From klaiman at CVAX.IPFW.INDIANA.EDU Wed Feb 3 13:40:29 1993 From: klaiman at CVAX.IPFW.INDIANA.EDU (M.H. KLAIMAN, ENGLISH & LINGUISTICS, INDIANA-PURDUE U.-FT. WAYNE) Date: Wed, 03 Feb 93 08:40:29 -0500 Subject: lists specific to individual languages Message-ID: <161227015649.23782.8244288099938064864.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Does anyone know if, aside from TELUGU, there are lists specific to other individual South Asian languages, ancient or modern? Mimi Klaiman >?From THRASHER at MAIL.LOC.GOV 03 1993 Feb GMT 08:59:08 Date: 03 Feb 1993 08:59:08 GMT From: ALLEN W THRASHER Subject: LISTS SPECIFIC TO INDIVIDUAL L Does anyone know if, aside from TELUGU, there are lists specific to other individual South Asian languages, ancient or modern? Mimi Klaiman ------------------------------------------ THIS IS A REPLY TO THE ABOVE MESSAGE SUBJECT OF THE REPLY: REPLY ------------------------------------------ There is one on Tibetan, a 'para-South Asian language,' but I have mislaid the information on it. Does anyone know about this network? Allen Thrasher Library of Congress thrasher at mail.loc.gov >?From THRASHER at MAIL.LOC.GOV 03 1993 Feb GMT 09:08:09 Date: 03 Feb 1993 09:08:09 GMT From: ALLEN W THRASHER Subject: SOFTSWITCH Lloyd,// Here is an explanation of Softswitch provided at my request fo r an Indian correspondent.////Dear Mr. Kuppuraj, Allen Thrasher forwarded to me your message about Soft Switch. We have an in-house EMail package here at LC called CA-eMail which has been in use for over 10 years and supports 3500 staff members. Soft Switch is a mail gateway that enables us to exchange mail between CA-eMail and SMTP (Internet mail). The way that Soft Switch works: CA-eMail users receive an Internet address of the general form LASTNAME at MAIL.LOC.GOV. (for example, the Internet address for my CA-eMail account is kearns at mail.loc.gov.) When an Internet user sends to this address, a router here at LC recognizes the host name of MAIL and routes those messages to the Soft Switch application on our IBM mainframe. Soft Switch then looks up the LASTNAME and translates that to the user's CA-eMail address and then sends the message on to the recipient's CA-eMail mail box. Also, so that the CA-eMail user can respond to the Internet user, Soft Switch saves the Internet user's address in its names directory. When the CA-eMail user responds to you, the message goes through Soft Switch and gets converted to an SMTP message with the proper address. I'm not sure if this is the type of info you wanted. Feel free to write back to me at the address below or to kearns at mail.loc.gov. ------------------------------------------------------------- | Tom Kearns | | | | Library of Congress Internet: tkea at seq1.loc.gov | | (202)707-8341 FAX: (202)707-0955 | ------------------------------------------------------------- ----Lloyd, Kearns confirms my conclusion that therefore the only pertinence of Softswitch to non-LOC people is that if they have several LOC correspondents or wish to acquire a new one, it might make it easier for the LOC person to supply them with the outsider's Softswitch address. Softswitch is confined to LOC and not used by anyone else including other Federal agencies. I have noticed by the way that they same outside correspondent can acquire multiple Softswitch addresses, I guess depending on multiple routes their messages take coming in. Allen From magier at cunixf.cc.columbia.edu Wed Feb 3 14:29:55 1993 From: magier at cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (David Magier) Date: Wed, 03 Feb 93 09:29:55 -0500 Subject: lists specific to individual languages Message-ID: <161227015651.23782.6690833032064404259.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> > Does anyone know if, aside from TELUGU, there are lists specific > to other individual South Asian languages, ancient or modern? > Mimi Klaiman > > I know of the following: TAMIL-L Tamil Studies listserv at dhdurz1.bitnet KHALSANET INTERNET: jasbir at alpha.ces.cwru.edu Sikhism generally; moderated and restricted [Jasbir Singh] (lots of Punjabi on this one) I'm sure there are more but that's all I have that are language-specific (there are many Tamil, Telugu, etc. lists, but these are about their respective regions/ethnic groups in general, rather than on language.). -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ ____________________________ 304 International Affairs /// -- David Magier -- \\\ Columbia University ||| Head, AREA STUDIES ||| New York, N.Y. 10027 ||| S&SE Asia, Latin America, ||| (212) 854-8046 / FAX: 212 854-2495 \\\ Mid-East, Slavic, Africa /// --------------------------- magier at columbia.edu From D.Wujastyk at ucl.ac.uk Wed Feb 3 10:04:50 1993 From: D.Wujastyk at ucl.ac.uk (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Wed, 03 Feb 93 10:04:50 +0000 Subject: Copper head of Vasishtha? Message-ID: <161227015646.23782.14215209446985166799.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> In the "Arts & Society" section of *Far Eastern Economic Review" of 3 December 1992, p.32, there is a report by M. K. Tikku in New Delhi entitled "A head for history: Copper image sheds light on Aryan migration". The report describes a copper head bought by Harry Hicks in 1958, now in his private museum in California, the Foundation for Cultural Preservation. Apparently the head has been dated as between 5200 and 5710 years old by scientific tests performed at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology's Laboratory for Nuclear Sciences in Zurich. [Any chance of checking this out, Peter?] I won't reproduce the argumentation, but the article claims that the head is that of Vasishtha as described in the Rig Veda. This is then taken as evidence of the Aryans being in India before the Indus valley civilization, and of them developing the RV in India, rather than before their arrival on the N. Indian plains. The article gives no references to scholarly literature, and the whole thing is rather puzzling. If the head really is that old, it is of great interest and significance, although I would not jump to the conclusions mentioned above. Does anyone else know more about this artefact? Can you point to literature on it? Dominik ---------------- Dominik Wujastyk d.wujastyk at ucl.ac.uk +44 71 611 8467 From D.Wujastyk at ucl.ac.uk Wed Feb 3 10:10:15 1993 From: D.Wujastyk at ucl.ac.uk (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Wed, 03 Feb 93 10:10:15 +0000 Subject: More info on the Oxford Sanskrit post Message-ID: <161227015647.23782.12917656072311149080.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> What follows is rather long: it contains the full text of the information sent to me from Oxford in response to a query about the recently announced Sanskrit job there. This posting contains some more general information about how Oxford sees the job as fitting into existing Indological studies, some of the critera which will be applied in selecting a candidate, the role of Sanskrit in general, and a detailed scale of salaries. ============================================================================ UNIVERSITY OF OXFORD In association with Wolfson College University Lecturership in Sanskrit The University proposes to appoint a University Lecturer in Sanskrit with effect from 1 October 1993 or as soon as possible thereafter. The lecturer will share responsibility with the Boden Professor of Sanskrit (currently Professor Gombrich) for the teaching of the B.A in Oriental Studies (Sanskrit), and will be asked to help the Spalding Professor of Eastern Religions and Ethnics (currently Professor Sanderson) with linguistic teaching for the M.Phil. in Classical Indian Religion. He or she will be expected to take a full share in the administration and examining for both courses. He or she will have primary responsibility for teaching elementary Sanskrit and for the B.A. compulsory paper in Paninian grammar. he or she will be encouraged to participate in developing current and possibly new courses at every level. However, it is not envisaged that the current emphasis in teh B.A. course on acquiring mastery of classical Sanskrit (sastra and kavya) will be removed. He or she will be expected vigorously to prosecute research. Since both Professor Gombrich and Professor Sanderson have research interests primarily in Indian religion, a research interest in another area of classical indology would be an advantage. The duties are those of a university lecturer, namely to engage in advanced study or research and to deliver in each academic year at least thirty-six hours of lectures and classes, spread over not less than six weeks in each term, under the direction of the Oriental Studies Board. The lecturer will be required to act as the supervisor of graduate students as and when requested to do so by a faculty board or other component body unless he or she can show reasonable cause, to the satisfaction of that board or other body, why on a particular occasion he or she should not do so. The lecturer will be required to take part in examining as and when requested to do so. The lecturership may be filled in conjunction with a fellowship at Wolfson College. Further details are contained in the attached document. Applications (ten copies, or one from candidates overseas), including a statement of age, qualifications, and experience, and the names of three referees, should be sent to Catherine Godman, Secretary, Oriental Studies Board, The Oriental Institute, Pusey Lane, Oxford, OX1 2LE, for receipt not later than 26 February 1993. All applicants should ask their referees to submit their confidential testimonials to Ms. Godman by the closing date. There is no application form and separate application for the college fellowship is not required. The following paragraphs set out the University's standard terms and conditions of employment for fixed-term university lectureships. The successful candidate will be appointed according to age on the Oxford lecturer scale, a copy of which is attached. in exceptional circumstances, faculty boards may propose the appointment of an individual up to two points above the standard age-wage point. Faculty boards may also, in exceptional cases, propose the awarding of up to two additional increments within the scale to lecturers in service. The top point of the salary scale is above the top substantive point of the national lecturer B scale. It has no bar. Additional remuneration is paid to those undertaking examining and graduate supervision. Those holding administrative appointments within the faculty may be eligible for additional payments from the discretionary elements of national salary settlements. The appointment will be subject to satisfactory completion of a medical questionnaire. All appointments are subject to the relevant provisions of the Statutes, Decrees and Regulations of the University, a collected