Early excommunications from / inclusions into vedic ...

Vijay Bandi bandi at CS.UMN.EDU
Sun Jun 28 14:55:04 UTC 1998

> >To be serious, if the Visnu Purana has a (politically motivated, Y.
> >Vassilkov) "excommunication", the *opposite* is seen much earlier, in late
> >Brahmana time, when the long dead Rgveda personality (and Vasistha's
> >enemy), Visvamitra, literally adopts the PuNDra, Zabara, Pulinda, Muutiba
> >(Muuciipa), Andhra, "who live in large numbers beyond the borders."
> >(Aitareya Brahmana 7.18). He thus *includes* the non-Indo-Aryan tribes of
> >the Eastern of North India . Note that such tribes are still called
> >dasyu.
> >
> >I do not know of a better political strategy in the early period to expand
> >one's cultural and political influence.
> >
> This shows that information can be extracted even from the motivated
> and slanted accounts. By the way, Andhras (that is we) are to the south
> not east.

Didnt they come from southern bihar or there abouts? (source:
'Andhrula caritra' by Yetukuri). There is a hypothesis that they
started migrating south circa 1000 bce and completed the process
some 1500 years later. Another name for Andhra is Telugu (eponymous
with the language spoken by them) and the same author suggests
that this name means 'south-facing' ('ten' = south in proto dravid).

Its reasonable to assume that the immigrants from north and the
native nagas of deccan and river deltas merged to form what is now
telugu naadu.


> sarma.

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