was 22k [Off Topic]

Jaap Pranger yaap at XS4ALL.NL
Sun Jul 16 17:44:47 UTC 2000


Michael Witzel said:

>It must have been generated automatically and explains the 
>size double of that intended. 

Thanks Michael! Just waited for that!  ;-) 

My 2 Rs, <bold><color= red>I HATE HTML</color></bold> in emails, 
firstly because quite often it shows up all in Mark Up Glory, secondly 
because it does increase <bold>enormously</bold> the size of the mssg. 
On a metered connection we pay for the unsollicited and redundant 
rubbish that furthermore helps clogging the net. I am in Index mode, 
this may aggravate the problem, but nevertheless. 

Unfortunately it is often much more straightforward to send out 
messages in Plain Text Plus All The Superfluous Stuff than it is to 
send Plain Text Only. 

As soon as you style a single word the disaster is effectuated. 
In Outlook Express the Rubbish Mode is ON by DEFAULT! 
Many many people are not aware of the fact. Animated GIFs in 
email are already in place. Today we are just waiting for someone 
to decide that by Tomorrow we are in dire need of Video in email.  


>up. Mea culpa ...... you get 22 k? <

Yes sir, all kinds of headers telling me about parts, multiple parts, 
formats, boundaries, the message Plain Text content, PLUS many 
more lines containing *once more* the *same* content embedded 
in HTML code. 


I've copied below an example of an actual, real life message (slightly 
altered for obvious reasons), produced by Today's MS Office.


Character count in which Headers are disregarded: 

      Actual message:  17 characters
      Clutter:       3550 characters 




<Example Message>

X-XS4ALL-To: <yaap at XS4ALL.NL>
Date:         Mon, 12 Jul 2000 16:20:14 +0800
Reply-To: <TRIPITAKA-L at LISTSERV.BEKKOAME.NE.JP>
Sender: Discussion of Tripitaka
              <TRIPITAKA-L at LISTSERV.BEKKOAME.NE.JP>
From: Hsuan-Tsang <pilgrim at greattzuen.net>
To: TRIPITAKA-L at LISTSERV.BEKKOAME.NE.JP

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

>------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BFD475.39AA7DC0
Content-Type: text/plain;
        charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

UNSUB TRIPITAKA-L


>------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BFD475.39AA7DC0
Content-Type: text/html;
        charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

{html xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" =
xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" =
xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"}

{head}
{meta http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Diso-8859-1"}
{meta name=3DProgId content=3DWord.Document}
{meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 9"}
{meta name=3DOriginator content=3D"Microsoft Word 9"}
{link rel=3DFile-List href=3D"cid:filelist.xml at 01BFD475.350BEF60"}
{!--[if gte mso 9]}{xml}
 {o:OfficeDocumentSettings}
  {o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/}
 {/o:OfficeDocumentSettings}
{/xml}{![endif]--}{!--[if gte mso 9]}{xml}
 {w:WordDocument}
  {w:View}Normal{/w:View}
  {w:Zoom}0{/w:Zoom}
  {w:DocumentKind}DocumentEmail{/w:DocumentKind}
  {w:EnvelopeVis/}
  =
{w:DisplayHorizontalDrawingGridEvery}0{/w:DisplayHorizontalDrawingGridEve=
ry}
  =
{w:DisplayVerticalDrawingGridEvery}0{/w:DisplayVerticalDrawingGridEvery}
  {w:UseMarginsForDrawingGridOrigin/}
  {w:Compatibility}
   {w:FootnoteLayoutLikeWW8/}
   {w:ShapeLayoutLikeWW8/}
   {w:AlignTablesRowByRow/}
   {w:ForgetLastTabAlignment/}
   {w:DoNotUseHTMLParagraphAutoSpacing/}
   {w:LayoutRawTableWidth/}
   {w:LayoutTableRowsApart/}
  {/w:Compatibility}
 {/w:WordDocument}
{/xml}{![endif]--}
{style}
{!--
 /* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
        {mso-style-parent:"";
        margin:0in;
        margin-bottom:.0001pt;
        mso-pagination:widow-orphan;
        font-size:10.0pt;
        font-family:"Times New Roman";
        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";}
p.MsoAutoSig, li.MsoAutoSig, div.MsoAutoSig
        {margin:0in;
        margin-bottom:.0001pt;
        mso-pagination:widow-orphan;
        font-size:10.0pt;
        font-family:"Times New Roman";
        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";}
span.EmailStyle15
        {mso-style-type:personal-compose;
        mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;
        mso-ascii-font-family:Arial;
        mso-hansi-font-family:Arial;
        mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;
        color:black;}
@page Section1
        {size:8.5in 11.0in;
        margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;
        mso-header-margin:.5in;
        mso-footer-margin:.5in;
        mso-paper-source:0;}
div.Section1
        {page:Section1;}
--}
{/style}
{/head}

{body lang=3DEN-US style=3D'tab-interval:.5in'}

{div class=3DSection1}

{p class=3DMsoNormal}{font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier =
New"}{span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'}UNSUB =
TRIPITAKA-L {/span}{/font}{span
class=3DEmailStyle15}{font color=3Dblack face=3DArial}{span =
style=3D'font-family:Arial'}{o:p}{/o:p}{/span}{/font}{/span}{/p}

{p class=3DMsoNormal}{span class=3DEmailStyle15}{font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3DArial}{span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'}{![if =
!supportEmptyParas]} {![endif]}{o:p}{/o:p}{/span}{/font}{/span}{/p}

{p class=3DMsoNormal}{font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"}{span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:black'}{![if =
!supportEmptyParas]} {![endif]}{/span}{/font}{font
color=3Dblack}{span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'}{o:p}{/o:p}{/span}{/font}{=
/p}

{/div}

{/body}

{/html}

>------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BFD475.39AA7DC0--

</Example Message>







Have nice day,

Jaap

-- 
I rather *like* EGYPTIAN HIEROGLYPH SKIRTED MAN HOLDING 
JACKAL ALOFT BY THE THROAT. It gives such a vivid picture. 
© John H. J. (07 Apr 2000)





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