From rmanring at INDIANA.EDU  Thu May  1 12:41:30 2003
From: rmanring at INDIANA.EDU (Manring, Rebecca)
Date: Thu, 01 May 03 07:41:30 -0500
Subject: new member
Message-ID: <161227072684.23782.8014356406264724929.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

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From wedemeyer at HUM.KU.DK  Thu May  1 10:00:22 2003
From: wedemeyer at HUM.KU.DK (Christian Wedemeyer)
Date: Thu, 01 May 03 12:00:22 +0200
Subject: Position announcement : LECTURER in SANSKRIT
Message-ID: <161227072679.23782.15710304185658348099.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

This was forwarded to me and I thought it might be of some interest to
members of this list.

Peace,

Christian

---------

Please contact : Alicia Czaplewski <aczaplew at midway.uchicago.edu>

The Department of South Asian Languages and Civilizations,
University of Chicago, invites applications for the position of
LECTURER in SANSKRIT for a twelve-month term, beginning September
2003, with possibility of renewal.  The position requires teaching
at two levels, first-year Sanskrit throughout the three-quarter
academic year and one quarter of advanced Sanskrit.  Degree of M.A.
required. Salary competitive; benefits included.

Applications (cover letter, c.v., and two recommendation letters)
will be reviewed beginning May 15, 2003.

Address all correspondence to:

Search Committee Chair
South Asian Languages and Civilizations
University of Chicago
1130 E. 59th St.
Chicago, IL  60637-1543

E-mail inquiries should be sent to:

Alicia Czaplewski <aczaplew at midway.uchicago.edu>

The University of Chicago is an Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action
 employer. --




From A.Griffiths at LET.LEIDENUNIV.NL  Thu May  1 10:02:02 2003
From: A.Griffiths at LET.LEIDENUNIV.NL (Arlo Griffiths)
Date: Thu, 01 May 03 12:02:02 +0200
Subject: FW: Kailash Journal digitised and online - Volume 1, Number 1
In-Reply-To: <20030430040244.18818@smtp-server.twcny.rr.com>
Message-ID: <161227072681.23782.11172232801732440737.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

----------
From: "Mark Turin" <markturin at compuserve.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 00:02:44 -0400
To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
Subject: Kailash Journal digitised and online - Volume 1, Number 1

Ithaca, NY
29 April, 2003

Dear Friends and Colleagues,

As part of the Digital Himalaya Project, we continue to experiment with
making archival resources on the Himalayan region available to a wider
audience. While our previous forays have been into film and photography,
the Digital Himalaya team have now successfully digitised Volume 1,
Number 1 (1973) of KAILASH  - Journal of Himalayan Studies. The articles
from this volume are now freely downloadable as PDF documents.

Click the link below and then on the yellow link labelled NEW in the
middle of the page:

<http://www.digitalhimalaya.com/>

Please take a moment to view the page and forward this email to your
friends and colleagues in the Himalayan studies community.

Good wishes,

--

Mark Turin
Director
Digital Himalaya Project
Department of Anthropology
Cornell University
260 McGraw Hall
Ithaca, NY 14853-4601
USA

fax: 607-255-3747

email: mt272 at cornell.edu
url: <www.digitalhimalaya.com> and <www.thdl.org>
url personal: <www.iias.nl/host/himalaya/turin.html>




From mmdesh at UMICH.EDU  Fri May  2 20:53:39 2003
From: mmdesh at UMICH.EDU (Madhav Deshpande)
Date: Fri, 02 May 03 16:53:39 -0400
Subject: Telugu Lecturer Position at Michigan
Message-ID: <161227072686.23782.8339474187577498601.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Colleagues,

        I am forwarding the following advertisement for your information.  Please communicate it to all those who may be interested.  Thanks.
                                                                Madhav Deshpande



> The Department of Asian Languages and Cultures, University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, invites applications for a Lecturer position in Telugu, beginning September 1, 2003. The position is half-time but  may be converted to full-time contingent upon enrollment and funding. The candidate should have at least an M.A. degree and native or near-native proficiency in Telugu. Teaching experience is a plus. The position requires teaching Telugu at all levels. The position is for one academic year (nine month) with possibility of renewal. Please send application (covering letter, CV, and two letters of recommendation) to Madhav Deshpande, Chair Telugu Search Committee, Department of Asian Languages and Cultures, University of Michigan, 3070 Frieze Building, Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1285, by June 1, 2003. 
> The University of Michigan is an Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action Employer.
> 
> 
> 




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From: navadipanyaya at HOTMAIL.COM (jagan nadh)
Date: Mon, 05 May 03 11:45:33 +0000
Subject: The Indian Philosophical Congress 78 th session Announcement
Message-ID: <161227072690.23782.13751514537490527953.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

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Date: Mon, 05 May 03 12:04:29 +0000
Subject: 31st ALL INDIA CONFERANCE OF DRAVIDIAN LINGUISTICS ANNOUNCEMENT
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From rbm49 at EXT.CANTERBURY.AC.NZ  Mon May  5 01:15:03 2003
From: rbm49 at EXT.CANTERBURY.AC.NZ (Richard Mahoney)
Date: Mon, 05 May 03 13:15:03 +1200
Subject: Chr. Lindtner -- e-mail address?
Message-ID: <161227072688.23782.11563540272076521775.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Colleagues,

Would any of you be able to provide me with the e-mail address of
Dr Christian Lindtner?

Feel free to mail me off list.


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From A.Griffiths at LET.LEIDENUNIV.NL  Tue May  6 11:59:21 2003
From: A.Griffiths at LET.LEIDENUNIV.NL (Arlo Griffiths)
Date: Tue, 06 May 03 13:59:21 +0200
Subject: tribe called ;Svasa
Message-ID: <161227072694.23782.8396517481795076593.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Indologists,

On p. 54 of his "India as Known to Paa.nini" (2nd ed.), Agrawala states that
"[the] Divyaavadaana refers to the ;Svasas in Uttaraapatha with headquarters
at Taksha;silaa to which A;soka was deputed by his father Bindusaara as
Viceroy to quell their rebellion" and suggests that the same name may be
connected with the name of the ;Sibis.
    In neither the GRETIL electronic text (input by Kensuke Okamoto based on
the Vaidya ed.) nor in the two indexes of the Cowell/Neil ed. have I found a
trace of these ;Svasas. Can somebody who is better versed in this field of
literature (and more familiar with the available research tools) perhaps set
me on the right track towards verification of Agrawala's statement?

Many thanks!