volume of which is published as occasion requires. The University's appraisal scheme is not linked to arrangements for pay, promotion or probation. Under the scheme, discussions with appraisers are held every five years, and more frequently if requested by appraisers or appraisees. The scheme is designed to further personal development and to encourage reflection on institutional arrangements. The University encourages links with outside bodies. Although the holding of outside appointments such as consultancies is subject to the approval of faculty boards, no limit is set on the amount of money individuals may earn this way. The criterion is the amount of time such appointments take up: a maximum of 30 days per annum may be spent on such activities before any deduction in stipend is considered. The University has a generous maternity leave scheme which goes well beyond the statutory provisions. provided that they have at least one year's service with the University by the expected date of birth, or have at any time been eligible to receive full-rate Statutory Maternity Pay or were at any stage entitled to the benefits of a previous employer's paid maternity leave scheme, women are eligible for 18 weeks maternity leave on full pay, followed by up to 22 weeks unpaid maternity leave. Women with less than one year's service are eligible to apply for unpaid maternity leave. The University is actively pursuing the provision of improved creche facilities, and will also consider applications from female staff wishing to return to work on a part-time basis after the birth of a child. The University of Oxford's policy and practice require that entry into employment with the University and progression within employment will be determined only be personal merit and the applications of criteria which are related to the duties of each particular post and the relevant salary structure. Subject to statutory provisions, no applicant or member of staff will be treated less favourably than another because of his or her sex, marital status, race, ethnic or national origin, or colour. Where suitably qualified individuals are available, selection committees will contain at least one member of each sex. Removal expenses and travelling expenses in connection with the move to Oxford of the successful candidate are generally paid in full in appropriate cases. Professional expenses of up to Pounds 2,500 also are available where appropriate to cover legal and other costs in connection with a move. Further details are available on request. All reasonable interview expenses will be reimbursed. CMG/DMC 7 January 1993 AGE SCALE FOR UNIVERSITY LECTURERS (Scale effective from 1 April 1992) A: scale for lecturers in post and aged 28 or over on 1 April 1993 and for those appointed after this dater at age 28 or over. B: scale for lecturers appointed after 1 April 1983 at age 27 or under. A Pounds B ---------------------------------------------------------- 13,400 Age 25 and under 14,183 Age 26 Age 28 14,962 Age 27 Age 29 15.563 Age 28 Age 30 16,347 Age 29 Age 31 17,122 Age 30 Age 32 17,768 Age 31 Age 33 18,576 Age 32 Age 34 19,352 Age 33 Age 35 20,140 Age 34 Age 36 20,941 Age 35 Age 37 21,744 Age 36 Age 38 22,586 Age 37 Age 39 23,431 Age 38 Age 40 24,736 Age 39 Age 41 and over 26,047 Age 40 and over Increments become payable from the beginning of the quarterly period next following that during which the lecturer attains the qualifying age, except in the case of lecturers appointed after 1 April 1938 at age 27 or under whose increments become payable on the first day of the month in which their birthday falls. WP88.012 JDW/DB 2.11.92 WOLFSON COLLEGE, OXFORD Wolfson is a graduate college through which men and women graduates may be admitted to study for advanced degrees and diplomas of the University: there is no restriction on subject. There is a single Common Room for all Fellows and Graduate Students. A fellowship at Wolfson carries no additional stipend but all Fellows are entitled to Common Table (Pounds 23.80 per week for meals taken in Hall), various entertainment allowances and some financial support for travel for academic purposes. A free study-tutorial room in college will be offered, if no other room is provided by the University or the Faculty or another college. Fellows have no specified College teaching duties for Wolfson but are allowed to undertake teaching of graduates and undergraduates for any college. All Official Fellows are members of the College's Governing Body. November 1992 SANSKRIT STUDIES AT OXFORD Sanskrit is the key to Indian civilization, and it is in this spirit that it is taught at Oxford, thought the B.A. course necessarily concentrates on giving students a thorough grounding in the language, and the bulk of the teaching proceeds by the reading and explication of classical texts. Formally, the course is in two parts. The first, of six months, leads to the Preliminary Examination at the end of the second term, in late March. Teaching for this consists mainly of intensive instruction in the rudiments of the language. The second, the Final Honours course, takes seven terms (26 months). The Final Honour School is examined in 8 papers, 6 in Sanskrit and two in the subsidiary language (see below). There is only one set text paper, the one on language. For this paper the Sanskrit language is studied from two contrasting and complementary points of view. The indigenous study of Sanskrit grammar is given a large place in our course, not only because it teaches Sanskrit with authoritative accuracy, but, even more important, because linguistics was the paradigm science in Ancient India. On the other hand, historical and comparative linguistics have drawn western philologists to the study of Sanskrit; the student is therefore introduced to the historical philology of both Vedic (the oldest form of Sanskrit) and to Middle Indo-Aryan (i.e. Pali and Prakrit), the ancient languages derived from Sanskrit. Four more papers in Sanskrit are accounted for by a general unprepared translation paper, a general essay paper on Sanskrit literature and the arts, and an unprepared translation paper and essay paper in a chosen area of Sanskrit studies, such as literature, religion, philosophy, or even an area more closely defined. The choice of this more specialized area and the materials read in preparation for the examination in it is arranged between teachers and student. The final paper in Sanskrit is in a seilsujc;frti h tdetmy, if appropriate, offer a short dissertation instead of an exmiainppr Tecoceo usdaylnug isbtenOdIain,Pl n rki. Ufruaey eaeual t h oett fe odr ninlnug. Teeaanaeeaie ya nrprdtasain ae n n sa ae. h aeil in Old Iranian is mainly Zoroastrian literature, in Pali exclusively Buddhist literature, and in Prakrit both Jaina literature and secular creative literature (poetry and drama). Tesuyo h sbiir agaebgn a h tr ftescndya,adteefe ccut o bu hr ftewrs. h ore okfrPeis sTac orefSnki yMA olo,wihi ary ieyaalbe n ivsgo dieo uiir aeil I suncesr oko n asrtbfr einn h ors tog tdnsmyfidi aubet aiirz hmevswt eangr,(h citi hihSnki suulypited). On the other hand, for serious students of Indology, French is virtually essential, and German hardly less valuable, so that the best preparation for this course may well be to acquire a reading knowledge of those languages. --------------DmnkWjsy .uatkula.k +47 11 8467 From AKR at BROWNVM.brown.edu Thu Feb 4 02:45:55 1993 From: AKR at BROWNVM.brown.edu (Ajit Ranade) Date: Wed, 03 Feb 93 21:45:55 -0500 Subject: Kautilya's arthashaastra Message-ID: <161227015653.23782.15649611465627668609.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Is there any material archived (tranliteration, translations etc) from or of Kautilya's arthashaastra? AAlso could anyone recommend a relatively recent translation which has both the sanskrit and english printed alongside? (my only refernce for an english translation is a 1956 edition of Dr. R Shamasastry's "Arthasastra"). Thanks for any response. Ajit Ranade. Dept of Economics, Holy Cross College Worcester MA. From rwl at emx.cc.utexas.edu Thu Feb 4 04:02:16 1993 From: rwl at emx.cc.utexas.edu (rwl at emx.cc.utexas.edu) Date: Wed, 03 Feb 93 22:02:16 -0600 Subject: None Message-ID: <161227015655.23782.3289267413271379372.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> THE COUNCIL OF AMERICAN OVERSEAS RESEARCH CENTERS is coordinating a fellowship program funded by a grant from the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation. the program of fellowships has been established to enable Czech, Hungarian, Polish and Slovak scholars in the humanities and allied social sciences to carry out research at institutes of advanced study in Western Europe. The two-year pilot program will fund short-term residencies for two to three Mellon Research Fellows annually at each of eight designated institutes in England, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, and the Netherlands. The fellowships are intended to serve younger scholars who have already obtained the Ph.D. or have equivalent experience and who wish to undertake a specific research project at one of the participating institutes. Each institute will issue its own announcement and will and will handle all matters concerning application and selection. Czech, Hungarian, Polish, and Slovak scholars who wish to apply for years 1993-1994 or 1994-1995 should obtain an announcement from their universities or contact the participating institute directly for an application. Participating institutes are: ********** American Academy in Rome via Angelo Masina 5 00153 Rome, Italy Telephone: 39-6-581-461 Fax: 39-6-581-0788 Contact: Ms. Buff Kavelman AAR 41 East 65th Street New York, New York 10021 Telephone: (212) 517-4200 Fax: (212) 517-4893 ************ American School of Classical Studies at Athens 54 Souidias Street 106 76 Athens, Greece Telephone: 30-1-723-6313 Fax: 30-1-723-9281 Contact Ms. Ludmilla Schwarzenberg Director Mayer House, ASCSA 41 East 72nd Street New York, New York 10021 Telephone (212) 861-0302 Fax: (212) 988-6824 ************ Herzog August Bibliothek Wolfenbuttel Contact: Dr. Gillian Bepler Herzog August Bibliothek Wolfenbuttel Postfach 1364, Lessingplatz 1 D-3340 Wolfenbuttel, Germany Telephone: 49-5331-8080 Fax: 49-5331-808173 *********** Maison des Sciences de l'Homme Contact: Maurice Aymard, Assistant Director Maison des Sciences de l'Homme 54 Boulevard Raspail Paris 75006 France Telephone: 33-1-49-54-20-20 Fax: 33-1-45-48-83-53 ********** Netherlands Institute for Advanced Study in the Humanities and Social Sciences Contact: drs. Jos. J.M. Hooghuis Secretary, Scholarship Committee Netherlands Institute for Advanced Study in the Humanities and Social Sciences Meijboomlaan 1 2242 PR Wassenaar, Netherlands Telephone: 31-1751-19302 Fax: 31-1751-17162 ********** Villa I Tatti The Harvard University Center for Italian Renaissance Studies Via de Vincigliata 26 Florence 50135 26 Italy Telephone: 39-55-603-251 Fax: 39-55-603-383 Contact: Ms. Alexa M. Mason Assistant Director for External Relations Villa I Tatti, Harvard University University Place 124 Mount Auburn Street Cambridge, Massachusetts 02138-5762 Telephone: (617) 495-8042 Fax: (617) 495-8041 ********** The Warburg Institute Contact: Prof. Nicholas Mann, Director The Warburg Institute The University of London Woburn Square London WC1H OAB, England Telephone: 44-71-580-9663 Fax: 44-71-436-2852 ********** Wissenschaftskolleg zu Berlin Contact: Dr. Rienhar Meyer-Kalkus, Deputy Secretary Wissenschaftskolleg zu Berlin Wallostrasse 19 D-1000 Berlin 33, Germany Telephone: 49-30-890-1118 Fax: 49-3-8900-1351 Richard Lariviere From FALK at ibm.ruf.uni-freiburg.de Fri Feb 5 11:45:09 1993 From: FALK at ibm.