Kashmir, Tamilnadu, Panini, Abhinavagupta, etc.

Petr Mares erpet at COMP.CZ
Sat Feb 20 15:19:31 UTC 1999

> Why is there a FOUR HUNDRED year difference in the dates of P'u-t'o
> becoming famous between Prof. Chun-fang Yu and the buddhist Ba1 Zhou4?
> Religionwallahs push back the dates usually.
> May be Petr Mares can explain.

Dear Mr. Madhuresan

Actually prof. Ba1 Zhou4 has been a buddhist monk in his youth
but then he went to study in USA and now he either teaches in
some University or he is retired already, but he most probably is
not practising Buddhist. I would suggest Mr. Ganesan contacts
him and asks (I can try to get his email from the Chinese mailing
lists). He is known between American Buddhologist as well as
Sinologist concerned with Chinese Buddhist culture. His studies
were always aimed from the viewpoint of scholar without any
religius sauce. I read his excellent study of Central Asian
Buddshist scripture from the Tang Dynasty called "22 question on
Mahayana" and it was perfectly founded research.
Just for the reference (in case you find somebody who reads
Chinese) the whole article is here:
and the English and Chinese abstracts are here:
I did not read the whole article but both Chinese and English
abstract talk about 6th cent.


Petr Mares

I can find more info on the Chinese Pu3 Tuo2 Shan1 but it will be
just references without any deep study.

> SM
> ---"N. Ganesan" <naga_ganesan at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >
> > Petr Mares <erpet at COMP.CZ> wrote:
> > <<<
> > a recent (1987) article of a foremost
> > Chinese Buddhist scholar prof. Ba1 Zhou4. For many years he is
> > certainly one of the most knowledgable Chinese expert on Buddhism in
> > Tang Dynasty. [...]
> >
> > Abstract of the article called "Guan Yin and Asian Buddhism":
> >
> >  In addition, during the sixth century the famous
> > Mount P'u-t'o shan (Potala) in China became a famous spot of
> > pilgrimage associated with Kuan yin.
> > >>>
> >
> >  Thanks for providing the Buddhist's abstract.
> >
> >  But is it established that Mount P'u-t'o shan was popular
> >  in SIXTH centry??
> >
> >  My readings show it is later: 9th-10th century AD.
> >  Can you please check?
> >
> >  Chun-fang Yu, P'u-t'o shan: Pilgrimage and the creation of
> > the Chinese Potalaka
> > in Pilgrims and Sacred sites in China, 1992, U. Calif. press
> >
> > From that article: the expression san-la tao-ch'ang or
> > ssu-la ming-shan mentioning Mt. Wu-tai, Mt. Omei,
> > Mt. Pu-to and Mt. Chiu-hua together are quite late. (after 1300 AD,
> > these expressions come into use.)
> >
> > p. 191
> > "The emergence of P'u-t'o as a national and international
> > pilgrimage center for the worship of Kuan-yin was a late and
> > slow one, beginning in the tenth century, picking up momentum
> > in the sixteenth, and reaching a peak only after the eighteenth.
> > By contrast, the other"famous mountains" particularly Wu-t'ai
> > and Omei were already well known during the T'ang (618-907), the
> > same time when the cult of Kuan-yin also became popular."
> >
> > It appears many places were there for Kuan yin cult.
> > P'u-t'o as Chinese Mt. Potalaka is significant only from
> > and after 10th century AD.
> >
> > Regards
> > N. Ganesan
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