-- Arlo Griffiths

CNWS / Instituut Kern
Universiteit Leiden
Postbus 9515
2300 RA  Leiden
the Netherlands

tel.: +31-71-5274128




From garzilli at ASIATICA.ORG  Tue May  6 15:29:23 2003
From: garzilli at ASIATICA.ORG (Enrica Garzilli)
Date: Tue, 06 May 03 17:29:23 +0200
Subject: American Academy
Message-ID: <161227072696.23782.7445398415794252667.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Colleagues,

It is my pleasure to inform you that Prof. Michael Witzel, our IJTS Managing
Editor and contributor (vol. 2, no. 1), and JSAWS collaborator and
contributor (vol. 2, no. 4), has been elected member of the American
Academy.

http://www.amacad.org/members/new2003list.htm in Section 3 - Literary
Criticism (including Philology)

Best,

eg
--
Dr. Enrica Garzilli
Uni. of Macerata, Italy
Editor-in-chief, IJTS & JSAWS
Asiatica Association www.asiatica.org
ph. + 39 02 76011 736  fax +39 02 700511864
*************************************




From pwyzlic at UNI-BONN.DE  Tue May  6 16:00:18 2003
From: pwyzlic at UNI-BONN.DE (Peter Wyzlic)
Date: Tue, 06 May 03 18:00:18 +0200
Subject: tribe called ;Svasa
In-Reply-To: <BADD7038.50C8%A.Griffiths@let.leidenuniv.nl>
Message-ID: <161227072698.23782.62765834931913644.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 01:59:21PM +0200, Arlo Griffiths wrote:

> On p. 54 of his "India as Known to Paa.nini" (2nd ed.), Agrawala
> states that "[the] Divyaavadaana refers to the ;Svasas in Uttaraapatha
> with headquarters at Taksha;silaa to which A;soka was deputed by his
> father Bindusaara as Viceroy to quell their rebellion" and suggests
> that the same name may be connected with the name of the ;Sibis.
> In neither the GRETIL electronic text (input by Kensuke Okamoto
> based on the Vaidya ed.) nor in the two indexes of the Cowell/Neil
> ed. have I found a trace of these ;Svasas. Can somebody who is
> better versed in this field of literature (and more familiar with
> the available research tools) perhaps set me on the right track
> towards verification of Agrawala's statement?

See F. Edgerton: Buddhist Hybrid Sanskrit Grammar and Dictionary. Vol.
2: dictionary, p. 616a, s.v. Sva;sa
"n. of a people living about Taxila: Sva;sar-ajya.m Divy 372.11; surely
graphic corruption for Skt. Kha;sa or Kha.sa"

Edgerton refers to a passage in the Pamsupradanavadana which is a part
of the Asoka cycle. For references to the ethnic group called Kha;sa,
see, e.g., Soerensen's index of names in the Mahabharata, s.v. Kha,ca
[,c is c with cedille].

Hope it helps
Peter Wyzlic




From mmdesh at UMICH.EDU  Wed May  7 03:53:15 2003
From: mmdesh at UMICH.EDU (Madhav Deshpande)
Date: Tue, 06 May 03 23:53:15 -0400
Subject: Namaskar and Nationalism
Message-ID: <161227072704.23782.14227146434124236082.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

As I was growing up in Pune, it was my distinct impression that the term namaskar was used as a greeting term mostly by Brahmins to each other.  After my father retired, he built a house in the village of Dhayari near Pune, where our house was surrounded mostly by non-Brahmin folks.  Their normal form of greeting was to say "raam raam".  During my own visits to this village, it often happened that I would say namaskar to someone and he would respond saying raam raam to me.  It is my general impression that the term namaskar became the common term in urban areas of Maharashtra, while raam raam still remains the common term in rural areas.  Best,

                                                                Madhav Deshpande

> ----------
> From:         Peter Friedlander
> Reply To:     Indology
> Sent:         Tuesday, May 6, 2003 10:23 PM
> To:   INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk
> Subject:           Namaskar and Nationalism
> 
> Dear List Members,
> I am doing some research on the development of Hindi greetings, and on the
> use of Namaskar.
> In particular I'm looking for references in early 20th century nationalist
> literature to the use of Namaskar as a national greeting, as prior to this
> it seems to have been a greeting only used by Brahmins, or to Brahmins by
> twice-born castes.
> has anybody ever seen anything on this?
> 
> Dr Peter G. Friedlander
> Hindi Research Fellow
> Asian Studies Department
> La Trobe University, VIC 3086 Australia
> Tel: 61 3 9755 3048
> Fax: 61 3 9755 1880
> Email: p.friedlander at latrobe.edu.au
> WWW: http://www.latrobe.edu.au/asianstudies/staff/peter_friedlander.htm
> 
> 




From A.Griffiths at LET.LEIDENUNIV.NL  Wed May  7 07:37:55 2003
From: A.Griffiths at LET.LEIDENUNIV.NL (Arlo Griffiths)
Date: Wed, 07 May 03 09:37:55 +0200
Subject: Namaskar and Nationalism
In-Reply-To: <60D386B60521234BB917967801F3A30F6202BE@lsa-m4.lsa.adsroot.itcs.umich.edu>
Message-ID: <161227072707.23782.1812580575706731072.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

It's my impression that in large parts of Orissa, namaskaar (pronounced
rather in the Hindi way than expected [nOmOskaarO]) is nowadays quite
common: in view of the pronunciation perhaps indeed "nationalist" influence.
"Namaste" is hardly heard in Orissa, by the way.

In those ('tribal') parts of the present Jharkhand state that I have
visited, "Johar" seems to be the normal greeting, also in the context of
Hindi (or Sadani) conversations. A variant of this greeting (with
-h-deletion: [juaar]) is the standard greeting in those parts of 'tribal'
southern Orissa where I have travelled (viz. Koraput and Rayagada Dt.), no
matter whether the language spoken is Desia Oriya, Gutob, or --- I would
assume --- any other tribal language.  There is a brief note on this word by
Jules Bloch in the Dr. C. Kunhan Raja Presentation Volume (Madras 1946), p.
129f. [reprinted in Recueil d'Articles de Jules Bloch 1906--1955 (Textes
rassembl?s par Colette Caillat, Paris 1985), p. 345f.]. Turner (CDIAL #5142)
calls Bloch's derivation from *jayakaara "extremely doubtful".
    Bloch refers to Crooke, "Things Indian" p. 294 where a rather different
usage of the term is mentioned (and a consequently different etymology is
proposed). In the context of Prof. Deshpande's reference to rural areas of
Maharashtra, it is interesting to mention here that Bloch also gives the
following quote: "Mais ouvrons le dictionnaire marathe de Molesworth sous
johaar: ``The word used by the Mahaar, Caambhaar etc., in saluting their
betters or each other 2. The word of obeisance used to a Raajaa by his
attendants, implying `O warrior'!".

Arlo Griffiths



> From: Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at UMICH.EDU>
> Reply-To: Indology <INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk>
> Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 23:53:15 -0400
> To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk
> Subject: Re: Namaskar and Nationalism
> 
> As I was growing up in Pune, it was my distinct impression that the term
> namaskar was used as a greeting term mostly by Brahmins to each other.  After
> my father retired, he built a house in the village of Dhayari near Pune, where
> our house was surrounded mostly by non-Brahmin folks.  Their normal form of
> greeting was to say "raam raam".  During my own visits to this village, it
> often happened that I would say namaskar to someone and he would respond
> saying raam raam to me.  It is my general impression that the term namaskar
> became the common term in urban areas of Maharashtra, while raam raam still
> remains the common term in rural areas.  Best,
> 
> Madhav Deshpande
> 
>> ----------
>> From:         Peter Friedlander
>> Reply To:     Indology
>> Sent:         Tuesday, May 6, 2003 10:23 PM
>> To:   INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk
>> Subject:           Namaskar and Nationalism
>> 
>> Dear List Members,
>> I am doing some research on the development of Hindi greetings, and on the
>> use of Namaskar.
>> In particular I'm looking for references in early 20th century nationalist
>> literature to the use of Namaskar as a national greeting, as prior to this
>> it seems to have been a greeting only used by Brahmins, or to Brahmins by
>> twice-born castes.
>> has anybody ever seen anything on this?
>> 
>> Dr Peter G. Friedlander
>> Hindi Research Fellow
>> Asian Studies Department
>> La Trobe University, VIC 3086 Australia
>> Tel: 61 3 9755 3048
>> Fax: 61 3 9755 1880
>> Email: p.friedlander at latrobe.edu.au
>> WWW: http://www.latrobe.edu.au/asianstudies/staff/peter_friedlander.htm
>> 
>> 




From athr at LOC.GOV  Wed May  7 14:27:36 2003
From: athr at LOC.GOV (Allen W Thrasher)
Date: Wed, 07 May 03 10:27:36 -0400
Subject: Namaskar and Nationalism
Message-ID: <161227072712.23782.12864877979035722687.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

At the time of my first stay in Pune in 1969-70, a lot of low caste
people used Salaam as a greeting, irrespective of religion (Hindu,
Muslim, or Christian).