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (Harry Falk) Date: Fri, 05 Feb 93 11:45:09 +0000 Subject: Copper head of Vasishtha? Message-ID: <161227015657.23782.13641652684542560991.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> if I recall it properly the head was subject of a question on this list about a year ago, the question was put by Johannes Bronkhorst. The head is shown in an article by probably the same author Dom mentions in one of the latest issues of the Journal of Indo-European Studies (JIES). I am not an art historian, but dating this thing earlier than the beginning of the current millennium would be absurd. It is quite some time now I read the JIES article, but I still remember the reaction: the author(s) is either completety out of his mind or an impostor. The complete lack of secondary literature in the article and the (seemingly) false claim to have a reputed institute (does it exist, Peter?) backing his datings make the second solution more likely. Harry >?From THRASHER at MAIL.LOC.GOV 05 1993 Feb GMT 10:20:10 Date: 05 Feb 1993 10:20:10 GMT From: ALLEN W THRASHER Subject: LOC ARREARAGES PROGRAMS The request for possible contract employees for processing of arrearages in the custody of the Southern Asia Section of the Library of Congress which I sent out last week on several networks has produced a number of replies relating to Tibetan. Any enquiries about Tibetan should go to the Reference Librarian for Tibet, Susan Meinheit. Her email address is MEINHEIT at MAIL.LOC.GOV. Please note also that the messages referred to two separate matters. First sent out was a notice of a junior fellows program meant primarily for graduate and undergraduate students, though not limited to them. This is still open; deadline March 1. I can fax the information package to interested persons. The second message was an emergency one for possible contract employees, a non-competitive program. We had a deadline of a few hours but were able to find available candidates for two projects. We have no news on whether they were accepted; there was much competition for a relatively small amount of money. THIS PROGRAM IS CLOSED, but we have put volunteers or suggestions into a file for future reference. By the way, LOC can accomodate volunteer, unremunerated work on arrearages, e.g. cataloging mss collections. These don't look bad on a bibilography or c.v. Allen Thrasher From kashyap at pepper.rutgers.edu Sun Feb 7 18:35:46 1993 From: kashyap at pepper.rutgers.edu (kashyap at pepper.rutgers.edu) Date: Sun, 07 Feb 93 13:35:46 -0500 Subject: Vegetarianism in Hinduism Message-ID: <161227015661.23782.5819880059738757584.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Can anyone suggest some good books on Vegetarianism and Hinduism ? ---Vipul From FALK at ibm.ruf.uni-freiburg.de Sun Feb 7 18:32:46 1993 From: FALK at ibm.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (Harry Falk) Date: Sun, 07 Feb 93 18:32:46 +0000 Subject: Help on books? Message-ID: <161227015659.23782.8278398552893548192.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> lately there has been some discussion about what this group is good for. Too many resignments let to the impression that there is little substance in what is offered for communication. Since I have a severe problem with not getting a book I'd like to read I wonder if the purposes of this list could be extended to providing help with titles otherwise inaccessible. What I miss is: Gopinath Kaviraj (ed.): Festschrift Aditya Nath Jha (I do not know if "Festschrift" is accually printed on the cover), Delhi 1969. From this book I need nothing but pp. 394-404: B. Prakash: On Panini 5.3.99. The book seems not to be available in Germany. They sent me a Aditya Natha Jha Comm.Vol (JGJSV 31.1975), nice but useless. If some good soul out there could send me a Xerox (H.F.; Erwinstr. 26; DW-7800 Freiburg) it would be necessary to pass a note to the list in order to prevent others from sending 20 odd more copies and to tell me frankly how I can return the help. Is it necessary to discuss this sort of possible service? Or are we already completely satisfied with what has been achieved so far? Harry Falk From LIGI355 at utxvms.cc.utexas.edu Mon Feb 8 01:49:51 1993 From: LIGI355 at utxvms.cc.utexas.edu (Bob King - ligi355@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu) Date: Sun, 07 Feb 93 19:49:51 -0600 Subject: Help on books? Message-ID: <161227015663.23782.6012385497010074006.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> :Everybody INDOLOGICAL: I am. Cordially, Bob King From ucgadkw at ucl.ac.uk Mon Feb 8 10:23:23 1993 From: ucgadkw at ucl.ac.uk (ucgadkw at ucl.ac.uk) Date: Mon, 08 Feb 93 10:23:23 +0000 Subject: Help on books? Message-ID: <161227015665.23782.5348295420244469272.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Harry's request for a few pages from a hard-to-find book seems perfectly acceptable to me, especially since this list (although 200 strong) consists largely of friends and associates. Of course it is a bit of a bother for someone to actually do the copying, unless the book happens to be easily to hand. *However* there is at least one Indological library which is a member of this list, namely the Indian Institute in Oxford. I believe it would be very widely appreciated if the Ind. Inst. were able to accept photocopy orders via this group, or perhaps directly, but by email. How about it? It would also be great if inter-library lns could be initiated in the same way. I would be very interested to hear a response from the Ind. Inst. librarians, and also from any other Indological librarians on this list. Craig? I myself work as a curator at the Wellcome Institute, which has a good and growing collection of Sanskrit texts on ayurveda, tantra, yoga, and related subjects. Also, of course, we have a large MS collection (ca. 6000 Sanskrit, 500 Hindi, etc.). I would be glad to be of service in this subject area. Dominik From ucgadkw at ucl.ac.uk Mon Feb 8 10:27:04 1993 From: ucgadkw at ucl.ac.uk (ucgadkw at ucl.ac.uk) Date: Mon, 08 Feb 93 10:27:04 +0000 Subject: Vegetarianism in Hinduism Message-ID: <161227015667.23782.171214520445645180.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> On Feb 7, 6:49pm, Vipul wrote: > Can anyone suggest some good books on Vegetarianism and Hinduism ? The classic work is by L. Alsdorf, Beitraege zur Geschichte von Vegetarianismus und Rinderverehrung in Indien. Wiesbaden: Steiner, 1962. 69p. Dominik >?From THRASHER at MAIL.LOC.GOV 08 1993 Feb GMT 09:35:09 Date: 08 Feb 1993 09:35:09 GMT From: ALLEN W THRASHER Subject: HELP WITH BOOKS I would be glad to send out photocopies of requested articles if they are of a length such that we would usually send them out free. Otherwise I will notify the sender or the net and let them order from LOC's Photocuplication Division. Allen Thrasher Library of Congress Washington DC 20540-4740 202-707-5600 fax 202-707-1724 thrasher at mail.loc.gov. >?From THRASHER at MAIL.LOC.GOV 08 1993 Feb GMT 09:42:09 Date: 08 Feb 1993 09:42:09 GMT From: ALLEN W THRASHER Subject: MAGIC SQUARES Is there anyone out there interested in magic squares in India? I have collected a large number of sources in print and MS in Sanskrit, Prakrit, and vernaculars. The late Schuyler Cammaan published two articles and also did further researches he never published. I discovered from an ephemera bibliography of Dr. Mahdihassan of the Hamdard Institute in Karachi that he has published a number of articles on the subject. "Magic squares" means not just any yantra or talisman but square arrays of numbers such that any column, row, or diagonal yields a constant sum. There are also other "magic" figures such a hegagonal or star shaped arrays. By extension other numerical yantras fall into the same area of folkloristic investigation. My impression is that in the Indian context the Jains have done the most work with them mathematically. Several major Jain hymns are associated with magic squares and I have noted that in the printed books and magical MSS from Jains the numbers work out right far more often than in the Hindu ones. Of course, both the magical and the mathematical aspects of these things have been intensively cultivated in the Islamic world. Allen Thrasher thrasher at mail.loc.gov >?From THRASHER at MAIL.LOC.GOV 08 1993 Feb GMT 09:43:09 Date: 08 Feb 1993 09:43:09 GMT From: ALLEN W THRASHER Subject: CODES IN INDIA Has anyone done any investigations of codes, cyphers, or cryptographic scipts or other cryptographic phenomena in traditional India? Allen Thrasher thrasher at mail.loc.gov >?From THRASHER at MAIL.LOC.GOV 08 1993 Feb GMT 10:24:10 Date: 08 Feb 1993 10:24:10 GMT From: ALLEN W THRASHER Subject: HELP ON BOOKS Dear Harry and networkers, The I have found the article Dr. Falk requests (Buddha Prakash, "On Panini's sutra v,3,99: jivikarthe capanye") in v. 3 of Samskrti : Da. Aditya Natha Jha abhinandana-grantha, Dilli: Da. Adityanatha Jha Abhinandana-grantha Samyojana-samiti, 1969, Library of Congress call no. DS481 .J45 S25 (Orien Sans), card no. 77-906416, and am sending him a photocopy. Allen Thrasher Southern Asia Section Library of Congress >?From THRASHER at MAIL.LOC.GOV 08 1993 Feb GMT 10:31:10 Date: 08 Feb 1993 10:31:10 GMT From: ALLEN W THRASHER Subject: DC SANSKRIT READING GROUP Is there anyone in the Washington, DC area interested in getting together with Ken Langer and me for a weekly or biweekly reading group in Sanskrit? Allen Thrasher thrasher at mail.loc.gov From ASHER at vx.cis.umn.edu Mon Feb 8 15:33:39 1993 From: ASHER at vx.cis.umn.edu (RICK ASHER) Date: Mon, 08 Feb 93 10:33:39 -0500 Subject: Copper Head Message-ID: <161227015673.23782.15482068837974353525.