaka >>> "Bhaarati", Hyderabad 500017 (AP) >>> India > > > -- > Dr. R. P. Goldman > Professor of Sanskrit > and > Director > University of California Study Abroad Center in India > 8/17 Sri Ram Road > Civil Lines > Delhi 110-054 > Tel: (011-91-11) 2393-2078; 2393-2489 > FAX: (011-91-11) 2391-1785