Allen

Allen W. Thrasher, Ph.D.
Senior Reference Librarian
Southern Asia Section
Asian Division
Library of Congress
Jefferson Building 150
101 Independence Ave., S.E.
Washington, DC 20540-4810
tel. 202-707-3732
fax 202-707-1724
athr at loc.gov
The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of the Library
of Congress.




From navadipanyaya at HOTMAIL.COM  Wed May  7 10:31:22 2003
From: navadipanyaya at HOTMAIL.COM (jagan nadh)
Date: Wed, 07 May 03 10:31:22 +0000
Subject: sabdasakti in Nyaya Philosophy
Message-ID: <161227072710.23782.14237520182737509593.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

dear collegues,
      Any body can give alist of sudies in Verbal knowledge in
nyayaphilosophy especially in nyaya philosophy.or books published .
Jaganadh.G University of Kerala

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From bb145 at COLUMBIA.EDU  Wed May  7 14:50:35 2003
From: bb145 at COLUMBIA.EDU (Bindu Bhatt)
Date: Wed, 07 May 03 10:50:35 -0400
Subject: Namaskar and Nationalism
Message-ID: <161227072714.23782.5805124725507184295.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Peter,
I grew up in Ranchi (jharkhand). I have heard many forms of greetings
there. Most of the Adivasis would greet with Johaar. The Bengalis used
Namaskaar. The Biharis mostly said Pranaam to the elders and Namaste to
everyone else. I myself use Pranaam for all my elders and Namaste to
everyone else. Raam Raam  in Bihar and Uttar Pradesh are quite popular
forms of greeting. The Vaishnavas of Gujarat usually greet by saying Jai
Shri Krishna. In Vrindavan  the favorite of all is Raadhe Raadhe. I have
also heard Punjabis use Namaste as the prefered form of greeting. Also,
Paai Laagu (Bihar), Page Laagu (Gujarat), Pari Painaa (Punjab) are used
to greet one's elders and Gurus by touching their feet. I am not aware
of Namaskaar being used only in the Brahmin community or when did it
become a popular form of National greeting. I don't think it is the most
popular form of greeting anyway. But then, I could be wrong. I believe
whether it be Namaste, namaskaar, Johaar, Raam Raam or any other way,
the key is that one brings ones palms together in a particular way (a
mudraa) to greet someone.

Bindu

Bindu Bhatt
South Asian Studies Librarian
305 IAB
420 West, 118th Street
Columbia University
New York
NY 10027
Tel: 212-854-8401
Fax: 212-854-3834

Peter Friedlander wrote:
>
> Dear List Members,
> I am doing some research on the development of Hindi greetings, and on the
> use of Namaskar.
> In particular I'm looking for references in early 20th century nationalist
> literature to the use of Namaskar as a national greeting, as prior to this
> it seems to have been a greeting only used by Brahmins, or to Brahmins by
> twice-born castes.
> has anybody ever seen anything on this?
>
> Dr Peter G. Friedlander
> Hindi Research Fellow
> Asian Studies Department
> La Trobe University, VIC 3086 Australia
> Tel: 61 3 9755 3048
> Fax: 61 3 9755 1880
> Email: p.friedlander at latrobe.edu.au
> WWW: http://www.latrobe.edu.au/asianstudies/staff/peter_friedlander.htm




From tmahadevan at HOWARD.EDU  Wed May  7 15:50:54 2003
From: tmahadevan at HOWARD.EDU (Mahadevan, Thennilapuram)
Date: Wed, 07 May 03 11:50:54 -0400
Subject: The "Net of Indra"
Message-ID: <161227072716.23782.13831588435657631179.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear George:
Great article on Soma.  Congratulations.

TP

-----Original Message-----
From: George Thompson [mailto:GthomGt at CS.COM]
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 11:38 AM
To: INDOLOGY at LISTSERV.LIV.AC.UK
Subject: Re: The "Net of Indra"


In a message dated 8/28/00 10:30:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, athr at LOC.GOV
writes:

> << Is there an English translation of Hermann Oldenberg's "Die
>  Weltanschauung der Brahmanatexte" (Gottingen 1919)?>>
>
>
>  I see none on the gigantic online union catalog OCLC (mostly North
>  American libraries but expanding into Europe and Japan).
>
>  Have you checked his Kleine Schriften (Wiesbaden: F. Steiner, 1967)?

*****************
The full title is:

*Vorwissenschaftliche Wissenschaft: Die Weltanschauung der BrAhamaNa-Texte*

I don't think that it has been translated into English.

George Thompson




From witzel at FAS.HARVARD.EDU  Wed May  7 16:58:28 2003
From: witzel at FAS.HARVARD.EDU (Michael Witzel)
Date: Wed, 07 May 03 11:58:28 -0500
Subject: new EJVS 9-1 : Soma - Haoma (Special Issue)
Message-ID: <161227072719.23782.4446158250906103714.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

We are are happy to announce the release of Vol. 9 of the Elect. Jour. of
Vedic Studies.

EJVS 9-1  (May 2003) is a special issue, edited by Jan Houben, dealing with
the vexed Soma (-Haoma) question.

The email version (in Kyoto-Harvard transcr.) has been sent out over the
past two days; it will appear on our website shortly:
http://users.primushost.com/~india/ejvs/

Other versions (with standard diacritics) to follow.

---

Note: The Soma-Haoma issue of the EJVS, of which this is the first part,
presents the direct and indirect outcome of a workshop on the Soma-Haoma
problem organized by the Research school CNWS, Leiden University, 3-4 July
1999.

CONTENTS

1. The Soma-Haoma problem: Introductory overview and observations on the
discussion (J.E.M. Houben)

2. Report of the Workshop (J.E.M. Houben)

3. Report concerning the contents of a ceramic vessel found in the "white
room" of the Gonur Temenos, Merv Oasis, Turkmenistan (C.C. Bakels)

4. Margiana and Soma-Haoma (Victor I. Sarianidi)

5. Soma and Ecstasy in the Rgveda (George Thompson)

6. Contributors to this issue, Part I

---

http://users.primushost.com/~india/ejvs/

HTML and  PDF versions to follow in due course.


Enjoy! MW
============================================================
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Department of Sanskrit & Indian Studies, Harvard University
2 Divinity Avenue, Cambridge MA 02138, USA

ph. 1- 617-496 2990 (also messages)
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From witzel at FAS.HARVARD.EDU  Wed May  7 16:58:28 2003
From: witzel at FAS.HARVARD.EDU (Michael Witzel)
Date: Wed, 07 May 03 11:58:28 -0500
Subject: [RISA-L] new EJVS 9-1 : Soma - Haoma (Special Issue)
Message-ID: <161227072729.23782.3166327640725538521.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

We are are happy to announce the release of Vol. 9 of the Elect. Jour. of
Vedic Studies.

EJVS 9-1  (May 2003) is a special issue, edited by Jan Houben, dealing with
the vexed Soma (-Haoma) question.