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> I was out of town when the discussion of a copper image was posted on the network. Apparently the image was dated 5200-5710 B.P. (Before Present) by a laboratory in Zurich. I am an art historian and can't imagine what tests they might have applied. Organic material can be dated by c-14 and other means, but unless the image had a core that included organic material, as often they do, then it would be impossible to assign a date on the basis of any scientific test I know. In any event, the date would not provide proof of Aryan presence. The Harappans, for example, made ample copper objects, which we still have, as did late Harappans, even in Central India, for example, some objects found at Daimabad. Nor do I think it's possible to provide compelling evidence that the head represents Vasishtha since we don't have others representing him; a comparison with a written/oral description is just not very persuasive. I've not read the article and certainly plan to do so, but for now I'm skeptical. Rick Asher >?From THRASHER at MAIL.LOC.GOV 08 1993 Feb GMT 11:50:11 Date: 08 Feb 1993 11:50:11 GMT From: ALLEN W THRASHER Subject: RE: MAGIC SQUARES Hi, I have done some research on the field of magically filled hexagons (i.e. that yield an equal sum in all three directions), and am very much interested in references to such things in Indian mythology/tradition. Also the other material (about magic squares and stars) has my interest. Can you please send me more about this subject. The Hexagons are interesting to me since there is only one way to fill a hexagonal grid of 19 cells with the numbers 1...19 in a 'magical' way. Larger hexagonal grids cannot be filled in a magical way with the numbers 1..n (for n = 37, 61, ...), as is easy to prove. A way out is using numbers from other intervals. I have made magical arrangements for 37-cell grids with the numbers 3...39. I wonder whether such things have been done in ancient India, since it costed me several days of computer time to get it right, and I was not able to find any pattern in it. (for those interesting, a publication about this is somewhere in the process of going to a magazine... but it has nothing to do with indology) Jeroen -- Jeroen Hellingman E-mail: 't Zand 2 Phone: +31-3473-73935 (home) 4133 TB Vianen (18.00--21.00 GMT) The Netherlands Answer in English, German, or Dutch. ------------------------------------------ THIS IS A REPLY TO THE ABOVE MESSAGE SUBJECT OF THE REPLY: REPLY ------------------------------------------ Dear Jeroen, I am not aware of any magic hexagons in India; I merely listed them as an example of the sorts of figures that can be "magic" in the mathematical sense. Did you ever see Martin Gardner's article in his old "Mathematical games" department of Scientific American magazine on magical hexagons? A Philadelphia streetcar conductor was the first to discover one. If you aren't aware of it I can hunt up the reference, though my papers are disordered from several moves. I'll also see if I have any info. on magic stars in India. Alen Thrasher Southern Asia Section Library of Congress Washington, DC 20540-4740 tel. 202-707-5600 fax 202-707-1724 thrasher at mail.loc.gov From MBA at PSULIAS.PSU.EDU Mon Feb 8 15:56:36 1993 From: MBA at PSULIAS.PSU.EDU (ANANDAKRISHNAN, MARTHA) Date: Mon, 08 Feb 93 10:56:36 -0500 Subject: Vegetarianism in Hinduism Message-ID: <161227015671.23782.12043089874998287875.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Are you interested in cookbooks or books about ethics and vegetarianism or does it have to be connected with Hinduism? Diet for a Small Planet ( Frances Moore Lappe) has recently been updated and is a great sourcebook for all kinds of facts about eating ethically. I have a cookbook called Lord Krishna's cuisine by Yamuna Devi. It's a wonderful book for Indian recipes, though I have to add garlic and onions to everything...and lots more chili. Let me know your more specific interests. I'm one of those tiresome vegetarian evangelists, if you know what I mean. Martha Anandakrishnan From ZYSK at ACFcluster.NYU.EDU Mon Feb 8 18:18:21 1993 From: ZYSK at ACFcluster.NYU.EDU (ZYSK at ACFcluster.NYU.EDU) Date: Mon, 08 Feb 93 14:18:21 -0400 Subject: MAGIC SQUARES Message-ID: <161227015677.23782.15093188690904881485.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> The person most interested in magic squares is Arion Rosu, who is not on the net, but who can be reached by regular mail at 35C, rue Henri Simon 78000, VERSAILLES France I know that he would be happy to receive whatever you might have on the subject. >?From THRASHER at MAIL.LOC.GOV 08 1993 Feb GMT 15:53:15 Date: 08 Feb 1993 15:53:15 GMT From: ALLEN W THRASHER Subject: RE: MAGIC SQUARES The person most interested in magic squares is Arion Rosu, who is not on the net, but who can be reached by regular mail at 35C, rue Henri Simon 78000, VERSAILLES France I know that he would be happy to receive whatever you might have on the subject. ------------------------------------------ THIS IS A REPLY TO THE ABOVE MESSAGE SUBJECT OF THE REPLY: REPLY ------------------------------------------ Thanks to whoever sent in the message about Arion rosu's interest in magic squares. Allen Thrasher From jhelling at cs.ruu.nl Mon Feb 8 16:55:07 1993 From: jhelling at cs.ruu.nl (Jeroen Hellingman) Date: Mon, 08 Feb 93 16:55:07 +0000 Subject: MAGIC SQUARES Message-ID: <161227015669.23782.6889636358127548576.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Hi, I have done some research on the field of magically filled hexagons (i.e. that yield an equal sum in all three directions), and am very much interested in references to such things in Indian mythology/tradition. Also the other material (about magic squares and stars) has my interest. Can you please send me more about this subject. The Hexagons are interesting to me since there is only one way to fill a hexagonal grid of 19 cells with the numbers 1...19 in a 'magical' way. Larger hexagonal grids cannot be filled in a magical way with the numbers 1..n (for n = 37, 61, ...), as is easy to prove. A way out is using numbers from other intervals. I have made magical arrangements for 37-cell grids with the numbers 3...39. I wonder whether such things have been done in ancient India, since it costed me several days of computer time to get it right, and I was not able to find any pattern in it. (for those interesting, a publication about this is somewhere in the process of going to a magazine... but it has nothing to do with indology) Jeroen -- Jeroen Hellingman E-mail: 't Zand 2 Phone: +31-3473-73935 (home) 4133 TB Vianen (18.00--21.00 GMT) The Netherlands Answer in English, German, or Dutch. From banks at vax.oxford.ac.uk Mon Feb 8 19:23:11 1993 From: banks at vax.oxford.ac.uk (MARCUS BANKS, ISCA, OXFORD) Date: Mon, 08 Feb 93 19:23:11 +0000 Subject: MAGIC SQUARES Message-ID: <161227015674.23782.12741839607130347258.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> I too would be interested in any work on magical squares, or more generally, magical (and unmagical) diagrams in Indian traditions - Jain especially, but not exclusively. I would also be interested, Allen, in references to the two Schuyler Cammaan articles you mention. (This is in the context of something anthropological I have to write fairly soon on the use of diagrams and other non- figurative representations). Marcus --------------------------------------------- Marcus Banks Institute of Social and Cultural Anthropology 51 Banbury Road Oxford OX2 6PE banks at vax.ox.ac.uk ---------------------------------------------- From SINSLER at YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu Tue Feb 9 15:11:19 1993 From: SINSLER at YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (STANLEY INSLER) Date: Tue, 09 Feb 93 10:11:19 -0500 Subject: CODES IN INDIA Message-ID: <161227015683.23782.1478651102394697404.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> The earliest mention of codes in India that I know is Albrecht Weber's "Ein mystisches Alphabet" published in Indische Studien Vol. 2, 315-16, with regard to a section of the Ramapurvatapaniyopanishad. After the analysis Weber writes, "Die meisten dieser Namen kehren in dem Tantra-Ceremoniell and in den Zauberbuchern wieder, bei der Lehre naemlich von der Zauberkraft der Buchstaben in Diagrammen und Amuletten, ausserdem aber auch noch under den Namen der Toene (kala, raga). S. Insler From yanom at JPNKSUVX.EARN Tue Feb 9 11:37:43 1993 From: yanom at JPNKSUVX.EARN (yanom at JPNKSUVX.EARN) Date: Tue, 09 Feb 93 11:37:43 +0000 Subject: MAGIC SQUARES Message-ID: <161227015678.23782.17070697816460962402.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> The person who knows history of Indian magic square very well is Takao HAYASHI, Prof. of Doshisha University, Kyoto, Japan. He is on network and subscribed INDOLOGY, but he does not access very frequently. His e-mail address is F50893 at JPNKUDPC.BITNET I will telephone and ask him to have access and send his reply. Michio YANO, Kyoto Sangyo University YANOM at JPNKSUVX.BITNET From D.Wujastyk at ucl.ac.uk Tue Feb 9 12:05:45 1993 From: D.Wujastyk at ucl.ac.uk (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Tue, 09 Feb 93 12:05:45 +0000 Subject: CODES IN INDIA Message-ID: <161227015680.23782.9930065077910423893.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> In Message Mon, 08 Feb 93 15:43:09 GMT, ALLEN W THRASHER writes: > Has anyone done any investigations of codes, cyphers, or > cryptographic scipts or other cryptographic phenomena in > traditional India? I was immediately put in mind of Col. Sleeman's decipherment of the secret language of the Thugs, which he wrote about in 1836 in his book Ramaseeana. I also seem to remember that there's a little about Buddhist tantric "sandhaabhaa.saa" in Agehananda Bharati's book on Tantra. There may well be a more developed literature on this, but it's not my field. I read Bharati's book a long time ago, as an academic tourist, so to speak. Dominik ---------------- Dominik Wujastyk d.wujastyk at ucl.ac.uk +44 71 611 8467 From indinst at vax.oxford.ac.uk Tue Feb 9 12:29:56 1993 From: indinst at vax.oxford.ac.uk (indinst at vax.oxford.ac.uk) Date: Tue, 09 Feb 93 12:29:56 +0000 Subject: Help on books? Message-ID: <161227015681.23782.564350300606716859.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Photocopies and inter-library loans from the Indian Institute Library. ------------------------------------------------------------------- The Indian Institute Library unfortunately has no facilities for handling photocopy orders on site. As a dependent library of the Bodleian all photocopies for Indian Institute books are processed by the Bodleian photocopying department, which requires a written form and payment in advance. This form acts as an invoice and record for the accounts department. As a copyright library, the Bodleian also requires people to sign a copyright declaration on the form before the photocopying of books and articles still in copyright can go ahead. The Wellcome Institute and the Library of Congress seem to be in the happy position of being able to offer some free photocopying but the Bodleian Library sadly is not, since its budgetary position is dire. The Indian Institute Library is happy to receive preliminary enquiries about books in the collection via INDOLOGY or through direct e-mail requests & will send the appropriate form to anyone requiring a photocopy. The Library is similarly happy to receive preliminary e-mail enquiries about inter-library loans. Should the Institute have the book required the request would be sent on to the Bodleian's inter-library loans department which handles inter-library loans on behalf of the Indian Institute Library. For those not familiar with the inter-library loans system, the library requesting the loan on behalf of a reader will need to send a British Document Supply Centre Form or a British Document Supply Centre voucher number to the Bodleian in order that the inter-library loan may take place. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Indian Institute Library Email: INDINST @ UK.AC.OX.VAX (A department of the Bodleian Library) Oxford Telephone: (0865) 277082 OX1 3BG Telex: 83656 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From rrocher at sas.upenn.edu Tue Feb 9 21:04:14 1993 From: rrocher at sas.upenn.edu (rrocher at sas.upenn.edu) Date: Tue, 09 Feb 93 16:04:14 -0500 Subject: Kautilya's arthashaastra Message-ID: <161227015686.23782.12229235875777382457.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> There is a translation of Kautilya's Arthashastra by R.P. Kangle, originally from the University of Bombay and recently reprinted by Motilal Banarsidass (1992): vol.1 Sanskrit text, vol.2 English translation, vol.3 A Study. Rosane Rocher From D.Wujastyk at ucl.ac.uk Tue Feb 9 18:34:23 1993 From: D.Wujastyk at ucl.ac.uk (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Tue, 09 Feb 93 18:34:23 +0000 Subject: Magic squares Message-ID: <161227015684.23782.16239624873986636627.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Prof. David Pingree asked me many years ago to keep him informed of any magic squares I found in Sanskrit MSS as I catalogue. I believe it was on behalf of one of his students (it may well have been Hayashi). Anyway, I normally record the presence of such magic squares in the Wellcome Sanskrit handlist(s). I can do a list of titles if anyone wants. Dominik ---------------- Dominik Wujastyk d.wujastyk at ucl.ac.uk +44 71 611 8467 From BGPK at MUSICB.MCGILL.CA Wed Feb 10 03:24:01 1993 From: BGPK at MUSICB.MCGILL.CA (BGPK000) Date: Tue, 09 Feb 93 22:24:01 -0500 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <161227015688.23782.10219935103982484021.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> To all Indologists, I am doing research for my MA thesis at McGill University. The title of the thesis is "The Contribution of Sir John Woodroffe to the Study of Tantra". I would appreciate any help or advice anyone could offer. For example: 1. Does anyone know the names and addresses of any living relatives? 2. Does anyone know, or know of, persons who were acquainted with Woodroffe? 3. Does anyone have thoughts about this subject which I should take into account? 4. Are there library holdings of his letters and memorabilia? 5. Do any of you have an opinion on this subject? Any help or advice would be much appreciated. My address: Lowell Anton Jaks Department of Religious Studies Williams and Henry Birks Building McGill University 3520 University Street Montreal, PQ H3A 2A7 (514) 398-4121 E-Mail address: LOWELL JAKS BGPK at MUSICB.MCGILL.CA From SINSLER at YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu Wed Feb 10 16:49:10 1993 From: SINSLER at YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (STANLEY INSLER) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 93 11:49:10 -0500 Subject: Magic Squares Message-ID: <161227015690.23782.5977510539003193508.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> An extensive section on magic squares and their mathematical solutions can be found at the end of the GaNitakaumudi: (cap = cerebral, : = long vowel). S. Insler From D.Wujastyk at ucl.ac.uk Wed Feb 10 17:36:49 1993 From: D.Wujastyk at ucl.ac.uk (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 93 17:36:49 +0000 Subject: Sir John Woodroffe Message-ID: <161227015692.23782.5698587780122579300.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> In Message Wed, 10 Feb 93 03:38:55 GMT, BGPK000 writes: >To all Indologists, > > I am doing research for my MA thesis at McGill University. >The title of the thesis is "The Contribution of Sir John >Woodroffe to the Study of Tantra". I would appreciate any help >or advice anyone could offer. For example: Dear Lowell, At SOAS in London, Cathleen Taylor has been researching Sir John Woodroffe, and the Arthur Avalon question. She has solved this very interesting question (to my satisfaction at least) after extensive research in Calcutta, and the discovery of documents, and indeed members, of the family of the Indian scholar with whom Woodroffe worked. The whole matter of her discovery is fascinating and was presented at one of the Hindu Studies Seminars at SOAS last year. Cathleen's paper will be published in a book of collected papers from that seminar series currently being edited by Julia Leslie. Cathleen can be reached by post c/o the History Dept., SOAS, Thornhaugh Street, Russell Square, London WC1H 0XG, or by phone at +44 71 381 1168. Dominik ---------------- Dominik Wujastyk d.wujastyk at ucl.ac.uk +44 71 611 8467 From FALK at ibm.ruf.uni-freiburg.de Thu Feb 11 22:35:49 1993 From: FALK at ibm.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (Harry Falk) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 93 22:35:49 +0000 Subject: Help on books Message-ID: <161227015694.23782.4627269079024991280.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> the unexpectable happened: a Xerox copy of an article of a Festschrift I could not get otherwise was sent to my address. Thank you out there! Even if this first attempt led to success we should not be tempted to overdo it. First try all the regular foreign loans. Then INDOLOGY. Asking for help with regard to an article/contribution is certainly easier than searching for a some-hundred-pages-cum-plates book. Still, an additional aim for INDOLOGY seems to be found. -Harry From ucgadkw at ucl.ac.uk Sat Feb 13 16:42:05 1993 From: ucgadkw at ucl.ac.uk (ucgadkw at ucl.ac.uk) Date: Sat, 13 Feb 93 16:42:05 +0000 Subject: Tamil post will be advertised Message-ID: <161227015696.23782.16899703900983881972.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> This is an advance notice that SOAS (London) will shortly be advertising a lectureship in Tamil language. I shall post full details when they are available. Dominik From rajs at lugano.esd.sgi.com Tue Feb 16 17:41:52 1993 From: rajs at lugano.esd.sgi.com (rajs at lugano.esd.sgi.com) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 93 09:41:52 -0800 Subject: Two questions Message-ID: <161227015698.23782.15676622636972710338.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> I'd appreciate pointers/help with a couple of things I've wanted to track down for a while: 1. Is there any published genealogy/lineology, albeit incomplete and fragmented, of the characters in Indian mythology? 2. Are there any English descriptions/sketches of the metallic ornamentation/armor worn by men in ancient India in the upper arms and chest? Thanks, Raj Sehgal From indinst at vax.oxford.ac.uk Wed Feb 17 09:26:20 1993 From: indinst at vax.oxford.ac.uk (indinst at vax.oxford.ac.uk) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 93 09:26:20 +0000 Subject: Two questions Message-ID: <161227015703.23782.10747797014559061751.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear Raj, You may find the following book helpful if you are looking for descriptions of armour:- Singh, Sarva Daman Ancient Indian warfare with special reference to the Vedic period. Leiden : Brill, 1965. It has a good chapter on Arms and Armour and a bibliography which may give you some pointers to other works. I have only used it to look up about archery but I am sure it will contain some information about body armour, Best wishes, Gillian Evison. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Indian Institute Library Email: INDINST @ UK.AC.OX.VAX (A department of the Bodleian Library) Oxford Telephone: (0865) 277082 OX1 3BG Telex: 83656 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From yanom at JPNKSUVX.EARN Wed Feb 17 13:03:11 1993 From: yanom at JPNKSUVX.EARN (yanom at JPNKSUVX.EARN) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 93 13:03:11 +0000 Subject: MAGIC SQUARES Message-ID: <161227015700.23782.15273680935201879108.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Because Takao Hayashi has some trouble in sending e-mail to Indology, he asked me to transfer his reply. I got this today through a Japnese commercial e-mail network. Michio YANO ---------------------------- Dear lovers of Indian magic squares, Sorry, but for me e-mails seem to take longer time than regular ones. I am sure that my knowledge about the history of Indian magic squares is quite insufficient, and on the other hand I am not very sure about what kind of information is needed by each researcher, but I hope the following bibliographical information is amusing to those who are interested in them. As Wujastyk guessed, Pingree told me before about the existence of magic squares written on leaves of various Indian manuscripts, but I did not ask him about their details because at that time I was interested only in older ones. Wujastyk's list will be valuable for writing a whole history of Indian magic squares, and now I am certainly interested in it. I am also interested in Allen's collection of "a large number of sources in print and MS in Sanskrit, Prakrit, and vernaculars." I do not know exactly what is the magic hexagon talked about before in this circle, but there is a hexagonal formation of the first 48 natural numbers with the constant sum 98 in the last chapter (called bhadraga\nita) of N\ar\aya\na's Ga\nitakaumud\i (A.D. 1356), which mathematically treats magic squares as well as magic figures of various shapes in a quite general manner. ===== Secondary sources for Indian magic squares ===== ***G. Abe, 1985, N\ar\ayana pandita no h\ojin. Sugakushi Kenkyu 104, 32-34. [Comments on N\ar\aya\na's magic squares.] ***G. Abe, 1991, Var\ahamihira no 4 h\ojin to Aru-B\un\i no 4 h\ojin ni tsuite. Sugakuhsi Kenkyu 131, 3-11. [On the relationship between Var\ahamihira's magic square of order four and al-B\un\i's.] ***A.A.K. Ayyangar, 1954, Magic Squares. Mathematics Student 20, 1952, 166. [= Indian Magic Squares, Scripta Mathematica 20, 202. Contains a magic square of order four "which is quoted in verse by many elderly persons in the village parts of India.] ***S. Cammann, 1968/69, Islamic and Indian Magic Squares. History of Religions 8, 181-209, and 271-299. [The latter half is a study of Indian magic