barathi at PC.JARING.MY
Sat May 16 11:33:37 UTC 1998
>Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 18:52:41 PDT
> how old are the palmyra records that are being refered to here...
>> But I have seen later palmyra records
>> where Smarthas are addressed as aiyar, ganapaadi,
>> sAstri, and as Sarma.
They are around two hundred years old.
I remember having coming across that word
in the KIrththanais of the "NandhanAr Chariththirak
kIrththanaikaL" composed by Gopala Krishna Bharathiyar
during the early part of the 19th century.
There is also an epigraphical record, listed in
the Epigraphical Records of the Madras Presidency.
It is No.139 of 1903. It is found on the south wall
of kitchen belonging to the MangaiBAgEsWara Temple
in Piranmalai of Sivaganga District. It is a mutilated
record of the SALuva king Immadi Narasimha rAya in
Saka 1422 Raudri. Records a gift for the merit of
There is also another record in the same place
dated Saka 1422 also mentioning Tipparasar Ayyan
receiving grants of land from Eppuli NAyakkar.
I have also seen a record which has never
been copied. It was in a Sri Vaishnava temple in
KAraiyur near Tiruppathur of Sivaganga District.
This was also about a gift of land to Tipparasar
Ayyan by Eppuli NAyakkar.
Saka 1422 works out to 1500A.D.
So we can surmise that the Aiyer epithet was
already used for Brahmins in 1500A.D.
At 07:36 PM 12/11/97 +0100, you wrote:
>Incidentally an apparently common set of delocutive verbs
>that wasn't mentioned is the series onomatop.+kR where onomat.
>is used as gati: khaaT+karooti, puut+karooti,... (khaaT represents
>the sound of spitting, I have not idea what puut is)
>Incidentally (this is a question -- if you can't stand "inane"
>questions don't read this) can the same construction apply to
>address sounds ?bhooH-karooti, ?dhik-karooti or even vocatives
>?amba-karooti and _if_ yes, will that be with a _transitive_ meaning
>or only in an intransitive meaning? (the kR compounds with onomatop.
>are intransitive of course). In other words can one say things like:
>teena saa dhik-krtaa? for he told her shame or teena saa amba-krtaa?
>for he called her mother? etc. Are such constructions possible?
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