The email version (in Kyoto-Harvard transcr.) has been sent out over the
past two days; it will appear on our website shortly:
http://users.primushost.com/~india/ejvs/

Other versions (with standard diacritics) to follow.

---

Note: The Soma-Haoma issue of the EJVS, of which this is the first part,
presents the direct and indirect outcome of a workshop on the Soma-Haoma
problem organized by the Research school CNWS, Leiden University, 3-4 July
1999.

CONTENTS

1. The Soma-Haoma problem: Introductory overview and observations on the
discussion (J.E.M. Houben)

2. Report of the Workshop (J.E.M. Houben)

3. Report concerning the contents of a ceramic vessel found in the "white
room" of the Gonur Temenos, Merv Oasis, Turkmenistan (C.C. Bakels)

4. Margiana and Soma-Haoma (Victor I. Sarianidi)

5. Soma and Ecstasy in the Rgveda (George Thompson)

6. Contributors to this issue, Part I

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http://users.primushost.com/~india/ejvs/

HTML and  PDF versions to follow in due course.


Enjoy! MW
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From bb145 at COLUMBIA.EDU  Wed May  7 16:15:54 2003
From: bb145 at COLUMBIA.EDU (Bindu Bhatt)
Date: Wed, 07 May 03 12:15:54 -0400
Subject: Namaskar and Nationalism
Message-ID: <161227072722.23782.1322379956473831704.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Allen is absolutely right. Salaam is used by many irrespective of
religion as a greeting. I have used it many a times when talking to
people from Lucknow.
Bindu

Allen W Thrasher wrote:
>
> At the time of my first stay in Pune in 1969-70, a lot of low caste
> people used Salaam as a greeting, irrespective of religion (Hindu,
> Muslim, or Christian).
>
> Allen
>
> Allen W. Thrasher, Ph.D.
> Senior Reference Librarian
> Southern Asia Section
> Asian Division
> Library of Congress
> Jefferson Building 150
> 101 Independence Ave., S.E.
> Washington, DC 20540-4810
> tel. 202-707-3732
> fax 202-707-1724
> athr at loc.gov
> The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of the Library
> of Congress.




From p.friedlander at LATROBE.EDU.AU  Wed May  7 02:23:44 2003
From: p.friedlander at LATROBE.EDU.AU (Peter Friedlander)
Date: Wed, 07 May 03 12:23:44 +1000
Subject: Namaskar and Nationalism
Message-ID: <161227072701.23782.17773398090254665953.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear List Members,
I am doing some research on the development of Hindi greetings, and on the
use of Namaskar.
In particular I'm looking for references in early 20th century nationalist
literature to the use of Namaskar as a national greeting, as prior to this
it seems to have been a greeting only used by Brahmins, or to Brahmins by
twice-born castes.
has anybody ever seen anything on this?

Dr Peter G. Friedlander
Hindi Research Fellow
Asian Studies Department
La Trobe University, VIC 3086 Australia
Tel: 61 3 9755 3048
Fax: 61 3 9755 1880
Email: p.friedlander at latrobe.edu.au
WWW: http://www.latrobe.edu.au/asianstudies/staff/peter_friedlander.htm




From bb145 at COLUMBIA.EDU  Wed May  7 20:13:30 2003
From: bb145 at COLUMBIA.EDU (Bindu Bhatt)
Date: Wed, 07 May 03 16:13:30 -0400
Subject: Greetings Namaskaar
Message-ID: <161227072724.23782.11591055019916134822.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

I forgot to mention in my earlier email another common form of greeting.
It is "Aadaab arz hai". It is used by many irrespective of religion and
the gesture changes from joining of palms in Namaskaar to bowing and
moving one's right hand towards one's forehead in Aadaab.
Bindu




From Scharf at BROWN.EDU  Wed May  7 21:31:31 2003
From: Scharf at BROWN.EDU (Peter M. Scharf)
Date: Wed, 07 May 03 17:31:31 -0400
Subject: sabdasakti in Nyaya Philosophy
In-Reply-To: <BAY2-F95V6QcqnWwAeR000002c5@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <161227072727.23782.12617122147377852677.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

The second of three major chapters in my book The Denotation of
Generic Terms in Ancient Indian Philosophy deals with the meaning of
common nouns in Nyaya philosophy and an appendix translates most of
the relevant sutras.  The Bibliography and introduction will refer to
other sources.

The Denotation of Generic Terms in Ancient Indian Philosophy:
Grammar, Ny?ya, and M?m??s?. Transactions of the American
Philosophical Society, vol. 86, part 3. Philadelphia: APS, 1996
(revised Ph.D. diss., University of Pennsylvania, 1990).

The Ph. D. dissertation of Bruce Perry at the University of
Pennsylvania concerned commentaries on the first sutras of the Nyaya
sutra but would be important to consult.
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From hdehejia at CCS.CARLETON.CA  Thu May  8 08:27:47 2003
From: hdehejia at CCS.CARLETON.CA (Harsha V. Dehejia)
Date: Thu, 08 May 03 04:27:47 -0400
Subject: Greetings
Message-ID: <161227072732.23782.18016152495906765834.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

The common form of greeting in the Warkari panth of Maharashtra is "mauli
mauli" meaning "mother mother". The Warkaris are devotees of Vithobha at
Pandharpur.

Harsha Dehejia
Professor of Hindu Studies
Carleton University, Ottawa, ON.
Canada.




From mmdesh at UMICH.EDU  Thu May  8 10:20:41 2003
From: mmdesh at UMICH.EDU (Madhav Deshpande)
Date: Thu, 08 May 03 06:20:41 -0400
Subject: FW: Prof. A. M. Ghatage Passed away
Message-ID: <161227072734.23782.1342833985992036076.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

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From yogacara_assoc at HOTMAIL.COM  Fri May  9 05:28:04 2003
From: yogacara_assoc at HOTMAIL.COM (Dan Lusthaus)
Date: Fri, 09 May 03 00:28:04 -0500
Subject: sabdasakti in Nyaya Philosophy
Message-ID: <161227072737.23782.5664379246347715622.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

>       Any body can give alist of sudies in Verbal knowledge in
> nyayaphilosophy especially in nyaya philosophy.or books published .
> Jaganadh.G University of Kerala

Take a look at John Vattanky, _Nyaaya Philosophy of Language_ Delhi: Sri
Satguru, 1995.

The subtitle is: Analysis, Text, Translation and Interpretation of Upamaana
and "Sabda sections of Kaarikaavalii, Mukaavalii and Dinakarii.

The "sabdakha.n.da section begins on p. 113.

Dan Lusthaus




From mkapstei at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU  Fri May  9 09:14:21 2003
From: mkapstei at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Matthew Kapstein)
Date: Fri, 09 May 03 04:14:21 -0500
Subject: Namaskar and Nationalism
In-Reply-To: <008601c3143f$aef2aaa0$1b9fac83@pfriedlander>
Message-ID: <161227072739.23782.7198075209348274945.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

For what it's worth, 'salaam' was sufficiently
universal in pre-independence India
so that we find in colloquial Tibetan the idiom
'salaam byed,' 'to do salaam,' meaning roughly
'to greet a foreigner'.

Matthew Kapstein




From hdehejia at CCS.CARLETON.CA  Fri May  9 09:52:16 2003
From: hdehejia at CCS.CARLETON.CA (Harsha V. Dehejia)
Date: Fri, 09 May 03 05:52:16 -0400
Subject: Namaskar and Nationalism
Message-ID: <161227072741.23782.13092869522415466724.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

In the current discussion on Namaskar let us not forget the Sikh greeting
"Sat Shri Akal"

Harsha

Harsha Dehejia
Professor of Hindu Studies
Carleton University
Ottawa, ON. Canada.