squares based mainly on the last chapter of N\ar\aya\na's Ga\nitakaumud\i. Cammann was an expert of Chinese magic squares, and wrote many articles on them.] ***A. Cunningham, 1871, Four Reports Made during the Years 1862-63-64-65. Archaeological Survey of India 2. [Contains (on p. 434) a report on a magic square of order four incised on the front wall of a Jaina temple called Jinan\atha in Khajuraho. The figures used in it can be palaeogra- phically ascribed to the 12th or the 13th century.] ***W. Goonetilleke, 1882, The Americal Puzzle. The Indian Antiquary 11, 83-84. [Construction method, stated in the Kak\sapu\ta, of magic squares of order four with any optional sum.] ***G.A. Grierson, 1881, An American Puzzle. The Indian Antiquary 10, 89-90. [Construction method, stated in Raghunandana's Sm\rtitattva (ca. A.D. 1500), of magic squares of order four.] ***T. Hayashi, 1986, H\ojinzan. Epist\em\e (Tokyo: Asahi Press) II, 3, pp. i-xxxiv. [A Japanese translation with mathematical comments of the last chapter of N\ar\aya\na's Ga\nitakaumud\i, with an Introduction which includes a Japanese translation of a small section on magic squares of Thakkura Pher\u's Ga\nitas\ara (ca. A.D. 1315). S.R. Sarma of Aligarh University is preparing an English translation of the Ga\nitas\ara. T. Kusuba of Osaka University of Economics is making an edition and an English translation of the last two chapters of the Ga\nitakaumud\i for his dissertation to be submitted to Brown University. Both Sarma and Kusuba happen to be working with Pingree at Brown up to March.] ***T. Hayashi, 1987, Var\ahamihira's Pandiagonal Magic Square of the Order Four. Historia Mathematica 14, 159-166. [A study of a modified magic square of order four (with the constant sum 18) utilized by Var\a- hamihira (in his B\rhatsa\mhit\a, ca. A.D. 550) for making various kinds of perfumes. Its existence was already known to A.N. Singh 1936.] ***T. Hayashi, 1988, Magic Squares in Indian Medical Works. The Science and Engineering Review of Doshisha University 28, 231-243. [Comments in Japanese on the magic squares reported by Rosu 1987.] ***T. Hayashi, 1988, A Preliminary Study in the History of Magic Squares before the Seventeenth Century. Bulletin of the National Museum of Ethnology 13, 615-719. [A survey, based mainly on secondary sources, of magic squares known to the ancient and medieval worlds. Classifies the construction methods which are explicitly stated in classical texts. The main text in Japanese with an English introduction.] ***A. Hirayama, 1987, N\ar\ayana no h\ojinzan. Sugakushi Kenkyu 112, 1-12. [Comments on some of N\ar\aya\na's magic squares.] ***H.R. Kapadia, 1934, A Note on Jaina Hymns and Magic Squares. Indian Historical Quarterly 10, 148-153. [Reports three hymns, M\anadevas\uri's Sattarisayathutta, etc. which are associated with magic squares.] ***F. Kielhorn, 1892, Inscriptions from Khajuraho. Epigraphia Indica 1, 135-136. [See Cunningham above.] ***A. Rosu, 1987, Etudes ayurvediques III: Les carres magiques dans la medicine indienne. Studies on Indian Medical History (ed. by Meulenbeld & Wujastyk), Groningen Oriental Studies 2, 103-112. [A study of magic squares of order three employed, since around A.D. 900, in \ayurveda for making delivery easy.] ***A. Rosu, 1989, Les carres magiques indiens et l'histoire des idees en Asie. ZDMG 139, 120-158. [Most informative article on Indian magic squares with special reference to their significances in the medical and tantric traditions, and to their relationships with Islamic and Chinese magic squares.] ***R. Shortreede, 1842, On an Ancient Indian Magic Square Cut in a Temple at Gwalior. Journal of the Asiatic Society of Bengal, N.S. 11 (1), 292-293. [A magic square of order four. The date of the temple is ascribed to A.D. 1483.] ***A.N. Singh, 1936, The History of Magic Squares in India. Proceed- ings of the International Congress of Mathematicians, pp. 275-276. [Mentions, without details, magic squares of the Kak\sapu\ta, of Var\a- hamihira, of Khajuraho, of Jaina hymns, of N\ar\aya\na, of Dharm\ananda, and of Sundaras\uri.] ***P. Singh, 1982, Total Number of Perfect Magic Squares: N\ar\aya\na's Rule. Mathematics Education 16, A, 32-37. [Gives a conjecture for N\ar\aya\na's method of calculating the total number, 384, of the pandiagonal magic squares of order four.] ***P. Singh, 1986, N\a\raya\na's Treatment of Magic Squares. Indian Journal of History of Science 21, 123-130. [Mathematical comments on N\ar\aya\na's magic squares.] ***T. Vijayaraghavan, 1941, On Jaina Magic Squares. Mathematics Student 9, 97-102. [On mathematical peculiarities of the so-called Jaina magic square. See Cunningham above.] =============================================== Takao Hayashi, Doshisha University, Kyoto 602 Japan. From klaiman at CVAX.IPFW.INDIANA.EDU Thu Feb 18 02:17:29 1993 From: klaiman at CVAX.IPFW.INDIANA.EDU (M.H. KLAIMAN, ENGLISH & LINGUISTICS, INDIANA-PURDUE U.-FT. WAYNE) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 93 21:17:29 -0500 Subject: Krishnamurti festschrift Message-ID: <161227015705.23782.5896303326835358540.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Could anyone provide me with a complete citation for a linguistic festschrift for Bh. Krishnamurti which appeared a year or so ago. Thanks Mimi Klaiman From magier at cunixf.cc.columbia.edu Thu Feb 18 03:19:56 1993 From: magier at cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (David Magier) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 93 22:19:56 -0500 Subject: Krishnamurti festschrift Message-ID: <161227015706.23782.5598156150734012001.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> > Could anyone provide me with a complete citation for a linguistic > festschrift for Bh. Krishnamurti which appeared a year or so ago. > Thanks > Mimi Klaiman Here's the bibliographic record, lifted from RLIN (Research Libraries Information Network): Studies in Dravidian and general linguistics : a festschrift for Bh. Krishnamurti / editors, B. Lakshmi Bai, B. Ramakrishna Reddy. -- Hyderabad, India : Centre of Advanced Study in Linguistics, Osmania University, 1991. xix, 530 p., [1] leaf of plates : ill. ; 25 cm. -- (Osmania University publications in linguistics ; 6) Festschrift honoring Bhadriraju Krishnamurti, b. 1928, linguist. Includes bibliographical references. Rs350.00 ($50.00 U.S.) LCCN: 92902272 L.C. CALL NO: PL4601.S73 1991 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ ____________________________ 304 International Affairs /// -- David Magier -- \\\ Columbia University ||| Head, AREA STUDIES ||| New York, N.Y. 10027 ||| S&SE Asia, Latin America, ||| (212) 854-8046 / FAX: 212 854-2495 \\\ Mid-East, Slavic, Africa /// --------------------------- magier at columbia.edu From magier at cunixf.cc.columbia.edu Thu Feb 18 03:31:47 1993 From: magier at cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (David Magier) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 93 22:31:47 -0500 Subject: request for assistance Message-ID: <161227015708.23782.7050150400347162640.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Does anyone on the INDOLOGY list have, or know where I can quickly obtain, the Jaipur (or Delhi) editions of the newspaper Jansatta for September 29 to October 1, 1987? A colleague here urgently needs to see the editorials in Jansatta for those three days, during which there were at least two editorials on sati. If anyone having said issues could go so far as to actually FAX me the editorials (at the FAX number below), I'm certain I could find some way to return the favor. MANY THANKS!! (And sorry if this request is out of scope for the usual Indology discussions.) -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ ____________________________ 304 International Affairs /// -- David Magier -- \\\ Columbia University ||| Director, AREA STUDIES ||| New York, N.Y. 10027 ||| S&SE Asia, Latin America, ||| 212-854-8046 / FAX: 212-854-2495 \\\ Mid-East, Slavic, Africa /// --------------------------- magier at columbia.edu From ucgadkw at ucl.ac.uk Thu Feb 18 12:40:14 1993 From: ucgadkw at ucl.ac.uk (ucgadkw at ucl.ac.uk) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 93 12:40:14 +0000 Subject: SANSKRIT.26K Message-ID: <161227015712.23782.10350585782071308679.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Georgetown Catalogue of Projects in Electronic Text (CPET) Center for Text & Technology Academic Computer Center, Reiss 238 Georgetown University, Washington, DC 20057 USA tel: 202-687-6096 fax: 202-687-6003 Contacts: Paul Mangiafico, CPET Project Assistant pmangiafico at guvax.georgetown.edu Dr. Michael Neuman, Director, Center for Text & Technology neuman at guvax.georgetown.edu ELECTRONIC TEXT PROJECTS IN THE SANSKRIT LANGUAGE This 26K file contains information on 7 projects, and was last updated in February, 1993. INDEX The list from which this information is drawn is organized alphabetically by geographic location, and thus this digest follows a similar order. The following index lists the projects described in this digest and the order in which they occur. CPET#184 Thesaurus of Texts in Ancient Indo-European Languages CPET#191 Sanskrit medical encyclopaedias CPET#268 Sanskrit texts CPET#298 Oxford Text Archive CPET#8 PHI Demonstration CD-ROM #1 (LBASE/CCAT) CPET#71 Indic Script Textbases CPET#101 Thesaurus Linguae Sanskritae Information on the projects listed below is organized in the following manner: 0. Identifying Acronym 5. Language 1. Name and Affiliation 6. Intended Use 2. Contact Address 7. Format 3. Disciplinary Interests 8. Forms of Access 4. Focus 9. Source of Holdings ELECTRONIC TEXT PROJECTS IN THE SANSKRIT LANGUAGE Bamberg (Otto Friedrich Universita%t)/ Thesaurus of Texts in Ancient Indo-European Languages [Kraft email 5/24/89; Gippert letters 11/89, 9/5/91, 1sep92] CPET#184 0. THESIETEXT (Thesaurus of Texts in Ancient Indo-European Languages) 1. Thesaurus Indogermanischer Textcorpora; Universitat Bamberg, Germany See Journal "Die Sprache," Vol. 32/2 2. Dr. Jost Gippert Universita%t Bamberg, Orientalistik Postfach 1549 D-W-8600 Bamberg, Germany 3. Literature, language, linguistics, history 4. From beginning of literacy to 17th century; Eurasia 5. Old Indic (Sanskrit), Old Iranian (Avestan, Old Persian), Hittite, Tokharian, Old Germanic, Greek (Ancient), Italic languages, Armenian (Old), and several other I.- E. languages. 6. Textbank 7. Sequential text; encoding scheme of DOS, WordCruncher, and WordPerfect 5.1 8. Access on diskettes, CD-ROM (planned) 9. Encoded by various scholars in different parts of Europe. Hamburg (Univ)/ Sanskrit medical encyclopaedias [E-mail from Wujastyk 11/89] CPET#191 1. Sanskrit medical encyclopaedias 2. Prof. R.E. Emmerick Iranian Studies University of Hamburg Germany 3. Medicine 4. Caraka, Susruta, Astangahrdaya, Astangasamgraha, and the Siddhasara of Ravigupta 5. Sanskrit Zurich (Univ)/ Sanskrit texts [E-mail from Wujastyk 11/89; Schreiner letter 8/22/90] CPET#268 1. Sanskrit texts 2. Prof. Peter Schreiner Abteilung fu%r Indologie Universita%t Zu%rich Ra%mistr. 