From McComas.Taylor at ANU.EDU.AU  Tue May 13 23:52:13 2003
From: McComas.Taylor at ANU.EDU.AU (McComas Taylor)
Date: Wed, 14 May 03 09:52:13 +1000
Subject: Help sought with astronomical/astrological terms
In-Reply-To: <seb8e029.084@loc.gov>
Message-ID: <161227072743.23782.5062672600897645912.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Friends

I have encountered the following passage in Purnabhadra's recension of the
Pancatantra:

"astronomical specialities such as predictions, prophecies, horoscopy,
augury, the division of each house of the zodiac into three, nine, twelve
and thirty, the shadow of the gnomon, naSTa, muSTi, [their influence on the]
elements [of the body], their houses, [their influences on] life and
thoughts, culaka, and mASaka."

Can anyone help me with the terms naSTa, muSTi, culaka and mASaka?

Many thanks

McComas




From Martin.Gansten at TEOL.LU.SE  Wed May 14 08:49:10 2003
From: Martin.Gansten at TEOL.LU.SE (Martin Gansten)
Date: Wed, 14 May 03 10:49:10 +0200
Subject: Help sought with astronomical/astrological terms
In-Reply-To: <LHEDJEDCNOHBJHIMPCDHCEKACBAA.McComas.Taylor@anu.edu.au>
Message-ID: <161227072746.23782.4513297171620876208.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

>Can anyone help me with the terms naSTa, muSTi, culaka and mASaka?

naSTa-jAtaka is the art of reconstructing a lost/unknown horoscope;
naSTa-[prApti]-prazna is a form of horary astrology concerned with the
whereabouts of lost or stolen goods. I would suppose the former meaning to
be the more likely here. I believe muSTi refers to another form of prazna,
where the astrologer is to divine the nature of an object held in the
querent's closed hand, but I can't help with the other two.

Regards,
Martin Gansten




From witzel at FAS.HARVARD.EDU  Thu May 15 01:25:26 2003
From: witzel at FAS.HARVARD.EDU (Michael Witzel)
Date: Wed, 14 May 03 20:25:26 -0500
Subject: Summer Sanskrit
Message-ID: <161227072748.23782.7848132196113521260.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Our yearly reminder for those interested in a 7-8 week intensive course in
Sanskrit :

Harvard, June 23 - August 22 (exam day).

http://summer.dce.harvard.edu/2003/courses/sans.jsp

MW
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From: magier at COLUMBIA.EDU (David Magier)
Date: Thu, 15 May 03 08:58:25 -0400
Subject: Fwd: AIIS book prize
Message-ID: <161227072751.23782.7637732657718375013.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

I have been asked to forward this announcement to your mailing or
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>Subject: AIIS book prize
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From wedemeyer at HUM.KU.DK  Sun May 18 16:01:59 2003
From: wedemeyer at HUM.KU.DK (Christian Wedemeyer)
Date: Sun, 18 May 03 18:01:59 +0200
Subject: Svastika: history and interpretation
Message-ID: <161227072753.23782.13059581349999488362.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Friends,

A filmmaker I know is beginning a project centering on the svastika; in
particular, she seeks to dramatize the various meanings it has borne in its
long history, and the various groups which have adopted and reinterpreted
it.  She is interested in the broadest range of interpretations and uses:
its oldest roots in India (as well as any older roots), its history in Asia
and elsewhere, its adoption by Nazis, and its current use among (esp.
neo-fascist) groups in contemporary India.

She is currently seeking literature about the above issues as she develops
the film's treatment.  She would also be interested in speaking
with/emailing any scholars who have expertise in any of these areas.  Any
assistance would be appreciated.  Many thanks in advance.

Peace,

Christian Wedemeyer
University of Copenhagen




From rsalomon at U.WASHINGTON.EDU  Mon May 19 15:45:36 2003
From: rsalomon at U.WASHINGTON.EDU (Richard Salomon)
Date: Mon, 19 May 03 08:45:36 -0700
Subject: Svastika: history and interpretation
Message-ID: <161227072762.23782.2828634128004633994.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

An interesting but little-known essay on this topic is W. Norman Brown's The
Swastika: A Study of the Nazi Claims of its Aryan Origin (New York: Emerson
Books, 1933).

Richard Salomon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christian Wedemeyer" <wedemeyer at HUM.KU.DK>
To: <INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk>
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2003 9:01 AM
Subject: Svastika: history and interpretation


> Dear Friends,
>
> A filmmaker I know is beginning a project centering on the svastika; in
> particular, she seeks to dramatize the various meanings it has borne in
its
> long history, and the various groups which have adopted and reinterpreted
> it.  She is interested in the broadest range of interpretations and uses:
> its oldest roots in India (as well as any older roots), its history in
Asia
> and elsewhere, its adoption by Nazis, and its current use among (esp.
> neo-fascist) groups in contemporary India.
>
> She is currently seeking literature about the above issues as she develops
> the film's treatment.  She would also be interested in speaking
> with/emailing any scholars who have expertise in any of these areas.  Any
> assistance would be appreciated.  Many thanks in advance.
>
> Peace,
>
> Christian Wedemeyer
> University of Copenhagen
>




From Scharf at BROWN.EDU  Mon May 19 14:14:37 2003
From: Scharf at BROWN.EDU (Peter M. Scharf)
Date: Mon, 19 May 03 10:14:37 -0400
Subject: Svastika: history and interpretation
In-Reply-To: <5FA95E40EE2AD51190380090272724BB021D407D@humxsrv1.hum.ku.dk>
Message-ID: <161227072759.23782.323492664142915842.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Christian,
        I send you the references to svastika I ran across in
Patanjali's Mahabhasya and Sabara's (Mimamsa) Bhasya citing my book
The Denotation of Generic Terms.  I will also add the anectode that
in the front sitting room of the house of a certain Brahmana family
in Mysore is prominently displayed a monument.  Atop three foot
square base is a globe on top of which an eagle is perched with
spread wings.  On the front of the globe is a svastika.  The monument
is clearly a production of Nazi German origins.  The svastika in
early India is not associated with birds of prey perching on globes.
        Peter

pp. 27-28
[Patanjali]
"He gives the following two ordinary examples in which a substance
(dravya) is permanent and its shapes (?k?ti) are transient:
Clay connected with a certain shape is a ball.  Crushing the
ball-shape small pots are made.  Crushing the small-pot-shape cups
are made.  Similarly, gold connected with a certain shape is a ball.
Crushing the ball-shape necklaces are made.  Crushing the
necklace-shape bracelets are made.  Crushing the bracelet-shape
auspicious symbols (svastika) are made.  Again it returns to a gold
ball.  Again connected with another shape it becomes two golden
earrings the color of khadira embers.  Each shape is different but
the substance is the same.  By crushing the shape, only the substance
remains. 21

note 21
  MB-K, vol. 1, p. 7, lines 11-18.  Ch?ndogyopani?ad 6.1.4-6 has a
comparable passage.  Ten Principal Upanishads, p. 505.  See Biardeau
1964: 45 note 1 for references.

p. 211  Mimamsabhasya
Saying that the class property is directly perceptible, the V?ttik?ra
gives the example of three golden ornaments.  One directly perceives
that a golden necklace is a necklace, a golden svastika a svastika
and a golden cup a cup (1.1.5 ?2).

p. 270

Nanv ?k?ti? s?dhy?sti v?, na v??
(Objector:)  Is the class property something to be inferred, or not?
Na pratyak?? sat? s?dhy? bhavitum arhati.  Rucaka? svastiko
vardham?naka iti hi pratyak?a? d??yate.
(Proponent:)  Being directly perceptible it cannot be something to be
inferred.  We directly perceive a necklace, an auspicious symbol and
a cup. 5

note 5
A vardham?naka is a certain type of pot for drinking.  The Amarako?a,
2.9.32a (p. 313a) says, "Gha?a? ku?anip?v astr? ?ar?vo
vardham?naka?," on which the R?m??ram? says, "...dve p?trabhedasya."
Vaidyan?tha ??str? comments:
sauvar?apad?rthagatarucakatv?dirp?v?ntara-s?m?ny?bhipr?ye?a bodhyam.
Tray?nugatasuvar?atvarpas?m?ny?bhipr?ya? vedam.  He intends the
specific properties of being a necklace, etc. in golden entities.  He
also intends the general property goldenness present in all three.
MD, part 1, p. 61.  That is, the different names denote the narrower
class property as opposed to the one that the three objects have in
common.  Yudhi??hira M?m??saka (1977-86, vol. 1, p. 39) uses the
Sanskrit words minus their terminations for the three examples in
Hindi but adds, "?bh?a?avi?e?aa(specific ornaments)."
Ga?g?n?tha Jh? (1933: vol. 1, p. 21) translates the examples, "the
necklace, the road-crossing, the dish, and so forth," as if they are
totally unrelated things.  Taking them as golden ornaments, as
Vaidyan?tha and Yuddhi??hira M?m??saka do, brings out the relevance
of the objectors argument.



>Dear Friends,
>
>A filmmaker I know is beginning a project centering on the svastika; in
>particular, she seeks to dramatize the various meanings it has borne in its
>long history, and the various groups which have adopted and reinterpreted
>it.  She is interested in the broadest range of interpretations and uses:
>its oldest roots in India (as well as any older roots), its history in Asia
>and elsewhere, its adoption by Nazis, and its current use among (esp.
>neo-fascist) groups in contemporary India.
>
>She is currently seeking literature about the above issues as she develops
>the film's treatment.  She would also be interested in speaking
>with/emailing any scholars who have expertise in any of these areas.  Any
>assistance would be appreciated.  Many thanks in advance.
>
>Peace,
>
>Christian Wedemeyer
>University of Copenhagen


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From csaba_dezso at YAHOO.CO.UK  Mon May 19 09:45:01 2003
From: csaba_dezso at YAHOO.CO.UK (Csaba Dezso)
Date: Mon, 19 May 03 10:45:01 +0100
Subject: call for papers
Message-ID: <161227072756.23782.4078967839890164281.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear all,
Dr. Imre Bangha has asked me to forward the following
circular:


First Circular ? Call for Papers

The South Asian Legacy of Sir Aurel Stein

International Conference
5-6 March 2004, Leicester City Campus, De Montfort
University

organised by
PRASADA, Faculty of Art and Design
De Montfort University, Leicester

in collaboration with
Circle of Inner Asian Art, London
and
Department of Indo-European Studies, E?tv?s Lor?nd
University, Budapest

Sir Aurel Stein is regarded as the most important
British explorer of Central
Asia in the 20th century. Studies of Stein tend to
concentrate on his expeditions
on the Silk Road and deal relatively little with his
achievements in the field
of South Asian textual and material culture.

The conference plans to present Stein?s other
interests: his contact with South
Asia as well as with his native country, Hungary,
where he was first inspired to
explore the East and with which he remained in touch
until his death.

We encourage papers dealing either with the person of
Stein and his contact
with South Asia or with any aspect of South Asian
research to which Stein has made a contribution.

The conference will be composed of the following
panels

1. ?Stein and South Asian material culture? To this
panel we welcome proposals exploring Stein?s
work on South Asian archaeology, historical topography
and on Indian Art and its influences
outside South Asia
2. ?Stein and South Asian texts? Presentations on Old
and Middle Indo-Aryan texts that Stein
had either studied or discovered are invited.
3. ?Stein, Hungary and South Asia? This panel will
investigate how much Stein?s native country
contributed and responded to the development of the
ideas that lead him to India and later to
Central Asia.

The participants are invited to give a 40 minute
presentation followed by 20 minute discussion.
We are planning to publish the proceedings in a
volume.

Anyone interested in delivering a paper should contact
Imre Bangha (PRASADA, De
Montfort University, Leicester City Campus, Leicester
LE1 9BH, United Kingdom.
Email: imre.bangha at orinst.ox.ac.uk) by 30th June 2003.
Speakers are expected to send an abstract
of about 150 words by 15th September 2003. Papers
should be ready for circulation amongst panel
members by 28th February 2004.
Speakers will be provided with accommodation for two
nights (4-6 March) and meals during the
conference. Contribution to travel expenses for
participants from South Asia will be considered
and in exceptional cases for other participants, too,
depending on the funds raised for the conference.
The amount of participation fee for those who wish to
attend but do not read a paper will be
announced later.

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From athr at LOC.GOV  Wed May 21 15:47:14 2003
From: athr at LOC.GOV (Allen W Thrasher)
Date: Wed, 21 May 03 11:47:14 -0400
Subject: Svastika: history and interpretation
Message-ID: <161227072768.23782.2914377569747606569.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

The discussion raises another issue.  The sorts of books that are being
cited usually discuss what the svastika (and similar signs) are
"symbols" of or "represent."  But there is usually no textual evidence
in India that those who employed them thought of them as a "symbol" of
anything.  Rather they are talked of as being "auspicious" (subha,
kalyANa, puNya).  As far as the texts go, at least to my observation,
the auspiciousness resides in the forms themselves without their
representing any thing or idea.

I sometimes think there is an article to be written, contra Heinrich
Zimmer, "Why there are no myths and symbols in Indian art and
civilization."  Zimmer reads Indian culture via Plato (as have a lot of
others).

Allen

Allen W. Thrasher, Ph.D.
Senior Reference Librarian
Southern Asia Section
Asian Division
Library of Congress
Jefferson Building 150
101 Independence Ave., S.E.
Washington, DC 20540-4810
tel. 202-707-3732
fax 202-707-1724
athr at loc.gov
The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of the Library
of Congress.




From ssandahl at EAGLE.CA  Wed May 21 16:13:55 2003
From: ssandahl at EAGLE.CA (Stella Sandahl)
Date: Wed, 21 May 03 12:13:55 -0400
Subject: 12th WSC - Web-site updated
In-Reply-To: <3ECB95B9.760403C1@Helsinki.Fi>
Message-ID: <161227072770.23782.11193326417538878603.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Petteri Koskikallio,
 Just to let you know that I am still waiting for my conference funding.
That's why I haven't paid registration fee nor hotel reservation as yet.
Hope the Chair coughs up some money in the next short while. I'll get back
to  you.
Say hello to Asko.
Best
Stella Sandahl o

n 21/05/03 11:05, Petteri Koskikallio at Petteri.Koskikallio at HELSINKI.FI
wrote:

> The web-site of the 12th World Sanskrit Conference has recently been
> updated. The address is still the same, i.e. the following:
>
> http://www.helsinki.fi/hum/aakkl/12wsc
>
> The pages contain a tentative timetable of the conference week, list of
> participants & titles of their papers, and much more practical
> information. We plan to update the list of participants a few times
> before the conference week in July.
>
>
> Petteri Koskikallio
> Conference Secretary
>




From gruenen at MAIL.SUB.UNI-GOETTINGEN.DE  Wed May 21 12:51:09 2003
From: gruenen at MAIL.SUB.UNI-GOETTINGEN.DE (gruenendahl)
Date: Wed, 21 May 03 12:51:09 +0000
Subject: Svastika: history and interpretation
Message-ID: <161227072764.23782.11460498012293912376.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Here is a random collection of titles on the svastika and its
history. All relevant terms yield enormous numbers of hits
in our databases, which makes it difficult to sift the chaff
from the wheat, and I have made no such attempt. Some
of it is clearly propagandist, but may be of interest just for
that reason.