68 CH-8001 Zu%rich Switzerland tel. 0041-1-2572036 3. Indology, Sanskrit, Hinduism, Indian philosophy 4. Visnupurana, Manu, Sakuntala, Asvaghosa, Buddhacarita, Gaudapada-Karika, Adisesa, Paramarthasara, Bhagavadgita, Narayaniyam, Mahabharata, Svetasvatara-Upanisad. 5. Sanskrit 6. deposit with Oxford Text Archive intended 7. Straight-forward trans-literation with marking of sandhi, nominal compounds, references; TUSTEP format (ASCII format possible). TUSTEP programs for KWIC-index, reserve index word forms etc. 8. Presently none 9. Encoded in-house Oxford (Univ)/ OTA = Oxford Text Archive [Hughes, BBBS 583; letter from Burnard 5/90; e-mail Archive news 5/90; brochure 06/90; email Hart 1/18/90; Humanist OTA News postings 5-4-90, 6oct92] CPET#298 0. OTA 1. Oxford Text Archive, Oxford University Computing Service (OUCS) - Oxford University. See Judith K. Proud _The Oxford Text Archive_ (British Library R&D Report no 5985, 1989). See also forthcoming _Humanities Computing Yearbook_. 2. Alan Morrison and Lou Burnard Oxford Text Archive Oxford University Computing Service 13 Banbury Rd. Oxford OX2 6NN United Kingdom tel. +44 (865) 273238; +44 (865) 273200; Fax: +44 (865) 273 275 JANET: Archive at Uk.Ac.Oxford.Vax ARPANET: archive%uk.ac.ox.vax at ucl-cs.arpa 3. Literature, language 4. No specific focus of period, genre, location, or medium. 5. English and nearly 3 dozen others, including Arabic, Armenian, Coptic, Danish, Dutch, Finnish, French, Fufulde, Gaelic, German, Greek, Hebrew, Icelandic, Italian, Kurdish, Latin, Latvian, Malayan, Mayan, Pali, Portuguese, Provenc\al, Russian, Sanskrit, Serbo-Croat, Spanish, Swedish, Turkish, and Welsh 6. Deposit Archive of hundreds of textbanks for private scholarly research; interested in acquiring and maintaining electronic texts of any specialization for re-use within the scholarly community. 7. Texts held in a wide variety of formats, but prefer the use of descriptive markup e.g. SGML. Texts stored as plain ASCII character files on magnetic tape, easily transferred to most software package. Texts are compatible with the Oxford Concordance Program (OCP). 8. Access online, by tape (9-track; Density 800, 1600 or 6250 bpi; ASCII or EBCDIC; fixed, variable, or formatted), by diskette (MS-Dos or Macintosh; HD or DD; 3.5" or 5.25"), by cartridge (DC300, TAR format only) or (within the UK) over networks. Also available in printed bound format. Copyrights are present for some works, so a limited usage form is to be signed by each user. Non- registered users should send e-mail to Archive at Uk.Ac.Oxford.Vax listing the texts the user intends to use and the purpose. 9. Very few texts encoded in house since primarily is a deposit Archive. Costs : 5 British Pounds per text. PLUS: 15 British Pounds (within UK) per tape. 25 British Pounds (elsewhere) per tape. 15 British Pounds per diskette. 30 British Pounds per cartridge. Payments in sterling or US dollars only ($2 = 1 B.P.). For available works, see Oxford Text Archive Shortlist. 10. Distributing a revised edition of the Toronto D.O.E. Corpus (20 pounds within Europe; 30 pounds everywhere else). Ancient Hebrew Inscriptions Corpora (Cambridge Univ. Press, 1991) Susanne Corpus (Brown Corpus of American English) Anicius Manlius Severinus Boethius. De syllogismo hypothetico. [Latin] Gay, John. The Beggar's Opera. (B.W. Huebsch 1922) Griffin, James. Well-being: Its Menaing, Measurement, and Moral Importance. (Oxford: Oxford University Press [1987]) Joyce, James. Finnegans Wake (Faber & Faber 1964) Joyce, James. Ulysses (Bodley Head 1960) Kant, Immanuel. Critique of Pure Reason, trans. N. Kemp Smith. (London: Macmillan [1929]) McGuinness, Brian. Wittgenstein, A Life: Young Ludwig, 1889-1921. (London: Duckworth [1988]) More, Thomas. Utopia. [Latin] Parfit, Derek. Reasons and Persons. (Oxford: Oxford University Press [1984]) Plato. Works. [Greek] Sartre, Jean Paul. La Nause. Shakespeare, William. Complete First Folio. ($90) Van Dyke, Henry. The Story of the Other Wise Man (Harper & Bros. 1907) Wittgenstein, Ludwig. Culture and Value. [German] (Vermischte Bermerkungen) Wittgenstein, Ludwig. Last Writings on the Philosophy of Psychology, in part. [German] [Letzte Schriften uber die Philosphie der Psychologie] Wittgenstein, Ludwig. Remarks on the Philosophy of Psychology. [German] [Bermerkungen uber die Philosophie der Psychologie]. CA Los Altos (The Packard Humanities Institute and Univ. of Penn. CCAT)/ PHI Demonstration CD-ROM #1 (LBASE/CCAT) [Letter from Rice 10/89; Comparini letter 05/90; Waite letter 1/9/89; Comparini 06/20/91] CPET#8 0. PHI Demonstration CD-ROM #1 1. The Packard Humanities Institute and CCAT, University of Pennsylvania. 2. Brigitte R. Comparini The Packard Humanities Institute 300 Second Street, Suite 201 Los Altos, CA 94022 tel. (415) 948-0150 Bitnet : xb.m07 at stanford fax : (415) 948-5793 Robert A. Kraft Box 36 College Hall University of Pennsylvania Philadelphia, Pa 19104 tel. (215) 898-5827 Bitnet: Kraft at Penndrls.upenn.edu 3. Latin literature; biblical and miscellaneous; non- literary Greek papyri. 4. Latin literature through A.D. 200; Biblical and miscellaneous of various periods. 5. Primarily Latin, English, Greek, Hebrew; also Aramaic, Coptic, Sanskrit, Tibetan, Arabic, Italian, Danish, French. 6. Large Latin database for literary, linguistic, and historical research; biblical and miscellaneous database for literary, linguistic, historical, religious, and scholarly research. 7. High Sierra for directory and file allocation; ASCII coded transcription for non-Roman alphabets, compatible with Thesaurus Linguae Graecae (University of California, Irvine) Beta code; full text, unindexed; system independent. Exact Search, Fuzzy Search, GREP Search; set context length and record span; set up linguistic models of any type; built-in WordStar editor; make grammatical concordances and other custom databases. CD ROM (ISO 9660) 8. CD-ROM (High Sierra format) distributed under license to individuals and institutions, for non-commercial use. Software programs to access archive obtainable from: (a) CCAT, Box 36 College Hall, University of Penn. Philadelphia, Pa 19104-6303 Tel : (215) 898-1597 (IBM). (b) Ibycus, P.O. Box 1330 Los Altos, CA 94022 Tel : (415) 941-5674 (Ibycus). (c) Linguistics Software, P.O. Box 580 Edmonds, WA 98020-0580 (Macintosh). Tel: (206) 775-1130 (d) Perseus Project, Dept. of Classics, 319 Boylston Hall, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA 02138. Tel : (617) 495-9025 (Macintosh). (e) David Rensburger, 1293 Willivee Drive, Decatur, GA 30033 (IBM). (f) Anna Santoni, Scuola Normale Superiore, 56100 Pisa, Italy. Fax : 39-50-563513 (Macintosh). (g) John Baima, Silver Mountain Software, 7246 Cloverglen Drive, Dallas, TX 75249 (IBM). (h) Pharos software: Randall Smith, Dept. of Classics, UC Santa Barbara, CA 93106 (IBM). rsmith1 at cc.swarthmore.edu 9. Latin : prepared from various printed sources by PHI; biblical and miscellaneous; collected from various sources and editions and organized by CCAT (Univ. of Penn). Texts donated to and by the TLG (Thesaurus Linguae Graecae - University of California at Irvine) and CCAT (Center for Computer Analysis of Texts - University of Pennsylvania). Due for release mid-February (1991) are the following text bases: Thesaurus Linguae Latinae (TLL) Duke Data Bank of Documentary Papyri (DDBDP) (from project of the same name, located at Duke University). Cornell Inscription Project (CIP) (from project of the same name, located at Cornell University). Nag Hammadi Coptic Texts (from Claremont Institute). Coptic (Sahidic) New Testament (from CCAT; David Horner edition, but revised and edited by David Brakke and Bentley Layton). Availability : Expanded and revised edition forthcoming. License fee $25.00 Utility Disks: Individual license : $50 University license : $100 Foreign Fonts: Individual license : $90 University license : $200 Graphics Tool Box: Individual license : $75 University license : $400 10. Project includes such works as The Divine Comedy, Hebrew Bible, Chaucer's work, and other Greek and Latin works. Various works of Saint Augustine of Hippo. [Latin] Descartes, Rene. Elementa. [Latin] Descartes, Rene. Regulae. [Latin] Descartes, Rene. Principia, 1 and 2. [Latin] Bagavad Gita (from Oxford Text Archive, with corrections) [Sanskrit] Rigveda (from UTexas/Irvine) [Sanskrit] NM Las Cruces (NMSU)/ Indic Script Textbases [Moberg, DBHSS 33, de Ram email 5/24/89] CPET#71 1. Indic Script Textbases, New Mexico State University See Candelaria de Ram, "Indic Script Textbases" in Databases in the Humanities and Social Sciences, Osprey, Plorida: Paradigm Press, 1987: 33-73. 2. Sylvia Candelaria de Ram Natural Language Group Computing Research Laboratory Box 3CF, UPB New Mexico State University Las Cruces, NM 88003 tel. (505) 646-6216/522-2978 BITNET: sylvia at nmsu.edu, sylvia at nmsu.bitnet 3. Natural texts for and by children and adults (excerpts from children's primers and other books). Aerospace textbook sections with diagrams and text with titles 4. Modern, Indic, American 5. Indic characters of Araboid and Sanscritic families, orthographically accurate transliteration into ASCII of Hindi, Urdu, Bengal, English, Spanish 6. Transliteration system for Devanagri, Nastaliq, Bengali, Tamil, and other Bhrami scripts; of character, textbank for construction of usage pattern or database for machine translation, discourse analysis and generation, user interfaces; approx. 25 selected texts, word lists 7. Sequential texts in ASCII format, some with troff typesetting commands; databases are in Prolog format, usable after filtering with Lisp; entry on site by Unix gnu emacs editors running on Suns 8. Access online in a Berkeley Unix environment, and soon by Apple Mac diskette. No special hardware or software needed 9. Encoded in house; sources of Indic texts are published children's and adults books from India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh TX Austin (University of Texas)/ Thesaurus Linguae Sanskritae [E-mail from Wujastyk 11/89] CPET#101 1. Thesaurus Linguae Sanskritae, University of Texas 2. Prof. R. Lariviere University of Texas Austin, Texas 78712 tel. (512) 471-5811 5. Sanskrit 9. Texts include Mahabharata and Ramayana  From ucgadkw at ucl.ac.uk Thu Feb 18 12:43:34 1993 From: ucgadkw at ucl.ac.uk (ucgadkw at ucl.ac.uk) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 93 12:43:34 +0000 Subject: list of Sanskrit text-in-computer projects Message-ID: <161227015714.23782.9473573814592912227.