Best regards

Reinhold Gr?nendahl

*********************************************


 Heller, Steven:
 The swastika : symbol beyond redemption? / Steven
Heller; Jeff Roth,
 researcher.  New York : Allworth Press, c 2000.  VIII,
167 S. : zahlr. Ill. ;
 24 cm
 Includes bibliographical references (p. 159  161) and
index
 ISBN 1581150415 *hardcover



 Aigner, Dennis J.:
 The swastika symbol in Navajo textiles / by Dennis J.
Aigner.  Laguna Beach,
 CA : DAI Press, c2000.  32 leaves. : col. ill. ; 23 cm
 Features Navajo textiles from the author's private
collection
 Includes bibliographical references (leaf 17)
 ISBN 097018980X


 Severn, Lance:
 The swastika : lost sign in freemasonry?.  Reading :
Coxland, 1999.  60p. :
 ill. ; 21cm
 Bibliography.
 ISBN 1872543855   ISBN   (pbk)  ISBN   : ?5.00


 Quinn, Malcolm:
 The swastika : constructing the symbol / Malcolm Quinn.
 London [u.a.] :
 Routledge, 1994.  XIII, 176 S. : Ill.
 (Material cultures)
 Includes bibliographical references and index
 ISBN 041510095X


 Weger, Robert R.:
 The swastika / by Robert R. Weger.  1st ed.  Lafayette,
CA : Trebor Reger,
 c1991.  iii, 13, 42 p. : ill. ; 22 cm
 Includes bibliographical references (p. 4042)


 Choain, Jean:
 Introduction au Yi king : aux sources symboliques du
swastika / Jean Choain.
 Monaco : Editions du Rocher, c1983.  274 p. : ill. ; 23 cm
 (Collection Gnose)
 Bibliography: p. 260[269]
 Includes index
 ISBN 2268002330  : 120F

 Hayes, Will:
 The Swastika ; A study in comparative religion. Together
with illustrative
 readings from the bibles of the world.  Chatham: The
Order of the Great
 Companions, 1934.  59 S. 8".
 ((Calamus Leaves ; 1))


 Brown, William Norman:
 The Swastika : a study of the Nazi claims of its Aryan
origin / William Norman
 Brown.  New York, (1933)


 Gaillard, Louis:
 Croik et Swastika en Chine / L. Gaillard.  ChangHai,
1904
 (Vari?t?s sinologiques ; 3)



 Wilson, Thomas:
 The Swastika : the earliest known symbol, and its
migrations; with observations
 on the migration of certain industries in prehistoric times /
by Thomas Wilson.
  [Washington] : [Gov. Print. Off.], [1896].  S. 759  1030. :
zahlr. Ill.
 ([Annual report / U.S. National Museum] ; 1894)
 Teilausg. des "Annual report"



 Thomas, Edward:
 The Indian Swastika and its Western counterparts.
London, 1880.  31 S..
 [Umschlagt.]
 Aus: The numismatic Chronicle. 20. 1880


 Brinton, Daniel Garrison:
 The Ta Ki, the Svastika and the cross in America / by
Daniel Garrison Brinton.
  Philadelphia, Mass, 1889.  13 S.
 Read before the American Philosophical Society, dec. 21,
1888


 Lechler, J?rg:
 Vom Hakenkreuz : die Geschichte eines Symbols / von
J?rg Lechler.  2., erw.
 und verm. Aufl.  Leipzig : Kabitzsch, 1934.  89 S. :
?berw. Ill., graph.
 Darst.
 In Fraktur


 Zelent, Karol:
 Vom Steinzeitkreuz zum Hakenkreuz : eine kleine
Geschichte der
 Herrschaftssymbole ; rephilosophische ?berlegungen zur
Entwicklung der
 Herrschaft von der Urgeschichte bis zum
Nationalsozialismus / Karol Zelent.
 Duisburg : SOKOOPVerl., c 1998.  93 S. : Ill. ; 21 cm
 Literaturverz. 3 S.
 ISBN 3921473624 *kart.


 Bernhardi, Dietrich:
 Das Hakenkreuz ; Seine Geschichte, Verbreitung u.
Bedeutung.  8. Aufl. d.
 ehem. Schrift des 1923 verstorbenen Dr. Ludwig Wilser:
Das Hakenkreuz nach
 Ursprung, Vorkommen u. Bedeutung.  Leipzig: Fritsch,
[1936].  31 S. 8".



 Geschwendt, Fritz:
 5000 Jahre Hakenkreuz : die Geschichte des
Hakenkreuzes und seiner Bedeutung
 mit besonderer Ber?cksichtigung des Hakenkreuzes als
Heilszeichen der Germanen
 / f?r d. dt. Jugend einfach u. verst?ndlich dargest. von
Fritz Geschwendt.
 Breslau : Handel, [ca. 1934].  15 S. : Ill.
 (Schriften zu Deutschlands Erneuerung ; 23)
 In Fraktur


 Scheuermann, Wilhelm:
 Das Hakenkreuz als Sinnbild in der Geschichte /
Wilhelm Scheuermann.  Leipzig,
 1933


 J?ger, Karl:
 Zur Geschichte und Symbolik des Hakenkreuzes / Karl
J?ger.  Leipzig : Verl.
 Der Ritter vom Hakenkreuz, 1921.  23 S.



**************************************************
******************

Dr. Reinhold Gruenendahl
Niedersaechsische Staats- und Universitaetsbibliothek
Fachreferat sued- und suedostasiatische Philologien
(Dept. of Indology)

37070 G?ttingen, Germany
Tel (+49) (0)5 51 / 39 52 83
Fax (+49) (0)5 51 / 39 23 61
gruenen at mail.sub.uni-goettingen.de

FACH-INFORMATIONEN INDOLOGIE,
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http://www.sub.uni-
goettingen.de/ebene_1/fiindolo/fiindole.htm

GRETIL - Goettingen Register of Electronic Texts in
Indian Languages
http://www.sub.uni-
goettingen.de/ebene_1/fiindolo/gretil.htm




From ssandahl at EAGLE.CA  Wed May 21 18:45:41 2003
From: ssandahl at EAGLE.CA (Stella Sandahl)
Date: Wed, 21 May 03 14:45:41 -0400
Subject: 12th WSC - Web-site updated
In-Reply-To: <BAF11E03.4ADA%ssandahl@eagle.ca>
Message-ID: <161227072772.23782.2971223555129969782.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Sorry - this wan NOT meant for the Indology list. Apologies.
Stella Sandahlon

21/05/03 12:13, Stella Sandahl at ssandahl at EAGLE.CA wrote:

> Dear Petteri Koskikallio,
> Just to let you know that I am still waiting for my conference funding.
> That's why I haven't paid registration fee nor hotel reservation as yet.
> Hope the Chair coughs up some money in the next short while. I'll get back
> to  you.
> Say hello to Asko.
> Best
> Stella Sandahl o
>
> n 21/05/03 11:05, Petteri Koskikallio at Petteri.Koskikallio at HELSINKI.FI
> wrote:
>
>> The web-site of the 12th World Sanskrit Conference has recently been
>> updated. The address is still the same, i.e. the following:
>>
>> http://www.helsinki.fi/hum/aakkl/12wsc
>>
>> The pages contain a tentative timetable of the conference week, list of
>> participants & titles of their papers, and much more practical
>> information. We plan to update the list of participants a few times
>> before the conference week in July.
>>
>>
>> Petteri Koskikallio
>> Conference Secretary
>>
>




From pgreer at SJCSF.EDU  Wed May 21 22:31:29 2003
From: pgreer at SJCSF.EDU (Patricia Greer)
Date: Wed, 21 May 03 16:31:29 -0600
Subject: Monier Williams Dictionary
Message-ID: <161227072774.23782.6911611181478008509.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear List Members,

To whom does one write now to purchase the CD of the Monier Williams
Dictionary? ( The one I have is from 1999, and "University of Cologne"
is written by hand on the front, that's all.)

Thanks!

Patricia Greer




From Petteri.Koskikallio at HELSINKI.FI  Wed May 21 15:05:29 2003
From: Petteri.Koskikallio at HELSINKI.FI (Petteri Koskikallio)
Date: Wed, 21 May 03 18:05:29 +0300
Subject: 12th WSC - Web-site updated
Message-ID: <161227072766.23782.3913229200360839082.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

The web-site of the 12th World Sanskrit Conference has recently been
updated. The address is still the same, i.e. the following:

http://www.helsinki.fi/hum/aakkl/12wsc

The pages contain a tentative timetable of the conference week, list of
participants & titles of their papers, and much more practical
information. We plan to update the list of participants a few times
before the conference week in July.


Petteri Koskikallio
Conference Secretary




From indologia at LATINMAIL.COM  Thu May 22 01:51:00 2003
From: indologia at LATINMAIL.COM (humanidades India)
Date: Wed, 21 May 03 21:51:00 -0400
Subject: looking?
Message-ID: <161227072779.23782.14765380084686442876.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Professors:
Pranam!!! I am looking some URL about the Ayur veda medicine in comparative studies with the modern anatomy etc&#8230;.
With my best wishes
Horacio F. Arganis.
U A de C
uadec.mx



_________________________________________________________
http://www.latinmail.com.  Gratuito, latino y en espa?ol.




From magier at COLUMBIA.EDU  Thu May 22 14:01:00 2003
From: magier at COLUMBIA.EDU (David Magier)
Date: Thu, 22 May 03 10:01:00 -0400
Subject: Monier Williams Dictionary
In-Reply-To: <000001c31fe8$b9d1bd30$7c68b83f@Vinayagar>
Message-ID: <161227072782.23782.7478408714602221140.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

The free online version of MW will eventually be accessible via the
Digital South Asia Library, at

http://dsal.uchicago.edu/dictionaries/list.html#sanskrit

David Magier

At 4:31 PM -0600 5/21/03, Patricia Greer wrote:
>Dear List Members,
>
>To whom does one write now to purchase the CD of the Monier Williams
>Dictionary? ( The one I have is from 1999, and "University of Cologne"
>is written by hand on the front, that's all.)
>
>Thanks!
>
>Patricia Greer




From rbm49 at EXT.CANTERBURY.AC.NZ  Wed May 21 22:58:36 2003
From: rbm49 at EXT.CANTERBURY.AC.NZ (Richard Mahoney)
Date: Thu, 22 May 03 10:58:36 +1200
Subject: Monier Williams Dictionary
In-Reply-To: <000001c31fe8$b9d1bd30$7c68b83f@Vinayagar>
Message-ID: <161227072777.23782.6782208675895966402.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 04:31:29PM -0600, Patricia Greer wrote:

> To whom does one write now to purchase the CD of the Monier Williams
> Dictionary?

 Dr Thomas Malten (Universitaet zu Koeln): th.malten at uni-koeln.de

or

 Dr Claude Setzer (Fairfield, Iowa): cssetzer at mum.edu


Best regards,

 Richard Mahoney


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From jpo at UTS.CC.UTEXAS.EDU  Fri May 23 11:56:47 2003
From: jpo at UTS.CC.UTEXAS.EDU (Patrick Olivelle)
Date: Fri, 23 May 03 06:56:47 -0500
Subject: 12th WSC - Web-site updated
In-Reply-To: <3ECB95B9.760403C1@Helsinki.Fi>
Message-ID: <161227072789.23782.12319157564855961715.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear Petteri:  I seem to be losing people all the time. Edeltraud
Harzar is now unable to come because her husband is sick.

Patrick





>The web-site of the 12th World Sanskrit Conference has recently been
>updated. The address is still the same, i.e. the following:
>
>http://www.helsinki.fi/hum/aakkl/12wsc
>
>The pages contain a tentative timetable of the conference week, list of
>participants & titles of their papers, and much more practical
>information. We plan to update the list of participants a few times
>before the conference week in July.
>
>
>Petteri Koskikallio
>Conference Secretary




From navadipanyaya at HOTMAIL.COM  Fri May 23 09:42:03 2003
From: navadipanyaya at HOTMAIL.COM (jagan nadh)
Date: Fri, 23 May 03 09:42:03 +0000
Subject: Sanskrit university in Germany
Message-ID: <161227072784.23782.9160097062918907101.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Dear collegues,
                    any body can give informations on the sanskrit
University in germany?about the university,faculties nCourses admision
critirea  etc....
       Jaganadh.G .Kerala,India

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From gruenen at MAIL.SUB.UNI-GOETTINGEN.DE  Fri May 23 11:54:11 2003
From: gruenen at MAIL.SUB.UNI-GOETTINGEN.DE (gruenendahl)
Date: Fri, 23 May 03 11:54:11 +0000
Subject: Sanskrit university in Germany
In-Reply-To: <BAY2-F13800goZolmRB0000be08@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <161227072786.23782.18264915453910292464.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>


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From venkitesh at ETH.NET  Sun May 25 07:09:08 2003
From: venkitesh at ETH.NET (venkitesh)
Date: Sun, 25 May 03 12:59:08 +0550
Subject: looking?
Message-ID: <161227072791.23782.5835023590346421963.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

dear friend

please refer site vaidyan.com

regards

venkiteswaran

>Dear Professors:
>Pranam!!! I am looking some URL about the Ayur veda medicine in
comparative studies with the modern anatomy etc&#8230;.
>With my best wishes
>Horacio F. Arganis.
>U A de C
>uadec.mx
>
>
>
>_________________________________________________________
>http://www.latinmail.com.  Gratuito, latino y en espa?ol.
>
http://www.ddsl.net




From ucgadkw at UCL.AC.UK  Thu May 29 14:38:56 2003
From: ucgadkw at UCL.AC.UK (Dominik Wujastyk)
Date: Thu, 29 May 03 15:38:56 +0100
Subject: Uighur
Message-ID: <161227072793.23782.5790433966521081427.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io>

Klaus Lagally, the author of ArabTeX, the Perso-Arabic script support
package for TeX, is just having a go at adding support for Uighur.  He
would like to make contact with someone who knows about the Uighur script
and could give him feedback.

  Klaus Lagally <lagally at informatik.uni-stuttgart.de>


Best,
Dominik



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