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> I've just arranged for a list of such projects to be emailed to INDOLOGY. I hope you won't find it too long. It contains information from all over the world about what Sanskrit texts are available in machine-readable form. The list is derived from the new gopher service on the topic of machine-readable text projects, which is at guvax.georgetown.edu. If you don't have a gopher client ... get one (ho ho ho!) ... but you can contact the Georgetown information by ordinary ftp to the same address. (You just don't get the same overview and ease of access.) Dominik From FALK at ibm.ruf.uni-freiburg.de Thu Feb 18 12:52:43 1993 From: FALK at ibm.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (Harry Falk) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 93 12:52:43 +0000 Subject: Krishnamurti festschrift Message-ID: <161227015710.23782.909304938609237520.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> David, how does one access RLIN? Seems to be a useful tool. Harry -----falk at ibm.ruf.uni-freiburg.de------- From rcohen at sas.upenn.edu Tue Feb 23 03:20:13 1993 From: rcohen at sas.upenn.edu (rcohen at sas.upenn.edu) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 93 22:20:13 -0500 Subject: Reflector Service Operational (fwd) Message-ID: <161227015715.23782.13161989718642508975.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dear Indologists: I am forwarding this announcement FYI. We, at the Department of South Asia Regional Studies, University of Pennsylvania, have launched a reflector service for scholars of South Asia Studies. The message below explains the service and the subscription procedure. Please be aware that the subscribers to this list will have widely different disciplinary interests. Sincerely, Richard J. Cohen Richard J. Cohen wrote: > From scholars-request at southasia.upenn.edu Mon Feb 22 19:19:22 1993 > Received-Date: Mon, 22 Feb 93 19:15:52 EST > From: rcohen at sas.upenn.edu (Richard J. Cohen) > Posted-Date: Mon, 22 Feb 93 19:18:27 EST > Message-Id: <9302230018.AA29766 at mail.sas.upenn.edu> > Subject: Reflector Service Operational > To: scholars at southasia.upenn.edu > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 93 19:18:27 EST > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11-upenn1.9] > > Dear Colleagues: > > Our Reflector Service is operational. There are approximately 45 > subscribers presently on the list, although this number will change > rapidly and probably increase substantially. Let us experiment initially, > and see where our interests take us. The traditional idea of a "reflector" > is simple: to provide subscribers a way of telling one another of > important programmatic events and about issues which are of interest to > scholars, in this case, of South Asian studies. It's essentially an > information conduit. As our interests and imaginations grow, we can add > other "lists" for sub-groups, such as historians, anthropologists, > political scientists, economists, folklorists, language/literature > specialists, etc. > The e-mail address of the reflector service is > . If you send an e-mail message to that > address, everyone on the list will receive it. Very shortly, you will be > able to interact with our machine as if it was set up as a "listserv." > Thus, you will be able to automatically subscribe, signoff, and send other > house-keeping type requests regarding your account. For now, if you know > of anyone who would like to subscribe to the reflector, they can send an > e-mail message, requesting to be listed, to > . Thank you. > > -- > Richard J. Cohen, Assistant Director, South Asia Regional Studies > University of Pennsylvania, 820 Williams Hall, Univ. of Pennsylvania > Philadelphia, PA 19104-6305, Tel: 215-898-7475; Fax: 215-573-2138 > E-mail: rcohen at mail.sas.upenn.edu > -- Richard J. Cohen, Assistant Director, South Asia Regional Studies University of Pennsylvania, 820 Williams Hall, Univ. of Pennsylvania Philadelphia, PA 19104-6305, Tel: 215-898-7475; Fax: 215-573-2138 E-mail: rcohen at mail.sas.upenn.edu From magier at cunixf.cc.columbia.edu Tue Feb 23 11:21:51 1993 From: magier at cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (David Magier) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 93 06:21:51 -0500 Subject: Pictures from Pakistan Message-ID: <161227015717.23782.11223874702333194508.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> For your information, there is an archive of high resolution (mostly color) graphic images from Pakistan, in the GIF format, which you can download and display or print. The images are available for file transfer (anonymous ftp) by following these steps: 1) ftp near.ugcs.caltech.edu (OR ftp 131.215.128.204) 2) cd pub/gifs/Pakistan 3) type "binary" 4) type "get" followed by the filename of the image you want (see list below). 5) This will transfer the file to your own host, from which you may download it to your PC or Mac using kermit or other communications software. 6) Then you can display the image using any of the shareware or commercial GIF software applications available (GIFFER, GIFview, GIFconverter, etc.) Here is the list of images available from the caltech archive: chitral.gif Chitral Fort hunza.gif Baltit Castle lahore1.gif Sheesh Mahal, Lahore Fort lahore2.gif Badshahi Mosque makli.gif Chaukundi Tombs makli2.gif Chaukundi Tombs multan1.gif Shah Rukn-e-Alam Tomb multan2.gif Shah Rukn-e-Alam Tomb multan3.gif Eid-gaah Mosque peshawar1.gif Mahabat Khan Mosque peshawar2.gif Mahabat Khan Mosque thatta.gif Shah Jahan Mosque baluch.gif desert scene. Baluchistan (Pakistan) buddha.gif fasting Buddha from Taxila, Punjab (Pakistan) halamosque.gif mosque with blue tiles, Hala, Sind (Pakistan) indus.gif boats on the Indus river, Sind (Pakistan) iqbal.gif a gif file of a poem by iqbal jahangir.gif Jahangir's tomb (built by Shah Jahan) Lahore, Punjab (Pakistan) k2.gif Karakoram 2 (Godwin-Austin) mountain (Pakistan) kkh.gif Karakoram Highway (Pakistan) narangi.gif boy selling oranges: Peshawar, NWFP (Pakistan) saifulmuluk.gif lake Saiful Muluk, NWFP (Pakistan) shalimar.gif Shalimar gardens (built by Shah Jahan) near Lahore, Punjab (Pakistan) srinagar.gif famous b/w photograph by Henri Cartier-Bresson,1948. Srinagar, Jammu & Kashmir (India) tajmahal.gif Taj Mahal, Agra (India) tomb.gif tomb of Bibi Jaiwindi: Uch Sharif, Punjab (Pakistan) after Maharaja Ranjit Singh These are lovely images. Enjoy! -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ ____________________________ 304 International Affairs /// -- David Magier -- \\\ Columbia University ||| Director, AREA STUDIES ||| New York, N.Y. 10027 ||| S&SE Asia, Latin America, ||| 212-854-8046 / FAX: 212-854-2495 \\\ Mid-East, Slavic, Africa /// --------------------------- magier at columbia.edu From GADOMSKI at PLKTUS11.EARN Wed Feb 24 17:44:14 1993 From: GADOMSKI at PLKTUS11.EARN (Gadomski) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 93 17:44:14 +0000 Subject: English conversation Message-ID: <161227015719.23782.13037605891506569732.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> ********************AN OFFER FOR SUMMER'93********************* (JULY AND AUGUST) PROFESSOR OF PHYSICS, FRESH AND STILL YOUNG, WORKING AT SILESIAN UNIVERSITY, POLAND, VERY GOOD KNOWLEDGE OF RUSSIAN, BYELORUSSIAN AND POLISH; LECTURER OF CONTEMPORY PHYSICS FOR PHILOSOPHY STUDENTS, INDEPENDENT (IN ANY SENSE), WITH NO LIVING AND FINANCIAL PROBLEMS, IS LOOKING FOR AN INTERESTING CONTACT WITH A NA_ TIVE ENGLISH SPEAKER FOR POLISHING HIS ENGLISH KNOWLEDGE IN ENGLISH SPEAKING COUNTRY. HOBBY: BICYCLE, WALKING, HIKING THROUGH THE MOUNTAIN, SWIMMING, ETC. REVERSELY, A TEACHING OF RUSSIAN IS OBVIOUSLY POSSIBLE. FOR MORE DETAILS SEND THE LETTER TO: G.P.Shpenkov, Lwowska St.6/64 PL41-205 Sosnowiec, Poland. P.S. Send any other answers to my e-mail box (not to the discussion list). From ridgeway at blackbox.hacc.washington.edu Fri Feb 26 10:04:08 1993 From: ridgeway at blackbox.hacc.washington.edu (Thomas B. Ridgeway) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 93 10:04:08 +0000 Subject: WNRI fonts for CSX transcription in TeX Message-ID: <161227015721.23782.15852458905589564757.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> A correspondant inquires about which metafont files to use in order to run TeX with the CSX-based wnri fonts available on blackbox.hacc.washington.edu for testing and feedback. In that my response sheds a tiny bit of light on the future of the wnri fonts, I burden all of your mailboxes with it. [If you are new to this list, CSX is the proposed Classical Sanskrit Extended encoding for characters useful in romanized transcription of indic languages] Response: You can use any wnri* font which is there: all the other files ending in .mf or .map are needed in the metafont run to produce the wnri* fonts, and the normal complement of standard *.mf files present in a complete metafont system (e.g. cmbase.mf) is also assumed. So use wnri*.*, but ftp everything ending in mf or map. The nameing scheme for the fonts is wnriXY == Washington Romanized Indic X Y point where X is r=roman, b=bold, i=italic, bi=bold italic, and in the fullness of time s (or h or g)=sanserif and t=typewriter and Y is 8 or 10, possibly eventually 5, 7, 12, 17 etc., but I am not entirely convinced of the utility of supporting the entire range of sizes, rather than just relying on magnifications. The layout of the wnri fonts follows CSX directly insofar as the CSX standard is accomodating indic transcription rather than merely cloning the IBM-PC extended character set. The next trial balloon of wnri (which will probably be along sometime in spring when I have gotten over a little end-of-bienniel-budget-cycle administrative nonsense here) will support a slightly expanded character set with more useful east-of-suez characters: the forms specific to CSX will stay the same, of course. [If you use non-indic characters such as #156 'pound sterling sign' you will be confounded by a future version of wnri which puts upper-case E-macron (equivalent to TeX's \=E ) in position 156, o-macron in 157 instead of 'Yen sign', O-macron in 158 instead of 'Peseta' and so forth. To TeX a file with the screen-font visible characters in use, just say something like \font\indicr=wnrir10 % make the CSX fonts known to TeX \font\indici=wnrii10 % bold \font\indicb=wnrib10 % italic \indicr % make indic the current font If it seems necessary, one can redefine \bf \it and \rm to accomodate existing sets of macros or whatever; beyond this point people use TeX in such different ways that I hesitate to go much further. In versions of TeX from 3 on, the characters with values greater than 127 are regarded as some kind of non-numeric non alphabetic printable stuff that TeX should just set in type and not worry about, so no action is needed to let the characters print. The letter forms in wnri* have all diacritics composed in advance, so no further accent operations are needed (indeed, more accenting may not even be possible as in some cases wnri characters lie about how tall they are so as to prevent baseline spreading). cheers, Tom